[opensuse-factory] The new Slab for openSUSE 11.0

2008-01-10 Thread Igor Jagec
I saw you had plans to implement the new Slab for the upcoming openSUSE
11.0. When you will push it into Factory? I can't wait to see it and
test it, so I'm asking :)

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[opensuse-factory] What is npvieuwer.bin?

2008-01-10 Thread M9.
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Hi,

This '?' eats some resources (not much), but can not be found.
Not by Beagle, and not by kfind.
Anybody a clue?

29799 monkey9   20   0 48832  13m 6184 R  2.0  0.9   0:19.14 npviewer.bin


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Re: [opensuse-factory] The new Slab for openSUSE 11.0

2008-01-10 Thread CyberOrg
On Jan 10, 2008 2:44 PM, Igor Jagec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I saw you had plans to implement the new Slab for the upcoming openSUSE
 11.0. When you will push it into Factory? I can't wait to see it and
 test it, so I'm asking :)


Have a look at these:

http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Main_menu_bug_week

http://slabme.wordpress.com/

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Re: [opensuse-factory] What is npvieuwer.bin?

2008-01-10 Thread Dominique Leuenberger


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 Hi,
 
 This '?' eats some resources (not much), but can not be found.
 Not by Beagle, and not by kfind.
 Anybody a clue?
 

Hi,

npviewer.bin is the binary of nspluginwrapper. Most likely you're on a 64bit 
machine with Firefox, then the flash plugin will run with the nspluginwrapper.

Dominique

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Re: [opensuse-factory] What is npvieuwer.bin?

2008-01-10 Thread M9.
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Dominique Leuenberger schreef:
 
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 Hi,

 This '?' eats some resources (not much), but can not be found.
 Not by Beagle, and not by kfind.
 Anybody a clue?

 
 Hi,
 
 npviewer.bin is the binary of nspluginwrapper. Most likely you're on a 64bit 
 machine with Firefox, 

exactly!

 then the flash plugin will run with the nspluginwrapper.

Ok, thnx that's the info i need.. :-)

 
 Dominique
 

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Re: [opensuse-factory] What is npvieuwer.bin?

2008-01-10 Thread Cristian Rodríguez
M9. escribió:
 Hi,
 
 This '?' eats some resources (not much), but can not be found.
 Not by Beagle, and not by kfind.

Does it segfaults for you ? I know of it existance due to the pure fact
that crashes repeatedly and the event is logged... ;P




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Re: [opensuse-factory] What is npvieuwer.bin?

2008-01-10 Thread M9.
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Cristian Rodríguez schreef:
 M9. escribió:
 Hi,

 This '?' eats some resources (not much), but can not be found.
 Not by Beagle, and not by kfind.
 
 Does it segfaults for you ? I know of it existance due to the pure fact
 that crashes repeatedly and the event is logged... ;P

No, that is not the case here, i just noticed it in my monitor,
(npvieuwer?, vieuws what?) and wanted to know what it was.
When i could not find it, i thought: spyware?, and asked here, that's
all.;-)

Now i know that 'N', stands for 'netscape', and 'p', for plugin, it is
obvious..

But what if NP stood for No Problem vieuwer?
Than it could mean anything, i paranoidly thought.. :-)


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Re: [opensuse-factory] status report distribution week 2

2008-01-10 Thread Stephan Kulow
Am Donnerstag 10 Januar 2008 schrieb Keith Goggin:

 The openSUSE 10.3 detailed roadmap made it clear that beta1 would provide
 a Feature and version freeze for the complete distribution (exception:
 patchlevel update of leaf packages until Aug 17) further beta3 would
 provide that only blocker and bug fixes [would be] allowed from then on.
 Yet the Factory News for 10.3 lists a number of changes post beta3 that do
 not appear to comply with either of these limitations.

You disagree with making exceptions and want openSUSE to follow a strict rule
written 6 months forehand without being flexible?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] status report distribution week 2

2008-01-10 Thread Keith Goggin
On Thursday 10 January 2008 23:54:25 Stephan Kulow wrote:
 Am Donnerstag 10 Januar 2008 schrieb Keith Goggin:
  The openSUSE 10.3 detailed roadmap made it clear that beta1 would provide
  a Feature and version freeze for the complete distribution (exception:
  patchlevel update of leaf packages until Aug 17) further beta3 would
  provide that only blocker and bug fixes [would be] allowed from then
  on. Yet the Factory News for 10.3 lists a number of changes post beta3
  that do not appear to comply with either of these limitations.

 You disagree with making exceptions and want openSUSE to follow a strict
 rule written 6 months forehand without being flexible?

No, not necessarily, It would depend on the circumstances. For me it would be 
a matter of balancing currency and stability. But change at the last moment 
simply to include the very latest package and in the absence of any other 
extenuating circumstances probably yes. 

If I recall correctly you took over after the roadmap was released. Can I ask 
you, did you agreed with its general intention?
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Re: [opensuse-factory] status report distribution week 2

2008-01-10 Thread Stephan Kulow
Am Donnerstag 10 Januar 2008 schrieb Keith Goggin:
 On Thursday 10 January 2008 23:54:25 Stephan Kulow wrote:
  Am Donnerstag 10 Januar 2008 schrieb Keith Goggin:
   The openSUSE 10.3 detailed roadmap made it clear that beta1 would
   provide a Feature and version freeze for the complete distribution
   (exception: patchlevel update of leaf packages until Aug 17) further
   beta3 would provide that only blocker and bug fixes [would be]
   allowed from then on. Yet the Factory News for 10.3 lists a number of
   changes post beta3 that do not appear to comply with either of these
   limitations.
 
  You disagree with making exceptions and want openSUSE to follow a strict
  rule written 6 months forehand without being flexible?

 No, not necessarily, It would depend on the circumstances. For me it would
 be a matter of balancing currency and stability. But change at the last
 moment simply to include the very latest package and in the absence of any
 other extenuating circumstances probably yes.

 If I recall correctly you took over after the roadmap was released. Can I
 ask you, did you agreed with its general intention?
Yes, I did. And every single package update was acknowledged by me.

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[opensuse-factory] security update policy

2008-01-10 Thread Wolfgang Rosenauer

Hi,

I'm wondering if there is any internal policy at Novell about security 
updates for Factory?

I just found an example what shouldn't happen:

MozillaThunderbird is on version 2.0.0.9 on 10.3-updates while it's 
still on 2.0.0.6 in Factory.
Since in 10.3 it was a security update I wonder why it can be that it's 
still old in Factory.
I would expect a policy that Factory should get necessary updates at 
around the same time.


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Re: [opensuse-factory] security update policy

2008-01-10 Thread Stephan Kulow
Am Donnerstag 10 Januar 2008 schrieb Wolfgang Rosenauer:
 Hi,

 I'm wondering if there is any internal policy at Novell about security
 updates for Factory?
 I just found an example what shouldn't happen:

 MozillaThunderbird is on version 2.0.0.9 on 10.3-updates while it's
 still on 2.0.0.6 in Factory.
 Since in 10.3 it was a security update I wonder why it can be that it's
 still old in Factory.
 I would expect a policy that Factory should get necessary updates at
 around the same time.


What Factory are you looking at? I have 2.0.0.10 here

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Re: [opensuse-factory] security update policy

2008-01-10 Thread Wolfgang Rosenauer

Stephan Kulow wrote:

Am Donnerstag 10 Januar 2008 schrieb Wolfgang Rosenauer:

Hi,

I'm wondering if there is any internal policy at Novell about security
updates for Factory?
I just found an example what shouldn't happen:

MozillaThunderbird is on version 2.0.0.9 on 10.3-updates while it's
still on 2.0.0.6 in Factory.
Since in 10.3 it was a security update I wonder why it can be that it's
still old in Factory.
I would expect a policy that Factory should get necessary updates at
around the same time.



What Factory are you looking at? I have 2.0.0.10 here


No, you are looking at Firefox ;-)
And even that is old, so what.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] security update policy

2008-01-10 Thread M9.
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Wolfgang Rosenauer schreef:
 Hi,
 
 I'm wondering if there is any internal policy at Novell about security
 updates for Factory?
 I just found an example what shouldn't happen:
 
 MozillaThunderbird is on version 2.0.0.9 on 10.3-updates while it's
 still on 2.0.0.6 in Factory.
 Since in 10.3 it was a security update I wonder why it can be that it's
 still old in Factory.
 I would expect a policy that Factory should get necessary updates at
 around the same time.
 
 Wolfgang

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; nl; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128
SUSE/2.0.0.11-1.7 Firefox/2.0.0.11

is the current factory, if mozilla repo is used.. ;-)
(had to add it to solve problems with factory Thunderbird, which is also
too old: invalid message-filters..)


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Re: [opensuse-factory] security update policy

2008-01-10 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 07:50:46PM +0100, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm wondering if there is any internal policy at Novell about security 
 updates for Factory?
 I just found an example what shouldn't happen:
 
 MozillaThunderbird is on version 2.0.0.9 on 10.3-updates while it's 
 still on 2.0.0.6 in Factory.
 Since in 10.3 it was a security update I wonder why it can be that it's 
 still old in Factory.
 I would expect a policy that Factory should get necessary updates at 
 around the same time.

Yes, this should be the case.

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[opensuse-factory] Radeon Xpress 1250 resolution problems

2008-01-10 Thread Sid Boyce
I have a Acer TravelMate 7520 which has the above video on board. After 
installing 11.0 Alpha0 (since upgraded to latest Factory) and I can only 
get 800x600 with the fbdev driver that was done as part of the install. 
I've since installed ati-driver-installer-8.443.1-x86.x86_64.run, but it 
hangs at the cursor {*} after switching to kdm.


# /.../
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Identifier Layout[all]
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InputDeviceKeyboard[0] CoreKeyboard
InputDeviceMouse[1] CorePointer
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Option  Clone off
Option  Xinerama off
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InputDevices   /dev/gpmdata
InputDevices   /dev/input/mice
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/local
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Type1
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/URW
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Speedo
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/PEX
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/cyrillic
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/latin2/misc:unscaled
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/latin2/75dpi:unscaled
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/latin2/100dpi:unscaled
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/latin2/Type1
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/latin7/75dpi:unscaled
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/baekmuk:unscaled
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/japanese:unscaled
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/kwintv
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/truetype
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/uni:unscaled
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/CID
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/ucs/misc:unscaled
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/ucs/75dpi:unscaled
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/ucs/100dpi:unscaled
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/hellas/misc:unscaled
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Option  Protocol Standard
Option  XkbLayout gb
Option  XkbModel microsoftpro
Option  XkbRules xfree86
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Driver  synaptics
Option  Buttons 5
Option  Device /dev/input/mice
Option  Emulate3Buttons on
Option  HorizScrollDelta 0
Option  InputFashion Mouse
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Option  Vendor Sysp
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Identifier   aticonfig-Monitor[0]
Option  VendorName ATI Proprietary Driver
Option  ModelName Generic Autodetecting Monitor
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Driver  fglrx
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Help appreciated.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] security update policy

2008-01-10 Thread Stephan Kulow
Am Donnerstag 10 Januar 2008 schrieb Wolfgang Rosenauer:

  What Factory are you looking at? I have 2.0.0.10 here

 No, you are looking at Firefox ;-)
That's right, yes.

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Re: [opensuse] Installing wink to capture streaming video

2008-01-10 Thread David Bolt
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008, Philippe Landau wrote:-

Could someone please help me install this application on OpenSuse 10.3 ?

Maybe.

Snip

Downloading wink from
http://www.debugmode.com/wink/download.php
extract all, open wink15.tar-1, running install.sh,
then placing wink into /usr/bin, run wink from there
gets an error message about a library.

I'm afraid my Crystal Ball is in for it's 100,000 guess what the other
poster means service and so I'm afraid that without you actually giving
the full error message, you aren't going to get much help.

Now, while that may be true, if you haven't installed it already, you
might want to install libexpat0, since wink relies on libexpat.so.0
which is installed by that package.


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Re: [opensuse] odd /usr/bin thing

2008-01-10 Thread Dave Howorth
Jerry Feldman wrote:
 In Tru64 Unix, the clustering system invented a context-dependent
 symbolic link. This was added in Tru64 5.0. Since Tru64  Unix is
 proprietary, the installer can force the /usr tree into the root file
 system. I do know in Tru64 Unix 4.x you could place /usr in a separate
 file system. 

As I posted earlier:

 Compaq Tru64 UNIX V5.1B (Rev. 2650); Tue Sep  2 17:51:37 BST 2003

 % ls -ld /bin
 lrwxr-xr-x   1 root system   7 Aug 22  2003 /bin@ - usr/bin/

 % ls -l /bin/sh
 -rwxr-xr-x   2 bin  bin 149840 Apr 15  2003 /bin/sh*

 % df -h
 Filesystem SizeUsed   Available Capacity  Mounted on
 /dev/disk/dsk0a240M208M   7666K97%/
 /dev/disk/dsk0g   1923M   1335M395M78%/usr

I guess the installer didn't force it to be in the same filesystem on
our box. Or our sysadmin hacked it later for some reason :)

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Re: [opensuse] VirtualBox dos6.22 guest

2008-01-10 Thread Marcin Floryan
Did you try DOSBox (http://www.dosbox.com/) I found it to perform quite well.

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Re: [opensuse] unable to mount partition

2008-01-10 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Thursday 2008-01-10 at 14:44 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:

This device wouldn't be a partition created in Windows and be formatted with 
Windows?


If it is then boot into Windows and then SAFELY REMOVE it using Windows. It 
seems that if you just unplug the device without 'removing' it a flag (on the 
device) remains set and Linux assumes that it is already mounted (or 
something like this :-) ).


That's a different thing.

Partitions will always be seen by linux. However, linux will refuse to 
mount read/write an ntfs partition not properly closed by windows and will 
open it read only.


That is not what is hapening here...

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Re: [opensuse] unable to mount partition

2008-01-10 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Thursday 2008-01-10 at 08:46 +0100, Sebastian Reitenbach wrote:


Michael Kershaw  wrote:

Could be something as simple as the device-mapper having a file handle
to the partition already.  Don't know if you've fiddled in that area
at all though.

I haven't fiddled around with that, at least not intentionally. But this was
the missing hint. I found a /dev/mapper/1transtecT5016R_0-part1 that I was
able to mount without a problem.


But why? Why was that dev mapper thing there?  :-?

I heard of this problem another time, and we couldn't track it.


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Re: [opensuse] unable to mount partition

2008-01-10 Thread Sebastian Reitenbach
David C. Rankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Sebastian Reitenbach wrote:
  Hi,
  David C. Rankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  Sebastian Reitenbach wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I am unable to mount a partition, whenever I try I get the following 
  error 
  message:
 
  mount /export
  mount: /dev/sdc1 already mounted or /export busy
 
 
 Is /export a Windows NTFS formatted file system that you run dual-boot.
 If so, like was mentioned earlier, your last Windows session did not
 shut down cleanly and will not mount until you reboot and let XP of God
 forbid Vista clean up after themselves. If that is the problem, it will
 mount fine after that.
 
 If not, I'm running out of ammo except to look at the partition in a
 partitioner. All that data is backed up - right?

as mentioned in another mail, the device mapper made kept sdc1 busy. 
in /etc/blkid.tab I found these lines:

device DEVNO=0x0802 TIME=1198055523 
UUID=212b4536-513f-4177-8d91-afc2b26be284 SEC_TYPE=ext2 
TYPE=ext3/dev/sda2/device
device DEVNO=0x0811 TIME=1198055523 
UUID=83db89c9-88a7-4c09-8026-01a9bd71c757 SEC_TYPE=ext2 
TYPE=ext3/dev/sdb1/device
device DEVNO=0x0812 TIME=1198055523 
UUID=60a371a6-6e24-4a3d-bfe9-d3491f08cd83 SEC_TYPE=ext2 
TYPE=ext3/dev/sdb2/device
device DEVNO=0x0813 TIME=1198055523 
UUID=0d8ec0ca-9670-4e87-a37e-aac3914a7651 SEC_TYPE=ext2 
TYPE=ext3/dev/sdb3/device
device DEVNO=0x0815 TIME=1198055523 
UUID=cf71aa66-2a51-4596-967b-bc12faec5438 SEC_TYPE=ext2 
TYPE=ext3/dev/sdb5/device
device DEVNO=0x0821 TIME=1198055523 
UUID=51bba5c7-acda-4019-94d8-691103f30616 SEC_TYPE=ext2 
TYPE=ext3/dev/sdc1/device
device DEVNO=0xfd03 TIME=1199870056 
UUID=4e4b8361-0c9f-47c5-ac47-34398148d78e SEC_TYPE=ext2 
TYPE=ext3/dev/dm-3/device

The UUID for /dev/sdc1 and /dev/dm-3 are the same, so I remove the last line 
and rebooted the system. My hope was that the /dev/mapper/... stuff for the 
sdc disk will disappear, but that was not the case, the removed line appeare 
again in the /etc/blkid.tab file, /dev/sdc1 still busy, and I only was able 
to mount /dev/mapper/

I wonder why this is not happen to the /dev/sdb* partitions. I haven't 
configure anything related to that intentionally.  The sdb and sdc are two 
disks with each 1.7 TB, it is just that sdb is divided into a lot partitions 
where sdc is just one large partition. I have no idea why it should but 
maybe it depends somehow on the size of the partition?

I have the disks connected via SCSI to another 10.2 box, there does 
the /etc/blkid.tab file not exist, and I can just mount /dev/sdc1 there.
dm_mod module is loaded on both systems.


also a rpm -qf /etc/blkid.tab says file /etc/blkid.tab is not owned by any 
package. 

So I am still wondering, why this happens to /dev/sdc but not to /dev/sdb, 
any idea?

cheers
Sebastian

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Re: [opensuse] unable to mount partition

2008-01-10 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Thursday 2008-01-10 at 12:11 +0100, Sebastian Reitenbach wrote:


also a rpm -qf /etc/blkid.tab says file /etc/blkid.tab is not owned by any
package.


And the command apropos blkid.tab yields nothing, so it is not 
documented :-(


Nothing in '/usr/src/linux/Documentation' either.

Ah, some mentions in /usr/share/doc/packages/e2fsprogs/, in the release 
notes and libblkid.txt


I think you found a bug; try reporting it to bugzilla.

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Re: [opensuse] odd /usr/bin thing

2008-01-10 Thread Bill Anderson



Jerry Houston wrote:

Bill Anderson wrote:
  

...This was my first exposure to Unix. Roughly six years later, I was
a Product Line Engineering Manger at Fortune Systems. Those were wild
and exciting days in Silicon Valley.



You were a manger?  How holy!  Or rustic!  Or something 
 
  
I was happier as a programmer, but kept getting promoted. I hated doing 
budgets, employee reviews, hiring, and spending my life in meetings. The 
solution was to become a consultant. Hard to get promoted out of what 
you enjoy doing.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: VirtualBox dos6.22 guest

2008-01-10 Thread Tom Patton

On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 07:49 +0100, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
 Tom Patton wrote:
  On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 19:43 -0700, Tom Patton wrote:
  
 Afaik, older 16bit DOS based Operating Systems from this widely unknown
 company always maxed out the CPU at idle. I experienced the same with
 Win 9x both in real life and in vmware.
 
 Maybe DOS is suffering from the same desease?
 
 kind regards
 Eberhard
 
I believe you are correct...and most the complaints on their forum were
for win3.11 and win9x.  XP seems very happy on my Thinkpad, I'll try the
app today.

Thanks,
Tom


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[opensuse] Prstat equivalent

2008-01-10 Thread Kain, Becki (B.)
 
Hello:

I tried searching at en.opensuse.org but search is disabled, come back
later.  I'm looking for the equivalent of prstat, or something that
will break down the threads that are part of a process to see why a
process is pegging a cpu.  Strace -p pid attatches my process, gives
me a read and then just sits there.  I don't think that will work if
the process is in a race condition, which is what I'm trying to solve.
Ideas please?

TIA

-becki kain

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[opensuse] Access a remote openSuSE installation sitting behind NAT

2008-01-10 Thread Marcin Floryan
Hi!

I have recently installed a fresh openSuSE 10.3 for one of my friends
who mainly uses his box to browse the Internet and has little
technical skills. It seems like he has some problems with the sound
card setup and I would like to investigate but have no access to the
computer (ie. physical) and though on broadband the machine is behind
a NAT (and possibly a firewall) with no public IP so can't connect to
it either.

Is there a way that I could access the machine (ssh, vnc) with as
little user intervention as possible (ideally just a simple command).
I sit behind a NAT myself by should be able to configure some port
forwarding if necessary.

Any suggestions welcome.

Cheers,
Marcin

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Re: [opensuse] Access a remote openSuSE installation sitting behind NAT

2008-01-10 Thread Sylvester Lykkehus

Marcin Floryan wrote:

Hi!

I have recently installed a fresh openSuSE 10.3 for one of my friends
who mainly uses his box to browse the Internet and has little
technical skills. It seems like he has some problems with the sound
card setup and I would like to investigate but have no access to the
computer (ie. physical) and though on broadband the machine is behind
a NAT (and possibly a firewall) with no public IP so can't connect to
it either.

Is there a way that I could access the machine (ssh, vnc) with as
little user intervention as possible (ideally just a simple command).
I sit behind a NAT myself by should be able to configure some port
forwarding if necessary.

Any suggestions welcome.

Cheers,
Marcin



If you or your friend have no control of the NAT to forward ports, this 
could be done with ssh port forwarding (tunneling).


If it is possible for him to connect to your machine, he could create a 
remote port forward by doing something like:

ssh -R :localhost:22 your_ip

Then you should be able to connect to him, on port  localhost.

Best regards
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Re: [opensuse] KMail vs. Thunderbird in handling lots of e-mails

2008-01-10 Thread Sergey Mkrtchyan
G T Smith wrote:
 
 OK, second question what is your mail delivery setup? This looks too me
 like a corrupt mailbox/msf file related problem.

It is just configured for POP access to gmail(though I'm not sure if
this answers your question?).

I didn't have that problem, and it now only occurs with
attachments over 400 KB. For example with the same Thunderbird and other
account I use for this mailing list everything is fine. And I remember
having attachments over 10 Mb with nor problem at all.

I even removed all my accounts, then manually removed folders for them,
and it still didn't work with just one account.

Sergey

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Re: [opensuse] search for word in huge txt file

2008-01-10 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Randall R Schulz wrote:

On Tuesday 25 December 2007 11:37, Carlos E. R. wrote:

The Tuesday 2007-12-25 at 12:47 -0500, afan pasalic wrote:

It is console program:
  mc

File is too large: Inbox

:(

Impossible!

I just opened a 4.7GB file to try (a DVD image). No problem!


Perhaps we should be considering the possibility that there is some file 
system corruption afoot on Afan's system?


Or possibly the mailbox file.







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Re: [opensuse] Prstat equivalent

2008-01-10 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Thursday 2008-01-10 at 09:03 -0500, Kain, Becki (B.) wrote:


later.  I'm looking for the equivalent of prstat, or something that
will break down the threads that are part of a process to see why a
process is pegging a cpu.  Strace -p pid attatches my process, gives
me a read and then just sits there.


There is an option for strace to log the children activities, on the same 
or on a different file. But I don't know if it will work by giving the 
pid, or you need to start the parent from strace.


Also, the command top can show the threads of a process:

   Task_Area_defaults
  'b' - Bold hilite  On  (not 'reverse')
* 'c' - Command line Off (name, not cmdline)
* 'H' - Threads  Off (show all threads)

But I don't know what combination will output only a parent and its 
children.


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RE: [opensuse] Prstat equivalent

2008-01-10 Thread Kain, Becki (B.)
Thanks but strace doesn't seem to do anything with a running process.   

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The Thursday 2008-01-10 at 09:03 -0500, Kain, Becki (B.) wrote:

 later.  I'm looking for the equivalent of prstat, or something that
 will break down the threads that are part of a process to see why a
 process is pegging a cpu.  Strace -p pid attatches my process, gives
 me a read and then just sits there.

There is an option for strace to log the children activities, on the
same 
or on a different file. But I don't know if it will work by giving the 
pid, or you need to start the parent from strace.

Also, the command top can show the threads of a process:

Task_Area_defaults
   'b' - Bold hilite  On  (not 'reverse')
 * 'c' - Command line Off (name, not cmdline)
 * 'H' - Threads  Off (show all threads)

But I don't know what combination will output only a parent and its 
children.

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Re: [opensuse] Access a remote openSuSE installation sitting behind NAT

2008-01-10 Thread James Knott

Marcin Floryan wrote:

Hi!

I have recently installed a fresh openSuSE 10.3 for one of my friends
who mainly uses his box to browse the Internet and has little
technical skills. It seems like he has some problems with the sound
card setup and I would like to investigate but have no access to the
computer (ie. physical) and though on broadband the machine is behind
a NAT (and possibly a firewall) with no public IP so can't connect to
it either.

Is there a way that I could access the machine (ssh, vnc) with as
little user intervention as possible (ideally just a simple command).
I sit behind a NAT myself by should be able to configure some port
forwarding if necessary.

Any suggestions welcome.


You'll have to configure his firewall to forward ssh to his computer. 
Then use ssh -X to enable X forwarding and you can then run any 
application remotely.  You can probably do similar with OpenVNC, but I 
haven't tried it.



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Re: [opensuse] KMail vs. Thunderbird in handling lots of e-mails

2008-01-10 Thread G T Smith
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Sergey Mkrtchyan wrote:
 G T Smith wrote:
 OK, second question what is your mail delivery setup? This looks too me
 like a corrupt mailbox/msf file related problem.
 
 It is just configured for POP access to gmail(though I'm not sure if
 this answers your question?).
 
 I didn't have that problem, and it now only occurs with
 attachments over 400 KB. For example with the same Thunderbird and other
 account I use for this mailing list everything is fine. And I remember
 having attachments over 10 Mb with nor problem at all.
 
 I even removed all my accounts, then manually removed folders for them,
 and it still didn't work with just one account.
 
 Sergey
 

I think this has rather narrowed it down to a gmail (and possibly
Thunderbird) issue if you do not get the problem with other eMail
accounts. I do not use gmail, so do not know if they have any peculiar
restrictions that could explain the behaviour.

A work around could be to use fetchmail to get your gmail mail and
deliver it to the workstation locally and use Thunderbird to access the
mail locally.


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Re: [opensuse] How do I remove stale destop device icons in gnome desktop?

2008-01-10 Thread JP Rosevear

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 Hi,
 
 The gnome desktop insists on displaying icons in the desktop for 
 partitions I once had but Ino longer have. The delete entry in 
 properties is greyed out even for root. I searched the whole filesystem 
 for any *.desktop file named as one of them, or containing the name of one 
 of them: nothing found. I don't know where on earth it is getting those 
 names from, but I want them out, and I don't want new ones to appear.
 
 How do I delete those damm icons?

Are they listed in /etc/fstab still?

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Re: [opensuse] unable to mount partition

2008-01-10 Thread David C. Rankin
Sebastian Reitenbach wrote:
 David C. Rankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Sebastian Reitenbach wrote:
 Hi,
 David C. Rankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Sebastian Reitenbach wrote:
 Hi,

 I am unable to mount a partition, whenever I try I get the following 
 error 
 message:

 mount /export
 mount: /dev/sdc1 already mounted or /export busy

 Is /export a Windows NTFS formatted file system that you run dual-boot.
 If so, like was mentioned earlier, your last Windows session did not
 shut down cleanly and will not mount until you reboot and let XP of God
 forbid Vista clean up after themselves. If that is the problem, it will
 mount fine after that.

 If not, I'm running out of ammo except to look at the partition in a
 partitioner. All that data is backed up - right?
 
 as mentioned in another mail, the device mapper made kept sdc1 busy. 
 in /etc/blkid.tab I found these lines:
 
 device DEVNO=0x0802 TIME=1198055523 
 UUID=212b4536-513f-4177-8d91-afc2b26be284 SEC_TYPE=ext2 
 TYPE=ext3/dev/sda2/device
 device DEVNO=0x0811 TIME=1198055523 
 UUID=83db89c9-88a7-4c09-8026-01a9bd71c757 SEC_TYPE=ext2 
 TYPE=ext3/dev/sdb1/device
 device DEVNO=0x0812 TIME=1198055523 
 UUID=60a371a6-6e24-4a3d-bfe9-d3491f08cd83 SEC_TYPE=ext2 
 TYPE=ext3/dev/sdb2/device
 device DEVNO=0x0813 TIME=1198055523 
 UUID=0d8ec0ca-9670-4e87-a37e-aac3914a7651 SEC_TYPE=ext2 
 TYPE=ext3/dev/sdb3/device
 device DEVNO=0x0815 TIME=1198055523 
 UUID=cf71aa66-2a51-4596-967b-bc12faec5438 SEC_TYPE=ext2 
 TYPE=ext3/dev/sdb5/device
 device DEVNO=0x0821 TIME=1198055523 
 UUID=51bba5c7-acda-4019-94d8-691103f30616 SEC_TYPE=ext2 
 TYPE=ext3/dev/sdc1/device
 device DEVNO=0xfd03 TIME=1199870056 
 UUID=4e4b8361-0c9f-47c5-ac47-34398148d78e SEC_TYPE=ext2 
 TYPE=ext3/dev/dm-3/device
 
 The UUID for /dev/sdc1 and /dev/dm-3 are the same, so I remove the last line 
 and rebooted the system. My hope was that the /dev/mapper/... stuff for the 
 sdc disk will disappear, but that was not the case, the removed line appeare 
 again in the /etc/blkid.tab file, /dev/sdc1 still busy, and I only was able 
 to mount /dev/mapper/
 
 I wonder why this is not happen to the /dev/sdb* partitions. I haven't 
 configure anything related to that intentionally.  The sdb and sdc are two 
 disks with each 1.7 TB, it is just that sdb is divided into a lot partitions 
 where sdc is just one large partition. I have no idea why it should but 
 maybe it depends somehow on the size of the partition?
 
 I have the disks connected via SCSI to another 10.2 box, there does 
 the /etc/blkid.tab file not exist, and I can just mount /dev/sdc1 there.
 dm_mod module is loaded on both systems.
 
 
 also a rpm -qf /etc/blkid.tab says file /etc/blkid.tab is not owned by any 
 package. 
 
 So I am still wondering, why this happens to /dev/sdc but not to /dev/sdb, 
 any idea?
 
 cheers
 Sebastian
 

It may be a bug similar to the one I encountered with Yast's definition
of the /dev/mapper raid partitions. File a bug report and list the
following as related:

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=350573



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Re: [opensuse] unable to mount partition

2008-01-10 Thread David C. Rankin
Carlos E. R. wrote:
 
 
 The Thursday 2008-01-10 at 08:46 +0100, Sebastian Reitenbach wrote:
 
 Michael Kershaw  wrote:
 Could be something as simple as the device-mapper having a file handle
 to the partition already.  Don't know if you've fiddled in that area
 at all though.
 I haven't fiddled around with that, at least not intentionally. But
 this was
 the missing hint. I found a /dev/mapper/1transtecT5016R_0-part1 that I
 was
 able to mount without a problem.
 
 But why? Why was that dev mapper thing there?  :-?
 
 I heard of this problem another time, and we couldn't track it.
 

The /dev/mapper thing is the result of a bios raid install. Yast
creates those things to map multiple disk to a single partition in raid.

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Re: [opensuse] Prstat equivalent

2008-01-10 Thread Russell Jones

strace -f -p pid ?
Kain, Becki (B.) wrote:
Thanks but strace doesn't seem to do anything with a running process.   


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The Thursday 2008-01-10 at 09:03 -0500, Kain, Becki (B.) wrote:

  

later.  I'm looking for the equivalent of prstat, or something that
will break down the threads that are part of a process to see why a
process is pegging a cpu.  Strace -p pid attatches my process, gives
me a read and then just sits there.



There is an option for strace to log the children activities, on the
same 
or on a different file. But I don't know if it will work by giving the 
pid, or you need to start the parent from strace.


Also, the command top can show the threads of a process:

Task_Area_defaults
   'b' - Bold hilite  On  (not 'reverse')
 * 'c' - Command line Off (name, not cmdline)
 * 'H' - Threads  Off (show all threads)

But I don't know what combination will output only a parent and its 
children.


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Carlos E. R.

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Re: [opensuse] kde and the kate editor

2008-01-10 Thread Jonas Helgi Palsson
Hi

On Tuesday 08 January 2008 19:45:05 Wendell Nichols wrote:
 Kate drives me nuts.  Its a good editor but every time you right click
 to edit a file in konqueror using kate it starts a new window.  If I use
 a command window and specify --use it will reuse an existing window if
 one is started for the session I specify.  However because kdeinit
 starts it I cannot pass a parm through konqueror.
 So I get 30 kate windows on my desktop when all I want is one.  Ideally
 I'd like kate to open the file I've chosen in the instance of kate which
 is already open ON THAT DESKTOP.

 Has anyone figured this out?
 Sorry if this is an inappropriate forum... well not all that sorry
 wcn


Now the simple answer is (of course) DCOP!

But how to make it work was not so easy :-)

What you need to do is 
1. Keep track of which virtual desktop you are on
2. Keep track of which Kate process is on which virtual desktop
3. Use DCOP to instruct (the correct) Kate to open the selected file.


Here is a way to do it (with some quick'n'ugly scripts):

First make a directory to keep some tempfiles

mkdir ~/.kate_pid

then we make 2 bash scripts, put them in your ~/bin/ or where ever you fancy.

1: start_kate.sh
cut here---
#!/bin/bash
# Get current virtual desktop
VIRT_DESKTOP=$(dcop kwin KWinInterface currentDesktop)
#Now we start kate with all the arguments that we recived
kate $@
echo -n $!  ~/.kate_pid/kate_pid.$VIRT_DESKTOP
exit 0;
cut here---
2: kate_open_file.sh
cut here---
#!/bin/bash
# The encoding used, utf8 is the usual one
ENCODING=utf8
# We need to find out which virtual destop we are on
VIRT_DESKTOP=$(dcop kwin KWinInterface currentDesktop)
# We need to see if there is a pid file for that desktop
if [ -f ~/.kate_pid/kate_pid.$VIRT_DESKTOP ] ; then
#Yes there was, now we need to check if the kate process
#belonging to that pid is still alive
#First find the pid
KATE_PID=$(cat ~/.kate_pid/kate_pid.$VIRT_DESKTOP)
if [ $(dcop kate-$KATE_PID /dev/null 21; echo $?) -gt 0 ] ; then
#No it is not, so we start it
kate $@
# and record the pid for reuse
echo -n $!  ~/.kate_pid/kate_pid.$VIRT_DESKTOP
else
# now some DCOP magic
dcop kate-$KATE_PID KateApplication openURL $1 $ENCODING
fi
else
#there was no kate_pid file so we start kate.
kate $@
# and record the pid for reuse
echo -n $!  ~/.kate_pid/kate_pid.$VIRT_DESKTOP
fi
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Use the start_kate.sh wrapper to start Kate on a virtual desktop. (Not really 
needed)

Then make a new action in Konqueror to open files, and have it run:
/the/path/to/the/script/kate_open_file.sh %U

That should do it :-)

Notice that there is no error checking at all in the scripts, so if you use 
it, please make it better and post the result :-)

regards
Jonas
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Re: [opensuse] Posix Shared Memory - for ATI Drivers - Network card issue

2008-01-10 Thread K.R. Foley
Sergio S. wrote:
 Hello there,
 
 I have read on the ati website that in order to install properly the
 graphics card drivers
 I need to have enable the posix shared memory feature
 
 http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html
 
 I followed the instructions below quoted
 
   To enable POSIX Shared Memory on your system, perform the following as 
 root:
 
1. Add the following line to /etc/fstab (if it isn't there already): 
 tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
2. Mount shared memory as follows: mount /dev/shm
3. Issue the following command to check that it mounted properly: 
 mount | grep shm
 
   If the mount was successful, then the following output (or similar) 
 should appear:
   tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) 
 
 and the result appeared as it stated above.
 
 But after I edited the /etc/fstab file adding that line and having restarted 
 the system
 
 the outcome was that the ethernet card was deactivated.
 
 On my adsl modem the ethernet light was off, and therefore no internet 
 connection.
 
 In the meantime I removed that line from fstab.
 
 Any suggestion on how to enable the Posix Shared memory feature and keeping 
 the network card working ?
 
 Many thanks,
 
 Sergio
 
 
 

Unless you are using some OLD version of Linunx. posix shared memory is
probably already enabled. Type mount and look for /dev/shm.

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[opensuse] Posix Shared Memory - for ATI Drivers - Network card issue

2008-01-10 Thread Sergio S.
Hello there,

I have read on the ati website that in order to install properly the
graphics card drivers
I need to have enable the posix shared memory feature

http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html

I followed the instructions below quoted

To enable POSIX Shared Memory on your system, perform the following as 
root:

 1. Add the following line to /etc/fstab (if it isn't there already): 
tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
 2. Mount shared memory as follows: mount /dev/shm
 3. Issue the following command to check that it mounted properly: 
mount | grep shm

If the mount was successful, then the following output (or similar) 
should appear:
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) 

and the result appeared as it stated above.

But after I edited the /etc/fstab file adding that line and having restarted 
the system

the outcome was that the ethernet card was deactivated.

On my adsl modem the ethernet light was off, and therefore no internet 
connection.

In the meantime I removed that line from fstab.

Any suggestion on how to enable the Posix Shared memory feature and keeping the 
network card working ?

Many thanks,

Sergio



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Re: [opensuse] Posix Shared Memory - for ATI Drivers - Network card issue

2008-01-10 Thread Sloan
Sergio S. wrote:
 Hello there,

 I have read on the ati website that in order to install properly the
 graphics card drivers
 I need to have enable the posix shared memory feature

 http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html

   
snip

I don't think any of that was necessary.

Any modern distro, suse included, comes with shared memory already set
up and ready to go, so there's no need to go through any of the
contortions outlined at the URL you referenced.

Disclaimer: I use only intel and nvidia video, hopefully some ATI users
will help you undo the damage and get the drivers installed correctly.

Joe
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Re: [opensuse] Posix Shared Memory - for ATI Drivers - Network card issue

2008-01-10 Thread Sergio S.
Thank you

K.R. Foley escribió:
 Sergio S. wrote:
 Hello there,

 I have read on the ati website that in order to install properly the
 graphics card drivers
 I need to have enable the posix shared memory feature

 http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html

 I followed the instructions below quoted

  To enable POSIX Shared Memory on your system, perform the following as 
 root:

   1. Add the following line to /etc/fstab (if it isn't there already): 
 tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
   2. Mount shared memory as follows: mount /dev/shm
   3. Issue the following command to check that it mounted properly: 
 mount | grep shm

  If the mount was successful, then the following output (or similar) 
 should appear:
  tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) 

 and the result appeared as it stated above.

 But after I edited the /etc/fstab file adding that line and having restarted 
 the system

 the outcome was that the ethernet card was deactivated.

 On my adsl modem the ethernet light was off, and therefore no internet 
 connection.

 In the meantime I removed that line from fstab.

 Any suggestion on how to enable the Posix Shared memory feature and keeping 
 the network card working ?

 Many thanks,

 Sergio



 
 Unless you are using some OLD version of Linunx. posix shared memory is
 probably already enabled. Type mount and look for /dev/shm.

I am using Opensuse 10.3

I typed mount, and this is the outcome


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ mount
/dev/sda3 on / type ext3 (rw,acl,user_xattr)
proc on /proc type proc (rw)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
debugfs on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw)
udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,mode=0620,gid=5)
/dev/sda6 on /home type ext3 (rw,acl,user_xattr)
/dev/sda1 on /windows_C type fuseblk
(rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
/dev/sda4 on /windows_D type fuseblk
(rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)

Is any of these lines saying that it's enabled ?

Thanks

S.




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Re: [opensuse] odd /usr/bin thing

2008-01-10 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Jerry Houston wrote:

Bill Anderson wrote:

...This was my first exposure to Unix. Roughly six years later, I was
a Product Line Engineering Manger at Fortune Systems. Those were wild
and exciting days in Silicon Valley.


You were a manger?  How holy!  Or rustic!  Or something 


That's why he feeds livestock to this very day ;-)


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Re: [opensuse] Access a remote openSuSE installation sitting behind NAT

2008-01-10 Thread Marcin Floryan
Hello!

Yup, crude solution but it seems to work very well. Thanks!

Though I wonder now if there is any way to do that is I didn't have a
public IP server at hand (ie. two machines behind NAT with no
influence on the Firewall). More out of curiosity since the problem at
hand has now been solved.

Cheers!

Marcin

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 If you or your friend have no control of the NAT to forward ports, this
 could be done with ssh port forwarding (tunneling).

 If it is possible for him to connect to your machine, he could create a
 remote port forward by doing something like:
 ssh -R :localhost:22 your_ip
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Re: [opensuse] odd /usr/bin thing

2008-01-10 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Bill Anderson wrote:



Jerry Houston wrote:

Bill Anderson wrote:
 

...This was my first exposure to Unix. Roughly six years later, I was
a Product Line Engineering Manger at Fortune Systems. Those were wild
and exciting days in Silicon Valley.



You were a manger?  How holy!  Or rustic!  Or something 
 
  

I was happier as a programmer,


I'll bet--no messy animal feedings!

 but kept getting promoted.

Promoted???


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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE 10.3 couldn't shutdown

2008-01-10 Thread kanenas
On Wednesday 09 January 2008 11:24:06 am Greg KH wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 03:13:19PM -0600, David C. Rankin wrote:
  Andy Clus wrote:
Hi,
 I've been using openSUSE 10.3 for few months and have no problems
   with it. But recently, the shutdown feature is disabled by some unknown
   reasons. I use GNOME, when I select Computer - Shutdown, the Shutdown
   and Restart options are disabled, and I can only choose Sleep or
   Hibernate. So when I want to turn off the computer, I have to either
   use shutdown -h 0 or logout first, then choose Shutdown from the
   Login screen, which is very inconvenient.
Has anyone have the same problem? Could you please show me how to fix
   it?
  
Thanks,
  
   Andy
 
  Nightmare issue:
 
  https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=331747
 
  All of my hand built boxes shut down just fine. All of my Dell built
  boxes hang...

 Yeah, this problem is a huge pain, I still can't reproduce the issue
 myself so as to make it easier to try to track down.  But I'm going to
 go through my closet of old hardware next week to try to find something
 that breaks...

 ugh, no fun.

 greg k-h

Bug 331747 is listed as an x-86 bug. i know next to nothing about bugzilla. Is 
there a listing for an x-86-64 bug in a duo core system? the mobo is an abit 
F-190hd and I *do* have the problem.
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Re: [opensuse] Posix Shared Memory - for ATI Drivers - Network card issue

2008-01-10 Thread Carlos E. R.

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Unless you are using some OLD version of Linunx. posix shared memory is
probably already enabled. Type mount and look for /dev/shm.


Certainly not in my opensuse 10.3:

nimrodel:~ # mount | grep shm
nimrodel:~ #


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Re: [opensuse] Posix Shared Memory - for ATI Drivers - Network card issue

2008-01-10 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Thursday 2008-01-10 at 13:02 -0500, Sergio S. wrote:


To enable POSIX Shared Memory on your system, perform the following as 
root:

 1. Add the following line to /etc/fstab (if it isn't there already): 
tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
 2. Mount shared memory as follows: mount /dev/shm


This is wrong on a suse 10.3:

nimrodel:~ # l /dev/shm/
total 0
drwxrwxrwt  3 root root   60 Jan  9 04:21 ./
drwxr-xr-x 11 root root 7880 Jan 10 19:40 ../
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root  320 Jan  9 04:21 sysconfig/

Because '/dev/shm' is a directory!

But reading again the fstab line above, /dev/shm is the mount point, not 
the device node to mount somewhere else. Thus, opensuse 10.3 already comes 
with '/dev/shm' mounted, but it doesn't show in the command mount, it must 
be done in some other way.


So... those instructions are incorrect, and we do have that posix shared 
memory thing. If the driver says otherwise, the driver must be old.


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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE 10.3 couldn't shutdown

2008-01-10 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 10:40:18AM -1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wednesday 09 January 2008 11:24:06 am Greg KH wrote:
  On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 03:13:19PM -0600, David C. Rankin wrote:
   Andy Clus wrote:
 Hi,
  I've been using openSUSE 10.3 for few months and have no problems
with it. But recently, the shutdown feature is disabled by some unknown
reasons. I use GNOME, when I select Computer - Shutdown, the Shutdown
and Restart options are disabled, and I can only choose Sleep or
Hibernate. So when I want to turn off the computer, I have to either
use shutdown -h 0 or logout first, then choose Shutdown from the
Login screen, which is very inconvenient.
 Has anyone have the same problem? Could you please show me how to fix
it?
   
 Thanks,
   
Andy
  
   Nightmare issue:
  
   https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=331747
  
   All of my hand built boxes shut down just fine. All of my Dell built
   boxes hang...
 
  Yeah, this problem is a huge pain, I still can't reproduce the issue
  myself so as to make it easier to try to track down.  But I'm going to
  go through my closet of old hardware next week to try to find something
  that breaks...
 
  ugh, no fun.
 
  greg k-h
 
 Bug 331747 is listed as an x-86 bug. i know next to nothing about bugzilla. 
 Is 
 there a listing for an x-86-64 bug in a duo core system? the mobo is an abit 
 F-190hd and I *do* have the problem.

That issue should be solved in the latest kernel-of-the-day.  If not,
please let me know.

thanks,

greg k-h
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Re: [opensuse] like acobat reader

2008-01-10 Thread peter

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Ugo De Marinis(191) schrieb:

| can someone help me to find an editor like acrobat reader in linux
suse 10.2
| 0r 10.3?

Acrobat Reader for Linux ;)

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Re: [opensuse] Access a remote openSuSE installation sitting behind NAT

2008-01-10 Thread peter

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Marcin Floryan wrote:

| Though I wonder now if there is any way to do that is I didn't have a
| public IP server at hand (ie. two machines behind NAT with no
| influence on the Firewall). More out of curiosity since the problem at
| hand has now been solved.

Well I'm not quit sure I did get you fully, but have you tried to set up
e.g. dyndns.org for you both?

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Re: [opensuse] like acobat reader

2008-01-10 Thread Philippe Landau
peter wrote:
 Ugo De Marinis(191) schrieb:
 
 | can someone help me to find an editor like acrobat reader in linux
 suse 10.2
 | 0r 10.3?
 
 Acrobat Reader for Linux ;)

evince is probably safer:
Adobe applications are notorious for phoning home,
telling Adobe what you do when,
and Adobe is a known bully of the copyright mafia.
Additionally, Adobe software tells the authors of
some pdf files when you open/read their documents.

Kind regards Philippe
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Re: [opensuse] Posix Shared Memory - for ATI Drivers - Network card issue

2008-01-10 Thread K.R. Foley
Sergio S. wrote:
 Thank you
 
 K.R. Foley escribió:
 Sergio S. wrote:
 Hello there,

 I have read on the ati website that in order to install properly the
 graphics card drivers
 I need to have enable the posix shared memory feature

 http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html

 I followed the instructions below quoted

 To enable POSIX Shared Memory on your system, perform the following as 
 root:

  1. Add the following line to /etc/fstab (if it isn't there already): 
 tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
  2. Mount shared memory as follows: mount /dev/shm
  3. Issue the following command to check that it mounted properly: 
 mount | grep shm

 If the mount was successful, then the following output (or similar) 
 should appear:
 tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) 

 and the result appeared as it stated above.

 But after I edited the /etc/fstab file adding that line and having 
 restarted the system

 the outcome was that the ethernet card was deactivated.

 On my adsl modem the ethernet light was off, and therefore no internet 
 connection.

 In the meantime I removed that line from fstab.

 Any suggestion on how to enable the Posix Shared memory feature and keeping 
 the network card working ?

 Many thanks,

 Sergio



 Unless you are using some OLD version of Linunx. posix shared memory is
 probably already enabled. Type mount and look for /dev/shm.
 
 I am using Opensuse 10.3
 
 I typed mount, and this is the outcome
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ mount
 /dev/sda3 on / type ext3 (rw,acl,user_xattr)
 proc on /proc type proc (rw)
 sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
 debugfs on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw)
 udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw)
 devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,mode=0620,gid=5)
 /dev/sda6 on /home type ext3 (rw,acl,user_xattr)
 /dev/sda1 on /windows_C type fuseblk
 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
 /dev/sda4 on /windows_D type fuseblk
 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
 securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
 
 Is any of these lines saying that it's enabled ?
 
 Thanks
 
 S.

Sorry. Unfortunately newer systems evidently don't mount /dev/shm in the
same fashion as older systems do, possibly because now /dev itself is
mounted as a tmpfs. Not sure. However, I would be very surprised if your
10.3 system doesn't have posix shared memory capabilities enabled.
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[opensuse] DVDStyler crashing

2008-01-10 Thread Teruel de Campo MD
ref: 
* opensuse 10.3 
* 2.6.22.13-0.3-default
* dvdstyler: 1.6  
* form rpm packman and 
* for source   

Problem: 
1. It load ok but produce the following error

(dvdstyler:20604): Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_menu_attach_to_widget(): menu
already attached to GtkMenuItem


2. Then I load a project that was running OK and burning OK early (aka
after installation of 10.3 and before any upgrades) and loads ok. Not I
try to burn or create an iso image

Output #0, dvd, to '/ULTRA/dvd/dvd/dvd/menu1-0.mpg_bg.mpg':
Stream #0.0: Video: mpeg2video, yuv411p, 720x480 [PAR 0:1 DAR 0:1],
q=2-31, 6000 kb/s, 29.97 tb(c)
Stream #0.1: Audio: mp2, 48000 Hz, stereo, 64 kb/s
[mpeg2video @ 0x2afdadb3fa00]only YUV420 and YUV422 are supported
Segmentation fault

Any tips what should I do (downgrade? what?)

TIA

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Re: [opensuse] like acobat reader

2008-01-10 Thread Michael Skiba
Am Donnerstag, 10. Januar 2008 22:51:48 schrieb Philippe Landau:
 evince is probably safer:
 Adobe applications are notorious for phoning home,
 telling Adobe what you do when,
 and Adobe is a known bully of the copyright mafia.
 Additionally, Adobe software tells the authors of
 some pdf files when you open/read their documents.
Have any sources for it?

I knew Adobe was calling home, but that a person can request a notification 
was new to me... (or do you just mean the possibility?)

Greetings
Michael


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Re: [opensuse] Installing wink to capture streaming video

2008-01-10 Thread Philipp Thomas
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 03:30:46 +0100, Philippe Landau wrote:

Could someone please help me install this application on OpenSuse 10.3 ?
http://www.debugmode.com/wink/

I'd try this:

1) Download and install (via 'rpm -Uvh') the wink .src.rpm from
software.opensuse.org .
2) Change to /usr/src/packages/SOURCES and on i386 call
'rpmbuild -bb wink.spec' or on x86_64 (uname will tell you the
architecture) call 'linux32 rpmbuild -bb wink.spec').
3) Install the binary package you just built and which was put in
/usr/src/packages/RPMS/i586

If you have problems with this please post *all* info like the exact
error messages you get (complete cutpaste) other you have to provide
the crystal ball we'd need to help you.

Philipp
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Re: [opensuse] like acobat reader

2008-01-10 Thread peter

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Philippe Landau schrieb:

| | can someone help me to find an editor like acrobat reader in linux
| suse 10.2
| | 0r 10.3?

| Acrobat Reader for Linux ;)

| evince is probably safer:
probably, but ugo insisted on 'like acrobat reader'.
so acrobat reader is like acrobat reader. both are phoning home. :)

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Re: [opensuse] like acobat reader

2008-01-10 Thread Greg Freemyer
On Jan 10, 2008 5:28 PM, Michael Skiba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, 10. Januar 2008 22:51:48 schrieb Philippe Landau:
  evince is probably safer:
  Adobe applications are notorious for phoning home,
  telling Adobe what you do when,
  and Adobe is a known bully of the copyright mafia.
  Additionally, Adobe software tells the authors of
  some pdf files when you open/read their documents.
 Have any sources for it?

 I knew Adobe was calling home, but that a person can request a notification
 was new to me... (or do you just mean the possibility?)


PDF files can have internal macros to make this happen.  I have heard
of at least one company that has implemented the logic.

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Re: [opensuse] YAST2 not displaying package descriptions

2008-01-10 Thread Timothy Cahill
On January 9, 2008, Dave Plater wrote:
 Rajko M. wrote:
  On Tuesday 08 January 2008 02:33:39 pm Timothy Cahill wrote:
  installed from the live version. One annoyance is that I cannot see rpm
  package descriptions for most of the rpms that came with the DVD. When I
  browse the DVD using Konqueror, I can see that the descriptions are
  there, but in YAST2 the description tab is blank of all information

 I used to have that problem when I had an rpm only directory for my
 local repository (still wishing for a yast that saves rpms ) . It came
 right when I used createrepo to index the repository. The descriptions
 you see are contained in the rpm itself and createrepo places them in a
 gz compressed xml file in the repository. This is what takes a lot of
 time to download when a large repository refreshes.

Following your suggestion, I'm considering copying the DVD to harddisk, then 
running createrepo against the HD version. 
Too bad the live DVD ships with this problem. Doubly unfortunate that the SuSE 
team's policy is to leave flawed/broken distributions as is. It seems that 
this could be an easy thing to fix as a 10.3.01 release. While they were at 
it they could fix the broken link in YAST2's add community repositories 
application.

  KPackage, kde's package manager reads the description straight from the
 rpm. I don,t know what smart does, I've never got it to work properly.
 Dave

I'm now using SMART as my software manager, and it is working perfectly. From 
these directions 
http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/suse-linux-help/108589-howto-install-use-smart-opensuse-10-3-a.html

I did:
# zypper sa -r 
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/smart/openSUSE_10.3/smart.repo
# zypper ref smart
# zypper install smart
#  smart channel --add 
http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/files/smart/opensuse-10.3.txt

AFter this, I run smart from the KDE menu System -- configuration

Initially, the repositories (called channels by SMART) must be updated, and 
then I can download any new software or updates. The two most excellent 
things about smart are 1) if a download times out, you can just Apply the 
marked changes again, and smart only downloads the items that were not 
successful the last time. because 2) smart keeps local copies of everything 
it downloads. 

Let me know if you'd like further assistance. 






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Re: [opensuse] like acobat reader

2008-01-10 Thread Ben Kevan
On Thursday 10 January 2008 01:51:48 pm Philippe Landau wrote:

 evince is probably safer:
 Adobe applications are notorious for phoning home,
 telling Adobe what you do when,
 and Adobe is a known bully of the copyright mafia.
 Additionally, Adobe software tells the authors of
 some pdf files when you open/read their documents.

 Kind regards Philippe

I thought that was actually in CS and put in by a 3rd party tracking company? 

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Re: [opensuse] Installing wink to capture streaming video

2008-01-10 Thread peter

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Philipp Thomas schrieb:

| Could someone please help me install this application on OpenSuse 10.3 ?
| http://www.debugmode.com/wink/

| I'd try this:

| 1) Download and install (via 'rpm -Uvh') the wink .src.rpm from
| software.opensuse.org .

Quite impossible. AFAIK there is no scr.rpm for it m8. It's closed
source although freeware.

License agreement for Wink
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Copyright © 2000-2005 Satish Kumar. S
http://www.debugmode.com/

This software is provided 'as-is', without any express or implied
warranty. In no event will the author be held liable for any
consequences/damages arising from the use of this software.

This program and the accompanied DLLs/plugins/artwork are FREEWARE.  You
can use it for personal, business, educational or any other need of
yours, subject to the following restrictions:

1. You may not re-distribute this program without contacting the author
and getting his consent. You may not charge any fee or re-distribution
fee for it.

2. This notice may not be removed or altered from any distribution.

3. No form of decompilation/reverse engineering/disassembling parts or
whole of the software be done.

4. You may not misrepresent the origin of the software/artwork. If you
are distributing the package/portions of the package, the files must be
clearly indicated that they are part of DebugMode Wink software.

Thus:
wget -c http://freeware4u.com/hostfile/wink15.tar.gz
tar xzvf wink15.tar.gz
./installer.sh

Do not enjoy ;(

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Re: [opensuse] Installing wink to capture streaming video

2008-01-10 Thread Philippe Landau
Philipp Thomas wrote:
 On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 03:30:46 +0100, Philippe Landau wrote:
 
 Could someone please help me install this application on OpenSuse 10.3 ?
 http://www.debugmode.com/wink/
 
 I'd try this:
 
 1) Download and install (via 'rpm -Uvh') the wink .src.rpm from
 software.opensuse.org .
 2) Change to /usr/src/packages/SOURCES and on i386 call
 'rpmbuild -bb wink.spec' or on x86_64 (uname will tell you the
 architecture) call 'linux32 rpmbuild -bb wink.spec').
 3) Install the binary package you just built and which was put in
 /usr/src/packages/RPMS/i586
 
 If you have problems with this please post *all* info like the exact
 error messages you get (complete cutpaste) other you have to provide
 the crystal ball we'd need to help you.
A how-to was all i needed, Philipp, thank you for your help.
It works now, installing libexpat.so.0 did the trick.
Although it seems to lack sound so far,
so i used VLC to save the stream to disk.
There, sound of the first few seconds is dropped,
but otherwise the videos were saved well (wmv, dump as raw).

Kind regards Philippe
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Re: [opensuse] Installing wink to capture streaming video

2008-01-10 Thread Philippe Landau
peter wrote:
 It's closed source although freeware.
 
 Thus:
 wget -c http://freeware4u.com/hostfile/wink15.tar.gz
 tar xzvf wink15.tar.gz
 ./installer.sh
 
 Do not enjoy ;(

Interesting, thanks for the warning and the help, Peter.
Though beware there is an archive in the archive,
so unpack everything well first, then call the installer
to later find the app in your home dir/wink/wink.

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Re: [opensuse] like acobat reader

2008-01-10 Thread Philippe Landau
Greg Freemyer wrote:
 On Jan 10, 2008 5:28 PM, Michael Skiba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, 10. Januar 2008 22:51:48 schrieb Philippe Landau:
 evince is probably safer:
 Adobe applications are notorious for phoning home,
 telling Adobe what you do when,
 and Adobe is a known bully of the copyright mafia.
 Additionally, Adobe software tells the authors of
 some pdf files when you open/read their documents.
 Have any sources for it?

 I knew Adobe was calling home, but that a person can request a notification
 was new to me... (or do you just mean the possibility?)

 
 PDF files can have internal macros to make this happen.  I have heard
 of at least one company that has implemented the logic.

Had to rescue the page for the occasion, sorry for the
currently unavailable links to helping.net.
http://justwars.com/linux/Adobe-Acrobat-Spying-on-Users.html

Kind regards Philippe
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[opensuse] Re: Posix Shared Memory - for ATI Drivers - Network card issue

2008-01-10 Thread Patrick Shanahan
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:00:27 +0100 (CET), Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  The Thursday 2008-01-10 at 13:02 -0500, Sergio S. wrote:
 
  To enable POSIX Shared Memory on your system, perform the following as 
  root:
 
   1. Add the following line to /etc/fstab (if it isn't there already): 
  tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
   2. Mount shared memory as follows: mount /dev/shm
 
  This is wrong on a suse 10.3:
 

also on 10.1  :^)

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Re: [opensuse] Connecting to serial port (to be console) of 2nd suse box

2008-01-10 Thread Linda Walsh

Peter Bloomfield suggested minicom (thanks) and Tom Patton wrote:

On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 12:46 -0800, Linda Walsh wrote:

I have 3 machines in this setup.  The setup being:
---

Linda, load the lessons for Lizards documentation, and look at
How-To Access COM Port (RS-232 client/server)

---
??lessons for Lizards documentation?  *blink*
Say wah?  What's a lessons for Lizards?...wait...suse? Lizard?
still unclear...what or which document are you talking about? (sorry)



This uses the screen command, and is really perfect for you to get a
console over the serial port.
Or minicom.


ahh...screen or minicom I can probably find documentation
on...but the lessons for lizard thing's got me stumped.  :-)



..or why not a network connection, and tie them together with
a hub or switch?

--- 
They are tied together with a gigabit switch...but when
the kernel first boots, the network isn't available until later.
I need to use the serial port (AFAIK), if I want access to the console.
Have you ever done that over the network?...where you see all the bootup
messages come over the serial line and then it leaves you at the login
prompt on /dev/console (but over a serial port).

Two reasons 1) monitor that was shared by these machines died
(being replaced, but that doesn't help in the short term).
2) I want remote access to the console startup messages so
I can monitor a boot to see if it goes ok and if not, what died.
The computers I want to use the serial port for are in another room
from where I'm sitting -- even when they had a working monitor, it was
only for monitoring bootups or doing machine maintenance (the systems
I want to access the serial port console on don't even run a desktop).

Thanks..
Linda
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Re: [opensuse] like acobat reader

2008-01-10 Thread Don Raboud
On Thursday 10 January 2008 17:02, Philippe Landau wrote:
 Greg Freemyer wrote:
  On Jan 10, 2008 5:28 PM, Michael Skiba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Am Donnerstag, 10. Januar 2008 22:51:48 schrieb Philippe Landau:
  evince is probably safer:
  Adobe applications are notorious for phoning home,
  telling Adobe what you do when,
  and Adobe is a known bully of the copyright mafia.
  Additionally, Adobe software tells the authors of
  some pdf files when you open/read their documents.
 
  Have any sources for it?
 
  I knew Adobe was calling home, but that a person can request a
  notification was new to me... (or do you just mean the possibility?)
 
  PDF files can have internal macros to make this happen.  I have heard
  of at least one company that has implemented the logic.

 Had to rescue the page for the occasion, sorry for the
 currently unavailable links to helping.net.
 http://justwars.com/linux/Adobe-Acrobat-Spying-on-Users.html

Among the options one can set in Acrobat reader is to specify a proxy which I 
usually set to 127.0.0.1 to avoid things like this.  (I am not paranoid, just 
don't like the very idea.)  Of course, being closed source one has no idea if 
acrobat reader honors these settings or not.


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[opensuse] Re: Connecting to serial port (to be console) of 2nd suse box

2008-01-10 Thread Patrick Shanahan
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:22:56 -0800, Linda Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Peter Bloomfield suggested minicom (thanks) and Tom Patton wrote:
  On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 12:46 -0800, Linda Walsh wrote:
  I have 3 machines in this setup.  The setup being:
  ---
  Linda, load the lessons for Lizards documentation, and look at
  How-To Access COM Port (RS-232 client/server)
  ---
   ??lessons for Lizards documentation?  *blink*
   Say wah?  What's a lessons for Lizards?...wait...suse? Lizard?
   still unclear...what or which document are you talking about? (sorry)
 


Google *is* your friend.  Search for it.

lessons for lizards openSUSE

gives many hits with the best right at the top.

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Re: [opensuse] Installing wink to capture streaming video

2008-01-10 Thread Joe Sloan
Philippe Landau wrote:
 http://software.opensuse.org/search?p=1baseproject=ALLq=wink
 1-click install first lets me subscribe to a repository
 that i already am subscribed to, then reports:
 Software installation
 Installation was only partially successful.
 The following packages could not be installed
 wink
 
 Manual Package Download gives: Open with Install Software
 seems to install it but then just quits without report.
 
 Downloading wink from
 http://www.debugmode.com/wink/download.php
 extract all, open wink15.tar-1, running install.sh,
 then placing wink into /usr/bin, run wink from there
 gets an error message about a library.


Maybe I'm missing something, but why didn't you just say something like,
say, zypper install wink? Or, if you prefer the GUI approach, go to
yast-software management, search for wink and then click the
appropriate check box to install?

Joe


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Re: [opensuse] like acobat reader

2008-01-10 Thread Anders Johansson
On Friday 11 January 2008 02:25:57 Don Raboud wrote:
 Among the options one can set in Acrobat reader is to specify a proxy which
 I usually set to 127.0.0.1 to avoid things like this.  (I am not paranoid,
 just don't like the very idea.)  Of course, being closed source one has no
 idea if acrobat reader honors these settings or not.

Sure one has. Just use wireshark to see what it does. It can't bypass that. No 
need to sit around guessing, or tell scary stories

I have a hunch lots of people already have done that though, and if it did bad 
things, we would have heard about it by now, a lot louder than vague rumours 
on mailing lists

Anders

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Re: [opensuse] How do I remove stale destop device icons in gnome desktop?

2008-01-10 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Thursday 2008-01-10 at 11:24 -0500, JP Rosevear wrote:



The gnome desktop insists on displaying icons in the desktop for
partitions I once had but Ino longer have. The delete entry in
properties is greyed out even for root. I searched the whole filesystem
for any *.desktop file named as one of them, or containing the name of one
of them: nothing found. I don't know where on earth it is getting those
names from, but I want them out, and I don't want new ones to appear.

How do I delete those damm icons?


Are they listed in /etc/fstab still?


Yes and no.

In the fstab I have one at /mnt/usb/apin/dos, and in the desktop I have 
one named dos, but it is a diferent dos, beacuse in properties it has 
the volume label of another disk (160_root), a partition that no longer 
exists in the fstab (but it does in the partition table): it is 
currently my root partition:


nimrodel:~ # mount -l
/dev/hdd6 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime,nodiratime,acl,user_xattr) [160_root]


I have other entries in my desktop named 'E', 'F', 'uno', 'Kingston'... 
all of them refering to the same disk labeled '160_root'.


This is wrong...

[...]

Ok, the label shown is that of the root device on all icons.


Ok, if I try to mount one of them, I see that they refer to diferent 
volumes of those named in properties, that do in fact exist in the fstab.


Then, if I put a disk in fstab, gnome will put an icon for it? How can I 
tell it not to? This is idiotic: half my desktop is filled with those 
icons I never use.


Clicking on them first says unable to mount, see details, and if I click 
properties I see that it is counting the number of files there, but it 
never opens the nautilus folder showing them.


Useless and a waste of precious desktop space! I want to delete them from 
my desktop. How?


If I try to delete them I get permission denied. By whom? This is MY 
comptuter and MY desktop and my /home/user/whatever !


Idiotic.

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Re: [opensuse] Installing wink to capture streaming video

2008-01-10 Thread Anders Johansson
On Friday 11 January 2008 00:01:56 peter wrote:
 Philipp Thomas schrieb:
 | Could someone please help me install this application on OpenSuse 10.3 ?
 | http://www.debugmode.com/wink/
 |
 | I'd try this:
 |
 | 1) Download and install (via 'rpm -Uvh') the wink .src.rpm from
 | software.opensuse.org .

 Quite impossible. AFAIK there is no scr.rpm for it m8.

Yes there is. Look for yourself

PS. Note that at no point did Philipp say that the package should be compiled, 
just that the rpm should be built

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Re: [opensuse] Installing wink to capture streaming video

2008-01-10 Thread Philippe Landau
Joe Sloan wrote:
 Philippe Landau wrote:
 http://software.opensuse.org/search?p=1baseproject=ALLq=wink
 1-click install first lets me subscribe to a repository
 that i already am subscribed to, then reports:
 Software installation
 Installation was only partially successful.
 The following packages could not be installed
 wink
 Manual Package Download gives: Open with Install Software
 seems to install it but then just quits without report.

 Downloading wink from
 http://www.debugmode.com/wink/download.php
 extract all, open wink15.tar-1, running install.sh,
 then placing wink into /usr/bin, run wink from there
 gets an error message about a library.
 
 
 Maybe I'm missing something, but why didn't you just say something like,
 say, zypper install wink? Or, if you prefer the GUI approach, go to
 yast-software management, search for wink and then click the
 appropriate check box to install?

Because yast did not find wink that way.

Kind regards Philippe
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[opensuse] writing a module

2008-01-10 Thread Fernando Benedictti
Hellow there,

I'm trying to write a module, in my source i've added the following line

#include linux/module.h

Since the preprocessor did not found it, i set the variable 

 C_INCLUDE_PATH=/usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include

When i try to compile the source, the preprocessor tell me the following


-
In file included from /usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/thread_info.h:20,
 from /usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/preempt.h:9,
 from /usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/spinlock.h:49,
 from /usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/module.h:9,
 from simple_module.c:2:
/usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/bitops.h:9:24: error: asm/bitops.h: No 
such file or directory
In file included from /usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/preempt.h:9,
 from /usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/spinlock.h:49,
 from /usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/module.h:9,
 from simple_module.c:2:
/usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/thread_info.h:21:29: error: 
asm/thread_info.h: No such file or directory
In file included from /usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/preempt.h:10,
 from /usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/spinlock.h:49,
 from /usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/module.h:9,
 from simple_module.c:2:
/usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/linkage.h:4:25: error: asm/linkage.h: 
No such file or directory
In file included from /usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/module.h:9,
 from simple_module.c:2:
/usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/spinlock.h:57:24: error: asm/system.h: 
No such file or directory
In file included from /usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/module.h:9,
 from simple_module.c:2:
/usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/spinlock.h:290: error: expected 
declaration specifiers or ‘...’ before ‘bool’
/usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/spinlock.h: In function 
‘double_spin_lock’:
/usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/spinlock.h:294: error: ‘l1_first’ 
undeclared (first use in this function)
/usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/spinlock.h:294: error: (Each 
undeclared identifier is reported only once
/usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/spinlock.h:294: error: for each 
function it appears in.)
/usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/spinlock.h: At top level:
/usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/spinlock.h:309: error: expected 
declaration specifiers or ‘...’ before ‘bool’
/usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/spinlock.h: In function 
‘double_spin_unlock’:
/usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/spinlock.h:313: error: 
‘l1_taken_first’ undeclared (first use in this function)
/usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/spinlock.h:326:24: error: 
asm/atomic.h: No such file or directory
/usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/spinlock.h: At top level:
/usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/spinlock.h:332: error: expected ‘)’ 
before ‘*’ token
In file included from /usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/module.h:10,
 from simple_module.c:2:
/usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/list.h:970:2: warning: #warning don't 
include kernel headers in userspace
In file included from /usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/module.h:13,
 from simple_module.c:2:
/usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/cache.h:5:23: error: asm/cache.h: No 
such file or directory
In file included from simple_module.c:2:
/usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/module.h:19:23: error: asm/local.h: No 
such file or directory
/usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/module.h:21:24: error: asm/module.h: 
No such file or directory
In file included from simple_module.c:2:
/usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/module.h:48: error: field ‘attr’ has 
incomplete type
/usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/module.h:49: error: expected 
specifier-qualifier-list before ‘ssize_t’
/usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/module.h:59: error: field ‘kobj’ has 
incomplete type
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Any suggestion?
Many thanks,

Fernando


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Re: [opensuse] like acobat reader

2008-01-10 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Thursday 2008-01-10 at 18:25 -0700, Don Raboud wrote:


PDF files can have internal macros to make this happen.  I have heard
of at least one company that has implemented the logic.


Had to rescue the page for the occasion, sorry for the
currently unavailable links to helping.net.
http://justwars.com/linux/Adobe-Acrobat-Spying-on-Users.html


Among the options one can set in Acrobat reader is to specify a proxy which I
usually set to 127.0.0.1 to avoid things like this.  (I am not paranoid, just
don't like the very idea.)  Of course, being closed source one has no idea if
acrobat reader honors these settings or not.


I read about a trick to block in the firewall packets originating from a 
program running with a certain GID:



] Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:52:27 +0200
] From: nordi
] To: suse-security@
] Subject: Re: [suse-security] How to block Acroread 7 with SuSE FW2?
]
] In order to block that traffic you could make the acroread executable
] SGID 'acro' and then block all traffic coming from group 'acro'.
] Iptables has an option for doing this by using the --gid-owner option.
] Of course that works only with a local firewall.



] Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:56:26 +0200
] From: nordi
] To: suse-security@
] Subject: Re: [suse-security] How to block Acroread 7 with SuSE FW2?
]
] Carl A. Schreiber wrote:
]  I'd like to learn more about this, would you mind to give an example 
]  for such a rule?

]
] I did it with the following rule:
] iptables -A OUTPUT -m owner --gid-owner talker -j REJECT
]
] Then I set /usr/bin/netcat to be owned by group 'talker' and to mode 
] 2755 (SGID). After that I could not connect anywhere with netcat. Once I 
] chmodded netcat back to 755 it worked again.



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Re: [opensuse] Adobe Acrobat Spying on Users (was: like acobat reader

2008-01-10 Thread Anders Johansson
On Friday 11 January 2008 03:12:46 Philippe Landau wrote:
 Anders Johansson wrote:
  On Friday 11 January 2008 02:25:57 Don Raboud wrote:
  Among the options one can set in Acrobat reader is to specify a proxy
  which I usually set to 127.0.0.1 to avoid things like this.  (I am not
  paranoid, just don't like the very idea.)  Of course, being closed
  source one has no idea if acrobat reader honors these settings or not.
 
  Sure one has. Just use wireshark to see what it does. It can't bypass
  that. No need to sit around guessing, or tell scary stories
 
  I have a hunch lots of people already have done that though, and if it
  did bad things, we would have heard about it by now, a lot louder than
  vague rumours on mailing lists

 No need to insult if you follow the provided link there (see below)

I'm sorry, but where in that link do they discuss whether acrobat reader 
honours proxy settings?

 or do some online research on your own confirming what is
 now known since over two years.
 If you don't find good additional resources and don't speak German,
 why not ask for help ?

I do speak German (I live in Germany) and I can read. In that page, it says 
acrobat reader honours web links. This is *very* far removed from calling 
home

 A little less hostility amongst list members would be appreciated.
 You might be so much smarter and better, no need to diminish others.

I don't see how suggesting to use wireshark was either insulting, hostile or 
diminishing. I see lots of talk, and lots of googling, but no one actually 
looks

Anders

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[opensuse] Adobe Acrobat Spying on Users (was: like acobat reader

2008-01-10 Thread Philippe Landau
Anders Johansson wrote:
 On Friday 11 January 2008 02:25:57 Don Raboud wrote:
 Among the options one can set in Acrobat reader is to specify a proxy which
 I usually set to 127.0.0.1 to avoid things like this.  (I am not paranoid,
 just don't like the very idea.)  Of course, being closed source one has no
 idea if acrobat reader honors these settings or not.
 
 Sure one has. Just use wireshark to see what it does. It can't bypass that. 
 No 
 need to sit around guessing, or tell scary stories
 
 I have a hunch lots of people already have done that though, and if it did 
 bad 
 things, we would have heard about it by now, a lot louder than vague rumours 
 on mailing lists
No need to insult if you follow the provided link there (see below)
or do some online research on your own confirming what is
now known since over two years.
If you don't find good additional resources and don't speak German,
why not ask for help ?
A little less hostility amongst list members would be appreciated.
You might be so much smarter and better, no need to diminish others.

Kind regards Philippe

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On Thursday 10 January 2008 17:02, Philippe Landau wrote:
 evince is probably safer:
  Adobe applications are notorious for phoning home,
  telling Adobe what you do when,
  and Adobe is a known bully of the copyright mafia.
  Additionally, Adobe software tells the authors of
  some pdf files when you open/read their documents.
  Have any sources for it?
 
  I knew Adobe was calling home, but that a person can request a 
  notification
  was new to me... (or do you just mean the possibility?)
 
  
  PDF files can have internal macros to make this happen.  I have heard
  of at least one company that has implemented the logic.
 
 Had to rescue the page for the occasion, sorry for the
 currently unavailable links to helping.net.
 http://justwars.com/linux/Adobe-Acrobat-Spying-on-Users.html
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Re: [opensuse] like acobat reader

2008-01-10 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Thursday 2008-01-10 at 14:50 -0800, Ben Kevan wrote:


evince is probably safer:
Adobe applications are notorious for phoning home,
telling Adobe what you do when,
and Adobe is a known bully of the copyright mafia.
Additionally, Adobe software tells the authors of
some pdf files when you open/read their documents.

Kind regards Philippe


I thought that was actually in CS and put in by a 3rd party tracking company?


Yep. Adobe simply allows code in the document, and code can do many 
things, good and bad. It's up to the document writer to use those 
capacities.


It is not much different from viewing an html document with images 
downloaded from the web: anytime you view the document downloading the 
image, the server knows you are reading it. If you apply it to email, it 
can act as the recipient has displayed your email in his computer 
receipt. If you use a 1 byte image with name different for each targeted 
recipient, the sender can learn which of those email addresses he sent to 
are active and worthy of sending more spam.


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Re: [opensuse] like acobat reader

2008-01-10 Thread Philippe Landau
Carlos E. R. wrote:
 The Thursday 2008-01-10 at 14:50 -0800, Ben Kevan wrote:
 evince is probably safer:
 Adobe applications are notorious for phoning home,
 telling Adobe what you do when,
 and Adobe is a known bully of the copyright mafia.
 Additionally, Adobe software tells the authors of
 some pdf files when you open/read their documents.
 I thought that was actually in CS and put in by a 3rd party tracking
 company?
 
 Yep. Adobe simply allows code in the document, and code can do many
 things, good and bad. It's up to the document writer to use those
 capacities.
 
 It is not much different from viewing an html document with images
 downloaded from the web: anytime you view the document downloading the
 image, the server knows you are reading it. If you apply it to email, it
 can act as the recipient has displayed your email in his computer
 receipt. If you use a 1 byte image with name different for each targeted
 recipient, the sender can learn which of those email addresses he sent
 to are active and worthy of sending more spam.
Right.
They call those remotely loading images web bugs and Thunderbird for
example blocks them by default. For browsing there are a host of tools
widely used to stop this kind of snooping on individual's behaviour.

Thanks also Anders for the conciliatory note.

Kind regards Philippe
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Re: [opensuse] Installing wink to capture streaming video

2008-01-10 Thread Joe Sloan
Philippe Landau wrote:
 Joe Sloan wrote:
 Philippe Landau wrote:
 http://software.opensuse.org/search?p=1baseproject=ALLq=wink
 1-click install first lets me subscribe to a repository
 that i already am subscribed to, then reports:
 Software installation
 Installation was only partially successful.
 The following packages could not be installed
 wink
 Manual Package Download gives: Open with Install Software
 seems to install it but then just quits without report.

 Downloading wink from
 http://www.debugmode.com/wink/download.php
 extract all, open wink15.tar-1, running install.sh,
 then placing wink into /usr/bin, run wink from there
 gets an error message about a library.

 Maybe I'm missing something, but why didn't you just say something like,
 say, zypper install wink? Or, if you prefer the GUI approach, go to
 yast-software management, search for wink and then click the
 appropriate check box to install?
 
 Because yast did not find wink that way.

Ah, so you haven't set up your repos, that's the only problem. If you
take a minute and add the opensuse repos to yast, you'll see wink and
lots of other cool packages, all ready to go.

This page describes the adding of installation sources to yast:

http://en.opensuse.org/Package_Repositories

Joe



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[opensuse] Flac to mp3

2008-01-10 Thread clarge
Is there a program to do the above? And if so what is it?

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Re: [opensuse] Adobe Acrobat Spying on Users (was: like acobat reader

2008-01-10 Thread Anders Johansson
On Friday 11 January 2008 03:12:46 Philippe Landau wrote:
 Anders Johansson wrote:
  On Friday 11 January 2008 02:25:57 Don Raboud wrote:
  Among the options one can set in Acrobat reader is to specify a proxy
  which I usually set to 127.0.0.1 to avoid things like this.  (I am not
  paranoid, just don't like the very idea.)  Of course, being closed
  source one has no idea if acrobat reader honors these settings or not.
 
  Sure one has. Just use wireshark to see what it does. It can't bypass
  that. No need to sit around guessing, or tell scary stories
 
  I have a hunch lots of people already have done that though, and if it
  did bad things, we would have heard about it by now, a lot louder than
  vague rumours on mailing lists

 No need to insult if you follow the provided link there (see below)
 or do some online research on your own confirming what is
 now known since over two years.

By the way, I just discovered that since late 2005, Adobe actually disabled 
this feature (the feature in question was that acroread let javascript 
silently download URLs in the background without telling the user- that was 
how the notification worked)

If a PDF today tries to access a URL, acroread will tell the user about it and 
give him a chance to prevent it. I guess they responded to the articles - and 
I guess that's why all the articles about this are over two years old (not 
counting all the blogs that only quote those old articles)

So I think this problem is gone from acroread, but again: to make sure, use 
wireshark to determine what the program actually does on the network

And if anyone does discover something happening that should be happening, file 
a security bug about it. These things are taken seriously

Anders

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Re: [opensuse] Adobe Acrobat Spying on Users (was: like acobat reader

2008-01-10 Thread Anders Johansson
On Friday 11 January 2008 03:50:56 Anders Johansson wrote:
 And if anyone does discover something happening that should be happening,

argh! That should obviously read ...that should *not* be happening

 file a security bug about it. These things are taken seriously
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Re: [opensuse] like acobat reader

2008-01-10 Thread PerfectReign
On Thu, January 10, 2008 1:40 pm, peter wrote:
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 Ugo De Marinis(191) schrieb:

 | can someone help me to find an editor like acrobat reader in linux
 suse 10.2
 | 0r 10.3?


Acrobat reader is not an editor. Do you mean, like Acrobat
Professional, which allows you to create PDF and interactive PDF form
fields?

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Re: [opensuse] writing a module

2008-01-10 Thread Rajko M.
On Thursday 10 January 2008 07:06:46 pm Fernando Benedictti wrote:
 Hellow there,

 I'm trying to write a module, in my source i've added the following line

   #include linux/module.h

 Since the preprocessor did not found it, i set the variable

  C_INCLUDE_PATH=/usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include

 When i try to compile the source, the preprocessor tell me the following

...
 In file included from
 /usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/thread_info.h:20, from
 /usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/preempt.h:9, from
 /usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/spinlock.h:49, from
 /usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/module.h:9, from
 simple_module.c:2:
 /usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include/linux/bitops.h:9:24: error:
 asm/bitops.h: No such file or directory 

There is number of 'asm-architecture' directories, but no 'asm' alone, so it 
seems that you have forgotten to define architecture. 


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Re: [opensuse] Flac to mp3

2008-01-10 Thread PerfectReign
On Thu, January 10, 2008 6:53 pm, clarge wrote:
 Is there a program to do the above? And if so what is it?

Yeah, Flac.

I think they even have a Canadian translation, eh.  :P

Something like this on the command line will copy a group of .flac
files and create .mp3 files


for file in *.flac; do $(flac -cd $file | lame -h -
YOURLOCATION/${file%.flac}.mp3); done


I copied it from another site.  You will need the flac codec and the
lame encoder.

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Re: [opensuse] Flac to mp3

2008-01-10 Thread Jason Craig
clarge wrote:
 Is there a program to do the above? And if so what is it?

   

$ ffmpeg -i foo.flac -acodec mp3 -ar 192k foo.mp3

should do this, but I tried and failed to find out how to maintain the
tags from the FLAC and use them as the MP3's ID3 tags.

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Re: [opensuse] Flac to mp3

2008-01-10 Thread Carl Hartung
On Thu January 10 2008 10:49:27 pm Jason Craig wrote:
 clarge wrote:
  Is there a program to do the above? And if so what is it?

 $ ffmpeg -i foo.flac -acodec mp3 -ar 192k foo.mp3

 should do this, but I tried and failed to find out how to maintain the
 tags from the FLAC and use them as the MP3's ID3 tags.

 --Jason

This solution appears to address converting the tags, too.

Flac to Mp3 Simplified for Linux.
http://www.sklav.com/?q=node/4

*Disclaimer: This is a Google search result that I've reviewed and it looks 
good, but I won't get around to testing it until later on = caveat emptor!

good luck  regards,

Carl

p.s. feedback would be great if it works for you... even with any 'fixes'. 
Thanks!
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Re: [opensuse] Connecting to serial port (to be console) of 2nd suse box

2008-01-10 Thread Tom Patton
Sorry, Linda, sent this straight to you in error...
Tom

On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 19:16 -0700, Tom Patton wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 17:22 -0800, Linda Walsh wrote:
  Peter Bloomfield suggested minicom (thanks) and Tom Patton wrote:
   On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 12:46 -0800, Linda Walsh wrote:
   I have 3 machines in this setup.  The setup being:
   ---
 ahh...screen or minicom I can probably find documentation
  on...but the lessons for lizard thing's got me stumped.  :-)
  
 Sorry, Linda, it is (I think) in the books section under documentation
 on the 10.3 dvd.  
 
 Here's an excerpt:
 
 Procedure
  This How-To uses standard GNU/Linux commands, therefore it is not
 specific to openSUSE. 
  Make sure you have screen installed, with: 
 rpm -q screen
  If not, install it. Fortunately it is included on openSUSE CDs and
 DVD. 
  The command are very simple: (you must be logged in as root) 
 # screen /dev/ttyS0
  or access any other COM port by changing the last digit (0...7). 
  To exit screen use: “ctrl+a”, then “ctrl+\”, “y”. 
 
 This was written by;
 How-To Access COM Port (RS-232 client/server)
 Alexey Eremenko Technologov
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 There is also a section on the method to set up grub to ship the
 start-up messages out the tty port.  
 
 I used to do something similar, in that I had a headless old pc as a
 modem gateway for the home network, and the only way to recover a boot
 failure was via the reset button and a tty to see what was happening.
 
 One other thing, if the bios supports Kiosk mode, you don't need a
 mouse or kboard, either.  I think most modern pc's will roll over that
 anyway, but they used to hang forever without a keyboard.
 
 Tom
 

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[opensuse] BUG - in spamassassin sa-learn causing Kernel Errors

2008-01-10 Thread David C. Rankin
Listmates,

I don't know whether this is a openSuSE bug or an Apache bug with
spamassassin. Spamassassin's sa-learn is doing something that causes
kernel errors. Take a look and let me know if I should file it with
Novell or Apache. I would normally think it would just be Apache, but if
it is getting to the kernel, Novell may be the right place. Here is the log:


Jan 10 13:00:01 bonza /usr/sbin/cron[9906]: (drr) CMD
(/usr/local/bin/Learn_as_spam_cron)
Jan 10 13:00:01 bonza /usr/sbin/cron[9909]: (davidg) CMD
(/usr/local/bin/Learn_as_spam_cron)
Jan 10 13:00:02 bonza /usr/sbin/cron[9911]: (david) CMD
(/home/david/linux/scripts/Learn_as_spam_cron)
Jan 10 13:00:02 bonza imapd[9931]: PAM audit_log_acct_message() failed:
Operation not permitted
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel: BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer
dereference at virtual address 0044
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel:  printing eip:
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel: c02c5027
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel: *pde = 
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel: Oops: 0002 [#2]
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel: SMP
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel: last sysfs file:
/class/input/input4/event4/dev
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel: Modules linked in: joydev st ide_disk
ide_cd ide_core af_packet iptable_filter ip
_tables ip6_tables x_tables apparmor loop 8139cp 8139too mii button
sr_mod i2c_nforce2 shpchp nvidia_agp cdrom
rtc_cmos rtc_core rtc_lib pci_hotplug agpgart i2c_core sg dm_mirror
dm_log ehci_hcd sd_mod ohci_hcd usbcore dm_
snapshot dm_mod edd ext3 mbcache jbd fan sata_nv pata_amd libata
scsi_mod thermal processor
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel: CPU:0
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel: EIP:0060:[c02c5027]Tainted: G
   N VLI
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel: EFLAGS: 00210286   (2.6.22.13-0.3-default #1)
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel: EIP is at _spin_lock+0x1/0xf
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel: eax: 0044   ebx: d4cdf978   ecx:
d4cdf888   edx: 0001
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel: esi:    edi: 004e   ebp:
d4cdf930   esp: d940dd84
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel: ds: 007b   es: 007b   fs: 00d8  gs: 0033
ss: 0068
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel: Process sa-learn (pid: 10213, ti=d940c000
task=ce19bab0 task.ti=d940c000)
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel: Stack: c018de77 c1990b40 c1990b60 c1990b80
c1990ba0 c1990bc0 d4cdf978 d4cdf888
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel: 004e 004e c0180a14
0080 d4cdfa7c e23cdabc 00019ed8
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel:dfffeaa0 0096 000280d2 c015add0
4950 24a8  00cf6c00
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel: Call Trace:
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel:  [c018de77] remove_inode_buffers+0x3b/0xc8
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel:  [c0180a14] shrink_icache_memory+0xc5/0x1b6
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel:  [c015add0] shrink_slab+0xde/0x13b
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel:  [c015b6b8] try_to_free_pages+0x173/0x247
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel:  [c015731a] __alloc_pages+0x1a1/0x2d6
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel:  [c0162361]
find_mergeable_anon_vma+0x5e/0xb2
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel:  [c015f61a] __handle_mm_fault+0x482/0xa83
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel:  [c011c854] kunmap_atomic+0x54/0x7c
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel:  [c011c860] kunmap_atomic+0x60/0x7c
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel:  [c0137c62] getnstimeofday+0x30/0xbe
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel:  [c0161668] vma_adjust+0x1ca/0x360
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel:  [c02c67ca] do_page_fault+0x26c/0x5a6
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel:  [c02c655e] do_page_fault+0x0/0x5a6
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel:  [c02c5362] error_code+0x72/0x80
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel:  ===
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel: Code: 05 90 ff 00 30 d2 89 d0 c3 89 c2 90
81 28 00 00 00 01 0f 94 c0 84 c0 b9 01
00 00 00 75 09 90 81 02 00 00 00 01 30 c9 89 c8 c3 90 fe 08 79 09 f3
90 80 38 00 7e f9 eb f2 c3 90 81 28 00 0
0 00 01
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel: EIP: [c02c5027] _spin_lock+0x1/0xf
SS:ESP 0068:d940dd84


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Re: [opensuse] writing a module

2008-01-10 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 11:06:46PM -0200, Fernando Benedictti wrote:
 Hellow there,
 
 I'm trying to write a module, in my source i've added the following line
 
   #include linux/module.h
 
 Since the preprocessor did not found it, i set the variable 
 
  C_INCLUDE_PATH=/usr/src/linux-2.6.22.5-31/include
 
 When i try to compile the source, the preprocessor tell me the following


Try reading the documentation on how to make a kernel module makefile in
the Documentation/kbuild/ directory in the kernel tree.  You do not need
to define something like this, the kernel build system does it all for
you.

Also, try reading the first few chapters of Linux Device Drivers, third
edition, free online, which explains how to do this also.

The best place to ask these kinds of questions is on the kernelnewbies
mailing list.  Also look at the documentation at kernelnewbies.org on
how to do this, it should help explain it too.

good luck,

greg k-h
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[opensuse] openSUSE_10.3 vs openSUSE_Factory

2008-01-10 Thread Scott Newton
If I want to install KDE4 on openSUSE 10.3 should I be using 
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4/openSUSE_10.3
or 
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4/openSUSE_Factory ?

At the moment they seem to have exactly the same packages in them. What would 
normally be the difference?

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Re: [opensuse] YAST2 not displaying package descriptions

2008-01-10 Thread Dave Plater
Timothy Cahill wrote:
 On January 9, 2008, Dave Plater wrote:
   
 Rajko M. wrote:
 
 On Tuesday 08 January 2008 02:33:39 pm Timothy Cahill wrote:
   
 installed from the live version. One annoyance is that I cannot see rpm
 package descriptions for most of the rpms that came with the DVD. When I
 browse the DVD using Konqueror, I can see that the descriptions are
 there, but in YAST2 the description tab is blank of all information
 

   
 I used to have that problem when I had an rpm only directory for my
 local repository (still wishing for a yast that saves rpms ) . It came
 right when I used createrepo to index the repository. The descriptions
 you see are contained in the rpm itself and createrepo places them in a
 gz compressed xml file in the repository. This is what takes a lot of
 time to download when a large repository refreshes.
 

 Following your suggestion, I'm considering copying the DVD to harddisk, then 
 running createrepo against the HD version. 
 Too bad the live DVD ships with this problem. Doubly unfortunate that the 
 SuSE 
 team's policy is to leave flawed/broken distributions as is. It seems that 
 this could be an easy thing to fix as a 10.3.01 release. While they were at 
 it they could fix the broken link in YAST2's add community repositories 
 application.

   
  KPackage, kde's package manager reads the description straight from the
 rpm. I don,t know what smart does, I've never got it to work properly.
 Dave
 

 I'm now using SMART as my software manager, and it is working perfectly. From 
 these directions 
 http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/suse-linux-help/108589-howto-install-use-smart-opensuse-10-3-a.html

 I did:
 # zypper sa -r 
 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/smart/openSUSE_10.3/smart.repo
 # zypper ref smart
 # zypper install smart
 #  smart channel --add 
 http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/files/smart/opensuse-10.3.txt

 AFter this, I run smart from the KDE menu System -- configuration

 Initially, the repositories (called channels by SMART) must be updated, and 
 then I can download any new software or updates. The two most excellent 
 things about smart are 1) if a download times out, you can just Apply the 
 marked changes again, and smart only downloads the items that were not 
 successful the last time. because 2) smart keeps local copies of everything 
 it downloads. 

 Let me know if you'd like further assistance. 




   
My problem with smart is, it complains about keys for quite a few
packages in my local repo and I have to press enter for each complaint.
I tried entering a few keyservers and downloading every pgp key I found
in the online repositories, after reading smart's online help, but still
no luck. It's the keeping a copy after install feature I like, at the
moment I use yast to find program and dependents, download rpms and then
restart yast to install from local repo. I only update the main
repositories when I need to search for a newer version or something.
Dave
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Re: [opensuse] kde and the kate editor

2008-01-10 Thread David C. Rankin
Jonas Helgi Palsson wrote:
 Hi
 
 On Tuesday 08 January 2008 19:45:05 Wendell Nichols wrote:
 Kate drives me nuts.  Its a good editor but every time you right click
 to edit a file in konqueror using kate it starts a new window.  If I use
 a command window and specify --use it will reuse an existing window if
 one is started for the session I specify.  However because kdeinit
 starts it I cannot pass a parm through konqueror.
 So I get 30 kate windows on my desktop when all I want is one.  Ideally
 I'd like kate to open the file I've chosen in the instance of kate which
 is already open ON THAT DESKTOP.

 Has anyone figured this out?
 Sorry if this is an inappropriate forum... well not all that sorry
 wcn
 
 
 Now the simple answer is (of course) DCOP!
 
 But how to make it work was not so easy :-)
 
 What you need to do is 
 1. Keep track of which virtual desktop you are on
 2. Keep track of which Kate process is on which virtual desktop
 3. Use DCOP to instruct (the correct) Kate to open the selected file.
 
 
 Here is a way to do it (with some quick'n'ugly scripts):
 
 First make a directory to keep some tempfiles
 
 mkdir ~/.kate_pid
 
 then we make 2 bash scripts, put them in your ~/bin/ or where ever you fancy.
 
 1: start_kate.sh
 cut here---
 #!/bin/bash
 # Get current virtual desktop
 VIRT_DESKTOP=$(dcop kwin KWinInterface currentDesktop)
 #Now we start kate with all the arguments that we recived
 kate $@
 echo -n $!  ~/.kate_pid/kate_pid.$VIRT_DESKTOP
 exit 0;
 cut here---
 2: kate_open_file.sh
 cut here---
 #!/bin/bash
 # The encoding used, utf8 is the usual one
 ENCODING=utf8
 # We need to find out which virtual destop we are on
 VIRT_DESKTOP=$(dcop kwin KWinInterface currentDesktop)
 # We need to see if there is a pid file for that desktop
 if [ -f ~/.kate_pid/kate_pid.$VIRT_DESKTOP ] ; then
 #Yes there was, now we need to check if the kate process
 #belonging to that pid is still alive
 #First find the pid
 KATE_PID=$(cat ~/.kate_pid/kate_pid.$VIRT_DESKTOP)
 if [ $(dcop kate-$KATE_PID /dev/null 21; echo $?) -gt 0 ] ; then
 #No it is not, so we start it
 kate $@
 # and record the pid for reuse
 echo -n $!  ~/.kate_pid/kate_pid.$VIRT_DESKTOP
 else
 # now some DCOP magic
 dcop kate-$KATE_PID KateApplication openURL $1 $ENCODING
 fi
 else
 #there was no kate_pid file so we start kate.
 kate $@
 # and record the pid for reuse
 echo -n $!  ~/.kate_pid/kate_pid.$VIRT_DESKTOP
 fi
 cut here---
 
 Use the start_kate.sh wrapper to start Kate on a virtual desktop. (Not really 
 needed)
 
 Then make a new action in Konqueror to open files, and have it run:
 /the/path/to/the/script/kate_open_file.sh %U
 
 That should do it :-)
 
 Notice that there is no error checking at all in the scripts, so if you use 
 it, please make it better and post the result :-)
 
 regards
 Jonas

It looks like the source of the problem was this change in the code:

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Modified Wed Jan 18 16:49:04 2006 UTC (23 months, 3 weeks ago) by alund
File length: 10186 byte(s)
Diff to previous 498190

* Kate will export the PID of the instance in the environment variable
KATE_PID. You can use that to do some initialization in your ~/.bashrc
file for example, if you like to open files in kate from the built in
terminal:

# If we are running in a konsole in kate,
# $KATE_PID is the pid of that kate application instance.
if [ -n $KATE_PID ] ; then
  # open files in this instance
  alias kate=kate -u -p $KATE_PID
  # allow creating a new instance
  alias kate_newinst=`which kate`
fi

The discussion continues and recognizes the difficulty in getting the
old behavior back.

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Modified Sun Jan 8 09:02:09 2006 UTC (2 years ago) by alund
File length: 9921 byte(s)
Diff to previous 465343

Always follow the configuration option for chosing a session  when none
is specified.
I commit this, since I can't see how else we can enable old style
behavior easily. The 'new' behavior can be achieved by keeping the
default configuration of starting a new session.
BUG: 119620


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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE 10.3 couldn't shutdown

2008-01-10 Thread David C. Rankin
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 On Wednesday 09 January 2008 11:24:06 am Greg KH wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 03:13:19PM -0600, David C. Rankin wrote:
 Andy Clus wrote:
  Hi,
   I've been using openSUSE 10.3 for few months and have no problems
 with it. But recently, the shutdown feature is disabled by some unknown
 reasons. I use GNOME, when I select Computer - Shutdown, the Shutdown
 and Restart options are disabled, and I can only choose Sleep or
 Hibernate. So when I want to turn off the computer, I have to either
 use shutdown -h 0 or logout first, then choose Shutdown from the
 Login screen, which is very inconvenient.
  Has anyone have the same problem? Could you please show me how to fix
 it?

  Thanks,

 Andy
 Nightmare issue:

 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=331747

 All of my hand built boxes shut down just fine. All of my Dell built
 boxes hang...
 Yeah, this problem is a huge pain, I still can't reproduce the issue
 myself so as to make it easier to try to track down.  But I'm going to
 go through my closet of old hardware next week to try to find something
 that breaks...

 ugh, no fun.

 greg k-h
 
 Bug 331747 is listed as an x-86 bug. i know next to nothing about bugzilla. 
 Is 
 there a listing for an x-86-64 bug in a duo core system? the mobo is an abit 
 F-190hd and I *do* have the problem.

The bug seems to be getting worse after the latest updates. Has anyone
else notice this behavior. I have boxes that had always shutdown fine
that are now hanging after unloading swap during the shutdown process.


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[opensuse] Re: [opensuse-offtopic] Majority of new PCs ship without Windows Vista, Gates (unintentionally)

2008-01-10 Thread Aaron Kulkis

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Anders Johansson schreef:

On Thursday 10 January 2008 11:21:53 M9. wrote:

Aaron Kulkis schreef:

 Very telling.

http://www.itnews.com.au/News/67663,majority-of-new-pcs-ship-without-win
dows-vista-gates-unintentionally-reveals.aspx

Indeed.

It allready began to ran bad with the longhorn debacle, and other 64bit
versions...
Apart from Millennium, based upon NT, which is stable, small and thus
Windows Millennium Edition was not based on NT, it was basically a version of 
win98. I can believe it was small, but it was anything but stable


Anders



On a laptop it was very fast and very stable.


In the 8 years since it's release, you are the
FIRST person to contradict the many MANY complaints
that WindowsME was far less stable than not only
Windows98, but even Windows 3.1.


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[opensuse-packaging] openSUSE 11.0 - call for package updates

2008-01-10 Thread Marcus Meissner
Hi folks (SUSE packagers),

openSUSE 11.0 Beta1 is coming closer and now is a good time
to do version updates for your packages.

The following is a database dump/compare from the freshmeat/sf/gnome/kde
scrapers I run.

Always take the result with grain of salt, upgrade is still at your
discretion.

Ciao, Marcus

abockover   brasero 0.6.90 0.7.0
adrian  ntfsprogs   1.13.1 2.0.0
ak  numactl 1.0.1  1.0.2
anicka  bacula  2.2.6  2.2.7
anicka  cfengine2.2.2  2.2.3
anicka  mediawiki   1.10.0 1.10.1
anosek  chemtool1.6.10 1.6.11
anosek  gd  2.0.35 2.0.36RC1
anosek  gpm 1.20.1 1.20.2-bro
anosek  horde   3.1.4  3.2-RC1
anosek  imp 4.1.4  H3
anosek  pdns2.9.21 1018
bg  lyx 1.5.1  1.5.3
bk  alpine  0. 1.0
bk  gtk-vnc 0.2.0  0.3.2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jaxen   1.0_FCS1.1.1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jedit   4.24.3pre7
[EMAIL PROTECTED] saxon   8.89.0.0.2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] xom 1.0_FCS1.2b1
bwalle  biosdevname 0.2.3  0.2.4
cgaisford   xchat-gnome 0.16   0.18
cgriffinxen-tools   3.2.0_1664 3.8
cthiel  mplayerplug-in  3.45   v3.50
cthiel  offlineimap 4.0.16 5.99.3
cthiel  streamripper1.62.2 1.63-beta-
daniel.rahn gurlchecker 0.10.1 0.10.2+%28
dkukawkaxournal 0.3.3  0.4.1
draht   tpm-tools  1.3.1
duwegrub0.97   1.95
duwesquashfs3.2squashfs3.
erik.hamera ltp 20070930   20071231
erik.hamera memtester   4.0.5  4.0.8
freitag gocr0.41   0.43
freitag taskjuggler 2.4.0  2.4.0_beta
frohaegis   4.16   4.22.2
frohcook2.25   2.30
garloff ddrescue1.14_0.0.6 1.7-pre2
garloff x11vnc  0.9.2  0.9.3
gnome-maintainers   anjuta  2.2.2  2.3.1
gnome-maintainers   aqbanking   2.2.9  3.0.1
gnome-maintainers   cairomm 1.2.2  1.4.2
gnome-maintainers   evince  2.20.0 2.20.2
gnome-maintainers   fyre1.0.0  1.0.1
gnome-maintainers   gcalctool   5.20.0 5.21.1
gnome-maintainers   gedit   2.20.0 gedit+2.20
gnome-maintainers   gimp2.4.0  2.4.3
gnome-maintainers   glib1.2.10 2.15.0
gnome-maintainers   gnomeicu0.99.100.99.14
gnome-maintainers   gnucash 2.2.0  2.2.2
gnome-maintainers   gnumeric1.7.11 1.7.91
gnome-maintainers   gobby   0.4.4  0.4.5
gnome-maintainers   goffice 0.4.2  0.5.4
gnome-maintainers   gqview  2.1.1  2.1.5
gnome-maintainers   gwenhywfar  2.6.2  3.0.1
gnome-maintainers   inkscape0.45.1 initial re
gnome-maintainers   libgda  3.1.1  3.1.2
gnome-maintainers   libgnomedb  3.1.1  3.1.2
gnome-maintainers   libiptcdata 0.2.1  1.0.2
gnome-maintainers   libnjb  2.2.5  2.2.6
gnome-maintainers   libofx  0.8.2  0.9.0
gnome-maintainers   liboil  0.3.9  0.3.12
gnome-maintainers   libsoup 2.2.1002.2.101
gnome-maintainers   libxklavier 3.23.3
gnome-maintainers   nautilus-open-t 0.70.8+%22Ali
gnome-maintainers   nss-mdns0.90.10
gnome-maintainers   poppler 0.6.1  0.6.3
harescsirastools1.4.10 1.5.6
hmacht  splashy 0.3.5  0.3.8
hvogel  gtkpod  0.99.100.99.12
hvogel  kio_ipodslave   0.8.pre1   ipodslave-
hvogel  openbox 3.4.2  3.4.5
hvogel  rlwrap  0.28   0.30
hvogel  rpmrebuild  2.2.0  2.2.0-1
hvogel  wvdial  1.56   1.60
hvogel  wvstreams   4.2.2  4.4.1
JCALCOTEopenxdas0.4.2260.5.257
JJolly  ntfs-3g 1.913  1.1120
jmatejekepydoc  2.13.0 beta
jmatejekpybliographer   1.2.10 1.3.4
jmatejekpython-pyx  0.90.10
jsmeix  hplip   2.7.10 2.7.12
jsmeix  

[opensuse-packaging] 64bit problem with package cgicc-3.2.3 in openSUSE10.3

2008-01-10 Thread David Saint
Hi,

I'm new to openSUSE development and I have a question about how to get a
package updated in a
distribution of openSUSE. Currently openSUSE10.3 includes package
cgicc-3.2.3, but there's a 
known bug in that version of cgicc that impacts execution in a 64-bit
environment. This bug is 
fixed in cgicc-3.2.4 (and I've tested the fix on openSUSE10.3) so I
would like that 
package updated in the official distribution, but I don't know who to
ask to get this done. 
The RPMs I built were named:

cgicc-3.2.4-3.x86_64.rpm
cgicc-devel-3.2.4-3.x86_64.rpm

I found the list of issues fixed in cgicc-3.2.4 at:
 
http://fresh.t-systems-sfr.com/unix/www/cgicc-3.2.4.tar.gz:a/cgicc-3.2.4
/NEWS

Thanks...
Dave.
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