Re: [opensuse-factory] beagle

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Please update vpnc

2008-01-18 Thread Lars Müller
On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 07:23:03AM +0100, Joerg Mayer wrote:
 
 OK, I found one thing: As openSUSE contains GPL packets that link
 against openssl (e.g. Wireshark), please enable hybrid support in
 the Makefile:

Currently there is no BuildRequires to the openssl-devel package.
Therefore I consider the OpenSSL license as no risk to the one of vpnc.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Please update vpnc

2008-01-18 Thread Joerg Mayer
On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 10:56:51AM +0100, Lars M?ller wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 07:23:03AM +0100, Joerg Mayer wrote:
  
  OK, I found one thing: As openSUSE contains GPL packets that link
  against openssl (e.g. Wireshark), please enable hybrid support in
  the Makefile:
 
 Currently there is no BuildRequires to the openssl-devel package.
 Therefore I consider the OpenSSL license as no risk to the one of vpnc.

Yes, but what I'm currently doing is requesting that you change that :-)

 Ciao
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[opensuse-factory] Problems with current factory

2008-01-18 Thread Joerg Mayer
- apache2 crashes on many (trivial) requests
- subversion client can't access archives via ssh and https any more
  (or, to be more precise: all files appear with ! in svn status).

Is any of that known or should I invenstigate further and open bugs?

 Ciao
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[opensuse-factory] USB and udev process

2008-01-18 Thread Donn Washburn

Hey Group;

I am not sure if this is the correct pkace to ask this question.

I have a USB storage camera which works great if enabled at boot time.
Once booted and confirmed it is mounted. ls -l /dev/sdd1 shows 
correctly.  Unmount it and unplug/re plug the USB cable, it the connect 
pc button.  At that point USB finds it hwinfo finds it.

But ls -l /dev/sd* fails to find anything.

/var/log/messages offers information.  If someone can help resolve this 
problem I can email the small file ( 2592 ).


Is there a better place to ask for info?

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[opensuse-factory] runlevel deps on network

2008-01-18 Thread Felix Miata
Traditionally network is reserved for runlevels 3  5. YaST2 runlevel editor
says I can't disable network in 2 without disabling several others in 2:

1-cron - why?
2-cups - not all printers have anything to do with networking
3-smartd - why?
4-syslog - why?
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Problems with current factory

2008-01-18 Thread Felix Möller
Hi,

 download subversion-1.5.0-29.(i586 | x86_64).rpm (yes, it's the same
 build number as your installed package!) and install it with rpm -U
 --force.
 That's _not_ a joke. The package in factory has the same build number as the 
 installed one, so factory update doesn't install the current one. But the 
 date of the build in factory is newer. Guess, buildnumber wasn't incremented 
 as the package was built against glibc 2.7.
thanks alot this does indeed fix the issue.

The new package is:
Name: subversion
Version : 1.5.0
Release : 29
Build Date: So 13 Jan 2008 13:46:48 CET
Build Host: becaut.suse.de

The old package was:
Name: subversion
Version : 1.5.0
Release : 29
Build Date: Fr 11 Jan 2008 01:53:32 CET
Build Host: strauss.suse.de

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Problems with current factory

2008-01-18 Thread Hans-Peter Holler
Am Freitag, 18. Januar 2008 schrieb Stephan Kulow:
 Am Freitag 18 Januar 2008 schrieb Felix M?öller:
  Hi,
 
   - apache2 crashes on many (trivial) requests
   - subversion client can't access archives via ssh and https any more
 (or, to be more precise: all files appear with ! in svn status).
 
  my subversion client segfaults on every svn up or svn co. I did noticed
  it this morning and did not yet have time to report. A week or so ago it
  was working.
download subversion-1.5.0-29.(i586 | x86_64).rpm (yes, it's the same build 
number as your installed package!) and install it with rpm -U --force.
 
  If you report plaese cc: me on the bug.

 Works fine here. I'm doing all my development on factory. So a backtrace
 would be very welcome - in a bug report though.
Fresh install or daily update ?

Greetings
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Re: [opensuse-factory] beagle

2008-01-18 Thread JP Rosevear

On Sat, 2008-01-19 at 00:34 +0100, Igor Jagec wrote:
 On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 14:43 -0600, Hans Petter Jansson wrote:
 
   BTW I've noticed that it indexes fewer file formats than GDS (which is
   one of the reasons why I use GDS), but I'll test it on Factory anyway.
   On my openSUSE 10.3 I'll keep using GDS for now.
  Ok, but I think he meant that GDS indexes fewer file formats than
  Beagle :)
 
 Whoops... :o)
 
 I see it's been a very long time since I've played with Beagle last, and
 now is right time to test it on my Factory installation :)

FYI, 0.3.2 will be available in Factory next week probably.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Problems with current factory

2008-01-18 Thread Joerg Mayer
On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 07:17:15PM +0100, Felix M?ller wrote:
  download subversion-1.5.0-29.(i586 | x86_64).rpm (yes, it's the same
  build number as your installed package!) and install it with rpm -U
  --force.
  That's _not_ a joke. The package in factory has the same build number as 
  the 
  installed one, so factory update doesn't install the current one. But the 
  date of the build in factory is newer. Guess, buildnumber wasn't 
  incremented 
  as the package was built against glibc 2.7.
 thanks alot this does indeed fix the issue.

Mine is solved too. Now I'll only have to look into the apache2 problem.

Thanks!
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Re: [opensuse-factory] beagle

2008-01-18 Thread Igor Jagec
On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 14:43 -0600, Hans Petter Jansson wrote:

  BTW I've noticed that it indexes fewer file formats than GDS (which is
  one of the reasons why I use GDS), but I'll test it on Factory anyway.
  On my openSUSE 10.3 I'll keep using GDS for now.
 Ok, but I think he meant that GDS indexes fewer file formats than
 Beagle :)

Whoops... :o)

I see it's been a very long time since I've played with Beagle last, and
now is right time to test it on my Factory installation :)

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Buffer Overflows

2008-01-18 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 07:56:21PM +0100, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
 Felix Möller wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I noticed that I am encountering a few buffer overflows but I don't see 
 any relevant  reports in bugzilla, so it might be something specific to 
 my system.  Could someone confirm before I enter a bunch of bugs?
 
 The two executables that come to mind, are /usr/bin/dvd+rw-format 
 and  /usr/sbin/bacula-fd but I have seen a few others as well...  This is 
 on x86_64 with latest packages from Factory.
 
 # dvd+rw-format
 *** buffer overflow detected ***: dvd+rw-format terminated
 === Backtrace: =
 I can confirm this on i586.
 
 Please report all these bugs. They are not specific for your system. 
 It's an enhanced feature in the latest glibc to report possible buffer 
 overflows due to bad coding. More packages could be affected and those 
 should be found asap.

Yes, the new thing is that the buffer overflow checking we had for C programs
now is also applied on C++ programs.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Buffer Overflows

2008-01-18 Thread Felix Möller
Hi,

 # dvd+rw-format
 *** buffer overflow detected ***: dvd+rw-format terminated
 === Backtrace: =
 I can confirm this on i586.
 
 Please report all these bugs. They are not specific for your system.
 It's an enhanced feature in the latest glibc to report possible buffer
 overflows due to bad coding. More packages could be affected and those
 should be found asap.

Opened a report at:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=354838

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Problems with current factory

2008-01-18 Thread Stephan Kulow
Am Freitag 18 Januar 2008 schrieb Hans-Peter Holler:
 Am Freitag, 18. Januar 2008 schrieb Stephan Kulow:
  Am Freitag 18 Januar 2008 schrieb Felix M?öller:
   Hi,
  
- apache2 crashes on many (trivial) requests
- subversion client can't access archives via ssh and https any more
  (or, to be more precise: all files appear with ! in svn status).
  
   my subversion client segfaults on every svn up or svn co. I did noticed
   it this morning and did not yet have time to report. A week or so ago
   it was working.

 download subversion-1.5.0-29.(i586 | x86_64).rpm (yes, it's the same build
 number as your installed package!) and install it with rpm -U --force.

   If you report plaese cc: me on the bug.
 
  Works fine here. I'm doing all my development on factory. So a backtrace
  would be very welcome - in a bug report though.

 Fresh install or daily update ?

It was a 10.3 one day

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Problems with current factory

2008-01-18 Thread Stephan Kulow
Am Freitag 18 Januar 2008 schrieb Felix M?öller:
 Hi,

  - apache2 crashes on many (trivial) requests
  - subversion client can't access archives via ssh and https any more
(or, to be more precise: all files appear with ! in svn status).

 my subversion client segfaults on every svn up or svn co. I did noticed
 it this morning and did not yet have time to report. A week or so ago it
 was working.

 If you report plaese cc: me on the bug.

Works fine here. I'm doing all my development on factory. So a backtrace
would be very welcome - in a bug report though.

Greetings, Stephan
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[opensuse-factory] Buffer Overflows

2008-01-18 Thread Warren Stockton
I noticed that I am encountering a few buffer overflows but I don't see any 
relevant  reports in bugzilla, so it might be something specific to my 
system.  Could someone confirm before I enter a bunch of bugs?

The two executables that come to mind, are /usr/bin/dvd+rw-format 
and  /usr/sbin/bacula-fd but I have seen a few others as well...  This is on 
x86_64 with latest packages from Factory.

# dvd+rw-format
*** buffer overflow detected ***: dvd+rw-format terminated
=== Backtrace: =
/lib64/libc.so.6(__fortify_fail+0x37)[0x7f63a99f3397]
/lib64/libc.so.6[0x7f63a99f17a0]
/lib64/libc.so.6[0x7f63a99f21dc]
dvd+rw-format[0x4014fe]
dvd+rw-format[0x4030e5]
/lib64/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xfa)[0x7f63a992b11a]
dvd+rw-format[0x4011c9]
=== Memory map: 
0040-00408000 r-xp  fd:01 
920585 /usr/bin/dvd+rw-format
00607000-00608000 r--p 7000 fd:01 
920585 /usr/bin/dvd+rw-format
00608000-00609000 rw-p 8000 fd:01 
920585 /usr/bin/dvd+rw-format
02257000-02278000 rw-p 02257000 00:00 0  
[heap]
7f63a990d000-7f63a9a5a000 r-xp  fd:01 
1212617/lib64/libc-2.7.so
7f63a9a5a000-7f63a9c5a000 ---p 0014d000 fd:01 
1212617/lib64/libc-2.7.so
7f63a9c5a000-7f63a9c5e000 r--p 0014d000 fd:01 
1212617/lib64/libc-2.7.so
7f63a9c5e000-7f63a9c5f000 rw-p 00151000 fd:01 
1212617/lib64/libc-2.7.so
7f63a9c5f000-7f63a9c64000 rw-p 7f63a9c5f000 00:00 0
7f63a9c64000-7f63a9c7a000 r-xp  fd:01 
1214110/lib64/libgcc_s.so.1
7f63a9c7a000-7f63a9e79000 ---p 00016000 fd:01 
1214110/lib64/libgcc_s.so.1
7f63a9e79000-7f63a9e7a000 r--p 00015000 fd:01 
1214110/lib64/libgcc_s.so.1
7f63a9e7a000-7f63a9e7b000 rw-p 00016000 fd:01 
1214110/lib64/libgcc_s.so.1
7f63a9e7b000-7f63a9ecf000 r-xp  fd:01 
1212684/lib64/libm-2.7.so
7f63a9ecf000-7f63aa0cf000 ---p 00054000 fd:01 
1212684/lib64/libm-2.7.so
7f63aa0cf000-7f63aa0d r--p 00054000 fd:01 
1212684/lib64/libm-2.7.so
7f63aa0d-7f63aa0d1000 rw-p 00055000 fd:01 
1212684/lib64/libm-2.7.so
7f63aa0d1000-7f63aa1c1000 r-xp  fd:01 
920100 /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6.0.10
7f63aa1c1000-7f63aa3c ---p 000f fd:01 
920100 /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6.0.10
7f63aa3c-7f63aa3c7000 r--p 000ef000 fd:01 
920100 /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6.0.10
7f63aa3c7000-7f63aa3c9000 rw-p 000f6000 fd:01 
920100 /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6.0.10
7f63aa3c9000-7f63aa3dc000 rw-p 7f63aa3c9000 00:00 0
7f63aa3dc000-7f63aa3f2000 r-xp  fd:01 
1212694/lib64/libpthread-2.7.so
7f63aa3f2000-7f63aa5f2000 ---p 00016000 fd:01 
1212694/lib64/libpthread-2.7.so
7f63aa5f2000-7f63aa5f3000 r--p 00016000 fd:01 
1212694/lib64/libpthread-2.7.so
7f63aa5f3000-7f63aa5f4000 rw-p 00017000 fd:01 
1212694/lib64/libpthread-2.7.so
7f63aa5f4000-7f63aa5f8000 rw-p 7f63aa5f4000 00:00 0
7f63aa5f8000-7f63aa615000 r-xp  fd:01 
1212579/lib64/ld-2.7.so
7f63aa7ab000-7f63aa7ea000 r--p  fd:01 
1034658/usr/lib/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_CTYPE
7f63aa7ea000-7f63aa7ed000 rw-p 7f63aa7ea000 00:00 0
7f63aa80a000-7f63aa811000 r--s  fd:01 
1034600/usr/lib64/gconv/gconv-modules.cache
7f63aa811000-7f63aa812000 rw-s  fd:01 
1461576/tmp/dvd+rw-format.66Exya (deleted)
7f63aa812000-7f63aa814000 rw-p 7f63aa812000 00:00 0
7f63aa814000-7f63aa815000 r--p 0001c000 fd:01 
1212579/lib64/ld-2.7.so
7f63aa815000-7f63aa816000 rw-p 0001d000 fd:01 
1212579/lib64/ld-2.7.so
7fffb280-7fffb2815000 rw-p 7ffea000 00:00 0  
[stack]
7fffb29fe000-7fffb2a0 r-xp 7fffb29fe000 00:00 0  
[vdso]
ff60-ff601000 r-xp  00:00 0  
[vsyscall]

# /etc/init.d/bacula-fd restart
Shutting down the Bacula File daemon  done
Starting the Bacula File daemon*** buffer overflow detected 
***: /usr/sbin/bacula-fd terminated
=== Backtrace: =
/lib64/libc.so.6(__fortify_fail+0x37)[0x7f870fbff397]
/lib64/libc.so.6[0x7f870fbfd7a0]
/usr/sbin/bacula-fd[0x43327e]
/usr/sbin/bacula-fd[0x4336ae]
/usr/sbin/bacula-fd[0x40706d]
/lib64/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xfa)[0x7f870fb3711a]
/usr/sbin/bacula-fd[0x406c09]
=== Memory map: 
0040-00453000 r-xp  fd:01 
920390 /usr/sbin/bacula-fd
00653000-00654000 r--p 00053000 fd:01 
920390 /usr/sbin/bacula-fd
00654000-00656000 rw-p 00054000 fd:01 
920390 

Re: [opensuse-factory] Problems with current factory

2008-01-18 Thread Felix M?öller

Hi,


- apache2 crashes on many (trivial) requests
- subversion client can't access archives via ssh and https any more
  (or, to be more precise: all files appear with ! in svn status).
my subversion client segfaults on every svn up or svn co. I did noticed 
it this morning and did not yet have time to report. A week or so ago it 
was working.


If you report plaese cc: me on the bug.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Buffer Overflows

2008-01-18 Thread Felix Möller
Hi,

 I noticed that I am encountering a few buffer overflows but I don't see any 
 relevant  reports in bugzilla, so it might be something specific to my 
 system.  Could someone confirm before I enter a bunch of bugs?
 
 The two executables that come to mind, are /usr/bin/dvd+rw-format 
 and  /usr/sbin/bacula-fd but I have seen a few others as well...  This is on 
 x86_64 with latest packages from Factory.
 
 # dvd+rw-format
 *** buffer overflow detected ***: dvd+rw-format terminated
 === Backtrace: =
I can confirm this on i586.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] beagle

2008-01-18 Thread Igor Jagec
On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 16:59 -0800, Joe Sloan wrote:

 Not to sound a discordant note, but I found that with google desktop
 running, thunderbird (and some other apps I can't recall off hand) would
 not start. 

Thunderbird works just fine with GDS on my openSUSE 10.3.

 Once I saw that stopping google desktop fixed the problem, I
 didn't troubleshoot further due to lack of time/interest.

It would be very interesting to see what stops it running since it works
just fine with GDS on my machine. I've never experienced any problem
with GDS so far. Maybe I was just lucky, I don't know.

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[opensuse-factory] memtest

2008-01-18 Thread Felix Miata
I've only tried on Athlon XP @ 2000MHz on VIA KT880  a single Kingston 512M
DDR stick so far. v1.65 runs without finding any errors, but the memtest
v1.70 from yesterday's mirrors produces unceasing errors as soon as it hits
test 2, after a while of which fills the whole screen with them instead of
just the output pane.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] beagle

2008-01-18 Thread Igor Jagec
On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 19:26 -0600, Hans Petter Jansson wrote:

 On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 01:53 +0100, Igor Jagec wrote:
  On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 14:59 -0500, JP Rosevear wrote:
   On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 12:48 +0100, Igor Jagec wrote:
Me too. I use Google Desktop Search because it is more mature tool and
consumes less CPU power.
   Its also indexes far less last time I checked.
  That's nice to hear, thanks! I'll test it on Factory over the weekend.
 I suspect that what JP is saying, is that it indexes far fewer file
 formats, not that its indexer runs faster. At least, that's how I read
 it. It looks like you read it differently, since your reply is so
 positive :)

Yep, I've read it differently :(

BTW I've noticed that it indexes fewer file formats than GDS (which is
one of the reasons why I use GDS), but I'll test it on Factory anyway.
On my openSUSE 10.3 I'll keep using GDS for now.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] runlevel deps on network

2008-01-18 Thread Philipp Thomas
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:20:48 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:

1-cron - why?

Beats me.

2-cups - not all printers have anything to do with networking

a) Per default cups-client listens to a remote cups server and needs
network for that. That's why
b) the init script for cups says it needs network.

3-smartd - why?

Probably because the init script says so.

4-syslog - why?

Same as above.

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[opensuse] Support for NIC RTL8168 Graphic Adapter Intel G33 (Compiz-Fusion)?

2008-01-18 Thread Chee How Chua
Hi,

I'm thinking of getting a new CPU with the Gigabyte motherboard. But
I'm concerned that the built-in graphics adapter and NIC cannot be
recognised by 10.3.

The adapter in question here is Intel G33 and the NIC is RTL8168.

I've tried the Live CD - GNOME and basic Compiz can run on it. I'm
just worried that Compiz-Fusion can't run on it. Does having Compiz
run successfully mean that Compiz-Fusion can run as well? And, no, I
can't do without Compiz-Fusion - I'm a sucker for desktop eye candy =P

As for the NIC, the GNOME Live CD is unable to use it. Meaning that
the Network Manager is able to detect the type of card but says that
it is not connected. It even knows the MAC address. And it is using
the r8169 module for the NIC.

And the sound device is not recognised. I'm testing this on the
GA-G31M-S2L motherboard. Unfortunately I can't install the full
version of 10.3 on it to test it out.

Does anyone here have any experience with the aforementioned hardware?

Thanks in advance!
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Re: [Kiwi-devel] [opensuse] openSUSE 10.3 and LTSP

2008-01-18 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 00:10 +0530, CyberOrg wrote: 
 On Jan 17, 2008 8:59 PM, Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  I have some dhcp/pxelinux/tftpboot questions:
 
  1. How do I get the build to NOT clobber any existing /etc/dhcpd.conf
  file? It seems that anything that was already there is now gone. This
  seems like a bad thing. I wonder what other files were mercilessly
  clobbered. I see things like /etc/pam.d/common-session being copied. I
  assume that is to the new system? I can see no reason for changing
  anything in the host system beyond dhcpd/pxelinux. Or am I missing
  something.
 
 Just run kiwi-ltsp-setup without any options to know what different
 things it offers to do, there are options that just build images and
 not set up any config files.

This explains a bit. kiwi-ltsp-setup -s, as suggested on
opensuse.org/LTSP, says that the machine is a dedicated LTSP box. Which
would imply that any files that should be modified can be modified.
Yikes! I really think the LTSP page should tell what the suggested
command assumes! I wonder how many other unsuspecting folk have had
files replaced. This is especially important as you run this command as
root! Of course, one should not just blindly run commands as root, but
the suggestion to do so is coming from opensuse.org.

How do I get the pxelinux stuff to be done? As a minimum, what would the
pxelinux.cfg entry for a NBD setup be? When I run kiwi-ltsp-setup -t, I
get:

KIWI-LTSP: 2008-01-18 09:50:28: == Starting ==
KIWI-LTSP: 2008-01-18 09:50:28: Setting up KIWI PXE support.
/usr/share/kiwi/image/ltsp/suse-10.3/kiwi-ltsp-functions.sh: line
356: /srv/tftpboot/KIWI/config.default: No such file or directory
KIWI-LTSP: 2008-01-18 09:50:28: == Setup completed ==

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Re: [opensuse] Problem getting printing to work in OpenOffice

2008-01-18 Thread Basil Chupin

Aaron Kulkis wrote:

Basil Chupin wrote:

Aaron Kulkis wrote:

Basil Chupin wrote:

jdd wrote:

Michel Rasquin wrote:

(I have a couple of documents which need to be printed out 
rather quickly (but not as a matter of life or death) so if 
someone can provide a quick answer I would be most grateful.)


as a quick fix to printing problems, it's possible to print to pdf 
(export to pdf with ooo) and print the pdf document


sometime it works...

jdd


Sigh Isn't it beyond belief that a piece of software (Megabytes 
big!) provided by one of the biggest companies has to be 'fiddled' 
before the damn thing will print a (simple) document produced using 
this software (OpenOffice)?


Due more to good luck than anything, last night I found a simple 
reference, in a message in the Sun's OpenOffice 'help' forum, which 
provided me with the information to get OO to print. As you suggest 
in your response, for which I am grateful, it ALL has to do with 
outputting the document to a pdf file and then printing that.


Hmmm.  I've never had to do anything like that... I wonder
if some something changed in a recent revision.


I cannot say if anything has, or has not, changed 'in a recent 
revision'.


All I can say is that in the 'standard' install of 10.2, and now 
10.3, I cannot print in OO using the Lexmark 4039Plus laser printer - 
which prints very well during the Test Print in the OpenSuse printer 
setup - and prints all documents using the KWrite et alia.



The whole process involves trickery worthy of Harry Potter.

I used Microsoft Office for years, using the printer I mention in 
my original post (the Lexmark 4039 plus), and it NEVER even 
considered not printing at the first attempt.



Strange


Why 'Strange?



Strange because this is the first time I've come across
such a thing in 25 years of using Unix and 10 years of
using Linux


Gosh, you have been miraculously protected from all the nasties for so 
may years! :-) .



In many instances Windows works much better than 'Linux'.



If you define much better to mean you have a lot of time
to constantly repair things when it auto-destructs part or
all of itself.


No, I do not define much better in this way.

I have used Windows XP since it came on the market and I have not had to 
repair it for more then, say, a couple of times - and this only 
because of my own fault.


The claim that XP auto-destructs is nothing more than a one-eyed view 
by Linux zealots, and others, who claim that Windows is crap compared to 
Linux-based distros.


I don't trust Windows, and the apps associated with it, for all the 
reasons mentioned in this and other forums as well as in magazine 
articles written by people who know what Windows is all about, but I 
would not support your statement in what you state in the above quoted 
paragraph.




I find windows to be an absolute pain, both as a
user and as an administrator.


Windows is certainly a pain in many ways but as a user it doesn't send 
me into an apoplectic state. That it annoys the heck out of me is true 
and which is why I switched to a Linux-based distro (SuSe being the 
obvious choice after trying out most of the other distros over the years).


Not being an administrator of a Windows-based system I cannot comment 
on your experiences with it (as you intimate above) but - to be very 
realistic - if administrating a Windows setup was so very bad then 
either nobody would be using Windows or the Windows system 
administrators are masochists and/or are too stupid to change jobs so as 
not to work with Windows.




Or is it a problem with openSuse? Don't know.



I've never had a problem printing from OO on SuSE.


Then you are most fortunate.

Why is OpenOffice such a bitch about printing?

Actually no, that's rather typical for Linux and Unix both.

The only systems I've ever been on in which a printer
suddenly stopped working or was unavailable from
an application has been Windows.


Well (and there must be a moral here), I have NEVER has a problem with 
printing in Windows - even printing using a NETGEAR print server on the 
computers on my home network.


You win some, you lose some, as they say in movies.


I'm not saying that your case does not exist...I'm just
saying that it's far RARER in Linux than in Windows.


If you say so - see above.

If you go the OO forum you will find complaints dated 23 January 
2008  about not being able to print.


The above must be a typo for which I apologise - considering that 
*today* is 18 January 2008 :-) .



OK, so there's a bug in the software, which apparently
isn't in the version I'm currently using, and will
probably get tracked down very quickly.

Have you downloaded the latest build, to see if it
works now?


I am using the very latest version of OO (on both 10.2 and 10.3), and 
nothing has changed.


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Re: [Kiwi-devel] [opensuse] openSUSE 10.3 and LTSP

2008-01-18 Thread CyberOrg
On Jan 18, 2008 2:21 PM, Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This explains a bit. kiwi-ltsp-setup -s, as suggested on
 opensuse.org/LTSP, says that the machine is a dedicated LTSP box. Which
 would imply that any files that should be modified can be modified.
 Yikes! I really think the LTSP page should tell what the suggested
 command assumes! I wonder how many other unsuspecting folk have had
 files replaced. This is especially important as you run this command as
 root! Of course, one should not just blindly run commands as root, but
 the suggestion to do so is coming from opensuse.org.

People who know what they are doing, also know that networking, nbd,
dhcp, tftp servers and firewall etc has to be configured, the LTSP
wiki page cannot cover the tutorial for all of those and assume that
the prior knowledge of the servers and configuration involved from the
sysadmins.

For the users who don't know anything about the various services
involved, it is best that we do it for them and they can poke the
configuration files later if they are interested.

With virtualization it is easy to have dedicated LTSP server on which
no other service is configured, so we can replace/enhance/configure
any configuration file that is required for LTSP set up to just work.


 How do I get the pxelinux stuff to be done?

Only configuration file you need to work with is
/etc/sysconfig/kiwi-ltsp (IMAGETYPE=NFS) and switches for
kiwi-ltsp-setup ( -t). Do not change TFTPBOOTPATH as /srv/tftpboot is
where kiwi installs boot images.
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Re: [opensuse] BASH .bashrc su question

2008-01-18 Thread Marcin Floryan
On 17/01/2008, David C. Rankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Marcin Floryan wrote:

  I find using screen even more comfortable. You can easily have several
  sessions open and switch between them and keep being logged in as
  root. It works well with SSH access too.

 Alright, looks like I have to add a few tools to my tool box. With
 regard to screen, what advantages does it have over running konsole with
 multiple sessions? I've looked at the man page, but can't figure out
 what the advantage would be over multiple tabs in konsole and using
 shift+rt or shift+lt arrows to move between screens. Marcin, what are
 your thoughts?

With screen you can easily attach and detach from the session and
continue it being connected remotely so it is easy to start some task
in the terminal window on my machine and the continue when I am away.
Screen can give you the same tabs though presented as a list (Ctrl+A
+ ) and you can name them too. Switching is easy using (Ctrl+A + n)
so you can go directly from window 2 to window 5 :-)

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Re: [Kiwi-devel] [opensuse] openSUSE 10.3 and LTSP

2008-01-18 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 15:58 +0530, CyberOrg wrote: 
 On Jan 18, 2008 3:36 PM, Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  that this will happen. I simply suggest that the web page say what the
  suggested -s option means and that system files will be replaced as a
  result of running it. No more than two lines of warning.
 
 I've added the reminder, btw, it's a wiki, please improve :)

Not until I know more. We don't need the blind leading the blind!

 pxeboot is required for both, either NFS/NBD, NFS was just a
 suggestion for a quick development setup. NFS is not recommended way
 of serving LTSP5.

Indeed. I prefer to have a single squasfs file to manage. I was worried when 
you mentioned setting the type to NFS.

 pxelinux files are installed with kiwi-pxeboot package, should be in
 /srv/tftpboot unless it is moved/removed manually. Reinstall the
 package just in case and also update all kiwi packages to latest.

Ahh. I could very well have deleted them. I thought the pxelinux files
in /srv/tftpboot were copied there in the build, from wherever the
kiwi-pxeboot package had the original files. This is why I should not be
let loose on the wiki...

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Re: [Kiwi-devel] [opensuse] openSUSE 10.3 and LTSP

2008-01-18 Thread CyberOrg
On Jan 18, 2008 3:36 PM, Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 that this will happen. I simply suggest that the web page say what the
 suggested -s option means and that system files will be replaced as a
 result of running it. No more than two lines of warning.

I've added the reminder, btw, it's a wiki, please improve :)


 I'm confused. (Granted that is not difficult to do.) I have an image
 type of NBD (the default). The dhcpd.conf file was written by
 kiwi-ltsp-setup to have clients boot with pxelinux. But there is no
 pxelinux nor pxelinux.cfg file. Can't the NBD image be served when the
 client boots with pxelinux? If not, why was the dhcpd.conf file set to

pxeboot is required for both, either NFS/NBD, NFS was just a
suggestion for a quick development setup. NFS is not recommended way
of serving LTSP5.

 use pxelinux? If so, where are the files?

 I tried running kiwi-ltsp-setup -n2. It ended with this:

 KIWI-LTSP: 2008-01-18 10:20:27: Fixing up the netboot initrd and kernel
 filenames
 rm: cannot remove
 `/srv/tftpboot/boot/initrd-netboot-suse-10.3-ltsp.*.kernel': No such
 file or directory
 mv: cannot stat
 `/srv/tftpboot/boot/initrd-netboot-suse-10.3-ltsp*.kernel.*': No such
 file or directory
 KIWI-LTSP: 2008-01-18 10:20:27: == Setup completed ==


 In fact, the files that exist are called:

 /srv/tftpboot/boot/initrd
 /srv/tftpboot/boot/initrd-netboot-suse-10.3.i686-2.1.1.kernel
 /srv/tftpboot/boot/initrd-netboot-suse-10.3.i686-2.1.1.kernel.2.6.22.5-31-default

 which are not quite the right thing. Maybe this error results in the
 pxelinux files not getting written?

Manually cp /srv/tftpboot/boot/initrd-netboot-suse-10.3.i686-2.1.1.kernel
/srv/tftpboot/boot/linux

pxelinux files are installed with kiwi-pxeboot package, should be in
/srv/tftpboot unless it is moved/removed manually. Reinstall the
package just in case and also update all kiwi packages to latest.

ciao

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Re: [opensuse] Sshd _config options

2008-01-18 Thread Dave Howorth
Jim Flanagan wrote:
 To follow up on this, what would be involved for an automated process to
 log in as root in this manner?

Out of curiosity, when would this be necessary? What task cannot be done
by the local root - e.g. as a cron job - or by a specific userid created
for remote access?

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[opensuse] Backout patch?

2008-01-18 Thread Mike
Yesterday my system installed a security update, xorg-x11-Xnest.  Later, after 
I cycled the Xserver I found that I could no longer use eclipse.

I've been trying to figure out how to back out this patch, but I don't see a 
way to do so.

I searched bugzilla and found that someone has filed a bug (354593) against 
this problem, but in my experience they never get fixed until the next 
version (if you're lucky).
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Re: [opensuse] Disable KSnapshot-Print Screen connection

2008-01-18 Thread John King
On Thursday 17 January 2008 15:29:12 Carlos E. R. wrote:
 The Thursday 2008-01-17 at 09:15 -0600, David C. Rankin wrote:
  Carlos E. R. wrote:
   Ha, ha!  :-P
 
   In my system, 'alt+print' does produce a window capture. 'ctrl+print'
  does nothing, and 'print' captures the entire display.
 
   Gnome, of course.
 
  God it pains me, but Gnome 1, KDE 0 in this situation...

 I'm sure it works somehow, too, in kde, only that I can't say how, as I
 don't use it much. Maybe you have to start some application first, an
 applet perhaps.

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 Cheers,
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On my 10.3 KDE system 'alt+print' produces a window capture and 'ctrl+print' 
captures the entire display.  I have to paste the results into another 
application (e.g. openoffice writer) to see them.
'print scr' by itself brings up ksnapshot with the full screen captured.

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re: [opensuse]

2008-01-18 Thread Wayne and Leanne Roberts
Hi all,

Has anybody used the encrypt your home partition feature in 
10.3 yet?
If so how much of a performance hit is there? Any potential pitfalls I need to 
know about? Or does anybody know if there is a technical primer available?

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RE: [opensuse] encrypting your home partition

2008-01-18 Thread Wayne and Leanne Roberts
Hi all

Does/ has anybody used the encrypt your home partition feature ON 
SUSE 10.3?
How transparent is it in use? Any performance overheads? Any technical 
primers available?

Thanks
wayne

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Re: [opensuse] Serial terminal installation

2008-01-18 Thread Aaron Kulkis

vasilis christaras wrote:

Hi,
I'm trying to install opensuse 10.2 on a machine without monitor+keyboard.
I only have access via the serial console.
When the dvd boot loader starts it kicks in, in graphical 
mode and minicom will show nothing, just a white screen.

Tried all terminal+serial port settings with no success.

Any ideas on how to do it?


If you don't' have to do this for many machines, then
just borrow a monitor from another machine, plug in a
spare keyboard, and be done with it.

Sometimes work-arounds ARE the best solution for the
current circumstances.



I managed to get it to text by counting to 10 then pressing esc,
counting to 5 and then pressing Enter, but it's not really ideal.



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Re: [opensuse] Sshd _config options

2008-01-18 Thread Joe Morris (NTM)

On 01/18/2008 10:48 AM, Jim Flanagan wrote:

To follow up on this, what would be involved for an automated process to
log in as root in this manner? 

I would guess using sudo.

I understand doing this manually, like
any shell on the machine, but does there exist any automated login
scripts that try to get user, then root, or is this considered too many
steps to be practical from a crackers standpoint?
  
Not sure, but you could allow a user restricted root commands using 
sudo, instead of suing to root to run a command.

Also, if you set the SSH login to accept only a key (with or without
passphrase), is it considered secure to allow direct root logins (or
rather authentications) using a key only?
  
I would think so, and is probably the best way to run a root required 
command remotely via ssh, since sudo would give the local user access to 
those root commands if local, while the key restricted root login would 
keep that process secure and not give more privilege to a user.


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Re: [opensuse] Serial terminal installation

2008-01-18 Thread vasilis christaras
It's a new system. No OS. I'm trying to install it from the opensuse DVD
using a serial console.I can't even get past the boot loader screen of the DVD.

Regards,
Vasilis

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From: Theo v. Werkhoven [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: opensuse@opensuse.org
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 11:32:28 PM
Subject: Re: [opensuse] Serial terminal installation


Thu, 17 Jan 2008, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi,
 I'm trying to install opensuse 10.2 on a machine without
 monitor+keyboard.
 I only have access via the serial console.
 When the dvd boot loader starts it kicks in, in graphical 
 mode and minicom will show nothing, just a white screen.
 Tried all terminal+serial port settings with no success.
 
 Any ideas on how to do it?

You enabled the agetty in /etc/inittab?
#S0:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -L 9600 ttyS0 vt102
or
#cons:12345:respawn:/sbin/smart_agetty -L 38400 console
^ Remove hash and do 'init q' as root

Found this Novell page:
https://secure-support.novell.com/KanisaPlatform/Publishing/584/3456486_f.SAL_Public.html

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Re: [Kiwi-devel] [opensuse] openSUSE 10.3 and LTSP

2008-01-18 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 14:45 +0530, CyberOrg wrote:
 On Jan 18, 2008 2:21 PM, Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  This explains a bit. kiwi-ltsp-setup -s, as suggested on
  opensuse.org/LTSP, says that the machine is a dedicated LTSP box. Which
  would imply that any files that should be modified can be modified.
  Yikes! I really think the LTSP page should tell what the suggested
  command assumes! I wonder how many other unsuspecting folk have had
  files replaced. This is especially important as you run this command as
  root! Of course, one should not just blindly run commands as root, but
  the suggestion to do so is coming from opensuse.org.
 
 People who know what they are doing, also know that networking, nbd,
 dhcp, tftp servers and firewall etc has to be configured, the LTSP
 wiki page cannot cover the tutorial for all of those and assume that
 the prior knowledge of the servers and configuration involved from the
 sysadmins.

Not my point. I am not thinking of those who do or do not know dhcp and
all. I am thinking of those who do NOT know KIWI. You know, the type of
people who would be at this web page in the first place. Of course you
can set these things up. It is nice that there is such an option. My
concern is that the web page makes a suggestion that you use an option
with kiwi-ltsp-setup that replaces system config files - without telling
that this will happen. I simply suggest that the web page say what the
suggested -s option means and that system files will be replaced as a
result of running it. No more than two lines of warning.

 For the users who don't know anything about the various services
 involved, it is best that we do it for them and they can poke the
 configuration files later if they are interested.
 
 With virtualization it is easy to have dedicated LTSP server on which
 no other service is configured, so we can replace/enhance/configure
 any configuration file that is required for LTSP set up to just work.
 
 
  How do I get the pxelinux stuff to be done?
 
 Only configuration file you need to work with is
 /etc/sysconfig/kiwi-ltsp (IMAGETYPE=NFS) and switches for
 kiwi-ltsp-setup ( -t). Do not change TFTPBOOTPATH as /srv/tftpboot is
 where kiwi installs boot images.

I'm confused. (Granted that is not difficult to do.) I have an image
type of NBD (the default). The dhcpd.conf file was written by
kiwi-ltsp-setup to have clients boot with pxelinux. But there is no
pxelinux nor pxelinux.cfg file. Can't the NBD image be served when the
client boots with pxelinux? If not, why was the dhcpd.conf file set to
use pxelinux? If so, where are the files?

I tried running kiwi-ltsp-setup -n2. It ended with this:

KIWI-LTSP: 2008-01-18 10:20:27: Fixing up the netboot initrd and kernel
filenames
rm: cannot remove
`/srv/tftpboot/boot/initrd-netboot-suse-10.3-ltsp.*.kernel': No such
file or directory
mv: cannot stat
`/srv/tftpboot/boot/initrd-netboot-suse-10.3-ltsp*.kernel.*': No such
file or directory
KIWI-LTSP: 2008-01-18 10:20:27: == Setup completed ==


In fact, the files that exist are called:

/srv/tftpboot/boot/initrd
/srv/tftpboot/boot/initrd-netboot-suse-10.3.i686-2.1.1.kernel
/srv/tftpboot/boot/initrd-netboot-suse-10.3.i686-2.1.1.kernel.2.6.22.5-31-default

which are not quite the right thing. Maybe this error results in the
pxelinux files not getting written?

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Re: [opensuse] MySQL 5 rpms for SuSE 9.3?

2008-01-18 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Friday 2008-01-18 at 11:14 +0800, Jonathan Ervine wrote:


Ha! How often do you do upgrades? I mean, not a fresh install? It does
take the weekend. The machine is up and running in 3..6 hours, but then
you are adjusting configs and solving problems the rest of the week.


It depends. Desktops/laptops with every release. As was stated, these aren't
really an issue anyway. Servers - not as frequently. But then for servers I
use SLES. Even so, I don't find that I need to adjust configs for the rest of
the week. I suppose if you count testing time into the 'time to upgrade' then
my upgrades might take a while.


Yep, I count that. And asking here, too ;-)


(Not forgetting making sure I have a last
known good backup, or at least a roll-back method)


Me too. Plus a spare partition with a working system.


I do upgrade, so I know...


Fair enough - everyone has a different experience. I also see from another
thread that you recompile your kernels which presumably adds to your
upgrade/tweaking/fixing time as well...


X'-)

Right... but I don't do that day one. The compile alone can take 4 hours 
in this machine, considering I 'nice' it so I can continue with my things.


There is also the first YOU run, that also takes a longish time, there are 
so many patches. I don't do that from the DVD.


I consider about a week to have every thing running correctly, but of 
course the machine is running and usable from day one. The upgrade itself 
takes about 6 hours, maybe more, because it downloads things that aren't 
in the DVD from remote repositories; the adsl has an hiccup now and then, 
and Yast dutifully pops up asking whether I want to retry or skip... and 
as I don't sit that many hours waiting for it to finish, when I come back 
and see that pop up I get somewhat mad.


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Re: [opensuse] BASH .bashrc su question

2008-01-18 Thread Chee How Chua
On Jan 18, 2008 5:17 PM, Marcin Floryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 With screen you can easily attach and detach from the session and
 continue it being connected remotely so it is easy to start some task
 in the terminal window on my machine and the continue when I am away.
 Screen can give you the same tabs though presented as a list (Ctrl+A
 + ) and you can name them too. Switching is easy using (Ctrl+A + n)
 so you can go directly from window 2 to window 5 :-)

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Another useful function of screen is it can do copy and paste. I know
it isn't exceptionally useful in a GUI environment, but if you only
work in runlevel 3, the copy-and-paste capability can be quite handy.

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Re: [opensuse] Finding a lot of Cache's

2008-01-18 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Carl Spitzer wrote:

 find ./ -type d -name [cC]ache -print

./.kde/share/apps/amarok/albumcovers/cache
./.gftp/cache
./.java/deployment/cache
./OpenOffice.org/user/registry/cache
./.mozilla/default/6mfyxp94.slt/Cache
./.mozilla/firefox/wn3ea5bj.default/Cache
./.evolution/mail/pop/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/cache
many more . . . 
./.evolution/cache

./.openoffice.org2/user/uno_packages/cache
./.openoffice.org2/user/registry/cache
./.adobe/Acrobat/7.0/Cache
./.macromedia/Flash_Player/#SharedObjects/HHPWQGBG/localhost/cwsiv/.mozilla/default/6mfyxp94.slt/Cache
./.ooo-2.0-pre/user/uno_packages/cache
./.ooo-2.0-pre/user/registry/cache

Can I safely clean these out?


Log out of the GUI, login to a text terminal, and
you can safey clean them out, fully secure in the
knowledge that none of these X11 programs are running.

  I am looking fow where I nearly filled up

a 15 gig /home.


Very interesting.  I'll take a look at my own system ;-)


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Re: [opensuse] Permissions and Catch-22

2008-01-18 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-17-08 15:38]:

On Thursday 17 January 2008 11:02, Don Raboud wrote:

On Wednesday 16 January 2008 16:38, Randall R Schulz wrote:

(I chose df instead of the more obvious mount simply because
the output is easier to read, in my opinion.)

mount | column -t
Very nice. There's lots of places where I can use the column command. 
I can't believe I never encountered it before.


Yes, but it's so new.  The man pages were authored 1993  :^)


And I believe the command originated on BSD in the 1980's.


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[opensuse] Add variables to standard output for

2008-01-18 Thread Dirk Moolman
Ok, I don't know how to word my question properly. I am writing a
script that greps for a string (for a command that has multiple lines of
output - the finger command)


My problem:   I want to take the standard output (1) from a grep
command, but I also want to add my own values to the resulting line.
Let's use a simple example:

My script:
---
for i in `sort /etc/passwd | cut -f1 -d:`
do
  finger $i | grep -i last
done


The output will look like this:

Last login Fri Jan 18 09:32 (SAST) on 57 from 163.197.212.133
Last login Fri Aug 31 13:06 (SAST) on 38 from 163.197.212.113
Last login Mon Jan 14 11:23 (SAST) on 39 from 163.197.208.90
Last login Wed Sep 12 08:00 (SAST) on 153 from 163.197.212.142
Last login Fri Jul  6 09:13 2007 (SAST) on 188 from 163.197.222.37
Last login Wed Feb 21 08:21 2007 (SAST) on 155 from 163.197.206.103
Last login Fri Jan 18 11:01 (SAST) on 218 from 163.197.212.11
Last login Thu Dec 20 10:50 (SAST) on 196 from 163.197.210.31
Last login Fri May  4 11:47 2007 (SAST) on 88 from 163.197.207.16
Last login Fri Jan 18 09:15 (SAST) on 81 from 163.197.212.83



BUT, I want to add the user's login to the lines above, for example:

$i: Last login Fri Jan 18 09:32 (SAST) on 57 from 163.197.212.133
$i: Last login Fri Aug 31 13:06 (SAST) on 38 from 163.197.212.113
$i: Last login Mon Jan 14 11:23 (SAST) on 39 from 163.197.208.90
$i: Last login Wed Sep 12 08:00 (SAST) on 153 from 163.197.212.142
$i: Last login Fri Jul  6 09:13 2007 (SAST) on 188 from 163.197.222.37

where $i is the login of the user from the script


How can I place $i, and the standard output of grep, on the same line
(make it 1 line of output) ?



Dirk


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Re: [opensuse] SLES, openSuSE and release cycles... what's the plan?

2008-01-18 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 04:49:41PM +0100, Frank Steiner wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I tried to figure out (via the SLES support) when SLES 11 will be 
 released. The answer was that SLES 11 will likely (not guaranteed) have
 a common code base with opensuse 11.1 and thus should appear in spring
 2009 or so. More detailed information couldn't be given due to legal issues.
 
 Maybe I can get some general statements about this topic from some openSuSE
 and SLES developers here, I don't know where else to discuss this.
 
 So far, SLES was supposed to be released in a 2-year-cycle, from 8 to
 10 it was even less (22 months). With the information from the support
 I wonder if this 2-year period is still targeted at or not. 
 
 It looks like opensuse 11.0 will take very long according to the schedule.
 To keep the 2-year-cycle for SLES, SLES11 would have to share the code
 base with openSuSE 11.0 (and even then it would be short due to the
 2-3 months delay between the SuSE and the SLES version in the past).
 
 When sharing with openSuSE 11.1 and assuming the same long development 
 cycle for 11.1 as for 11.0, SLES 11 would indeed appear sometime in spring
 2009. Thus, being closer to a 3-year-cycle than to a 2-year.
 
 Maybe the decision about SLES 11 and the code base for it hasn't been
 made yet, but I would like to know what's the general plan for the
 future. Will Novell try to keep the 2-year release cycle for SLES?
 
 If not, we must consider switching to sth. else :-( 2 years is already
 hard for servers that we use for software development, webservices and 
 things like that. The repositories make it possible to stay with one SLES 
 for 2 years, but after that we need a fresh, up-to-date installation with
 all the lastest tomcat stuff etc.

The scheduling decision when SLES 11 will happen have not been made.
Rough lines are likely discussed already, but not down to my level.

In general we try to also try capture Features in the Service Packs too, 

Hmm.

As for the feature things, perhaps this is something we should really
look into doing for the Service Packs too.

For SP2 we already update php5 to 5.2.latest for instance (but I am afraid
for other features it is likely too late already).

 (and yes, Crispin, of course I'm also worrying about our SLES for servers,
 same SuSE codebase for clients setup that we discussed once in the past ;-) 
 Although I'm able to work around this now with a combined SLES+SLED 
 installation :-))

Crispin is unfortunately no longer with Novell...

Ciao, Marcus
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[opensuse] SLES, openSuSE and release cycles... what's the plan?

2008-01-18 Thread Frank Steiner
Hi,

I tried to figure out (via the SLES support) when SLES 11 will be 
released. The answer was that SLES 11 will likely (not guaranteed) have
a common code base with opensuse 11.1 and thus should appear in spring
2009 or so. More detailed information couldn't be given due to legal issues.

Maybe I can get some general statements about this topic from some openSuSE
and SLES developers here, I don't know where else to discuss this.

So far, SLES was supposed to be released in a 2-year-cycle, from 8 to
10 it was even less (22 months). With the information from the support
I wonder if this 2-year period is still targeted at or not. 

It looks like opensuse 11.0 will take very long according to the schedule.
To keep the 2-year-cycle for SLES, SLES11 would have to share the code
base with openSuSE 11.0 (and even then it would be short due to the
2-3 months delay between the SuSE and the SLES version in the past).

When sharing with openSuSE 11.1 and assuming the same long development 
cycle for 11.1 as for 11.0, SLES 11 would indeed appear sometime in spring
2009. Thus, being closer to a 3-year-cycle than to a 2-year.

Maybe the decision about SLES 11 and the code base for it hasn't been
made yet, but I would like to know what's the general plan for the
future. Will Novell try to keep the 2-year release cycle for SLES?

If not, we must consider switching to sth. else :-( 2 years is already
hard for servers that we use for software development, webservices and 
things like that. The repositories make it possible to stay with one SLES 
for 2 years, but after that we need a fresh, up-to-date installation with
all the lastest tomcat stuff etc.

(and yes, Crispin, of course I'm also worrying about our SLES for servers,
same SuSE codebase for clients setup that we discussed once in the past ;-) 
Although I'm able to work around this now with a combined SLES+SLED 
installation :-))

cu,
Frank



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RE: [opensuse] Add variables to standard output for

2008-01-18 Thread Dirk Moolman
Great - thank you very much :-)  

I had to change the syntax a little, but it works :-)


for i in `sort /etc/passwd | cut -f1 -d:`
do
  if blubb=`finger $i | grep Last`
  then
echo $i: $blubb
  fi
done


Dirk

-Original Message-
From: Henne Vogelsang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 18 January 2008 04:34 PM
To: opensuse@opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [opensuse] Add variables to standard output for

Hi,

On Friday, January 18, 2008 at 11:52:35, Dirk Moolman wrote:

 Ok, I don't know how to word my question properly. I am writing a
 script that greps for a string (for a command that has multiple lines
of
 output - the finger command)
 
 My problem:   I want to take the standard output (1) from a grep
 command, but I also want to add my own values to the resulting line.
 Let's use a simple example:
 
 My script:
 ---
 for i in `sort /etc/passwd | cut -f1 -d:`
 do
   finger $i | grep -i last
 done
 
 
 The output will look like this:
 Last login Mon Jan 14 11:23 (SAST) on 39 from 163.197.208.90
 
 BUT, I want to add the user's login to the lines above, for example:
 
 $i: Last login Fri Jan 18 09:32 (SAST) on 57 from 163.197.212.133

for i in `sort /etc/passwd | cut -f1 -d:`
do
  if blubb=`finger $i | grep Last`; then
echo $i: $blubb;
  fi
done

Henne

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Re: [opensuse] Latest xorg update is problematic

2008-01-18 Thread G T Smith
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Tamás Cservenák wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have Suse packaged Sun JDK 1.5 and Sun JDK 1.6. Eclipse behaved the
 same way, produced the same error with both!
 
 Had the same symptoms as Ubuntu community!
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=671065
 
 And resolved it with downgrading, as a wrote in my previous mail.
 
 
 ~t~
 
 On Jan 18, 2008 4:37 PM, G T Smith
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Tamás Cservenák wrote:
 Same here,

 openSUSE 10.3, on 32bit.

 All SWT based applications stopped working! My biggest problem is my
 worktool, eclipse! Yesterday was all ok, today it simply died with
 error Philippe described.

 The solution was, that i restored the packages updated today with
 following versions:
 xorg-x11-devel-7.2-103.2.i586.rpm
 xorg-x11-libs-7.2-103.2.i586.rpm
 xorg-x11-server-7.2-143.6.i586.rpm
 xorg-x11-server-extra-7.2-143.6.i586.rpm

 In previous mail, i noted only libs package as cause by mistake.

 ~t~


Not the point... (see below)...

snip

 The offending packages are:

 cut--
 xorg-x11-server-7.2-30.11 Fri 18 Jan 2008 08:39:33 CET
 xorg-x11-devel-7.2-25 Fri 18 Jan 2008 08:39:08 CET
 xorg-x11-libs-7.2-25  Fri 18 Jan 2008 08:39:00 CET
 cut--

 Similar packages were distributed this morning via apt-get for Ubuntu
 users and have the same detrimental effects.

 Is anyone here aware of this issue ?

 Ph. A.

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 snip
 
 Hmm... I am using eclipse 3.2.2 on SuSE 10.2 with the update and it is
 running without problems for me (so far)... It might be worth specifying
 JRE version (and whether it is the SuSE RPM version) and and whether
 Eclipse is the SuSE RPM version...
 
 I looked at bugzilla report and did the update just to check things out,
 rebooted and have had no problems so far. However, both JRE and Eclipse
 are SuSE RPM versions, and  I am also not using 1.6 This may be where
 the problem lies, ... It might be worth updating the bugzilla report
 with these details...
 
 

Currently with ...

 xorg-x11-server-7.2-30.11
 xorg-x11-devel-7.2-25
 xorg-x11-libs-7.2-25

As Philippe ...

and I have had NO problems with Eclipse on 10.2 (you are running 10.3,
Philippe is on 10.2 and there are some differences between what Java
versions are available )... so the issue is what if anything is
different between what I am doing and what others are doing which is
creating a problem...

I have java 1.5.0 update 13-0.5 installed ...but I also have the
swt_3_2-gtk version of the swt.jar file installed (not certain whether
that would be relevant)...


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RE: [opensuse] encrypting your home partition

2008-01-18 Thread PerfectReign
On Fri, January 18, 2008 3:32 am, Wayne and Leanne Roberts wrote:
 Hi all

   Does/ has anybody used the encrypt your home partition feature ON
 SUSE 10.3?
   How transparent is it in use? Any performance overheads? Any
 technical primers available?

I've tried on two different machines over a few weekends and couln't
get it to be reliable.

It would cause the system to behave erratically.

I'm going to hold off on encryption until 11.0, since they just
changed the methodology and may need time to work out some six-legged
critters.

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Re: [opensuse] java

2008-01-18 Thread Michal Vyskocil
On Thursday 17 January 2008 16:21:09 Pavel Nemec wrote:
 Dne Thursday 17 January 2008 16:12:12 Chuck Davis napsal(a):
  Konqueror does a better job with Java.  It does not need a plugin --
  uses the real jre runtime.

 Which is not true :)
 Konqueror ignore security settings. It use javaplugin viewer directly which
 is bad.

 Anyway I solve this always by downloading 64b java from sun and sett
 manualy my environment. It is not so big problem.


Really? Do you have a 64bit plugin from Sun? Should you tell me a little more? 
Where do you found it? Because the official release from Sun 
(https://jdk-distros.dev.java.net/developer.html) doesn't include the 64bit 
plugin anymore.

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Re: [opensuse] Latest xorg update is problematic

2008-01-18 Thread Tamás Cservenák
Same here,

openSUSE 10.3, on 32bit.

All SWT based applications stopped working! My biggest problem is my
worktool, eclipse! Yesterday was all ok, today it simply died with
error Philippe described.

The solution was, that i restored the packages updated today with
following versions:
xorg-x11-devel-7.2-103.2.i586.rpm
xorg-x11-libs-7.2-103.2.i586.rpm
xorg-x11-server-7.2-143.6.i586.rpm
xorg-x11-server-extra-7.2-143.6.i586.rpm

In previous mail, i noted only libs package as cause by mistake.

~t~

On Jan 18, 2008 3:47 PM, Philippe Andersson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello list,

 Since installing the latest xorg updates for OpenSuSE 10.2, some
 applications fail to start. One example I was able to verify is eclipse
 (ver. 3.2). Here is the error message:

 cut--
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ The program 'Eclipse' received an X Window System error.
 This probably reflects a bug in the program.
 The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'.
   (Details: serial 582 error_code 11 request_code 144 minor_code 5)
   (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)
 cut--

 Other reportedly affected applications are 'VLC' and 'xchm'. I was not
 able to verify that.

 The offending packages are:

 cut--
 xorg-x11-server-7.2-30.11 Fri 18 Jan 2008 08:39:33 CET
 xorg-x11-devel-7.2-25 Fri 18 Jan 2008 08:39:08 CET
 xorg-x11-libs-7.2-25  Fri 18 Jan 2008 08:39:00 CET
 cut--

 Similar packages were distributed this morning via apt-get for Ubuntu
 users and have the same detrimental effects.

 Is anyone here aware of this issue ?

 Ph. A.

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Re: [Kiwi-devel] [opensuse] openSUSE 10.3 and LTSP

2008-01-18 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 20:03 +0530, CyberOrg wrote:
 On Jan 18, 2008 7:53 PM, Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  It was on the kernel command line in /srv/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default.
  After I changed that, it finds the tftp server. Then it is looking for
  network config files. Which it does not find. So it waits 60 secs and
  tries again. And again...
 
 It is looking for /srv/tftpboot/KIWI/config.default
 
 Instead of going through all the files that are not configured due to
 original misconfiguration, let us start over.
 
 * Make sure you are using all the latest kiwi packages available
 * disable firewall
 * Mount i386 DVD5 media somewhere
 * Get /etc/sysconfig/kiwi-ltsp right according to your setup
 * run kiwi-ltsp-setup -s and let it configure everything for you
 * boot client

I will do this. I do think it is this way. But I will try again.

The system did eventually come up with a GUI login. And I can ssh to it.
So things are looking up. I was just surprised that 'df' foes not exist.
And that 'mount' lists nothing.

Now that I get this far, I want to do more! Like mounting an NFS volume.
Now the fun begins...

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[opensuse] XOrg update and SWT apps

2008-01-18 Thread Tamás Cservenák
Hi there,

 today i have applied (actually updater offered and i said 'yes') this update:
 xorg-x11-libs-7.2-103.2_103.4.i586.delta.rpm

 And since then, my primary tool (Eclipse Europa) is dead! Same happens
 on Sun JDK 1.6 and Sun JDK 1.5.

 Linux is openSuse 10.3 + videolan + packman reposes, regularly update
 HW: 32bit notebook, i915 video with i810 driver and Compiz + AIGLX

 Eclipse worked flawlessly until today. Today, the machine prompted for
 update, and after reboot the Eclipse (and Azureus!) was simply dead.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/javadev/eclipse ./eclipse
 The program 'Eclipse' received an X Window System error.
 This probably reflects a bug in the program.
 The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'.
  (Details: serial 442 error_code 11 request_code 145 minor_code 5)
  (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
   that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
   To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
   option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
   backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/javadev/eclipse echo $JAVA_HOME
 /usr/lib/jvm/java
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/javadev/eclipse JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0 
./eclipse
 The program 'Eclipse' received an X Window System error.
 This probably reflects a bug in the program.
 The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'.
  (Details: serial 437 error_code 11 request_code 145 minor_code 5)
  (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
   that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
   To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
   option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
   backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/javadev/eclipse

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Re: [opensuse] Support for NIC RTL8168 Graphic Adapter Intel G33 (Compiz-Fusion)?

2008-01-18 Thread Greg Freemyer
On Jan 18, 2008 3:03 AM, Chee How Chua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm thinking of getting a new CPU with the Gigabyte motherboard. But
 I'm concerned that the built-in graphics adapter and NIC cannot be
 recognised by 10.3.

 The adapter in question here is Intel G33 and the NIC is RTL8168.

 I've tried the Live CD - GNOME and basic Compiz can run on it. I'm
 just worried that Compiz-Fusion can't run on it. Does having Compiz
 run successfully mean that Compiz-Fusion can run as well? And, no, I
 can't do without Compiz-Fusion - I'm a sucker for desktop eye candy =P

 As for the NIC, the GNOME Live CD is unable to use it. Meaning that
 the Network Manager is able to detect the type of card but says that
 it is not connected. It even knows the MAC address. And it is using
 the r8169 module for the NIC.

 And the sound device is not recognised. I'm testing this on the
 GA-G31M-S2L motherboard. Unfortunately I can't install the full
 version of 10.3 on it to test it out.

 Does anyone here have any experience with the aforementioned hardware?

 Thanks in advance!

If you look at netstat -i (iirc) does it show bytes sent, but none received.

I had that issue on one of my MBs.  It indicates that interrupts are
not working.  I had to boot with the -msi option I think.

You can find details of what I did in Novell's bugzilla.  I don't have
too many I submitted.

Good Luck
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Re: [Kiwi-devel] [opensuse] openSUSE 10.3 and LTSP

2008-01-18 Thread CyberOrg
On Jan 18, 2008 7:53 PM, Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 It was on the kernel command line in /srv/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default.
 After I changed that, it finds the tftp server. Then it is looking for
 network config files. Which it does not find. So it waits 60 secs and
 tries again. And again...

It is looking for /srv/tftpboot/KIWI/config.default

Instead of going through all the files that are not configured due to
original misconfiguration, let us start over.

* Make sure you are using all the latest kiwi packages available
* disable firewall
* Mount i386 DVD5 media somewhere
* Get /etc/sysconfig/kiwi-ltsp right according to your setup
* run kiwi-ltsp-setup -s and let it configure everything for you
* boot client

Cheers

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Re: [opensuse] Serial terminal installation

2008-01-18 Thread James Knott
vasilis christaras wrote:
 It should be straight forward. That was and i think still is
 how linux is installed in computers in data centers.
 A dumb terminal connected to the server via a serial cable.

   

Many servers these days come with built in KVM or you can plug in a
keyboard and monitor with not much more difficulty than a serial cable.


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Re: [opensuse] Serial terminal installation

2008-01-18 Thread vasilis christaras
No,not really.
I think the easiest way is to rebuild the dvd , set the
boot loader without the gfxboot option and also pass console=tty0,115200 to the 
kernel.
But I have no idea how to do this.

Not really sure if i can copy all the contents of the dvd to a folder
and then use isolinux to rebuild it.

Cheers,
Vasilis 


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 It should be straight forward. That was and i think still is
 how linux is installed in computers in data centers.
 A dumb terminal connected to the server via a serial cable.

How about using autoyast? Is that at all an option for you?

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Re: [opensuse] Serial terminal installation

2008-01-18 Thread Marcin Floryan
On 18/01/2008, vasilis christaras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It should be straight forward. That was and i think still is
 how linux is installed in computers in data centers.
 A dumb terminal connected to the server via a serial cable.

How about using autoyast? Is that at all an option for you?

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Re: [opensuse] Serial terminal installation

2008-01-18 Thread vasilis christaras
It should be straight forward. That was and i think still is
how linux is installed in computers in data centers.
A dumb terminal connected to the server via a serial cable.


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Subject: Re: [opensuse] Serial terminal installation


vasilis christaras wrote:
 It's a new system. No OS. I'm trying to install it from the opensuse
 DVD
 using a serial console.I can't even get past the boot loader screen
 of the DVD.

   

Is that even possible?  I've certainly never heard of it.

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Re: [opensuse] Sshd _config options

2008-01-18 Thread Jim Flanagan
Dave Howorth wrote:
 Jim Flanagan wrote:
   
 To follow up on this, what would be involved for an automated process to
 log in as root in this manner?
 

 Out of curiosity, when would this be necessary? What task cannot be done
 by the local root - e.g. as a cron job - or by a specific userid created
 for remote access?

 Cheers, Dave
   
As an example, for a while I was uploading web page changes remotely
using scp over ssh. htdocs is root so I logged in a root. To keep things
simple I didn't modify htdocs permissions to allow any other user to
write. (At that time I had a router that I could administer remotely as
well, so I would log into my router, open port 22 to my server, then ssh
into the server as root to make the changes. After that session I would
re-log into my router and close port 22 again. That router eventually
failed and my current one does not allow remote admin, so I simply keep
port 22 closed, but I'd like to have remote access again).

Jim F
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Re: [opensuse] BASH .bashrc su question

2008-01-18 Thread Marcin Floryan
On 18/01/2008, Chee How Chua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Jan 18, 2008 5:17 PM, Marcin Floryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Another useful function of screen is it can do copy and paste. I know
 it isn't exceptionally useful in a GUI environment, but if you only
 work in runlevel 3, the copy-and-paste capability can be quite handy.

Right! This is another reason I like screen and... in fact even more
putty with screen. In konsole I need to use mouse to get the menu to
do copy and paste (or at least I wasn't bothered to investigate any
alternative solution, by default there is even no keyboard shortcut
for copy). In putty I just select the bit I need with a mouse and it
already is in the clipboard and right-click inserts anything you have
copied before. I just can't live without it now.


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Re: [opensuse] Serial terminal installation

2008-01-18 Thread James Knott
vasilis christaras wrote:
 It's a new system. No OS. I'm trying to install it from the opensuse DVD
 using a serial console.I can't even get past the boot loader screen of the 
 DVD.

   

Is that even possible?  I've certainly never heard of it.

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Re: [opensuse] SLES, openSuSE and release cycles... what's the plan?

2008-01-18 Thread Frank Steiner
Marcus Meissner wrote

 The scheduling decision when SLES 11 will happen have not been made.
 Rough lines are likely discussed already, but not down to my level.

Ok, so there might be hope that it will share the code base with
11.0 :-) 
 
 In general we try to also try capture Features in the Service Packs too, 
 
 Hmm.
 
 As for the feature things, perhaps this is something we should really
 look into doing for the Service Packs too.

You definitely do a lot with the service packs, also the latest hardware
drivers etc. But I guess for major upgrades like switching from tomcat 5.0
to 5.5 a SP isn't the right place... Not talking about the kernel features
like unionfs, gcc 3 - 4  or (and that's often very important for our 
developers) a glibc upgrade. That's what breaks everything :-)

 For SP2 we already update php5 to 5.2.latest for instance (but I am afraid
 for other features it is likely too late already).

We do appreciate that, no question! But I still hope for a continued 
2-year release cycle. And if you know some of the guys at higher levels 
who make those decisions, feel free to forward them my email as a 
(hopefully appreciated :-)) customer feedback.

 Crispin is unfortunately no longer with Novell...

Uh, yes, apparmor, I missed that this was him...

cu,
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[opensuse] Flash fixes for KDE / Konqueror released today

2008-01-18 Thread Marcus Meissner
Hi,

We have released fixes for kdebase3, kdelibs3 (sled10, 10.1-10.3) and
gtk-qt-engine (sled10, 10.1-10.2) today that make Flash Player work again
in konqueror.

Flash feels as stable as before the flashplayer security update to me.

(The kdebase3 patch is harmless / confusingly named fileshareset, one of
 the sub RPMs of kdebase3.)

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Re: [opensuse] java

2008-01-18 Thread Carlos F. Lange
On Thu January 17 2008 09:02:13 M9. wrote:
  Anyway I solve this always by downloading 64b java from sun and
  sett manualy my environment. It is not so big problem.

 Would you mind sharing the way you do this with us?
 I am busy for days now to get java working with a 64Bit Firefox...
 Blackdown works, but is somewhat outdated

Have a look at 
http://en.opensuse.org/How_To_use_Java_with_Firefox_on_64-bit_openSuSE_10.3

I still need to clean it up, but all the info is there to have a 
parallel version of Firefox 32bit with Java coexist in your 64b system.

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Re: [opensuse] Always mount a USB drive with NTFS-3G?

2008-01-18 Thread Gabriel .
On Jan 18, 2008 3:13 PM, Doctor Who [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a Western Digital 250GB USB drive formatted with NTFS.  I use
 it interchangeably with my openSUSE boxes and a Windows XP work
 laptop.

 When I plug it into my openSUSE laptop, it mounts fine and I can
 browse the contents (with Konqueror, for example).  But it does not
 let me drag files to the drive because it does not mount the drive
 with ntfs-3g support by default.

 Is it possible to have the drive mounted with ntfs-3g support
 automatically every time it's plugged in with it's own permanent mount
 point (like /mnt/wd/)?  If so, how?


Try with ntfs-config*

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http://packages.opensuse-community.org/index.jsp?searchTerm=ntfs-configdistro=openSUSE_103

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Re: [Kiwi-devel] [opensuse] openSUSE 10.3 and LTSP

2008-01-18 Thread CyberOrg
On Jan 18, 2008 8:23 PM, Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 The system did eventually come up with a GUI login. And I can ssh to it.

Glad you made it :)

 So things are looking up. I was just surprised that 'df' foes not exist.
 And that 'mount' lists nothing.

The image is about 150MB skeleton that has just enough juice to get
your LDM (LTSP Display Manager), once you log in you are using all the
resources on the server.


 Now that I get this far, I want to do more! Like mounting an NFS volume.
 Now the fun begins...


Have fun!

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Re: [Kiwi-devel] [opensuse] openSUSE 10.3 and LTSP

2008-01-18 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 19:44 +0530, CyberOrg wrote:
 On Jan 18, 2008 7:20 PM, Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Progress:
 
  I get the kernel to boot. It makes device nodes and then is doing the
  KIWI setup. It then complains that some things cannot be found.
 
  One odd thing it complains about is that the tftp server cannot be
  found. It is looking for 192.168.0.254. I changed the SERVER_IP
 
 It only reads /etc/sysconfig/kiwi-ltsp when creating images and
 configuring server, changing it after everything does not have any
 effect at all.

This I understood.

 grep for 192.168.0.254 in dhcpd.conf and
 /srv/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default or /srv/tftpboot/KIWI/*

It was on the kernel command line in /srv/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default.
After I changed that, it finds the tftp server. Then it is looking for
network config files. Which it does not find. So it waits 60 secs and
tries again. And again...

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Re: [opensuse] Latest xorg update is problematic

2008-01-18 Thread Philippe Andersson
G T Smith wrote:
 Currently with ...
 
 xorg-x11-server-7.2-30.11
 xorg-x11-devel-7.2-25
 xorg-x11-libs-7.2-25
 
 As Philippe ...
Just a silly question: have you restarted your X server (End current
session + Ctrl-Alt-Backspace) since applying the update packages ?

I did.

 
 and I have had NO problems with Eclipse on 10.2 (you are running 10.3,
 Philippe is on 10.2 and there are some differences between what Java
 versions are available )... so the issue is what if anything is
 different between what I am doing and what others are doing which is
 creating a problem...
 
 I have java 1.5.0 update 13-0.5 installed
Likewise on my laptop:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ java -version
java version 1.5.0_13
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_13-b05)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_13-b05, mixed mode, sharing)

On the other machine where I tested this, it's still an old 1.4.2:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ java -version
java version 1.4.2_16
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.2_16-b05)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2_16-b05, mixed mode)

Both exhibit exactly the same behaviour, eclipse crashes at startup with
the same error message.

 ...but I also have the
 swt_3_2-gtk version of the swt.jar file installed (not certain whether
 that would be relevant)...

So do I:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rpm -q -a | grep swt
libswt3-gtk2-3.2.1-24

So it seems it's not relevant.

HTH

Cheers. Bye.

Ph. A.

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RE: [opensuse] Compiz-Fusion + AIGLX + Mobility Radeon X1400 + Catalyst 8.1

2008-01-18 Thread Adam Sailer


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Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 12:50 PM
To: suse
Subject: Re: [opensuse] Compiz-Fusion + AIGLX + Mobility Radeon X1400 +
Catalyst 8.1

Adam Sailer wrote:
 Compiz-Fusion + AIGLX + Mobility Radeon X1400 + Catalyst 8.1
 
 Anyone successful with this or a similar configurations?
 
 Thank you,
 
 Adam

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Thank you, I'll give it another whack with the above info; the 8.1 driver,
just released today, is supposed to fix the resolution issues.

Adam

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[opensuse] KitchenSync

2008-01-18 Thread Chris Arnold
I use 10.3 with kde 3.5.7 and have a Moto Q that i want to sync contact etc. I 
have kitchensync installed along with the plugin-moto. It does not look like 
i am able to sync as nothing happens when i hit sync. I first started the 
app and made a group called Moto Q and then added a member, which is the moto 
sync plugin gave it a name and it also asks for a Device String, which i 
left blank as i do not know what is suppose to go there. Can someone help me 
sync my crap Q phone using kitchensync?
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[opensuse] Gimp and Firefox

2008-01-18 Thread Jim Sabatke
Every time I run gimp (latest 2.4, updated via Yast) firefox dies.

Does anyone have a clue what is going on, and hopefully a fix?

TIA,

Jim
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Re: [opensuse] MySQL 5 rpms for SuSE 9.3?

2008-01-18 Thread Ciro Iriarte
2008/1/17, Jonathan Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Wednesday 16 January 2008 19:49:07 Michal Marek wrote:
  Kevin Thorpe wrote:
   Does anyone know where I can get mysql version 5 for SuSE 9.3?
 
  There are 5.0 and 5.1 rpms for 10.0 in the buildservice:
  http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=mysqlbaseproject=SUSE%3ASL-10.
 0 , if you're lucky, it'll work on 9.3 too. If not, you can take the
  src.rpm and rebuild.

 I really wouldn't install RPMs built for 10.0 on 9.3 - you'll be heading
 for a world of pain. Rebuilding _might_ work but...

   I really should upgrade
 
  Definitely.

 Second this sentiment. An upgrade really shouldn't take all weekend.

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Packages for SLES9 should work fine:

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/database:/mysql51/SLES_9/

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Re: [opensuse] XOrg update and SWT apps

2008-01-18 Thread Philipp Thomas
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:46:07 +0100, Tamás Cservenák wrote:

 today i have applied (actually updater offered and i said 'yes') this update:
 xorg-x11-libs-7.2-103.2_103.4.i586.delta.rpm

 And since then, my primary tool (Eclipse Europa) is dead! Same happens
 on Sun JDK 1.6 and Sun JDK 1.5.

If you search the archive to this list, you'll see that this has been
discussed already. Seems that the latest security update for
xorg-x11-libs makes apps like eclipse stop working. Install the original
version of xorg-x11-libs from the installation DVD.

Philipp
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[opensuse] Auto update fails at evince

2008-01-18 Thread Yin T

I installed a fresh opensuse 10.3.  When the auto update indicated that there
were patches to be installed and it is executed, the installation process
fails when the installer tries to install evince.

It gives a conflict dialogbox saying:

No valid solution found with just resolvables of best architecture
  o. make a solver run with All possibilities.
texlive-bin has missing dependencies
  o. delete texlive-bin.
  o. Ignore this requirement just here.


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Re: [opensuse] Always mount a USB drive with NTFS-3G?

2008-01-18 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Friday 2008-01-18 at 14:22 -0500, Doctor Who wrote:


Thanks.  I installed the package successfully, but I don't see how it
helps to mount the drive with ntfs-3g.  According to the homepage, I
should see a box pop-up when I plug the drive in giving me the option
to be able to write to the drive, but that doesn't happen here.  I
*do* have ntfs-3g installed and can write to the drive if I mount it
manually from a console.

Any ideas?


Try creating an fstab line for it, using /dev/disk/by-id/... as the 
device node (it is independent of where it is plugged).


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Re: [opensuse] encrypting your home partition

2008-01-18 Thread Rick Smegal
On Friday January 18 2008 03:32:13 Wayne and Leanne Roberts wrote:
 Hi all

   Does/ has anybody used the encrypt your home partition feature ON SUSE
 10.3? How transparent is it in use? Any performance overheads? Any
 technical primers available?

 Thanks
 wayne
I selected this feature during installation on a Lenovo T61 laptop
and it just worked... no problems encountered thus far. I ran some
informal tests between encrypted and non-encrypted partiions and could
not see an appreciable difference in performance.
The wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptsetup
is a launching point for some basic background on the subject.

cheers,
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Re: [opensuse] Remove KDE Desktops

2008-01-18 Thread PerfectReign
On Thu, January 17, 2008 6:33 pm, Joe Sloan wrote:
 Chris Arnold wrote:
 Hello all! Using 10.3 and kde3. On the panel are 4 desktops. I
 want
 to remove those from the panel. I don't see a way to do it in look
 and feel module. How does someone remove those 4 desktops?

 Why on earth would you want to remove virtual desktops? I find them
 indispensable in my day to day work.

Heh - Like the CLI, I never use the virtual desktops.

I find them confusing.

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[opensuse] seamonkey bug?

2008-01-18 Thread Istvan Gabor
Hello:

I have openSUSE 10.3 with the latest seamonkey package 
seamonkey-1.1.7-7.1.
After having viewed the document with the print preview 
option I can't enter Preferences (Edit/Preferences), its window 
is just not opening.
Is this a known bug or my settings are bad?

TIA,
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[opensuse] Re: No sound in 10.3, but it work in 10.0

2008-01-18 Thread Lutz Maibaum
On Thursday 17 January 2008 18:33:16 Lutz Maibaum wrote:
 I cannot get my laptop to produce any sound under 10.3. However, it
 works flawlessly under 10.0, so I think the problem sits in front of the
 computer...

Just to follow up: I noticed some suspicious messages in my dmesg output: 

ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 5
PCI: setting IRQ 5 as level-triggered
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:1f.3[B] - Link [LNKB] - GSI 5 (level, low) - 
IRQ 5
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:1f.5[B] - Link [LNKB] - GSI 5 (level, low) - 
IRQ 5
ACPI: PCI interrupt for device :00:1f.5 disabled

The device 00:1f.5 is the sound card, according to lspci.

Does this mean that I have some kind of IRQ conflict? I tried to reboot 
with ACPI turned off, but that didn't seem to change anything.

  Lutz
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[opensuse] Compiz-Fusion + AIGLX + Mobility Radeon X1400 + Catalyst 8.1

2008-01-18 Thread Adam Sailer

Compiz-Fusion + AIGLX + Mobility Radeon X1400 + Catalyst 8.1

Anyone successful with this or a similar configurations?

Thank you,

Adam
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RE: [opensuse] encrypting your home partition

2008-01-18 Thread Wayne and Leanne Roberts
Thanks all for the reply.



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RE: [opensuse] BASH .bashrc su question (ot)

2008-01-18 Thread Kain, Becki (B.)
I have a very cute door thing that says 'beware of dog, and the cat is
not very trustworthy either'


-Original Message-
From: Tom Patton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 12:22 AM
To: opensuse@opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [opensuse] BASH .bashrc su question


On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 19:49 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
 On Thursday 17 January 2008 19:29, Tom Patton wrote:
  
 
 You think my cat's going to do something nefarious?
 
Can you _really_ trust a cat???
;-)
Tom

 
  Tom in NM
 
 
 RRS

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Re: [opensuse] Grub Error 21

2008-01-18 Thread Dave Barton

 Original Message 
From: Chee How Chua [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat 19 Jan 2008 04:01:07 EST


On Jan 18, 2008 10:26 AM, James Knott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Check on the boot loader installation tab, to see where it's booting from.


David, can you post your /etc/grub.conf here? I'm curious as to where
you installed your boot loader.

I'm guessing the complication for Dave (OP) is on the location of the
boot loader?

I'm not exactly sure how GRUB works but Dave's /etc/grub.conf reads:
setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0) (hd1,5)
quit

which seems like the boot loader is installed in MBR of sda but it is
trying to load GRUB from sdb6? Probably YaST will show a different
story. But if this is really the case, will it cause a problem to have
stage1 on one disk and stage2 on another?

Mine is:
setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0) (hd0,4)
quit

Quite straightforward - I installed in MBR of sda and load GRUB from
sda5. All within the same disk.


OK, I believe I have tried just about every GRUB alternative option and 
come up blank every time. In desperation, I used fixmbr from the XP CD 
and deleted all partitions from the second drive. Started a totally 
clean 10.3 install and accepted the default options offered. This should 
be the easiest configuration for the installer to handle, but no, on 
first reboot I am back to Error 21 and my GRUB files now show:


/boot/grub/device.map
(fd0)   /dev/fd0
(hd0)   /dev/sda
(hd1)   /dev/sdb

---

/boot/grub/menu.lst
# Modified by YaST2. Last modification on Sat Jan 19 06:58:41 EST 2008
default 0
timeout 8
gfxmenu (hd1,1)/boot/message

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux###
title openSUSE 10.3
root (hd1,1)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22.5-31-default 
root=/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_ST3250824A_5ND3YLCZ-part2 vga=0x317 
resume=/dev/sdb1 splash=silent showopts

initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.22.5-31-default

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: windows###
title Windows
rootnoverify (hd1,1)
chainloader (hd0,0)+1

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: floppy###
title Floppy
rootnoverify (hd1,1)
chainloader (fd0)+1

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: failsafe###
title Failsafe -- openSUSE 10.3
root (hd1,1)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22.5-31-default 
root=/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_ST3250824A_5ND3YLCZ-part2 vga=normal 
showopts ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off noresume nosmp noapic maxcpus=0 
edd=off 3

initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.22.5-31-default

---

/etc/grub.conf
setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0) (hd1,1)
quit

---


In the past I have done numerous installs with Win on the first drive 
and Linux on the second and never had anything like this problem. 
Unfortunately, I don't have access to another machine with this 
configuration to check against.


My real concern is that I was just about to set up one of my production 
boxes with this same configuration, but in view of this issue I must now 
seriously consider an alternative to openSUSE.


Regards

Dave



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Re: [opensuse] Compiz-Fusion + AIGLX + Mobility Radeon X1400 + Catalyst 8.1

2008-01-18 Thread David C. Rankin

Adam Sailer wrote:

Compiz-Fusion + AIGLX + Mobility Radeon X1400 + Catalyst 8.1

Anyone successful with this or a similar configurations?

Thank you,

Adam


Yes,

	10.3, compiz and ATI Mobility Radeon 9700. You need to use the 8.43 
driver, the 8.44 driver has resolution problems, but does fix other 
bugs. Install compiz, but DO NOT install compiz-manager. Install and 
use fusion-icon to start compiz. If you can't find the 8.43 driver mail 
me privately and I'll provide you with a link to download the 10.3 
driver (14Meg). I'd post it globally, but I only have 128k upstream at home.


	Read the install instructions and follow them: 
http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Main_Page. You will need to alter a 
couple of links to libraries to get around a SONAME driver bug, that is 
fixed in the 8.44 driver, but as I said above the 8.44 driver has 
resolution problems. You need to configure your libGL and LibIndirectGL 
library links as follows:


lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2007-12-28 16:32 /usr/lib/libGL.so - 
libGL.so.1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 2008-01-18 11:49 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 - 
libGL.so.1.2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 2008-01-18 11:49 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 - 
/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 391344 2007-09-21 20:34 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2.sav

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 440676 2007-09-21 20:34 /usr/lib/libIndirectGL.so.1.2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 2007-11-09 16:19 
/usr/lib/libIndirectGL.so.1.sav - libIndirectGL.so.1.2


	After you install the 8.43 driver, make sure fglrx loads on boot. (see 
the instructions on whitelisting the driver)


	Your /etc/X11/xorg.conf will look similar to the following. Pay 
attention to the Section Module, Section Device, Section 
ServerLayout, Section DRI, and Section Extensions


# /.../
# SaX generated X11 config file
# Created on: 2007-11-06T23:32:16-0600.
#
# Version: 8.1
# Contact: Marcus Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2005
# Contact: SaX-User list 
https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/sax-users

#
# Automatically generated by [ISaX] (8.1)
# PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE!
#

Section Files
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/local
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Type1
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/URW
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Speedo
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/PEX
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/cyrillic
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/latin2/misc:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/latin2/75dpi:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/latin2/100dpi:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/latin2/Type1
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/latin7/75dpi:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/baekmuk:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/japanese:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/kwintv
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/truetype
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/uni:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/CID
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/ucs/misc:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/ucs/75dpi:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/ucs/100dpi:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/hellas/misc:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/hellas/75dpi:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/hellas/100dpi:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/hellas/Type1
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc/sgi:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/xtest
  FontPath /opt/kde3/share/fonts
  InputDevices /dev/gpmdata
  InputDevices /dev/input/mice
EndSection

Section ServerFlags
  Option   AllowMouseOpenFail on
  Option   IgnoreABI on
EndSection

Section Module
  Load dbe
  Load type1
  Load freetype
  Load extmod
  Load glx
  Load dri
EndSection

Section InputDevice
  Driver   kbd
  Identifier   Keyboard[0]
  Option   Protocol Standard
  Option   XkbLayout us
  Option   XkbModel microsoftpro
  Option   XkbRules xfree86
EndSection


Section InputDevice
  Driver   mouse
  Identifier   Mouse[1]
  Option   Buttons 5
  Option   Device /dev/input/mice
  Option   Name Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical
  Option   Protocol explorerps/2
  Option   Vendor Sysp
  Option   ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection

Section InputDevice
  Driver   synaptics
  Identifier   Mouse[3]
  Option   AccelFactor 0.1
  Option   BottomEdge 650
  Option   Buttons 5
  Option   CircScrollDelta 0.1
  Option   CircScrollTrigger 2
  Option   CircularScrolling 1
  Option   Device /dev/input/mice
  Option   EdgeMotionMaxSpeed 15
  Option   EdgeMotionMinSpeed 15
  Option   Emulate3Buttons on
  Option   EmulateMidButtonTime 75
  Option   FingerHigh 17
  Option   FingerLow 14
  Option   HorizScrollDelta 20
  Option   InputFashion Mouse
  Option   LeftEdge 120
  Option   MaxSpeed 3
  Option   MaxTapMove 110
  Option   MaxTapTime 180
  Option   MinSpeed 0.2
  

Re: [opensuse] Problem with codec installer in opensuse

2008-01-18 Thread Yin T

I also tried to use another link to install the codecs. 
http://opensuse-community.org/Restricted_Formats/10.3 as suggested by Benji
W

I'm still getting the same problem.

The first dialogbox presents the following items to be installed on my
system:

ffmpeg
flash-player
gst-fluendo-mp3
java-1_5_0-sun-plugin
libdvdcss
libxine1
  libdc1394_control.so.12
  libraw1394.so.8
  flac
  libcdio
   libamrnb.so.3
  libfaac.so.0
  libamrwb.so.3
  libavutil.so.49
  libpostproc.so.51
  libavcodec.so.51
  liba52.so.0
  libogg = 1.1
  libvorbis =1.0.1
  speex = 1.1
  alsa = 0.9
  libtheora = 0.9_1.0alpha3
  libffmpeg0
totem
  libavahi-common.so.3
  libavahi-client.so.3
w32codec-all

The conflict dialogbox shows:

No valid solution found with just resolvables of best architecture.
  o. Make a solver run with All possibilities.
speex cannot be installed due to missing dependencies.
  o. Install libspeex although it would change the vendor
  o. do not install speex
  o. ignore this requirement just here

Thanks




Yin T wrote:
 
 I performed a fresh install of opensuse 10.3 and proceeded to go to
 http://software.opensuse.org/search for the codecs
 
 I selected and executed Codec-Audio-Video.ymp.  During the installation
 process I received a dialogbox with the following major message and assoc
 options.
 
 No valid solution found with just resolvables of best architecture
 
 and 
 
 speex cannot be installed due to missing dependencies.
 
 

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Re: [opensuse] Finding a lot of Cache's

2008-01-18 Thread Wolfgang Woehl
Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2008 Carl Spitzer:
  find ./ -type d -name [cC]ache -print

for i in `find ./ -type d -name [cC]ache -print`;do du -sh $i;done

 ./.kde/share/apps/amarok/albumcovers/cache
 ./.gftp/cache
 ./.java/deployment/cache
 ./OpenOffice.org/user/registry/cache
 ./.mozilla/default/6mfyxp94.slt/Cache
 ./.mozilla/firefox/wn3ea5bj.default/Cache
 ./.evolution/mail/pop/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/cache
 many more . . .
 ./.evolution/cache
 ./.openoffice.org2/user/uno_packages/cache
 ./.openoffice.org2/user/registry/cache
 ./.adobe/Acrobat/7.0/Cache
 ./.macromedia/Flash_Player/#SharedObjects/HHPWQGBG/localhost/cwsiv/.mozilla
/default/6mfyxp94.slt/Cache ./.ooo-2.0-pre/user/uno_packages/cache
 ./.ooo-2.0-pre/user/registry/cache

But I think most of these would be small.

 Can I safely clean these out?  I am looking fow where I nearly filled up
 a 15 gig /home.

cd; du | sort -n
or
kdirstat
can be useful.

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Re: [opensuse] Latest xorg update is problematic

2008-01-18 Thread G T Smith
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Tamás Cservenák wrote:
 Same here,
 
 openSUSE 10.3, on 32bit.
 
 All SWT based applications stopped working! My biggest problem is my
 worktool, eclipse! Yesterday was all ok, today it simply died with
 error Philippe described.
 
 The solution was, that i restored the packages updated today with
 following versions:
 xorg-x11-devel-7.2-103.2.i586.rpm
 xorg-x11-libs-7.2-103.2.i586.rpm
 xorg-x11-server-7.2-143.6.i586.rpm
 xorg-x11-server-extra-7.2-143.6.i586.rpm
 
 In previous mail, i noted only libs package as cause by mistake.
 
 ~t~
 
 On Jan 18, 2008 3:47 PM, Philippe Andersson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello list,

 Since installing the latest xorg updates for OpenSuSE 10.2, some
 applications fail to start. One example I was able to verify is eclipse
 (ver. 3.2). Here is the error message:

 cut--
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ The program 'Eclipse' received an X Window System error.
 This probably reflects a bug in the program.
 The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'.
   (Details: serial 582 error_code 11 request_code 144 minor_code 5)
   (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)
 cut--

 Other reportedly affected applications are 'VLC' and 'xchm'. I was not
 able to verify that.

 The offending packages are:

 cut--
 xorg-x11-server-7.2-30.11 Fri 18 Jan 2008 08:39:33 CET
 xorg-x11-devel-7.2-25 Fri 18 Jan 2008 08:39:08 CET
 xorg-x11-libs-7.2-25  Fri 18 Jan 2008 08:39:00 CET
 cut--

 Similar packages were distributed this morning via apt-get for Ubuntu
 users and have the same detrimental effects.

 Is anyone here aware of this issue ?

 Ph. A.

 --

 *Philippe Andersson*

snip

Hmm... I am using eclipse 3.2.2 on SuSE 10.2 with the update and it is
running without problems for me (so far)... It might be worth specifying
JRE version (and whether it is the SuSE RPM version) and and whether
Eclipse is the SuSE RPM version...

I looked at bugzilla report and did the update just to check things out,
rebooted and have had no problems so far. However, both JRE and Eclipse
are SuSE RPM versions, and  I am also not using 1.6 This may be where
the problem lies, ... It might be worth updating the bugzilla report
with these details...


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Re: [opensuse] Latest xorg update is problematic

2008-01-18 Thread Chuck Davis
Guys:

Just as a point of interest, I upgraded this a.m. and restarted the X
server.  Java as below is having no problem that I have detected.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ java -version
java version 1.6.0_10-ea
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_10-ea-b09)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 11.0-b09, mixed mode)

Chuck

On 1/18/08, G T Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Philippe Andersson wrote:
  G T Smith wrote:
  Currently with ...
 
  xorg-x11-server-7.2-30.11
  xorg-x11-devel-7.2-25
  xorg-x11-libs-7.2-25
  As Philippe ...
  Just a silly question: have you restarted your X server (End current
  session + Ctrl-Alt-Backspace) since applying the update packages ?
 

 Not a silly question... I use enlightenment and the config is a bit
 non-standard so I rebooted rather restart X... (actually come to think
 about it the last time I tried the ctrl-alt-backspace with this variant
 of e17 the result was a little peculiar... )


  I did.
 
  and I have had NO problems with Eclipse on 10.2 (you are running 10.3,
  Philippe is on 10.2 and there are some differences between what Java
  versions are available )... so the issue is what if anything is
  different between what I am doing and what others are doing which is
  creating a problem...
 
  I have java 1.5.0 update 13-0.5 installed
  Likewise on my laptop:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ java -version
  java version 1.5.0_13
  Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_13-b05)
  Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_13-b05, mixed mode, sharing)
 
  On the other machine where I tested this, it's still an old 1.4.2:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ java -version
  java version 1.4.2_16
  Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.2_16-b05)
  Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2_16-b05, mixed mode)

 ditto..

 
  Both exhibit exactly the same behaviour, eclipse crashes at startup with
  the same error message.
 
  ...but I also have the
  swt_3_2-gtk version of the swt.jar file installed (not certain whether
  that would be relevant)...
 
  So do I:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rpm -q -a | grep swt
  libswt3-gtk2-3.2.1-24

 different I have also

 eclipse-swt-3_2-gtk2-3.2-0.pm.2



 
  So it seems it's not relevant.
 

 it still may not be

  HTH
 
  Cheers. Bye.
 
  Ph. A.
 


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Re: [opensuse] Always mount a USB drive with NTFS-3G?

2008-01-18 Thread James Knott
Doctor Who wrote:
 I have a Western Digital 250GB USB drive formatted with NTFS.  I use
 it interchangeably with my openSUSE boxes and a Windows XP work
 laptop.

 When I plug it into my openSUSE laptop, it mounts fine and I can
 browse the contents (with Konqueror, for example).  But it does not
 let me drag files to the drive because it does not mount the drive
 with ntfs-3g support by default.

 Is it possible to have the drive mounted with ntfs-3g support
 automatically every time it's plugged in with it's own permanent mount
 point (like /mnt/wd/)?  If so, how?

 Thanks!
   
Try formatting it with Yast Partitioner and specifying a mount point. 
This will create an FSTAB entry, that always causes it to mount correctly.

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Re: [opensuse] Gimp and Firefox

2008-01-18 Thread Sunny
On Jan 18, 2008 8:19 PM, Jim Sabatke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Every time I run gimp (latest 2.4, updated via Yast) firefox dies.

 Does anyone have a clue what is going on, and hopefully a fix?


I do not know, and most probably wouldn't be able to help you, but if
you follow my advice, you will be more likely to be helped by someone
else.

Please, start firefox from a terminal window. Do the same with gimp.
File a bug case with the output of both windows after the crash
occurs. Also, provide which version of opensuse you use, and which
architecture. Version of firefox. How you install it - yast or from
mozilla.org.

Also, when you have time, read the article bellow, in my experience it
extremely increases the chances to receive answers and solutions:
http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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Even the most advanced equipment in the hands of the ignorant is just
a pile of scrap.
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Re: [Kiwi-devel] [opensuse] openSUSE 10.3 and LTSP

2008-01-18 Thread CyberOrg
On Jan 18, 2008 7:20 PM, Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Progress:

 I get the kernel to boot. It makes device nodes and then is doing the
 KIWI setup. It then complains that some things cannot be found.

 One odd thing it complains about is that the tftp server cannot be
 found. It is looking for 192.168.0.254. I changed the SERVER_IP

It only reads /etc/sysconfig/kiwi-ltsp when creating images and
configuring server, changing it after everything does not have any
effect at all.

grep for 192.168.0.254 in dhcpd.conf and
/srv/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default or /srv/tftpboot/KIWI/*
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Re: [Kiwi-devel] [opensuse] openSUSE 10.3 and LTSP

2008-01-18 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
Progress:

I get the kernel to boot. It makes device nodes and then is doing the
KIWI setup. It then complains that some things cannot be found.

One odd thing it complains about is that the tftp server cannot be
found. It is looking for 192.168.0.254. I changed the SERVER_IP
in /etc/sysconfig to what I want. 192.168.0.254 does not exist in the
file. So I wonder where it is getting this from. Why is it using the
tftp server after the kernel boots and after the initrd is loaded? I
though all the rest was in the NBD image served by the nbd-server.


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Re: [opensuse] Problem with codec installer in opensuse

2008-01-18 Thread Benji Weber
On 18/01/2008, Yin T [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I selected and executed Codec-Audio-Video.ymp.  During the installation
 process I received a dialogbox with the following major message and assoc
 options.

 No valid solution found with just resolvables of best architecture

 and

 speex cannot be installed due to missing dependencies.

Do you have the same problem with the ones at
http://opensuse-community.org/Restricted_Formats/10.3 ? If so please
post the full text from the conflict dialogue.

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Re: [opensuse] No sound in 10.3, but it work in 10.0

2008-01-18 Thread Chee How Chua
On Jan 18, 2008 2:42 PM, Lutz Maibaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I wasn't. Now I added myself to the group:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ cat /etc/group | grep audio
 audio:x:17:lutz
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ groups
 users dialout audio video

 but the machine still doesn't make a sound. Also, if I login as root in
 kdm, there is still no sound.

 Thanks for your help,

   Lutz

I also had a similar problem when I upgraded from 10.2 to 10.3.

What I did was to modify the file /etc/modprobe.d/sound

This file contained options snd-hda-intel enable=1 index=0

I changed it to options snd-hda-intel model=auto enable=1 index=0

Don't know why, but it worked for me. Hope it'll work for you.

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Re: [opensuse] KDE4 Live CD from openSUSE

2008-01-18 Thread Ken Schneider
Basil Chupin pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
 Ken Schneider wrote:
 Basil Chupin pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
  
 jdd wrote:

 Basil Chupin a écrit :

  
 Then you are not 'playing the game', are you?
 
 yes, he do
   
 How?


 But i didnt burn to cd and try that way.

 The whole idea of making an ISO file available for the plebs to
 download IS to have them download it and normally burn it to a CD! :-)
 
 virtual bos and vmware can moiunt an iso image as a cd/dvd, so ite's
 identical.
   
 Why don't you ask how many of the people in this forum are using
 virtual bos (whatever that it is) and vmware?
 

 You want thousands of people replying to this post?
 
 I really don't care, Ken, how many persons reply. This forum is not
 controlled by 'anal-retentives', and as many who wish to reply are
 allowed to do so. You know that as well.
 
  I have used
 VirtualBox for a couple of months having switched from VMware.
 
 Congratulations on using VirtualBox for so long - but I haven't got the
 foggiest what VirtualBox is. (Is it a feature on some porno. site for
 frustrated males like blow-up dolls?)

I don't know myself but since you seem to be knowledgable about porno
sites you tell me.

 
 VMware I am aware of but, as many thousands of others I am sure, I do
 not have it installed because it costs an arm and a leg to purchase.

There are free versions available and it has been mentioned numerous
times on this list.

 
  And you
 have been on this list long enough to know what VMware is, no?
 
 See above - I aware of VMware.
 
  In any
 case you know what Google does so use it.
 
 And what if a person doesn't give a tinker's cuss about Google? (I -
 and others - don't use Google.)
 
 The world doesn't revolve around Google.

Google is a tool for finding information. Talk about being anal
retentive. You express yourself in this case as being too lazy to use
tools at your disposal to find answers.

 
 I use this forum (opensuse@opensuse.org) for a good reason, have done so
 for some time as you intimate,

It's intimidate. Look it up in google dictionary.

 and I like to think that if I have a
 query, and ask for an answer to it here, then I would get a sensible and
 reasonable response.
 
 
 
 I ran a couple of BBSs back in late '80s/early '90s and so have had to
 investigate and then answer some interesting (for want of a better
 expression) questions about the problems users were having accessing the
 BBSs (eg, My setup is OK and it is the BBS which is causing my problems!)
 
 If I ask a question in this forum, I would have checked out, beforehand,
 to the best of my ability, the answer to my question/query. (OK,
 occasionally, out of laziness, I fail to do a proper check and stuff up
 :-(  .)

As is the case here regarding VirtualBox, a virtual PC in software form.

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Re: [opensuse] Latest xorg update is problematic

2008-01-18 Thread G T Smith
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Philippe Andersson wrote:
 G T Smith wrote:
 Currently with ...

 xorg-x11-server-7.2-30.11
 xorg-x11-devel-7.2-25
 xorg-x11-libs-7.2-25
 As Philippe ...
 Just a silly question: have you restarted your X server (End current
 session + Ctrl-Alt-Backspace) since applying the update packages ?
 

Not a silly question... I use enlightenment and the config is a bit
non-standard so I rebooted rather restart X... (actually come to think
about it the last time I tried the ctrl-alt-backspace with this variant
of e17 the result was a little peculiar... )


 I did.
 
 and I have had NO problems with Eclipse on 10.2 (you are running 10.3,
 Philippe is on 10.2 and there are some differences between what Java
 versions are available )... so the issue is what if anything is
 different between what I am doing and what others are doing which is
 creating a problem...

 I have java 1.5.0 update 13-0.5 installed
 Likewise on my laptop:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ java -version
 java version 1.5.0_13
 Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_13-b05)
 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_13-b05, mixed mode, sharing)
 
 On the other machine where I tested this, it's still an old 1.4.2:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ java -version
 java version 1.4.2_16
 Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.2_16-b05)
 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2_16-b05, mixed mode)

ditto..

 
 Both exhibit exactly the same behaviour, eclipse crashes at startup with
 the same error message.
 
 ...but I also have the
 swt_3_2-gtk version of the swt.jar file installed (not certain whether
 that would be relevant)...
 
 So do I:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rpm -q -a | grep swt
 libswt3-gtk2-3.2.1-24

different I have also

eclipse-swt-3_2-gtk2-3.2-0.pm.2



 
 So it seems it's not relevant.
 

it still may not be

 HTH
 
 Cheers. Bye.
 
 Ph. A.
 


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[opensuse] Always mount a USB drive with NTFS-3G?

2008-01-18 Thread Doctor Who
I have a Western Digital 250GB USB drive formatted with NTFS.  I use
it interchangeably with my openSUSE boxes and a Windows XP work
laptop.

When I plug it into my openSUSE laptop, it mounts fine and I can
browse the contents (with Konqueror, for example).  But it does not
let me drag files to the drive because it does not mount the drive
with ntfs-3g support by default.

Is it possible to have the drive mounted with ntfs-3g support
automatically every time it's plugged in with it's own permanent mount
point (like /mnt/wd/)?  If so, how?

Thanks!
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Re: [opensuse] Support for NIC RTL8168 Graphic Adapter Intel G33 (Compiz-Fusion)?

2008-01-18 Thread Chee How Chua
On Jan 18, 2008 10:36 PM, Greg Freemyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you look at netstat -i (iirc) does it show bytes sent, but none received.

 I had that issue on one of my MBs.  It indicates that interrupts are
 not working.  I had to boot with the -msi option I think.

 You can find details of what I did in Novell's bugzilla.  I don't have
 too many I submitted.

 Good Luck
 Greg
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Congratulations on getting it to work. Too bad it's not the same NIC
(https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=287017).

I don't really fancy holding a new machine for four months before I
get its NIC working. Four months is a long time in the IT world. If
only I can get some definitive indications that say it'll work...

Thanks anyway =)

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Re: [opensuse] Always mount a USB drive with NTFS-3G?

2008-01-18 Thread Doctor Who
On Jan 18, 2008 3:25 PM, Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 The Friday 2008-01-18 at 14:22 -0500, Doctor Who wrote:

  Thanks.  I installed the package successfully, but I don't see how it
  helps to mount the drive with ntfs-3g.  According to the homepage, I
  should see a box pop-up when I plug the drive in giving me the option
  to be able to write to the drive, but that doesn't happen here.  I
  *do* have ntfs-3g installed and can write to the drive if I mount it
  manually from a console.
 
  Any ideas?

 Try creating an fstab line for it, using /dev/disk/by-id/... as the
 device node (it is independent of where it is plugged).


Not sure what you mean here...what would that look like?  Would I need
to create a name for it myself like /dev/disk/by-id/wd-usb or do I get
the name from /var/log/messages as it's detected, or something else
entirely?

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Re: [opensuse] Add variables to standard output for

2008-01-18 Thread Henne Vogelsang
Hi,

On Friday, January 18, 2008 at 11:52:35, Dirk Moolman wrote:

 Ok, I don't know how to word my question properly. I am writing a
 script that greps for a string (for a command that has multiple lines of
 output - the finger command)
 
 My problem:   I want to take the standard output (1) from a grep
 command, but I also want to add my own values to the resulting line.
 Let's use a simple example:
 
 My script:
 ---
 for i in `sort /etc/passwd | cut -f1 -d:`
 do
   finger $i | grep -i last
 done
 
 
 The output will look like this:
 Last login Mon Jan 14 11:23 (SAST) on 39 from 163.197.208.90
 
 BUT, I want to add the user's login to the lines above, for example:
 
 $i: Last login Fri Jan 18 09:32 (SAST) on 57 from 163.197.212.133

for i in `sort /etc/passwd | cut -f1 -d:`
do
  if blubb=`finger $i | grep Last`; then
echo $i: $blubb;
  fi
done

Henne

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