Re: [opensuse-factory] update another partition possible?

2008-01-26 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Wednesday 2008-01-16 at 09:53 -0200, Leonardo Chiquitto wrote:


Carlos E. R. wrote:



I wonder if it is possible to update a partition containing factory (10.3
beta, actually) while the running system (different system version)
resides in another partition.




 It is possible with a simple chroot(1). I run SLED10-SP1 daily, but have
a separated partition with openSUSE-Factory, for development purposes.
 Assuming that the openSUSE installation is on /dev/sda2, you can use
the following script (you'll probably have to tweak it to fit your environment):


#!/bin/bash

if ! grep -q /dev/sda2 /proc/mounts; then
   mount /dev/sda2 /opensuse
fi
for part in proc sys dev; do
   if ! grep -q /opensuse/$part /proc/mounts; then
   mount --bind /$part /opensuse/$part
   fi
done

cp -f /etc/resolv.conf /opensuse/etc/resolv.conf
chroot /opensuse


Here I assume I would insert the update procedure.



umount /opensuse/proc
umount /opensuse/sys
umount /opensuse/dev
umount /opensuse



I still have not tested this procedure on my factory partition, but I used 
it as part of the recovery procedure of an old system, sucessfully, so I 
must say thank you :-)



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Re: [opensuse-factory] broken mirrors again?

2008-01-26 Thread Sid Boyce

Viljo Mustonen wrote:

Felix Miata kirjoitti:

I tried two different mirrors, gwdg.de  mirrors.kernel.org. On both I get
the same failure:

Unable to create repository from URL
'http://ftp-1.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source'.

Details: Valid metadata not found at specified URL(s). History: - File
/var/cache/zypp/raw/openSUSE-FACTORY 11.0YmzbBQ/content.key doesn't contain
public key data.

Try again always fails.


I have got same type of error also from
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/
every day on this week.



I updated 2 boxes this week from the above URL, the last one yesterday 
(Friday). One day earlier in the week, a third box failed with the 
Unable to create repository from URL on download.opensuse.org and I 
had to use ftp-1.gwdg.de Apart from the usual conflicts with several 
packages, mostly -devel that couldn't be installed, they're all working 
fine.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] broken mirrors again?

2008-01-26 Thread Magnus Boman
Sid,

On Sun, 2008-01-27 at 00:47 +, Sid Boyce wrote:
 Viljo Mustonen wrote:
  Felix Miata kirjoitti:
  I tried two different mirrors, gwdg.de  mirrors.kernel.org. On both I get
  the same failure:
 
  Unable to create repository from URL
  'http://ftp-1.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source'.
 
  Details: Valid metadata not found at specified URL(s). History: - File
  /var/cache/zypp/raw/openSUSE-FACTORY 11.0YmzbBQ/content.key doesn't contain
  public key data.
 
  Try again always fails.
 
  I have got same type of error also from
  http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/
  every day on this week.
  
 
 I updated 2 boxes this week from the above URL, the last one yesterday 
 (Friday). One day earlier in the week, a third box failed with the 
 Unable to create repository from URL on download.opensuse.org and I 
 had to use ftp-1.gwdg.de Apart from the usual conflicts with several 
 packages, mostly -devel that couldn't be installed, they're all working 
 fine.

Yeah, there are no issues upgrading an existing install if you already
had the repos registered. The issue is when you want do a new install.

 Regards
 Sid.

Cheers,
Magnus

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Re: [opensuse] KDE4- where system:/ media:/ sysinfo:/ ???

2008-01-26 Thread Rajko M.
On Friday 25 January 2008 02:49:53 pm Andrei Verovski (aka MacGuru) wrote:
 Hi !

 I have just installed KDE4, basically works fine, but I see 2 problems.

 1) Special URLs like system:/, media:/, sysinfo:/.do not work anymore

 May be I have missed to install something, or these URLs are not yet
 supported in KDE4 ?

Last time I checked they weren't supported, but if KDE team keep the speed it 
will come very soon. 

 2) It is impossible to use any other icon theme exept Oxygen and KDE
 Classic. Does it mean icon themes have to be rearranged in order to support
 KDE4?

That much is available right now. 

 Thanks in advance for any suggestion(s)

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Re: [opensuse] Firefox 32b

2008-01-26 Thread Wolfgang Rosenauer

Hi,

Teruel de Campo MD schrieb:

ref: opensuse 10.3 64b
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128
SUSE/2.0.0.11-3.1 Firefox/2.0.0.11

I would like to try firefox 32b in opensuse 64b.

1. I can download it from mozilla.org and run it.

2. I can also install it from one of the rpm from the repository

Q: do I have to remove firfox 64 in either of both options?
Of course I will delete the present ~/.mozilla folder (well just rename
it)


The .mozilla/firefox directory is usually no issue when it comes to 
architecture.
If you download from mozilla.com you can install firefox at any location 
 you like and can have it installed in addition to the system provided 
one. You have to care that the right firefox is starting though.

If you install an RPM it doesn't work to have them parallel installed.
(Actually only the link /usr/bin/firefox would conflict in both 
packages, so if you know what you are doing you can have them installed 
both).



Q should I use #1 or #2


I'd go for #2 but probably I'm biased on that. You should just be aware 
that the openSUSE RPMs are a bit better integrated into the openSUSE 
environment and carry some patches to achieve that.


Wolfgang
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Re: [opensuse] Root antivir ?.

2008-01-26 Thread Erik Jakobsen

M9. wrote:




As i thought, it tries to connect to a server...
Best thing to get rid of this, is update your java to 1.6, and then
update alternatives as root, as there is also the bug that the updating
is set to manual.
If you want to knowhow to do this, look at bug:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=348430


I now have updated to java 1.6. I tested if it was ok, by entering a 
page, that neded java.

It succeded, but not the antivir-gui:

# ./antivir-gui
libxcb: WARNING! Program tries to unlock a connection without having 
acquired

   a lock first, which indicates a programming error.
   There will be no further warnings about this issue.
libxcb: WARNING! Program tries to lock an already locked connection,
   which indicates a programming error.
   There will be no further warnings about this issue.

So the subject persists.
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Re: [opensuse] USB to ATA IDE Adapter, howto boot from it?

2008-01-26 Thread Philipp Thomas
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:22:04 -0800, John Andersen wrote:

Say he has Windows on the USB device.  Then what?  You expect that
to boot with linux drivers?

Please get the context right. I answered to Aaron, not the OP, because
it's not necessary to compile in drivers. 

I see no reason to expect Windows or Solaris to run with Linux drivers
found in the initrd.

That is a totally different thing to which I said nothing! No Linux
driver will help there, in fact no driver at all will help there if your
BIOS doesn't support booting from USB media.

Philipp
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Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux

2008-01-26 Thread M. Fioretti
On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 09:48:20 AM -0500, Aaron Kulkis
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 cfr the Autocad paragraph and links in the second part of:
 http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/focus_format_history/

 There are industry standard file formats for CAD/CAM, and
 AutoCad can export and import to those formats.

of course, but the problem is with _past_ files. After you have been
tricked for years to save millions of files in the proprietary format,
converting them is a huge undertaking. Same with .doc, .xls etc,
really. In my opinion, the _real_ size of the problem is much smaller
than Microsoft, Autocad and similar companies make it appear, but that
is a separate, off topic thread so let's not go there.

In practice, to stay on topic, there is little doubt that many
businesses don't (even try to) use Linux just because they are or feel
locked by proprietary formats. And that the real or perceived effort
of converting away from those formats will continue to be very hard to
justify to managers, stock holders, etc... until such businesses are
told if you want to get one single buck in government contracts from
now on, you must commit to only use non proprietary formats like ODF
etc... in those contracts, period. The avalanche effect at that point
would be enough to definitely protect Linux and make much easier for
everybody else to switch when they want.

Practically nobody bothers what sw he or she is running, as long as
their digital documents and communications aren't threatened. Selling
the beauty of modifying and sharing source code to a world which does
NOT want to program is a useless and hopeless mission, IMO.

Marco

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Re: [opensuse] Open Source Graphics Cards

2008-01-26 Thread Dave Howorth
This thread seems been have been hijacked and taken OT. Is there any
chance of returning it on-topic?

In the past I've bought various brands of card, knowing them to have
proprietary drivers because the received wisdom has been that that's the
only way to get good solid performance. I love to buy hardware that
actively supports OSS but so far I don't think I've seen any
suggestions.

My summary of the on-topic content is that Intel produce chipsets with
OSS drivers but no cards are [yet?] available. Is there any better news?

Thanks, Dave
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Re: [opensuse] Difference between Yast-Group Mgmt. and groupadd

2008-01-26 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Friday 2008-01-25 at 22:44 -0600, David C. Rankin wrote:


Patrick Shanahan wrote:



 a guess from scanning the man pages (which *are* available), groupadd
 defaults to disabling the account.  I said a guess.


And, from where did you glean your guess old wise one??


:-)

Perhaps:


   -p, --password password
 Encrypted  password as returned by crypt(3) for the new 
account. The default is to disable the

  account.


?


 passwd(5) has some more info, but dispersed:

These days many people run some version of the shadow password suite,
where /etc/passwd has asterisks (*) instead of encrypted passwords,
and the encrypted passwords are in /etc/shadow which is readable by
the superuser only.

 So, * is for encripted passwords in /etc/shadow

The field descriptions are:
...
 password the encrypted user password, an asterisk (*), or the
 letter 'x'.  (See pwconv(8) for an explanation of 'x'.)

So, there is more in pwconv(8). [...] No, I don't find any reference to 
!,* etc. Only 'x':


This value indicates that the password for the user is already in
/etc/shadow and should not be modified.

So, I guess that ... No, I can't guess what is the difference betweeen 
'*' and 'x', and no idea about '!'.






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[opensuse] Re: No VGA Input

2008-01-26 Thread Donald D Henson
Jonathan Wilson wrote:
 On Friday 25 January 2008 10:44:07 D Henson wrote:
 I now get no display at all, not even the stuff you normally get when
 you boot the system. Correct me if I'm wrong but shouldn't any PC
 monitor display that stuff, regardless of whether or not a driver is
 installed? All that I do get is No VGA Input and Monitor going to
 Sleep. This sounds like a hardware problem. I removed my existing card
 (GeForce 2) and installed a newer one (GeForce FX 5200). No display.
 Reinstalled the older card. Replaced VGA cable. No display. Removed
 power for 20 seconds  reconnected power. No display. Replaced monitor
 with known good monitor. No display. Now I'm really lost.

 Anybody have any suggestions on how to proceed?

 Don Henson
 
 Do you have a CRT or an LCD laptop? 

LCD - HP V19? (I'm not at my desk.)

 Please check to make sure the monitor's 
 settings haven't been corrupted. Just this week I had a friend call and say 
 his big 24 LCD monitor wasn't working anymore - no lights, no display. After 
 poking a lot of buttons I finally figured out that it had just lots it's 
 mind - was listening to the wrong input, was set to partial resolution, a 
 bunch of things. I assume a surge hit the monitor or something.

I haven't done that but I will.
 
 You are saying, I take it, that you do not see even the BIOS messages 
 scrolling by when you first boot up. 

Correct, not even the splash screen announcing the motherboard model, etc.

  That makes me wonder if the BIOs is set 
 to send it's output to something other than the AGP/PCIe port.

Possible but the system has been working for years and has gone thru
several upgrades. I would have thought that such a problem would have
shown itself by now.

 
 Is there  a built-in VGA on the mainboard that you are not using? If so, plug 
 your monitor into it and see if it's getting signal. If so you'll have to go 
 into the BIOS and tell the BIOS to use the AGP/PCIe port (it will probably be 
 an options called Init Display First

No built-in that I know of but I'll double check.
 
 You might also need to clear your CMOS memory. How to do this depends on the 
 specific computer. Its usually done by moving a jumper temporarily.

That appears to be okay. See next comment below.
 
 Is the computer turning on at all? Go you get power lights, do the fans start 
 to turn when you turn the computer on?

Not only does the computer turn on, from the sounds it makes, I can tell
that it is loading the operating system and doing such things as
mounting external disk drives. I think that if I could just find that
VGA on/off switch, everything would immediately go back to normal.
 
 If so and my pervious advice still doesn't work, you might try using a PCI 
 video card too, at least temporarily.

The GeForce FX 5200 is a PCI board.

Don Henson

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[opensuse] Re: No VGA Input

2008-01-26 Thread Donald D Henson
Rajko M. wrote:
 On Friday 25 January 2008 10:44:07 am D Henson wrote:
 I now get no display at all, not even the stuff you normally get when
 you boot the system. Correct me if I'm wrong but shouldn't any PC
 monitor display that stuff, regardless of whether or not a driver is
 installed? All that I do get is No VGA Input and Monitor going to
 Sleep. This sounds like a hardware problem. I removed my existing card
 (GeForce 2) and installed a newer one (GeForce FX 5200). No display.
 Reinstalled the older card. Replaced VGA cable. No display. Removed
 power for 20 seconds  reconnected power. No display. Replaced monitor
 with known good monitor. No display. Now I'm really lost.

 Anybody have any suggestions on how to proceed?
 
 It sounds like your problem has nothing to do with latest updates :-( 

I think you're right. That the video failure happened during the update
 process appears to have been one huge coincidence. See my final
comments below.
 
 Check is there any lights on computer, any noise.
 
 If yes, than opening the box is next step. 
 
 Reseat all components, RAM first, than all cables you can see. 
 Power on.
 
 If nothing happens.
 Strip down all components on motherboard to bare minimum ie.:
 - power supply
 - one RAM module and
 - graphic adapter
 
 If you have known good components use them. It will tell you on the spot is 
 motherboard OK or not. 
 
 Try to reboot. 
 If nothing happens look to reset CMOS RAM, usually there is some jumper, or 
 simply pull the battery out and replace it. Don't rush, let capacitors 
 discharge. 
 Power on.
 
 If nothing.
 Do as you already did replace graphic adapter, than RAM, power supply one at 
 the time and power on to check is there any changes. 
  
I appreciate everyone's suggestions but I had to go to my recovery plan
as I was about to miss a couple of important deadlines. My plan
concerning the display is to give to a specialist shop to see what they
can do with it. Another option is to just buy a new computer. They're
getting pretty cheap. Thanks to all for some very good suggestions and
timely responses.

Don Henson


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Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?

2008-01-26 Thread G T Smith
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Simon Roberts wrote:
 OK, I've been wanting to answer this question for ages, but there's



snip

 1) Hardware issues. If you just walk into a store and ask for a
 machine that will be good to go with Linux, they'll look at you
 blankly. It's a major effort to check the details yourself. Most off

In a long experience in support as well as development this is not
*just* a linux issue, you get as much and sometime more grief with M$
systems with manufacturers being lazy or incompetent in supplying
drivers that will work with various OS versions. The finger should be
mostly pointed at the hardware people in this case...


 
 2) Photography related. I use Windows to run Photoshop CS2 in a color
 managed workflow. In this, Linux doesn't cut it for two reasons:
 

snip

 GIMP is only 8 bit. That's fire in theory, but when you mess with
 stuff much, you quickly run into posterization (I see this even in
 some professional's work and while those in question don't seem to
 care, I personally hate it).
 

Gimp 8 bit only !?! clarify context and format, seems a very broad and
sweeping generalisation  I find gimp a bit counter intuitive on
occasion but I also have the same problem with photoshop. To be honest I
only worked with the driver and graphic library side in the (very
distant) past, and rarely do things with actual images...


 3) Irritations with web plugins. Idiots out there keep writing stuff
 that's windows only, and there always seems to be trouble trying to
 get the latest Flash player. When it's available, it's tricky to
 install.
 

Personally, must remember to kill things like flash player, one of my
pet hates is going to website and finding that need to load the latest
flash player to even get in..., I usually want info, not pretty moving
pictures... /rant


 4) Palm pilot-: Several versions of palm device just don't sync,
 needless to say, this includes some that matter to me. I don't know
 how to sync my palm and evolution-etc. with web calendars like google
 or yahoo. That's important to me. I gave up using my palm pilot
 because of this. Consequently, I'm appallingly badly organized and
 regularly double book myself and miss meetings.
 

PDA synchronisation is a complex area, Palm originally went the
direction that built their own environment within Windows and it worked
well (pity PalmOS was so limited).

Symbian/PSION went the route of integrating with the Windows desktop and
often it was more than a bit unreliable.

Both approaches are proprietorial, and Linux implementations were
largely reverse engineered (at least in the Symbian/PSION world).

A more modern route is SyncML and things have improved in the Linux
world in part because the specification is open. I would take a good
look at egroupware, the project management side looks like it has a lot
of potential and the basic SyncML support is there. An alternative for
synchronisation is funambol. To be honest I would not want to put my
personal schedule on third party supplier...

Calender synchronisation is still a problem area on all platforms. The
OMA SyncML specification is strong on the communication protocol but
there are aspects of the Server and Client responsibilities that are not
closely specified and are down the application developer.


 5) Video; I have failed repeatedly to build a system that plays all
 reasonable kinds of video. Mostly this seems to be a deliberate
 policy on bill gates' part (and the lawyers and the evil patent
 system, of course). I've reached the point where I can do most file
 types with the exception of AVI with the type 9 codec.
 

I first saw video on a PC in about 1990, at the time I thought it looked
pretty exciting, but now I rather wonder about its value.



 6) Strange inconsistencies (That can't happen):
 

Oh come on ! Again from past support experience this is not *just* a
linux issue... it surprising how inventive how people are at crocking
their PC no matter the platform... at least with Linux one has the
chance of finding out what happened and fix it without having to rebuild
the kit and caboodle from scratch!!!

M$ windows will work when you turn it on but take a look at link below

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/08/01/how_green_and_putrefying/



snip

 Updates that break things, the various methods that I've found my

Think M$ patch Tuesday here :-)

snip


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[opensuse] 32bit libs in 64bit openSuse 10.3 (libasound2)

2008-01-26 Thread Marcin Floryan
Hi!

I have had some problem with sound but upgrading to new alsa drivers
(16rc1) solved it. So I now have all the 64bit alsa libs in version
16rc1. Unfortunately I also need libasound2 in the 32bit version for
Skype to work. But 32bit version of the lib for x86_64 is only
available ver 1.0.14.

I could try compiling it from source but I am not sure how to force
32bit arch (and I suppose I would need some more 32bit libs) and will
it not conflict with the version installed from rpm? I would ideally
uninstall the 32bit version and install manually from source but I
seem to have several other packets that depend on it. What's the best
approach?

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[opensuse] Suse 9.2 need upgrade

2008-01-26 Thread Ronald Wiplinger
I have installed on a machine still SuSE 9.2

I tried You to upgrade, but gives me just an error not found.

How can I upgrade? To what should I upgrade? 

bye

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Re: [opensuse] SLES9 and MySQL5

2008-01-26 Thread Ciro Iriarte
2007/8/9, Michal Marek [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Ciro Iriarte wrote:
  Probably i'll copy the datafiles (as soon as i get the needed space)
  to a vmware installation and try to update mysql or probably reinstall
  it (rpm -e mysql/rpm -i mysql-5.blah).

 If you have the possibility to test your app in a testing environment,
 then this is definitely the recommended way. rpm -Uvh should work as
 well btw, or adding the repo to yast (if you want to update all packages).


  For production i would like to wait for 5.1 as i'm interested on using
  table partitions (there's an ugly +60GB table around). Have any idea
  when it's going to be released (and added to Build Service)?

 I can't answer the first question. As for buildservice, there used to be
 rpms of 5.1 beta version in the same repository, but I removed them, as
 it caused problems when building other packages. I'm going to resurrect
 them however (after 10.3 or so). So the answer to the second question is
 soon after the official release ;)


  I'll report back the result of my tests.

 Cool. Looking forward for your results :)

 Michal


Hi, reporting back :D
Unlukily i couldn't get enought disk space in my workstation to
install a VM and copy over all the production datafiles to test a
direct upgrade. Two weeks ago one of our replicated 4.1 servers
crashed and couldn't recover the datafiles, so last night I wiped the
DB filesystem and started from scratch.

Succesfully installed the 5.1 packages from
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/database:/mysql51/SLES_9/x86_64/
and i'm currently restoring from a DB dump. Would be great just to
start with the binary files though...

I'll report any issue.

Regards,
Ciro
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Re: [opensuse] Suse 9.2 need upgrade

2008-01-26 Thread Joe Morris (NTM)

On 01/26/2008 09:46 PM, Ronald Wiplinger wrote:

I have installed on a machine still SuSE 9.2

I tried You to upgrade, but gives me just an error not found.

How can I upgrade? To what should I upgrade? 


  
Upgrade to 10.3, 9.3 is already end of life, 9.2 has been for some 
time.  You can download or buy the install discs from 
http://en.opensuse.org/Welcome_to_openSUSE.org  HTH   
  


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Re: [opensuse] complete system halt..

2008-01-26 Thread Sampsa Riikonen
Dear Kai, Jose  rest of The List,

I was told by Jose (look for the mail archives with this same subject),
not to use the powersave daemon.

I disabled the powesaver daemon (from yast = runlevel) and kpowersave
and my laptop has not halted since.. It is working perfectly
(the problem has not occurred since.. few days).

Other people have resolved this by removing acpi (?) from the grub.

David commented that he had a similar problem with
suse 10.2-3, but not with 10.1

So it seems we have a power management problem from version 10.2 ..?

Should we make a bug report?  To whom?

Cheers,

Sampsa 

On Thu, 2008-01-24 at 09:37 -0800, PerfectReign wrote:
 On Thu, January 24, 2008 7:31 am, Sampsa Riikonen wrote:
  Dear List,
 
  I have suse 10.3 installed on a hp tx1000 laptop.
  I am using KDE.
 
  Ultimately, the system has become very unstable..
  It halts completely very frequently. I have observed
  this halt while browsing the web (it has happened both
  with firefox and the konqueror), but I suppose it can
  happen with any program..(?)
 
 
 This is the same behavior I was witnessing on my nw9440 (Compaq/HP)
 laptop prior to downgrading to Vista a few weeks back.
 
 I had 10.2 running on it just fine since April and then instaleld
 (fresh) 10.3.  It kept seizing up completely (except for mouse
 movement) and wouldn't even let me do a ctrl-alt-backspace. Sometimes
 it would run for a few minutes and other times for an hour or more
 prior to this issue.
 
 I also noticed this when just logging into runlevel 3.
 
 I thought it was the fact that I had an encrypted home partition, but
 maybe not?
 
 I'd be curious what the change from 10.2 to 10.3 is.
 
 
 

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Re: [opensuse] amavisd warning failure?

2008-01-26 Thread Sandy Drobic

Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:

On 01/26/2008 04:08 AM, Sandy Drobic wrote:


Interesting.  I never noticed before that the default amavisd setup is 
to NOT use clamd as a primary antivirus scanner (but antivir is).  Mine 
sees antivir as primary and clamscan as secondary.  So the problem for 
the OP is he only has clamav installed and no primary (by default).  I 
assume he could correct the socket path and uncomment the section for 
clamd to allow it to work as a primary scanner.  Best I assume would be 
to install a primary scanner from the offering in amavisd.conf, and 
leave clamscan as a secondary.


My reason for clamd as primary and clamscan as secondary is, that the 
daemonized version is faster, so the slower command line scanner should only 
be used when the daemon is unavailable.


Actually, I also have antivir installed (in parallel to clamd as primary). 
Both are looking for fresh signatures every hour.





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Re: [opensuse] Postfix - howto deliver mail for user to 2 machines?

2008-01-26 Thread Sandy Drobic

David C. Rankin wrote:

Jan 25 21:29:43 bonza postfix/smtp[11264]: 5FF1026D838: 
to=me_at_trinity.rbpllc.com, orig_to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
relay=trinity.rbpllc.com[192.168.7.17]:25, delay=1236, 
delays=935/0.02/300/0, dsn=4.4.2, status=deferred (conversation with 
trinity.rbpllc.com[192.168.7.17] timed out while receiving the initial 
server greeting)


Have you tried a simple telnet 192.168.7.17 25 to see if the smtp banner of 
the site appears? Is this really the correct address, it is a private ip, 
after all.



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Re: [opensuse] Postfix - howto deliver mail for user to 2 machines?

2008-01-26 Thread Sandy Drobic

David C. Rankin wrote:

an 25 21:14:43 bonza postfix/error[11182]: 5FF1026D838: 
to=me_at_trinity.rbpllc.com, orig_to=me_at_rbpllc.com relay=none, 
delay=335, delays=335/0.02/0/0.03, dsn=4.4.2, status=deferred 
(delivery temporarily suspended: conversation with 
trinity.rbpllc.com[192.168.7.17] timed out while receiving the initial 
server greeting)


Huh?

I tried increasing smtp_connect_timeout = 60s, but that didn't 
help either. Any help?




I think I'm on the right track. I believe I've screwed up my 
virtual_alias_domain, I'm checking it out.


Addresses in virtual_alias_domains MUST be rewritten to another address class 
(virtual_mailbox_domains, mydestination, relay_domains).



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[opensuse] P2 laptop install - boot loader issue

2008-01-26 Thread Greg Freemyer
All,

Step 1 of my Weather Station project is to install 10.3 on to an old P2 laptop.

I'm using a Dell P2 Latitude with a CD, but no floppy.  (I have an
external available if I need it.)

I'm try with the 10.3 KDE single CD install media, downloaded from suse.

I get as far as the bootloader install section.

For some reason, I get a dialog box about installing lilo and needing
to write the boot sector to a floppy.  (I prefer grub, but can live
with lilo).

I clicked something for it to proceed, and it failed.  The hard disk
is not boot at this point.

I tried booting to rescue mode and mounting the sda1 partition (looks
good).  On sda1, I have /boot which looks good.  /boot/grub is missing
menu.lst.

I then tried running grub --no-floppy which gave me a command prompt
like I wanted.

I quit from that, did a chroot to /mnt so /sda1 was my effective root.

Did grub --no-floppy --config-file=/boot/grub/menu.lst

I can't remember if that gave me a command prompt or not the first time.

Now if I try grub --no-floppy I just runs and I back to a standard
bash command prompt with no chance to try to install grub.

Ideas?

Thanks
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Re: [opensuse] amavisd warning failure?

2008-01-26 Thread Joe Morris

On 01/26/2008 10:09 PM, Sandy Drobic wrote:
My reason for clamd as primary and clamscan as secondary is, that the 
daemonized version is faster, so the slower command line scanner 
should only be used when the daemon is unavailable.


Actually, I also have antivir installed (in parallel to clamd as 
primary). Both are looking for fresh signatures every hour.


I learned something new.  I assumed one primary was optimal, thus clamd 
is commented out by default with the suse amavisd and used as a 
secondary.  I figured 2 primary may cause double scanning and load the 
server more or slow things down.  But I guess I was wrong.  I went ahead 
and corrected the socket path and name, uncommented the clamd entry, and 
reloaded, and it is now using clamd and antivir as primary and clamscan 
as secondary.  Thanks again Sandy, you have taught me much over the 
years, and I am still learning.


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Re: [opensuse] Strange SATA problems with openSUSE

2008-01-26 Thread Bob
On Friday 25 January 2008 14:43:23 Clayton wrote:
 I've posted a couple times about this with no replies yet

 Earlier today, the entire computer came crashing to a halt... so it
 forced me to spend more time looking into the problem.

 The motherboard I have (ASUS M2N-e SLI) has 4 SATA2 ports.  SATA 1, 2,
 3 and 4.  I also have a SATA1 RAID controller with 2 SATA ports.  I
 have drives connected on IDE0 and IDE1 and they are working fine.

 Scenario 1: If I leave the RAID card out, and just connect drives to
 SATA 1 and SATA 2 the computer boots fine.  BIOS finds the SATA
 drives, and Linux is happy.

 Scenario 2: If I add drives to SATA 3 and 4 in Scenario 1, the BIOS
 sees all four drive2, but when I boot Linux, it errors out.  I can
 boot the OS, but the error logs fill up with errors, and I have
 serious performance issues.. until it just dies altogether.

 The boot errors look like this:
 -
 6ata3: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
 4ata3.00: qc timeout (cmd 0x27)
 4ata3.00: failed to read native max address (err_mask=0x4)
 4ata3: failed to recover some devices, retrying in 5 secs
 6ata3: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
 4ata3.00: qc timeout (cmd 0x27)
 4ata3.00: failed to read native max address (err_mask=0x4)
 3ata3.00: revalidation failed (errno=-5)
 4ata3: limiting SATA link speed to 1.5 Gbps
 4ata3.00: limiting speed to UDMA7:PIO5
 4ata3: failed to recover some devices, retrying in 5 secs
 --
 and continue on for quite some time.


 Scenario 3: If I add the RAID card in to Scenario 1, but do not
 connect any drives to the RAID, all boots and works OK.

 Scenario 4: If I connect 2 SATA drives to the RAID card, and have two
 drives from Scenario 1 also connected, all works and boots OK.

 Scenario 5:  If I connect a SATA drive to SATA 3 or 4 in Scenario 4, I
 get the same results as with Scenario 2... a long list of SATA errors
 on the boot.

 Has anyone encountered this before?  Could it be a hardware issue.. a
 failing SATA controller on the motherboard, or is it some obscure
 Linux thing?


 C.

Please look at bug 331610 (and vote for it, if you think it relates to your 
problem).

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Re: [opensuse] amavisd warning failure?

2008-01-26 Thread Carlos E. R.

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...

My reason for clamd as primary and clamscan as secondary is, that the 
daemonized version is faster, so the slower command line scanner should only 
be used when the daemon is unavailable.


Actually, I also have antivir installed (in parallel to clamd as primary). 
Both are looking for fresh signatures every hour.


I have antivirus checking disabled; instead amavis dumps any email with 
executable attachments. After all, this is linux and I have no use for 
executables, even if bona fide ;-)


I wonder if amavis can be told to run virus scan only on those email with 
suspicious attachments: exes, docs, pdfs, etc. I disabled it precisely 
because it scanned every mail, which I think is an overkill: why should it 
scan this list mail, for instance? It text only.


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Re: [opensuse] Suse 9.2 need upgrade

2008-01-26 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Saturday 2008-01-26 at 21:46 +0800, Ronald Wiplinger wrote:


I have installed on a machine still SuSE 9.2

I tried You to upgrade, but gives me just an error not found.


As 9.2 has finished its life period, the maintenance update servers are no 
longer available, and YOU will fail.



How can I upgrade? To what should I upgrade? 


You have to upgrade the entire thing: get the DVD from the current 
version, boot it, and choose upgrade, or install new.


Make a backup first.

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Re: [opensuse] amavisd warning failure?

2008-01-26 Thread Sandy Drobic

Carlos E. R. wrote:



The Saturday 2008-01-26 at 15:09 +0100, Sandy Drobic wrote:

...

My reason for clamd as primary and clamscan as secondary is, that the 
daemonized version is faster, so the slower command line scanner 
should only be used when the daemon is unavailable.


Actually, I also have antivir installed (in parallel to clamd as 
primary). Both are looking for fresh signatures every hour.


I have antivirus checking disabled; instead amavis dumps any email with 
executable attachments. After all, this is linux and I have no use for 
executables, even if bona fide ;-)


That is what amavisd-new already does before it calls virus scanners or 
spam-assassin. Unfortunately, you can't just reject/quarantine every 
executable in a corporate environment. At least I can't.


I wonder if amavis can be told to run virus scan only on those email 
with suspicious attachments: exes, docs, pdfs, etc. I disabled it 
precisely because it scanned every mail, which I think is an overkill: 
why should it scan this list mail, for instance? It text only.


It doesn't (see above). Scanninng text only files is very fast, most of the 
time is spent to actually load the scanner itself. That's why a daemonized 
scanner is preferable.


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Re: [opensuse] Root antivir ?.

2008-01-26 Thread M9.

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| So the subject persists.

Not nice... at all...

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Re: [opensuse] Root antivir ?.

2008-01-26 Thread M9.

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| So the subject persists.

Not nice... at all...

Are you sure you checked if the new 1.6 was set as default?
Did you use this page to verify your version?
http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp

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Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?

2008-01-26 Thread M9.

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More than 3 years, is quite impressive...


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|

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Re: [opensuse] Root antivir ?.

2008-01-26 Thread Joe Sloan
Erik Jakobsen wrote:

 # ./antivir-gui
 libxcb: WARNING! Program tries to unlock a connection without having
 acquired
a lock first, which indicates a programming error.
There will be no further warnings about this issue.
 libxcb: WARNING! Program tries to lock an already locked connection,
which indicates a programming error.
There will be no further warnings about this issue.


So it actually runs, but you are curious about the error?

ISTR something about an environment variable SLOPPY_LOCK or similar,
which some have reported success with.

It sounds like this antivir is basically a curiosity - OTOH if your
system is a server to windows clients, then there is a need for AV- but
clamscan is better suited to scripted checks, and samba has hooks into
clamav for real time on access scanning, so that's probably your best
bet anyway.


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Re: [opensuse] Suse 9.2 need upgrade

2008-01-26 Thread Joe Sloan
Ronald Wiplinger wrote:
 I have installed on a machine still SuSE 9.2
 
 I tried You to upgrade, but gives me just an error not found.
 
 How can I upgrade? To what should I upgrade? 

9.2 is obsolete and unsupported for some time - perhaps the repos were
not found, that would not be surprising.

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[opensuse] Heads UP - New ATI Catalyst 8.1 (8.454) Driver, No DRI, No 3D

2008-01-26 Thread David C. Rankin

Listmates,

	Heads up! The 8.454 driver causes errors on openSuSE 10.3 running 
2.6.22.13-0.3-default kernel on a Toshiba P35 laptop. The card is an 
ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600/9700 Series (Chipset = 0x4e50). glxgears 
framerates drop from 2100 to 517 with the new driver and the driver 
causes kernel errors, does not initialize DRI and does not provide 3D 
acceleration. A summary of the Xorg.0.log errors are:


10:59 Rankin-P35a~ grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
(EE) fglrx(0): Failed to initialize ASIC in kernel.
(EE) fglrx(0): [agp] Failed to set AGP mode!
(EE) fglrx(0): cannot init AGP
(EE) fglrx(0): atiddxDriScreenInit failed, GPS not been initialized.
(EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable

The errors in context in the relevant parts of the Xorg.0.log.

(II) LoadModule: fglrx
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//drivers/fglrx_drv.so
(II) Module fglrx: vendor=FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc.
compiled for 7.1.0, module version = 8.45.4
Module class: X.Org Video Driver
snip
(II) fglrx(0): === [atiddxPreInit] === begin
(II) Loading sub module vgahw
(II) LoadModule: vgahw
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libvgahw.so
(II) Module vgahw: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 7.2.0, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.2
(II) fglrx(0): PCI bus 1 card 5 func 0
(**) fglrx(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
(II) fglrx(0): Pixel depth = 24 bits stored in 4 bytes (32 bpp pixmaps)
(==) fglrx(0): Default visual is TrueColor
(**) fglrx(0): Option NoAccel no
(**) fglrx(0): Option NoDRI no
(**) fglrx(0): Option Capabilities 0x
(**) fglrx(0): Option CapabilitiesEx 0x
(**) fglrx(0): Option GammaCorrectionI 0x
(**) fglrx(0): Option GammaCorrectionII 0x
(**) fglrx(0): Option OpenGLOverlay off
(**) fglrx(0): Option VideoOverlay on
(**) fglrx(0): Option ScreenOverlap 0
(**) fglrx(0): Option UseInternalAGPGART no
(**) fglrx(0): Option Stereo off
(**) fglrx(0): Option StereoSyncEnable 1
(**) fglrx(0): Option UseFastTLS 1
(**) fglrx(0): Option BlockSignalsOnLock on
(**) fglrx(0): Option ForceGenericCPU no
(**) fglrx(0): Option CenterMode off
(**) fglrx(0): Option EnablePrivateBackZ no
(**) fglrx(0): Option PseudoColorVisuals off
(**) fglrx(0): Option DPMS
(II) fglrx(0): Loading PCS database from /etc/ati/amdpcsdb
(==) fglrx(0): RGB weight 888
(II) fglrx(0): Using 8 bits per RGB (8 bit DAC)
(**) fglrx(0): Gamma Correction for I is 0x
(**) fglrx(0): Gamma Correction for II is 0x
(==) fglrx(0): Buffer Tiling is ON
(--) fglrx(0): Chipset: ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600/9700 Series (Chipset 
= 0x4e50)

(--) fglrx(0): (PciSubVendor = 0x1179, PciSubDevice = 0xff01)
(--) fglrx(0): board vendor info: third party graphics adapter - NOT 
original ATI

(--) fglrx(0): Linear framebuffer (phys) at 0xf000
(--) fglrx(0): MMIO registers at 0xe810
(==) fglrx(0): ROM-BIOS at 0x000c
(**) fglrx(0): Option mtrr off
(II) Loading sub module int10
(II) LoadModule: int10
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libint10.so
(II) Module int10: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 7.2.0, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.2
(II) fglrx(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000
(II) LoadModule: vbe
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libvbe.so
(II) Module vbe: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 7.2.0, module version = 1.1.0
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.2
(II) fglrx(0): VESA BIOS detected
(II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE Version 2.0
(II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE Total Mem: 65536 kB
(II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE OEM: ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600
(II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE OEM Software Rev: 1.0
(II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE OEM Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc.
(II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE OEM Product: P11
(II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE OEM Product Rev: 01.00
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 6, (OK)
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 6, (OK)
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 6, (OK)
drmGetBusid returned ''
(II) Loading sub module fglrxdrm
(II) LoadModule: fglrxdrm
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/linux//libfglrxdrm.so
(II) Module fglrxdrm: vendor=FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc.
compiled for 7.1.0, module version = 8.45.4
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3
(II) fglrx(0): Using adapter: 1:5:0.
(EE) fglrx(0): Failed to initialize ASIC in kernel.
^^^
snip
(II) Loading sub module fglrxdrm
(II) LoadModule: fglrxdrm
(II) Reloading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/linux//libfglrxdrm.so
(II) fglrx(0): Depth moves disabled by default
(**) fglrx(0): Capabilities: 0x
(**) fglrx(0): CapabilitiesEx: 0x
(**) fglrx(0): cpuFlags: 0x801d
(==) fglrx(0): OpenGL ClientDriverName: fglrx_dri.so
(**) fglrx(0): using built in AGPGART module: no
(**) fglrx(0): ATI GART size: 256 MB
(II) fglrx(0): [pci] find AGP GART
(II) fglrx(0): [agp] Mode=0x1f00021b 

Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?

2008-01-26 Thread Ken Schneider
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 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ uptime
 |   5:32pm  up 1016 days  1:24,  1 user,  load average: 2.47, 2.56, 2.36
 
 More than 3 years, is quite impressive...
 
 

It might be impressive, but it also shows that no kernel security
updates have been performed in a log time which _could_ make the
machine vulnerable to attacks.

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Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?

2008-01-26 Thread James Knott
M9. wrote:


 Joe Sloan schreef:

 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ uptime
 |   5:32pm  up 1016 days  1:24,  1 user,  load average: 2.47, 2.56, 2.36

 More than 3 years, is quite impressive...

Not quite.  Three years is 1095 days, ignoring leap years.

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Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?

2008-01-26 Thread Joe Sloan
Ken Schneider wrote:
 M9. pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
 
 Joe Sloan schreef:
 
 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ uptime |   5:32pm  up 1016 days  1:24,  1 user, 
 load average: 2.47, 2.56, 2.36
 
 More than 3 years, is quite impressive...
 
 
 
 It might be impressive, but it also shows that no kernel security 
 updates have been performed in a log time which _could_ make the 
 machine vulnerable to attacks.


Right, thekernel was updated in 2005 - there might be some sort of
theoretical local vulnerability, but not every kernel security update is
even relevant to our application.

In the corporate world, you find that IT managers don't rush out and
update software all that often. When something works, the attitude is,
do not touch the production system.

Joe


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Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?

2008-01-26 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Saturday 26 January 2008 10:07, James Knott wrote:
 M9. wrote:
 Joe Sloan schreef:
 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ uptime
 | 5:32pm  up 1016 days  1:24,  1 user,  load average: 2.47, 2.56, | 2.36

 More than 3 years, is quite impressive...

 Not quite.  Three years is 1095 days, ignoring leap years.

And we have an upper bound on kernel security fixes applied to this
system...


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Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?

2008-01-26 Thread James Knott
Billie Walsh wrote:
 James Knott wrote:
   
 M9. wrote:
   
 
 Joe Sloan schreef:

 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ uptime
 |   5:32pm  up 1016 days  1:24,  1 user,  load average: 2.47, 2.56, 2.36

 More than 3 years, is quite impressive...
 
   
 Not quite.  Three years is 1095 days, ignoring leap years.

   
 
 1095.75 if someone wants to be picky.
   
But then, we'd have to consider calendar years, Julian years, solar
years, sidereal years and of course UTC years.

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Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?

2008-01-26 Thread M9.

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Joe Sloan schreef:
| Ken Schneider wrote:
| M9. pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
| Joe Sloan schreef:
|
| | [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ uptime |   5:32pm  up 1016 days  1:24,  1 user,
| load average: 2.47, 2.56, 2.36
|
| More than 3 years, is quite impressive...
|
|
| It might be impressive, but it also shows that no kernel security
| updates have been performed in a log time which _could_ make the
| machine vulnerable to attacks.
|
|
| Right, thekernel was updated in 2005 - there might be some sort of
| theoretical local vulnerability, but not every kernel security update is
| even relevant to our application.
|
| In the corporate world, you find that IT managers don't rush out and
| update software all that often. When something works, the attitude is,
| do not touch the production system.
|
| Joe
|
|

Which is the only right attitude imo..to keep things going.
If something breaks, time is there to do the things that are nessesary.

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Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?

2008-01-26 Thread M9.

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James Knott schreef:
| Billie Walsh wrote:
| James Knott wrote:
|
| M9. wrote:
|
|
| Joe Sloan schreef:
|
| | [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ uptime
| |   5:32pm  up 1016 days  1:24,  1 user,  load average: 2.47, 2.56,
2.36
|
| More than 3 years, is quite impressive...
|
|
| Not quite.  Three years is 1095 days, ignoring leap years.
|
|
|
| 1095.75 if someone wants to be picky.
|
| But then, we'd have to consider calendar years, Julian years, solar
| years, sidereal years and of course UTC years.
|

OK, does not take anything away from the impressiveness, if you ask me,
which you do not have to, ofcourse ;-))

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Re: [opensuse] Heads UP - New ATI Catalyst 8.1 (8.454) Driver, No DRI, No 3D

2008-01-26 Thread Michal Hlavac
I found solution at this italian site:
http://www.suseitalia.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=16200start=0

It tells you have to use aticonfig --initial instead of sax2 -r -m 0=fglrx

it works for me...

m.

Dňa Saturday 26 January 2008 18:42:10 David C. Rankin ste napísal:
 Listmates,

   Heads up! The 8.454 driver causes errors on openSuSE 10.3 running
 2.6.22.13-0.3-default kernel on a Toshiba P35 laptop. The card is an
 ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600/9700 Series (Chipset = 0x4e50). glxgears
 framerates drop from 2100 to 517 with the new driver and the driver
 causes kernel errors, does not initialize DRI and does not provide 3D
 acceleration. A summary of the Xorg.0.log errors are:

 10:59 Rankin-P35a~ grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
 (EE) fglrx(0): Failed to initialize ASIC in kernel.
 (EE) fglrx(0): [agp] Failed to set AGP mode!
 (EE) fglrx(0): cannot init AGP
 (EE) fglrx(0): atiddxDriScreenInit failed, GPS not been initialized.
 (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable

   The errors in context in the relevant parts of the Xorg.0.log.

 (II) LoadModule: fglrx
 (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//drivers/fglrx_drv.so
 (II) Module fglrx: vendor=FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc.
  compiled for 7.1.0, module version = 8.45.4
  Module class: X.Org Video Driver
 snip
 (II) fglrx(0): === [atiddxPreInit] === begin
 (II) Loading sub module vgahw
 (II) LoadModule: vgahw
 (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libvgahw.so
 (II) Module vgahw: vendor=X.Org Foundation
  compiled for 7.2.0, module version = 0.1.0
  ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.2
 (II) fglrx(0): PCI bus 1 card 5 func 0
 (**) fglrx(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
 (II) fglrx(0): Pixel depth = 24 bits stored in 4 bytes (32 bpp pixmaps)
 (==) fglrx(0): Default visual is TrueColor
 (**) fglrx(0): Option NoAccel no
 (**) fglrx(0): Option NoDRI no
 (**) fglrx(0): Option Capabilities 0x
 (**) fglrx(0): Option CapabilitiesEx 0x
 (**) fglrx(0): Option GammaCorrectionI 0x
 (**) fglrx(0): Option GammaCorrectionII 0x
 (**) fglrx(0): Option OpenGLOverlay off
 (**) fglrx(0): Option VideoOverlay on
 (**) fglrx(0): Option ScreenOverlap 0
 (**) fglrx(0): Option UseInternalAGPGART no
 (**) fglrx(0): Option Stereo off
 (**) fglrx(0): Option StereoSyncEnable 1
 (**) fglrx(0): Option UseFastTLS 1
 (**) fglrx(0): Option BlockSignalsOnLock on
 (**) fglrx(0): Option ForceGenericCPU no
 (**) fglrx(0): Option CenterMode off
 (**) fglrx(0): Option EnablePrivateBackZ no
 (**) fglrx(0): Option PseudoColorVisuals off
 (**) fglrx(0): Option DPMS
 (II) fglrx(0): Loading PCS database from /etc/ati/amdpcsdb
 (==) fglrx(0): RGB weight 888
 (II) fglrx(0): Using 8 bits per RGB (8 bit DAC)
 (**) fglrx(0): Gamma Correction for I is 0x
 (**) fglrx(0): Gamma Correction for II is 0x
 (==) fglrx(0): Buffer Tiling is ON
 (--) fglrx(0): Chipset: ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600/9700 Series (Chipset
 = 0x4e50)
 (--) fglrx(0): (PciSubVendor = 0x1179, PciSubDevice = 0xff01)
 (--) fglrx(0): board vendor info: third party graphics adapter - NOT
 original ATI
 (--) fglrx(0): Linear framebuffer (phys) at 0xf000
 (--) fglrx(0): MMIO registers at 0xe810
 (==) fglrx(0): ROM-BIOS at 0x000c
 (**) fglrx(0): Option mtrr off
 (II) Loading sub module int10
 (II) LoadModule: int10
 (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libint10.so
 (II) Module int10: vendor=X.Org Foundation
  compiled for 7.2.0, module version = 1.0.0
  ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.2
 (II) fglrx(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000
 (II) LoadModule: vbe
 (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libvbe.so
 (II) Module vbe: vendor=X.Org Foundation
  compiled for 7.2.0, module version = 1.1.0
  ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.2
 (II) fglrx(0): VESA BIOS detected
 (II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE Version 2.0
 (II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE Total Mem: 65536 kB
 (II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE OEM: ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600
 (II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE OEM Software Rev: 1.0
 (II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE OEM Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc.
 (II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE OEM Product: P11
 (II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE OEM Product Rev: 01.00
 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
 drmOpenDevice: open result is 6, (OK)
 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
 drmOpenDevice: open result is 6, (OK)
 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
 drmOpenDevice: open result is 6, (OK)
 drmGetBusid returned ''
 (II) Loading sub module fglrxdrm
 (II) LoadModule: fglrxdrm
 (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/linux//libfglrxdrm.so
 (II) Module fglrxdrm: vendor=FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc.
  compiled for 7.1.0, module version = 8.45.4
  ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3
 (II) fglrx(0): Using adapter: 1:5:0.
 (EE) fglrx(0): Failed to initialize ASIC in kernel.
 ^^^
 snip
 (II) Loading sub module fglrxdrm
 (II) LoadModule: fglrxdrm
 (II) Reloading 

Re: [opensuse] Heads UP - New ATI Catalyst 8.1 (8.454) Driver, No DRI, No 3D

2008-01-26 Thread David C. Rankin

Michal Hlavac wrote:

I found solution at this italian site:
http://www.suseitalia.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=16200start=0

It tells you have to use aticonfig --initial instead of sax2 -r -m 0=fglrx

it works for me...

m.



	Bummer, I tried it with both the auto install and the prepare package 
for distribution, still no joy...


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Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?

2008-01-26 Thread Ken Schneider
M9. pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
 
 
 Joe Sloan schreef:
 | Ken Schneider wrote:
 | M9. pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
 | Joe Sloan schreef:
 |
 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ uptime |   5:32pm  up 1016 days  1:24,  1 user,
 | load average: 2.47, 2.56, 2.36
 |
 | More than 3 years, is quite impressive...
 |
 |
 | It might be impressive, but it also shows that no kernel security
 | updates have been performed in a log time which _could_ make the
 | machine vulnerable to attacks.
 |
 |
 | Right, thekernel was updated in 2005 - there might be some sort of
 | theoretical local vulnerability, but not every kernel security update is
 | even relevant to our application.
 |
 | In the corporate world, you find that IT managers don't rush out and
 | update software all that often. When something works, the attitude is,
 | do not touch the production system.
 |
 | Joe
 |

We're also not talking about rushing out to update software for
softwares sake. It's about applying critical security updates. Of course
if the system is only an internal server it _might_ not be as critical.
If the IT managers were aware that a critical security update was
available and _not_ applied they would/should start asking why.

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Re: [opensuse] amavisd warning failure?

2008-01-26 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Saturday 2008-01-26 at 16:46 +0100, Sandy Drobic wrote:


 I have antivirus checking disabled; instead amavis dumps any email with
 executable attachments. After all, this is linux and I have no use for
 executables, even if bona fide ;-)


That is what amavisd-new already does before it calls virus scanners or 
spam-assassin. Unfortunately, you can't just reject/quarantine every 
executable in a corporate environment. At least I can't.


I can't think of a good enough reason to accept executables in a corporate 
environment :-P


Except for developers, perhaps, and they can be declared in one of the 
friend list amavis has.





 I wonder if amavis can be told to run virus scan only on those email with
 suspicious attachments: exes, docs, pdfs, etc. I disabled it precisely
 because it scanned every mail, which I think is an overkill: why should it
 scan this list mail, for instance? It text only.


It doesn't (see above). Scanninng text only files is very fast, most of the 
time is spent to actually load the scanner itself. That's why a daemonized 
scanner is preferable.


I'll give clamav a try, but I have to find a way to disable antivir: I 
do not want both running. I'll check the config.


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[opensuse] Re: Heads Up - New ATI Catalyst 8.1 (8.454) Driver, No DRI, No 3D

2008-01-26 Thread Dieter Jurzitza
Dear David,
please put a # in front of the BusId line in section Device of xorg.conf:

Section Device
  BoardNameRX2600Pro
  #BusID1:5:0
  Driver   fglrx
  Identifier   Device[0]
***

this ought to bring 3D into live ...
See a corresponding thread in opensuse-xorg. The latest ATI driver introduced 
a bug, it cannot cope with 1:5:0 any more.

Hope this helps,
take care



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Re: [opensuse] A few questions about using LDAP

2008-01-26 Thread Rui Santos



Carlos Lorenzo Matés wrote:

Hi.

El Martes, 1 de Enero de 2008, Rui Santos escribió:

Hi all,

I've just installed LDAP Server with openSUSE10.3. All users are able
to login from a specific openSUSE 10.3 machine. Here are the questions:

- How can I make LDAP use more than 8 characters in the password ? No
matter what scheme I use ( crypt, ssha, etc... ), YaST always complains
that it will only support 8 characters and will truncate the password to
those 8 characters.



You need to go to Yast
Ldap client
Advanced configuration
Admin adjustments tab
Configure user management options
select suseuserconfiguration
adjust the entry of max password length


Thanks, ot worked like a charm.





- How can I change the LDAP password of a specific users without using
YaST ? When I type passwd and fill out everything, I get this error (
even with root user ):
Enter login(LDAP) password:
New Password:
Reenter New Password:
LDAP password information update failed: Insufficient access
Must supply old password to be changed as well as new one
passwd: Permission denied

- Does the above command, passwd, allows regular users to change their
passwords ?


It works for me


It also did for me after I removed the Must provide old password checkbox.

Thanks Carlos.







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Re: [opensuse] Heads UP - New ATI Catalyst 8.1 (8.454) Driver, No DRI, No 3D [Part Solved]

2008-01-26 Thread David C. Rankin

David C. Rankin wrote:

Listmates,



	As a follow-up, I have managed to get the driver working, but still no 
compiz. The xorg.conf configuration is quite a bit different that with 
the previous drivers in the many of the driver options that were 
specified in earlier xorg.conf files will now prevent the driver from 
loading. The session lock on logout is FIXED! Currently my xorg.conf 
looks as shown below. If anyone has any tips on getting compiz working 
with the new driver, please let me know.



Section ServerLayout
  Identifier   Layout[all]
  Screen 0  Screen[0] 0 0
  InputDevice  Keyboard[0] CoreKeyboard
  InputDevice  Mouse[1] CorePointer
  InputDevice  Mouse[3] SendCoreEvents
  Option   Clone off
  Option   Xinerama off
  Option   AIGLX True
EndSection

Section Files
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/local
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Type1
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/URW
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Speedo
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/PEX
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/cyrillic
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/latin2/misc:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/latin2/75dpi:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/latin2/100dpi:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/latin2/Type1
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/latin7/75dpi:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/baekmuk:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/japanese:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/kwintv
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/truetype
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/uni:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/CID
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/ucs/misc:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/ucs/75dpi:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/ucs/100dpi:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/hellas/misc:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/hellas/75dpi:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/hellas/100dpi:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/hellas/Type1
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc/sgi:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/xtest
  FontPath /opt/kde3/share/fonts
  InputDevices /dev/gpmdata
  InputDevices /dev/input/mice
EndSection

Section Module
  Load dbe
  Load type1
  Load freetype
  Load extmod
  Load glx
EndSection

Section ServerFlags
  Option   AllowMouseOpenFail on
  Option   IgnoreABI on
EndSection


Section InputDevice
  Identifier   Keyboard[0]
  Driver   kbd
  Option   Protocol Standard
  Option   XkbLayout us
  Option   XkbModel microsoftpro
  Option   XkbRules xfree86
EndSection

Section InputDevice
  Identifier   Mouse[1]
  Driver   mouse
  Option   Buttons 5
  Option   Device /dev/input/mice
  Option   Name Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical
  Option   Protocol explorerps/2
  Option   Vendor Sysp
  Option   ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection

Section InputDevice
  Identifier   Mouse[3]
  Driver   synaptics
  Option   AccelFactor 0.1
  Option   BottomEdge 650
  Option   Buttons 5
  Option   CircScrollDelta 0.1
  Option   CircScrollTrigger 2
  Option   CircularScrolling 1
  Option   Device /dev/input/mice
  Option   EdgeMotionMaxSpeed 15
  Option   EdgeMotionMinSpeed 15
  Option   Emulate3Buttons on
  Option   EmulateMidButtonTime 75
  Option   FingerHigh 17
  Option   FingerLow 14
  Option   HorizScrollDelta 20
  Option   InputFashion Mouse
  Option   LeftEdge 120
  Option   MaxSpeed 3
  Option   MaxTapMove 110
  Option   MaxTapTime 180
  Option   MinSpeed 0.2
  Option   Name ALPS;Touchpad
  Option   Protocol auto-dev
  Option   RightEdge 830
  Option   SHMConfig on
  Option   TopEdge 120
  Option   UpDownScrolling 1
  Option   Vendor Sysp
  Option   VertScrollDelta 20
  Option   ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection

Section Modes
  Identifier   Modes[0]
ModeLine 1440x900 106.5 1440 1520 1672 1904 900 901 904 932
ModeLine 1440x900 87.2 1440 1488 1520 1600 900 903 909 
926 +hsync -vsync

EndSection

Section Monitor
  DisplaySize  367 230
  HorizSync30.0 - 70.0
  Identifier   Monitor[0]
  ModelNameSAMSUNG LCD MONITOR
  Option   DPMS true
  VendorName   SEC
  VertRefresh  43.0 - 60.0
  UseModes Modes[0]
EndSection

Section Device
  Identifier   Device[0]
  Driver   fglrx
  BoardNameATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600/9700 Series (M10/M11 4E50)
EndSection

Section Screen
  Identifier   Screen[0]
  Device   Device[0]
  Monitor  Monitor[0]
  DefaultDepth 24
  SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth  24
  EndSubSection
EndSection

Section DRI
Group  video
Mode   0660
EndSection

Section Extensions
  Option   DAMAGE true
  Option   Composite true




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[opensuse] Re: How can I give the password to an ssh session on the command line?

2008-01-26 Thread Dieter Jurzitza
Hi Carlos,
please try the following:

ssh-keygen -t rsa

creates a file ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub and ~/.ssh/id_rsa

now take the file id_rsa.pub and put it's contents into ~/.ssh/authorized_keys 
of the _remote_ machine.
This leads to a password less login because your account is signed 
appropriately.
I guess this is advantageous over handing over passwords through a script 
IMHO.
Best regards,
hth


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Re: [opensuse] Heads UP - New ATI Catalyst 8.1 (8.454) Driver, No DRI, No 3D [Solved]

2008-01-26 Thread David C. Rankin

David C. Rankin wrote:

David C. Rankin wrote:

Listmates,

	As a sir follow-up, with the previously posted xorg.conf, compiz can be 
started with:


LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 compiz --ignore-desktop-hints --replace \
--indirect-rendering --no-libgl-fallback --sm-disable ccp 


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Re: [opensuse] complete system halt..

2008-01-26 Thread David Bolt
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Sampsa Riikonen wrote:-

David commented that he had a similar problem with
suse 10.2-3, but not with 10.1

My problem was with 10.1, and not 10.3. I can use 10.3 with ACPI enabled
and it has no problems. I can also use 10.1, if I have mains power and
have ACPI enabled, but only if I boot from grub installed by 10.3. If I
have a power loss and the system switches to battery only while I'm
using 10.1 with ACPI, the system hard-locks. With 10.3, this doesn't
happen, and I couldn't boot with grub installed by 10.1 with ACPI
enabled with or without mains power.


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Re: [opensuse] Difference between Yast-Group Mgmt. and groupadd

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Re: [opensuse] Will there be a LTS version of OpenSuse?

2008-01-26 Thread Johannes Nohl
The discussion seemed to be ended but the maintance release (!) of a
LTS'ed Linux (http://www.ubuntu.com/news/lts-6.06.2) reminds me of
this thread. I read that many responses to this release that I think
the number of users must be extremly high. Most pointed out that they
are not interested in cutting edge software but in stability. Don't
you think a long time support release of opensuse will bring (more)
people (back) to this great distribution?!

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Re: [opensuse] Heads UP - New ATI Catalyst 8.1 (8.454) Driver, No DRI, No 3D

2008-01-26 Thread David C. Rankin

Michal Hlavac wrote:

Dn(a Saturday 26 January 2008 20:44:03 David C. Rankin ste napísal:

Michal Hlavac wrote:

I found solution at this italian site:
http://www.suseitalia.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=16200star
t=0

It tells you have to use aticonfig --initial instead of sax2 -r -m
0=fglrx

it works for me...

m.

Bummer, I tried it with both the auto install and the prepare package
for distribution, still no joy...


Ok, try this:

1. logout of KDE or GNOME
2. Ctrl + Alt + F1
3. login as root
4. init 3
5. ensure that rpm -qa | grep fglrx shows only driver rpm package
5. if yes execute rpm -e `rpm -qa | grep fglrx`
5. rmmod fglrx
6. sax2 -r -m 0=fglrx
6. rpm -Uhv fglrx_7_1_0_SUSE103-8.452.1-1.i386.rpm
7. aticonfig --initial
8. init 5

now it should works...

m.


Thanks Michal,

	I got it to work, but getting the xorg.conf is going to take a little 
work. (I bet your fonts were 'tiny' after the new driver install). I did 
get compiz working, (see the [SOLVED] reply).


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[opensuse] Kmail and taglines

2008-01-26 Thread Stan Goodman
Is there a way that one can readily include randomized taglines in messages 
sent with Km ail?

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Re: [opensuse] Re: Heads Up - New ATI Catalyst 8.1 (8.454) Driver, No DRI, No 3D

2008-01-26 Thread David C. Rankin

Dieter Jurzitza wrote:

Dear David,
please put a # in front of the BusId line in section Device of xorg.conf:

Section Device
  BoardNameRX2600Pro
  #BusID1:5:0
  Driver   fglrx
  Identifier   Device[0]
***

this ought to bring 3D into live ...
See a corresponding thread in opensuse-xorg. The latest ATI driver introduced 
a bug, it cannot cope with 1:5:0 any more.


Hope this helps,
take care



Dieter Jurzitza



Thank you Dieter!

	I did get it working. At least in this case it looks like driver took 3 
steps forward and only 2 steps back! I'll work through the xorg.conf 
today and see what ends up being optimal. The default xorg.conf 
generated by the aticonfig --initial is terriable


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[opensuse] printer paused after using xsane

2008-01-26 Thread Ken Schneider
openSUSE 10.3, up to date with patches. HP LaserJet 3300 all-in-one.

Has anyone else come across the problem of xsane disabling the printer
after using the scanner of an all-in-one device? I don't recall this
happening with 10.0 which was installed previously. Perhaps this is the
new default for printer/scanner devices?

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Re: [opensuse] Will there be a LTS version of OpenSuse?

2008-01-26 Thread Ortwin Ebhardt

Hi Johannes,

Johannes Nohl wrote:

The discussion seemed to be ended but the maintance release (!) of a
LTS'ed Linux (http://www.ubuntu.com/news/lts-6.06.2) reminds me of
this thread. I read that many responses to this release that I think
the number of users must be extremly high. Most pointed out that they
are not interested in cutting edge software but in stability. Don't
you think a long time support release of opensuse will bring (more)
people (back) to this great distribution?!

Johannes
  


I'm afraid Novell's counting on SLES and SLED for that matter. Though 
working for a company dealing with the Enterprise stuff I realy couldn't 
agree more with you!


Nice Weekend to all,
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[opensuse] compiz: Where to specify custom command line for fusion-icon ?

2008-01-26 Thread David C. Rankin

listmates,

	I use fusion-icon to start compiz. With the new 8.452 ATI driver the 
default command line used by fusion-icon to start compiz no longer 
works. How can I tell fusion-icon to execute:


LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 compiz \
--ignore-desktop-hints \
--replace \
--indirect-rendering \
--no-libgl-fallback \
--sm-disable \
ccp 

	to start compiz? I have looked at usr/bin/fusion-icon, but that just 
points to a mess of python scripts. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


P.S. After struggling with the initial install of the 8.452 driver, I 
like what I see! Screenshot with the driver at:


http://www.3111skyline.com/download/screenshot/compiz/compiz-blue_8.452-1.jpg

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[opensuse] One-click-install from command line

2008-01-26 Thread Claes H
Hello,

how can I use one-click-install from the command line? I have tried
downloading a .ymp file and give it as argument to yast but it does
not work. For example using
/sbin/OneClickInstallUI /tmp/rtorrent.ymp. But it doesn't work, just
seems to hang! Seems using ymp files from the command line was not
considered?

Thanks
/Claes

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Re: [opensuse] Strange SATA problems with openSUSE

2008-01-26 Thread Clayton
  Has anyone encountered this before?  Could it be a hardware issue.. a
  failing SATA controller on the motherboard, or is it some obscure
  Linux thing?
 

 Please look at bug 331610 (and vote for it, if you think it relates to your
 problem).


I've looked at the bug, and voted for it.. it is essentially exactly
my problem.  I got a bit further than other people because I have IDE
drives in the mix.

How does my voting for this bug help though?  It is closed as
Fixed even thouhg it appears that no one has seen a fix for it
yet...  how is this fix supposed to be applied since the problem is
there on the master ISO?

I have rolled back to 10.2 and everything is running fine once again.
All the weird problems - including the SATA errors, the screen
resolution problems and the MPlayer video driver problems that I was
fighting with 10.3 are gone now that I am running 10.2.

For now... 10.3 is a total write-off for me.  I cannot install it on
my computer (AMD 64X2 6400+, 4GB RAM, ASUS M2N-E motherboard)... well
I can install it, but it is unstable, crashes all the time etc etc.
reminds me of 10.1 :-(

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Re: [opensuse] Will there be a LTS version of OpenSuse?

2008-01-26 Thread peter

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Johannes Nohl schrieb:

| The discussion seemed to be ended but the maintance release (!) of a
| LTS'ed Linux (http://www.ubuntu.com/news/lts-6.06.2) reminds me of
| this thread. I read that many responses to this release that I think
| the number of users must be extremly high. Most pointed out that they
| are not interested in cutting edge software but in stability. Don't
| you think a long time support release of opensuse will bring (more)
| people (back) to this great distribution?!

I would tend to agree. IMO there should be an additional LTS release of
Opensuse. I think it would be for both the users and the devs an
advantage and presumably not much of competition to SLES/SLED.
Before all I do like the bleeding edge touch of Opensuse. I always
update my distro when the third party repositories are available for the
new release. (Yes I know! Shame on me I don't work with you on factory
releases.) That's cool for a workstation, but what about server? Some of
us maybe even not quite few do need neither SLES for a
home-server/small-cap-server nor would even think of putting a bleeding
edge distro on such way destined machine. For my part I'm at the moment
thinking of setting up a home-server with a http and ftp deamon on it in
order to suit my very little business. Thus what distro do I shall
choose? 10.2 or maybe even 10.3? Definitely not. Sorry I won't. I tend
to use either Centos or even Debian, but I'd really love having the
opportunity to choose a LTS-Opensuse...

If providing a LTS-release then, it should be a stable one, with
security patches and updated with current stable kernels. I would even
pay for it, a reasonable amount of cash of course. I'd have no need for
phone or email support, but all patches, kernels and the this mailing list.

When (or if) my company gets bigger then believe me I will buy SLES, coz
then I'm convinced that I won't have much spare time but even more cash
to spare though. And a 24/7 supported SLES would even decrease my
administration costs and thus satisfy my very ugly opportunistic nature...

... and a 'centos-like' for SLES might come...

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Re: [opensuse] Kmail and taglines

2008-01-26 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Saturday 26 January 2008 13:20, Stan Goodman wrote:
 Is there a way that one can readily include randomized taglines in
 messages sent with Kmail?

KMail filters can be designated to act on outgoing messages only. 
Additionally, KMail filters can subject a message to processing through 
an external filter program. With these two features, one can easily 
adorn each outgoing message (including those that go only to certain 
lists) with a signature trailer synthesized by an arbitrary program or 
script.

Such a script could be as simple as this:

-==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==-
#!/bin/bash --norc

cat
echo '-- '
fortune
-==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==-


Now, I'll admit I'd never tried this before, so I gave it a shot using 
that exact script. Unfortunately, I found that while the message left 
in the sent-mail folder was modified as intended, the message sent 
was not!

If someone out there knows a way around this, please let us know.


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Re: [opensuse] printer paused after using xsane

2008-01-26 Thread Joe Morris

On 01/27/2008 05:37 AM, Ken Schneider wrote:

openSUSE 10.3, up to date with patches. HP LaserJet 3300 all-in-one.

Has anyone else come across the problem of xsane disabling the printer
after using the scanner of an all-in-one device? I don't recall this
happening with 10.0 which was installed previously. Perhaps this is the
new default for printer/scanner devices?

  
Are you sure it is xsane?  Are you using hplip?  version?  I remember 
several folks having a problem with the cups-autoconf program disabling 
the printer due to a setting.  I have a different device (Officejet 
5610), and scanning (I use Kooka) works fine.  I doubt scanning is the 
problem.  If you are able to use the scanner, then permissions should be 
setup correctly.  My guess is cups-autoconf.  IIRC, it was set to 
disable if it failed to autoconf or something, which could be set to not 
do that.  HTH.


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Re: [opensuse] amavisd warning failure?

2008-01-26 Thread Joe Morris

On 01/27/2008 04:03 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:


I'll give clamav a try, but I have to find a way to disable antivir: 
I do not want both running. I'll check the config.
Check the clamd entry in amavisd.conf.  All you would need to do is 
comment out the entry for antivir for it not to be used.

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Re: [opensuse] printer paused after using xsane

2008-01-26 Thread Ken Schneider
Joe Morris pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
 On 01/27/2008 05:37 AM, Ken Schneider wrote:
 openSUSE 10.3, up to date with patches. HP LaserJet 3300 all-in-one.

 Has anyone else come across the problem of xsane disabling the printer
 after using the scanner of an all-in-one device? I don't recall this
 happening with 10.0 which was installed previously. Perhaps this is the
 new default for printer/scanner devices?

   
 Are you sure it is xsane?  Are you using hplip?  version?  I remember
 several folks having a problem with the cups-autoconf program disabling
 the printer due to a setting.  I have a different device (Officejet
 5610), and scanning (I use Kooka) works fine.  I doubt scanning is the
 problem.  If you are able to use the scanner, then permissions should be
 setup correctly.  My guess is cups-autoconf.  IIRC, it was set to
 disable if it failed to autoconf or something, which could be set to not
 do that.  HTH.
 

OK, to be a little more precise. Printer and scanner both work fine.
But, after using the xsane program to scan something I have to use
cupsenable in order to print again. And yes the backend is hplip.

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Re: [opensuse] Will there be a LTS version of OpenSuse?

2008-01-26 Thread Philipp Thomas
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 23:30:40 +0100, peter wrote:

I would tend to agree. IMO there should be an additional LTS release of
Opensuse. 

This is comunity guys, so nobody stops you from doing something like
that, even though Novell will stick to the SLE/SLED products. Grab the
packages and do a stable release much in the way CentOS does it-

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Re: [opensuse] Will there be a LTS version of OpenSuse?

2008-01-26 Thread steve

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Johannes Nohl wrote:
| The discussion seemed to be ended but the maintance release (!) of a
| LTS'ed Linux (http://www.ubuntu.com/news/lts-6.06.2) reminds me of
| this thread. I read that many responses to this release that I think
| the number of users must be extremly high. Most pointed out that they
| are not interested in cutting edge software but in stability. Don't
| you think a long time support release of opensuse will bring (more)
| people (back) to this great distribution?!
|
| Johannes

That would be the equivalent of asking Red hat to make Fedora LTS, and
Novell to make opensuse LTS.  They both use members from the community
in addition to employees to develop packages, and they choose which
packages they wish to include in their LTS distros, Red Hat and SLED.

They are not going to support a distro that is not ready for enterprise
use. This is not in their business model.  But, it does open up support
for 3rd parties if they wish to support the community distros in the
enterprise.



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Re: [opensuse] Will there be a LTS version of OpenSuse?

2008-01-26 Thread peter

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Philipp Thomas schrieb:

| This is comunity guys, so nobody stops you from doing something like
| that, even though Novell will stick to the SLE/SLED products. Grab the
| packages and do a stable release much in the way CentOS does it-

Something like: If you want a nice vacation then why don't you build
your own hotel? This is that kind of logic I really admire, indeed.

And btw, you don't need to build anything. Just take SLES and its
updates  and do a re-branding. It's mostly open source. You just need
some little effort and one or two capable layers. But that not the
point. The point is to calculate what is better: To wait for such event
or to satisfy an existing demand among the users prior that event.

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2008-01-26 Thread peter

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steve schrieb:

| That would be the equivalent of asking Red hat to make Fedora LTS,

To late for that. There is already a stable re-branded RHEL called
Centos. I don't think that Red Hat is that lucky about it, even if they
don't admit it.

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2008-01-26 Thread peter

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steve schrieb:

| I know, anyway we look at it, we are the winners.  I just dont see
| novell changing their business model by supporting a community distro
| when they already are doing it with sled.

I'm afraid you're right on that, but I hope that they at least
appreciate the feedback they got from us. It could sometimes be more
worth than an advice of a Goldman Sachs investment banker... ;)

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2008-01-26 Thread steve

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peter wrote:
| steve schrieb:
|
| | That would be the equivalent of asking Red hat to make Fedora LTS,
|
| To late for that. There is already a stable re-branded RHEL called
| Centos. I don't think that Red Hat is that lucky about it, even if they
| don't admit it.
|

I know, anyway we look at it, we are the winners.  I just dont see
novell changing their business model by supporting a community distro
when they already are doing it with sled.




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Re: [opensuse] printer paused after using xsane

2008-01-26 Thread Joe Morris

On 01/27/2008 09:23 AM, Ken Schneider wrote:

OK, to be a little more precise. Printer and scanner both work fine.
But, after using the xsane program to scan something I have to use
cupsenable in order to print again. And yes the backend is hplip.

  
Assuming it does not only happen with xsane (which if it does, you 
should probably file a bug against xsane), check 
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=334166 and see if this fix 
affects it, or uninstall cups-autoconfig.  HTH.


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[opensuse] Display problem with a NVIDIA Geforce FX5500 card

2008-01-26 Thread Constant Brouerius van Nidek
My system is 10.3, fully updated, KDE as GUI.
After playing around with my NVIDIA settings I found out that I am not able to 
reboot anymore into my KDE environment
Do not know what is broken and reading the Xorg.93.log did not help.
The boot stops with a message saying:
Backtrace:
0: /usr/bin/Xorg(xf86SigHandler+0x81) [0x80e6d81]
1: [0xe420]

Fatal server error:
Caught signal 4. Server aborting


This is also the last part of the Xorg log file.
The messages in the logfile seem normal to me and I see no possibility to get 
my GUI back.
YAst and sax in the console refuse to work on the monitor graphic card.

How to get my gui back. Where should I start deleting config files in order to 
get sax working on a new setup?
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Re: [opensuse] printer paused after using xsane [SOLVED]

2008-01-26 Thread Ken Schneider
Joe Morris pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
 On 01/27/2008 09:23 AM, Ken Schneider wrote:
 OK, to be a little more precise. Printer and scanner both work fine.
 But, after using the xsane program to scan something I have to use
 cupsenable in order to print again. And yes the backend is hplip.

   
 Assuming it does not only happen with xsane (which if it does, you
 should probably file a bug against xsane), check
 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=334166 and see if this fix
 affects it, or uninstall cups-autoconfig.  HTH.
 

Thanks Joe for the tip. This did change the status of the printer after
using the scanner.

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Re: [opensuse] usb mouse not working

2008-01-26 Thread Constant Brouerius van Nidek
Dear John,
Think that apart from your USB mouse for which I have no solution, your clock 
is also slightly off. Have a look.At my place it is now sunday the 27 of 
january. Your message seems to be written in four days from now.
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[opensuse] Alt-F2 Alt-F1 Not Working with Compiz-Fusion Anymore

2008-01-26 Thread Chee How Chua
Hi,

I can't get Alt-F2 to bring up the Run Command dialog box - it used to
be working fine before.

I've already searched through the archives and found
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2007-08/msg01595.html

The proposed solution is to use gconf-editor which I don't have
installed. I know that gconf-editor stores registry-like settings for
applications, including Compiz-Fusion which is what I'm using.

When I checked the preference settings with the Fusion Icon in my
system tray, it says that my backend is a Flat-file Configuration
Backend. Does this mean that the Compiz-Fusion settings are not set
with gconf-editor? If so, which file do I modify to get my Alt-F2
working? I'm so used to using it by now. For that matter, my Alt-F1 is
also missing. I can't get the Kicker menu with Alt-F1 now when in the
past, I could.

This happed after I played with multiple monitors and Compiz-Fusion
enabled. So apparently I screwed something up, but don't know what.
And it's not my key, cos Ctl-Alt-F2/F1 works fine.

I'm using 10.3 with KDE3 and Compiz-Fusion.

Appreciate any advice.

Cheers,
How
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Re: [opensuse] Root antivir ?.

2008-01-26 Thread Erik Jakobsen

M9. wrote:



Not nice... at all...

Are you sure you checked if the new 1.6 was set as default?
Did you use this page to verify your version?
http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp


Yupp I did test it:


Verified Java Version

Congratulations!

You have the recommended Java installed (Version 6 Update 3).  



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Re: [opensuse] Root antivir ?.

2008-01-26 Thread Erik Jakobsen

Joe Sloan wrote:

So it actually runs, but you are curious about the error?

ISTR something about an environment variable SLOPPY_LOCK or similar,
which some have reported success with.

It sounds like this antivir is basically a curiosity - OTOH if your
system is a server to windows clients, then there is a need for AV- but
clamscan is better suited to scripted checks, and samba has hooks into
clamav for real time on access scanning, so that's probably your best
bet anyway.



  

Yes Joe it runs.

No it's not a server. It's a workstation.

Maybe I shall migrate to clamav.

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[opensuse-packaging] Black magic building Virtualbox?

2008-01-26 Thread Claes Backstrom
Hi.

I wonder if there is some black magix involved to build Virtualobx on
x86_64. To my understanding it needs bin86 or dev86 to build but those
packages don't exist as x86_64 packages. So how should this be handle
in the build service?
And what does this lines in the spec file do:

# WARNING: This is not a comment, but the real command to repack souce:
#%(sh %{_sourcedir}/%{name}-patch-source VirtualBox-%{version}_OSE.tar.bz2)

It triggers an error for me.

Warm Regards,
Claes Backstrom
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