Re: [opensuse] Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections

[Billie Erin Walsh]

> On Tuesday 07 August 2007 09:28, Registration Account wrote:
> > > As you know clamAV provides NO realtime virus detection
> > > and from time to time we all need to execute a clamscan
> > > - Well I just performed a clamscan and found 4 folder
> > > which a year or so stored and catagorised emails and
> > > all 4 folders were infected with
> > > Phishing.Heuristics.emal.spoofedDomain virus's. As
> > > almost all emails are held in mbox format I would
> > > suggest everyone to run a scan periodically. Remember
> > > clamAV provides NO repeat NO real time protection, even
> > > if you copy them to a MS Windows or NSF drive or open
> > > an infected file or execute an infected .bin file
> > >
> > > Scott
>

There is some thing that I don't understand.

Why would anyone keep every piece of mail that comes through? Especially
junk mail. I know another person that has never deleted any e-mail. She
actually got into a panic once when her computer died and she thought it
was all gone. She was able to retrieve it from her old hard drive. If
something important enough that I want to keep it comes through I print
it off and save it that way. Most of that stuff is genealogy related so
I can file in my cabinet.

"Phishing" e-mails are not a "virus". Just a scam. They do nothing
unless your stupid enough to click on the link and enter name and card
number [ and such ]. If I'm bored I will sometimes play with them. Click
the link and put in stuff like:
"Name" - John E. Hoover 
"E-Mail Address" - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I get lots of "phishing" attacks. Mostly from someplace pretending to be
eBay or Pay Pal. If you get one of these send it to "[EMAIL PROTECTED] or
paypal.com". Whichever is appropriate. Believe it or not eBay goes after
these people. Trys to get their ISP's to lock them out.

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Re: [opensuse] HP Pavilion DV6000 No Microphone input

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On 08/06/2007 Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
> Hi
>
> - Eh, mixer applet?
> - I fired up a KDE app called Kmix. In that I get two tabs, one
> output and one
> input. There's a mic input, the radiobutton i s red. When I click it,
> it
> becomes pink (sort of), not green. I push the vertical slider to the
> top.
>
> Still no sound.
>
> Does this help?

Install "alsamixer" and "alsamixergui".

Open and turn on the mic.

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Re: [opensuse] opensuse.org site updates

[Billie Erin Walsh]

On 07/29/2007 Randall R Schulz wrote:
> Well, what URL, then? It (the one Bill Walsh wrote me about)
> certainly
> is not present at .

http://www.opensuse.org/

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Re: [opensuse] KDETV

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On 07/16/2007 Herbert Graeber wrote:
> Looks like it crashed X. It's likely that the fault is in the driver.
> In the
> video options it is possible to select which driver features (Xv,
> XvMC,
> OpenGL, etc.) will be used by kdetv. Maybe you can avoid the crash
> trying
> another than the default configuration.
>
> Cheers,
> Herbert

Thank you for the suggestion. I'll check it out.

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[opensuse] KDETV

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All of a sudden KDETV is acting up. It starts just fine then all of a
sudden the computer does something like change users. Goes to a log in
screen.

It started a couple weeks ago but it's not something I use everyday so I
just been playing around. Not the end of the world but annoying.Any ideas?

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Re: [opensuse] Re: WMV plugin question

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On 07/08/2007 joe wrote:
> Why not just install the libdvdcss stuff via yast - add the vlc repo
> as
> described in the opensuse.org wiki, and you're good to go.
>
> Let the system work for you!
>
> Joe

AMEN!!!

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Re: [opensuse] Looking for Kernel .20

[Billie Erin Walsh]

Kai Ponte wrote:
> I'm curious - any idea as to when kernel version 2.6.20 might be
> released to us SUSE folk?
>
> I want to use it to gain a feature on my laptop (integrated media
> reader) that .18 won't support.
>
> I don't particularly feel comfortable rolling my own kernel.
>
>   

It "was" available on the factory repo for a short time. Like an idiot I
didn't save it somewhere locally. It was a much better kernel with
10.2x86-64.

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Re: [opensuse] Question for openSUSE installation disk space.

[Billie Erin Walsh]

Randall R Schulz wrote:
> On Wednesday 04 July 2007 08:13, Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>   
>> Not that you probably want to but the simplest way to install is to
>> wipe the hard drive, reload whatever version of Windows you want to
>> use
>> 
>
> Up to here, this certainly is a _simple_ solution. Simple to describe, 
> at least.
>
>
>   
>> and get it working properly [ using the whole disk ].
>> 
>
> But this little bit makes it rather difficult in practice.
>
> I don't think it's a _good_ solution unless you're really willing to 
> treat the computer like a new one.
>
> I don't know about most people, but it takes me days and days to get a 
> system the way I want it. Saving and restoring all one's data and 
> re-installing all one's applications is time-consuming, tedious and 
> probably error-prone.
>
>
>   
>> ...
>> Billie Walsh
>> 
>
>
> Randall Schulz
>   

I totally agree with you. HOWEVER, sometimes it works best.

If Windows is working properly OpenSuSE will resize the partition and
repartition everything just fine. No mucking about by someone that
doesn't really know what they are doing with partitions. [ Me included ]
The OpenSuSE installer is one of the best at this sort of thing. Let it
do it the right way the first time.

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Re: [opensuse] Question for openSUSE installation disk space.

[Billie Erin Walsh]

Not that you probably want to but the simplest way to install is to wipe
the hard drive, reload whatever version of Windows you want to use and
get it working properly [ using the whole disk ]. Pop in the Linux
CD/DVD and let it do all the work for you. During the install process
you can decide how much disk space you want Linux to take and use.
Forget all about all the gparted stuff. Let the OpenSuSE installer do
all the work.

No muss. No fuss. No sweat. No strain.

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Re: [opensuse] Google has an openSUSE repository

[Billie Erin Walsh]

On 07/01/2007 Kevin Donnelly wrote:
> I get a 404 Not Found from the suggested
> http://dl.google.com/linux/rpm/stable/i386 -
> http://dl.google.com/linux
> doesn't seem to exist, which means that the instructions for all the
> Linux
> distros will not work.  That makes me wonder about how
> well-maintained the
> site is 

When I tried to look into the site I got the same thing. BUT, when I put
it in Yast Install Source it worked. I then went into Software
Management and searched for "google" with all the box's checked. Didn't
find to much. Did a search for "google earth", nothing. I don't know
what the heck is in there but it seems a valid [ acceptable ] Yast source.

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Re: [opensuse] Intel Core Duo "buggy as hell"?

[Billie Erin Walsh]

On 06/29/2007 russbucket wrote:
> How about openSUSE 10.2. I'm looking at a new systen with Intel Core Duo
> processor?

I bought this machine, brought it home, installed 10.2 x86-64 and have
had very few complaints. Most of my complaints have centered around HAL.
It seems that HAL has been fixed, at least to some degree, in one of the
updates somewhere along the line as it works pretty well most of the
time. [ not great and not all the time but better than before ] AND I
didn't install Smart [ Stupid ] from the git go.

Linus Thorvald said the problems with the dual core was no problem and
so far I haven't seen where it is. Now that doesn't mean that when you
install you won't run face first into one of the problems because your
computer use and mine will be different. [ In other words, YMMV ] But
for me it has been a very good setup. It's been about seven month's and
I'm a happy camper with 10.2 x86-64 and a dual core Intel.

Don't sweat the petty stuff, and don't pet the sweaty stuff.

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Re: [opensuse] Announcing Hack Week

[Billie Erin Walsh]

Fajar Priyanto wrote:
> On Thursday 28 June 2007 22:16, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
>   
>> Thanks Jana,
>> I like to fantasize things and this idea.opensuse.org is really feeding my
>> hunger well :)
>> 
>
> I think I'd like to share it with the list :)
> http://idea.opensuse.org/content/ideas/voice-greetings
> If you like it, pls vote for it :))
>
> Just like in the movie, the computer will greet us according to the time of 
> the day, such as “Good Morning, Fajar.”
>
> And to extend it: The computer remembers our habit, and when we logon a bit 
> early, the greetings could be “Good Morning, Fajar. Wow, you wake up early 
> today!”
>
> When user logoff, the computer will say something like, “Goodbye, Fajar. See 
> you soon”
>
> One more important thing, there are 2 or more choices of voice, one with a 
> heavy male voice, and the other is a very nice “those famous female computer 
> voice in movies”. Or, user can record their own greetings.
>
> I can't wait for those moments come true.
>   
I don't think I'm ready for Star Trek. I just want a computer that does
what I want it to do, NOT what I tell it to do.

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Re: [opensuse] Unsubscribe help

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Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 06:44 -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>   
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am trying to unsubscribe.  The system does not seem to accept my  
>> reply to the unsubscribe message, even though I am copying and pasting  
>> the unsubscribe address directly as instructed.
>>
>> Help.
>> 
>
> Well then just hit reply instead and it should just work.
>
>   
Just a thought, but are you trying to un-sub with the same e-mail
address you sub'ed with? Sometimes if your mail comes from a different
server/ISP it won't work.

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Re: [opensuse] Stupid Updater and Stupid Installer - IMHO

[Billie Erin Walsh]

On 06/23/2007 Kenneth Aar, Grafikern.no wrote:
> Now hold on. I agree it is lacking in layout usability but it does
> work and, whats more it is the fastest gui installer I have ever
> used. You should try it. Time your self installing a small app like
> kibadock in yast and in smart (from you start yast or smart to you
> close it.). In smart I use less than 40 seconds. In yast I use 4min
> and 50 sec! And I have 3500 mhz processor  3 GB ram box so don't say
> it's my hardware either...

I hate the interface so much I don't EVEN want to waste my time trying
to find what I want.

I have a 3.2 GHz dual core with only 1Gig. I actually don't find Yast
install time to be an issue, unless I'm doing something like twenty or
thirty at a time [ then just flip over to another desktop and keep
playing ]. My connection is FAST so there's very little lag time during
the download.

No thanks. I'll stick with Yast. IMHO, Smart just ain't.

My ol' granpa used to say, "If'n it ain't broke, don't fix it." Yast
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Re: [opensuse] Re: simple LAN

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G T Smith wrote:
> Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
> > On 06/22/2007 G T Smith wrote:
> >> I am intrigued by the concept of 3 levels of firewall giving 5
> >> firewalls, enlighten me on the math please?
> > It's a wireless ISP. He has fiber to his "office" where he has one
> > firewall. Each "repeater" has it's own firewall. I'm three bounces from
> > his "office". Then my own router has it's firewall. Last time I checked
> > we were about 9 nano-seconds from the fiber [ radio propagation speeds
> > and all that ]. The speed is better than DSL and Cable.
>
>
> I think there is one word for this
>
> aaargh!! :-)
>
Hey. At least all I need to worry about is my system and my computer.
Network problems, just call Sam and let him tear his hair out.
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[opensuse] Stupid Updater and Stupid Installer - IMHO

[Billie Erin Walsh]

The official name is "Smart" but they definitely aren't "smart".

Stupid Updater says I have six (6) updates available. Click on the
"install". Asks for root password. Goes through five minutes of
gyrations. Says there are no available updates. IF there are no updates
available why did it say there were six? OpenSuSE Updater is a much more
reliable program AND simpler to work.

Stupid Installer probably has the very worst user interface I have ever
seen on any program. Even Microsoft doesn't do anything that stupid.
Yast is FAR AND AWAY superior in almost every way possible. More
intuitive. More friendly. AND best of all, it just simply works.

With YAST and YOU to even contemplate something like "Smart" is ridiculous.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: simple LAN

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On 06/22/2007 G T Smith wrote:
> I am intrigued by the concept of 3 levels of firewall giving 5
> firewalls, enlighten me on the math please?

It's a wireless ISP. He has fiber to his "office" where he has one
firewall. Each "repeater" has it's own firewall. I'm three bounces from
his "office". Then my own router has it's firewall. Last time I checked
we were about 9 nano-seconds from the fiber [ radio propagation speeds
and all that ]. The speed is better than DSL and Cable.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: simple LAN

[Billie Erin Walsh]

On 06/22/2007 James Knott wrote:
> I access my home system frequently.  For example right now I'm at
> work and getting my email from an IMAP server on my main home
> computer.  To get there, I run OpenVPN, which gets me through my
> firewall and to all the resources on my home network.  I also have
> SSH available, should I choose to go that way.

If I'm out somewhere with my laptop I just log in and download my mail
directly from the server. That's why I turn off my desktop when I'm
going to be gone long enough to need to do my e-mail [ If I'm not going
to be there for any length of time why give it the wear and tear? ] I
have all the necessary "resources" I need right on my laptop. My needs
are VERY simple. Genealogy program, E-mail, Browser, and such addons as
PDF viewers. In some certain rare cases I might want to watch a DVD or
listen to a CD so I need programs for that. That's about it. I don't
"work" in a place that I need presentation stuff or any of the more high
powered stuff. I don't have any need to swap files from home to work and
back again. Just consider me the average home computer user.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: simple LAN

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James Knott wrote:
> Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>> Our ISP has a master firewall on his fiber connections that is WAY more
>> powerful than anything I would pay for. We are three layers inside his
>> network.
>
> ISP firewall?  What happens if you want to connect to your own
> network, via SSH or VPN?
>
>
Never do that. If I'm out of town and using my laptop the computer is
usually turned off. If I'm just running around town, and IF I should
take my laptop for some reason, I can't think of any reason I would need
to. Any pertinent data I might need at any given time is already on my
laptop. I honestly can't think of any reason to need to connect to my
desktop. Someday that may change but for
now.  I'll cross that bridge when the time
comes. I'm sure there is some way to get there . Have to ask Sam if/when
the time comes.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: simple LAN

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Jonathan Arnold wrote:
> Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
>   
>> Thu, 21 Jun 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>>
>> 
>>> Kenneth Schneider wrote:
>>>   
 On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 11:00 +0100, Robert Best wrote:
 
>>> It is a Speedtouch ADSL modem. Don't know about firewall
>>> capabilities.
>>>   
 The "firewall capabilities" used by most of these modems is called NAT
 which stands for Network Address Translation ( there are other features
 available ). What this basically does is prevent an outside connection
 to an inside PC because there is no direct access via an outside IP
 address to an internal IP address. When you request an outside
 connection, lets say a connection to a web site, the modem automagically
 provides a temporary connection for you and drops it when the request
 has ended ( the web page has been loaded ).
 
>>> Yes, exactly. I've never understood the Wild Eyed(tm) insistence on a
>>> firewall, as I imagine there very few installations where a user's computer
>>> is directly on the Internet these days. I always  run behind a router,
>>> and thus don't need a firewall. If you have your cable modem plugged
>>> into a switch or router (ie, if your computer is on a 192.168 network),
>>> you don't need a firewall. And yet I can't get Windows to stop complaining
>>> about the fact I don't have the firewall turned on.
>>>   
>> 
>
> Yes, not to say there aren't always exceptions, but I'm still willing to
> bet firewalls, for many people, have caused more problems than they have
> solved.
> 
>
>   

Our ISP has a master firewall on his fiber connections that is WAY more
powerful than anything I would pay for. We are three layers inside his
network. Each access point has it's own powerful firewall. This feeds
through the modem to a router with a firewall. That's five firewalls
between me and the fiber. If they want in bad enough to get through all
that they can have it. I can't see where having a firewall on my
computer is going to make any difference.

Besides all that, if they want you bad enough they WILL get you.
Firewalls are like padlocks. They keep honest people honest. The only
sure fire way to keep someone out of your computer is to unplug the
network cable, remove the modem, and unplug it from the wall. Anything
short of that...NO guarantees.

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Re: [opensuse] SORTA SOLVED - Oo Question

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Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 14:36 -0500, Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>   
>> Pueblo Native wrote:
>>     
>>> Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>>>   
>>>   
>>>> On 06/19/2007 Dave Barton wrote:
>>>>   
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Menu "Insert -> Picture -> Scan"
>>>>>
>>>>> If you mean OCR directly, the answer is no.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>> 
>>>>>   
>>>>>   
>>>> Thanks. I was afraid of that.
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> Check out the ocrad package if you want to do OCR.
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
>> I checked with Yast and did indeed already have ocrad installed. It was
>> the usual OCR disappointment.
>>
>> 
>
> I use SimpleOCR running under wine with quite good results. You might
> give it a whirl.
>
>   
Actually I think I will just forget about OCR. In all the years it's
been available I have never seen one that works worth spit anyway.

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Re: [opensuse] Booting different distros

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Fernando Costa wrote:
> I'm planning to install some linux distros (openSUSE is the first one
> I've installed), I already have done the disk partitioning, including
> one partition to install GRUB, so I installed the grub on the boot
> partitioning, however when I installed openSUSE 10.2, it (apparently)
> overwrites my existing GRUB partition, because when I restart my laptop
> the openSUSE's and not my GRUB starts. So, there's a way to install the
> boot on the openSUSE's root? Or how can I use openSUSE's grub to run the
> other distros?
>
> Thanks for your help
>   

I have this computer triple booted, Now I have to say right up front
that my computer has a built in boot loader. During the "POST" it comes
up as  and .  I use one IDE drive
and, so far, two SATA drives. Whichever drive I want to install on I
disconnect the power to all the other drives before I install. That way
each drive thinks it's the only one in the machine.

Now, I know there are ways to set up all the OS's in Grub, BUT when I
had things that way and I needed to do something to the drive that had
Grub on it I was pretty much screwed. I would loose Grub or had to futz
around for hours trying to get things working again. Tain't worth the
hastle. I simply pick which drive I want to boot from and I'm off and
running.

This method only works with one IDE and SATA drives and a boot loader
other than Grub. A slave IDE won't work. Somehow the bios doesn't like
to boot from a slave directly. Even with the bios settings for it to do
so. SATA drives don't have Master/Slave relationships so they work.

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Re: [opensuse] Oo Question

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Pueblo Native wrote:
> Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>   
>> On 06/19/2007 Dave Barton wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> Menu "Insert -> Picture -> Scan"
>>>
>>> If you mean OCR directly, the answer is no.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>>   
>> Thanks. I was afraid of that.
>>
>>   
>> 
>
> Check out the ocrad package if you want to do OCR.
>
>
>   

I checked with Yast and did indeed already have ocrad installed. It was
the usual OCR disappointment.

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Re: [opensuse] Oo Question

[Billie Erin Walsh]

On 06/19/2007 Dave Barton wrote:
> Menu "Insert -> Picture -> Scan"
>
> If you mean OCR directly, the answer is no.
>
> Dave

Thanks. I was afraid of that.

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[opensuse] Oo Question

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Probably in the wrong place but.

Is there a way to scan a document into Oo?

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Re: [opensuse] bugzilla.novell.com ?

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On 06/18/2007 Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> LOL. Good one James. Reminds of when I need to call my ISP to report
> an
> outage and the on hold messages keep telling you to report problems on
> their web site. You know the one you can't get to because you have an
> outage.

It isn't "hold", it's ignore.

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Re: [opensuse] Maybe OT: Upgrade problem

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Hmmm!

It appears the hijacked thread has been hijacked yet again.

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Re: [opensuse] simple LAN

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> I have two computers running SuSE 10.2 and connected by Ethernet
> cables
> > to the same ADSL router. Internet works fine on both computers.
> >
> > Please help to configure a LAN to transfer files (FTP) from one
> computer
> > to the other. I cannot figure out from Ch 21, Basic Networking in
> the
> > Reference documentation, how to do it.
> >
> > Robert Best
> > --
> > http://rwbest.no.sapo.pt/

We have five, minimum at any given time, computers. I use Samba to
drag-n-drop files from one to another. Simple, effective, and quick.

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Re: [opensuse] hello list

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On 06/04/2007 Munkii wrote:
> sarcasm? i'm subscribed to eight mailinglists, when there're over 200
> new email in your inbox daily, you miss out on the important ones, (and
> god help you if you are using gnome's mail-notifier) i just don't like
> to go through 900+ emails to get to the ones i want.

This list is easy. Just delete anything from a thread over two days old.
After two days everyone with something intellegent to say is done and
it's just more list spam.

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Re: [opensuse] system does not boot

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On 05/28/2007 Jonathan Ervine wrote:
> You may be getting confused with Rescue System from the first CD (or
DVD) and
> single user mode. Single User mode *will* require the root password to log
> in, whereas booting from the first install disk and selecting Rescue
System
> should just require using the username root.
>
> Take care,
> Jon

Put in the DVD. When the boot menu comes up select "Rescue System". Long
string of stuff scrolls up screen. Stops with "username". Type in
"root". The next line is "password". Hit  and it comes back with
invalid password. Stops with "Password" again. Type in the system root
password and comes back with invalid password.

Boot up from the installed system and choose [ whatever it is that leads
to just the CLI ]. When it stops at "username" put in "root" and hit
. Next line up is "password". Type in the system password and it
boots. I had to do this several times with a certain VERY particular
monitor I was using. Install would not configure it properly but sax2
from the command line would.

I don't think I'm confusing the two.

Usually if I need to try to repair the system I let it boot from the DVD
into "install" mode. After it does it's system check it will give the
option to repair system. After a few ID-Ten-T errors I have used this
system. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

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Re: [opensuse] system does not boot

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On 05/28/2007 Jonathan Ervine wrote:
> You may be getting confused with Rescue System from the first CD (or
DVD) and
> single user mode. Single User mode *will* require the root password to log
> in, whereas booting from the first install disk and selecting Rescue
System
> should just require using the username root.
>
> Take care,
> Jon

Put in the DVD. When the boot menu comes up select "Rescue System". Long
string of stuff scrolls up screen. Stops with "username". Type in
"root". The next line is "password". Hit  and it comes back with
invalid password. Stops with "Password" again. Type in the system root
password and comes back with invalid password.

Boot up from the installed system and choose [ whatever it is that leads
to just the CLI ]. When it stops at "username" put in "root" and hit
. Next line up is "password". Type in the system password and it
boots. I had to do this several times with a certain VERY particular
monitor I was using. Install would not configure it properly but sax2
from the command line would.

I don't think I'm confusing the two.

Usually if I need to try to repair the system I let it boot from the DVD
into "install" mode. After it does it's system check it will give the
option to repair system. After a few ID-Ten-T errors I have used this
system. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

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Re: [opensuse] system does not boot

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Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-05-28 at 09:23 -0500, Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>   
>> Jerry Feldman wrote:
>> 
>>> On Mon, 28 May 2007 13:31:53 +0200
>>> "Amr M. Salah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
>>>> Thanks Carlos for your fast replay 
>>>>
>>>> But excuse me I do not understand any thing, I'm sorry to disappoint you ,
>>>> but I'm not a Linux pro
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> The Installation DVD/CD gives you several choices:
>>> Boot from Hard Disk, install, rescue among other things.. The rescue
>>> mode is a command line interface. 
>>>
>>> If you boot the installation system, and try an upgrade install, select
>>> packages, and force install glibc. This will remove the bad glibc and
>>> install the new one. 
>>>
>>> Also go into the disk partitioner and make sure that your partition
>>> scheme is listed correctly. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
>> One other little tid bit of information he will need as a newbie is how
>> to log in under the rescue mode. I've never been able to figure it out.
>>
>> 
>
> root 
>
>   
It asks for a password

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Re: [opensuse] system does not boot

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Jerry Feldman wrote:
> On Mon, 28 May 2007 13:31:53 +0200
> "Amr M. Salah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> Thanks Carlos for your fast replay 
>>
>> But excuse me I do not understand any thing, I'm sorry to disappoint you ,
>> but I'm not a Linux pro
>> 
> The Installation DVD/CD gives you several choices:
> Boot from Hard Disk, install, rescue among other things.. The rescue
> mode is a command line interface. 
>
> If you boot the installation system, and try an upgrade install, select
> packages, and force install glibc. This will remove the bad glibc and
> install the new one. 
>
> Also go into the disk partitioner and make sure that your partition
> scheme is listed correctly. 
>
>
>
>   
One other little tid bit of information he will need as a newbie is how
to log in under the rescue mode. I've never been able to figure it out.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: Bye Bye Vista - Hello issue with SUSE...

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FWIW

Since the last round of "updates" my Firefox 2.0.0.3-11.2 has developed
the bad habit of locking up from time to time.Usually if I just click on
the "x" in the upper right and go do something else for a minute I get
the "not responding" box and can kill it. So far I haven't narrowed down
what seems to cause it.

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Re: [opensuse] What's the point with 64 bit

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Tom Miller wrote:
> Pueblo Native wrote:
>> it seems that almost everybody I've talked to has advised me not to go
>> with the 64 bit version of OpenSuse because there really is no speed
>> advantage (if that's not good advice I'd like to hear otherwise).  So
>> then, if there is no speed advantage, what's the point in even having a
>> 64 bit processor right now?
>>   
> If you only have 2 gig of memory, 32bit will be faster.
>
>

It may just be my imagination, but x86-64 seems to be faster on my dual
core 3.2GHz with 1 G memory. It seems to me that the place I notice it
most is in Yast2 when it's refreshing the install repo's. It seems to
process the information faster. Everything else seems to go just a bit
faster, but Yast2 is where I notice it most.

As I said, it may just be my imagination. However, I wouldn't hesitate
to load it with just one Gig memory.

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Re: [opensuse] ntsc to pal

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I really believe it's a software issue rather than a hardware one. When
I bought my first DVD drive the software that came with it [ Windows
Power DVD ] said it would play any region DVD, but after five of any one
region it would lock to that region. I only have one non-USA region DVD
and I've only tried to watch it in Linux so.

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Re: [opensuse] Why are Novell guys closing perfectly valid bugs as WONTFIX due to their laziness ?

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Geez! I wish all I had to worry about in life were a few icons on my
desktop.

I think someone needs to get a life.

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Re: [opensuse] Google hosts as Ira Hyman introduces PC LinuxOS

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Pueblo Native wrote:
> Fred A. Miller wrote:
>   
>> http://newsblaze.com/story/20070502150502jnyc.nb/newsblaze/TOPSTORY/Top-Story.html
>>
>> "Are you an owner of an old laptop or a slow computer? Maybe you just
>> don't have the money to buy a new one at this point of time? Don't
>> worry. Ira Hyman gave his presentation on a seven year old 500 MHz
>> laptop using PCLinuxOS. He surfs on the Internet and does his daily work
>> without any problems. Like many other people I took away a free
>> PCLinuxOS CD. Having installed it after the meeting I've been using the
>> distro for a month now. I have never had to restart my computer and all
>> its applications run perfectly."
>>
>>   
>> 
>
> Not that I don't mind a little  extra publicity from time to time, but
> in an age of $300 computers at Wal Mart, do you really think people are
> going to use Linux just to bump up an old computer?
>
>   
Well, I would hate to tell you how many OLD computers I've refurbished
and given away to people that can't afford anything. Most in the 400 to
500 MHz range. There ARE people out here that can't afford to buy the
newest wiz-bang computers. Anything to wring a little more out of old
box's would be a great idea.
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Re: [opensuse] How to edit Grub in openSUSE 10.2?

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David Gregg wrote:
> Basically I have a dual boot with XP Pro and openSUSE 10.2 and I'd
> like to change the default boot options, but I don't know what
> commands to use in terminal to edit it. I already know about sudo and
> that the file is /boot/grub/menu.lst but both gedit and kate do not
> seem to work... maybe I just have my syntax off... gedit reports
> bad/unknown command and kate can't connect t x server...
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> David
Yast > System > Boot Loader
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Re: [opensuse] OT - Apple Computer new product announcement - ~AND~ OFFENSIVE

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Roger Dedrick wrote:
>
>
> John Andersen wrote:
>> On Friday 27 April 2007, Brad Bourn wrote:
>>  
>>> BTW:
>>> Misogyny is an exaggerated aversion towards women. Compared with
>>> anti-woman
>>> sexism, misogyny is usually regarded as directed against women by
>>> some men,
>>> though women can also harbor misogynistic views. In feminist theory,
>>> misogyny is recognised as a political ideology similar to racism or
>>> anti-Semitism, existing to justify and reproduce the subordination
>>> of women
>>> by men. The etymology of misogyny comes from the Greek and means to
>>> hate
>>> (misein) woman (gyne).
>>> 
>>
>> Boy, somebody was a real suck up in sensitivity training.!!
>>
>>   
> Boy it sure went over my head. I thought it was a joke busting on men
> being so shallow.

Actually I think you did get it.

Perhaps it hit just a tad close to home for some of the others.
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Re: [opensuse] OT - Apple Computer new product announcement

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On Fri 27 April 07 08:36, Stevens wrote:
>> Apple Computers developed a computer chip that can store and play music in 
>> women's breast implants.
>>
>> The iBreast will cost $599 and at 90GB will have capacity to store, organize 
>> & play 22,500 songs.
>> 

Why not. They got "I" everything else.

>> This is considered to be a major breakthrough, because women have always 
>> complained about men staring at their breasts and not listening to them.
>> 

Whether you like it or not it's true.

>> Thanks to Apple, everyone is now happy.
>> 
Lighten up. It's a joke and it's funny. Maybe ya'll just need to get a
funny bone.

Don't take life so serious. You aren't going to get out of it alive anyway.
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Re: [opensuse] Re: ATI Mobility FireGL graphics card -- experiences?

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Joachim Schrod wrote:
> Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>> Joachim Schrod wrote:
>>> Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>>>> Joachim Schrod wrote:
>>>>> Rajko M. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This maybe nothing new, but it is for sure openSUSE/SUSE Linux
>>>>>> specific.
>>>>>> http://en.opensuse.org/ATI
>>>>>> http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/17340.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, I haven't seem them before. Especially the information that
>>>>> ATI's driver doesn't survive a kernel update and needs to be
>>>>> reinstalled is very helpful.
>>>>
>>>> I have an eMachine Intel dual core with ATI graphics card, Xpress
>>>> something. Anyway, the darned thing would never work with 10.0 or 10.1
>>>> but 10.2 has always installed and worked perfectly [ and this makes
>>>> about my fourth install on this machine for various reasons - Mostly
>>>> ID-10-T errors ]. I even updated the kernel a couple times to the
>>>> 2.6.20* [ when I could find it on the factory site] from the 2.6.18*
>>>> kernel. The ATI drivers worked just fine through the upgrade.
>>>
>>> Interesting. How did you install ATI's driver?
>>>
>>> With YAST, using the repository that ATI provides (as per instructions
>>> at http://www.suse.de/~sndirsch/ati-installer-HOWTO.html), or by
>>> downloading and calling ati-driver-install (as per instructions on the
>>> OpenSUSE Wiki and the CoolSolutions article, referenced above)?
>>>
>>> Joachim
>>>
>> I didn't have to. The ATI drivers were automatically installed during
>> the hardware setup process of the install.
>
> Are you sure that you use ATI's proprietary fglrx graphics driver?
> It's not part of SUSE 10.2, AFAICS. (The specific graphics card that
> I'm looking for, FireGL V52xx, is not supported by the R300 (Radeon)
> Open Source driver; at least that's what all information pages tell me.)
>
> Joachim
>
If I remember right my graphics card is a Radeon 200 Xpress. I'm not
sure what SuSE uses for the driver. It may very well be the opensource
driver.
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Re: [opensuse] Re: ATI Mobility FireGL graphics card -- experiences?

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Joachim Schrod wrote:
> Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>> Joachim Schrod wrote:
>>> Rajko M. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This maybe nothing new, but it is for sure openSUSE/SUSE Linux
>>>> specific.
>>>> http://en.opensuse.org/ATI
>>>> http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/17340.html
>>>
>>> Thanks, I haven't seem them before. Especially the information that
>>> ATI's driver doesn't survive a kernel update and needs to be
>>> reinstalled is very helpful.
>>
>> I have an eMachine Intel dual core with ATI graphics card, Xpress
>> something. Anyway, the darned thing would never work with 10.0 or 10.1
>> but 10.2 has always installed and worked perfectly [ and this makes
>> about my fourth install on this machine for various reasons - Mostly
>> ID-10-T errors ]. I even updated the kernel a couple times to the
>> 2.6.20* [ when I could find it on the factory site] from the 2.6.18*
>> kernel. The ATI drivers worked just fine through the upgrade.
>
> Interesting. How did you install ATI's driver?
>
> With YAST, using the repository that ATI provides (as per instructions
> at http://www.suse.de/~sndirsch/ati-installer-HOWTO.html), or by
> downloading and calling ati-driver-install (as per instructions on the
> OpenSUSE Wiki and the CoolSolutions article, referenced above)?
>
> Joachim
>
I didn't have to. The ATI drivers were automatically installed during
the hardware setup process of the install.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: ATI Mobility FireGL graphics card -- experiences?

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Joachim Schrod wrote:
> Rajko M. wrote:
>>
>> This maybe nothing new, but it is for sure openSUSE/SUSE Linux specific.
>> http://en.opensuse.org/ATI
>> http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/17340.html
>
> Thanks, I haven't seem them before. Especially the information that
> ATI's driver doesn't survive a kernel update and needs to be
> reinstalled is very helpful.
>
> Joachim
>
OK, what am I doing wrong?

I have an eMachine Intel dual core with ATI graphics card, Xpress
something. Anyway, the darned thing would never work with 10.0 or 10.1
but 10.2 has always installed and worked perfectly [ and this makes
about my fourth install on this machine for various reasons - Mostly
ID-10-T errors ]. I even updated the kernel a couple times to the
2.6.20* [ when I could find it on the factory site] from the 2.6.18*
kernel. The ATI drivers worked just fine through the upgrade. [ wish I
had saved that darned kernel somewhere ] Now in the normal update
channels there is a kernel change that doesn't effect the drivers either.

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Re: [opensuse] Updating software via update sources?

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Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> * jdd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-18-07 13:01]:
>   
>> Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
>> 
>>> Software I would like to update is Thunderbird, Firefox, and OOo.
>>>   
>> these applications have very convenient native installers (from the 
>> own site), so no real need to go through openSUSE for them
>> 
>
> BETTER to go to openSUSE buildservice for the updates, then we will
> not have nearly as many questions about particular changes suseusers
> have applied that are not available or "don't work" the same.  Brings
> to mind the very long threads about the "Reply-to-List" function no
> being available on thunderburd mailer.
>
>   
All the latest Firebird and Thunderbird:

http://software.opensuse.org/download/mozilla/openSUSE_10.2/x86_64/

For Yast use:

http://software.opensuse.org/download/mozilla/openSUSE_10.2/

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Re: [opensuse] list options

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dwain wrote:
>
> I honestly don't know.  Maybe because I can.  I guess I could turn it off, 
> but 
> what the hey.  I'm an old man and I'm trying out new technology.  I came 
> kicking and screaming into the computer age in the late 1990s.  I had a 486 
> processor, 32MB RAM and a whopping 270MB hard drive using Windows for 
> Workgroups 3.1.1.  Now I'm doing Linux and I have fallen in love with it.
>
> I do web design and graphic design and I make computer and traditional media 
> art.  I like new things in technology; and although signing email is not new 
> it is to me.  It's there so I use it.  Maybe one day I won't.
>
> Would you like for me to turn it off, I will if you would like.
>
> I LOVE YOU
>
> Dwain
>
>   
Using it is ok. I just don't really see it anywhere but here. I've known
it was around but never looked into it.

Mostly just being nosey.

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Re: [opensuse] list options

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Andrew Colvin wrote:
> On Saturday 14 April 2007 23:52:29 dwain wrote:
>   
>> First, where do I find Kgpg and second, once I find it does it offer the
>> servers?  Like I have said before, I published the keys to the M.I.T.
>> server. Now I am being told to publish them again.
>>
>> Code on how to do this would be much appreciated.
>>
>> Dwain
>> 
>
> Dwain, 
>Your key is now found on the key servers.  Did you republish or was it 
> just 
> a replication issue?
>
> Andrew
>   
I just gotta ask. Why do you use the signature thing?

This is just about the only list I have ever seen it used.

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Re: [opensuse] OT: Win XP help--where?

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Doug McGarrett wrote:
>
> I think you misunderstand me.  The XP-SP2 is on a non-Linux machine,
> and I need to know how to make it work like -SP1.  It seems to have insulated
> all normal functions from the user, and I only found the Command screen by
> accident.  I need to know how to put the net interface in--it seems to think
> we still use modems--and on, and on.  What a piece of crap!  But I need it.
>
> --doug
>   

Start > Programs > Connect To

Are there any dial up accounts? Delete them.

Start > Programs > Accessories > Communication > Internet Connection
Wizard [ or something like that ]

Follow the prompts.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: Please make available a 2 DVD set for openSUSE 10.3

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Carlos F Lange wrote:
> 
> Is it so difficult to understand that we want to *purchase* the 2 DVDs 
> in a boxed set and *not* download any full package at all? The only 
> download required would be the delta security patches.
> This is what is being suggested here, that the boxed set goes back to 
> offering all packages from the repository, as in the good old days. 
> 
> If offering the second DVD for download is a problem, then include it 
> ONLY in the boxed set and all proponents and supporters of this 
> enhancement suggestion would be happy.
> 
> Carlos FL

I went and looked into the boxed set last night. It does NOT contain two
DVD's as some have said. It DOES contain one (1) DVD [ 32 and 64 bit
versions - supposedly dual layer I assume one layer is 32 and the other
is 64 ] and five *5) CD's [ 32 bit - four(4) install CD's and the
"extra" CD ].

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Re: [opensuse] Re: Please make available a 2 DVD set for openSUSE 10.3

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Randall R Schulz wrote:
> On Friday 13 April 2007 15:20, Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>   
>> ...
>>
>> And just what the heck are "delta iso's"? Don't even have a clue what
>> your talking about!
>> 
>
> Perhaps the term "difference ISO" would be more suggestive? They're a 
> file that tells the program "applydeltaiso" how to modify an existing 
> ISO file to produce a new one. Hence, "delta", a commonly used 
> mathematical term for "change."
>
> They're useful when the changes are small by comparison to either 
> version of the ISO file itself.
>
> On the other hand, it often takes hours for applydeltaiso to complete!
>
>
>   
>> - -
>> Billie Walsh
>> 
>
>
> Randall Schulz
>   
Oh. OK. I sort of understand. When I use Yast to update or install
something it says "applying delta" during the install a lot of the time.
Kind of like that.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: Please make available a 2 DVD set for openSUSE 10.3

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Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 06:14 -0500, Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>   
>> In all honesty I have been deleting most of this thread without reading.
>>
>> One thing that needs to be done is to start taking up a collection to
>> help openSuSE buy some modern servers so they can through away their
>> 286's. And then buy a better internet connection. I'm not rich by any
>> means but I could chip in some.
>>
>> "IF" there were two DVD's, and actually I do like the idea of having two
>> DVD's, I'm not so sure I would want to dedicate two or three days to
>> downloading them. It's bad enough having to pray that nothing goes wrong
>> for the twenty-some hours it takes to download one.
>>
>> 
>
> Then why not download the delta iso's instead and save yourself a lot of
> time.
>
>   
And just what the heck are "delta iso's"? Don't even have a clue what
your talking about!

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Re: [opensuse] Re: Please make available a 2 DVD set for openSUSE 10.3

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M Harris wrote:
> On Friday 13 April 2007 01:08, Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote:
>   
>> The proponents of this idea clearly dont have a clue what having yet
>> another DVD in the official media means. this is not your home network,
>> it is the second most popular linux distro out there, is not that easy
>> to scale at this proportions. please use your brain before proposing
>> such ideas.
>> 
>   Oh please.  Enough already with the lame excuses... there is nothing 
> wrong 
> with proposing an idea... in the States we call that brainstorming and its 
> helped us come up with some pretty snazzy Yankee know-how... you know... it 
> can't be done kind of stuff... don't ever tell me that your scaling problems 
> are my end-all... what a sting of Bologna... scale your mirrors and upgrade 
> your delivery system... you must know that eventually it will be *necessary* 
> anyway... just bite the bullet and make it happen... and stop whining about 
> it... I think Alexey has got a great idea... and except for choosing to live 
> in one of the most volatile locations on earth, he seems a pretty smart 
> fellow... :)
>
>
>
>
>   
In all honesty I have been deleting most of this thread without reading.

One thing that needs to be done is to start taking up a collection to
help openSuSE buy some modern servers so they can through away their
286's. And then buy a better internet connection. I'm not rich by any
means but I could chip in some.

"IF" there were two DVD's, and actually I do like the idea of having two
DVD's, I'm not so sure I would want to dedicate two or three days to
downloading them. It's bad enough having to pray that nothing goes wrong
for the twenty-some hours it takes to download one.

BEFORE you start griping that my connection is slow. It IS NOT slow. On
some severs I can get a 96/100kbs  download speed connection. On one I
actually had almost 130kbs download speed. On openSuSE I usually get
about dial up speed downloads. If the problem is not on my end it must
be on the other. I understand about connection loads but still
. dial-up speeds  come on! They need to upgrade
before they even consider doing anything about two DVD's.

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Re: [opensuse] TV tuners and alikes.

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Robert Smits wrote:
> On Thursday 12 April 2007 07:04, Clayton wrote:
>   
>> This popped up on the opensuse.us forum on Monday.  A good read, and
>> looks to be nicely compatible with Linux.
>>
>> http://lunapark6.com/usb-hdtv-tuner-stick-for-windows-linux-hauppauge-wintv
>> -hvr-950.html
>>
>> Maybe at least somewhat useful... of only as a reference.
>>
>> C.
>> 
>
> Nobody I know receives HDTV over the air. It's on the cable system. THAT is 
> what we need to be able to tune, not over the air broadcasts. What we need is 
> a plug in tuner that can deal with digital HDTV on Cable. (At least in 
> Western Canada).
>
>   
Here in Oklahoma City all the locals, well at least the major ones, are
broadcasting in digital/HD. One station has five sub-channels active.
Most just have two or three. Two if they are just doing digital and HD
of their normal programming and three, or more, if they are doing some
alternative programming [ channel five does their weather radar live
24/7 on one - it's funny when their Windows machine crashes on live TV
and they have to reboot.].

Digital/HD is here and in the USofA it will become the standard in the
next two or three years. Better start preparing for the switch over.

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Re: [opensuse] How to install 2.6.20 kernel on opensuse 10

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Jose wrote:
> Stuart wrote:
>> Jose,
>>
>> I installed from source pulled from kernel.org.  I don't know if
>> there are rpms anywhere for this.
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>> -Original Message-
>>  
>>> From: Jose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Sent: Apr 11, 2007 11:48 AM
>>> To: david rankin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Cc: Suse Linux 
>>> Subject: Re: [opensuse] How to install 2.6.20 kernel on opensuse 10
>>>
>>> david rankin wrote:
>>>
 Mates,

What is the best way to get and install the 2.6.20 kernel on
 Suse 10? Are there development binaries somewhere? Do I have to
 compile from source? I am doing this because I need the version 1.3
 dri kernel driver. Any other suggestions.

 -- 
 David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
   
>>
>>   
>
> Hi
>
> Nope, I don't think so, I had to build from scratch, I don't know of
> any distro using that version already. Even 10.2 does not come with
> that version.
>
> Here is a link for kernel compiling, free to download on pdf format:
>
> http://www.kroah.com/lkn/
>
> Hope it helps
>
>
Kernel 2.6.20.* used to be available from this address:

ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/x86_64

BUT, they now have dropped the 2.6.20.* in favor of an unstable
2.6.21.*.  I could just kick myself for not saving it while I had it on
my hard drive. BUT, I had a major problem and lost everything and had to
start over.  2.6.20.* worked VERY well with openSuSE 10.2.

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Re: [opensuse]

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Clayton wrote:
>
> What bug number is it?  I'm kinda curious to take  a look at what the
> issue is... not taht I can fix it or anything, but.. you know..
> interested in what the problem is.
I've spent the past thirty  minutes looking around the Novel site trying
to find the bugs. Finally decided it was hopeless.

I don't recall the bug number off hand. I "thought" it was connected to
my ID, but I guess that's not the case.

Anyway, whenever I try to mount any of the devices I get this message:

"Method "Mount" with signature "ssas" on interface
"org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" doesn't exist"

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Re: [opensuse]

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Clayton wrote:
>> Well..except for Hal and
>
> Never had a complaint about Hal.  It just works for me.  I do not need
> fixed mount points for automounted devices.  I have never had it fail
> on me.
I can't access my external floppy, zip drive or hard drive. All USB.
Mount fails with some stupid error. Mounting these drives worked
wonderful until Hal came along. Bug report filed but no joy yet.
>
>
>> Stupid.er.uh..I mean Smart.
>
> Well.. Stupid/Smart isn't technically "part" of the default distro.  I
> agree it's an annoying app - SmartGUI that is - compared to more
> intuitive and informative apps like Synaptic.  I've been told by
> "those in the know" that the SmartGUI is undergoing a major overhaul,
> and the new interface should be more user friendly and less of an out
> of touch developer's idea of what is good.  Fingers crossed.
I was referring to Smart Package Handler, or whatever the heck it is.
Yast is far superior.
>
>
>> and don't forget that stupid dog thingy.
>
> Not installed... so no problem. :-)  It does work in 10.2 though (in
> mine at least).  I did have it running for a while, and when I did use
> it, it worked.  I don't need it... I know where all my personal files
> are, so removed it as a redundant app
When I tried to leave it out this last time it gave me so many
dependency conflicts I just let it install. Nothing important, just
things like anything to do with KDE, or the OS. I could have tried just
ignoring it but...
>
>
>> AND, can someone explain in
>> SIMPLE English just what the h-e-double hockey sticks Aparmor is
>> supposed to do. Near as I can tell all it does is take up space on my
>> hard drive.
>
> Curtis Rey had a good comment on AppArmor a few months ago (3 January):
>
> "If you're running AppArmor - Don't!  It can interfere with apps and /dev
> access - it's designed for Enterprise/network servers with access to the
> outside world - generally overkill for home users and non-servers."
>
>
>> As for the Zen thing. Well, I find it quite useful, as long as you don't
>> install the "updater" portion. If you don't install Zen Updater openSuSE
>> Updater gets installed by default.
>
> I noticed the openSUSE updater thing when I hunted down and killed
> Zen.  I also stopped the openSUSE updater.  I use Smart on a regular
> basis and my apps are all on the rather gory bleeding edge.
openSuSE Updater works great. Stupid, wellWhen I have tried
it I just get so tired of trying to find anything I gave up. The way it
categorizes everything is an exercise in absolute stupidity.
>
>
> So... 10.2 and problems... I see mainly Zen, Beagle/Kerry and AppArmor
> that people complain about as simply not working or causing untold
> levels of havoc on their installs.  None of these 3 are critical, and
> can simply be removed without really being missed.
>
> Some don't like Hal for various reasons, but it seems to be rare that
> it's actually Hal that's broken more like personal choice where
> the user doesn't like how Hal handles mount points.
>
> Dunno... still seems to me that 10.2 is a pretty dang good release
> (after the post release patches are applied) :-)  The core of it works
> very well.  Like all software, it will never be perfect... but, as
> long as future releases work as good as or better than 10.2 I'm a
> happy camper.  I have recommended 10.2 to a whole lot of people...
> first time users.. and they are getting on very well with it.
>
> C.
My 'ol Granpappy used to say if it ain't broke don't fix it. IMHO, Hal
is an attempt to fix something that never was broke in the first place.

Smart needs to have the K.I.S.S. Principle applied to it.

Beagle, well it doesn't bother me like many others report. Just sort of
sits there in the system tray or the bottom corner of Firefox, or
whatever, and does nothing. If Beagle does a faster search than the
built in "find" it might be well worth it. Just never tried it.

Aparmor, about the same as Beagle. Just sort of sits there doing nothing.

Zen, as I said before. Some parts of it work a treat. Just leave out the
updater portion. It lets me install things that Yast won't/can't, like
Gramps that isn't on any of the suse sites. Like from my local Download
directory.

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Re: [opensuse]

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Clayton wrote:
>> ... for a release of openSUSE that will more stable and
>> bug-free than it
>> currently is!   I know... SLES and SLED are for that... and openSUSE is
>> *supposed* to be bleeding edge...
>
> Dunno... 10.2 is pretty rock solid for me.  I've had zero problems
> that were not self induced.  Fast stable etc etc.  Granted I DON'T use
> zmd/zen/rug or whatever it's called... so.. give that zmd isn't
> installed and borking things up, 10.2 is the most stable and bug free
> SUSE I've had in a long time... since 9.3 I'd say.
>
>
> C.
Well..except for Hal and
Stupid.er.uh..I mean Smart.  Oh yeah,
and don't forget that stupid dog thingy. AND, can someone explain in
SIMPLE English just what the h-e-double hockey sticks Aparmor is
supposed to do. Near as I can tell all it does is take up space on my
hard drive.

As for the Zen thing. Well, I find it quite useful, as long as you don't
install the "updater" portion. If you don't install Zen Updater openSuSE
Updater gets installed by default.

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Re: [opensuse]

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M Harris wrote:
> On Friday 06 April 2007 13:54, Tim Donnelly wrote:
>   
>> Somehow my disc one of my OpenSuse 10.1 x86 set has gotten messed up.  I
>> can't seem to find where "old" versions are available on the opensuse.org
>> site.
>>
>> Can someone provide me a link?
>> 
>   I think this just became the funniest post so far for the month of 
> April...
>
>   ... openSUSE 10.1 *WAS* messed up for everyone...  except those of us 
> smart 
> enough not to load it... shsh... so, uh, why would you want to reload it 
> from a know good, uh I mean messed up, disk?
>
>   :-)
I have 10.1 on another box and it works quite well. YMMV
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Re: [opensuse] witch one better

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Hudibras wrote:
> El jue, 05-04-2007 a las 14:43 -0500, Billie Erin Walsh escribió:
>   
>> Hudibras wrote:
>> 
>>> El jue, 05-04-2007 a las 08:39 -0700, BRUCE STANLEY escribió:
>>>   
>>>   
>>>> --- James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> bill biggs wrote:
>>>>>   
>>>>>   
>>>>>> witch one is better kde or gnome ?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which one is better Chev or Ford?  
>>>>>   
>>>> The correct answer is:   Honda!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> No! It's Michael Knight car !!! 
>>>   
>>>   
>> K.I.T.
>> 
>
> Yes! Though I think it was K.I.T.T. (I can't recall the meaning
> exactly).
>
>   
Your right. It is K.I.T.T.. Knight Industries Two Thousand

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Re: [opensuse] witch one better

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Hudibras wrote:
> El jue, 05-04-2007 a las 08:39 -0700, BRUCE STANLEY escribió:
>   
>> --- James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> bill biggs wrote:
>>>   
 witch one is better kde or gnome ?

   
 
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>> Which one is better Chev or Ford?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>> The correct answer is:   Honda!
>> 
>
> No! It's Michael Knight car !!! 
>   
K.I.T.

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Re: [opensuse]] Win vs Lin info - First Vista experience

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M Harris wrote:
> On Wednesday 04 April 2007 03:27, John Andersen wrote:
>   
>>> After switching on the system, it took 15-20 minutes before it showd a
>>> desktop. Huh, an Intel Core 2 Duo E6400, at 2.13 GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 1066
>>> MHz FSB 1GB Ram (DDR2 SDRam 533 MHz, 64 Bit), with NVidia GeForce 7650
>>> GS (256 MB DDR2 HDMI & DVI). Thereafter it takes 90-120 seconds to start
>>> WinVista.
>>>   
>> Something's hozed with that machine.  
>> Vista may have some problems, but that is not one I've seen.
>> 
>   Nope... 
>
>   ... this machine need *at least* one more GB Ram...  what a joke..
Microsoft said that Vista would run with 512. eMachine recommended 1 Gig
for my computer. Based on that, I figured an absolute minimum of 1.5 Gig
to have anything like an acceptable level of performance. [ Not that I
will ever know for sure. ]  Seems like Microsoft lowballs the "required"
memory numbers to sucker people in. 512 would probably have about the
performance level of my old 8088XT with the turbo mode turned off.

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Re: [opensuse] Beagle Configuration

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Rajko M. wrote:
>
> It is:
> http://en.opensuse.org/Zmd
> 
> and it is not necessary, since YaST is doing for years all that zmd should do 
> for individual user, but without hogging resources on smaller machines, ie. 
> without problems :-) 
> 
> Install opensuseupdater if you want notifications about security updates. 
> I wanted. 
> 
> Than remove zmd, zen-updater, zen-installer, zen-remover and rug. 
> 

There is one (1) aspect of zen that I DO like. There are certain
packages that I use that do not come from SuSE sources, Gramps for one.
Yast can't seem to install from my Download Directory since about 10.0.
It won't accept it as an install source at all. If I right click on it
there are two (2) "Open With" > "Install Software" things to choose
from.  The second one will do a VERY good job of installing the
software. The first one doesn't do much of anything as far as I can tell.

If I click on the RPM in Konqueror it, I guess, opens to another thing
with two boxes at the top. One says "Install With Yast" and the other
says to make it an install source. OK, Install With Yast - Yes - "No
source available". In 9.X [ whatever I was using ] Yast worked just fine
for installing things like Gramps from my Download Directory. Never
argued one bit.

In this one instance Yast does not do as well as zen. In every other
instance Yast is far superior to zen and Smart [ rather more like STUPID
IMHO ].

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Re: [opensuse] Beagle Configuration

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Joe Shaw wrote:
> Hi Michael,
> 
> On 3/28/07, Michael Letourneau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I know many (most?) dislike beagle and turn it off, but I actually have a
>> need to use it right now, and thought it would be a good solution to
>> finding some information I have mis-placed.
> 
> I'm the main developer of Beagle, so I'm certainly interested to know
> why people turn it off.  Is it a lack of necessity, is it a failure in
> user experience, is it misbehaving in some way (including CPU pegging
> or memory hogging)?  This is all useful information to me, and I want
> to fix any bugs people come across.

IMHO

Beagle has a use for someone that needs that type program. However, for
joe user that does e-mail, surfs the web and spends way to much money on
ebay [ myself ] it is not really a necessity. I don't use it simply
because I have no need for it.

It could be offered as an option during install. Sort of like the option
of KDE or Gnome. If someone has a need for it by all means install it.
Otherwise don't.

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Re: [opensuse] 2.6.20 for 10.2?

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John Andersen wrote:
> Is there a stable 2.6.20 kernel for openSuse 10.2, and has
> anyone had any good/bad experience with it?
> 

I've been using the "Default" 2.6.20.x kernel since RC2 and it has been
very good. No problems and very stable.

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Re: [opensuse] Anyone with working WinTV PVR350?

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Teruel de Campo MD wrote:
> Billie,
> 
> Hauppauge produce a huge amount of devices. The old winTV works ok but
> we are referring to the wintv PVR-250/350 (the only difference between
> the two is the hardware decoding for the tv out in the 350 otherwise the
> are the same) These superb cards produce a mpg stream that kdetv can not
> decode. Except is there a new version that I am not aware of this
> application it will not work. 
> 
> -=terry(Denver)=-
> 

To be honest I don't know the difference. These are cards that let you
watch TV on a computer. I don't know what the output of the cards are.
Don't really care as long as it does what I want. The software [ Windows
] that comes with them lets you do video capture but I don't use it
much. The few times I did give it a try for fun it didn't seem to work
all that well. A DVD Recorder hooked directly to the satellite box or
VCR/camera does a much better job with a lot less hassle.

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Re: [opensuse] Anyone with working WinTV PVR350?

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Charles philip Chan wrote:
> On 19 Mar 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> No matter how much of the myth stuff I install it never actually runs.
>> At best I get some sort of config screen and then nothing. Happens in
>> both 10.1 and 10.2/64. As I recall it was much the same with 10.0
>> also.
> 
> (1) Did you setup MySQL?
> 
> (2) Did you create the MythTV MySQL database?
> 
> (3) What errors do you get when you try to run it from a console?
> 
> Here is a detailed installation instructions:
> 
>  http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythInstall
> 
> Charles
> 

I looked through the pages. I think I will just skip it. Kdetv works
just fine. Myth looks like more trouble than it's worth. I got better
things to do than spend the next few weeks rebuilding my system just to
watch tv.

If they ever get something that you can just install and it works, I
might be interested. TV watching on my computer is not high on my list
of priorities. If I want to burn a few DVD's of my stuff I can hook up
the DVD Burner and a couple cables a LOT easier than I can do it with
the computer.

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Re: [opensuse] Anyone with working WinTV PVR350?

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Charles philip Chan wrote:
> On 19 Mar 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> I have a haupage in this box that works just fine with Kdetv. The
>> other one is the STB, also work fine with Kdetv.
> 
> I presume you have a dvb card which is different from the products we
> are talking about.
> 
> Charles
> 

I mislabels one of the cards. It's not the STB, it's the Super TV Tuner.
Sorry. The STB is down here in a box with some others.

I dunno. They're tv cards. Let you watch TV on your computer. The
Haupage is hooked to the outdoor antenna and the VCR. The Super TV Tuner
is connected to the DirecTV box. Both have 878 chips and a tuner. The
Haupage picks up all the broadcast channels in this area, plus channel
three for the VCR. The Super TV Tuner only needs to pick up one channel,
channel 3.

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Re: [opensuse] Anyone with working WinTV PVR350?

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Charles philip Chan wrote:
> Forgot to add, did you start mythbackend?
> 
> Charles
> 

Have something called MythTV Frontend in my menu. Doesn't seem to do
anything either.

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Re: [opensuse] Anyone with working WinTV PVR350?

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Charles philip Chan wrote:
> On 19 Mar 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> No matter how much of the myth stuff I install it never actually runs.
>> At best I get some sort of config screen and then nothing. Happens in
>> both 10.1 and 10.2/64. As I recall it was much the same with 10.0
>> also.
> 
> (1) Did you setup MySQL?

What's MySQL?

> 
> (2) Did you create the MythTV MySQL database?

I told it to on one of the config screens.

> 
> (3) What errors do you get when you try to run it from a console?

Never tried.

> 
> Here is a detailed installation instructions:
> 
>  http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythInstall
> 
> Charles
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Re: [opensuse] Anyone with working WinTV PVR350?

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Teruel de Campo MD wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 04:19 -0400, Charles philip Chan wrote:
>> On 19 Mar 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> I have a TV card in each of my machines. One a Haupage and the other
>>> is an old STB. The ONLY thing I have ever got to work with either one
>>> is Kdetv.
>> What problems do you have with MythTV? I have a WinTV 250 and it is
>> fully functional with MythTV. The only problem that I have had is that I
>> needed a modified version of lirc to get the remote fully functional
>> with ir-blaster. You are the first person that I that heard of who have
>> problems with the WinTV cards and MythTV. There are lots of people in
>> the MythTV list using these cards.
>>
>> Charles
> 
> 
> Charles you are correct. I have been using wintTV-PVR-350 since SuSE
> 9.1. Kdetv does not works with these cards.
> The cards need the ivtv modules which now is part of the kernel. Of
> course you can disable it and build the new releases as they come.
> There is not TV application to watch tv. Basically you have two ways to
> do it:
> 
> 1. you can pipe the output of the card (which is an mpg2 stream) to
> mplayer
> 
> 2. You can install mythtv which again under SuSE 10.2 all the rpm are in
> the distro and it is few clicks away.
> 
> WinTV is a great tv card.
> 
> Ciao
> 
> -=terry(Denver)=-
> 

I have a haupage in this box that works just fine with Kdetv. The other
one is the STB, also work fine with Kdetv.

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Re: [opensuse] Anyone with working WinTV PVR350?

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Charles philip Chan wrote:
> On 19 Mar 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> I have a TV card in each of my machines. One a Haupage and the other
>> is an old STB. The ONLY thing I have ever got to work with either one
>> is Kdetv.
> 
> What problems do you have with MythTV? I have a WinTV 250 and it is
> fully functional with MythTV. The only problem that I have had is that I
> needed a modified version of lirc to get the remote fully functional
> with ir-blaster. You are the first person that I that heard of who have
> problems with the WinTV cards and MythTV. There are lots of people in
> the MythTV list using these cards.
> 
> Charles
> 

No matter how much of the myth stuff I install it never actually runs.
At best I get some sort of config screen and then nothing. Happens in
both 10.1 and 10.2/64. As I recall it was much the same with 10.0 also.

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Re: [opensuse] Anyone with working WinTV PVR350?

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Charles philip Chan wrote:
> On 18 Mar 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> I put PIIX module in initrd, compiled custom kernel,
>> googled all around to no avail. Also changed PIIX=y in
>> .config file. hdparm -d1 /dev/hdb works a minute and
>> dma changes to (0) by itself.
> 
> See /etc/sysconfig/ide
> 
>> degan:# xawtv /dev/video
> 
> No, xawtv is not for Haupauge WinTV cards. Just open /dev/video0 with
> any video player, ie:
> 
>   mplayer /dev/video0
> 
> I suggest you install MythTV to get the full benefits of the card.
> 
> Charles
> 

I have a TV card in each of my machines. One a Haupage and the other is
an old STB. The ONLY thing I have ever got to work with either one is
Kdetv. Myth, Xawtv and all the rest just won't work for me. Kdetv takes
a bit of fussing around to get to work, but will work. Getting the
channels to lock in is the worst part.

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Re: [opensuse] Scanner for Linux - OT

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Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> * Billie Erin Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [03-17-07 10:21]:
>  [...]
>> OK, I'll stop ranting.
> 
> Please.  At least here.  You did mark it 'OT', BUT there is an OT list
> provided for this tipe of .
> 
> Please use the opensuse-offtopic list as intended and continue
> openSUSE operating system discussion here.
> 

I didn't start this line of this thread. It was posted here and deserved
to be answered here.

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Re: [opensuse] Scanner for Linux - OT

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Randall R Schulz wrote:
> On Friday 16 March 2007 19:17, Kai Ponte wrote:
>> On Friday 16 March 2007 06:55:15 pm Randall R Schulz wrote:
>>> On Friday 16 March 2007 18:22, Lee Ross wrote:
 ...
 I use an HP PSC 1315 from Sam's Club.
>>> How is Sam? Still dead?
>> He's spinning in his grave at the changes...
> 
> What? Death changed him from being a capitalist? Into what? I can't 
> imagine that he'd care about sending so much of America's money (that 
> of the lower classes, anyway) to wage slaves in China.
> 
> It's WIN-WIN!!
> 
> 
> RRS

When I first started working for Wally World it was ALL about American
jobs for American people. Sam was big on buying American made products
as much as possible. He gave contracts to small AMERICAN companies that
gave many several more years of production. In at least one case, that I
know of personally, he pulled a small company from the doorstep of
bankruptcy. A small clothing manufacturer was on the verge of losing
everything when Sam heard about it and gave them a VERY lucrative
contract. Kept their doors open for many years making clothing for Wally
World. Kept many AMERICANS employed.

There "used" to be a huge American flag over every service desk in every
Wal Mart in existence. There was also a sign hanging there that told
exactly how many American made products we carried. You saw very little
of that Chinese yellow cardboard in the back room. It was almost all
that good ol 'merican made brown cardboard. Sam was very proud to be an
American. He was proud of the fact that he bought as much American made
merchandise as was available, regardless of the fact that many times
there were "cheaper" foreign made products. He was proud of the fact
that he was helping to keep Americans in jobs.

Sam was not a "capitalist" in the usual sense of the word. What he did
was create a retail formula that is nearly impossible to keep from
making money through some VERY shrewed buying and marketing. He lost
something on the order of eleven million dollars in one day on the stock
market. When asked about it he replied, "It's only on paper."

The man was a genius. Take for instance the Ol' Roy dog food we sell. [
Malign it all you want, but it is Purina dog food. ] "We", the
warehouse, buy it in HUGE quantities and Purina pays the shipping to the
warehouse on Wal Mart trucks. The warehouse marks up the price and
"sells" it to the stores. Purina pays the shipping from the warehouse to
the store on Wal Mart trucks. "We", the store, mark it up and sell it to
the consumer. It retails for about $11+/-. It has already had two (2)
markups and two (2) shipping bills by the time it's sold. It's already
made a profit, even if we gave it away at the store level. And, it's
still about the cheapest priced dog food on the market. [ not cheap in
quality, but cheap in price. ]

Now! Sam is gone. The bean counters have taken over the company.
N.A.F.T.A. is here, and all the "American" manufacturing companies have
have fled for greener pastures outside our borders. Now there is no
American manufacturing. It isn't Sam's fault that things have turned out
as they have.

I work for Wal Mart. Have for sixteen years. I am proud of what Sam
stood for and built. The Wal Mart of today is NOT the company that Sam
built. Sam IS spinning in his grave over the changes that have been made
to HIS company. Sam cared about his people and his customers. Sam cared
about American jobs for American people.

The bean counters will drive the company under.

OK, I'll stop ranting.

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Re: [opensuse] Scanner for Linux

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Kai Ponte wrote:
> On Friday 16 March 2007 06:55:15 pm Randall R Schulz wrote:
>> On Friday 16 March 2007 18:22, Lee Ross wrote:
>>> ...
>>> I use an HP PSC 1315 from Sam's Club.
>> How is Sam? Still dead?
> 
> He's spinning in his grave at the changes...
> 

AMEN

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Re: [opensuse] Wireless mouse battery life [OT?]

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Robert Smits wrote:
> On Tuesday 13 March 2007 17:41, John Andersen wrote:
> 
>> Yikes. couple days?
>> Throw that thing away and get a Logitech wireless optical.
>> My wife got one for christmas and she till has not replaced
>> the batteries.  She uses it for a couple hours every day and
>> can't be bothered to shut it off.  It has some auto-power save
>> mode built in.
> 
> Why would I do that? It's about 30 hours of use, and costs me nothing but a 
> little bit of electricity. It's a nice mouse.
> 
> Bob

We bought a couple cheapie wireless keyboard/mouse combos from Wally
World back before Christmas. My better half uses hers almost everyday
and hasn't had to replace any batteries. I haven't tried mine 'cause I
don't know if we can use them so close together.

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Re: [opensuse] Bad RAM support

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Horst G. Burkhardt III wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Mar 2007, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
>   
>>> Back in the days when we had to whittle our own chips from wood, a 4K
>>> byte memory board was considered a lot!  
>>>   
>> I recall adding 32 32k memory chips to an add-on board to give my 286
>> 3mb total of system memory at a cost of ~us$300.00.  Had a 35mb
>> Seagate hard drive that lasted about 4 months.
>> 
>
> Hey pops, Could the 80286 even ADDRESS 3MiB of RAM? Oh never mind. My 
> documentation said it could address 16MiB of RAM ;)
>
> Maybe people just couldn't afford 16MiB back then ;)
>
> As for the Seagate, I'm horrified! You should have gone with Quantum and a 
> SCSI controller ;)
>
>   
I had an old 8088 with something called a Rampat board in it. I can't
remember just how much memory I had on it but it was four sticks. I want
to say 100M, but don't think that's right. Anyway, the 8088 had no idea
what to do with that much memory so I ran a ramdisk on it. When I picked
a program to run from the master bat file it would copy to the ramdisk
and execute from there. Ram was faster access than the hard drive.
Programs executed SO much faster it was unbelievable.

The computer didn't have anyplace to hold a hard drive so I found an
external SCSI box, but there were no SCSI cards for PC's [ that was
something only Macs understood ] so I ripped out the power supply,
mounted a 40M hard drive in it and ran the IDE ribbon from the add on
card out the back of the computer into the external box. For power I
used an old computer power supply sitting behind the drive box.

I've still got that rig around here somewhere. It wasn't elegant, but it
worked.

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Re: [opensuse] undeleting files [OT]

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Once there was a man that was on a long journey. Being a beautiful day,
and a great view, he decided to sit beneath a shade tree and rest a
while. On a branch above him was a beautiful bird. As he sat there
contemplating the beauty of the world around him the bird crapped all
over him. Angrily he stood up and began wiping the bird doo off. A
stranger that happened to be walking by saw all this and rushed over.
"Hey, don't wipe that off. That is a Foo bird. If it craps on you it
brings good luck. But, only if you leave it."

Well, to make a long story short. Horrible bad luck befell the man from
that day on.

Moral:

If the Foo shits, wear it.



 away all you want. Seems to be your best answer.

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Re: [opensuse] undeleting files [OT]

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IMHO:

If the e-mail settings for the list are to reply to the sender, there
should be no complaint if someone does just hit the reply. It is, after
all, the way the list is engineered, so quitcherbitchin. There's a key
marked "Delete" on every keyboard in existence. Take a good look and
learn where it is. I use mine a LOT.

There are some people in this world that could use a little "politeness"
training. They snap and snarl like junk yard dogs at the least little
provocation.

Opinions are like A___holes. Everyone has one. Oft times they stink.

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Maybe a little notice, and a link to the extension, could be included in
the wiki page. I don't recall if the was a "welcome message" when I
signed on but they are de regur for most lists. Have it in the e-mail
also. AND, last but not least, maybe a notice and link in the footer of
the messages also. I know, most people never look at those places
but...

In case the person is new and does reply to sender a "polite" response
might go a lot further.

Vy iz der not zo many horziz az der iz horziz azzez?

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Re: [opensuse] More 10.2 nightmares

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Magnus Boman wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 12:07 +0100, Anders Norrbring wrote:
>   
>> kanenas skrev:
>> 
>>> On Sunday 11 February 2007 17:33, Rajko M. wrote:
>>>  >Tom made some mistakes that he didn't know about, like including
>>>   
 Factory repository that is pre-alpha,
 
>>> I only glanced at a few posts on this thread, but, has anyone mentioned 
>>> that 
>>> the word "factory" does not carry any notions of extreme alpha status? Has 
>>> the suggestion beemn made to change the name of the directory, so the same 
>>> mistake is not repeated? The disclaimers are just that, they are everywhere 
>>> these days, so most of us tend to skip them, no? 
>>>   
>> No, we don't. At least not if we're not sure of what we're doing...
>> A popular abbreviation is 'RTFM'.
>> 
>
> You also get a big fat warning when you add Factory as an installation
> source stating that it is ALPHA software. But I guess that's only
> another dialog box that's there for users to ignore :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Magnus
>
>   
Actually, when I added it to my install list I DID NOT get any warning
message. Had to learn the hard way. Now I'm a tiny bit smarter. Life is
a learning experience. Every time I blow up SuSE I learn a little something.

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Re: [opensuse] More 10.2 nightmares

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kanenas wrote:
> On Sunday 11 February 2007 17:33, Rajko M. wrote:
>  >Tom made some mistakes that he didn't know about, like including
>   
>> Factory repository that is pre-alpha,
>> 
>
> I only glanced at a few posts on this thread, but, has anyone mentioned that 
> the word "factory" does not carry any notions of extreme alpha status? Has 
> the suggestion beemn made to change the name of the directory, so the same 
> mistake is not repeated? The disclaimers are just that, they are everywhere 
> these days, so most of us tend to skip them, no? 
I made another I D Ten T error yesterday and had to reload my system. I
was looking for the factory repo to get the 2.6.20 kernel. The
link/listing has been removed from the openSuSE pages where it was. It
took me almost two hours to get my poor old brain to figure out the
address and find the correct page. I doubt there will be as much need
for a warning if it isn't listed.

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Re: [opensuse] The BBC is asking if they should support Linux

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Carl William Spitzer IV wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 09:39 -0800, Robert Smits wrote:
>   
>> On Wednesday 21 February 2007 13:40, Carl William Spitzer IV wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Do they still broadcast Dr Who?
>>>   
>> Both the BBC and the CBC still have Dr Who. 
>>
>> Series 3 of the programme, starring David Tennant as the Doctor and Freema 
>> Agyeman as his companion Martha Jones, will follow in March 2007 on BBC One.
>> 
>
> Those don't get to California.
>   
The first two seasons of the Dr have been on SciFi channel. I suspect
that season three will be in the fall here for us.

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Re: [opensuse] DVD +Suse 10.2 +K3b

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Art Fore wrote:
> When I insert empty dual layer DVD into the drive, and the automounter
> comes up with the following error.
>
> Method "Mount" with signature "ssas" on interface
> "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" doesn't exist
>
> If I opens with K3b, everything seems to go OK until it gets to the
> point for actually writing the image, it asks to insert blank DVD.
>
> The thing is, I copied one DVD with no problem, then this. Tried 3 other
> empty new DVD's of the same type that did work with no luck.
>
> Any sugestions?/
>
> Art
>
>   
It looks to me like it is related to Bug 244485.

Hal is broken. Would someone please contact Dr. Chandra.

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Re: [opensuse] Paying for a Senior Moment

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Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
> The Saturday 2007-03-03 at 15:11 -0500, James Knott wrote:
>
> >> Sorry, but I have no idea what "a senior moment" means. Senior is Latin
> >> for older respectable person, ie, elder.
> >>
> > Old Timer's disease - lousy memory  ;-)
>
> Ah! I understand now.
>
> I did have a look at "dict", but I had no luck in findind the idiom. Must
> be relatively new, as dict's version of the webster is quite old... There
> is an entry on the wikipedia, though.
>
> My english may be good, but it can never be so good as a first
> language...
> So, I supose he installed 10.3 in a distracted moment, and later went
> back
> and installed 10.2? He didn't say so.
>
> Never mind.
>
As one gets older all sorts of strange things begin to happen. Along
with "senior moments" there is "Sometimers disease", which I seem have.
Sometimes I remember, and sometimes I don't. And then there are "brain
farts". Those are somewhat like "senior moments". Kind of like when you
push your glasses up on your head then spend an hour looking for them.
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Re: [opensuse] Partitioning and formatting a drive - SOLVED

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Anders Johansson wrote:
> On Saturday 03 March 2007 22:08, Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>   
>> What do you use to partition and format a new hard drive? I tried to use
>> Yast>Partitioner but it said I couldn't use that to do what I need done.
>> 
>
> Huh?
>
> That is *exactly* what you use it for. Are you sure you didn't misread the 
> message?
>
> There is a warning blurb when you start it up, saying you should only use it 
> when you know what you're doing. Is that what you mean?
>
>   
ppps!! Never mind. I had a "senior moment". Either that or a
brain fart.
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[opensuse] Partitioning and formatting a drive

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What do you use to partition and format a new hard drive? I tried to use
Yast>Partitioner but it said I couldn't use that to do what I need done.

It's a new bare SATA hard drive.

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Re: [opensuse] Fedora Merge - SUSE turn to follow

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Jan Tiggy wrote:
> Billie Erin Walsh schrieb:
>
>   
>> AND, Don't forget Hal.
>> 
>
> What do you want from HAL? It works perfectly on SLED same to udev. ;)
> IMO Novell policy sux big time.
>
> thx
> Jan

I want to be able to mount my external USB floppy and Zip Drive.

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Re: [opensuse] undeleting files [OT]

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Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
> Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>   
>> Then why are the server settings not set to reply to the group?
>> 
> Ever seen an away message, or someone's misconfigured mail server
> bounces when you have posted?  If replies went to the group, it would
> create a never ending loop.
>
>   
For some reason that problem doesn't seem to bother a few thousand other
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Re: [opensuse] Fedora Merge - SUSE turn to follow

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Janne Karhunen wrote:
> On Thursday 01 March 2007 20:36, Marcus Meissner wrote:
>
>   
 I think Fedora 7 will come close to 10,000 packages - SUSE needs more
 packages too to stay competitive.
 
>>> Quality before quantity. Are you missing something?
>>>   
>> Fedora Core + Extras has altogether 3820 Source RPMS at this time.
>> openSUSE 10.2 is built from approx 3300 Source RPMs.
>>
>> There is not that much difference. ;)
>>
>> And frankly, instead of 2000 more packages I would like MP3/Movie playing
>> to just work instead.
>> 
>
> That, and it would be quite nice if the package management worked
> as well :/. Current solutions are all too complex and error prone 
> for the common man [while I agree that usability is decent when
> these work, but they rarely do for long]. And then there's the 
> 3rd party driver annoyance we have yet to see properly addressed..
>
>
>   
AND, Don't forget Hal.

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Re: [opensuse] undeleting files [OT]

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Randall R Schulz wrote:
> It has for years been the practice on this list to reply _only_ to the 
> list and not send redundant copies to the person to whose post you're 
> replying.
>
>
> Randall Schulz
>   
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Re: [opensuse] look and feel

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Bruce Marshall wrote:
> Now you're asking SuSE to spend time on the look and feel of the installer 
> which people only see for an hour or so  ONCE EVERY SIX MONTHS  at most.
>   
Well, after you get things configured after a new install. At least in
my case it's almost a constant for the first couple weeks.
> Are you going to stare at the screen for an hour??  No, you're going to go 
> off 
> an do other things while the installer does its thing.
>
> Who cares???
>
> Oh, did I mention I think this would be a waste of valuable developer 
> time?   :-)
>   
Amen! There are a LOT more things that NEED to be done.

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Re: [opensuse] Consistency with power privileges

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M Harris wrote:
> On Monday 26 February 2007 01:11, John Andersen wrote:
>   
>> What security expert sits a child at the console and then in the same
>> breath preaches security as a reason to inconvenience the vast majority
>> of users?
>> 
>   I'll give you another real world scenario (more relevant) that I 
> experienced 
> at a college campus library a year and a half ago. 
>
>   Several of us were in the library one Thursday evening doing some late 
> research and finishing up on a couple of critical papers. I had requested 
> several journal articles via inter library loan and my laptop was in the 
> process of downloading the fifth of six large journal faxes. Two other 
> machines were in the process of the same sort of activity and one or two more 
> were idle. In strolls the campus clown... who thought it might be funny (as 
> he sailed through the library) to reach out and close the lids of all the 
> laptops he could reach as he progressed between the tables. Most of the 
> machines lost their connection and suspended... a couple of them 
> hibernated--- all of them except mine... which kept right on downloading the 
> last of the journal articles I desperately needed. Of course the other guys 
> were able to get their articles too... eventually... after their machines 
> woke up, reestablished the connection to campus... and then *restarted* their 
> downloads. It wasn't funny, and it was avoidable. The moral... my colleagues 
> *convenienced* themselves into an arbitrary highly inconvenient and 
> uncontrolled shutdown because they thought nobody would ever close the lid of 
> their highly personal computer except themselves... ooops.
>
>   And by the way... I can suspend my laptop when I want to in about, oh, 
> five 
> seconds by pressing an icon and entering a password... so what? The point is 
> not to preach inconvenience, the point is to encourage new folks to the  *nix 
> OS to work within the security benefits of the system... instead of 
> constantly trying to circumvent them... especially because working within the 
> security constaints of the system is s easy... sudo,  su -,  etc.
>   
Why in the world would anyone set their, often times very expensive,
laptop down on a table and leave it unattended?

Under NO circumstances would I EVER leave my poor little Gateway sitting
anywhere in a public place I, or my spouse, wasn't in the immediate
vicinity. It's not the newest or most wizbang little computer but it is
VERY important, and personal, to me. It would almost be like leaving
your wallet just sitting on a table somewhere. I'm sorry, but I see the
above scenario as an I D Ten T error. Everyone deserved exactly what
they got.

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Re: [opensuse] Konqueror can't open USB floppy.

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David Brodbeck wrote:
> My USB floppy won't open in Konqueror.  Konqueror gives me this error
> message:
> 'Method "Mount" with signature "ssas" on interface
> "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" doesn't exist.'
>
> Any suggestions?  This used to work, and I can access the drive fine
> with mtools.  My USB thumbdrive still works, too.
>   
Bug 244485

Also won't open Zip Drives.

No solution as of yet. No obvious activity on bug lately either. I think
Hal is broken and they don't know how to fix it..

maybe remove the memory cards. [ ala 2001 ]

Open the floppy drive Hal. Hal, Open the floppy drive.

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Re: [opensuse] Consistency with power privileges

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M Harris wrote:
> On Thursday 22 February 2007 17:00, Angus MacGyver wrote:
>   
>> Now taken a look at those settings, tweaked and rebooted but still a
>> normal user cannot hibernate the system...
>>
>> Please can someone point me in the right direction.
>> 
>   I would like to offer some philosophy, which when properly considered, 
> may 
> prove to be helpful ...
>
>   ... this problem (and others like it, I'll explain in a minute) come up 
> frequently because of our common windoze heritage--- a mindset that a 
> personal computer is a single user application launcher. It seems on the 
> surface that any user should be able to automatically mount or unmount a 
> device... have access to all hardware ports, and be able to *suspend* or 
> *hibernate* the system! In fact just the opposite is true. 
>   Only root should be able to suspend the system. Only root should be 
> able to 
> hibernate a system. Only root should be able to mount/umount devices, and 
> only root should have access to the system's hardware ports in fact, only 
> the kernel should have access to the system's hardware ports. 
>   Any true operating system will restrict system services (particularly 
> those 
> which bring the system *down* ) to the kernel and the root authority---for 
> any truly multiuser multitasking operating system. To say this another way, 
> no individual *general* user on the system should be able to stop the system 
> nor do anything within their virtual address space that would result in 
> stopping the system this is assuming that there are *other* users on the 
> system (maybe even just system processes) that should not be stopped just 
> because the user wants to suspend. Its not a personal computer... its a 
> system.
>   Unix and unix-like operating systems (including Linux) are true 
> operating 
> systems in every sense of the word (very much unlike windoze).  Even though 
> the machine may only have ONE user logged on *ever*, it is still a multi-user 
> system which restricts the shutdown of the system to root. Many folks (and 
> some distros) bypass this, and its a mistake. My belief is that folks need to 
> understand what a real OS is. Those of us from the old IBM VM days, or the 
> older UNIX days, realize that a computer is a system which should not 
> arbitrarily crash, and which should not be subject to downtime do to the 
> actions of any single user--- including shutdown, suspend, or hibernate.
>   All of my systems (including my laptop) restrict all admin activities 
> to 
> root, including shutdown among many others. If root access is required my 
> users su to root (if authorized) and perform the function with authority, 
> permission, security, safety and logging. What I find is that people moving 
> over to Linux from windoze will try to make Linux look and behave like 
> windoze and thereby missing the whole point of moving to Linux in the 
> first place. Some folks even take this to extremes (due to misunderstanding) 
> and run *all the time* logged in as root... the way some windoze users always 
> logon as administrator. The problem is that root on unix-like systems is 
> absolutely dangerous... unlike the semi bogus administrator logon of windoze. 
> If you force yourself to work within the restrictions of the unix system then 
> the restrictions of the system will protect you and even become your friend.
>
>   Just words to the wise.
>
>   
Hogwash!

If I need access to something on a floppy drive why should I need to be
"root" to get access?

If I need to shut down MY computer for some reason why do I need root
access?

If I had a company and one of my employees needed something off a floppy
I would hate to think they would have to wait hours for IT to get around
to getting them access. It might just mean the difference in a sale or not.

I can appreciate the need for "some" of the access restrictions in unix
like systems. Mostly they are used in a business situation. You don't
want every jack leg in the place screwing with the company system. I am
not in an office/company situation. I'm in a home computer situation.
I'm the only person that ever touches this computer. There should be
some "switch" somewhere that will allow for home use.


Some things do need root access. Most everyday things should not. Access
to information on other drives is not one that should be hindered.

I see it sort of like the government interference in our everyday lives.
If I'm driving in a reckless manner, that's their business, I'm
endangering others. If I want to hit myself in the head repeatedly with
a ball bat, that's my business. I'm not hurting anyone but myself. [ I
know bad analogy - it's late for me and I have to get up EARLY so I'm in
a hurry ]

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Re: [opensuse] The BBC is asking if they should support Linux

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Mike McMullin wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 10:09 -0600, Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>   
>> Mike McMullin wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 22:12 -0600, Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>>>   
>>>   
>>>> Mike McMullin wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Tom Baker was no Jon Pertwee either. Each "Dr" brings something
>>>> different to the series. Some for the better, and some for the worse. I
>>>> thought Tennant did a reasonable job with the character. At least he
>>>> didn't treat it like it was serious TV. He had about the same attitude
>>>> as Tom Baker. Nothing like Colin Baker *<[:op  .
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>   I'll see your Pertwee and raise you Peter Cushing, from the movie,
>>> IIRC.  :)
>>> Tennant has this gushing "Wow Humanity" thing going on that Baker
>>> didn't, and where is the trademark apparel (scarf? jellybabies?)?
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
>> I thought Cushing was "ok",
>> but.. Who was that guy that did
>> the [ I think it was Fox ] movie about the turn of the century. Didn't
>> care much for him either.
>> 
>
>   Which one, the "old" Doctor or the "new" doctor.  Oddly enough I
> thought he might have been tapped for the new serial, Eckleston was ok,but is 
> accent was tough to cut through at times.
>   

Back about 2000 I think Fox made a Dr. Who movie [ made for TV ]  about
the change in Millennium. I can't remember who played the Dr but I think
it was an American. Anyway, the movie was "opk"
but..

>   
>> Those were only trademarks of Tom Baker.Did you notice that as his stint
>> as the Dr. his scarves got longer? [ I think Jon Pertwee did use a white
>> scarf though, may be wrong. ] Colin Baker had a sprig of parsley as his
>> decoration. Never saw any of the fellow that came after him.
>> 
>
>   I had not noticed that about his scarf, but I do recall that one Dr.
> Who Comic book had the instructions for knitting one just like it.
>   

If I recall a documentary I saw somewhere the last scarf was something
like twelve feet long. Made for Tom by a fan. Said he hated the thing
cause he was forever tripping over it.

>   
>> I think all the Dr's had an all abiding love for humanity.
>> 
>
>   Certainly it's a reason for them to be around humans so much, but his has 
> gone over the top, IMO.
>   
Real aliens probably wouldn't work for scale.  *<[:oD

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[opensuse] Gateway Solo2550 & SuSE 10.1 - SOLVED

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Found a Gateway monitor on the list that worked.

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Re: [opensuse] The BBC is asking if they should support Linux

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Mike McMullin wrote:
> On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 22:12 -0600, Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>   
>> Mike McMullin wrote:
>> 
>> Tom Baker was no Jon Pertwee either. Each "Dr" brings something
>> different to the series. Some for the better, and some for the worse. I
>> thought Tennant did a reasonable job with the character. At least he
>> didn't treat it like it was serious TV. He had about the same attitude
>> as Tom Baker. Nothing like Colin Baker *<[:op  .
>> 
>
>   I'll see your Pertwee and raise you Peter Cushing, from the movie,
> IIRC.  :)
> Tennant has this gushing "Wow Humanity" thing going on that Baker
> didn't, and where is the trademark apparel (scarf? jellybabies?)?
>
>   
I thought Cushing was "ok",
but.. Who was that guy that did
the [ I think it was Fox ] movie about the turn of the century. Didn't
care much for him either.

Those were only trademarks of Tom Baker.Did you notice that as his stint
as the Dr. his scarves got longer? [ I think Jon Pertwee did use a white
scarf though, may be wrong. ] Colin Baker had a sprig of parsley as his
decoration. Never saw any of the fellow that came after him.

I think all the Dr's had an all abiding love for humanity.

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[opensuse] Gateway Solo2550 & SuSE 10.1

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I'm trying to sneak a little Linux into my better-halfs life.

After the install [ as above ] I can't get the viewing area of the
screen to go to full width. It leaves about an inch of black all the way
around the viewing area. As near as I can tell from the Gateway spec
sheet it set the video driver right. The screen doesn't have much
information, other than its a 13.3 TFT, I have it set to 14 in the
config file. I've dug through every configuration setting I can find but
nothing in SuSE will change it.

Windows XP on the other half of the drive does just fine so I'm not so
sure its a bios or hardware thing.

Any ideas

Gateway specs:

LCD display panel

Panel size



13.3-inch

Panel type



Active matrix thin filament transfer (TFT) LCD color display

Maximum panel resolution



13.3-inch - (XGA) 1024 x 768

Maximum colors displayed



18-bit; 262,000 colors

Video

Graphics controller



SMI Lynx EM4 Video Graphics Accelerator (Silicon Motion Inc.)

Video interface



Accelerated graphics port (AGP) 1X

Video memory



4 MB SGRAM

External video



Supports simultaneous LCD, external monitor. Supports VGA (640 x 480),
SVGA (800 x 600) and XGA (1024 x 768) panel.

Internal LCD resolutions and maximum color depth



1024 x 768, 800 x 600, and 640 x 480 with up to 16.7 million colors

Zoomed video



Zoomed video card may be used in lower PC card slot only


Display info from computer:
Vendor Silicon Motion Inc
Model SM 710 LynxEM
Driver siliconmotion (no3d support)

Monitor is set up as generic Vesa SVGA. Nothing in the Gateway list
looked like anything usable.

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Re: [opensuse] The BBC is asking if they should support Linux

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Mike McMullin wrote:
> On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 15:44 -0600, Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>   
>> Mark Lowes wrote:
>> 
>>> On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 04:11:26PM -0500, Mike McMullin wrote:
>>>   
>>>   
>>>> On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 06:48 -0600, Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Hey, give credit where credit is due here. They are still dreaming up
>>>>> sitcoms for American TV to copy.
>>>>> AND they DID bring back Dr. Who!
>>>>>   
>>>>>   
>>>>   And two spin offs, Torchwood and Rose Tyler IIRC.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> Neither of which is anything for them to be proud of.
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
>> I take it your not much of a Who fan.
>> 
>
>   Tennant is no Tom Baker and neither was the last dude.  
>
>   
Tom Baker was no Jon Pertwee either. Each "Dr" brings something
different to the series. Some for the better, and some for the worse. I
thought Tennant did a reasonable job with the character. At least he
didn't treat it like it was serious TV. He had about the same attitude
as Tom Baker. Nothing like Colin Baker *<[:op  .

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Re: [opensuse] The BBC is asking if they should support Linux

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Mark Lowes wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 04:11:26PM -0500, Mike McMullin wrote:
>   
>> On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 06:48 -0600, Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey, give credit where credit is due here. They are still dreaming up
>>> sitcoms for American TV to copy.
>>> AND they DID bring back Dr. Who!
>>>   
>>   And two spin offs, Torchwood and Rose Tyler IIRC.
>> 
>
> Neither of which is anything for them to be proud of.
>
>   
I take it your not much of a Who fan.

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