Re: [opensuse] Suse 9.2 need upgrade

2008-01-28 Thread M9.

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Carlos E. R. schreef:
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|

|
| Have you noticed that opensuse 11, and probably most distros, will only
| allow us to use up to 15 partitions? It is a side effect of libata using
| the scsi device name convention.
|
| In the past, even two weeks ago, having a disk divided into several
| partitions, has saved my butt, by limiting unrecoverable disk damage to
| a single partition. But the developers want us to put every thing into a
| few huge partitions. And huge could mean half a terabyte. That's a lot
| of data to have on a single partition.
|
| For testers like me having several bootable systems, this is a blow.
|
| -- Cheers,
|Carlos E. R.


Ofcourse.
But maybe it is meanth for simple users?
I myself *need* more partitions, to test also.
Now i want to see how the new 11.0 installs, but i have an updated factory.
I do not want to overwrite that, nor the working 10.2, that is around,
and can be used if all others fail, which sometimes happens...
/boot i have seperate, and that keeps all the nessesary files for all
the platforms...(until now, this saved me lots of trouble..)
/home can also be mounted to several platform versions, if one does not
have the space for seperate different /home partitions...(having a
recent back-up, just in case, might sometimes not be such a bad idea
afterall..:)

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Re: [opensuse] Problem getting printing to work in OpenOffice

2008-01-28 Thread M9.

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Basil Chupin schreef:
| Not too long ago a similar question was asked and an answer given. I
| have searched the Suse database/site and mailing list(s), including the
| OpenOffice site, but cannot find the answer - obviously I am not looking
| in the right places nor using the right search words.
|
| I am using Suse 10.2 (and 10.3 on a test bed) but cannot get OO
| (everything upgraded to the latest versions) to print out a document to
| an IBM/Lexmark 4039 12R Plus laser printer.
|
| If I use Kwrite, to create a document and then print it, the printing is
| successfully done in seconds.
|
| Can anyone, please, either tell me what the fix is to get OO to print
| out a document or point me to the location where I can get the answer?
|
| (I have a couple of documents which need to be printed out rather
| quickly (but not as a matter of life or death) so if someone can
| provide a quick answer I would be most grateful.)
|
| Ciao.
|
|
| Past experience, if not forgotten, is a guide for the future.
|
|

Maybe you solved the matter, maybe not.
I ran into same issue just now, and the error log showed me to modify
printer, if upgraded cups, which i did, and it worked immediately after
i did modify the printer:
| I [28/Jan/2008:14:39:28 +0100] [Job 4] Restarted by root.
| E [28/Jan/2008:14:39:28 +0100] [Job 4] No ticket cache found for
userid=1000
| E [28/Jan/2008:14:39:28 +0100] [Job 4] Can not get the ticket cache
for monkey9
| E [28/Jan/2008:14:39:29 +0100] [Job 4] Gutenprint: The version of
Gutenprint software installed (5.0.2) does not match the PPD file (5.0.1).
| E [28/Jan/2008:14:39:29 +0100] [Job 4] Gutenprint: If you have
upgraded your version of Gutenprint
| E [28/Jan/2008:14:39:29 +0100] [Job 4] Gutenprint: recently, you must
reinstall all printer queues.
| E [28/Jan/2008:14:39:29 +0100] [Job 4] Gutenprint: If the previous
installed version of Gutenprint
| E [28/Jan/2008:14:39:29 +0100] [Job 4] Gutenprint: was 4.3.19 or
higher, you can use the `cups-genppdupdate.5.0'
| E [28/Jan/2008:14:39:29 +0100] [Job 4] Gutenprint: program to do this;
if the previous installed version
| E [28/Jan/2008:14:39:29 +0100] [Job 4] Gutenprint: was older, you can
use the Modify Printer command via
| E [28/Jan/2008:14:39:29 +0100] [Job 4] Gutenprint: the CUPS web
interface: http://localhost:631/printers.
| E [28/Jan/2008:14:39:29 +0100] [Job 4] Gutenprint: The version of
Gutenprint software installed (5.0.2) does not match the PPD file (5.0.1).
| E [28/Jan/2008:14:39:29 +0100] PID 3564
(/usr/lib64/cups/filter/rastertogutenprint.5.0) stopped with status 1!
| I [28/Jan/2008:14:39:29 +0100] Hint: Try setting the LogLevel to
debug to find out more.
| E [28/Jan/2008:14:39:29 +0100] [Job 4] Job stopped due to filter errors.



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Re: [opensuse] Root antivir ?.

2008-01-27 Thread M9.

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Erik Jakobsen schreef:
| Joe Sloan wrote:
| So it actually runs, but you are curious about the error?

| Yes Joe it runs.
|

I would not worry about the error message, as long as the app runs...
with the 1.5 version, you got the message,*and* no connecting, or
working app...
(might even the message is still there when i run mercury, the messenger
that could not connect to the server, i would have to look, when i start
from shell, but after it worked, i called the app from Alt+F2..)

And why would you change to a lesser app, just because of an error
message anyway?

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Re: [opensuse] Root antivir ?.

2008-01-26 Thread M9.

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Erik Jakobsen schreef:

| So the subject persists.

Not nice... at all...

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Re: [opensuse] Root antivir ?.

2008-01-26 Thread M9.

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Erik Jakobsen schreef:

| So the subject persists.

Not nice... at all...

Are you sure you checked if the new 1.6 was set as default?
Did you use this page to verify your version?
http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp

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Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?

2008-01-26 Thread M9.

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Joe Sloan schreef:

| [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ uptime
|   5:32pm  up 1016 days  1:24,  1 user,  load average: 2.47, 2.56, 2.36

More than 3 years, is quite impressive...


|
| An very busy old compaq 2450 running DB2, apache and websphere on SLES 9
|

| Joe

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Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?

2008-01-26 Thread M9.

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Joe Sloan schreef:
| Ken Schneider wrote:
| M9. pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
| Joe Sloan schreef:
|
| | [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ uptime |   5:32pm  up 1016 days  1:24,  1 user,
| load average: 2.47, 2.56, 2.36
|
| More than 3 years, is quite impressive...
|
|
| It might be impressive, but it also shows that no kernel security
| updates have been performed in a log time which _could_ make the
| machine vulnerable to attacks.
|
|
| Right, thekernel was updated in 2005 - there might be some sort of
| theoretical local vulnerability, but not every kernel security update is
| even relevant to our application.
|
| In the corporate world, you find that IT managers don't rush out and
| update software all that often. When something works, the attitude is,
| do not touch the production system.
|
| Joe
|
|

Which is the only right attitude imo..to keep things going.
If something breaks, time is there to do the things that are nessesary.

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Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?

2008-01-26 Thread M9.

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James Knott schreef:
| Billie Walsh wrote:
| James Knott wrote:
|
| M9. wrote:
|
|
| Joe Sloan schreef:
|
| | [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ uptime
| |   5:32pm  up 1016 days  1:24,  1 user,  load average: 2.47, 2.56,
2.36
|
| More than 3 years, is quite impressive...
|
|
| Not quite.  Three years is 1095 days, ignoring leap years.
|
|
|
| 1095.75 if someone wants to be picky.
|
| But then, we'd have to consider calendar years, Julian years, solar
| years, sidereal years and of course UTC years.
|

OK, does not take anything away from the impressiveness, if you ask me,
which you do not have to, ofcourse ;-))

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Known, or not synced?

2008-01-25 Thread M9.

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Marcus Rueckert schreef:
| On 2008-01-25 17:00:21 +0100, M9. wrote:

| There was also a gcc41 and gcc++ dep-problem, but i choosed to keep the
| installed ones for now.
|
| gcc41 is pretty old.
| we use 4.3 nowadays
| for the mplayer problem:
| packman needs to recompile it for factory.
| same for libxine
|

The new ones *do-have* deps probs, that' is why i kept the old ones...

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Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?

2008-01-25 Thread M9.
 that I've found my
systems using to auto-patch seem prone to failure. Usually complaining
about something incompatible. I have one machine (admittedly running
9.3) which has been trying to upgrade Mozilla for the last two years. I
can't seem to stop it trying, the warning blob thingy always says
updates are ready. I don't really care, but it's not reassuring.
|
|   Biggest pain for me is that it seems like every time I decide I want
to use/install/build a new piece of software, I have trouble with
dependencies. I fetch a package, but then it won't install because
something is missing, or the wrong version. I try to find the required
stuff, but that won't install because something else is missing, or it's
incompatible with something I already have. It might well be that I'm
doing it all wrong, but I only have so much time to give to this stuff.
Mostly I want a machine to just work. Usually, I give up and accept that
I'm going to live without whatever new function it was that seemed exciting.
|
| All of which sounds like I'm really unimpressed with Linux. That's not
the case. I know what work goes into this stuff, and I use it as much as
possible anyway (the only things I do with Windows are run Photoshop,
for the reasons given, and one check-writing program that I run under
VMWare, because I always did, and GNUCash was too complicated to bother
finding out about, and too much like hard work to migrate to). My
problem, which is a huge personal disappointment, is that I realized
about 6 months ago that I can't ask my friends to move to Linux. They
just don't have what it takes still to cope. Me, sure, I can muddle
through, but then again, I don't like to make this effort and I tend to
accept restricted functionality as the price I pay to take my moral high
ground and reject gates as much as possible. I also prefer the relative
security that I get from avoiding the Internet's petri dish
|
| Generally, I would prefer to see less effort on improvement and more
on stabilization. Pin down the compatibility issues (remember the Unix
wars?--I do.) between versions of libblahdyblah or whatever, so I can
just fetch a package and use it. Meanwhile, Linux seems to me to be a
good choice for companies where one install effort can be rolled out to
hundreds of users, but less viable for intermediate home users who want
to do interesting and different things, but aren't able to help
themselves. The really basic users, who browse, send email, write the
odd document, and look at jpeg images from their cameras have no
problem. I have one such friend that is completely computer illiterate
and quite happy using OpenSUSE 10.1 with ICE window manager (old, weak
hardware, couldn't run Gnome or KDE adequately). All other attempts to
migrate my friends were met with legitimate objections that I couldn't
counter.
|
| With thanks to all who've made this what it is, and with continuing
faith that one day it'll be what it deserves to be, and have the
acceptance and mainstream support it deserves. Hope this ramble helps,
| $0.02
| Simon
|
|
|
|

Dear Simon,

Beautifull to see, how a man with your knowledge, and accordingly to
that knowledge, has too little time for himself, to 'fix stuff
properly'..merely ironic, life is indeed not without a sense of humor. ;-)

The things you lay your finger upon, *are* the things that are going on...

Sometimes it feels to me, somebody messed with time, and there are less
hours in a day then there were before, but somehow, i am not able to
prove it.. ;-), and i don't kow who to blame either...
Maybe we are all responsible, and victims at the same time...

There is a turn towards Linux noticeable: AMD, NVidia, Ati, HP, others
will follow...
You mention the proprietary, and the licensed stuff, truly a pain in the
ass, but with some, (magic word) *Extra-time*, all(most) everything in
your list is solvable...

Old and new hardware is very very useable, even the newest Dual and
Quad-core machines run, but the software ahs to be written, as with 64bit.
But that functions apart from some off the things you also mentioned.

Apart from Photoshop, there are Cad like: Solid works, and Inventor
which licenses are very expensive, but you have to use them on a M$
platform...

Well, i am very glad, there is not only M$, because i than would stop
using a computer... ;-)


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Re: [opensuse] Root antivir ?.

2008-01-25 Thread M9.
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Erik Jakobsen schreef:
 Erik Jakobsen wrote:




 libxcb: WARNING! Program tries to unlock a connection without having
 acquired
a lock first, which indicates a programming error.
There will be no further warnings about this issue.
 libxcb: WARNING! Program tries to lock an already locked connection,
which indicates a programming error.
There will be no further warnings about this issue.
 Thread[Thread-14,5,computer_192.168.1.9]: failed to start, killing: 
 /usr/lib/AntiVir/gui/bin/antivir_start guard_workstation
 
 How to solve this ?

As i thought, it tries to connect to a server...
Best thing to get rid of this, is update your java to 1.6, and then
update alternatives as root, as there is also the bug that the updating
is set to manual.
If you want to knowhow to do this, look at bug:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=348430

 

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Re: [opensuse] Root antivir ?.

2008-01-25 Thread M9.
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Sloan schreef:
 Erik Jakobsen wrote:
 Sloan wrote:



 erikja:/usr/lib/AntiVir # ./antivir-gui
 libxcb: WARNING! Program tries to unlock a connection without having
 acquired
a lock first, which indicates a programming error.
There will be no further warnings about this issue.
 libxcb: WARNING! Program tries to lock an already locked connection,
which indicates a programming error.
There will be no further warnings about this issue.



This is a java-1.5 error, but usualy has something to do with external
server-connections. Does the vs try to reach the update server?

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Re: [opensuse] java

2008-01-19 Thread M9.
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Carlos F. Lange schreef:

 Have a look at 
 http://en.opensuse.org/How_To_use_Java_with_Firefox_on_64-bit_openSuSE_10.3
 
 I still need to clean it up, but all the info is there to have a 
 parallel version of Firefox 32bit with Java coexist in your 64b system.
 

Well, yes i had this in 10.2, and that worked.
The only problem with the 64bit java version is the plugin.
it is 32 bit, that is why it does not works...
i thought Pavel wrote he had a solution for the plugin.. ;-)
Until now, the only 64bit plugin is the blackdown, but that is verion
1.4, and it is an RC version.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] beagle

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M9. schreef:
 
 

 It is such a drag, not to be able to use the mouse.. :-(


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Re: [opensuse-factory] beagle

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Dominique Leuenberger schreef:
 On 17-01-2008 at 13:18, Druid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Jan 17, 2008 9:14 AM, Joachim Reichelt
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 Hi,

 can anyone tell me any reson for installing beagle?
 What does this have to do with this list?

 
 could be the  moment to decide wether beage shall be included in the default 
 installation set or not? So perfectly a valid question for this list, when 
 targeting it at openSUSE 11.0
  I for myself always uninstall it after the setup... bu I learnt to organize 
 my files with folders and filenames ;)
 
 Dominique
 

I allways uninstalled beagle until now.
it works in the background, but answers my questions very fast..
The way it is now, is for me completely acceptable...
If these things change, i will notice, and ring a bell. ;-)

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[opensuse-factory] Version-info about installed pkgs missing in Yast2.

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Hi,

This is very anoying, if one has to choose fi an other arch pkg, as in
this case, removing an 64bit, install a 32bit pkg.
Will there be a patch for this, or do i have to file a bug?

tia..for an answer... ;-)

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Re: [opensuse-factory] beagle

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Christian Jäger schreef:
 The problem is that this whole Beagle-debate that we had in the early
 days quickly turned into a question of belief. Some swear Beagle is the
 root of all evi... ah, slowness, some don't see what the fuss is all
 about. 
 
 And we have/had the 'initial indexing' problem where people deinstall
 Beagle directly after installation which of course gives them a
 speed-up. But they (so is my opinion) would have experienced the same if
 they'd just waited it out.
 
 So, agreeing with Rajko M., unless a credible source provides benchmarks
 that show a _considerable_ performance-drawback caused by Beagle, I
 think there is no objective reason to dump it from the default
 installation.
 
 Greets, 
 Chris

Over here Beagled uses 0.7 % CPU, and 0.1% Memory.
You do not even notice it is there.

I agree with all those people about the start index with beagle, is
realy disastrous.
It is such a drag, not to be able touse the mouse.. :-(
But if all is indexed, it just has to keep up with what is added to it..

It might be not  bad idea, to give beagle only to work in the
background, and full, when no other activity is present, like 'away from
pc', no mouse movements for 'x' minutes, like screensaver..
But whenever the user moves, it must imediately stop the activities, and
go low profile.
I find it amazing to see, how fast, and the kind of info it comes with...
I think it is a usefull toy, and not only for them who have 'all their
files organised'.. like me.. ;-)

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Re: [opensuse] java

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Pavel Nemec schreef:

 Anyway I solve this always by downloading 64b java from sun and sett manualy 
 my environment. It is not so big problem.
 
 

Would you mind sharing the way you do this with us?
I am busy for days now to get java working with a 64Bit Firefox...
Blackdown works, but is somewhat outdated

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Re: [opensuse] Java plugin for Firefox?

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Joe Morris (NTM) schreef:
 On 01/16/2008 03:14 AM, M9. wrote:

  Try the other link, you can ftp them down,
 many mirrors, surely there is one beside you.
 On 11.0 it does not work, firefox hangs on the java testpage,
 the manual shows a wrong way to symlink the plugin,
 What manual?

INSTALL-j2re

 system does not completely shutdown, had to use button.
 I threw away the symlink and the install, and than it wnt back to normal.
 What are you talking about?

My experiences with the plugin

 The pluginwrapper, that is installed by default does not work here
 either.
 That is to use a 32 bit plugin with a 64 bit browser.  Blackdown has a
 64 bit plugin.

It might be outdated?



 You can try it (BD) yourself, but it *might* be a waste of time, but
 maybe for you it is not.
 It is hardly a waste of time to have a working 64 bit java plugin, if
 you prefer to use a 64 bit firefox.

Ofcourse, who on a 64bit machine does not want 64bits software on it?

 The only thing that works is the 32bits fifefox, because there is only i
 mean i586. javaplugin
 Wrong.

No i tried that, in version 10.1 and 10.2.

 j2re1.4.2/plugin/i386/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so (BlackDown pkg)

 You did not get the amd64 package

Do you agree to the above license terms? [yes or no]
y
Verifying archive integrity...OK
Uncompressing Blackdown Java 2 Standard Edition Runtime Environment
v1.4.2-rc1 for
Linux/amd64..
Creating ./j2re1.4.2/lib/rt.jar
Creating ./j2re1.4.2/lib/jsse.jar
Creating ./j2re1.4.2/lib/charsets.jar
Creating ./j2re1.4.2/lib/ext/localedata.jar
Creating ./j2re1.4.2/lib/plugin.jar
Creating ./j2re1.4.2/javaws/javaws.jar
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Re: [opensuse] Java plugin for Firefox?

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M9. schreef:
 
 
 Joe Morris (NTM) schreef:
 On 01/16/2008 03:14 AM, M9. wrote:
 
  Try the other link, you can ftp them down,
 many mirrors, surely there is one beside you.
 On 11.0 it does not work, firefox hangs on the java testpage,
 the manual shows a wrong way to symlink the plugin,
 What manual?
 
 INSTALL-j2re
 
 system does not completely shutdown, had to use button.
 I threw away the symlink and the install, and than it wnt back to normal.
 What are you talking about?
 
 My experiences with the plugin
 
 The pluginwrapper, that is installed by default does not work here
 either.
 That is to use a 32 bit plugin with a 64 bit browser.  Blackdown has a
 64 bit plugin.
 
 It might be outdated?
 

 You can try it (BD) yourself, but it *might* be a waste of time, but
 maybe for you it is not.
 It is hardly a waste of time to have a working 64 bit java plugin, if
 you prefer to use a 64 bit firefox.
 
 Ofcourse, who on a 64bit machine does not want 64bits software on it?
 
 The only thing that works is the 32bits fifefox, because there is only i
 mean i586. javaplugin
 Wrong.
 
 No i tried that, in version 10.1 and 10.2.
 
 j2re1.4.2/plugin/i386/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so (BlackDown pkg)

 You did not get the amd64 package
 
 Do you agree to the above license terms? [yes or no]
 y
 Verifying archive integrity...OK
 Uncompressing Blackdown Java 2 Standard Edition Runtime Environment
 v1.4.2-rc1 for
 Linux/amd64..
 Creating ./j2re1.4.2/lib/rt.jar
 Creating ./j2re1.4.2/lib/jsse.jar
 Creating ./j2re1.4.2/lib/charsets.jar
 Creating ./j2re1.4.2/lib/ext/localedata.jar
 Creating ./j2re1.4.2/lib/plugin.jar
 Creating ./j2re1.4.2/javaws/javaws.jar
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~
 
 

I must admit, that i have made a mistake here.
I tried again this morning, and now it does not hang on the
java-testpage, but it says:

   Verifying Java Version

Oops! You don't have the recommended Java installed.
Your Java version is 1.4.2-rc1. Please click the button below to get the
recommended Java for your computer.

NOTE: If you recently completed your Java software installation, you may
need to restart your browser (close all browser windows and re-open)
before verifying your installation.

My question: how to let the plugin point to the

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java version 1.6.0_03
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_03-b05)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.6.0_03-b05, mixed mode)
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Re: [opensuse] Java plugin for Firefox?

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M9. schreef:

 I must admit, that i have made a mistake here.
 I tried again this morning, and now it does not hang on the
 java-testpage, but it says:
 
  Verifying Java Version
 
 Oops! You don't have the recommended Java installed.
 Your Java version is 1.4.2-rc1. Please click the button below to get the
 recommended Java for your computer.
 
 NOTE: If you recently completed your Java software installation, you may
 need to restart your browser (close all browser windows and re-open)
 before verifying your installation.
 
 My question: how to let the plugin point to the
 
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 java version 1.6.0_03
 Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_03-b05)
 Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.6.0_03-b05, mixed mode)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~
 
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ set | egrep '(JAVA|JVM|JRE|JDK)'
JAVA_BINDIR=/usr/lib64/jvm/jre/bin
JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib64/jvm/jre
JAVA_ROOT=/usr/lib64/jvm/jre
JRE_HOME=/usr/lib64/jvm/jre

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Re: [opensuse] Java plugin for Firefox?

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M9. schreef:
 
 
 M9. schreef:
 

 Verifying Java Version
 
 Oops! You don't have the recommended Java installed.
 Your Java version is 1.4.2-rc1. Please click the button below to get the
 recommended Java for your computer.
 


Another thing:

To test the java you go to:
http://java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml

If the red X is showing, the applet is not loaded.
Then there are some possibilities:
1)Enable Java in the Browser
2)Enable Java from the control panel.

As the java in the browser was enabled, i went for 2)

However, the control panel did not show, i knew this allready, so i
edited the path.
Guess what?
it was pointing
to:/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0.u3.sr2-sun-1.6.0.u3/jre/bin/ControlPanel,

Only, there is no /bin in /jre

There is a bin here:
/usr/lib64/jvm/java-1.6.0.u3.sr2-sun-1.6.0.u3/jre/bin/

But no control panel.

What is happened to it?

So there are more things that need to be done before Java works in a
64bits firefox.

And again: in Konqueror it works, without plugin.

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Re: [opensuse] Java plugin for Firefox?

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Joe Morris (NTM) schreef:
 On 01/16/2008 07:14 PM, M9. wrote:
 Another thing:

 To test the java you go to:
 http://java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml

 If the red X is showing, the applet is not loaded.
 Correct, mine showed the red x.  Right clicking in the frame gave me a
 choice to go to the java console, where I saw this error
 java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: testvmDynamicJavaCom
 (Unsupported major.minor version 49.0)
 Which only tells me the applet does not support this older version I am
 using (but the ONLY working 64 bit java plugin available).

Yes i tried that also, and i got ofcourse the same error ;-)
But Firefox hung again, and i was not able to scroll..
Had to close it and startup again...
It is getting a little too old for this time, more or less



 So there are more things that need to be done before Java works in a
 64bits firefox.
 It does work for most things, but of course it is getting old.  Why
 Blackdown could do it almost 4 years ago, but Sun still cannot, I do not
 understand.  Seems not to be technical reasons, but political.

I can not see a reason here, as to less 64bit desktops?
There is a 64bit server versionJava HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM
(build 1.6.0_03-b05, mixed mode), which i also have installed, and
blackdown uses this hotspot also with the 1.4 version...

Why are these guys stopped maintaining that pkg?

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Re: [opensuse] psion users

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Pavel Nemec schreef:
 Dne Monday 14 January 2008 10:22:41 G T Smith napsal(a):
 Pavel Nemec wrote:
 Hi all,
 four couple of years psions are retired. We still have plptools in our
 distribution. (file-system, clipboard and converters). Recently even new
 (bugfix mainly) version was released. I would like to know if there is at
 least one user who use plptools.
 I am going to move plptools into build service from factory. But if there
 is no such user, I will drop it completely.

 Let me know. Deadline is 18.1.2008

 Farewell Psion
 Ex Psion 3c  Psion 7 user.
 Pavel
 I occasionally use it. It does have a use with some Symbian Phones
 (Nokia and SonyEricson in particular) so I would suggest it is retained
 as an option. Think I might take a look at it again, as the version as I
 
 Yes, I can move it to Build Service.
 
 had a few problems with it last time I looked at it. Unfortunately, the
 protocol used is depreciated in more modern Symbian devices.
 
 I know that former Ercison 8x0 and 9x0 was basicly psions in new coat. But I 
 last track couple of years ago. 
 
 I doubt that you would get much of a response here, but it might be
 worth contacting one of the Symbian/PSion forums.
 
 No I am just intereted in suse-psion users :D
 
 Thanks for response. 
 P
 
 

Just took it to use it with SuSE last week!
Had to order 3v cells, and frequently all was gone.
Offcourse back-ups, but in windows, which i rarely use.
Was looking what i still needed, than start again new.
Nice to see they are still used:-)

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 My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone.

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Re: [opensuse] Beagle under 10.3 is really eating up my CPU

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Randall R Schulz schreef:
 On Sunday 13 January 2008 11:07, Randall R Schulz wrote:
 

 So a program like the Beagle indexer has to be smart enough about the
 load it offers to get its work done as quickly as possible without
 interfering with interactive use.
 
 By the way, I'm not saying I think Beagle does (or doesn't) need to do 
 more or better along these lines. I don't have enough experience or 
 information to have such an opinion.
 
 
 ...
 
 
 Randall Schulz

As it got installed in the 11.0A0, i uninstalled it.
But it got installed again...
But there is changed something...
It is very modest now..
So modest i even sometimes forget it is there!
Maybe it read what was said about it in this list? :-)))
So there is still hope..(one can only hope it stays that way..;)

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Re: [opensuse] psion users

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Pavel Nemec schreef:
 Dne Tuesday 15 January 2008 09:46:31 M9. napsal(a):
 Pavel Nemec schreef:
 Dne Monday 14 January 2008 10:22:41 G T Smith napsal(a):
 Pavel Nemec wrote:
 Hi all,
 four couple of years psions are retired. We still have plptools in our
 distribution. (file-system, clipboard and converters). Recently even
 new (bugfix mainly) version was released. I would like to know if there
 is at least one user who use plptools.
 I am going to move plptools into build service from factory. But if
 there is no such user, I will drop it completely.

 Let me know. Deadline is 18.1.2008

 Farewell Psion
 Ex Psion 3c  Psion 7 user.
 Pavel
 I occasionally use it. It does have a use with some Symbian Phones
 (Nokia and SonyEricson in particular) so I would suggest it is retained
 as an option. Think I might take a look at it again, as the version as I
 Yes, I can move it to Build Service.

 had a few problems with it last time I looked at it. Unfortunately, the
 protocol used is depreciated in more modern Symbian devices.
 I know that former Ercison 8x0 and 9x0 was basicly psions in new coat.
 But I last track couple of years ago.

 I doubt that you would get much of a response here, but it might be
 worth contacting one of the Symbian/PSion forums.
 No I am just intereted in suse-psion users :D

 Thanks for response.
 P
 Just took it to use it with SuSE last week!
 Had to order 3v cells, and frequently all was gone.
 Offcourse back-ups, but in windows, which i rarely use.
 Was looking what i still needed, than start again new.
 Nice to see they are still used:-)
 
 Hm I was able to run all Psion win software under wine. I used to convert 
 sxw - doc (oo) , then doc - doc - psion version. Work quite nice :). BTW 
 abiword is able to save/load files in psion format (AFAIK).
 
 Pavel
 

I never tried that..
But it was not only that, but the line of work, i needed the psion for,
ended, so i did not use it for some years..
But as i said, i got busy with it last week...
But it will be you choice; if it stops, it stops ;-)


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Re: [opensuse] Java plugin for Firefox?

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Stan Goodman schreef:
 ** Reply to message from Joe Morris (NTM) [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 15 Jan
 2008 19:29:59 +0800
 
 
 On 01/15/2008 04:13 PM, Stan Goodman wrote:
 I've found BTW that somebody (probably many more) has opened a bug about 
 this
 at Sun. Sun has put a note on it to the effect that a 64-bit plugin is
 committed for Java v1.7. No mention about when this will happen.
   
 I've been waiting for years.  Don't hold your breath.
 I've also found the Blackdown Java v1.4.2, and will install it. 
 
 In fact,what I actually found was a _link_ to the Blackdown file. Now I have
 found others. What they all have in common is that they lead either to blank
 pages or to non-existent directories. The archived file seems to have vanished
 from the 'Net.
 
 Does someone know if it is present somewhere?
 
 Try the other link, you can ftp them down,
many mirrors, surely there is one beside you.
On 11.0 it does not work, firefox hangs on the java testpage,
the manual shows a wrong way to symlink the plugin,
system does not completely shutdown, had to use button.
I threw away the symlink and the install, and than it wnt back to normal.
The pluginwrapper, that is installed by default does not work here either.
The strange thing is that Konqueror can use the jre, without even having
a plugin, you can try that. http://www.konqueror.org/javahowto/
I heard this: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/IcedTea
Unfortunately there is nobody who ports it to suse..

You can try it (BD) yourself, but it *might* be a waste of time, but
maybe for you it is not.
The only thing that works is the 32bits fifefox, because there is only i
mean i586. javaplugin
j2re1.4.2/plugin/i386/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so (BlackDown pkg)

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Re: [opensuse] repos not working

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Frank Fiene schreef:
 On Dienstag 15 Januar 2008, Bob wrote:
 YaST has suddenly decided it cannot find any content on the following
 repos

 http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/repo/non-oss/
 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:10.3/standard/
 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Backports/openSUSE_10.
 3/

 amongst others.

 The error message says File /repodata/repomd.xml not found on media

 I'm sure nothing's been changed at my end, so what's happening?
 
 Server had an hardware problem, i think they restore a backup now!
 

Some raids where/are damaged/down..
it is expected earliest late night fix, if the new raids arrive in time,
that is...

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Re: Mozilla reply to list extension feature? [Was: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-offtopic] Right persons in power?]

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Dave Plater schreef:
 G T Smith wrote:
 Carlos E. R. wrote:

 The Saturday 2008-01-12 at 16:00 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
 My most sincere apologies...
 Mozilla address-completion was leading to putting up
 the wrong address (why are the opensuse lists the ONLY
 ones I've ever been on in which replies go to the person
 writing the post, rather than to the list???)
 I've come up with a fix for it about an hour ago, so
 it shouldn't happen any more.
 Thanks!  :-)
 There is an extension for mozilla / thunderbird to add the required
 reply to list feature. It has been mentioned here sometime, but I
 don't remember exactly which one it is. Should be included in the
 distro, but I don't think it is.

 Obtainable from

 http://alumnit.ca/wiki/?ReplyToListThunderbirdExtension#toc2

 details

 http://alumnit.ca/wiki/?ReplyToListThunderbirdExtension



 Just installed and it works perfect.
 Thanks
 Dave

Indeed! Many thnx for pointing out this this feature!
(finaly no more forgetting to change user to list!)

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Re: Mozilla reply to list extension feature? [Was: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-offtopic] Right persons in power?]

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M9. schreef:
 
 
 
 
 Indeed! Many thnx for pointing out this this feature!
 (finaly no more forgetting to change user to list!)
 

Only my move to next unread message fails now :-(

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Re: [opensuse] Why beagle?

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Aaron Kulkis schreef:
 
 At what point is a user with 10-20 years of experience
 using computers expected to start behaving like something
 other than a complete novice who has never used an
 electronic device in his entire life.
 
 
 
 

Do you mean Noob, or Novice?

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Re: Mozilla reply to list extension feature? [Was: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-offtopic] Right persons in power?]

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M9. schreef:
 
 
 M9. schreef:
 
 
 
 Indeed! Many thnx for pointing out this this feature!
 (finaly no more forgetting to change user to list!)
 
 
 Only my move to next unread message fails now :-(
 

Works again, not caused by the reply to list extension/add-on... :-)

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Re: [opensuse] Banning verbal violence

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Stevens schreef:
 On Saturday 12 January 2008 00:11, Philippe Landau wrote:
 I made a filter marking messages by Aaron Kulkis as read some time ago,
 but can he please be placed under moderation for making appeals to
 violence and torture ?
 
 Why? Sometimes that is the best method to get someone's attention and 
 cooperation. It worked for Al Capone in Chicago. It might even work on 
 programmers. From what I have seen of some code, it is worth a try.

That is what i sometimes think also...

 
 I understand the stresses placed on someone paid to wage war, kill and
 torture people in Iraq and other places, but not every participant
 glorifies the violence and that level of hate does not need to infect
 open source software mailinglists.

 
 Where did that crap come from? Is Aaron a merc? I bet that if he was,
 he wouldn't be on this list 'cause he would be making so much money
 he could be having real fun instead of being reduced to playing with 
 computers.

Some of us also get drafted?

 
 I would expect cultural differences on a world-wide forum such as this
 one. I would also think that the other members would be able to grasp
 those differences, respect them for what they are and ignore any that
 offend. But maybe I expect too much.
 
 Fred

Not if it was up to me, this sounds completely sane and reasonable to me

  
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Re: [opensuse] Banning verbal violence

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Dog Walker schreef:
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 Stevens schreef:
 On Saturday 12 January 2008 00:11, Philippe Landau wrote:
 I made a filter marking messages by Aaron Kulkis as read some time ago,
 but can he please be placed under moderation for making appeals to
 violence and torture ?

 [...]

 I think Kulkis, Druid, et al. are ++diaperfull cyberbrats who are
 banging their keyboards against their highchairs for attention. Having
 the list killfile them would be welcome.

Are you both realy as pityfull as you seem?
Or are you just sick-joking?


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Re: [opensuse-factory] How to let FF find an installed Java-plugin?

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M9. schreef:
 
 
 Dominique Leuenberger schreef:
 M9,
 
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 Hi,

 I have installed the 1.6.0.java plugin, how make it useable?

 Something about installing 32bit version.(which i think is not realy an 
 option.)
 
 Dominique
 
 
 What about this pkg?
 jre-6u3-linux-amd64.rpm

/usr/lib64/jvm/java-1.6.0.u3.sr2-sun-1.6.0.u3/jre/lib/amd64

Inside this dir are all .so files, there must be a possibility to point
FF to here?
Or is this not how it works?

 

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Re: [opensuse-factory] How to let FF find an installed Java-plugin?

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Dominique Leuenberger schreef:
 M9,
 
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 Hi,

 I have installed the 1.6.0.java plugin, how make it useable?

 
 Do you have a 32bit firefox installed? (I think you don't... I remember from 
 other threads that you use nspluginwrapper for flash).
 if you have the 64bit FF, I think there is still no solution for Java yet... 
 The only way would be to change to the 32bit version of FF.
 
 but then you have most likely other plugins not working (just in my mind 
 comes vlc-mozillaplugin, which would need to be 32bit too, then you downgrade 
 vlc to 32 bit...)
 
 I always suggest for people that really need java INSIDE the browser to go 
 for a complete 32bit installation... less hassle for them.
 
 Dominique
 

What about this pkg?
jre-6u3-linux-amd64.rpm

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[opensuse-factory] How to let FF find an installed Java-plugin?

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Hi,

I have installed the 1.6.0.java plugin, how make it useable?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ set | egrep '(JAVA|JVM|JRE|JDK)'
JAVA_BINDIR=/usr/lib64/jvm/jre/bin
JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib64/jvm/jre
JAVA_ROOT=/usr/lib64/jvm/jre
JRE_HOME=/usr/lib64/jvm/jre
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rpm -qa | grep java
java-1_5_0-sun-1.5.0_update13-16
java-1_6_0-sun-1.6.0.u3-17
java-1_4_2-cacao-0.97-86
java-1_6_0-sun-plugin-1.6.0.u3-17
java-1_5_0-gcj-compat-1.5.0.0-15
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ java -version
java version 1.6.0_03
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_03-b05)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.6.0_03-b05, mixed mode)
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Re: [opensuse-factory] How to let FF find an installed Java-plugin?

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Martin Schlander schreef:
 Den Friday 11 January 2008 16:55:28 skrev peter nikolic:
 This theme has been discussed again and again.. and again. Complain to
 Sun Microsystems! .. or accept that 64-bit is only for servers.. as
 Adobe, MS and Sun seem to have agreed upon..
 
 E  have you tried buying an 32 bit CPU recently   ?   think you
 may be in for a shock
 
 Most x86_64 CPUs support 32-bit very well you know. Don't all these new shiny 
 64-bit boxes come with 32-bit MS Vista? That should be an indication of how 
 MS and PC-vendors feel about 64-bit on the desktop.
 
 I run 64-bit openSUSE myself on my primary box and have for some time. So I'm 
 not agitating against doing that. I'm just slightly annoyed that people act 
 all surprised and complain when they run into some problems with proprietary 
 software I guess. Don't understand how anyone remotely involved can still be  
 surprised that these issues exist.
 
 Maybe I was a bit harsh though, I'll try to keep my bitterness off the list.

I do not have the slightest problem with it.
Where is Firefox situated?
Or better; what is the command to ask bash where it lives?


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[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rpm -qa | grep MozillaFirefox
MozillaFirefox-2.0.0.11-1.7
MozillaFirefox-translations-2.0.0.11-1.7
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ set | egrep MozillaFirefox
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ set | egrep '(MozillaFirefox)'
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ echo MozillaFirefox
MozillaFirefox
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bash: where: command not found
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ whereis MozillaFirefox
MozillaFirefox:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~
you see not obvious...

Indeed, there are some things written about it in the past, and as i
recall we all agreed there should be fit a 64bit version of java in a
64bit firefox, on a 64bit platform..


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On Tuesday 27 November 2007 02:33:48 am Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
 Timothy Cahill wrote:
  On November 26, 2007, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Hmm, that's not surprising. Every Firefox release works that way.
  What you got from ftp.mozilla.org is a 32bit build of Firefox and that
  together with the 32bit Java plugin always worked.
 
  Perhaps not suprising to some. However, I've been looking for a
  documented method to get firefox working with Java on my 64-bit PC 
  for a week now, and after figuring it out, I assumed someone might
appreciate
  seeing the steps I used to get it working. If this is documented
  somewhere clearly, that would be nice.

 It's pretty simple:
 Install MozillaFirefox, java-1_5_0-sun-plugin and java-1_5_0-sun in
 their 32bit versions from openSUSE and all is working automatically.

 Wolfgang

Hello,

Just about two weeks late on this.. Hope somebody will see it.

I am also trying to get Java working on my 64 bit Firefox on 10.3
(MozillaFirefox-2.0.0.11-1.5) I also have java-1.5.0 and java-1.6.0
installed. Don't know if they are 32 bit or not. They have many many files
scattered everywhere. eg:
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java: /usr/bin/java /etc/java /usr/lib64/java /usr/bin/X11/java
/usr/share/java /usr/share/man/man1/java.1.gz
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But there is no /java directory in either /usr or /usr/local

Now, I attempt to install the plugin but I am offered different
varieties of
1.5.0 and 1.6.0 in i586 or x86_64. Don't know which I need.

Not knowing what to do I went to the java site and downloaded the
jre-6u3-linux-amd64.rpm  but did not install it because the install
instructions say it should be installed in /usr/java or /usr/local/java,
neither of which I have. And, I don't want to scatter more unknown java
files
throughout my system..

Should I uninstall the two javas that I have and start over fresh?  Hope
somebody will straighten out my confusion here.

Bob S
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Re: Fwd: Re: [opensuse] Flac to mp3

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michael norman schreef:
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 Subject: Re: [opensuse] Flac to mp3
 Date: Friday 11 January 2008
 From: Carl Hartung [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: opensuse@opensuse.org
 
 On Thu January 10 2008 10:49:27 pm Jason Craig wrote:
 clarge wrote:
 Is there a program to do the above? And if so what is it?
 $ ffmpeg -i foo.flac -acodec mp3 -ar 192k foo.mp3

 should do this, but I tried and failed to find out how to maintain the
 tags from the FLAC and use them as the MP3's ID3 tags.

 --Jason
 
 This solution appears to address converting the tags, too.
 
 Flac to Mp3 Simplified for Linux.
 http://www.sklav.com/?q=node/4
 
 *Disclaimer: This is a Google search result that I've reviewed and it looks 
 good, but I won't get around to testing it until later on = caveat emptor!
 
 good luck  regards,
 
 Carl
 
 p.s. feedback would be great if it works for you... even with any 'fixes'. 
 
 If you use KDE try Audiokonverter
 
 http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=12608
 
 

I would also recommend Audioconverter.
It works if right-clicked on an audiofile in konqueror: Actions 
Convert to:   MP3, OGG, M4A i-pod (AAC), Flac and Wav
Very nice and easy to use feature...

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Re: [opensuse] YAST2 not displaying package descriptions

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Philipp Thomas schreef:
 On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:53:14 +, Timothy Cahill wrote:
 
 I'm now using SMART as my software manager, and it is working perfectly. 
 From 
 these directions 
 
 Just keep in mind that smart seems ignorant of architecture as it will
 happily upgrade x86_64 packages with i586 ones and vice versa, i.e. not
 destinguish between 32 and 64 bit packages.
 
 Philipp

Exactly that happened to me  a few times in the past, it totaly wrecked
my install, that's why i've gotten carefull with it.
But i must say, i don not know if this is still happening now.
These guys work hard to improve the app, so they deserve to get tested.
It is usefull, if one cannot uninstall a particular pkg, because of
endless lists of deps, smart just does the job...

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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE_10.3 vs openSUSE_Factory

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Philipp Thomas schreef:
 On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 05:46:50 -0300, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
 
 Factory is a highly experimental place, you should only go there if you 
 want to be a tester, report bugs and help us ;)
 
 And generally enjoy living on the bleeding edge -)
 
 Philipp

Yep.. :-)

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Re: [opensuse] Installing wink to capture streaming video

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peter schreef:
 Philipp Thomas wrote:
 
 
 | In the future I'd verify such statements before stating them publicly
 | it'd be less embarassing.
 Looks like you do have slightly bigger problems than me my friend.
 

Ehum hmm..

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Re: [opensuse] YAST2 not displaying package descriptions

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Philipp Thomas schreef:
 * M9. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20080111 10:57]:
 
 These guys work hard to improve the app, so they deserve to get tested.
 
 Yepp. I didn't mean to discourage people, just make them wary that there are
 issues they should be aware of.
 
 Philipp
 

So was i, you were not blamed.. ;-)

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[opensuse-factory] What is npvieuwer.bin?

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Hi,

This '?' eats some resources (not much), but can not be found.
Not by Beagle, and not by kfind.
Anybody a clue?

29799 monkey9   20   0 48832  13m 6184 R  2.0  0.9   0:19.14 npviewer.bin


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Re: [opensuse-factory] What is npvieuwer.bin?

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Dominique Leuenberger schreef:
 
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 This '?' eats some resources (not much), but can not be found.
 Not by Beagle, and not by kfind.
 Anybody a clue?

 
 Hi,
 
 npviewer.bin is the binary of nspluginwrapper. Most likely you're on a 64bit 
 machine with Firefox, 

exactly!

 then the flash plugin will run with the nspluginwrapper.

Ok, thnx that's the info i need.. :-)

 
 Dominique
 

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Re: [opensuse-factory] What is npvieuwer.bin?

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Cristian Rodríguez schreef:
 M9. escribió:
 Hi,

 This '?' eats some resources (not much), but can not be found.
 Not by Beagle, and not by kfind.
 
 Does it segfaults for you ? I know of it existance due to the pure fact
 that crashes repeatedly and the event is logged... ;P

No, that is not the case here, i just noticed it in my monitor,
(npvieuwer?, vieuws what?) and wanted to know what it was.
When i could not find it, i thought: spyware?, and asked here, that's
all.;-)

Now i know that 'N', stands for 'netscape', and 'p', for plugin, it is
obvious..

But what if NP stood for No Problem vieuwer?
Than it could mean anything, i paranoidly thought.. :-)


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Re: [opensuse-factory] security update policy

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Wolfgang Rosenauer schreef:
 Hi,
 
 I'm wondering if there is any internal policy at Novell about security
 updates for Factory?
 I just found an example what shouldn't happen:
 
 MozillaThunderbird is on version 2.0.0.9 on 10.3-updates while it's
 still on 2.0.0.6 in Factory.
 Since in 10.3 it was a security update I wonder why it can be that it's
 still old in Factory.
 I would expect a policy that Factory should get necessary updates at
 around the same time.
 
 Wolfgang

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; nl; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128
SUSE/2.0.0.11-1.7 Firefox/2.0.0.11

is the current factory, if mozilla repo is used.. ;-)
(had to add it to solve problems with factory Thunderbird, which is also
too old: invalid message-filters..)


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Re: [opensuse-factory] status report distribution week 2

2008-01-09 Thread M9.
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Wolfgang Rosenauer schreef:
 Stephan Kulow wrote:
 Am Mittwoch 09 Januar 2008 schrieb Wolfgang Rosenauer:
 Stephan Kulow wrote:
 - Factory dependencies were broken over christmas, but should be fine
 again
 At least not in the buildservice. It still shows expansion errors
 because of libtasn1.so3 :-(

 The sync is still done manually, so Adrian just need to read your mail :)
 
 Just tested to update factory:
 
 Es sind keine installierbaren Anbieter von libtasn1 = 1.2 verfügbar
 für libtasn1-3-1.2-3.i586[Factory]
 
 rpm -qR libtasn1-3
 libtasn1 = 1.2
 
 The package libtasn1 doesn't exist though.
 
 Wolfgang

libtasn1 is a new requirement and has not been synced to the external
factory tree yet.  You can get libtasn1* from GNOME:UNSTABLE as a work
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[opensuse-factory] Verification of summary failed for pkgs.DU.gz

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Hi,

22:30, 09/01/2008.
zypper dup gave this output, after refreshing the repos:

Verificatie van de samenvatting is mislukt voor packages.DU.gz.
d86b69da0379fc3a85dcfa6a0226c561a5becb84 werd verwacht,
9a5480213cde51f11b7c8d52224e74fa409434ab werd gevonden. Doorgaan? [ja/nee]:

Verification of summary failed for pkgs.DU.gz
d86b69da0379fc3a85dcfa6a0226c561a5becb84 was expected,
9a5480213cde51f11b7c8d52224e74fa409434ab was found. Continue?
[yes/no]:

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Re: [opensuse-factory] New OO version in factory might be corrupt.

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M9. schreef:
 Hi,
 
 I tried to download it about 5 times, even seperate from a factory
 update, but did not succeed. the last 4 times it stopped around 40%.
 

Still corrupt:

Curl error for
'ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/x86_64/OpenOffice_org-2.3.1.1-8.x86_64.rpm':
Error code: Unrecognized error
Error message: transfer closed with 67312745 bytes remaining to read

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Verification of summary failed for pkgs.DU.gz

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M9. schreef:
 Sorry, forgot to tell it is about openSUSE-debuginfo-FTP 11.0
 
 M9. schreef:
 Hi,
 
 22:30, 09/01/2008.
 zypper dup gave this output, after refreshing the repos:
 
 Verificatie van de samenvatting is mislukt voor packages.DU.gz.
 d86b69da0379fc3a85dcfa6a0226c561a5becb84 werd verwacht,
 9a5480213cde51f11b7c8d52224e74fa409434ab werd gevonden. Doorgaan? [ja/nee]:
 
 Verification of summary failed for pkgs.DU.gz
 d86b69da0379fc3a85dcfa6a0226c561a5becb84 was expected,
 9a5480213cde51f11b7c8d52224e74fa409434ab was found. Continue?
 [yes/no]:
 
 

Many more unexpected pkgs summaries marked the repo not valid, and
switched it off. (nice feature btw.)

Verificatie van de samenvatting is mislukt voor packages.en.gz.
b4b014009ca07c5e26fbe5d8d651b50e6a34a942 werd verwacht,
7045629129aaedb32206bd2cef9354facd09ba43 werd gevonden. Doorgaan?
[ja/nee]: n
Installatiebron openSUSE-debuginfo-FTP 11.0 is ongeldig.
Wrong checksum for packages.en.gz


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[opensuse-factory] Re: Verification of summary failed for pkgs.DU.gz

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Sorry, forgot to tell it is about openSUSE-debuginfo-FTP 11.0

M9. schreef:
 Hi,
 
 22:30, 09/01/2008.
 zypper dup gave this output, after refreshing the repos:
 
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 d86b69da0379fc3a85dcfa6a0226c561a5becb84 werd verwacht,
 9a5480213cde51f11b7c8d52224e74fa409434ab werd gevonden. Doorgaan? [ja/nee]:
 
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 d86b69da0379fc3a85dcfa6a0226c561a5becb84 was expected,
 9a5480213cde51f11b7c8d52224e74fa409434ab was found. Continue?
 [yes/no]:
 

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Verification of summary failed for pkgs.DU.gz

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Marcus Rueckert schreef:

 gwdg again? or does it happen on other mirrors too?
 
 darix
 

Yes, if these things happen, the mirrors i try all suffer from this..
(this means, if pkgs on one mirror stop in the middle of a download,
this happens on all of them, so i noticed, thats why i stopped
switching: no use..)
This particular thing, i did not check yet, will do and report... ;-)

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Verification of summary failed for pkgs.DU.gz

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M9. schreef:
 
 
 Marcus Rueckert schreef:
 
 gwdg again? or does it happen on other mirrors too?
 
 darix
 
 
 Yes, if these things happen, the mirrors i try all suffer from this..
 (this means, if pkgs on one mirror stop in the middle of a download,
 this happens on all of them, so i noticed, thats why i stopped
 switching: no use..)
 This particular thing, i did not check yet, will do and report... ;-)
 

Everything seems to be ok again everywhere...
Might have been sync?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] New OO version in factory might be corrupt.

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M9. schreef:
 
 
 M9. schreef:
 Hi,
 
 I tried to download it about 5 times, even seperate from a factory
 update, but did not succeed. the last 4 times it stopped around 40%.
 
 
 Still corrupt:
 
 Curl error for
 'ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/x86_64/OpenOffice_org-2.3.1.1-8.x86_64.rpm':
 Error code: Unrecognized error
 Error message: transfer closed with 67312745 bytes remaining to read
 

08:50 10/01/2008
Was able to install this morning.

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[opensuse-factory] New OO version in factory might be corrupt.

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Hi,

I tried to download it about 5 times, even seperate from a factory
update, but did not succeed. the last 4 times it stopped around 40%.

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Re: [opensuse] odd /usr/bin thing

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Aaron Kulkis schreef:
 Wolfgang Woehl wrote:
 Montag, 7. Januar 2008 Sloan:

 Would that more official answers were so pithy.

 Lost dude:I'm lost. Where am I?
 Cowboy dude:  .
 Lost dude:Where should I go now?
 Cowboy dude:  ..

 Right, that should help.
 
 You Europeans just do NOT understand cowboys.
 
 Lost dude: I'm lost.  Where am I?
 Cowboy dude: You're in the barber shop in [town X]
 Lost dude:  Where should I go now?
 Cowboy dude:  I suppose that depends on what you want to do.
 
 
 Your problem is that you're looking for
 someone to replace your mama.
 
 You're beginning to remind me of someone in this story:
 
 A man in a hot air balloon realized he was lost.
 He reduced altitude and spotted a woman below.
 He descended a bit more and shouted, Excuse me,
 can you help me? I promised a friend I would meet
 him an hour ago, but I don't know where I am.
 
 The woman below replied, You're in a hot air
 balloon hovering approximately 30 feet above the
 ground. You're between 40 and 41 degrees north
 latitude and between 59 and 60 degrees west
 longitude.
 
 You must be in Information Technology, said
 the balloonist.
 
 I am, replied the woman, How did you know?
 
 Well, answered the balloonist, everything you
 told me is, technically correct, but I've no idea
 what to make of your information, and the fact
 is I'm still lost. Frankly, you've not been much
 help at all. If anything, you've delayed my trip.
 
 The woman below responded, You must be a lawyer
 or a politician.
 
 I am both, replied the balloonist, but how did
 you know?
 
 Well, said the woman, You don't know where you
 are or where you're going. You have risen to where
 you are, due to a large quantity of hot air. You
 made a promise, which you've no idea how to keep,
 and you expect people beneath you to solve your
 problems. The fact is you are in exactly the same
 position you were in before we met, but now,
 somehow, it's my fault.
 
 

I lov'it, lov'it! Yes!

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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts

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Fred A. Miller schreef:
 M9. wrote:

 [snip]



 'Should be..I know I posted one this afternoon.

 Fred


Yes i noticed, allready answered, but might accidentily cut off the
discussion right away
If so, forgive me my rudeness, maybe i should have ended with: wouldn't
you think so?, or: Don't you agree?
Never mind... :))

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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts

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Doug McGarrett schreef:
 On Monday 07 January 2008 05:56, Mike McMullin wrote:
 On Mon, 2008-01-07 at 09:52 +0100, jdd wrote:
 Besides, 
 keep the OT chatter to a minimum.

 couldn't [OT] subject be filtered out to OT list??

 jdd
   They should actually get put there as the intent of the OT list was a
 place to put OT things.
 
 I would love to see a show of hands (here) as to how many read the OT list.
 I certainly don't, and I would bet that 95% of the rest of you don't either.

(I mostly do not belong to the 99%, i am used to that for a long time...)

Well, for me, i was not aware of the existense of such a list, but if i
read the statements made here [OT], i would most certainly do read them,
because some of us realy have a way with words, and do even know what
they are talking about!
Most interesting, and sometimes realy funny stories and answers are
given which make me roflmao... and if i like something [OT] beside sex,
[/OT]its laughing :)))

 
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Re: [opensuse] kde and the kate editor

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Wendell Nichols schreef:
 Kate drives me nuts.  Its a good editor but every time you right click
 to edit a file in konqueror using kate it starts a new window.  If I use
 a command window and specify --use it will reuse an existing window if
 one is started for the session I specify.  However because kdeinit
 starts it I cannot pass a parm through konqueror. 
 So I get 30 kate windows on my desktop when all I want is one.  Ideally
 I'd like kate to open the file I've chosen in the instance of kate which
 is already open ON THAT DESKTOP.
 
 Has anyone figured this out?
 Sorry if this is an inappropriate forum... well not all that sorry
 wcn

How about opening the files from within kate?

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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts

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Neil schreef:
 Why then can't I find the OT mailing list with
 http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=012850459432662882474%3Avwmwkphffy4hl=en
 ?
 I subscribed to the OT mailing list a minute ago (found it in the
 mail) but I didn't know of it's existence and it can't be found
 easily.

 On Jan 7, 2008 11:56 AM, Mike McMullin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 2008-01-07 at 09:52 +0100, jdd wrote:
 Besides, the
 subject says OT, so a reasonably decent filter should flush
 any OT message for those who detest OT posts.
   After they get dl'ed from the host, and some people getting the list
 are on dial up where time is money, so it's also being considerate to
 keep the OT chatter to a minimum.

 couldn't [OT] subject be filtered out to OT list??

 jdd
   They should actually get put there as the intent of the OT list was a
 place to put OT things.

Exactly, noone knows, (knew) about that list existing, before Patrick
mentioned the location.
I subscribed, but nothing has posted there i guess, cause no mail came
in since yesterday.

In this list, there should be about  hundred minimum in a day...

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Factory-Upgrade impossible due to gnomekeyring.

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Cristian Rodríguez schreef:
 M9. escribió:
 
 But now new deps are troublesome: nfs-client, needs libevent-1.3b.so.1()
 
 Probably not all pakcages have synced out yet, factory provides
 libevent-1.3e atm.
 
 
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[opensuse-factory] How to rebuild database when: SQL logic error or missing database ?

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Hi,

After a system hung, i had to reboot, cold, with button, because no
reaction whatsoever.
The hung occurred during a repo refresh.

Now the 'openSUSE-debuginfo-FTP 11.0' cannot be rebuild or refreshed.

I think remove the repo, and install it again, should do the trick?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] How to rebuild database when: SQL logic error or missing database ?

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M9. schreef:
 Hi,
 
 After a system hung, i had to reboot, cold, with button, because no
 reaction whatsoever.
 The hung occurred during a repo refresh.
 
 Now the 'openSUSE-debuginfo-FTP 11.0' cannot be rebuild or refreshed.
 
 I think remove the repo, and install it again, should do the trick?
 

No it does not work this way:

Can not save the changes in the configuration of the installation source.
Details: Record not found in the cache history:
- -SQL logic error or missing database

What was possible though was shut it off, and switch on a brother (other
mirror), which i did.


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Re: [opensuse-factory] How to rebuild database when: SQL logic error or missing database ?

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Marcus Meissner schreef:



 Perhaps the zypp database got corrupted.

   rm /var/cache/zypp/zypp.db
 and the next zypper call will rebuild it.

 Ciao, Marcus


Right, it does, thnx for this tip.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] How to rebuild database when: SQL logic error or missing database ?

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Rajko M. schreef:

 
 The easiest way to rebuild zypper database is to: 
 - delete /var/cache/zypp/zypp.db and 
 - run 'zypper refresh' to create new one
 

This is correct, thnx.

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[opensuse-factory] Digi kam and kipi deps unfullfilled.(many!)

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Hi,

Yast2 is now able to apply the proposed options, and gets the update
goiong, but does not save the unfullfilled deps to a list, in fact, now
nothing is saved at all.
Before the update at least this was saved:

 YaST2 conflicts list - generated 2008-01-05 17:17:31 


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Is it possible to completely do without Gnome?

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M9. schreef:
 
 
 Andreas Jaeger schreef:
 Rajko M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 On Thursday 03 January 2008 02:43:27 am Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 Rajko M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Let me jump in, as I had the same problem.
 I don't use GNOME, but I guess that I have almost all installed. I
 laughed when Metacity and evolution data server were listed as
 dependency, but I had no time to play with, so I just let zypper install
 everything. I can't recall what pulled them in, but I'll try to see is
 there anything in zypper log.
 It would be interesting to see which packages exactly pull those - or
 others in.  Please check the specifics,

 Andreas
 I'm trying to locate log file that may contain recent problem, but it is
 probably the same as this one:
 http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse-factory/2007-09/msg00630.html

 That above was on 64 bit installation (a guess), and this is 32 bit.
 So, I suggest to check whether beagle-thunderbird is installed - and
 then figure out which package in the dependency chain is unneeded
 (meaning: Grabs in so many packages),
 
 Andreas
 
 In my case, i uninstalled total beagle, allmost immediately, had many
 choices to make, and install pkgs manualy afterwards.
 

It did not help much though.
It got installed again by itself yesterday, as part of factory-base or
something i guess...

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[opensuse-factory] Online dist-update with Yast2, without digikam and kipi (unsolvable deps), succesfull.

2008-01-06 Thread M9.
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Hi,

As subjectline...
Floppy visible on taskbar, tried to format some diskettes, but that
failed, helas.

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Re: [opensuse] Firefox 2.0.0.11 doesn't open an URL in Thunderbird

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Erik Jakobsen schreef:

 M9!
 
 Many thanks. I never have seen this wonderfull tool. No I can open
 Firefox instead of Konqueror in my IRC :-)

YW, did it solve the whole problem?

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Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself

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Patrick Shanahan schreef:

 Yes, you must be still affected by Saturday night activities now to
 make the previous statement.  And the post was *not* about you in
 particular, but feel guilty if you must.

???

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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts.

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Rajko M. schreef:

 
 Can we continue on offtopic list.
 

Which address is?
Looked: http://en.opensuse.org/NB-Communicate#Development_Lists
but did not find it... ;-)
Maybe i overlooked it, many lists.

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Patrick Shanahan schreef:
 * M9. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-06-08 11:14]:
 
 Patrick Shanahan schreef:
 
 Yes, you must be still affected by Saturday night activities now to
 make the previous statement.  And the post was *not* about you in
 particular, but feel guilty if you must.
 ???
 
 
 Brown bottles of amber liquid  :^)
 

Ahh, ..hik..beer..hik...?

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Patrick Shanahan schreef:
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 Which address is?
 Looked: http://en.opensuse.org/NB-Communicate#Development_Lists
 but did not find it... ;-)
 Maybe i overlooked it, many lists.
 
 
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Factory-Upgrade impossible due to gnomekeyring.

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M9. schreef:
 
 
 JP Rosevear schreef:
 On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 14:01 +0100, Dirk Mueller wrote:
 On Sunday 30 December 2007, M9. wrote:

 Many pkgs depend on this.
 The most annoying is that not installing totem would be the right
 solution, but it is impossible to apply that proposel...
 Please post error messages, do not interpret them. I was able to do a 
 factory
 update just fine.
 libtasn1 is a new requirement and has not been synced to the external
 factory tree yet.  You can get libtasn1* from GNOME:UNSTABLE as a work
 around for now.
 
 -JP
 
 True, adding gnome unstable fullfilled the required deps.
 
 But now new deps are troublesome: nfs-client, needs libevent-1.3b.so.1()
 
 And the deps cannot be saved to a list:
 
  YaST2 conflicts list - generated 2008-01-05 17:17:31 
 
 
  YaST2 conflicts list END ###
 
 
 
 

Upgrading nfs-client, and yast2nfs-client manualy, rose no problems.
Factory update was possible after this.

Filed a bug about this: Bug 351894

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Re: [opensuse] Firefox 2.0.0.11 doesn't open an URL in Thunderbird

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K.R. Foley schreef:
 Erik Jakobsen wrote:
 K.R. Foley wrote:
 But when should I be promted for default browser ?.
 When you restart firefox?

 I still cannot get URL's from Thunderbird opened with Firefox



 Ok, but Firefox just opens


 Hmm. Not sure then. It only seems to prompt when it is not the default
 browser. If it doesn't prompt then perhaps it is already the default.
 Something else must be wacked. Unfortunately, I am running both
 Thunderbird and Firefox as downloaded tar file installations, not the
 SUSE pkgs.


There isalso the way trough the kde-configmanager, did you try that?

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Re: [opensuse] Firefox 2.0.0.11 doesn't open an URL in Thunderbird

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Erik Jakobsen schreef:
 M9. wrote:
 There isalso the way trough the kde-configmanager, did you try that?

 Thanks for the reply. No I didn't try that option.
 
 Please tell a bit more about it. Thanks!
 

Just open the KDE-config manager  kde-components  componentchooser.

here you can define the default browser and mailprog.
mostly this works.


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Update channel for patches or broken pkgs?

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Rajko M. schreef:
 On Saturday 29 December 2007 06:32:04 am M9. wrote:
 Hi,
[snip]

 
 
 The Factory is strange repository. 
 It is like end of assembly line, before inspection, in real manufacturing 
 plant ie. factory. It doesn't need repair repository. 
 
 You as a inspector just drop bad assembly, write findings in the bugzilla, or 
 this list, and take another piece that is comming.
 
 Try to use 
   zypper se yast2
 than 
   zypper up -t package list of yast2
 The list is manually created with paste and copy from first list. 
 
 

Exactly so does not work, but, when 'se' the list, i found out that many
packages were not updated. (if a V in front of the pkg, means: update
available, if not, these pkgs were not present.)
Anyway: the command you suggested had too many arguments,
but 'sudo zypper in
yast2 autoyast2 yast2-add-on autoyast2-installation yast2-apparmor
yast2-backup yast2-bootloader yast2-control-center
yast2-control-center-qt yast2-core yast2-country yast2-country-data
yast2-firewall yast2-hardware-detection yast2-inetd yast2-irda
yast2-iscsi-client yast2-kerberos-client yast2-ldap yast2-ldap-client
yast2-mail yast2-metapackage-handler yast2-mouse yast2-ncurses
yast2-network yast2-nfs-client yast2-nis-client yast2-ntp-client
yast2-online-update yast2-online-update-frontend yast2-packager
yast2-pam yast2-perl-bindings yast2-pkg-bindings yast2-printer
yast2-profile-manager yast2-qt yast2-registration yast2-repair
yast2-restore yast2-runlevel yast2-samba-client yast2-samba-server
yast2-scanner yast2-schema yast2-security yast2-slp yast2-sound
yast2-storage yast2-storage-lib yast2-sudo yast2-support yast2-sysconfig
yast2-theme-openSUSE yast2-theme-openSUSE-Crystal yast2-trans-nl
yast2-trans-stats yast2-transfer yast2-tune yast2-tv yast2-update
yast2-update-FACTORY yast2-users yast2-x11 yast2-xml yast2-xml-debuginfo

did the trick, eventualy...

after that, some deps were fullfilled automaticly.

It is still downloading, things i did not order, but might be allright,
i'll wait and see.





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Re: [opensuse-factory] Update channel for patches or broken pkgs?

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M9. schreef:
 
 
 Rajko M. schreef:
 On Saturday 29 December 2007 06:32:04 am M9. wrote:
 Hi,
 [snip]
 
 
 The Factory is strange repository. 
 It is like end of assembly line, before inspection, in real manufacturing 
 plant ie. factory. It doesn't need repair repository. 
 
 You as a inspector just drop bad assembly, write findings in the bugzilla, 
 or 
 this list, and take another piece that is comming.
 
 Try to use 
   zypper se yast2
 than 
   zypper up -t package list of yast2
 The list is manually created with paste and copy from first list. 
 
 
 
 Exactly so does not work, but, when 'se' the list, i found out that many
 packages were not updated. (if a V in front of the pkg, means: update
 available, if not, these pkgs were not present.)
 Anyway: the command you suggested had too many arguments,
 but 'sudo zypper in
 yast2 autoyast2 yast2-add-on autoyast2-installation yast2-apparmor
 yast2-backup yast2-bootloader yast2-control-center
 yast2-control-center-qt yast2-core yast2-country yast2-country-data
 yast2-firewall yast2-hardware-detection yast2-inetd yast2-irda
 yast2-iscsi-client yast2-kerberos-client yast2-ldap yast2-ldap-client
 yast2-mail yast2-metapackage-handler yast2-mouse yast2-ncurses
 yast2-network yast2-nfs-client yast2-nis-client yast2-ntp-client
 yast2-online-update yast2-online-update-frontend yast2-packager
 yast2-pam yast2-perl-bindings yast2-pkg-bindings yast2-printer
 yast2-profile-manager yast2-qt yast2-registration yast2-repair
 yast2-restore yast2-runlevel yast2-samba-client yast2-samba-server
 yast2-scanner yast2-schema yast2-security yast2-slp yast2-sound
 yast2-storage yast2-storage-lib yast2-sudo yast2-support yast2-sysconfig
 yast2-theme-openSUSE yast2-theme-openSUSE-Crystal yast2-trans-nl
 yast2-trans-stats yast2-transfer yast2-tune yast2-tv yast2-update
 yast2-update-FACTORY yast2-users yast2-x11 yast2-xml yast2-xml-debuginfo
 
 did the trick, eventualy...
 
 after that, some deps were fullfilled automaticly.
 
 It is still downloading, things i did not order, but might be allright,
 i'll wait and see.
 
 
 
 
 

With yast2 everything is ok again, factory update-module is also present...
Yast2 has a very nice new gui, btw..;-), Nice work!

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[opensuse-factory] Factory-Upgrade impossible due to gnomekeyring.

2007-12-30 Thread M9.
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Hi,

Many pkgs depend on this.
The most annoying is that not installing totem would be the right
solution, but it is impossible to apply that proposel...

Yast solver does not apply: not install gnomekeyring.

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[opensuse-factory] Is it possible to completely do without Gnome?

2007-12-30 Thread M9.
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Hi,

I upgraded all pkgs manualy choosen..
When trying to get rid of gnome, this was impossible...
Very anoying, to have to install pkgs and apps to your system, you never
use, just to fullfill deps.

Is there a way to check which gnome specific pkgs are realy needed to
run suse?
I am satisfied with KDE and if xfce is dependable on gnome, i will get
rid of it also.

I want to run a 'gnomeclean' KDE environment.
Is this possible?
(strange that these have to be mixed to function anyway.)

This way i am forced to 'check' gnome also, which i do not want.
It is silly, that it is not possible to update a system, due to an
invalid DE, one not wants to use, don't you agree?

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[opensuse-factory] Update channel for patches or broken pkgs?

2007-12-29 Thread M9.
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Hi,

It might sound stupid and...
Maybe i am mistaken, or dreamed it, but was there not an url for to
update broken factory pkgs?
If there was or is such a 'channel',or url, would the one who knows the
adress please put it in this list?

The reason i ask this, is to be able to repair broken apps, like Yast or
smart.
Some pkgs where these depend on are broken, and thus unuseable...

tia.

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[opensuse-factory] Not possible to update factory for few days now, something wrong?

2007-12-24 Thread M9.
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As in subjectline..

Merry x-mas, and a happy new year to all of you...

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Not possible to update factory for few days now, something wrong?

2007-12-24 Thread M9.
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M9. schreef:
 As in subjectline..
 
 Merry x-mas, and a happy new year to all of you...
 

To be a little more specific about today's issue.
(please do not be bothered by a few dutch words, they are merely of non
significance, the probs are well enough discribed in english.. ;-)


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ sudo zypper in zypper
root's password:
* Cache van bron 'openSUSE-FACTORY 11.0' lezen
* Cache van bron 'openSUSE-extra-FTP 11.0' lezen
* Cache van bron 'openSUSE_Factory' lezen
* Cache van bron 'mozilla' lezen
* Cache van bron 'openSUSE-debuginfo-FTP 11.0' lezen
* Geïnstalleerde pakketten worden gelezen [100%]


De volgende pakketten zullen worden opgewaardeerd:
  zypper zypper-debuginfo

Totale downloadgrootte: 2,1 M Na de operatie zal 163,3 K worden vrijgemaakt.
Doorgaan? [ja/nee]: j
pakket zypper-0.9.4-2.x86_64 wordt gedownload, 471,3 K (1,6 M uitgepakt)
Downloadt: media
* Downloading [100%]
Downloadt: zypper-0.9.4-2.x86_64.rpm
* Downloading [100%]
* Installeert zypper-0.9.4-2 [100%]
pakket zypper-debuginfo-0.9.4-2.x86_64 wordt gedownload, 1,6 M (5,6 M
uitgepakt)
Downloadt: media
* Downloading [100%]
Downloadt: zypper-debuginfo-0.9.4-2.x86_64.rpm
* Downloading [100%]
* Installeert zypper-debuginfo-0.9.4-2 [100%]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ zypper lu
* Cache van bron 'openSUSE-FACTORY 11.0' lezen
* Cache van bron 'openSUSE-extra-FTP 11.0' lezen
* Cache van bron 'openSUSE_Factory' lezen
* Cache van bron 'mozilla' lezen
* Cache van bron 'openSUSE-debuginfo-FTP 11.0' lezen
* Geïnstalleerde pakketten worden gelezen [100%]

Geen opwaarderingen gevonden.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ sudo zypper dup
* Cache van bron 'openSUSE-FACTORY 11.0' lezen
* Cache van bron 'openSUSE-extra-FTP 11.0' lezen
* Cache van bron 'openSUSE_Factory' lezen
* Cache van bron 'mozilla' lezen
* Cache van bron 'openSUSE-debuginfo-FTP 11.0' lezen
* Geïnstalleerde pakketten worden gelezen [100%]

2 problemen:
Probleem: No valid solution found with just resolvables which suitalbe
best suitable for your system.
Probleem: gnome-keyring kan niet worden geïnstalleerd omdat
afhankelijkheden ontbreken

Probleem: No valid solution found with just resolvables which suitalbe
best suitable for your system.
  With this run only resolvables with the best fit have been regarded.
Het overwegen van alle mogelijke oplosbaren neemt enige tijd in beslag
maar kan een bruikbaar resultaat opleveren.
 Oplossing 1: Voer een oplosbaarheidsdraai uit met ALLE mogelijkheden.
  Alle oplosbaren met geschikte architectuur worden overwogen.
Choose the number, (s)kip, (r)etry or (c)ancel s

Probleem: gnome-keyring kan niet worden geïnstalleerd omdat
afhankelijkheden ontbreken
  Er zijn geen installeerbare aanbieders van libtasn1.so.3()(64bit) voor
gnome-keyring-2.21.4-2.x86_64[openSUSE-FACTORY_11.0]
=== gnome-keyring-2.21.4-2.x86_64[openSUSE-FACTORY_11.0] ===
gnome-keyring-2.21.4-2.x86_64[openSUSE-FACTORY_11.0] zal worden
geïnstalleerd door een ander programma (ApplLow/ApplHigh)
gnome-keyring-2.21.4-2.x86_64[openSUSE-FACTORY_11.0] is nodig voor
gnome-main-menu-0.9.8-135.x86_64[openSUSE-FACTORY_11.0]
(libgnome-keyring.so.0()(64bit))
gnome-keyring-lang-2.21.4-2.x86_64[openSUSE-FACTORY_11.0] zal
opnieuw worden geëvalueerd voor installatie door
gnome-keyring-2.21.4-2.x86_64[openSUSE-FACTORY_11.0] (gnome-keyring ==
2.21.4-2)

 Oplossing 1: gnome-keyring niet installeren
  gnome-keyring-2.21.4-2.x86_64[openSUSE-FACTORY_11.0] niet installeren
 Oplossing 2: Negeer deze vereiste hier
Choose the number, (s)kip, (r)etry or (c)ancel 2
Oplossing 2 wordt toegepast
Afhankelijkheden oplossen...
2 problemen:
Probleem: No valid solution found with just resolvables which suitalbe
best suitable for your system.
Probleem: gnome-keyring kan niet worden geïnstalleerd omdat
afhankelijkheden ontbreken

Probleem: No valid solution found with just resolvables which suitalbe
best suitable for your system.
  With this run only resolvables with the best fit have been regarded.
Het overwegen van alle mogelijke oplosbaren neemt enige tijd in beslag
maar kan een bruikbaar resultaat opleveren.
 Oplossing 1: Voer een oplosbaarheidsdraai uit met ALLE mogelijkheden.
  Alle oplosbaren met geschikte architectuur worden overwogen.
Choose the number, (s)kip, (r)etry or (c)ancel

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Not possible to update factory for few days now, something wrong?

2007-12-24 Thread M9.
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Stephan Kulow schreef:
 Am Montag 24 Dezember 2007 schrieb M9.:
  Oplossing 1: gnome-keyring niet installeren
   gnome-keyring-2.21.4-2.x86_64[openSUSE-FACTORY_11.0] niet installeren
 
 Yeah, gnome-keyring niet installeren is de juist kreuze
 
 Groetjes, Stephan
 P.S. Don't expect a working factory over the christmas holidays
 

No, i do not expect  such a thing with these days..
I tried this, but zypper looped on that... helas.
Filed a bug about it:  Bug #350580

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Re: [opensuse] keeping a copy of installed rpms

2007-12-24 Thread M9.
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Carlos E. R. schreef:
 
 
 The Monday 2007-12-24 at 09:54 +0200, Dave Plater wrote:
 
 ...
 
 All I want for Christmas is a yast that saves its installed rpm,s or at
 
 They are preparing that for opensuse 11.
 
 least help ( directions to routine that clears cache to save me hours of
 looking for it ) to change it myself.
 
 Dunno... but I think the download directory is arbitrary, not constant.
 I'm thinking. If, while it is downloading, you discover where it is
 downloading (use 'ps afx|less', for instance), and then hardlink each
 rpm there to another location, they will not be deleted from the disk:
 they will dissapear from the yast directory, but not from the other. But
 you have to do this fast, before yast deletes each one.
 
 As to the piece of code... dunno. Somebody will know. Perhaps in the
 factory list.
 
 Sounds interesting.
 
 -- Cheers,
Carlos E. R.

It certainly does.
An option to save or not, default off, could be made, whereby the rpm's
are moved to another dir, instead of deleted.

especialy when testing stuff, sometimes things get broken, beyond repair
when not having working pkgs.
Which now sometimes causes to do a new install, which is not the same,
and can have issues, that weren't there before..

One should have 2gig spare room for a downgrade to store..
one could downgrade the whole at once, or look for the pkgs that have to
be temporarely replaced.

This will not be very easy, as sometimes very many pkgs are involved,
with many, many deps to solve...




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Re: [opensuse-factory] 21/12/07, Many unsatisfied deps, when zypper dup.

2007-12-23 Thread M9.
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Robert Kaiser schreef:
 Markus Koßmann wrote:
 The current dependency problem seems to be that there is a update to
 openldap-2.4 but there are still many packages , which have
 dependencies on
 libldap-2.3/liblber-2.3
 
 Even more fun is that here suddenly the default fonts in all GTK/GNOME
 apps stopped working (KDE stuff still works fine). This means that also
 all Mozilla-based apps, xchat and others only display sqauers instead of
 characters to me. Whatever font this is I have for writing and
 displaying mail messages does only show up those squares for spaces and
 not for normal characters, so I can write thise message at least.
 
 I think this is the first time ever since summer or so when I started
 using FACTORY that it's completely unusable for my daily operations -
 and I so badly would need my computer working today :(
 
 Robert Kaiser
 
 

There are allready filed bugs about this issue..

Bug #349940
Bug #350019

But it seem to have been solved...

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Missing deps..20/12/07

2007-12-21 Thread M9.
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Rajko M. schreef:
 On Thursday 20 December 2007 07:43:17 am M9. wrote:
 
 My queston: should zypper not uninstall the allready installed (older)
 version(s) first, and than install the newer version(s), or am i wrong
 here?
 
 You don't want that.  
 
 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=301676
 


Ah yes, i clearly see the point now, thnx, won't ask again.. ;-)

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[opensuse-factory] 21/12/07, Many unsatisfied deps, when zypper dup.

2007-12-21 Thread M9.
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Hi,

I am looking for yast to be repaired, but it is nearly impossible to
update now, every solution causes another problem atm.
Does anyone know a solution for the Yast2 problem?
After the update yesterday, it does not show when called upon.
even the dos-version does not respond.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rpm -qa | grep yast2
yast2-storage-lib-2.16.6-7
yast2-pam-2.16.0-24
yast2-control-center-2.16.0-7
yast2-backup-2.16.1-3
yast2-ldap-client-2.16.5-3
yast2-metapackage-handler-0.7.3-13
yast2-qt-2.16.9-2
yast2-pkg-bindings-2.16.7-2
yast2-firewall-2.15.8-35
yast2-x11-2.15.11-56
yast2-printer-2.16.6-7
yast2-registration-2.16.0-15
yast2-nis-client-2.16.0-23
yast2-samba-server-2.16.0-27
autoyast2-2.16.3-3
yast2-trans-nl-2.15.12-2
yast2-slp-2.15.0-59
yast2-control-center-qt-2.16.0-7
yast2-bootloader-2.16.3-3
autoyast2-installation-2.16.3-3
yast2-hardware-detection-2.16.0-7
yast2-2.16.18-3
yast2-irda-2.15.1-122
yast2-scanner-2.15.5-70
yast2-ldap-2.15.1-108
yast2-sound-2.16.1-17
yast2-kerberos-client-2.16.1-3
yast2-security-2.15.1-52
yast2-repair-2.16.2-14
yast2-tune-2.15.7-51
yast2-users-2.16.5-3
yast2-sudo-2.15.3-118
yast2-update-2.16.1-15
yast2-trans-stats-2.15.0-46
yast2-country-data-2.16.4-3
yast2-core-2.16.16-2
yast2-nfs-client-2.15.0-52
yast2-mouse-2.16.0-13
yast2-ncurses-2.16.7-3
yast2-xml-2.16.0-10
yast2-apparmor-2.1-54
yast2-support-2.15.3-42
yast2-storage-2.16.6-7
yast2-ntp-client-2.16.2-9
yast2-tv-2.16.0-27
yast2-fingerprint-reader-2.16.2-3
yast2-installation-2.16.8-2
yast2-restore-2.16.0-15
yast2-add-on-2.16.0-22
yast2-inetd-2.15.1-72
yast2-perl-bindings-2.16.0-29
yast2-transfer-2.16.0-4
yast2-bluetooth-2.15.4-46
yast2-sysconfig-2.15.3-85
yast2-packager-2.16.12-3
yast2-online-update-2.16.6-3
yast2-network-2.16.17-3
yast2-samba-client-2.16.1-13
yast2-mail-2.15.23-34
yast2-control-center-gnome-2.13.2-127
yast2-schema-2.15.0-156
yast2-theme-openSUSE-2.16.1-2
yast2-runlevel-2.16.0-15
yast2-country-2.16.4-3
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yast2-online-update-frontend-2.16.6-3
yast2-profile-manager-2.16.0-14
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Re: [opensuse] Why beagle?

2007-12-21 Thread M9.
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Carlos E. R. schreef:


 The Thursday 2007-12-20 at 13:29 -0600, Kevin Dupuy wrote:

 OK, here's the issue: you're not most people. I'm not most people. All
 of us subscribed to this mailing list are probably not most people. And
 most people don't name their files orderly, and put them in logical
 places. I've seen people who write something about a project about the
 Civil War and name it project.doc. I would name it Civil War
 Project.odt, and that person put the file in their My Pictures folder
 because that's where the Save dialog box is open to. They are the people
 who would benefit most from Beagle, and that's also about 90% of the
 computing population, so if openSUSE wants to reach that 90%, it a good
 idea to have Beagle installed by default and turned on.


 True enough.


 Hint; if you:

 touch ~/.dontrunbeagle

 then it will not run for that user. So I understand. :-)

 -- Cheers,
Carlos E. R.


I remember that one off the first things i did, when using 10.3, was
uninstall beagled, and all alike them...
The difference?
I could use my PC when i saw fit, and not when after half an hour my
mouse was moving a littele again..

I never missed one bit of it.. ;-)

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[opensuse-factory] Missing deps..20/12/07

2007-12-20 Thread M9.
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Hi,

Is there a place or list wher missing deps should be reported?

__ tia.



Probleem: java-1_5_0-sun-plugin kan niet worden geïnstalleerd omdat
afhankelijkheden ontbreken
  Er zijn geen installeerbare aanbieders van jre-1.5.0-sun-32 ==
1.5.0_update13-15 voor
java-1_5_0-sun-plugin-1.5.0_update13-15.i586[openSUSE-extra-FTP_11.0]
===
java-1_5_0-sun-plugin-1.5.0_update13-15.i586[openSUSE-extra-FTP_11.0] ===

java-1_5_0-sun-plugin-1.5.0_update13-15.i586[openSUSE-extra-FTP_11.0]
zal worden geïnstalleerd door een ander programma (ApplLow/ApplHigh)
sed-4.1.5-73.x86_64 is nodig voor
java-1_5_0-sun-plugin-1.5.0_update13-15.i586[openSUSE-extra-FTP_11.0]
(sed == 4.1.5-73)
findutils-4.2.31-33.x86_64 is nodig voor
java-1_5_0-sun-plugin-1.5.0_update13-15.i586[openSUSE-extra-FTP_11.0]
(/usr/bin/find)
atom:java-1_5_0-sun-plugin-1.5.0_update13-0.3.i586 zal opnieuw
worden geëvalueerd voor installatie door
java-1_5_0-sun-plugin-1.5.0_update13-15.i586[openSUSE-extra-FTP_11.0]
(java-1_5_0-sun-plugin == 1.5.0_update13-15)

java-1_5_0-sun-plugin-1.5.0_update13-15.i586[openSUSE-extra-FTP_11.0] is
nodig voor atom:java-1_5_0-sun-plugin-1.5.0_update13-0.3.i586
(java-1_5_0-sun-plugin == 1.5.0_update13-15)
java-1_5_0-sun-1.5.0_update13-15.i586[openSUSE-extra-FTP_11.0]
levert jre-1.5.0-sun-32 == 1.5.0_update13-15, maar een andere versie van
pakket is al geïnstalleerd.



Probleem: enchant kan niet worden geïnstalleerd omdat afhankelijkheden
ontbreken
  Er zijn geen installeerbare aanbieders van libenchant.so.1 voor
enchant-1.3.0-12.i586[openSUSE-FACTORY_11.0]
=== enchant-1.3.0-12.i586[openSUSE-FACTORY_11.0] ===
enchant-1.3.0-12.i586[openSUSE-FACTORY_11.0] is nodig voor
libenchant1-1.3.0-12.x86_64[openSUSE-FACTORY_11.0] (enchant = 1.3.0)
glibc-32bit-2.6.1-29.x86_64[openSUSE-FACTORY_11.0] is nodig voor
enchant-1.3.0-12.i586[openSUSE-FACTORY_11.0] (libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3.4))
libgcc43-32bit-4.3.0_20071129-6.x86_64[openSUSE-FACTORY_11.0] is
nodig voor enchant-1.3.0-12.i586[openSUSE-FACTORY_11.0] (libgcc_s.so.1)
libstdc++43-32bit-4.3.0_20071129-6.x86_64[openSUSE-FACTORY_11.0] is
nodig voor enchant-1.3.0-12.i586[openSUSE-FACTORY_11.0] (libstdc++.so.6)
glib2-32bit-2.14.4-2.x86_64[openSUSE-FACTORY_11.0] is nodig voor
enchant-1.3.0-12.i586[openSUSE-FACTORY_11.0] (libglib-2.0.so.0)
pcre-32bit-7.4-7.x86_64[openSUSE-FACTORY_11.0] is nodig voor
enchant-1.3.0-12.i586[openSUSE-FACTORY_11.0] (libpcre.so.0)
aspell-32bit-0.60.5-57.x86_64[openSUSE-FACTORY_11.0] is nodig voor
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libenchant1-1.3.0-12.i586[openSUSE-FACTORY_11.0] levert
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Missing deps..20/12/07

2007-12-20 Thread M9.
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Stephan Kulow schreef:
 Am Donnerstag 20 Dezember 2007 schrieb M9.:
 Hi,

 Is there a place or list wher missing deps should be reported?


 This list is fine, but perhaps you can call your zypper with english locale
 before you report problems.

 Greetings, Stephan

This sounds more simple than it is..
(or should i change all to english?)

For me it is not a problem, for the packetmanager also not.

java-1_5_0-sun-plugin-1.5.0_update13-15.i586[openSUSE-extra-FTP_11.0]
offers it, but another version is allready installed.

It says that pkgs are missing, ie no-one offers them atm.
I can choose not to install the packages, the deps are missing for, or,
as zypper tells me: '..will be installed by another programm..' (app
low/app high) whatever that means...

anyway,i will check the pkgs with yast, to find out what is the matter.

libenchant1-1.3.0-12.i586[openSUSE-FACTORY_11.0] is offered, but also
another version is installed.

My queston: should zypper not uninstall the allready installed (older)
version(s) first, and than install the newer version(s), or am i wrong here?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Missing deps..20/12/07

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M9. schreef:
 
 
 Stephan Kulow schreef:
 Am Donnerstag 20 Dezember 2007 schrieb M9.:
 Hi,

 Is there a place or list wher missing deps should be reported?

 This list is fine, but perhaps you can call your zypper with english locale
 before you report problems.
 
 Greetings, Stephan
 
 This sounds more simple than it is..
 (or should i change all to english?)
 
 For me it is not a problem, for the packetmanager also not.
 
 java-1_5_0-sun-plugin-1.5.0_update13-15.i586[openSUSE-extra-FTP_11.0]
 offers it, but another version is allready installed.
 
 It says that pkgs are missing, ie no-one offers them atm.
 I can choose not to install the packages, the deps are missing for, or,
 as zypper tells me: '..will be installed by another programm..' (app
 low/app high) whatever that means...
 
 anyway,i will check the pkgs with yast, to find out what is the matter.
 
 libenchant1-1.3.0-12.i586[openSUSE-FACTORY_11.0] is offered, but also
 another version is installed.
 
 My queston: should zypper not uninstall the allready installed (older)
 version(s) first, and than install the newer version(s), or am i wrong here?
 

Helas, Yast2 is invalid, and doesn't show... sorry..

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Re: [opensuse-factory] new live cd 2.5

2007-12-12 Thread M9.
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Stephan Kulow schreef:
 Hi!

 I updated the live CDs again to fix the remaining X config problem,
 so if you want to try it - grab 2.5 of either gnome or kde from
   ftp://beta.suse.com/private/10.3-livecd

 If no-one got a new problem, I'll push it on download tomorrow

 Greetings, Stephan


The file contains a mistake, after a while it cannot be read: not bij
konqueror (kde4), and not bij kget in 11.0 alpha0.1, and stops the download.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] new live cd 2.5

2007-12-12 Thread M9.
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M9. schreef:
 
 
 
 
 Greetings, Stephan
 
 
 The file contains a mistake, after a while it cannot be read: not with
 konqueror (kde4), and not with kget in 11.0 alpha0.1, and stops the download.
 it stops at 6%..

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[opensuse-factory] factory marked 'invalid' by zypper, and switched off.

2007-12-12 Thread M9.
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Hi,

Updating gets tyresome with the network bug: incompatible
sender/receiver protocols, resultingi update-server time-out errors, and
reinserting the commands.
Now showing the extreme use for the command memory in the navigation
keys :-), (briljant solution, who-ever invented that!)


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[opensuse-factory] Something known about servers overloaded?

2007-12-12 Thread M9.
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Hi,

Iinstalled the new version just, but had to switch server, because i got
thrown out of the download every 2nd or so pkgs.
I switched from gwdg to chemnitz, which throwed me out only 3 times.

I ask because i want to know if i am the only one who gets thrown out.

This morning i tried to download the new kde 10.3 repair iso, but did
not manage to finish it.

i am using: Linux 2.6.24-rc4-git6-2-default x86_64 atm.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] How to add /home/RPM/ to the rpm database?

2007-12-11 Thread M9.
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d_garbage schreef:
 On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:16:10 -, M9. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 What i realy want is just install an rpm from the right-mouse menu in
 konqueror.
 It offers that option, but after given the root password, it *allways*
 ends with the frase: can not find:
 /home/monkey9/RPM/huppeldepup-5.3.1-6.noarch.rpm (whatever)
 
 Sorry to hear you are having such troubles with this! Maybe the factory
 software management is quite different now to 10.3?

No, for me this does not work for a few versions allready...

 Anyway, for me too Install Software right-click option fails. It asks
 for password, reads the RPM database then just craps out and disappears.
 
 However, I _can_ successfully install by going via Preview in KRPMView
 right-click option, and then choosing Install Package with YaST. This
 works perfectly.

Sometimes it does, and sometimes it does not.

 
 Also came across this wiki about creating a repos:
 http://en.opensuse.org/Creating_YaST_Installation_Sources

Thnx..

 Best of luck! I have seen you many times testing and commenting on stuff
 like KDE4 and so on. It's activity like that which helps make opensuse
 even better :)
 Cheers,
 David

Let us hope so.. ;-)

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Re: [opensuse-factory] How to add /home/RPM/ to the rpm database?

2007-12-11 Thread M9.
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d_garbage schreef:
 On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:14:57 -, M9. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When: zypper in audiokonverter (you need rootprivileges to install pkgs)
 sudo etc, zypper took the newest package from six or eight
 audiokonverter-pkgs that were there..so..

 Well in gui, when in Software management screen, you can click on the
 package then select versions tab and choose which version you want to
 use.

 With zypper you can do it too - from man page:

  install (in) [options] --capability capability ...
   Install or update packages or other resolvables.

   The resolvables can be selected by their name or by a
 capability
   they provide.

   Capability  is: NAME, or NAME[OPEDITION], where OP is
 , =,
   =, =, or  and EDITION is VERSION[-RELEASE], for
 example:  zyp‐
   per=0.8.8-2.

   The  NAME  component  of a capability is not only a
 package name
   but any symbol  provided  by  packages:  /bin/vi,
 libcurl.so.3,
   perl(Time::ParseDate).   Just  remember  to quote to
 protect the
   special characters from the shell, for  example:
 zypper\0.8.10
   or 'zypper0.8.10'

   If  EDITION  is not specified, the newest available
 version will
   be installed.  This also means that if the  package  is
 already
   installed and newer versions are available, it will get
 upgraded
   to the newest one.

 This is typically obtuse man-page-speak to this simple user (gives me a
 headache!) but suggests you can select which version, provided you can
 unravel this explanation.

 Cheers,
 David


Yep, documenting is different from coding..

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Amarok crashes after update.

2007-12-11 Thread M9.
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Dirk Mueller schreef:
 On Monday 10 December 2007, M9. wrote:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ amarok
 
 you`re talking about factory update? 
 
 can you run gdb amarokapp and then send the backtrace in a bugreport?
 
 Thanks,
 Dirk
 

OK.

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