Re: [opensuse] make_bad_sector in OS 10.3?

[Philipp Thomas]

* Greg Freemyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20080129 01:28]:

> I just read that hdparm v7.7 is supposed to include make_bad_sector.
> (e-mail posted by the hdparm author.)

The author seems to err :) The only place make_bad_sector is mentioned in
the 7.7 sources is in the TODO file and nowhere else.

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Re: [opensuse] tunapie?

[Philipp Thomas]

* Aaron Kulkis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20080129 12:06]:
>
> Out of curiousity, have you tried kaffeine?

Kaffeine is not a pure stream tuner.

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Re: [opensuse] tunapie?

[Philipp Thomas]

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:22:52 -0500, Carl Hartung wrote:

>Fantastic! It works!! :-)

Did you think I'd state the availability without having checked that it
works ? ;-

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Re: [opensuse] tunapie?

[Philipp Thomas]

* Carl Hartung ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20080128 16:27]:

> Anyone here having better success with this package? If so, care to share
> your secrets? ;-)

See the openSUSE build service, there should soon be tunapie packages. This
is IMO stupidly done, as the install script has /usr/local hardcoded and
requires python-wxGTK without any mentioning in INSTALL and without any
check done before installation.

Thanks for the tip BTW, as I only knew of streamripper, which I package for
the distribution.

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Re: [opensuse] Will there be a LTS version of OpenSuse?

[Philipp Thomas]

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:23:40 +0100, peter wrote:

>Keep dreaming. There is no problem in getting such a contract.

Even if you know people that provide you with access, you can't offer
those packages openly without being sued. So there is no legal way to do
something like CentOS, unless you're willing to do the maintenance
yourself.

>Read the GPL.

I've done so many times, believe me. It it says that you have to offer
the source code to those that receive the binaries and we do that.

>Wo ein Wille ist, ist auch ein Weg. ;)
Ja, aber keinen legalen.

Maybe, but there is no legal way you could do it, so you can't do it in
the open.

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Re: [opensuse] Strange SATA problems with openSUSE

[philipp . thomas]

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:15:46 +0100, Clayton wrote:

>how is this fix supposed to be applied since the problem is there on the 
>master ISO?

As Tejun wrote, by way of a driver update disk. You insert the disk at
installation time and the installation will use updated drivcers it
finds on it.

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Re: [opensuse] Will there be a LTS version of OpenSuse?

[Philipp Thomas]

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 03:15:37 +0100, peter wrote:

>Something like: If you want a nice vacation then why don't you build
>your own hotel? This is that kind of logic I really admire, indeed.

Then how do you suppose distributions like Debian came to happen?

>Just take SLES and its updates  and do a re-branding. It's mostly 
> open source.

You're wrong once again. You need a valid maintenance contract in order
to get access to the updates. So rebranding won't work.

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Re: [opensuse] Will there be a LTS version of OpenSuse?

[Philipp Thomas]

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 23:30:40 +0100, peter wrote:

>I would tend to agree. IMO there should be an additional LTS release of
>Opensuse. 

This is comunity guys, so nobody stops you from doing something like
that, even though Novell will stick to the SLE/SLED products. Grab the
packages and do a stable release much in the way CentOS does it-

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Re: [opensuse] USB to ATA IDE Adapter, howto boot from it?

[Philipp Thomas]

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:22:04 -0800, John Andersen wrote:

>Say he has Windows on the USB device.  Then what?  You expect that
>to boot with linux drivers?

Please get the context right. I answered to Aaron, not the OP, because
it's not necessary to compile in drivers. 

>I see no reason to expect Windows or Solaris to run with Linux drivers
>found in the initrd.

That is a totally different thing to which I said nothing! No Linux
driver will help there, in fact no driver at all will help there if your
BIOS doesn't support booting from USB media.

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Re: [opensuse] USB to ATA IDE Adapter, howto boot from it?

[Philipp Thomas]

* John Andersen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20080124 23:05]:

> Have you actually DONE this?  It sounds like speculation
> to me.

How do you think your kernel boots, given that the ide/sata/scsi drivers
and the drivers for the file system you use aren't compiled into the kernel?
They're loaded via the initrd and that incorporates the drivers that the
install determined to be needed.

I haven't tried with USB, but with any other boot media I've encountered. If
the kerrnel can boot off that media, it can also load the initial ramdisk
and that in turn is easiest built by using mkinitrd.

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Re: [opensuse] USB to ATA IDE Adapter, howto boot from it?

[Philipp Thomas]

* Aaron Kulkis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20080124 11:23]:

> So, part of the solution is recompiling the kernel
> to include the USB module (and all the others which
> the USB module depends on).


Nonsense! You add the necessary modules to INITRD_MODULES in
/etc/sysconfig/kernel and then afterwards call mkinitrd. It's that simple!

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Re: [opensuse] Always mount a USB drive with NTFS-3G?

[Philipp Thomas]

* Greg Freemyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20080123 19:25]:

> Any solution for NTFS?

ntfslabel, its part of the ntfsprogs package.

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Re: [opensuse] Open Source Graphics Cards (was: Why are there not more using Linux?

[Philipp Thomas]

* Philippe Landau ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20080124 17:43]:

> Great. What experience do list members have with those cards ?

There are no cards (yet) as up to now some of Intels chipsets include the
graphics engine.

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Re: [opensuse] Gimp and Firefox

[Philipp Thomas]

On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:28:22 +0100, peter wrote:

>Consider what would happen to Apple sells if Adobe would perform such a
>port.

To be frank, I'd say it wont do much. My observations tell me that most
Apple users in the arts and ad business have no interest in Linux.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: No sound in 10.3, but it work in 10.0

[Philipp Thomas]

On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 10:42:42 -0800, Lutz Maibaum wrote:

>On Friday 18 January 2008 12:28:06 David C. Rankin wrote:
>> Lutz Maibaum wrote:
>> > ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 5
>> > PCI: setting IRQ 5 as level-triggered
>> > ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:1f.3[B] -> Link [LNKB] -> GSI 5 (level,
>> > low) -> IRQ 5
>> > ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:1f.5[B] -> Link [LNKB] -> GSI 5 (level,
>> > low) -> IRQ 5
>> > ACPI: PCI interrupt for device :00:1f.5 disabled
>> >
>> > The device 00:1f.5 is the sound card, according to lspci.

>Does that give anybody any clues?

Do open a bugreport on https://bugzilla.novell.com . I guess that's the
easiest way to get competent answers.

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Re: [opensuse] libglx.so: undefined symbol: _nv000069gl [Solved]

[Philipp Thomas]

On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:29:42 +, Chris Ross wrote:

>[time passes]... Apparently not, YaST tells me the list of things that 
>would break is as long as your arm.

For *running* applications your system should use the nvidia OpenGL libs
as you need them for accelerated 3D. For *building* apps, the Mesa libs
should be used as otherwise those applications won't run without nvidia
libraries which obviously you don't want.

>are -- e.g. the information that deleting this will break /ogre/ makes 

Just try deleting the package manually with rpm and it will give you the
names that you can then again feed into rpm to get info on the packages.
 
>/usr/X11R6/lib/ comes before /usr/lib/ (which really feels *wrong* to
>me)

You mean the precedence? That's not really astonishing.

BTW, you needn't remove the mesa libraries, just make sure there is only
one libGLcore.so.1 symlink that points to  the nvidia library and all
should be well.

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Re: [opensuse] Gimp and Firefox

[Philipp Thomas]

On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 00:22:48 -0500, Fred A. Miller wrote:

> but unfortunately the people who produce it have their collective 
> heads planted where there's no sunlight and won't port it to Linux.

Ah, once again on your favourite crusade?

Just maybe because calculations tell Adobe that the effort of porting
Photoshop to Linux and maintaining it won't be profitable? Plus all
those third party photoshop plugins which their repective manufacturers
would also have to ported to Linux?

That's not to say I wouldn't welcome a Linux version of Photoshop.

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Re: [opensuse] encrypting your home partition

[Philipp Thomas]

On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 06:18:51 -0800 (PST), PerfectReign wrote:

>This is email. There is no thread.

Either you simply forgot a smiley or I don't get it. Of cause there are
mail threads. What do you think In-Reply-To and References in the mail
header were invented for?

Yes, there are those wannabe MUAs such as Outlook, Groupwise and Notes
that constantly ignore the existence of In-Reply-To, but that's a
different story.

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Re: [opensuse] XOrg update and SWT apps

[Philipp Thomas]

On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:46:07 +0100, Tamás Cservenák wrote:

> today i have applied (actually updater offered and i said 'yes') this update:
> xorg-x11-libs-7.2-103.2_103.4.i586.delta.rpm
>
> And since then, my primary tool (Eclipse Europa) is dead! Same happens
> on Sun JDK 1.6 and Sun JDK 1.5.

If you search the archive to this list, you'll see that this has been
discussed already. Seems that the latest security update for
xorg-x11-libs makes apps like eclipse stop working. Install the original
version of xorg-x11-libs from the installation DVD.

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Re: [opensuse] BASH .bashrc su question

[Philipp Thomas]

On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:19:57 -0600, David C. Rankin wrote:

>   Someone more clever than I must surely have solved this. How can I set 
>through .bashrc or some other more secure way, the ability to alias "su" 
>with its password so I don't have to type my root password every time I 
>su.

I use ssh on localhost for such purposes. Just add your ssh key to
root's .ssh/authorized_keys and then use 'ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]' to either
get a root shell or run commands (which may require X11 forwarding set
for ssh).

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Re: [opensuse] Will there be a LTS version of OpenSuse?

[Philipp Thomas]

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:10:51 +0100 (CET), Carlos E. R. wrote:

>With a salary of 3€ (I used € for my calculations, or $=€)  per year, 
>which is a high salary here for a supervisor in my country, that makes

€3/year would barely get you a junior programmer here (if at all).
If he's got a CS degree, you'd have to raise that significantly. And $
is € is ~ $ 1.5 

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Re: [opensuse] Will there be a LTS version of OpenSuse?

[Philipp Thomas]

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:58:43 +0100, jdd wrote:

>An other answer said I can do it myself and it's what I plan to do, so 
>why shouldn't somebody do this for a fee?

Somebody may do it, but not Novell. Our developers are stressed enough
by maintaining SLE. Besides, you don't really expect Novell to cut into
its sales of maintenance by offering a LTSP openSUSE, do you?

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Re: [opensuse] Installing "wink" to capture streaming video

[Philipp Thomas]

On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:12:10 +0100, peter wrote:


>However this part getting pretty off topic. If you still have the urge
>to continue then please feel free to use a pm.

Given that you won't admit you stated false claims this ends the
discussion with a PLONK.

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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE_10.3 vs openSUSE_Factory

[Philipp Thomas]

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:47:55 +0100 (CET), Carlos E. R. wrote:

>> And generally enjoy living on the bleeding edge -)
>
>Better stress that of "bleeding" ;-)

Well,  living on the bleeding edge does imply you'll bleed now and then
:) I used to like that too some time ago, but nowadays it suffices to
take part in developing that bleeding edge as part of my daytime job and
enjoy a stable system for in leisure time :)

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Re: [opensuse] Installing "wink" to capture streaming video

[Philipp Thomas]

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:03:03 +0100, peter wrote:

>Call me stupid but I still don't see the point of having src.rpm w/o a
>source inside.

How would you otherwise build installable RPMs which you *need* to make
a package cleanly and reliably installable and deinstallable and be able
to manage dependencies, at least in a distribution like openSUSE that's
based on RPMs? 

The *only* viable way is by using a .spec to install files and then let
them be packaged in one or more binary RPMs. The original files
including the .spec file are automatically packaged as .src.rpm. How
else do you think we create installable the RPMs for Adobe acrobat or
Opera for which there also is no source code?

Please think about it a bit more and it should be obvious why you need
.src.rpm no matter if you got sources to compile or simply files to
install. With your reasoning, it would also make no sense to put a
bundle of shell scripts into a .src.rpm.

>Still you do not explain why using src.rpm instead of rpm!

Because you're not allowed to distribute the software as a directly
installable RPM? A .src.rpm allows you to build such a package for
yourself.

>Looks like you do have slightly bigger problems than me my friend.

Me, problems? I tend to disagree with you :)

Who wrote that he doubts that such a package would be available? Who
ridiculed me without checking first? Definitely not me!

Its the same everywhere: you should be able to prove your claims before
stating them in the public otherwise people will stop believing what you
say.

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Re: [opensuse] YAST2 not displaying package descriptions

[Philipp Thomas]

* M9. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20080111 10:57]:

> These guys work hard to improve the app, so they deserve to get tested.

Yepp. I didn't mean to discourage people, just make them wary that there are
issues they should be aware of.

Philipp

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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE_10.3 vs openSUSE_Factory

[Philipp Thomas]

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 05:46:50 -0300, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:

>Factory is a highly experimental place, you should only go there if you 
>want to be a tester, report bugs and help us ;)

And generally enjoy living on the bleeding edge -)

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Re: [opensuse] VirtualBox & dos6.22 guest

[Philipp Thomas]

On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:43:43 -0700, Tom Patton wrote:

>My athlon FX 2800 cpu goes to 99% immediately when the dos guest boots.

Known problem for ages :(  DOS is agnostic of other possible CPU users
and keeps the CPU busy by not emitting wait instructions to halt the
CPU. It's up to the VM to handle that.

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Re: [opensuse] YAST2 not displaying package descriptions

[Philipp Thomas]

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:53:14 +, Timothy Cahill wrote:

>I'm now using SMART as my software manager, and it is working perfectly. From 
>these directions 

Just keep in mind that smart seems ignorant of architecture as it will
happily upgrade x86_64 packages with i586 ones and vice versa, i.e. not
destinguish between 32 and 64 bit packages.

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Re: [opensuse] Installing "wink" to capture streaming video

[Philipp Thomas]

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 00:01:56 +0100, peter wrote:

>Quite impossible. AFAIK there is no scr.rpm for it m8. It's closed
>source although freeware.

Now what would you call
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/10.3/standard/src/wink-1.5-65.src.rpm
, an Illusion?

A .src.rpm doesn't necessarily contain source code! This one contains
the tarball and calls the installer.sh from its .spec file. But then it
packages the files in a .rpm which can be installed like any other
package and also removed without problems.

In the future I'd verify such statements before stating them publicly
it'd be less embarassing.

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Re: [opensuse] Installing "wink" to capture streaming video

[Philipp Thomas]

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 03:30:46 +0100, Philippe Landau wrote:

>Could someone please help me install this application on OpenSuse 10.3 ?
>http://www.debugmode.com/wink/

I'd try this:

1) Download and install (via 'rpm -Uvh') the wink .src.rpm from
software.opensuse.org .
2) Change to /usr/src/packages/SOURCES and on i386 call
'rpmbuild -bb wink.spec' or on x86_64 (uname will tell you the
architecture) call 'linux32 rpmbuild -bb wink.spec').
3) Install the binary package you just built and which was put in
/usr/src/packages/RPMS/i586

If you have problems with this please post *all* info like the exact
error messages you get (complete cut&paste) other you have to provide
the crystal ball we'd need to help you.

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Re: [opensuse] Installing "wink" to capture streaming video

[Philipp Thomas]

* Philippe Landau ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20080107 06:47]:
> http://software.opensuse.org/search?p=1&baseproject=ALL&q=wink

Which package precisely are you trying to install? I only get the .src.rpm
listed which is probably not what you want.

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Re: [opensuse] odd /usr/bin thing

[Philipp Thomas]

On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 01:23:41 -0500, Bob S wrote:

>While searching for files in /usr/bin I noticed something that seems odd to 
>me. There is a folder in there named X11. It is a link to the same folder. If 
>you open it, it shows the exact same thing as /usr/bin.

This is all as it should be. This symlink /usr/bin/X11 -> /usr/bin
exists for compatibility with programs that  search in /usr/bin/X11.

Shells and file managers get confused by this recursion and don't
shortcut it.

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Re: [opensuse] Bug - PHP-5.2.5 + fcgi

[Philipp Thomas]

On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 11:23:43 +0100, Peter Conrad wrote:

>[I know there's a bugtracker. I tried to report this there. Found
>out you need a login. Tried to register - filled out all fields on
>the registration form. Result was a blank page with a novell logo.
>Great.

Please try again, it normally works.

> So I'm posting here now - please reply off-list.]

Bugreports in bugzilla are the *only* reliable way to get Novell/SuSE
developers to look at and possibly fix bugs. Nearly none of them reads
this list so reports here will mostly be lost.

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Re: [opensuse] Novell Client for 10.3

[Philipp Thomas]

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:43:13 -0500, Chris Arnold wrote:

>Using 10.3 
[...]
>an OES2 box.  download novell-client-1.1-SuSE10.tar.gz from novell and

Which is most probably meant to be used on SLED, which is based on SuSE
Linux 10.1. 

>How do you get the novell client installed on 10.3?

Maybe the client for openSUSE 10.2 will work on 10.3:
http://download.novell.com/Download?buildid=gLV3R-WXUGw~

>On SLED, this was not a problem.

Because the package was built for it. For newer versions you need newer
packages.

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Re: [opensuse] Why beagle?

[Philipp Thomas]

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:57:50 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:

>Catering to idiots only encourages them to continue
>their idiotic behavior.

By fully quoting the mail just to add that comment you're joining the
club.

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Re: [opensuse] tickless x86_64?

[Philipp Thomas]

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:14:39 -0800, Linda Walsh wrote:

>Does the "NO_HZ" option not work on x86_64?

Yes, It's currently not supported on x86_64. Even on i386 it does have
some problems AFAIK.

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[opensuse] Re: resistance (was: UNSUBSCRIBE)

[Philipp Thomas]

On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:25:05 -0500, James Knott wrote:

>Resistance is futile, if less than one ohm.  ;-)

Make that one milliohm and it fits.

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Re: [opensuse] ESATA

[Philipp Thomas]

* Greg Freemyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20071209 17:15]:

> Auto rescan is supposed to happen now for many drivers.
> 
>  To check your hardware's support, see
> http://linux-ata.org/driver-status.html#matrix  (this is actually 6-9
> months old)

According to that matrix, auto rescan should work with the ICH7 on my mobo
but fact is it doesn't with the eSATA drive I used for testing.
 
> And to manually rescan:
> 
> echo - - - > /sys/class/scsi_host/hostX/scan
> 
> Remember, sata drives are handled by the scsi subystem, so you're
> actually invoking a scsi rescan.

I know that, I jsut forgot to mention the actual command. Thanks for
providing that!

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Re: [opensuse] Where did my free space go?

[Philipp Thomas]

On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 09:41:34 -0300, Ciro Iriarte wrote:

>Hi, once 10.2 was released I installed it on my laptop using  ext3
>instead of reiserfs to avoid support issues.

We will support reiserfs, it's just not the default anymore.

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Re: [opensuse] First Moonlight port of Silverlight to Linux due in six months, ported by Novell.

[Philipp Thomas]

On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 11:28:44 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:

>Finally a platform for easily building desktop apps on Linux that don't
>suck.
   
Hmm, opinions an that tend to differ. As a reference point, zmd was a
mono app.

>2.) Moonlight will save *LOTS* of people from having to run Internet
>Explorer in order to access sites they MUST use in order to do their
>jobs.

Oh come on! At least in its current state, I really doubt that anyone is
actually using silverlight. I have yet to come aross a web site that
uses it.

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Re: [opensuse] ESATA

[Philipp Thomas]

On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 21:46:30 -0500, Fred A. Miller wrote:

>Someone else here said that Linux doesn't handle plug and play ESATA nor
>SATA yet, and that is quite right. It's obviously an area that needs to
>be addressed SOON as more and more new boxen are being produced with
>ESATA connections.

Oh come on Fred! It's far less serious then you make it to be.

>You have to restart the system with power to the external hard drive and
>the ESATA port connected for it to work.

No! You just need to initiate a rescan which, AFAIK, you can do without
a reboot.

>Once you disconnect the drive, you'll get a "smart" error telling you that
>the drive is about to fail..annoying but that's about it.

Yes, because you also have to initiate a bus rescan for the system to
notice that the drive has gone.

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Re: [opensuse] format external harddisk to ntfs

[Philipp Thomas]

On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 16:28:30 +0100, jdd wrote:

>> The better choice would be to use ext2
>
>ext3 as well

Not really. all drivers/apps for Windows only support ext3 because the
difference is mostly the journal. AFAIK, no driver/app supports the ext3
journal, so in reality, they only support ext2.

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Re: [opensuse] Multiple audio apps

[Philipp Thomas]

On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:58:36 +1000, John wrote:

>but have never been able to get everything to work 
>together. ie one or the other will either complain about  inaccessible 
>resources, or just refuse to start.

In order to be able to have multiple audio sources working in parallel,
you need a multiplexer, i.e. a device that mixes different audio streams
into one. This can either be hardware or software. Soundblaster cards
since the live! (i.e. emu 10K chip) are able to mix in hardware so they
don't need additional measures.

If the hardware  can't multiplex, you need a software multiplexer and
alsa (the sound system in newer kernels) offers one which you should be
able to setup with YaST.

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Re: [opensuse] Need help doing a batch conversation lf - cr/lf

[Philipp Thomas]

* Randal Jarrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20071207 06:00]:

> get file, convert file, put file in the same subdir as original but in
> new structure.

Something like;

pushd 
for f in "$(find  -type f)"; do
destdir=/$(dirname $f)
file=$(basename $f)

if [ ! -d $destdir]; then
mkdir -p $destdir
fi
unix2dos $f $destdir/$file
done
popd

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Re: [opensuse] format external harddisk to ntfs

[Philipp Thomas]

* Aaron Kulkis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20071206 08:45]:

> Instead, use a FAT32 filesystem

Stupid idea if you ever want to store any file > 2 GiB like DVD isos on that
fs.

The better choice would be to use ext2 as there are drivers for Windows. You
ust have to remember that given todays disk sizes, a fsck can take rather
long.

And I have to say NTFS 3G has work reliably enough to use NTFS for my
external disk.

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Re: [opensuse] adding links in /etc/init.d/rc*.d/

[Philipp Thomas]

On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:06:10 -0700, Jason Craig wrote:

>Say I've installed some software, like PostgreSQL, that adds a beautiful 
>script to /etc/init.d/ that starts or stops the server.  Now I want to 
>start the server in, say runlevel 3, so I know I need to add links to 

It depends on how you installed the software. If it's a rpm for
openSUSE, the header of the init script contains all the needed info so
you just use either chkconfig or insserv to create the necessary
symlinks. If you compiled the software from source, check that the init
script has a LSB conforming header (see /etc/init.d/skeleton for a
template) and otherwise add such a header to the init script. Afterwards
just use insserv or chkconfig to create the runlevel symlinks.

Manually created symlinks will be removed the next time insserv gets
run!

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Re: [opensuse] 4 Gig memory installed only 3 Gig seen? openSuSE 10.0

[Philipp Thomas]

On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:35:04 -0500, Fred A. Miller wrote:

>It's very helpful to have 4G when working on some of the photos I edit,
>or more recently have scanned and am restoring in Gimp.

As you may have noticed, I was talking about WinXP.

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Re: [opensuse] 4 Gig memory installed only 3 Gig seen? openSuSE 10.0

[Philipp Thomas]

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:00:24 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:

>I don't know about Windows XP. I'd have thought it capable of handling
> that, but I've never tried and don't have any real information.

No version of XP supports PAE. That support is only offered by Windows
Server 2003. Your only chance would be 64 bit XP on machines that
support it. That's why my 32 bit XP (on a dual core Athlon64) shows 3 GB
on my 4 GB machine with remapping enabled, although it detects PAE.

>Maybe it's one of those things where 
>you have to buy the deluxe, chrome-plated, bug-reduced "enterprise" 
>version, or something...

Exactly that. It's deemed a server feature and thus only avialble for
those willing to hand over big money.

But rather it's useless anyway as applications can get 2 GiB at max.

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Re: [opensuse] 4 Gig memory installed only 3 Gig seen? openSuSE 10.0

[Philipp Thomas]

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:24:35 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:

>One possible, even probable problem is the physical address range in 
>which I/O device registers are presented to the operating system. In 
>machines that can address only 4 GB of physical address space, the 
>range from 3-4 GB typically holds these addresses.

Sorry, but it has nothing to do with the physical address space per se.
What *does* matter is the PCI bus, more precisely the 32 bit PCI
devices. These need addresses below 4 GiB for I/O because that's the
limit you can address with 32 bit.

PC BIOSes typically reserve 500 MiB or 1GiB for such devices, which
results in that many RAM being unavailable (anybody remember the gap
between 640 KiB and 1 MiB on the PC that was reserved for BASIC ROM,
VIDEO BIOS and the BIOS?).

Now some systems offer an option that makes this 'hidden' memory
available at addresses *beyond* the 4 GiB threshold. 

To access this memory you either need a PAE enabled kernel (i.e. a
kernel that can handle the diffrent addressing with AFAIR 36 bit) or, on
machines supporting x86-64 (aka AMD64/EM64T), a 64 bit kernel.

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Re: [opensuse] ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 4047, errno = 11

[Philipp Thomas]

* David C. Rankin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20071106 08:20]:

> ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 4047, errno = 11
> 
> Any idea what it is or means?

Now it's probably too late, but in such a case, call 'ps aux' and see which
process the reported pid belongs to. This helps immensly is narrowing the
search.

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Re: [opensuse] make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1

[Philipp Thomas]

On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:07:13 +0700, Hans Linux wrote:

>i m trying to install gphpedit from source, since there is no rpm packet
>for opensuse 10.3. configure runs well and make give me this error :
>
>make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1

There must be more than this! Please also post the lines before this final
message.

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[opensuse] Re: solved with Etch .deb (was: Re: ksensors does not display harddisk temperature)

[Philipp Thomas]

On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:31:55 +0200, Eberhard Roloff wrote:

>So for the fun of it, I downloaded the Debian Etch Packet of ksensors
>and converted this to an rpm with the alien utility.

You have an URL? I could then try to compare the two rpm packages and maybe
find out the difference.

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Re: [opensuse] Old kde bug.

[Philipp Thomas]

On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:15:25 -0700, Kai Ponte wrote:

>however they should be paying attention in order to know what is going on in 
>the real world.

They don't have the time to do that and aren't paid for doing so. They do read 
relevant lists like the KDE,  binutils,
glibc or gcc development lists. 

>Most people - such as me - wouldn't know the first thing about how to report a 
>bug.

That's why pages like  http://en.opensuse.org/Submitting_Bug_Reports exist.
If you want the bug you experience to be noticed by SUSE/Novell developers and 
other People reponsible for the
distribution, you must report it via bugzilla.

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Re: [opensuse] Linux patent suit: In search of the Microsoft smoking gun

[Philipp Thomas]

On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 05:34:24 -0600, John Meyer wrote:

>So according to you, when Ballmer issues patent threats against Red Hat
>based on an unverified and unsubstantiated report taken badly out of
>context we should be talking about the weather?

No, but you should talk ON A DIFFERENT LIST! opensuse-offtopic is the
correct list for such stuff.

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[opensuse] Re: Gramps and 10.3

[Philipp Thomas]

* Gunnar Haaland ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20071010 08:02]:
> Gramps will not start. I have tried to install it with the 1 clik
> from opensuse pages. I have downloaded the rpm and tried it with Yast.
> but it will not start. It install without any error, when i tries to run
>  Gramps from a terminal, I get a segment. error.

>From which repository did you take the gramps package?
http://software.opensuse.org/search isn't working at the moment os I can't
search myself.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: subpixel hinting: why not out of the box?

[Philipp Thomas]

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 03:50:33 -0400, Cristian Rodriguez wrote:

>it *might* because it is not known for sure, it has to be proven in
>court, but certainly no one wants to take that risk.

And the most prominent reason being that such legal battles will cost
a lot of money, even when you win in the end.

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[opensuse] Re: To all people who have JAVA problems, please read

[Philipp Thomas]

[Please refrain from top posting, thanks]

On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:58:41 -0700, Chuck Davis wrote:

>I have to strongly disagree.  That install makes it impossible to stay
>current for those of us who work on the cutting edge of Java and
>Netbeans.

And? Sun Java just happens to not be the only Java implementation.
There is at least IBM's and BEA's version. If you want to work on the
cutting edge, you'll have to do all on your own, so simply remove
SUSE's Java package, ignore FHS and only install Sun's tarballs.

>I want it now.
> Additionally, I live on the daily development builds of Netbeans so I
>wouldn't even be able to THINK about using a SUSE repository for
>updates of my IDE.

Those that work on the cutting edge risk bleeding now and then.

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[opensuse] Re: find problem

[Philipp Thomas]

On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:22:14 -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote:

>Can someone explain the following "find" error. The "path" is specified
>by the "." in the command line.
>
>find . -name *copy_3* -exec rm {}\;
>
>find: paths must precede expression

*Always* quote arguments when using wildcards. And if you expect find
to find a larger number of files, it's more economic to do

find . -name \*copy_3\* -print0|xargs -0 rm

because you then call rm less often, most likely only once and not for
every single file.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: Dependecies for libdt4-x11?

[Philipp Thomas]

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 06:17:02 -0400, Chris Arnold wrote:

>I get the same exact error when using that rpm from your link.

If you only need the runtime libraries, i.e. don't want to compile
packages using Qt4, you need to install the following packages from
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Education:/desktop/SLE_10/i586
libqt4-4.3.1-12.1.i586.rpm
libqt4-qt3support-4.3.1-12.1.i586.rpm
libqt4-sql-4.3.1-12.1.i586.rpm
libqt4-x11-4.3.1-12.1.i586.rpm

If you also want to rebuild packages using Qt4, you additionally need
libqt4-devel-4.3.1-12.1.i586.rpm

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[opensuse] Re: Dependecies for libdt4-x11?

[Philipp Thomas]

On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:52:54 -0400, Chris Arnold wrote:

>What are the dependencies for libqt4-x11-4.2.1-20.i586.rpm?
>
>I am trying to install skype 1.4 on SLED SP1 but i get this when trying
>to install libqt4-x11:

You're using the wrong rpm! SLED 10 is based on SLES 10 and thus on
10.1, not 10.2. Please try with the libqt4 available from the openSUSE
build service
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Qt/SLE_10/i586/

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Re: [opensuse] How to manage 100+ linux boxes?

[Philipp Thomas]

On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:36:22 +0200, jef peeraer wrote:

>well, i should install 1 ( or maybe 2 ) LTSP servers, and turn the 100 
>suse boxes into thinclients with LTSP.

This is NLPOS, normally running on special hardware for point-of-sale.
You'd get problems when you simply replace that with LTSP.

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[opensuse] Re: does any have not on asus m232 motherboard

[Philipp Thomas]

* Patrick Shanahan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20070904 18:25]:

> My locally retained posts from opensuse pertaining to asus forwarded
> to your email act.

Funny, I didn't have any problems with the ASUS boards I bought, the last
one being a socket 939 nforce4 board (forgot the name).

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[opensuse] Re: VMware 64-bit

[Philipp Thomas]

On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 22:33:07 +0200, Anders Johansson wrote:

>On AMD, I believe it is revision D or later,

Easier to remember: it must be a socket AM2 cpu.

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[opensuse] Re: Missing library : libwx_gtk2u_aui-2.8.so.0

[Philipp Thomas]

* Jan Engelhardt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20070817 13:51]:

> There is (in user repositories), and webpin would have told you where ;-)

I'm just not used to them fancy BS tools :-) But as I finally got around to
open home:psmt that's changing.

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[opensuse] Re: has anybody installed AWN svn on his openSUSE?

[Philipp Thomas]

Gee do I hate to correct myself that much :(

* Philipp Thomas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20070817 14:33]:

> http://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=home%3Apsmt

Which is only accessible if you have a buildservice account. So either go to
http://software.opensuse.org/search and search for avant-window-navigator,
libawn1 and libawn1-devel respectively or (much easier) add home:psmt as an
additional repo and use zypper/smart/app to fetch the packages.

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[opensuse] Re: has anybody installed AWN svn on his openSUSE?

[Philipp Thomas]

* Philipp Thomas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20070816 22:01]:

> After the next sync you'll find the .src.rpm and .x86_64.rpm packages below
> /pub/people/pth/FACTORY on ftp.suse.com and it's mirrors. Feedback is
> appreciated.

Nah, I remembered there's this thing called buildservice :) The packages (I
split them into avant-window-navigator, libawn and libawn-devel) are
available in the home:psmt repo
http://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=home%3Apsmt

Have fun
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[opensuse] Re: Missing library : libwx_gtk2u_aui-2.8.so.0

[Philipp Thomas]

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:48:25 +0700, Hans Linux wrote:

>simdock: error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk2u_aui-2.8.so.0: 

You need to install the wxGTK.rpm from the 10.3 beta or Factory. What
version of openSUSE are you running? If it's 10.2, then there is no
wxGTK 2.8.x package for that system and you would have to build it
from source.

Where did you get the simdock rpm from? Was it explicitly built for
SuSE/openSUSE? If not, chances are high that you'll get problems.

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[opensuse] Re: has anybody installed AWN svn on his openSUSE?

[Philipp Thomas]

* Munkii ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20070809 23:56]:

> any progress on your package?

Yes, it's finished! The .desktop files aren't in their final state, but as
long as there are no really matching XDG categoriess, they'll have to do.
You'll see that I added a number of patches and some of them I'll send
upstreams.

After the next sync you'll find the .src.rpm and .x86_64.rpm packages below
/pub/people/pth/FACTORY on ftp.suse.com and it's mirrors. Feedback is
appreciated.

Maybe I can get Pascal (aka Guru) to adopt my spec for a svn package of AWN
in the buildservice.

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Re: [opensuse] Java Plugin for Firefox

[Philipp Thomas]

* Dale Schuster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20070815 18:46]:

> MozillaFirefoxopenSUSE 10.2 (i586)

Ok, that's a 32 bit package. Now what is the ouput of the same command for
the Java package you installed? I just guess that it's a x86-64 package. If
that's the case, install the 32 bit Java package instead and all should be
OK.

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Re: [opensuse] Java Plugin for Firefox

[Philipp Thomas]

* Dale Schuster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20070814 20:33]:

> I am trying to enable java within the Firefox browser on opensuse 10.2 
> x86_64.  I installed the Sun Java .bin file under /usr/java/jre1.5.0_11. 
> There is a link to /usr/java/jre1.5.0_11 called "default" in the same 
> directory.

What's the output of

  rpm -q --queryformat '%-30{NAME}%{DISTRIBUTION}\n' MozillaFirefox

AFAIR, the 32 bit version of Firefox is installed by default on x86-64 and
that wpuld of cause need a 32bit java package.

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Re: [opensuse] GCC on AMD64 architecture

[Philipp Thomas]

* jpff ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20070815 11:33]:
> Actually i was just hoping to short-cut the search, or better be able
> to tell the Ubuntu builder that the error was real.
>   The library in question is pivotal to many audio applications, and
> this is the next version I have been building.

Again: what problems do you have exactly? If I knew the actual problem I
could possibly help to locate the culprit. Why don't you just explain the
real problem and let others help you?
 
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Re: [opensuse] GCC on AMD64 architecture

[Philipp Thomas]

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:40:06 +0100 (BST), John ffitch wrote:

>I am chasing a difference between a library compiled on 64bit Ubuntu 
>and 64bit Suse10.2.  (basically it fails the tests on SuSE but is OK on 
>Ubuntu)

Please tell exactly what the difference is, then maybe we can help you
or at least point you in the right direction.

>Can this really be a problem?

In itself  not.

>Why is SuSE on a prerelease?

Be our toolchain folks decided so. Keep in mind that some core gcc
developers work for SUSE/Novell and that it was SuSE that did the
original port of gcc to x86-64. These folks normally know what they're
doing :)

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Re: [opensuse] 64bit gone sour, downgrade to 32bit, how?

[Philipp Thomas]

[Let's keep this on the list, please]

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 09:47:49 +0200, Thierry de Coulon wrote:

>That's not always true - or I don't know how to do it. I used to run a 
>scanning software (VueScan)
[...]
>Well, anyway, Hamrick does not provide a 64 bit Linux version and the 32 bit 
>version stubbornly refuses to work on my 64 installs.

Yes, that is a problem. Such software that's close to the hardware is
the exception. 

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Re: [opensuse] 64bit gone sour, downgrade to 32bit, how?

[Philipp Thomas]

On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 19:03:12 -0700, joe wrote:

>I did say that linux64 is great for generic server roles on largish hardware,
>where you can do everything using what ships from the linux vendor, and where
>the hardware is big enough to benefit from the 64-bit OS.

Sorry, it's not only great on servers but on desktops/workstations as
well, *if* you choose the hardware wisely.

>Many vendors make only a 32-bit version of their linux offerings,

That shouldn't be a problem, as you can happily run 32bit apps an
biarch platform such as AMD64/EM64T.

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Re: [opensuse] 64bit gone sour, downgrade to 32bit, how?

[Philipp Thomas]

On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 16:43:53 -0700, joe wrote:

>You're much more likely to have success resolving any driver issues
> on the 32-bit install.

That's just not true! The only case where a 64 bit Linux can be a
problem is when you need to use a binary only driver and the
manufacturer doesn't supply it. My experience shows that open source
drivers are mostly just as bad or good on a 32 bit Linux as they are
on a 64 bit one.

So if a driver doesn't work under 64 bit Linux chances are very low
it'll suddenly start to work as a 32 bit version.

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[opensuse] Re: compress? uncompress? Why are they gone? - With a twist towards the future ?

[Philipp Thomas]

On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 11:42:40 +1000, Registration Account wrote:

>For all of those who know Netware well, you know the
>disk volume is by default as being compressed

I seems to me you haven't followed the thread. We're not talking about
on-disk compression or compressing filesystems but about the classic
*n ix utility called compress.

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[opensuse] Re: compress? uncompress? Why are they gone?

[Philipp Thomas]

On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 16:16:32 +0200 (CEST), Carlos E. R. wrote:

>Plus, there is a "/usr/share/man/man1p/compress.1p.gz" file that belongs 
>to "man-pages-2.41-11", but no compress binary anywhere.

compress was removed because it used a patented compression algorithm
( I'm not shure if the patent is still valid though) and gzip can
uncomress archives produced by compress.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: has anybody installed AWN svn on his openSUSE?

[Philipp Thomas]

* Munkii ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20070809 23:56]:
> 
> gcc package is broken on alpha7 i filed a bug but it turned out to be a
> duplicate, 

Bug number? 

> any progress on your package?

Nope :( No valid Category in .desktop files -> no package.

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[opensuse] Re: has anybody installed AWN svn on his openSUSE?

[Philipp Thomas]

On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 17:24:44 +0300, Munkii wrote:

>even better, i just installed alpha7 yesterday, i haven't been able to
>even install the basic dependencies for AWN, they're either not in the
>factory repos or yast/zypper is acting out on me, i just got smart up,
>and i'll see what i can do..

My last hurdle are the .desktop files for awn and awn-settings where I
need to come up with a category listing our build system groks (I know
next to nothing about .desktop files).  But that means that the
package itself builds so it shouldn't take long until I have it all in
place.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: has anybody installed AWN svn on his openSUSE?

[Philipp Thomas]

On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 11:53:24 +0300, Munkii wrote:

>> I'll post the .spec once I have a working one.
>> 
>> Philipp
>
>ok, i'm assuming you haven't read my former mail, because i post it
>under a different name, here it is -->
>http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2007-08/msg00115.html

OK, you're searching for a solution for 10.2! My work is for FACTORY.

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[opensuse] Re: has anybody installed AWN svn on his openSUSE?

[Philipp Thomas]

On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 23:34:05 +0200, Philipp Thomas wrote:

>Actually the dependency problems are rather small. I took a spec for
>Fedora 6

That's not correct. I looked at
http://awn.wetpaint.com/page/SVN+Fedora+Core+6 and took the necessary
packages from the yum call, removing packages not needed as they're
automatically installed when using the build script. These are the
resulting BuildRequires for awn:

BuildRequires:  intltool libwnck-devel gnome-desktop-devel
BuildRequires:  libgnome-devel gnome-vfs2-devel dbus-1-glib-devel
BuildRequires:  gnome-common

I'll post the .spec once I have a working one.

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[opensuse] Re: has anybody installed AWN svn on his openSUSE?

[Philipp Thomas]

On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 01:00:23 +0300, Munkii wrote:

>> That way you get a rpm package compiled specifically for your system
>> that, when installed, is registered with the system and easily
>> removable.
>
>there is still the dependency problem i mentioned earlier, look it up..

Actually the dependency problems are rather small. I took a spec for
Fedora 6 and could use that with small changes. But something else is
broken in the source that I have to research. I'll report when I have
a working package. Maybe Pascal (aka GURU) will take on from there.

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[opensuse] Re: has anybody installed AWN svn on his openSUSE?

[Philipp Thomas]

On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 18:12:10 +0300, Munkii wrote:

>> http://awn.wetpaint.com/page/SuSE+RPM+Specfile?t=anon
>> 
>
>i don't know, it sounded like a mind job, i'm not familiar with building
>rpm's, and i'm not going to start now, i have too much stuff going, i'm
>sure there's an easier way.. no?

It *is* very easy:

 - Copy the awn tarball and the specfile from that web page to
   /usr/src/packages/SOURCES

 - Change to that directory and call 'rpmbuild -ba'.

This will build both the binary and the source rpm and will place the
resulting binary package somewhere below /usr/src/packages/RPMS/ and
the .src.rpm in /usr/src/packages/SRPMS.

That way you get a rpm package compiled specifically for your system
that, when installed, is registered with the system and easily
removable.

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[opensuse] Re: has anybody installed AWN svn on his openSUSE?

[Philipp Thomas]

On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 02:07:35 +0300, Munkii wrote:

>after going through the installation instruction described at this link:
>http://awn.wetpaint.com/page/SVN+Version+Installation  multiple times
>and with all the built-in dependency hell, i end up with this error:

1. These instructions were obviously written for debian, as apt-get is
not necesarily the tool of choice for openSUSE.
2. The names of the development packages are invalid for openSUSE as
a) the development packages on openSUSE all end with -devel and
b) openSUSE packages are sometimes named differently.

I'd suggest looking at Requires and BuildRequires entries in the .spec
file of the GURU .src.rpm to possibly get a hint what packages are
needed.

>> grep: /opt/gnome/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.la: No such file or directory

Use pin or webpin to search for the file. You fail to mention which
version of openSUSE you have installed and on which architecture
you're running it, but for FACTORY libgtk-x11-2.0.la is contained in
gtk2-devel.

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Re: [opensuse] gcc Linking Problem

[Philipp Thomas]

On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 10:44:50 +0300, Daniel Feiglin wrote:

>Thank anyway - and the moral of the story is that the days of frigging
>around with simple things (?) like gcc and glibc - have come and gone.

Neither gcc nor glibc are simple things! As everything in the
distribution (with a few exceptions) is linked dynamically, your whole
system depends on glibc. If you trash glibc, your whole systems stops
to function.

Tinkering with gcc and glibc should only be done by someone who knows
exactly what he's doing and of the consequences his doing will have.

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Re: [opensuse] Screen saver question.

[Philipp Thomas]

Fred,

* Fred A. Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20070710 18:04]:

> Why is it that other distros. ship with a GREAT 3D screen saver in
> FireWorks-GL.full motion video, sound, lots of setup options. 'Would
> be nice to ship WITH that in the next release..hint, hint. ;)

If you want that, file an enhancement request with bugzilla. That way you a)
directly reach those responsible and thus b) get a direct answer.

Philipp
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[opensuse] Re: Triple screen options

[Philipp Thomas]

* koffiejunkie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20070710 15:49]:

> Xinerama, for one, breaks hardware 3D, and some things behave weirdly.  I
> am not sure if this is Xinerama's fault, or if it is a side effect from
> having two physical cards.

It's Open GL to blame as it can't handle more then one display. If you use
NVidia cards with their proprietary driver and thus have to use NVidia's
twinview, you don't have that problem as twinview will present itself as
one display with huge dimensions. But even my quadcore Intel box will kind
of crawl when using an OpenGL app such as bzflag.

> I've looked online at cards like the Matrox G450 Quad, and wondered if 
> anyone has experience running these under linux.  How well does things 
> like 3D and hardware overlay (as in MPlayer fullscreen with xv without 
> trying to fullscreen over all the screens) work?

AFAIK, you need Matrox binary only driver for that card and I have no
experience with that (both the quag G450 and the Matroxc driver).

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Re: [opensuse] Kernel only see 3 of 4GB

[Philipp Thomas]

On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 20:43:01 +0200, Frank Fiene wrote:

>But OP was about 64bit kernel. So why does my openSUSE-10.2-64bit behave 
>like this? I am wondering that i am the only one with a 
>4GB-Thinkpad(-Z-Series)!

Broken BIOS I'd suggest. The BIOS has to reserve address space below 4
GiB so that 32 bit devices (i.e. PCI) may be addressed. How much
address space is reserved is up to the BIOS. RAM in that range is not
accessable unless the BIOS offers an option to remap that range to
somewhere *above* the 4 GiB theshold. Only then can an OS kernel
access that RAM.

So if the BIOS doesn't have such an option, this 'hidden' memory is
wasted and could just as well be removed.

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Re: [opensuse] Kernel only see 3 of 4GB

[Philipp Thomas]

* Randall R Schulz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20070605 05:45]:

> In openSUSE 10.2 the SMP / non-SMP distinction is gone. Only a generic, 
> SMP-capable kernel is distributed.

Look closer and you'll see that there is still more then one kernel supplied
with 10.2.

> Furthermore, SMP / non-SMP distinction does not relate to physical 
> memory addressing range. That's PAE, which the 10.2 kernel is also 
> capable of utilizing (on 32-bit processors that have the PAE hardware).

You still need kernel-bigsmp to get a kernel that supports PAE.

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Re: [opensuse] Kernel only see 3 of 4GB

[Philipp Thomas]

* Kai Ponte ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20070604 16:16]:

> Turns out, the motherboard on these laptops (which may be similar to
> yours) only can address something like 3.2G.

Folks, how many times does this need to be repeated? The BIOS *has* to
reserve some address space below 4 GiB for I/O puposes, e.g. 32 bit PCI
devices. RAM in that range is not accessable. Therefore some BIOSs offer the
option to remap that RAM to above the 4GB threshold. In order to access this
remapped RAM, you either need a 64bit kernel (if you're using a processor
that supports AMD64/EM64T) or a 32bit kernel with PAE enabled (i.e.
kernel-bigsmp).

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Re: [opensuse] Kernel only see 3 of 4GB

[Philipp Thomas]

* Frank Fiene ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20070604 11:30]:

> Also 32bit Linux kernel should be fine with PAE, not?

Yes, it is. But in order to get a 32bit kernel that supports PAE, you need
to replace the installed kernel-default package by the kernel-bigsmp one.
And even then you might not see the whole 4 GiB, because the BIOS reserves
some address space for PCI devices. 

Philipp

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Re: [opensuse] gsat compile errors

[Philipp Thomas]

On Wed, 23 May 2007 15:43:55 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote:

>Im trying to get gsat compiled on 10.2.
>I get:
>
>make[2]: Entering directory
>`/usr/src/predict-2.2.3/clients/gsat-1.1.0/src'
>gcc  -g -O2 -Wall  -o gsat  main.o support.o interface.o callbacks.o
>comms.o plugins.o db.o prefs.o -L/opt/gnome/lib -lgtk -lgdk -rdynamic
>-lgmodule -lglib -ldl -lXi -lXext -lX11 -lm
>/usr/lib/gcc/i586-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../i586-suse-linux/bin/ld:
>errno: TLS definition in /lib/libc.so.6 section .tbss mismatches non-TLS
>reference in callbacks.o
>/lib/libc.so.6: could not read symbols: Bad value

Better ask on opensuse-programing as there's a much better chance of
getting help there.

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Re: [opensuse] time command

[Philipp Thomas]

On Mon, 21 May 2007 00:13:51 +0900, eshsf wrote:

>What about this? :-)
>
>> \time --help

Sly fox :) Escaping the first letter disables bash's alias mechanism,
so you get the external /usr/bin/time instead of the bash built-in.

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Re: [opensuse] time command

[Philipp Thomas]

On Sat, 19 May 2007 11:15:28 -0600, Carlos F Lange wrote:

>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> which time
>   /usr/bin/time
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> type time
>   time is a shell keyword
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> time --help
>   bash: --help: command not found
>   
>   real0m0.011s
>   user0m0.000s
>   sys 0m0.004s

In bash, the 'which' command is normally an alias for the bash
built-in command type (try 'type -a which').

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Re: [opensuse] The Leopard Shows its Spots

[Philipp Thomas]

On Sun, 13 May 2007 18:40:17 -0800, John Andersen wrote:

>But I have yet to see Mr Frank Nelson weigh in on this. 
>
>And since he claims authority on this subject  I'm sure more denials of 
>Microsoft's true intent are forthcoming

If MSFT had that much *enforceable* patents, you think they wouldn't
have sued yet? This is the old FUD spreading issue that MSFT has been
so good at in the past. I'd say just ignore such statements. Those
that really believe those statements have the worst punishment:
they'll have to keep sticking to Windows :)

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[opensuse] Re: Suitable File Systems

[Philipp Thomas]

On Sun, 13 May 2007 15:54:13 -0800, John Andersen wrote:

>It certainly wasn't done for technical reasons, seems like mostly a cost 
>issue.

It's not true, unless you count maintainability as a cost issue. Plus
there will be an update path from ext3 to ext4, something that
reiserfs can't offer. And besides there being no path from reiserfs3
to reiserfs4, reiserfs4 with its metadata that can be changed by
plugins is a maintenance nightmare.

These *are* technical reasons, at least in my books.

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Re: [opensuse] OT Konsole for M$S

[Philipp Thomas]

On Wed, 9 May 2007 20:59:37 +0200, gceruti wrote:

>Anyone aware of a piece of code on M$S that does the same as Konsole with 
>multiple Shell sessions within the same Window ?.

TCI from JP Software. Trial version can be downloaded here:
http://jpsoft.com/download.htm

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Re: [opensuse] pci-express raid card or pci

[Philipp Thomas]

* Jack Malone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20070508 18:05]:

> I have never done that before, not even sure where to begin at this point.
> How would go about this an using the new kernel at installation time. 

Yea, there's a catch :( You'd need to build a driver update disk and I'm not
sure if that's documented somewhere ...

BTW, I do read the list so I don't need nor want an extra copy as private
mail.

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Re: [opensuse] pci-express raid card or pci

[Philipp Thomas]

* Jack Malone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20070508 15:41]:

> Ok I am giving up on the 3ware 9650 raid card for now til the next version
> of suse comes out.

Why don't you try to build a 10.2 kernel with drivers/scsi/3w-9xxx.c and
taken from the 10.3 Alpha kernel? Or apply the following diff (though I
haven't checked wether it builds and/or works).

Philipp

--- linux-2.6.18/drivers/scsi/3w-9xxx.c 2006-09-20 05:42:06.0 +0200
+++ linux-2.6.21/drivers/scsi/3w-9xxx.c 2007-04-26 05:08:32.0 +0200
@@ -66,6 +66,9 @@
2.26.02.006 - Fix 9550SX pchip reset timeout.
  Add big endian support.
2.26.02.007 - Disable local interrupts during kmap/unmap_atomic().
+   2.26.02.008 - Free irq handler in __twa_shutdown().
+ Serialize reset code.
+ Add support for 9650SE controllers.
 */
 
 #include 
@@ -89,7 +92,7 @@
 #include "3w-9xxx.h"
 
 /* Globals */
-#define TW_DRIVER_VERSION "2.26.02.007"
+#define TW_DRIVER_VERSION "2.26.02.008"
 static TW_Device_Extension *twa_device_extension_list[TW_MAX_SLOT];
 static unsigned int twa_device_extension_count;
 static int twa_major = -1;
@@ -194,7 +197,7 @@ static struct class_device_attribute *tw
 };
 
 /* File operations struct for character device */
-static struct file_operations twa_fops = {
+static const struct file_operations twa_fops = {
.owner  = THIS_MODULE,
.ioctl  = twa_chrdev_ioctl,
.open   = twa_chrdev_open,
@@ -566,9 +569,9 @@ static int twa_check_srl(TW_Device_Exten
goto out;
}
 
-   tw_dev->working_srl = fw_on_ctlr_srl;
-   tw_dev->working_branch = fw_on_ctlr_branch;
-   tw_dev->working_build = fw_on_ctlr_build;
+   tw_dev->tw_compat_info.working_srl = fw_on_ctlr_srl;
+   tw_dev->tw_compat_info.working_branch = fw_on_ctlr_branch;
+   tw_dev->tw_compat_info.working_build = fw_on_ctlr_build;
 
/* Try base mode compatibility */
if (!(init_connect_result & TW_CTLR_FW_COMPATIBLE)) {
@@ -590,10 +593,23 @@ static int twa_check_srl(TW_Device_Exten
}
goto out;
}
-   tw_dev->working_srl = TW_BASE_FW_SRL;
-   tw_dev->working_branch = TW_BASE_FW_BRANCH;
-   tw_dev->working_build = TW_BASE_FW_BUILD;
-   }
+   tw_dev->tw_compat_info.working_srl = TW_BASE_FW_SRL;
+   tw_dev->tw_compat_info.working_branch = TW_BASE_FW_BRANCH;
+   tw_dev->tw_compat_info.working_build = TW_BASE_FW_BUILD;
+   }
+
+   /* Load rest of compatibility struct */
+   strncpy(tw_dev->tw_compat_info.driver_version, TW_DRIVER_VERSION, 
strlen(TW_DRIVER_VERSION));
+   tw_dev->tw_compat_info.driver_srl_high = TW_CURRENT_DRIVER_SRL;
+   tw_dev->tw_compat_info.driver_branch_high = TW_CURRENT_DRIVER_BRANCH;
+   tw_dev->tw_compat_info.driver_build_high = TW_CURRENT_DRIVER_BUILD;
+   tw_dev->tw_compat_info.driver_srl_low = TW_BASE_FW_SRL;
+   tw_dev->tw_compat_info.driver_branch_low = TW_BASE_FW_BRANCH;
+   tw_dev->tw_compat_info.driver_build_low = TW_BASE_FW_BUILD;
+   tw_dev->tw_compat_info.fw_on_ctlr_srl = fw_on_ctlr_srl;
+   tw_dev->tw_compat_info.fw_on_ctlr_branch = fw_on_ctlr_branch;
+   tw_dev->tw_compat_info.fw_on_ctlr_build = fw_on_ctlr_build;
+
retval = 0;
 out:
return retval;
@@ -631,7 +647,7 @@ static int twa_chrdev_ioctl(struct inode
goto out2;
 
/* Check data buffer size */
-   if (driver_command.buffer_length > TW_MAX_SECTORS * 512) {
+   if (driver_command.buffer_length > TW_MAX_SECTORS * 2048) {
retval = TW_IOCTL_ERROR_OS_EINVAL;
goto out2;
}
@@ -680,13 +696,6 @@ static int twa_chrdev_ioctl(struct inode
/* Now wait for command to complete */
timeout = wait_event_timeout(tw_dev->ioctl_wqueue, 
tw_dev->chrdev_request_id == TW_IOCTL_CHRDEV_FREE, timeout);
 
-   /* See if we reset while waiting for the ioctl to complete */
-   if (test_bit(TW_IN_RESET, &tw_dev->flags)) {
-   clear_bit(TW_IN_RESET, &tw_dev->flags);
-   retval = TW_IOCTL_ERROR_OS_ERESTARTSYS;
-   goto out3;
-   }
-
/* We timed out, and didn't get an interrupt */
if (tw_dev->chrdev_request_id != TW_IOCTL_CHRDEV_FREE) {
/* Now we need to reset the board */
@@ -694,11 +703,6 @@ static int twa_chrdev_ioctl(struct inode
   tw_dev->host->host_no, TW_DRIVER, 0xc,
   cmd);
retval = TW_IOCTL_ERROR_OS_EIO;
-   spin_lock_irqsave(tw_dev->host->host_lock, flags);
-   tw_dev->state[request_id] = TW_S_COMPLETED;
-   twa_free_request_id(tw_dev, request_id);
-   tw_dev->posted_r