[opensuse] upgraded to V10 finally
I have finally managed to get my hands on V10 .. the evaluation DVD. Lots of great software as allways. But must say I was disappointed. Someone on the list said that they had severe problems getting the system to run for the first time since V8 .. . Well kinda similiar experience a bit. Been uising SuSE since 8.1 . I bought retail V 8.1,8.2,9.0 9.3 . All them installed booted usually fine. Some have been more unstable than others ((8.1 9.1(the first 2.6 version .. right?)come to my mind) . 8.2 9.3 have prob in my opinion been the best of the ones I know. My lovely Wacom tablet wasnt recognized for the v10 install (no prob in 9.3 or 9.2) . When the system booted for the first time ... it very much stopped after finishing the boot-runlevel changing into runlevel 5. I had the tablet (USB) USB wireless adaptor plugged in. It took it something like several hours to get from end of boot-level to starting HAL after that I lost my nerves ... reset ... take out the USB bits .. it booted fine (there now are all these configuration things being shown on 1st boot .. might have been there akready in 9.3 ... reminded me of installing Ubuntu :-) . Once I got my tablet running it behaved very similiar to new Vector versions ... I guess there have been kernel changes recently .. movement of the pen above the tablet is not noticed .. only when the pen actually touches the tablet surface ... additionally to that the mouse jumps not relativly the same distance as the pen does when I put it at a different corner of the tablet (its okay if I lost ye in my crappy description 8-) ) . So its quite unusable highly irritating. Yet have to explore the rest. Xept for the above things there seem to have been nice improvments everywhere :-) This realease seems a bit rushed I have the feeling as Ive never had problems with the first boot until V10. Sorry 4 all this moaning but just sharing my experience . ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] development speed on list
Maybe its just me .. I might just be blind ... But this list now looks a lot more like : I now have V10 have this prob .. pleaese help ... Than actual things about V10.1 . I havent read anyone mentioning the new developemnt realease really . What is everyones opinion on my moaning ? :-) ___ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] ? Howto setup wireless usb adaptor under 9.3
Cheers 4 the reply .. Ill C what I can find in V10. --- Andy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Winston, Have you tried ndiswrapper? The ndiswrapper package may allow you to use the existing Windows driver under Linux. It looks like several Belkin USB wireless adapters have been reported to work with that package. I am not sure about 9.3 but I know it was included on my 10.0 CDs. Regards, Andy Winston Graeme wrote: Okay Ill use this list to actually also for once ask for help .. . Im running SuSE 9.3 retail version. I installed various wireless tools from the DVD. I'm trying to get my wireless internet connection to work. It is router with internet connection my computer is connected to that (or not in current case xept under Windows) via a Belkin USB wireless adaptor. Can anyone help me ? I had a quick look on LQ looked through this list .. but its either suspiciously complicated or its bluetooth related. SuSE 10 has improved wireless support I heard (still havent actually ever used it .. although on the list :D) .. any ideas ? Any help is highly appreciated as I really want to have internet under Linux to update the system do general surfing etc :-) securely The wireless howto on opensuse is blank BTW. ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] development speed on list
Many Thanx for the Info ... I might just switch to that list instead. Didnt know it xisted. Thanx yeah .. better not mention the F - word .. forum :-) --- Peter Flodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All valid points, except for the fact that development discussions for 10.1 should be on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list :-) So this general list is doomed with exactly the issues you mention. Where is that web forum? (Oops! That has ruined this thread for about 20 posts:-) Pflodo - ___ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Suse 10.0 vs. Opensuse 10.0
: ) I like that idea . --- Peter Flodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14/10/05, Winston Graeme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We really dont need this discussion again. Maybe we should have an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list :-) I think everyone will be happy when we get a webforum, even the people who don't like them, just so we can stop talking about it on the mailing list. Pflodo. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] ? Howto setup wireless usb adaptor under 9.3
Many thanks 4 reply .. Ill give it a try .. a tiny poem :-) --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Freitag, 14. Oktober 2005 03:03 schrieb Winston Graeme: It is router with internet connection my computer is connected to that (or not in current case xept under Windows) via a Belkin USB wireless adaptor. Hi Winston, I think Belkin uses Ralink chipsets. Verify that by doing a lspci. If so, load the modules by hand modprobe rt2400 or rt2500 or rt2570 Look at dmesg for any messages...if one of the modules find the device: fine, try a ifconfig XXX 10.20.30.40 up (substitute XXX by the devicename from the dmesg output) -- mdc - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] ? Howto setup wireless usb adaptor under 9.3
=no, need=no, active=yes Attached to: #100 (Hub) 86: USB 00.0: Unclassified device [Created at manual.278] Unique ID: ADDn.0GdnqWQ3B+2 Parent ID: k4bc.qji2yEO2H98 SysFS ID: /devices/pci:00/:00:02.2/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.0 SysFS BusID: 1-1:1.0 Hardware Class: unknown Model: Belkin Unclassified device Hotplug: USB Vendor: usb 0x050d Belkin Components Device: usb 0x7050 Revision: 2.02 Speed: 0 bps Config Status: cfg=new, avail=no, need=no, active=unknown Attached to: #56 (Hub) 87: USB 00.0: Unclassified device [Created at manual.278] Unique ID: KRJj.0GdnqWQ3B+2 Parent ID: uIhY.qji2yEO2H98 SysFS ID: /devices/pci:00/:00:02.2/usb3/3-1/3-1:1.0 SysFS BusID: 3-1:1.0 Hardware Class: unknown Model: Belkin Unclassified device Hotplug: USB Vendor: usb 0x050d Belkin Components Device: usb 0x7050 Revision: 2.02 Speed: 0 bps Config Status: cfg=no, avail=no, need=no, active=yes Attached to: #100 (Hub) --- Winston Graeme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many thanks 4 reply .. Ill give it a try .. a tiny poem :-) . Hi Winston, I think Belkin uses Ralink chipsets. Verify that by doing a lspci. If so, load the modules by hand modprobe rt2400 or rt2500 or rt2570 Look at dmesg for any messages...if one of the modules find the device: fine, try a ifconfig XXX 10.20.30.40 up (substitute XXX by the devicename from the dmesg output) -- mdc ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] system sound
I thought arts was replaced by this new improved KDE sound system which will also be in KDE 4 ... or what did I miss ? --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in the default install is no arts. This results in kcontrol Just install arts... -- mdc ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Suse 10.0 vs. Opensuse 10.0
We really dont need this discussion again. Fact is we need any user not wanting to join a list or RTFM .. needs a forum for some interactive help. Fact also is that some here hate the idea of a forum .. but that doesnt change the fact that we are still in need of a main big central openSuSE/SuSE/Novell forum. Someone is dealing with this as far as I know .. just have to wait I guess. :-) --- Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marcel Mourguiart wrote: A forum is more flexible, Maybe in some ways, but it usually requires you to log on - which doesn't spell flexible to me. you can have postit with more commons questions or what ever you want and i think is easier to search. easier than googling? Just in case - I _am_ thoroughly opposed to the use of webforums, but I am also fully prepared to listen to anyone with a _solid_ argument for webforums. (which I think should be called webfora). /Per Jessen, Zürich ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Official OpenSuse Forum?
So the issue is still around still hasnt been solved .. ha - what a surprise. But I agree with below opinion .. one big forum is better than many small ones where questions answers rescources are scattered all over the web ... e.g. linuxquestions.org wouldnt be as great (my opinion) if each forum had its own website .. there wouldnt be any communication coordination between things. Fact is a wiki is not a mailinglist is not a forum. There are reasons for each to xist ... but of course we have to try to not duplicate efforts in order to make it as painless as possible ... blah blah blah .. . --- Peter Flodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/10/05, Pascal Bleser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would be like showing them the finger in the middle of your hand. We should embrace and extend, not replace or duplicate. . there is an argument that an openSUSE web forum is justified You have to break some eggs to make an omelette. A single openSUSE forum, will be a bigger gain, than the possible loss of several existing and fragmented SUSE forums. ... you may not agree... :-) - GMail's spell checker has penises as a suggested correction for openSUSE...it must be talking about the mailing list :-) ___ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Hi all
Interesting idea but Windows is not Linux .. but then this could also work . People know Windows know people to help them if they have problems .. Windows is fast .. reliable (XP with firewall is absolutly fine).. is supported so why switch .. if it aint broke why try to fix it .. by going into an unknown complicated (yes its not complicated .. but I wont go through all these things ... this will not be a flaming war) terretory. So at the moment .. people switch to Linux when they are really sick of Windows... they need to .. are in contact with Linux cause of work there know it CAN (can not does ... driver probs et cetera) work ... are very curious ... are server .. geeks .. have a business interest in it ... have a Linux system which is properly supported (as in propiatry proper support where the end-user does not have to be a geek or computer nut(not trying to offend anyone)) . But for the Joe - Jimmy - Hans - or whateva average user it doesnt yet make enough sense to switch . With more more businesses switching their staff to Linux .. driver-providers might just properly start supporting Linux as well (hopefully the current Linux infrastructure is making this as simple as possible to do) making it easier for X - average to switch. Hiding system/admin entyys in menus is a desktop environment thing ... I think GNOME has something coming along that line .. but hiding inappropiare or inaccesible items should be done as much as possible oviously as long as it makes sense. Linux is an open-source product .. programs change all the time ... which is not the case with Windows. On a Linux desktop the 3rd party or whateva its called software ... such as Real-Player a Photoshop install etc ... is very limited making it easier for Distros to constantly come up with new versions ... nobody needs to figure out strange hacks to allow some strange program to still run when the OS is updated (okay not completly true .. my knowledge is quite limited ) .. with Redhat Server or SLES the big products are certified for these OSes ... cause they guarantee a certain standard etc. over a certain time. Fact is open-source doesnt stop changing developing according to set dates deadlines ... its a million times easier in that way for Microsoft ... but they on the other hand must manage to get all the designed for XP progs to work ... there will allways be a new version of XYZ - program in the open-source community. I dont think the answer neccessarily can be components ... actually the KLICK thing could if everybody stands behind that be very very powerful influencial ... as far as I get it ... each package (just like OSX) is completly in its own world has very few (hopefully) dependencies can also then in itself be very optimised ... click run infrastructure (might add more overhead than neccessary ?) for all the big GUI progs the distro specific stuff would then be the base system system utilities ... I quite like the idea ... very similiar then to Windows where there is the base system everything els eis extra . 3rd parties could then just provide such packages to the end-user . A lot of the sytem could be like building blocks which could be combined to give different configurations (server .. desktop .. workstationetc) ... Flexible predictable hopefully. Actually I just reread what U wrote .. yeah Im suggesting very much the same I think ... there would have to be someone or something which would control the Slick Run infrastructure. Like the kernel development but in this case for the desktop:-) . Full-Stop I ve written too much . Thanx for reading if ye made it this far . C.C.Chakkaradeep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, . After using Linux for some 2 years, and trying Linux From Scratch(LFS)/Customizing Knoppix,Slackware/Gentoo and other small stuffs, what i found is, there is no common STANDARDS followed except for the filesystem directory hierarchy. You can even find each distribution having its own directory structure nowadays.Each one is having their own packages. .. First and foremost, why SuSE??...well, i think SuSE has given importance in GUI and equally comparable with Microsoft Windows for GUI.. PMS === here i think RPM/Debian are becoming the common standard in the linux industry and whereever u go, u will find your package either in RPM/Debian.But wait?..is there a SINGLE CLICK install??...yeah i have read about the Klick which SuSE is trying out.Thats an amazing thing. Package everything as components (Componentized Linux - http://componentizedlinux.org). So whatever u consider that forms the base system (with dependencies),package it and then give applications as separate compenents, so now if u want to un-install the package(here Component), it is easy!and just think over...thats what Windows is doing!...So here the dependency problem might
Re: [opensuse] AppArmor
Cheers for the info : - ) Dan Elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I haven't used the lite version but I've used the full version quite a bit and know the dev team around it pretty well. The fullversion has a full YaST module for managing everything if you like the gui or great cli utilities. Profiling applications is trivial compared to trying to do it with SELinux which is the biggest strength. I can profile a server in a few hours with AppArmor where it would take a week with SELinux. It's made by the same devs who worked with the NSA on the LSM (http://lsm.immunix.org/) so they know what they're doing. The cool factor is pretty nice when you can show people a firefox browser than works fine but is profiled such that it can't read /etc/passwd or other sensitive information. Giving people root access via ssh is fun as well because you can profile sshd such that they can only execute 1 or 2 commands and never get anywhere else. I don't know what the difference between the full and lite version will be but it's a great tool for locking down a Linux box. Cheers, Dan - To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre.
Re: [opensuse] Automatic detection and configuration of WIFI connections?
Wont be long I guess till something comes out off SuSE as they seem to be very busy thinking of new cool useful stuff. U are actually running an alpha release on your laptop ... scarry . :-) Miles Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a group of SUSE programmers focused on making WIFI connection management work as well as Apple's OS/X? One thing OS/X does, that I really like, is popup a dialog when I have lost my connection and new hubs are detected. I know that Linux has to contend with more hardware capability variations than Macs do. For example, some wireless hardware doesn't support scanning, some doesn't support WPA and/or WPA2, etc. Still, I tried to get Yast2 to configure a connection in an internet cafe the other day and it just would not configure the connection. I would get associated, but no DHCP server would be found. I guess it might have been a glitch in the cafe's connection, but there were other people connected around me. In my case, I am running OpenSUSE 10.1 alpha1 on a Centrino-based laptop (ipw2200). Thanks! Miles - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre.
Re: [opensuse] I take it people know about the hacking of the web page?
Ohhh .. interesting ...opensuse targeted due to being an open project .. but Iran not being allowwed nuclear power ? houghi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Darn. It is just after midnight on a saturday night, so I hope they can solve this fast. houghi - How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos
Re: [opensuse] Introduction and SuSEguide idea
On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 02:16:59PM +0200, Kenneth Aar wrote: Matt Downs wrote: I think it would be very helpful if SuSE had something as straightforward as the ubuntuguide...a SuSEguide. The first part would help users set up YaST with extra repos (like ... . This reminds me of me suggesting to improve the start-up dialogue (the first-boot thing). People got interested but then it disappearded in the depths of the mailing-list. Does anyone know how to call up this first-boot info to new user thing ? ___ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Usage installation choices ?
desktop - memory - usage choices I think I suggested this before but Ill do again. What about when installing having the choices of more predefined setups i.e. e.g. low-memory use desktop (could be windowmaker with all the leight apps too furfill the full user requirements) ... with all the packages available on the DVD ... having all the needed lightweight packages to create a complete lightweight desktop with apps shouldnt be too difficult ? ___ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] New things take-up .... .?.
Is there anywhere a place where we can see what ideas AND/OR new applications have been taken up/are being looked at by SuSE Novell ? ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Forum mailinglists ?
Sorry to bring this up again ... but what happened to the forum ? The openSUSE realease really is not very far away ! Maybe we could get on sites like linuxquestions.org an opensuse entry so that people wont get confused by the difference in name etc. ? A lot of posts recently on this list are simply end-user problems from people who are trying out openSuSE (thanx 4 those who are so interested) but this list is for development mostly ? This list seems somehow like the only official opensuse help rescource. We need more lists a forum urgently IMO. Sorry for moaning but we can't just close our eyes hope it'll just work out. Or maybe just a bit on thw wiki about where to get help. Enough moaning from me and apologies thanx to those already dealing with these issues. ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] special purpose kernels configurations
An idea partially based on previous things such as SUPER: Maybe somewhere in the installation have the choice as to optimise/configure the system as to be a : Server-oriented system setup parameters Desktop oriented system parameters Music/Video - editing oriented system setup parameters Thing is with one kernel one couldnt really get the best experience/performance for all possible uses. The high throughout put server system wont be the best possible low latency desktop media experience .. ehh system. Or am I just dreamimg things up ? :-) ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] What's happening to X at SuSE/Novell ?
A while ago someone at Novell/SuSE said that the next version of SuSE (i.e. 10) would have a great new graphics system with cool things possible which would be comparable to OSX Longhorn(Vista) (or maybe even better) as far as I remember. What's happening to X @ SuSE/Novell ? Happened to this cool X - thing ? Anyone know? ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] About yast2, apt, yum, redcarpet
I dont know what Novell/SuSE policies on updating SLES with untested external packages is but I doubt they'd like users doing that then saying SLES crashes now that the whole system has been updated to the latest openSuSE beta realease kernel. Okay Im overdoing it .. but I very much doubt it. or does Redhat have something along that line for Redhat Advanced Server ? --- Cameron Seader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be nice to see the possability of YUM for SLES. - ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] rlocate
Sounds like an improvement to me compared to slocate as long as it can be disabled. --- Richard Bos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is rlocate something to be included in a newer suse version? rlocate, by Rasto Levrinc, is based on slocate, which is an improvement on traditional locate, rlocate updates its path database in real-time by using a kernel module that intercepts all paths modifications and a daemon that logs those operations on a differences file. The combination of the full path database with the difference file gives you instant updated information on the filesystem. -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless - ___ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 1 CD install ready to test
Knoppix get a huge system on a CD with compression . I dont know how it works .. but hopefully its an option ? --- houghi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steal ideas from the competition. ;-) Damn Small Linux goes on 50 MB. OK, they don't have KDE. Do you have a list of what is now on the CD, without needing to download the CD? I think ARCHIVES.gz does tell that. -- houghi ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Download issues for upcoming beta4
Yeah ... the question is : Is a bittorrent only realease at first still considered an on schedule realease then fully synced servers can serve the iso's later. Is it rude to say that people have to use BT for the first day or two ? --- Alexander Grujic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi List, wouldn't it maybe help to at first only release the isos via bittorrent and add the ftp servers a few days later? That way all the I need the new version NOW people wouldn't rush the ftp servers, bittorrent would serv up faster (those people usually have hight bandwiths) and those people that have a bit more patience can download conveniently from the ftp servers at a later point. The mirrors would have a bit more time to sync and especially gwdg wouldn't suffer so much from the first onslaught... Just an Idea, Alexander ___ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] A SuSE-Tour on first-boot ?
--- Daniel Secareanu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This whole discussion is a waste of mailing list resources... I suggest we stop it since it has no relevance to opensuse... Daniel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Absolutly right. Let's grow up a bit care less about top or bottom - posting or such. Reg.: SuSE-Tour I dont think enhancing or changing the info during install is so important. Users cant go back to that look at some advice given again .. well xcept if they reinstall. And people might be tempted to do something more useful than stare at the installation. And BTW during my 9.3 (purchased) installation this slide-presentation didn't work at all ... it allways showed the same picture. And we have far greater possibilities if it is something on a running system - like internet links,video et c. So I dont see the install-show as an option. Simply enhancing the Current-Intro tour there is when booting up the system for the first time seems more like it. And the person installing the system might not be the person using the system. ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
