[opensuse] test of filters
Ignore this message. i am just trying to put some filters on my incoming. sw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] test of filters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2007-12-12 at 18:29 -0800, StephenW wrote: Ignore this message. i am just trying to put some filters on my incoming. sw Please, use the test list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHYJxItTMYHG2NR9URAr+ZAJ9lYh54fjomVGyf5MmgJqv7/U//XACfVLjo 59tzeyu8Bf0eXuk8xRqrGsQ= =aKuz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] test of filters
- Original Message From: Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: OS-en opensuse@opensuse.org Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 9:43:18 PM Subject: Re: [opensuse] test of filters -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2007-12-12 at 18:29 -0800, StephenW wrote: Ignore this message. i am just trying to put some filters on my incoming. sw Please, use the test list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. Mea Culpa and my apologies I did not know that existed. I shall continue to try and figure out filters by using that. Thank you again. StephenW -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] test - Success!
Take this crap offlist please, no one wants to read either of your distorted views of reality. Cheers Todd Systems Administrator - Soho VFX - Visual Effects Studio 99 Atlantic Avenue, Suite 303 Toronto, Ontario, M6K 3J8 (416) 516-7863 http://www.sohovfx.com - On Dec 6, 2007, at 12:28 AM, Aaron Kulkis wrote: Ben Kevan wrote: On Wednesday 05 December 2007 08:27:39 am Aaron Kulkis wrote: test Hopefully your not in Iran testing Nucular bombs like President Bush believes Anyone who is both sane, and emotionally strong enough to avoid playing like an ostrich with his head in the sand will regard Iran with suspicion until they 1) quit trying to enrich uranium 2) quit broadcasting rhetoric about destroying all nations which do not convert to Islam and 3) quit providing, training, weapons, and refuge to every radical Islamic terrorist organization on the planet. Until that day, anyone who regards the Iranian government as benign is whistling in the dark. There's a reason that both the French and the Germans replaced their anti-Bush heads of state the last time they had the opportunity to do so. If your just testing a post to the Mailing List then it was successful. It turns out my mail service (hotpop.com) was acting flaky servers down or something. Ben -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] test - Success!
On Thu 06 December 07 09:37, M. Todd Smith wrote: Take this crap offlist please, no one wants to read either of your distorted views of reality. You mean like you: Ostrich - Head - sand, and *adding* to the OT crap? -- There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all. Theodore Roosevelt -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] test
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Re: [opensuse] test - Success!
On Wednesday 05 December 2007 08:27:39 am Aaron Kulkis wrote: test Hopefully your not in Iran testing Nucular bombs like President Bush believes If your just testing a post to the Mailing List then it was successful. Ben -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Test
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Re: [opensuse] Test
Please test somewhere else. On Nov 9, 2007 2:05 PM, Test [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a test -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Test
On Friday 09 November 2007 13:05, Test wrote: This is a test Test failed, pigfu... ...oh, wait. This isn't alt.2600, huh? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] test
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Re: [opensuse] test
Jose wrote: test Oh NO!!! I forgot to study!!! ;-) -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] test
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * James Knott [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10-16-07 10:35]: Jose wrote: test Oh NO!!! I forgot to study!!! ;-) sok, open-book - -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn4472 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHFMzUClSjbQz1U5oRAv6PAJ9OE8KPWIpqlenNjFD/W8Y4LcfcZQCaA2nj dL8p9FyACW7ROfQ5E242FEI= =P5B/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] test
Jose wrote: test Oh NO!!! I forgot to study!!! ;-) -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org Damn them Suprise Test.. Oh, and Jose.. be sure to Bottom Post.. We don't need another 30 thread issue about that :o) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] test
Jose wrote: test Failed! Syntax error: expected ';' in line 1. ;o) Johnny :o) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] test
On Oct 16 2007 17:33, Johnny Ernst Nielsen wrote: Jose wrote: test Failed! Syntax error: expected ';' in line 1. 500 Rejected. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] test
On Tuesday 16 October 2007 10:09:40 am Ben Kevan wrote: Jose wrote: test Oh NO!!! I forgot to study!!! ;-) -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org Damn them Suprise Test.. Oh, and Jose.. be sure to Bottom Post.. We don't need another 30 thread issue about that :o) We can make one about 'test' ;-) -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] test
test don't laugh too much, the mailing list behavior is sometime curious. * hitting reply send the mail privately, as everybody knows, but if you make this by mistake, you may be surprised not to see your mail on the list * sometime the feature is even more hiden. I had to unsubscribe then re-subscribe to see my mails on the list recently * very recently, the mailing list stopped for half a day, may be serveur failure, may be something only relevant for me :-) and for such things, only a test on the very list can be seen as a clue (I didn't do that, but was pretty near to do :-)) jdd (and I failed this one too, sorry, Johnny) -- http://www.dodin.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] test
On Oct 16 2007 18:55, jdd wrote: * very recently, the mailing list stopped for half a day, may be serveur failure, may be something only relevant for me :-) Guru Meditation... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] test
Thank you all for your fun replies, I had to send this message due to another mail list I am subscribe it's not posting my emails and wasn't sure if it was my account Regards, Jose Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Oct 16 2007 18:55, jdd wrote: * very recently, the mailing list stopped for half a day, may be serveur failure, may be something only relevant for me :-) Guru Meditation... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] test
Jose wrote: Thank you all for your fun replies, I had to send this message due to another mail list I am subscribe it's not posting my emails and wasn't sure if it was my account Regards, Jose Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Oct 16 2007 18:55, jdd wrote: * very recently, the mailing list stopped for half a day, may be serveur failure, may be something only relevant for me :-) Guru Meditation... Not sure, but I think he just flunked. Will need a ruling from Patrick on that. :-) Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] test
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * TRBishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10-16-07 16:06]: Not sure, but I think he just flunked. Will need a ruling from Patrick on that. :-) You will have to be more specific. I resemble that remark, but there are at least four present? ps, flunk he DID. - -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn4472 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHFSLUClSjbQz1U5oRAkGjAJsEtn4cghEV9AqWa012TMh3GdwbCACeMT01 OoaEBXXNzSpV5WEmed0pHDo= =bXVg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] test
Patrick Shanahan wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * TRBishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10-16-07 16:06]: Not sure, but I think he just flunked. Will need a ruling from Patrick on that. :-) You will have to be more specific. I resemble that remark, but there are at least four present? ps, flunk he DID. - -- LOL. I thought so. You go, Teach! :-) Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] test for good /dev/dsp (sound device)
A script I have uses play in a script. If /dev/dsp (or dsp0) is locked up for some reason (generally after viewing a video on youtube), then play fails and the rest of the script horks. The error returned says sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': No such device. Sometimes I'll get a device busy error. Does anyone know a way to test /dev/dsp (in advance of this failure) so that the play error can be avoided? tnx -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] test for good /dev/dsp (sound device)
* ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-18-07 07:23]: A script I have uses play in a script. If /dev/dsp (or dsp0) is locked up for some reason (generally after viewing a video on youtube), then play fails and the rest of the script horks. The error returned says sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': No such device. Sometimes I'll get a device busy error. Does anyone know a way to test /dev/dsp (in advance of this failure) so that the play error can be avoided? You might try lsof, man lsof and lsof /dev/dsp -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] test for good /dev/dsp (sound device)
On 08/18/2007 07:32 AM somebody named Patrick Shanahan wrote: * ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-18-07 07:23]: A script I have uses play in a script. If /dev/dsp (or dsp0) is locked up for some reason (generally after viewing a video on youtube), then play fails and the rest of the script horks. The error returned says sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': No such device. Sometimes I'll get a device busy error. Does anyone know a way to test /dev/dsp (in advance of this failure) so that the play error can be avoided? You might try lsof, man lsof and lsof /dev/dsp Yeah, that's a good command and would probably give good info if the device were busy, but lsof /dev/dsp returns nothing when there's No such device... which makes sense. Since posting my previous (original) email, I discovered that the audio alarm (to signal an appointment) on Korganizer works. If that works, why doesn't play? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Test
This is being sent via Konqueror. I have been unable to post replies to this list so this is a test using Linux only. Please ignore. If this gets denied, I will have to choice but to unsub. as I can't post questions nor ask for help --Keith -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Test
On Thursday 01 March 2007 17:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If this gets denied, I will have to choice but to unsub. as I can't post questions nor ask for help Congratulations... post away! -- Kind regards, M Harris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Test-Pls ignore
* Charles R. Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-04-07 01:30]: Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by mlmmj List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Owner: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailinglist: opensuse-test provided for your information and use (Please). -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Test-Pls ignore
On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 09:32:06 -0500, Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] took time to say the following: (^_^)* Charles R. Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-04-07 01:30]: (^_^) (^_^) (^_^)Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by mlmmj (^_^)List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (^_^)List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (^_^)List-Owner: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (^_^)List-Subscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (^_^)List-Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (^_^)X-Mailinglist: opensuse-test (^_^) (^_^) (^_^)provided for your information and use (Please). People do (insert favprite word here) about the smallest things these days. Jeez! See how many people actually saved themselves the needless exertion of energy by actually ignoring it? Let me go get my coffee. I sure hope that made you feel so much better. Oh, by the way, a simple note offlist probably would have been better received instead of showing the arrogance and the see I told him didn't I? Look at me I'm a BIG man! Also, I didn't know there was those addresses, they weren't included in the commands available for opensuse@opensuse.org (just for YOUR information) Too many people spend money they haven't earned to buy things they don't want, to impress people they don't like. -Will Rogers -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Test-Pls ignore
* Charles R. Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-04-07 11:50]: [...] Oh, by the way, a simple note offlist probably would have been better received instead of showing the arrogance and the see I told him didn't I? Look at me I'm a BIG man! Also, I didn't know there was those addresses, they weren't included in the commands available for opensuse@opensuse.org (just for YOUR information) I see that you follow your own advice :^) hope your coffee was not as hot as your temper -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Test-Pls ignore
On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 11:57:26 -0500, Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] took time to say the following: (^_^)* Charles R. Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-04-07 11:50]: (^_^) [...] (^_^) Oh, by the way, a simple note offlist probably would have been better (^_^) received instead of showing the arrogance and the see I told him (^_^) didn't I? Look at me I'm a BIG man! Also, I didn't know there was (^_^) those addresses, they weren't included in the commands available for (^_^) opensuse@opensuse.org (just for YOUR information) (^_^) (^_^)I see that you follow your own advice :^) (^_^) (^_^)hope your coffee was not as hot as your temper (^_^)-- (^_^)Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 You're right, it (my reply) should have been take offlist. Granted I only got about two hours of sleep (if that) after an all nighter trying to create a bartpe bootcd, and downloading and installing 65 updates 10.2, and trying to figure out to install a simple program, still no excuse. So I do apologize for my (latest) outburst. Why are there so many different installation technics? rpm, .run, tar.gz, .bin. I mean right there on the website it tells you how to do it, followed the commands exactly, and it (shell program) says that the file/directory doesn't exist. Maybe (probably) I'm missing something here. if the program is install-realplayer10gold.bin for instance, The file is in /home/(username), I'm in the directory /home/(username), do a dir and the file is there, I issue the command(s) that is/are listed on the website for this program, what else am I suppose to be doing? I su'd because that is required to install a program. hmmm? Too many people spend money they haven't earned to buy things they don't want, to impress people they don't like. -Will Rogers -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Test-Pls ignore
* Charles R. Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-04-07 12:19]: [...] Why are there so many different installation technics? rpm, .run, tar.gz, .bin. different strokes for different distros... There are MANY different distributions who think that their way is better. I mean right there on the website it tells you how to do it, followed the commands exactly, and it (shell program) says that the file/directory doesn't exist. Maybe (probably) I'm missing something here. Definitely. The first is to use rpms when using an rpm based system which openSUSE is (unless you *really* know what you are doing). if the program is install-realplayer10gold.bin for instance, The file is in /home/(username), I'm in the directory /home/(username), do a dir and the file is there, I issue the command(s) that is/are listed on the website for this program, what else am I suppose to be doing? You are supposed to be using the RealPlayer rpm provided on your openSUSE dvd/cd or from one of the openSUSE repositories. I su'd because that is required to install a program. hmmm? usually. -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Test-Pls ignore
On Sunday 04 February 2007 10:11, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Charles R. Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-04-07 12:19]: [...] Why are there so many different installation technics? rpm, .run, tar.gz, .bin. different strokes for different distros... There are MANY different distributions who think that their way is better. I mean right there on the website it tells you how to do it, followed the commands exactly, and it (shell program) says that the file/directory doesn't exist. Maybe (probably) I'm missing something here. Definitely. The first is to use rpms when using an rpm based system which openSUSE is (unless you *really* know what you are doing). So I should look to see if the file(s) are rpm first? If my memory serves me correct, I remember one time it (the distro that was installed at the time) gave me the choice to install using one of the system's programs. I'm not certain if it was SuSe though. if the program is install-realplayer10gold.bin for instance, The file is in /home/(username), I'm in the directory /home/(username), do a dir and the file is there, I issue the command(s) that is/are listed on the website for this program, what else am I suppose to be doing? You are supposed to be using the RealPlayer rpm provided on your openSUSE dvd/cd or from one of the openSUSE repositories. I was using Real Player as an example, but that's good info to know. I wanted to try out Thunderbird but couldn't get it to install. So I'm using KMail at this time, which is serving the main purpose. I did manage to install the ati driver package though. The scrolling is better, but not where it should be, so I might still have some tweaking to do somewhere. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Test-Pls ignore
charles buchanan wrote: I wanted to try out Thunderbird but couldn't get it to install. So I'm using KMail at this time, which is serving the main purpose. I did manage to install the ati driver package though. The scrolling is better, but not where it should be, so I might still have some tweaking to do somewhere. Thunderbird is on your install disk. Also on most of the install repos. -- (o:]*HUGGLES*[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: I LOVE YOU Pass them on! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Test-Pls ignore
On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 13:16:48 -0600, Billie Erin Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] took time to say the following: (^_^)charles buchanan wrote: (^_^) I wanted to try out Thunderbird but couldn't get it to install. So I'm using KMail at (^_^) this time, which is serving the main purpose. I did manage to install the ati (^_^) driver package though. The scrolling is better, but not where it should be, (^_^) so I might still have some tweaking to do somewhere. (^_^)Thunderbird is on your install disk. Also on most of the install repos. (^_^) (^_^)-- (^_^) (^_^)(o:]*HUGGLES*[:o) (^_^)Billie Walsh Hmm? Have to check that out. I remember seeing Firefox during the install, but not TB. Thanks! Too many people spend money they haven't earned to buy things they don't want, to impress people they don't like. -Will Rogers -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Test-Pls ignore
Too many people spend money they haven't earned to buy things they don't want, to impress people they don't like. -Will Rogers -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] TEST Am I really on this list?
On Sun, 2007-01-14 at 09:21 +0100, Mike wrote: On Sunday 14 January 2007 03:13, Tom Patton wrote: On Sun, 2007-01-14 at 01:45 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: Could be greylisting. this is basically a spam fighter. BINGO, Mike. Got a boilerplate reply on the virtues of greylisting and he closed the ticket! To Bo: I didn't mean for my suggestion (to you on possibly why you weren't seeing your posts) to divert this thread. Hope you are doing ok. Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] TEST Am I really on this list?
On Sunday 14 January 2007 03:13, Tom Patton wrote: On Sun, 2007-01-14 at 01:45 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: That's the exit hop from suse to your isp, that took 18 minutes. Too much. The only one that can tell what happened is a suse sysadmin by looking at his logs. That's correct, Carlos. According to Henne, the smtproutes.com server is returning status=deferred, and suse re-sends the email after 20 minutes. Why the second attempt makes it is a mystery...at least to me! Could be greylisting. this is basically a spam fighter. The first message is deferred. Spam will only send once. A real mailer will resend and that one goes through.. Mike -- Powered by SuSE 10.0 Kernel 2.6.13 X86_64 KDE 3.4 Kmail 1.8 9:19am up 11 days 16:20, 4 users, load average: 2.22, 2.33, 2.36 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] TEST Am I really on this list?
On Sunday 14 January 2007 08:41, david rankin wrote: Tom in NM Nope Tom, my bet is that it is an I D ten T error code. Seen it many times. Seems to plague the technical community. It is obvious though. Just substitute the number 10 for the word ten in the foregoing quote and have a close look at the error code. It will speak volumes. I have falled victim to it a number of times over the years. Much more so after having children (3 to be exact). Let me know it that solves the problem. P.S. See you in Taos on the 5th... I do not get it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] TEST Am I really on this list?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2007-01-14 at 09:21 +0100, Mike wrote: That's the exit hop from suse to your isp, that took 18 minutes. Too much. The only one that can tell what happened is a suse sysadmin by looking at his logs. That's correct, Carlos. According to Henne, the smtproutes.com server is returning status=deferred, and suse re-sends the email after 20 minutes. Why the second attempt makes it is a mystery...at least to me! Could be greylisting. this is basically a spam fighter. The first message is deferred. Spam will only send once. A real mailer will resend and that one goes through.. I was thinking of that. Perhaps... the from address is different for every message from the list, could that be affecting? But the domain is always the same. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFqhT7tTMYHG2NR9URAmh2AKCXkdTyUVQk2CNOWqDG48Wx8VTzLACfRa3S vYO9HrFny5y/LzdWIgTM1+4= =eGOF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] TEST Am I really on this list?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2007-01-14 at 01:41 -0600, david rankin wrote: Nope Tom, my bet is that it is an I D ten T error code. Seen it many times. Seems to plague the technical community. It is obvious though. Just substitute the number 10 for the word ten in the foregoing quote and have a close look at the error code. It will speak volumes. I have falled victim to it a number of times over the years. Much more so after having children (3 to be exact). I don't understand a word. :-? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFqhUwtTMYHG2NR9URAq/WAJ9xPkGMQO/egjSmFbJzCe9S9cYTDgCfeZ3r XdmxhoNpntihfV6KT4gdRI8= =Hm8t -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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It forms the word I D 10 T ;-) But the other posts about grey listing certainly makes sense, and then makes the above error code extremely accurate! The micro-net service agent has upped the ticket to their sysadmin... Tom in NM On Sun, 2007-01-14 at 12:34 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2007-01-14 at 01:41 -0600, david rankin wrote: Nope Tom, my bet is that it is an I D ten T error code. Seen it many times. Seems to plague the technical community. It is obvious though. Just substitute the number 10 for the word ten in the foregoing quote and have a close look at the error code. It will speak volumes. I have falled victim to it a number of times over the years. Much more so after having children (3 to be exact). I don't understand a word. :-? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFqhUwtTMYHG2NR9URAq/WAJ9xPkGMQO/egjSmFbJzCe9S9cYTDgCfeZ3r XdmxhoNpntihfV6KT4gdRI8= =Hm8t -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Are you supposed to see your own postings in the mail? Bo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-01-13 at 12:23 +0100, Bo wrote: Are you supposed to see your own postings in the mail? Yes, but some people don't. For example, those posting through gmail. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFqMD+tTMYHG2NR9URAixYAKCBwaOgCquA1o71FE3M19sGXBmBQgCglaJ+ KDEAQgZ/YjOfV3fa5IZKlbY= =eLRz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sat, 2007-01-13 at 12:22 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-01-13 at 12:23 +0100, Bo wrote: Are you supposed to see your own postings in the mail? Yes, but some people don't. For example, those posting through gmail. Or they may just be late like mine...sometimes up to an hour before I see my posts...but at least 15 minutes. Probably the huge volume on this forum. -- Tom in NM SuSE 9.3/Evolution 7:03am up 11:21, 2 users, load average: 0.01, 0.09, 0.12 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sat, 2007-01-13 at 07:04 -0700, Tom Patton wrote: On Sat, 2007-01-13 at 12:22 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Or they may just be late like mine...sometimes up to an hour before I see my posts...but at least 15 minutes. Probably the huge volume on this forum. 21 minutes for that one... Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-01-13 at 07:25 -0700, Tom Patton wrote: Or they may just be late like mine...sometimes up to an hour before I see my posts...but at least 15 minutes. Probably the huge volume on this forum. 21 minutes for that one... Mmmm... no, you have a problem. I got it instantly. See: You posted at:07:25:22 -0700(your clock is fast) Your provider got it at: 06:22:50 -0800 (PST) Suse got it at: 15:22:52 +0100 (CET) My provider got it at:15:23:16 +0100 I polled for it at: 15:30:35 +0100 So, no, delays are local to you. Check your own headers to see where is the stoppage ;-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFqQDEtTMYHG2NR9URAm7XAJ9gA87+A3JHsaYqNSQqxpqYHTzuKwCfV2K+ zv3nb2TnDrFm5XYJDdEIA5Q= =t8d4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sat, 2007-01-13 at 16:54 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-01-13 at 07:25 -0700, Tom Patton wrote: Or they may just be late like mine...sometimes up to an hour before I see my posts...but at least 15 minutes. Probably the huge volume on this forum. 21 minutes for that one... Mmmm... no, you have a problem. I got it instantly. See: You posted at:07:25:22 -0700(your clock is fast) Your provider got it at: 06:22:50 -0800 (PST) Suse got it at: 15:22:52 +0100 (CET) My provider got it at:15:23:16 +0100 I polled for it at: 15:30:35 +0100 So, no, delays are local to you. Check your own headers to see where is the stoppage ;-) Looks like it spent 18minutes between the following stages... Received: from lists4.suse.de ([195.135.221.135]) by k008.smtproutes.com ([192.168.2.134]) with ESMTP via TCP; 13 Jan 2007 14:20:37 - Received: from lists4.suse.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists4.suse.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 5E17E7BE5E; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 14:02:12 + (GMT) and then another server hop on to me in a few seconds...I posted it at 07:02. I've never thought much about it, until the other guy was wondering why he wasn't seeing his posts. Tom (not using NTP) in NM ;-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-01-13 at 09:46 -0700, Tom Patton wrote: So, no, delays are local to you. Check your own headers to see where is the stoppage ;-) Looks like it spent 18minutes between the following stages... Received: from lists4.suse.de ([195.135.221.135]) by k008.smtproutes.com ([192.168.2.134]) with ESMTP via TCP; 13 Jan 2007 14:20:37 - Received: from lists4.suse.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists4.suse.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 5E17E7BE5E; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 14:02:12 + (GMT) That's the exit hop from suse to your isp, that took 18 minutes. Too much. The only one that can tell what happened is a suse sysadmin by looking at his logs. Tom (not using NTP) in NM ;-) :-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFqX0gtTMYHG2NR9URArONAKCDaPbMU2l3QtoCwwMBpKYYacm0ZQCfYkBT uQwwcBFZjMDYKu0ERCfUDhA= =cxaQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sun, 2007-01-14 at 01:45 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 That's the exit hop from suse to your isp, that took 18 minutes. Too much. The only one that can tell what happened is a suse sysadmin by looking at his logs. That's correct, Carlos. According to Henne, the smtproutes.com server is returning status=deferred, and suse re-sends the email after 20 minutes. Why the second attempt makes it is a mystery...at least to me! I've a querie into my ISP to figure out why...and also why it is only happening to mail from suse... I get other forums, and even a direct email from Henne in mere seconds. Perhaps they have a sluggish server in the rack. Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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- Original Message - From: Tom Patton [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, 2007-01-14 at 01:45 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 That's the exit hop from suse to your isp, that took 18 minutes. Too much. The only one that can tell what happened is a suse sysadmin by looking at his logs. That's correct, Carlos. According to Henne, the smtproutes.com server is returning status=deferred, and suse re-sends the email after 20 minutes. Why the second attempt makes it is a mystery...at least to me! I've a querie into my ISP to figure out why...and also why it is only happening to mail from suse... I get other forums, and even a direct email from Henne in mere seconds. Perhaps they have a sluggish server in the rack. Tom in NM Nope Tom, my bet is that it is an I D ten T error code. Seen it many times. Seems to plague the technical community. It is obvious though. Just substitute the number 10 for the word ten in the foregoing quote and have a close look at the error code. It will speak volumes. I have falled victim to it a number of times over the years. Much more so after having children (3 to be exact). Let me know it that solves the problem. P.S. See you in Taos on the 5th... -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax www.rankinlawfirm.com -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Geir A. Myrestrand wrote: Sergey Mkrtchyan wrote: I send and receive lots of e-mails which contain equations. I just prepare them using any equation editor and paste them as pictures in my HTML e-mail. So I raise my both hands ;) Note that you can send images without using HTML. Just make references to the attached images if necessary. There are also document formats you can use for this that will serve your content better. I've tried... that is too boring, imagine several pages long calculations, and you have to explain in your mail why on the last page in the last line there should be -, instead of +. You have to refer form one image to another and then explain how these both interfere with your third image. Read this, then correct your signature: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signature_block I read it, thank you, but that didn't answer my question. So what should I do, create a *.txt file with my signature and using Thunderbird (Tools-Account Settings - Attach This Signature) attach it. I think I've done it and that didn't preserve my signature as it is in txt file. My question is: How you create your signatures, and use them in Thunderbird(and under Windows, can't use KSig and KMail, sorry...)., Is it an external file with what extension? Best, Sergey -- AT Sergey Mkrtchyan, C---G Master Student, G-CDepartment Of Molecular Physics, T---A Faculty Of Physics, Yerevan State University AT e-mail: mksergey[at]freenet[dot]am G---Cweb: http://users.freenet.am/~mksergey -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Carlos E. R. wrote: I send and receive lots of e-mails which contain equations. I just prepare them using any equation editor and paste them as pictures in my HTML e-mail. So I raise my both hands ;) Good enough reason, for you :-) Paifull way of working on the other sides of the planet. Friend, who I'm working with, each time makes that all calculations by hand then scan it and send it to me as pdf. Slow process... I use plain text for lists, it saves many bytes. I reserve html for special needs. I don't see it as evil, just often unneceasry. While we are at it, let me ask, why in plain text messages several spaces (nbsp;) are displayed as one? When I send letter as plain text my signature screws up, displaying not DNA there at all. I should mention that signature is HTML file, which I attach in Thunderbird as my signature? You need to create a diferent signature in plain text. Use a diferent profile for the list, which uses plain text and sig. I've configured TB in a way that it sends to this list only plain text messages. The question actually was how to create a signature in plain text. How it is usually done? (newbie, maybe) Best, Sergey -- AT Sergey Mkrtchyan, C---G Master Student, G-CDepartment Of Molecular Physics, T---A Faculty Of Physics, Yerevan State University AT e-mail: mksergey[at]freenet[dot]am G---C -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-01-06 at 12:24 +0400, Sergey Mkrtchyan wrote: Read this, then correct your signature: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signature_block I read it, thank you, but that didn't answer my question. So what should I do, create a *.txt file with my signature and using Thunderbird (Tools-Account Settings - Attach This Signature) attach it. I think I've done it and that didn't preserve my signature as it is in txt file. You can have several diferent signatures for your different profiles (Thunderbird calls them identities), based on the from address, mostly. You need to create a plain ascii signature, there is no alternative. That is, use a plain text signature for your plain text emails, and an html sig for your html emails. Two diferent signatures. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFn5I+tTMYHG2NR9URAoS7AKCL7yCT67ka4H0fcZKMNXb9WJwxswCgjb4+ C6rz3BaFa3WEHWPuTAjxYss= =4NO7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-01-06 at 12:42 +0400, Sergey Mkrtchyan wrote: Good enough reason, for you :-) Paifull way of working on the other sides of the planet. Friend, who I'm working with, each time makes that all calculations by hand then scan it and send it to me as pdf. Slow process... He could use a graphic format as png. Ah, have a look at the djvu format: it is designed for scanned material, not as pdf. The problem is creation, not simple. You need to create a diferent signature in plain text. Use a diferent profile for the list, which uses plain text and sig. I've configured TB in a way that it sends to this list only plain text messages. The question actually was how to create a signature in plain text. How it is usually done? (newbie, maybe) By hand, not program. There are some ascii art programs around, but I haven't tried. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFn5MxtTMYHG2NR9URAm7CAKCHNLz+HAbFv++JTerm9p+Qexl4cwCgk5d4 FlJuaNxKBl6C0gSSZuggbKU= =i1a7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Carlos! Carlos E. R. wrote: The Saturday 2007-01-06 at 12:42 +0400, Sergey Mkrtchyan wrote: Paifull way of working on the other sides of the planet. Friend, who I'm working with, each time makes that all calculations by hand then scan it and send it to me as pdf. Slow process... He could use a graphic format as png. Ah, have a look at the djvu format: it is designed for scanned material, not as pdf. The problem is creation, not simple. Will drop that idea to him ;) I guess he has configured his scanner to produce pdf automatically, not sure though. You need to create a diferent signature in plain text. Use a diferent profile for the list, which uses plain text and sig. I've configured TB in a way that it sends to this list only plain text messages. The question actually was how to create a signature in plain text. How it is usually done? (newbie, maybe) By hand, not program. There are some ascii art programs around, but I haven't tried. Ok, I've already regitered to opensuse-test list ;), now playing there with it. Seems that problem is in my mail provider web-page, not general one. By the way, I liked identities in TB very much. Didn't know about them before. Good thing. Thank you very much again. Sergey -- AT Sergey Mkrtchyan, C---G Master Student, G-CDepartment Of Molecular Physics, T---A Faculty Of Physics, Yerevan State University AT e-mail: mksergey[at]freenet[dot]am G---Cweb: http://users.freenet.am/~mksergey -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2007-01-07 at 00:21 +0400, Sergey Mkrtchyan wrote: He could use a graphic format as png. Ah, have a look at the djvu format: it is designed for scanned material, not as pdf. The problem is creation, not simple. Will drop that idea to him ;) I guess he has configured his scanner to produce pdf automatically, not sure though. Ah, yes, some scanner programs (specially in windows) produce pdf output directly, making them simple to generate. maybe it is possible to do the same in Linux. The djvu format is very interesting, it produces small files out of scanned material with much better readability. The strong disadvantage is that generating them is not easy. Programs like The Gimp can not create them, not even load them. The only way in Linux to create them is by command line, and not a simple one. Konqueror can not display it. There are plugins for Firefox and Iexplorer, though. Ok, I've already regitered to opensuse-test list ;), now playing there with it. Seems that problem is in my mail provider web-page, not general one. By the way, I liked identities in TB very much. Didn't know about them before. Good thing. It's a new feature; I discovered it about two months ago. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFoCfvtTMYHG2NR9URAkZ7AJ9Qv3QFuUGPtOr2HMWAhIxzSYQAAACdGMq2 Q6IkER865BhzNzUi7oeL1wk= =5SXZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sat, 2007-01-06 at 23:51 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2007-01-07 at 00:21 +0400, Sergey Mkrtchyan wrote: He could use a graphic format as png. Ah, have a look at the djvu format: it is designed for scanned material, not as pdf. The problem is creation, not simple. Will drop that idea to him ;) I guess he has configured his scanner to produce pdf automatically, not sure though. Ah, yes, some scanner programs (specially in windows) produce pdf output directly, making them simple to generate. maybe it is possible to do the same in Linux. It is possible using the latest versions of xsane. It allows you to automatically save the doc to a file and pdf is one of the formats supported. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ah, yes, some scanner programs (specially in windows) produce pdf output directly, making them simple to generate. maybe it is possible to do the same in Linux. xsane = 0.98 can do single page pdf. xsane = 0.99 can do multi-paged pdf prjects. Charles -- printk(KERN_CRIT PFX Reboot didn't ?\n); linux-2.6.6/drivers/char/watchdog/softdog.c pgpmnsy4Ezsm6.pgp Description: PGP signature
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-01-06 at 18:11 -0500, Kenneth Schneider wrote: It is possible using the latest versions of xsane. It allows you to automatically save the doc to a file and pdf is one of the formats supported. You are right, the version in 10.1 does that. I don't see it because I call xsane from inside the Gimp, and the options are slightly diferent (no save menu). Still, no djvu. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFoDaktTMYHG2NR9URAtzgAJ9Wg+S5ZXxJTGnGtyZyp4yCDkyYRQCgl0I5 R+pWRZbFBJ5lg6aX+hAMcU8= =oQhP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, 2007-01-05 at 14:55 -0500, James Knott wrote: Michael Nelson wrote: On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 01:55:42AM -0500, Mike McMullin wrote: Perhaps I'm in the minority here, but I bit bucket HTML e-mails coming into this account as soon as I see them, unread. I do too. I figure if someone is clueless enough to send HTML mail, the content is unlikely to be of interest to me. And what have you got against Viagra? ;-) Cialis is cheaper? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-01-05 at 01:55 -0500, Mike McMullin wrote: Perhaps I'm in the minority here, but I bit bucket HTML e-mails coming into this account as soon as I see them, unread. That's an overkill. I agree that sending html to this list (and many lists) is a no-no, but I certainly don't go as far as banning html emails from friends. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFnjjAtTMYHG2NR9URAmHlAJ9M/zJTiilakJQ2CzY6EdkqrW2ZLwCgkW+Z ZmuxSh8JbnvxWI2HEYGBkTM= =Q1/T -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Randall R Schulz wrote: On Thursday 04 January 2007 22:31, Mike McMullin wrote: ... Please don't ever send someone or anyone you might like, HTML e-mail. Why not? Typographic variation is an age-old aspect of textual expression. There's no good reason to eschew it. Why should we be stuck in the 1970s when it comes to written, on-line communication? I include a company logo on my work email. The only way to do that, is HTML. However, I've got my address book configured so that HTML does not go to the lists I subscribe to. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 01:55:42AM -0500, Mike McMullin wrote: Perhaps I'm in the minority here, but I bit bucket HTML e-mails coming into this account as soon as I see them, unread. I do too. I figure if someone is clueless enough to send HTML mail, the content is unlikely to be of interest to me. -- If a kid asks where rain comes from, I think a cute thing to tell him is God is crying. And if he asks why God is crying, another cute thing to tell him is Probably because of something you did. San Francisco, CA -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 2007/01/05 07:11 (GMT-0800) Randall R Schulz apparently typed: On Friday 05 January 2007 04:33, Joachim Schrod wrote: Because HTML emails tend to be much larger (again, not all of are on broadband all of the time). Can you quantify that? 'Cause I don't believe that a few font variations have a significant bloating effect on message body size. You can answer that yourself by viewing source on an outhouse excess message. They are sent as multipart mime, which means there are two copies of the actual content, plus the multipart overhead, plus the actual HTML markup, which can be considerable, plus the common malware binary attachment. -- I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full. John 10:10 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Friday 05 January 2007 07:32, Felix Miata wrote: On 2007/01/05 07:11 (GMT-0800) Randall R Schulz apparently typed: On Friday 05 January 2007 04:33, Joachim Schrod wrote: Because HTML emails tend to be much larger (again, not all of are on broadband all of the time). Can you quantify that? 'Cause I don't believe that a few font variations have a significant bloating effect on message body size. You can answer that yourself by viewing source on an outhouse excess message. They are sent as multipart mime, which means there are two copies of the actual content, plus the multipart overhead, plus the actual HTML markup, which can be considerable, plus the common malware binary attachment. This is a straw-man argument, and hence a fallacy. I'm not advocating markup-laden messages. I'm not advocating using bad software (and Outlook is bad software--clearly if your opinion of it is such that you'd call it outhouse, then you're not using it, so it's not even relevant). I'm just maintaining that simple typographic variation is something we should be able to use in email communication. Since the whole point is that on a message-by-message and recipient-by-recipient basis styled email is a good thing, you can choose whether to send both the plain and styled forms (if your mail client is any good). And why on earth would you send someone malware? I say, HTML mail is OK. And everyone hears Use all HTML, all the time in every venue and with the worst of all possible characteristics, including malware attachments. Please don't impute your own prejudices into my argument. Remember, the statement to which I objected is this: Please don't ever send someone or anyone you might like, HTML e-mail. Do you seriously think I'm advocating sending people with whom you communicate directly malware attachments and email that is so laden with markup that its two or three times as big as the plain text content it bears? I am not. ... Felix Miata Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, 2007-01-05 at 12:38 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-01-05 at 01:55 -0500, Mike McMullin wrote: Perhaps I'm in the minority here, but I bit bucket HTML e-mails coming into this account as soon as I see them, unread. That's an overkill. Not to mention poorly phrased. :/ I agree that sending html to this list (and many lists) is a no-no, but I certainly don't go as far as banning html emails from friends. So many lists so little time. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Randall R Schulz wrote: I say, HTML mail is OK. I say, ban all HTML in e-mail messages. Everyone who agrees, raise your arm. Everyone who disagrees, raise both arms. Then count and enforce the result... ;-) -- Geir A. Myrestrand -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Geir A. Myrestrand wrote: Randall R Schulz wrote: I say, HTML mail is OK. I say, ban all HTML in e-mail messages. Everyone who agrees, raise your arm. Everyone who disagrees, raise both arms. Then count and enforce the result... ;-) I send and receive lots of e-mails which contain equations. I just prepare them using any equation editor and paste them as pictures in my HTML e-mail. So I raise my both hands ;) While we are at it, let me ask, why in plain text messages several spaces (nbsp;) are displayed as one? When I send letter as plain text my signature screws up, displaying not DNA there at all. I should mention that signature is HTML file, which I attach in Thunderbird as my signature? I see you guys don't have such a problems with it, so what is the good way of creating ordered signature? Best, Sergey -- AT Sergey Mkrtchyan, C---G Master Student, G-CDepartment Of Molecular Physics, T---A Faculty Of Physics, Yerevan State University AT e-mail: mksergey[at]freenet[dot]am G---C -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Michael Nelson wrote: On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 01:55:42AM -0500, Mike McMullin wrote: Perhaps I'm in the minority here, but I bit bucket HTML e-mails coming into this account as soon as I see them, unread. I do too. I figure if someone is clueless enough to send HTML mail, the content is unlikely to be of interest to me. And what have you got against Viagra? ;-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sergey Mkrtchyan wrote: Geir A. Myrestrand wrote: Randall R Schulz wrote: I say, HTML mail is OK. I say, ban all HTML in e-mail messages. Everyone who agrees, raise your arm. Everyone who disagrees, raise both arms. Then count and enforce the result... ;-) I send and receive lots of e-mails which contain equations. I just prepare them using any equation editor and paste them as pictures in my HTML e-mail. So I raise my both hands ;) Note that you can send images without using HTML. Just make references to the attached images if necessary. There are also document formats you can use for this that will serve your content better. While we are at it, let me ask, why in plain text messages several spaces (nbsp;) are displayed as one? When I send letter as plain text my signature screws up, displaying not DNA there at all. I should mention that signature is HTML file, which I attach in Thunderbird as my signature? See, HTML is evil. Read this, then correct your signature: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signature_block I see you guys don't have such a problems with it, so what is the good way of creating ordered signature? Pure text. E-mail is for messages. :-) -- Geir A. Myrestrand -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-01-05 at 15:46 -0500, Geir A. Myrestrand wrote: Sergey Mkrtchyan wrote: I send and receive lots of e-mails which contain equations. I just prepare them using any equation editor and paste them as pictures in my HTML e-mail. So I raise my both hands ;) Note that you can send images without using HTML. Just make references to the attached images if necessary. There are also document formats you can use for this that will serve your content better. With html the image is shown inserted in the right place in the text flow. With plain text he would be forced to look it up. This is comparable to having books with the images printed in a separata in the middle of the book, because the printing machine can't handle it. Web sites use html. Nobody tells them to use plain text. Html is not evil per se. Use of html by evil people can be evil. That's different. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFnvVCtTMYHG2NR9URAnP0AJ9cYHCp/QA1KxdaMu/TO3aAXj1AGACeJJgX A1P3ip0qZ1jWRTWpWa8bFXY= =MWFP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-01-05 at 23:42 +0400, Sergey Mkrtchyan wrote: I say, ban all HTML in e-mail messages. Mmmm what about freedom of choice? Everyone who agrees, raise your arm. Everyone who disagrees, raise both arms. Then count and enforce the result... ;-) Why enforce? I send and receive lots of e-mails which contain equations. I just prepare them using any equation editor and paste them as pictures in my HTML e-mail. So I raise my both hands ;) Good enough reason, for you :-) I use plain text for lists, it saves many bytes. I reserve html for special needs. I don't see it as evil, just often unneceasry. While we are at it, let me ask, why in plain text messages several spaces (nbsp;) are displayed as one? When I send letter as plain text my signature screws up, displaying not DNA there at all. I should mention that signature is HTML file, which I attach in Thunderbird as my signature? You need to create a diferent signature in plain text. Use a diferent profile for the list, which uses plain text and sig. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFnvaNtTMYHG2NR9URAprAAKCLzBjZN3HfexXe6jm5GEBX9GG/TQCfRsgO VoCTkE2nTMIu2KEgbv6txgw= =pv9K -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 2007/01/06 02:08 (GMT+0100) Carlos E. R. apparently typed: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-01-05 at 23:42 +0400, Sergey Mkrtchyan wrote: I say, ban all HTML in e-mail messages. Mmmm what about freedom of choice? Exactly how does one choose to never receive any HTML email, or for that matter, never to receive email littered with useless PGP junk to a mailing list? -- I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full. John 10:10 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Friday 05 January 2007 17:15, Felix Miata wrote: ... Exactly how does one choose to never receive any HTML email, or for that matter, never to receive email littered with useless PGP junk to a mailing list? I suppose that whatever it is, it's the same way I would choose not to receive useless and offensive bible quotations via a mailing list. ... Felix Miata Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 05:45:53PM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote: I suppose that whatever it is, it's the same way I would choose not to receive useless and offensive bible quotations via a mailing list. Please sign me up for that one! -- If a kid asks where rain comes from, I think a cute thing to tell him is God is crying. And if he asks why God is crying, another cute thing to tell him is Probably because of something you did. San Francisco, CA -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-01-05 at 23:42 +0400, Sergey Mkrtchyan wrote: I say, ban all HTML in e-mail messages. Mmmm what about freedom of choice? Everyone who agrees, raise your arm. Everyone who disagrees, raise both arms. Then count and enforce the result... ;-) Why enforce? So we can exterminate HTML e-mail messages... ;-) -- Geir A. Myrestrand -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-01-05 at 15:46 -0500, Geir A. Myrestrand wrote: Sergey Mkrtchyan wrote: I send and receive lots of e-mails which contain equations. I just prepare them using any equation editor and paste them as pictures in my HTML e-mail. So I raise my both hands ;) Note that you can send images without using HTML. Just make references to the attached images if necessary. There are also document formats you can use for this that will serve your content better. With html the image is shown inserted in the right place in the text flow. With plain text he would be forced to look it up. This is comparable to having books with the images printed in a separata in the middle of the book, because the printing machine can't handle it. I know, that is why I said he can make a reference to the image (like what is frequently done in both magazines and books), or use a separate document that is either attached to the message or referenced via a URL for example. The latter is better if it has to be an inline image that is directly next to the associated text. Otherwise the connect the dots solution is often good enough IMO. Web sites use html. Nobody tells them to use plain text. Html is not evil per se. Agree. Use of html by evil people can be evil. That's different. Use of HTML in e-mail is evil (at least on a mailing list), no matter whether the person is evil or not. Well, that is my opinion. ;-) Most people probably don't care or disagree, and I am fine with that. We don't all have to agree (or disagree). I just voiced my opinion when someone voiced theirs. If you can't express yourself in pure text, then I don't want to see how you express yourself with HTML --at least not in an e-mail... ;-) I have to admit I receive regular e-mails in HTML too, by choice. Some content is more about presentation than the message, but to me it feels more like one of those things that was made because it was possible and not because it should be done. HTML messages are an excellent feed for spam filters though, maybe more useful for that than for artistic expressions. Maybe too much are shoe-horned into the old Internet e-mail standards to be backwards compatible. Wonder if we're ever going to see something like a new generation of e-mail standards that goes beyond what is in SMTP/ESMTP and associated standards today. -- Geir A. Myrestrand -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Friday 05 January 2007 20:02, Carlos E. R. wrote: Web sites use html. Nobody tells them to use plain text. Html is not evil per se. Use of html by evil people can be evil. That's different. You might be right However When they switched over to opensuse as a mail server from the old suse-linux-e, the first thing that struck me was one person sending html's to the list. I don't recall what struck me as offensive the way he was doing it and I *do* receive a lot of html mail from others not on the list. But this particular person was offensive and it caused me to make up a rule to delete all html coming to this list. So it depends but it certainly can be offensive. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-01-05 at 21:11 -0500, Bruce Marshall wrote: On Friday 05 January 2007 20:02, Carlos E. R. wrote: Web sites use html. Nobody tells them to use plain text. Html is not evil per se. Use of html by evil people can be evil. That's different. You might be right However When they switched over to opensuse as a mail server from the old suse-linux-e, the first thing that struck me was one person sending html's to That's different. I don't like html on lists, specially on suse lists, and I like that the server has a rule banning them: I missed that and I also noticed those emails coming to the list. That's very different from banning all html emails I receive. In fact, my spamassassing gives them some decipoints ;-) the list. I don't recall what struck me as offensive the way he was doing it and I *do* receive a lot of html mail from others not on the list. But this particular person was offensive and it caused me to make up a rule to delete all html coming to this list. So it depends but it certainly can be offensive. We are biased. I certainly become suspicious when I get an html email, and more so it is only html. But I decide on each one, I don't bann them. After all, I use Pine for my email... html doesn't harm me ;-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFnxAstTMYHG2NR9URAuhrAJ0YVKM0S6Ox8z0L+sQ27MjpvQNWOwCcDkVY mqQ7zqcO1fTS+0lzMG91ALQ= =EzWU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] test of sending to list using TEXT not HTML
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-01-05 at 21:06 -0500, Geir A. Myrestrand wrote: Note that you can send images without using HTML. Just make references to the attached images if necessary. There are also document formats you can use for this that will serve your content better. With html the image is shown inserted in the right place in the text flow. With plain text he would be forced to look it up. This is comparable to having books with the images printed in a separata in the middle of the book, because the printing machine can't handle it. I know, that is why I said he can make a reference to the image (like what is frequently done in both magazines and books), or use a separate document that is either attached to the message or referenced via a URL for example. The latter is better if it has to be an inline image that is directly next to the associated text. Otherwise the connect the dots solution is often good enough IMO. If someone needs to write emails with images inserted in the text, html is good enough for that use. Not the only solution, but it is one of the possible solutions. It is also nice for newsletters and circulars. It is just another resource, another tool that can be used and can be abused. That's the problem. For instance, I receive some commercial emails that I have to glance at. What I strongly dislike is that often they refer to external images: they break my privacy, they can know when and whether I read them. So my reader is set not to load them unless I tell it to. On the other hand, loading external images has an advantage for both sides: they are not sent to everybody, and thus it saves resources to both. As often, it is not the tool that is evil, but the use some make of it. And also very often, evil is too strong a word. Misguided users mostly. Web sites use html. Nobody tells them to use plain text. Html is not evil per se. Agree. Use of html by evil people can be evil. That's different. Use of HTML in e-mail is evil (at least on a mailing list), no matter whether the person is evil or not. Well, that is my opinion. ;-) I wouldn't say evil, but very improper. Solution is simple: if the mail contains a text part, let the text part through, discard the html. The old suse list server did that. If it is html only, reject it giving an explanation. The user may not even know he is using html. I know because many gmail users were not aware they were sending html to the list till the new opensuse server took over the old suse server. I consider evil use of html, for instance, phising. That's evil. They are trying to lure somebody and steal his money. They intend real damage to somebody. Hey, somebody sent last Monday an attachment to this list sized 258KB. Did you see it? It contains images. Last November there was a half a megabyte email, a log and an OOo file. That's also very improper in my book. Some people are paying metered connections. They should have uploaded the files somewhere and posted the link. Others send a me too line leaving intact 64 Kbytes of quoted email. That's also improper. Evil? That's to strong a word :-) Most people probably don't care or disagree, and I am fine with that. We don't all have to agree (or disagree). I just voiced my opinion when someone voiced theirs. Ok :-) If you can't express yourself in pure text, then I don't want to see how you express yourself with HTML --at least not in an e-mail... ;-) There is usually no need to use html. There may be, but not here. Although... perhaps a subset allowing some typographic control would be nice (emphasis, underline...). But impossible to agree on such an standard by now, I suppose. I have to admit I receive regular e-mails in HTML too, by choice. Some content is more about presentation than the message, but to me it feels more like one of those things that was made because it was possible and not because it should be done. Yes, too often. HTML messages are an excellent feed for spam filters though, maybe more useful for that than for artistic expressions. True as well. But you know, most of the spam I receive now days contain the payload in an image or photo. The plain text or html content is random. Maybe too much are shoe-horned into the old Internet e-mail standards to be backwards compatible. Wonder if we're ever going to see something like a new generation of e-mail standards that goes beyond what is in SMTP/ESMTP and associated standards today. Who knows :-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFnximtTMYHG2NR9URAsxzAJ9HG9d4eKDcOdDWzZdQQ/qaTH/mQQCfSG1K 7mKBFBaLTkOgAdCu9zJaLwg= =at4p -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Michael Nelson wrote: On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 05:45:53PM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote: I suppose that whatever it is, it's the same way I would choose not to receive useless and offensive bible quotations via a mailing list. Please sign me up for that one! And me. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This is an attempt to anser the problem of sending to the list - I keep getting denied posting. This is written with the HTML option disabled. winstephen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, 2007-01-04 at 14:29 -0800, StephenW wrote: This is an attempt to anser the problem of sending to the list - I keep getting denied posting. This is written with the HTML option disabled. Please don't ever send someone or anyone you might like, HTML e-mail. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thursday 04 January 2007 22:31, Mike McMullin wrote: ... Please don't ever send someone or anyone you might like, HTML e-mail. Why not? Typographic variation is an age-old aspect of textual expression. There's no good reason to eschew it. Why should we be stuck in the 1970s when it comes to written, on-line communication? Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, 2007-01-04 at 22:45 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote: On Thursday 04 January 2007 22:31, Mike McMullin wrote: ... Please don't ever send someone or anyone you might like, HTML e-mail. Why not? Typographic variation is an age-old aspect of textual expression. There's no good reason to eschew it. Why should we be stuck in the 1970s when it comes to written, on-line communication? Randall Schulz Perhaps I'm in the minority here, but I bit bucket HTML e-mails coming into this account as soon as I see them, unread. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Friday 15 December 2006 13:26, Kenneth Schneider wrote: Am I the only one on the list getting these auto replies from this twit? Forwarded Message From: CTI Corporativo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kenneth Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [opensuse] test Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 18:09:51 -0300 HOLA: NO RECIBI TU MAIL YA QUE ESTA CASILLA ESTA DESACTIVADA (ESTO ES UNA RESPUESTA AUTOMATICA) POR FAVOR REENVIARLO A [EMAIL PROTECTED] con copia a [EMAIL PROTECTED] Y AGENDAR ESTAS DOS DIRECCIONES COMO MI NUEVA DIRECCION DE CORREO MUCHAS GRACIAS Luciano Mari Brusco Ejecutivo de Cuenta Centro Comercial Buenos Aires. Departamento PYMES ( 011) 15 5883-2464 No. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Saturday 16 December 2006 00:26, Kenneth Schneider wrote: Am I the only one on the list getting these auto replies from this twit? No. I got 5. They probably are sent as a result of a mail you sent to the list. There are two email addresses mentioned in the mail body, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an *invalid* address (user unknown). I'm awaiting a response from the other one. Cheers, Leen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2006-12-15 at 18:26 -0500, Kenneth Schneider wrote: Am I the only one on the list getting these auto replies from this twit? No. That's why I have been trying to contact the list owner for two days at least so that he is unsusbscribed, but it seems he (the owner) must be on holidays. He (the twit) is a chap that has set an autoresponder telling every body that because of spam he has changed address to so and so... amongst those bodies he is telling the spammers as well what his new address is. Clever. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFgzWGtTMYHG2NR9URAnJuAKCMPUecEhV4RVFYoX/rtDh7sEQXJgCeN9Sc gMHlZ3At13QfcDzfEui581g= =4qhT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Leendert Meyer schrieb: On Saturday 16 December 2006 00:26, Kenneth Schneider wrote: Am I the only one on the list getting these auto replies from this twit? No. I got 5. They probably are sent as a result of a mail you sent to the list. There are two email addresses mentioned in the mail body, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an *invalid* address (user unknown). I'm awaiting a response from the other one. Cheers, Leen just deled 2 of them, on my thread. cti corporativo ?!?! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFgzYLI2s6na0vU1cRAv8zAJwOEY/nWhLK9RXcJJEiBrrerr1DJwCcCNVG MI1uOANI8lAx3/xCBXxcb70= =t9z4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Friday 15 December 2006 17:26, Kenneth Schneider wrote: Am I the only one on the list getting these auto replies from this twit? Forwarded Message From: CTI Corporativo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kenneth Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [opensuse] test Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 18:09:51 -0300 So far, yes. -- Calling an illegal alien an 'undocumented worker', is like calling a home intruder an 'unwanted houseguest'. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] test
This is a test to see how this mailinglist works, please forgive me for this, if I understand how this works I will post some useful info. /Lennart -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] test
On Thu December 14 2006 8:52 am, Lennart G Peterson scratched these words onto a coconut shell, hoping for an answer: This is a test to see how this mailinglist works, please forgive me for this, if I understand how this works I will post some useful info. Hmmm, calls up a question, Henne, is the [EMAIL PROTECTED] up ?? TIA -- j -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] test
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-14-06 09:06]: Hmmm, calls up a question, Henne, is the [EMAIL PROTECTED] up ?? Not Henne, but [EMAIL PROTECTED] definitely works. ps, it is _very_ easy to confirm :^) -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] test
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-14-06 09:06]: Hmmm, calls up a question, Henne, is the [EMAIL PROTECTED] up ?? Not Henne, but [EMAIL PROTECTED] definitely works. ps, it is _very_ easy to confirm :^) Just why do people always need to test... either it works (= your mail comes back as part of the setup, or you'll find it in the archive) or it does not. No problem. -`J' -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] test
Smartass On Thursday 14 December 2006 15:20, Jan Engelhardt wrote: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-14-06 09:06]: Hmmm, calls up a question, Henne, is the [EMAIL PROTECTED] up ?? Not Henne, but [EMAIL PROTECTED] definitely works. ps, it is _very_ easy to confirm :^) Just why do people always need to test... either it works (= your mail comes back as part of the setup, or you'll find it in the archive) or it does not. No problem. -`J' -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] test
Hi! On Thursday 14 December 2006 15:20, Jan Engelhardt wrote: Just why do people always need to test... either it works (= your mail comes back as part of the setup, or you'll find it in the archive) or it does not. No problem. It's a brain test! You fail if the mailing succeeds. Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] test
It is kind of amazing to see your mails, now I understand why there are instructions on the Opensuse website how to apply filters In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eye man is king. /Lennart On Thursday 14 December 2006 15:30, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Lennart G Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-14-06 09:26]: Smartass Take care, some time in the distant future you may be able to count your IQ on your second hand. plonk -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
