Re: [opensuse-factory] Partitioner needs overhaul...
Hans Witvliet wrote: > As said, use LVM > > with lvm+reiser you can enlarge them on-the-fly, but have to unmount > them for shrinking Seconded, though my preference is for ext3 - downside is the annoying tendency to do a full check just when you least want it, but on the plus side it seems more tolerant of dirty umounts >> Have a nice day, >> > Same to you, > Final remark, for small partitions (<100MB) use ext3, not reiserfs Surely you mean ext2? > And for those that never change (usr, opt) journaling is not needed. A good point, though presumably journalling has little effect on read performance so the main effect is a small loss of capacity. I thought ext3 was the default now on OSL? FWIW, I'd like to see LVM by default too. Final comment - if changes are made to the YaST partitioner, could I propose a 'newbie' (simple) mode button: defaults when set: swap plus single / ext3 partition; defaults when unset: LVM, separate /boot (ext2), /home (ext3), swap, ... -- Cheers Richard (MQ) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Using Instlux: issues setting up SUSE from Windows
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alexey Eremenko wrote: > This page indicates that it is indeed possible to run Linux OS on NTFS > partition: > http://www.ntfs-3g.org/support.html#rootfs > > Having Linux on NTFS can bring us to serious revolution across Windows > users ! A real revolution in how Windows users *think* about openSUSE > ! Oh, really. > But we have to make it simple for the Windows crowd to install > openSUSE on the same NTFS partition as Windows. (such as C:\) "we" ? Sure, go ahead, implement a proof-of-concept then come back with "!!!". > This means either enhance our current "Basic Setup Routine" and > "Yast-setup" to handle those new requirements easily, or we need to > write completely new (Windows-based) setup for openSUSE distro. Plus, > We can go both directions at once. :) Go ahead. The source code is available. PS: opensuse-factory: "Discussion about all Alpha, Beta, RC and Factory versions of openSUSE" http://en.opensuse.org/Communicate#Development_Lists - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGUniNr3NMWliFcXcRAhTEAJ0RYsOeC6jar3rGX1EZ4KTgUPcaHACfQSj0 iThY6uQ4/yo0dlDvK4zaZQk= =QWLQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Installing on SATA HDD with SATA DVD-Burner
Hi list, I have installed openSUSE 10.3 alpha 4 on a SATA2 HDD using a SATA2 DVD-Burner. So far so good. However the mobo has Radeon Xpress 1250 integrated graphics which only runs in framebuffer mode on alpha 4. I would like to exercise the graphics chip in 3D mode but so far there are no opensource drivers for the X1250 and the ATI Proprietary Linux x86_64 Display Driver 8.36.5 does not yet support X-Org 7.2 found in alpha 4. Now openSUSE 10.2 GM is pre X-Org 7.2 so the Proprietary Driver would probably work there but sadly 10.2 does not support SATA HDDs and SATA Burners :-( Can anyone tell me how to install 10.2 GM with the necessary SATA support? Hardware: ASUS M2A-VM mobo (AMD690G chipset) Athlon 64 X2 4800+ CPU Kingston KVR667D2N5K2/2G (2GB DDR2/667 RAM) 320GB Seagate Barracuda Sata2 HDD Pioneer DVR-212 Sata2 DVD Burner - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] SUSE Linux Thin client solution
On Thursday 05 April 2007 17:47, Terje J. Hanssen wrote: > Adrian Schröter wrote: > > On Wednesday 04 April 2007 15:23:31 wrote Terje J. Hanssen: > >> Novell recently introduced "SUSE Linux Enterprise Thin Client Solution" > >> http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-introduces-suse-linux-enterprise > >>-th in-client-solution/ > >> > >> Does someone here know if this TC solution is based on a netboot SLED10 > >> image "only", or if it also possibly and alternatively can make use of > >> the NX clients/server solution for Linux and Windows without the need to > >> boot a new OS? > > > > SLED 10 only. > > > >> Does possibly openSUSE 10.3 include this TC solution as OSS or non-OSS? > > > > You can create easily a ThinClient image with kiwi. IIRC Marcus has > > also a > > config for ThinClient in it (btw, kiwi is also used for the Novel > > ThinClient > > solution). > > > > If the config does not exist, please ask Marcus to add it. > > Thank you for the information and clarification. > > Rgds > Terje J. Hanssen > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] update to this thread http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP -- James Tremblay Director of Technology Newmarket School District Novell CNE 3\4\5 CLE \ NCE in training. http://en.opensuse.org/education - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Beagle and beagle-helper real obstacles when making back-ups.
2007/5/21, M9. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the subject. They stop the process of copying or comparing..very annoying. - -- I uninstalled beagle, and installed the old "locate", for me is better. I have'nt removed the beagle dbs or files; for example what names has those files, and where are it to remove completely it? Have a nice night! Regards - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] VJ decompression error
After a problems with my ISP (Timofonica), I must to go back to my old 56k sporster Robotics and my older ISP (in the absense of adsl), but I has frequently disconnections problems with it. The dmesg result is: SFW2-INext-DROP-DEFLT-INV IN=modem0 OUT= MAC= SRC=62.189.244.228 DST=200.45.208.50 LEN=457 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=52 ID=13266 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=80 DPT=27556 WINDOW=65535 RES=0x00 ACK PSH FIN URGP=0 OPT (0101080A6A887173000C7C18) PPP: VJ decompression error PPP: VJ decompression error SFW2-INext-DROP-DEFLT IN=modem0 OUT= MAC= SRC=221.208.208.86 DST=200.45.208.50 LEN=486 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=49 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=55888 DPT=1026 LEN=466 PPP: VJ decompression error PPP: VJ decompression error PPP: VJ decompression error PPP: VJ decompression error PPP: VJ decompression error PPP: VJ decompression error PPP: VJ decompression error PPP: VJ decompression error PPP: VJ decompression error SFW2-INext-DROP-DEFLT-INV IN=modem0 OUT= MAC= SRC=62.189.244.228 DST=200.45.208.50 LEN=457 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=52 ID=13931 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=80 DPT=27556 WINDOW=65535 RES=0x00 ACK PSH FIN URGP=0 OPT (0101080A6A888A73000C7C18) SFW2-INext-DROP-DEFLT IN=modem0 OUT= MAC= SRC=221.208.208.96 DST=200.45.208.50 LEN=486 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=49 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=47166 DPT=1026 LEN=466 PPP: VJ decompression error PPP: VJ decompression error PPP: VJ decompression error Regards - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Strange hang
Today, after a few minutes with the system up and with the screensaver activated, suddently the screen was freezed, and the Caps and Numlock leds begins to blinking (go on and off), and the system not responds to Alt+Ctrl+Del, and must power off it. I have installed OSS 10.3 alpha3 (or 4, the version in the repos of may 12), and kernel 2.6.21-4, KDE version 3.5.6 "release 38". The hardware has a Athlon XP2600+ with a Asus A7V600, with a tv tuner card based ib bt878 conexant chips, and a Nvidia 6200 video card. /var/log/warn: May 21 17:47:23 linux powersaved[4047]: WARNING (readConfigFile:173) Found actions variable for non existing event: 'global.suspend2disk' May 21 17:47:23 linux powersaved[4047]: WARNING (readConfigFile:173) Found actions variable for non existing event: 'global.suspend2ram' May 21 17:47:23 linux powersaved[4047]: WARNING (readConfigFile:173) Found actions variable for non existing event: 'global.standby' May 21 17:47:23 linux powersaved[4047]: WARNING (readConfigFile:173) Found actions variable for non existing event: 'global.resume.suspend2disk' May 21 17:47:23 linux powersaved[4047]: WARNING (readConfigFile:173) Found actions variable for non existing event: 'global.resume.suspend2ram' May 21 17:47:23 linux powersaved[4047]: WARNING (readConfigFile:173) Found actions variable for non existing event: 'global.resume.standby' May 21 17:47:23 linux powersaved[4047]: WARNING (readConfigFile:173) Found actions variable for non existing event: 'global.suspend2disk.other' May 21 17:47:23 linux powersaved[4047]: WARNING (CpufreqManagement:51) No capability cpufreq_control May 21 17:47:23 linux powersaved[4047]: WARNING (CpufreqManagement:51) No capability cpufreq_control May 21 17:47:23 linux powersaved[4047]: WARNING (continueEvent:248) Could not execute program /usr/lib/powersave/scripts for event daemon.scheme.change: No such file or directory May 21 17:47:27 linux SuSEfirewall2: Warning: no default firewall zone defined, assuming 'ext' May 21 17:47:47 linux kernel: bt878(0): irq PPERR risc_pc=a0003e03 May 21 17:55:27 linux kernel: bt878(0): irq PPERR risc_pc=a0003e03 /var/log/messages: May 21 17:47:23 linux kernel: bttv0: SCERROCERR @ ffefbbfc,bits: FMTCHG* VSYNC HSYNC OFLOW HLOCK* VPRES* 6 7 I2CDONE* GPINT* 10 RISCI* FBUS FTRGT FDSR PPERR RIPERR PABORT OCERR* SCERR* May 21 17:47:23 linux kernel: bttv0: SCERROCERR @ ffefbbfc,bits: FMTCHG* VSYNC HSYNC OFLOW HLOCK* VPRES* 6 7 I2CDONE* GPINT* 10 RISCI* FBUS FTRGT FDSR PPERR RIPERR PABORT OCERR* SCERR* May 21 17:47:23 linux powersaved[4047]: WARNING (readConfigFile:173) Found actions variable for non existing event: 'global.suspend2disk' May 21 17:47:23 linux powersaved[4047]: WARNING (readConfigFile:173) Found actions variable for non existing event: 'global.suspend2ram' May 21 17:47:23 linux powersaved[4047]: WARNING (readConfigFile:173) Found actions variable for non existing event: 'global.standby' May 21 17:47:23 linux powersaved[4047]: WARNING (readConfigFile:173) Found actions variable for non existing event: 'global.resume.suspend2disk' May 21 17:47:23 linux powersaved[4047]: WARNING (readConfigFile:173) Found actions variable for non existing event: 'global.resume.suspend2ram' May 21 17:47:23 linux powersaved[4047]: WARNING (readConfigFile:173) Found actions variable for non existing event: 'global.resume.standby' May 21 17:47:23 linux powersaved[4047]: WARNING (readConfigFile:173) Found actions variable for non existing event: 'global.suspend2disk.other' May 21 17:47:23 linux powersaved[4047]: WARNING (CpufreqManagement:51) No capability cpufreq_control May 21 17:47:23 linux powersaved[4047]: WARNING (CpufreqManagement:51) No capability cpufreq_control May 21 17:47:23 linux powersaved[4047]: WARNING (continueEvent:248) Could not execute program /usr/lib/powersave/scripts for event daemon.scheme.change: No such file or directory May 21 17:47:24 linux smpppd[4057]: smpppd version 1.59 started May 21 17:47:23 linux sshd[4094]: Server listening on :: port 22. May 21 17:47:25 linux nvtvd[3787]: started May 21 17:47:25 linux nvtvd[3787]: pipes made May 21 17:47:25 linux nvtvd[3787]: server loop May 21 17:47:25 linux nvtvd[4117]: detached from terminal May 21 17:47:25 linux nvtvd[4117]: open in pipe May 21 17:47:26 linux /usr/sbin/cron[4210]: (CRON) STARTUP (V5.0) May 21 17:47:26 linux kernel: bttv0: SCERROCERR @ ffefbbfc,bits: FMTCHG* VSYNC HSYNC OFLOW HLOCK* VPRES* 6 7 I2CDONE* GPINT* 10 RISCI* FBUS FTRGT FDSR PPERR RIPERR PABORT OCERR* SCERR* May 21 17:47:27 linux SuSEfirewall2: Setting up rules from /etc/sysconfig/SuSEfirewall2 ... May 21 17:47:27 linux SuSEfirewall2: Warning: no default firewall zone defined, assuming 'ext' May 21 17:47:28 linux kernel: bttv0: SCERROCERR @ ffefbbfc,bits: FMTCHG* VSYNC HSYNC OFLOW HLOCK* VPRES* 6 7 I2CDONE* GPINT* 10 RISCI* FBUS FTRGT FDSR PPERR RIPERR PABORT OCERR* SCERR* May 21 17:47:28 linux SuSEfirewall2: batch committing... May 21 17:47:29 linux kernel: bttv0: SCERROCERR @ ffefbbfc,bits: FMT
Re: [opensuse-factory] Partitioner needs overhaul...
On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 17:25 +0200, M9. wrote: > We see that the suggestion to create a serious partitioner, like PQ > Partition Magic was not so bad at all. > I constantly run into problems, because it is much too difficult too > change the sizes of existing partitions. I would suggest using LVM! > Now, one has too back-up his/her home, throw away all partitions, and > start all over again. What's wrong with that? > More logic would be: Load the files nessesary to create what is needed > first, (the room for the system, and i am still convinced, that there > are seperate partitions needed, for: /boot,/,/opt,/usr,/var, (and evt > /tmp), swap, and /home.) and then, one should be able to change sizes, > without having to delete /home. The systems i have to manage, have seperate /boot (normally not mounted) /usr and /opt (both mounted RO), seperate /tmp, /var, /var/log, /srv, /tmp and /home. > It must be possible to reduce the size of /home, if more room for fi: > /boot, /usr, and/or /var is needed. Create them at minimum, and resize them when needed > > I realy mean that it is totaly anoying, not being able to change your > available room, without spending hours to back-up the data you want to > save.. As said, use LVM with lvm+reiser you can enlarge them on-the-fly, but have to unmount them for shrinking > I simply can not understand that nobody else finds this nessesary. (Some people only create root-partition and root-user ;-() > > > Have a nice day, > Same to you, Final remark, for small partitions (<100MB) use ext3, not reiserfs And for those that never change (usr, opt) journaling is not needed. -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Using Instlux: issues setting up SUSE from Windows
This page indicates that it is indeed possible to run Linux OS on NTFS partition: http://www.ntfs-3g.org/support.html#rootfs Having Linux on NTFS can bring us to serious revolution across Windows users ! A real revolution in how Windows users *think* about openSUSE ! But we have to make it simple for the Windows crowd to install openSUSE on the same NTFS partition as Windows. (such as C:\) This means either enhance our current "Basic Setup Routine" and "Yast-setup" to handle those new requirements easily, or we need to write completely new (Windows-based) setup for openSUSE distro. Plus, We can go both directions at once. :) -- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] SaX2 source
Am Montag, 21. Mai 2007 19:02 schrieb Rafał Miłecki: > 2007/5/21, Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > http://www.google.com/search?q=sax2+x11 > > Thanks, that was so easy. I did not think about typing "x11". > > One more question: is there some way to avoid problems cause by lack > of XFree86 devel libs? When typing "make" I get: > > parse.c:21:24: error: xf86Parser.h: No such file or directory When you want to compile software, you should know pin. Just typ "pin xf86Parser.h" and let the computer search for the package. -- Machs gut| http://www.iivs.de/schwinde/buerger/tremmel/ | http://packman.links2linux.de/ Manfred | http://www.knightsoft-net.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Using Instlux: issues setting up SUSE from Windows
I would like to go even further and feature-request openSUSE setup on NTFS entirely ! ! ! Is it possible to achieve ? -NTFS capabilities: I don't know for sure, but it looks like NTFS-3g has enough POSIX compatibility to make it possible to install openSUSE on ntfs-3g partition entirely. That is - mount "/" partition on NTFS, as well as swap-on-NTFS. -How to install ? I have theoretical alternative: use RPM for Cygwin to just install openSUSE distro on local Windows folder, without rebooting and going through Yast-setup. Some easy setup could be built very quickly for Windows (using InnoSetup) Then we will need just to reboot into openSUSE to start the new system ! -What this will require from openSUSE? probably integrating ntfs-3g into the ditrso, plus building initrd with ntfs-3g, so that the kernel can mount the "/" partition. What do you think about it? Please help me push ntfs-3g into openSUSE ! https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=247750 -- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Partitioner needs overhaul...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Patrick Shanahan schreef: > * M9. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05-21-07 14:07]: >> Beagle is a disaster, which keeps creating unreadable files, that no >> one will ever use again. Beagle is the example of the >> 'cluttermachine'.. in my vieuw.. > > No, it *is* handy, even if you have order. You must have an older > version which had problems or you have mis-configured somehow. I will look at it again in the 10.3 editions ;-) > - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.18.8-03-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.2 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.5 "release 45.4" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGUeeqX5/X5X6LpDgRAnzQAKCuPONa7+HUDkBJWZ6YpkIU+RE/hQCeK6vP 235KnuKM1b70z3xcouKhcw4= =Tw7u -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Partitioner needs overhaul...
* M9. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05-21-07 14:07]: > Beagle is a disaster, which keeps creating unreadable files, that no > one will ever use again. Beagle is the example of the > 'cluttermachine'.. in my vieuw.. No, it *is* handy, even if you have order. You must have an older version which had problems or you have mis-configured somehow. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Partitioner needs overhaul...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steffen Winterfeldt schreef: > On Mon, 21 May 2007, M9. wrote: > >> I can not understand that this is not understood;-) > > All I need is a system partition for the os and a large data partition for me > to create a mess. > >> Just imagine what happens: all files get all over the disk, which makes >> a mess, and makes time to find the file you want longer. >> Cann't you see this? > > Isn't that what's beagle for? > > No? :-) Beagle is a disaster, which keeps creating unreadable files, that no one will ever use again. Beagle is the example of the 'cluttermachine'.. in my vieuw.. To keep track of what is happening, one must keep ones system clean. (my /home is a 6,3 GB mess, but i would not want to imagine that my OS was like that..errr...?!) :-) > > > Steffen > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.18.8-03-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.2 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.5 "release 45.4" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGUds0X5/X5X6LpDgRAnvQAKCrksrQCQei+R3GDilv0MaoPjEoRACeIMTu uqPkAGqtDgbiML0n5N52Rs4= =d1Gc -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] SaX2 source
2007/5/21, Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
http://www.google.com/search?q=sax2+x11
Thanks, that was so easy. I did not think about typing "x11".
One more question: is there some way to avoid problems cause by lack
of XFree86 devel libs? When typing "make" I get:
parse.c:21:24: error: xf86Parser.h: No such file or directory
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Partitioner needs overhaul...
On Mon, 21 May 2007, M9. wrote: > Well, since i have noticed the enormous difference in performance and > speed, i will allways use them, if possible. > I realy can not understand that this huge difference, between 1 large > partition and several smaller ones, is not noticed among you people.. > > If one would read the manual, that comes along with SuSE, it is Uhh, there you got me. :-) > recommended to use partitions... > It is obvious, that those who write the manual, are not the same as > those who use the system... > > Maybe the absence of a good partitioner, is the reason, no one uses them;-) > > Clear to me is that the problems that arise now, are caused by the > absence of a good partitioner, and the knowledge, that a good > partitioner is a must, for those who take their OS serious, because even > M$ knows that it needs room to install, and offers all you need in a > simplyfied version of fdisk, to delete, make and format partition(s), as > many as you like. But afterwards, you are allways able to change the > size, delete, move or create new partitions, if there is the need for it. > > To partition, is the basis for a useable OS. > To be able to change the available room, is a must to keep the system tuned. > > I can not understand that this is not understood;-) All I need is a system partition for the os and a large data partition for me to create a mess. > Just imagine what happens: all files get all over the disk, which makes > a mess, and makes time to find the file you want longer. > Cann't you see this? Isn't that what's beagle for? No? :-) Steffen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Partitioner needs overhaul...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steffen Winterfeldt schreef: > > IIRC there was a project once (long past) for a standalone-partitioner > (based on parted, if I'm not mistaken). > > My personal opinion is that a really good partitioner is one of those > projects that will never be done for linux. > > > Actually, I don't partition my drives that much. Like, apparently, most > users. ;-) > > > Steffen Well, since i have noticed the enormous difference in performance and speed, i will allways use them, if possible. I realy can not understand that this huge difference, between 1 large partition and several smaller ones, is not noticed among you people.. If one would read the manual, that comes along with SuSE, it is recommended to use partitions... It is obvious, that those who write the manual, are not the same as those who use the system... Maybe the absence of a good partitioner, is the reason, no one uses them;-) Clear to me is that the problems that arise now, are caused by the absence of a good partitioner, and the knowledge, that a good partitioner is a must, for those who take their OS serious, because even M$ knows that it needs room to install, and offers all you need in a simplyfied version of fdisk, to delete, make and format partition(s), as many as you like. But afterwards, you are allways able to change the size, delete, move or create new partitions, if there is the need for it. To partition, is the basis for a useable OS. To be able to change the available room, is a must to keep the system tuned. I can not understand that this is not understood;-) Just imagine what happens: all files get all over the disk, which makes a mess, and makes time to find the file you want longer. Cann't you see this? - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.18.8-03-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.2 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.5 "release 45.4" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGUcvVX5/X5X6LpDgRAnhZAJ9/mF3pzW81HjlU7MBO4opx/DBB7gCePQ/i QeMKjTrv8qPVS4JnPMqMZ+8= =cPkD -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: swapfile during installation
On Mon, 21 May 2007, Randall R Schulz wrote: > On Monday 21 May 2007 09:05, Steffen Winterfeldt wrote: > > On Mon, 21 May 2007, Randall R Schulz wrote: > > > On Monday 21 May 2007 08:37, Steffen Winterfeldt wrote: > > > > ... > > > > > > > > Really cool users can show their advancedness by booting with > > > > (for example): > > > > > > > > insmod=vfat exec="mount /dev/sda1 /mnt ; dd if=/dev/zero > > > > of=/mnt/foo bs=1G count=1 ; mkswap /mnt/foo ; swapon /mnt/foo ; > > > > /usr/local/bin/umount -l /mnt" > > > > > > > > which does exactly what you want. :-) > > > > > > That's definitely cool, ... > > > > ... > > > > > By the way, why attempt to unmount /mnt? Since there's now an open > > > file there, is it not guaranteed to fail? > > > > You need to get rid of it, because (a) yast uses /mnt and (b) yast > > might want to mount the partition itself. umount will not fail as > > '-l' makes a 'lazy' umount (unmounts no matter what). > > Ah. That one was new to me. The man page clarifies that the mount point > is freed up but resources in use on the mounted system remain intact > until released in the normal manner by whatever is using them. > > You could always use an alternate mount point, creating it first with > mkdir. And despite the obvious infallibility of your commands, if for > some reason the unmount failed, then YaST's or the installer's need to > subsequently mount something there would also fail. Better to preclude > the possibility, no? (In true Murphy's law style!) Sure, you can add a 'mkdir /bar' and use that - but then you'd have to type even more. Steffen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: swapfile during installation
On Mon, 21 May 2007, M9. wrote: > Steffen Winterfeldt schreef: > > > > That sounds rather like bug. Please consider a bugreport. > > > > > > Steffen > > Well, i never encountered this before, but i never installed 10.2 on > 'small' machines before... > > 10.0 did install without running out of RAMspace.. I really wonder how we did that. :-/ > But if it is possible to give Yast the ability to create a swap > partition, this would be logical. (since it is needing this huge amount > of space...) The swap-file suggestion sounds not bad. But the tricky part is of course to track the partition as unchangeable. Steffen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: swapfile during installation
On Monday 21 May 2007 09:05, Steffen Winterfeldt wrote: > On Mon, 21 May 2007, Randall R Schulz wrote: > > On Monday 21 May 2007 08:37, Steffen Winterfeldt wrote: > > > ... > > > > > > Really cool users can show their advancedness by booting with > > > (for example): > > > > > > insmod=vfat exec="mount /dev/sda1 /mnt ; dd if=/dev/zero > > > of=/mnt/foo bs=1G count=1 ; mkswap /mnt/foo ; swapon /mnt/foo ; > > > /usr/local/bin/umount -l /mnt" > > > > > > which does exactly what you want. :-) > > > > That's definitely cool, ... > > ... > > > By the way, why attempt to unmount /mnt? Since there's now an open > > file there, is it not guaranteed to fail? > > You need to get rid of it, because (a) yast uses /mnt and (b) yast > might want to mount the partition itself. umount will not fail as > '-l' makes a 'lazy' umount (unmounts no matter what). Ah. That one was new to me. The man page clarifies that the mount point is freed up but resources in use on the mounted system remain intact until released in the normal manner by whatever is using them. You could always use an alternate mount point, creating it first with mkdir. And despite the obvious infallibility of your commands, if for some reason the unmount failed, then YaST's or the installer's need to subsequently mount something there would also fail. Better to preclude the possibility, no? (In true Murphy's law style!) > Steffen Randall Schulz - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: swapfile during installation
On Mon, 21 May 2007, Randall R Schulz wrote: > On Monday 21 May 2007 08:37, Steffen Winterfeldt wrote: > > ... > > > > Really cool users can show their advancedness by booting with (for > > example): > > > > insmod=vfat exec="mount /dev/sda1 /mnt ; dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/foo > > bs=1G count=1 ; mkswap /mnt/foo ; swapon /mnt/foo ; > > /usr/local/bin/umount -l /mnt" > > > > which does exactly what you want. :-) > > That's definitely cool, but I'd turn down the dd buffer size and > compensate by increasing the record count. If a buffer of the specified > size (bs= argument) cannot be allocated by dd, it will fail. (It's not > going to affect the speed unless the buffer size is ridiculously small, > since the whole thing is utterly I/O-bound.) Given that no swap is > available at the time, asking for a gigabyte would mean that many > users' systems would not be able to accommodate this request. Granted. 'bs=1M count=1024' would be better. > Speaking of failure, you might want to replace the semicolons with > double ampersands, so the later commands only execute if the earlier > ones succeed. Bah! My commmands never fail. :-) > By the way, why attempt to unmount /mnt? Since there's now an open file > there, is it not guaranteed to fail? You need to get rid of it, because (a) yast uses /mnt and (b) yast might want to mount the partition itself. umount will not fail as '-l' makes a 'lazy' umount (unmounts no matter what). Steffen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Partitioner needs overhaul...
On Mon, 21 May 2007, M9. wrote: > We see that the suggestion to create a serious partitioner, like PQ > Partition Magic was not so bad at all. > I constantly run into problems, because it is much too difficult too > change the sizes of existing partitions. > > Now, one has too back-up his/her home, throw away all partitions, and > start all over again. > > And in the low ram case, one is not even capable to reach the partioner, > which is off course not very sane.. > > More logic would be: Load the files nessesary to create what is needed > first, (the room for the system, and i am still convinced, that there > are seperate partitions needed, for: /boot,/,/opt,/usr,/var, (and evt > /tmp), swap, and /home.) and then, one should be able to change sizes, > without having to delete /home. > > It must be possible to reduce the size of /home, if more room for fi: > /boot, /usr, and/or /var is needed. > > I realy mean that it is totaly anoying, not being able to change your > available room, without spending hours to back-up the data you want to > save.. IIRC there was a project once (long past) for a standalone-partitioner (based on parted, if I'm not mistaken). My personal opinion is that a really good partitioner is one of those projects that will never be done for linux. > I hope it is not too late for 10.3 final, to change this, but this hope > might be in vane... > > I simply can not understand that nobody else finds this nessesary. Actually, I don't partition my drives that much. Like, apparently, most users. ;-) Steffen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: swapfile during installation
On Monday 21 May 2007 08:37, Steffen Winterfeldt wrote: > ... > > Really cool users can show their advancedness by booting with (for > example): > > insmod=vfat exec="mount /dev/sda1 /mnt ; dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/foo > bs=1G count=1 ; mkswap /mnt/foo ; swapon /mnt/foo ; > /usr/local/bin/umount -l /mnt" > > which does exactly what you want. :-) That's definitely cool, but I'd turn down the dd buffer size and compensate by increasing the record count. If a buffer of the specified size (bs= argument) cannot be allocated by dd, it will fail. (It's not going to affect the speed unless the buffer size is ridiculously small, since the whole thing is utterly I/O-bound.) Given that no swap is available at the time, asking for a gigabyte would mean that many users' systems would not be able to accommodate this request. Speaking of failure, you might want to replace the semicolons with double ampersands, so the later commands only execute if the earlier ones succeed. By the way, why attempt to unmount /mnt? Since there's now an open file there, is it not guaranteed to fail? > ... > > Steffen Randall Schulz - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: swapfile during installation
On Mon, 21 May 2007, Peter Czanik wrote: > I work a lot with machines with limited amount of RAM, like: > http://www.genesippc.com/openclient.php , but also many old PC's, which > are still suitable for running xfce, Opera, vnc and rdesktop. > Installation on these machines is getting more and more difficult due to > RAM requirements of the installer (especially the package manager). > Right now the only way to install openSUSE on such a machine is to > enable a swap partition at the beginning of installation. Here comes a > catch: one can not enable a swap partition, when a HDD is not yet > partitioned, or partitioned for Windows, so the disk has to be > partitioned manually with fdisk or parted before the installation can begin. > I wonder, if support for swap file could be added to LinuxRC, so these > machines could be installed a lot more easy. There are many ways > implementing it. For 2-3 installations even an USB key would do the job > (yes, I know that they don't like many write operations, but one does > not install machines so often :-) ), or any existing ext2/reiserfs/FAT > partition, which Linux can write. One could use a 'swfilepart=/dev/sdb1' > parameter to choose a device and then create a big enough > 'suseinstallswap' file, which can be deleted at the end. 'big enough' is > about 350MB for factory / ftp installation source. Then mkswap, swapon > could be ran on it, and installation of these low RAM machines could be > done just as any other openSUSE install. > This is of course only for 'advanced' users, who know what they do, just > as installing from a partition, where the user needs to take care, that > the installation source is not formatted during installation :-) Really cool users can show their advancedness by booting with (for example): insmod=vfat exec="mount /dev/sda1 /mnt ; dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/foo bs=1G count=1 ; mkswap /mnt/foo ; swapon /mnt/foo ; /usr/local/bin/umount -l /mnt" which does exactly what you want. :-) No idea what evil things will happen if you resize that partition in yast, though. Steffen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Partitioner needs overhaul...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well, We see that the suggestion to create a serious partitioner, like PQ Partition Magic was not so bad at all. I constantly run into problems, because it is much too difficult too change the sizes of existing partitions. Now, one has too back-up his/her home, throw away all partitions, and start all over again. And in the low ram case, one is not even capable to reach the partioner, which is off course not very sane.. More logic would be: Load the files nessesary to create what is needed first, (the room for the system, and i am still convinced, that there are seperate partitions needed, for: /boot,/,/opt,/usr,/var, (and evt /tmp), swap, and /home.) and then, one should be able to change sizes, without having to delete /home. It must be possible to reduce the size of /home, if more room for fi: /boot, /usr, and/or /var is needed. I realy mean that it is totaly anoying, not being able to change your available room, without spending hours to back-up the data you want to save.. I hope it is not too late for 10.3 final, to change this, but this hope might be in vane... I simply can not understand that nobody else finds this nessesary. - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.18.8-03-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.2 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.5 "release 45.4" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGUbnlX5/X5X6LpDgRApsrAJ9IerW8gwgNLHAiAWKi2qIRTET93ACg3hcN 51tNTkRPhvZABmIE5+9yzbM= =G5+3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: swapfile during installation
The problem is known. See: "Instlux" - setup openSUSE Linux from Windows: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=276450 -- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: swapfile during installation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steffen Winterfeldt schreef: > > That sounds rather like bug. Please consider a bugreport. > > > Steffen Well, i never encountered this before, but i never installed 10.2 on 'small' machines before... 10.0 did install without running out of RAMspace.. I would rather wait untill someone else also gets this problem, and than back up, unless you all say to file a bug offcourse.. (i can not reproduce it now) But if it is possible to give Yast the ability to create a swap partition, this would be logical. (since it is needing this huge amount of space...) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.18.8-03-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.2 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.5 "release 45.4" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGUbOSX5/X5X6LpDgRAjy0AKCM/pgtbgJ0sp95DjkjFc6m+RXLywCggBvY 8DYZIrYvbuta489zaR3EAug= =NrC3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Beagle and beagle-helper real obstacles when making back-ups.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alberto Passalacqua schreef: >> Is it cmd? > > Yes, it's a command line tool. > >> Is it standard in openSUSE? > > Yes, it's installed by default. > >> Is there a manual? > > You can just type "man manual" in a terminal and read there, but this > link provides you some useful hint to do backups: > > http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/ > > > You might consider also Unison, which is another tool to synchronise > directories. It's available in the OSS repository of openSUSE and you > can find more information here > http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/ > > Both the tools can use the network to synchronise, by means of SSH. > > Regards, > A. > Very usefull indeed! ;-) I also discovered that the cause might be: ext3 > fat32, in which is deleting from pc, instead right off the networkdrive even slower than comparing(!)(it is still deleting, while the new copy is ready for at least 20 minutes... have too look into this!) I now copied my home, which gets a little too fat if you ask me: 6,3 GB, to an existing Reiserfs partition somewhere on another drive, which took just a few minutes..:-) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.18.8-03-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.2 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.5 "release 45.4" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGUa22X5/X5X6LpDgRAhUrAKC2vW7aIKw6LQcDcasTTI2oQiVu5wCfW1EK ss2a8tIJPotYV5pkHSJTcRo= =/mnO -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: swapfile during installation
On Mon, 21 May 2007, M9. wrote: > Yesterday i wanted to update 10.0 > 10.2, on a Compaq Armada E500, with > 192MB Ram. (Not possible caused by unsolvable deps.) > > Yast suggested to use the available swap-partition, and continued. > However, the new install somehow screwed the partition label, and > install was terminated. That sounds rather like bug. Please consider a bugreport. Steffen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: swapfile during installation
On Mon, 21 May 2007, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > On Mon 21 May 2007 18:23:42 NZST +1200, Peter Czanik wrote: > > > Installation on these machines is getting more and more difficult due to > > RAM requirements of the installer (especially the package manager). > > Right now the only way to install openSUSE on such a machine is to > > enable a swap partition at the beginning of installation. > > You can only do that if the installer is able to proceed to the point > where it asks whether to enable a swap partition which already exists on > disk. The 10.2 one doesn't get that far with 128MB RAM, a black screen > and hard-hang results. Hmm I think that box had onboard shared-mem > graphics which prob effectively took 4-8MB off. linuxrc in 10.2 is setup to ask for swap if you have less than about 256MB RAM (provided you already have a swap partition.) Just did a quick check and it works for me (even with mem=110m, which should approximate your config). Steffen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Beagle and beagle-helper real obstacles when making back-ups.
> Is it cmd? Yes, it's a command line tool. > Is it standard in openSUSE? Yes, it's installed by default. > Is there a manual? You can just type "man manual" in a terminal and read there, but this link provides you some useful hint to do backups: http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/ You might consider also Unison, which is another tool to synchronise directories. It's available in the OSS repository of openSUSE and you can find more information here http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/ Both the tools can use the network to synchronise, by means of SSH. Regards, A. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] SaX2 source
On Monday 21 May 2007 13:57:34 Rafał Miłecki wrote: > Hello, > > Where may I find sources of SaX2? http://www.google.com/search?q=sax2+x11 first and second result: http://sax.berlios.de/ http://developer.berlios.de/projects/sax/ -- Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett Novell :: SUSE R&D, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Beagle and beagle-helper real obstacles when making back-ups.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alberto Passalacqua schreef: > Il giorno lun, 21/05/2007 alle 14.50 +0200, M9. ha scritto: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> >> Alberto Passalacqua schreef: >>> Not a solution for newbies, but you can shut beagle down temporarily >>> with: >>> >>> beagle-shutdown >> Might be not so bad, when on, it takes aaages to >> synchronize. > > What do you use to synchronize? I do my backups with rsync, and > excluding the first sync/copy, it's pretty fast. Is it cmd? Is it standard in openSUSE? Is there a manual? I am not yet used to the huge amounts of data in a home dir ;-( So i use something like Krusader, but it is so damn slow, one thinks it stopped. Second, i store on a networkdrive, with samba on it, using fat32...since i got one, but i am not able to get nfs on it (can not get into set-up, firmwareprotected) which would make a lot of things a lot easier.. Synchronising did not work:-( I am now throwing the old back-up away, (which also takes too much time!) to just copy my home again... lost my whole afternoon. I have to rearrange my partitions: /var and /usr are running out of space very quick, and my /boot is still too small... so i have too get rid off my old config, and start brandnew, with updated 'needed space info' ;-) This realy slows down the proces... > > Regards, > A. > > - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.18.8-03-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.2 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.5 "release 45.4" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGUabVX5/X5X6LpDgRAtM+AJ4siJhBnjN+ai9Yb+sC5NByH1YbEgCePIfG V5gN27+JS/RA7m36Tt1x+GM= =nc15 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Beagle and beagle-helper real obstacles when making back-ups.
Il giorno lun, 21/05/2007 alle 14.50 +0200, M9. ha scritto: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Alberto Passalacqua schreef: > > Not a solution for newbies, but you can shut beagle down temporarily > > with: > > > > beagle-shutdown > > Might be not so bad, when on, it takes aaages to > synchronize. What do you use to synchronize? I do my backups with rsync, and excluding the first sync/copy, it's pretty fast. Regards, A. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Beagle and beagle-helper real obstacles when making back-ups.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alberto Passalacqua schreef: > Not a solution for newbies, but you can shut beagle down temporarily > with: > > beagle-shutdown Might be not so bad, when on, it takes aaages to synchronize. > > Ciao, > A. > > Il giorno lun, 21/05/2007 alle 14.18 +0200, M9. ha scritto: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> As the subject. >> They stop the process of copying or comparing..very annoying. >> >> - -- >> >> >> Have a nice day, >> >> M9. Now, is the only time that exists. >> > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.18.8-03-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.2 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.5 "release 45.4" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGUZWlX5/X5X6LpDgRAszXAJsHliH9M0aXvOKQry9yXXcQJaEEFgCfUH5p EHg0o3QUS5RRK9EvwLctKm4= =901+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Beagle and beagle-helper real obstacles when making back-ups.
Not a solution for newbies, but you can shut beagle down temporarily with: beagle-shutdown Ciao, A. Il giorno lun, 21/05/2007 alle 14.18 +0200, M9. ha scritto: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > As the subject. > They stop the process of copying or comparing..very annoying. > > - -- > > > Have a nice day, > > M9. Now, is the only time that exists. > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Beagle and beagle-helper real obstacles when making back-ups.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the subject. They stop the process of copying or comparing..very annoying. - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.18.8-03-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.2 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.5 "release 45.4" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGUY4uX5/X5X6LpDgRApZ9AKCTn8MzhBdtP2iA/Yimb4jD+d1qPgCgmtbG dNnY3aqPZx3DN1IGlqI9X8M= =BiBU -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] SaX2 source
Hello,
Where may I find sources of SaX2?
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Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: swapfile during installation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 jdd schreef: > Peter Czanik wrote: >> Hello, >> I work a lot with machines with limited amount of RAM, like: > > I will add to this. > > I don't remember if the yast install console (there is one available, > don't remember the F-number) allow partitioning, but the rescue mode > allows it. > > however, with 10.2, when you _have_ made a swap partition, the automatic > partitoner/installer is confused and don't allow to use it by default > for the final install (it uses it for yast) > > practically, what I did: > > create a swap, mkswap, launch install... ok > when come to partitioning (free disk), I was said that 3 partitions > where needed: > * my original swap one, > * a new yast proposed swap partition, > * the / partition. > > I didn't too much look at the details (alas), go to expert mode, delete > the new swap and / yast proposal, don't touch my swap one, and add all > the rest as / > > after that, yast complain it can't mount the /dev/hda1 partition on the > "swap" mount point... may be my original swap part was reaffected by > yast, but in a funny way :-). > > I had only to go back to partitionner, assign and format my swap as > swap, the rest as / and all goes well. > > but, here, there are two potential problems: > > * a pre-existing swap should be used as swap :-)) by default > * why was a "swap" mount point ever proposed :-) > > on such system, when a swap part is needed, creating it should be proposed I would very well welcome this proposition on the short term. Yesterday i wanted to update 10.0 > 10.2, on a Compaq Armada E500, with 192MB Ram. (Not possible caused by unsolvable deps.) Yast suggested to use the available swap-partition, and continued. However, the new install somehow screwed the partition label, and install was terminated. W2K, and the 10.0 install unusable... Now i did re-install W2K, and am facing the same prob. It is solvable, but for people not as familiar, this would be: Not possible to install SuSE OS. This is the last thing we would want, i guess? > > jdd > > > - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.18.8-03-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.2 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.5 "release 45.4" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGUYSlX5/X5X6LpDgRAnUfAKDjF9TISYLj4LIiWlTs7Csiz/G1UACgyDWx AVUoctn7QI4bQAkeYz6UUCE= =hzWr -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: swapfile during installation
On Mon 21 May 2007 18:23:42 NZST +1200, Peter Czanik wrote: > Installation on these machines is getting more and more difficult due to > RAM requirements of the installer (especially the package manager). > Right now the only way to install openSUSE on such a machine is to > enable a swap partition at the beginning of installation. You can only do that if the installer is able to proceed to the point where it asks whether to enable a swap partition which already exists on disk. The 10.2 one doesn't get that far with 128MB RAM, a black screen and hard-hang results. Hmm I think that box had onboard shared-mem graphics which prob effectively took 4-8MB off. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Mon, 21 May 2007 01:26:22 +0100, Sid Boyce wrote: >I guessed that immediately I saw the "no supported hardware found" in >dmesg. I thought so, since you said that you got yourself new hardware :) I just added it as info for others. Philipp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: swapfile during installation
Peter Czanik wrote: Hello, I work a lot with machines with limited amount of RAM, like: I will add to this. I don't remember if the yast install console (there is one available, don't remember the F-number) allow partitioning, but the rescue mode allows it. however, with 10.2, when you _have_ made a swap partition, the automatic partitoner/installer is confused and don't allow to use it by default for the final install (it uses it for yast) practically, what I did: create a swap, mkswap, launch install... ok when come to partitioning (free disk), I was said that 3 partitions where needed: * my original swap one, * a new yast proposed swap partition, * the / partition. I didn't too much look at the details (alas), go to expert mode, delete the new swap and / yast proposal, don't touch my swap one, and add all the rest as / after that, yast complain it can't mount the /dev/hda1 partition on the "swap" mount point... may be my original swap part was reaffected by yast, but in a funny way :-). I had only to go back to partitionner, assign and format my swap as swap, the rest as / and all goes well. but, here, there are two potential problems: * a pre-existing swap should be used as swap :-)) by default * why was a "swap" mount point ever proposed :-) on such system, when a swap part is needed, creating it should be proposed jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://gourmandises.orangeblog.fr/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
