Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-11-26 Thread Stanislav Visnovsky
Dňa Saturday 24 November 2007 16:21:48 ste napísal:
> On Wed, 26 Sep 2007, Stanislav Visnovsky wrote:
> > Would /etc/zypp/locks help? See 'man zypper'.
>
> Hmm, what happened to that?  On FACTORY:
>
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> man zypper | grep lock
>   Reformatting zypper(8), please wait...
>
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> rpm -q zypper
>   zypper-0.6.15-0.4

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> zypper -V
zypper 0.8.25

Try 'zypper in zypper' first.

>
> The only file the FILES section of the man page refers to is
> /var/lib/zypp/cache.
>
> The SEE ALSO section only refers to rug(1) and YaST2(8), none of
> which covers /etc/zypp/locks.
>
> Also, should the zypper man page still refer to rug(1)?

It provides rug backward compatibility, so it kind of makes sense.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-11-24 Thread Gerald Pfeifer
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007, Stanislav Visnovsky wrote:
> Would /etc/zypp/locks help? See 'man zypper'.

Hmm, what happened to that?  On FACTORY:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> man zypper | grep lock
  Reformatting zypper(8), please wait...

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> rpm -q zypper
  zypper-0.6.15-0.4

The only file the FILES section of the man page refers to is 
/var/lib/zypp/cache.

The SEE ALSO section only refers to rug(1) and YaST2(8), none of
which covers /etc/zypp/locks.

Also, should the zypper man page still refer to rug(1)?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-26 Thread Jan Kupec
Miquel A. Noguera wrote:
> El Miércoles, 26 de Septiembre de 2007 12:58:44 Stanislav Visnovsky escribió:
> 
>>> With apt, all I have to do is edit /etc/apt/apt.conf and add problematic
>>> packages to de "Hold" line.
>>>
>>> Do zypper provide a similar function?
>> Would /etc/zypp/locks help? See 'man zypper'.
> 
> Oh, probably yes. I looked it before, but for shure I did not pay sufficient 
> attention to LOOKS section.
> 
> So, I must put one indidual line for each package to retain (wilcards 
> accepted. For example kernel-bigsmp-2.6.22.5-29 or just kernel-bigsmp*) 
> Right?
# Nope, it goes like this:
kernel-bigsmp
# or
kernel-bigsmp*
# if you want to avoid installing/updating/removing all versions of
# kernel-bigsmp or packages matching kernel-bigsmp*

# or the folloving if you want avoid installing/updating/removing
# a specific version of it
kernel-bigsmp > x.x.x.x

> Is it handled in any way from yast2?

I don't think so.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-26 Thread Jan Kupec
Miquel A. Noguera wrote:
> El Miércoles, 26 de Septiembre de 2007 10:36:27 Stanislav Visnovsky escribió:
> 
>> In which occasions?
> 
> occasion 3:
> ===
> 
> zypper downloads a package, applies it and then goes for next package.
> 
> It means our box can be in a inconsistent state until update is finised (even 
> hours).

True, we want to work on this as well.

> With apt (or smart) all packages are first downloaded and they will be 
> installed only when all required packages are downloaded, wich will shorten 
> dramatically this time.
> 
> Additionally, if conection is down during update proces, never knows what 
> will 
> happen with zypper (may be our box will be in a inconsistent state until 
> conection is available again).

True.

> With apt/smart this problem doesn't exist. Instead interrubted download will 
> be resumed for saving our time.

A nice feature to consider as well. Thanx.

> I am wrong?

Nope.


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-26 Thread Miquel A. Noguera
El Miércoles, 26 de Septiembre de 2007 12:58:44 Stanislav Visnovsky escribió:

> > With apt, all I have to do is edit /etc/apt/apt.conf and add problematic
> > packages to de "Hold" line.
> >
> > Do zypper provide a similar function?
>
> Would /etc/zypp/locks help? See 'man zypper'.

Oh, probably yes. I looked it before, but for shure I did not pay sufficient 
attention to LOOKS section.

So, I must put one indidual line for each package to retain (wilcards 
accepted. For example kernel-bigsmp-2.6.22.5-29 or just kernel-bigsmp*) 
Right?

Is it handled in any way from yast2?

Thanks.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-26 Thread Miquel A. Noguera
El Miércoles, 26 de Septiembre de 2007 13:00:03 Stanislav Visnovsky escribió:

> So, you basically create your own mirror using download-only functionality.
> Correct?

That's right.

> If so, do you need just the download-only, or also some other
> functionality?

Let's say it will be enough

Additionally, it would be wellcome the ability to triger some process when it 
finish.

For example:

- tell yast to update local repo
- tell openSUSE updater our system is already updated
- BTW, any custom script

Thanks.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-26 Thread Miquel A. Noguera
El Miércoles, 26 de Septiembre de 2007 10:36:27 Stanislav Visnovsky escribió:

> In which occasions?

occasion 3:
===

zypper downloads a package, applies it and then goes for next package.

It means our box can be in a inconsistent state until update is finised (even 
hours).

With apt (or smart) all packages are first downloaded and they will be 
installed only when all required packages are downloaded, wich will shorten 
dramatically this time.

Additionally, if conection is down during update proces, never knows what will 
happen with zypper (may be our box will be in a inconsistent state until 
conection is available again).

With apt/smart this problem doesn't exist. Instead interrubted download will 
be resumed for saving our time.

I am wrong?

Miquel.


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-26 Thread Stanislav Visnovsky
Dňa Wednesday 26 September 2007 12:06:49 Miquel A. Noguera ste napísal:
> El Miércoles, 26 de Septiembre de 2007 10:36:27 Stanislav Visnovsky 
escribió:
> > > In 10,3 zypper is so good that we will only need apt/smart in few
> > > occasions, and probably in 11.0 we will be able to forget them
> > > definitively
> > >
> > > :-)
> >
> > In which occasions?
>
> occasion 1)
> ===
>
> We need to download -only download- a list of packages and keep it for any
> posterior use, for example:
>
> - download updates every night to update our local update server
> - make a dvd update for pc's with no internet acces (great!)
>
> To do so, first, I get a list with all necessary rpm's in every box I
> maintain:
>
>   rpm -qa --queryformat "%{name} \n" | grep -v gpg-pubkey | sort >
> pc_01.list
>
> with those lists, every night my server's cron downloads all updates that
> afect me:
>
>   apt-get update
>   apt-get reinstall -dy $(cat pc_01.list pc_02.list ... pc_NN.list)
>
> and it updates my local repo too:
>
>   rm /srv/ftp/repo/RPMS.last/*
>   cp /var/cache/apt/*.rpm /srv/ftp/repo/RPMS.last
>   genbasedir /srv/ftp/repo/
>
> When I need, I can:
>
> - Test new updates in a vmware machine "without wait for download" (*)
> - Apply it fastly (*) to my 5 local pc's, if everthing is ok.
> - I can burn a dvd to update my home's pc, where I have no internet
> conetion. - Perform fastly a new updated fresh install
> - Retain versions of packages to prevent broken updrades.
>
> (*) 11Mb/s instead 106Kb/s means about 100 times faster.

So, you basically create your own mirror using download-only functionality. 
Correct?

If so, do you need just the download-only, or also some other functionality?

Stano
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-26 Thread Stanislav Visnovsky
Dňa Wednesday 26 September 2007 12:37:06 Miquel A. Noguera ste napísal:
> El Miércoles, 26 de Septiembre de 2007 10:36:27 Stanislav Visnovsky 
escribió:
> > > In 10,3 zypper is so good that we will only need apt/smart in few
> > > occasions, and probably in 11.0 we will be able to forget them
> > > definitively
> > >
> > > :-)
> >
> > In which occasions?
>
> Occasion 2
> ==
>
> apt allows to block automatic updates for desired packages.
>
> If it is known kenrel-x.y.z or package-a.b.c broks our system, we don't
> want it to be updated until there is a new trusted version available.
>
> With apt, all I have to do is edit /etc/apt/apt.conf and add problematic
> packages to de "Hold" line.
>
> Do zypper provide a similar function?

Would /etc/zypp/locks help? See 'man zypper'.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-26 Thread Miquel A. Noguera
El Miércoles, 26 de Septiembre de 2007 12:37:06 Miquel A. Noguera escribió:

> With apt, all I have to do is edit /etc/apt/apt.conf and add problematic
> packages to de "Hold" line.

zypper instead removes _allways_ the right version, download again the 
worong/s one/s, and then I have to remember downgrade it manually, wich means 
wasting a lot of time :-(

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-26 Thread Miquel A. Noguera
El Miércoles, 26 de Septiembre de 2007 10:36:27 Stanislav Visnovsky escribió:

> > In 10,3 zypper is so good that we will only need apt/smart in few
> > occasions, and probably in 11.0 we will be able to forget them
> > definitively
> >
> > :-)
>
> In which occasions?

Occasion 2
==

apt allows to block automatic updates for desired packages.

If it is known kenrel-x.y.z or package-a.b.c broks our system, we don't want 
it to be updated until there is a new trusted version available.

With apt, all I have to do is edit /etc/apt/apt.conf and add problematic 
packages to de "Hold" line.

Do zypper provide a similar function?

Regards.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-26 Thread Miquel A. Noguera
El Miércoles, 26 de Septiembre de 2007 10:36:27 Stanislav Visnovsky escribió:

> > In 10,3 zypper is so good that we will only need apt/smart in few
> > occasions, and probably in 11.0 we will be able to forget them
> > definitively
> >
> > :-)
>
> In which occasions?

occasion 1)
===

We need to download -only download- a list of packages and keep it for any 
posterior use, for example:

- download updates every night to update our local update server
- make a dvd update for pc's with no internet acces (great!)

To do so, first, I get a list with all necessary rpm's in every box I 
maintain:

rpm -qa --queryformat "%{name} \n" | grep -v gpg-pubkey | sort > 
pc_01.list

with those lists, every night my server's cron downloads all updates that 
afect me:

apt-get update
apt-get reinstall -dy $(cat pc_01.list pc_02.list ... pc_NN.list)

and it updates my local repo too:

rm /srv/ftp/repo/RPMS.last/*
cp /var/cache/apt/*.rpm /srv/ftp/repo/RPMS.last
genbasedir /srv/ftp/repo/

When I need, I can:

- Test new updates in a vmware machine "without wait for download" (*)
- Apply it fastly (*) to my 5 local pc's, if everthing is ok.
- I can burn a dvd to update my home's pc, where I have no internet conetion.
- Perform fastly a new updated fresh install
- Retain versions of packages to prevent broken updrades.

(*) 11Mb/s instead 106Kb/s means about 100 times faster.

Regards.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-26 Thread Stanislav Visnovsky
Dňa Tuesday 25 September 2007 20:49:43 Miquel A. Noguera ste napísal:
> El Martes, 25 de Septiembre de 2007 20:23:48 Cristian Rodriguez escribió:
> > > ...that's the reason why I use SmartPM. At least for now.
> >
> > Smart is nota solution.
>
> Unfortunately we haven't had "any solution" in 10.1 or 10.2, "only" non
> supported workarounds such as smart or apt :-(
>
> In 10,3 zypper is so good that we will only need apt/smart in few
> occasions, and probably in 11.0 we will be able to forget them definitively
> :-)

In which occasions? 

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-25 Thread Igor Jagec
On Uto, 2007-09-25 at 14:23 -0400, Cristian Rodriguez wrote:

> Smart is nota solution.

Probably it isn't, I don't know, I'm quite new to openSUSE. But it was
quite useful for playing with Factory. I'm definitely gonna use
supported solution when I switch to 10.3 when it becomes stable. BTW are
there any serious issues with SmartPM or something?

I experienced some problems with GNOME update manager (I guess it is
just a frontend for Zypper). That tool removed some packages from my
Factory system while updating, and I got no output at all what the heck
that tool had done. So I prefer CLI solution for now, and Zypper
provides nice output.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-25 Thread Miquel A. Noguera
El Martes, 25 de Septiembre de 2007 20:23:48 Cristian Rodriguez escribió:

> > ...that's the reason why I use SmartPM. At least for now.
>
> Smart is nota solution.

Unfortunately we haven't had "any solution" in 10.1 or 10.2, "only" non 
supported workarounds such as smart or apt :-(

In 10,3 zypper is so good that we will only need apt/smart in few occasions, 
and probably in 11.0 we will be able to forget them definitively :-)

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-25 Thread Cristian Rodriguez
Igor Jagec escribió:
> On Uto, 2007-09-25 at 00:08 -0400, Cristian Rodriguez wrote:
> 
>> M9. escribió:
>>> thnx, did not notice that, me stupid.. ;-0
>> No, you are not, is just that zypper up -t package is not quite intuitive :(
> 
> ...that's the reason why I use SmartPM. At least for now.

Smart is nota solution.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-25 Thread Miquel A. Noguera
El Martes, 25 de Septiembre de 2007 13:56:22 Klaus Kaempf escribió:

> > You meant on something like that:
> >
> > # zypper update --limit-rate=80k
> > # zypper update --throttle=80k
>
> No, I meant a description why and when such an option would
> be useful.

It will be great too the possibility of freshen an update server (physical or 
virtual) in our local network without consuming all the bandwidth, allowing 
to reuse downloaded files in several boxes / several times.

Thus we could test new updates in a virtual machine and, if everything works 
as espected, then apply the changes to the real system without to download 
them again.

Of course, this implies we need to keep downloaded files, wich I don't know if 
it's possible actually with zypper (is it?)

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-25 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Igor Jagec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Sep 25. 2007 15:26]:
> 
> The problem is that I share Internet connection with my neighbors via
> wireless network and if I do some big downloads without bandwidth
> limitation, they (neighbors) are sometimes unable to use Internet at
> all. Broadband Internet connection (ADSL in our case) is very expensive
> here in Croatia, so we usually share Internet connection. I know, maybe
> we should have QoS or something, but we do not have implemented such
> advanced solutions. It's a bit overkill for our small network.

Ok, understood and added to the list of planned features.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-25 Thread Igor Jagec
On Uto, 2007-09-25 at 13:56 +0200, Klaus Kaempf wrote:

> * Igor Jagec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Sep 25. 2007 13:49]:
> > > Throttle is not on the list yet. Can you provide a use-case
> > > for it ?
> > You meant on something like that:
> > # zypper update --limit-rate=80k
> > # zypper update --throttle=80k
> No, I meant a description why and when such an option would
> be useful.

This option is for instance useful for us who share Internet connection
with neighbors. Or when we don't want to use all bandwidth we have for
updating system or installing software.

The problem is that I share Internet connection with my neighbors via
wireless network and if I do some big downloads without bandwidth
limitation, they (neighbors) are sometimes unable to use Internet at
all. Broadband Internet connection (ADSL in our case) is very expensive
here in Croatia, so we usually share Internet connection. I know, maybe
we should have QoS or something, but we do not have implemented such
advanced solutions. It's a bit overkill for our small network.

> > I have another question about Zypper, do you have any plan to include
> > Rollback support? Or at least support for some rpm transacrion set, such
> > as noscripts, notriggers, nodocs, test, repackage... Rollback is a nice
> > feature and I use it on my Fedora 7 machines.
> Yes, this is planned.

That's great, thanks!

> However, the term 'rollback' has quite different meanings depending on
> whom you talk to. As we support a wide range of architectures with our
> SUSE Linux software, rollback for e.g. zSeries (IBM s/390) users means
> 'bit identical' reversion to a previous state. Thats rather hard to
> achieve with rpm.

I didn't know that, thanks.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-25 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Igor Jagec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Sep 25. 2007 13:49]:
> > Throttle is not on the list yet. Can you provide a use-case
> > for it ?
> 
> You meant on something like that:
> 
> # zypper update --limit-rate=80k
> # zypper update --throttle=80k

No, I meant a description why and when such an option would
be useful.

> 
> BTW it would be very nice if you make man pages for zypp.conf file. I
> gues we can "tweak" it :)

/etc/zypp/zypp.conf has extensive documentation. A man page should be
created nevertheless, I agree.

> 
> I have another question about Zypper, do you have any plan to include
> Rollback support? Or at least support for some rpm transacrion set, such
> as noscripts, notriggers, nodocs, test, repackage... Rollback is a nice
> feature and I use it on my Fedora 7 machines.

Yes, this is planned.

However, the term 'rollback' has quite different meanings depending on
whom you talk to. As we support a wide range of architectures with our
SUSE Linux software, rollback for e.g. zSeries (IBM s/390) users means
'bit identical' reversion to a previous state. Thats rather hard to
achieve with rpm.

Klaus

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2007-09-25 Thread Igor Jagec
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Klaus Kaempf wrote:

> * Igor Jagec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Sep 25. 2007 09:40]:
>> Are there any plans to include features like limit rate while
>> downloading (on Yum it is called Throttle) and repo priorities?
> Repo priorities are in the queue, yes.

That's great, thanks.

> Throttle is not on the list yet. Can you provide a use-case
> for it ?

You meant on something like that:

# zypper update --limit-rate=80k
# zypper update --throttle=80k

?

BTW it would be very nice if you make man pages for zypp.conf file. I
gues we can "tweak" it :)

I have another question about Zypper, do you have any plan to include
Rollback support? Or at least support for some rpm transacrion set, such
as noscripts, notriggers, nodocs, test, repackage... Rollback is a nice
feature and I use it on my Fedora 7 machines.

Cheers!

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-25 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Miquel A. Noguera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Sep 25. 2007 11:37]:
> 
> Don't worry: my wishlist is ready and I'm planning to post it here or where 
> it 
> is necessary to discuss it and to go for it ;-)

Good. I'm looking forward to this.

> 
> Nevertheless, now it's too late for final 10.3, so I think is better to wait 
> it is released and tested, and then we ask for enhancements.
> 
> When you think that it is the right moment to discuss it, just let me know.

The right time is always when the need for discussion comes up. The
earlier things surface, the better chance we make the right decisions.
Decisions either for the current or for the future development.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-25 Thread Miquel A. Noguera
El Martes, 25 de Septiembre de 2007 09:58:05 Klaus Kaempf escribió:

Hi, Klaus.

> So what are you really looking for ?
> What kind of improvements do you want to see in zypper ?

Don't worry: my wishlist is ready and I'm planning to post it here or where it 
is necessary to discuss it and to go for it ;-)

Nevertheless, now it's too late for final 10.3, so I think is better to wait 
it is released and tested, and then we ask for enhancements.

When you think that it is the right moment to discuss it, just let me know.

Regards.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-25 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Igor Jagec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Sep 25. 2007 09:40]:
> 
> Are there any plans to include features like limit rate while
> downloading (on Yum it is called Throttle) and repo priorities?

Repo priorities are in the queue, yes.

Throttle is not on the list yet. Can you provide a use-case
for it ?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-25 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Miquel A. Noguera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Sep 25. 2007 08:09]:
> 
> Of course now zypper is a lot better than previous versions, but still it 
> needs some improvements so it becomes the tool that really we are looking 
> for.

So what are you really looking for ?
What kind of improvements do you want to see in zypper ?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-25 Thread Igor Jagec
On Uto, 2007-09-25 at 00:08 -0400, Cristian Rodriguez wrote:

> M9. escribió:
> > thnx, did not notice that, me stupid.. ;-0
> No, you are not, is just that zypper up -t package is not quite intuitive :(

...that's the reason why I use SmartPM. At least for now. I'm quite new
to openSUSE and I'm currently switching from Fedora 7, so it takes time
to catch up with all the new technology you've implemented into new
openSUSE 10.3.

Are there any plans to include features like limit rate while
downloading (on Yum it is called Throttle) and repo priorities?

Thanks!

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Miquel A. Noguera schreef:
> El Martes, 25 de Septiembre de 2007 06:08:09 Cristian Rodriguez escribió:
> 

>>
>> I think zypper upgrade (or something like zypper upgrade-all) should do
>> what you want (and there is bugzilla entry for that IIRC)
> 
> 
> I agree too.
> 
> Of course now zypper is a lot better than previous versions, but still it 
> needs some improvements so it becomes the tool that really we are looking 
> for.
> 
> Regards.

Zypper works fine, and very fast.
This command is not in the help yet, so i think it might not be
completely set?

# zypper upgrade-all is certainly more intuitive, but where to place
like fi: -v or -t?



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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-24 Thread Miquel A. Noguera
El Martes, 25 de Septiembre de 2007 06:08:09 Cristian Rodriguez escribió:

> M9. escribió:
> > thnx, did not notice that, me stupid.. ;-0
>
> No, you are not, is just that zypper up -t package is not quite intuitive
> :(
>
> I think zypper upgrade (or something like zypper upgrade-all) should do
> what you want (and there is bugzilla entry for that IIRC)


I agree too.

Of course now zypper is a lot better than previous versions, but still it 
needs some improvements so it becomes the tool that really we are looking 
for.

Regards.


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-24 Thread Cristian Rodriguez
M9. escribió:

> 
> thnx, did not notice that, me stupid.. ;-0
> 

No, you are not, is just that zypper up -t package is not quite intuitive :(

I think zypper upgrade (or something like zypper upgrade-all) should do
what you want (and there is bugzilla entry for that IIRC)



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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-22 Thread Marcus Meissner
> After trying your above suggestion.  some of the output was omitted.
>  zypper update -t package
> 
> Problem: yast2-gtk cannot be installed due to missing dependencies

Unclear.
 
> Problem: gdm cannot be installed due to missing dependencies

This is a problem we have fixed now and is syncing out. (we removed
gdm again).

> Problem: Can't satisfy requirement /sbin/update-bootloader for 
> kernel-bigsmp-2.6.22.5-25.i586
> Regarding all resolvables with a compatible architecture.
> number, (r)etry or (c)ancel> c

Huh.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-22 Thread Donn Washburn

Marcus Meissner wrote:

On Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 11:11:17AM +0200, M9. wrote:

Hi,

Do i have to file a bug report for this?


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> su
Wachtwoord:
tribal-sfn2:/home/monkey9 # zypper update -t packages
Onbekend type oplosbare: packages


zypper update -t package

Without 's'.

Ciao, Marcus

After trying your above suggestion.  some of the output was omitted.
 zypper update -t package

Problem: yast2-gtk cannot be installed due to missing dependencies

Problem: No valid solution found with just resolvables of best architecture.
 With this run only resolvables with the best architecture have been 
regarded.


Problem: gdm cannot be installed due to missing dependencies
Problem: Can't satisfy requirement /sbin/update-bootloader for 
kernel-bigsmp-2.6.22.5-25.i586

Regarding all resolvables with a compatible architecture.
number, (r)etry or (c)ancel> c





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2007-09-22 Thread M9.
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Marcus Meissner schreef:
> On Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 11:11:17AM +0200, M9. wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Do i have to file a bug report for this?
>>
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> su
>>> Wachtwoord:
>>> tribal-sfn2:/home/monkey9 # zypper update -t packages
>>> Onbekend type oplosbare: packages
>
> zypper update -t package
>
> Without 's'.

thnx, did not notice that, me stupid.. ;-0


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper does not recognise: zypper update -t packages anymore..

2007-09-22 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 11:11:17AM +0200, M9. wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Do i have to file a bug report for this?
> 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> su
> > Wachtwoord:
> > tribal-sfn2:/home/monkey9 # zypper update -t packages
> > Onbekend type oplosbare: packages

zypper update -t package

Without 's'.

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