Re: Binary Search in Oracle

2002-02-20 Thread Gavin D'mello

the syntax is something like

SELECT id,parentid from taxonomy
START WITH parentid='x003'
CONNECT BY PRIOR id = parentid

which returns all related rows under a particular row  does anyone know
how to get all related rows above a particular row 


Thank You,

Gavin



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> Does any one remember the syntax for a binary search  say you have an
id
> column and a parentid column  Oracle can fetch all the ids either
> ascending or descending given a particular id. This is performed a s a
> binary tree search 
>
> anyone remembers the syntax ?
>
> Thank you
>
> Gavin
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Binary Search in Oracle

2002-02-20 Thread Gavin D'mello

Does any one remember the syntax for a binary search  say you have an id
column and a parentid column  Oracle can fetch all the ids either
ascending or descending given a particular id. This is performed a s a
binary tree search 

anyone remembers the syntax ?

Thank you

Gavin

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RE: Web DB 2.5 listener always hung for Oracle HRMS applications

2002-02-20 Thread CHAN Chor Ling Catherine (CSC)

Hi Hemant,

Thanks for supplying the correct article number. I'll look into it.

Even if my web 2.5 listener is up and running (see below), my users still
cannot logon to the Oracle Applications. The listener just hung.

# ps -ef | grep 8000
 orahrms  4406  4404  0 07:25:03 ?0:03 wdblsnr orion 8000
 orahrms  4404 1  0 07:25:03 ?0:00 /bin/csh -f
/dg2/oracle/nieora/8.0.6/bin/wdbstart orion 8000
 orahrms  7279  7271  0 13:53:45 pts/10:00 grep 8000

The problem can be solved by bouncing the listener. 

Qn : Has anyone using "Oracle HRMS V11.5.1" migrated from WebDB to Apache
listener before ? How's the performance ? Does the apache listener "hung" ?
Please advise. Thank you.

Regds,
Catherine
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Subject:RE: Web DB 2.5 listener always hung for
Oracle HRMS applicationsV11.

Catherine,

You have the wrong note.  Look up Note 119873.1 titled
"Apache Single
Listener Configuration for Applications 11.5.1"
I don't know how you are using the "at" command to startup
the servers.

I didn't suggest that the forms server and reports server
die.  I was
talking of the WebDB listener specifically !
WebDB2.2 handles forms sign-ons while 2.5 handles online
help and personal
home page and self-service modules.
Note 113254.1 refers to the Forms Server/Reports Server/
WebDB 2.2 dying
because of the
wrong shell.  You need to check the shell your WebDB 2.5
runs from. Note
144400.1 covers
WebDB 2.5 as well.

Do a "ps -ef" to see if the process is running.  Remember
that WebDB 2.2
and 2.5 have
different startup scripts and process names.

I do remember seeing WebDB 2.5 "die by itself"
occassionally.  We had a
cron job running
the webdb startup script periodically.


Hemant K Chitale
Principal DBA
Chartered Semiconductor Manufacturing Ltd


"CHAN Chor Ling Catherine (CSC)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21/02/2002 12:14 PM


 To: CHITALE Hemant Krishnarao/IT/CHRT/ST
Group@ST Domain, 
 "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

 cc:

 Subject: RE: Web DB 2.5 listener always hung
for Oracle HRMS applications 
V11.












Hi Hemant,

Please ignore my earlier email.

We use the at command to startup all our form server/report
server/webdb
listener etc so that even if we were to logout of the telnet
session where
the WebDB listener is started. The form server/report
server/listener will
not "hung"/"died" because the parent shell has died.

 Why don't you migrate from WebDB to Apache ?
I've found the document in metalink "Note:154666.1 => Moving
virtual
directory mappings from WebDB to iAS". Thanks.

Qn : Has anyone using "Oracle HRMS V11.5.1" migrated from
WebDB to Apache
before ? How's the performance ? Does the apache listener
"hung" ? Please
advise. Thank you.

Regds,
Catherine
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2002 11:08 AM
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 Subject:   Re: Web DB 2.5 listener
always hung for
Oracle HRMS applications V11.


 Catherine,


 Why don't you migrate from WebDB to
Apache ?.  There
is
excellent
 documentation
 on migrating from WebDB to Apache for
11i.

 Your WebDB listener could be "hung" if
it is running
in the
wrong shell --
 eg if you
 logout of the telnet session where the
WebDB listener
was
started, you will
   

RE: Web DB 2.5 listener always hung for Oracle HRMS applications V11.

2002-02-20 Thread hemantchitale

Catherine,

You have the wrong note.  Look up Note 119873.1 titled "Apache Single
Listener Configuration for Applications 11.5.1"
I don't know how you are using the "at" command to startup the servers.

I didn't suggest that the forms server and reports server die.  I was
talking of the WebDB listener specifically !
WebDB2.2 handles forms sign-ons while 2.5 handles online help and personal
home page and self-service modules.
Note 113254.1 refers to the Forms Server/Reports Server/ WebDB 2.2 dying
because of the
wrong shell.  You need to check the shell your WebDB 2.5 runs from. Note
144400.1 covers
WebDB 2.5 as well.

Do a "ps -ef" to see if the process is running.  Remember that WebDB 2.2
and 2.5 have
different startup scripts and process names.

I do remember seeing WebDB 2.5 "die by itself" occassionally.  We had a
cron job running
the webdb startup script periodically.


Hemant K Chitale
Principal DBA
Chartered Semiconductor Manufacturing Ltd


"CHAN Chor Ling Catherine (CSC)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>21/02/2002 12:14 PM
   

 To: CHITALE Hemant Krishnarao/IT/CHRT/ST Group@ST Domain, 

 "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   

 cc:   

 Subject: RE: Web DB 2.5 listener always hung for Oracle HRMS applications 

V11.   

   

   

   






Hi Hemant,

Please ignore my earlier email.

We use the at command to startup all our form server/report server/webdb
listener etc so that even if we were to logout of the telnet session where
the WebDB listener is started. The form server/report server/listener will
not "hung"/"died" because the parent shell has died.

 Why don't you migrate from WebDB to Apache ?
I've found the document in metalink "Note:154666.1 => Moving virtual
directory mappings from WebDB to iAS". Thanks.

Qn : Has anyone using "Oracle HRMS V11.5.1" migrated from WebDB to Apache
before ? How's the performance ? Does the apache listener "hung" ? Please
advise. Thank you.

Regds,
Catherine
 -Original Message-
 From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent:  Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:08 AM
 To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject:   Re: Web DB 2.5 listener always hung for
Oracle HRMS applications V11.


 Catherine,


 Why don't you migrate from WebDB to Apache ?.  There
is
excellent
 documentation
 on migrating from WebDB to Apache for 11i.

 Your WebDB listener could be "hung" if it is running
in the
wrong shell --
 eg if you
 logout of the telnet session where the WebDB listener
was
started, you will
 see
 subsequents requests to the listener failing.  This is
because the parent
 shell
 has died.

 If you are starting it from the Bourne shell, try
switching
to Korn shell
 before starting it
 (or vice versa).
 Check whether the startup script calls "nohup wdblsnr

  &".

 Hemant K Chitale
 Principal DBA
 Chartered Semiconductor Manufacturing Ltd


 "CHAN Chor Ling Catherine (CSC)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21/02/2002 10:13 AM
 Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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for
Oracle HRMS applications
  V11.












 Hi Gurus,

 We are running Oracle HRMS Applications 11I (V11.5.1)
in two
E450 sun
 servers. OS is Solaris 2.6

 1st server contains the database, concurrent manager
and
report server.
 2nd server contains the apache l

Re[2]: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Jonathan Gennick

Wednesday, February 20, 2002, 5:58:19 PM, you wrote:
KL> For example, we support a 911 center.  An Oracle-based application
KL> displays the caller's information on a screen to the call taker.  If you
KL> look in our database, you will see one user - it is the connection made by
KL> the software that displays the caller's info.  The app maintains one
KL> connection and displays the data on the appropriate screen.  Oracle is
KL> trying to tell us the the 911 callers are the "users". Give me a break!  At
KL> best, the call takers might be the users.

Oracle once tried to sell me a license for every resident in
the City of Columbus too, and for much the same reason. This
was for a dial-up interactive voice-response system. It took
me awhile, but I eventually got hold of a sales person with
a CLUE, and we ended counting each incomming phone line as a
user.

Best regards,

Jonathan Gennick   
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * 906.387.1698
http://Gennick.com * http://MichiganWaterfalls.com * http://ValleySpur.com

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RE: Web DB 2.5 listener always hung for Oracle HRMS applications

2002-02-20 Thread CHAN Chor Ling Catherine (CSC)

Hi Hemant,

Please ignore my earlier email. 

We use the at command to startup all our form server/report server/webdb
listener etc so that even if we were to logout of the telnet session where
the WebDB listener is started. The form server/report server/listener will
not "hung"/"died" because the parent shell has died.

 Why don't you migrate from WebDB to Apache ?
I've found the document in metalink "Note:154666.1 => Moving virtual
directory mappings from WebDB to iAS". Thanks.

Qn : Has anyone using "Oracle HRMS V11.5.1" migrated from WebDB to Apache
before ? How's the performance ? Does the apache listener "hung" ? Please
advise. Thank you.

Regds,
Catherine
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Sent:   Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:08 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject:Re: Web DB 2.5 listener always hung for
Oracle HRMS applications V11.


Catherine,


Why don't you migrate from WebDB to Apache ?.  There is
excellent
documentation
on migrating from WebDB to Apache for 11i.

Your WebDB listener could be "hung" if it is running in the
wrong shell --
eg if you
logout of the telnet session where the WebDB listener was
started, you will
see
subsequents requests to the listener failing.  This is
because the parent
shell
has died.

If you are starting it from the Bourne shell, try switching
to Korn shell
before starting it
(or vice versa).
Check whether the startup script calls "nohup wdblsnr

 &".

Hemant K Chitale
Principal DBA
Chartered Semiconductor Manufacturing Ltd


"CHAN Chor Ling Catherine (CSC)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21/02/2002 10:13 AM
Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please respond to ORACLE-L


 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   
 cc: (bcc: CHITALE Hemant Krishnarao/IT/CHRT/ST
Group) 
 Subject: Web DB 2.5 listener always hung for
Oracle HRMS applications 
 V11.












Hi Gurus,

We are running Oracle HRMS Applications 11I (V11.5.1) in two
E450 sun
servers. OS is Solaris 2.6

1st server contains the database, concurrent manager and
report server.
2nd server contains the apache listener, TCF SERVER, Web DB
2.5 listener,
Web DB 2.2 Listener and Form server listener.

Qn : The Web DB 2.5 listener always hung. Is there a way to
solve the
problem ? Is anyone having the same configurations as me
with no problem ?
Please help. Thanks

I've checked the network roundtrip between the 2 servers
using
tnsping=>fast, no bottlenecks
I've checked the number of processes in the database : it's
only 26
concurrent users (26ok
I've checked the 1st and 2nd server resources using vmstat
and iostat :
There are enough memory => no bottlenecks

Oracle consultants claim that there is bug in the Web DB 2.5
listener
(Version is "adwdbctl.sh.UNIX 115.1 2000/05/01 17:35:52").
The only
solution
is to bounce the web listener when the problem arises.

We even schedule a job to bounce the listener at 7am and 1pm
but that does
not solve the problem. Sometimes, I still have to bounce the
web listener
manually when user reports the problem.

Regds,
New Bee
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RE: Web DB 2.5 listener always hung for Oracle HRMS applications

2002-02-20 Thread CHAN Chor Ling Catherine (CSC)

Hi Hemant,

We use the at command to startup all our form server/report server/webdb
listener etc so that even if we were to logout of the telnet session where
the WebDB listener is started. The form server/report server/listener will
not "hung"/"died" because the parent shell has died.

 Why don't you migrate from WebDB to Apache ?
I've found the document in metalink "Note:154666.1 => Moving virtual
directory mappings from WebDB to iAS". Thanks.

Qn : Has anyone using "Oracle HRMS V11.5.1" migrated from WebDB to Apache
before ? How's the performance ? Does the apache listener "hung" ? Please
advise. Thank



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Subject:Re: Web DB 2.5 listener always hung for
Oracle HRMS applications V11.


Catherine,


Why don't you migrate from WebDB to Apache ?.  There is
excellent
documentation
on migrating from WebDB to Apache for 11i.

Your WebDB listener could be "hung" if it is running in the
wrong shell --
eg if you
logout of the telnet session where the WebDB listener was
started, you will
see
subsequents requests to the listener failing.  This is
because the parent
shell
has died.

If you are starting it from the Bourne shell, try switching
to Korn shell
before starting it
(or vice versa).
Check whether the startup script calls "nohup wdblsnr

 &".

Hemant K Chitale
Principal DBA
Chartered Semiconductor Manufacturing Ltd


"CHAN Chor Ling Catherine (CSC)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21/02/2002 10:13 AM
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Oracle HRMS applications 
 V11.












Hi Gurus,

We are running Oracle HRMS Applications 11I (V11.5.1) in two
E450 sun
servers. OS is Solaris 2.6

1st server contains the database, concurrent manager and
report server.
2nd server contains the apache listener, TCF SERVER, Web DB
2.5 listener,
Web DB 2.2 Listener and Form server listener.

Qn : The Web DB 2.5 listener always hung. Is there a way to
solve the
problem ? Is anyone having the same configurations as me
with no problem ?
Please help. Thanks

I've checked the network roundtrip between the 2 servers
using
tnsping=>fast, no bottlenecks
I've checked the number of processes in the database : it's
only 26
concurrent users (26ok
I've checked the 1st and 2nd server resources using vmstat
and iostat :
There are enough memory => no bottlenecks

Oracle consultants claim that there is bug in the Web DB 2.5
listener
(Version is "adwdbctl.sh.UNIX 115.1 2000/05/01 17:35:52").
The only
solution
is to bounce the web listener when the problem arises.

We even schedule a job to bounce the listener at 7am and 1pm
but that does
not solve the problem. Sometimes, I still have to bounce the
web listener
manually when user reports the problem.

Regds,
New Bee
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Re: Web DB 2.5 listener always hung for Oracle HRMS applications V11.

2002-02-20 Thread hemantchitale


Catherine,


Why don't you migrate from WebDB to Apache ?.  There is excellent
documentation
on migrating from WebDB to Apache for 11i.

Your WebDB listener could be "hung" if it is running in the wrong shell --
eg if you
logout of the telnet session where the WebDB listener was started, you will
see
subsequents requests to the listener failing.  This is because the parent
shell
has died.

If you are starting it from the Bourne shell, try switching to Korn shell
before starting it
(or vice versa).
Check whether the startup script calls "nohup wdblsnr 
 &".

Hemant K Chitale
Principal DBA
Chartered Semiconductor Manufacturing Ltd


"CHAN Chor Ling Catherine (CSC)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>21/02/2002 10:13 AM
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 V11.  

   

   

   






Hi Gurus,

We are running Oracle HRMS Applications 11I (V11.5.1) in two E450 sun
servers. OS is Solaris 2.6

1st server contains the database, concurrent manager and report server.
2nd server contains the apache listener, TCF SERVER, Web DB 2.5 listener,
Web DB 2.2 Listener and Form server listener.

Qn : The Web DB 2.5 listener always hung. Is there a way to solve the
problem ? Is anyone having the same configurations as me with no problem ?
Please help. Thanks

I've checked the network roundtrip between the 2 servers using
tnsping=>fast, no bottlenecks
I've checked the number of processes in the database : it's only 26
concurrent users (26ok
I've checked the 1st and 2nd server resources using vmstat and iostat :
There are enough memory => no bottlenecks

Oracle consultants claim that there is bug in the Web DB 2.5 listener
(Version is "adwdbctl.sh.UNIX 115.1 2000/05/01 17:35:52"). The only
solution
is to bounce the web listener when the problem arises.

We even schedule a job to bounce the listener at 7am and 1pm but that does
not solve the problem. Sometimes, I still have to bounce the web listener
manually when user reports the problem.

Regds,
New Bee
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11i ???

2002-02-20 Thread Janet Linsy

Hi, 

Many thanks to those who answered my Oracle financial
question.

Also, is Oracle 11i downloadable somewhere? Any
documentations available?

Thank you!

Janet

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Web DB 2.5 listener always hung for Oracle HRMS applications V11.

2002-02-20 Thread CHAN Chor Ling Catherine (CSC)

Hi Gurus,

We are running Oracle HRMS Applications 11I (V11.5.1) in two E450 sun
servers. OS is Solaris 2.6

1st server contains the database, concurrent manager and report server.
2nd server contains the apache listener, TCF SERVER, Web DB 2.5 listener,
Web DB 2.2 Listener and Form server listener. 

Qn : The Web DB 2.5 listener always hung. Is there a way to solve the
problem ? Is anyone having the same configurations as me with no problem ?
Please help. Thanks

I've checked the network roundtrip between the 2 servers using
tnsping=>fast, no bottlenecks
I've checked the number of processes in the database : it's only 26
concurrent users (26ok
I've checked the 1st and 2nd server resources using vmstat and iostat :
There are enough memory => no bottlenecks

Oracle consultants claim that there is bug in the Web DB 2.5 listener
(Version is "adwdbctl.sh.UNIX 115.1 2000/05/01 17:35:52"). The only solution
is to bounce the web listener when the problem arises.

We even schedule a job to bounce the listener at 7am and 1pm but that does
not solve the problem. Sometimes, I still have to bounce the web listener
manually when user reports the problem. 

Regds,
New Bee
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RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Steve Rospo



Nuclear Plant?  Don't say Larry didn't warn you:

"The Programs are not intended for use in any nuclear, aviation, mass
transit, medical, or other inherently dangerous applications. It shall be
the licensee's responsibility to take all appropriate fail-safe, backup,
redundancy, and other measures to ensure the safe use of such applications
if the Programs are used for such purposes, and Oracle Corporation
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> For one last 2 cents worth .  same for my last employer.  Even though
> there were only 4 entry stations into the Radiation Protected Area of the
> Nuclear Plant, all employees who were eligible to enter that area was
> considered a user.   Instead of 4, we had to have 1000 licenses.  At least
> Oracle is consistent in their greed...
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RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Kevin Lange

For one last 2 cents worth .  same for my last employer.  Even though
there were only 4 entry stations into the Radiation Protected Area of the
Nuclear Plant, all employees who were eligible to enter that area was
considered a user.   Instead of 4, we had to have 1000 licenses.  At least
Oracle is consistent in their greed...

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Actually this came up during our license evaluation as well.  We tried to go
with named users, but there was a catch.  We process transactions from a
sort of clearinghouse.  That clearinghouse is a single network connection,
and we process transactions with a small number of Oracle sessions.  From my
perspective, we had 5 sessions performing OLTP from a single source.  From
Oracle's perspective a user has to be determined in the "broadest scope
possible" (That is straight from the license agreement).  The result was
that since our clearinghouse was intermittently connected to 50,000
pharmacies, we would require over 50,000 named users.


Steve McClure

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Chris
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I don't think it was Oracle telling you that, it was the sales guy trying to
get his vacation paid for

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  In our latest discussions with Oracle, it is my understanding that there
is the Named user license and the CPU license.  CPU allows an unlimited
number of users.  Named has a limited number of users.  Now, it has always
been my personal experience that nobody really knows what a user is.  Ask 10
different Oracle personnel what a "user" is, and you will get 10 different
answers.
  For example, we support a 911 center.  An Oracle-based application
displays the caller's information on a screen to the call taker.  If you
look in our database, you will see one user - it is the connection made by
the software that displays the caller's info.  The app maintains one
connection and displays the data on the appropriate screen.  Oracle is
trying to tell us the the 911 callers are the "users". Give me a break!  At
best, the call takers might be the users.
  Apparently there are (or were) Term licenses also.  See
http://www.computerworld.com/storyba/0,4125,NAV47_STO61415,00.html
  Rest assured - as soon as you figure it out, they will change it.

Jay

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/20/02 12:30PM >>>
Adary - Wow that is not good! Has anyone else encountered this situation?
Does the licensing fee have a name? Any indication if it differs between US
and non-US licensing?
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Hello Dennis

We operate here on a site license that cover our internal users and servers.
About a month ago we talked with oracle about a database that will be
connected to
our internet site.
They come back and said that we need a separate license for this and our
regular site
license cover only INTERNAL use.
You need a separate license if you use the DB VIA internet.
I do not know if it is named or CPU or whatever.

Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -Original Message-
> From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wed, February 20, 2002 3:43 PM
> To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
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>
> Can anyone provide more details on "Web licensing"? I asked our manager
> that
> negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU
> (formerly UPU) licensing for unlimited users. I checked at Oraclestore,
> and
> it only shows Named and Processor licensing. If we are missing something,
> I
> would like to avoid a nasty licensing surprise.
> Dennis Williams
> DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
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RE: Dropping table space where name is lower case

2002-02-20 Thread Browett, Darren

Thanks to everyone for their quick responses, putting
spatial in double quotes does the job.

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I am unable to drop a tablespace that I created.

I created the tablespace with a lower case name, when I do a select * from
dba_tablespaces the name
is lowercase as opposed to uppercase.

When I "drop tablespace spatial"  oracle gives the following error message :

ORA-00959: tablespace 'SPATIAL' does not exist

This is oracle 8.1.7.2.?

Thanks

Darren


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Re: how to kill Distributed transaction

2002-02-20 Thread Rajesh . Rao


I dont remember it correctly, but you have to look at some id in the
dba_2pc_pending table, and then do a commit or a rollback with the force
option and pass that id number as a parameter. This did not work for me
sometimes in the past, and then I had to do a use a
.purge_lost_dbentry(id) or something. I dont remember the package
name or the exact procedure name. Search on Metalink for purging
distributed transactions.

Raj





   
   
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Do you have a transaction hanging on another database?  Any entries in any
of the alert logs for the participants?

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RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Bellows, Bambi

OH YEAH?  Wait til Unca Lar is in charge of all biometric data for every
human on earth.  6.2 Billion users.  He's gonna catch up to Bill Gates if he
has to destroy civil liberties world wide to do it.

Wallet envy.

Bambi.

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Can you immagine  living in a city of 1.6 million . you would have
to have 1.6 million licenses because each one of you is a potential caller
of 911   Not even Oracle is THAT greedy.

Think, user = software user. i.e. the call takers, not the call makers.



-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 2:04 PM
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I don't think it was Oracle telling you that, it was the sales guy trying to
get his vacation paid for

-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 2:29 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


  In our latest discussions with Oracle, it is my understanding that there
is the Named user license and the CPU license.  CPU allows an unlimited
number of users.  Named has a limited number of users.  Now, it has always
been my personal experience that nobody really knows what a user is.  Ask 10
different Oracle personnel what a "user" is, and you will get 10 different
answers.
  For example, we support a 911 center.  An Oracle-based application
displays the caller's information on a screen to the call taker.  If you
look in our database, you will see one user - it is the connection made by
the software that displays the caller's info.  The app maintains one
connection and displays the data on the appropriate screen.  Oracle is
trying to tell us the the 911 callers are the "users". Give me a break!  At
best, the call takers might be the users.
  Apparently there are (or were) Term licenses also.  See
http://www.computerworld.com/storyba/0,4125,NAV47_STO61415,00.html
  Rest assured - as soon as you figure it out, they will change it.

Jay

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/20/02 12:30PM >>>
Adary - Wow that is not good! Has anyone else encountered this situation?
Does the licensing fee have a name? Any indication if it differs between US
and non-US licensing?
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
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Hello Dennis

We operate here on a site license that cover our internal users and servers.
About a month ago we talked with oracle about a database that will be
connected to
our internet site.
They come back and said that we need a separate license for this and our
regular site
license cover only INTERNAL use.
You need a separate license if you use the DB VIA internet.
I do not know if it is named or CPU or whatever.

Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

> -Original Message-
> From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wed, February 20, 2002 3:43 PM
> To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject:  RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users
> 
> Can anyone provide more details on "Web licensing"? I asked our manager
> that
> negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU
> (formerly UPU) licensing for unlimited users. I checked at Oraclestore,
> and
> it only shows Named and Processor licensing. If we are missing something,
> I
> would like to avoid a nasty licensing surprise.
> Dennis Williams
> DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 


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RE: Dropping table space where name is lower case

2002-02-20 Thread michaelcupp
Title: RE: Dropping table space where name is lower case





What are the ...'s for?


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Darren,


Have you tried this *exact* syntax:


drop tablespace "spatial" 


HTH


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I am unable to drop a tablespace that I created.


I created the tablespace with a lower case name, when I do a select * from dba_tablespaces the name is lowercase as opposed to uppercase.

When I "drop tablespace spatial"  oracle gives the following error message :


ORA-00959: tablespace 'SPATIAL' does not exist


This is oracle 8.1.7.2.?


Thanks


Darren



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Re: Dropping table space where name is lower case

2002-02-20 Thread tday6

Try putting the word

 spatial

in double quotes.

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Re:RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread dgoulet


Dave,

I think that's the number of days since X-mas of the sales droid's birth
year.  Otherwise how do you explain the variability of their quotes? :-)

Dick Goulet
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Author: "Farnsworth; Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:   2/20/2002 12:19 PM

>From following this thread on Oracles pricing scheme I think it is dependent on
the day of the week, the phase of the moon, the number of salmon spawning in
Alaska and how many days till X-mas.

Dave

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Jay:

   From past experience, "Named Users" refers to the users of the
application, meaning for you the 911 operators.  In the past, "users"
referred to connections to the database.  Thus an application may only have
one user but several thousand connections.  We had this problem when
implementing CICS for Oracle on the mainframe.  Even Tuxedo on client/server
has this issue.  These transaction monitors act as gates to the Oracle
world.  We had to price average usage amount to accommodate our Oracle
licensing.

   Hope this helps.

Thank You

Stephen P. Karniotis
Technical Alliance Manager
Compuware Corporation
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 -Original Message-
Sent:   Wednesday, February 20, 2002 2:29 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

  In our latest discussions with Oracle, it is my understanding that there
is the Named user license and the CPU license.  CPU allows an unlimited
number of users.  Named has a limited number of users.  Now, it has always
been my personal experience that nobody really knows what a user is.  Ask 10
different Oracle personnel what a "user" is, and you will get 10 different
answers.
  For example, we support a 911 center.  An Oracle-based application
displays the caller's information on a screen to the call taker.  If you
look in our database, you will see one user - it is the connection made by
the software that displays the caller's info.  The app maintains one
connection and displays the data on the appropriate screen.  Oracle is
trying to tell us the the 911 callers are the "users". Give me a break!  At
best, the call takers might be the users.
  Apparently there are (or were) Term licenses also.  See
http://www.computerworld.com/storyba/0,4125,NAV47_STO61415,00.html
  Rest assured - as soon as you figure it out, they will change it.

Jay

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/20/02 12:30PM >>>
Adary - Wow that is not good! Has anyone else encountered this situation?
Does the licensing fee have a name? Any indication if it differs between US
and non-US licensing?
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:58 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hello Dennis

We operate here on a site license that cover our internal users and servers.
About a month ago we talked with oracle about a database that will be
connected to
our internet site.
They come back and said that we need a separate license for this and our
regular site
license cover only INTERNAL use.
You need a separate license if you use the DB VIA internet.
I do not know if it is named or CPU or whatever.

Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

> -Original Message-
> From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wed, February 20, 2002 3:43 PM
> To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject:  RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users
> 
> Can anyone provide more details on "Web licensing"? I asked our manager
> that
> negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU
> (formerly UPU) licensing for unlimited users. I checked at Oraclestore,
> and
> it only shows Named and Processor licensing. If we are missing something,
> I
> would like to avoid a nasty licensing surprise.
> Dennis Williams
> DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 


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RE: Dropping table space where name is lower case

2002-02-20 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

Darren,

did you try   

drop tablespace "spatial";<=== including the double quotes

at least this works when tables are created with lower case letters.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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I am unable to drop a tablespace that I created.

I created the tablespace with a lower case name, when I do a select * from
dba_tablespaces the name
is lowercase as opposed to uppercase.

When I "drop tablespace spatial"  oracle gives the following error message :

ORA-00959: tablespace 'SPATIAL' does not exist

This is oracle 8.1.7.2.?

Thanks

Darren


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Re: how to kill Distributed transaction

2002-02-20 Thread DBarbour


Do you have a transaction hanging on another database?  Any entries in any
of the alert logs for the participants?

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Hi,

We have 1 transaction hanging even if we restart the database.
there is 1 entry in table  dba_2pc_pending and
2 entries in dba_2pc_neighbours...

How to release this transaction

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RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Whittle Jerome Contr NCI

More likely how close Uncle Larry is to Bill Gates in the World's Richest Man contest.

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RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Steve McClure

Actually this came up during our license evaluation as well.  We tried to go
with named users, but there was a catch.  We process transactions from a
sort of clearinghouse.  That clearinghouse is a single network connection,
and we process transactions with a small number of Oracle sessions.  From my
perspective, we had 5 sessions performing OLTP from a single source.  From
Oracle's perspective a user has to be determined in the "broadest scope
possible" (That is straight from the license agreement).  The result was
that since our clearinghouse was intermittently connected to 50,000
pharmacies, we would require over 50,000 named users.


Steve McClure

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I don't think it was Oracle telling you that, it was the sales guy trying to
get his vacation paid for

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  In our latest discussions with Oracle, it is my understanding that there
is the Named user license and the CPU license.  CPU allows an unlimited
number of users.  Named has a limited number of users.  Now, it has always
been my personal experience that nobody really knows what a user is.  Ask 10
different Oracle personnel what a "user" is, and you will get 10 different
answers.
  For example, we support a 911 center.  An Oracle-based application
displays the caller's information on a screen to the call taker.  If you
look in our database, you will see one user - it is the connection made by
the software that displays the caller's info.  The app maintains one
connection and displays the data on the appropriate screen.  Oracle is
trying to tell us the the 911 callers are the "users". Give me a break!  At
best, the call takers might be the users.
  Apparently there are (or were) Term licenses also.  See
http://www.computerworld.com/storyba/0,4125,NAV47_STO61415,00.html
  Rest assured - as soon as you figure it out, they will change it.

Jay

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Hello Dennis

We operate here on a site license that cover our internal users and servers.
About a month ago we talked with oracle about a database that will be
connected to
our internet site.
They come back and said that we need a separate license for this and our
regular site
license cover only INTERNAL use.
You need a separate license if you use the DB VIA internet.
I do not know if it is named or CPU or whatever.

Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
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> Can anyone provide more details on "Web licensing"? I asked our manager
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> negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU
> (formerly UPU) licensing for unlimited users. I checked at Oraclestore,
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> it only shows Named and Processor licensing. If we are missing something,
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RE: Dropping table space where name is lower case

2002-02-20 Thread michaelcupp
Title: RE: Dropping table space where name is lower case





Put the tablespace name in quotes.


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Subject: Dropping table space where name is lower case



I am unable to drop a tablespace that I created.


I created the tablespace with a lower case name, when I do a select * from dba_tablespaces the name is lowercase as opposed to uppercase.

When I "drop tablespace spatial"  oracle gives the following error message :


ORA-00959: tablespace 'SPATIAL' does not exist


This is oracle 8.1.7.2.?


Thanks


Darren



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Re: Dropping table space where name is lower case

2002-02-20 Thread Pat Hildebrand

try putting double quotes around the name of the tablespace

  Pat

> 
> I am unable to drop a tablespace that I created.
> 
> I created the tablespace with a lower case name, when I do a select * from
> dba_tablespaces the name
> is lowercase as opposed to uppercase.
> 
> When I "drop tablespace spatial"  oracle gives the following error message :
> 
> ORA-00959: tablespace 'SPATIAL' does not exist
> 
> This is oracle 8.1.7.2.?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Darren
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Re: Dropping table space where name is lower case

2002-02-20 Thread Scott Canaan

Put the tablespace name in double quotes:

drop tablespace "spatial";

"Browett, Darren" wrote:

> I am unable to drop a tablespace that I created.
>
> I created the tablespace with a lower case name, when I do a select * from
> dba_tablespaces the name
> is lowercase as opposed to uppercase.
>
> When I "drop tablespace spatial"  oracle gives the following error message :
>
> ORA-00959: tablespace 'SPATIAL' does not exist
>
> This is oracle 8.1.7.2.?
>
> Thanks
>
> Darren
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RE: Dropping table space where name is lower case

2002-02-20 Thread Mark Leith

Darren,

Have you tried this *exact* syntax:

drop tablespace "spatial" 

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I am unable to drop a tablespace that I created.

I created the tablespace with a lower case name, when I do a select * from
dba_tablespaces the name
is lowercase as opposed to uppercase.

When I "drop tablespace spatial"  oracle gives the following error message :

ORA-00959: tablespace 'SPATIAL' does not exist

This is oracle 8.1.7.2.?

Thanks

Darren


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Re: Dropping table space where name is lower case

2002-02-20 Thread Igor Neyman

Darren,

You should use quotes:

drop tablespace "spatial";

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> I am unable to drop a tablespace that I created.
>
> I created the tablespace with a lower case name, when I do a select * from
> dba_tablespaces the name
> is lowercase as opposed to uppercase.
>
> When I "drop tablespace spatial"  oracle gives the following error message
:
>
> ORA-00959: tablespace 'SPATIAL' does not exist
>
> This is oracle 8.1.7.2.?
>
> Thanks
>
> Darren
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Re: Solaris Kernel Memory Parameters Recommendations?

2002-02-20 Thread Suzy Vordos


Details about semaphores & shared memory and how to calculate those
values was once published in SunWorld Online, but the links I have are
no longer valid.  Based on the info in those docs, here's what I
derived

Suzy

* --
* Semaphores/Shared Memory for ORACLE
* --
* shmmax = max size per shared memory segment
* shmmin = min size per shared memory segment
* shmmni = max num shared memory identifiers
* shmseg = max num shared memory segments per process
* semmns = max num semaphores system wide (=semmni*semmsl)
* semmni = max num semaphore sets system wide (=semmnu)
* semmsl = max num semaphores per semaphore set (=semopm)
* semmnu = max num sempahore undo structures (=semmni)
* semmap = max entries per semaphore map (=semmni*semmsl)
* semopm = max operations per semop call (=semmsl)
* semume = max undo entries per process
* semvmx = max value of a semaphore (cannot be > 32767)

forceload: sys/shmsys
forceload: sys/semsys

set shmsys:shminfo_shmmax=4294967295
set shmsys:shminfo_shmmin=1
set shmsys:shminfo_shmmni=100
set shmsys:shminfo_shmseg=10

set semsys:seminfo_semmns=4000
set semsys:seminfo_semmni=40
set semsys:seminfo_semmsl=100
set semsys:seminfo_semmnu=40
set semsys:seminfo_semmap=4000
set semsys:seminfo_semopm=100
set semsys:seminfo_semume=100
set semsys:seminfo_semvmx=32767


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> I've read a couple of brief passages about setting the kernel memory
> parameters in UNIX that are required for an Oracle installation.  The
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> brief at best and somewhat confusing for a non-UNIX-sys admin. like
> myself.  Would some of you more experienced UNIX/Oracle DBAs please
> provide a plain English explanation describing your strategy in setting
> the following 7 parameters in the /etc/system file:
> 
> SEMMNI
> SEMMNS
> SEMMSL
> SHMMAX
> SHMMIN
> SHMMNI
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Re:RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread dgoulet

Chris,

From Oracle's store site:

Named User: is defined as an individual authorized by you to use the programs
which are installed on a single server or multiple servers, regardless of
whether the individual is actively using the programs at any given time. A non
human operated device will be counted as a Named User in addition to all
individuals authorized to use the programs, if such devices can access the
programs. If multiplexing hardware or software (e.g., a TP monitor or a web
server product) is used, this number must be measured at the multiplexing front
end. 

Now with your 911 center, if your using a backend processor to refresh the
screens then all of your screens are in fact users.  I know, kind of overkill,
but we've had to count each and every bar code scanner we had on the assembly
line as each one is a "user".  End result, we went with CPU licensing.  Fewer
items to count (CPU's) and ended up cheaper as well.

Nothing like the bear taking a large hunk out of your back side!  OH, that
HURTS!

Dick Goulet

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I don't think it was Oracle telling you that, it was the sales guy trying to
get his vacation paid for

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  In our latest discussions with Oracle, it is my understanding that there
is the Named user license and the CPU license.  CPU allows an unlimited
number of users.  Named has a limited number of users.  Now, it has always
been my personal experience that nobody really knows what a user is.  Ask 10
different Oracle personnel what a "user" is, and you will get 10 different
answers.
  For example, we support a 911 center.  An Oracle-based application
displays the caller's information on a screen to the call taker.  If you
look in our database, you will see one user - it is the connection made by
the software that displays the caller's info.  The app maintains one
connection and displays the data on the appropriate screen.  Oracle is
trying to tell us the the 911 callers are the "users". Give me a break!  At
best, the call takers might be the users.
  Apparently there are (or were) Term licenses also.  See
http://www.computerworld.com/storyba/0,4125,NAV47_STO61415,00.html
  Rest assured - as soon as you figure it out, they will change it.

Jay

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Adary - Wow that is not good! Has anyone else encountered this situation?
Does the licensing fee have a name? Any indication if it differs between US
and non-US licensing?
Dennis Williams
DBA
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Hello Dennis

We operate here on a site license that cover our internal users and servers.
About a month ago we talked with oracle about a database that will be
connected to
our internet site.
They come back and said that we need a separate license for this and our
regular site
license cover only INTERNAL use.
You need a separate license if you use the DB VIA internet.
I do not know if it is named or CPU or whatever.

Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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> Sent: Wed, February 20, 2002 3:43 PM
> To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject:  RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users
> 
> Can anyone provide more details on "Web licensing"? I asked our manager
> that
> negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU
> (formerly UPU) licensing for unlimited users. I checked at Oraclestore,
> and
> it only shows Named and Processor licensing. If we are missing something,
> I
> would like to avoid a nasty licensing surprise.
> Dennis Williams
> DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 


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Re: Dropping table space where name is lower case

2002-02-20 Thread Dennis M. Heisler

Put double quotes around it... drop tablespace "spatial"


"Browett, Darren" wrote:
> 
> I am unable to drop a tablespace that I created.
> 
> I created the tablespace with a lower case name, when I do a select * from
> dba_tablespaces the name
> is lowercase as opposed to uppercase.
> 
> When I "drop tablespace spatial"  oracle gives the following error message :
> 
> ORA-00959: tablespace 'SPATIAL' does not exist
> 
> This is oracle 8.1.7.2.?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Darren
> 
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RE: Dropping table space where name is lower case

2002-02-20 Thread Khedr, Waleed


Try: drop tablespace "spatial"


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I am unable to drop a tablespace that I created.

I created the tablespace with a lower case name, when I do a select * from
dba_tablespaces the name
is lowercase as opposed to uppercase.

When I "drop tablespace spatial"  oracle gives the following error message :

ORA-00959: tablespace 'SPATIAL' does not exist

This is oracle 8.1.7.2.?

Thanks

Darren


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RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Kevin Lange

Can you immagine  living in a city of 1.6 million . you would have
to have 1.6 million licenses because each one of you is a potential caller
of 911   Not even Oracle is THAT greedy.

Think, user = software user. i.e. the call takers, not the call makers.



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I don't think it was Oracle telling you that, it was the sales guy trying to
get his vacation paid for

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Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 2:29 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


  In our latest discussions with Oracle, it is my understanding that there
is the Named user license and the CPU license.  CPU allows an unlimited
number of users.  Named has a limited number of users.  Now, it has always
been my personal experience that nobody really knows what a user is.  Ask 10
different Oracle personnel what a "user" is, and you will get 10 different
answers.
  For example, we support a 911 center.  An Oracle-based application
displays the caller's information on a screen to the call taker.  If you
look in our database, you will see one user - it is the connection made by
the software that displays the caller's info.  The app maintains one
connection and displays the data on the appropriate screen.  Oracle is
trying to tell us the the 911 callers are the "users". Give me a break!  At
best, the call takers might be the users.
  Apparently there are (or were) Term licenses also.  See
http://www.computerworld.com/storyba/0,4125,NAV47_STO61415,00.html
  Rest assured - as soon as you figure it out, they will change it.

Jay

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/20/02 12:30PM >>>
Adary - Wow that is not good! Has anyone else encountered this situation?
Does the licensing fee have a name? Any indication if it differs between US
and non-US licensing?
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:58 AM
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Hello Dennis

We operate here on a site license that cover our internal users and servers.
About a month ago we talked with oracle about a database that will be
connected to
our internet site.
They come back and said that we need a separate license for this and our
regular site
license cover only INTERNAL use.
You need a separate license if you use the DB VIA internet.
I do not know if it is named or CPU or whatever.

Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

> -Original Message-
> From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wed, February 20, 2002 3:43 PM
> To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject:  RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users
> 
> Can anyone provide more details on "Web licensing"? I asked our manager
> that
> negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU
> (formerly UPU) licensing for unlimited users. I checked at Oraclestore,
> and
> it only shows Named and Processor licensing. If we are missing something,
> I
> would like to avoid a nasty licensing surprise.
> Dennis Williams
> DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 


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RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Farnsworth, Dave

>From following this thread on Oracles pricing scheme I think it is dependent on the 
>day of the week, the phase of the moon, the number of salmon spawning in Alaska and 
>how many days till X-mas.

Dave

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Jay:

   From past experience, "Named Users" refers to the users of the
application, meaning for you the 911 operators.  In the past, "users"
referred to connections to the database.  Thus an application may only have
one user but several thousand connections.  We had this problem when
implementing CICS for Oracle on the mainframe.  Even Tuxedo on client/server
has this issue.  These transaction monitors act as gates to the Oracle
world.  We had to price average usage amount to accommodate our Oracle
licensing.

   Hope this helps.

Thank You

Stephen P. Karniotis
Technical Alliance Manager
Compuware Corporation
Direct: (248) 865-4350
Mobile: (248) 408-2918
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web:www.compuware.com


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Sent:   Wednesday, February 20, 2002 2:29 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject:RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

  In our latest discussions with Oracle, it is my understanding that there
is the Named user license and the CPU license.  CPU allows an unlimited
number of users.  Named has a limited number of users.  Now, it has always
been my personal experience that nobody really knows what a user is.  Ask 10
different Oracle personnel what a "user" is, and you will get 10 different
answers.
  For example, we support a 911 center.  An Oracle-based application
displays the caller's information on a screen to the call taker.  If you
look in our database, you will see one user - it is the connection made by
the software that displays the caller's info.  The app maintains one
connection and displays the data on the appropriate screen.  Oracle is
trying to tell us the the 911 callers are the "users". Give me a break!  At
best, the call takers might be the users.
  Apparently there are (or were) Term licenses also.  See
http://www.computerworld.com/storyba/0,4125,NAV47_STO61415,00.html
  Rest assured - as soon as you figure it out, they will change it.

Jay

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/20/02 12:30PM >>>
Adary - Wow that is not good! Has anyone else encountered this situation?
Does the licensing fee have a name? Any indication if it differs between US
and non-US licensing?
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:58 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hello Dennis

We operate here on a site license that cover our internal users and servers.
About a month ago we talked with oracle about a database that will be
connected to
our internet site.
They come back and said that we need a separate license for this and our
regular site
license cover only INTERNAL use.
You need a separate license if you use the DB VIA internet.
I do not know if it is named or CPU or whatever.

Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

> -Original Message-
> From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wed, February 20, 2002 3:43 PM
> To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject:  RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users
> 
> Can anyone provide more details on "Web licensing"? I asked our manager
> that
> negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU
> (formerly UPU) licensing for unlimited users. I checked at Oraclestore,
> and
> it only shows Named and Processor licensing. If we are missing something,
> I
> would like to avoid a nasty licensing surprise.
> Dennis Williams
> DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 


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Dropping table space where name is lower case

2002-02-20 Thread Browett, Darren

I am unable to drop a tablespace that I created.

I created the tablespace with a lower case name, when I do a select * from
dba_tablespaces the name
is lowercase as opposed to uppercase.

When I "drop tablespace spatial"  oracle gives the following error message :

ORA-00959: tablespace 'SPATIAL' does not exist

This is oracle 8.1.7.2.?

Thanks

Darren


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RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread michaelcupp
Title: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users





Maybe it has something to do with whether you post your data to an internet or intranet site.  ??


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Our Oracle rep fully understood that our DB is accessed via our intranet, a large third party network, and the internet.  We were only required to purchase CPU based licensing.  There was no additional "Web" licensing fee. After reading this, I am concerned they will be back to discuss more fees.

Steve McClure


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Adary - Wow that is not good! Has anyone else encountered this situation? Does the licensing fee have a name? Any indication if it differs between US and non-US licensing? Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Hello Dennis


We operate here on a site license that cover our internal users and servers. About a month ago we talked with oracle about a database that will be connected to our internet site. They come back and said that we need a separate license for this and our regular site license cover only INTERNAL use. You need a separate license if you use the DB VIA internet. I do not know if it is named or CPU or whatever.

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RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Grabowy, Chris

I don't think it was Oracle telling you that, it was the sales guy trying to
get his vacation paid for

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  In our latest discussions with Oracle, it is my understanding that there
is the Named user license and the CPU license.  CPU allows an unlimited
number of users.  Named has a limited number of users.  Now, it has always
been my personal experience that nobody really knows what a user is.  Ask 10
different Oracle personnel what a "user" is, and you will get 10 different
answers.
  For example, we support a 911 center.  An Oracle-based application
displays the caller's information on a screen to the call taker.  If you
look in our database, you will see one user - it is the connection made by
the software that displays the caller's info.  The app maintains one
connection and displays the data on the appropriate screen.  Oracle is
trying to tell us the the 911 callers are the "users". Give me a break!  At
best, the call takers might be the users.
  Apparently there are (or were) Term licenses also.  See
http://www.computerworld.com/storyba/0,4125,NAV47_STO61415,00.html
  Rest assured - as soon as you figure it out, they will change it.

Jay

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/20/02 12:30PM >>>
Adary - Wow that is not good! Has anyone else encountered this situation?
Does the licensing fee have a name? Any indication if it differs between US
and non-US licensing?
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:58 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hello Dennis

We operate here on a site license that cover our internal users and servers.
About a month ago we talked with oracle about a database that will be
connected to
our internet site.
They come back and said that we need a separate license for this and our
regular site
license cover only INTERNAL use.
You need a separate license if you use the DB VIA internet.
I do not know if it is named or CPU or whatever.

Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

> -Original Message-
> From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wed, February 20, 2002 3:43 PM
> To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject:  RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users
> 
> Can anyone provide more details on "Web licensing"? I asked our manager
> that
> negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU
> (formerly UPU) licensing for unlimited users. I checked at Oraclestore,
> and
> it only shows Named and Processor licensing. If we are missing something,
> I
> would like to avoid a nasty licensing surprise.
> Dennis Williams
> DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 


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RE: A question for people who also know Sybase

2002-02-20 Thread Bala, Prakash

Jared, I tried the first 3 and didn't get any answer. Since we are an Oracle
shop and not a Sybase shop, we don't have any Sybase support. So I posted
here because somebody would have used Oracle Transparent Gateway with
Sybase.

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Ok, this really is an Oracle list, believe it or not.

Why not?:

a) do a google search
b) join a sybase list
c) hit the sybase tech support site
d) file a support request with sybase.

Jared





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Subject:A question for people who also know Sybase


Hi,

Oracle 8.1.7.2 and Sybase 12.0 client on Solaris 2.8

We are trying to access 7 remote Sybase databases (all on NT) using a 
Sybase
client (Adaptive Server Enterprise 12.0) installed on Solaris.

Have converted the IP addresses and the port numbers to Hexadecimal and 
have
made the necessary changes to the 'interfaces' file on our Unix box. 

We are able to successfully connect to 5 databases and retrieve data using
isql. But we get the following error for the remaining 2 sites when I 
issue
the isql command:

CT-LIBRARY error:
ct_connect(): network packet layer: internal net library error: Net-Lib
protocol driver call to connect two endpoints failed

We are able to ping these 2 servers and also do the 'traceroute'
successfully.

Also, I am able to connect to these 2 locations using the Sybase client on
my workstation. This verifies that the IP address, port#, user-id and
password are correct.

Just the connection through Unix fails and have to make this work so that
our Oracle database can talk to Sybase using the Oracle Gateway. Oracle
Gateway is able to retrieve data from the remaining 5 Sybase servers.


TIA!

Prakash



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How to remove java from 8.1.6 on NT 4.0?

2002-02-20 Thread Rick_Cale

Hi All,

How to remove java from 8.1.6 on NT 4.0? I do not have a file rmjava.sql or
anything like it. MetaLink says this is the file to use to remove it.
Can someone clarify on how to remove java?

Thanks
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RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Karniotis, Stephen

Jay:

   From past experience, "Named Users" refers to the users of the
application, meaning for you the 911 operators.  In the past, "users"
referred to connections to the database.  Thus an application may only have
one user but several thousand connections.  We had this problem when
implementing CICS for Oracle on the mainframe.  Even Tuxedo on client/server
has this issue.  These transaction monitors act as gates to the Oracle
world.  We had to price average usage amount to accommodate our Oracle
licensing.

   Hope this helps.

Thank You

Stephen P. Karniotis
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Compuware Corporation
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject:RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

  In our latest discussions with Oracle, it is my understanding that there
is the Named user license and the CPU license.  CPU allows an unlimited
number of users.  Named has a limited number of users.  Now, it has always
been my personal experience that nobody really knows what a user is.  Ask 10
different Oracle personnel what a "user" is, and you will get 10 different
answers.
  For example, we support a 911 center.  An Oracle-based application
displays the caller's information on a screen to the call taker.  If you
look in our database, you will see one user - it is the connection made by
the software that displays the caller's info.  The app maintains one
connection and displays the data on the appropriate screen.  Oracle is
trying to tell us the the 911 callers are the "users". Give me a break!  At
best, the call takers might be the users.
  Apparently there are (or were) Term licenses also.  See
http://www.computerworld.com/storyba/0,4125,NAV47_STO61415,00.html
  Rest assured - as soon as you figure it out, they will change it.

Jay

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/20/02 12:30PM >>>
Adary - Wow that is not good! Has anyone else encountered this situation?
Does the licensing fee have a name? Any indication if it differs between US
and non-US licensing?
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:58 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hello Dennis

We operate here on a site license that cover our internal users and servers.
About a month ago we talked with oracle about a database that will be
connected to
our internet site.
They come back and said that we need a separate license for this and our
regular site
license cover only INTERNAL use.
You need a separate license if you use the DB VIA internet.
I do not know if it is named or CPU or whatever.

Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

> -Original Message-
> From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wed, February 20, 2002 3:43 PM
> To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject:  RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users
> 
> Can anyone provide more details on "Web licensing"? I asked our manager
> that
> negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU
> (formerly UPU) licensing for unlimited users. I checked at Oraclestore,
> and
> it only shows Named and Processor licensing. If we are missing something,
> I
> would like to avoid a nasty licensing surprise.
> Dennis Williams
> DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 


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RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Jared . Still

There are only 2 license types:  named user and CPU.

There isn't any 'web' licensing.

Oracle will require you to purchase the CPU license for systems that:

1) are on the internet
2) on the intranet, unless all employees are covered under a site license
3) feed other database systems
4) subject to interpretation of your local sales critter, and highly 
dependant
on the size of their boat payment.

Jared





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Our Oracle rep fully understood that our DB is accessed via our intranet, 
a
large third party network, and the internet.  We were only required to
purchase CPU based licensing.  There was no additional "Web" licensing 
fee.
After reading this, I am concerned they will be back to discuss more fees.

Steve McClure

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Adary - Wow that is not good! Has anyone else encountered this situation?
Does the licensing fee have a name? Any indication if it differs between 
US
and non-US licensing?
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Hello Dennis

We operate here on a site license that cover our internal users and 
servers.
About a month ago we talked with oracle about a database that will be
connected to
our internet site.
They come back and said that we need a separate license for this and our
regular site
license cover only INTERNAL use.
You need a separate license if you use the DB VIA internet.
I do not know if it is named or CPU or whatever.

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RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Jay Hostetter

  In our latest discussions with Oracle, it is my understanding that there is the 
Named user license and the CPU license.  CPU allows an unlimited number of users.  
Named has a limited number of users.  Now, it has always been my personal experience 
that nobody really knows what a user is.  Ask 10 different Oracle personnel what a 
"user" is, and you will get 10 different answers.
  For example, we support a 911 center.  An Oracle-based application displays the 
caller's information on a screen to the call taker.  If you look in our database, you 
will see one user - it is the connection made by the software that displays the 
caller's info.  The app maintains one connection and displays the data on the 
appropriate screen.  Oracle is trying to tell us the the 911 callers are the "users". 
Give me a break!  At best, the call takers might be the users.
  Apparently there are (or were) Term licenses also.  See 
http://www.computerworld.com/storyba/0,4125,NAV47_STO61415,00.html
  Rest assured - as soon as you figure it out, they will change it.

Jay

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/20/02 12:30PM >>>
Adary - Wow that is not good! Has anyone else encountered this situation?
Does the licensing fee have a name? Any indication if it differs between US
and non-US licensing?
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:58 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hello Dennis

We operate here on a site license that cover our internal users and servers.
About a month ago we talked with oracle about a database that will be
connected to
our internet site.
They come back and said that we need a separate license for this and our
regular site
license cover only INTERNAL use.
You need a separate license if you use the DB VIA internet.
I do not know if it is named or CPU or whatever.

Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

> -Original Message-
> From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wed, February 20, 2002 3:43 PM
> To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject:  RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users
> 
> Can anyone provide more details on "Web licensing"? I asked our manager
> that
> negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU
> (formerly UPU) licensing for unlimited users. I checked at Oraclestore,
> and
> it only shows Named and Processor licensing. If we are missing something,
> I
> would like to avoid a nasty licensing surprise.
> Dennis Williams
> DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 


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Re: A question for people who also know Sybase

2002-02-20 Thread Jared . Still

Ok, this really is an Oracle list, believe it or not.

Why not?:

a) do a google search
b) join a sybase list
c) hit the sybase tech support site
d) file a support request with sybase.

Jared





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Hi,

Oracle 8.1.7.2 and Sybase 12.0 client on Solaris 2.8

We are trying to access 7 remote Sybase databases (all on NT) using a 
Sybase
client (Adaptive Server Enterprise 12.0) installed on Solaris.

Have converted the IP addresses and the port numbers to Hexadecimal and 
have
made the necessary changes to the 'interfaces' file on our Unix box. 

We are able to successfully connect to 5 databases and retrieve data using
isql. But we get the following error for the remaining 2 sites when I 
issue
the isql command:

CT-LIBRARY error:
ct_connect(): network packet layer: internal net library error: Net-Lib
protocol driver call to connect two endpoints failed

We are able to ping these 2 servers and also do the 'traceroute'
successfully.

Also, I am able to connect to these 2 locations using the Sybase client on
my workstation. This verifies that the IP address, port#, user-id and
password are correct.

Just the connection through Unix fails and have to make this work so that
our Oracle database can talk to Sybase using the Oracle Gateway. Oracle
Gateway is able to retrieve data from the remaining 5 Sybase servers.


TIA!

Prakash



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RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Steve McClure

Our Oracle rep fully understood that our DB is accessed via our intranet, a
large third party network, and the internet.  We were only required to
purchase CPU based licensing.  There was no additional "Web" licensing fee.
After reading this, I am concerned they will be back to discuss more fees.

Steve McClure

-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:30 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Adary - Wow that is not good! Has anyone else encountered this situation?
Does the licensing fee have a name? Any indication if it differs between US
and non-US licensing?
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:58 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hello Dennis

We operate here on a site license that cover our internal users and servers.
About a month ago we talked with oracle about a database that will be
connected to
our internet site.
They come back and said that we need a separate license for this and our
regular site
license cover only INTERNAL use.
You need a separate license if you use the DB VIA internet.
I do not know if it is named or CPU or whatever.

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how to kill Distributed transaction

2002-02-20 Thread Harvinder Singh

Hi,

We have 1 transaction hanging even if we restart the database.
there is 1 entry in table  dba_2pc_pending and
2 entries in dba_2pc_neighbours...

How to release this transaction

Thanks
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RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Adary - Wow that is not good! Has anyone else encountered this situation?
Does the licensing fee have a name? Any indication if it differs between US
and non-US licensing?
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:58 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hello Dennis

We operate here on a site license that cover our internal users and servers.
About a month ago we talked with oracle about a database that will be
connected to
our internet site.
They come back and said that we need a separate license for this and our
regular site
license cover only INTERNAL use.
You need a separate license if you use the DB VIA internet.
I do not know if it is named or CPU or whatever.

Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -Original Message-
> From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wed, February 20, 2002 3:43 PM
> To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject:  RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users
> 
> Can anyone provide more details on "Web licensing"? I asked our manager
> that
> negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU
> (formerly UPU) licensing for unlimited users. I checked at Oraclestore,
> and
> it only shows Named and Processor licensing. If we are missing something,
> I
> would like to avoid a nasty licensing surprise.
> Dennis Williams
> DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 4:38 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> Web Licensing means that you use the DB for applications that are accessed
> through the internet,
> NOT INTRANET.
> 
> Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From:   DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent:   Wed, February 20, 2002 12:08 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject:RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users
> > 
> > Rachel - By Web license, do you mean the unlimited-user CPU-based
> > licensing?
> > Thanks.
> > Dennis Williams
> > DBA
> > Lifetouch, Inc.
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:05 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > 
> > 
> > you need to be careful if you are also using databases whose contents
> > appear on the web, as Oracle will want you to use a web license
> > (extremely expensive) even if the data is not directly accessed but
> > appears on the web in static pages generated from the Oracle database.
> > 
> > 
> > --- Stephane Faroult <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > "Smith, Ron L." wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > We have been asked to gather statistics on the number of clients
> > > using
> > > > Oracle.  This is being done to determine if we have sufficient
> > > licensing.
> > > > We have about 100 instances to monitor.
> > > > 
> > > > Has anyone done this?  Any ideas on what "Concurrent users" might
> > > mean to
> > > > the majority of people?
> > > > 
> > > > We have both Oracle 7 and Oracle 8.
> > > > 
> > > > Ron Smith
> > > > DBA
> > > > Kerr-McGee Corp
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Well, I have just been working on this for one of my customers last
> > > week. The obvious thing is to query V$SESSION at regular intervals
> > > (dbms_job can help) and what you can do is store the result through a
> > > database link to a single instance. Where it was tricky was that we
> > > wanted to identify 'system' processes (easy, except that job
> > > processes
> > > are marked as 'USER', which is debatable), and (that's where the snag
> > > is) processes which are the results of a connection through a
> > > database
> > > link. The logic is that a database link is initiated by a 'normal'
> > > connection - for which the full-blown licence is already paid. So
> > > they
> > > should not exactly count as much as regular connection; and if this
> > > is
> > > not a good argument, then it is probably possible to reduce their
> > > number
> > > by shifting around applications. Ultimately we could apply Larry's
> > > favorite concept of 'single instance' (anyway I have always found DB
> > > links messy).
> > > My trouble was that nothing, but human knowledge, can tell whether
> > > the
> > > connection comes from a database link or is genuine (if somebody has
> > > a
> > > way, please share !). All the user information (machine, program,
> > > module, action ...) comes from the initial connection and is
> > > propagated.
> > > I have solved this (not fully satisfactorily) by having a table
> > > automatically inserted with unknown (machine, program) pairs and
> > > manually updated to say 'If we see this program on this database,
> > > then
> > > it comes from a database link' - or 'anything coming from this
> > > machine
> > > must come from a database link'. Added something for connection from
> > > HTTP servers, although I doubt that those will be spon

RE: (no subject)

2002-02-20 Thread JoJo Al-Zawawi



One more 
thing about the script I sent -- that was for 8i, 
not 9i, so check it out in that respect, as 
well.
 
Cheers,
JoJo
 


A question for people who also know Sybase

2002-02-20 Thread Bala, Prakash

Hi,

Oracle 8.1.7.2 and Sybase 12.0 client on Solaris 2.8

We are trying to access 7 remote Sybase databases (all on NT) using a Sybase
client (Adaptive Server Enterprise 12.0) installed on Solaris.

Have converted the IP addresses and the port numbers to Hexadecimal and have
made the necessary changes to the 'interfaces' file on our Unix box. 

We are able to successfully connect to 5 databases and retrieve data using
isql. But we get the following error for the remaining 2 sites when I issue
the isql command:

CT-LIBRARY error:
ct_connect(): network packet layer: internal net library error: Net-Lib
protocol driver call to connect two endpoints failed

We are able to ping these 2 servers and also do the 'traceroute'
successfully.

Also, I am able to connect to these 2 locations using the Sybase client on
my workstation. This verifies that the IP address, port#, user-id and
password are correct.

Just the connection through Unix fails and have to make this work so that
our Oracle database can talk to Sybase using the Oracle Gateway. Oracle
Gateway is able to retrieve data from the remaining 5 Sybase servers.


TIA!

Prakash



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RE: (no subject)

2002-02-20 Thread JoJo Al-Zawawi



I'm also a brand new 
student of Oracle.  The EXACT same thing happened to me in class a couple 
of weeks ago when I created a 2nd database.
 
The reason it 
happened was that I didn't create the DB all in one day...and when I went in on 
the 2nd day to finish it, I did not startup the 2nd database before 
continuing to run the scripts, etc.  So, the default database started and 
then some of the commands/scripts actually modified the default database's 
control files, etc.  It was a real mess.  We couldn't mount to delete 
certain files, yet we couldn't delete certain files in nomount, etc.  The 
teacher had me run the attached script, and that fixed it.  And I learned 
some more lessons, hahaha!
 
I don't know if this 
is what happened to you, but since your situation is EXACTLY like mine, error 
messages, etc., I would suspect this.  So check out the attached script and 
maybe it'll help.
 
You'll have to 
modify the .sql file to replace with your database names.  In the existing 
file, "will" is the default database and "test" is the database I was 
creating.  Check through and fix up filenames, paths, 
etc.
 
--JoJo
 
 
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Wednesday, February 20, 2002 7:54 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: (no subject)I'm a 
student dba'r running 9i on windows xp.  I have created a second database 
(database name=bill, instance name = bill).  After I first created it, I 
tried to mount it after shutting down the installation seed  database 
(database name = orcl, instance name = orcl).  I kept getting the message 
'cannot mount database in exclusive mode'.  After several attempts to get 
out of exclusive mode, I gave up.  The next night, without making any 
changes,  I tried again and this time I was sucessful in mounting the bill 
database.  I created a data tablespace (data) and  four tables which I 
populated.  Then  I queried the database name from v$database and got 
the response 'bill'.  Next I queried the instance name from v$instance and 
got 'orcl' when I should have gotten 'bill'.  I double checked the database 
name and again got 'bill'.&nbs! ! p; How can this be?  But the real 
problem is that when I tried to mount the database bill again tonight, I again 
got the message ''cannot mount database in exclusive mode'.  I can't find 
an explanation for this in the book.  I tried to startup nomount using the 
'bill' pfile which showed an idel instance started. Then I tried to issue the 
alter database mount parallel command but it comes back with the 'cannot mount 
database in exclusive mode'.  When I then query the instance_name from 
v$instance I get orcl instead of bill.  Can any one help me 
out?Thanks!Bill Johnson


CONTROL.SQL
Description: Binary data


Re: Rollback Segments

2002-02-20 Thread Anjo Kolk

Thanks.
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re: student dba'r running 9i on windows xp

2002-02-20 Thread tday6

What's your ORACLE_SID set to?  Did you add your new database to your
listener?  You didn't say how you created the second database.



   

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I'm a student dba'r running 9i on windows xp.  I have created a second
database (database name=bill, instance name = bill).  After I first created
it, I tried to mount it after shutting down the installation seed  database
(database name = orcl, instance name = orcl).  I kept getting the message
'cannot mount database in exclusive mode'.  After several attempts to get
out of exclusive mode, I gave up.  The next night, without making any
changes,  I tried again and this time I was sucessful in mounting the bill
database.  I created a data tablespace (data) and  four tables which I
populated.  Then  I queried the database name from v$database and got the
response 'bill'.  Next I queried the instance name from v$instance and got
'orcl' when I should have gotten 'bill'.  I double checked the database
name and again got 'bill'.&nbs! ! p; How can this be?  But the real problem
is that when I tried to mount the database bill again tonight, I again got
the message ''cannot mount database in exclusive mode'.  I can't find an
explanation for this in the book.  I tried to startup nomount using the
'bill' pfile which showed an idel instance started. Then I tried to issue
the alter database mount parallel command but it comes back with the
'cannot mount database in exclusive mode'.  When I then query the
instance_name from v$instance I get orcl instead of bill.  Can any one help
me out?
Thanks!
Bill Johnson



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Off topic - once in a life time

2002-02-20 Thread אדר יחיאל

Hello All

An interesting date / time combination I got from SAG-L.

SAG-Lers,

Pardon this off-topic posting, but I know some of you might find this
interesting.

Depending on how you display date and time, there will be a time today at
which the date and time will show the same digits repeated in perfect
symmetry, which has not happened for a long, long time and will not occur
again for 110 years, and then never again.

At 8:02PM, the date and time will be 20.02.2002 20:02 (or 2002 2002 2002)!

This will not happen again until 21.12.2112 21:12 (or Dec. 21, 2112 at
9:12PM).

And then it will never happen again, ever.


Enjoy!


Brian Johnson


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RE: RE: Lost a redo disk

2002-02-20 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

Dick,

Thanks for the reply.  I saw that Beth figured it out on her own.

When you said :

"In her case the first task was to point to a disk drive that's available in
the first place.  Rebuilding the control file has the same effect, it's just
that you can 'rename' the missing log all in one step."

How did you anticipate getting a redo log file to point to?  I've rebuild
control files, renaming files into new directories.  But you need to
re-create the redo log file someplace - or are you suggesting that you
recreate the control file minus the missing redo log file?  Following that
with adding a new set of redo members makes sense to me.  Of course, there
is a chance of lost data.  But lets face it, that train left the station
when the file was lost originally.

Thanks again for the reply.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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Tom,

It would appear that Beth hit the right solution in the end.  In the
past
when I've lost a redo log it was the active one which makes for a much
bigger
mess.  What I believe Beth was running into is that when the database opens
it
tries to connect with each file that makes up the database.  If it can't
then
the open stops right there & complains.  In her case the first task was to
point
to a disk drive that's available in the first place.  Rebuilding the control
file has the same effect, it's just that you can 'rename' the missing log
all in
one step.  And true issuing a reset logs command does clear out all of the
online redo.

Dick Goulet

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Author: "Mercadante; Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:   2/20/2002 10:58 AM

Dick,

Couldn't she just

"Alter database open reset logs"   - wouldn't this create a new set of redo
logs?

Beth - you didn't say whether you lost all of your redo logs - please do NOT
do the above right away.  I've never faced this, and am guessing a bit.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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Beth,

This is one of those conditions where not backing up everything gets one
in
trouble, on occasion.  What I believe you'll have to do, which would be true
in
any case, is rebuild the control file.  Now I'm not absolutely certain, but
I do
believe you can issue a "alter database backup controlfile to trace" command
on
a mounted database.  That will at least give you the script you'll need.

Dick Goulet

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Author: "Seefelt; Beth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:   2/20/2002 5:28 AM


Hi everybody,

This all started with the halon firing in our data center last night around
10pm
so you can imagine my condition.

I lost a disk that contained only redo logs.

When I try to open the database I get 

ORA-00313: open failed for members of log group 1 of thread 1
ORA-00312: online log 1 thread 1: 'F:\ORACLE\ORADATA\OWBREPOS\REDO01.LOG'
ORA-27041: unable to open file
OSD-04002: unable to open file

I thought what I needed to do was switch the log files, drop the members
that
are on the bad disk, and then I'd be able to open the database.

So I mounted the database and did 

alter system switch logfile;

and its telling me ORA-01109: database not open

I thought I could swicth logfile with the database mounted?

Could someone suggest the right steps I should take to recover?

Many TIA,

Beth
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Confusion about oradim.log file

2002-02-20 Thread Rick_Cale

Hi All,

In 8.0.5 when I used the oradim utility to create a service I would always
review the oradim.log file to see if all is well.
I just created my first oracle 8i service using oradim. When I reviewed the
oradim.log file I got an error message saying it cannot
open the control files. Well of course not.  Why in 8i does oradim.log
contain this error?  I can create the database fine with no
problems.  The docs always say to review oradim.log for errors before
continuing. So why are they now putting in errors that are not really
errors.

Thanks
Rick


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Re:RE: RE: Lost a redo disk

2002-02-20 Thread dgoulet

Tom,

If you rebuilt the control file, giving the redo log a new drive to reside
thereon, and then issued the "alter database open reset logs" (which btw is a
part of the script created by the "alter database backup controlfile to trace"
command) the missing log would in fact then exist albeit empty.

And yes you could loose transactions and data if that log was the active log
file at the time it died.  Hopefully that was not the case, but then as you
observe the train is gone.  Isn't that the reason we invest in RAID &
mirroring??  I think this should also server as a wake-up call at Beth's place
of employment to look into some hardware/software for redundancy.  Although who
expects that halon system to be really needed?

Dick Goulet

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Author: "Mercadante; Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:   2/20/2002 11:40 AM

Dick,

Thanks for the reply.  I saw that Beth figured it out on her own.

When you said :

"In her case the first task was to point to a disk drive that's available in
the first place.  Rebuilding the control file has the same effect, it's just
that you can 'rename' the missing log all in one step."

How did you anticipate getting a redo log file to point to?  I've rebuild
control files, renaming files into new directories.  But you need to
re-create the redo log file someplace - or are you suggesting that you
recreate the control file minus the missing redo log file?  Following that
with adding a new set of redo members makes sense to me.  Of course, there
is a chance of lost data.  But lets face it, that train left the station
when the file was lost originally.

Thanks again for the reply.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 11:03 AM
To: Mercadante; Thomas F; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'


Tom,

It would appear that Beth hit the right solution in the end.  In the
past
when I've lost a redo log it was the active one which makes for a much
bigger
mess.  What I believe Beth was running into is that when the database opens
it
tries to connect with each file that makes up the database.  If it can't
then
the open stops right there & complains.  In her case the first task was to
point
to a disk drive that's available in the first place.  Rebuilding the control
file has the same effect, it's just that you can 'rename' the missing log
all in
one step.  And true issuing a reset logs command does clear out all of the
online redo.

Dick Goulet

Reply Separator
Author: "Mercadante; Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:   2/20/2002 10:58 AM

Dick,

Couldn't she just

"Alter database open reset logs"   - wouldn't this create a new set of redo
logs?

Beth - you didn't say whether you lost all of your redo logs - please do NOT
do the above right away.  I've never faced this, and am guessing a bit.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:03 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Beth,

This is one of those conditions where not backing up everything gets one
in
trouble, on occasion.  What I believe you'll have to do, which would be true
in
any case, is rebuild the control file.  Now I'm not absolutely certain, but
I do
believe you can issue a "alter database backup controlfile to trace" command
on
a mounted database.  That will at least give you the script you'll need.

Dick Goulet

Reply Separator
Author: "Seefelt; Beth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:   2/20/2002 5:28 AM


Hi everybody,

This all started with the halon firing in our data center last night around
10pm
so you can imagine my condition.

I lost a disk that contained only redo logs.

When I try to open the database I get 

ORA-00313: open failed for members of log group 1 of thread 1
ORA-00312: online log 1 thread 1: 'F:\ORACLE\ORADATA\OWBREPOS\REDO01.LOG'
ORA-27041: unable to open file
OSD-04002: unable to open file

I thought what I needed to do was switch the log files, drop the members
that
are on the bad disk, and then I'd be able to open the database.

So I mounted the database and did 

alter system switch logfile;

and its telling me ORA-01109: database not open

I thought I could swicth logfile with the database mounted?

Could someone suggest the right steps I should take to recover?

Many TIA,

Beth
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RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread אדר יחיאל

Hello Dennis

We operate here on a site license that cover our internal users and servers.
About a month ago we talked with oracle about a database that will be
connected to
our internet site.
They come back and said that we need a separate license for this and our
regular site
license cover only INTERNAL use.
You need a separate license if you use the DB VIA internet.
I do not know if it is named or CPU or whatever.

Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
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> 
> Can anyone provide more details on "Web licensing"? I asked our manager
> that
> negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU
> (formerly UPU) licensing for unlimited users. I checked at Oraclestore,
> and
> it only shows Named and Processor licensing. If we are missing something,
> I
> would like to avoid a nasty licensing surprise.
> Dennis Williams
> DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 
> Web Licensing means that you use the DB for applications that are accessed
> through the internet,
> NOT INTRANET.
> 
> Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > -Original Message-
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> > 
> > Rachel - By Web license, do you mean the unlimited-user CPU-based
> > licensing?
> > Thanks.
> > Dennis Williams
> > DBA
> > Lifetouch, Inc.
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > 
> > -Original Message-
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> > 
> > 
> > you need to be careful if you are also using databases whose contents
> > appear on the web, as Oracle will want you to use a web license
> > (extremely expensive) even if the data is not directly accessed but
> > appears on the web in static pages generated from the Oracle database.
> > 
> > 
> > --- Stephane Faroult <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > "Smith, Ron L." wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > We have been asked to gather statistics on the number of clients
> > > using
> > > > Oracle.  This is being done to determine if we have sufficient
> > > licensing.
> > > > We have about 100 instances to monitor.
> > > > 
> > > > Has anyone done this?  Any ideas on what "Concurrent users" might
> > > mean to
> > > > the majority of people?
> > > > 
> > > > We have both Oracle 7 and Oracle 8.
> > > > 
> > > > Ron Smith
> > > > DBA
> > > > Kerr-McGee Corp
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Well, I have just been working on this for one of my customers last
> > > week. The obvious thing is to query V$SESSION at regular intervals
> > > (dbms_job can help) and what you can do is store the result through a
> > > database link to a single instance. Where it was tricky was that we
> > > wanted to identify 'system' processes (easy, except that job
> > > processes
> > > are marked as 'USER', which is debatable), and (that's where the snag
> > > is) processes which are the results of a connection through a
> > > database
> > > link. The logic is that a database link is initiated by a 'normal'
> > > connection - for which the full-blown licence is already paid. So
> > > they
> > > should not exactly count as much as regular connection; and if this
> > > is
> > > not a good argument, then it is probably possible to reduce their
> > > number
> > > by shifting around applications. Ultimately we could apply Larry's
> > > favorite concept of 'single instance' (anyway I have always found DB
> > > links messy).
> > > My trouble was that nothing, but human knowledge, can tell whether
> > > the
> > > connection comes from a database link or is genuine (if somebody has
> > > a
> > > way, please share !). All the user information (machine, program,
> > > module, action ...) comes from the initial connection and is
> > > propagated.
> > > I have solved this (not fully satisfactorily) by having a table
> > > automatically inserted with unknown (machine, program) pairs and
> > > manually updated to say 'If we see this program on this database,
> > > then
> > > it comes from a database link' - or 'anything coming from this
> > > machine
> > > must come from a database link'. Added something for connection from
> > > HTTP servers, although I doubt that those will be spontaneously
> > > discussed during the negotiation.
> > >  
> > > -- 
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> > > 
> > > Stephane Faroult
> > > Oriole Ltd
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Re: Lost a redo disk

2002-02-20 Thread Peter Gram

Beth

Just for the record I hope that you understand that you have to do a 
full export and recreate the database and a full import into the newly 
created database to have a supported database.
The parameter _allow_resetlogs_corruption grants you right's to open the 
database even it it needed recover from the missing redo log
file.
The other thing to have in mind it that there is a possibility that you 
have lost committed transaction there was residing in the lost
redo log  :-(

/regards


Seefelt, Beth wrote:

>Never mind.  I was able to open the database.
>
>I renamed the redo file to a disk that is working, and then set the 
>_allow_resetlogs_corruption parameter to true.  Then I was able to do an open 
>resetlogs.
>
>But thanks anyway to anyone who's going to respond when my question hits the list.
>
>Beth
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Seefelt, Beth 
>>Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 8:28 AM
>>To:   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>>Subject:  Lost a redo disk
>>
>>
>>Hi everybody,
>>
>>This all started with the halon firing in our data center last night around 10pm so 
>you can imagine my condition.
>>
>>I lost a disk that contained only redo logs.
>>
>>When I try to open the database I get 
>>
>>ORA-00313: open failed for members of log group 1 of thread 1
>>ORA-00312: online log 1 thread 1: 'F:\ORACLE\ORADATA\OWBREPOS\REDO01.LOG'
>>ORA-27041: unable to open file
>>OSD-04002: unable to open file
>>
>>I thought what I needed to do was switch the log files, drop the members that are on 
>the bad disk, and then I'd be able to open the database.
>>
>>So I mounted the database and did 
>>
>>  alter system switch logfile;
>>
>>and its telling me ORA-01109: database not open
>>
>>I thought I could swicth logfile with the database mounted?
>>
>>Could someone suggest the right steps I should take to recover?
>>
>>Many TIA,
>>
>>Beth
>>

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RE: Lost a redo disk

2002-02-20 Thread SARKAR, Samir

Do u have a consistent backup of the database ?? If so, restore the same
and issue the command :
 
 recover database until cancel;

When all the archived logs have been applied, issue the command :
 
 alter database open resetlogs;

This should create the online redologs.

Hope this helps,

Samir

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Hi everybody,

This all started with the halon firing in our data center last night around
10pm so you can imagine my condition.

I lost a disk that contained only redo logs.

When I try to open the database I get 

ORA-00313: open failed for members of log group 1 of thread 1
ORA-00312: online log 1 thread 1: 'F:\ORACLE\ORADATA\OWBREPOS\REDO01.LOG'
ORA-27041: unable to open file
OSD-04002: unable to open file

I thought what I needed to do was switch the log files, drop the members
that are on the bad disk, and then I'd be able to open the database.

So I mounted the database and did 

alter system switch logfile;

and its telling me ORA-01109: database not open

I thought I could swicth logfile with the database mounted?

Could someone suggest the right steps I should take to recover?

Many TIA,

Beth
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(no subject)

2002-02-20 Thread DBAtracker
I'm a student dba'r running 9i on windows xp.  I have created a second database (database name=bill, instance name = bill).  After I first created it, I tried to mount it after shutting down the installation seed  database (database name = orcl, instance name = orcl).  I kept getting the message 'cannot mount database in exclusive mode'.  After several attempts to get out of exclusive mode, I gave up.  The next night, without making any changes,  I tried again and this time I was sucessful in mounting the bill database.  I created a data tablespace (data) and  four tables which I populated.  Then  I queried the database name from v$database and got the response 'bill'.  Next I queried the instance name from v$instance and got 'orcl' when I should have gotten 'bill'.  I double checked the database name and again got 'bill'.&nbs!
!
p; How can this be?  But the real problem is that when I tried to mount the database bill again tonight, I again got the message ''cannot mount database in exclusive mode'.  I can't find an explanation for this in the book.  I tried to startup nomount using the 'bill' pfile which showed an idel instance started. Then I tried to issue the alter database mount parallel command but it comes back with the 'cannot mount database in exclusive mode'.  When I then query the instance_name from v$instance I get orcl instead of bill.  Can any one help me out?
Thanks!
Bill Johnson


RE: Lost a redo disk

2002-02-20 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

Dick,

Couldn't she just

"Alter database open reset logs"   - wouldn't this create a new set of redo
logs?

Beth - you didn't say whether you lost all of your redo logs - please do NOT
do the above right away.  I've never faced this, and am guessing a bit.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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Beth,

This is one of those conditions where not backing up everything gets one
in
trouble, on occasion.  What I believe you'll have to do, which would be true
in
any case, is rebuild the control file.  Now I'm not absolutely certain, but
I do
believe you can issue a "alter database backup controlfile to trace" command
on
a mounted database.  That will at least give you the script you'll need.

Dick Goulet

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Author: "Seefelt; Beth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:   2/20/2002 5:28 AM


Hi everybody,

This all started with the halon firing in our data center last night around
10pm
so you can imagine my condition.

I lost a disk that contained only redo logs.

When I try to open the database I get 

ORA-00313: open failed for members of log group 1 of thread 1
ORA-00312: online log 1 thread 1: 'F:\ORACLE\ORADATA\OWBREPOS\REDO01.LOG'
ORA-27041: unable to open file
OSD-04002: unable to open file

I thought what I needed to do was switch the log files, drop the members
that
are on the bad disk, and then I'd be able to open the database.

So I mounted the database and did 

alter system switch logfile;

and its telling me ORA-01109: database not open

I thought I could swicth logfile with the database mounted?

Could someone suggest the right steps I should take to recover?

Many TIA,

Beth
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Re:RE: Lost a redo disk

2002-02-20 Thread dgoulet

Tom,

It would appear that Beth hit the right solution in the end.  In the past
when I've lost a redo log it was the active one which makes for a much bigger
mess.  What I believe Beth was running into is that when the database opens it
tries to connect with each file that makes up the database.  If it can't then
the open stops right there & complains.  In her case the first task was to point
to a disk drive that's available in the first place.  Rebuilding the control
file has the same effect, it's just that you can 'rename' the missing log all in
one step.  And true issuing a reset logs command does clear out all of the
online redo.

Dick Goulet

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Author: "Mercadante; Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:   2/20/2002 10:58 AM

Dick,

Couldn't she just

"Alter database open reset logs"   - wouldn't this create a new set of redo
logs?

Beth - you didn't say whether you lost all of your redo logs - please do NOT
do the above right away.  I've never faced this, and am guessing a bit.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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Beth,

This is one of those conditions where not backing up everything gets one
in
trouble, on occasion.  What I believe you'll have to do, which would be true
in
any case, is rebuild the control file.  Now I'm not absolutely certain, but
I do
believe you can issue a "alter database backup controlfile to trace" command
on
a mounted database.  That will at least give you the script you'll need.

Dick Goulet

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Author: "Seefelt; Beth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:   2/20/2002 5:28 AM


Hi everybody,

This all started with the halon firing in our data center last night around
10pm
so you can imagine my condition.

I lost a disk that contained only redo logs.

When I try to open the database I get 

ORA-00313: open failed for members of log group 1 of thread 1
ORA-00312: online log 1 thread 1: 'F:\ORACLE\ORADATA\OWBREPOS\REDO01.LOG'
ORA-27041: unable to open file
OSD-04002: unable to open file

I thought what I needed to do was switch the log files, drop the members
that
are on the bad disk, and then I'd be able to open the database.

So I mounted the database and did 

alter system switch logfile;

and its telling me ORA-01109: database not open

I thought I could swicth logfile with the database mounted?

Could someone suggest the right steps I should take to recover?

Many TIA,

Beth
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Re: Lost a redo disk

2002-02-20 Thread Bunyamin K. Karadeniz

alter database clear logfile group 1;
alter database open;

may help you...


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Hi everybody,

This all started with the halon firing in our data center last night around
10pm so you can imagine my condition.

I lost a disk that contained only redo logs.

When I try to open the database I get

ORA-00313: open failed for members of log group 1 of thread 1
ORA-00312: online log 1 thread 1: 'F:\ORACLE\ORADATA\OWBREPOS\REDO01.LOG'
ORA-27041: unable to open file
OSD-04002: unable to open file

I thought what I needed to do was switch the log files, drop the members
that are on the bad disk, and then I'd be able to open the database.

So I mounted the database and did

alter system switch logfile;

and its telling me ORA-01109: database not open

I thought I could swicth logfile with the database mounted?

Could someone suggest the right steps I should take to recover?

Many TIA,

Beth
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RE: Rollback Segments

2002-02-20 Thread Gogala, Mladen

Wow! I've been recommending your paper about Oracle7 wait events
everywhere! I didn't know that you are on this list, too.

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How about iag/iap ? And rpt ? Oh and SQL*Menu ?
And there were about 14 enqueue/locks in Oracle Version 5 as far as I can
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RE: Lost a redo disk

2002-02-20 Thread Seefelt, Beth


Never mind.  I was able to open the database.

I renamed the redo file to a disk that is working, and then set the 
_allow_resetlogs_corruption parameter to true.  Then I was able to do an open 
resetlogs.

But thanks anyway to anyone who's going to respond when my question hits the list.

Beth

> -Original Message-
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> To:   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject:  Lost a redo disk
> 
> 
> Hi everybody,
> 
> This all started with the halon firing in our data center last night around 10pm so 
>you can imagine my condition.
> 
> I lost a disk that contained only redo logs.
> 
> When I try to open the database I get 
> 
> ORA-00313: open failed for members of log group 1 of thread 1
> ORA-00312: online log 1 thread 1: 'F:\ORACLE\ORADATA\OWBREPOS\REDO01.LOG'
> ORA-27041: unable to open file
> OSD-04002: unable to open file
> 
> I thought what I needed to do was switch the log files, drop the members that are on 
>the bad disk, and then I'd be able to open the database.
> 
> So I mounted the database and did 
> 
>   alter system switch logfile;
> 
> and its telling me ORA-01109: database not open
> 
> I thought I could swicth logfile with the database mounted?
> 
> Could someone suggest the right steps I should take to recover?
> 
> Many TIA,
> 
> Beth
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CRITICAL: MIGRATION WORKBENCH NOT SUITABLE DRIVER FOUND.

2002-02-20 Thread Neil Khot



Dear Friends,
 
I am trying to Convert Informix 7.3 
database to Oracle 8 using Work bench migration tool. I tried connecting using the disconnected model method and 
the conversion goes on fine..but this method does NOT convert the 
data.
 
Therefore I need to connect, using 
the migration tool, which uses Informix JDBC driver to connect to Informix 
database. This way I can also convert the data from the tables. But when I enter 
the Informix database information and I hit the next button I get the following 
message "NO SUITABLE DRIVER".
 

  I have checked that JDBC 
  connection is working fine using a JDBC small connection 
  application.
  I have also made sure that 
  ifmxjdbc.jar is specified in the CLASSPATH and also a copied it to the 
  ORACLE_HOME/omwb/driver directory.
If any one has done this 
before please let me what is that I am missing to make the connection using 
Migration tool.
 
Neil KhotTELEFORMIX 
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RE: Lost a redo disk

2002-02-20 Thread Arun Chakrapani

Nope u cannot switch when it is in mount mode

have u lost all your redlogs


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Hi everybody,

This all started with the halon firing in our data center last night around
10pm so you can imagine my condition.

I lost a disk that contained only redo logs.

When I try to open the database I get 

ORA-00313: open failed for members of log group 1 of thread 1
ORA-00312: online log 1 thread 1: 'F:\ORACLE\ORADATA\OWBREPOS\REDO01.LOG'
ORA-27041: unable to open file
OSD-04002: unable to open file

I thought what I needed to do was switch the log files, drop the members
that are on the bad disk, and then I'd be able to open the database.

So I mounted the database and did 

alter system switch logfile;

and its telling me ORA-01109: database not open

I thought I could swicth logfile with the database mounted?

Could someone suggest the right steps I should take to recover?

Many TIA,

Beth
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RE: Set unused column back to normal (solved)

2002-02-20 Thread Michael Wu

You either post the solution or do nothing. Your following message is
meaningless just waster other people's time. Please show your courtesy
before you post on a public list like this.

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Solved

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Subject:Set unused column back to normal

Hi all,


Any command setting back the unused column back to used ?

Negate this command please

ALTER TABLE mytable SET UNUSED mycol;


Sinardy


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RE: JDBC problem

2002-02-20 Thread Liu, Roger (R.)

First, need you clarify:

1: Do you use Java or JavaScript
2: How you program to access Database

Roger Liu
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Hi,
 I am new to this  group as well as to Oracle.
I have installed Oracle 8.1.5 & Java 1.3.1_02  on Solaris system.
My question is whatever JDBC drivers that are installed by default
supports the java version 1.3.1_02 or i have to install JDBC drivers
seperately.I am facing lot of problems in connecting to Database from java
script.Please clarify my doubt.

Thanks & Regards,
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Re: Lost a redo disk

2002-02-20 Thread Stephane Faroult

"Seefelt, Beth" wrote:
> 
> Hi everybody,
> 
> This all started with the halon firing in our data center last night around 10pm so 
>you can imagine my condition.
> 
> I lost a disk that contained only redo logs.
> 
> When I try to open the database I get
> 
> ORA-00313: open failed for members of log group 1 of thread 1
> ORA-00312: online log 1 thread 1: 'F:\ORACLE\ORADATA\OWBREPOS\REDO01.LOG'
> ORA-27041: unable to open file
> OSD-04002: unable to open file
> 
> I thought what I needed to do was switch the log files, drop the members that are on 
>the bad disk, and then I'd be able to open the database.
> 
> So I mounted the database and did
> 
> alter system switch logfile;
> 
> and its telling me ORA-01109: database not open
> 
> I thought I could swicth logfile with the database mounted?
> 
> Could someone suggest the right steps I should take to recover?
> 
> Many TIA,
> 
> Beth

Beth,

  The commands you usually play with when your database is not opened
are variations on the ALTER DATABASE theme.
  It looks like what used to be the current log file has been damaged,
and quite obviously this occurred before the checkpoint.
  If you have members on a good disk, what I'd try to do is to overwrite
bad members with the corresponding good ones - they are supposed to be
identical - then try to open the database. It may work.

If it still fails, I were you I'd probably try this BUT BEWARE THAT IT
MAY MEAN LOST TRANSACTIONS :
 1) Drop and recreate damaged members while the database is mounted with
ALTER DATABASE
 2) Open the database with the RESETLOGS options. In effect, it will
mean that all transactions since the latest checkpoint are lost. 

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RE: Dynamic SQL

2002-02-20 Thread Bala, Prakash
Title: Dynamic SQL



Laura, 

 
Here 
is an example:
 
create 
or replace package pkg_drill_thru as
  
type CompanyPhone is ref cursor; 
    Procedure 
get_mobile_numbers(    activity_dt    
date,    company_cd 
varchar2,    channel_cd 
varchar2,    subscriber_cd  
varchar2,    initial_add    
number,    volun_disc 
number,    involun_disc   
number,    volun_recon    
number,    involun_recon  number,    
no_install number,    
company_phone  in out CompanyPhone);
 
end;/
 
create 
or replace package body pkg_drill_thru as
 
  
Procedure get_mobile_numbers(    
activity_dt    date,    
company_cd varchar2,    
channel_cd varchar2,    
subscriber_cd  varchar2,    
initial_add    number,    
volun_disc number,    
involun_disc   number,    
volun_recon    number,    involun_recon  
number,    no_install 
number,    company_phone in out CompanyPhone)  
as    sql_str  varchar2(2000);  
begin    sql_str := 'select nvl(company_desc, a.company_code) 
company, a.channel_code, mobile_number  from 
dly_transaction_detail a, company_dimension b  
where activity_date = :1 and 
subscriber_code = upper(:2) 
and a.company_code in (select 
company_code    
from 
company_dimension    
start with parent_company_code = 
:3    
connect by parent_company_code = prior 
company_code    
union    
select :4 from dual) and 
a.channel_code in (select 
channel_code    
from 
channel_dimension    
start with parent_channel_code = 
:5    
connect by parent_channel_code = prior 
channel_code    
union    
select :6 from dual) and 
a.company_code = b.company_code';        
if initial_add = 1 then  sql_str := sql_str || 
' and initial_add = 1';    elsif volun_disc = 1 
then  sql_str := sql_str || ' and volun_disc = 
1';    elsif involun_disc = 1 
then  sql_str := sql_str || ' and involun_disc 
= 1';    elsif volun_recon = 1 
then  sql_str := sql_str || ' and volun_recon = 
1';    elsif involun_recon = 1 
then  sql_str := sql_str || ' and involun_recon 
= 1';    elsif no_install = 1 
then  sql_str := sql_str || ' and no_install = 
1';    end if;
 
    open company_phone for sql_str using 
activity_dt, subscriber_cd, company_cd, company_cd, channel_cd, 
channel_cd;  end;  
end;
Prakash
 

  -Original Message-From: Burton, Laura L. 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:57 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Dynamic SQL
  We have Oracle version 8.0.5 and need to 
  use dynamic sql.  Through research I know that there is a dbms_sql 
  package that is suppose to support this, but we cannot find an example of what 
  we are needing to do.  We have been told that we can do it easily 
  in '8i' but 
  we are not able to upgrade yet.
  We are trying to populate a reference 
  cursor via a procedure with a select 
  statement.  Has anyone done this and if so 
  can you furnish an example?  I may need 
  to tell more about what we are doing and if so 
  please tell me.
  Thank you,
  Laura


Re: SET TRANSACTION for a Distributed Transaction

2002-02-20 Thread Igor Neyman

Bill,

You could do your inserts calling a stored procedure which you create on
your target db and specify the rollback segment inside stored procedure.

Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
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> Can I use SET TRANSACTION USE ROLLBACK SEGMENT  for a
distributed
> transaction, where I"m doing a whole bunch of INSERTS on a target db that
> SELECT data from a source db?
>
> I was thinking of constructing this to run when logged into the source
db -
> I'd insert data to a target db across a database link.  I assume the RBS
> would have to be on the target db?  Or could the RBS be on the source db,
> even though the inserts are taking place on the target?
>
> Alternatively I could write the script whereby the inserts happen on the
> local db and the selects happen across the db link - in that case the SET
> TRANSACTION would use a local RBS . . .
>
> any ideas/comments on writing putting something like this together?
>
> Thanks
>
> -bill magaliff
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RE: Dynamic SQL

2002-02-20 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Title: Dynamic SQL



 
Laura,
 
Here's 
one.  In this case, if the in variable 'p_actualenddate' is passed into the 
procedure, and additional 'and' clause is added to the where clause.  Any 
questions, give me a shout.
 

PROCEDURE ListScheduleforDelete
(
   
p_employid IN 
VARCHAR2,
   
p_status IN 
WTW_EMPL_WEEKENDING_SCHEDULE.SCHED_STATUS_CODE%TYPE,
   
p_actualenddate  IN 
WTW_EMPLOYMENT.EMPLOYMENT_START_DATE%TYPE,
   
p_refCursor IN 
OUT empRS
)
IS
sel_string VARCHAR2(2000) 
:=
   ' SELECT 
WTW_EMPL_WEEKENDING_SCHEDULE.EMPLOYMENT_ID,   ' ||
   ' 
WTW_EMPL_WEEKENDING_SCHEDULE.EMPLOYMENT_WEEKEND_DATE, 
' 
||
   ' 
WTW_EMPL_WEEKENDING_SCHEDULE.TOTAL_ACTUAL_HRS_NBR, ' ||
   ' 
WTW_EMPL_SCHED_STATUS_CODE.SCHED_LONG_TXT, ' ||
   ' 
WTW_EMPL_WEEKENDING_SCHEDULE.TOTAL_SCHED_HRS_NBR ' ||
   ' FROM 
WTW_EMPL_WEEKENDING_SCHEDULE, WTW_EMPL_SCHED_STATUS_CODE ' ||
   ' WHERE 
WTW_EMPL_WEEKENDING_SCHEDULE.EMPLOYMENT_ID = :p_employid AND 
' 
||
   ' 
WTW_EMPL_WEEKENDING_SCHEDULE.SCHED_STATUS_CODE = :p_status AND 
' 
||
   ' 
WTW_EMPL_SCHED_STATUS_CODE.SCHED_STATUS_CODE(+) = 
WTW_EMPL_WEEKENDING_SCHEDULE.SCHED_STATUS_CODE ';
 
where_string VARCHAR2(400);
 
where_str VARCHAR2(7) 
:= ' AND 
';
 
ActualDatePlusSeven DATE;
 
BEGIN
IF p_actualenddate IS NOT NULL 
THEN
   ActualDatePlusSeven 
:= p_actualenddate + 7;
   where_string 
:= where_str || ' 
WTW_EMPL_WEEKENDING_SCHEDULE.EMPLOYMENT_WEEKEND_DATE >= ' 
|| 
   
 || ActualDatePlusSeven ||  || ' ';
END 
IF;
 
OPEN 
p_refCursor FOR
  
sel_string ||
  where_string 
||
  
' ORDER BY 2 DESC' USING p_employid, p_status;
 
END ListScheduleforDelete;
 
-- 
%%%

Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional 

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:57 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Dynamic SQL
  We have Oracle version 8.0.5 and need to 
  use dynamic sql.  Through research I know that there is a dbms_sql 
  package that is suppose to support this, but we cannot find an example of what 
  we are needing to do.  We have been told that we can do it easily 
  in '8i' but 
  we are not able to upgrade yet.
  We are trying to populate a reference 
  cursor via a procedure with a select 
  statement.  Has anyone done this and if so 
  can you furnish an example?  I may need 
  to tell more about what we are doing and if so 
  please tell me.
  Thank you,
  Laura


RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Can anyone provide more details on "Web licensing"? I asked our manager that
negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU
(formerly UPU) licensing for unlimited users. I checked at Oraclestore, and
it only shows Named and Processor licensing. If we are missing something, I
would like to avoid a nasty licensing surprise.
Dennis Williams
DBA
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Web Licensing means that you use the DB for applications that are accessed
through the internet,
NOT INTRANET.

Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
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> 
> Rachel - By Web license, do you mean the unlimited-user CPU-based
> licensing?
> Thanks.
> Dennis Williams
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> 
> you need to be careful if you are also using databases whose contents
> appear on the web, as Oracle will want you to use a web license
> (extremely expensive) even if the data is not directly accessed but
> appears on the web in static pages generated from the Oracle database.
> 
> 
> --- Stephane Faroult <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "Smith, Ron L." wrote:
> > > 
> > > We have been asked to gather statistics on the number of clients
> > using
> > > Oracle.  This is being done to determine if we have sufficient
> > licensing.
> > > We have about 100 instances to monitor.
> > > 
> > > Has anyone done this?  Any ideas on what "Concurrent users" might
> > mean to
> > > the majority of people?
> > > 
> > > We have both Oracle 7 and Oracle 8.
> > > 
> > > Ron Smith
> > > DBA
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> > > 
> > 
> > Well, I have just been working on this for one of my customers last
> > week. The obvious thing is to query V$SESSION at regular intervals
> > (dbms_job can help) and what you can do is store the result through a
> > database link to a single instance. Where it was tricky was that we
> > wanted to identify 'system' processes (easy, except that job
> > processes
> > are marked as 'USER', which is debatable), and (that's where the snag
> > is) processes which are the results of a connection through a
> > database
> > link. The logic is that a database link is initiated by a 'normal'
> > connection - for which the full-blown licence is already paid. So
> > they
> > should not exactly count as much as regular connection; and if this
> > is
> > not a good argument, then it is probably possible to reduce their
> > number
> > by shifting around applications. Ultimately we could apply Larry's
> > favorite concept of 'single instance' (anyway I have always found DB
> > links messy).
> > My trouble was that nothing, but human knowledge, can tell whether
> > the
> > connection comes from a database link or is genuine (if somebody has
> > a
> > way, please share !). All the user information (machine, program,
> > module, action ...) comes from the initial connection and is
> > propagated.
> > I have solved this (not fully satisfactorily) by having a table
> > automatically inserted with unknown (machine, program) pairs and
> > manually updated to say 'If we see this program on this database,
> > then
> > it comes from a database link' - or 'anything coming from this
> > machine
> > must come from a database link'. Added something for connection from
> > HTTP servers, although I doubt that those will be spontaneously
> > discussed during the negotiation.
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Re:Lost a redo disk

2002-02-20 Thread dgoulet

Beth,

This is one of those conditions where not backing up everything gets one in
trouble, on occasion.  What I believe you'll have to do, which would be true in
any case, is rebuild the control file.  Now I'm not absolutely certain, but I do
believe you can issue a "alter database backup controlfile to trace" command on
a mounted database.  That will at least give you the script you'll need.

Dick Goulet

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Author: "Seefelt; Beth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:   2/20/2002 5:28 AM


Hi everybody,

This all started with the halon firing in our data center last night around 10pm
so you can imagine my condition.

I lost a disk that contained only redo logs.

When I try to open the database I get 

ORA-00313: open failed for members of log group 1 of thread 1
ORA-00312: online log 1 thread 1: 'F:\ORACLE\ORADATA\OWBREPOS\REDO01.LOG'
ORA-27041: unable to open file
OSD-04002: unable to open file

I thought what I needed to do was switch the log files, drop the members that
are on the bad disk, and then I'd be able to open the database.

So I mounted the database and did 

alter system switch logfile;

and its telling me ORA-01109: database not open

I thought I could swicth logfile with the database mounted?

Could someone suggest the right steps I should take to recover?

Many TIA,

Beth
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RE: Oracle Developer/DBA Needed in Macon, Georgia-Local Candi

2002-02-20 Thread Loughmiller, Greg

ya just have to understand where Noble is located...  Most of the family
trees dont have branches :-)


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HUMM,  After the fiasco in Noble who in their right mind would want to go to
Georgia. :-)

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Stable manufacturing firm in Macon, Georgia is looking for an Oracle
developer who has some DBA functions as well. Oracle development is the key.
If the
candidate has strong development skills and is interested in doing some DBA
functions and some knowledge of the functions, resumes would be welcomed.
This is a full-time staff position.

*Only candidates who live in the Macon and 285 loop area will be considered.
 No relocation is provided. Only sent a resume if you are in this area.

** No Sponsorship is available. DO NOT send your resume if you have H-1B
status.

*Candidates Need to have solid Oracle Forms, Reports, PL/SQL experience..
 some DBA experience is highly preferred.

Base salary is in the 70-80 K range.

*U.S. citizenship or green card holders only

PLEASE do not send your resume if you are not in the
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Lost a redo disk

2002-02-20 Thread Seefelt, Beth


Hi everybody,

This all started with the halon firing in our data center last night around 10pm so 
you can imagine my condition.

I lost a disk that contained only redo logs.

When I try to open the database I get 

ORA-00313: open failed for members of log group 1 of thread 1
ORA-00312: online log 1 thread 1: 'F:\ORACLE\ORADATA\OWBREPOS\REDO01.LOG'
ORA-27041: unable to open file
OSD-04002: unable to open file

I thought what I needed to do was switch the log files, drop the members that are on 
the bad disk, and then I'd be able to open the database.

So I mounted the database and did 

alter system switch logfile;

and its telling me ORA-01109: database not open

I thought I could swicth logfile with the database mounted?

Could someone suggest the right steps I should take to recover?

Many TIA,

Beth
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RE: JDBC problem

2002-02-20 Thread Ji, Richard

What kind of problems are you encountering?  

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Hi,
 I am new to this  group as well as to Oracle.
I have installed Oracle 8.1.5 & Java 1.3.1_02  on Solaris system.
My question is whatever JDBC drivers that are installed by default
supports the java version 1.3.1_02 or i have to install JDBC drivers
seperately.I am facing lot of problems in connecting to Database from java
script.Please clarify my doubt.

Thanks & Regards,
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RE: Set unused column back to normal (solved)

2002-02-20 Thread אדר יחיאל

How?

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> Solved
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> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> Any command setting back the unused column back to used ?
> 
> Negate this command please
> 
> ALTER TABLE mytable SET UNUSED mycol;
> 
> 
> Sinardy
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Re: Disable certain users from login to database while applying Human

2002-02-20 Thread Abul Fazal

Probably this might help u to arrive at a solution
rather than giving the actual solution

In certain situations, you may want to log in to
another schema to operate on that user's objects like
granting privileges, but you don't know 
the password for that schema and you can't wait until
that user is available to assist you. Consider this
situation. A typical database has the following users:

SYSTEM
SYS
MATERIALS
ACCOUNTS

Assume you don't know the password for both MATERIALS
and ACCOUNTS, but you want to grant privileges on
MATERIALS's objects to the ACCOUNTS schema
immediately. You can't achieve this objective by
logging into SYS or SYSTEM schema. You should have to
log in to that schema for granting privileges to
others. That is, you should have to be the owner to
grant privileges on the objects. At the same time, you
should not disturb the existing password of the
MATERIALS schema. You can perform both the objectives
using the following steps:
1. Connect as SYSTEM or SYS schema and issue the
following sql command:
SQL> select 'alter user '||username||' identified by
values '''||password|| 
  from dba_users 
  where username='MATERIALS';

This will return a statement like the one below

alter user MATERIALS identified by values
'D0DCC7D6877E8507';

Preserve this statement, as it will help you reset the
original (existing) password after finishing the work.

2. Set the new password for the MATERIALS schema by
giving the following sql command:

SQL> alter user materials identified by password;

Here you can set any password temporarily to complete
the objectives.

3. Log in to the MATERIALS schema, grant the privilege
on certain objects to the ACCOUNTS schema and whatever
jobs you want to complete in that schema.

4. Connect as the SYS or SYSTEM schema and execute the
preserved statement. 

SQL> alter user MATERIALS identified by values
'D0DCC7D6877E8507';

This will reset the password to the previous one, and
the user's work won't be affected.

Cheers
Fazal

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> As you are talking of Oracle Apps, NONE of the
> suggested solutions :
> 1.  Database ON LOGON Trigger
> 2.  Lock Database Account
> 3.  Change Database Account Password
> 4.  Startup Database in Restricted mode
> would work.
> 
> The users connect to the Database in the APPS schema
> -- this is the
> "universal"
> schema that Oracle Apps uses.  The Patch requires
> APPS so Restricted
> doesn't
> help (unless you grant Restricted to APPS in which
> case all the users can
> logon).
> Ditto about locking, changing password or writing a
> trigger on the APPS
> schema.
> 
> What you can do are :
> 1. Shutdown the Apache server for the Self-Service
> Modules
> 2. Shutdown the Forms server for the Forms Module
> 3. Shutdown the Concurrent Managers.
> 
> All of the above would affect ALL users.
> 
> Alternatively, login to the Application as the
> System Administrator user
> and
> change the Application User Passwords for the users
> whom you want disabled.
> Change the passwords back to a default (WELCOME)
> later.
> 
> However, what you SHOULD do, per Oracle Support, is
> 1. Shutdown 2. Shutdown
> 3. Shutdown
> as I have listed above.
> If you are familiar with Oracle Applications
> Patching and are comfortable
> with reading
> the Patch drivers, you can figure out what database
> objects are being
> modified/updated/created
> and what Forms/Reports/HTML etc files are being
> modified/created by the
> patch.
> Then you can take an intelligent decision 
> should you allow users to
> logon when
> applying the patch ?
> 
> Hemant K Chitale
> Principal DBA
> Chartered Semiconductor Manufacturing Ltd
> 
> 
> "CHAN Chor Ling Catherine (CSC)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>  Subject: Disable certain users from
> login to database while applying
>  
>  Human  
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Gurus,
> 
> I need to disable certain users from login to
> database while I apply the
> Human Resources Patches for our Oracle HR 11i
> Applications.
> Which is the best way to do it ? Should I write
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RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread אדר יחיאל

Web Licensing means that you use the DB for applications that are accessed
through the internet,
NOT INTRANET.

Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
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> 
> Rachel - By Web license, do you mean the unlimited-user CPU-based
> licensing?
> Thanks.
> Dennis Williams
> DBA
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> 
> you need to be careful if you are also using databases whose contents
> appear on the web, as Oracle will want you to use a web license
> (extremely expensive) even if the data is not directly accessed but
> appears on the web in static pages generated from the Oracle database.
> 
> 
> --- Stephane Faroult <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "Smith, Ron L." wrote:
> > > 
> > > We have been asked to gather statistics on the number of clients
> > using
> > > Oracle.  This is being done to determine if we have sufficient
> > licensing.
> > > We have about 100 instances to monitor.
> > > 
> > > Has anyone done this?  Any ideas on what "Concurrent users" might
> > mean to
> > > the majority of people?
> > > 
> > > We have both Oracle 7 and Oracle 8.
> > > 
> > > Ron Smith
> > > DBA
> > > Kerr-McGee Corp
> > > 
> > 
> > Well, I have just been working on this for one of my customers last
> > week. The obvious thing is to query V$SESSION at regular intervals
> > (dbms_job can help) and what you can do is store the result through a
> > database link to a single instance. Where it was tricky was that we
> > wanted to identify 'system' processes (easy, except that job
> > processes
> > are marked as 'USER', which is debatable), and (that's where the snag
> > is) processes which are the results of a connection through a
> > database
> > link. The logic is that a database link is initiated by a 'normal'
> > connection - for which the full-blown licence is already paid. So
> > they
> > should not exactly count as much as regular connection; and if this
> > is
> > not a good argument, then it is probably possible to reduce their
> > number
> > by shifting around applications. Ultimately we could apply Larry's
> > favorite concept of 'single instance' (anyway I have always found DB
> > links messy).
> > My trouble was that nothing, but human knowledge, can tell whether
> > the
> > connection comes from a database link or is genuine (if somebody has
> > a
> > way, please share !). All the user information (machine, program,
> > module, action ...) comes from the initial connection and is
> > propagated.
> > I have solved this (not fully satisfactorily) by having a table
> > automatically inserted with unknown (machine, program) pairs and
> > manually updated to say 'If we see this program on this database,
> > then
> > it comes from a database link' - or 'anything coming from this
> > machine
> > must come from a database link'. Added something for connection from
> > HTTP servers, although I doubt that those will be spontaneously
> > discussed during the negotiation.
> >  
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> > 
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Re: How to build an Oracle database from scratch

2002-02-20 Thread Connor McDonald

and just to add my 2c worth... if anyone's has sat
around waiting for the jvm to be loaded, then they'll
know that db creation takes a l-o-n-g time nowadays. 
A simple solution is to create a basic "empty"
database (ie just system, undo and temp) and then
close it, zip it up...

Now you have a template rather for creating any number
of new databases rather than watching that awful
slider bar chugging away.

the 9i installer does a similar thing with "database
templates"

hth
connor

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> 
>
http://dbasupport.com/oracle/ora9i/solutions/createDB.shtml
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RE: FW: rename foreign keys from system-assigned constraint names

2002-02-20 Thread אדר יחיאל

Hello Jared

I tested it. Seems to work ok on 8.1.6 on NT.
You will need to define how to recognize system assign constraint names.
One bug found: The resulting constraint name can be longer then 32 letters
if you tables have long names.
Maybe you can use another method to determine the resulting constraint name.


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> names to
> 
> Have you or anyone else on the list used this script?
> 
> Successfully?  More than once?
> 
> Jared
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Here is something that was posted before - I haven't tried it so I don't
> know how well it works (if it does).
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> -Original Message-
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> more
> 
> 
> I just found this script on another site and thought this group would
> benefit from it, as we are always looking for usefult scripts... apologies
> if the formatting is bad.
> 
> Here is a script that renames foreign keys from system-assigned constraint
> names to more intelligible names. The names use the current table name and
> the referenced table name. This greatly improves readability, especially 
> for
> error messages.
> DECLARE
>c_owner   CONSTANT VARCHAR2 (30):= 'FLEETPRO';
> 
>CURSOR cons_cur
>IS
>   SELECT C.owner, C.constraint_name, C.table_name,
>   TRANSLATE (C.table_name,'ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ_',
>  'ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ')
>   as RTrimTable
> 
>  , CR.owner as ROwner, CR.constraint_name as RCName,
>CR.table_name as RTable,
>TRANSLATE (CR.table_name,'ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ_',
>   'ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ') as RtrimRTable
> 
>   FROM all_constraints C, all_constraints CR
>   WHERE C.owner = 'FLEETPRO'
> AND C.owner = CR.owner
> AND C.constraint_type in ('R')
> AND UPPER(SUBSTR(C.constraint_name,1,3)) <> 'FK_'
> AND C.r_constraint_name = CR.constraint_name
> ORDER BY C.table_name,CR.table_name;
>  --  AND rownum < 50;
> 
>cons_rec   cons_cur%ROWTYPE;
> 
>CURSOR col_curs
>IS
>   SELECT column_name, position
> FROM all_cons_columns cc
>WHERE cc.owner = cons_rec.owner
>  AND cc.constraint_name = cons_rec.constraint_name
>  AND cc.table_name = cons_rec.table_name
>ORDER BY position;
> 
>CURSOR col_R_curs
>IS
>   SELECT column_name, position
> FROM all_cons_columns cc
>WHERE cc.owner = cons_rec.ROwner
>  AND cc.constraint_name = cons_rec.RCname
>  AND cc.table_name = cons_rec.RTable
>ORDER BY position;
> 
>v_table_name   all_constraints.table_name%type;
>v_Rtable_name  all_constraints.table_name%type;
>v_ctr  int;
> 
>v_fklist   VARCHAR2 (1000);
>v_fklist_R VARCHAR2 (1000);
>v_global_name  VARCHAR2 (80);
> BEGIN
>OPEN cons_cur;
>v_table_name := NULL;
>v_Rtable_name := NULL;
>v_ctr := 0;
> 
>LOOP
>   FETCH cons_cur INTO cons_rec;
>   EXIT WHEN cons_cur%NOTFOUND;
> 
>   v_fklist   := NULL;
>   v_fklist_R := NULL;
> 
>   FOR col_rec IN col_curs
>   LOOP
>  IF v_fklist IS NULL THEN
> v_fklist := '( ' || col_rec.column_name;
>  ELSE
> v_fklist := v_fklist || ', ' || col_rec.column_name;
>  END IF;
>   END LOOP;
> 
>   FOR col_rec IN col_R_curs
>   LOOP
>  IF v_fklist_R IS NULL THEN
> v_fklist_R := '( ' || col_rec.column_name;
>  ELSE
> v_fklist_R := v_fklist_R || ', ' || col_rec.column_name;
>  END IF;
>   END LOOP;
> 
> 
>   IF ((v_table_name = cons_rec.table_name)
>AND (v_Rtable_name = cons_rec.Rtable))
>THEN v_ctr := v_ctr + 1;
>   Else
>   v_ctr := 0;
>   v_table_name := cons_rec.table_name;
>   v_Rtable_name := cons_rec.Rtable;
>   End If;
> 
>   v_fklist   := v_fklist || ')';
>   v_fklist_R := v_fklist_R || ')';
> 
>   DBMS_OUTPUT.put_line
> 
>  'alter table ' || cons_rec.owner || '.' || cons_rec.table_name
>   );
>   DBMS_OUTPUT.put_line
> 
>  'drop constraint ' || cons_rec.constraint_name || ';'
>   );
>   DBMS_OUTPUT.put_line
> 
>  'alter table ' || cons

RE: Set unused column back to normal (solved)

2002-02-20 Thread Sinard Xing

Solved

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Sent:   20 February 2002 17:20
To: 'Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L'; 'LazyDBA mailing list'
Subject:Set unused column back to normal

Hi all,


Any command setting back the unused column back to used ?

Negate this command please

ALTER TABLE mytable SET UNUSED mycol;


Sinardy


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Set unused column back to normal

2002-02-20 Thread Sinard Xing

Hi all,


Any command setting back the unused column back to used ?

Negate this command please

ALTER TABLE mytable SET UNUSED mycol;


Sinardy


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Set unused column back to normal

2002-02-20 Thread Sinard Xing

Hi all,


Any command setting back the unused column back to used ?

Negate this command please

ALTER TABLE mytable SET UNUSED mycol;


Sinardy


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Re: Library Cache wait -- Who is holding this latch

2002-02-20 Thread Anjo Kolk

I think that nobody is holding the latch anymore. WAITSTATE = WAITED SHORT.

Anjo.

George Schlossnagle wrote:

> You shouldn't need to do that. To find out who the holders are of all latches 
>currently being aited on by ithers you could do
>
> SELECT lh.sid, ln.name, sq.sql_text
> FROM v$latchholder lh, v$sqlarea sq, v$session se, v$session_wait sw, v$latchname ln
> WHERE sw.event = 'latch free'
> AND sw.p1raw = lh.laddr
> AND ln.latch# = sw.p2
> AND se.sid = lh.sid
> AND se.sql_address = sq.address
> AND se.sql_hash_value = sq.hash_value
>
> // George Schlossnagle
> // Principal Consultant
> // OmniTI, Inc http://www.omniti.com
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> // 1024D/1100A5A0  1370 F70A 9365 96C9 2F5E 56C2 B2B9 262F 1100 A5A0
>
> On Tuesday, February 19, 2002, at 11:28 AM, Diego Cutrone wrote:
>
>  you'll have to take a library cache dump and look for the latch number 
>displayed in the P1 Field of your query.
>
>  HTH
>  Greetings
>  Diego Cutrone
>
>  - Original Message -
>  From: Gupta, Brijesh
>  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>  Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 12:08 PM
>  Subject: Library Cache wait -- Who is holding this latch
>
>  Hi All
>  I have a session which is waiting for Library Cache latch for 6 hours. How 
>can I find who is holding this latch.
>  This session is executing a pl/sql script ( Not package ). Latch#  60 is 
>library cache latch.
>
>
>  Here is from v$session_wait
>
>1  select * from v$session_wait
>2* where sid=1005
>  PROD>/
>  Press Enter to Continue 
>
>  SIDSEQ# EVENT  P1TEXT
>  --- --- -- 
>-
>  P1RAWP2TEXT 
>   P2 P2RAW
>   
> --- --
>  
>   Wait  Sec in
>  P3TEXTP3 
>P3RAW  time   Wait  STATE
>   --- 
> --
> 10055987 latch free address  
> @9925
>  0701C0A5E228 number 
>   60 003C
>  tries  0 00 
>  -1  32,962 WAITED SHORT
>
>
>
>
>  Thanks
>
>
>  
>  Brijesh Gupta
>  Oracle Production DBA


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Re: Rollback Segments

2002-02-20 Thread Bjørn Engsig

On Tuesday 19 February 2002 20:53, bill thater wrote:

>
> i had to do a bunch with SQL*Calc because damagement understood
> Lotus123.  it was less than enjoyable.;-)

I was porting SQL*Calc to Unix - that was even less than enjoyable!

Rgds, Bjørn.
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RE: Disable certain users from login to database while applying H

2002-02-20 Thread CHAN Chor Ling Catherine (CSC)

Hi Hemant,

Thanks for your earlier reply. 

I will not lock APPS, APPLSYS and APPLSYSPUB accounts as these accounts are
needed for the HR patches. 

In my company, we do have in-house applications which use client-server
forms/reports to access (read-only privilege) the HR tables. We created user
accounts for these applications. The last time when I applied HR patches, I
encountered deadlock despite shutting down the concurrent manager, forms
server, report server , apache server, web db 2.5 server etc.  I suspected
some of my users were accessing the HR tables via sqlplus/client-server
forms/reports, thereby causing deadlocks.

This time round, I will lock the user accounts which use client-server
forms/reports to access (read-only privilege) the HR tables. 

Hope it helps. 

Regds,
Catherine
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To: CHAN Chor Ling Catherine (CSC)
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Subject:RE: Disable certain users from login to
database while applying H


Catherine

Which database accounts will you lock ?  You can't lock
APPS, APPLSYS and
APPLSYSPUB
as APPLSYSPUB and APPS will be used by all users and APPS
and APPLSYS will
be used by the patch.

Hemant K Chitale
Principal DBA
Chartered Semiconductor Manufacturing Ltd


"CHAN Chor Ling Catherine (CSC)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
19/02/2002 05:23 PM
Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Hi Gurus,

Thanks for replying to my qn.

"Startup Database in Restricted mode" will not work (for
more details, pls
refer to the email below).

The following solutions :
1.  Database ON LOGON Trigger => don't know whether it will
work
2.  Lock Database Account => I am going to use this
solution.
3.  Change Database Account Password => I believe it will
work

In our Oracle HR, we also support oracle client-server
forms/reports, so
I've to disable their accounts so that they do not access
the HR database
using sqlplus/forms/reports while I am applying patches.


Regds,
Catherine
 -Original Message-
 From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent:  Tuesday, February 19,
2002 2:13 PM
 To:   Multiple recipients of list
ORACLE-L
 Subject:   Re: Disable certain
users from login to
database while applying Human


 As you are talking of Oracle Apps, NONE
of the
suggested
solutions :
 1.  Database ON LOGON Trigger
 2.  Lock Database Account
 3.  Change Database Account Password
 4.  Startup Database in Restricted mode
 would work.

 The users connect to the Database in
the APPS schema
-- this
is the
 "universal"
 schema that Oracle Apps uses.  The
Patch requires APPS
so
Restricted
 doesn't
 help (unless you grant Restricted to
APPS in which
case all
the users can
 logon).
 Ditto about locking, changing password
or writing a
trigger
on the APPS
 schema.

 What you can do are :
 1. Shutdown the Apache server for the
Self-Service
Modules
 2. Shutdown the Forms server for the
Forms Module
 3. Shutdown the Concurrent Managers.

 All of the above would affect ALL
users.

 Alternatively, login to the Application
as the System
Administrator user
 and
 change the Application User Passwords
for the users
whom you
want disabled.
 Change the passwords back to a default
(WEL

RE: Disable certain users from login to database while applying H

2002-02-20 Thread hemantchitale


Catherine

Which database accounts will you lock ?  You can't lock APPS, APPLSYS and
APPLSYSPUB
as APPLSYSPUB and APPS will be used by all users and APPS and APPLSYS will
be used by the patch.

Hemant K Chitale
Principal DBA
Chartered Semiconductor Manufacturing Ltd


"CHAN Chor Ling Catherine (CSC)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>19/02/2002 05:23 PM
Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Hi Gurus,

Thanks for replying to my qn.

"Startup Database in Restricted mode" will not work (for more details, pls
refer to the email below).

The following solutions :
1.  Database ON LOGON Trigger => don't know whether it will work
2.  Lock Database Account => I am going to use this solution.
3.  Change Database Account Password => I believe it will work

In our Oracle HR, we also support oracle client-server forms/reports, so
I've to disable their accounts so that they do not access the HR database
using sqlplus/forms/reports while I am applying patches.


Regds,
Catherine
 -Original Message-
 From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent:  Tuesday, February 19, 2002 2:13 PM
 To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject:   Re: Disable certain users from login to
database while applying Human


 As you are talking of Oracle Apps, NONE of the
suggested
solutions :
 1.  Database ON LOGON Trigger
 2.  Lock Database Account
 3.  Change Database Account Password
 4.  Startup Database in Restricted mode
 would work.

 The users connect to the Database in the APPS schema
-- this
is the
 "universal"
 schema that Oracle Apps uses.  The Patch requires APPS
so
Restricted
 doesn't
 help (unless you grant Restricted to APPS in which
case all
the users can
 logon).
 Ditto about locking, changing password or writing a
trigger
on the APPS
 schema.

 What you can do are :
 1. Shutdown the Apache server for the Self-Service
Modules
 2. Shutdown the Forms server for the Forms Module
 3. Shutdown the Concurrent Managers.

 All of the above would affect ALL users.

 Alternatively, login to the Application as the System
Administrator user
 and
 change the Application User Passwords for the users
whom you
want disabled.
 Change the passwords back to a default (WELCOME)
later.

 However, what you SHOULD do, per Oracle Support, is 1.
Shutdown 2. Shutdown
 3. Shutdown
 as I have listed above.
 If you are familiar with Oracle Applications Patching
and
are comfortable
 with reading
 the Patch drivers, you can figure out what database
objects
are being
 modified/updated/created
 and what Forms/Reports/HTML etc files are being
modified/created by the
 patch.
 Then you can take an intelligent decision  should
you
allow users to
 logon when
 applying the patch ?

 Hemant K Chitale
 Principal DBA
 Chartered Semiconductor Manufacturing Ltd


 "CHAN Chor Ling Catherine (CSC)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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  Human












 Hi Gurus,

 I need to disable certain users from login to database
while
I apply the
 Human Resources Patches for our Oracle HR 11i
Applications.
 Which is the best way to do it ? Should I write
on-logon
trigger to disable
 or should I take away their privileges to logon to
report/forms/sqlplus ?
 What about the rest of the DBA Applications
administrator ?
What do U guys
 do to solve the dead-lock problem (If my users access
the HR
tables while I
 apply the patches, I will encounter dead-lock problem)
?

 Please advise. Thanks.

 Regds,
 New Bee
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 Ple

Re: Rollback Segments

2002-02-20 Thread Bjørn Engsig

Bambi,

HLI and OCI - that reminds me of another nice one from the dark ages.  Some 
of you around here, who consider yourself "old" in terms of Oracle may 
remember, the oci call osql3(), which was later superceeded by oparse() 
(version 6/7-ish, I think).  Well, the reason for the old call being called 
osql3() was that it was new with version 3!  In version two, osql() was 
found, but it was limited to 6000 bytes of SQL statement text, where osql3() 
made it possible to go to to 64k.

Rgds, Bjørn.

On Tuesday 19 February 2002 20:18, you wrote:
> Bjorn, you old coot, you've got me beat.  I do remember the UFI prompt
> though... User Friendly Interface... and the "real geeks" would program
> their own SQL*Plus environment using HLI (now OCI) with the OROL option
> which would allow the rollback of a single statement rather than a whole
> transaction.  Now, in my day, we had fire but we had to make our own coal
> and we kept warm on the hides of old terminals that used to roam the
> plains. What were things like in your day?
>
> Bambi.
>
>
> -Original Message-
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>
> There must be somebody beside myself remembering version 3, which did not
> have read consistency - the great new feature of version 4.  In 3, doing
>
> UFI> insert into emp select * from emp;
>
> would cause anything from having 28 rows in emp till having and endless
> loop
>
> in the kernel only finishing when your database file ran full...
>
> Yep - we are some old bitter men around here...
>
> /Bjørn.
>
> On Tuesday 19 February 2002 06:43, you wrote:
> > I remember the BI.ORA  (Before-Image) file, IOR and ODS in Oracle 5.
> >
> > Hemant K Chitale
> > Principal DBA
> > Chartered Semiconductor Manufacturing Ltd
> >
> >
> > Rachel Carmichael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 19/02/2002 06:18 AM
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RE: Email --> DB (export/parse)

2002-02-20 Thread אדר יחיאל

Hello Kitri

The outlook export have indeed an option for csv files.
You select export/import, export to file, select the folders and then select
CSV format.
It needs something from the ValuePack to work.

Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
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> 
> Check out Import/Export feature of MS Outlook (File-> Import and Export).
> I
> believe there is an option to export Outlook items to a .csv format file. 
> I have not used it, as this feature is not installed on my PC but the
> online
> Help describes what it does. 
> 
> HTH,
> 
> 
> - Kirti  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Does anyone know of a utility that would allow me to
> export email, from say Outlook or Outlook Express,
> directly to a database or to a flat file (delimited)
> for import into a database? It doesn't need to be
> fancy, basically just date/time, to/from, subject,
> body.
> 
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RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Leo K

Thanks for the information Suhen.  Seems like my company purchaser got the wrong 
information when he bought the license.

Regards,
Leo

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> Leo,
> 
> The named user license is concurrent per session/connections to the
> database.
> Although you have 1 userid defined you will not be allowed to have more than
> 5 users connect to the instance simultaneously.
> 
> Regards
> $uhen
> 
> While we are on the topic of oracle licensing, can someone help to clear up
> some doubts on named user licensing that I have?
> 
> We have an existing 5-named user license for a small oracle 8i (8.1.5)
> database we have, but right now, it seems to be restricting the number of
> user sessions to 5 sessions even though the sessions are all using the same
> userid.  
> 
> Is this how the named user license is supposed to work? I was under the
> impression that the named user license was for restricting the number of
> users which you can create for a database and not the number of sessions.
> Or am I missing out on some settings/parameters to be defined?  
> 
> Regards,
> Leo
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> > I suggest you talk to your Oracle rep before getting started.
> > 
> > 'Concurrent' licensing is no longer a valid licensing model for Oracle.
> > 
> > They sell by named user or per CPU.  Their criteria for making you
> > use the CPU licensing is rather broad. 
> > 
> > Just went through a licensing audit here.  Lots o fun, let me tell you.
> > 
> > While on the subject, does anyone have a good app/spreadsheet
> > or template of some kind for tracking Oracle license use?
> > 
> > It needs to track EE and Std versions, named and CPU licenses,
> > servers, databases on the servers, users on the databases.
> > 
> > I've cobbled my own stuff together from bits of string and baling wire,
> > but I'm getting tired of messing with modifying SQL everytime I want
> > a different view of the data, or to see if I can squeeze another app
> > in without licensing more users.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Jared
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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