Re: How to get unique value using AWK?

2004-01-22 Thread Ed

On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 10:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> My manager wants to get all the unique wait events from the trace file.
> I tried the below but how do i get DISTICT wait event name?
> 
> Any help would be really appreciated.
> 

grep -i WAIT devdb1_ora_989.trc_orig|awk '{print $3" " $4 " " $5 " "$6}'
| sort | uniq -c

Or something similar should work.


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RE: How to get unique value using AWK?

2004-01-22 Thread Ed
On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 10:34, Simpson, Ken wrote:

> How about piping it through uniq? 

uniq normally assumes the input is sorted.  See my other response.

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Re: URGENT REPORTS

2003-09-26 Thread Ed Lewis



Gene,    
    Good stuff. Thanks for the tip.
        ed

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Re: Offshore protests

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RE: OCP Architecture question

2003-08-15 Thread Ed Sherman



Ryan,
 
I will 
research the answer but I have an urgent question.
 
Do you 
have SelfTest Software for the SQL and PL/SQL test or do you have the 
Architecure and Administration SelfTest Software?
 
Thanks,
Ed

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  ORACLE-LSubject: OCP Architecture question
  Im using the self test software and here is a 
  question... I dont like the answers. Please tell me if Im wrong.
   
  Which Three methods can be used to avoid snapshot 
  too old errors. This is for the 8i test. 
   
  1. User larger extents
  2. Increase MAXEXTENTS for existing rollback 
  segments
  3. Create rollback segments with higher optimal 
  values
  4. Create rollback segments iwth high 
  minextents
  5. Run long queries when transaction processing 
  is high. 
   
  Ruling out 5 is obvious. The test says its. 
  
   
  1,3,4
   
  How does using large extents help this? What 
  about a higher minextents value? 


Re: "union all" problems

2003-08-01 Thread Ed Lewis



Yes, this is a trace file that 
contains
ORA-07445: exception encountered: core 
dump...
 
 

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  Jamadagni, Rajendra 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 3:39 
  PM
  Subject: RE: "union all" problems
  
  What does the trace file says on the server ??? do you see a ora-7445 
  trace file?
   
  Raj
   
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 2:59 
PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
"union all" problems
Hi,
    We have a query which 
uses
a "union all".  After upgrading 
to
a patch release of Oracle this 
query
no  longer works. We get the
following error :
ERROR at line 1:ORA-03113: end-of-file 
on communication channel
ORA-24323: value not allowedError accessing package 
DBMS_APPLICATION_INFOERROR:ORA-03114: not connected to ORACLE
 
I've searched metalink, but have been unsuccessful
finding a solution.
 
As a quick fix, we changed the "union all" to a "union",
and that worked.
We'll still like to find the root cause though.
 
The environment is AIX 4.3.3.  It worked with
Oracle 8.1.7.2, but after upgrading to 8.1.7.4
we get this error.
 
    Has anyone experienced this ? thanks.
 
        ed
 


"union all" problems

2003-07-31 Thread Ed Lewis



Hi,
    We have a query which 
uses
a "union all".  After upgrading 
to
a patch release of Oracle this query
no  longer works. We get the
following error :
ERROR at line 1:ORA-03113: end-of-file on 
communication channel
ORA-24323: value not allowedError accessing package 
DBMS_APPLICATION_INFOERROR:ORA-03114: not connected to ORACLE
 
I've searched metalink, but have been unsuccessful
finding a solution.
 
As a quick fix, we changed the "union all" to a "union",
and that worked.
We'll still like to find the root cause though.
 
The environment is AIX 4.3.3.  It worked with
Oracle 8.1.7.2, but after upgrading to 8.1.7.4
we get this error.
 
Has anyone experienced this ? thanks.
 
        ed
 


Re: Upgrade gotchas - 8.1.7.4->9.2.0.3 on Windows

2003-06-19 Thread Ed Lewis
Title: Upgrade gotchas - 8.1.7.4->9.2.0.3 on Windows



Lisa,
    Just a follow-up question. 

I've set the ORA_SID_PFILE parameter in 
the
registry, but do not use a password file. 
When I start up the database it looks for the 
PFILE in the default directory instead of the 
path
specified in the registry. So, I'm required 
to
provide the  "pfile= " in my startup command, 
or
place the "pfile" in the default 
directory.
 
From what I understand, the value of 
ORA_SID_PFILE
in the registry will be used at database 
startup
automatically, so the "pfile = " parameter 
is
not required. Is this correct ?
 
I've checked metalink, but have been 
unsuccessful
in finding a solution. 
        
                
        thanks.
        
        ed
 
 
 

  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 12:40 
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  Subject: Upgrade gotchas - 
  8.1.7.4->9.2.0.3 on Windows
  
  Thought I'd let you know since a couple of people 
  are planning upgrades to 9.2 on Windows (that I've heard from) - here's the 
  gotchas I ran into with my upgrade.  The databases were fine but other 
  stuff broke, of course.
  After upgrading, there's crap left in the registry 
  that refers to the older version of Oracle.  Backup Exec doesn't like 
  that.  I had to delete the old oracle_home out of the registry and 
  reboot. Suddenly all my backups were working.  Of course I only run one 
  oracle_home so I was able to remove this entry without consequence.
  Also, the install doesn't set the right path for 
  SQLPATH:  it sets it to a unix directory, \dbs.  Once I changed it 
  to OH\bin, my perl scripts were able to connect to sqlplus. They were failing 
  before...
  It also doesn't set ORA_sid_PWFILE at all.  
  This value needs to be there and be correct if you want to run startup without 
  specifying the pfile on the command line.
  I'm not getting any emails from the list for some 
  reason so I don't know if this will be well received... but I hope this helps 
  at least one person. 
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RE: RMAN - Some basic Qs.

2003-04-01 Thread Ed Bittel
> Qs.4 Is it easy to integrate 3rd part tools like Legato etc with RMAN 
> for enabling taking of backups onto backup devices OR does it need an
extensive setup ?

I found it to be fairly easy to get RMAN working with Legato NetWorker.  We
had to go through a few hoops to get it working on a Veritas Cluster, but
the problems were related to implementing Legato NetWorker on the cluster
rather than the RMAN/Legato interface.  The setup and configuration is well
documented.

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enabling taking 
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RE: veritas backup via RMAN troubles

2003-03-28 Thread Ed Bittel
Title:  veritas backup via RMAN troubles









I had a remarkably similar experience a
few months ago with Legato NetWorker and performed all of the steps you listed
with the same results.  The problem turned out to be very simple. 
The SA installed the 64-bit version of the Legato Networker client because it
is a 64-bit server.  However, we were running a 32-bit version of Oracle
on it.   Installing the 32-bit client solved the problem.  

 

I am mentioning this since your post did
not indicate if you are using 64-bit Oracle on that server. 

 

 

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Subject: veritas backup via RMAN
troubles

 

 

AIX 5.1, oracle 9ir2(9.2.0.1),   veritas
4.5 

followed instructions for installing veritas on disk,
got the agent, did NOT relink oracle executable, but ran the oracle install
script so the link from /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/libobk.a64 is linked to
$ORACLE_HOME/lib/libobk.a

Set(and unset multiple times), LIBPATH,
LD_LIBRARY_PATH. 

Continue to get ORA-27211 Failed to load media
management library. 

Been thru RMAN chapters multiple times, I'm totally
out of ideas(and read every damn document on metalstink about this error).

I've also tried to use the dummy MML library and that
works fine. 

What the heck am I doing wrong? 

thanks, joe 








RE: Oracle Performance Tuning Exam

2003-03-04 Thread Ed
Wow, I'm actually sending two messages in quick succession...

The SQL test was extremely easy if you have any SQL experience in the
"real world".  I never understood why people said not to take it first,
it was by far the easiest test of the five.

There probably is no best test to take first.  It varies by person.

Best,

Ed


On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 10:45, DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote:
> David - I haven't taken all the exams yet, but the advice I heard was not to
> take the SQL exam first. On the surface it sounds easy, but it tends to be
> more of a SQL trivia test. For most of us practicing DBAs, I heard that the
> DBA exam tends to be the easiest, and is a good place to start and build
> your confidence. Naturally I didn't do it that way, but from what I have
> seen it is good advice. Depending on what you work with most, some exams may
> be easier for you than others. Perhaps some on the list who have taken all 5
> can provide you more opinions. 
> 
> 
> 
> Dennis Williams 
> DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA 
> Lifetouch, Inc. 
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> 
> There are totally five exams we have to pass to get certified, I'd like to
> know which exam should I take first and what next in order?  
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> David
> 
>  
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RE: 9i OCP Upgrade Exam - Again

2003-03-03 Thread Ed
I took this 4-5 months ago and passed with a 97%, so it's not
impossible.  It was about twice as hard as any of the 8i tests. It
covers a huge amount of material, and it assumes you have knowledge of
many things that were NOT on the 8i certification objectives.  I think I
studied about three weeks in my spare time. You will want the Benjamin
book.  To me the inaccuracies in the certification books have always
jumped out and been obvious, so I wouldn't worry about it much.

Also, the STS practice test was very useful.

Best of luck,

Ed


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> am worried about maximizing my time as time has an opportunity cost - 
> I have heard that the Benjamin book is incorrect in places.  I think
> Robert's book, the self-tests and Metalink, Oracle Docs for
> clarification works for me.  I also have the basic OCP 9i exam kit
> (not upgrade).  
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Re: DBArtisan

2003-03-03 Thread Ed Lewis
Suzy,
We use it here, but only for Oracle.
I highly recommend it. It's very useful
for everyday tasks,  for reverse-engineering 
database objects, as well as other things. 
The support has also been good.


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> 
> Anyone using DBArtisan?  Any good/bad feedback about this product?  
> Someone in our office is looking at the Cross-Platform version that
> works with Oracle, Sybase and MSSQL.
> 
> Thanks,
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RE: Skipping a table on import (Using FGAC)

2003-02-20 Thread Ed Bittel
Suggestion:  Investigate using FGAC.

I just spent part of my day working on a solution to a very similar problem.
I wanted to do a user level export but restrict the records from one table
based on the value of a timestamp field.  I did not want to have multiple
exports.  I originally considered a combination of tablespace and table
level exports, but it made the nightly import process rather difficult to
perform the way I would like.  

The solution I settled on was to use Oracle's fine-grained access control
(FGAC).  This feature has been available since 8i.  I found FGAC a bit
difficult to get my head around, but I had no problems after I worked
through the example.  I got the idea from Metalink DOC_ID: 162914.1 which
explains how to use FGAC to skip a table during an export.  I also referred
to the Application Developer's Guide documentation. 

The effect of the FAGC I implemented is restrict which records the EXPORT
user can see in a table.  This effects only the EXPORT user.  All other
users see all of the records.  

RECORD COUNT ISSUED RUN AS ME (I SEE ALL RECORDS)
SQL> select count(*) from bigjet.message;

  COUNT(*)
--
342559

Export run as user EXPORT (HE SEES FILTERED RECORDS)

exp export/freewilly@WHALEJET file=test.dmp tables=bigjet.message

About to export specified tables via Conventional Path ...
Current user changed to BIGJET
EXP-00079: Data in table "MESSAGE" is protected. Conventional path may only
be exporting partial table.
. . exporting tableMESSAGE  52445 rows exported
EXP-00091: Exporting questionable statistics.
Export terminated successfully with warnings.

The basic steps I followed are listed below. 

/
  CREATE Function to return predicate 
  used to filter records for the EXPORT user
 /
CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION export.export_message(obj_schema varchar2,
obj_name varchar2)
RETURN VARCHAR2 IS d_predicate VARCHAR2(2000);

BEGIN
  IF sys_context('USERENV','SESSION_USER')='EXPORT' THEN
d_predicate := 'SYS_LAST_CHANGED_TS > TRUNC(SYSDATE-2) ';
  ELSE
d_predicate := '';
  END IF;
  RETURN d_predicate;
END export_message;
/

/
  CREATE FGAC Policy Group 
 /
EXECUTE DBMS_RLS.CREATE_POLICY_GROUP('BIGJET','MESSAGE','MESSAGE_GROUP');

/
  CREATE FGAC Policy in the Policy Group
 /

EXECUTE
DBMS_RLS.ADD_GROUPED_POLICY('BIGJET','MESSAGE','MESSAGE_GROUP','EXPORT_POL',
'EXPORT','EXPORT_MESSAGE');

/
  ENABLE FGAC Policy
 /

EXECUTE DBMS_RLS.ENABLE_GROUPED_POLICY
('BIGJET','MESSAGE','MESSAGE_GROUP','EXPORT_POL',TRUE);

/
  DISABLE FGAC Policy
 /

 EXECUTE DBMS_RLS.ENABLE_GROUPED_POLICY
('BIGJET','MESSAGE','MESSAGE_GROUP','EXPORT_POL',FALSE);





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> way to skip
> certain tables during an import?
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RMAN: delete archivelog... backed up 1 times to tape

2003-02-20 Thread Ed Bittel
I am trying to use the DELETE ARCHIVELOG command that is available in
version 9.2.0.1. The complete syntax I wish to use is this command: 
   RMAN>delete archivelog until time 'trunc(sysdate)-2' backed up 1
times to tape; 

I have tried this as part of a backup script and as a standalone command
after allocating a maintenance channel, but it doesn't work.  Furthermore,
this command DOES NOT return records: 

   RMAN> list archivelog all backed up 1 times to tape; 

But this command DOES return records: 

  RMAN> list archivelog all backed up 0 times to tape; 

I know I have backups of archivelogs on tape because they are reported when
I issue this command: 

  RMAN> list backup of archivelog from time 'sysdate-3' device type sbt;


Does anyone know what is going on here? 


Thanks, 

Ed 

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Hot Backups or RMAN

2003-02-19 Thread Ed
I'm sure this topic has come up before.  I don't need to know the difference 
between these backup methods.  I am more curious about which is preferred.  
>From what I can tell, I'd be a fool not to use RMAN whenever possible.

What experiences have you all had with these in production environments?

Best,


Ed


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Re: AIX 4.3.3 / 8.1.7 & Timed Statistics & Tuning Question

2003-02-06 Thread Ed Lewis
Title: AIX 4.3.3 / 8.1.7 & Timed Statistics & Tuning Question



Lisa,
    We've been using 
timed_statistics=true
at our site for over 
a year, without any problems.
 
        
ed

  - Original Message - 
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  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:23 
  AM
  Subject: AIX 4.3.3 / 8.1.7 & Timed 
  Statistics & Tuning Question
  
  Good morning everyone - 
  Quick poll for those of you on 8.1.7 and AIX 
  4.3.3:  
  Do you have TIMED_STATISTICS = true?  Have you 
  encountered any problems with it? 
  The databases I inherited have this set false all 
  over the place, hence my tuning efforts are really limited.  However I 
  don't want to change it without checking around first. 
  And a tuning question: 
  This environment (peoplesoft) is very very low on 
  memory.  When the app servers and databases are up there's less than 50MB 
  of memory free.  Adding hardware is not a choice here. 
  The databases have 100MB set for the SGA.  It 
  really looks like not much thought went into some of the parm settings.  
  
  What I've read about tuning says that you must have 
  a goal in mind.  Well, afaik nothing is "broken", nothing is suffering - 
  then again, no one really paid much attention to Oracle.  It was up, 
  fine, move on.  Am I on the wrong path if my goal for tuning is to figure 
  out if I can reduce the size of the SGA and redo logs without adversely 
  affecting performance? 
  Any comments are appreciated.  Thanks everyone 
  
  Lisa Koivu Oracle Dingbat Administrator Fairfield Resorts, Inc. 5259 
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Size of a Long Field

2003-02-05 Thread Ed Bittel








How do you determine the size, in bytes, of a long field?

 

Please. No tape measure jokes.

 

Ed

 








Re: Re:Resource Management

2002-10-18 Thread Ed Lewis
Dick,
 Which version of Oracle ?
Was your test with 2 different user ID's ?
Our problem is that all users log on
with the same user id, which seems
to diminish the product's effectiveness.

thanks.
    ed


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> Kirti,
>
> I've toyed with the product due to a perceived need here.  The
experiment
> was to have two users loggin to the database both running very nasty
queries (we
> have the GOD of obfuscated SQL here).  On the first pass, with no resource
> management in place both queries ran successfully in 30 minutes but boy
did the
> server take a hit (4 processors with < 10% idle across them).  On the
second
> pass we put resource management in place for one user really clamping down
on
> it.  The first user's query completed in 10 minutes where as the second
user
> took 45 minutes to complete and the server didn't even break a sweat (one
> processor was 100% idle throughout).  I'd like to do more with it, but
> PeopleSoft does things in a way the precludes resource manager from being
> effective.
>
> Dick Goulet
>
> Reply Separator
> Author: "Deshpande; Kirti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date:   10/18/2002 8:00 AM
>
> Hello Listers,
>
> Anyone using Oracle's Database Resource Manager?
> Does it really work as outlined in the Docs?
> Care to share your experience?
>
> Thanks,
>
> - Kirti
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Re: Re:RE: Re[2]: controlling CPU usage through Oracle

2002-08-29 Thread Ed Lewis
Title: RE: Re:RE: Re[2]: controlling CPU usage through Oracle



Tony,
    No, as of now it does not have 
that functionality.
    Thanks for your 
input.
        
   ed

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:33 
  PM
  Subject: RE: Re:RE: Re[2]: controlling 
  CPU usage through Oracle
  
  Just some thoughts.  Does your OS have any domain 
  partitioning features that you can use to create separate "servers"?  You 
  could carve out a portion of the CPU resources into a small domain and 
  dedicate it to your problem child.  The net effect would be to throttle 
  the problem database by denying it the resources used by the 
others.
  How about using processor sets do achieve the same 
  thing.  I'm thinking along the lines of two sets, one with a very low 
  number of CPU's.  You would then bind your problem child to the small set 
  and the rest to the other.
  HTH Tony Aponte 



Re: Re:RE: Re[2]: controlling CPU usage through Oracle

2002-08-29 Thread Ed Lewis

Dick and Dennis,
The application here is the same, where all
users are logged in as the same user via
the application server.
But in my case, I want to throttle all the
users who use this id. Wouldn't ORM be beneficial in that
situation ? thanks.

        ed

> Dennis,
>
> You've got that right.  Damned PeopleSoft!  We were hoping we might be
able
> to leverage ORM to control PeopleSorft query users.  No such luck since
everyone
> is PeopleSoft.  Now on the other hand, if you've got the LUXURY of having
people
> logged in with their own usernames you certainly can throttle down those
you
> want, almost to a crawl.
>
dick goulet

> Dick - My understanding is that Oracle Resource Manager controls resources
> based on userid. In other words, if a third-party application or an
> application server uses the same Oracle userid for access, then Oracle
> Resource Manager wouldn't help much. Is that what you've seen?
> Dennis Williams
> DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
>
> Ed,
>
> The only way your going to do this is through Oracle Resource Manager.
> You'll need an 8.1.x Enterprise database.  Then you can setup your
resource
> plans and groups to manage who gets how much CPU at a time.  Any of the
> operating level tools out there cannot get down to the level of
granularity
> your
> asking for since all of the activity happens within Oracle.  All those
tools
> can
> do is control the amount of CPU that Oracle gets which has a global effect
> that
> hampers all users of the database.
>
> Dick Goulet

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Re: Re[2]: controlling CPU usage through Oracle

2002-08-29 Thread Ed Lewis

Kevin,
Thanks for your input.
Just to clarify;  I only want to control this
one database. I want to limit its resources
so it does not impact the other 4 databases on
the box. So, in that case would resource
manager be beneficial ?
Also, besides profiles, and resource manager,
does anyone know of any other tools provided
by Oracle which would limit resources ?
Or, any 3rd party tools that my be beneficial ?

I thank everyone for providing their input;
it's much appreciated.


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I don't think Resource Manager is going to do the trick here (I just read
about it over the last week while preparing for OCP exam 4).  Resource
Manager would work great for a single database but Ed is trying to divvy up
resources between 5 databases.

I don't have any good solution.  I suppose if everything running on this one
database was less important than anything on the other 4 databases, you
could renice the one database.  I think that would be ok provided all
components of the one database were at the same nice level.

Kevin Kennedy
First Point Energy Corporation

If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE!  What can this mean?

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Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 9:52 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

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From: Ed Lewis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 4:18 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: controlling CPU usage through Oracle


Hi,
I'm looking for a way to control CPU usage of
particular queries on a database.
After exploring, and implementing ways of optimizing the code,
these queries can run anywhere from 45 seconds
to 2 minutes.
This database is 1 of 5 on this box. So, although it's important
to build effective queries, it's also important in this
environment that these queries do not impact the other
4 databases.
What I want to do is place a limit on CPU usage
without terminating the query. I've looked at profiles
with the "cpu_per_call" and "cpu_per_session" settings.
I have never used profiles, but from what I understand,
these will kill the session once they reach a threshold.
I'm also looking at database resource management.
This may be more appropriate for this situation.
Has anyone used this, and if so what are you
experiences ? Would you recommend it ?
Would the only way to control CPU usage on this
box, be through the operating system ?

I welcome any suggestions. I appreciate your time.

The environment is Oracle 8.1.7.2, AIX 4.3.3.

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Re: rman question(allocating channels)

2002-08-28 Thread Ed Lewis



Joe,
    I have the same situation.
I my case I used 2 channels, and
so around a 25-30% decrease in
the backup time for a 30gb database.
   Once I increased it to 3 
channels
the payback was minimal. It also
became very cpu intensive, 
so I kept the setting at 2.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  JOE 
  TESTA 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 8:38 
  AM
  Subject: rman question(allocating 
  channels)
  
  I've tried to find this in the docs to no avail.
   
  If I'm writing out an RMAN backup to one disk(yes this is not ideal), 
  then does it make sense to allocate multiple channels?
   
  Are multiple channels related to CPUs or to destinations?
   
  thanks, joe
   
   


Re: controlling CPU usage through Oracle

2002-08-28 Thread Ed Lewis



Raj,
    Thanks for your 
input.
From what I understand with profiles, 
the session will be terminated once a 
threshold is reached.
    In this particular case, I 
cannot 
terminate the session. I need to be 
able
to control the CPU usage of a session, 
without
ending it. 
 If this cannot be done 
within Oracle, then
maybe it can be accomplished through the 
OS.
 
        
thanks.
        
                
ed
 
 
        
         

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jamadagni, Rajendra 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 4:48 
  PM
  Subject: RE: controlling CPU usage 
  through Oracle
  
  You could use profiles to control CPU usage as well, more info is in 
  manuals.
   
  Raj
  __
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  Jamadagni  
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 4:18 
PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
controlling CPU usage through Oracle
Hi,
    I'm looking for a way to 
control CPU usage of
particular queries on a database.
    After exploring, and 
implementing ways of optimizing the code,
these queries can run anywhere from 45 
seconds
to 2 minutes.  
    This database is 1 of 5 on 
this box. So, although it's important
to build effective queries, it's also important 
in this 
environment that these queries do not impact 
the other
4 databases. 
    What I want to do is place a 
limit on CPU usage
without terminating the query. I've looked at 
profiles
with the "cpu_per_call" and "cpu_per_session" 
settings.
I have never used profiles, but from what I 
understand, 
these will kill the session once they reach a 
threshold.
    I'm also looking at database 
resource management.
This may be more appropriate for this 
situation.
    Has anyone used this, and if 
so what are you
experiences ? Would you recommend it 
?
Would the only way to 
control CPU usage on this
box, be through the operating system 
?
 
I welcome any suggestions. I appreciate your 
time.
 
The environment is Oracle 8.1.7.2, AIX 
4.3.3.
 


controlling CPU usage through Oracle

2002-08-27 Thread Ed Lewis



Hi,
    I'm looking for a way to control 
CPU usage of
particular queries on a database.
    After exploring, and 
implementing ways of optimizing the code,
these queries can run anywhere from 45 
seconds
to 2 minutes.  
    This database is 1 of 5 on this 
box. So, although it's important
to build effective queries, it's also important in 
this 
environment that these queries do not impact the 
other
4 databases. 
    What I want to do is place a 
limit on CPU usage
without terminating the query. I've looked at 
profiles
with the "cpu_per_call" and "cpu_per_session" 
settings.
I have never used profiles, but from what I 
understand, 
these will kill the session once they reach a 
threshold.
    I'm also looking at database 
resource management.
This may be more appropriate for this 
situation.
    Has anyone used this, and if so 
what are you
experiences ? Would you recommend it ?
Would the only way to 
control CPU usage on this
box, be through the operating system ?
 
I welcome any suggestions. I appreciate your 
time.
 
The environment is Oracle 8.1.7.2, AIX 
4.3.3.
 


General Replication question

2002-08-26 Thread Ed

I'm curious, based on a discussion I had with a DBA here at work, how
many people use the replication features of Oracle.  I often see
replication listed as one of the selling points of Oracle, but it's also
very hard to get a class on replication because they are always closing
classes for poor registration.

How common is replication (basic or advanced)?  It makes more sense to
use simple snapshots than DB links for what we are doing, but given that
our support from Oracle has been TERRIBLE with snapshot problems, I now
wonder if anyone uses them.  We are switching to db links, but that can
pose potential performance issues with, for example, joins across the db
link.

Best,

Ed


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export with "first rows"

2002-08-15 Thread Ed Lewis



Hello,
    We have the optimizer mode set 
to "first rows"
on our (25gb) database to meet a vendor 
requirement. 
When I do an 
"direct" export, it runs for 6-7 hours.
 
When I change the optimizer mode to "choose" 
it
runs in around an hour.
It also runs in an hour when I set 
the the optimizer
mode to "first rows", and run stats on the 
"sys" schema.
 
I'm curious why this occurs. Has anyone 
experienced
this ? Any ideas why this happens ? Is this normal 
behavior ?
I could not find anything on metalink. 
thanks.
 
Oracle 8.1.7.2, aix 4.3.3.
 
        
    ed  


visual workbench problem

2002-07-10 Thread Ed Lewis



Hello,
    I'm installing "Oracle's Visual 
Workbench
for Oracle Procedural gateways for IBM 
Mqseries"
version 8.0.4.1.0 on W2k. (that's a 
mouthful)
 
When I run the program I get the 
following error : 
"error while connecting to the repository, protocol 
violation"
 
I searched metalink for a solution, and one 
recommendation
was to replace the "class111.zip" from the 
install,
with the 8.1.7 version of the same 
file.
 
After doing that, I ran the program and got the 
following :
 
"the database has no (compatible) repository 
installed.
  Do you want to install/upgrade a repository 
? "
At this point I was not allowed to respond; the 
response
was "greyed-out".
 
The repository though is created and is 
running
on AIX, Oracle 8.1.7.2.
 
I was also able to connect to the repository from 
my client
using sqlplus.
 
Any help is appreciated. thanks.
 
        
    ed 
 
 


Load Testing Help Needed

2002-03-22 Thread Ed

Can anyone recommend and low cost tool(s) for load testing a database 
server?  I looked at Quest's Benchmark Factory, but it doesn't provide 
the flexibility I need in this situation I'm facing The $15K I was 
quoted for the Quest tool is a bit pricey, so I don't believe more 
expensive tools (e.g., Load Runner) are viable candidates.

Here's what I have to work with:

I will have a log file from our mid tier server that will contain all 
the SQL generated by the application.  However, since the system is not 
in production, I will be limited to using a single user or small group 
to simulate use of the application.  Therefore, I will have to find a 
way to scale the limited capture to production-like levels and 
substitute values for transactions and queries.

Can anyone recommend a tool(s) that would allow me to 1) automate 
substitution of values in WHERE clauses and INSERT/UPDATE statements and 
2) perform load testing using ascii files as the input?

TIA for your help,

Ed


 


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Bug, tuning issue or bad sql?

2002-02-27 Thread Ed

Oracle 8.1.6.0   NT 4.0

I'm having a problem with a query which is basically just a bunch of UNION
ALL's that I want sorted in a certain way. The query runs flawlessly when I
limit the result set with a where clause, but when I remove it, the query
crashes when sorting (in the order by at the far bottom).  If I remove the
ORDER BY, the query runs beautifully.  The max rows returned by this is
about 12,000.  I am confident that the values returned are consistant across
each of the UNION's.

Here's the error returned:

 trans_demographic td
 *
ERROR at line 257:
ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [5213], [], [], [], [], [], [],
[]


In other words:

1. Query runs with no ORDER BY.
2. Query runs with ORDER BY, when limiting rows returned.
3. When limiting rows returned, I can use any value in the full range (in
this case poe_assoc_id), and everything works as long as the total rows
returned are less than around 3,000.

I have tested every range of data, and I can use any set of valid values as
long as I do it in pieces.

So my question is: is the sql bad somehow (I don't think so).  Is this a
tuning issue on the database itself?  Is this a bug in 8.1.6.0?

Thanks in advance!

Ed

P.S. Here's the big ole query:

select ae_email_addr, ae_assoc_id, poe_assoc_id, table_type, poe, adds,
changes, drops, ae_name from
(select  a.assoc_id poe_assoc_id,
a.poe poe,
'Member' table_type,
SUM(DECODE(tm.record_change_type,'A',1,0)) adds,
SUM(DECODE(tm.record_change_type,'C',1,0)) +
SUM(DECODE(tm.record_change_type,'T',1,0)) changes,
SUM(DECODE(tm.record_change_type,'D',1,0)) drops,
a.ae_email_addr ae_email_addr,
a.ae_name ae_name,
a.ae_assoc_id ae_assoc_id
from(select a.assoc_id,
poe_am.mem_id poe,
ae_m.first_name||' '||ae_m.last_name ae_name,
ae_am.assoc_id ae_assoc_id,
NVL(ae_m.email_addr,'[EMAIL PROTECTED]') ae_email_addr
 from   ASSOCIATION a,
ASSOCIATION_MEMBER poe_am,
MEMBER poe_m,
ASSOCIATION_MEMBER ae_am,
MEMBER ae_m
 where  a.assoc_type = 'L'
 anda.assoc_status_cd = 'A'
 anda.assoc_id = poe_am.assoc_id
 andpoe_am.relation_type = 'POE'
 andpoe_am.mem_id = poe_m.mem_id
 andpoe_m.primary_assoc_id = ae_am.assoc_id
 andae_am.relation_type = 'EO_ID'
 andae_am.mem_id = ae_m.mem_id) a,
 TRANS_MEMBER tm
wherea.assoc_id = tm.primary_assoc_id(+)
and  a.poe = tm.sender_id(+)
and  tm.last_changed_dt(+) BETWEEN '01-JUN-2001' AND '30-JUN-2001'
 GROUP BY a.assoc_id,
  a.poe,
  a.ae_email_addr,
  a.ae_name,
  a.ae_assoc_id
UNION ALL
SELECT  a.assoc_id poe_assoc_id,
a.poe poe,
'Member Supplemental' table_type,
SUM(DECODE(tms.record_change_type,'A',1,0)) adds,
SUM(DECODE(tms.record_change_type,'C',1,0)) changes,
SUM(DECODE(tms.record_change_type,'D',1,0)) drops,
a.ae_email_addr ae_email_addr,
a.ae_name ae_name,
a.ae_assoc_id ae_assoc_id
FROM(select a.assoc_id,
poe_am.mem_id poe,
ae_m.first_name||' '||ae_m.last_name ae_name,
ae_am.assoc_id ae_assoc_id,
NVL(ae_m.email_addr,'[EMAIL PROTECTED]') ae_email_addr
 from   ASSOCIATION a,
ASSOCIATION_MEMBER poe_am,
MEMBER poe_m,
ASSOCIATION_MEMBER ae_am,
MEMBER ae_m
 where  a.assoc_type = 'L'
 anda.assoc_status_cd = 'A'
 anda.assoc_id = poe_am.assoc_id
 andpoe_am.relation_type = 'POE'
 andpoe_am.mem_id = poe_m.mem_id
 andpoe_m.primary_assoc_id = ae_am.assoc_id
 andae_am.relation_type = 'EO_ID'
 andae_am.mem_id = ae_m.mem_id) a,
 trans_member_supplemental tms
WHEREa.assoc_id = tms.assoc_id(+)
AND  a.poe = tms.sender_id(+)
and  tms.last_changed_dt(+) BETWEEN '01-JUN-2001' AND '30-JUN-2001'
 GROUP BY a.assoc_id,
  a.poe,
  a.ae_email_addr,
  a.ae_name,
  a.ae_assoc_id
UNION ALL
SELECT  a.assoc_id poe_assoc_id,
a.poe poe,
'Office' table_type,
SUM(DECODE(tof.record_change_type,'A',1,0)) adds,
SUM(DECODE(tof.record_change_type,'C',1,0)) +
SUM(DECODE(tof.record_change_type,'T',1,0)) changes,
SUM(DECODE(tof.record_change_type,'D',1,0))

DLL question

2002-02-07 Thread Ed

Okay, I can't find where this is documented.  What .dll corresponds to ora805.dll in 
8.1.6?  Better yet, where is that documented?

Best,

Ed

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Re: RMAN-20202 error while recovery

2002-01-21 Thread Ed

Have you tried removing the "" from around the tablespace name?

Sona wrote:

> Hi
> i am trying to recover the database from the loss of  SYSTEM datafile.
> After mounting the database ,I tried recovery using RMAN
> RMAN> run
> 2> {
>3> allocate channel c1 type disk ;
> 4> restore tablespace "system";
> 5> recover tablespace "system";
> 6> sql 'alter database open';
> 7> release channel c1;
> 8> }
>
> I have a Incremental level 0 backup and also a incremental level 1 database
> backup.
> i got the following error while recpovering
> RMAN-03022: compiling command: allocate
> RMAN-03023: executing command: allocate
> RMAN-08030: allocated channel: c1
>RMAN-08500: channel c1: sid=11 devtype=DISK
>
> RMAN-03022: compiling command: restore
> RMAN-03025: performing implicit partial resync of recovery catalog
>
>>RMAN-03023: executing command: partial resync
>>RMAN-08003: starting partial resync of recovery catalog
>>RMAN-08005: partial resync complete
>>
>>RMAN-03022: compiling command: IRESTORE
>>RMAN-03026: error recovery releasing channel resources
>>RMAN-08031: released channel: c1
>>RMAN-00571: ===
>>RMAN-00569: === ERROR MESSAGE STACK FOLLOWS ===
>>RMAN-00571: ===
>>RMAN-03002: failure during compilation of command
>>RMAN-03013: command type: restore
>>RMAN-03002: failure during compilation of command
>>RMAN-03013: command type: IRESTORE
>>RMAN-06004: ORACLE error from recovery catalog database: RMAN-20202:
>>tablespace not found in the recovery catalog
>>RMAN-06019: could not translate tablespace name "system"
>>
>Any ideas why this error occurs
>The intersting thing is that if i use "recover datafile" ,the recovery goes
> thru.
>
>TIA
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Re: Recovery scenario query

2002-01-11 Thread Ed

We use Rman with Legato Netwoker.   Once we got Legato Networker set up 
correctly, it was pretty straight forward from the Rman side of the 
fence.  We use networker to schedule the jobs.  That adds some 
complexity to the setup, but it's pretty well documented.  I added  some 
script trickery that I found on metalink to avoid having the username 
and password for the rman user from being written to the log files.  You 
can also run your jobs manually or from cron if you desire.

Now, we had a good deal of difficulty getting Legato Networker to play 
nice with our Veritas cluster, but that is a story for the Unix admin to 
tell.  The RMAN interface is pretty straight forward if you take the 
time to read the NetWorker Module for Oracle Administration Guide .

Gene Sais wrote:

>Speaking of Rman, has anyone used it directly interfaced w/ Legato networker?  I have 
>to park my trusty scripts and learn Rman w/ Legato.  Any gotchas I should be aware 
>of.  I know to keep a sep schema for each Oracle version, anything else?  Reason for 
>this is that I have a 1tb db of blobs and I need to do incremental backups and I 
>understand Rman is the tool.  Thanks for any insight on these products.
>
>Gene
>
>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/11/02 03:20PM >>>
>>>>
>Instead of writing a fancy backup script, why not learn and use Rman?  It
>does everything that is needed - backup, removal of archivelog files, easily
>restore to any point in time.
>
>a real no-brainer.
>
>Tom Mercadante
>Oracle Certified Professional
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Veritas Quick IO & Oracle Performance

2002-01-09 Thread Ed Bittel

I was asked to evaluate the potential benefit of using
Veritas Quick I/O
for one of our databases.  I put together some simple
tests to gauge the
expected impact of Veritas Quick I/O on Oracle
performance. The tests
were designed so that the only variable when running
the test scripts
was type of datafile the scripts were reading from or
writing to (i.e.,
Quick I/O or non-Quick I/O).

The results of the tests were very surprising. Only
the performance of
large DDL operations, such as copying tables and
creating indexes, was
significantly improved after implementing Veritas
Quick I/O for an
Oracle datafile.  Performance of DML operations ranged
from marginally
improved to markedly worse after implementing Veritas
Quick I/O for an
Oracle datafile.  Large selects were particularly poor
performing with
Quick IO.

Are these results typical?  Are there any issue I
should be aware of?

We're running Oracle 8.1.6.3 on Solaris with Veritas
Database Edition
for Oracle 2.1.1.

TIA,

Ed




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Resend: Re: unused blocks BELOW HWM - Thanks

2001-12-19 Thread Ed

This is a GREAT idea.

 Ed

 > On Wednesday 19 December 2001 00:15, Hallas John wrote:
> > I agree with your reasoning Dennis. I have long felt that one of the
> > problems with the list is that the original raiser of the question
should
> > have some sort of responsibility for summarising the various responses
and
> > posting a short summarised reply showing the solutions(s) that worked
for
> > him/her
> > This type of question where various solutions were proposed is the ideal
> > candidate for this type of summarised response. I used to be on a Unix
list
> > and that strategy was used quite well there.
> >
> > John



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Re: Revert from 8.1.6 to 8.0.5

2001-12-19 Thread Ed

Thanks all.  Everything worked perfectly for us (we weren't using any
8i features yet).  I didn't realize the migration guide had a downgrade
section, but we didn't need it anyways!

Best,

Ed

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>
> Check out the Chapter on downgrading in the 8i Migration manual
> The 8.1.6 manual pages are still online at
>
http://otn.oracle.com/doc/oracle8i_816/server.816/a76957/migdowng.htm#15124
>
> You need to remove whatever 8i features you may have implemented that are
> not available in 8.0.5
> Depending on what changes you may have made, you may or may not be able to
> downgrade.  Try
> the downgrade on reviewing the doc. It would be faster than rebuilding the
> database (unless the upgrade
> from 8.0.5 to 8.1.6 was itself a rebuild !!).
>
>
> Hemant K Chitale
> Principal DBA
> Chartered Semiconductor Manufacturing Ltd


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Revert from 8.1.6 to 8.0.5

2001-12-18 Thread Ed

Looks like we have to revert an 8.1.6 database that was upgraded over the
weekend back to 8.0.5, but we need to export/import so we don't lose data
from the last 2 days.  Anything I need to know?  The plan is to export using
the 8.0.5 export utility before importing back into 8.0.5.  Does this make
sense?

Thanks,

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Re: OCP

2001-12-07 Thread Ed

Just finished this a few months ago. My advice is to use the Oracle Exam
Guide, Sybex Exam Guides, and Exam Cram as a third choice, but get the other
two first.  The ExamCram has much more detail, but does not explain concepts
well.  The STS (selftestsoftware.com) practice tests are really very good.
I only used one, but it was done very well.  I passed all tests on the first
try with an average of about 90%.  The actual tests are MUCH harder than the
practice tests in the study guides (any of them).

Also note, you not only need to study, but also TRY things.  I installed
Oracle on Linux at home and tinkered to my heart's content.  Make sure you
understand the DBA and V$ views or you won't pass.

Best of luck,

Ed

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> Hi
>
> I have been a DBA for a few years now, I am consdering doing the OCP exams
>
> I have bought the Oracle 8i DBA certification Exam Guide.
>
> However I have been informed by a fellow DBA that he bought the same book,
> studied it and took the practice tests and was getting around 90% in
> these tests.. however when he came to doing the actual he just failed !
>
> Does anyone have any thoughts on this ?
>
> Also is it possible to get mock exams that are more reflective of the
> actual exams , from anywhere
>
> Regards
>
> Saj
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Re: Has anyone heard of "Mirror Accessible"?

2001-12-03 Thread Ed

The Logical Standby Database is listed in Oracle 9i's "New Features"
documentation on Technet, but there is nothing about it in the actual Data
Guard manual that I have found. Maybe it is a 9.0.2 feature as someone else
already indicated.

Best,

Ed

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> AFAIK, 9iDataGuard in the current release is only a Physical Standby
> database
> (not "logical standby database").  This is similar to 8i except for the
> fact that, if you
> ensure that you do a clean failover-and-failback (ie have the controlfiles
> and
> online redo log files available) you can actually switch to and from the
> standby.
>
> Never tried it and wouldn't try it till 9.0.2 (at the minimum)
>
> Hemant
>
>
>
> "Miller, Jay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>01/12/2001 05:45 AM
> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Please respond to ORACLE-L
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Can anyone confirm this?  I've been searching technet and metalink and
> can't
> turn up any details.
>
> -Original Message-
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>
> Isn't that just in release 2 though?  My understanding is that its not out
> yet.
>
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>
> Ah, this sounds likely.  And it might explain why they were keen on having
> us upgrade to 9i.  That's the problem with receiving the request filtered
> through two additional levels of people.
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> -Original Message-
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>
> 9i has a new feature on standby databases that let's you run reports in
> read
> only while continuing the managed recovery.  I think they call it a
logical
> standby database.  See the 9i DataGuard manual for more information.  (I
> just happened to be looking into this lately).  This might be what they
are
> talking about.
>
> Best,
>
> Ed
>
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> > Only thing I can think of off the top of my head is a standby database
> > opened in read only mode.  Its one of the purposes totted for that
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> > -Original Message-
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> > My CIO woes continue. My manager has been told by the CIO that Oracle
has
> a
> > product called "mirror accessible" which allows the database to be
> mirrored
> > for reporting purposes. He wants us to use this product.
> >
> > Now I'm familiar with the EMC solution, Quest's Shareplex, Oracle
Standby
> > and Oracle Replication but he says it isn't any of these. Any idea what
> he
> > might be talking about?
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Re: Has anyone heard of "Mirror Accessible"?

2001-11-30 Thread Ed

9i has a new feature on standby databases that let's you run reports in read
only while continuing the managed recovery.  I think they call it a logical
standby database.  See the 9i DataGuard manual for more information.  (I
just happened to be looking into this lately).  This might be what they are
talking about.

Best,

Ed

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> Only thing I can think of off the top of my head is a standby database
> opened in read only mode.  Its one of the purposes totted for that
>
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 9:47 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> My CIO woes continue. My manager has been told by the CIO that Oracle has
a
> product called "mirror accessible" which allows the database to be
mirrored
> for reporting purposes. He wants us to use this product.
>
> Now I'm familiar with the EMC solution, Quest's Shareplex, Oracle Standby
> and Oracle Replication but he says it isn't any of these. Any idea what he
> might be talking about?
>
> Jay Miller
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Re: Standby Database

2001-11-29 Thread Ed

Ditto this.  Pretty much exactly what I suspected, but I was certain someone
here had dealt with this already and might have better insight.

Thanks,

Ed

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> Excellent post Don!
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Standby Database

2001-11-28 Thread Ed

Quick question.  Is it a fair statement to say that using Oracle's hot
standby database allows you recoverability up to the last archive log, but
would NOT recover to the latest redo log (prior to a log switch).  In other
words, the potential to lose transactions is very high if you depend on this
for failover (not good for e-commerce type databases).  Would it be possible
to somehow mirror redo logs across to the failover server and apply them
when activating the standby database, or is the only real solution
clustering or something like DoubleTake?

Am I making sense?

Thanks,

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Re: For You Telnet Experts

2001-11-28 Thread Ed

Assuming this is Unix of some kind:

Are the binaries (svrmgrl/sqlplus) in your path ($ORACLE_HOME/bin) and
environmental variables set (ie. $ORACLE_HOME)?

Is the telnetd daemon running to receive telnet requests (ps -ef | grep
"telnetd")?

Problems connecting with telnet and using svrmgrl or sqlplus from the
console are unrelated (separate issues).

Best,

Ed

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> I cannot get svrmgrl to run at the Command Prompt or sql*plus prompt.  I
> keep getting an error - unrecognized command.  When I try to get Telnet to
> connect to the server it won't.  Could this be the problem of why svrmgrl
> won't work?  I need svrmgrl to run my "cat" scripts.
>
> Thanks,
> Ken Janusz, CPIM
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RE: Upgrade 8.0.5 to 8.1.6

2001-11-22 Thread Ed

Sheesh, glad you pointed this out.

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Ed:
If you choose to upgrade your database from 8.0.5 to 8.1.6, there's a
potential difficulty you need to know about.

If you're not aware of the dictionary corruption problem, be sure you read
the metalink alert (96117.1).  This has something to do with block checking
enabled in 8.1.6   Essentially, you need to analyze all your system tables
to insure no corruption has been introduced.

If you have any problem finding the info on metalink, take a look at the Tim
Gorman's web site (www.evdbt.com).  He has some info about it under
"downloads".

Barb


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RE: Upgrade 8.0.5 to 8.1.6

2001-11-21 Thread Ed

Thanks all.

Ed


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RE: Upgrade 8.0.5 to 8.1.6

2001-11-21 Thread Ed

Yes, I agree 100%, but people here are concerned that upgrading will "break"
the database, and we have to QUICKLY move everything over to 8.1.6. (Long
story).  What I was really after in my original question was: why is the
upgrade script a better solution than just recreating the tablespaces in
8.1.6 and importing from an export of the old database?  Does it just save
time?  Is there a downside to using export/import this way?

Best!

Ed

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Ed,

the whole point of compatable is to mimick behaviour
of an older release .. like optimizer plans etc.
upgrading the db would be the way to go for this..
like many have already pointed out

Deepak

--- Ed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A DBA here is trying to upgrade several 8.0.5
> databases to 8.1.6
> by using export/import.  This will probably work,
> but wouldn't it be
> easier to just do a cold backup and open them using
> the
> COMPATIBLE parameter in the 8.1.6 environment?  Is
> there
> any downside to using export/import? (ie. will it
> affect snapshots,
> db links, etc...).
>
> I thought the whole point of the compatible
> parameter was that
> it let you open up an older database with no
> questions asked.
> Then you could run any of the upgrade .sql scripts
> at your leisure,
> yes?
>
> Best,
>
> Ed
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RE: Upgrade 8.0.5 to 8.1.6

2001-11-21 Thread Ed

That's exactly what I was saying I think.  ie. To quickly move 8.0.5 to
8.1.6, set compatible and everything should run without doing anything else
(including the u*.sql script).  You can run migration later if you need
new features of 8.1.6.

Reasonable statement?

Best,

Ed

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Ed,
COMPATIBLE is there to allow backwards compatibility. If you upgrade from
8.0.5 to 8.1.6 and set COMPATIBLE=8.0.5 in your init.ora, new features will
not be turned on, allowing an easier port back to 8.0.5 if necessary.
Quoting from Oracle8i Reference Release:
"COMPATIBLE lets you use a new release, while at teh same time guaranteeing
backward compatibility with an earlier release... This parameter specifies
the release with which the Oracle server must maintain compatiibility. It
allows you to take advantage of the maintenance imporvements of a new
release immediately in you production systems without testing the new
functionality in your environment."

Henry

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When I read through Oracle's migration info it looks to me like
all init ora params from 8.0.5 are supported, though obsolete, in
8.1.6.  What is the point of the "compatible" parameter then if you have
to run the conversion script on the database?  Thanks for answering.

Best,

Ed

On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130) wrote:

> Ed,
>
>   There's more to it than just setting the
> COMPATIBLE parameter.  The basic steps
> are
>
> 1) install new 8.1.6 executables
> 2) copy init.ora file from old 8.0.5 home to 8.1.6 home,
>   making whatever modifications are necessary due to
>   new or obsoleted parameters
> 3) startup database
> 4) run  u0800050.sql as sys.  This modifies internal Oracle objects
> to new forms needed by 8.1.6 software.  Once this is done, NEVER
> open the database using the old version, as it can corrupt the database.
>
> 
> Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> - Larry Wall (creator of Perl)
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> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 6:00 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: Upgrade 8.0.5 to 8.1.6
> >
> >
> > A DBA here is trying to upgrade several 8.0.5 databases to 8.1.6
> > by using export/import.  This will probably work, but wouldn't it be
> > easier to just do a cold backup and open them using the
> > COMPATIBLE parameter in the 8.1.6 environment?  Is there
> > any downside to using export/import? (ie. will it affect snapshots,
> > db links, etc...).
> >
> > I thought the whole point of the compatible parameter was that
> > it let you open up an older database with no questions asked.
> > Then you could run any of the upgrade .sql scripts at your leisure,
> > yes?
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Ed
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Upgrade 8.0.5 to 8.1.6

2001-11-20 Thread Ed

A DBA here is trying to upgrade several 8.0.5 databases to 8.1.6
by using export/import.  This will probably work, but wouldn't it be
easier to just do a cold backup and open them using the
COMPATIBLE parameter in the 8.1.6 environment?  Is there
any downside to using export/import? (ie. will it affect snapshots,
db links, etc...).  

I thought the whole point of the compatible parameter was that
it let you open up an older database with no questions asked.
Then you could run any of the upgrade .sql scripts at your leisure,
yes?

Best,

Ed


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Logminer Question

2001-11-19 Thread Ed Bittel

I'm analyzing archive logs from an 8.1.6.3 database
running on Solaris.  There are many entries in
v$logmnr_contents with a NULL username and DATA_OBJ#
and DATA_OBJD# values that don't match anything I can
find in sys.obj$.  What would account for these
entries in v$logmnr_contents?  

Example
===
SELECT username, OPERATION, count(*)
FROM v$logmnr_contents group by username, operation
/

 USERNAME   OPERATION  COUNT(*)
 --  --
 WANT_NUTS  COMMIT  301
 WANT_NUTS  DELETE4
 WANT_NUTS  INSERT4
 WANT_NUTS  INTERNAL884
 WANT_NUTS  START   301
 WANT_NUTS  UPDATE  296
 ZEDWARDS   COMMIT3
 ZEDWARDS   INSERT  446
 ZEDWARDS   INTERNAL 15
 ZEDWARDS   START 4
 OKSERVER1  COMMIT   20
 OKSERVER1  DELETE   30
 OKSERVER1  INSERT  296
 OKSERVER1  INTERNAL269
 OKSERVER1  START20
 OKSERVER1  UPDATE  163
 SYSCOMMIT 4034
 SYSDELETE  291
 SYSINSERT   71
 SYSINTERNAL   6997
 SYSSTART  4036
 SYSUPDATE 4346
COMMIT7
DELETE 1235
INSERT 2242
INTERNAL843
START 2
UNSUPPORTED 266
UPDATE59002
 
 37 rows selected.

FYI, data from this database is being replicated via
snapshot to a reporting database.  Could that be
responsible for the NULL username entries?




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Re: Mass Storage/Network Stuff

2001-11-15 Thread Ed

Tim,

Definitely.  We're just researching options right now.  I was
certain we'd end up with something working over a fiber card
or 1000 Megabit NIC of some kind.

Thanks,

Ed

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> Ed...
>
>   Make sure you read the last couple lines of Dick's email carefully...
He
> is absolutely correct...  There is a big difference between being
certified
> by Oracle and being certified by Oracle USING THE SUPPORTED
CONFIGURATION...

[SNIP]
>
> Tim
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Re: Mass Storage/Network Stuff

2001-11-15 Thread Ed

To those who answered: thanks!  This mailing list is a wonderful resource.

Ed


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Mass Storage/Network Stuff

2001-11-14 Thread Ed

Are there any problems running Oracle on one box, and pointing the database
files to a mass storage network device (ie. a disk array or some external
storage solution).  In other words, will Oracle run using network
addressable storage?  I'm assuming this is not a difficult thing to do, but
I would love to hear some war stories.

Any configuration or specific recommendations on how to do this?  Unix/NT an
issue?

Best,

Ed


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Re: Database Copy Problem

2001-11-13 Thread Ed

Thanks to those that responded.  This is working now.  Someone else
here made a mistake and reverted the DB to an old init.ora that was causing
this problem.  I put in the correct init.ora and everything is working just
fine.

Best,

Ed


> Used the backup controlfile to trace method to create a copy
> of a database on the same server.  Copied prod to test.  Test
> already existed, but was overwritten by new copy.
>
> We are now getting an ORA-01102, cannot mount in EXCLUSIVE
> mode when trying to open the test database.  This is on NT 4.0,
> Oracle 8.16.
>
> Ideas?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Ed


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Database Copy Problem

2001-11-12 Thread Ed

Used the backup controlfile to trace method to create a copy
of a database on the same server.  Copied prod to test.  Test
already existed, but was overwritten by new copy.

We are now getting an ORA-01102, cannot mount in EXCLUSIVE
mode when trying to open the test database.  This is on NT 4.0,
Oracle 8.16.

Ideas?

Thanks.

Ed


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backup of large databases

2001-10-26 Thread Ed Lewis



Hello,
    I'm curious how people handle 
the backups for
    large/very large databases; 
200gb or greater.
  
    My questions are not targeted 
towards any
    specific hardware platform, but 
we are using
    Oracle 8.1.7. I'm assuming that 
archiving is enabled.
 
Are backups done 
nightly, or because of
    time constraints are they done 
weekly ?
If weekly, do you feel 
comfortable having to possibly
    apply a week of archives, in the case of a recovery ?
  
    Do you use disk or tape 
?
  
Do you use RMAN or other 
backup tools ?
 
What are 
the customer's expections for recovery and
how do they effect your 
backup strategy ? 
 
    I appreciate your 
input.
 
        
ed 
 


Where 1 = 1

2001-10-25 Thread Ed Bittel

I was monitoring a load test of my company's new
application when I came across something interesting. 
One of the more monstrous queries had the following as
part of its WHERE clause: 'AND 1 = 1'

Has anyone seen this used before?  What is it supposed
to achieve?  

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v$tempstat question

2001-10-24 Thread Ed Bittel

I've been trying to track down the source of high
'direct path read' and 'direct path write' waits.  It
appears the waits are related to locally managed
temporary tablespaces.  However, I'm puzzled  by what
is reported in v$tempstat.  

SQL> select  FILE#, READTIM, WRITETIM, AVGIOTIM, 
 LSTIOTIM, MINIOTIM, MAXIORTM, MAXIOWTM 
 from v$tempstat;

FILE# READTIM WRITETIM AVGIOTIM LSTIOTIM   MINIOTIM  
MAXIORTM   MAXIOWTM
- ---    --
-- --
1   3001  0   
   6393 78
2   2  252  443  636  0   
   1387188

How could the values for MAXIORTM (maximum time spent
doing a single read) be substatially greater than
those reported for READTIM (time spent doing all
reads)?  

This situtation persists even after all of the users
have logged out of the database, so it doesn't appear
to be a case of the read having not yet completed.  

FYI: We're running Oracle 8.1.6.3 on Sun Solaris.

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wait events & v$filestat.readtim

2001-10-24 Thread Ed Bittel

Are the 'db file scattered read' and 'db file
sequential read' waits directly related to the readtim
values in v$filestat?  

For every 1/100th sec of v$filestat.readtim, should I
see corresponding wait time reported for the 'db file
scattered read' or 'db file sequential read'?  

If this is the case, where would I find the
corresponding I/O value(s) for the 'direct path read'
wait event?

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Re: SP Non-Parse CPU Calculation IS Incorrect

2001-10-19 Thread Ed Bittel

I don't know if anyone else uses Statspack, but I
couldn't help but notice the incorrect '% Non Parse
CPU' result in the instance efficiency section of the
report.  

Non-Parse CPU % calculation taken from STATSPACK
8.1.7: STATSREP.SQL: 
round(100*1-(:prscpu/:tcpu),2). 

It should be: 
round(100*(1-(:prscpu/:tcpu),2)).

Here's an example using actual statspack values for
'CPU used by this session' and 'parse time cpu'.

select round(100*1-(23255/234162),2) pctval
from dual;

PCTVAL 
-- 
  99.9 

select round(100*(1-(23255/234162)),2) pctval
from dual;  


PCTVAL 
-- 
 90.07 

So instead of .10% of CPU being used to parse as
reported by Statspack, the database is actually using
10% of CPU to parse.  Using the statspack calculation,
my database could be using 50% of CPU to parse and the
report would still report a high non-parse CPU %.

I guess it pays to remember "My Dear Aunt Sally".


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RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance

2001-09-26 Thread Ed . Haskins
Title: RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance



Jack,
 
Any 
issues with Terminal Services...since Oracle doesn't support Terminal Service's 
use?
 
Thanks,
Ed
 

  -Original Message-From: Jack C. Applewhite 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 
  2001 2:05 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Physical access to servers for 
  maintenance
  Me 
  too.  We've got our 4 Production Win2k servers (2 Oracle8i servers, 2 
  Webservers) at a colocation facility and have used either PCAnywhere or 
  Terminal Services to access them over the Internet for the last 9 
  months.
   
  The 
  developers have never needed to have access to the servers except to put in 
  the Cold Fusion CD to install CF Server.  I've only needed access once, 
  to load some big files that I later imported into a test db on one of the 
  servers (actually, that's when I put in the CF CD, to save the developers a 
  trip).  Even then, I really didn't need to be there, I could have 
  transferred my files via PCAnywhere.
   
  If I 
  were the SysAdmin I would have needed access a couple of times to replace 
  failed drives, but the colocation guys took care of that.  I recovered 
  our Production db remotely after they replaced the drives.
   
  It's 
  very nice to be able to PCAnywhere in to those boxes from 
  home.
   
  Jack
  Jack C. 
  ApplewhiteDatabase Administrator/DeveloperOCP Oracle8 
  DBAiNetProfit, Inc.Austin, 
  Texaswww.iNetProfit.com[EMAIL PROTECTED](512)327-9068
  
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kimberly SmithSent: 
Wednesday, September 26, 2001 11:15 AMTo: Multiple recipients of 
list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Physical access to servers for 
maintenance
You can use a tool such as ControlIT to connect to 
NT machines.  Its how I do it, both from the 
office,
and from home.  How do all these people who 
claim you need access to the server room to do the 
day to day stuff provide remote 
support?  I will be damned if I come in during the middle of the night 
for 
a 
database issue.  



RE: Oracle Pure Name and Address

2001-09-17 Thread Haskins, Ed
Title: Oracle Pure Name and Address



I 
think it could be part of the Oracle Business Intelligence Suite (ETL: Extract, 
Transform, and Load).  I know Oracle has a feature within such that allows 
for cleaning up names and addresses!!
 
Ed 
Haskins

  -Original Message-From: Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130) 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 
  2:30 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Oracle Pure Name and Address
  Recently got a 8.1.7 shipment (for hp-ux) and found some CDs I've never seen in an Oracle shipment before 
  Oracle Pure Name & Address (5.5.0.33) Oracle Pure Name & Address (North America) (5.5.0.33) 
  Oracle Pure Name & Address (Europe, Middle East & 
  Africa , Asia Pacific, and Latin America) 
  (5.5.0.33) Oracle Geocode (US Data) (5.5.0.33) 
  
  Anybody familiar with this stuff?  
  (I could just drop it in the CD-ROM but I don't have time 
  at the moment.) 
  Matt Adams GE Appliances 



RE: What happens if you lose the alert log?

2001-09-13 Thread Haskins, Ed

!! Please do not post Off Topic to this List !!

Oracle will automatically recreate the ALERT log file and begin writing to
it.

Ed



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!! Please do not post Off Topic to this List !!

Hi,

I had a situation yesterday where a rogue process wrote millions of
error messages into the alert log. I was able to get rid of the process,
then delete the error messages out. But it would have been quicker to just
blow it away and create a new, empty one. I was concerned as to the effect
that would have on Oracle. Would it bring Oracle down? What is the best way
to handle this?


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OT: Nostradamus: RE: RE: STOP THE PRESS!!

2001-09-12 Thread Ed . Haskins

The following quatrain has been circulating the Internet after the WTC
bombings.

In the City of God there will be a great thunder, 
two brothers torn  apart by chaos, 
while the fortress endures, the great leader will sucumb. 
The third big war will begin when the big city is burning.

It is NOT by Nostradamus.

The original source may be
http://www.ed.brocku.ca/~nmarshal/nostradamus.htm.   Here is a short excerpt
from that page.

How does this apply to Nostradamus? Well I will show you...

If I make say a thousand prophecies that are fairly abstract for example:

In the City of God there will be a great thunder, Two brothers torn apart by
Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb

Well let us analyse this. For Example what does City of God mean? It could
be Mecca, Medina, Rome, Jeruselum, Salt Lake City, or any holy city
depending on your religion. What do I mean by thunder--a storm? War?
EarthQuake? lots of stuff can be described by thunder. There are a lot of
two brothers on this world (I think the Number runs among the Billions) and
fortress edure's what--Besiegement, Famine, etc? What Great Leader? How will
he succumb? To what? 


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I just got this from a friend.

"In the City of God there will be a great thunder, two brothers torn 
apart by chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will 
succumb.  The third big war will begin when the big city is burning. 
On the 11th day of the 19th month that two metal birds would crash 
into two tall statues in the new city and the world will end soon 
after."

Michel de Nostredame Nostradamus
Century 9, Quatrain 16:54

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


YEAH, CRUSH THE A**HOLE'S and ANYONE or GOVERNMENT who supports this act! 

* THIS IS AN ACT OF WAR, comparable if not worst than Pearl Harbor *

Gene

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/11/01 12:15PM >>>
My heart goes out to our friends in America...this is sad, sad newslet's
hope your president makes the right decisions in handling this affair...

K.

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The BBC seems to have more info than the U.S. web sites.

Tuesday, 11 September, 2001, 13:35 GMT 14:35
  UK 
  Planes 'attack' World Trade Center

  A huge explosion rocks one of towers
  Two planes have crashed into the World Trade Center
  in New York City while an explosion has rocked the
  Pentagon in Washington DC. 

  The White House is reportedly being evacuated. 

  One report says six people have been killed in the
  New York incident while hundreds have been injured. 

  Smoke is pouring from the upper storeys of both
  towers of the World Trade Center. 

  The building, one of the world's tallest, has been badly
  damaged in what President George W Bush has
  described as "an apparent terrorist attack". 

  He said: "We will find those who committed this
  attack." 

  New York police have been
  quoted as saying that both
  planes were hijacked from
  Boston. 

  A few minutes after the
  first tower was hit by a
  passenger plane, a
  second, similar plane was
  seen flying into the second
  tower. A huge explosion
  was seen. 

  Eyewitnesses say the first
  plane crashed into the West Tower after flying
  unusually low over Manhattan Island. 

  A BBC correspondent says 10 to 15 floors have been
  affected by the crash. 

  Briton James Winter, 30, living in an apartment close
  to the centre, said he was woken a huge bang at
  around 0800 local time. 

  "I was in bed and there was a huge explosion. The
  whole building rattled and shook," he said. 

  "I ran to the window and there was smoke billowing
  from the south side of one of the towers. Everyone in
  my building was panicking and running around." 

  The World Trade Center consists of two 110-story
  skyscrapers, New York's tallest buildings. One of the
  towers is just six feet (two metres) taller than the
  other. 

  About 40,000 people work inside the two-building
  centre, and more than 150,000 people enter the
  complex every day. 

  On 26 February, 1993, a terrorist bomb exploded in
  building number one's lower level.


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RE: An OPS & tnsnames question

2001-08-29 Thread Ed . Haskins

Look at Transparent Application Failover as a Net8 option.  You'll need to
determine Oracle Client compatibility / requirements with such!

Ed Haskins
Oracle DBA
Verizon Wireless


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Dear list !
I've got an OPS database named OPS with 2 instances OPS1 and OPS2 .
I want the users to connect to OPS1 and ONLY if it is down , to connect to
OPS2.
It's Oracle 8.0.5.1 on NT4.

I put the following lines in clients' tnsnames.ora file :

OPS.world = (DESCRIPTION_LIST =
(DESCRIPTION = 
  (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = tcp) (HOST = DB1) (PORT = 1526))
  (CONNECT_DATA = (SID = OPS1))
)
(DESCRIPTION = 
  (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = tcp) (HOST = DB2) (PORT = 1526))
  (CONNECT_DATA = (SID = OPS2))
)
)

This works perfectly fine except for the case when OPS1 instance is down ,
but the listener is up.
Then clients try to connect to OPS1 and fail - "Oracle not available" .
When i bring the listener on OPS1 host down - everybody perfectly connect to
OPS2.

Is there a solution ?
Thanks a lot in advance !


DBAndrey

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RE: financial problems with fatcity.com

2001-08-29 Thread Haskins, Ed

How about Corporate Sponsorship?




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I think that much better than voluntary contributions will be some
s*u*b*s*c*r*i*p*t*i*o*n fees - like $1 per month or better $12 per year. I
am sure that
everybody working with Oracle and living in US or UK or other developed
country can afford such fees. We will not need to charge people from
developing countries - I am sure these subscription fees will generate more
than $500 per month.

Alex Hillman

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aix tools

2001-08-24 Thread Ed Lewis



Hi,
   Can anyone tell me where I 
can
download a copy of "top" to run on
aix 4.3.3 ?
   thanks for your help.
 
        
    ed lewis
   


RE: TNSPING Test Script for NT

2001-08-22 Thread Haskins, Ed

Tom,

Thanks!!

Ed

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Ed,

how about:


tnsping {sid} 1000 > ping.lis

will tnsping the {sid} 1000 times, with the result being placed in a file
created named ping.lis

changing it to

***  file name pingtest.bat
tnsping %1 1000 > ping.lis

Can be executed as   pingtest {sid}


Another way to do this using a loop within the .bat file follows.
This would execute the tnsping command 1000 times:

***  file name pingtest1.bat
echo TnsPing Test > ping.lis
echo date /T  >> ping.lis
for /L %I in (1,1,1000) do tnsping r816 >> ping.lis


And a third way, using goto looping:

***  file name pingtest2.bat
@rem
@rem  Loop through a counter searching for the RunDaily.{seq} file
@rem

@set /A ctr=0

:again

echo TnsPing Test > ping.lis
echo date /T  >> ping.lis
set /A ctr=ctr+1

if (%ctr%) == (1000) goto endloop
tnsping r816 >> ping.lis
goto again

:endloop

hope these help.


Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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Can anyone help me with a simple .bat script for NT that will run a TNSPING
against a certain connect descriptor and write the results to a file.  I
need to have the TNSPING run for say 1000 loops.  Once complete, I can
search through the file for errors.

Thanks,
Ed
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TNSPING Test Script for NT

2001-08-21 Thread Ed . Haskins

Can anyone help me with a simple .bat script for NT that will run a TNSPING
against a certain connect descriptor and write the results to a file.  I
need to have the TNSPING run for say 1000 loops.  Once complete, I can
search through the file for errors.

Thanks,
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RE: Apologies... linux & Oracle

2001-08-21 Thread Ed . Haskins
Title: Apologies... linux & Oracle



SCO 
makes a version of Linux now?  
 
Ed

  -Original Message-From: Koivu, Lisa 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 
  11:51 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Apologies... linux & Oracle
  Sorry everyone, I know you were just discussing 
  this recently.  
  What is the most stable combination of Oracle & 
  Linux?  What would you recommend?  I want to say the consensus was 
  SCO Linux but I don't quite remember.  
  Thank you 
  Lara Croft Oracle Database Administrator Fairfield Resorts, Inc 


RE: Apologies... linux & Oracle

2001-08-21 Thread Ed . Haskins
Title: Apologies... linux & Oracle



O.K...it looks like SCO was bought by Caldera, who 
sells a distribution of Linux under that name.
 
Ed
 

  -Original Message-From: Robertson Lee - lerobe 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 12:36 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  Apologies... linux & Oracle
  Lisa
   
  SuSe 
  is the best so I have been told. I am about to install 8i on 7.1 and another 
  guy here is installing 9i on 7.2.
   
  Totally untested on my behalf as I haven't started 
  yet but that is the best I have been told.
   
  Probably of no use whatsoever !!!
   
  Lee
  
  
  
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 21 August 2001 
16:51To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
Apologies... linux & Oracle
Sorry everyone, I know you were just discussing 
this recently.  
What is the most stable combination of Oracle 
& Linux?  What would you recommend?  I want to say the 
consensus was SCO Linux but I don't quite remember.  
Thank you 
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RE: linux

2001-08-20 Thread Ed . Haskins



Nope!

  -Original Message-From: Saravana Kumar 
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  Hi Friends,
      
  I have small clarification to be made.
      Can oracle for linux  
  software be intalled on FREE BSD.
   
  Thanks in advance
   
  Saravana
      



RE: No TNSListner service after intall 8.1.7 on Win 2k

2001-08-16 Thread Haskins, Ed
Title: RE: No TNSListner service after intall 8.1.7 on Win 2k



Lisa,
 
C:\> set 
ORACLE_SID=SID_NAME
Then...
C:\> set ORACLE_SID
ORACLE_SID=SID_NAME
 
Ed 
Haskins
Oracle 
DBA
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  -Original Message-From: Koivu, Lisa 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 
  2:22 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: No TNSListner service after intall 8.1.7 on Win 2k
  Hi Igor, thanks for your reply. 
  
  Call me a bonehead... but I got 
  nothing.  What am I missing? 
  C:\>set ORACLE_SID 
  Environment variable 
  ORACLE_SID not defined 
  C:\>sqlplus system 
  
  SQL*Plus: Release 8.1.7.0.0 - 
  Production on Thu Aug 16 13:18:15 2001 
  (c) Copyright 2000 Oracle 
  Corporation.  All rights reserved. 
  Enter password: 
  Connected to: 
  Oracle8i Release 8.1.7.0.0 - 
  Production JServer 
  Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production 
  SQL> select name from 
  v$database; 
  NAME - VIKING 
  SQL> 
  
  
-Original Message- From:   Igor 
Neyman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:   Thursday, August 
16, 2001 2:07 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:    Re: No TNSListner service after intall 8.1.7 on Win 
2k 
Lisa,   
Try:   
SET ORACLE_SID   You should get: 
  ORACLE_SID='your_sid'   
Igor Neyman, OCP DBAPerceptron, 
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  - Original Message - From: Koivu, Lisa <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Multiple recipients 
  of list ORACLE-L <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 1:28 PM Subject: RE: No TNSListner service 
  after intall 8.1.7 on Win 2k 
  Hi Rick, 
  I ran into this as well.  I 
  figured I didn't need a listener on my w2k box because everything was 
  going to be local.  However I couldn't connect via sqlplus gui 
  without a listener (no listener error - maybe because I am specifying the 
  sid).  I guess it's just another difference between Oracle on windows 
  and Oracle on Unix. 
  If I remember right (it's been 
  s long) when you connect in Unix with the $ORACLE_SID as part of your 
  env, you can do so without @. If you do it with the @, it looks for a 
  listener.   When connecting via a windows gui, you are 
  specifying the sid.  I'm guessing it's doing something similar to the 
  @ in the background.  The cmd window connects without the @ because 
  it's in the environment. 
  By the way, how do you display an 
  environment variable in Windows?  I thought it was echo %ORACLE_SID%, 
  but that doesn't work.  Anyone?
  Again I may be 
  pre-coffee. Lisa KoivuOracle Database 
  AdministratorFairfield Resorts, Inc.954-935-4117 
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  intall 8.1.7 on Win 2k 
  Hi All, 
  I did a typical installation of Oracle 8.1.7 on 
  Win 2k. It appears to haveinstalled Ok.  I can use srvmgrl -> create 
  database -> etc.However when I try to use worksheet I get no listner. I should not 
  need onefrom 
  the server. Anyway the install did not create serviceto start the listener.  
  All other installs I have done on NT always createda tnslistner service. This 
  in my first install on Win 2k.Anyone have any ideas on why service did not get created 
  and how to correct? 
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RE: Unix Client Install - OraInventory

2001-08-09 Thread Ed Maurer


Actually, on my original install, it went one level up from 
ORACLE_HOME - e.g, ORACLE_HOME was /dsk001/app/oracle/product/8.1.7;
the OraInventory,oui,jre went into /dsk001/app/oracle/product -
one level up. 
Since that's where I tarred/untarred to on the new machine, I
should have the installer info - at least it appears there.
All seems to work fine. I'll keep an eye out when/if patching!

Much and Many thanks for all the responses, I'll sleep easier.

Ed Maurer. 

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> 
> 
> But it is stored, by default, under the oracle account's home 
> directory
> (together with the OUI and jre).  I haven't tried it, but 
> maybe you could
> copy those as well?  I would guess that the paths to all of 
> these bits would
> have to be the same on both machines.
> 
> YMMV
> David Lord
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> 
> It will allow you to run Oracle, but you won't be able
> to upgrade it later. There some "orainventory" directory
> where OUI keeps track of what it has installed on this
> system. This folder is NOT stored in or under ORACLE_HOME
> 
> HTH & YYMV!
> 
> Ed Maurer wrote:
> 
> > Given virtually identical Unix machines (i.e.,
> > same kernel and patch sets,) is there any reason NOT
> > to take the cowards way out and use a tar file of
> > $ORACLE_HOME from the first client only install
> > (from CD with X-win client) to install to another
> > machine? My original install CD has 'walked'; I
> > could download and cpio ... or wait 3 days for
> > support to get me new CD's. Why shouldn't I use
> > the working installation as a base? Are there any
> > machine specific actions taken by the installer
> > besides obvious tnsnames if you use the installation
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> >
> > TIA
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Unix Client Install

2001-08-08 Thread Ed Maurer


Given virtually identical Unix machines (i.e., 
same kernel and patch sets,) is there any reason NOT
to take the cowards way out and use a tar file of
$ORACLE_HOME from the first client only install 
(from CD with X-win client) to install to another
machine? My original install CD has 'walked'; I
could download and cpio ... or wait 3 days for
support to get me new CD's. Why shouldn't I use
the working installation as a base? Are there any
machine specific actions taken by the installer
besides obvious tnsnames if you use the installation
gui) for client installations ?

TIA  
Ed Maurer
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3rd Party Java and Oracle Triggers

2001-08-06 Thread Ed Maurer



In the course of customizing 
one of our 3rd party apps that uses
Entity Beans to do multiple 
inserts to some tables, It has been 
decided we'd use triggers on 
the tables to do some RI logic and
insert essentially duplicate 
data into another database - Oracle
Financials interface, to be 
exact,
 
I've been opposed to this 
methodology, on the grounds that
nobody here can tell me exactly 
how this app is behaving 
in the first place. I've heard 
that some beans do stupid (sic) things like
insert a row, then update each 
column in the course of a single
transactional insert, thus 
requiring both insert and update triggers;
performance could be 
nightmarish, assuming we don't hit 4091
errors even trying to write the 
code.
 
Unfortunately, without some 
hard facts, I'm going to have a 
hard time convincing anyone 
this is bad practice. And
without tools to see exactly 
how the object(s) behaving, I won't
be able to prove it on our 
development platforms either.
 
Anyone have any experience 
here, or ideas for tools 
(besides  packet capture) that can assist 
?
 
TIA
 
Ed 
Maurer


Experience using Legato on a Veritas Cluster?

2001-07-24 Thread Ed Bittel

If anyone on the list has any experience using Legato
NetWorker on a Veritas cluster and wouldn't mind
responding to some questions, please send me a e-mail.

My questions pertain to configuration of Legato on a
Veritas cluster and some concerns I've developed about
recoverability after a node failover.

Thanks, 

Ed

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SHARED SQLNET.ora? RE: tnsnames.ora in clients

2001-07-24 Thread Haskins, Ed

Has anyone been successful with putting the SQLNET.ora file in the same
shared location as the TNSNAMES.ora file?  I know it's supposed to be used
solely on the user workstation in /network/admin (Net80/admin), but some
people are trying to place it on the shared drive as well.

We're actually implementing ONAMES, so we're replacing the SQLNET.ora file
to specify ONAMES, and some Regions are thinking they only need to place
this on the shared drive where TNS_ADMIN points to.  I don't think this is
supported or works in all situations.  Any experiences or comments??

Ed

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We use a shared tnsnames.ora from a NT server.

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> 
> 
> Does this method of "sharing" the tnsnames work for you? What 
> operating system are you using? I use Novell and when I tried 
> this method of sharing the tnsnames it wouls not work. We had 
> to resolve to downloading the latest copy to the users when 
> they logged in.
> ROR mª¿ªm
> 
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/23/01 11:41AM >>>
> You can write a script and each time when a user logs into a domain
> it will check and copy the latest tnsnames.ora file.  Or you can just
> place the tnsnames.ora file on the network drive and point everyone
> to it.
> 
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/23/01 10:55AM >>>
> Hello All,
> 
> Good morning!
> I would like to know how the 'tnsnames.ora' file on all 
> client(windows)
> machines can be updated automatically whenever something changed on
> central 'tnsnames.ora' file.
> Is this the process still being used extensively or else 
> advanced features
> like ONS.
> 
> Your suggestions are highly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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RE: Re: Oracle Internet Directory

2001-07-17 Thread Haskins, Ed

It's free if you use it simply for Net8...in replace of Oracle Names.  If
you want to use it for the other features...user authentication, etc...then
you need to pay.  I would contact Oracle for current pricing.  When I last
checked...you could purchase licensing based upon the number of entries in
the Directory.

Ed Haskins
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Sorry for the OT question.  Is OID free if I have the Enterprise license?
if not, how much is it?  I can't find pricing for it on oraclestore site.

thanks for any help.

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/17/01 12:50PM >>>
Check if the schemas ODS and ODSCOMMON exists.

Regards.


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RE: Scsi I/O speed

2001-07-11 Thread Haskins, Ed

Kev,

Make sure that the SCSI CD-ROM or Tape Drive aren't connected to this
controller.

Ed

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Well yeah, all of this makes perfect sense to me.  However, if I am testing
the devices I would assume that the test software is going to send as much
info as it can down the pipe, you know stuff it.  With the Ultra/160 I am
assuming that there is only a 80mb/s drive in there, I never opened it up
and looked, but I will now.  I will use a couple different utilities and see
if the rates are the same.
Also, I know that the drives I have in these machines are all 80mb/s
drives, at least in the other machines, so there shouldn't be any device
that is "bringing" down the rate.  I don't know, but I would love to try and
iprove this rate.
KK

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Kevin,

One thing to remember with SCSI...it's not necessarily the speed of the
controller that matters.  The SCSI bus will be slowed down to the speed of
the slowest device in the chain...or on the bus.  For example, if you have a
controller with 80mb/s and 3 HDs with 80mb/s and 1 HD at 40mb/s...all
running off the same controller...the bus speed will be no more than 40mb/s
(the speed of the slowest device).  Again, that is the theoretical max
speed.

Ed

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Hi all,
I was measuring the i/o performance of my scsi drives and I have a
quick
question that maybe someone could shed some light upon.  Currently I am
using Ultra 2/Wide scsi conrollers, this is supposed to have an I/O of
80mb/s.  Well, when I perform the test all of the machines seem to be
operation at halp of the max speed.  One operates at about 20mb/s read and
write and the others are even slower than that.  Now on the first one, it is
the only HD on the controller, on the others there are two disks.  Even on
my Ultra/160 it seems to be maxing out at 40 read and write.
Am I missing something?  Am I reading this the wrong way?  Help:(

Sincerely,
Kevin Kostyszyn
DBA
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RE: Oracle on NT unattended installation

2001-07-11 Thread Haskins, Ed



Joe,
 
I've done it for the Oracle 
Client, successfully.  This question was posted on LazyDBA, and a couple 
others responded that they were successful with it.
 
Ed

  -Original Message-From: JOE TESTA 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 2:41 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  Oracle on NT unattended installation
  Ed, you've gotten thats to work?, theory is nice, but r/l is 
  what counts
   
  joe
   
  >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/11/01 02:05PM 
  >>>
  Audrey,
   
  Yes, 
  you can do a silent install.  On a workstation / server that has Oracle 
  installed (NT/2000), go to:
   
  START | PROGRAMS | Oracle Installation Products | 
  Universal Installed Concepts Guide
   
  This 
  is in HTML format and will show you how you can do a silent 
  install.
   
  Ed
  
-Original Message-From: Andrey Bronfin 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 11:26 
AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
Oracle on NT unattended installation
Dear list ! Is 
there a possibility to do an unattended installation of Oracle server 
(8.1.7) on NT (Win2000) ? I mean an 
installation with a script or so without answering questions and clicking 
'Next' during the installation. If there 
is such a possibility for NT , would You please point me to a manual 
? I tried to RTFM and found 
nothing. Thanks a lot in advance. 
Andrey. 



RE: Oracle on NT unattended installation

2001-07-11 Thread Haskins, Ed
Title: Oracle on NT unattended installation



Audrey,
 
Yes, 
you can do a silent install.  On a workstation / server that has Oracle 
installed (NT/2000), go to:
 
START 
| PROGRAMS | Oracle Installation Products | Universal Installed Concepts 
Guide
 
This 
is in HTML format and will show you how you can do a silent 
install.
 
Ed

  -Original Message-From: Andrey Bronfin 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 11:26 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Oracle on NT unattended installation
  Dear list ! Is 
  there a possibility to do an unattended installation of Oracle server (8.1.7) 
  on NT (Win2000) ? I mean an installation 
  with a script or so without answering questions and clicking 'Next' during the 
  installation. If there is such a 
  possibility for NT , would You please point me to a manual ? I tried to RTFM and found nothing. Thanks a lot in advance. Andrey. 


RE: Scsi I/O speed

2001-07-11 Thread Haskins, Ed

Kevin,

One thing to remember with SCSI...it's not necessarily the speed of the
controller that matters.  The SCSI bus will be slowed down to the speed of
the slowest device in the chain...or on the bus.  For example, if you have a
controller with 80mb/s and 3 HDs with 80mb/s and 1 HD at 40mb/s...all
running off the same controller...the bus speed will be no more than 40mb/s
(the speed of the slowest device).  Again, that is the theoretical max
speed.

Ed

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Hi all,
I was measuring the i/o performance of my scsi drives and I have a
quick
question that maybe someone could shed some light upon.  Currently I am
using Ultra 2/Wide scsi conrollers, this is supposed to have an I/O of
80mb/s.  Well, when I perform the test all of the machines seem to be
operation at halp of the max speed.  One operates at about 20mb/s read and
write and the others are even slower than that.  Now on the first one, it is
the only HD on the controller, on the others there are two disks.  Even on
my Ultra/160 it seems to be maxing out at 40 read and write.
Am I missing something?  Am I reading this the wrong way?  Help:(

Sincerely,
Kevin Kostyszyn
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RE: SQL-Server Presentation/Reality Check

2001-06-27 Thread Ed Maurer


>From SQL-Server BOL (Books on Line)

"READ COMMITTED

Specifies that shared locks are held while the data is being read to avoid
dirty reads, but the data can be changed before the end of the transaction,
resulting in nonrepeatable reads or phantom data. This option is the SQL
Server default.

READ UNCOMMITTED

Implements dirty read, or isolation level 0 locking, which means that no
shared locks are issued and no exclusive locks are honored. When this option
is set, it is possible to read uncommitted or dirty data; values in the data
can be changed and rows can appear or disappear in the data set before the
end of the transaction. This option has the same effect as setting NOLOCK on
all tables in all SELECT statements in a transaction. This is the least
restrictive of the four isolation levels."

Note in the above 'nonreaptable reads'
and 'phantom data'. Again, from BOL:

nonrepeatable read:
When a transaction reads the same row more than one time, and between the
two (or more) reads, a separate transaction modifies that row. Because the
row was modified between reads within the same transaction, each read
produces different values, which introduces inconsistency.

phantom:
By one task, the insertion of a new row or the deletion of an existing row
in a range of rows previously read by another task that has not yet
committed its transaction. The task with the uncommitted transaction cannot
repeat its original read because of the change to the number of rows in the
range. If a connection sets its transaction isolation level to serializable,
SQL Server uses key-range locking to prevent phantoms.

My observations:
Note that setting the transaction isolation level to serializeable may make
large portions
of a table unavailable to another transaction yet that's the only way to
insure no phantom
data, and is too restrictive to be the default.

Also note that unless a transaction explicitly defines 'Begin Transaction', 
data is auto-committed. i.e. 'update students set lname='Smith'
followed by 'go' will trash your student table if you forget the 'where'
clause.
You cannot issue a rollback, since you didn't define a transaction. In
addition,
another transaction already reading the student table will get some
percentage
of all rows as 'Smith' even though it began before the 'bad' update.
Try it yourself, as a I did (I used a large 'waitfor' in the middle of
a procedural loop to simulate a larger table or more per-row processing)

HTH
Still unashamedly anti-Redmond, 

Ed Maurer
Sr. DBA
Acquirex


> -Original Message-
> From: Post, Ethan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 2:35 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: SQL-Server Presentation/Reality Check
> 
> 
> Can you provide some references to lack of support of 
> read-consistency.  Not
> that I don't believe you but I just read that to a guy next 
> to me and he is
> clamoring for evidence. - E
> 
> -Original Message-
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> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> Privilege ? Reality? Reality and MS is an oxymoron.
> I've had the fortune (misfortune) to become a SQL Server DBA
> in addition to my Oracle duties, due to packaged application
> requirements. As an admitted defiler of all MS stands for and
> it's dubious accomplishments, I'll offer a few grains of sand,
> most of which you might be advised to take up with management
> away from the MS marketing morons.
> 
> First, be aware that MS pricing is not nearly as inexpensive
> as their hype would have you believe, once you remember that they
> have always charged for upgrades, their discounts aren't usually
> as steep, and support... well, what there is of it s. I've
> spent 3 calls at $245.00 each only to be told each time the
> answer was to 'reboot'. This on W2K/SS2K fail-over cluster,
> with many of their best support people contributing to this
> non-solution. 
> 
> On a technical note: Virtually every one of their new speed
> marks of note have been done on multi-server clusters; Oracle
> still holds most single-server benchmarks. Additionally, their
> application benchmarks have no relationship to real world, as
> even their SAP benchmark was done on a modified SAP installation
> not available in 'ordinary' SAP applications.
> The overhead of multi-server/cluster management makes their
> scalability arguments, even if they could be accommodated by 
> existing software, moot. 
> 
> Self-Tuning - Bah, Humbug. I've had the opportunity to see
> some server code from SAP, PeopleSoft and Commerce One designed 
> for SQL Server. Guess what ? The real 

RE: SQL-Server Presentation/Reality Check

2001-06-27 Thread Ed Maurer

Privilege ? Reality? Reality and MS is an oxymoron.
I've had the fortune (misfortune) to become a SQL Server DBA
in addition to my Oracle duties, due to packaged application
requirements. As an admitted defiler of all MS stands for and
it's dubious accomplishments, I'll offer a few grains of sand,
most of which you might be advised to take up with management
away from the MS marketing morons.

First, be aware that MS pricing is not nearly as inexpensive
as their hype would have you believe, once you remember that they
have always charged for upgrades, their discounts aren't usually
as steep, and support... well, what there is of it s. I've
spent 3 calls at $245.00 each only to be told each time the
answer was to 'reboot'. This on W2K/SS2K fail-over cluster,
with many of their best support people contributing to this
non-solution. 

On a technical note: Virtually every one of their new speed
marks of note have been done on multi-server clusters; Oracle
still holds most single-server benchmarks. Additionally, their
application benchmarks have no relationship to real world, as
even their SAP benchmark was done on a modified SAP installation
not available in 'ordinary' SAP applications.
The overhead of multi-server/cluster management makes their
scalability arguments, even if they could be accommodated by 
existing software, moot. 

Self-Tuning - Bah, Humbug. I've had the opportunity to see
some server code from SAP, PeopleSoft and Commerce One designed 
for SQL Server. Guess what ? The real stuff, that which has to
perform, is often hinted (statements like 
'option (loop join , force order, maxdop 1 )' which is pretty
much self explanatory; 'maxdop 1' = Oracle's noparallel.) 

Then there's the entire discussion of read-consistency, which
SQL Server doesn't support. A whole thread there, and one 
reason why SQL Server can be very quick in some operations: No
RBS to support. Everything is done from the transaction logs.

And then there's functionality... 

Just my 2 cents... 

Ed Maurer
Sr. DBA
Acquirex




 
 
 
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I have the privilege of being tasked to attend a SQL Server presentation to 
be conducted by Microsoft at our site.   Our company's current take on SQL 
Server is that it's to be used only in the case where a packaged application

requires it, or when there are 'tactical' exceptions, while Oracle is viewed
as 
being 'strategic'.   However, given the 'challenges' with Oracle's new
pricing 
methods, there is being given increased consideration to expanding SQL 
Server's use. 
Now, I know next to nothing about SQL Server, and while I would appreciate
the 
opportunity to learn it, I don't want to go to the presentation and let the 
MS marketing droids completely have their way, some reality checks need to 
be presented. 
So, what questions/issues/considerations should I raise during the
presentation?   
TIA! 
Jeff T 
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Legato NetWorker & RMAN: A troublesome pair?

2001-06-26 Thread Ed Bittel

The subject line may be overstating things a bit, but
I'm pretty frustrated at the moment.  

Backups are working fine when I run them manually
(i.e., from a command line or within the RMAN
utility).   The problem is trying to schedule the
Oracle backups through the NetWorker Administration
GUI.  Scheduled filesystem backups work fine. 

Our attempts to schedule a working backup fail without
generating any useful errors in /nsr/logs/messages or
/nsr/logs/daemon.log. Basically, the logs just say
that  the savegroup failed.  Setting the
NSR_SB_DEBUG_FILE in the nsrnmo script hasn't helped
because nothing is being written to the log file.  

The Legato knowledgebase, if you can call it that, has
been of little use (other than to confirm that the
output we have received isn't specific enough to debug
the problem).  What I've seen on MetaLink leads me to
wonder if people who use the Legato NetWorker/RMAN
actually schedule their backups through the
Administration GUI or fall back to good 'ol reliable
cron jobs.   

So, if you use Legato NetWorker for your Oracle
backups:

Do you schedule them through the Admin GUI or through
cron?

Do you know of anything we should check that may not
have been covered in the NetWorker administration
manual?

If you've had similar problems, I love to hear what
the problem was.

TIA for your help.

Ed

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RE: Re[2]: Serious Question (believe it or not)...

2001-06-07 Thread Haskins, Ed

Jonathan,

Everyone has there own reasons for wanting to write a book.  For me, the
reasons are:

1. Credibility with peers / clients
2. Sense of accomplishment
3. Enjoy sharing information with people
4. Some extra cash

I would certainly say that the first 3 are TRUELY the reason that I would
consider such a project, but the extra cash is always a plus!!  I certainly
am not interested in getting into anyone's personal finances...but could you
give us some indication / range of what an author could expect to receive
from a book deal?  I'm sure it varies depending upon the topic and
salesability...but what's a good range?  How are book deals typically
structured?

Thanks,
Ed Haskins
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Wednesday, June 06, 2001, 4:53:21 PM, Christopher Spence wrote:
CS> I hope your not doing it to get rich :)

Chris brings up a good point. It's *extremely* difficult to
predict book sales in advance. Editors get surprised all the
time. Books we think will sell well, don't. And sometimes
it's the other way around. It's best to go in with low
expectations, and hopefully you'll come out pleasantly
surprised.

Best regards,

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RE: What stands for i in Oracle 8i

2001-06-06 Thread Haskins, Ed



I'm 
pretty sure it means..."i"ncredibly 
expensive!!
 
Ed 
Haskins
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DBA
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  stands for i in Oracle 8iHi,I am just curious 
  about to know for what that i stands for in 
  Oracle 8i.Can any one shed some 
  light?Thanks,
  Muths   "Do not go where the path may lead, go 
  instead where there is no path and leave a trail." 



RE: What stands for i in Oracle 8i

2001-06-06 Thread Haskins, Ed



Actually now that I think about it... the "i" in 
Oracle8i actually stands for "i"diot proof.  This is what Larry was talking 
about when he made things easier so that less DBAs were 
needed.
 
Are 
you an idiot??  ;-)
 
Ed 
Haskins
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DBA
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  about to know for what that i stands for in 
  Oracle 8i.Can any one shed some 
  light?Thanks,
  Muths   "Do not go where the path may lead, go 
  instead where there is no path and leave a trail." 



RE: OT: TUSC and Kevin Loney

2001-06-05 Thread Haskins, Ed
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RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney

2001-06-04 Thread Haskins, Ed

This info can be found on www.tusc.com in a Press Release.

Ed Haskins
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>I guess I am the last to discover this, but Kevin now works for TUSC.

No Patrice - you were not the last! I thought Kevin was 'independent', so
where did you get this info from? Anyway, TUSC is big in the Oracle area,
and I wouldn't be surprised.

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RE: Database writer

2001-06-04 Thread Haskins, Ed

Kev,

Trying to add multiple DBWR processes on NT is useless since NT uses asynch.
I/O.  If you remember, all the Oracle processes (DBWR, LGWR, CKPT, ARCH,
etc.) run as threads under the oracle.exe process.

Multiple DBWR processes are definitely a Unix thing!

Also, here's something from MetaStink on the issue:

Oracle on NT only allows/needs a single database writer process (DBWR). 

Multiple DBWRs on UNIX is not multiple "real" DBWRs which 
all go scan for dirty buffers and write them to disk. It's really just one
"real" DBWR and some I/O slaves. The "real" DBWR tells the slave DBWRs to do
I/O. 

On NT, there's really no need for this since async I/O and NT will 
take care of all that for you. NT acts as the I/O slaves and the "real" DBWR
[1 DBWR thread] then checks the "slaves" to see if the I/O is done. 

Melissa Holman 
Oracle Support


Ed

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Hi all,
I added db writer processes last week to try and improve performance
of one
of my 8.1.7 db's on NT.  Does anyone know if there is a way to see if Oracle
actually started the additional db writer processes?  I added
db_writer_processes to the init file, the instance started so I am assuming
that the db writer processes are working.  But we all know what happens when
we assume something.  Any ideas would be appreciated.

Sincerely,
Kevin Kostyszyn
DBA
Dulcian, Inc
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RE: Bumoer Stickers [RE: Rebuilding indexes]

2001-06-01 Thread Haskins, Ed

Kev,

Read The F*%&ing Manual

People get RTFM'd much more on the LazyDBA list than here...but I'm fairly
certain this must have been used on this List as well at one point or
another!!

Ed

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What does RTFM mean?

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Don't forget these:

"RTFM"

"Unix or NT?"

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>It got me thinking that it would be fun to have some bumper
stickers made up for
>members of this list.  Some ideas I had:

>"ARE YOU AN IDIOT?"

>or

>"SHUTDOWN ABORT"


Don't forget "HELP"

- Kirti

> -Original Message-
> From: Jeremiah Wilton [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 12:47 PM
> To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject:  RE: Rebuilding indexes
>
> On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Hatzistavrou Giannis wrote:
>
> > I don;t quite understand you quoting
> > "Once the indexes have all
> > been rebuilt nologging into the original tablespace, all that's left
> > is to
> > refresh the datafiles for that tablespace onto the primary.  "
> > Is primary a typo error (i.e. standby)?
>
> Argh!  It was a typo.  Of course, after doing many unrecoverable
> operations, you
> should refresh the affected datafiles from the primary to the standby.
>
> Vadim Gorbounov mentioned the column 'unrecoverable_change#' in
> v$datafile.
> This looks like an SCN, not a count of unrecoverable changes.  Either way,
> it
> seems like a useful way to decide if a datafile shoule be refreshed onto
> the
> standby.  I can even imagine improving a standby log applier that could be
> made
> to refresh such files from the primary automatically.
>
> On another topic, I believe I qualify for some sort of award as uber geek.
> This week I obtained the Washington State license plate "ORA DBA" for my
> '74
> Volvo.
>
> It got me thinking that it would be fun to have some bumper stickers made
> up for
> members of this list.  Some ideas I had:
>
> "ARE YOU AN IDIOT?"
>
> or
>
> "SHUTDOWN ABORT"
>
> --
> Jeremiah Wilton
> http://www.speakeasy.net/~jwilton
>
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RE: Bumoer Stickers [RE: Rebuilding indexes]

2001-06-01 Thread Haskins, Ed

Don't forget these:

"RTFM"

"Unix or NT?"

"URGENT: Tell me everything you know about ___?"



Ed Haskins
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>It got me thinking that it would be fun to have some bumper
stickers made up for
>members of this list.  Some ideas I had:

>"ARE YOU AN IDIOT?"

>or

>"SHUTDOWN ABORT"


Don't forget "HELP" 

- Kirti 

> -Original Message-
> From: Jeremiah Wilton [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 12:47 PM
> To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject:  RE: Rebuilding indexes
> 
> On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Hatzistavrou Giannis wrote:
> 
> > I don;t quite understand you quoting
> > "Once the indexes have all
> > been rebuilt nologging into the original tablespace, all that's left
> > is to
> > refresh the datafiles for that tablespace onto the primary.  "
> > Is primary a typo error (i.e. standby)?
> 
> Argh!  It was a typo.  Of course, after doing many unrecoverable
> operations, you
> should refresh the affected datafiles from the primary to the standby.
> 
> Vadim Gorbounov mentioned the column 'unrecoverable_change#' in
> v$datafile.
> This looks like an SCN, not a count of unrecoverable changes.  Either way,
> it
> seems like a useful way to decide if a datafile shoule be refreshed onto
> the
> standby.  I can even imagine improving a standby log applier that could be
> made
> to refresh such files from the primary automatically.
> 
> On another topic, I believe I qualify for some sort of award as uber geek.
> This week I obtained the Washington State license plate "ORA DBA" for my
> '74
> Volvo.
> 
> It got me thinking that it would be fun to have some bumper stickers made
> up for
> members of this list.  Some ideas I had:
> 
> "ARE YOU AN IDIOT?"
> 
> or
> 
> "SHUTDOWN ABORT"
> 
> --
> Jeremiah Wilton
> http://www.speakeasy.net/~jwilton
> 
> 
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RE: ORACLE NAMES /LDAP

2001-05-31 Thread Haskins, Ed

Interesting...Oracle must have changed their minds on this issue.  I know we
complained that it seemed crazy for us to pay for OiD when ONAMES is
free...considering Oracle is de-supporting ONAMES and practically forcing
customers to go with OiD (LDAP).  I guess they actually used some of the
feedback we and others provided to straighten out the inconsistency!!

Ed Haskins
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Hi, 
Actually, it's not so bad.
OiD is licensed separately ONLY when used as general purpose directory
service.
Check Metalink Note:135696.1

"13. Do I need to license OID when deploying the directory for NET8 ?

Answer
--
No, deploying OID for NET8 is free of charge."

Vadim Gorbounov
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OiD is a "separately licensable product"...not included as part of the DB
license.  If I remember correctly, you have the UPU license calculation or a
per entry license @ $50/, with 5000 entries being the minimum!!

Ed Haskins
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Hi Ed,

Why do you say that OiD "is not cheap"?  I haven't seen any associated
costs, other than servers to put it on.  Can you explain?

The "complicated" part, though I definitely agree with!  :)

Thx!

Rich Jesse  System/Database Administrator
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Vikas,

I just implemented Oracle Names (8.1.6) for Verizon
Wireless...corporate-wide.  I've setup three ONAMES servers: 

1.  At Corporate Headquarters in NJ.  This server contains the region
database for ONAMES.  It also serves as the "Secondary" ONAMES server
corporate-wide.

2.  In data center in NY.  This server provides "Primary" ONAMES services to
the corporate regions in both the North East and South areas.

3.  In data center in CA.  This server provides "Primary" ONAMES services to
the corporate regions in both the West and Midwest areas.

This infrastructure supports 26,000 users accessing 250+ databases
corporate-wide.

Oracle Names is making its' terminal release in 9i.  Oracle is recommending
that companies migrate to their LDAP (Oracle Internet Directory) solution.
This solution is not cheap...so we have decided to wait probably another
year or so before going this route.  OiD is also a bit more complicated to
setup and administer.

Ed Haskins
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RE: ORACLE NAMES /LDAP

2001-05-31 Thread Haskins, Ed

OiD is a "separately licensable product"...not included as part of the DB
license.  If I remember correctly, you have the UPU license calculation or a
per entry license @ $50/, with 5000 entries being the minimum!!

Ed Haskins
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Hi Ed,

Why do you say that OiD "is not cheap"?  I haven't seen any associated
costs, other than servers to put it on.  Can you explain?

The "complicated" part, though I definitely agree with!  :)

Thx!

Rich Jesse  System/Database Administrator
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Vikas,

I just implemented Oracle Names (8.1.6) for Verizon
Wireless...corporate-wide.  I've setup three ONAMES servers: 

1.  At Corporate Headquarters in NJ.  This server contains the region
database for ONAMES.  It also serves as the "Secondary" ONAMES server
corporate-wide.

2.  In data center in NY.  This server provides "Primary" ONAMES services to
the corporate regions in both the North East and South areas.

3.  In data center in CA.  This server provides "Primary" ONAMES services to
the corporate regions in both the West and Midwest areas.

This infrastructure supports 26,000 users accessing 250+ databases
corporate-wide.

Oracle Names is making its' terminal release in 9i.  Oracle is recommending
that companies migrate to their LDAP (Oracle Internet Directory) solution.
This solution is not cheap...so we have decided to wait probably another
year or so before going this route.  OiD is also a bit more complicated to
setup and administer.

Ed Haskins
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RE: Suggestions on SCSI

2001-05-31 Thread Haskins, Ed

Kev,

1.  I have never heard of a cache directly on the hard drive (Which
certainly doesn't mean it doesn't exist).  I have heard of a cache on the
controller for the HD!

2.  I assume that you are looking at upgrading one of the Dell Workstations,
yes?  If so, I highly recommend calling Dell and ordering HD's from them
that are supported for that Workstation.  Dell uses high quality products
such as Seagate and IBM for HDs, so don't worry.  The main concern is
compatibility and continued support!!

3.  The majority of Dulcian's DBs are small development databases...so you
will likely never need 4x18 GB of space... 4x9 GB will suffice.  But, check
the pricing difference...if the price diff isn't too crazy...go with 18.
You should probably go with 1 9 GB for the OS and 3 18s for the database.

4.  Ultra Fibre SCSI...I'm not 100% on this, but I would say that these
drives are optimized for external storage where Fibre Channel is used to
connect the server to the storage cabinet (certainly not your case).

Ed Haskins
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Hi all,
Just thought I would throw this one out there and see what all of
you hot
shots think.  I am going to rebuild a server into a DB Server.  Currently it
has IDE drives in there and obviously I am not going to be using those.  So
I need to invest in some new SCSI drives.  Here's what I had in mind:

Either 4 X 9.2 Gig 10K RPM with 2mb Cache
OR 4 X 18.4 GIG 10K with 4MB cache

I was initially leaning towards the 9 gigs to save on cost, however someone
pointed out that 18 would be a better idea for growth down the line.  Also I
want to keep them all of the same size in case one goes down then I may have
room on another.
What are your thoughts on this?  Does anyone know what "ultra fibre
scsi"
means?  Does anyone recommend brands to stear clear of?  I know that Seagate
is a pretty good name, but I can't find any in Ultra 2?  Anyone know if
Hitachi is a good name?
Thanks in advance.

Sincerely,
Kevin Kostyszyn
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Dulcian, Inc
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RE: Oracle Applications

2001-05-31 Thread Haskins, Ed

Finding Oracle DBAs with 4 years experience is tough enough...forget about 4
years experience with Apps!!

Ed Haskins
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Still no response from Oracle Canada, I left a message again - they didn't
know what to do when people order CD Packs...

Meanwhile I saw on the 'net a job posting that had as one of the competency
requirements:  4 years experience with Oracle Applications.

I guess this is supposed to be funny.

: )

Patrice Boivin
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RE: ORACLE NAMES /LDAP

2001-05-31 Thread Haskins, Ed

Vikas,

I just implemented Oracle Names (8.1.6) for Verizon
Wireless...corporate-wide.  I've setup three ONAMES servers: 

1.  At Corporate Headquarters in NJ.  This server contains the region
database for ONAMES.  It also serves as the "Secondary" ONAMES server
corporate-wide.

2.  In data center in NY.  This server provides "Primary" ONAMES services to
the corporate regions in both the North East and South areas.

3.  In data center in CA.  This server provides "Primary" ONAMES services to
the corporate regions in both the West and Midwest areas.

This infrastructure supports 26,000 users accessing 250+ databases
corporate-wide.

Oracle Names is making its' terminal release in 9i.  Oracle is recommending
that companies migrate to their LDAP (Oracle Internet Directory) solution.
This solution is not cheap...so we have decided to wait probably another
year or so before going this route.  OiD is also a bit more complicated to
setup and administer.

Ed Haskins
Oracle DBA
Verizon Wireless



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Anyone using this product as an alternative to Local Naming ? How about LDAP
?

Any info /suggestions/comments are welcome 

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RE: Is DBMS_OBFUSCATION free in Enterprise Edition?

2001-05-30 Thread Haskins, Ed

Free...unless you look at the TCO (Total Cost of Ownership).

;-)

Ed Haskins
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It is free - very definite answer :-)

Alex Hillman

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We have Enterprise Edition 8.1.7.1 on Sun Solaris 2.6.

My manager needs a definitive answer.   Is DBMS_OBFUSCATION
free with this version of Enterprise Edition server or is it part of an
extra-cost add-on.

All definitive answers welcome. I have a call in to Oracle but they
have not yet responded.  My manager wants to know today.

Thanks,

Cherie Machler
Oracle DBA
Gelco Information Network


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RE: MS access

2001-05-24 Thread Haskins, Ed
Title: MS access



Li,
 
1GB 
for Access would be huge...and cause very poor performance.  The only way 
to overcome the size limitation is to upgrade to a real database...preferably 
Oracle, but that SQL Server thing would work as well for a DB that 
size.
 
Ed 
Haskins
Oracle 
DBA
Verizon Wireless
 

  -Original Message-From: Li, Xiangli 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 11:57 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: MS 
  access
  Hi, List Is 
  there anyone happen to know what's the database size limitation for MS 
  access97? I heard it's 1 gigabytes, how to overcome it if that's 
  true?
  thanks Li 
  


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