RE: Database Instance

2003-12-26 Thread Sinardy Xing
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RE: Database Instance

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RE: Database Instance

2003-12-23 Thread Sinardy Xing
Think of Object Oriented, then 1 db can be an Object, better security, easy to upgrade 
or downgrade, easy to change any setting as you like.
Think of memory, overhead, administration, 1 instance will be better (I think, 
specially backup and recovery)
Think of performance, you can tune each db individually and contention will quite easy 
to maintain.
Think of risk and potential application bug, why your management want to overhaul the 
system?

About the schema that transparent or invisible, you can search Oracle Doc (SQL Plus) 
with key word "GRANT" or "REVOKE" (If you decide to merge your databases)

Merry X'mas

Sinardy


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Dear : All

First and foremost , if i ask stupid question pls
forgive me coz i new to oralce. I have a question
here.

I have a server, and this server contains 5 oracle
database. Each database contains 5 web application
that are running on live ( production server ). As i
understand abt oracle , every database that i created
will have 1 instance. So since this server hold 5
database then i will have 5 instances running.

Lately, my manager want me to remove all the databases
and remain a single instance. I was wondering if i
move everything into single database then if one of
the application fail due to oracle error , then all
other four application will fail also rite ? 

Each of our web application needs to have 2 schema and
both schema have to be transparent to each other.
While other application schema will be invisible to
each other. Since i have 5 web app then i will need 10
schema.One major problem is all the 10 schema will
contain same table name. It will be a mess putting so
much app in a single db . 

Pls correct me if i am wrong and do let me know what
are the pro and cons or maybe you can educate me with
some of the best practice to setup a proper production
server environment.

Thank You

Regards,
Jkean  



 

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RE: Free Memory in v$sgastat

2003-12-16 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi,

Those are lines from my friend Oracle University student guide (Original)


Sinardy

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Sinardy, where does oracle say anything like that about free memory? Please,
quote me an article or URL. Second, if you are not using MTS, your PGA is a 
part of your dedicated server address space, not SGA. It does exist, though. 
Similarly, UGA goes to shared pool instead. Buy yourself The Book (Practical
Oracle 8i) and read all about the architecture. I'll get rich from all commissions
I receive. 

of large pool. 
On 12/16/2003 12:24:25 AM, Sinardy Xing wrote:
> Hi Mladen,
> 
> I try to understand 8i, and I am not using MTS, my current understanding is UGA and 
> PGA only exists (I mean in use or in the picture) when you are using MTS.
> 
> Oracle themselves said "'free memory' are more properly thought of as wasted space"
> 
> I just wondering why this million dollar RDBMS can't make use of this space? 
> everything are in terms of Oracle Block, you can release and reuse the blocks.
> Well maybe quite difficult to get long continuous blocks, but it still free space, I 
> am so blur now
> 
> 
> Sinardy
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> -Original Message-
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> 
> Sinardy, you've attended wrong database tuning course. You need free memory in your 
> shared pool.
> There is no such thing as "sga fragmentation" unless there is not enough free memory 
> to satisfy average
> request. While  oracle is not monitoring the size of an average shared pool request. 
> you have things
> like session_uga_memory and session_pga_memory in v$mystat. In v9 there is also 
> "session_stored_procedure_space".
> If the instance doesn't have enough room to load the next thing to execute (SQL, 
> PL/SQL, Java), it will have 
> to make room. Generally speaking, making room hurts.  You want to have enough room 
> to load your
> stuff into the shared pool and then some.  That "room" is also known as "free 
> space".  Look into the tuning manual on the 
> OTN and make sure that your buffer cache hit ratio is high enough (sorry folks, I 
> couldn't resist).
> 
> 
> 
> On 2003.12.15 23:19, Sinardy Xing wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >  
> > Why free memory in v$sgastat is a symptom of the fragmentation?
> >  
> > Why these "free memory" are more properly thought of as wasted space?
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > Thanks
> >  
> > Sinardy
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RE: alter tablespace offline

2003-12-16 Thread Sinardy Xing



Hi 
Jeroen,
 
What 
is problem? Error msg or something?
 
Sinardy

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 16 December 2003 
  18:12To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  alter tablespace offline
  
   
  Hi,
   
  This 
  weekend I was migrating an oracle 7.3.4 environment 
  to oracle 9.2.0.4 and we encountered
  a strange 
  problem in issueing alter tablespace name offline.
  I had to 
  reorganize tablespace and when testing this I did 
  this manually and no problem at all.
  I put 
  the statements in a script.
   
  Executing 
  the script put the tablespace offlline
  with exactly 
  : alter tablespace name 
  offline
  Moving 
  the file with os and then starting up the database 
  in mount phase lead to the problem it would not do 
  this.
   
  Backtracking 
  this to a test environment and rereading the docs lead me to that I should 
  have used
  alter tablespace name offline 
normal
   
  I cannot 
  remember whether I did this ok in the first tests but I might have copied it 
  wrong into my script.
  What is 
  the problem in issueing a alter tablespace name offline so without the normal 
  clause?
   
  Details: 
  HP-UX11.11, Oracle 9.2.0.4
   
  Regards,
   
  Jeroen


RE: Free Memory in v$sgastat

2003-12-15 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi Mladen,

I try to understand 8i, and I am not using MTS, my current understanding is UGA and 
PGA only exists (I mean in use or in the picture) when you are using MTS.

Oracle themselves said "'free memory' are more properly thought of as wasted space"

I just wondering why this million dollar RDBMS can't make use of this space? 
everything are in terms of Oracle Block, you can release and reuse the blocks.
Well maybe quite difficult to get long continuous blocks, but it still free space, I 
am so blur now


Sinardy

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Sinardy, you've attended wrong database tuning course. You need free memory in your 
shared pool.
There is no such thing as "sga fragmentation" unless there is not enough free memory 
to satisfy average
request. While  oracle is not monitoring the size of an average shared pool request. 
you have things
like session_uga_memory and session_pga_memory in v$mystat. In v9 there is also 
"session_stored_procedure_space".
If the instance doesn't have enough room to load the next thing to execute (SQL, 
PL/SQL, Java), it will have 
to make room. Generally speaking, making room hurts.  You want to have enough room to 
load your
stuff into the shared pool and then some.  That "room" is also known as "free space".  
Look into the tuning manual on the 
OTN and make sure that your buffer cache hit ratio is high enough (sorry folks, I 
couldn't resist).



On 2003.12.15 23:19, Sinardy Xing wrote:
> Hi all,
>  
> Why free memory in v$sgastat is a symptom of the fragmentation?
>  
> Why these "free memory" are more properly thought of as wasted space?
>  
>  
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Sinardy
> 

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Free Memory in v$sgastat

2003-12-15 Thread Sinardy Xing



Hi 
all,
 
Why free memory in 
v$sgastat is a symptom of the fragmentation?
 
Why these "free 
memory" are more properly thought of as wasted space?
 
 
 
Thanks
 
Sinardy


RE: Clean temporary tablespace

2003-11-12 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi,

Restartup your database if possible.

If you set the datafile autoextent on then you have to recreate that tablespace, 
if you set it to not autoextent on for some query may fail due to not enough sorting 
space.


Sinardy

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Hello!

How can I clean temporary tablespace? It grows up faster and faster.

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RE: Multithreaded server - effect of POOLING=ON option

2003-11-12 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi Peter,

pooling is for:
user that connected but idle will be disconnected temporary for new incoming or 
outgoing request.

ON or BOTH or YES or TRUE is to turn on 
OFF or FALSE or NO is default to turn off
IN for incoming connection only
OUT for outgoing connection only


Sinardy
 

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Hi Peter,

There are many parameters for this particular option:

ON, OFF, YES, NO, IN, OUT, TRUE, FALSE, BOTH

(not even sure I've exhausted the entire list here)

Used for connection pooling, the values you choose for
this parameter impact your idle network connections.

For more info, feel free to check out this link:

http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/cd/B10501_01/network.920/a96580/mts.htm#453787

hth,
melanie

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RE: Antw: RE: I wanna know how Oracle uses file organization in

2003-10-31 Thread Sinardy Xing
No I am serious

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Hi Sinardy,

one little correction: you forgot the winking smiley
at the end of your last sentence ;-)

Greetings,
Guido

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 31.10.2003  05.39 Uhr >>>
Hi Thai,

B-tree is short for binary tree, Indexing method make use of Binary search function to 
fast retrieve your records, therefore require sorted records.
B+ tree (I don't know this one, never heard)

Go to www.Oracle.com download the document for free.

Reading order:
1. Concept
2. SQLPlus
3. DB Admin
4. Backup and Recovery
5. Network

After you finish all of these you have basic skill, you can be an Oracle DBA.


Good luck.

Sinardy


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RE: UNIX OT: deleting file starting with --

2003-10-30 Thread Sinardy Xing
rm -i ??cart

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Hi,
How do I delete a file named  --cart ?
Thanks,
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RE: I wanna know how Oracle uses file organization in their DB

2003-10-30 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi Thai,

B-tree is short for binary tree, Indexing method make use of Binary search function to 
fast retrieve your records, therefore require sorted records.
B+ tree (I don't know this one, never heard)

Go to www.Oracle.com download the document for free.

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Good luck.

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Hello all,

I am looking for documents saying how Oracle uses file organizations like B-tree, B+ 
tree, heap file, index file . in their database.

If you know where I can get those documentations, could you let me know?

Thank you.

Thai

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RE: How to drop a datafile ?

2003-10-29 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi,

How about do these:

1. Create new tablespace
2. Move all objects from Old tablespace to new tablespace
3. drop old tablespace and delete the files
4. recreate the old tablespace with correct datafiles size
5. move all objects from new tablespace to redesign old tablespace
6. drop new tablespace and delete the files.

Only if your database size is small or medium.

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I don't beelive you can drop a datafile from a tablespace, you have to drop 
the tablespace, just reaize the datafile to 1M if space is the problem

Regards

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>doc 111316.1 doesn't mention about using
>OEM for the same.
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>so i hope it cannot be done with OEM.
>am i right LIST ?
>
>so how do i do it from sqlplus ?
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RE: dba interview questions

2003-10-28 Thread Sinardy Xing
I ask things like "tell me the thing you've done that you are most
proud of" and "tell me your nightmare situation and how did you recover
from it"

Ans: My worst nightmare, my date pick her nose infront of me, I call cab infront of 
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RE: Renaming Role

2003-10-22 Thread Sinardy Xing
1. create the new role

2. create script 
spool /tmp/move_role.sql
select 'alter user ' || grantee || ' grant new_role;' from dba_users where 
granted_role = 'OLD_ROLE'
host more /tmp/move_role.sql
--@/tmp/move_role

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Dear all,
Is it possible to rename a role? If it can't be done, what is the best
approach to port all the users in the "old" role to the new "role"? Thanks
in advance.

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RE: Can I concatenate several rows without a procedure?

2003-10-22 Thread Sinardy Xing
That is post fix binary tree POST FIX, right?



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Stephane,

Pretty slick trick!!! But I can't believe that you, of all people, didn't
throw in an analytic just to confuse things even more, plus, avoid that
second pass on sliced_kipling ;-)

SQL> l
  1  select translate(ltrim(text, '/'), '/', ' ') verse
  2  from (select text, row_number() over (partition by verse order by
verse, lvl desc) rn
  3from (select verse, level lvl, sys_connect_by_path(chunk, '/')
text
  4  from sliced_kipling
  5  connect by verse = prior verse
  6 and piece - 1 = prior piece))
  7* where rn = 1
SQL> /

VERSE


Oh, East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet,
Till Earth and Sky stand presently at God's great Judgment Seat;
But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,
When two strong men stand face to face, tho' they come from the ends of the
earth!

And hey, it reduced sorts and consistent gets in this particular case ;-)
Ok, my head hurts from dumb SQL tricks, someone else take it further from
here ;-)

Later,

Larry G. Elkins
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> SQL> select * from sliced_kipling;
>
>  VERSEPIECE CHUNK
> -- -- --
>1  1 Oh, East is East,
>1  2 and West is West,
>1  3 and never the twain shall meet,
>2  1 Till Earth and Sky stand
>2  2 presently at God's great Judgment Seat;
>3  1 But there is neither East nor West,
>3  2 Border,
>3  3 nor Breed,
>3  4 nor Birth,
>4  1 When two strong men stand face to face,
>4  2 tho' they come from the ends of the earth!
>
> 11 rows selected.
>
> SQL> @magic_query
>
> VERSE
> --
> --
> Oh, East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet,
> Till Earth and Sky stand presently at God's great Judgment Seat;
> But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,
> When two strong men stand face to face, tho' they come from the ends of
> the earth!
>
>
> SQL> l
>   1  select  translate(ltrim(x.text, '/'), '/', ' ') verse
>   2  from (select verse, level lvl, sys_connect_by_path(chunk, '/') text
>   3  from sliced_kipling
>   4  connect by verse = prior verse
>   5 and piece - 1 = prior piece) x,
>   6  (select verse, max(piece) piecemax
>   7   from sliced_kipling
>   8   group by verse) y
>   9  where x.verse = y.verse
>  10and x.lvl = y.piecemax
>  11* order by x.verse
> SQL>
>
> I am not sure though that I satisfy the 'simple SQL' requirement :-).



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RE: DB Parameters

2003-10-09 Thread Sinardy Xing
use bind variable

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Hi  List ,

Can you  help me please ,

What  are the database parameters that i have to increase or modify in
order to increase the speed of my ddl
statments ,i have a  statment  that delete a table with 4 record but it
takes about  nine hours to accomplish !!!

Is their   any parameters on the server  that i have to check ??,Increase
rollback segment is not helpfull at all .
Iam runningoracle  9.2.0.1.0  production .

Thanks for  your help.


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RE: consistent gets

2003-10-08 Thread Sinardy Xing
yeah rite, i just test u

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Hi,
Consistent gets means the blocks oracle have to visit , it means the real cost of 
the SQL.(consisteng gets + db block gets)
Reduce SGA size has nothing to do with Consistent gets.
TO reduce consistent gets, only Tune the SQL or create proper index etc can help.


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If you want to reduce your consistent gets, you can reduce your sga size 

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Hi,

What does the meaning for this consistent gets.
Some time my statement return more consistent gets in statistics.
How I can reduce this Consistent gets.

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RE: Strange Request

2003-10-07 Thread Sinardy Xing
ora-600 may result your db down or crash

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I want the DB to see and act on an ORA-00600, not just record
one in the alertSID.log

Thanks,
Mike


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did you just want to see it in an alert.log?  or are you working with a 
dump?

joe


Vergara, Michael (TEM) wrote:

>Ok...strange request time.  I want to test a script that I found
>on the DBA Village web site.  It's supposed to capture some
>information whenever there's a DB error.
>
>Does anybody know how to trigger a 'benign' ORA-600 so I can test
>this functionality?
>
>Thanks,
>Mike
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RE: Strange Request

2003-10-07 Thread Sinardy Xing
:)

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did you just want to see it in an alert.log?  or are you working with a 
dump?

joe


Vergara, Michael (TEM) wrote:

>Ok...strange request time.  I want to test a script that I found
>on the DBA Village web site.  It's supposed to capture some
>information whenever there's a DB error.
>
>Does anybody know how to trigger a 'benign' ORA-600 so I can test
>this functionality?
>
>Thanks,
>Mike
>
>
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RE: consistent gets

2003-10-07 Thread Sinardy Xing




If 
you want to reduce your consistent gets, you can reduce your sga size 

 

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  gets
  Hi,
   
  What does the meaning for this consistent 
  gets.
  Some time my statement return more 
  consistent gets in statistics.
  How I can reduce this Consistent 
  gets.
   
  Thanks in advance.
   
   
   



RE: Table not reusing deleted space

2003-10-01 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi Leng,

I have suggestion, "FOR YOU TO TEST ONLY"

*CHECK SIZE**
1. EXPORT target tables with COMPRESS = Y parameter
2. DROP target tables
*CHECK SIZE**
3. CREATE TABLE (target tables)
4. IMPORT target tables
*CHECK SIZE**


Good luck
Sinardy



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Here are the stats if you're interested. I can't run dbms_space on the table because 
it will lock up the application. This table is accessed ALL the time. It grabbed 
another 100M today! Extent management is LOCAL with UNIFORM SIZE of 100M.


24th Sep 2003

OWNE SEGMENT_NAME  TABLESPACE_NAMEKB   NEXTKB 
EXT[MAX]  % Inc
 -    
 --
CCA  CONNECT_TASK[T]   CC_TASK_TABS3,891,200  102,400 
38[2147483645]0
CCA  CONNECT_TASK_CONNECTID[I] CC_TASK_IDXS  102,400  102,400 
1[2147483645] 0
CCA  CONNECT_TASK_CRN[I]   CC_TASK_IDXS  102,400  102,400 
1[2147483645] 0
CCA  PK_CONNECT_TASK[I]CC_TASK_IDXS  102,400  102,400 
1[2147483645] 0


OWNE TABLE_NAME   NUM_ROWS AVG_ROW_LEN BLOCKS EMPTY_BLOCKS  
CHAIN_CNT
 -- -- --- --  
--
CCA  CONNECT_TASK   1855834898 484189 2210 
  1445



2nd Oct 2003

OWNERSEGMENT_NAME  TABLESPACE_NAME
KB   NEXTKB EXT[MAX]
 -  
  
CCA  CONNECT_TASK[T]   CC_TASK_TABS
4,198,400  102,400 41[2147483645]
CCA  CONNECT_TASK_CONNECTID[I] CC_TASK_IDXS  
102,400  102,400 1[2147483645]
CCA  CONNECT_TASK_CRN[I]   CC_TASK_IDXS  
102,400  102,400 1[2147483645]
CCA  PK_CONNECT_TASK[I]CC_TASK_IDXS  
102,400  102,400 1[2147483645]


OWNE TABLE_NAME   NUM_ROWS AVG_ROW_LEN BLOCKS EMPTY_BLOCKS  
CHAIN_CNT
 -- -- --- --  
--
CCA  CONNECT_TASK   1841134958 51269912100 
  1528



--------
 From: "Sinardy Xing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:51:40 +0800
 Subject: RE: Table not reusing deleted space

Hi Kaing,

Have you check the degree of fragmentation?

have you check your extent size?


Sinardy


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RE: Table not reusing deleted space

2003-09-30 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi Kaing,

Have you check the degree of fragmentation?

have you check your extent size?


Sinardy

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Hello everyone,

Env: 8.1.7.4, SunOs 5.8 64 Bit

We seem to hitting bug 1262161. The bug seems to imply that tables with triggers 
behind them do not reuse blocks on the freelist. We have a table that should only use 
1G (num_rows * avg_row_len), but is actually using 4.1G and growing in size!! It is 
subject to high inserts, deletes and updates. But the resultant number of rows is 
around 200K rows. The insert is just a normal insert, no APPEND hint is used. Updates 
do not really expand the rows. 

We've changed PCTUSED from 40 to 70 to no avail. The table does not seem to reuse the 
deleted space. 

In trying to prove this error in our environment I've created 5 test scenarios but was 
never able to reproduce the problem. It only exists on our production database. I'm 
stumped. Has anyone encountered this problem? 

Or can someone explain to me why our production database is not reusing the space 
deleted and placed back on the free list? I should also add that the table in question 
is a master table of a snapshot.

TIA,

Leng.

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RE: two instances on same box (Suse Linux ES 8)

2003-09-22 Thread Sinardy Xing
Title: two instances on same box (Suse Linux ES 8)



Hi 
Helmut,
 
 
when 
you do switch user 
 
su - 
newuser
 
 
use 
the "-" it will run the .profile of that user, I assume your problem is because 
the env variables.
 
Otherwise (or) you can open a new telnet windows to startup the 
other database?
 
btw if 
you only have one owner (DBA group) then only few variables you need to 
change:
 
for 
example:
 
ORACLE_HOME=9.0.1
 
 
--- 
below here are static 
Make 
user you reuse the ORACLE_HOME
LIBRARY_PATH=$ORACLE_HOME/lib 
<- i forgot the variable name
PATH=$PATH:$ORACLE_HOME/bin:.
 
ORACLE_SID=__
 
 
Sinardy
 
 
 

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  two instances on same box (Suse Linux ES 8)
  Hi! 
  We are running 2 Oracle instances on one Suse Linux box (under 
  the same Unix oracle user). 
  We have two oracle homes 9.0.1 
  (/opt/oracle/iasdb) and 9.2.0 
  (/opt/oracle/loga) 
  The first instance starts up fine, but the second one fails. 
  It seems to me that switching the environments fails. 
  How do I switch between environments? ORAENV and dbhome don't 
  work too well. 
  oratab looks fine. 
  Does anybody have experience with multiple instance on Linux 
  (especially Suse). not sure whether Red Hat is similar... 
  This is 9i on Suse Linux Enterprise Server 8. 
  Thanks, Helmut 



RE: minus vs. where not exists, vs. where not in

2003-09-22 Thread Sinardy Xing
well superman is poorer than batman


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Yeah, Superman had Super powers.  Batman just relied on a bunch of gadgets.

Of course my original post was implying the classic "it depends".  There
are some scenario's where a specific approach is faster than the other and
there are some scenario's where it doesn't matter because oracle can
rewrite the query effectively anyway.  What does matter - "If in doubt test
it out".



   
       
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I think Superman is stroger than Batman

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I'm not sure that there is a good answer to that question. The question
sounds like the dilemma: who's stronger, Batman or Superman?
Unfortunately, superheroes do not exist, so we cannot have a real life
comparison. It is exactly the same with not exists vs. minus. Comparisons
make
sense only within a real life application in a real configuration, that is
why both mechanisms are provided. Sort_area_size does influence
performance,
unless memory is slow, system is swapping or something else.
In the world of superheroes, my favorite is Alice and her "fist of death".

On 2003.09.21 19:54, Mark Richard wrote:
>
> I don't have any scientific proof but I imagine the sort_area_size could
be
> different between "not exists" and "minus".  When doing "minus" the
entire
> select string would have to be compared for equality, which could be very
> large depending on your string.
>
> Minus is probably an easier way (at least from a coding perspective) of
> comparing every column in a table, or incorporating complexity in the
> select statement.
>
> Having said that.  Each statement has it's pros and cons and I guess it
> depends on the volume of the various queries, etc.  For example, if the
> have table A with 5 rows and table B with 100 rows executing "select
> a.field from a where not exists (select 1 from b where b.field = a.field)
> will result in 5 quick searches (assuming b.field is indexed) whereas
> "select a.field from a where a.field not in (select b.field from b)" will
> result in a full index read of b, as would "select a.field from a minus
> select b.field from b".  Obviously different queries and different
volumes
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mttaer
in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng 
is
taht frist and lsat ltteer is at the rghit pclae. The rset can be 
a
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RE: How to keep "root" out?

2003-09-02 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi all,

I think as a DBA you should have the root password for the database server.

Will this close the case?


Sinardy

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> Instead of trying to do things in software, which was designed not to
resist
> the "root" user,
> why don't we concentrate on specialized hardware and procedures which
exist
> for that purpose?
> Guns, threats of violence and blackmail are excellent means of keeping the
> system administrator
> out of the database. After all  they're only human and chances are that a

One more solution would be to migrate to Windows. Then you won't have any
root user.

Tanel.


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RE: more questions

2003-09-02 Thread Sinardy Xing
how to startup oracle after machine 
is bootup?
you must configure your /etc/oratab
Ans:
add this line
your_sid:your_oracle_home:AUTO(auto is keyword)


how to shutdown oracle before Unix is shutdown?
Ans:
I don't think that Oracle provide such feature, but you can write OS script 
add to your in your init.d

or simpler way replace your init binary file with your own
for example

# init 6

your new init 

/where is my shutdown script/shutdown oracle.sh
/or perhaps you want to shutdown listener too or other application do 
it here/bla.sh
sync
sync
original_init $1

It seems to me that I cannot multiplex data files. Is that true?

Ans:

Yes Oracle only allow you to multiplex your control files and redolog files but not 
your data files, however
Oracle do recommend you to do RAID 0 + 1 if you have the $$$.


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Hi Greetings,

We are using solaris. I wonder how to startup oracle after machine 
is bootup and how to shutdown oracle before unix is shutdown?
I know how to multiplex control files and redo files. It seems to 
me that I cannot multiplex data files. Is that true?

Thanks!
Jin

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RE: Oracle client and DNS

2003-09-02 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi John,

Have you check your sqlnet.ora parameter?

perhaps you want to try to add 
GLOBAL_DBNAME = hostname
in your init.ora?


Sinardy


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Having problems getting Oracle 8 client working with DNS.

I can ping the server hostname from my Windows 2000 client, but I cannot
tnsping it

Do I need to do anything at the server end. The listener is running on the
server.

John


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RE: one question on backup and restore

2003-09-02 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi Zhu Chao,

Yes, I think Jin is using shared external storage, otherwise if his server A down how 
he going to copy all his files from 
server A to server B.
if this is the case what Jin may do is propose an clustering software.

Otherwise, he must backup his database into media.

Sinardy

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Hi,
It can be done via cluster software like VCS (Veritas Cluster Server) or
Sun Cluster. But one mandetory requrement: you must place your oracle
database(control,redo,data etc) on the shared storage, that is , server A
and Server B can access the same disk array.
If you really do not have shared storage, consider using oracle data
guard.

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> Hi Greetings,
>
> I have such a plan but not sure if it is feasible. Please help!
> I install oracle server on two different machine (say A and B). In
> general, we run on one instance on server A. If we met any problem
> on server A, we copy all data files, control files and redo files
> plus spfile.ora to server B. Can server B startup that
> instance?
>
> Is there any restriction on this plan? or it is totally
> impossible? Would you please advise why?
>
> Thanks alot!
> Jin
> btw, they both are Solaris.
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RE: more questions

2003-09-02 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi Tanel,

I can't remember what is the correct procedure about auto startup Oracle.
I think you are right is located in /var/opt/oracle (my clustering software does it 
for me by comfiguring this oratab)
perhaps Jin can read the manual about startup and shutdown, I remember there is one 
small chapter special for this in DB Administration doc.


I read from Unix administration book long ago, the author said something like this

replace the rm binary to something like this:

cp rm .rm.original
echo ".rm.original -i" > rm

May be is not a good book, I don't know...

Sinardy


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Hi!

> how to startup oracle after machine
> is bootup?
> you must configure your /etc/oratab
> Ans:
> add this line
> your_sid:your_oracle_home:AUTO(auto is keyword)

Y or N are the keywords. I don't remember that auto has been mentioned
anywhere. I didn't find any occurrence it in dbstart either. So where is
this coming from?

And the OP is using Solaris, thus his oratab file is under /var/opt/oracle.

> or simpler way replace your init binary file with your own
> for example

Yeah right, lets just modify kernel binary instead!?
Do you really do this kind of stuff at your work? Really spooky...

Tanel.


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RE: How to keep "root" out?

2003-09-02 Thread Sinardy Xing
er's sqlnet.ora.
Then
> >> everyone has to use a password.
> >>
> >> Tanel.
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: Walter K <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >> Subject: How to keep "root" out?
> >>
> >> Just for grins, I'll ask this question... Is there any way to keep the
Unix
> >> "root" user from logging into the database (i.e. connect internal or /
as
> >> sysdba)? Currently using 8.1.7.4 on Solaris 8 here.
> >>
> >> We have a couple people in our Unix admin group that feel the need to
"help"
> >> by writing their own DB monitoring scripts. Of course, they don't know
what
> >> they're talking about. They do not have formal logins for the database,
but
> >> since they are root users they are connecting via "connect internal".
This is
> >> not only counterproductive but actually a potential security
issue--just
> >> because someone has root doesn't necessarily entitle them to see the
data in
> >> the database. What if it is a payroll database?
> >>
> >> So, I'm curious, is there any way to prevent access via "connect
internal" or
> >> "/ as sysdba"?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance.
> >>
> >> W
> >>
> >
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RE: How to keep "root" out?

2003-09-02 Thread Sinardy Xing
ist ORACLE-L <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 6:34 PM
> >> Subject: How to keep "root" out?
> >>
> >> Just for grins, I'll ask this question... Is there any way to keep the
Unix
> >> "root" user from logging into the database (i.e. connect internal or /
as
> >> sysdba)? Currently using 8.1.7.4 on Solaris 8 here.
> >>
> >> We have a couple people in our Unix admin group that feel the need to
"help"
> >> by writing their own DB monitoring scripts. Of course, they don't know
what
> >> they're talking about. They do not have formal logins for the database,
but
> >> since they are root users they are connecting via "connect internal".
This is
> >> not only counterproductive but actually a potential security
issue--just
> >> because someone has root doesn't necessarily entitle them to see the
data in
> >> the database. What if it is a payroll database?
> >>
> >> So, I'm curious, is there any way to prevent access via "connect
internal" or
> >> "/ as sysdba"?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance.
> >>
> >> W
> >>
> >
>
>
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RE: one question on backup and restore

2003-09-02 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi Tanel,

Very good post,

because we are using clustering then I think Jin can have easier life with one, 
everything is like semi automatic.


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Hi!

You can do what you wanted without *any* clustering storage.
An Oracle database can copied over and opened on another server, providing
that the server has same architecture (e.g. 32bit i386) and the Oracle
version used is supported on the operating system you run. For example,  it
is possible to transport a 8.1.7.0.0 database from PentiumIII running WinNT
4.0 to 8.1.7.0.0 running on Pentium4 Xeon running Win2000. Or from Sparc2
SunOS 2.6 to Sparc3 Solaris8.

What you have to worry about is, how to you get your clients to connect to
server B after A is down? You can either transfer the IP address (manually
or using cluster software) or create your tnsnames.ora files such that
clients connect to server B if they can't access server A.

Also, it might be problematic to copy your database over if server A has
hopelessly crashed. If you want more failure-proof system, look for standby
databases (data guard in 9i)

Tanel.

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> Hi Zhu Chao,
>
> Yes, I think Jin is using shared external storage, otherwise if his server
A down how he going to copy all his files from
> server A to server B.
> if this is the case what Jin may do is propose an clustering software.
>
> Otherwise, he must backup his database into media.
>
> Sinardy
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>
> Hi,
> It can be done via cluster software like VCS (Veritas Cluster Server)
or
> Sun Cluster. But one mandetory requrement: you must place your oracle
> database(control,redo,data etc) on the shared storage, that is , server A
> and Server B can access the same disk array.
> If you really do not have shared storage, consider using oracle data
> guard.
>
> Regards
> zhu chao
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> > Hi Greetings,
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> > I have such a plan but not sure if it is feasible. Please help!
> > I install oracle server on two different machine (say A and B). In
> > general, we run on one instance on server A. If we met any problem
> > on server A, we copy all data files, control files and redo files
> > plus spfile.ora to server B. Can server B startup that
> > instance?
> >
> > Is there any restriction on this plan? or it is totally
> > impossible? Would you please advise why?
> >
> > Thanks alot!
> > Jin
> > btw, they both are Solaris.
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RE: How to keep "root" out?

2003-09-01 Thread Sinardy Xing
I have an idea

1. Use let say My_Tursted_SA schema, write a trigger that will disconnect new login as 
SYS or SYSTEM 
2. If you want to use sys or system, you login as My_Trusted_SA disable the trigger.

What do you think?


Sinardy

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Richard Ji
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A strange loop eh?  You must have read GEB. :)


-Original Message-
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Cc: 
Subject:Re: How to keep "root" out?
A...

But if you encrypt it, where do you keep the key?  How do you retrieve it
for use?  Don¹t forget to follow the problem to the next step...

...and when you do, you realize that if nobody can be trusted, then the
problem of security becomes an Escher print, or a Mobius strip, or the
infinity symbol, or the exact value of ³pi²...



on 8/29/03 9:29 AM, Richard Ji at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> We assume the SA don't know much about Oracle.  But if some one is
> particularly interested in
> getting into the database, he might be on this list as well learning all our
> defense mechanisms. :)
> Or doesn't have to be subscribed to it since this list is mirrored other
> places and google is his friend.
> I think the bottom line is, if you absolutely don't want the data to be seen,
> encrypt it.
>  
> My 2 cents.
>  
> Richard Ji
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercadante, Thomas F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 10:31 AM
>> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>> Subject: RE: How to keep "root" out?
>> 
> Walt,
>  
> Something that has not been suggested - migrate your database to 9.2.  Connect
> as internal goes away.
>  
> Other than that, I think the best suggestion you got was a conversation, and
> granting access to the v$ tables thru a specific account for that person.
> 
> And then put a long trigger in place tracking all connections to the database.
> Keep track of all SYS connections.  At least you know when things happen.  And
> periodically review the init.ora file for the database to make sure that
> nobody changes anything.
>  
> Good Luck!
>  
> Tom Mercadante 
> Oracle Certified Professional
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> Subject: Re: How to keep "root" out?
>> 
>> 
>> But someone determined to get in the database can simply edit sqlnet.ora
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "Tanel Poder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>>  Please respond to ORACLE-L
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>> To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
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>> Subject:Re: How to keep "root" out?
>> 
>> 
>> Hi! 
>>   
>> Put sqlnet.authentication_services = none in your server's sqlnet.ora. Then
>> everyone has to use a password.
>>   
>> Tanel. 
>>   
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Walter K <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 6:34 PM
>> Subject: How to keep "root" out?
>> 
>> Just for grins, I'll ask this question... Is there any way to keep the Unix
>> "root" user from logging into the database (i.e. connect internal or / as
>> sysdba)? Currently using 8.1.7.4 on Solaris 8 here.
>>   
>> We have a couple people in our Unix admin group that feel the need to "help"
>> by writing their own DB monitoring scripts. Of course, they don't know what
>> they're talking about. They do not have formal logins for the database, but
>> since they are root users they are connecting via "connect internal". This is
>> not only counterproductive but actually a potential security issue--just
>> because someone has root doesn't necessarily entitle them to see the data in
>> the database. What if it is a payroll database?
>>   
>> So, I'm curious, is there any way to prevent access via "connect internal" or
>> "/ as sysdba"? 
>>   
>> Thanks in advance.
>>   
>> W 
>> 
> 



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RE: Question about Constraint

2003-08-29 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi,

Unique(companynumber, type)

or 

you combine 2 columns together

CompanyNumber_Type (this can become primary key, I don't think you need the id column, 
pseudo column rownum is the same)
You have lesser indexing

123_1
123_2



Sinardy



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Sounds like 'Companynumber' and 'Type' should be either a compound Primary
Key, or a unique index. Which begs the question of what 'Id' is doing -
perhaps you don't need it.

peter


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Hallo,

I would like to gets ome help on this:

I have this table

IdCompanynumber First Name  LastNameType

1 123   Jim Andersson   1
2 234   Tom Perkins   2
3 565   Henry   Ford1


I would like to have a constraint so when I try to add and the same
companynumber that already exists(for instance 234)
I am not allowed to do this if the filed Type has the value 1.
So if I add a companynumber which already exists and the Type is 2, then I
should be allowed to add this companynumber.

Maybe this is simple but woul dreally appreciate some help onhow to write
this.

Roland




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RE: get sid (session id) and serial#?

2003-08-29 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi Chuan,

can v$session help you

this view has information like machine, osuser, username, sid, program, and others

SQL> desc v$session

SQL> select columns,... from v$session where username = 'SCOTT' and machine = 
'YOUR_HOSTNAME'

if you do telnet you will get 2 rows (if scoot is only use by you)

is not 

Sinardy

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DABs,

  Is there any way in my connection to get the sid and serial# for my own
connection?

Suppose I connect to Oracle db by >sqlplus scott/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
In this connection,

SQL>

What shoud I input to get this sid and serial#?

TIA

Chuan
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RE: OT: Hey Jared!! -90 degree OT Joke

2003-08-29 Thread Sinardy Xing



Yes, 
left brain connect to the right part of your body
right 
brain connect to the left part of your body
 
When 
you do DB design your using more of your right brain.
When 
you have SQL syntax error you use your left brain 
more. 

  -Original Message-From: A Joshi 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 29 August 2003 
  01:30To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: OT: Hey Jared!! -90 degree OT Joke
  I vaguely remember hearing : 
   
  * right handed people use left side of brain
  * that left handed people use right side of brain
  Correct???
   
  I think right or left just use it. I mean use something. 
  "Orr, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Hmmm... 
So you're saying that women aren't in their right mind? Takingit to the 
off topic list.-Original Message-Sent: Thursday, August 
28, 2003 2:59 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LHi,This is my own theory, you can't find this 
information from OracleDocument.Well... talking about women and 
men.I believe most women use their left brain more than right brain and 
mostmen use their right brain more than left brain.Function of 
left brain - remember things, - small thing but detail (this is the 
reason why women take 1/2a day to buy a pair of shoe, and not that easy 
fall in love)- person names- history - words (perhaps this is 
the reason why women like to readnovels)Function of right 
brain- response to things (quick decision maker) - this is the 
reasonwh! y so many 2 minute men in the world- everything in general 
(see thing in big picture)- person faces- math, 1 + 3 / 7 ^ 53 = 
X- picturesWell Friends train both side of your brain, and for 
male DBA use yourleft brain when talk to women, then she is 
yours.RF tell me if I am wrongPS: Just kidding., 
going to see Mars tonight I miss my home town. 
:)Sinardy-Original Message-Sent: 
28 August 2003 06:25To: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LWomen are also particularily good at remembering small 
nasty things frompast which you've already forgotten long time ago. 
Especially duringfights...:)Tanel.- Original 
Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 12:59 
AM> Not being sexist in any way, but it's my experience that 
Women are > much better "generalists" ! than men, but that men are 
much better > specialists. Thats why I think women do better in 
school early on, but> once we men get into the University level 
and pick our speciality, we > kick butt.>> My soon to 
be ex-wife was frequently much better remembering overallthings> 
than I was>> RF>>> -Original 
Message-> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L> Sent: 
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have been written by a man :)>> (yes, sexist, I 
know)>>> --- Tanel Poder 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> > I've seen only one female in my 
life who would be capable of writing> > such virus. But that 
is not the issue (no offence, really). Women > > just 
don't> > waste their time on stuff like this.> >> 
> Tanel.> > - Original Message -> > To: 
"Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > 
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:54 AM> >> >> 
> > "Guy"? You've eliminated 50% of all possible suspects...> 
> >> > >> > >> > > on 8/26/03 
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>> > > > I doubt they will ever find the real guy behind 
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the bureau to find the> > person> > > >> who 
uploaded the virus to a Usenet group it hosts. > > > >> 
informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=13800091> > 
> >>> > > >>> > > >>> 
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RE: OT: Hey Jared!! -90 degree OT Joke

2003-08-29 Thread Sinardy Xing



Why 
don't you get an upgrade to Brain 2003, they have promotion this 
week free goodie bags for first 30 patients.

  -Original Message-From: A Joshi 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 29 August 2003 
  06:35To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: OT: Hey Jared!! -90 degree OT Joke
   
   
  sorry -- I do not read novels, do not respond visually to things, do not 
  do math, do not rememberfaces, do not see details AND do not 
  see the big picture
  i do eat and sleep a lot.
  so either I am more lowly evolved or i need a refund or 
  brain transform from those with more of it (someone out there has ma 
  brain) or i need to sue the doctor who said i have brains 
  even showed me a ugly b/w pic of it. Rachel 
  Carmichael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  sorry 
-- I read novels, respond visually to things, do math, rememberfaces but 
not names, see details AND the big pictureso either I am more highly 
evolved and use both sides of my brain (nothardly) or the theory needs 
some modification--- Sinardy Xing 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> Hi,> > This is my 
own theory, you can't find this information from Oracle> 
Document.> > Well... talking about women and men.> I 
believe most women use their left brain more than right brain> and 
most men use their right brain more than left brain.> > 
Function of left brain > - remember things, > - small thing 
but detail (this is the reason why women take 1/2 a> day to buy a 
pair of shoe, and not that easy fall in love)> - person names> 
- history > - words ! (perhaps this is the reason why women like to 
read novels)> > Function of right brain> - response to 
things (quick decision maker) - this is the reason why> so many 2 
minute men in the world> - everything in general (see thing in big 
picture)> - person faces> - math, 1 + 3 / 7 ^ 53 = X> - 
pictures> > Well Friends train both side of your brain, and 
for male DBA use your> left brain when talk to women, then she is 
yours.> > RF tell me if I am wrong> > 
> PS: Just kidding., going to see Mars tonight I miss my home 
town.> :)> > > Sinardy> > > 
> > -Original Message-> Sent: 28 August 2003 
06:25> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L> > 
> Women are also particularily good at remembering small nasty 
things> from> past which you've already forgotten long! time 
ago. Especially during> fights...> :)> > 
Tanel.> > - Original Message - > To: "Multiple 
recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Sent: Thursday, 
August 28, 2003 12:59 AM> > > > Not being sexist in 
any way, but it's my experience that Women are> much> > 
better "generalists" than men, but that men are much better> 
specialists.> > Thats why I think women do better in school early 
on, but once we> men get> > into the University level and 
pick our speciality, we kick butt.> >> > My soon to be 
ex-wife was frequently much better remembering> overall> 
things> > than I was> >> > RF> 
>> >> > -Original Message-> > To: 
Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L> > Sent: 8/27/2003 6:44 
AM> >> > c'mon.! .. any virus named "SoBig" has to have 
been written by a man> :)> >> > (yes, sexist, I 
know)> >> >> > --- Tanel Poder 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> > > I've seen only one female 
in my life who would be capable of> writing> > > 
such> > > virus. But that is not the issue (no offence, 
really). Women just> > > don't> > > waste their 
time on stuff like this.> > >> > > Tanel.> 
> > - Original Message - > > > To: "Multiple 
recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > Sent: 
Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:54 AM> > >> > 
>> > > > "Guy"? You've eliminated 50% of all possible 
suspects...> > > >> > > >> > > 
>> > > > on 8/26/03 1:44 PM, Tanel Poder at 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > >> > 
> > > I doubt they will ever find the real guy behind this.> 
> > > >> > > > > Tanel.> > > 
> >> > > > > - Original Message -> 
> > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L"> 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, 

RE: V$cache

2003-08-28 Thread Sinardy Xing
You don't have enough privilages

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Hello list, I am using Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 9.2.0.1.0 on
windows.

I get 'object does not exist' error when I try to query  the V$cache.

The docs say that this is an Oracle9i Real Application Clusters view.

But so is V$BH and I am able to query that when connected as sys .
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RE: Need help with an error ORA-12640

2003-08-28 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi Peter,

I think you have to make sure that non - admin user have proper access right to 
sqlnet.ora(what is the last modified time)
tnsnames.ora s.a.b.
names.oras.a.b. 
*.oras.a.b.

And of course make sure your listener is started, then check all those *.ora files -IP 
address, hostname, port
(if you are using TCP)

then try use tnsping [service_name] to hit the listener.

Perhaps you can do a little bit RE to read the patch what kind of changes oracle made 
to your system,
I am not sure about this one, but I think you install that patch with administrator 
account.

You said you install patch then you cannot connect, if this is not Oracle Names Server 
then I think you can connect from client station because their parameter files are the 
working version.

If this is Oracle Names Server, you client will get the latest changes too most likely 
cannot connect too.
If is not ONS then you can reference your client machine setting.


hope this can help you, good luck

Sinardy



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> Guru:
> 
> I need help with an error ORA-12640.
> 
> I have a Oracle 8.1.7 database with 8.1.7.4 patch running on Windows 2000.
> The sqlnet.authentication_services=(NTS) parameter is enabled and we do
> not want to change the sqlnet.authentication_services=(NONE).
> 
> The custom SQL application is launched by a Domain User on the Oracle
> Server machine.  If the Domain user has local administrative privileges,
> it works with no error.  If the Domain user does not have local
> adminstrative privileges, it fails with the above error.
> 
> I am at a lost to explain this.   Does anyone has any idea?
> 
> Thank you in advance.
> 
> Pete
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RE: OT: Hey Jared!! -90 degree OT Joke

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RE: Hey Jared

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ng along the
> >lines of "if
> > > > > you think developers are expensive, go price some lawyers", but it
> >certainly
> > > > > bounced off him.  At the time, I took it as just another colorful
> >comment
> > > > > from a colorful guy.  But he was dead serious, along with his
> >CIO/CFO
> > > > > brethren, and the passing of Y2K and the dot-com bubble pop has
> >expedited
> > > > > his prediction...
> > > >
> > > > I always wondered where does this prejudice against us, computer
geeks
> >(my
> > > > apologies to anyone offended by that expression, but I'm a hard core
> >computer
> > > > geek) comes from? I must say that this prejudice is very hard to
> >understand.
> > > > IT people are very well educated, very hard working, regularly
willing
> >to
> > > > work long hours and sacrifice their weekends for the benefit of the
> >company.
> > > > I found that very same attitude against the "darned geeks" at
several
> > > > executives and managers of several companies I worked for. Even if
> >lawyers
> > > > are much more expensive the programmers, system and database
> >administrators,
> > > > application designers, they are still very willing to make the
switch.
> > > > I'm not quite sure why are we so hated? Why would anyone want to
kill
> > > > a nice and seet little wabbit?
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RE: Nature of Oracle-l has changed

2003-08-25 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi,

This group is kind of boring for me because I don't have chance to answer questions, 
those gurus are so fast, they reply almost everything.

they told you "wasn't so smart" or wasn't so... "smart" :)


Sinardy

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Jared -

a line caught my attention...

> 
> When in school, I was told I would be more popular if I 
> "wasn't so smart".  I was even told that once as an adult.
> 


School?! If someone were to ask me if I had any contemporary knowledge of
such damagement behaviour, all I could say would be 'You may think that, but
I couldn't possibly comment'.



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RE: Tough Oracle DBA experience

2003-08-25 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi,

1. Hide sqlplus username/[EMAIL PROTECTED] from ps -ef |grep sqlplus (using unix 
scripting)
2. All about backup and recovery (Oracle Doc)
3. All about performance tunning (how to turn your Oracle's turbo on)
4. Pay sux, solution: working in progress.
5. If you have metalink access, you can find real problems there + solution.

Will you give me one copy of your ebook? 

Sinardy


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Dear All,

I am collecting (Just writing in a book ) of all tough problems , great
issues handled with Oracle RDBMS as a DBA.

Request you kindly send us the Top 5 Problems , Difficult scenarios(the most
tough problems , with solution u did.)you faced so far in your DBA life.

Hope to see many responses to this , atleast by Monday.
Thanks a lot.

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RE: Software Owner for Oracle8 and Oracle9

2003-08-25 Thread Sinardy Xing



Hi,
 
My 
answer
 
Benefit using different users.
1. If 
the applications of thoese two databases should not access each other then 
you have better security, the owner of the instances processes are 
different.
2. If 
DBAs that manage those databases are different person than they can change 
the password without require another DBA to be 
arround.
3. 
There must be reasons why they propose this setting, perhaps you want to share 
why they decide such setting.
 
 
Benefit using same user.
1. If 
the Oracle 8 require upgrade you don't have to install Oracle 9 
again.
2. A 
little bit easy to manage.
3. 
According to Unix book (I don't remember the title of the book) it said "The 
lesser the users the more secure your system" (I agree with this 
line)
 
 
Just 
my opinion...
 
Sinardy
 
 

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  Hi all,
  We have currently a debate ongoing on the Unix side about the issue of 
  having 1 Oracle software owner for both Oracle 8 and 9 versus having a new 
  software owner for 9.
  What comments you have, w hat might be advantages and disadvantages using 
  one or two users...
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RE: Online Document for Windows XP Home edition Severity 3

2003-08-25 Thread Sinardy Xing
Title: Message



Hi,
 
Thanks 
this work.
 
 
Sinardy

  -Original Message-From: Mercadante, Thomas F 
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3
  
  Sinardy,
   
  I've installed the Oracle docs simply by 
  copying all the directories from the CD to my hard drive - no need to perform 
  an installation.
   
  Hope this 
  helps.
   
  Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional 
  
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Online Document for Windows XP Home edition Severity 3
Try copying the contents of the CD to a directory on your hard 
drive.  Search for all instances of symcjit.dll in that directory and 
below and rename them to symcjit.dll.old.  Then run setup from the 
directory on your hard drive.
 
Gudmundur

  
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  for Windows XP Home edition Severity 3
  Hi 
  all,
   
  I have new 
  notebook, I want to install Oracle Doc 8.1.7, but Oracle fail to run 
  when I click Install/Deinstall button
   
  Some said XP 
  home edition cannot install Oracle, is this because Sun demand Ms 
  to remove the JVM? Can someone help me 
  please..
   
  Thanks
   
  Sinardy


RE: Online Document for Windows XP Home edition Severity 3

2003-08-25 Thread Sinardy Xing
Title: Message



Hi 
all,
 
Thanks 
for your input...
 
I am 
using 
 
    Oracle 8i
    On-Line Generic Documentation 
CD-ROM
 
    Part #: A87860-01
 
The 
solution: I just copy all the d:\doc to my hd (quite huge) then open the 
index.htm
 
This 
is huge man, I only have 30 gig storage
 
 
Sinardy
 
 

   
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  3
  
  If you have reached a 
  point where you could press the Install/DeInstall 
  button, it means that you don’t have any problem with your Java 
  installation/settings. Try to troubleshoot in other 
  areas.
  Also, update the 
  Forum with your success story once you are done.
   
  ~Venu
   
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  XP Home edition Severity 3
   
  
  Try 
  copying the contents of the CD to a directory on your hard drive.  Search 
  for all instances of symcjit.dll in that directory and below and rename them 
  to symcjit.dll.old.  Then run setup from the directory on your hard 
  drive.
  
   
  
  Gudmundur
  
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ORACLE-LSubject: Online 
Document for Windows XP Home edition Severity 3

Hi 
all,

 

I have new notebook, I want to 
install Oracle Doc 8.1.7, but Oracle fail to run when I 
click Install/Deinstall button

 

Some said XP home edition cannot 
install Oracle, is this because Sun demand Ms to remove the JVM? 
Can someone help me please..

 

Thanks

 

Sinardy
  


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Online Document for Windows XP Home edition Severity 3

2003-08-21 Thread Sinardy Xing



Hi 
all,
 
I have new notebook, 
I want to install Oracle Doc 8.1.7, but Oracle fail to run when I 
click Install/Deinstall button
 
Some said XP home 
edition cannot install Oracle, is this because Sun demand Ms 
to remove the JVM? Can someone help me 
please..
 
Thanks
 
Sinardy


RE: Canada and US friends (YOUR WISH IS COME TRUE)

2003-08-18 Thread Sinardy Xing





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Please, please send us some candles and torchlights. If you
can, please send in some John Smith Extra Smooth and Bailey's
Irish Cream. When I come to think of it, you can skip candles
and lights and start sending in the good stuff.

On 2003.08.18 00:44, Sinardy Xing wrote:
> Hi Canada and US friends,
> 
> Can your systems survive the blackout disaster?
> 
> Do you need recovery? Everything is ok out there?
> 
> 
> Sinardy
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RE:

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RE: HELP

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RE: Installation problems (8.1.7 on AIX 5.2)

2003-08-18 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi Zhou,

This most likely becoz your OS is incomplete
you must install FULL DISTRIBUTION VERSION

Upgrade your OS


Sinardy


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I am trying to install Oracle 8i release 3 (8.1.7.0.0 - as this is the
minimum version of Oracle that our products support) onto an IBM Server
running AIX 5L.

I have followed the instructions in the Oracle installation guide and have
proceeded to install the 'typical' installation. Everything was going well
in the installation until it got to about 54% complete where it has halted
with the following error:

"Error in invoking target install of makefile
/export/home/oracle/8.1.7/plsql/lib/ins_plsql.mk"

It then gives me the option to click on ignore, cancel or retry.

When I try ignore it repeats similar messages referring to other .mk files.

What could be the problem?

regards
Tapiwa

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Canada and US friends

2003-08-17 Thread Sinardy Xing



Hi Canada and US 
friends,
 
Can your systems 
survive the blackout disaster?
 
Do you need 
recovery? Everything is ok out there?
 
 
Sinardy


RE: How to make SPFILE in sync with INIT.ORA ?

2003-07-14 Thread Sinardy Xing
USE shortcut like soft link for unix

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Guys,

i have a 9iR2/win2k test instance.
i just renamed CONTROL01.CTL once and tried to start the instance.

SQL>startup
But it gave a ORA-00205 error.

so i removed CONTROL01.CTL  from INIT.ORA file and started the instance
SQL>startup pfile='d:\oracle\admin\pe92\pfile\init.ora'
Now it worked fine.

BUT:
SQL>startup
This is not possible because the SPFILE still has CONTROL01.CTL in it.

How do i make my SPFILE in sync with the INIT.ORA ? 

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SQL need help

2003-07-03 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi,


I have two tables

1. ALL_CUSTOMER
   CustNo: 1 to 100
   OtherDetail: bla bla bla

2. ORDER
CustNo
TotalOrder
DateOrder


I want to display like this



CustomerNo 1Total Order For This month = 101

or

CustomerNo 1 Total Order For This month = 0

My SQL statement is like this


SELECT a.custno, sum(b.total_order)
from all_customer a, order b
where b.custno (+) = a.custno
and to_char(dateorder, 'month') = 'JUNE'  (PROBLEM is HERE)
group by a.custno



When I run this statement for those customer that never order anything, my statement 
return No row returns

How to get something like this

 CustomerNo 1 Total Order For This month = 0



I tried this 

nvl(to_char(dateorder, 'month'), 'JUNE') = 'JUNE'   


Thanks

Sinardy




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RE: Update and Join

2003-06-30 Thread Sinardy Xing



Hi Castro,
 
Can you set your font size 
bigger? You are not lawyer right?
 
may be this can help 
you
 
UPDATE table SET column = 
something_new
WHERE primary_key_or_just_key in (select foreign_or_primary_key 
as usual) 
AND other_key in 
(other select foreign_or_primary_key 
as usual); 
 
Sinardy

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  Update and Join
  
  I am trying to make and update that have a 
Join.
   
  UPDATE ITEMLOC   INNER JOIN 
  ITEMMAST ON ITEMLOC.ITEM = ITEMMAST.ITEM
   
  SET  ITEMLOC.PREFER_BIN='PATEN-A' 
   
  WHERE (ITEMMAST.INVEN_MAJCL = 'A' AND 
  ITEMLOC.PREFER_BIN='FICTICI')
   
  But I don't have the right sintaxis, did some one knows how to do this or 
  if is posible do a join in a update statement?
  Thanks!!!


RE: service name

2003-06-29 Thread Sinardy Xing
connect descriptor is more like it, since you may load balance the listener.
what is the different any way with destination address? is this an exam question or 
what?



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Hello list
does a service name best represent a connect descriptor or a
destination address ?

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Oracle RDBMS for Win XP

2003-06-17 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi all,

Do you install Oracle RDBMS (maybe personal edition) with Win XP?

Will that work?


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RE: Anyone using EMC Clarion Cx400 in a RAC environment?

2003-06-17 Thread Sinardy Xing



Hi,
 
One 
incident (first year or usage) the fiber card driver crash and zombie processes 
occur. IO hang, database down.
DB 
cannot fail over to standby server, primary server cannot shutdown, shutdown 
abort can't help, physically power off server is require.
 
 
I 
don't think is the EMC problem but the fiber card.
 
Sinardy
 
 

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  Anyone using EMC Clarion Cx400 in a RAC environment?
  Looking at purchasing an EMC Clarion Cx400 for our 2 Sun Fire 
  280R  Solaris 9 machines.
   
  Wondering if anyone is currently using this Storage system and how it 
  performs. Any outstanding issues/concerns we should know about. Did  your 
  system admin attend a class on taking care of this storage solution? We will 
  be running Veritas Database Edition for Oracle 9i R2  RAC.
   
  I am gonna attend the Oracle RAC class offered by Oracle 
  and the system administrator will attend the Veritas class.
   
  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
   
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RE: How to stop script

2003-06-17 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi Chen,

My solution will be about the same with previous DBA guru

I assume u r using Window (if is unix you just need to change a little bit here and 
there)

I write this script for you.

+save as imp.sql++
SET HEAD OFF
SET FEEBACK OFF
SET PAUSE OFF
SET VERIFY OFF
SET LINESIZE 250

SPOOL 'C:\temp\~dynamic_imp.bat'
SELECT 'imp username/password@' || name || ' full=y file=bla bla other parameter=bla 
bla bla log=mypath\log'
from v$database
where name = 'TEST';

SPOOL OFF

-- host chmod u+x C:\temp\~dynamic_imp.bat  (if you using unix this will prevent you 
from bug cause by your umask)
-- host C:\temp\~dynamic_imp.bat-- uncomment this if you ready to do the 
import

-- host del C:\temp\~dynamic_imp.bat-- uncomment this if your 
C:\temp\~dynamic_imp.bat is look ok



++=

+save as imp.bat***

sqlplus -s someone_can_do_select_v$database/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

+++


You can add alot of fancy stuffs but the concept is about like that


Sinardy


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I have a script and can be run on commandline like: 
 
> sqlplus /@TEST @import.sql 
 
 
However, I want to check database name at the beginning of import.sql. I knew 
"select name from v$database" can obtain database name. But how can I stop the 
script if I found it is not TEST database? In import.sql, it is like: 
 
drop user A cascade;
create user A ; 
host imp A/[EMAIL PROTECTED] file=a.dmp full=yes; 
// some PL/SQL ...
 
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RE: error configuration database oracle 9.2.0 on Redhat

2003-03-19 Thread Sinardy Xing



Hi Pomin,
 
This is syntax error, why don't 
you check your create database syntax including init.ora file and system 
environment variable.
 
Just my 
speculation.
 
Sinardy
 
 

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  hi all,I need your help, I have a problem while configuration 
  database progress.while progress until 46% I got a error message like this 
  :"ORA-12705: invalid or unknown NLS parameter value specified"after 
  that I can continue the configuration.could anybody help me?Thank 
  you Regards, pomin 


RE: Inband and Outband Net8 question

2003-03-18 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi,

Or may be because IBB is in the queue, that why it seems like not working.

Just my speculation

Sinardy


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Inband breaks are (were) not supported by all protocols and not all 
implementations of the same protocol on each platform (especially in the 
early days of SQL*Net).  It was clear to the developers that OBB was the most 
optimal way of implementing break handling but not every platform did support 
it.

So you will use IBB some on weird platforms that don't support OBB break.

Anjo.


On Tuesday 18 March 2003 07:48, Sinardy Xing wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have question about "Inband break", please help me understand this
>
> Oracle said:
>
>  There are 2 types of breaks:
> - Inband breaks: are transmitted as part of regular data traffic using the
> normal protocol read and write functions. These breaks are symply queued. -
> Outband breaks: are faster as it is send during urgent data messages. These
> messages cause signals and take a lot of load of the server.
>
> These are my questions:
>
> What is the purpose of Inband break?
> when we use it during our day to day activities?
> is this break trigger automatically (something like "end" of some
> activity)?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sinardy

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Inband and Outband Net8 question

2003-03-17 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi all,

I have question about "Inband break", please help me understand this

Oracle said:

 There are 2 types of breaks: 
- Inband breaks: are transmitted as part of regular data traffic using the normal 
protocol read and write functions. These breaks are symply queued. 
- Outband breaks: are faster as it is send during urgent data messages. These messages 
cause signals and take a lot of load of the server. 

These are my questions:

What is the purpose of Inband break? 
when we use it during our day to day activities? 
is this break trigger automatically (something like "end" of some activity)?


Thanks,

Sinardy
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RE: It takes too long to shutdown database

2003-02-25 Thread Sinardy Xing
Title: It takes too long to shutdown database



Hi 
David,
 
These 
are what I think
 
first, 
you are not using shutdown immediate (Oracle waiting user to close 
the session) - unlikely for this case.
or
It has 
been so long you never shutdown your database, Oracle doing housekeeping, your 
rollback segment, update your data files, things like 
that
or
you 
are using archive log mode with 8.1.6, and legend said bug cause the 
shutdown took hours (oracle code performing endless loop I quest), I 
encounter this problem then I did :
    startup force follow with shutdown immediate  
(hmm... I think, I am a lousy dba, he he he...)
the problem never occur again, and my database 
life happily ever after.
 
Sinardy
 

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  takes too long to shutdown database
  I try to bounce database by shutting it down and starting it 
  back up but it just hang in there for almost 45 minutes trying to shut 
  down.  It is running on Solaris8, I can press Ctrl+C to interrupt it or 
  issue a kill command to kill it but I hesitate to do so.  Do you have any 
  advices and why it takes too long to shutdown database?  It usually only 
  takes me about 3 minutes to bounce database.
  Thanks, David 



Unix variable question

2003-02-25 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi all,

Can someone help me understand this...

ROOT # TEST=${2:-.}
ROOT # echo $TEST
ROOT #.

what is 2:-.


another similar code

ROOT # TEST=${1:-0}
ROOT # echo $TEST
ROOT # 0



they looks like emoticon for me

Thank you

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RE: installation / recovery question

2003-02-24 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi,

***Suggestions***

I think your consent is more toward OS backup,

>From the DB point of view (assume your databases are created and populated)
- Do cold backup (Oracle redundancy set + all parameter files (db and network) + 
password file + user docs + scripts + 
  everything)
- backup the export dump file (compress = n full=y) 

then reinstall Oracle binary files, this is quite fast, right?



Sinardy

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Hi all,
I have a test installation of Oracle 817 and 902 on my PC - installed
completly on a device other than system device.
Now my computer is getting  buggy (well it's Win2k on it) so the sysadmin
want's to reinstall the system device.
Is there any way to save the registry entries for Oracle and recover them
when the new installtion on system device is done?
Can I export the entries in a .reg file and merge that into my new registry
when sysadmin is done? Or do I have to reinstall Oracle software and how to
I preserve my databases? 
Any suggestions/hints/warnings are welcome.

Regards,
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Alert Log reporting question

2003-02-24 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi all,

I am writing a script that can "grep "ORA-" from alert log.

I think it will be good if I can grep the time of the error occur, can you please help 
me?

If you are lazy to type please introduce me any related unix function, I will do man 
"the function" myself.


Thanks 

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RE: Case of the Missing Rows

2003-01-27 Thread Sinardy Xing
Title: Case of the Missing Rows



I 
think so too, perhpas you want to include the bad record to capture those 
bad records
make 
the nesassary changes then load that bad file
repeat 
until all loaded into your db

  -Original Message-From: Tim Gorman 
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  Missing Rows
  My guess is that SQL*Loader didn't really load 
  88,640 rows, but rejected or discarded about 1400 of them?
   
  
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 

Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 4:53 
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Subject: Case of the Missing Rows

I have a recurring, repeatable problem I was 
wondering about its cause. 
Oracle 9.2.0.1 on W2K Professional (SP2) Dell 
Optiplex workstation Pentium 4 
Step 1 - I do an SQLLDR process that loads 88640 
rows to a table Step 2 - SQL*Plus session 
- SELEC COUNT(*) from the table returns 88640 rows Step 3 - Do an EXP on the table (to allow fall back to 
this point) - only exports 87257 rows Step 4 - SQL*Plus session again - SELEC COUNT(*) from the table 
returns 87257 rows 
No one else has access to the database.  
There are no unusual entries in the alert log. There is nothing I have found in the UDUMP or BDUMP directories that 
would help. 
Has anyone else experienced this?? 
Thanks 
Rick Weiss 



RE: [Q] create seperate DBA account on 8.1.7 but does NOT work?

2003-01-27 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi,

shared memory realm does not exist

This must be your /etc/system semaphores setting incomplete.

Your oracle is not there yet

No such file or directory

This must be your environment not set properly
your 
$ORACLE_HOME
library

may be also your system administrator don't like you.



Sinardy

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we plan to upgrade ORACLE 8.1.7 to 9.2 on SUN Solaris server.  I plan to
upgade to 9.2 use "oracle" account and keep 8.1.7 on "ora817" account.  I 
create user "ora817" and assign it to "dba" group.  I also setup ORACLE 
environment similiar to "oracle" account.  I tried to startup
"sqlplus" but failed.



%setenv ORACLE_SID db00
%sqlplus

SQL*Plus: Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production on Mon Jan 27 10:49:41 2003

(c) Copyright 2000 Oracle Corporation.  All rights reserved.

Enter user-name: user1
Enter password:
ERROR:
ORA-01034: ORACLE not available
ORA-27101: shared memory realm does not exist
SVR4 Error: 2: No such file or directory



Does anyone know why?


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RE:

2003-01-16 Thread Sinardy Xing
how about, database link 

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replication

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List,

I have to move data on a regular basis between two instances of  8.1.7 on
two different UNIX servers.  The schema is exactly the same.  There are 543
tables to be "refreshed".  It is only the "new data" on one of the servers
to move to the other.  What is the best and easiest way to do this?

thanks,

David Ehresmann  
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RE: one datafile lost.

2003-01-16 Thread Sinardy Xing



Hi Big 
Planet,
 
They 
db files are not consistence you can apply the changes with archived redo 
log since.
 
How 
you recover your database is depend on how you backup your 
database.
 
For 
example you can use old "redundancy set" + latest exported dump 
file
 
Sinardy
 

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  one datafile lost.
  Just wondering what will happen in this condition 
  .
   
  supposse I have two tablespaces data_large and 
  data_small . with datafiles data_large01.dbf and data_small01.dbf . some 
  transactions affects tables in both tablespaces . Now one day I lost 
  data_small01.dbf data files . I thought of recovering that data file from one 
  day old backup . 
  when I recover this data data file , will oracle 
  maintain transactio consistency for all transaction happened today . becuase 
  data_large01.dbf is up to date . but data_small01.dbf is one day old . will 
  oracle keep this in mind while applying archived logs at the time of recovery 
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RE: Urgent PDF to TXT Convert

2003-01-10 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi all,

Thanks for your reply.

I find a command pdftotext from Red Hat

Use a script run it very fast all my pdf files are now in text files.

Enjoy your weekend :)

Thank You

Sinardy


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Hi IT friends,

Do you know any 3rd party software (other than Adobe Acrobat) that convert few hundred 
pages of PDF to TXT.


Sorry for the OT but please guys, is quite urgent thanks


Sinardy

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OT: Urgent PDF to TXT Convert

2003-01-10 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi IT friends,

Do you know any 3rd party software (other than Adobe Acrobat) that convert few hundred 
pages of PDF to TXT.


Sorry for the OT but please guys, is quite urgent thanks


Sinardy

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RE: ORA-00600: [2662]

2003-01-06 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi guys,


This is what I get from Oracle

==

Hi Sinardy,

I've check several bug looking for the cause of this problem. However, what I've found 
is that Development could not diagnosis the problem other than the possibily hat there 
was some memory corruption that gave a bad SCN. Although, they could "sometimes" 
determine the root cause prior to the problem occurring by using certain parameters 
were set in the database. 

Those parameters are:

a)_db_block_cache_protect.
b)_db_block_checking
c)DB_BLOCK_CHECKSUM 

They also recommended running dbverify on all datafiles tomake sure all files are 
clean on disk.

IMPORTANT
==
These parameter may help later determine what cause the ORA-600 [2662] (and it's not 
for certain that a cause can be found). They parameters does have some performance 
overhead, but unfortunately this is the only way that can help in catching and we have 
to wait until the problem happens again.

So, the bottomline is there is no list of reason for why this error occuring other 
than the error occurs when a data block SCN is ahead of the current SCN.

Sorry Sinardy, we don't have more information.

Thanks!
Wonda

=

What can I do, help me please...


Sinardy



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Sinardy

ORA-0600 is really an encoded message from Oracle that reads :

'Thank you for helping find yet another bug in our software. You can now 
release your sphincter (some herbal tea might help), especially if this has 
cropped up in production. We suggest you do not try to solve this one by 
yourself, which is why the arguments are supplied. Kindly call OWWS with 
your CSI number, tell them exactly which version and platform you ran this 
on, and if we have encountered this previously, there is a small chance 
that we could have a patch. If not, please do not hold your breath waiting, 
while we assign this to an experienced software engineer, or perhaps a 
recent college grad, in which case, you're toast !' However, we will ask 
you to ftp up to our ftp site loads of dumps and traces which might prove 
useful.

Seriously though, ORA-0600 are mysteries. Your best chance is to get Tim 
Gorman to look at it, he has an amazing knowledge of these. And of course, 
Tim should not work for free either. (Tim, it was 10% commission we agreed 
on, right ? ) :-)

Ferenc Mantfeld

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Subject:ORA-00600: [2662]

Hi all,

I hit by this error

ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [2662], [0], [54151123], [0],
[54173017], [16781180], [], []


Can you help me where to find info about this error




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ORA-00600: [2662]

2003-01-06 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi all,

I hit by this error

ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [2662], [0], [54151123], [0], 
[54173017], [16781180], [], []


Can you help me where to find info about this error 




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RE: The best method for scheduled work

2003-01-06 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi Murat Balkas,

1. Perhaps you want to play around with Oracle's sysdate from dual?
2. If I am you, I will prepare my sql script then using cron (unix) to execute it 
(Windows has it's own version of scheduler program come with OS)

I believe most OS equip with scheduler program

Good luck.


Sinardy

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Hi,

  I want to move ( insert into select and than delete from ) some
records of a table to another one at midnights. It would be very nice if it
has logging facility.

  Do you have any good documantation about

* scheduled triggers
* executing time based queries using sqlplus

Thanks in advance.

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RE: functions/procedures and commits

2003-01-06 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi John Dunn,

My answer is never commit, Oracle will rollback.

Are you consider auto commit an implicitly commitment?


Sinardy

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> Under what circumstances is a COMMIT done implicitly?
> 
> If I call a function or procedure that performs an insert, but does not do
> a commit, will a commit be implicitly performed when the function ends?
> 
> i.e. is ...
> 
> begin
>
>  INSERT INTO
>  ... etc.
> 
> end;
> 
> the same as 
> 
> begin
> 
> insert_the_record;
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> end;
> 
> where insert_the_record  is a procedure that does the insert, but nothing
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RE: Help with IMPort

2003-01-06 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi Raja Kumar,

If you don't know what are the differences use the parameters touser and fromuser 

During importation
Oracle will recreate those tables 

I think if you not use the ignore = y you will get error message since Oracle cannot 
insert due to different table structure
Just guessing

If you are not require to know those table structure differences then you can drop the 
tables first.



Other Important Note: Make sure your dump file exported with parameter compress = n


Sinardy

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I have 2 8i database out of which one is production and the other is for
development and testing.

How can I update the data of the second one as the first one? tried import
but it didnt update the data nor capture some change made directly to the
table structure of the first ones.



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RE: strange issue with setting transaction

2003-01-06 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi Sony,

Commit will slow down your script. (I mean use the reasonable number of transactions 
per commit)
Perhaps you can set your Rollback segment optimal value to null.
Your rollback will never shrink : )


Sinardy

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Try to commit for every one transaction on your script, it will be helpful.

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> The transaction runs for a while and fails with:
> 
> ORA-01555: snapshot too old: rollback segment number 29 with name "R27"
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RE: New year humor

2003-01-05 Thread Sinardy Xing
Ha ha ha... but what is Chanukah?


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   Landing at Ben Gurion Airport... So True!!!

As the plane settled down at Ben Gurion airport, the voice of the
Captain
came on:

"Please remain seated with your seatbelt fastened until this plane is at
a complete standstill and the seat belt signs have been turned off."

"To those of you standing in the aisles, we wish you a Happy Chanukah."

"To those who have remained in their seats, we wish you a Merry
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imp table by table

2002-12-10 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi all,

I have dump files (1 table 1 dump file, dump filename is tablename)

How to create imp scripts that will import all those dump files without any 
referential problem

Something like this:


select 'imp system/manager file=./' || object_name || '.dmp || ' fromuser=myuser 
touser=myuser'
from user_objects
where object_name = myuser
order by creation;


do you think this will work ?

My problem is with referential


Thanks

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/opt/oracle/product/jre/1.1.8/bin/jre

2002-11-05 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi all,

Can I set this file to r-xr-xr-x ?

rwxrwxrwx   /opt/oracle/product/jre/1.1.8/bin/jre


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RE: Unkillable Background process "SHUTDOWN ABORT LEAVES UNKILLAB

2002-11-05 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi Stephen,



Sun Clustering basically quite simple (I think) :) 
an Oracle user dedicated to this software use to monitor (do query for certain system 
tables) the existence of the db
if anything wrong than this so call fault monitoring will do shutdown abort and 
release the mount points for 
second node to do startup pfile=

the problem is shutdown abort successful but the mounted points cannot be unmount 
because of those 
UNKILLED background processes.

I think sun clustering shuold add this 
if cannot release mount point then do "STOP A" follow by power off, right ?


Sinardy


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> -Original Message-
> 
> when I try to "sync" the session hung (init will sync 
> automatically therefore it hung too)
> I have to POWER OFF and POWER ON my SUN BOX to release the mount point
> My sun clustering fail to fail over because of this
> 
> there is jargon in unix call zombie process (what is this ?) 
> What is tampered process, and when it happen ?
> 

A zombie process is a process that was started by a parent process in such a
way that it is expected that the child process will exit and the parent will
acknowledge the exit; but the parent never did.  You used to see this all
the time on a Unix box in the past.  Now days, the "init" process usually
becomes the foster parent so you don't have zombies piling up as time goes
on.  There was never anything terribly wrong with zombies (as long as it
wasn't some ridiculous amount) since the only resource they tied up (at
least in theory) was a process ID number; and it made for a messy,
disconcerting ps output.

I know absolutely nothing about Sun clustering; but I am wondering if you
are having trouble with network file system reads and writes.  NFS problems
can cause hanging.
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RE: Unkillable Background process "SHUTDOWN ABORT LEAVES UNKILLABLE

2002-10-31 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi all,

Jared you are right...

kill -9  successful but ps -ef |grep ora_ said the processes are still there (only 
LGWR and CKPT, the rest are die)
when I try to startup again lk refuse to mount my database
I guest Oracle not finished the housekeeping job.

when I try to "sync" the session hung (init will sync automatically therefore it hung 
too)
I have to POWER OFF and POWER ON my SUN BOX to release the mount point
My sun clustering fail to fail over because of this

there is jargon in unix call zombie process (what is this ?) 
What is tampered process, and when it happen ?

Oracle Support said if shutdown abort can't kill the process is your OS problem not 
Oracle.
Why Oracle PMON and SMON never do anything about this ?


Sinardy




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I'm not new to Solaris or unix in general.

Rebooting to get rid of an unkillable process is not unheard of in unix 
land.

Jared





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Reboot, Yeah-Right.  This is Solaris, not Windoze.

I would try having the root user do the "kill -9" after doing a "truss" on
the process it see what it's looking at.  Doing a "ipcrm" on the shared
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Reboot and open a TAR.

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I am using solaris 8


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Hi all,

When I do shutdown abort my LGWR and CKPT still around and also kill -9
cannot get rid of them anyone know why ?

because of this my cluster fail to failover

Thanks

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RE: Unkillable Background process "SHUTDOWN ABORT LEAVES UNKILLABLE PROCESSES"

2002-10-31 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi,

I am using solaris 8


Sinardy

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Hi all,

When I do shutdown abort my LGWR and CKPT still around and also kill -9 cannot get rid 
of them anyone know why ?

because of this my cluster fail to failover

Thanks

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Unkillable Background process "SHUTDOWN ABORT LEAVES UNKILLABLE PROCESSES"

2002-10-31 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi all,

When I do shutdown abort my LGWR and CKPT still around and also kill -9 cannot get rid 
of them anyone know why ?

because of this my cluster fail to failover

Thanks

Sinardy

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RE: * Sr. Oracle 8i DBA Needed in NYC- Locals Only..

2002-10-13 Thread Sinardy Xing

Hi US friends,

How high is your income tax ?

90-110K is this the take home pay ?








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Position: Sr. Oracle 8i DBA 

Location: New York, New York

Industry: Publishing, Ecommerce

Salary Range: 90-110K-depends on experience plus excellent benefits and
bonus plan.


*PLEASE DO NOT send your resume for this position UNLESS you already live in
the 
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DO NOT send your resume unless you have a stable work history.
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If you are employed by a consulting company you must have a long term
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This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third parties
please.

No H-1B candidates please.

*Description:
This well-established, very successful New York City based Fortune
500 Company is looking for a Senior Oracle 8i Database DBA to assist in the
design and development of a database supporting the implementation of an
enterprise content management system that will support major new ecommerce
initiatives. 
As a Sr. Oracle 8i Database Administrator, you will assist in the design,
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testing and support of the development and production databases for this
brand new, 
rapidly expanding Ecommerce environment. - Work extensively with various
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Unix scripting need help

2002-08-26 Thread Sinardy Xing

Hi all,

For example, my files are like these

mylogfile001.log
mylogfile002.log

I want to initialize my variables with those number, like this

i=1
for all_file in `ls -1 /tmp`
do

file$i=all_file
i=i+1
done

file_tag1=`unix_command $file1 `  <--- help me here

when I do

echo $file_tag1

it should give me 001


Thank you

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RE: Set unused column to normal

2002-08-24 Thread Sinardy Xing

Hi Jared,

Noted, 

thanks.

Sinardy

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Not only is it not supported, it has been know on
occasion to trash a database.

I tried it years ago, several procedures could not
be recompiled after doing so.

An instructor from one Oracle class said he blew
away a database by doing this. 

Caveat emptor.

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Hi George,

This is the step:

0. SOP = Backup your DB before you make any changes

1a. What is your column name :_
1b. What is your column name :_ 
The order of your column that you drop is very important (I mean if 
they are in the same table)

2. Query dba_unused_col_tabs
 Take note the information of those unused columns

3. Query col$(obj#, col#, name, intcol#, property)
   Query tab$(obj#, cols, intcols, property)
 Optional
 Query obj$(obj#, name, subname, status)

4. modify col$
 If you see name = SYS_bla_bla_bla_bla, property = 32800 
then
 set 
 name = your column_name 
 property = 0
 col# = max(col#) + 1

   repeat this step if you have more than 1 columns
 the one your drop first should have smaller rowid compare 
to the second one

5. modify tab$
 select obj# from obj$ where name=your table name

 select tab$  <- step3
 where obj#=the one you get above

 set cols = max_columns
 intcols = max_columns
 property = 0



This is not supported by Oracle make sure you know what you are doing. 
Check metalink
article by Mike Ault


Sinardy






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Thank you very much for your reply. I did not drop them yet. How can I
recover those..?

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Hi George,


Have you drop those columns that you mark unsued?

if yes then you cannot recover them

check your dba_unsued_col_tabs (count will tell you how many unsued 
columns
you have that we can recover)


Sinardy

 



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Hi,
 I need some help. I set some columns in my table to 
unused. Is there
any way, can I make those back to normal? Thanks
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RE: Hot Backup using EMC /BCV splits

2002-08-20 Thread Sinardy Xing

Hi,

While your EMC Standard volumes and BCVs are in synchronized mode (not split), both 
Standard and BCV will be updated at the same time. So is better you split instantly 
before you end backup your tablespaces. This will ensure your data files in BCV are 
backup mode data files before you them copy to tape.


Sinardy


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Hi,

The logic should be like this

1. tablespace begin backup
1a. archive log current
2. suspend database (or sleep)
3. EMC synchronized standard volume and bcv
4. after all mount point (datafile) synchronized EMC split  
4a. after EMC split you can mount your bcv to another host and then do 
the media backup. while you can continue step 5
5. resume database
6. tablespace end backup


Sinardy

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Hello,

We are on IBM AIX 4.3.3  with EMC and BCVs. Our Unix admin has setup the
backups for the database in following sequence to do the Hot backup.

1.  Put all tablespaces in the database in Hot backup mode
2. Sleep 5
3. Put all the tablespaces back into normal mode
4. Split the BCV's
5. Mount on another machine and backed up from it.

What I am concerned is with step 4.  Split BCV's should be done at step 2
instead of step 4.
According to our Unix Admin, EMC takes care of consistency and there is no
need for any concern. As per him the split is instant split and EMC
guarantees consistency.

What do you all think.  What is the recommended procedure.

TIA,

Nate




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RE: Hot Backup using EMC /BCV splits

2002-08-19 Thread Sinardy Xing

Hi,

The logic should be like this

1. tablespace begin backup
1a. archive log current
2. suspend database (or sleep)
3. EMC synchronized standard volume and bcv
4. after all mount point (datafile) synchronized EMC split  
4a. after EMC split you can mount your bcv to another host and then do 
the media backup. while you can continue step 5
5. resume database
6. tablespace end backup


Sinardy

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Hello,

We are on IBM AIX 4.3.3  with EMC and BCVs. Our Unix admin has setup the
backups for the database in following sequence to do the Hot backup.

1.  Put all tablespaces in the database in Hot backup mode
2. Sleep 5
3. Put all the tablespaces back into normal mode
4. Split the BCV's
5. Mount on another machine and backed up from it.

What I am concerned is with step 4.  Split BCV's should be done at step 2
instead of step 4.
According to our Unix Admin, EMC takes care of consistency and there is no
need for any concern. As per him the split is instant split and EMC
guarantees consistency.

What do you all think.  What is the recommended procedure.

TIA,

Nate




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RE: Increase size of REDO log

2002-07-08 Thread Sinardy Xing

5 days ago ? check your alert log for the date and time of log switch 

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How about if I use LogMiner to read redo log to check which transaction had
been modified in 5 days ago, how do I know which redo log to look at?

Thanks,
David

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First,

Check for the one that is not the current one.

Select * from V$log;

ALTER DATABASE DROP LOGFILE '/u01/oradata/orcl/redo01.log';

delete the file manually

ALTER DATABASE ADD LOGFILE '/u01/oradata/orcl/redo01.log' size 30M;

Change your size to your desire one.

For the other ones do the same.

To change the active one.

ALTER SYSTEM SWITCH LOGFILE;

hth

Ramon



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RE: DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT issue

2002-07-08 Thread Sinardy Xing

Hi,

I am not using RMAN, This is what I try to do.

I try to create standby database manually

1. Copy all datafiles to new location (so call standby location)
2. create initstandby.ora ("almost" the same with the production)
2.a. DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT = (production path, standby path) is one of them
2.b. let oracle know where is your initstandby.ora
3. alter database create standby controlfile as 'standbycontrol.ctl';
3. startup nomount pfile = where is your initstandby.ora
4. alter database mount standby database;
5. recover standby database;  <- this will apply daily archived log, make sure 
your standby up to date.
6. shutdown; <- never open this database 

The problem is I don't know how to let Oracle know that my production datafile paths 
are more than one.
I think Oracle 9i can do that with DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT (para1, para2, para3, para4).

I Don't think is very funny if I have to rename all my production data files before I 
create standby control file. :(


Thanks

Sinardy



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Hi,


I don't know the syntax you are looking for but you could explicitly rename
every file in your RMAN script (set newname for datafile command)


Jack


   
        
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Hi guys,

Anyone that work in ASIA time please help me : )

Sinardy

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Hi guys,

I try to create standby database and my datafile are all over my hard disk,
what should I do to my DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT to let my standby database know
this issue ?

example

/prod_data1/system01.dbf
/prod_data2/user01.dbf
/prod_data3/rbs01.dbf

my standby datafile

/standby_data1/system01.dbf
/standby_data1/user01.dbf
/standby_data2/rbs01.dbf


I try this idiot way but there are no such parameters in v$parameter  :+)

DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT1 = (/prod_data1, /standby_data1)
DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT2 = (/prod_data2, /standby_data1)
DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT3 = (/prod_data3, /standby_data2)


Thanks so much.

Oh by the way I am using 8i


Sinardy

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RE: DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT issue

2002-07-07 Thread Sinardy Xing

Hi guys,

Anyone that work in ASIA time please help me : )

Sinardy

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Hi guys,

I try to create standby database and my datafile are all over my hard disk, what 
should I do to my DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT to let my standby database know this issue ?

example

/prod_data1/system01.dbf
/prod_data2/user01.dbf
/prod_data3/rbs01.dbf

my standby datafile

/standby_data1/system01.dbf
/standby_data1/user01.dbf
/standby_data2/rbs01.dbf


I try this idiot way but there are no such parameters in v$parameter  :+)

DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT1 = (/prod_data1, /standby_data1)
DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT2 = (/prod_data2, /standby_data1)
DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT3 = (/prod_data3, /standby_data2)


Thanks so much.

Oh by the way I am using 8i


Sinardy

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DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT issue

2002-07-07 Thread Sinardy Xing

Hi guys,

I try to create standby database and my datafile are all over my hard disk, what 
should I do to my DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT to let my standby database know this issue ?

example

/prod_data1/system01.dbf
/prod_data2/user01.dbf
/prod_data3/rbs01.dbf

my standby datafile

/standby_data1/system01.dbf
/standby_data1/user01.dbf
/standby_data2/rbs01.dbf


I try this idiot way but there are no such parameters in v$parameter  :+)

DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT1 = (/prod_data1, /standby_data1)
DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT2 = (/prod_data2, /standby_data1)
DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT3 = (/prod_data3, /standby_data2)


Thanks so much.

Oh by the way I am using 8i


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RE: Oracle 9i, can't break it?

2002-07-03 Thread Sinardy Xing

ha ha... funny

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I would say it is unbreakable.  Can't break what's already broke.

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In other words, it is unbreakable.  Can't get in... Can't break in...

Thank You

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They made changes to MetaLink over the weekend, I cannot search for my own TARs 
because of the country code.

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
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Guess who did?

MetaLink V2 - Note 

  An error occured while trying to query the system.
  Please try again later
  [CODE : -12541 ] 

Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it!!

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RE: !ls from sqlplus

2002-06-12 Thread Sinardy Xing

try this command

which sqlplus

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OS: Solaris 2.7
Database: 8.1.7

On dev server, !ls from sqlplus gives the files of current directory where
sqlplus runs.
On pro server, !ls from sqlplus goes to the home directory of os user.

For example,
Login to sqlplus from /u01 on both machines,
on dev: SQL> !pwd
/u01

on pro: SQL> !pwd
/export/oracle

What seting affects this ?

Thanks,

-Li Zhang

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RE: Oracle IAS

2002-06-11 Thread Sinardy Xing

Yes

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Have Intel P4?

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> Hi all,
>
> I try to install Oracle IAS 8i into my Win 2K SP 2, and the universal
installer is hang, any idea (I have huge RAM)
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