[OGD] AOL on a Mac
I tried going through their rigmarole sent an e-mail, ostensibly through AOL, but it disappeared completely. I would like to find a way to eliminate the thing altogether. I don't have your original post in the OGD so I'm not aware of your initial complaint. I not sure who 'their' is referring to - AOL or Apple.If you mean AOL From what I can see there isn't a fully supported version of AOL desktop for Leopard yet, only beta versions. I'm not an AOL user but you might find some answers here: http://macblog.aol.com/ Emails not sending/arriving may be a different issue. The first course of action is tring to send an email to yourself. This will test both sending and receiving. If this works, then it may be a routing issue Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Default Mail program in OS X
What happens is that if I click on an e-mail link, instead of opening a new e-mail in AOL, my computer sends me to its internal Mail program. I haven't figured out yet how to turn this off. You need to change the default mail program. Launch the Mac Mail application, go to Preferences and under the General tab, the first field will allow you to set the default mail client. There is also a free utility that configure your default apps but I haven't tried it so I can't comment on its reliability http://www.creativetechs.com/iq/set_default_applications_in_mac_os_x.html Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Global cooling
Buzz proclaims: Look out all you environmentalist wackos, the Russians have just announced a study that says the global warming is over and cooling is about to begin. Just as well we have rational folk like you to keep us wackos in check huh? A pity you didn't check a little more carefully. Here let me help - this comes from a bit closer to the source: http://en.rian.ru/russia/20060825/53143686.html Global cooling could develop on Earth in 50 years. What's the third word along - could? So it's as least as much an unproven hypothesis as the current global warming one is. And given that this info is over a year old, I don't see much publicity about it, Surely if this is true, it would be a cause for more immediate concern. Global warming may not be as bad as we think. I'd be happy for it to be wrong. But at least thinking about it has us trying to use less of our limited resources, developing better technology and maybe even polluting less. ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Bruyninckx
I hope Kenneth doesn't mind demystifying something he may get enjoyment from (mangled pronunciation attempts) but I found this: Bruyninckx, Walter (BROO-nix) http://www.loc.gov/nls/other/sayhow.html Another site also suggests this pronunciation but then to muddy the waters, Walter Bruyninckx, a Belgian jazz musician apparently has his name pronounced BROYNICKS Perhaps you can get an orchid named after you Kenneth. I'm sure it wouldn't take long for a common name to be found for it. Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] OGD suggestion
If the problem of missing digests is merely because of exceeding spam limits of the server, then an easy work-around is that everyone's profile is set to receive the OGD in digest form rather than individual emails. On the OGD subscription page http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com, there is an option for that purpose: Would you like to receive list mail batched in a daily digest?. Just select 'Yes' or perhaps Kenneth can perform a global change. Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Fundamentals of Orchid Biology reprint
In response to Michael's question about the quality of the reprint of F.O.B., I have received this response from Dr. Arditti: This company specializes in reprints. They scanned the book and did some magic after that to ensure good reproduction. The book looks like the original except that the cover is soft Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Fundamentals of Orchid Biology reprinted
Fundamentals of Orchid Biology by Dr. J. Ardittii went out of print several years ago and was selling for as much as US$1000/used copy It has now been reprinted and can be bought for as little as US$175 from Zip Publishing at http://www.zipedu.com/Arditti www.zipedu.com/Arditti. Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Willis
You believe that inquiring about the wellbeing of a person is an invasion of his/her privacy? If you know the answer, please tell us Rick. It is when you are asking to make it public on this forum. As I said, if he wanted it known, he would have told someone. The end. ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Virus warning
Oliver reported The sender's ID suggests that this comes from off this list. Others will, therefore be likely to receive it. This has been raised many times. The From field does not necessarily indicate the sender of the virus. The way most viruses (or more correctly, worms) work these days is that they spoof the sender's email address by picking any address that it can locate on the infected PC. But yes, there is a good chance that someone on this list is infected so it's wise to invest in good quality antivirus software and keep it up to date. Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Orchids Digest, Vol 8, Issue 273
If it's not true then all is good in the world of Aussie natives (mostly!!) Dendrobium kingianum var silcockii is still generally recognised as a variety although the taxonomy of D. kingianum below species level itself is subject to debate and best left to the taxonomists. Others would call silcockii merely a colour form of D. kingianum, just as bi-colour forms of D. bigibbum aren't given varietal status. I would speculate that this rumour may have arisen from the doubt expressed by some judges that an orchid labelled as Dendrobium kingianum is actually a 'kingie'. Given that some grexes such as D. Rutherford Bluetongue have over 90% kingianum in the background, they appear very kingianum-like in shape and colour but the small percentage of other species in the inheritance may arouse suspicion due to some anomalous feature - often labellum shape and size. D. kingianum's labellum typically has a rather small mid-lobe. I'm certain this happens in other orchids as well. Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Humour: How many forum members does it takes to change a light bulb?
Possibly posted before but here goes anyhow: How many forum members does it takes to change a light bulb? 1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been changed 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed differently 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs 1 to move it to the Lighting section 2 to argue then move it to the Electricals section 7 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs 5 to flame the spell checkers 3 to correct spelling/grammar flames 6 to argue over whether it's lightbulb or light bulb ... another 6 to condemn those 6 as stupid 2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is lamp 15 know-it-alls who claim they were in the industry, and that light bulb is perfectly correct 19 to post that this forum is not about light bulbs and to please take this discussion to a lightbulb forum 11 to defend the posting to this forum saying that we all use light bulbs and therefore the posts are relevant to this forum 36 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this technique and what brands are faulty 7 to post URLs where one can see examples of different light bulbs 4 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly and then post the corrected URLs 3 to post about links they found from the URL's that are relevant to this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group 13 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including all headers and signatures, and add Me too 5 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they cannot handle the light bulb controversy 4 to say didn't we go through this already a short time ago? 13 to say do a Google search on light bulbs before posting questions about light bulbs 2 to post something that has already been posted 1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and start it all over again. . And 1 to rubbish lightbulbs and praise the good old candle Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Autogamy in orchids - self-pollination by movement of the column.
I haven't been following OGD threads as diligently as in the past so excuse me if this has already been discussed. Someone asked me the other day about autogamy in orchids - particularly the Chinese orchid Holcoglossum amesianum which apparently has the ability to pollinate itself by the stipe moving to bring the pollinia into contact with the stigma.(See article at http://www.livescience.com/environment/060621_orchid_sex.html) The article on this disovery by Chinese botanists was published in the Nature magazine. I'm by no means a botanist but I said I would do some research - which in my case is Google. The person was interested in this deliberate form of autogamy. He mentioned a species of Liparis from Hawaii may have this ability. He asked a contact there but they did not know of this other than it would not be surprising, given the scarcity of orchid species and pollinators in Hawaii. I know there are quite a few orchids that are autogamous due to the ease which the pollinia can fall into the stigma e.g. Thelymitra spp. Does anyone know about the Liparis mentioned or of other taxa that has the ability to self-pollinate by movement of the column? Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Fear of rejection
my posts were rejected without explanation. Bert I received a similar rejection. I sent an email to Kenneth without reply so I'd say he is on a mission or holidays. However, what I found was that my webmail was directing my posts to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Solution: make sure the To: address is orchids@orchidguide.com (like your latest one). If it's still getting rejected, try sending in plain text. Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] American lifestyle/Epiblastus
Who will tell the asians that they will never attain the American lifestyle Isn't that a little arrogant and potentially offensive? There are many in the world, not just Asian countries, who believe that the American lifestyle (what is that by the way?) is not one that they should or need to attain. This does not mean that the American lifestyle is deficient, just pointing out that people may consider other options. Meanwhile, back on topic, has anyone had any experience in growing, especially deflasking Epiblastus? It is related to Ceratostylis and Mediocalcar so perhaps they may be an indicator. Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Oxygen levels
Cynthia to Steve Topletz: A few hundred years ago, available oxygen was about 36%+. A FEW HUNDRED YEARS?? Try 300 million. What an enjoyable topic. This site has some useful information (with the caveat that I'm nowhere near an authority on this topic and I'm only quoting one source): http://www.globalchange.umich.edu/globalchange1/current/lectures/samson/evolution_atm/index.html Fluctuations in Oxygen The history of macroscopic life on Earth is divided into three great eras: the Paleozoic, Mesozoic and Cenozoic. Each era is then divided into periods. The latter half of the Paleozoic era, includes the Devonian period, which ended about 360 million years ago, the Carboniferous period, which ended about 280 million years ago, and the Permian period, which ended about 250 million years ago. According to recently developed geochemical models, oxygen levels are believed to have climbed to a maximum of 35 percent and then dropped to a low of 15 percent during a 120-million-year period that ended in a mass extinction at the end of the Permian. ** and prior to the above entry: Why does present-day oxygen sit at 20%? This is not a trivial question since significantly lower or higher levels would be damaging to life. If we had 15% oxygen, fires would not burn, yet at 25% oxygen, even wet organic matter would burn freely. Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Atmospheric oxygen levels
Cynthia to Steve Topletz: A few hundred years ago, available oxygen was about 36%+. A FEW HUNDRED YEARS?? Try 300 million. What an enjoyable topic. This site has some useful information (with the caveat that I'm nowhere near an authority on this topic and I'm only quoting one source): http://www.globalchange.umich.edu/globalchange1/current/lectures/samson/evolution_atm/i ndex.html Fluctuations in Oxygen The history of macroscopic life on Earth is divided into three great eras: the Paleozoic, Mesozoic and Cenozoic. Each era is then divided into periods. The latter half of the Paleozoic era, includes the Devonian period, which ended about 360 million years ago, the Carboniferous period, which ended about 280 million years ago, and the Permian period, which ended about 250 million years ago. According to recently developed geochemical models, oxygen levels are believed to have climbed to a maximum of 35 percent and then dropped to a low of 15 percent during a 120-million-year period that ended in a mass extinction at the end of the Permian. ** and prior to the above entry: Why does present-day oxygen sit at 20%? This is not a trivial question since significantly lower or higher levels would be damaging to life. If we had 15% oxygen, fires would not burn, yet at 25% oxygen, even wet organic matter would burn freely. Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Are you serious?
I don't mean this in a 'smarty-way' - I don't know the emoticon for 'serious' :-| Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Gmail
I have 100 invites to give away if any of you are interested please contact me off list. And if Barb doesn't have enough, I have 200 :) Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Wollemi Pines
As this is the rarest tree in the world why is it allowed to be exported. I believe those are seedlings. If the exporters had their CITES paperwork in order, they could do so. All trees have been grown from cuttings I believe. And then there was this letter from last Saturday's Sydney Morning Herald: You can add to comments about Wollemi Pine marketing hype the fact that its recent discovery is also a marketing fiction. You can assume that Aborigines always knew about it - but Lithgow bushies have also always known about it, calling it the chocolate crackle tree. There are several stands, not all inaccessible. If a tree grows in a forest without someone making money from it, does it really exist? Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Seasons
I knew they did things differently down under, but how is Sept. 1 the first day of spring, not the Equinox, Sept. 21? Like all countries in the southern hemisphere, Australia's seasons follow the sequence: * Summer: December to February * Autumn: March to May * Winter: June to August * Spring: September to November I believe these are opposite to seasons in Northern hemisphere. Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Fw: Talks and Seminar on Orchids by Prof Joe Arditti in Malaysia.
An offer too good to miss . Passed on by request Dear Learned Colleagues,SEG International Bhd has the honour of sponsoring a series of public lectures/seminar presented by Professor Emeritus Joseph Arditti of University California, Irvine. This sponsorship is a part of our community service undertakings and it aims to provide an opportunity for all interested persons to gain from the knowledge and expertise of Professor Arditti. Professor Arditti has worked on orchid for a greater part of his career as a orchid scientist, these events present the participants with a chance to interact with him and perhaps receive his inputs and comments on areas related to orchids, especially in the field of tissue culture and propagation of plants. You are cordially invited to attend this series of public events and we believe that the presence of learned colleagues like your good selves will further enhance the interaction and exchange of views and ideas that these events will present. Those who are interested, please kindly email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for reservation of seats.A short write up regarding these events, including the programmes and location map of PRIME College USJ, Selangor, Malaysia has been uploaded to my website for your convenience. Please follow the URL/link below:http://planet.time.net.my/KLCC/isystem/The%20Guru%20of%20Orchids%20will%20be%20in%20town.htm Briefly the programmes are as follows:Public Lectures: 1. The Ethnobotany of Orchids2. Orchids in Murders and SpaceDate: 2nd August 2005 (Tuesday)Programme: 14:00 - 14:05 Brief introduction of Professor Joseph Arditti by Dr. Chow Yong Neng (Event Organiser)14:05 - 15:30 Lecture 1: Ethnobotany of Orchids15:30 - 15: 45: Tea/Coffee Break (Light refreshment will be served)15:45- 17: 00 Lecture 2 : Orchids in Murders and Space17: 00 - 17:30 Questions and Answers Venue: PRIME College USJ (Auditorium)4th Floor, The Summit USJ,Persiaran Kewajipan USJ1,47600 UEP Subang Jaya,Selangor Darul Ehsan,Malaysia._Public Seminar/Workshop: Tissue Culture Propagation and Seed Germination of OrchidsDate: 4th August 2005 (Thursday)Programme: 14:00 - 14:05 Brief introduction of Professor Joseph Arditti by Dr. Chow Yong Neng (Event Organiser)14:05 - 15:45: Tissue Culture Propagation and Seed Germination of Orchids (Part I)15:45 - 16: 00: Tea/Coffee Break (Light refreshment will be served)16:00 - 17:00 Tissue Culture Propagation and Seed Germination of Orchids(Part II)17:00 - 17:30 Questions Answers SessionVenue: PRIME College USJ (Auditorium)Many thanks for your attention.Dr. YN Chow ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Here in my car...
David Banks told us: However the orchids prefer the muzik, so I make sure they get a good blast of Gary Numan and a heap of 80's music!! It's true - I went around to David's place once and the orchids were rocking to Cars. However, that occurred not long after my OGD post concerning the myth that plants are supposed to respond to music. So at the time I thought the music may have been more for my benefit than the orchids. Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Dendrobium lichenastrum and D.toressae
David Banks mentioned: I don't believe that Dendrobium lichenastrum or Dendrobium toressae have ever been formally transferred within the genus Dockrillia. Brieger originally proposed Lichenastra as a section of Dockrillia which included D. lichenastra and D. toressae. Why they weren't later included in Dockrillia as it is known today, I don't know. D. Jones and M. Clements published a checklist of Dockrillia in The Orchadian 12(2)(1997) which did not list the above taxa but mentioned a conflict of views between Brieger (1981) and Rauschert (1983)but not specifically. Rauschert is credited with the naming of many Dockrillia species. Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] RE: Majors Creek Leek Orchid, OGD Vol 7, Issue 236
One of the rare species - the Majors Creek leek orchid - is found nowhere else... An interesting article outlining the contrast between conservation and community attitudes. The leek orchid is the common name applied to plants of the genus Prasophyllum R. Br. The species mentioned is similar to P. caricetum D. L. Jones but is thought to be a separate taxon, as P. caricetum flowers in late summer while the Majors Creek Leek Orchid flowers in mid-spring I found this paper on Prasophyllum: http://www.rsbs.anu.edu.au/Profiles/Dean_Rouse/Pdfs/PrasReportWeb.pdf Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Perpetual inflorescences
Many, many years ago when my interest in orchids had not yet developed into a full blown hobby, I used to wonder at the ubiquitous crucifix orchids found growing in many gardens around Sydney, Australia and indeed other parts of the world. I think the orchid is more formally known as Epidendrum Burtonii (orange yellow flower) or Epidendrum X obrienianum (red flower). The flowers kept on continually being produced from the inflorescence. Is there a scientific term for this phenomenon and what other orchids display it? For example I have Thrixspermum centipeda which, although a one day wonder, has several inflorescences which are still producing flowers seasonally for at least the last 3 years with no sign that each has spent. Also, interestingly, each inflorescence produces one flower at a time which seem to open and close at the same time. Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] RE: Orchids Digest, Vol 7, Issue 189
Acclaimed best selling author Peter O'Byrne lamented: they have just sold the last 5 copies of my book Lowland Orchids of PNG. I can no longer put you in touch with anyone who can sell you the book Fortunately all is not lost. You can still obtain copies from Orchidaceous Books in Australia http://www.orchidaceousbooks.com.au/ (among other bookselleres, no doubt) Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] RE:Orchids and lyrebirds
ask the source cited in the news story published by the ABC why he suspects that lyrebirds eat orchids [Zoologist Michael Driessen says work is under way to protect rare plants from the lyrebird.] The article does not state anywhere that the lyrebirds _eat_ the orchids. Michael Driessen didn't write the article but he reportedly stated ...and thought this was because of the activity of the lyrebird. By the way, in the news story, the word 'terrestrial' is not used. Rare orchids and a rare orchid in the south-west are the expressions used. There are two known epiphytic species in Tasmania: Dockrillia striolata and Sarcochilus australis. Neither species is rare so a logical assumption would be that the rare orchids referred to are terrestrial. Please don't feel the need to defend the article, Viateur. You found a link to an orchid-related news item and some doubts were expressed about its veracity. You have posted quite a few orchid related news items which I think many/most on the list would get enjoyment from. I don't think they would mind if the odd article didn't quite add up but it's important to clear up any misunderstandings. Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] RE: Aussie Gold
Aussie Gold Orchid Mix. The patented mix was developed to prevent overwatering and rotten roots in orchids... it also resists bugs. Aussie Gold is simply diatomite. I don't know why they chose the name Aussie Gold - it appears to have nothing to do with Australia. Even its creators are ex-pat English. Check the website at http://www.aussie-gold.com/ The site makes big claims on its effectiveness but I haven't had enduring success with diatomite here in Australia. The claim can't be over-watered doesn't mention the caveat keep the water up.. It might work for others but I would be trying a plant or two in one's conditions before converting to it. Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Subject: Re: OGD Vol 7, Issue 105 - Paphiopedilum stomata
Paphiopedilum are C3 plants, and they can certainly open and close their stomata. Dr. Joseph Arditti has scientific journals to back this up. There was a paper on paphs from Dr. Arditti's laboratory some 20 years ago and another one other before that. The journals are Annals of Botany and The New Phytologist. ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Famous people and Orchids
Hi Does anyone know of famous people, current or historic, who has/had an interest in orchids? Regards Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Den. forbesii
Den. forbesii: Does this species need any special treatment to flower. The plant is a seedling, and there are four ps'bulbs - The plant is much too small to think about flowering yet. It sounds like you are providing it with the right conditions but you didn't provide info about temperature conditions. Be careful of too much light (ie leaf burn) and keep the humidity up. Avoid getting water in the bracts of new growths as it is susceptible to rot. One grower I know will cover the pot with his hand and turn the plant upside down to gently shake out any water from the plant. The pseudobulbs of a mature plant are usually around 2ft long on well grown plants. You will probably find it it will take a couple more years to get to flowering size. At one stage you will notice that new growths will be much bigger. This growth spurt seems to be the case for many of the larger members of Dendrobium section Latouria such as D. engae, D. polysema, D. forbesii and these larger growths will be probably be flower bearing when they mature. Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Lighbinders - Compatability mode in Win XP
Installing on XP and W2K can only be done with a workaround, like using a 3rd party installer Windows XP also offers a compatability mode for older software. It is only compatible down to Windows 95 s/w but may work with Lighbinders (I have no experience with this s/w) Info on using Compatibility mode can be found at http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/learnmore/appcompat. mspx or here http://www.worldstart.com/tips/tips.php/754. Or, just google windows xp compatibility mode Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] RE: Orchids Digest, Vol 7, Issue 39, Message: 1 aka Replying to the OGD
Before you hit the Send button, could you please check your email and delete all the other unnecessary stuff...it doesn't take long. Preferably, replies should only quote the relevant parts of the message you're replying to and certainly not the whole digest. Cheers...Steve (Not intending to be a pseudo-moderator) ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Re: Natural hybrids
- Original Message - From: Neville Howcroft To: Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 9:19 AM Subject: Re: A response This was the thrust of the comments I made re the Fly island hybrids. If the hybridization process stabilizes all siblings from the F3 hybrids may start to look more like each other and we then start considering that we have a new species, but variable in its characters. Species are based on similarities and dissimilarities. Its a bit difficult to talk about these without lining up some good examples. In the Fly islands we probably have four species involved and over a period of recombining we now have a D. lineale with a red labellum , broader petal apices that are yellow and the base white. However in the same region we have the Kui Blue D. lineale and around the corner a plant of D. sylvanum characters but with a pink colour. With a few populations of each species looking normal they are probably combining and and recombining. Segregation occurs with one portion leaning towards one grandparent or the other but with differences in colour, shape of labellum or petals and plant vigour. Just as mentioned in Paul's response (last para back crossing to D taberi and the cane size being influenced). In the case of hybrid swarms which are very evident with Spathoglottis, these may establish themselves along way from both parents populations and start their own colonies. In the case of S. portus-finschii, hybrids with S. plicata ssp puberula as the paternal parent, they become less like hybrids after recombination among themselves and start looking more like S. portus finschii. Examination of the labellum will establish their relationship within the species but it is easy to see how one would pass them off as variations of the pure species. The story is similar with S. plicata ssp puberula crosses with the above species - over a period of time the hybrids water themselves down and start looking more like the S. plicata ssp puberula. Give away characteristics are the labellum and floral bract characters and importantly too - the characteristics of the pseudobulbs. I think this genus is a great one to illustrate the problems we are talking about . First, Spaths are weed species - the flowers take about 8 week to develop and mature, the seed can spread over long distances, the seedlings take around 18 months to reach flowering and reproduction. The ones I have studied mostly share the same pollinators. A single plant may produce cleistogamous flowers and outcrossing flowers on the same inflorescence. Some species may not cross with other species: different flowering times or chemical barriers and perhaps in this case different pollinators,gGeographic separation. (The latter does not always occur). Usually too you can get at least three species in any region. Ecologically their habitats may differ to the extreme but if their sections(taxonomic) are close, the flower and calli colour patterns are similar and the pollinator (often a bee) is around then you should be on your guard for hybrids. Synchronized flowering times are important but not completely necessary as only an off season flowering for any species to overlap with the others may be sufficient to allow a chance cross pollination. With the Cooktown orchid complex I think alot of the hybrids should be best regarded as provenance hybrids. I have no problems with the naming of these as straight hybrids. At least it puts a name to the face. Escapees from these to the wild present us with another problem and this is why we should be a it more concerned about the genetic integrity of the truely wild populations and we should try harder to keep and faithfuly maintain better accessuion records. Salting habitats with nursery raised stock of a species in the name of conservation needs to be done with care and supervision. Nev. PS Because there is natural selection processes at play when the numerous seed start to germinate we can expect only the best adapted will survive and from there on the process of reproduction - selfing and /or out crossing will continue. ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Terry Glancy's posts
Terry A. Glancy has tried three times to post this story on the OGD. He tried it in Rich Text and Plain Text and each time the message was rejected. I did not receive the message itself either, just the message headers. The OGD mail server software (pipermail) ignores the body as it it thought it is an attachment as this message within Terry's OGD post suggests: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-- next part -- My question is what email program is Terry using? I think Incredimail seems to post the message in some sort of text box. Perhaps this is the problem. Another question is for those who claim they can see the messages - do you see Terry's actual message or just the message header details? Perhaps those on OGD who receive their messages in digest form rather than individual emails can see the message??? I get the OGD in digest form. Can you shed any light on this Kenneth? Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] RE: Orchids Digest, Vol 7, Issue 6
Michael Last fall I purchased a Dendrobium jonesii Any feedback from individuals who have first-hand experience with this species will be greatly appreciated. We would need more info about your growing conditions but I assume you somewhere in the US and hence it is mid-winter. So your orchid would be in its rest period now. It originates from the ranges in northern Queensland but grows well in the Sydney area. This is an easy to grow species. From my experience it can tend to sulk a bit when disturbed but given the right conditions, plants will kick on fine. What are the right conditions for you? Well continue to treat them as you say you have been treating them but I would say a pine bark + pebble mix would be the preferred mix for Aussie growers. However, it also does well mounted on a hardwood mount. I have one clone growing OK on treefern. There is good info at http://www.anos.org.au/groups/newcastle/newc-c.htm Take note of the bit about growing in glasshouses. I had one in a glasshouse at one time but it wasn't doing anything until I removed it. Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Tsunami disaster
Where we are slowly coming to terms with the tsunami disaster. Yes, this overshadows anything going on in the world at the moment. I hope you have all decided to forego buying a few orchids this year (and coming years for that matter)to provide money for the surviving victims of the tsunami. The fortunate foreigners who survived will at least have a home to return to and can be assured of food, water and shelter. And a happy new year to you all. Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Re: Rebuilding the archives or what? (OGD v6#5)
Be careful opening Failed mail messages -especially ones with attachments. Some I have seen recently contain viruses. Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
RE: [OGD] help with Dendrobium types please
Sharon asked: I was wondering if someone could please tell me what 'type' of Dendrobium the following are: 1. Den. (Darlie mikani x Candy Stripe) x (Candy Stripe x Compactum) The first is probably Darcie Mikami which is a Den. phalaenopsis hybrid. Overall that's what you have - a Den. phalaenopsis hybrid. I won't search the entire parentage to see if there is anything else there but you have something which is essentially warm growing with a dry winter rest. 2. Den. (Queen Southest canaliculatum) x (den bigibbum 'compactum'): The first is Den. (Queen Southeast x canaliculatum)and once again, the plant you have is a Den. phalaenopsis hybrid with a bit of canaliculatum and taurinum in it. If you could please help me with the winter care requirements etc. of these, I would be most grateful. You have two Hawaiian bred Den. Phal hybrids. Which implies warmth with a dry rest in winter. Probably best to not water at all in winter. It would be better to ask others in your area who might grow such hybrids to see how they treat theirs. The south facing winder might afford the best light. Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
Re: [OGD] Snails
Can anyone advise if there's a product available in liquid form to combat (small) snails Aahh.. the good old garlic snail. These were reeking a bit of havoc among orchid growers earlier this year - they would gnaw away the root tips causing the plant to not absorb enough water and the leaves on new growths would turn yellow and fall off There is a product I bought from Alan Merriman (Miriam Ann Orchids in Glenbrook, Blue Mts) that I can't remember the name of. It was in liquid form but I'm not sure how effective it is - not very from memeory as I haven't used it for years. Some advocate repotting while ensuring there are no snails remaining on the plant when you do. If you have a large collection this is not practical. Alan is the best person to talk to on this topic. His ph. no. (02) 4739 5141 There's also good info at http://www.greenharvest.com.au/fact_sheets/fs_slug_snail.html Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
RE: [OGD] Liquid Smoke
Earlier this year, scientists at Kings Park Botanical Gradens in Western Australia perfected what is sometimes called smoke water. Someone was kind enough to correct me on this. Liquid Smoke (trade name Regen) is a product used for many years as a safe alternative to smoking meats as well as in the timber industry. It has also been used as an aid for germination of many plants, not just Aussie ones. I have further discovered from Googling that smoked water in certain concentrations can also inhibit germination of some plants (eg paper daisies) Dr. Kingsley Dixon et al from Kings Park were the ones reponsible for identifying the active ingredient for germination not for the perfection of smoked water. Thanks to the sender for this correction. Articles can be found at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/pbs/2004-July/018596.html http://www.rirdc.gov.au/comp98/wnf1.htm#KPW-1A http://www.greeningaustralia.org.au/GA/NAT/TipsAndTools/Library/Smokeseed.ht m http://www.ausbulbs.org/Features%20Articles/Smoke%20treatment%20of%20Seed.ht m http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/enviro/EnviroRepublish_1147171.htm The paper published on this is: Flematti et al., A Compound from Smoke That Promotes Seed Germination, Science 2004 305: 977 [http://www.sciencemag.org/ - subscription required] CheersSteve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
Re: [OGD] Re: Pecteilis susannae
if indeed it needs fire to come back strong the next year, could this not be done artificially Earlier this year, scientists at Kings Park Botanical Gradens in Western Australia perfected what is sometimes called smoke water. In other words, water that contains ingredients that will simulate the effects of a bush fire on the germination of certain species.I can't find the exact details after a very brief google search but there are other techniques related to seed germination mentioned at: http://www.kpbg.wa.gov.au/cgi-bin/index.cgi?page=/science/seeddorm.shtmlmen u=/science/menu.html I will do some further research on this but if anyone else knows more, please share. Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
Re: [OGD] Re: justification
Sounds like seditious libel No, it's called humour (even if cynical). I find it an excellent tonic. Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
Re: [OGD] That Bulbo of from First Ray
It looks a like B. alagense or something very similiar. I have B. alagense and that was my first rection when I saw Ray's photo. If Ray's plant definitely came from Irian Jaya then it is either a very similar species or the range of B. alagense extends beyond the Philippines (or the supplier made an error with the plant's origin). I'm sure there are others on this forum who could confirm this. CheersSteve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
Re: [OGD] George's justification
George broke the law not to smuggle in plants that he could not have brought in legally otherwise, but simply to avoid the hassle and incompetence of the government agencies involved. Wow, if that argument was a reasonable justification for avoiding prosecution, then what a field day lawyers would have. I know I was speeding, officer, but I was hoping to hurry past you so you wouldn't have all that paperwork to fill out I thought that government agencies and hassle and incompetence amounted to tautology. Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
RE: [OGD] Cymbidium canaliculatum
I can't comment on sources of this orchid outside Australia but I can vouch that it is generally a difficult orchid to grow. Like its compatriot, Cymbidium suave, C. canaliculatum is generally found growing on trees - often dead where the root system will grow extensively into the rotting heartwood of the host. From this it derives its food moisture. It grows mainly inland in dry forests and in fairly exposed situations. It tends to be very water sensitive - you need to grow it fairly dry, especially in winter. Watering in winter will almost guarantee death of the plant. It also has high light requirements and intermediate temperatues. It can grow cool as long as its water sensitivity is observed and kept waterless over winter. One grower in Australia advocates changing the potting medium every other year as his method for success in keeping it going. Cheers...Steve -Original Message- From: michael timmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 11 October 2004 7:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OGD] Cymbidium canaliculatum Does anyone know where I can purchase a Cymbidium canaliculatum? Found several places in Australia that export to the USA; however, the price of paperwork and shipping is prohibitively expensive. I'd be interested in hearing from any growers who also might either have this plant for sale or have information regarding its ease (or difficulty) of culture. Thank you! ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
Re: [OGD] Dendrobium bigibbum, D. phalaenopsis and a challenge to the splitters.
Peter Personally, I consider D. phalaenopsis to be a synonym of D. biggibum You mean Vappodes phalaenopsis and Vappodes bigibba don't you? Cheers...Steve - Original Message - From: Peter O'Byrne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 10:06 PM Subject: [OGD] Dendrobium bigibbum, D. phalaenopsis and a challenge to the splitters. In OGD V6 #353, Alexis said: According to the RHS website, Den. Orchidwood is still an accepted hybrid name. In my opinion, if the hybrid name is still accepted, then how can they (D. biggibum and D. phalaenopsis) be the same species. Alexis, if you search through the OGD archives, you'll find this question has been discussed many times before. If my memory serves, we've even thrashed through the problem as applied to these two Dendrobiums. The RHS are custodians of a record of the parents used to make orchid crosses. Nothing more, nothing less. While the RHS try to stay up-to-date with current species nomenclature, they are selective about applying the latest concepts. Their decisions are often pragmatic rather than systematic, and they quite happily permit anomalies to remain in their database when it suits their purposes. Furthermore, the RHS record is based ONLY on the names of the parents (as submitted by the hybridizers, who are often wrong), not the phenotype or genotype of these plants. This means that the RHS list has ZERO botanic value. That's right, NO VALUE at all. The RHS have no influence regarding the acceptability of species names amongst botanists. NONE WHATSOEVER. Serious botanists do not even refer to the RHS lists when evaluating the relationships between orchid species. The bottom line is that the RHS are consumers of species nomenclature, not producers. You cannot derive any conclusions about orchid-species nomenclature from the RHS website. The only relevant sources are botanic ones. Alexis also said: I saw pictures in a book with each of the species and the Den. bigibbum had a white fuzzy lip on the flower and the Den. phalaenopsis did not and looked definitely different. Alexis, how do you know that the plants illustrated in the book were what the book said they were ? You cannot make accurate judgements from photos in a book. In Dendobium and its relatives by Lavarack, Harris and Stocker (2000), the photo of D. biggibum shows a plant with a purple lip and a white fuzzy callus, while the photo of var. superbum (ie, D. phalaenopsis) shows a plant with a purple lip and a purple fuzzy callus. The text says that D. biggibum USUALLY has a white spot on the lip and that you OCCASIONALLY find white-flowered specimens of var. superbum. From personal experience I can attest the accuracy of both these statements, though I wouldn't dare to testify in court that the photos show the correct species. The presence or absence of white/purple fuzzy stuff on the lip tells you nothing you cannot safely use colour to distinguish between species. Personally, I consider D. phalaenopsis to be a synonym of D. biggibum, but then, I'm a reactionary traditionalist lumper at heart. for instance, I also happen to think that Aerides lawrenceae and A. quinquevelnera are nothing more than common-or-garden Aerides odorata. I hereby challenge anyone who believes that D. phalaenopsis is a different species to D. biggibum to tell all OGD readers exactly what the difference is. Please don't waffle about colour ... both taxa exist in both colour forms. And please don't resort to vague statements such as D. phalaenopsis has larger flowers be precise ... tell us something we can measure, eg the range of dorsal sepal dimensions for all specimens of D. phalaenopsis, and how it differs from the range for all specimens of D. biggibum. Over to you, splitters. Peter O'Byrne Singapore - Did ya know that, while 60% of Saudi citizens describe themselves as religious, more than 80% of US citizens say the same about themselves. (Source: BBC) ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
RE: [OGD] Wars
Presently I am looking for creative ways to expand my growing space --short of building another greenhouse. How about a piece of birdwire suspended above and hanging pots from it (so they don't drip on plants below. Or a length of wire suspended above the growing area. CheersSteve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
Re: [OGD] orchid as a city flower
Unfortunately, the info you provided, although interesting, did not deal with the questions asked : My contribution was more of a correction to Kevin's message rather than a response to yours. I tried every type of search I could using city flower and floral emblem as search criteria but couldn't come up with anything specific on the Chinese cities except maybe http://www.ccpit.org.cn/city/ which mentions orchid as Shaoxing's flower and has a pic of what looks to be a Cymbidium.. Perhaps 'orchid' is intended to be generic rather than specific. This could also be the case for Guiyang. Orchid is a common motif in Chinese art (like bamboo). The reference to orchids at http://www.shaoxing.gov.cn/en/Shaoxingambrosia/Shaoxingambrosia.htm might be helpful for further research but once again doesn't mention a particular city flower. Searching on Sogwipo came up with possibilities: the Hallan orchid, which is Cymbidium kanran (see http://www.fermata.co.kr/anti.htm#Sogwipo%20Natural%20Forest%20(Map3%20-%20C 7 in the Donneko Tourist site section) Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
Re: [OGD] RE: Vermiculite component in potting mix
I found the moisture absorbancy of vermiculite great for Paphs. The potting mix did not dry out so quickly and thus required watering at wider intervals Does vermiculite offer any advantages over perlite or are they essentially the same? Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
Re: [OGD] One more thought for Colin (and others)
From: Dr. Braem just one more thought: Look it's bad enough having to put up with the diatribe that has been occurring which is most often centered around one person on this list. Why do we then have to put up with further recrimination? It's simple - and it has been stated here many times: if you want to take it further, take it off the list. Can I suggest the following: for at least the remainder of this month, can we *only* discuss orchids. If anyone posts anything other than a question or comment or suggestion about orchids, then they should simply be ignored - nothing more or less. If you agree or disagree with this suggestion, please reply to me only. But more importantly, show your agreement by posting something useful. Cheers..Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
[OGD] Re: [OGD6, 35] Man Gets 21 Months for Smuggling Orchids
Sad news? A man pleads guilty to a breaking a federal law, throws himself at the mercy of the court and, according to the article, sentenced to the low end of the federal guidelines. Wouldn't that be good news? He imported a protected species and tried to cover it up. What would he have got if they decided to fully penalise him? ! Cheers...Steve PS Please let's not start another hackneyed argument about how unjust you think CITES laws are! * SAD NEWS: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=519ncid=519e=21u=/ap/2004 0727/ap_on_re_us/orchid_smuggling_1 ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
[OGD] Comments fro J. Arditti
I passed this message on to Dr. Arditti in case he wanted to comment, His reply is this: Be sure to tell them that keyhole lubricant graphite may not be pure. They must use chemical grade from a chemical supply house. If they use locksmith graphite they may run into trouble. Also may be darkening is not needed. Cheers...Steve -Original Message- From: greig russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 15 July 2004 7:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OGD] Re: Orchids Digest, Vol 6, Issue 284/6 As I remember, Graphite was used by Prof Joseph Arditti as a colourant for agar about 30+ years ago when he was working with antimicrobials in culture media which would have been trapped by charcoal. A good source of powdered graphite is puff lubricant for keyholes. regards, greig ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
RE: [OGD] Books on New Guinea Dendrobiums
Ron recent publication of books on New Guinea Dendrobiums orchids. No books dedicated to New Guinea Debdrobiums but there is a good CD ROM Orchids of New Guinea Vol II: Dendrobium and Allied Genera Cheers...Steve ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
