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[OT] My new monitor is unreadable
Folks, I just installed my fresh-out-of-the-box DELL U2711 LCD monitor which has a native resolution of 2560 x 1440. Unfortunately the screen is unreadable as everything looks squashed ... like when you shrink an image and lose information. The DELL is on the digital and my LG is on the VGA. I've installed the latest drivers for my GeForce GT 240 video card but it makes no difference. The specs of the GT 240 http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gt_240_us.html say it can go up to 2560 x 1600 on digital and 2048 x 1536 on VGA. I've fiddled with the monitor's controls but there isn't anything that looks helpful. I just don't know what to blame for the fault. This is my dream monitor and it's an instant nightmare. Any ideas anyone? Do I need a better video card? Thanks, Greg P.S. I stuck a photo of the problem here: (pardon the interlaced interference, but you can still see the squashed-up characters in Explorer) http://www.orthogonal.com.au/img/dellu2711-1.jpg
RE: OT: windows environment variables not working
Assuming that you're still having the problem recur after fixing it, a free utility that will discover all shell extensions on your system is System Info for Windows (SIW) - http://www.gtopala.com/ Autoruns.exe from sysinternals is also great for seeing all the secret stuff that's running. I use it to clean up after creating a new work machine -- Greg
Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable
I may be telling you to suck eggs, but have you tested with cleartype on/off? On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: Folks, I just installed my fresh-out-of-the-box DELL U2711 LCD monitor which has a native resolution of 2560 x 1440. Unfortunately the screen is unreadable as everything looks “squashed” ... like when you shrink an image and lose information. ** ** The DELL is on the digital and my LG is on the VGA. I’ve installed the latest drivers for my GeForce GT 240 video card but it makes no difference. The specs of the GT 240http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gt_240_us.htmlsay it can go up to 2560 x 1600 on digital and 2048 x 1536 on VGA. I’ve fiddled with the monitor’s controls but there isn’t anything that looks helpful. ** ** I just don’t know what to blame for the fault. This is my “dream monitor” and it’s an instant nightmare. Any ideas anyone? Do I need a better video card? ** ** Thanks, Greg ** ** P.S. I stuck a photo of the problem here: (pardon the interlaced interference, but you can still see the squashed-up characters in Explorer) ** ** http://www.orthogonal.com.au/img/dellu2711-1.jpg ** ** -- Geoff Appleby Blog: http://www.crankygoblin.com/geoff Twitter: http://twitter.com/g_appleby Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/geoff.appleby
RE: OT: windows environment variables not working (SOLVED)
I tried using the cable that came in the DELL box and it has made everything sharp and lovely. I noticed the cable has a different label on the end with fat embossed letters DUAL LINK. So there's a trap! Thank heavens lots of modern apps like VS2008, Internet Explorer, Word, Excel, etc recognise Ctrl + Mouse wheel to zoom in and out. The default appearance of most apps is crisp but tiny on the U2711. I think there's a lesson in this for people writing new apps to make sure users can adjust display settings easily. I'm certainly going to put extra effort into some new WPF apps I'm working on to allow rapid zoom of important screens, which is luckily quite easy thanks to transforms. Cheers, Greg
Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable
I have a bunch of these monitors - love them. The bandwidth required for the native resolution is HDMI/DVI. If you want to run the display at the native resolution you will need to use: 1. DisplayPort 2. Dual-Link DVI card and cable On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: Folks, I just installed my fresh-out-of-the-box DELL U2711 LCD monitor which has a native resolution of 2560 x 1440. Unfortunately the screen is unreadable as everything looks “squashed” ... like when you shrink an image and lose information. ** ** The DELL is on the digital and my LG is on the VGA. I’ve installed the latest drivers for my GeForce GT 240 video card but it makes no difference. The specs of the GT 240http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gt_240_us.htmlsay it can go up to 2560 x 1600 on digital and 2048 x 1536 on VGA. I’ve fiddled with the monitor’s controls but there isn’t anything that looks helpful. ** ** I just don’t know what to blame for the fault. This is my “dream monitor” and it’s an instant nightmare. Any ideas anyone? Do I need a better video card? ** ** Thanks, Greg ** ** P.S. I stuck a photo of the problem here: (pardon the interlaced interference, but you can still see the squashed-up characters in Explorer) ** ** http://www.orthogonal.com.au/img/dellu2711-1.jpg ** ** -- *David Connors* | da...@codify.com | www.codify.com Codify Pty Ltd Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact
Re: OT: windows environment variables not working (SOLVED)
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: I tried using the cable that came in the DELL box and it has made everything sharp and lovely. I noticed the cable has a different label on the end with fat embossed letters “DUAL LINK”. So there’s a trap! Thank heavens lots of modern apps like VS2008, Internet Explorer, Word, Excel, etc recognise Ctrl + Mouse wheel to zoom in and out. The default appearance of most apps is crisp but tiny on the U2711. I think there’s a lesson in this for people writing new apps to make sure users can adjust display settings easily. I’m certainly going to put extra effort into some new WPF apps I’m working on to allow rapid zoom of important screens, which is luckily quite easy thanks to transforms. Yes. Also, if your app remembers display settings, make sure it checks to see that a display is there when it starts up. EXAMPLE: I have 2 extra displays connected to a laptop. An app 'remembers' the location of dialogs as being on LH exterior display. Next time I start the app, it doesn't have any external displays, but still puts the dialog on the missing display. It's possible to move dialogs in this situation, but talking an inexperienced user through it is a waste of support's time. And don't put dialogs behind the app window. Or across joins in monitors. /rant -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills
Re: OT: windows environment variables not working (SOLVED)
Use display port if you can. That presents the audio sockets on the monitor to windows as audio in/out etc for your desktop speakers/headsets etc. DisplayPort is the best technology available for connecting a display (until we PC people get on the Thunderbolt bandwagon). On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: I tried using the cable that came in the DELL box and it has made everything sharp and lovely. I noticed the cable has a different label on the end with fat embossed letters “DUAL LINK”. So there’s a trap! ** ** Thank heavens lots of modern apps like VS2008, Internet Explorer, Word, Excel, etc recognise Ctrl + Mouse wheel to zoom in and out. The default appearance of most apps is crisp but tiny on the U2711. ** ** I think there’s a lesson in this for people writing new apps to make sure users can adjust display settings easily. I’m certainly going to put extra effort into some new WPF apps I’m working on to allow rapid zoom of important screens, which is luckily quite easy thanks to transforms. ** ** Cheers, Greg -- *David Connors* | da...@codify.com | www.codify.com Codify Pty Ltd Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact
RE: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable
Great resolution. Greg, what price does Dell sell this monitor, as single item buy? btw, you have hijacked Peter Madden's thread _ Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia
RE: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable
Wow – the first time in a long time that I’ve seen Australia better priced than the USA ($1000) for these things. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:40 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable Hovers around the 700 mark +/- 50 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Ian Thomas il.tho...@iinet.net.aumailto:il.tho...@iinet.net.au wrote: Great resolution. Greg, what price does Dell sell this monitor, as single item buy? btw, you have hijacked Peter Madden’s thread Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia -- David Connors | da...@codify.commailto:da...@codify.com | www.codify.comhttp://www.codify.com Codify Pty Ltd Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact
RE: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable
Maybe better quality shipments in the US of A? I've just looked at the dell oz website, and the 5 reviews of the screen. build quality is criticized (2 people). Not a good sample of sales, I'm sure - but it does alert one about possible 'mechanical' problems, independent of the panels and electronics. _ Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia _ From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Kean Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:48 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable Wow - the first time in a long time that I've seen Australia better priced than the USA ($1000) for these things. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:40 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable Hovers around the 700 mark +/- 50 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Ian Thomas il.tho...@iinet.net.au wrote: Great resolution. Greg, what price does Dell sell this monitor, as single item buy? btw, you have hijacked Peter Madden's thread _ Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia -- David Connors | mailto:da...@codify.com da...@codify.com | http://www.codify.com www.codify.com Codify Pty Ltd Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact https://www.codify.com/contact
Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable
I have two and a colleague has two with another on order at the moment - can't fault them at all from the 4 units we have at the moment + one more to come. On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Ian Thomas il.tho...@iinet.net.au wrote: ** ** ** ** Maybe better quality shipments in the US of A? I’ve just looked at the dell oz website, and the 5 reviews of the screen. build quality is criticized (2 people). Not a good sample of sales, I’m sure – but it does alert one about possible ‘mechanical’ problems, independent of the panels and electronics. ** ** -- **Ian Thomas** Victoria Park, Western Australia -- *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Kean *Sent:* Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:48 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* RE: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable ** ** Wow – the first time in a long time that I’ve seen **Australia** better priced than the USA ($1000) for these things. ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors *Sent:* Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:40 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable ** ** Hovers around the 700 mark +/- 50 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Ian Thomas il.tho...@iinet.net.au wrote: Great resolution. Greg, what price does Dell sell this monitor, as single item buy? btw, you have hijacked Peter Madden’s thread -- Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia ** ** -- *David Connors* | da...@codify.com | www.codify.com Codify Pty Ltd Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact -- *David Connors* | da...@codify.com | www.codify.com Codify Pty Ltd Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact
RE: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable
I purchased the HP ZR30w - lovely monitor, although I am on the second one (the first one had a defect where it would flicker). I only purchased this end of last year, but I paid over $1300US at the time. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:59 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable Maybe better quality shipments in the US of A? I've just looked at the dell oz website, and the 5 reviews of the screen. build quality is criticized (2 people). Not a good sample of sales, I'm sure - but it does alert one about possible 'mechanical' problems, independent of the panels and electronics. Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]mailto:[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Kean Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:48 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable Wow - the first time in a long time that I've seen Australia better priced than the USA ($1000) for these things. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]mailto:[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:40 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable Hovers around the 700 mark +/- 50 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Ian Thomas il.tho...@iinet.net.aumailto:il.tho...@iinet.net.au wrote: Great resolution. Greg, what price does Dell sell this monitor, as single item buy? btw, you have hijacked Peter Madden's thread Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia -- David Connors | da...@codify.commailto:da...@codify.com | www.codify.comhttp://www.codify.com Codify Pty Ltd Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact
Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable
U3011 is $1600 bucks which means probably 1400 or less through your account rep. I would love them but it starts getting a bit exe when you're putting them at work, home, and remote customer sites where you work. :) On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:07 PM, David Kean david.k...@microsoft.comwrote: I purchased the HP ZR30w – lovely monitor, although I am on the second one (the first one had a defect where it would flicker). I only purchased this end of last year, but I paid over $1300US at the time. ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Ian Thomas *Sent:* Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:59 PM *To:* 'ozDotNet' *Subject:* RE: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable ** ** Maybe better quality shipments in the US of A? I’ve just looked at the dell oz website, and the 5 reviews of the screen. build quality is criticized (2 people). Not a good sample of sales, I’m sure – but it does alert one about possible ‘mechanical’ problems, independent of the panels and electronics. ** ** -- **Ian Thomas** Victoria Park, Western Australia -- *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Kean *Sent:* Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:48 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* RE: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable ** ** Wow – the first time in a long time that I’ve seen Australia better priced than the USA ($1000) for these things. ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors *Sent:* Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:40 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable ** ** Hovers around the 700 mark +/- 50 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Ian Thomas il.tho...@iinet.net.au wrote: Great resolution. Greg, what price does Dell sell this monitor, as single item buy? btw, you have hijacked Peter Madden’s thread -- Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia ** ** -- *David Connors* | da...@codify.com | www.codify.com Codify Pty Ltd Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact -- *David Connors* | da...@codify.com | www.codify.com Codify Pty Ltd Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact
Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable
David Kean wrote: I purchased the HP ZR30w – lovely monitor, although I am on the second one (the first one had a defect where it would flicker). I only purchased this end of last year, but I paid over $1300US at the time. Just had a quick look @ pricing, and FYI: US$849 http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=uscs=04l=ens=bsdsku=224-8284redirect=1 AU$719 http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=aul=ens=dhscs=audhs1sku=210-31399~ck=bncat~bk=gr:CategoryRec_Default,g:RecentPopular,rk: -- Les Hughes l...@datarev.com.au
RE: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable
Damn they dropped quickly. Now if I just convince the other half around getting another 2... -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Les Hughes Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:17 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable David Kean wrote: I purchased the HP ZR30w - lovely monitor, although I am on the second one (the first one had a defect where it would flicker). I only purchased this end of last year, but I paid over $1300US at the time. Just had a quick look @ pricing, and FYI: US$849 http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=uscs=04l=ens=bsdsku=224-8284redirect=1 AU$719 http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=aul=ens=dhscs=audhs1sku=210-31399~ck=bncat~bk=gr:CategoryRec_Default,g:RecentPopular,rk: -- Les Hughes l...@datarev.com.au
Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable
It's nice to finally see some monitors like this on the market. I've got a 30 Samsung at home 2560x1600 and at work I've got 2 x 17 monitors (plus the laptop screen). Had monitors on order since I started here 3 months ago and still don't have them. Internal ordering nightmare. Tempted to go and buy one of these for myself to use at work. Sick of all those crappy resolution monitors that do max height of 1080p. Don't want! The 2560xanything res monitors have to have a graphics card that can do dual-dvi. (or hdmi) output. Otherwise you can only get the 1920x1200 rez. its a bandwidth thing of the graphics card. Might be the issue you are getting Greg. What rez is it actually giving you? Is it the max of the monitor, or the max of the graphics card? If its not the native rez of the monitor then it will look crap. On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:22 AM, David Kean david.k...@microsoft.comwrote: Damn they dropped quickly. Now if I just convince the other half around getting another 2... -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Les Hughes Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:17 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable David Kean wrote: I purchased the HP ZR30w - lovely monitor, although I am on the second one (the first one had a defect where it would flicker). I only purchased this end of last year, but I paid over $1300US at the time. Just had a quick look @ pricing, and FYI: US$849 http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=uscs=04l=ens=bsdsku=224-8284redirect=1 AU$719 http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=aul=ens=dhscs=audhs1sku=210-31399~ck=bncat~bk=gr:CategoryRec_Default,g:RecentPopular,rk : -- Les Hughes l...@datarev.com.au
Re: OT: windows environment variables not working (SOLVED)
Ah cool, I see you sorted your issue Greg. :) Must order one of these for work. Wonder if my laptop can drive dual link... its a Latitude E6420. Not a bad laptop, I guess. Work supplied. David, don't you have one of these? Have you used the monitor Greg has on it? On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:04 AM, David Connors da...@codify.com wrote: Use display port if you can. That presents the audio sockets on the monitor to windows as audio in/out etc for your desktop speakers/headsets etc. DisplayPort is the best technology available for connecting a display (until we PC people get on the Thunderbolt bandwagon). On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: I tried using the cable that came in the DELL box and it has made everything sharp and lovely. I noticed the cable has a different label on the end with fat embossed letters “DUAL LINK”. So there’s a trap! ** ** Thank heavens lots of modern apps like VS2008, Internet Explorer, Word, Excel, etc recognise Ctrl + Mouse wheel to zoom in and out. The default appearance of most apps is crisp but tiny on the U2711. ** ** I think there’s a lesson in this for people writing new apps to make sure users can adjust display settings easily. I’m certainly going to put extra effort into some new WPF apps I’m working on to allow rapid zoom of important screens, which is luckily quite easy thanks to transforms. ** ** Cheers, Greg -- *David Connors* | da...@codify.com | www.codify.com Codify Pty Ltd Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact
Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable
David Connors wrote: U3011 is $1600 bucks which means probably 1400 or less through your account rep. I would love them but it starts getting a bit exe when you're putting them at work, home, and remote customer sites where you work. :) Yep. I've got 2 x 24 (1080) at one client site, and using them after the 27 feels like I'm programming on a mobile phone (well... not quite). I find the 27 to be pretty darn big, and I fear that the 30 would be too much. Any word on that? Stephen Price wrote: and at work I've got 2 x 17 monitors (plus the laptop screen). Had monitors on order since I started here 3 months ago and still don't have them. Internal ordering nightmare. ಠ_ಠ Government? I don't want to play a game of first world problems but from a productivity point of view over 3 months, dropping even $500 on 2 x 24 would make a world of difference. Getting 2 x Dell 27 would also be a cheap option. Oh the humanity! -- Les Hughes l...@datarev.com.au
RE: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable
On Behalf Of David Connors I have two and a colleague has two with another on order at the moment - can't fault them at all from the 4 units we have at the moment + one more to come. The complaints @ the Dell AU site were that the screen was not horizontal, and needed to be propped with a CD cover on one side. The first complainant thought an adjustment might be made - not so, Dell replaced it (with a used one). _ Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia
Re: OT: windows environment variables not working (SOLVED)
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.comwrote: Must order one of these for work. Wonder if my laptop can drive dual link... its a Latitude E6420. Not a bad laptop, I guess. Work supplied. David, don't you have one of these? Have you used the monitor Greg has on it? I had an E6500 but moved to a Precision M4600 a couple of months ago. All E-series have a DisplayPort port on the laptop so you're good to go at that res. using DP Any of the E-series or Precision can use the E-Port plus port replicator. It has 2 x DVI and DisplayPort on it however I am pretty sure the DVI ports are NOT dual link. David. On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:04 AM, David Connors da...@codify.com wrote: Use display port if you can. That presents the audio sockets on the monitor to windows as audio in/out etc for your desktop speakers/headsets etc. DisplayPort is the best technology available for connecting a display (until we PC people get on the Thunderbolt bandwagon). On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: I tried using the cable that came in the DELL box and it has made everything sharp and lovely. I noticed the cable has a different label on the end with fat embossed letters “DUAL LINK”. So there’s a trap! ** ** Thank heavens lots of modern apps like VS2008, Internet Explorer, Word, Excel, etc recognise Ctrl + Mouse wheel to zoom in and out. The default appearance of most apps is crisp but tiny on the U2711. ** ** I think there’s a lesson in this for people writing new apps to make sure users can adjust display settings easily. I’m certainly going to put extra effort into some new WPF apps I’m working on to allow rapid zoom of important screens, which is luckily quite easy thanks to transforms. ** ** Cheers, Greg -- *David Connors* | da...@codify.com | www.codify.com Codify Pty Ltd Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact -- *David Connors* | da...@codify.com | www.codify.com Codify Pty Ltd Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact
Re: New look of Visual Studio, what are your thoughts?
The first thing that I do when I install VS2010 on a new PC these days is install the Color Theme Editor extension and leach all of the saturation out of the IDE colors (making them all shades of grey). I then turn off all of the tool bars. If you're going to do something enough that hunting in the menus is painful, learn the shortcuts for it. Both of these things minimize the noise in the IDE and let me concentrate on the thing that's important: the code. Couple that with R# for navigation and I can close most of the docked windows as well. Having said that, I'm not convinced on the new look. I haven't really spent a bunch of time with it so it might grow on me or I may just turn most of it off and not notice. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:12 AM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.comwrote: I'm not onboard with Ribbon for VS :) The Ribbon is such a cliche now. --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:13 AM, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.comwrote: OMG I forgot about the ribbon. I want a ribbon. *runs* On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 6:17 PM, David Rhys Jones djones...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I read Scott's blog, and then went back to the Microsoft blog to take a second look. *Things that I use a lot that are missing.* Solution Explorer, Properties and Macro Explorer icons in the tool-bar. *Toolbar changes.* [image: Inline image 1] *Comment / Uncomment . * I use CTRL+K C / CTRL+K U , so no problem there. *New Project. * Never use it from there, always do it from the solution explorer. *File Open.* Always click this Icon, it's the same in Word, Excel, Sql Server Management basically all windows applications. not looking for the biggest splodge of yellow on the screen will be annoying *Save* Ctrl+S or CTRL+SHIFT+S *Find In Files, * Always use, because it's next to the quick find, if quick find doesn't work I click the little icon next to it and try again. except. in 2011, it's completely in the wrong place. *Bookmarks* Ctrl + K + K, Ctrl + K + N , CTRL + K + P Overall, it won't effect me too much, except when I do support, (searching in files, and opening source files). * A quick glance at the Solution Explorer window* [image: Inline image 2] There are Six icons there, Back, Forward, Home?, Cascade Windows?, synchronize views?, Find in Files (white) ? and Settings? In VS you have Properties, Show Hidden Files, Refresh,, view code, (view designer), Class Diagram. I'm not sure how those match up in the new Visual studio, but switching between versions is going to be a major pain in the arse. * Properties Box* The 2010 version looks much better than the 2011 version, the tabs are well separated and the highlighted tab is clear that it's a part of the form on the right. The 2011 version looks disassociated. On my machine, (XP 32bit) I have. VS2005 VS2008 VS2010 Sql Server Management 2008 Office 2003 The company I work for will not upgrade to the Ribbon version of office, because of all the support calls it would generate. So I have to do VSTO projects in 2008, I have an app that won't upgrade (.xsd files) to 2005 or 2010. And we are currently doing desktop UI application in .net 4.0. In any one week I will have used all three version of VS, and accessed a number of different DB's some with auto-completion some without, all using the same UI. Please provide a Classic Skin as well. to emulate the VS2010 icons so the switching will not be as shocking. Davy, The US Congress voted Pizza sauce a vegetable. Don't even try to convince me of anything in the states is sane any more! On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 6:47 AM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.comwrote: I've also done a blog post decoding the grey into more finite principles, ie i dont like grey.. isn't enough, so i've made a feeble attempt to decode the problem with flat grey vs depth based grey. Decoding the use of grey in Visual Studio vNext http://www.riagenic.com/archives/858 --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com
Re: OT: windows environment variables not working (SOLVED)
Ah, not sure on the model of port replicator I have here, but checked and it has two DVI's and under that two dual mode displayports (according to the logo next to it) so by the sounds of it, if I get one of these monitors I'll be good to go (using dusplay port most likely). Sweeet. :) Thanks! The wife won't be overjoyed, despite it providing me great happiness, but she'll learn to cope. ;) More happiness == more overtime == more money. On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:03 PM, David Connors da...@codify.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.comwrote: Must order one of these for work. Wonder if my laptop can drive dual link... its a Latitude E6420. Not a bad laptop, I guess. Work supplied. David, don't you have one of these? Have you used the monitor Greg has on it? I had an E6500 but moved to a Precision M4600 a couple of months ago. All E-series have a DisplayPort port on the laptop so you're good to go at that res. using DP Any of the E-series or Precision can use the E-Port plus port replicator. It has 2 x DVI and DisplayPort on it however I am pretty sure the DVI ports are NOT dual link. David. On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:04 AM, David Connors da...@codify.com wrote: Use display port if you can. That presents the audio sockets on the monitor to windows as audio in/out etc for your desktop speakers/headsets etc. DisplayPort is the best technology available for connecting a display (until we PC people get on the Thunderbolt bandwagon). On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: I tried using the cable that came in the DELL box and it has made everything sharp and lovely. I noticed the cable has a different label on the end with fat embossed letters “DUAL LINK”. So there’s a trap! ** ** Thank heavens lots of modern apps like VS2008, Internet Explorer, Word, Excel, etc recognise Ctrl + Mouse wheel to zoom in and out. The default appearance of most apps is crisp but tiny on the U2711. ** ** I think there’s a lesson in this for people writing new apps to make sure users can adjust display settings easily. I’m certainly going to put extra effort into some new WPF apps I’m working on to allow rapid zoom of important screens, which is luckily quite easy thanks to transforms.*** * ** ** Cheers, Greg -- *David Connors* | da...@codify.com | www.codify.com Codify Pty Ltd Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact -- *David Connors* | da...@codify.com | www.codify.com Codify Pty Ltd Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact
RE: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable
HDMI v1.3 supports 2560x1600 IIRC – older versions are limited to 1900x1200 (or similar) Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Thursday, 15 March 2012 12:00 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.commailto:step...@perthprojects.com wrote: The 2560xanything res monitors have to have a graphics card that can do dual-dvi. (or hdmi) output. Dual-Link DVI != Dual DVI ports also HDMI does not have the bandwidth. Otherwise you can only get the 1920x1200 rez. its a bandwidth thing of the graphics card. The bandwidth limitation is the display interconnect. Best bet for today is DisplayPort or Thunderbolt (the latter uses DisplayPort for display signalling anyway AFAIK) On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:22 AM, David Kean david.k...@microsoft.commailto:david.k...@microsoft.com wrote: Damn they dropped quickly. Now if I just convince the other half around getting another 2... -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Les Hughes Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:17 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable David Kean wrote: I purchased the HP ZR30w - lovely monitor, although I am on the second one (the first one had a defect where it would flicker). I only purchased this end of last year, but I paid over $1300US at the time.
Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable
Our company bought the monitor (U2711) from Dell's website in Australia and we found an online discount code which took about $250 off. Monitor is about 1.5 years old and was originally about $950 but we paid around $700 for it. Also think that RACV membership gives you a discount from DELL as well... On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: HDMI v1.3 supports 2560x1600 IIRC – older versions are limited to 1900x1200 (or similar) ** ** Cheers Ken ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors *Sent:* Thursday, 15 March 2012 12:00 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable ** ** On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: The 2560xanything res monitors have to have a graphics card that can do dual-dvi. (or hdmi) output. ** ** Dual-Link DVI != Dual DVI ports also HDMI does not have the bandwidth. Otherwise you can only get the 1920x1200 rez. its a bandwidth thing of the graphics card. ** ** The bandwidth limitation is the display interconnect. ** ** Best bet for today is DisplayPort or Thunderbolt (the latter uses DisplayPort for display signalling anyway AFAIK) ** ** On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:22 AM, David Kean david.k...@microsoft.com wrote: Damn they dropped quickly. Now if I just convince the other half around getting another 2... -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Les Hughes Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:17 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable David Kean wrote: I purchased the HP ZR30w - lovely monitor, although I am on the second one (the first one had a defect where it would flicker). I only purchased this end of last year, but I paid over $1300US at the time. ** **
Re: New look of Visual Studio, what are your thoughts?
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Michael Minutillo michael.minuti...@gmail.com wrote: The first thing that I do when I install VS2010 on a new PC these days is install the Color Theme Editor extension and leach all of the saturation out of the IDE colors (making them all shades of grey). I then turn off all of the tool bars. If you're going to do something enough that hunting in the menus is painful, learn the shortcuts for it. Both of these things minimize the noise in the IDE and let me concentrate on the thing that's important: the code. Couple that with R# for navigation and I can close most of the docked windows as well. Having said that, I'm not convinced on the new look. I haven't really spent a bunch of time with it so it might grow on me or I may just turn most of it off and not notice. Then again, I could go back to Wordstar shortcuts. Even after all this time, I remember a lot of them. -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills
