Re: [ozmidwifery] medication question
Sue try "medication and mothers milk" by Tom Hale, it should be in any maternity unit or Mothersafe 02 93826539 or 1800 647 848 ABA have a great booklet, very new and co written with PANDA about PND. It has a table of common medication groups and also a pro/con of feeding and meds. Thicker than their usual booklet, All for $5.00 Louise [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---Original Message--- From: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Date: 10/19/06 23:29:48 To: midwifery list Subject: [ozmidwifery] medication question Dear List-wives I have a new mum who normally takes Dexamphetamine for ADD (adult) and whose baby was quite growth retarded, probably as a result but no-one is saying that for sure. She has been off meds for a few weeks and is breast feeding her little bub, really wants to continue but is not doing too well off the meds and is getting quite scared of a repeat of PND that she had last time. Mimms wasn't greatly helpful apart from discouraging use in lactation and pregnancy - but as she had been using it in pregnancy anyway Do any of you have knowledge or experience of this med and effects in B/F? TIA Sue
[ozmidwifery] rural nsw
HelloJustine, I'll just say part of the same area health as you! When I've got more energy I'll email you and get some more info on MC. I think there were some local women who joined up, but they wanted more postnatal care family care cottage stuff, didn't care about 1-2-1 midwifery care. The clinical midwifery consultant said when I spoke to her, it had to come from the women wanting midwifery care, basically not to bother trying. Most think it's great going to a doc, and not having to pay big prices like their city sisters. But they pay more than an antenatal clinic! Noone bulk bills in town, even though we're a low socio economic area. Sometimes I wish (work wise) I was still in the city - with antenatal clinics, midwifery run units, mid consultants, outpatient units etc etc How do you all stay sane ? Louise rural NSW [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fw: Re: [ozmidwifery] rural nsw
Justine - warrier princess! Sprung we had a review done tooas part of reasonable workloads, actually it was done by the assessors of Newcastle's choosing - but they're still ignoring it! Do you have a copy? It doesn't make us sound too good I'm sorry to say Rural areas always left out of the loop. We're not even on the HNE maternity booking in form "intended hospital of birth"!!! chocolate and bed Louise [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---Original Message--- From: Justine Caines Date: 10/16/06 20:51:19 To: Grant and Louise McLeod Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] rural nsw Hey LouiseHow do I stay sane. At times it is difficult. But I have experienced the amazing life transforming care of 1-2-1 midwifery.Without my huge story it changed me from a damaged woman to Xena Warrior type. I can do anything (well guess you need that approach in this line of work!!)Hey we are out there so you need to fess up as to where you are. I am guessing Taree!!We can turn the post natal stuff around, PN is SO important and so lacking. We just need to work together cause HNEAHS is covered with MC (and with Terry Clout at the helm it needs to be!!) Am meeting with him again in Nov.Last week all the Obs at Muswellbrook resigned as a midwife had been consulted to do a review of services art MBk and Scone. They would only rescind their resos if she left, she lasted 40 hrs.A hard week last week. But I think these boys need some media attention to knock some sense into them!Kind regardsJustine
Re: [ozmidwifery] asthma in labour
Same here Suzi, except no registrar!!! change dates at every prenatalvisit booked C/S at 37-38 weeks and when bub choppers out, It wasn't the C/S!! Really No midwifery input during pregnancy (except if you're Aboriginal) Shocked newcomers to town. What no midwives clinic? Not even a hospital antenatal clinic? Where do I get care!? My GP? but they're not even dip OB? Not even accredited with the hospital?Can't I see a midwife? some days I just want to give up but I need to pay the mortgage Louise rural NSW [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---Original Message--- From: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Date: 10/16/06 11:09:54 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] asthma in labour Just to confuse the issue...Last week a woman experienced hypertonic uterus after induction by PG gels. There was a heated debate about the use of inhalation ventolin - one dr saying it only acts locally (in the lungs) according the evidence when inhaled. The other arguing she uses successfully prior to ECV's. The woman had five puffs and thecontractions slowed down to3 in 10. Ah its a pleasure working in a rural hsp where most the doctors couldn't give a fig for keeping abreast of latest research. NOT. and very confusing for the committed registrars trying to learn from them. As for the women - they are kept way out of the argument - sadly like lambs to the slaughter. Also very hard to entice them to join the midwives chorus to establish midwifery models of care it seems. Only the few families who have lived and birthed in other areas before know what they are missing out on. Suzi - Original Message - From: michelle gascoigne To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 11:38 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] asthma in labour Tia My Pharmacology for midwives makes no mention of this. However, as a young student midwife I do remember one obs. used to use bronchodilators something like 5 puffs one after the other to ' relax the cervix' to help in removal of retained placentas. To be honest it is too long ago for me to remember how effective this was. Shelly (Midwife England) - Original Message - From: Janet Fraser To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 11:28 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] asthma in labour Hi all, can bronchodilators, particularly ventolin, for severe asthmacause labour to slow or stall? Would it's action of relaxing smooth muscle have this effect on the uterus or is an inhaled drug (even in strong doses) too little entering the bloodstream for an effect? TIA. J For home birth information go to:Joyous Birth Australian home birth network and forums.http://www.joyousbirth.info/Or email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.12.12/461 - Release Date: 02/10/2006
RE: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions
I'm not that old ! early 40something but when I did midi we called it the "rest and be thankful stage". It seemed to go out of fashion! with "quick get the synto up". Now women ( if they're not private and have a doctor hovering) againhave that littlerest and then get on with it. Louise rural NSW [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---Original Message--- From: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Date: 10/06/06 09:02:53 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions Mary M said: "I am old enough to remember doctors saying "turn her on her side and give her a rest, Sis", in a time when IV fluids, synto drip and epidurals were available but not used so aggressively." Wow, doctors actually said that...you must be joshing us Mary!! In our place the synto would be waved around -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] New South Wales Health Booklet on Breastfeeding
I'll second that Barb... Actually (But I don't have it in front of me) I think the NSW Health BF Policy - which is mandatory to comply with - states professionally presentedbrochures and booklet must be used. WithABA's BF Confidence and Breastfeeding While Naturaland the new BF booklet and Starting Family Foods brochure free from Health, why reinvent the wheel? Louise rural NSW [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---Original Message--- From: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Date: 09/22/06 18:08:01 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] New South Wales Health Booklet on Breastfeeding Hi, Please don't make up breastfeeding packages from photocopied info etc. As midwives, your time is waaay too precious. The Australian Breastfeeding Association has great information that is so cheap it's sinful. And it's well-researched, up to date, well written etc and beautifully presented. Most hospitals buy in bulk things like "breastfeeding confidence" (a small multi-page and extremely comprehensive booklet) and tip cards - 75c for 25 tip cards. I have heard people say they are going to photocopy those- for the price it's not worth even standing in front of the photocopier The Australian Breastfeeding Association'sshop is www.mothersdirect.com.au There's a good section on handout literature in the "Health Professionals" section. Barb - Original Message - From: diane To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] New South Wales Health Booklet on Breastfeeding Its Great. I have been soo waiting for this to come out as where I work we have been making up 'breasfeeding packages' with most of this info and fact sheets etc for over a year. It is very time consuming. Now this is out we can just give them the booklet! We also have a breasfeeding discussion sheet that mums fill out on their knowledge and learning needs, a BF risk assessment form (breast exam, any surgery etc) an an antenatal discussion list to attend at visits, that we have developed. Seems to be working well when we have the time to attend to them. Cheers, Di - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] New South Wales Health Booklet on Breastfeeding looks great! Pinky - Original Message - From: Barbara Glare Chris Bright To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 7:49 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] New South Wales Health Booklet on Breastfeeding HI, Very impressive http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/pubs/2006/pdf/breastfeeding_booklet.pdf Barb GlareMum of Zac, 12, Daniel, 10, Cassie 7 Guan 3Counsellor, Warrnambool Vic[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Ph (03) 5565 8602Director, Australian Breastfeeding AssociationMothers Directwww.mothersdirect.com.au
Re: [ozmidwifery] lactation consultant query
Michelle, there isn't one LC course -you don't necessarily need to do one to be an IBCLC you just have to qualify and sit the exam. A few friends of mine just swatted big time. I did a short course, some packages etc. APLES based in Sydney, also do 2 day catch ups there is one through correspondence from Adelaide- will have to find my notes to remember the name Lactation Resource Centre have packages ( professional arm of ABA) Health E Learning is great, internet based I didn't find that over 5 years it was too hard to get 75 cerps/ 15 a year, but I'm packing it thinking about resitting in 2009! Then again one friend just resat instead of collecting cerps - awaiting results. each to their own. Most LC's I know who have let their qualifications go have done it at 10. If you're in NSW you can use it as a qualification allowance (or whatever it's called) Louise rural NSW Grant, Louise and Katy [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---Original Message--- From: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Date: 09/22/06 16:53:06 To: Ozmidwifery Subject: [ozmidwifery] lactation consultant query Hi, Am posting again as the first one didn't seem to come through.I'm thinking of doing the LC course, but have noticed (in my travels) that lots of LC's let their qualification lapse when the 5 years is up. Just wondering if anyone can shed some light on this is it the money? or too hard to attend BF conferences etc? I'd also be interested in which courses people found to be good. The Health e-learning has been recommended to me. Thanks Michelle On Yahoo!7Messenger: Make free PC-to-PC calls to your friends overseas.
RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article
This is my first post for a long time so don't eat me alive! I agree with Kelly as the woman has to have a nvbit may help our cause to decrease LSCS and IOL? Also - as much as we would like all women to have 1-2-1 midwifery care ( sheesh where I work we have no ante natal clinic, no midwifery input till labour and the GP's doing care don't have dip OB- another story another time), it isn't happening now and these women have been scared into PHI by the gov't (and other interest groups) and are using it. All our lobbying isn't going to help this woman now , it will help others down the track. Yes home would be better, and 'get on with it', but they would've stayed another few nights in hospital anyway, maybe transferring to hotel - with partner and rest of family is a compromise, you know - get fed/don't have to clean,and lactation and parentcraft guidance with partner there to help too. Isn't having dad there more like the real world than a hospital room without him but with (insert number!)other mums and bubs? just my thoughts Louise rural NSW ---Original Message--- From: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Date: 09/19/06 21:32:02 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article To try and extract any good of this though, I wonder, if it will encourage more women to aim for normal vaginal births - as per the article, only those who do will be allowed to use the program. Best Regards,Kelly ZanteyCreator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to ParenthoodBellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Megan LarrySent: Tuesday, 19 September 2006 1:21 PMTo: ozmidwiferySubject: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article Bliss at the 5-star maternity hotel MICHAEL OWEN September 19, 2006 12:15am Article from: http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au/?from=ni_storyhttp THE state's first maternity ward in a luxury hotel will open early next month. The Hilton Adelaide has finalised a deal with Ashford Private Hospital to provide up to eight "deluxe-plus" rooms for new mothers recovering from childbirth. Called "Baby Bliss", the maternity hotel service program will start from October 3, with final Health Department approval expected within the next week. Ashford Hospital and the Hilton say public interest in the scheme has been "amazing" since it was first floated in July., The program, already in operation in two private hospitals in Melbourne, aims to cut costs and free up hospital beds. It has won the backing of private health fund Mutual Community and national mother advocacy group Mother Inc. Midwives will stay in a wing of the Hilton dedicated to new mums and provide around-the-clock care and advice, while obstetricians will continue to oversee care during hotel stays. Partners and siblings of new mums will be able to stay at the hotel free. Alan Lane, chief executive of hospital operations for the Adelaide Community Healthcare Alliance, which owns Ashford Hospital, said the option would only be available to women who had a normal vaginal delivery at the hospital. Mother and baby would be transferred to the Hilton two days after giving birth. "Mother and baby remain patients of Ashford Hospital and the responsibility of its medical and nursing teams," Mr Lane said. The option to stay at the hotel for two nights is included in the obstetrics cover provided by the patient's private health fund. Insurance broker Jenny Lynch, 33, is due to give birth to her first child in February. "I really like the idea of not being in that sterile hospital environment after I've had my baby - a luxury hotel room and a bit of pampering sounds like a pretty good way to relax after childbirth," Ms Lynch said yesterday.
[ozmidwifery] alca
Kelly, I would say that is a membership list for alca. You could try www.iblce.edu .au for a list of ibclc's. I'm an lc and not a member of alca ( maybe next year I keep saying, midwives assn, nurses assn, aba.) costs too much!!! Louise in the countryside [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ozmidwifery] Stillbirth memory ideas
Black and white photos look really nice, some taken with all the family together Louise in the countryside ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11/26/04 08:58:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Stillbirth memory ideas
[ozmidwifery] follow through programme
I'd like to second Tina's comments re follow through. It was the best part of my midi (1988) following through "my" 4 ladies, and at the moment I am a "follow through lady" myself (or longitudinal case study!) for a lovelymidi student. It is great to have someone there with me at all my visits. I just hope I don't birth while she's away at residential school. LOUISE [EMAIL PROTECTED] IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
[ozmidwifery] australian story
Vanessa's first birth was a C/section too. Was that safe? LOUISE [EMAIL PROTECTED] IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding web site
? www.breasted.com.au LOUISE [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, 30 October 2002 05:41:50 PM To: Ozmidwifery \(E-mail\) Subject: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding web site Hi, can anyone help me? I am looking for a breastfeeding information website that is entitled BSMed or something like that. Has anyone heard ofit??? Cheers, Julia M.--This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics.Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.. IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
Re: [ozmidwifery] ImpactOf Loosing LaylaSequel
I thought Layla was born by LSCS anyway? So how could someone think it is the safe option, both children born LSCS, one died one didn't. Mec Asp can occur in any kind of birth. LOUISE [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, 07 October 2002 10:01:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] ImpactOf Loosing LaylaSequel Dear Deb The story which is in the current Women's WEEKLY covering both the laylas birth and up to this child deals superficially with the pregnancies more about the relationship of Vanessa and her aprtners, and for me says C/S is safe no discussion of the pros or cons. And yes I understand the anxieties tho I personally have not been there and I make no judgements other than the lack of discuussion and presentation of C/s as safe! I agree about the impact of loosing Layla as something to stimulate discussion of issues which this is. Denise - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 3:24 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] ImpactOf Loosing LaylaSequel In a message dated 10/7/02 9:21:49 AM W. Australia Standard Time, Denise writes: I am concerned at one of the strong messages of the forthcoming LoosingLayla Sequel= having an elective C/S is safe and sure to have a live baby!??We know it is not but there is nothing out in the media to counter thisargument, idea, in fact we have noted and argued about other mainstreamprograms which have said this but here it is again!! Here it is again!!This is a difficult one this isn't it - because it's bound up with the awful past experience that will affect the parents' rational thinking process.Our second died at birth (although not because of anything to do with his birth). nevertheless, when I was pregnant again, despite all my best endeavours, I know that the choices I made during the subsequent pregnancies were influenced by what had gone before. When my third son developed problems and had intrauterine surgery, I was convinced that he would be born by section. However, the OB and paediatrician both convinced me that a vaginal birth would be better - and that was how he was born. The point I'm trying to make is that because of my highly emotional state during the subsequent pregnancy, any decision that I made was entirely rational.It is unfortunate that - on the face of it - yes, one message that may come through is that somehow a section means a live baby. However, this is one story of how parents come to terms with a subsequent pregnancy and birth and with it - all the dilemmas, decisions and choices that have to be made. As yet we don't how the decision to have an elective was made - and I await the sequel with real interest.Personally speaking, I thought Losing Layla was an important film in trying to show just what parents go through at such a devastating period. I hope that the sequel will be as equally important in showing what it is like to go through pregnancy again - something which I found many people found it difficult to comprehend. Debbie SlaterPerth, WA IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
RE: [ozmidwifery] Tramadol
According to Tom Hale's Medications and Mothers Milk (the guru) tramadol has no pediatric concerns via breast milk, observe for sedation. It isn't contraindicated. We use it occasionally in oral form when a mum is allergic to codeine post LSCS. He doesn't give a particularly good rap to pethidine - sedation, poor suckling reflex, neurobehavioural delay. It may be something to consider seeing you have pharmacy support. At the moment we use either pethidine topups of the epidural or pethidine or morphine PCA's post LSCS, combined with REGULAR paracetamol and voltaren round the clock. A few are starting to have either epidural or spinal morphine in theatre which lasts 24 hours, and the women seem really comfortable (again with regular panadol and voltaren). Morphine doesn't seem to cause as many problems with the babies, probably because of it's poor oral bioavailability. Hope this helps LOUISE [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, 06 October 2002 09:35:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Tramadol Dear Vance and Edwina,I do not know about Tramadol in labour but I do know that it is contraindicaed if you are breast feeding.Love LinaFrom: "Vance Edwina" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] TramadolDate: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 19:51:51 +0930Hi Lisa,Did you ever find out more about Tramadol - I would be interested tohear the outcome.Cheers, Edwina (midwife mother, SA)-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of LisaSent: Thursday, 12 September 2002 12:06 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ozmidwifery] TramadolHiThe anaesthetic dept. at the hospital where I work has asked thepharmacy to look at removing pethidine from the formulary for bothgeneral and maternity clients (mainly because of adverse side-effects).They suggest that tramadol is a safer alternative and that a "number ofpublished studies" have shown that;* it is safe and effective in labour and birth* it doesnt cause respiratory depression in mother or baby* it has no adverse effect on: - length of labour - incidence of instrumental birth - neonatal outcomeI have not read these studies. I am interested in hearing a discussionaround the use of this drug and where other hospitals around the countryare at in terms of using both pethidine or tramadol in labour.Lisa_Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com--This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics.Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.. IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
Re: [ozmidwifery] fdiu at 39 weeks
In NSW, SIDS and SANDS are a combined organisation since about 1999/2000. This is due in large to the decrease in number of SIDS. See their site. LOUISE [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, 27 August 2002 12:24:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] fdiu at 39 weeks Dear JanIf you are looking for external support networks for this woman, SANDS areTHE best and most appropriate resource for this woman. Their network hasbeen designed specifically for women with this type of loss, SIDS arestarting to dabble in all types of child loss and although they can do agreat deal for parents who lose infants to SIDS, I doubt their effectivenessin this situation.SANDS councellors (who have all experienced similar loss) are able to bewith this woman and her family for as long as they need them. They in factprefer to come in prior to birth in this situation as this assists in theestablishment of the support network which will be so important afterwardsas the family works its way through the grief process.If you are looking for contacts in the south eastern suburbs please give mea callRegardsAlesaAlesa KoziolClinical Midwifery EducatorMelbourne--This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics.Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.. IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
Re: [ozmidwifery] C/S Rates
In NSW the annual Mothers and Babies Report is available on the government website. It makes very interesting reading, not just C/S rates, but inductions, spontaneous labour rates, 3rd degree tears, agesetc. LOUISE [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, 19 August 2002 12:00:12 PM To: Oz midwifery (E-mail) Subject: [ozmidwifery] C/S Rates Dear all,Is there any way in which a state's Private Hospitals Caesarean Section rate can be accessed legitimately. I recall that Marsden Wagner's visit in the 90's caused a stir because he was able to access this information and report it. Has this changed in any way? How did he get this information? I noticed Mary Murphy's posting and was shocked by the 12% increase in C/S rates in one year. Also is there any way to access the total % of people taking up private insurance within individual states from one year to the next?Cheers,Jackie Doolan--This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics.Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.. IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
[ozmidwifery] OP babies research
I don't know if it has been published yet, but was on either page 1 or 3 of the Saturday Sydney Morning Herald a while ago, with photo of mother, midwife and Swiss ball. LOUISE [EMAIL PROTECTED] IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
RE: [ozmidwifery] follow throughs!
At the beginning of Chris Bohalijian's book MIDWIVES it says it's fiction, great read. Also "longitudinal case studies" for student midwives/midwifery students/pupil midwives/beginning midwives (- I get lost), I'm very excited to be a "follow through lady" for a midi student where I work. I have only great memories of the 4 "follow throughs" I had when "doing mid" in (ahem) '88. Couldn't believe my luck to become pregnant near the beginning of an intake! Louise -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robin MoonSent: Thursday, 1 August 2002 7:20 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] follow throughs!
re:cosleeping
I don't know how the doctor can say it's not on, as the literature for professionals from SIDS says co sleeping is only a problem if smokers, more than usual alcohol, drugs or excessive tiredness. It even states sleeping in the same room is protective for the first 6 months. Anyway a doc/midwife/nurse etc can't make you do or not do anything. Louise Dimmock McLeod [EMAIL PROTECTED]
abc radio
I just heard Pat Brodie speaking with James Valentine on local ABC radio AM , a short segment but sympathetic to midwives with a few callers with nice midwife stories. Mentioned IMD on Sun. and the insurance crisis. Louise Dimmock McLeod [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: postnatal discharge programs: support what you say
Care link (based in Wollongong) do home visits (midwifery, lactation, early childhood) plus services of cleaning/nappies/carer/transport/baby monitor, on a sliding scale depending on how many nights the client is in hospital and the delivery type. They do this on behalf of several health funds - IOR, Aust Unity, Gov Employees, Teachers, Defence, NRMA, Grand United, Manchester Unity and so on. They contract out to local people in other areas Eg: if you have a normal birth and go home after 1 night you get 2 midwife visits and 4 services ( of clients choice), 2 nights 2 visits and 2 services, whereas if you stay 4 nights you get 1 midwife visit OR 1 service. C/section if home after 2 nights - 2 midwife visits and 4 services, 4 nights 2 visits and 2 services, 6 nights 1 service only. Joanne Peterson is the manager(RN) on 02 4221 8337 and has always been very helpful when I've referred women. It helps, as the women at our private hospital can't link in to the wonderful early discharge/domiciliary midwifery programmes run by the public system. hope this helps Louise -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Carroll Elizabeth Sent: Thursday, 18 April 2002 9:40 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: postnatal discharge programs: support what you say Hi: Can anyone help? I am after more information on the home help program discussed in ACA last night (didnt see it) and also any other similar programs around Australia. Anything you can give me - even just the names of the service providers and I can chase them up myself. Thanks. Liz Liz Carroll Project Officer Maternity Options Assessment and Review c/- Women's Health Access Program ph 03 62 227061 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3rd Floor, Peacock Blg Repatriation Centre 90 Davey Street HOBART TAS 7000 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
re:consumer representation
I agree with most of what is listed, BUT - in 13 years midi I've never seen anyone put eye drops in a baby at birth -what for?. Or give an enema without it being asked for. What is a hep lock? The list sounds like it is from an american web site, is it? Louise
recommendation?
Kristy, if you want to be private, how about swapping to a fund like australian unity, IOR, NIB, NRMA who cover midwifery care? then you could have the fantastic midwifery care with some of the hospital care paid for. as for NRMA they have advertised recently they will cover all the costs of having a baby even the doctor and all the gap. at work (large private hospital) we would have about 2-3 women a day swapping over to them. they are part of care link too so free follow up/services too.i'm sure midwifery care would be cheaper for them than docs, and it would fall into their costs of having a baby category. a lot of the women i look after complain they are thousands out of pocket even with top traditional health cover - something to consider. Louise The cure foranything is salt water - Sweat, tears, or the sea. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: formula without consent?
Unfortunately I work in the private OBSTETRIC system, and very rarely see a birth plan. Those we see have NOT been discussed with a caregiver - medical or midwifery- and usually have been copied from an American internet site/book and include things like no eye drops for the baby. sigh we keep going and help those we can... Louise ---BeginMessage--- On 8/12/01 10:44 AM, Grant and Louise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh I see this happen regularly, consent is given - but not INFORMED consent. Your baby NEEDS a bottle/comp/some food because s/he's hungry/dry/jaundiced/big/little/sleepy/crying/prem/overdue/urates in the nappy (or you've laboured/had a caesar/had diabetes/were overdue/had lots of visitors) No discussion of alternatives or possible outcomes of the little bottle. In the mothers eyes it's okay because WE ( who are classed as the medical) say so. Louise The cure for all things is salt water - Sweat, tears, or the sea. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. This shameful situation would cease to occur if midwives educated women during their pregnancy about their baby's nutritional needs over the first few days of life and help them plan their first interactions with their baby. Isn't anyone making Birth Plans with women? Birth Plans are the greatest insurance to getting informed consent to anything but they also give the women confidence to ask appropriate questions/ and/ or politely refuse offers not just during labour and birth but with situations such as inappropriate formula for their baby In fact Birth Plans are the greatest asset any midwife or mother could have WHO USES THEM -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. ---End Message---
Re:head lice treatment
Try Hale's Medications and Mothers Milk or call the NSW Mothersafe line 93826539 or 1800 647848 (if they're not there, leave a message and they get back to you really soon). Louise RN Midwife IBCLC The cure for all things is salt water - Sweat, tears, or the sea. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
ballot
I live in Sydney and only received my news and ballot paper today- 9th November! How on earth (to put it mildly!) are we supposed to read the document, decide, and get it back to Victoria by 11th- especially when 10th and 11th are the weekend? I doubt those living outside capital cities, or in W.A. would have even received their documents. It all seems to be set up to fail - no? What a pity. Will there be an extension of time? Please consider one so this can work out after all the hard work having gone into organising the quotes etc.. Louise Dimmock McLeod member NSW Midwives Association The cure for all things is salt water - Sweat, tears, or the sea. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
labelling babies
The baby (and any patient/client) 'needs' a band to id them for giving meds, taking blood, returning from being elsewhere eg. baby minded while mum goes to postnatal physio. I have found many mums say before birth they don't want to be separated, but they seem to change their minds! don't want to sleep close to them! In the 4 hospitals I have worked we only footprint the dead babies, and sometimes the sick premies, as part of making memories. Louise RN Midwife IBCLC -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
