accessible digital recorder with editing
Hello Dane & list Does one get an accessible digital recorder with editing capabilities. A friend of mine is a member of a choir. The choir master records the songs for her but everytime she makes a mistake she must start from scratch resulting in the creation of a new file. They are looking for a recorder which allows for stopping the recording and rewind to just before the error and then resume. Does one get such a recorder? I suppose it could be handy for lawyers and doctors. Regards Fanus
Plex music software
Hello list Has anyone used this software and if so, is it accessible with jaws. If not, is there a better application. I obtained a wifi storage drive and I want to stream music from it to a speaker on the wifi network. The drive manufacturer, Western Digital, recommends Plex for this purpose but I do not know it, so I do not want to install if it does not work with jaws. Regards Fanus
Re: England V. SA cricket
Hello Andre I know nothibng about this VPN thing, so can you explain a bit what is Wytopia and how do you use it to listen to the cricket? Regards Fanus From: André van Deventer Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 7:43 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: England V. SA cricket I use wytopia at www.witopia.net Works reasonably well. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Ketan Kothari Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 7:20 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: Re: England V. SA cricket Actually, I could earlier but the latest version of their software is inaccessible on PC's and on Android encryption is very weak as we use accessibility features. The only way I can use it is Iphone but there I have data restrictions. So I can but I can't. I am a bit irritated. Any other way? I would have preferred Guerilla cricket but they have no crowd sound effects and I don't like the atmosphere there. Ketan -Original Message- From: André van Deventer Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 10:21 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: England V. SA cricket Ketan Can you not use Tunnelbear VPN to access the bbc from India? André -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Ketan Kothari Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 4:59 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: Re: England V. SA cricket Hi, If I can suggest I use Tunnelbear VPN, but you will agree it is not as good as listening directly. Some hope for champions' trophy if cricket radio broadcasts then you may get it on west Indian stations. If you need help contact me nearer the time. Do keep in touch. Also, any private stations? even off screen will do. By the way, All India radio have stopped broacasting cricket since we got this new government in 2014 except CWC. I hate these people. -Original Message- From: André van Deventer Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:16 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: England V. SA cricket Ketan Found an article on the net that stated that the SABC will not be broadcasting either the matches between England and SA or the champions trophy matches. So we are stuck with the BBC which will not let us listen. The only is now to get a VPN service for access to the BBC! André -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Ketan Kothari Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 4:12 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: Re: England V. SA cricket Any plan for the next matches and the Champion's trophy? I hate these cricket rights things. Arrogance of the worst kind. -Original Message- From: André van Deventer Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 7:34 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: England V. SA cricket Ketan We don't even get it here in SA at the moment! Andr é -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Ketan Kothari Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 3:32 PM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: England V. SA cricket Hi Friends, Ordinarily, whenever Souuth Africa plays cricket matches the commentary is broadcaste on radio 2000 but this time I don’t see it there. Could anyone in South Africa enlighten me on this? I know it is there on BBC Radio 5live Sportsextra but unfortunately I can’t get it in India. Any help will be appreciated. Thank you. With best wishes, Ketan
Re: England V. SA cricket
Hello Andre For what it is worth,I use the ESPNcricinfo app on my iphone. It is not live commentary but it gives the total and how many runs from each ball. This is in text format. For example it now says England 134/3 after 25.1 overs. At least I can follow it that way. Regards Fanus From: André van Deventer Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 4:46 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: England V. SA cricket Ketan Found an article on the net that stated that the SABC will not be broadcasting either the matches between England and SA or the champions trophy matches. So we are stuck with the BBC which will not let us listen. The only is now to get a VPN service for access to the BBC! André -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Ketan Kothari Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 4:12 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: Re: England V. SA cricket Any plan for the next matches and the Champion's trophy? I hate these cricket rights things. Arrogance of the worst kind. -Original Message- From: André van Deventer Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 7:34 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: England V. SA cricket Ketan We don't even get it here in SA at the moment! Andr é -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Ketan Kothari Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 3:32 PM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: England V. SA cricket Hi Friends, Ordinarily, whenever Souuth Africa plays cricket matches the commentary is broadcaste on radio 2000 but this time I don’t see it there. Could anyone in South Africa enlighten me on this? I know it is there on BBC Radio 5live Sportsextra but unfortunately I can’t get it in India. Any help will be appreciated. Thank you. With best wishes, Ketan
Re: Echo Tap initial impressions
Hello Dane Sorry for my ignorance but what is the echo tab. Can one only use it if one has an Alexa? Regards Fanus From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 3:41 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Echo Tap initial impressions I think the first thing that struck me about the Echo Tap was how well it prejects sound about a room given the size of the device which is smaller than the Amazon Echo itself. I have the Tap sitting on the kitchen table now where I can clearly hear it even at very low volume, I'm in the lounge area which goes through to the kitchen. The first thing I did with Tap was to take it outside to enjoy the sunshine and listen to the BBC Radio 4 Midnight news. I would stress that this device - whilst not the best for music - does the spoken word proud indeed! clearly audible and understandable. By all means, listen to your music on the go with Tap but its nothing compared to other systems around and neither we should expect it to be at the price paid for a Tap. I'd be most interested to hear comments from other Tap users. I intend to use the Tap mainly for listening to Talking Books and Radio though of course! there's no reason why I can't use it for much much more with Alexa. I haven't seen any mention of the Hands Free update we've been discussing yet so perhaps its not available everywhere at this time.
Re: accessibility of vinyl studio lite
Hello Andre Where did you obtain this beast and what was the price? Regards Fanus From: André van Deventer Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 4:47 PM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: accessibility of vinyl studio lite Hi folks Just received my NAD PP4 phono preamplifier. Nice little device with USB, moving coil and moving magnet inputs, an auxiliary input for e.g. recording cassette tapes and also an auxiliary output. Very solidly constructed little box with also a recording volume control on the front. With it came a programme called Vinyl Studio lite. I’m just wondering if anyone has ever used this programme and whether it is accessible? I suppose this is no big deal as you can use any editor like audacity for example to do your recordings but I was just wondering. Regards André
Re: Airfoil For Windows
Hello Dane I am not that familiar with google, so how would you construct the search term? Regards Fanus From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 2:43 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Airfoil For Windows Yes that’s true and I’m sorry that I can’t help either because I’ve never had that problem in all the time I’ve used Airfoil and that’s been quite a few years now, have you looked around on Google for a possible solution? That’s where I usually find solutions to issues like that. > On 31 Jul 2016, at 8:53 PM, Fanus wrote: > > Hello Dane > I still have the problem that I can not stream with Airfoil. VLc lets the > music sound like a robot and Winamp just makes crackles. I filled in the > support form but got no answer. It is really a pity that one pays for > software and can’t use it. > Regards > Fanus > > > From: Dane Trethowan > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 8:22 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Airfoil For Windows > > Hi! > > > I reinstalled Windows 10 onto my system, I've been using Windows 10 for > 12 months, was having problems that were getting too difficult to fix > easily so decided to completely reinstall which wasn't a difficult task > in itself. > > > So now I have Windows 10 up and running again so now to the annoying > bit, reinstalling all that software. > > > I won't be reinstalling iTunes and that's not because of iTunes itself > which is a nice piece of software but I myself have no need for iTunes > these days, more important in the audio side of things was the VLC Media > Player and - given I do a lot of streaming - the excellent Airfoil for > Windows App. > > > If you have some Bluetooth or AirPlay device about and you wish to > stream to them then Airfoil is truly a most useful tool you should > consider and I did say Bluetooth devices so I'll talk about the shortly. > > > The accessibility of Airfoil has come quite a long way since I started > using the Windows version, you can use the tab key to move between the > various panels of the software, for example each AirPlay device will > have its own panel where you can turn transmission of a stream on and > off, adjust the volume of the output and so on. The buttons aren't > labeled but they'ear easy enough to work out. > > > The bigger problem is entering one's licence key, it can be done but > you'll most likely need to use the JAWS Cursor or WE Cursor to find > where the information should be entered. > > > So what can you stream using Airfoil? Pretty much anything that exists > on your computer, capture an Applications audio for example or capture > the output of a sound device or TV Tuner. > > > So now to Bluetooth and the ability to handle Bluetooth is a recent > addition to the capabilities of Airfoil > > > > If you have a computer which is capable of streaming to Bluetooth > devices you can pair your devices and have Airfoil transmit to them > independent of your computers speech and other sound. > > > You can also define "Groups", you might like to put say two different > devices into a group and transmit straight to the group rather than > connect each device independently, saves a lot of time. > > > ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
Re: Airfoil For Windows
Hello Dane I still have the problem that I can not stream with Airfoil. VLc lets the music sound like a robot and Winamp just makes crackles. I filled in the support form but got no answer. It is really a pity that one pays for software and can’t use it. Regards Fanus From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 8:22 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Airfoil For Windows Hi! I reinstalled Windows 10 onto my system, I've been using Windows 10 for 12 months, was having problems that were getting too difficult to fix easily so decided to completely reinstall which wasn't a difficult task in itself. So now I have Windows 10 up and running again so now to the annoying bit, reinstalling all that software. I won't be reinstalling iTunes and that's not because of iTunes itself which is a nice piece of software but I myself have no need for iTunes these days, more important in the audio side of things was the VLC Media Player and - given I do a lot of streaming - the excellent Airfoil for Windows App. If you have some Bluetooth or AirPlay device about and you wish to stream to them then Airfoil is truly a most useful tool you should consider and I did say Bluetooth devices so I'll talk about the shortly. The accessibility of Airfoil has come quite a long way since I started using the Windows version, you can use the tab key to move between the various panels of the software, for example each AirPlay device will have its own panel where you can turn transmission of a stream on and off, adjust the volume of the output and so on. The buttons aren't labeled but they'ear easy enough to work out. The bigger problem is entering one's licence key, it can be done but you'll most likely need to use the JAWS Cursor or WE Cursor to find where the information should be entered. So what can you stream using Airfoil? Pretty much anything that exists on your computer, capture an Applications audio for example or capture the output of a sound device or TV Tuner. So now to Bluetooth and the ability to handle Bluetooth is a recent addition to the capabilities of Airfoil If you have a computer which is capable of streaming to Bluetooth devices you can pair your devices and have Airfoil transmit to them independent of your computers speech and other sound. You can also define "Groups", you might like to put say two different devices into a group and transmit straight to the group rather than connect each device independently, saves a lot of time.
Re: Hurricans vs Sharks
Hello Andre Well, RSG surprised us all and broadcasted the match, however maybe we should not have listened. I am full of confidence that my pack of lions will do the job properly. Regards Fanus From: André van Deventer Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 9:04 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Hurricans vs Sharks Fanus Sorry man should have gotten to you earlier. If you have tunein radio it works on there. Just search for radio new Zealand sport and you will be good to go. This one still works fine. Poor sharkies!! André -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Fanus Sent: 22 July 2016 08:04 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Hurricans vs Sharks Hello Andre I hope you are well. Have you perhaps found a way to listen to the match tomorrow morning. The station on tapin radio does not play and even the New Zealand app on the iphone is silent. Regards Fanus From: André van Deventer Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 4:03 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Bowers And Wilkins MM1 Computer Speakers As far as I understand it it is just an analog input. At least that is what the manual that I downloaded says. Regards Andre -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 22 July 2016 12:48 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bowers And Wilkins MM1 Computer Speakers Yes okay, sorry about the miss-understanding there , I've read those complaints too in reviews and - whilst those reviewers are very much entitled to their viewpoint - I think it trivia givin what the MM3's are but that's going over old ground again. Regarding the line-in? You're correct about audio quality depreciating somewhat, its an analogue line-in after all and the MM1'S are based around Digital input hence the USB cable from the computer to the MM1's. Now I can't remember exactly whether the analogue input of the MM1's doubles as a Toslink 3.5MM digital input? I know the input socket on the A7 can be used as both analogue and digital, I have the A7 linked to my Sangean DDR63+ through a digital cable so with that - the DDr63 has DAB+ Radio, CD Player, Internet Radio, iPod dock etc -, with the A7'S ability to stream AirPlay and it linked to my computer via USB I have a pretty powerful system to be going on with. On 22/07/2016 6:49 PM, André van Deventer wrote: > Dane > > Perhaps I have not expressed myself correctly. Definitely no one on this > list has complained about the fact that these speakers do not fill a huge > room with sound. But I have read quite a few reviews complaining about this. > Perhaps this is what I should have said. > > Like you I like the fact that the DAC is actually built into the the speakers > so that you will only need a USB connection. I have not tried the 3.5 mm > input of the speakers yet but according to what I have read the sound quality > depreciates quite a bit - which makes me think that perhaps much of the > signal processing is actually done at the DAC stage of the speakers. > > André > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of > Dane Trethowan > Sent: 22 July 2016 10:15 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Bowers And Wilkins MM1 Computer Speakers > > Can I ask you who has complained about the Bowers And Wilkins MM1 speaker set > not filling a house with sound? No one on this list that I'm aware of has > complained about that, I've meerly mentioned it as a trait of this speaker > set and its perfectly acceptible to think that a desktop pair of computer > speakers wouldn't fill a house with sound as they're not designed to do that > at all. > > > Logitech and other cheaper manufacturers do make speakers that disperse sound > however they don't sound nearly as good as the MM1's do as computer speakers. > > > Again I make the obvious point which you're making and have made before as I > have done, the MM1 speakers are great placed on your desktop with you in > front of them or near them to fully enjoy them however if its room filling - > or even house filling - sound you want then the A7 or A5 are worth > considering. > > > I think of the A7 as a computer speaker because it has - like the MM1 - a USB > input so it can be connected to your computer as a USB sound card would be > connected - as is the case with the MM1's -. > > > The A7 is more a speaker music system whereas the MM1's are desktop computer > speakers. > > > My only other comment is that I really wish I knew of other music > systems that had a USB input as the A7 does so if anyone knows any > others then
Hurricans vs Sharks
Hello Andre I hope you are well. Have you perhaps found a way to listen to the match tomorrow morning. The station on tapin radio does not play and even the New Zealand app on the iphone is silent. Regards Fanus From: André van Deventer Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 4:03 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Bowers And Wilkins MM1 Computer Speakers As far as I understand it it is just an analog input. At least that is what the manual that I downloaded says. Regards Andre -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 22 July 2016 12:48 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bowers And Wilkins MM1 Computer Speakers Yes okay, sorry about the miss-understanding there , I've read those complaints too in reviews and - whilst those reviewers are very much entitled to their viewpoint - I think it trivia givin what the MM3's are but that's going over old ground again. Regarding the line-in? You're correct about audio quality depreciating somewhat, its an analogue line-in after all and the MM1'S are based around Digital input hence the USB cable from the computer to the MM1's. Now I can't remember exactly whether the analogue input of the MM1's doubles as a Toslink 3.5MM digital input? I know the input socket on the A7 can be used as both analogue and digital, I have the A7 linked to my Sangean DDR63+ through a digital cable so with that - the DDr63 has DAB+ Radio, CD Player, Internet Radio, iPod dock etc -, with the A7'S ability to stream AirPlay and it linked to my computer via USB I have a pretty powerful system to be going on with. On 22/07/2016 6:49 PM, André van Deventer wrote: > Dane > > Perhaps I have not expressed myself correctly. Definitely no one on this > list has complained about the fact that these speakers do not fill a huge > room with sound. But I have read quite a few reviews complaining about this. > Perhaps this is what I should have said. > > Like you I like the fact that the DAC is actually built into the the speakers > so that you will only need a USB connection. I have not tried the 3.5 mm > input of the speakers yet but according to what I have read the sound quality > depreciates quite a bit - which makes me think that perhaps much of the > signal processing is actually done at the DAC stage of the speakers. > > André > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of > Dane Trethowan > Sent: 22 July 2016 10:15 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Bowers And Wilkins MM1 Computer Speakers > > Can I ask you who has complained about the Bowers And Wilkins MM1 speaker set > not filling a house with sound? No one on this list that I'm aware of has > complained about that, I've meerly mentioned it as a trait of this speaker > set and its perfectly acceptible to think that a desktop pair of computer > speakers wouldn't fill a house with sound as they're not designed to do that > at all. > > > Logitech and other cheaper manufacturers do make speakers that disperse sound > however they don't sound nearly as good as the MM1's do as computer speakers. > > > Again I make the obvious point which you're making and have made before as I > have done, the MM1 speakers are great placed on your desktop with you in > front of them or near them to fully enjoy them however if its room filling - > or even house filling - sound you want then the A7 or A5 are worth > considering. > > > I think of the A7 as a computer speaker because it has - like the MM1 - a USB > input so it can be connected to your computer as a USB sound card would be > connected - as is the case with the MM1's -. > > > The A7 is more a speaker music system whereas the MM1's are desktop computer > speakers. > > > My only other comment is that I really wish I knew of other music > systems that had a USB input as the A7 does so if anyone knows any > others then perhaps they may wish to comment? I only know of one other > and that's the Kef X300 I think its call and that system is actually a > pair of bookshelf speakers so they're rather large. > > > Its a beautiful set of speakers without a doubt and exhibits > everything in sound that Kef speakers are well known for. > > > > On 22/07/2016 5:35 PM, André van Deventer wrote: >> The mm1 is manufactured as a desk top set and that is the job it does very >> very good. I really cannot understand the complaints some folks have about >> it not filling up the whole house or big room with sound. They are not >> designed to do that.They are designed to give you clear sound wit
Re: Rogue Amoeba | Airfoil: Wireless audio around your house
Hello Dane I now discovered that if I turn the volume of my hifi quite up I just hear crackles. I then tried VLC and now I hear the music but it sounds like a robot so that I can not even hear the words or who is singing. As I said Airplay in iTunes does work, so I do not know what the problem may be. Very strange. Regards Fanus From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 11:07 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Rogue Amoeba | Airfoil: Wireless audio around your house You’ll just have to test things out for your particular system, press tab to move to each button and then press the spacebar to activate that button, I know its an annoyance but that’s exactly what I had to do to learn the layout of the thing. Now the buttons will be obvious as you test, one will minimise Airfoil, another exits Airfoil and another brings up the source list, these are the devices you can capture sound from to be streamed to your Airport Express or whatever. Another thing you’ll have to possibly look at is your Firewall, Airfoil probably won’t be able to transmit to your Airport Express until your Firewall allows it to do so, in which case Airfoil will probably report an error message and your Firewall - depending on what you’re using - may come up and ask you if you wish to allow Airfoil to connect to your network or similar. > On 16 Jul 2016, at 9:45 PM, Fanus wrote: > > Hello Dane > I am sorry for asking again but for some reason I get no sound on my hifi. I > can streme via itunes, so the problem must be with airfoil or winamp. In > airfoil I tab and I hear that the device is the express and another tab shows > the volume as 100%. Is there perhaps something in Winamp I should set or if > you do not use winamp, can you suggest another player? > Regards > Fanus > > > > From: Dane Trethowan > Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 7:47 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Rogue Amoeba | Airfoil: Wireless audio around your house > > Yep certainly. > > > You stream Winamp to your Airport Express by first running Airfoil and > then pressing the "Source" button, its identified by tabbing to it, its > about the third button along and your screen reader should announce > "Toggle" as well as "Button", press the button with the Spacebar and a > list will pop-up of all the physical sound devices and software you can > capture the sound output from, Winamp should be amongst these but if it > isn't then move to "Choose Other App" and select Winamp From there. > > > Next press all to bring up the menu system and press T for Transmit, > select Airport Express and start streaming. > > > > > On 16/07/2016 2:21 AM, Fanus wrote: >> Hello Dane >> Ok, can you perhaps give me a few pointers. I have a usb wifi dongle on my >> pc and I have an Apple Airport Express. Can I use winamp to stream music >> from my pc to my hifi by using winamp? If so, how would I set airfoil up? >> Regards >> Fanus >> >> >> From: Dane Trethowan >> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 9:21 PM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Rogue Amoeba | Airfoil: Wireless audio around your house >> >> I’ve never bothered with the user manual for Airfoil - whether it be Windows >> or Mac - and there are more than likely things I’ve missed, I just messed >> about with Airfoil until I got the product to do what I’ve wanted it to do. >> >> I guess you can ask questions so I and others may answer. >> >> >>> On 15 Jul 2016, at 1:16 AM, Fanus wrote: >>> >>> Hello Dane >>> I did the upgrade and now I am just wondering: do you perhaps have a user >>> manual saved as one file. I notice that the manual on the site consists of >>> many links, so it would be nice to have a .txt or .docx file. >>> Regards >>> Fanus >>> >>> >>> From: Dane Trethowan >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 8:32 AM >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> Subject: Rogue Amoeba | Airfoil: Wireless audio around your house >>> >>> New versions of Airfoil have been released for Mac and Windows, discover >>> what this amazing audio streaming product can do. >>> >>> I use both Airfoil on Windows and Mac, accessibility on the Windows PC is >>> okay, you can tab through the buttons and get to the menu system. >>> >>> >>> >>>> https://rogueamoeba.com/airfoil/mac/ <https://rogueamoeba.com/airfoil/mac/> >>> >>> ** >>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the >>> halfwits in this world behind. >>> >>> >> ** >> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the >> halfwits in this world behind. >> >> > > -- > > ** > Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves > ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
Re: Rogue Amoeba | Airfoil: Wireless audio around your house
Hello Dane I am sorry for asking again but for some reason I get no sound on my hifi. I can streme via itunes, so the problem must be with airfoil or winamp. In airfoil I tab and I hear that the device is the express and another tab shows the volume as 100%. Is there perhaps something in Winamp I should set or if you do not use winamp, can you suggest another player? Regards Fanus From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 7:47 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Rogue Amoeba | Airfoil: Wireless audio around your house Yep certainly. You stream Winamp to your Airport Express by first running Airfoil and then pressing the "Source" button, its identified by tabbing to it, its about the third button along and your screen reader should announce "Toggle" as well as "Button", press the button with the Spacebar and a list will pop-up of all the physical sound devices and software you can capture the sound output from, Winamp should be amongst these but if it isn't then move to "Choose Other App" and select Winamp From there. Next press all to bring up the menu system and press T for Transmit, select Airport Express and start streaming. On 16/07/2016 2:21 AM, Fanus wrote: > Hello Dane > Ok, can you perhaps give me a few pointers. I have a usb wifi dongle on my pc > and I have an Apple Airport Express. Can I use winamp to stream music from my > pc to my hifi by using winamp? If so, how would I set airfoil up? > Regards > Fanus > > > From: Dane Trethowan > Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 9:21 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Rogue Amoeba | Airfoil: Wireless audio around your house > > I’ve never bothered with the user manual for Airfoil - whether it be Windows > or Mac - and there are more than likely things I’ve missed, I just messed > about with Airfoil until I got the product to do what I’ve wanted it to do. > > I guess you can ask questions so I and others may answer. > > >> On 15 Jul 2016, at 1:16 AM, Fanus wrote: >> >> Hello Dane >> I did the upgrade and now I am just wondering: do you perhaps have a user >> manual saved as one file. I notice that the manual on the site consists of >> many links, so it would be nice to have a .txt or .docx file. >> Regards >> Fanus >> >> >> From: Dane Trethowan >> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 8:32 AM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Rogue Amoeba | Airfoil: Wireless audio around your house >> >> New versions of Airfoil have been released for Mac and Windows, discover >> what this amazing audio streaming product can do. >> >> I use both Airfoil on Windows and Mac, accessibility on the Windows PC is >> okay, you can tab through the buttons and get to the menu system. >> >> >> >>> https://rogueamoeba.com/airfoil/mac/ <https://rogueamoeba.com/airfoil/mac/> >> >> ** >> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the >> halfwits in this world behind. >> >> > ** > Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the > halfwits in this world behind. > > -- ** Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
Re: Rogue Amoeba | Airfoil: Wireless audio around your house
Hello Dane As easy as that??? Thank you very much. Regards Fanus From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 7:47 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Rogue Amoeba | Airfoil: Wireless audio around your house Yep certainly. You stream Winamp to your Airport Express by first running Airfoil and then pressing the "Source" button, its identified by tabbing to it, its about the third button along and your screen reader should announce "Toggle" as well as "Button", press the button with the Spacebar and a list will pop-up of all the physical sound devices and software you can capture the sound output from, Winamp should be amongst these but if it isn't then move to "Choose Other App" and select Winamp From there. Next press all to bring up the menu system and press T for Transmit, select Airport Express and start streaming. On 16/07/2016 2:21 AM, Fanus wrote: > Hello Dane > Ok, can you perhaps give me a few pointers. I have a usb wifi dongle on my pc > and I have an Apple Airport Express. Can I use winamp to stream music from my > pc to my hifi by using winamp? If so, how would I set airfoil up? > Regards > Fanus > > > From: Dane Trethowan > Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 9:21 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Rogue Amoeba | Airfoil: Wireless audio around your house > > I’ve never bothered with the user manual for Airfoil - whether it be Windows > or Mac - and there are more than likely things I’ve missed, I just messed > about with Airfoil until I got the product to do what I’ve wanted it to do. > > I guess you can ask questions so I and others may answer. > > >> On 15 Jul 2016, at 1:16 AM, Fanus wrote: >> >> Hello Dane >> I did the upgrade and now I am just wondering: do you perhaps have a user >> manual saved as one file. I notice that the manual on the site consists of >> many links, so it would be nice to have a .txt or .docx file. >> Regards >> Fanus >> >> >> From: Dane Trethowan >> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 8:32 AM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Rogue Amoeba | Airfoil: Wireless audio around your house >> >> New versions of Airfoil have been released for Mac and Windows, discover >> what this amazing audio streaming product can do. >> >> I use both Airfoil on Windows and Mac, accessibility on the Windows PC is >> okay, you can tab through the buttons and get to the menu system. >> >> >> >>> https://rogueamoeba.com/airfoil/mac/ <https://rogueamoeba.com/airfoil/mac/> >> >> ** >> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the >> halfwits in this world behind. >> >> > ** > Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the > halfwits in this world behind. > > -- ** Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
Re: Rogue Amoeba | Airfoil: Wireless audio around your house
Hello Dane Ok, can you perhaps give me a few pointers. I have a usb wifi dongle on my pc and I have an Apple Airport Express. Can I use winamp to stream music from my pc to my hifi by using winamp? If so, how would I set airfoil up? Regards Fanus From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 9:21 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Rogue Amoeba | Airfoil: Wireless audio around your house I’ve never bothered with the user manual for Airfoil - whether it be Windows or Mac - and there are more than likely things I’ve missed, I just messed about with Airfoil until I got the product to do what I’ve wanted it to do. I guess you can ask questions so I and others may answer. > On 15 Jul 2016, at 1:16 AM, Fanus wrote: > > Hello Dane > I did the upgrade and now I am just wondering: do you perhaps have a user > manual saved as one file. I notice that the manual on the site consists of > many links, so it would be nice to have a .txt or .docx file. > Regards > Fanus > > > From: Dane Trethowan > Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 8:32 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Rogue Amoeba | Airfoil: Wireless audio around your house > > New versions of Airfoil have been released for Mac and Windows, discover what > this amazing audio streaming product can do. > > I use both Airfoil on Windows and Mac, accessibility on the Windows PC is > okay, you can tab through the buttons and get to the menu system. > > > >> https://rogueamoeba.com/airfoil/mac/ <https://rogueamoeba.com/airfoil/mac/> > > > ** > Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the > halfwits in this world behind. > > ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
Re: Rogue Amoeba | Airfoil: Wireless audio around your house
Hello Dane I did the upgrade and now I am just wondering: do you perhaps have a user manual saved as one file. I notice that the manual on the site consists of many links, so it would be nice to have a .txt or .docx file. Regards Fanus From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 8:32 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Rogue Amoeba | Airfoil: Wireless audio around your house New versions of Airfoil have been released for Mac and Windows, discover what this amazing audio streaming product can do. I use both Airfoil on Windows and Mac, accessibility on the Windows PC is okay, you can tab through the buttons and get to the menu system. > https://rogueamoeba.com/airfoil/mac/ <https://rogueamoeba.com/airfoil/mac/> ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
Re: radio new zealand sport does not seem to play anymore ontapin radio
Hello Andre All that I can think is that they shifted the frequency a bit and the developers of tapin and the ios app does not realize this factor. Regards Fanus From: André van Deventer Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 2:27 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: radio new zealand sport does not seem to play anymore ontapin radio It also does not want to play on the radio new Zealand pro lite app! Very strange! -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Fanus Sent: 27 May 2016 12:50 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: radio new zealand sport does not seem to play anymore on tapin radio Hallo Andre I experience the same problem, so if you find a solution please let me know and I shall do likewise. Regards Fanus From: André van Deventer Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 9:17 AM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: radio new zealand sport does not seem to play anymore on tapin radio Hi all It seems that Radio New Zealand Sport does not seem to play anymore on Tapin Radio. Nor does the it seem to play anymore on the IOS new Zealand radio app. Does anyone know why this is? Regards André --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: radio new zealand sport does not seem to play anymore on tapin radio
Hallo Andre I experience the same problem, so if you find a solution please let me know and I shall do likewise. Regards Fanus From: André van Deventer Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 9:17 AM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: radio new zealand sport does not seem to play anymore on tapin radio Hi all It seems that Radio New Zealand Sport does not seem to play anymore on Tapin Radio. Nor does the it seem to play anymore on the IOS new Zealand radio app. Does anyone know why this is? Regards André --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: B&W speakers arrived finally
Hello Andre I assume there are two speakers to have stereo sound? So are both connected via bluetooth simultaneously? Did you get it here in SA? Regards Fanus From: André van Deventer Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 5:40 PM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: B&W speakers arrived finally Hi all For those of you who might still remember – my pair of B&W mm1 speakers finally arrived today. Getting started was rather straight forward. I simply connected up the two speakers, connected it up to the power supply and plugged in the USB port. Was a bit of a problem finding the power button on the side of the active speaker but when I finally found it by accident, the computer recognised it immediately and installed the windows drivers. It now shows up in my audio devices as mm1. The two rather small speakers are surprisingly heavy for their size and extremely solidly constructed. There are two buttons on the left side of the speaker for volume control and one on the right side of the speaker which is the power on button. All of these buttons must be physically press so they give tactile feedback. But there is now physicale indication where they are located. There is a basic little remote control that comes with the unit which I have not yet used. You have to pul out f small tab that keeps the battery door from closing. I messed up things a bit so the greatest part of the tab broke off! Still have to get the rest out. The sound that comes out of these little speakers is quite astonishing. However, if you are looking for booming bass and screeching highs as seem to be the case with much of the modern equipment, you are going to be very disappointed. The sound of the B&W is subtle that is the only way I can describe it. All the frequencies are there that you would need. And the sound is wonderfully clear. Am still running some tests so will get back later if anyone is interested. Regards Andre --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: A Near Perfect Tabletop Radio?
Hello Dane You left out the important part? What does this beast cost? Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 8:13 AM Subject: A Near Perfect Tabletop Radio? I believe I've found to be a near perfect tabletop radio, the DDr-63 which comes from our good friends at Sangean The bad parts first, this radio has a touch screen however one can either use the Remote control or the Sangean Remote App if one has an iPhone or Android devce. On my system I can't get the Sangean App to work on my iPhone for whatever reason but it works fine on my Samsung Galaxy S6 Android phone. The DDR63 is literally packed with features and here are a few. USB port for playback of music from a memory stick. CD Player equipped with MP3 playback function. Digital DAB/DAB+ for models in Australia and Europe. Pandora connectivity IOS dock DLNA compatibility for playing music from a Mac, Windows machine or NAS storage Recording of a source to SD card or USB device. The radio even sounds quite nice thanks to its wooden cabinet and the sound can be further tweaked by the use of the EQ settings or you can customise the bass and treble controls to your liking. Unfortunately there's no way for a person without vision to set either of the two alarms but I do know that the display is very clear - I have this on good authority from those who can see it - so if you're part of a couple then this unit would certainly be a great bedside companion for the two of you. Other nice stuff include both an analog and digital line-out, aux-in and headphone socket. -- ** Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
Re: realtech on-board card does not retain settings Sunshine pleasecontact me
I forgot to say it is a desktop pc. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "Petro T. Giannakopoulos" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 12:28 AM Subject: Re: realtech on-board card does not retain settings Sunshine pleasecontact me Sunshine please contact me offlist. Sorry but I had to do this but I do not know how to find a person's email address when they post to this list so I can contact hem offlist. How do I do this? petro...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: Sunshine Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 12:55 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: realtech on-board card does not retain settings Is this a laptop or a desktop computer? On 5/13/2015 11:32 AM, Fanus wrote: Hello list I have a cable plugged into the line-in socket on my windows 7 pc. For some or other reason realtech does not keep this info, so each time that I want to record from my hifi system I have to pull out the 3.5 plug and plug it in again and then the popup comes on the screen where I have to select the line-in. Can someone suggest a way to let realtech keep the setting. It used to keep the setting but for a while now for some reason I have to go through the above process each time. Regards Fanus
realtech on-board card does not retain settings
Hello list I have a cable plugged into the line-in socket on my windows 7 pc. For some or other reason realtech does not keep this info, so each time that I want to record from my hifi system I have to pull out the 3.5 plug and plug it in again and then the popup comes on the screen where I have to select the line-in. Can someone suggest a way to let realtech keep the setting. It used to keep the setting but for a while now for some reason I have to go through the above process each time. Regards Fanus
commentry on the floyd maywehather fight
Hello list I hope this is not too far off topic. Does anyone know if there is a .mp3 radio commentry available? Regards Fanus
Re: VLC player install problem
Hello Yes, I did that but meanwhile I discovered that I accedentally tried to install a very old version instead of the latest version which I downloaded. Sorry for taking your time. Regards Fanus an old - Original Message - From: "Kulvinder Bhogal" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 2:38 PM Subject: Re: VLC player install problem This may be a stupid question but is your wife’s account set as administrator? Regards. Kulvinder On 4 May 2015, at 10:17, Fanus wrote: Hello list I try to install on my wife's windows 8 laptop but I get an error that there might not be enough permissions. I try to install as administrator but with the same result. I successfully installed it on my win 7 pc. Is there a special windows 8 vlc package? Regards Fanus
VLC player install problem
Hello list I try to install on my wife's windows 8 laptop but I get an error that there might not be enough permissions. I try to install as administrator but with the same result. I successfully installed it on my win 7 pc. Is there a special windows 8 vlc package? Regards Fanus
Re: VLC Shortcuts
I use jaws 16 - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 2:25 PM Subject: Re: VLC Shortcuts What Screen Reader are you using? On 30/04/2015 9:07 PM, Fanus wrote: Hello list The volume up and down (ctrl-uparrow and ctrl-downarrow) does not work on my win7 32 bit pc. Is there an alternative? Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "Smiling?" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 5:18 PM Subject: RE: VLC Shortcuts Here's what a mere simple search of "VLC shortcut keys" less the quotes found. 54 Keyboard Shortcuts for VLC Media Player: http://www.shortcutworld.com/en/win/VLC-Media-Player_1.html -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 8:12 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: VLC So where would be the most likely place where one could go to get a list of shortcut keys for VLC? I have this player...but don't really know the shortcuts! Thank you! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 5:41 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: VLC Hi! I suggest you do a review of it in the app store. You can do that and that goes directly to the devs and to apple. /A 29 apr 2015 kl. 00:10 skrev cov...@ccs.covici.com: I use it on the Mac and its great, this is why I was so disappointed. Dane Trethowan wrote: I'll take your word for it , people on the mac-access list sware by it. As for me? Well I don't have an IOS device so can't make any comment. On 29/04/2015 6:14 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: For IOS vlc is not very good, it does play lots of formats, but there is no jump to time and when you press on the video player to show controls, it goes back after a few seconds, so its a pain in the neck. Also, there is no search in the ftp browser. Anders Holmberg wrote: Hi! There was one long time ago but that was for vlc 0.8 or something. Things has changed now. /A 28 apr 2015 kl. 12:12 skrev Peter Scanlon : The use is to learn how to use it? You know how to use it but not everyone. it but From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 8:09 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: VLC What's the use! On 28/04/2015 8:02 PM, Peter Scanlon wrote: Is there a audio demo of how to use VLC? From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 7:58 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: VLC for Mac was Re: foobar No problems here, I use the Open folder command or browse to the folder using VLC itself. On 28/04/2015 5:22 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote: Hi all Does anyone know of alternatives to VLC for the Mac? At the moment, if I open a folder containing thousands of files it gets busy for a long time. Using 2.2.1. I'm pretty sure an earlier version of VLC didn't do that. Any recommendations greatly appreciated. Thanks! On 27 Apr 2015, at 22:27, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: There used to be a vlc for the iphone, but it was pulled for some reason. Dane Trethowan wrote: Other people might wish to know about it but not me, I use VLC across all platforms, waiting until the version of VLC comes out for Android. On 28/04/2015 4:39 AM, Sunshine wrote: what would you like to know about foobar 2000? On 4/27/2015 1:33 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Very appropriate to talk about Foolbar here I guess. On 27/04/2015 12:43 PM, Andrea Sherry wrote: Is there a list for this program? Andrea -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves
Re: VLC Shortcuts
Hello list The volume up and down (ctrl-uparrow and ctrl-downarrow) does not work on my win7 32 bit pc. Is there an alternative? Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "Smiling?" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 5:18 PM Subject: RE: VLC Shortcuts Here's what a mere simple search of "VLC shortcut keys" less the quotes found. 54 Keyboard Shortcuts for VLC Media Player: http://www.shortcutworld.com/en/win/VLC-Media-Player_1.html -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 8:12 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: VLC So where would be the most likely place where one could go to get a list of shortcut keys for VLC? I have this player...but don't really know the shortcuts! Thank you! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 5:41 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: VLC Hi! I suggest you do a review of it in the app store. You can do that and that goes directly to the devs and to apple. /A 29 apr 2015 kl. 00:10 skrev cov...@ccs.covici.com: I use it on the Mac and its great, this is why I was so disappointed. Dane Trethowan wrote: I'll take your word for it , people on the mac-access list sware by it. As for me? Well I don't have an IOS device so can't make any comment. On 29/04/2015 6:14 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: For IOS vlc is not very good, it does play lots of formats, but there is no jump to time and when you press on the video player to show controls, it goes back after a few seconds, so its a pain in the neck. Also, there is no search in the ftp browser. Anders Holmberg wrote: Hi! There was one long time ago but that was for vlc 0.8 or something. Things has changed now. /A 28 apr 2015 kl. 12:12 skrev Peter Scanlon : The use is to learn how to use it? You know how to use it but not everyone. it but From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 8:09 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: VLC What's the use! On 28/04/2015 8:02 PM, Peter Scanlon wrote: Is there a audio demo of how to use VLC? From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 7:58 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: VLC for Mac was Re: foobar No problems here, I use the Open folder command or browse to the folder using VLC itself. On 28/04/2015 5:22 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote: Hi all Does anyone know of alternatives to VLC for the Mac? At the moment, if I open a folder containing thousands of files it gets busy for a long time. Using 2.2.1. I'm pretty sure an earlier version of VLC didn't do that. Any recommendations greatly appreciated. Thanks! On 27 Apr 2015, at 22:27, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: There used to be a vlc for the iphone, but it was pulled for some reason. Dane Trethowan wrote: Other people might wish to know about it but not me, I use VLC across all platforms, waiting until the version of VLC comes out for Android. On 28/04/2015 4:39 AM, Sunshine wrote: what would you like to know about foobar 2000? On 4/27/2015 1:33 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Very appropriate to talk about Foolbar here I guess. On 27/04/2015 12:43 PM, Andrea Sherry wrote: Is there a list for this program? Andrea -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: lossless streaming via bluetooth
So, if I plug one end of a cable into my iPhone's headphone sock and the other end into my hifi's aux input, that will be lossless and when I stream with my Express it will be digital? is the difference then analog versus digital? - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 10:31 AM Subject: Re: lossless streaming via bluetooth To put it bluntly, think of Lossless Streaming as if you had two devices each connected by a good quality physical audio/video cable or cables. On 22/04/2015 6:28 PM, Fanus wrote: Hello Dane and list Well, let me disclose my ignorance: what is meant by lossless? Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 10:16 AM Subject: Re: lossless streaming via bluetooth You have to get Bluetooth adapters and receivers that are capable of Lossless Bluetooth streaming and most are not. Its pretty hit and miss when you're talking about streaming via Bluetooth when the devices are in different rooms. And finally, the iPhone is not capable of streaming Lossless Bluetooth, a lot of the newer Android phones are capable of doing this and they include the Samsung Note4, S6 etc, that's why a lot of mobile phones use either DLNA or AirPlay depending on your choice of phone, the streaming is lossless and it can be done over longer distances though granted usually you have to have a Wi-Fi network as your foundation when doing this.. On 22/04/2015 4:10 PM, André van Deventer wrote: Hi all Changed the subject line but to some extent it is still related to the lossless streaming of music. Is it at all viable to use Bluetooth to stream lossless music from two rooms situated next to each other. This might also be an option for me to use. Unfortuantely my situation is a bit more complicated than usual. I have an induction loop system in my flat through my computer’s speech also has to go in order for me to hear it.The loop’s input is connected to my hifi’s output also. So I need to find a way for my computer’s speech also to go to the next room!! So Wifi may not be the way to go? I suppose FM transmission is not very good at this stage? That is why I was also thinking of using Bluetooth? Andre -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves
Re: lossless streaming via bluetooth
Hello Dane and list Well, let me disclose my ignorance: what is meant by lossless? Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 10:16 AM Subject: Re: lossless streaming via bluetooth You have to get Bluetooth adapters and receivers that are capable of Lossless Bluetooth streaming and most are not. Its pretty hit and miss when you're talking about streaming via Bluetooth when the devices are in different rooms. And finally, the iPhone is not capable of streaming Lossless Bluetooth, a lot of the newer Android phones are capable of doing this and they include the Samsung Note4, S6 etc, that's why a lot of mobile phones use either DLNA or AirPlay depending on your choice of phone, the streaming is lossless and it can be done over longer distances though granted usually you have to have a Wi-Fi network as your foundation when doing this.. On 22/04/2015 4:10 PM, André van Deventer wrote: Hi all Changed the subject line but to some extent it is still related to the lossless streaming of music. Is it at all viable to use Bluetooth to stream lossless music from two rooms situated next to each other. This might also be an option for me to use. Unfortuantely my situation is a bit more complicated than usual. I have an induction loop system in my flat through my computer’s speech also has to go in order for me to hear it.The loop’s input is connected to my hifi’s output also. So I need to find a way for my computer’s speech also to go to the next room!! So Wifi may not be the way to go? I suppose FM transmission is not very good at this stage? That is why I was also thinking of using Bluetooth? Andre -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves
Re: lossless streaming via bluetooth
Hallo Andre Unfortunately the express keeps the voiceover speech on the phone or if you transmit from PC the jrfw speech stays on the pc. Bluetooth does transmit the speech but as I stated at least with cheap bt devices there is a slight reduction in quality. - Original Message - From: "André van Deventer" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 9:25 AM Subject: RE: lossless streaming via bluetooth Fanus Thanx man My problem is that the hifi is connected to my induction loop through I also have to listen to the computer speech. It seems that the airport express will not allow me to transmit the computer speech as well as the music through wifi? -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Fanus Sent: 22 April 2015 09:19 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: lossless streaming via bluetooth Hallo Andre I hear what you say. I do have an Bt transmitter and receiver but I do find that there is a loss in quality, especially when the two devices are more than five meters apart. In the same room, no problem but even in adjacent rooms with a brick wall between, I can hear a bit of drop in quality, however I use this for casual background music and then it is not a problem. I must admit that my bt devices are cheap stuff. The price of each was less than R400.00, so maybe there are more expensive bt devices. The problem is that I could not find any of these in SA, so fortunately my son was in Germany last year and he could purchase the devices there. Interestingly enough, the receiver is a German product, speedlink, and although it was so cheap, it has built-in speech tellling me when it switches on and of and also telling when it is paring. Reggards Fanus Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "André van Deventer" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 8:10 AM Subject: lossless streaming via bluetooth Hi all Changed the subject line but to some extent it is still related to the lossless streaming of music. Is it at all viable to use Bluetooth to stream lossless music from two rooms situated next to each other. This might also be an option for me to use. Unfortuantely my situation is a bit more complicated than usual. I have an induction loop system in my flat through my computer's speech also has to go in order for me to hear it.The loop's input is connected to my hifi's output also. So I need to find a way for my computer's speech also to go to the next room!! So Wifi may not be the way to go? I suppose FM transmission is not very good at this stage? That is why I was also thinking of using Bluetooth? Andre
Re: SV: lossless music streaming by wifi
Hello Andre Not with the Express because it does not have an input port. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "André van Deventer" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 8:02 AM Subject: RE: SV: lossless music streaming by wifi Another angle on this. If you can stream music to your computer from your iphone through the airport express, can you do it the other way round, i.e. stream music from your to your iphone? Just curious. André -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 22 April 2015 12:53 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: SV: lossless music streaming by wifi Nice, I'll have to see where I can find one, as far as I know Amazon don't ship electronic goods to Australia. On 22/04/2015 8:23 AM, Tim Grady wrote: Sure does. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 6:16 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: SV: lossless music streaming by wifi Now that's nice! a cheap DAC for an iPhone and its about time there was one. So I take it this device supports AirPlay and does it support DLNA as well? On 22/04/2015 8:01 AM, Tim Grady wrote: I have something called a veetop sold by amazon that will do what you want for $36 American and even sports an optical output. The manual isn't great and therefor it only got a 3.7 ranking on Amazon. Asside from the audio, you can transmit to your wi-fi or if you are traveling in a car directly to it from a smart phone or Idevice. It originally sold for something like $89 but is now $36. Because of the louxy manual, Amazon does have an instruction page you can get to by clicking on the veetop link in the description. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 10:51 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: SV: lossless music streaming by wifi Thanks for that, I'll follow this one up as I'm looking for something that supports DLNA, my Denon AVR2113 and other devices support DLNA but I'm looking for a "Stand-Alone" device similar to the Airport Express so I can hook that up to other devices with a line-in. I did know of other solutions but wanted to keep the thing simple and cost affective as the person who started the discussion was on a budget. Arcam for example have a complete AirPlay DAC solution which replaces the Airport Express, its $800 though - I'm sure its worth every penny knowing the quality of Arcam gear -. Only my musings of course but - when it comes to audio quality - I think I'd rather put my faith in company's with a reputation for audio quality such as Arcam rather than those that don't have a reputation for audio quality such as Dlink but - having said all that - I appreciate that we're all on a limited budget and have to do the best we can do with what we can afford. On 21/04/2015 12:37 AM, brianolesen wrote: Hi, Actually there are other great solutions as well. DLink has a very cool one. DCH-M225 It supports a wider span of protocols. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan Sendt: 19. april 2015 20:07 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi the output jack of the Airport Express is a line-out jack, the jack is a 3.5MM jack which can either be used for analogue or digital line-out. On 20/04/2015 4:01 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Dane Can you please explain. If I want to invest in this I would like to know as much as possible. Also, do you know whether the 3.5 mm jack is a high impedence output as for connection to stereo systems or a low impedence output as for use with headphones? My system does not have digital inputs and I do not have the funds to invest in this at this stage. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 19 April 2015 07:45 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi Come again? Who said anything about using iTunesw, there are other options that can be used. On 20/04/2015 3:22 AM, Fanus wrote: Hello I think Andre's problem is that he does not want to use iTunes to stream. I too have the Express and unlike many folks I like iTunes. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 7:08 PM Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi This can be made so very simple, buy an Apple Airport Express plug it into the Line-in of your Hi-Fi in the other room and stream to your hearts content. If your Hi-Fi has a digital input th
Re: lossless streaming via bluetooth
Hallo Andre I hear what you say. I do have an Bt transmitter and receiver but I do find that there is a loss in quality, especially when the two devices are more than five meters apart. In the same room, no problem but even in adjacent rooms with a brick wall between, I can hear a bit of drop in quality, however I use this for casual background music and then it is not a problem. I must admit that my bt devices are cheap stuff. The price of each was less than R400.00, so maybe there are more expensive bt devices. The problem is that I could not find any of these in SA, so fortunately my son was in Germany last year and he could purchase the devices there. Interestingly enough, the receiver is a German product, speedlink, and although it was so cheap, it has built-in speech tellling me when it switches on and of and also telling when it is paring. Reggards Fanus Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "André van Deventer" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 8:10 AM Subject: lossless streaming via bluetooth Hi all Changed the subject line but to some extent it is still related to the lossless streaming of music. Is it at all viable to use Bluetooth to stream lossless music from two rooms situated next to each other. This might also be an option for me to use. Unfortuantely my situation is a bit more complicated than usual. I have an induction loop system in my flat through my computer's speech also has to go in order for me to hear it.The loop's input is connected to my hifi's output also. So I need to find a way for my computer's speech also to go to the next room!! So Wifi may not be the way to go? I suppose FM transmission is not very good at this stage? That is why I was also thinking of using Bluetooth? Andre
Re: lossless music streaming by wifi
Hello Dane Ok, thanks for that one. Just as a matter of interest: have you ever tried to streem to the Express from another portable device which is not Apple related but which can connect to wifi? I thought that it is the airplay function which causes the streaming and which keeps voiceOver voice on the iDevice. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 7:46 PM Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi Yes is the answer to both points. You use a utility to stream the music from your computer called Airfoil, you select what you want streamed, you can stream Applications, a line-in source, from your CD-ROM drive etc. On 20/04/2015 3:33 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Dane Is the streaming lossless? And can you use the media player of your choice? I would not like to be stuck with itunes. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 19 April 2015 07:09 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi This can be made so very simple, buy an Apple Airport Express plug it into the Line-in of your Hi-Fi in the other room and stream to your hearts content. If your Hi-Fi has a digital input then you can make full use of this by using the digital output of the Airport Express. You can also put the Airport Express to good use as an extra Wireless Access Point, Wireless Extender etc. I think the Airport Express is only $50 now, about the same cost as a good RCA lead and yep, I wouldn't like to risk running a long RCA lead, the possability of more interference and loss of quality is certainly there. I don't want to brag but streaming around my house is my passion so yeah, I like to think I know one or two things about streaming or getting audio/video from one location to another . On 20/04/2015 2:46 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Hi all Am moving to a new flat and have to sort out my sound stuff now. I play all my music through the computer now. My hifi system will be standing in one room and my computer in another one. So I need to get the sound from one to the other. I have the following options: 1.Using the output of a digital to audio converter and lay down an RCA to RCA cable of quite a few meters from one room to the other. This might be the cheapest way. But with such a long cable you will start to find interference as these cables are not supposed to be so long. And you do also get some sound reduction. 2.Using some kind of LAN device. I do not know if such a thing exist at all – a device with which you can stream music ythrough LAN that has an analog output. It would also necessitate the laying of long cables which could also be a problem. 3.Then there is the option I may want to examine. My question is whether with the technology available today it is possible to stream music in lossless format through a WIFI connection. I would like to do this using my media player of choice which is Foobar 2000 at present. I don’t want to use Itunes as I find it cumbersome and limited. Any suggestions about which way to go? -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves
Re: lossless music streaming by wifi
It does not help you say there's other options if you don't tell what they are. Andre wants a solution and it doesn't say there are options if he does not know what they are. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "André van Deventer" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 8:01 PM Subject: RE: lossless music streaming by wifi Dane Can you please explain. If I want to invest in this I would like to know as much as possible. Also, do you know whether the 3.5 mm jack is a high impedence output as for connection to stereo systems or a low impedence output as for use with headphones? My system does not have digital inputs and I do not have the funds to invest in this at this stage. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 19 April 2015 07:45 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi Come again? Who said anything about using iTunesw, there are other options that can be used. On 20/04/2015 3:22 AM, Fanus wrote: Hello I think Andre's problem is that he does not want to use iTunes to stream. I too have the Express and unlike many folks I like iTunes. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 7:08 PM Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi This can be made so very simple, buy an Apple Airport Express plug it into the Line-in of your Hi-Fi in the other room and stream to your hearts content. If your Hi-Fi has a digital input then you can make full use of this by using the digital output of the Airport Express. You can also put the Airport Express to good use as an extra Wireless Access Point, Wireless Extender etc. I think the Airport Express is only $50 now, about the same cost as a good RCA lead and yep, I wouldn't like to risk running a long RCA lead, the possability of more interference and loss of quality is certainly there. I don't want to brag but streaming around my house is my passion so yeah, I like to think I know one or two things about streaming or getting audio/video from one location to another . On 20/04/2015 2:46 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Hi all Am moving to a new flat and have to sort out my sound stuff now. I play all my music through the computer now. My hifi system will be standing in one room and my computer in another one. So I need to get the sound from one to the other. I have the following options: 1.Using the output of a digital to audio converter and lay down an RCA to RCA cable of quite a few meters from one room to the other. This might be the cheapest way. But with such a long cable you will start to find interference as these cables are not supposed to be so long. And you do also get some sound reduction. 2.Using some kind of LAN device. I do not know if such a thing exist at all - a device with which you can stream music ythrough LAN that has an analog output. It would also necessitate the laying of long cables which could also be a problem. 3.Then there is the option I may want to examine. My question is whether with the technology available today it is possible to stream music in lossless format through a WIFI connection. I would like to do this using my media player of choice which is Foobar 2000 at present. I don't want to use Itunes as I find it cumbersome and limited. Any suggestions about which way to go? -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves
Re: lossless music streaming by wifi
Hello I think Andre's problem is that he does not want to use iTunes to stream. I too have the Express and unlike many folks I like iTunes. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 7:08 PM Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi This can be made so very simple, buy an Apple Airport Express plug it into the Line-in of your Hi-Fi in the other room and stream to your hearts content. If your Hi-Fi has a digital input then you can make full use of this by using the digital output of the Airport Express. You can also put the Airport Express to good use as an extra Wireless Access Point, Wireless Extender etc. I think the Airport Express is only $50 now, about the same cost as a good RCA lead and yep, I wouldn't like to risk running a long RCA lead, the possability of more interference and loss of quality is certainly there. I don't want to brag but streaming around my house is my passion so yeah, I like to think I know one or two things about streaming or getting audio/video from one location to another . On 20/04/2015 2:46 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Hi all Am moving to a new flat and have to sort out my sound stuff now. I play all my music through the computer now. My hifi system will be standing in one room and my computer in another one. So I need to get the sound from one to the other. I have the following options: 1.Using the output of a digital to audio converter and lay down an RCA to RCA cable of quite a few meters from one room to the other. This might be the cheapest way. But with such a long cable you will start to find interference as these cables are not supposed to be so long. And you do also get some sound reduction. 2.Using some kind of LAN device. I do not know if such a thing exist at all – a device with which you can stream music ythrough LAN that has an analog output. It would also necessitate the laying of long cables which could also be a problem. 3.Then there is the option I may want to examine. My question is whether with the technology available today it is possible to stream music in lossless format through a WIFI connection. I would like to do this using my media player of choice which is Foobar 2000 at present. I don’t want to use Itunes as I find it cumbersome and limited. Any suggestions about which way to go? -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves
Re: An email list of interest to persons whom are blind or low vision
Hi Frank Are you sure it must be a blank message? I did that and got a reply that no command was found. Must there not perhaps be the word "subscribe" in the subject field? Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "Frank Ventura" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 11:29 AM Subject: An email list of interest to persons whom are blind or low vision Hi everyone, this is a quick note to let folks know that there is now an email list for persons to discuss topics relating to audio or video equipment from the perspective of a blind of low vision person. Topics can include discussion of purchasing, use, setup, maintenance, collecting of a variety of equipment, video players, DVD/Blue Ray plays, HT PCs, TVs, speakers, tuners, receivers, amps, tape decks, CD players, turntables, etc. To subscribe send a blank email to: blindav-requ...@freelists.org Once subscribed you can introduce yourself by sending a message to: blin...@freelists.org tanks and enjoy Frank
Re: Mac Mini Update
Hello Armando and Dane While you are so helpful, maybe I can just ask for one bit of advice at this point in time. While I am constantly seeking for portable solutions I have this drawback that I have a sensory problem so I find it very difficult to type on the bluetooth keyboards. Does apple have a full size keyboard where the keys are not on the same level i.e. like the full pc keyboards where the rows are like little steps? Even if it is a usb keyboard? Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "Armando Maldonado" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:40 PM Subject: RE: Mac Mini Update Hello Fanus, Not a problem. You can also join the macvoiceover list and the mac3theblind lists. They are resourceful as well. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Fanus Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:39 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Mac Mini Update Hello Dane and Armando Thanks a lot for the info. I admit that I was a bit lazy, I could have downloaded the user guide but this is why this list is such a valuable source. Thanks to all who do not mind to answer questions from uninformed people. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "Armando Maldonado" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:34 PM Subject: RE: Mac Mini Update The firewire port is basically for transferring files if you have a supported device, as well as if you have a monitor that uses that kind of plug. Thunderbolt is Apple's way of either plugging in a monitor, which you would need a special adapter if you have a VGA monitor and it can also be used to transfer data if you have the proper drive for this. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Fanus Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:31 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Mac Mini Update Hello Thanks for the info but what is a firewire port and a thunderbolt port? For what are they used? Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "Armando Maldonado" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:27 PM Subject: RE: Mac Mini Update Hello, the Mac Mini is indeed as you described. In addition to the 4 USB 3.0 ports, you also have a firewire port, HDMI, Thunderbolt port, one input line-in, one speaker jack and a memory card reader. Hope this helps. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Fanus Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:24 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Mac Mini Update Hello Dane It sounds very interesting but forgive my lack of knowledge. Am I correct that the Mac Mini is a fairly small box with no built-in keyboard or screen, in other words, one plugs in a keyboard and a screen if one needs one. What other ports does the mini have? Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:18 PM Subject: Mac Mini Update Hi! I’ve had my new Mac Mini for about a month now and thought I’d share some observations with you. The Mac Mini is fast turning into my main computer of choice because of its speed and power, here’s an example which I think illustrates the point rather well. I’m testing a Mp3 player, I deleted all my Mp3 collection a few weeks back so I needed to create or download some more, given I have a good FLAC collection it made sense I guess to convert some of those, I started with the Beatles Singles collection 4 CD set from 1962-1970 which contains more than 40 tracks. Conversion was over in around 30 seconds and I was using the highest settings with the LAME MP3 encoder to get the best I could out of it, on my Windows desktop and other machines such a conversion task would have taken around 20 minutes or even longer. I spoke to someone about this and he reckoned it would have only taken 5 seconds or so with his Mac Pro machine and so it ought to given that his machine contains 8 quad core i7 processors , mine only contains one but I think the major contributing factor here is the Fusion Drive that my Mac Mini uses, put simply a fusion drive is a 1TB standard hard drive with a 128GB SSD drive incorporated into the design, when idle the operating system decides what resides on the SSD and what doesn’t based on the most accessed files, most run applications and so on. Now I’m not writing this post as an advertisement for Mac Mini machines as I’m sure similar can be accomplished with Windows PC’s, I’m writing this because I’m amazed at just how far we’ve come, encoding and creating of MP3 files used to take hours if not many minutes not all that long ago. ** Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.
Re: Mac Mini Update
Hello Dane and Armando Thanks a lot for the info. I admit that I was a bit lazy, I could have downloaded the user guide but this is why this list is such a valuable source. Thanks to all who do not mind to answer questions from uninformed people. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "Armando Maldonado" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:34 PM Subject: RE: Mac Mini Update The firewire port is basically for transferring files if you have a supported device, as well as if you have a monitor that uses that kind of plug. Thunderbolt is Apple's way of either plugging in a monitor, which you would need a special adapter if you have a VGA monitor and it can also be used to transfer data if you have the proper drive for this. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Fanus Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:31 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Mac Mini Update Hello Thanks for the info but what is a firewire port and a thunderbolt port? For what are they used? Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "Armando Maldonado" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:27 PM Subject: RE: Mac Mini Update Hello, the Mac Mini is indeed as you described. In addition to the 4 USB 3.0 ports, you also have a firewire port, HDMI, Thunderbolt port, one input line-in, one speaker jack and a memory card reader. Hope this helps. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Fanus Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:24 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Mac Mini Update Hello Dane It sounds very interesting but forgive my lack of knowledge. Am I correct that the Mac Mini is a fairly small box with no built-in keyboard or screen, in other words, one plugs in a keyboard and a screen if one needs one. What other ports does the mini have? Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:18 PM Subject: Mac Mini Update Hi! I’ve had my new Mac Mini for about a month now and thought I’d share some observations with you. The Mac Mini is fast turning into my main computer of choice because of its speed and power, here’s an example which I think illustrates the point rather well. I’m testing a Mp3 player, I deleted all my Mp3 collection a few weeks back so I needed to create or download some more, given I have a good FLAC collection it made sense I guess to convert some of those, I started with the Beatles Singles collection 4 CD set from 1962-1970 which contains more than 40 tracks. Conversion was over in around 30 seconds and I was using the highest settings with the LAME MP3 encoder to get the best I could out of it, on my Windows desktop and other machines such a conversion task would have taken around 20 minutes or even longer. I spoke to someone about this and he reckoned it would have only taken 5 seconds or so with his Mac Pro machine and so it ought to given that his machine contains 8 quad core i7 processors , mine only contains one but I think the major contributing factor here is the Fusion Drive that my Mac Mini uses, put simply a fusion drive is a 1TB standard hard drive with a 128GB SSD drive incorporated into the design, when idle the operating system decides what resides on the SSD and what doesn’t based on the most accessed files, most run applications and so on. Now I’m not writing this post as an advertisement for Mac Mini machines as I’m sure similar can be accomplished with Windows PC’s, I’m writing this because I’m amazed at just how far we’ve come, encoding and creating of MP3 files used to take hours if not many minutes not all that long ago. ** Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
Re: Mac Mini Update
Hello Thanks for the info but what is a firewire port and a thunderbolt port? For what are they used? Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "Armando Maldonado" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:27 PM Subject: RE: Mac Mini Update Hello, the Mac Mini is indeed as you described. In addition to the 4 USB 3.0 ports, you also have a firewire port, HDMI, Thunderbolt port, one input line-in, one speaker jack and a memory card reader. Hope this helps. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Fanus Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:24 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Mac Mini Update Hello Dane It sounds very interesting but forgive my lack of knowledge. Am I correct that the Mac Mini is a fairly small box with no built-in keyboard or screen, in other words, one plugs in a keyboard and a screen if one needs one. What other ports does the mini have? Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:18 PM Subject: Mac Mini Update Hi! I’ve had my new Mac Mini for about a month now and thought I’d share some observations with you. The Mac Mini is fast turning into my main computer of choice because of its speed and power, here’s an example which I think illustrates the point rather well. I’m testing a Mp3 player, I deleted all my Mp3 collection a few weeks back so I needed to create or download some more, given I have a good FLAC collection it made sense I guess to convert some of those, I started with the Beatles Singles collection 4 CD set from 1962-1970 which contains more than 40 tracks. Conversion was over in around 30 seconds and I was using the highest settings with the LAME MP3 encoder to get the best I could out of it, on my Windows desktop and other machines such a conversion task would have taken around 20 minutes or even longer. I spoke to someone about this and he reckoned it would have only taken 5 seconds or so with his Mac Pro machine and so it ought to given that his machine contains 8 quad core i7 processors , mine only contains one but I think the major contributing factor here is the Fusion Drive that my Mac Mini uses, put simply a fusion drive is a 1TB standard hard drive with a 128GB SSD drive incorporated into the design, when idle the operating system decides what resides on the SSD and what doesn’t based on the most accessed files, most run applications and so on. Now I’m not writing this post as an advertisement for Mac Mini machines as I’m sure similar can be accomplished with Windows PC’s, I’m writing this because I’m amazed at just how far we’ve come, encoding and creating of MP3 files used to take hours if not many minutes not all that long ago. ** Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
Re: Mac Mini Update
Hello Dane It sounds very interesting but forgive my lack of knowledge. Am I correct that the Mac Mini is a fairly small box with no built-in keyboard or screen, in other words, one plugs in a keyboard and a screen if one needs one. What other ports does the mini have? Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:18 PM Subject: Mac Mini Update Hi! I’ve had my new Mac Mini for about a month now and thought I’d share some observations with you. The Mac Mini is fast turning into my main computer of choice because of its speed and power, here’s an example which I think illustrates the point rather well. I’m testing a Mp3 player, I deleted all my Mp3 collection a few weeks back so I needed to create or download some more, given I have a good FLAC collection it made sense I guess to convert some of those, I started with the Beatles Singles collection 4 CD set from 1962-1970 which contains more than 40 tracks. Conversion was over in around 30 seconds and I was using the highest settings with the LAME MP3 encoder to get the best I could out of it, on my Windows desktop and other machines such a conversion task would have taken around 20 minutes or even longer. I spoke to someone about this and he reckoned it would have only taken 5 seconds or so with his Mac Pro machine and so it ought to given that his machine contains 8 quad core i7 processors , mine only contains one but I think the major contributing factor here is the Fusion Drive that my Mac Mini uses, put simply a fusion drive is a 1TB standard hard drive with a 128GB SSD drive incorporated into the design, when idle the operating system decides what resides on the SSD and what doesn’t based on the most accessed files, most run applications and so on. Now I’m not writing this post as an advertisement for Mac Mini machines as I’m sure similar can be accomplished with Windows PC’s, I’m writing this because I’m amazed at just how far we’ve come, encoding and creating of MP3 files used to take hours if not many minutes not all that long ago. ** Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
archos studio recording problem
Hello list I don't know whether this question is allowed on the list but if not, Please forgive me. I try to record via the line-in of my Archos Studio 20GB player. As long as sound is coming in, it records but if there is just a moment of silence then the recording stops and the file is closed. I looked everywhere in the settings but I can not find a setting that has to do with silences. If this is not off topic, can someone please suggest a solution? I may add that I installed the latest rockbox version for the Archos but even if I reinstall the original the result is the same. Regards Fanus
Re: accessible free sound recorder
Hello Andre I use CDEX. It is simple but one has to use the jaws cursor a bit but one can record .wav or mp3 and others. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "André van Deventer" To: Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 8:46 PM Subject: accessible free sound recorder Hi all I'm looking for some kind of recording program free if possibly than can record in .wav format. It does not have to have any editing capabilities at all - something like the windows sound recorder but which can record in .wav. Does anyone know of something like that that will run on windows 7 and with jaws 14? I have audacity yes but would like to get something simpler which can record in good quality sound in a simple way. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: might be off topic but a question
Hi Andre How much does the service cost and what sport can one listen? Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "André van Deventer" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 11:58 AM Subject: RE: might be off topic but a question Joe Indeed there is! Try www.witopia.com It is not free but it works wonderfully! That is what I am using at presently. You can mail me directly at andred...@webafrica.org.za if I can be of any further assistance. Andre -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Joe Bollard Sent: 05 February 2013 11:47 AM To: pc- audio Subject: might be off topic but a question hello friends, i live in the republic of ireland, therefore, i cannot access on line the bbc radio five live sports commentaries at the weekend, the radio reception on the a-m band leaves a lot to be desired, is there any way i can access sports commentaries from the bbc on line, any help will be really appreciated, and apologies if this is off topic, take care, travel safely, joe bollard. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: text allowed question
Hello I do not have the link but you can google it. That's how I found it. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "Jörgen Hansson" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 10:17 AM Subject: Re: text allowed question hello there! is there a link to this balabolka program for download? I'd like to try that myself. have a nice day. Regards, Jörgen Hansson! Tel: +46 70-3601296 Website: www.jorgenhansson.com Skype: djtropical4532 -Ursprungligt meddelande- From: Fanus Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 8:20 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: text allowed question Hello Brian I use text aloud and it is not free but these days I prefer a free program, Balabolka. It is very easy to use and I find it much easier to select different voices. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "brian parker" To: Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 7:44 PM Subject: text allowed question Hi list, some years ago, i installed text allowed on the computer i had then. i found it practically impossible to use, as i couldn't tab through the boxes. i have a more modern computer using windows seven. is anyone out there using test allowed, and how satisfactory do you find it. also, are there any other text to speech programmes. i can't remember now, whether text allowed is a free programme. if it is one for sale, i have no objection to paying for it, if it will do a reasonable job in conversion text to speech. i would welcome opinions and comments. brian. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: text allowed question
Hello Brian I use text aloud and it is not free but these days I prefer a free program, Balabolka. It is very easy to use and I find it much easier to select different voices. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "brian parker" To: Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 7:44 PM Subject: text allowed question Hi list, some years ago, i installed text allowed on the computer i had then. i found it practically impossible to use, as i couldn't tab through the boxes. i have a more modern computer using windows seven. is anyone out there using test allowed, and how satisfactory do you find it. also, are there any other text to speech programmes. i can't remember now, whether text allowed is a free programme. if it is one for sale, i have no objection to paying for it, if it will do a reasonable job in conversion text to speech. i would welcome opinions and comments. brian. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: wanting to listen to rugby union Australia vs Wales later today
Hi Andre Usually fivelive extra says (for UK only) but when I visited the sight two hours ago it did not say that, so I hope it will work. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "André van Deventer" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 4:00 PM Subject: RE: wanting to listen to rugby union Australia vs Wales later today Fanus! Let's hope that they don't block us from outside of the UK out as they often do. I went to bbc sport wales and that is the message I get. You can quite possibly get it on the welsh radio station if you can understand a word of what they're saying! Andre -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Fanus Sent: 03 December 2011 03:55 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: wanting to listen to rugby union Australia vs Wales later today Hi Andre It looks like BBC five live sports extra wil stream the match. Regtards Fanus - Original Message - From: "André van Deventer" To: ; "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 3:32 PM Subject: wanting to listen to rugby union Australia vs Wales later today Hi folks I suppose it is probably too late to ask about this now as folks especially in Australia may not get this. But I would really like to listen to online radio commentary of the upcoming rugby test between the Walabies and the Welsh in Cardiff later today. Does anyone know where I would be listen to a stream of this? Andre To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: wanting to listen to rugby union Australia vs Wales later today
Hi Andre It looks like BBC five live sports extra wil stream the match. Regtards Fanus - Original Message - From: "André van Deventer" To: ; "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 3:32 PM Subject: wanting to listen to rugby union Australia vs Wales later today Hi folks I suppose it is probably too late to ask about this now as folks especially in Australia may not get this. But I would really like to listen to online radio commentary of the upcoming rugby test between the Walabies and the Welsh in Cardiff later today. Does anyone know where I would be listen to a stream of this? Andre To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Airfoil For Windows, an accessibility improvement
Hello Dane I downloaded the airfoil update but when I try to install it says I need some or other .net frame profile ... and it gives me an option to download it but there is no specific link on the microsoft page. Do you know how I should go about to get the correct file? Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 9:19 PM Subject: Airfoil For Windows, an accessibility improvement Okay foks, here's an accessibility enhancement in Airfoil For Windows I've been waiting for, I've written to the developers about the issue of selecting the target for transmission of input source for quite some time. Up until recently the only way you could select a target was to take pot luck by tabbing around the screen or moving the mouse, pressing a button and hoping for the best. Some Screen reading software such as WE allowed labeling and customisation of the buttons but this didn't seem to work all that well but it worked well enough in most cases. Now output points such as Apple TV'S, Airport Express units, Iphones, Ipads and other computers running the "Airfoil Speakers" application are listed in the menu which is accessed by pressing the "Alt" key, select the device you want to transmit to, wait a couple of seconds and transmission of your selected source starts. Conversely if you wish to stop transmission, select the device from the menu and press return, transmission of audio stops. Under new versions of Airfoil, you can transmit your source to multiple devices or instances of computers/Iphones/Ipads running "Airfoil Speakers" on your network. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: program to turn text files into audio files but using eloquence
Hi Andre If you install the trial version of k1000 (kurzweil reader) you get eloquence. If you then use balabolka you can convert text to a .mp3 with the jaws Reid voice. I do not know about the UK english Reid voice. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "André van Deventer" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 5:16 PM Subject: program to turn text files into audio files but using eloquence Hi all I know there are several programs that would allow you to turn text files into audio files in mp3 format using the sapi voices on the computer. However, I find the very odd phrasing of especially the realspeak voices a bit difficult to understand. Hence my question: Has anyone ever written such a programme which turns text files into audio files using the Eloquence speech synthesizer? That would also mean if you e.g. like the british voice, it then uses the british voice as it is already installed on your computer? Just curious. Andre To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: latest winamp which works with jaws
Hi Chris Well, I downloaded and installed ninite but when I run it, it said that my installed version is newer but mine is v5.08D and I am sure there are later versions. On the site it says Ninite looks for the latest version but this is obviously not correct. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "chris hallsworth" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 6:02 PM Subject: Re: latest winamp which works with jaws You can generate a Ninite installer of Winamp at www.ninite.com/winamp. The latest and greatest will work providing you tell Winamp to use the classic and not the modern skin. Chris Hallsworth Sent from Thunderbird On 02/09/2011 16:21, Fanus wrote: > Hello list > Can someone please tell where I can download the latest > version of winamp which works well with jaws? > Regards > Fanus > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
latest winamp which works with jaws
Hello list Can someone please tell where I can download the latest version of winamp which works well with jaws? Regards Fanus To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
no sound in winamp
Hello List All of a sudden I hear no sound when I try to play a song in winamp. The song plays in goldwave. Maybe I changed a winamp setting by accident. Can someone please help. Regards Fanus To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Apple TV
Hi Listers Forgive my ignorance but what is Apple-TV? Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "Brett Boyer" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:03 AM Subject: Re: Apple TV Hi I tend to agree. It must be because in our small comunity of blind folks. They are finally doing something about accessibility. I commend them for that being a new Apple customer myself. bb Brett Boyer Production / Program Director KZBR 97.1 FM Alamosa Colorado www.kzbr971.com Morning show. Comedy Block. Rockin Hits 24 / 7 - Original Message - From: "Gary Wood" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 8:20 AM Subject: Re: Apple TV > It sounds like more and more, people are getting sweet on > apple! > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 6:49 AM > Subject: Re: Apple TV > > >> Yes, they're called DSP's or Digital Sound Processors but >> by the time you >> go down that road? Well, as the original sender says, >> "Time to look at >> the sales". >> >> Another way round it, just hook the Apple TV to a TV >> using HDMI, new TV'S >> with HDMI connectivity are bargains to be had. >> >> >> On 29/11/2010, at 9:11 PM, Damon Rose wrote: >> >>> There are some devices which turn optical to analogue if >>> useful. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org >>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary >>> King >>> Sent: 27 November 2010 23:00 >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: Apple TV >>> >>> I would like to try the Apple TV now that it is >>> accessible, but at the >>> moment I don't have anything with either an optical or >>> an HDMI input. >>> Time to check those big sales again, I guess! >>> >>> Gary King >>> w4...@bellsouth.net >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Dane Trethowan" >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >>> Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 12:12 PM >>> Subject: Apple TV >>> >>> >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> One of the things I'm very much looking forward to this >>>> week is the >>>> arrival of my Apple TV, I'm sure others will write >>>> pieces on this >>> multi >>>> media device in due course along with myself, I'll be >>>> making reference >>> to >>>> it often on my TTwitter and I'll be doing various >>>> reviews of it on my >>>> blog. >>>> >>>> In short this device which is around 3 inches square >>>> allows the >>> streaming >>>> of media from Itunes computers or other compatible >>>> devices on your >>>> network, Youtunes videos, Netflicks, etc to your TV or >>>> an audio device >>> >>>> through the Optical digital or HDMI connections on the >>>> device, you >>> control >>>> what you hear with a remote control, not unlike that >>>> which used to >>> come as >>>> standard with the Apple Imac and Macbook computers. >>>> >>>> Apple TV now supports accessibility through Voiceover >>>> so - once set up >>> - a >>>> blind person can browse their media library and so on >>>> deciding what to >>> >>>> hear. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org >>> >>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/ >>> This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and >>> may contain >>> personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless >>> specifically >>> stated. >>> If you have received it in error, please delete it from >>> your system. >>> Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way >>> nor act in >>> reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. >>> Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or >>> received. >>> Further communication will signify your consent to this. >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Skype Scripts For Jaws?
Hi Listers A while ago Chris gave the site from which one can download skype scrypts. On that site it gives skrypts for skype v4.2 but on the skype site it seems that the latest version of skype is v4.1. Where can I get skype v4.2? Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: "Chris Hallsworth" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 1:29 AM Subject: Re: Skype Scripts For Jaws? Hi you can get the Skype scripts from www.dlee.org/skype. Hope this helps. Chris Hallsworth e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 I am also on Facebook. On 05/01/2010 22:55, Paul Hutson wrote: > Hi all. > > Yeah, guess I am "Johnny come lately" but I'm gonna > download Skype and I've heard that there is an up to date > set of Jaws scripts for Skype. Could someone please let > me know either on list or off-list where to get them? > I am running Jaws v11.756 and thanks in advance...Paul > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4748 (20100106) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4776 (20100115) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
eloquence
Hello Listers Does anyone know where one can purchase a stand-alone version of eloquence? Regards Fanus __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4633 (20091124) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
