Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player
that works when the player is in pause mode. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 1:26 PM Subject: Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player Jerry and list: Yes..but what about the feature that is supposed to enable the player to shut down if the player is turned on..but not actually in use? Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player
There is no special book shelf firmware, and if you'd had the latest version of the firmware, you shouldn't have had to do anything. Here's what it says at the BARD Talk FAQ at http://www.bardtalk.com/faq.php: 4. How can I access the player's bookshelf feature and why is this not mentioned in the built-in user guide? Answer: The bookshelf feature was added with firmware version 2.1.0 and the built-in user guide has not been updated to discuss this feature. First, make sure your player's firmware is version 2.1.0 or higher using the method discussed in FAQ 5. To access the bookshelf, hold down the Play key until the player announces Bookshelf and the number of books on your media and the current book number selected. To move to another book, use the Forward and Rewind keys on the standard player and the Next and Previous keys on the advanced player. When located at the desired book, press Play to start reading. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com On 5/4/2010 12:12 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote: High Tom, Yes, that is the latest firmware update. Mine came with that version of firmware on it already. The only firmware installation I had to do is, download and install the Bookshelf firmware. That was the only thing that was wrong with mine. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:28 PM Subject: Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player Hello Adrian and list: Just experimented a little with the On-off switch after reading your post; I have a cartridge in there at the moment and..it works just as yours does! Perhaps I didn't quite have the right touch on that button! As for the Firmware..I've checked that out..and it is 2.1.3; is this the latest one? Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player
Hello Chris, I did do that after putting a couple of books on an LNS cartridge. But I found that not to be the case. And so I had to download the Bookshelf firmware and install it on the player. In spite of the fact that they tell you this on their website, it's not always true. I'm telling you this from my own personal experience, that's what I had to do. John. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 8:53 AM Subject: Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player There is no special book shelf firmware, and if you'd had the latest version of the firmware, you shouldn't have had to do anything. Here's what it says at the BARD Talk FAQ at http://www.bardtalk.com/faq.php: 4. How can I access the player's bookshelf feature and why is this not mentioned in the built-in user guide? Answer: The bookshelf feature was added with firmware version 2.1.0 and the built-in user guide has not been updated to discuss this feature. First, make sure your player's firmware is version 2.1.0 or higher using the method discussed in FAQ 5. To access the bookshelf, hold down the Play key until the player announces Bookshelf and the number of books on your media and the current book number selected. To move to another book, use the Forward and Rewind keys on the standard player and the Next and Previous keys on the advanced player. When located at the desired book, press Play to start reading. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com On 5/4/2010 12:12 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote: High Tom, Yes, that is the latest firmware update. Mine came with that version of firmware on it already. The only firmware installation I had to do is, download and install the Bookshelf firmware. That was the only thing that was wrong with mine. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:28 PM Subject: Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player Hello Adrian and list: Just experimented a little with the On-off switch after reading your post; I have a cartridge in there at the moment and..it works just as yours does! Perhaps I didn't quite have the right touch on that button! As for the Firmware..I've checked that out..and it is 2.1.3; is this the latest one? Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player
Ah, OK. I understand. It wasn't my intention to challenge your personal experience. My experience agreed with the web site, namely I had the latest FW on my player, and I didn't need to do anything special to access the bookshelf mode on my player. I'm curious, what special bookshelf firmware did you have to install? I've only ever seen the firmware listed on the NLS site. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com On 5/4/2010 9:50 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote: Hello Chris, I did do that after putting a couple of books on an LNS cartridge. But I found that not to be the case. And so I had to download the Bookshelf firmware and install it on the player. In spite of the fact that they tell you this on their website, it's not always true. I'm telling you this from my own personal experience, that's what I had to do. John. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 8:53 AM Subject: Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player There is no special book shelf firmware, and if you'd had the latest version of the firmware, you shouldn't have had to do anything. Here's what it says at the BARD Talk FAQ at http://www.bardtalk.com/faq.php: 4. How can I access the player's bookshelf feature and why is this not mentioned in the built-in user guide? Answer: The bookshelf feature was added with firmware version 2.1.0 and the built-in user guide has not been updated to discuss this feature. First, make sure your player's firmware is version 2.1.0 or higher using the method discussed in FAQ 5. To access the bookshelf, hold down the Play key until the player announces Bookshelf and the number of books on your media and the current book number selected. To move to another book, use the Forward and Rewind keys on the standard player and the Next and Previous keys on the advanced player. When located at the desired book, press Play to start reading. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com On 5/4/2010 12:12 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote: High Tom, Yes, that is the latest firmware update. Mine came with that version of firmware on it already. The only firmware installation I had to do is, download and install the Bookshelf firmware. That was the only thing that was wrong with mine. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:28 PM Subject: Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player Hello Adrian and list: Just experimented a little with the On-off switch after reading your post; I have a cartridge in there at the moment and..it works just as yours does! Perhaps I didn't quite have the right touch on that button! As for the Firmware..I've checked that out..and it is 2.1.3; is this the latest one? Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player
Hello Chris, What I had to download, is a zip folder that's called, DTPM_latest_software.zip. Inside that folder, is another file that's called, upgrade. I never opened the folder to see what kind of files are in it, but I got it from their firmware web page. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 11:47 AM Subject: Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player Ah, OK. I understand. It wasn't my intention to challenge your personal experience. My experience agreed with the web site, namely I had the latest FW on my player, and I didn't need to do anything special to access the bookshelf mode on my player. I'm curious, what special bookshelf firmware did you have to install? I've only ever seen the firmware listed on the NLS site. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com On 5/4/2010 9:50 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote: Hello Chris, I did do that after putting a couple of books on an LNS cartridge. But I found that not to be the case. And so I had to download the Bookshelf firmware and install it on the player. In spite of the fact that they tell you this on their website, it's not always true. I'm telling you this from my own personal experience, that's what I had to do. John. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 8:53 AM Subject: Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player There is no special book shelf firmware, and if you'd had the latest version of the firmware, you shouldn't have had to do anything. Here's what it says at the BARD Talk FAQ at http://www.bardtalk.com/faq.php: 4. How can I access the player's bookshelf feature and why is this not mentioned in the built-in user guide? Answer: The bookshelf feature was added with firmware version 2.1.0 and the built-in user guide has not been updated to discuss this feature. First, make sure your player's firmware is version 2.1.0 or higher using the method discussed in FAQ 5. To access the bookshelf, hold down the Play key until the player announces Bookshelf and the number of books on your media and the current book number selected. To move to another book, use the Forward and Rewind keys on the standard player and the Next and Previous keys on the advanced player. When located at the desired book, press Play to start reading. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com On 5/4/2010 12:12 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote: High Tom, Yes, that is the latest firmware update. Mine came with that version of firmware on it already. The only firmware installation I had to do is, download and install the Bookshelf firmware. That was the only thing that was wrong with mine. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:28 PM Subject: Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player Hello Adrian and list: Just experimented a little with the On-off switch after reading your post; I have a cartridge in there at the moment and..it works just as yours does! Perhaps I didn't quite have the right touch on that button! As for the Firmware..I've checked that out..and it is 2.1.3; is this the latest one? Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player
The standard model I originally had didn't have the bookshelf feature either. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 9:47 AM Subject: Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player Ah, OK. I understand. It wasn't my intention to challenge your personal experience. My experience agreed with the web site, namely I had the latest FW on my player, and I didn't need to do anything special to access the bookshelf mode on my player. I'm curious, what special bookshelf firmware did you have to install? I've only ever seen the firmware listed on the NLS site. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com On 5/4/2010 9:50 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote: Hello Chris, I did do that after putting a couple of books on an LNS cartridge. But I found that not to be the case. And so I had to download the Bookshelf firmware and install it on the player. In spite of the fact that they tell you this on their website, it's not always true. I'm telling you this from my own personal experience, that's what I had to do. John. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 8:53 AM Subject: Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player There is no special book shelf firmware, and if you'd had the latest version of the firmware, you shouldn't have had to do anything. Here's what it says at the BARD Talk FAQ at http://www.bardtalk.com/faq.php: 4. How can I access the player's bookshelf feature and why is this not mentioned in the built-in user guide? Answer: The bookshelf feature was added with firmware version 2.1.0 and the built-in user guide has not been updated to discuss this feature. First, make sure your player's firmware is version 2.1.0 or higher using the method discussed in FAQ 5. To access the bookshelf, hold down the Play key until the player announces Bookshelf and the number of books on your media and the current book number selected. To move to another book, use the Forward and Rewind keys on the standard player and the Next and Previous keys on the advanced player. When located at the desired book, press Play to start reading. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com On 5/4/2010 12:12 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote: High Tom, Yes, that is the latest firmware update. Mine came with that version of firmware on it already. The only firmware installation I had to do is, download and install the Bookshelf firmware. That was the only thing that was wrong with mine. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:28 PM Subject: Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player Hello Adrian and list: Just experimented a little with the On-off switch after reading your post; I have a cartridge in there at the moment and..it works just as yours does! Perhaps I didn't quite have the right touch on that button! As for the Firmware..I've checked that out..and it is 2.1.3; is this the latest one? Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player
Hello all, Let me put my two cents in on the subject of NLS players. I have had mine since October or November and have used it extensively, but am no techy expert. first, if the player is working correctly, the only way I believe it could tgo from 15 hours to one would be if you forgot to turn off the book or fell asleep while not using the sleep timer. The player will play until the book is finished if you don't use the sleep timer. This could be many hours. Secondly, on the BARD home page there is a link to check on the newest software. It will give each version and what changes were included in each version. The bookshelf feature was programmed in to the latest version. Jerry Howell Jerry Howell - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 7:08 PM Subject: Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player Yes..I know about the sleep timer (a neat feature)..although I don't use it in the manner that a lot of folks use it; I like to sometimes listen as I'm exercising; I'll set it for thirty minutes and..when it stops, I know that the thirty minutes are up..and I can stop walking! Tom Kaufman (aka Tomcat) To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player
Jerry and list: Yes..but what about the feature that is supposed to enable the player to shut down if the player is turned on..but not actually in use? Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player
Hello Jerry, Mine has 2.1.0.3. So if this is true about what you say about the latest version having the Bookshelf included in it, then why didn't it work for me? Why did I have to download it and install it on my NLS player. As I said in an earlier post, that's not always the kase. If you ask me, this is an oversight on their part. Because not all the machines have the Bookshelf firmware on them, mine didn't. John. - Original Message - From: Jerry Howell howell1...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 2:33 PM Subject: Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player Hello all, Let me put my two cents in on the subject of NLS players. I have had mine since October or November and have used it extensively, but am no techy expert. first, if the player is working correctly, the only way I believe it could tgo from 15 hours to one would be if you forgot to turn off the book or fell asleep while not using the sleep timer. The player will play until the book is finished if you don't use the sleep timer. This could be many hours. Secondly, on the BARD home page there is a link to check on the newest software. It will give each version and what changes were included in each version. The bookshelf feature was programmed in to the latest version. Jerry Howell Jerry Howell - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 7:08 PM Subject: Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player Yes..I know about the sleep timer (a neat feature)..although I don't use it in the manner that a lot of folks use it; I like to sometimes listen as I'm exercising; I'll set it for thirty minutes and..when it stops, I know that the thirty minutes are up..and I can stop walking! Tom Kaufman (aka Tomcat) To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player
I may be missing your point since you didn't include the message you're responding to, but my understanding of how the NLS player works, and the way I want it to work, is that if I'm listening to a book then I want it to play until I turn it off or I enable the sleep mode. I don't want it to shut off every 30 minutes. Jus because I'm not pressing a button. If I pause a book, pull out the cartridge, ..., but leave it on then I want it to shut off after 30 minutes, which I think it does. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 2:26 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player Jerry and list: Yes..but what about the feature that is supposed to enable the player to shut down if the player is turned on..but not actually in use? Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player
Interesting, but the file you're referring to is just the latest firmware for the NLS player, which is currently version 2.1.3. It isn't any special bookshelf software. Since you said you were already at the latest level of firmware, I wonder what was going on with your player. I wonder if somehow the previous upgrade to 2.1.3 didn't fully take but did update the announce of the FW level. Maybe upgrading again got it to take. Oh well, the bottom line is that you got it working, and we'll never know what the original problem was. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 11:21 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player Hello Chris, What I had to download, is a zip folder that's called, DTPM_latest_software.zip. Inside that folder, is another file that's called, upgrade. I never opened the folder to see what kind of files are in it, but I got it from their firmware web page. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 11:47 AM Subject: Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player Ah, OK. I understand. It wasn't my intention to challenge your personal experience. My experience agreed with the web site, namely I had the latest FW on my player, and I didn't need to do anything special to access the bookshelf mode on my player. I'm curious, what special bookshelf firmware did you have to install? I've only ever seen the firmware listed on the NLS site. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com On 5/4/2010 9:50 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote: Hello Chris, I did do that after putting a couple of books on an LNS cartridge. But I found that not to be the case. And so I had to download the Bookshelf firmware and install it on the player. In spite of the fact that they tell you this on their website, it's not always true. I'm telling you this from my own personal experience, that's what I had to do. John. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 8:53 AM Subject: Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player There is no special book shelf firmware, and if you'd had the latest version of the firmware, you shouldn't have had to do anything. Here's what it says at the BARD Talk FAQ at http://www.bardtalk.com/faq.php: 4. How can I access the player's bookshelf feature and why is this not mentioned in the built-in user guide? Answer: The bookshelf feature was added with firmware version 2.1.0 and the built-in user guide has not been updated to discuss this feature. First, make sure your player's firmware is version 2.1.0 or higher using the method discussed in FAQ 5. To access the bookshelf, hold down the Play key until the player announces Bookshelf and the number of books on your media and the current book number selected. To move to another book, use the Forward and Rewind keys on the standard player and the Next and Previous keys on the advanced player. When located at the desired book, press Play to start reading. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com On 5/4/2010 12:12 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote: High Tom, Yes, that is the latest firmware update. Mine came with that version of firmware on it already. The only firmware installation I had to do is, download and install the Bookshelf firmware. That was the only thing that was wrong with mine. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:28 PM Subject: Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player Hello Adrian and list: Just experimented a little with the On-off switch after reading your post; I have a cartridge in there at the moment and..it works just as yours does! Perhaps I didn't quite have the right touch on that button! As for the Firmware..I've checked that out..and it is 2.1.3; is this the latest one? Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player
High Chris, I think I know what Tom is getting at here. Some how, he is getting in inaccurate reading of his battery life or the kind of charge he has left in it after a time. If the player isn't playing a book, then it's suppose to turn itself off after a half-hour. But Tom's player doesn't do that. I spoke to a Mr. Dave Bond via email at the Bard Talk website about this problem. He says, that maybe the battery checks are messed up. He suggested that Tom calls his cooperating library and ask them to send hem a replacement NLS player. But to me, it sounds like something is wrong with the program or if you will, the firmware that's on that particular machine. Maybe the firmware needs to be uninstalled and reinstalled. But there isn't anything that suggest how to go about doing that to one of these players. Tom, if you're reading this, you may wish to call your library and tell them about the problem you're experiencing with your player. Maybe they mite have a suggestion for you on what you can do about it. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 6:01 PM Subject: RE: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player I may be missing your point since you didn't include the message you're responding to, but my understanding of how the NLS player works, and the way I want it to work, is that if I'm listening to a book then I want it to play until I turn it off or I enable the sleep mode. I don't want it to shut off every 30 minutes. Jus because I'm not pressing a button. If I pause a book, pull out the cartridge, ..., but leave it on then I want it to shut off after 30 minutes, which I think it does. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 2:26 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player Jerry and list: Yes..but what about the feature that is supposed to enable the player to shut down if the player is turned on..but not actually in use? Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Hello Christopher and list: Yes..that's what I'm getting at (if the machine is on.._+_but idle_..it's supposed to shut off in thirty minutes. Apparently, (if I did, in fact, forget to turn it off the other night)..it didn't shut off..thus..yesterday, I only had an hour's worth of power! I can live with it as I have a feeling there aren't that many players out there; I'll just need to make sure I have the machine turned off when I'm finished! Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player
Hi Tom, If the player is actually on, but the play button hasn't been pressed, there may be a problem with the unit if it doesn't shut off after 30 minutes when it is on battery power. I really have to watch it though, because since the book starts if a cartridge is in and the on button is pressed, If I think I am turning the unit off when it is actually already off, I may be turning it on and starting a book that may go on for hours. I may do this if I take my ear phones out before pressing buttons and don't hear what the player is doing. Jerry - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 3:26 PM Subject: Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player Jerry and list: Yes..but what about the feature that is supposed to enable the player to shut down if the player is turned on..but not actually in use? Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player
Hi John, You may be correct, but from the BARD site there are no four digit versions. They all have three digits. You mension below that you have 2.1.0.3. so I am not sure what you had. when I got my player it was version 2.0.3. This didn't have the book shelf feature. The BARD site says it started in version 2.1.0 If you did have atleast 2.1 something, and didn't have the bookshelf feature, then it is a very strange thing. Jerry - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoctorp @att.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 3:51 PM Subject: Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player Hello Jerry, Mine has 2.1.0.3. So if this is true about what you say about the latest version having the Bookshelf included in it, then why didn't it work for me? Why did I have to download it and install it on my NLS player. As I said in an earlier post, that's not always the kase. If you ask me, this is an oversight on their part. Because not all the machines have the Bookshelf firmware on them, mine didn't. John. - Original Message - From: Jerry Howell howell1...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 2:33 PM Subject: Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player Hello all, Let me put my two cents in on the subject of NLS players. I have had mine since October or November and have used it extensively, but am no techy expert. first, if the player is working correctly, the only way I believe it could tgo from 15 hours to one would be if you forgot to turn off the book or fell asleep while not using the sleep timer. The player will play until the book is finished if you don't use the sleep timer. This could be many hours. Secondly, on the BARD home page there is a link to check on the newest software. It will give each version and what changes were included in each version. The bookshelf feature was programmed in to the latest version. Jerry Howell Jerry Howell - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 7:08 PM Subject: Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player Yes..I know about the sleep timer (a neat feature)..although I don't use it in the manner that a lot of folks use it; I like to sometimes listen as I'm exercising; I'll set it for thirty minutes and..when it stops, I know that the thirty minutes are up..and I can stop walking! Tom Kaufman (aka Tomcat) To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Hello Tom, I never used the sleep timer on my NLS player, so I have not experienced that problem yet. But I will do some digging and get back to you off list with my findings. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 5:17 PM Subject: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player Hello List: I realize that this isn't Bard Talk (I'm not on that list)..but I know that some of you use the NLS players..and maybe you can tell me if you've run into this: I apparently forgot to turn my player off last night! This shouldn't be a problem, since it's supposed to shut itself off if not playing a book..right? Apparently not! Last night, I think it still had fifteen hours left. But today when I started to listen to a book, it informed me that it only had an hour! But it didn't even give me that much; I had taken the player out to the porch so I could listen while I took my walk on the treadmill (I had set the sleep timer for thirty minutes)..well..I actually started about ten minutes before I took the machine out there...I had been out on the porch, walking along and listening to my book..when it suddenly said battery low; player off! And with that, it stopped! So my question is: what's with the thirty minutes thing (is it..or is it not..supposed to shut itself off if you stop playing a book..but don't actually turn off the power? If you'd rather write me offlist concerning this matter, my email is tomca...@comcast.net If you choose to write me offlist, please put something in the subject line to indicate that you are replying to my question concerning the NLS digital player! Thanks, Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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John: Thanks; I'm not even sure that the sleep timer even figures into what's going on here; I just put that in to let everyone know what I had been doing at the time. A friend of mine also had this experience (she left the power turned on)..then, the next day, it was almost run down..so it makes me a little curious as to what's going on as (according to the manual..as well as the description on the power button)..if the player is not in use, it's supposed to shut down to conserve power! If this is not happening..no big deal..only users should be aware of what's happening (or not happening)..as it were..again..thanks, John for checking this out! Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Tom, if the player is not plugged in, it should shut off after 30 minutes of inactivity. I don't know what is up with yours. earlier, Tom Kaufman, wrote: Hello List: I realize that this isn't Bard Talk (I'm not on that list)..but I know that some of you use the NLS players..and maybe you can tell me if you've run into this: I apparently forgot to turn my player off last night! This shouldn't be a problem, since it's supposed to shut itself off if not playing a book..right? Apparently not! Last night, I think it still had fifteen hours left. But today when I started to listen to a book, it informed me that it only had an hour! But it didn't even give me that much; I had taken the player out to the porch so I could listen while I took my walk on the treadmill (I had set the sleep timer for thirty minutes)..well..I actually started about ten minutes before I took the machine out there...I had been out on the porch, walking along and listening to my book..when it suddenly said battery low; player off! And with that, it stopped! So my question is: what's with the thirty minutes thing (is it..or is it not..supposed to shut itself off if you stop playing a book..but don't actually turn off the power? If you'd rather write me offlist concerning this matter, my email is tomca...@comcast.net If you choose to write me offlist, please put something in the subject line to indicate that you are replying to my question concerning the NLS digital player! Thanks, Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org John Currently in Ocala, Florida Clear, 91°F Wind:WSW-240° at 12mph gusting to 20mph Non-reciprocal principle: If you add a cup of wine to a barrel of sewage, you get a barrel of sewage. If you add a cup of sewage to a barrel of wine, you get a barrel of sewage. Created by Weather Signature v1.31 http://www.weathersig.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Tom, It sounds to me that there are two separate issues. First, I've found that the NLS player's sleep option works by turning off the machine after the designated time has elapsed. It does so automatically. Otherwise, what would be the point? It's supposed to accommodate people who fall asleep while reading and to save battery power. Also, as you say, the machine is supposed to switch off regardless if not in use for half an hour. I think your machine must be defective. If your machine does have a defect, what may be a more difficult question arises. I believe NLS is still behind on its DTB shipments. You'd need to check your NLS branch to find out what they can do concerning repair and replacement. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 5:17 PM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player Hello List: I realize that this isn't Bard Talk (I'm not on that list)..but I know that some of you use the NLS players..and maybe you can tell me if you've run into this: I apparently forgot to turn my player off last night! This shouldn't be a problem, since it's supposed to shut itself off if not playing a book..right? Apparently not! Last night, I think it still had fifteen hours left. But today when I started to listen to a book, it informed me that it only had an hour! But it didn't even give me that much; I had taken the player out to the porch so I could listen while I took my walk on the treadmill (I had set the sleep timer for thirty minutes)..well..I actually started about ten minutes before I took the machine out there...I had been out on the porch, walking along and listening to my book..when it suddenly said battery low; player off! And with that, it stopped! So my question is: what's with the thirty minutes thing (is it..or is it not..supposed to shut itself off if you stop playing a book..but don't actually turn off the power? If you'd rather write me offlist concerning this matter, my email is tomca...@comcast.net If you choose to write me offlist, please put something in the subject line to indicate that you are replying to my question concerning the NLS digital player! Thanks, Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Are you sure the player wasn't playing anything? Did you have a book paused or something? It could be a defective player. I would definitely report it to your regional library. It may be addressed in a firmware update, and you may not have to replace the player. Either way, NLS needs to know about it if they're going to fix it. I think the battery indicator is just an approximation. I only ever hear it announce how many hours are left. I never hear anything about how many minutes are left, so hearing that you only have an hour left means you could have quite a bit less than that. I think the reason is shuts itself off before the battery gets totally drained is to protect the battery. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com On 5/3/2010 4:54 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote: Tom, It sounds to me that there are two separate issues. First, I've found that the NLS player's sleep option works by turning off the machine after the designated time has elapsed. It does so automatically. Otherwise, what would be the point? It's supposed to accommodate people who fall asleep while reading and to save battery power. Also, as you say, the machine is supposed to switch off regardless if not in use for half an hour. I think your machine must be defective. If your machine does have a defect, what may be a more difficult question arises. I believe NLS is still behind on its DTB shipments. You'd need to check your NLS branch to find out what they can do concerning repair and replacement. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 5:17 PM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player Hello List: I realize that this isn't Bard Talk (I'm not on that list)..but I know that some of you use the NLS players..and maybe you can tell me if you've run into this: I apparently forgot to turn my player off last night! This shouldn't be a problem, since it's supposed to shut itself off if not playing a book..right? Apparently not! Last night, I think it still had fifteen hours left. But today when I started to listen to a book, it informed me that it only had an hour! But it didn't even give me that much; I had taken the player out to the porch so I could listen while I took my walk on the treadmill (I had set the sleep timer for thirty minutes)..well..I actually started about ten minutes before I took the machine out there...I had been out on the porch, walking along and listening to my book..when it suddenly said battery low; player off! And with that, it stopped! So my question is: what's with the thirty minutes thing (is it..or is it not..supposed to shut itself off if you stop playing a book..but don't actually turn off the power? If you'd rather write me offlist concerning this matter, my email is tomca...@comcast.net If you choose to write me offlist, please put something in the subject line to indicate that you are replying to my question concerning the NLS digital player! Thanks, Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Hello again list: Well..as best as I remember, last night it had fifteen hours left. But today when I turned it on, it said an hour..so I can't remember if I shut the power off last night or not! As has been stated, if you're not listening to a book (and don't turn off the machine's power)..it's supposed to shut off in thirty minutes. I have a friend who ran into this same thing! But let me ask this: is there a place on the Bard Talk site that tells if there is new firmware available? It may be as was mentioned..if there is a problem, it may be that a firmware update will take care of this! Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Yes..I know about the sleep timer (a neat feature)..although I don't use it in the manner that a lot of folks use it; I like to sometimes listen as I'm exercising; I'll set it for thirty minutes and..when it stops, I know that the thirty minutes are up..and I can stop walking! Tom Kaufman (aka Tomcat) To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Tom, Another thought. The defect in my DTB player is that after I turn it off, it will turn itself back on if I leave a cartridge or memory card in it. Mine was one of the first issued, and I know other early recipients encountered something similar. Is it possible your machine shares the same defect? The answer, in that case, would be to remove whatever storage device you're using when you turn off the machine. Because of the short supply of DTB players, I don't plan to get mine fixed because I can live with it. By the way, like yours, mine reports remaining battery life in increments of time -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 7:06 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player Hello again list: Well..as best as I remember, last night it had fifteen hours left. But today when I turned it on, it said an hour..so I can't remember if I shut the power off last night or not! As has been stated, if you're not listening to a book (and don't turn off the machine's power)..it's supposed to shut off in thirty minutes. I have a friend who ran into this same thing! But let me ask this: is there a place on the Bard Talk site that tells if there is new firmware available? It may be as was mentioned..if there is a problem, it may be that a firmware update will take care of this! Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Adrian and list: I'm not certain..but I think I had taken the cartridge out last night. If I know for sure that it's not going to turn itself off, I'll just remember (and I usually have been able to)..to just turn the power off when I am finished! Speaking of that Power thing..has anyone noticed that it's a bit tricky? It also seems to be hard to tell when you have turned it on..and when you've turned it off..that is..unless you hold the button down; then..it will go into that mode where it'll tell you all about what the button does! Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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The BARD Talk web site does tell you what the latest firmware level is and how to check the level you have on your player. It also provides a link to the NLS site, which you can check in case the BARD Talk site isn't totally current yet. I suspect you have the latest firmware though. Last I knew, it hadn't been updated in a while. I think updates also come on cartridges from the NLS, so you're player would be updated automatically if you've listened to an NLS cartridge recently. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 6:06 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player Hello again list: Well..as best as I remember, last night it had fifteen hours left. But today when I turned it on, it said an hour..so I can't remember if I shut the power off last night or not! As has been stated, if you're not listening to a book (and don't turn off the machine's power)..it's supposed to shut off in thirty minutes. I have a friend who ran into this same thing! But let me ask this: is there a place on the Bard Talk site that tells if there is new firmware available? It may be as was mentioned..if there is a problem, it may be that a firmware update will take care of this! Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Tom, I find the on-off switch announces Player on and Player off. A firm but not overly long press produces these verbalizations. The machine always goes into key identification mode when neither a cartridge nor memory card is inserted. Insertion of a cartridge or card puts the player into playback mode. Again, this is how my machine works, which corresponds to what it's supposed to do. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 7:32 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player Adrian and list: I'm not certain..but I think I had taken the cartridge out last night. If I know for sure that it's not going to turn itself off, I'll just remember (and I usually have been able to)..to just turn the power off when I am finished! Speaking of that Power thing..has anyone noticed that it's a bit tricky? It also seems to be hard to tell when you have turned it on..and when you've turned it off..that is..unless you hold the button down; then..it will go into that mode where it'll tell you all about what the button does! Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Hello Adrian and list: Just experimented a little with the On-off switch after reading your post; I have a cartridge in there at the moment and..it works just as yours does! Perhaps I didn't quite have the right touch on that button! As for the Firmware..I've checked that out..and it is 2.1.3; is this the latest one? Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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You may need to contact your library. Mine stops and turns itself off if I'm in pause mode for more than 30 minutes. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 3:17 PM Subject: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player Hello List: I realize that this isn't Bard Talk (I'm not on that list)..but I know that some of you use the NLS players..and maybe you can tell me if you've run into this: I apparently forgot to turn my player off last night! This shouldn't be a problem, since it's supposed to shut itself off if not playing a book..right? Apparently not! Last night, I think it still had fifteen hours left. But today when I started to listen to a book, it informed me that it only had an hour! But it didn't even give me that much; I had taken the player out to the porch so I could listen while I took my walk on the treadmill (I had set the sleep timer for thirty minutes)..well..I actually started about ten minutes before I took the machine out there...I had been out on the porch, walking along and listening to my book..when it suddenly said battery low; player off! And with that, it stopped! So my question is: what's with the thirty minutes thing (is it..or is it not..supposed to shut itself off if you stop playing a book..but don't actually turn off the power? If you'd rather write me offlist concerning this matter, my email is tomca...@comcast.net If you choose to write me offlist, please put something in the subject line to indicate that you are replying to my question concerning the NLS digital player! Thanks, Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Last I checked that was the latest level of the NLS player firmware. Just to be sure, I went to the BARD site myself and checked. It is still the latest level of firmware. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 9:29 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player Hello Adrian and list: Just experimented a little with the On-off switch after reading your post; I have a cartridge in there at the moment and..it works just as yours does! Perhaps I didn't quite have the right touch on that button! As for the Firmware..I've checked that out..and it is 2.1.3; is this the latest one? Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Good news, Tom. and Christopher, I'm glad you followed up on that part of the question, which I neglected to. As I recall, the upgrade was made available last November. I wish NLS had the ability to notify users of firmware or other upgrades by email or on the download site instead of expecting us to sift through messages from yet one more list. That is no disparagement of this worthy PC-Audio list. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:41 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player Last I checked that was the latest level of the NLS player firmware. Just to be sure, I went to the BARD site myself and checked. It is still the latest level of firmware. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 9:29 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player Hello Adrian and list: Just experimented a little with the On-off switch after reading your post; I have a cartridge in there at the moment and..it works just as yours does! Perhaps I didn't quite have the right touch on that button! As for the Firmware..I've checked that out..and it is 2.1.3; is this the latest one? Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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High Tom, Yes, that is the latest firmware update. Mine came with that version of firmware on it already. The only firmware installation I had to do is, download and install the Bookshelf firmware. That was the only thing that was wrong with mine. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:28 PM Subject: Re: Looking For Some Information Concerning NLS Player Hello Adrian and list: Just experimented a little with the On-off switch after reading your post; I have a cartridge in there at the moment and..it works just as yours does! Perhaps I didn't quite have the right touch on that button! As for the Firmware..I've checked that out..and it is 2.1.3; is this the latest one? Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
