Re: creative zen stone

2009-03-17 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I've only personally played with two players running Rockbox, but they 
were both equal with respect to navigating menus, , folders and managing 
your MP3 files. I would think that all players running Rockbox would be 
equivalent in this respect. The only differences I would see would be 
the controls of the player themselves. My iRiver has a slide bar and my 
Sansa has a scroll wheel.


John Chilelli wrote:

Hey everyone,

I need an mp3 player for carrying around my school notes that I need 
to review regularly.  They are all in an mp3 format.  In your 
appreciated opinions, which of the Rockbox supported players offer the 
most robust Rockbox accessibility to menues, folders and various mp3 
file management.


Thanks so much,

John

At 12:09 AM 3/14/2009, you wrote:

True, Rockbox isn't supported on the Zen Stone.

As far as Creative Lite is concerned, maybe the author of those JFW 
scripts will update them to work with JFW 10. Do you still have JFW 
9? Maybe you could switch back when you needed to run Creative Lite.


Rockbox is great, and I occasionally use Creative Lite myself, but 
IMHO, the Zen Stone is simple enough that it doesn't need Rockbox or 
Creative Lite for that matter.


Constantine wrote:

Hi

Ok, first off:
http://www.rockbox.org
Rockbox doesn't support this player, and why should it, as it only 
has a few simple functions - please read up on said website before 
posting.

Secondly, scripts for what? JFW lite is outdated.
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I have a creative zen stone 2 GB model.  Is there anyway of making 
it talk with rockbox?  The scripts of creative lite don't seem to 
work with JFW 10. Help will be welcome.  Thank you.

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Re: creative zen stone

2009-03-14 Thread John Chilelli

Hey everyone,

I need an mp3 player for carrying around my school notes that I need 
to review regularly.  They are all in an mp3 format.  In your 
appreciated opinions, which of the Rockbox supported players offer 
the most robust Rockbox accessibility to menues, folders and various 
mp3 file management.


Thanks so much,

John

At 12:09 AM 3/14/2009, you wrote:

True, Rockbox isn't supported on the Zen Stone.

As far as Creative Lite is concerned, maybe the author of those JFW 
scripts will update them to work with JFW 10. Do you still have JFW 
9? Maybe you could switch back when you needed to run Creative Lite.


Rockbox is great, and I occasionally use Creative Lite myself, but 
IMHO, the Zen Stone is simple enough that it doesn't need Rockbox or 
Creative Lite for that matter.


Constantine wrote:

Hi

Ok, first off:
http://www.rockbox.org
Rockbox doesn't support this player, and why should it, as it only 
has a few simple functions - please read up on said website before posting.

Secondly, scripts for what? JFW lite is outdated.
contact details:

email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca

and others
msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com
skype: the_conman283

system details:
Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc
AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, 
Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio

- Original Message - From: Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com
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Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:11 PM
Subject: creative zen stone


I have a creative zen stone 2 GB model.  Is there anyway of making 
it talk with rockbox?  The scripts of creative lite don't seem to 
work with JFW 10. Help will be welcome.  Thank you.

Ketan Kothari
Phone: [r] 24223281,
Cell: 9987550614
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Re: creative zen stone

2009-03-13 Thread Constantine

Hi

Ok, first off:
http://www.rockbox.org
Rockbox doesn't support this player, and why should it, as it only has a few 
simple functions - please read up on said website before posting.

Secondly, scripts for what? JFW lite is outdated.
contact details:

email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca

and others
msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com
skype: the_conman283

system details:
Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc
AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 
100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio
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Subject: creative zen stone


I have a creative zen stone 2 GB model.  Is there anyway of making it talk 
with rockbox?  The scripts of creative lite don't seem to work with JFW 10. 
Help will be welcome.  Thank you.

Ketan Kothari
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creative zen stone

2009-03-13 Thread Ketan Kothari
I have a creative zen stone 2 GB model.  Is there anyway of making it talk with 
rockbox?  The scripts of creative lite don't seem to work with JFW 10.  Help 
will be welcome.  Thank you.
Ketan Kothari
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Re: creative zen stone

2009-03-13 Thread Christopher Chaltain

True, Rockbox isn't supported on the Zen Stone.

As far as Creative Lite is concerned, maybe the author of those JFW 
scripts will update them to work with JFW 10. Do you still have JFW 9? 
Maybe you could switch back when you needed to run Creative Lite.


Rockbox is great, and I occasionally use Creative Lite myself, but IMHO, 
the Zen Stone is simple enough that it doesn't need Rockbox or Creative 
Lite for that matter.


Constantine wrote:

Hi

Ok, first off:
http://www.rockbox.org
Rockbox doesn't support this player, and why should it, as it only has 
a few simple functions - please read up on said website before posting.

Secondly, scripts for what? JFW lite is outdated.
contact details:

email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca

and others
msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com
skype: the_conman283

system details:
Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc
AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, 
Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio

- Original Message - From: Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:11 PM
Subject: creative zen stone


I have a creative zen stone 2 GB model.  Is there anyway of making it 
talk with rockbox?  The scripts of creative lite don't seem to work 
with JFW 10. Help will be welcome.  Thank you.

Ketan Kothari
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2008-04-19 Thread Jeff Samco
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artifacts in mp3s, was re: Creative Zen Stone

2008-03-07 Thread Chris Skarstad
hi.  Ok, maybe my ears have just never been trained to hear these 
sounds.  I can definitely tell if an mp3 has a lot of artifacts, like 
for example if a badly encoded mp3 has artifacts you'll hear a sort 
of swishy sound, that's the best way to describe it, especially with 
higher frequency stuff like symbal crashes and stuff like that.  But 
being able to tell something in the 60 to 120 hertz range? I couldn't 
tell you something like that if my life depended on it.  All I know 
is what sounds good to me, and what doesn't, but my ears aren't 
trained enough to give you specifics such as that.




At 05:56 AM 3/7/2008, you wrote:
High Jerry,
I'm concerned about this because MP3's don't really sound all that grate to
me.
Maybe there is something wrong with my ears, but if it's a loscy file of
some kind that I'm listening to, I can hear a faint ringing noise in the 60
to 120 HZ range.
And that is bother some to me.
But with lossless files, I don't hear that noise.
If the creative Zenstone can play WMA lossless files, then I'm sold on it.
But if not, then I will have to come up with a plan b as far as small
portable music players go.
   John.
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  I don't know of a difference between WMA and lossless WMA.  I thought
  WMA was pretty much a lossless format regardless.  Alls I know is what I
  read in the manual and hear from Creative technical assistance, that they
  play MP3 and WMA with no reference to lossless WMA.
 
Jerry
 
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RE: artifacts in mp3s, was re: Creative Zen Stone

2008-03-07 Thread Cornell Ligon

I know what he's describing. many compressed files, especially heard when using 
good headphones, the sound seeems too compressed - not producing all the 
different frequencies you might hear in the background as meant by the producer 
of the track.

In addition, yes, there is WMA, WMA variable bit rate, WMA pro and WMA 
lossless. I own a Pogo radio with MP3 player, which plays the first 3 formats I 
listed, but I never tried lossless format on it. It may be beneficial to 
contact tech support of the manufacturer to clerify before the purchase.

HTH!


Best Regards,
Cornell

 Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 10:54:39 -0600
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: artifacts in mp3s, was re: Creative Zen Stone

 hi. Ok, maybe my ears have just never been trained to hear these
 sounds. I can definitely tell if an mp3 has a lot of artifacts, like
 for example if a badly encoded mp3 has artifacts you'll hear a sort
 of swishy sound, that's the best way to describe it, especially with
 higher frequency stuff like symbal crashes and stuff like that. But
 being able to tell something in the 60 to 120 hertz range? I couldn't
 tell you something like that if my life depended on it. All I know
 is what sounds good to me, and what doesn't, but my ears aren't
 trained enough to give you specifics such as that.




 At 05:56 AM 3/7/2008, you wrote:
High Jerry,
I'm concerned about this because MP3's don't really sound all that grate to
me.
Maybe there is something wrong with my ears, but if it's a loscy file of
some kind that I'm listening to, I can hear a faint ringing noise in the 60
to 120 HZ range.
And that is bother some to me.
But with lossless files, I don't hear that noise.
If the creative Zenstone can play WMA lossless files, then I'm sold on it.
But if not, then I will have to come up with a plan b as far as small
portable music players go.
 John.
- Original Message -
From: Jerry Richer 
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: Creative ZenStone


 I don't know of a difference between WMA and lossless WMA. I thought
 WMA was pretty much a lossless format regardless. Alls I know is what I
 read in the manual and hear from Creative technical assistance, that they
 play MP3 and WMA with no reference to lossless WMA.

 Jerry

 Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com
 ! Edirol R-09: high quality portable stereo Secure Digital Audio recorder
 with USB, $359.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $35.00 outside,
 www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml
 ! DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $35
 outside,
 www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml
 ! J-Say 4.0 without Naturally Speaking: $650.00,
 www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml
 ! Window Eyes 6.0: $895, includes delivery in the USA,
 www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml
 ! Triple Talk: USB $450, includes delivery within the USA, add $35
 outside,
 www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml
 ! Sound Forge 9.0 with CD Architect 5.2 and Noise Reduction 2.0: $289,
 includes delivery within the USA, add $35 outside,
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 We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency
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Re: Problem with creative zen stone

2007-07-21 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I don't have any problems rewinding through a track with the Zen Stone. 
Are you sure you're holding the rewind button down long enough? It'll 
rewind about 5 seconds, play about a second, rewind about 5 seconds and 
so on, so it may sound like it's advancing through the track, when 
really it's rewinding. I hope that makes sense!

Chris Chaffin wrote:
 Hi all,
 Like everyone else, I like the zen stone and its ease of use.  I did find 
 one thing it was doing, and wanted to know if there is a way of doing a 
 certain function.

 While listening to an audio book, I found that it would skip sometimes 
 during the book.  It would only skip a little, like a sentence or two.  I 
 found out how to fast forward with the unit, but I can not find out how to 
 rewind with the unit.
 Now when I say fast forward, I do not mean moving from track to track, but 
 fast forwarding within the same track.
 If you hold down the forward button, it will move forward within the same 
 file, but the same does not work for me if I hold down the back button.
 If I hold down the back button, it still advances forward in the file.
 When it does skip while listening to an audio book, I was just going to 
 rewind it a little and try to listen to that part again to see if it did it 
 again, but like I said, I could not get it to move backward within a file.
 Now I also considered that it could be a problem with the file, so I checked 
 the file out on my computer using Winamp, and there was no skipping at all.
 Any help or suggestions with this would be appreciated.

 Thanks,
 Chris


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 Subject: Re: creative zen stone


   
 All true. If you still want to check out the Creative Media Lite
 application, you can get JFW scripts for it at
 http://www.hartgen.org/zenstone.html.

 Chris Skarstad wrote:
 
 Hi.  You really don't need the creative media lite utility as far as
 actually transfering files to the player is concerned.  You can
 simply use windows explorer and transfer them just as you would any
 other drive that shows up under windows explorer. How cool is that!
 No extra software to use, none of that.
Do you have a bit of usable vision? If so, there is a small orange
 LED light on the player that continually flashes while it's charging,
 and when it's completely charged, the light stays on.  How I do it is
 I just plug it into the USB port when I'm not using it.  It makes
 sure that I don't lose the player, and it also makes sure that it's
 fully charged all the time.  So yep, you can use the program, but you
 really don't have to, unless you're super curious.  go to

 http://www.creative.com/zenstone and it's there.

 Hope that helps.


 At 09:43 PM 7/19/2007, you wrote:

   
 Hi,
 Several people have mentioned the creative media lite utility, and how 
 you
 can monitor the zen stone's charging process with this utility.
 Where can I find this utility?
 I got no CD or anything with my zen stone.  I just plugged it in my USB
 port, and it was ready to go.
 Any help with this would be appreciated.
 And I have the 1 GB Creative Zen Stone.

 Thanks,
 Chris

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 Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:01 PM
 Subject: Re: creative zen stone



 
 My Zen Stone doesn't play while it's hooked up to the computer. You
 don't have to wait until it's fully charged before you start listening
 to it though! :-) I haven't timed how long it takes to charge, but the
 Creative Media Lite utility will give you the current charge on the Zen
 Stone, so you can monitor it's charging process with that utility.

 Chris Chaffin wrote:

   
 Hi all,

 I just got my new zen stone today in the mail.
 I just plugged it up to my computer.  How long does it take to charge
 initially?
 And do I have to wait until it is done charging, or will it play while 
 it
 is
 hooked up to the computer charging?
 I just did not know if it can get its power from the USB port to play
 while
 it is charging.

 All help is appreciated.
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Re: creative zen stone

2007-07-20 Thread Christopher Chaltain
All true. If you still want to check out the Creative Media Lite 
application, you can get JFW scripts for it at 
http://www.hartgen.org/zenstone.html.

Chris Skarstad wrote:
 Hi.  You really don't need the creative media lite utility as far as 
 actually transfering files to the player is concerned.  You can 
 simply use windows explorer and transfer them just as you would any 
 other drive that shows up under windows explorer. How cool is that! 
 No extra software to use, none of that.
Do you have a bit of usable vision? If so, there is a small orange 
 LED light on the player that continually flashes while it's charging, 
 and when it's completely charged, the light stays on.  How I do it is 
 I just plug it into the USB port when I'm not using it.  It makes 
 sure that I don't lose the player, and it also makes sure that it's 
 fully charged all the time.  So yep, you can use the program, but you 
 really don't have to, unless you're super curious.  go to

 http://www.creative.com/zenstone and it's there.

 Hope that helps.


 At 09:43 PM 7/19/2007, you wrote:
   
 Hi,
 Several people have mentioned the creative media lite utility, and how you
 can monitor the zen stone's charging process with this utility.
 Where can I find this utility?
 I got no CD or anything with my zen stone.  I just plugged it in my USB
 port, and it was ready to go.
 Any help with this would be appreciated.
 And I have the 1 GB Creative Zen Stone.

 Thanks,
 Chris

 - Original Message -
 From: Christopher Chaltain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:01 PM
 Subject: Re: creative zen stone


 
 My Zen Stone doesn't play while it's hooked up to the computer. You
 don't have to wait until it's fully charged before you start listening
 to it though! :-) I haven't timed how long it takes to charge, but the
 Creative Media Lite utility will give you the current charge on the Zen
 Stone, so you can monitor it's charging process with that utility.

 Chris Chaffin wrote:
   
 Hi all,

 I just got my new zen stone today in the mail.
 I just plugged it up to my computer.  How long does it take to charge
 initially?
 And do I have to wait until it is done charging, or will it play while it
 is
 hooked up to the computer charging?
 I just did not know if it can get its power from the USB port to play
 while
 it is charging.

 All help is appreciated.
 Chris




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Problem with creative zen stone

2007-07-20 Thread Chris Chaffin
Hi all,
Like everyone else, I like the zen stone and its ease of use.  I did find 
one thing it was doing, and wanted to know if there is a way of doing a 
certain function.

While listening to an audio book, I found that it would skip sometimes 
during the book.  It would only skip a little, like a sentence or two.  I 
found out how to fast forward with the unit, but I can not find out how to 
rewind with the unit.
Now when I say fast forward, I do not mean moving from track to track, but 
fast forwarding within the same track.
If you hold down the forward button, it will move forward within the same 
file, but the same does not work for me if I hold down the back button.
If I hold down the back button, it still advances forward in the file.
When it does skip while listening to an audio book, I was just going to 
rewind it a little and try to listen to that part again to see if it did it 
again, but like I said, I could not get it to move backward within a file.
Now I also considered that it could be a problem with the file, so I checked 
the file out on my computer using Winamp, and there was no skipping at all.
Any help or suggestions with this would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Chris


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 All true. If you still want to check out the Creative Media Lite
 application, you can get JFW scripts for it at
 http://www.hartgen.org/zenstone.html.

 Chris Skarstad wrote:
 Hi.  You really don't need the creative media lite utility as far as
 actually transfering files to the player is concerned.  You can
 simply use windows explorer and transfer them just as you would any
 other drive that shows up under windows explorer. How cool is that!
 No extra software to use, none of that.
Do you have a bit of usable vision? If so, there is a small orange
 LED light on the player that continually flashes while it's charging,
 and when it's completely charged, the light stays on.  How I do it is
 I just plug it into the USB port when I'm not using it.  It makes
 sure that I don't lose the player, and it also makes sure that it's
 fully charged all the time.  So yep, you can use the program, but you
 really don't have to, unless you're super curious.  go to

 http://www.creative.com/zenstone and it's there.

 Hope that helps.


 At 09:43 PM 7/19/2007, you wrote:

 Hi,
 Several people have mentioned the creative media lite utility, and how 
 you
 can monitor the zen stone's charging process with this utility.
 Where can I find this utility?
 I got no CD or anything with my zen stone.  I just plugged it in my USB
 port, and it was ready to go.
 Any help with this would be appreciated.
 And I have the 1 GB Creative Zen Stone.

 Thanks,
 Chris

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 My Zen Stone doesn't play while it's hooked up to the computer. You
 don't have to wait until it's fully charged before you start listening
 to it though! :-) I haven't timed how long it takes to charge, but the
 Creative Media Lite utility will give you the current charge on the Zen
 Stone, so you can monitor it's charging process with that utility.

 Chris Chaffin wrote:

 Hi all,

 I just got my new zen stone today in the mail.
 I just plugged it up to my computer.  How long does it take to charge
 initially?
 And do I have to wait until it is done charging, or will it play while 
 it
 is
 hooked up to the computer charging?
 I just did not know if it can get its power from the USB port to play
 while
 it is charging.

 All help is appreciated.
 Chris




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Re: creative zen stone

2007-07-19 Thread Chris Skarstad
Hi.
What do you mean by the serial?not sure about that? the only serial 
number I know of is a number that's found on the box of the package 
when you get it, and it's usually used to register your product.
and in case anyone's doing searches for it, it's actually called the 
Creative Zen Stone, no key in there.
If by serial you mean the model number for it, there's really only 
one model and it's 1 gig, so unless you get something else, that's 
what you'll get. I've only ever seen the Creative Zen Stone in a 1 
gig model, so I believe that's all there is.







At 12:25 AM 7/19/2007, you wrote:
I was reading about the creative Zen keystone player.  Sounds pretty 
neat and not to expensive.  Does anyone have the serial for the 1 
gigabyte that's been talked about here?  Thanks Leslie
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Re: creative zen stone

2007-07-19 Thread leslie ferrell
thanks there are also some that are 2 gig.
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 Hi.
 What do you mean by the serial?not sure about that? the only serial 
 number I know of is a number that's found on the box of the package 
 when you get it, and it's usually used to register your product.
 and in case anyone's doing searches for it, it's actually called the 
 Creative Zen Stone, no key in there.
 If by serial you mean the model number for it, there's really only 
 one model and it's 1 gig, so unless you get something else, that's 
 what you'll get. I've only ever seen the Creative Zen Stone in a 1 
 gig model, so I believe that's all there is.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 At 12:25 AM 7/19/2007, you wrote:
I was reading about the creative Zen keystone player.  Sounds pretty 
neat and not to expensive.  Does anyone have the serial for the 1 
gigabyte that's been talked about here?  Thanks Leslie
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Re: creative zen stone

2007-07-19 Thread kevin and Emma
hi, there is a 2 gig version on the market now.
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Subject: Re: creative zen stone


 Hi.
 What do you mean by the serial?not sure about that? the only serial
 number I know of is a number that's found on the box of the package
 when you get it, and it's usually used to register your product.
 and in case anyone's doing searches for it, it's actually called the
 Creative Zen Stone, no key in there.
 If by serial you mean the model number for it, there's really only
 one model and it's 1 gig, so unless you get something else, that's
 what you'll get. I've only ever seen the Creative Zen Stone in a 1
 gig model, so I believe that's all there is.







 At 12:25 AM 7/19/2007, you wrote:
I was reading about the creative Zen keystone player.  Sounds pretty
neat and not to expensive.  Does anyone have the serial for the 1
gigabyte that's been talked about here?  Thanks Leslie
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Re: creative zen stone

2007-07-19 Thread fudgeman2
Hi Leslie, I have one and like it very much.  I got mine on Amazon.com
and I think I paid $33.00 for it.  But you can get different colors for
$39.00.  Hope this helps!
Jim


 
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 I was reading about the creative Zen keystone player.  Sounds pretty 
 neat and not to expensive.  Does anyone have the serial for the 1 
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creative zen stone

2007-07-19 Thread Joe Bollard
hello friends, i recently purchased the zen stone player, delighted with it,
unfortunately, i got the one gigabyte version, didn't know there was a two
gig version until a week after i had purchased this one, but really no
problem, for a totally blind person it is so easy to operate, just one thing
i need to know, how long is the running time, how many hours can i run it
before recharging it?? the headphones that come with it are rubbish, but i
do have a very natty and extremely good set of headphones that came with a
radio someone gave me last year, anyway, can someone tell me how long this
little baby runs without needing a recharge, regards from ireland, travel
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Re: creative zen stone

2007-07-19 Thread Kevin Lloyd
Hey Joe.

It's advertised running time on a full charge is 10 hours.

Regards.

Kevin
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Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 12:23 PM
Subject: creative zen stone


 hello friends, i recently purchased the zen stone player, delighted with 
 it,
 unfortunately, i got the one gigabyte version, didn't know there was a two
 gig version until a week after i had purchased this one, but really no
 problem, for a totally blind person it is so easy to operate, just one 
 thing
 i need to know, how long is the running time, how many hours can i run it
 before recharging it?? the headphones that come with it are rubbish, but i
 do have a very natty and extremely good set of headphones that came with a
 radio someone gave me last year, anyway, can someone tell me how long this
 little baby runs without needing a recharge, regards from ireland, travel
 safely, joe.



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RE: creative zen stone

2007-07-19 Thread Caroline Ford
The 2 GB model is known as the Zen Stone Plus and is supposed to be rather
less accessible than the 1 GB Zen Stone.  The Zen Stone Plus has a voice
recorder and FM radio, I believe, while the 1 GB model is just a music
player.

Caroline.

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Subject: creative zen stone


I was reading about the creative Zen keystone player.  Sounds pretty neat
and not to expensive.  Does anyone have the serial for the 1 gigabyte that's
been talked about here?  Thanks Leslie
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Re: creative zen stone

2007-07-19 Thread leslie ferrell
I'm not sure but do you happen do know the model number and how much was it? 
Thanks Leslie
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Subject: creative zen stone


 hello friends, i recently purchased the zen stone player, delighted with 
 it,
 unfortunately, i got the one gigabyte version, didn't know there was a two
 gig version until a week after i had purchased this one, but really no
 problem, for a totally blind person it is so easy to operate, just one 
 thing
 i need to know, how long is the running time, how many hours can i run it
 before recharging it?? the headphones that come with it are rubbish, but i
 do have a very natty and extremely good set of headphones that came with a
 radio someone gave me last year, anyway, can someone tell me how long this
 little baby runs without needing a recharge, regards from ireland, travel
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creative zen stone

2007-07-19 Thread Chris Chaffin
Hi all,

I just got my new zen stone today in the mail.
I just plugged it up to my computer.  How long does it take to charge 
initially?
And do I have to wait until it is done charging, or will it play while it is 
hooked up to the computer charging?
I just did not know if it can get its power from the USB port to play while 
it is charging.

All help is appreciated.
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Re: creative zen stone

2007-07-19 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Yeah this is true, but the reviews I've read, as well as my own 
experience, says it's more like six to seven hours. The Creative Media 
Lite utility does tell you whether the Zen Stone has a full charge or 
not, so you can at least make sure you're starting off with a full battery.

Kevin Lloyd wrote:
 Hey Joe.

 It's advertised running time on a full charge is 10 hours.

 Regards.

 Kevin
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 Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 12:23 PM
 Subject: creative zen stone


   
 hello friends, i recently purchased the zen stone player, delighted with 
 it,
 unfortunately, i got the one gigabyte version, didn't know there was a two
 gig version until a week after i had purchased this one, but really no
 problem, for a totally blind person it is so easy to operate, just one 
 thing
 i need to know, how long is the running time, how many hours can i run it
 before recharging it?? the headphones that come with it are rubbish, but i
 do have a very natty and extremely good set of headphones that came with a
 radio someone gave me last year, anyway, can someone tell me how long this
 little baby runs without needing a recharge, regards from ireland, travel
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Re: creative zen stone

2007-07-19 Thread Christopher Chaltain
My Zen Stone doesn't play while it's hooked up to the computer. You 
don't have to wait until it's fully charged before you start listening 
to it though! :-) I haven't timed how long it takes to charge, but the 
Creative Media Lite utility will give you the current charge on the Zen 
Stone, so you can monitor it's charging process with that utility.

Chris Chaffin wrote:
 Hi all,

 I just got my new zen stone today in the mail.
 I just plugged it up to my computer.  How long does it take to charge 
 initially?
 And do I have to wait until it is done charging, or will it play while it is 
 hooked up to the computer charging?
 I just did not know if it can get its power from the USB port to play while 
 it is charging.

 All help is appreciated.
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Re: creative zen stone

2007-07-19 Thread Chris Chaffin
Hi,
Several people have mentioned the creative media lite utility, and how you 
can monitor the zen stone's charging process with this utility.
Where can I find this utility?
I got no CD or anything with my zen stone.  I just plugged it in my USB 
port, and it was ready to go.
Any help with this would be appreciated.
And I have the 1 GB Creative Zen Stone.

Thanks,
Chris

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Subject: Re: creative zen stone


 My Zen Stone doesn't play while it's hooked up to the computer. You
 don't have to wait until it's fully charged before you start listening
 to it though! :-) I haven't timed how long it takes to charge, but the
 Creative Media Lite utility will give you the current charge on the Zen
 Stone, so you can monitor it's charging process with that utility.

 Chris Chaffin wrote:
 Hi all,

 I just got my new zen stone today in the mail.
 I just plugged it up to my computer.  How long does it take to charge
 initially?
 And do I have to wait until it is done charging, or will it play while it 
 is
 hooked up to the computer charging?
 I just did not know if it can get its power from the USB port to play 
 while
 it is charging.

 All help is appreciated.
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Re: creative zen stone

2007-07-19 Thread Chris Skarstad
Hi.  You really don't need the creative media lite utility as far as 
actually transfering files to the player is concerned.  You can 
simply use windows explorer and transfer them just as you would any 
other drive that shows up under windows explorer. How cool is that! 
No extra software to use, none of that.
   Do you have a bit of usable vision? If so, there is a small orange 
LED light on the player that continually flashes while it's charging, 
and when it's completely charged, the light stays on.  How I do it is 
I just plug it into the USB port when I'm not using it.  It makes 
sure that I don't lose the player, and it also makes sure that it's 
fully charged all the time.  So yep, you can use the program, but you 
really don't have to, unless you're super curious.  go to

http://www.creative.com/zenstone and it's there.

Hope that helps.


At 09:43 PM 7/19/2007, you wrote:
Hi,
Several people have mentioned the creative media lite utility, and how you
can monitor the zen stone's charging process with this utility.
Where can I find this utility?
I got no CD or anything with my zen stone.  I just plugged it in my USB
port, and it was ready to go.
Any help with this would be appreciated.
And I have the 1 GB Creative Zen Stone.

Thanks,
Chris

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Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: creative zen stone


  My Zen Stone doesn't play while it's hooked up to the computer. You
  don't have to wait until it's fully charged before you start listening
  to it though! :-) I haven't timed how long it takes to charge, but the
  Creative Media Lite utility will give you the current charge on the Zen
  Stone, so you can monitor it's charging process with that utility.
 
  Chris Chaffin wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I just got my new zen stone today in the mail.
  I just plugged it up to my computer.  How long does it take to charge
  initially?
  And do I have to wait until it is done charging, or will it play while it
  is
  hooked up to the computer charging?
  I just did not know if it can get its power from the USB port to play
  while
  it is charging.
 
  All help is appreciated.
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creative zen stone

2007-07-18 Thread leslie ferrell
I was reading about the creative Zen keystone player.  Sounds pretty neat and 
not to expensive.  Does anyone have the serial for the 1 gigabyte that's been 
talked about here?  Thanks Leslie
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Re: creative Zen stone won't play.

2007-06-08 Thread TrueBlue Proud
Garry, where can you purchase the Zenstone for $10.00?,
Billy
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I have been trying to find and access a manual for the Zen Stone, but 
haven't had
 any luck finding it. if someone has it, may I have it please? then I may 
 be able
 to help Alison. I think I can buy one of these players for $10.00 or so.


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 Allison,

 This is just a shot in the dark, but after reading a review of the Zen
 Stone, I recall there is a switch that you have to use to put the player 
 in
 folder navigation mode.  I am thinking that you may have to use this mode 
 to
 navigate to your music folder and then press what ever button makes a
 selection to go into the folder.

 I don't have a Zen Stone, so like I said this is just a shot in the dark
 based on what I read.  I'd be interested to know whether that worked or 
 not.


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 Subject: creative zen stone won't play.

 Hi all!
 I received my creative Zen stone today, plugged it in, deleted the sample
 tracks from the music folder, and pasted in some mp3 files of an audio 
 book.

 I waited until the player was charged, plugged in the headphones, and held
 down the play button for one second. I heard  a little popping sound which
 told me that the player had powered up, but no other sound. I tried 
 pushing
 all sides of the wheel, thinking that the volume might just be too low. I
 assume that the portion of the wheel with the little dot on it is volume 
 up.

 What could I be doing wrong? Should I have put the files in the route of 
 the

 player instead of in the music folder? Any assistance would be greatly
 appreciated.
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Re: creative Zen stone won't play.

2007-06-08 Thread TrueBlue Proud

- Original Message - 
From: Gary G Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
anyone know the best place to purchase the Zenstone here in the UK?,
BillyTo: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: creative Zen stone won't play.


I have been trying to find and access a manual for the Zen Stone, but 
haven't had
 any luck finding it. if someone has it, may I have it please? then I may 
 be able
 to help Alison. I think I can buy one of these players for $10.00 or so.


 - Original Message - 
 From: Rick Alfaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 7:24 PM
 Subject: RE: creative Zen stone won't play.


 Allison,

 This is just a shot in the dark, but after reading a review of the Zen
 Stone, I recall there is a switch that you have to use to put the player 
 in
 folder navigation mode.  I am thinking that you may have to use this mode 
 to
 navigate to your music folder and then press what ever button makes a
 selection to go into the folder.

 I don't have a Zen Stone, so like I said this is just a shot in the dark
 based on what I read.  I'd be interested to know whether that worked or 
 not.


 --Warmest regards,

 --Rick Alfaro
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Allison Mervis
 Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 3:04 PM
 To: list., PC audio discussion, ; org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: creative zen stone won't play.

 Hi all!
 I received my creative Zen stone today, plugged it in, deleted the sample
 tracks from the music folder, and pasted in some mp3 files of an audio 
 book.

 I waited until the player was charged, plugged in the headphones, and held
 down the play button for one second. I heard  a little popping sound which
 told me that the player had powered up, but no other sound. I tried 
 pushing
 all sides of the wheel, thinking that the volume might just be too low. I
 assume that the portion of the wheel with the little dot on it is volume 
 up.

 What could I be doing wrong? Should I have put the files in the route of 
 the

 player instead of in the music folder? Any assistance would be greatly
 appreciated.
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Re: creative Zen stone won't play.

2007-06-08 Thread Gary G Schindler
Amazon.com seems to have the Skin tone black real cheap. I don't know if it is 
because they are being discontinued.
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 Garry, where can you purchase the Zenstone for $10.00?,
 Billy
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary G Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 12:40 AM
 Subject: Re: creative Zen stone won't play.


I have been trying to find and access a manual for the Zen Stone, but
haven't had
 any luck finding it. if someone has it, may I have it please? then I may
 be able
 to help Alison. I think I can buy one of these players for $10.00 or so.


 - Original Message - 
 From: Rick Alfaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 7:24 PM
 Subject: RE: creative Zen stone won't play.


 Allison,

 This is just a shot in the dark, but after reading a review of the Zen
 Stone, I recall there is a switch that you have to use to put the player
 in
 folder navigation mode.  I am thinking that you may have to use this mode
 to
 navigate to your music folder and then press what ever button makes a
 selection to go into the folder.

 I don't have a Zen Stone, so like I said this is just a shot in the dark
 based on what I read.  I'd be interested to know whether that worked or
 not.


 --Warmest regards,

 --Rick Alfaro
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Allison Mervis
 Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 3:04 PM
 To: list., PC audio discussion, ; org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: creative zen stone won't play.

 Hi all!
 I received my creative Zen stone today, plugged it in, deleted the sample
 tracks from the music folder, and pasted in some mp3 files of an audio
 book.

 I waited until the player was charged, plugged in the headphones, and held
 down the play button for one second. I heard  a little popping sound which
 told me that the player had powered up, but no other sound. I tried
 pushing
 all sides of the wheel, thinking that the volume might just be too low. I
 assume that the portion of the wheel with the little dot on it is volume
 up.

 What could I be doing wrong? Should I have put the files in the route of
 the

 player instead of in the music folder? Any assistance would be greatly
 appreciated.
 Allison



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Re: creative Zen stone won't play.

2007-06-08 Thread Chris Skarstad
Hi.  It's important to point out that the skin for the Zen Stone just 
changes the look of the player, it's not the player itself.  So when 
you purchase the skin, you aren't getting a player along with it, all 
you are getting is he skin to put on the player to make it look 
different.  So if you don't have a Zen Stone, this would be, well, 
kind of useless.


At 07:20 AM 6/8/2007, you wrote:
Amazon.com seems to have the Skin tone black real cheap. I don't 
know if it is
because they are being discontinued.
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Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 5:41 AM
Subject: Re: creative Zen stone won't play.


  Garry, where can you purchase the Zenstone for $10.00?,
  Billy
  - Original Message -
  From: Gary G Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 12:40 AM
  Subject: Re: creative Zen stone won't play.
 
 
 I have been trying to find and access a manual for the Zen Stone, but
 haven't had
  any luck finding it. if someone has it, may I have it please? then I may
  be able
  to help Alison. I think I can buy one of these players for $10.00 or so.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Rick Alfaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 7:24 PM
  Subject: RE: creative Zen stone won't play.
 
 
  Allison,
 
  This is just a shot in the dark, but after reading a review of the Zen
  Stone, I recall there is a switch that you have to use to put the player
  in
  folder navigation mode.  I am thinking that you may have to use this mode
  to
  navigate to your music folder and then press what ever button makes a
  selection to go into the folder.
 
  I don't have a Zen Stone, so like I said this is just a shot in the dark
  based on what I read.  I'd be interested to know whether that worked or
  not.
 
 
  --Warmest regards,
 
  --Rick Alfaro
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Allison Mervis
  Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 3:04 PM
  To: list., PC audio discussion, ; org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: creative zen stone won't play.
 
  Hi all!
  I received my creative Zen stone today, plugged it in, deleted the sample
  tracks from the music folder, and pasted in some mp3 files of an audio
  book.
 
  I waited until the player was charged, plugged in the headphones, and held
  down the play button for one second. I heard  a little popping sound which
  told me that the player had powered up, but no other sound. I tried
  pushing
  all sides of the wheel, thinking that the volume might just be too low. I
  assume that the portion of the wheel with the little dot on it is volume
  up.
 
  What could I be doing wrong? Should I have put the files in the route of
  the
 
  player instead of in the music folder? Any assistance would be greatly
  appreciated.
  Allison
 
 
 
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Re: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-07 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I'm curious. How do you think this makes it more inconvenient? Are you 
thinking it's more inconvenient than something which has a rechargeable 
battery in it but uses an AC adapter to charge it? If so, I'm thinking 
whether you plug it into a USB port or an AC outlet, it would all be the 
same. I guess though AC outlets are still more ubiquitous than USB 
ports. If I go on vacation, like a cruise, I'd still have to bring my 
laptop just to recharge my Creative Zen Stone.

If you're comparing it to something which takes batteries then I guess 
it would be more inconvenient, when the battery runs down, you have to 
tether yourself to an electrical outlet or a USB port while it's 
charging, but if it took batteries, you could just pop a fresh battery 
in and go. I guess for the price, you could always buy two!

OK never mind, you're right, I can see where it would be a bit nor 
inconvenient! I'm still asking for one for Father's Day though! I have 
the Creative MuVo with 128M of memory, and having something that's 
supposed to be just as easy to use, but with 1GB of memory is just too 
appealing. Plus I see it's size and the fact that it has rechargeable 
batteries as providing it's own conveniences. I don't have to worry 
about spare batteries or carrying two separate cords.

Bruce Toews wrote:
 Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of
 the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?

 Bruce

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Re: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-07 Thread John Hodgson
If the Zen Stone can only be recharged via the USB port.. .this
shouldn't pose too much of a problem as you can get A C adapters that
allow you plug a USB connection in, so you can charge it that way. Just
like the way I pods are charged.

John

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/06/07 03:29 
Bruce, you wrote:

 Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way
of
 the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?

Yes, if you prefer normal batteries, you might checkout the iRiver T50
and T60. Not quite as cheap as the Stone, but more powerful and not
too
expensive either.

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Are the T50 and T60 from iRiver accessible? [was Re: Creative Zen Stone Player]

2007-06-07 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Has a blind person used or had any experience with the iRiver T50 or the 
iRiver T60? If so, how accessible did you find them? From the review 
posted at http://www.pocketables.net/2007/05/review_iriver_t.html, I 
read the following, which makes me wonder how accessible these players 
are. The reference to a joy stick and a GUI, even though they say it's 
straightforward, give me pause. It does appear that you can just use 
Windows Explorer to transfer music, but you may have to use the PC 
software to switch between MTP and UMS mode. That doesn't seem like a 
big deal, but I wonder if the PC software is accessible with a screen 
reader or not.

Controls

Navigation on both players is primarily handled by a small joystick on 
the right side of the display

The joystick is unrestricted in its movement and easy to use, but it's a 
bit wobbly. This makes selecting various options tricky because pressing 
the center of the joystick straight down requires actual precision. You 
can't just push the center and expect the system to recognize it as an 
OK or Enter command. More often than not, tapping the center of the 
joystick pushes it slightly to the left, which rewinds a track or takes 
you to the previous menu option.

Navigation would be more accurate if the joystick's movements were 
limited to just four directions (up, down, left, right).

Graphical user interface

The T50 and T60 are equipped with yet another GUI not found on any other 
recent iriver DAP (it's the same one used on the older T10).

All that nonsense aside, the T50 and T60's GUI is self-explanatory and 
easy to use. The main menu is colorful and cute, but the rest of the 
system isn't really anything to look at.

It's all very file-tree and Windows Explorer: plain but functional.

Transferring content

The T50 and T60 can be formatted to support MTP or UMS/MSC for 
transferring media with or without the use of software. Drag-and-drop 
via Windows Explorer can be done in either mode, but other differences 
exist to make choosing between one or the other pretty crucial.

Switching between the two modes requires the use of the supplied Cross 
Updater software and also deletes all of the content, so it's easier to 
just choose one and stick to it forever.

Keep in mind that you need MSC/UMS to:
• Use iriver plus 3
• Supposedly playback podcasts (not sure why iriver says this, as most 
podcasts are in MP3 format)
And you need MTP to:
• Use Windows Media Player 11 and other music management software
• Playback Audible content

Michael Lang wrote:
 Bruce, you wrote:

   
 Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of
 the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?
 

 Yes, if you prefer normal batteries, you might checkout the iRiver T50
 and T60. Not quite as cheap as the Stone, but more powerful and not too
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Re[2]: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-07 Thread pete gurney
hello all,

there is more than one solution to the problem of charging your mp3 usb
players.
i bought a mp3 and usb charger a while ago.
this is a small device that looks just like a standard mains plug and has a
usb socket on the face, all you do is plug it into the wall socket and plug
any usb powered device into it to either run it off the mains or to charge
it.
i only paid 5.99 UK pounds for it about12 US dollars.
the place i got mine from doesn't have this particular model any more but
they do have an alternative one that has some extras.
mine was for UK use only, but the one they have now is a travel version
which comes with adapters allowing you to use it in the UK, USA, Europe or
Australia.
  this model costs 9.99 UK pounds about 21 US dollars
here is the url for the item:
http://www.gizoo.co.uk/Products/AvCommunications/iPodAccessories/TravelCharg
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Re: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-07 Thread Bruce Toews
The whole point of portability is, well, portability. If you have to
cart a computer along just so you can recharge the device you have music
on which has been transfered from the device you're having to cart along
to recharge the portable device ...

Bruce
On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 03:43:22 -0500, Christopher Chaltain
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 I'm curious. How do you think this makes it more inconvenient? Are you 
 thinking it's more inconvenient than something which has a rechargeable 
 battery in it but uses an AC adapter to charge it? If so, I'm thinking 
 whether you plug it into a USB port or an AC outlet, it would all be the 
 same. I guess though AC outlets are still more ubiquitous than USB 
 ports. If I go on vacation, like a cruise, I'd still have to bring my 
 laptop just to recharge my Creative Zen Stone.
 
 If you're comparing it to something which takes batteries then I guess 
 it would be more inconvenient, when the battery runs down, you have to 
 tether yourself to an electrical outlet or a USB port while it's 
 charging, but if it took batteries, you could just pop a fresh battery 
 in and go. I guess for the price, you could always buy two!
 
 OK never mind, you're right, I can see where it would be a bit nor 
 inconvenient! I'm still asking for one for Father's Day though! I have 
 the Creative MuVo with 128M of memory, and having something that's 
 supposed to be just as easy to use, but with 1GB of memory is just too 
 appealing. Plus I see it's size and the fact that it has rechargeable 
 batteries as providing it's own conveniences. I don't have to worry 
 about spare batteries or carrying two separate cords.
 
 Bruce Toews wrote:
  Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of
  the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?
 
  Bruce
 
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Re: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-07 Thread Thomas \(TJ\) Olsen
the ipod shuffle functions in the same way,

tj
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From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: Creative Zen Stone Player


 The whole point of portability is, well, portability. If you have to
 cart a computer along just so you can recharge the device you have music
 on which has been transfered from the device you're having to cart along
 to recharge the portable device ...

 Bruce
 On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 03:43:22 -0500, Christopher Chaltain
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 I'm curious. How do you think this makes it more inconvenient? Are you
 thinking it's more inconvenient than something which has a rechargeable
 battery in it but uses an AC adapter to charge it? If so, I'm thinking
 whether you plug it into a USB port or an AC outlet, it would all be the
 same. I guess though AC outlets are still more ubiquitous than USB
 ports. If I go on vacation, like a cruise, I'd still have to bring my
 laptop just to recharge my Creative Zen Stone.

 If you're comparing it to something which takes batteries then I guess
 it would be more inconvenient, when the battery runs down, you have to
 tether yourself to an electrical outlet or a USB port while it's
 charging, but if it took batteries, you could just pop a fresh battery
 in and go. I guess for the price, you could always buy two!

 OK never mind, you're right, I can see where it would be a bit nor
 inconvenient! I'm still asking for one for Father's Day though! I have
 the Creative MuVo with 128M of memory, and having something that's
 supposed to be just as easy to use, but with 1GB of memory is just too
 appealing. Plus I see it's size and the fact that it has rechargeable
 batteries as providing it's own conveniences. I don't have to worry
 about spare batteries or carrying two separate cords.

 Bruce Toews wrote:
  Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of
  the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?
 
  Bruce
 
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Re: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-07 Thread Allison Mervis
But with the Zen stone, you don't have to use annoying transfer software. 
You can just copy and paste from windows explorer.
Allison

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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: Creative Zen Stone Player


 the ipod shuffle functions in the same way,

 tj
 - Original Message - 
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 9:04 AM
 Subject: Re: Creative Zen Stone Player


 The whole point of portability is, well, portability. If you have to
 cart a computer along just so you can recharge the device you have music
 on which has been transfered from the device you're having to cart along
 to recharge the portable device ...

 Bruce
 On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 03:43:22 -0500, Christopher Chaltain
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 I'm curious. How do you think this makes it more inconvenient? Are you
 thinking it's more inconvenient than something which has a rechargeable
 battery in it but uses an AC adapter to charge it? If so, I'm thinking
 whether you plug it into a USB port or an AC outlet, it would all be the
 same. I guess though AC outlets are still more ubiquitous than USB
 ports. If I go on vacation, like a cruise, I'd still have to bring my
 laptop just to recharge my Creative Zen Stone.

 If you're comparing it to something which takes batteries then I guess
 it would be more inconvenient, when the battery runs down, you have to
 tether yourself to an electrical outlet or a USB port while it's
 charging, but if it took batteries, you could just pop a fresh battery
 in and go. I guess for the price, you could always buy two!

 OK never mind, you're right, I can see where it would be a bit nor
 inconvenient! I'm still asking for one for Father's Day though! I have
 the Creative MuVo with 128M of memory, and having something that's
 supposed to be just as easy to use, but with 1GB of memory is just too
 appealing. Plus I see it's size and the fact that it has rechargeable
 batteries as providing it's own conveniences. I don't have to worry
 about spare batteries or carrying two separate cords.

 Bruce Toews wrote:
  Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of
  the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?
 
  Bruce
 
  --
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Re: Re[2]: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-07 Thread TIM GRADY
Great.  I figured there must be something like that being made.

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Subject: Re[2]: Creative Zen Stone Player


 hello all,

 there is more than one solution to the problem of charging your mp3 usb
 players.
 i bought a mp3 and usb charger a while ago.
 this is a small device that looks just like a standard mains plug and has 
 a
 usb socket on the face, all you do is plug it into the wall socket and 
 plug
 any usb powered device into it to either run it off the mains or to charge
 it.
 i only paid 5.99 UK pounds for it about12 US dollars.
 the place i got mine from doesn't have this particular model any more but
 they do have an alternative one that has some extras.
 mine was for UK use only, but the one they have now is a travel version
 which comes with adapters allowing you to use it in the UK, USA, Europe or
 Australia.
  this model costs 9.99 UK pounds about 21 US dollars
 here is the url for the item:
 http://www.gizoo.co.uk/Products/AvCommunications/iPodAccessories/TravelCharg
 erUSB.htm

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Re: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-07 Thread TIM GRADY
He's just trying to justify purchasing the BP as a mp3 player.

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 I'm curious. How do you think this makes it more inconvenient? Are you 
 thinking it's more inconvenient than something which has a rechargeable 
 battery in it but uses an AC adapter to charge it? If so, I'm thinking 
 whether you plug it into a USB port or an AC outlet, it would all be the 
 same. I guess though AC outlets are still more ubiquitous than USB 
 ports. If I go on vacation, like a cruise, I'd still have to bring my 
 laptop just to recharge my Creative Zen Stone.
 
 If you're comparing it to something which takes batteries then I guess 
 it would be more inconvenient, when the battery runs down, you have to 
 tether yourself to an electrical outlet or a USB port while it's 
 charging, but if it took batteries, you could just pop a fresh battery 
 in and go. I guess for the price, you could always buy two!
 
 OK never mind, you're right, I can see where it would be a bit nor 
 inconvenient! I'm still asking for one for Father's Day though! I have 
 the Creative MuVo with 128M of memory, and having something that's 
 supposed to be just as easy to use, but with 1GB of memory is just too 
 appealing. Plus I see it's size and the fact that it has rechargeable 
 batteries as providing it's own conveniences. I don't have to worry 
 about spare batteries or carrying two separate cords.
 
 Bruce Toews wrote:
 Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of
 the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?

 Bruce

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Re: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-07 Thread Bruce Toews
No justification is necessary on that point. The BP is one of the best
purchases I've ever made, and I am now just glad I didn't purchase the
Zen stone ... not because there's anything wrong with it, but because
I'm better served by my Book Port and I'll take the larger size for what
I'm offered. Personal thing, I have nothing to justify.
Bruce
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said:
 He's just trying to justify purchasing the BP as a mp3 player.
 
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 From: Christopher Chaltain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 4:43 AM
 Subject: Re: Creative Zen Stone Player
 
 
  I'm curious. How do you think this makes it more inconvenient? Are you 
  thinking it's more inconvenient than something which has a rechargeable 
  battery in it but uses an AC adapter to charge it? If so, I'm thinking 
  whether you plug it into a USB port or an AC outlet, it would all be the 
  same. I guess though AC outlets are still more ubiquitous than USB 
  ports. If I go on vacation, like a cruise, I'd still have to bring my 
  laptop just to recharge my Creative Zen Stone.
  
  If you're comparing it to something which takes batteries then I guess 
  it would be more inconvenient, when the battery runs down, you have to 
  tether yourself to an electrical outlet or a USB port while it's 
  charging, but if it took batteries, you could just pop a fresh battery 
  in and go. I guess for the price, you could always buy two!
  
  OK never mind, you're right, I can see where it would be a bit nor 
  inconvenient! I'm still asking for one for Father's Day though! I have 
  the Creative MuVo with 128M of memory, and having something that's 
  supposed to be just as easy to use, but with 1GB of memory is just too 
  appealing. Plus I see it's size and the fact that it has rechargeable 
  batteries as providing it's own conveniences. I don't have to worry 
  about spare batteries or carrying two separate cords.
  
  Bruce Toews wrote:
  Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of
  the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?
 
  Bruce
 
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creative zen stone won't play.

2007-06-07 Thread Allison Mervis
Hi all!
I received my creative Zen stone today, plugged it in, deleted the sample 
tracks from the music folder, and pasted in some mp3 files of an audio book. 
I waited until the player was charged, plugged in the headphones, and held 
down the play button for one second. I heard  a little popping sound which 
told me that the player had powered up, but no other sound. I tried pushing 
all sides of the wheel, thinking that the volume might just be too low. I 
assume that the portion of the wheel with the little dot on it is volume up. 
What could I be doing wrong? Should I have put the files in the route of the 
player instead of in the music folder? Any assistance would be greatly 
appreciated.
Allison



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RE: creative Zen stone won't play.

2007-06-07 Thread Rick Alfaro
Allison,

This is just a shot in the dark, but after reading a review of the Zen
Stone, I recall there is a switch that you have to use to put the player in
folder navigation mode.  I am thinking that you may have to use this mode to
navigate to your music folder and then press what ever button makes a
selection to go into the folder.

I don't have a Zen Stone, so like I said this is just a shot in the dark
based on what I read.  I'd be interested to know whether that worked or not.


--Warmest regards,
 
--Rick Alfaro
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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 3:04 PM
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Subject: creative zen stone won't play.

Hi all!
I received my creative Zen stone today, plugged it in, deleted the sample 
tracks from the music folder, and pasted in some mp3 files of an audio book.

I waited until the player was charged, plugged in the headphones, and held 
down the play button for one second. I heard  a little popping sound which 
told me that the player had powered up, but no other sound. I tried pushing 
all sides of the wheel, thinking that the volume might just be too low. I 
assume that the portion of the wheel with the little dot on it is volume up.

What could I be doing wrong? Should I have put the files in the route of the

player instead of in the music folder? Any assistance would be greatly 
appreciated.
Allison



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Re: creative Zen stone won't play.

2007-06-07 Thread Gary G Schindler
I have been trying to find and access a manual for the Zen Stone, but haven't 
had 
any luck finding it. if someone has it, may I have it please? then I may be 
able 
to help Alison. I think I can buy one of these players for $10.00 or so.


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Subject: RE: creative Zen stone won't play.


Allison,

This is just a shot in the dark, but after reading a review of the Zen
Stone, I recall there is a switch that you have to use to put the player in
folder navigation mode.  I am thinking that you may have to use this mode to
navigate to your music folder and then press what ever button makes a
selection to go into the folder.

I don't have a Zen Stone, so like I said this is just a shot in the dark
based on what I read.  I'd be interested to know whether that worked or not.


--Warmest regards,

--Rick Alfaro
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On Behalf Of Allison Mervis
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 3:04 PM
To: list., PC audio discussion, ; org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: creative zen stone won't play.

Hi all!
I received my creative Zen stone today, plugged it in, deleted the sample
tracks from the music folder, and pasted in some mp3 files of an audio book.

I waited until the player was charged, plugged in the headphones, and held
down the play button for one second. I heard  a little popping sound which
told me that the player had powered up, but no other sound. I tried pushing
all sides of the wheel, thinking that the volume might just be too low. I
assume that the portion of the wheel with the little dot on it is volume up.

What could I be doing wrong? Should I have put the files in the route of the

player instead of in the music folder? Any assistance would be greatly
appreciated.
Allison



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Re: creative Zen stone won't play.

2007-06-07 Thread Allison Mervis
Hi Rick!
It turns out I was just being impatient. This is nothing new. Lol. You need 
to hold down the play button for about three seconds during, and then wait 
ten to fifteen seconds for it to start playing the file.
Allison

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Subject: RE: creative Zen stone won't play.


Allison,

This is just a shot in the dark, but after reading a review of the Zen
Stone, I recall there is a switch that you have to use to put the player in
folder navigation mode.  I am thinking that you may have to use this mode to
navigate to your music folder and then press what ever button makes a
selection to go into the folder.

I don't have a Zen Stone, so like I said this is just a shot in the dark
based on what I read.  I'd be interested to know whether that worked or not.


--Warmest regards,

--Rick Alfaro
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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On Behalf Of Allison Mervis
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 3:04 PM
To: list., PC audio discussion, ; org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: creative zen stone won't play.

Hi all!
I received my creative Zen stone today, plugged it in, deleted the sample
tracks from the music folder, and pasted in some mp3 files of an audio book.

I waited until the player was charged, plugged in the headphones, and held
down the play button for one second. I heard  a little popping sound which
told me that the player had powered up, but no other sound. I tried pushing
all sides of the wheel, thinking that the volume might just be too low. I
assume that the portion of the wheel with the little dot on it is volume up.

What could I be doing wrong? Should I have put the files in the route of the

player instead of in the music folder? Any assistance would be greatly
appreciated.
Allison



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Re: creative Zen stone won't play.

2007-06-07 Thread Kevin Lloyd
Hi Gary.

The zen stoen is so simple that a manual really isn't necessary.  As Alison 
has discovered, you do have to hold the play button for 2 to 3 seconds and 
then wait 10 to 15 seconds for playback to start.

I'd recommend taking a look at the following site to get a good overview of 
the player:
http://www.hartgen.org/zenstone.html

Regards.

Kevin
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Subject: Re: creative Zen stone won't play.


I have been trying to find and access a manual for the Zen Stone, but 
haven't had
 any luck finding it. if someone has it, may I have it please? then I may 
 be able
 to help Alison. I think I can buy one of these players for $10.00 or so.


 - Original Message - 
 From: Rick Alfaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 7:24 PM
 Subject: RE: creative Zen stone won't play.


 Allison,

 This is just a shot in the dark, but after reading a review of the Zen
 Stone, I recall there is a switch that you have to use to put the player 
 in
 folder navigation mode.  I am thinking that you may have to use this mode 
 to
 navigate to your music folder and then press what ever button makes a
 selection to go into the folder.

 I don't have a Zen Stone, so like I said this is just a shot in the dark
 based on what I read.  I'd be interested to know whether that worked or 
 not.


 --Warmest regards,

 --Rick Alfaro
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
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 On Behalf Of Allison Mervis
 Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 3:04 PM
 To: list., PC audio discussion, ; org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: creative zen stone won't play.

 Hi all!
 I received my creative Zen stone today, plugged it in, deleted the sample
 tracks from the music folder, and pasted in some mp3 files of an audio 
 book.

 I waited until the player was charged, plugged in the headphones, and held
 down the play button for one second. I heard  a little popping sound which
 told me that the player had powered up, but no other sound. I tried 
 pushing
 all sides of the wheel, thinking that the volume might just be too low. I
 assume that the portion of the wheel with the little dot on it is volume 
 up.

 What could I be doing wrong? Should I have put the files in the route of 
 the

 player instead of in the music folder? Any assistance would be greatly
 appreciated.
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Re: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-07 Thread Kevin Lloyd
Hi Bruce.

I see the BP and Zen Stone as serving completely different purposes rather 
than two products competing in the same market so it's more likely that 
you'd want both rather than one or the other.  I don't have a BP and haven't 
seenit's specs but I'd be very surprised if it had a great spec for playing 
music when you consider it's main purpose in life is to play the spoken 
word.

The zen stone on the other hand is primarily a music player designed and 
built to provide the best playback quality possible in the tiniest size to 
compete with apple's products.  It has a frequency range of 20 hz to 20 Khz 
whereas typically, players like the olympus ds50, milestone  and I'd imagine 
the BP will only cover 50 hz to 19 Khz.

The zen stone battery life is approx 10 hours on a full charge and it would 
of course be ridiculous to assume you'd need to take a laptop with you to 
recharge.  These types of players always come with an adaptor to charge from 
mains and these can be hhad very cheaply.

Regards.

Kevin
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Subject: Re: Creative Zen Stone Player


 No justification is necessary on that point. The BP is one of the best
 purchases I've ever made, and I am now just glad I didn't purchase the
 Zen stone ... not because there's anything wrong with it, but because
 I'm better served by my Book Port and I'll take the larger size for what
 I'm offered. Personal thing, I have nothing to justify.
 Bruce
 On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:00:27 -0400, TIM GRADY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 said:
 He's just trying to justify purchasing the BP as a mp3 player.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Christopher Chaltain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 4:43 AM
 Subject: Re: Creative Zen Stone Player


  I'm curious. How do you think this makes it more inconvenient? Are you
  thinking it's more inconvenient than something which has a rechargeable
  battery in it but uses an AC adapter to charge it? If so, I'm thinking
  whether you plug it into a USB port or an AC outlet, it would all be 
  the
  same. I guess though AC outlets are still more ubiquitous than USB
  ports. If I go on vacation, like a cruise, I'd still have to bring my
  laptop just to recharge my Creative Zen Stone.
 
  If you're comparing it to something which takes batteries then I guess
  it would be more inconvenient, when the battery runs down, you have to
  tether yourself to an electrical outlet or a USB port while it's
  charging, but if it took batteries, you could just pop a fresh battery
  in and go. I guess for the price, you could always buy two!
 
  OK never mind, you're right, I can see where it would be a bit nor
  inconvenient! I'm still asking for one for Father's Day though! I have
  the Creative MuVo with 128M of memory, and having something that's
  supposed to be just as easy to use, but with 1GB of memory is just too
  appealing. Plus I see it's size and the fact that it has rechargeable
  batteries as providing it's own conveniences. I don't have to worry
  about spare batteries or carrying two separate cords.
 
  Bruce Toews wrote:
  Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of
  the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?
 
  Bruce
 
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Re: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-07 Thread Don Ball
you know we don't know how long it  takes to charge the thing up. It could 
take as little as 15 minutes. It will surely take no longer than 1 hour.
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I'm curious. How do you think this makes it more inconvenient? Are you
thinking it's more inconvenient than something which has a rechargeable
battery in it but uses an AC adapter to charge it? If so, I'm thinking
whether you plug it into a USB port or an AC outlet, it would all be the
same. I guess though AC outlets are still more ubiquitous than USB
ports. If I go on vacation, like a cruise, I'd still have to bring my
laptop just to recharge my Creative Zen Stone.

If you're comparing it to something which takes batteries then I guess
it would be more inconvenient, when the battery runs down, you have to
tether yourself to an electrical outlet or a USB port while it's
charging, but if it took batteries, you could just pop a fresh battery
in and go. I guess for the price, you could always buy two!

OK never mind, you're right, I can see where it would be a bit nor
inconvenient! I'm still asking for one for Father's Day though! I have
the Creative MuVo with 128M of memory, and having something that's
supposed to be just as easy to use, but with 1GB of memory is just too
appealing. Plus I see it's size and the fact that it has rechargeable
batteries as providing it's own conveniences. I don't have to worry
about spare batteries or carrying two separate cords.

Bruce Toews wrote:
 Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of
 the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?

 Bruce

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Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-06 Thread Bruce Toews
Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of
the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?

Bruce

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Re: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-06 Thread Thomas \(TJ\) Olsen
Don't quote me on this but if i'm not mistaken its possible to buy usb to 
standard outlet adapters

tj
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 Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of
 the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?

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Re: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-06 Thread Michael Lang
Bruce, you wrote:

 Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of
 the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?

Yes, if you prefer normal batteries, you might checkout the iRiver T50
and T60. Not quite as cheap as the Stone, but more powerful and not too
expensive either.

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Re: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-06 Thread Jeff Samco
As an alternative, aren't there battery charging units that plug into 
a USB port? Power comes from loading batteries into the charging 
unit. That way one could use rechargeable NiMH type batteries to 
easily fuel the portable charger. Am I assuming correctly about this?
Jeff


At 07:29 PM 6/6/2007, you wrote:
Bruce, you wrote:

  Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of
  the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?

Yes, if you prefer normal batteries, you might checkout the iRiver T50
and T60. Not quite as cheap as the Stone, but more powerful and not too
expensive either.

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Re: The Creative Zen Stone MP3 player

2007-05-29 Thread Kathy Szinnyey
Yeah, but for a lot of olks, all they want to do is access their books or 
just have some music to listen to and not have to spend a lot of money or go 
nuts hoping they don't end up messing with a lot of menus.  I know sighted 
people like this as well!  Smile.

Peace,
Kathy



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- Original Message - 
From: Michael S. Goren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: The Creative Zen Stone MP3 player


 Only problem, is1 gig, now days, that isn't mucyh storage area.
 I have more than that on my cell phone.
 At 06:01 AM 05/28/2007, you wrote:
Brian, this sounds like incredibly good news!  As a person who works as a
library assistant, I'm always on the lookout for affordable easy to use
equipment for us blind folk who want to listen to audible books and music
without losing our minds!  Smile.  Much to my beloved husband's annoyance
(why do you need another one of these?), I will probably buy this and test
it out at our library.  This has got me jazzed, for sure!  Until we get 
rid
of that annoying DRM, this could be the best answer yet!

Peace,
Kathy



Listen to Kathy and Fred on the Web at

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- Original Message -
From: Steve Pattison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org; Access-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 10:31 PM
Subject: Fwd: The Creative Zen Stone MP3 player


 
 From: Brian Hartgen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I wanted to let people know about a very affordable easy to use 
 portable
 media player which Anna told me about and which I have just purchased.
 It is called the Zen Stone player from Creative, and it costs 25 pounds
 or 40 Us dollars.  The player was released on 3 May this year and so is
 very new and is available just about everywhere you can think of
 including retail outlets and Amazon.
 
 The player is extremely small indeed and weighs less than one ounce and
 has no screen.  It has a mode switch on the side (for cycling between
 some features such as repeat, play all or shuffle), and a typical 
 wheel:
 up and down for volume, left and right to skip tracks or within a 
 track,
 and play/stop in the centre.  The mode switch, if pressed and held, 
 will
 allow you to skip to the next album or folder which is a nice feature.
 The Zen Stone can accommodate up to 1 GB of storage.
 
 The great thing about this player is that no special software is
 required to transfer regular WMA or MP3 files to it.  You can simply
 copy and paste using Windows Explorer.  However, there is software 
 which
 can be downloaded called Creative Media Light, which allows you to not
 only rip tracks from audio CD, but in addition once the audio 
 extraction
 has taken place, the music is automatically transferred to the player.
 So for a person who does not want to get into the business of copying
 music to the player, this could be very good.  There's a bit of
 scripting needing to be done with that, but I intend to issue some free
 JAWS scripts for this if I can get that particular item to work.  Apart
 from that and one or two small issues of labelling buttons which I have
 done, the software is quite usable.  The good thing about the software
 is that when the player is connected to the computer for charging, the
 status line will report the percentage of the charging process.
 
 Now to the final great feature.  This player will allow you to play DRM
 Windows Media files and Audible content.  When playing Audible content
 (up to format 3 only), and you stop playing the book and move to 
 another
 folder, your position within the book is retained! I think that the
 storage capacity of the player, and the fact that the quality of format
 3 is quite listenable, makes the use of this format quite acceptable.
 
 If anyone would like to know more about the player please let me know.
 But if you want something really simple on which to listen to music,
 podcasts  and particularly Audible books, this is a very inexpensive
 option.  If it does play DRM content, and I've no reason to doubt the
 claims made by the manufacturers, then this kind of player could be the
 start of people moving away from the iTunes music store (thank 
 goodness)
 and to other music providers who offer DRM content.
 
 Brian Hartgen
 More information about portable media devices can be obtained from the
 Portable Player Portal.  Please visit
 www.hartgen.org
 and choose the Portable Player Portal link.
 
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RE: The Creative Zen Stone MP3 player

2007-05-29 Thread Blackwell, Clifford
Besides at the price, one can purchase a couple or more and dedicate
certain players to certain media or subject. 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy Szinnyey
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 5:55 AM
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: Re: The Creative Zen Stone MP3 player

Yeah, but for a lot of olks, all they want to do is access their books
or just have some music to listen to and not have to spend a lot of
money or go nuts hoping they don't end up messing with a lot of menus.
I know sighted people like this as well!  Smile.

Peace,
Kathy



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From: Michael S. Goren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: The Creative Zen Stone MP3 player


 Only problem, is1 gig, now days, that isn't mucyh storage area.
 I have more than that on my cell phone.
 At 06:01 AM 05/28/2007, you wrote:
Brian, this sounds like incredibly good news!  As a person who works
as a
library assistant, I'm always on the lookout for affordable easy to
use
equipment for us blind folk who want to listen to audible books and
music
without losing our minds!  Smile.  Much to my beloved husband's
annoyance
(why do you need another one of these?), I will probably buy this and
test
it out at our library.  This has got me jazzed, for sure!  Until we
get 
rid
of that annoying DRM, this could be the best answer yet!

Peace,
Kathy



Listen to Kathy and Fred on the Web at

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- Original Message -
From: Steve Pattison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org; Access-L
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 10:31 PM
Subject: Fwd: The Creative Zen Stone MP3 player


 
 From: Brian Hartgen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I wanted to let people know about a very affordable easy to use 
 portable
 media player which Anna told me about and which I have just
purchased.
 It is called the Zen Stone player from Creative, and it costs 25
pounds
 or 40 Us dollars.  The player was released on 3 May this year and
so is
 very new and is available just about everywhere you can think of
 including retail outlets and Amazon.
 
 The player is extremely small indeed and weighs less than one ounce
and
 has no screen.  It has a mode switch on the side (for cycling
between
 some features such as repeat, play all or shuffle), and a typical 
 wheel:
 up and down for volume, left and right to skip tracks or within a 
 track,
 and play/stop in the centre.  The mode switch, if pressed and held,

 will
 allow you to skip to the next album or folder which is a nice
feature.
 The Zen Stone can accommodate up to 1 GB of storage.
 
 The great thing about this player is that no special software is
 required to transfer regular WMA or MP3 files to it.  You can
simply
 copy and paste using Windows Explorer.  However, there is software 
 which
 can be downloaded called Creative Media Light, which allows you to
not
 only rip tracks from audio CD, but in addition once the audio 
 extraction
 has taken place, the music is automatically transferred to the
player.
 So for a person who does not want to get into the business of
copying
 music to the player, this could be very good.  There's a bit of
 scripting needing to be done with that, but I intend to issue some
free
 JAWS scripts for this if I can get that particular item to work.
Apart
 from that and one or two small issues of labelling buttons which I
have
 done, the software is quite usable.  The good thing about the
software
 is that when the player is connected to the computer for charging,
the
 status line will report the percentage of the charging process.
 
 Now to the final great feature.  This player will allow you to play
DRM
 Windows Media files and Audible content.  When playing Audible
content
 (up to format 3 only), and you stop playing the book and move to 
 another
 folder, your position within the book is retained! I think that the
 storage capacity of the player, and the fact that the quality of
format
 3 is quite listenable, makes the use of this format quite
acceptable.
 
 If anyone would like to know more about the player please let me
know.
 But if you want something really simple on which to listen to
music,
 podcasts  and particularly Audible books, this is a very
inexpensive
 option.  If it does play DRM content, and I've no reason to doubt
the
 claims made by the manufacturers, then this kind of player could be
the
 start of people moving away from the iTunes music store (thank 
 goodness)
 and to other music providers who offer DRM content.
 
 Brian Hartgen
 More information about portable media devices can be obtained from
the
 Portable Player Portal.  Please visit
 www.hartgen.org
 and choose the Portable Player Portal link.
 
 E-MAIL

RE: The Creative Zen Stone MP3 player

2007-05-29 Thread Rick Alfaro
Now, my big question is whether or not it can properly handle files from Net
Library.  I know the device can play WMA with DRM but as you know, Net
Library files are huge and I haven't found a player yet that will handle
them properly.  Yes, they will play, but fast forward and rewind don't work
properly, and your current place in the book is not remembered if you switch
to another file.  It would be wonderful if this player worked as well with
Net Library files as it does with audible books.

--Warmest regards,
 
--Rick Alfaro
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Kathy Szinnyey
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 7:02 AM
To: PC audio discussion list. ; Access-L
Subject: Re: The Creative Zen Stone MP3 player

Brian, this sounds like incredibly good news!  As a person who works as a 
library assistant, I'm always on the lookout for affordable easy to use 
equipment for us blind folk who want to listen to audible books and music 
without losing our minds!  Smile.  Much to my beloved husband's annoyance 
(why do you need another one of these?), I will probably buy this and test 
it out at our library.  This has got me jazzed, for sure!  Until we get rid 
of that annoying DRM, this could be the best answer yet!

Peace,
Kathy



Listen to Kathy and Fred on the Web at

http://www.live365.com/stations/cityslackers/

http://www.fredkate.libsyn.com

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From: Steve Pattison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org; Access-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 10:31 PM
Subject: Fwd: The Creative Zen Stone MP3 player



From: Brian Hartgen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I wanted to let people know about a very affordable easy to use portable
media player which Anna told me about and which I have just purchased.
It is called the Zen Stone player from Creative, and it costs 25 pounds
or 40 Us dollars.  The player was released on 3 May this year and so is
very new and is available just about everywhere you can think of
including retail outlets and Amazon.

The player is extremely small indeed and weighs less than one ounce and
has no screen.  It has a mode switch on the side (for cycling between
some features such as repeat, play all or shuffle), and a typical wheel:
up and down for volume, left and right to skip tracks or within a track,
and play/stop in the centre.  The mode switch, if pressed and held, will
allow you to skip to the next album or folder which is a nice feature.
The Zen Stone can accommodate up to 1 GB of storage.

The great thing about this player is that no special software is
required to transfer regular WMA or MP3 files to it.  You can simply
copy and paste using Windows Explorer.  However, there is software which
can be downloaded called Creative Media Light, which allows you to not
only rip tracks from audio CD, but in addition once the audio extraction
has taken place, the music is automatically transferred to the player.
So for a person who does not want to get into the business of copying
music to the player, this could be very good.  There's a bit of
scripting needing to be done with that, but I intend to issue some free
JAWS scripts for this if I can get that particular item to work.  Apart
from that and one or two small issues of labelling buttons which I have
done, the software is quite usable.  The good thing about the software
is that when the player is connected to the computer for charging, the
status line will report the percentage of the charging process.

Now to the final great feature.  This player will allow you to play DRM
Windows Media files and Audible content.  When playing Audible content
(up to format 3 only), and you stop playing the book and move to another
folder, your position within the book is retained! I think that the
storage capacity of the player, and the fact that the quality of format
3 is quite listenable, makes the use of this format quite acceptable.

If anyone would like to know more about the player please let me know.
But if you want something really simple on which to listen to music,
podcasts  and particularly Audible books, this is a very inexpensive
option.  If it does play DRM content, and I've no reason to doubt the
claims made by the manufacturers, then this kind of player could be the
start of people moving away from the iTunes music store (thank goodness)
and to other music providers who offer DRM content.

Brian Hartgen
More information about portable media devices can be obtained from the
Portable Player Portal.  Please visit
www.hartgen.org
and choose the Portable Player Portal link.

E-MAIL:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SKYPE:  brianhartgen
PHONE (UK):  0208-133-7186
PHONE (US):  213-985-3581

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RE: The Creative Zen Stone MP3 player

2007-05-29 Thread David Tanner
That is exactly what I was wondering.  I can use Net Library books on the
Olympus DS-50, and I can set the skip so that I skip forward or back by a
certain amount of time.  But, if I play any other file between times I read
the book it will loose its' place and be back at the start of the book.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Rick Alfaro
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:39 PM
To: 'PC audio discussion list. '
Subject: RE: The Creative Zen Stone MP3 player

Now, my big question is whether or not it can properly handle files from Net
Library.  I know the device can play WMA with DRM but as you know, Net
Library files are huge and I haven't found a player yet that will handle
them properly.  Yes, they will play, but fast forward and rewind don't work
properly, and your current place in the book is not remembered if you switch
to another file.  It would be wonderful if this player worked as well with
Net Library files as it does with audible books.

--Warmest regards,
 
--Rick Alfaro
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Kathy Szinnyey
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 7:02 AM
To: PC audio discussion list. ; Access-L
Subject: Re: The Creative Zen Stone MP3 player

Brian, this sounds like incredibly good news!  As a person who works as a 
library assistant, I'm always on the lookout for affordable easy to use 
equipment for us blind folk who want to listen to audible books and music 
without losing our minds!  Smile.  Much to my beloved husband's annoyance 
(why do you need another one of these?), I will probably buy this and test 
it out at our library.  This has got me jazzed, for sure!  Until we get rid 
of that annoying DRM, this could be the best answer yet!

Peace,
Kathy



Listen to Kathy and Fred on the Web at

http://www.live365.com/stations/cityslackers/

http://www.fredkate.libsyn.com

- Original Message - 
From: Steve Pattison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org; Access-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 10:31 PM
Subject: Fwd: The Creative Zen Stone MP3 player



From: Brian Hartgen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I wanted to let people know about a very affordable easy to use portable
media player which Anna told me about and which I have just purchased.
It is called the Zen Stone player from Creative, and it costs 25 pounds
or 40 Us dollars.  The player was released on 3 May this year and so is
very new and is available just about everywhere you can think of
including retail outlets and Amazon.

The player is extremely small indeed and weighs less than one ounce and
has no screen.  It has a mode switch on the side (for cycling between
some features such as repeat, play all or shuffle), and a typical wheel:
up and down for volume, left and right to skip tracks or within a track,
and play/stop in the centre.  The mode switch, if pressed and held, will
allow you to skip to the next album or folder which is a nice feature.
The Zen Stone can accommodate up to 1 GB of storage.

The great thing about this player is that no special software is
required to transfer regular WMA or MP3 files to it.  You can simply
copy and paste using Windows Explorer.  However, there is software which
can be downloaded called Creative Media Light, which allows you to not
only rip tracks from audio CD, but in addition once the audio extraction
has taken place, the music is automatically transferred to the player.
So for a person who does not want to get into the business of copying
music to the player, this could be very good.  There's a bit of
scripting needing to be done with that, but I intend to issue some free
JAWS scripts for this if I can get that particular item to work.  Apart
from that and one or two small issues of labelling buttons which I have
done, the software is quite usable.  The good thing about the software
is that when the player is connected to the computer for charging, the
status line will report the percentage of the charging process.

Now to the final great feature.  This player will allow you to play DRM
Windows Media files and Audible content.  When playing Audible content
(up to format 3 only), and you stop playing the book and move to another
folder, your position within the book is retained! I think that the
storage capacity of the player, and the fact that the quality of format
3 is quite listenable, makes the use of this format quite acceptable.

If anyone would like to know more about the player please let me know.
But if you want something really simple on which to listen to music,
podcasts  and particularly Audible books, this is a very inexpensive
option.  If it does play DRM content, and I've no reason to doubt the
claims made by the manufacturers, then this kind of player could be the
start of people moving away from the iTunes music store (thank goodness)
and to other music providers who offer DRM content.

Brian Hartgen
More information about

Re: The Creative Zen Stone MP3 player

2007-05-28 Thread Kathy Szinnyey
Brian, this sounds like incredibly good news!  As a person who works as a 
library assistant, I'm always on the lookout for affordable easy to use 
equipment for us blind folk who want to listen to audible books and music 
without losing our minds!  Smile.  Much to my beloved husband's annoyance 
(why do you need another one of these?), I will probably buy this and test 
it out at our library.  This has got me jazzed, for sure!  Until we get rid 
of that annoying DRM, this could be the best answer yet!

Peace,
Kathy



Listen to Kathy and Fred on the Web at

http://www.live365.com/stations/cityslackers/

http://www.fredkate.libsyn.com

- Original Message - 
From: Steve Pattison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org; Access-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 10:31 PM
Subject: Fwd: The Creative Zen Stone MP3 player



From: Brian Hartgen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I wanted to let people know about a very affordable easy to use portable
media player which Anna told me about and which I have just purchased.
It is called the Zen Stone player from Creative, and it costs 25 pounds
or 40 Us dollars.  The player was released on 3 May this year and so is
very new and is available just about everywhere you can think of
including retail outlets and Amazon.

The player is extremely small indeed and weighs less than one ounce and
has no screen.  It has a mode switch on the side (for cycling between
some features such as repeat, play all or shuffle), and a typical wheel:
up and down for volume, left and right to skip tracks or within a track,
and play/stop in the centre.  The mode switch, if pressed and held, will
allow you to skip to the next album or folder which is a nice feature.
The Zen Stone can accommodate up to 1 GB of storage.

The great thing about this player is that no special software is
required to transfer regular WMA or MP3 files to it.  You can simply
copy and paste using Windows Explorer.  However, there is software which
can be downloaded called Creative Media Light, which allows you to not
only rip tracks from audio CD, but in addition once the audio extraction
has taken place, the music is automatically transferred to the player.
So for a person who does not want to get into the business of copying
music to the player, this could be very good.  There's a bit of
scripting needing to be done with that, but I intend to issue some free
JAWS scripts for this if I can get that particular item to work.  Apart
from that and one or two small issues of labelling buttons which I have
done, the software is quite usable.  The good thing about the software
is that when the player is connected to the computer for charging, the
status line will report the percentage of the charging process.

Now to the final great feature.  This player will allow you to play DRM
Windows Media files and Audible content.  When playing Audible content
(up to format 3 only), and you stop playing the book and move to another
folder, your position within the book is retained! I think that the
storage capacity of the player, and the fact that the quality of format
3 is quite listenable, makes the use of this format quite acceptable.

If anyone would like to know more about the player please let me know.
But if you want something really simple on which to listen to music,
podcasts  and particularly Audible books, this is a very inexpensive
option.  If it does play DRM content, and I've no reason to doubt the
claims made by the manufacturers, then this kind of player could be the
start of people moving away from the iTunes music store (thank goodness)
and to other music providers who offer DRM content.

Brian Hartgen
More information about portable media devices can be obtained from the
Portable Player Portal.  Please visit
www.hartgen.org
and choose the Portable Player Portal link.

E-MAIL:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SKYPE:  brianhartgen
PHONE (UK):  0208-133-7186
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Re: The Creative Zen Stone MP3 player

2007-05-28 Thread Michael S. Goren
Only problem, is1 gig, now days, that isn't mucyh storage area.
I have more than that on my cell phone.
At 06:01 AM 05/28/2007, you wrote:
Brian, this sounds like incredibly good news!  As a person who works as a
library assistant, I'm always on the lookout for affordable easy to use
equipment for us blind folk who want to listen to audible books and music
without losing our minds!  Smile.  Much to my beloved husband's annoyance
(why do you need another one of these?), I will probably buy this and test
it out at our library.  This has got me jazzed, for sure!  Until we get rid
of that annoying DRM, this could be the best answer yet!

Peace,
Kathy



Listen to Kathy and Fred on the Web at

http://www.live365.com/stations/cityslackers/

http://www.fredkate.libsyn.com

- Original Message -
From: Steve Pattison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org; Access-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 10:31 PM
Subject: Fwd: The Creative Zen Stone MP3 player


 
 From: Brian Hartgen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I wanted to let people know about a very affordable easy to use portable
 media player which Anna told me about and which I have just purchased.
 It is called the Zen Stone player from Creative, and it costs 25 pounds
 or 40 Us dollars.  The player was released on 3 May this year and so is
 very new and is available just about everywhere you can think of
 including retail outlets and Amazon.
 
 The player is extremely small indeed and weighs less than one ounce and
 has no screen.  It has a mode switch on the side (for cycling between
 some features such as repeat, play all or shuffle), and a typical wheel:
 up and down for volume, left and right to skip tracks or within a track,
 and play/stop in the centre.  The mode switch, if pressed and held, will
 allow you to skip to the next album or folder which is a nice feature.
 The Zen Stone can accommodate up to 1 GB of storage.
 
 The great thing about this player is that no special software is
 required to transfer regular WMA or MP3 files to it.  You can simply
 copy and paste using Windows Explorer.  However, there is software which
 can be downloaded called Creative Media Light, which allows you to not
 only rip tracks from audio CD, but in addition once the audio extraction
 has taken place, the music is automatically transferred to the player.
 So for a person who does not want to get into the business of copying
 music to the player, this could be very good.  There's a bit of
 scripting needing to be done with that, but I intend to issue some free
 JAWS scripts for this if I can get that particular item to work.  Apart
 from that and one or two small issues of labelling buttons which I have
 done, the software is quite usable.  The good thing about the software
 is that when the player is connected to the computer for charging, the
 status line will report the percentage of the charging process.
 
 Now to the final great feature.  This player will allow you to play DRM
 Windows Media files and Audible content.  When playing Audible content
 (up to format 3 only), and you stop playing the book and move to another
 folder, your position within the book is retained! I think that the
 storage capacity of the player, and the fact that the quality of format
 3 is quite listenable, makes the use of this format quite acceptable.
 
 If anyone would like to know more about the player please let me know.
 But if you want something really simple on which to listen to music,
 podcasts  and particularly Audible books, this is a very inexpensive
 option.  If it does play DRM content, and I've no reason to doubt the
 claims made by the manufacturers, then this kind of player could be the
 start of people moving away from the iTunes music store (thank goodness)
 and to other music providers who offer DRM content.
 
 Brian Hartgen
 More information about portable media devices can be obtained from the
 Portable Player Portal.  Please visit
 www.hartgen.org
 and choose the Portable Player Portal link.
 
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Fwd: The Creative Zen Stone MP3 player

2007-05-27 Thread Steve Pattison

From: Brian Hartgen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I wanted to let people know about a very affordable easy to use portable
media player which Anna told me about and which I have just purchased.
It is called the Zen Stone player from Creative, and it costs 25 pounds
or 40 Us dollars.  The player was released on 3 May this year and so is
very new and is available just about everywhere you can think of
including retail outlets and Amazon.

The player is extremely small indeed and weighs less than one ounce and
has no screen.  It has a mode switch on the side (for cycling between
some features such as repeat, play all or shuffle), and a typical wheel:
up and down for volume, left and right to skip tracks or within a track,
and play/stop in the centre.  The mode switch, if pressed and held, will
allow you to skip to the next album or folder which is a nice feature.
The Zen Stone can accommodate up to 1 GB of storage.

The great thing about this player is that no special software is
required to transfer regular WMA or MP3 files to it.  You can simply
copy and paste using Windows Explorer.  However, there is software which
can be downloaded called Creative Media Light, which allows you to not
only rip tracks from audio CD, but in addition once the audio extraction
has taken place, the music is automatically transferred to the player.
So for a person who does not want to get into the business of copying
music to the player, this could be very good.  There's a bit of
scripting needing to be done with that, but I intend to issue some free
JAWS scripts for this if I can get that particular item to work.  Apart
from that and one or two small issues of labelling buttons which I have
done, the software is quite usable.  The good thing about the software
is that when the player is connected to the computer for charging, the
status line will report the percentage of the charging process.

Now to the final great feature.  This player will allow you to play DRM
Windows Media files and Audible content.  When playing Audible content
(up to format 3 only), and you stop playing the book and move to another
folder, your position within the book is retained! I think that the
storage capacity of the player, and the fact that the quality of format
3 is quite listenable, makes the use of this format quite acceptable.

If anyone would like to know more about the player please let me know.
But if you want something really simple on which to listen to music,
podcasts  and particularly Audible books, this is a very inexpensive
option.  If it does play DRM content, and I've no reason to doubt the
claims made by the manufacturers, then this kind of player could be the
start of people moving away from the iTunes music store (thank goodness)
and to other music providers who offer DRM content.

Brian Hartgen
More information about portable media devices can be obtained from the
Portable Player Portal.  Please visit
www.hartgen.org
and choose the Portable Player Portal link.

E-MAIL:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SKYPE:  brianhartgen
PHONE (UK):  0208-133-7186
PHONE (US):  213-985-3581

Regards Steve
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype:  steve1963
MSN Messenger:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


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