Re: Aff camera flash question
Michelle, You need an adapter to put in the camera hotshoe If it is a PZ series then you don't need the popup version - the hotshoe F will do If the hotshoe is on top of the prism and you want to use the popup flash plus off-camera flash then you need the hotshoe FG otherwise the F will do For the flash itself - if it is a FTZ500 then it has a connector built in and you don't really need another adapter For any other dedicated flash, you will need another hotshoe F - you can get it with a tripod mount or just regular if you are going to mount it some other way Lastly you will need a cord to go between the adapters - F5P in either 3 or 95 foot lengths HTH, Bruce Dayton Thursday, February 28, 2002, 3:33:16 AM, you wrote: M Dear all, M How do I get a flash (in this case metz 40-mz3 with M appropriate Pentax SCA, but could be the FTZ 500) off M camera The camera? MZ-S and Z-1 M 1- I need a hotshoe adapter, but which one? FG?, there M are 2, one for allowing the pop-up flash, but I'm not M sure and not sure about its name M 2- A flash adapter, I believe its called F M 3-The cors (I imagine any will do and does not have to M be Pentaxor does it?) f5p M thanks M Michele - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re[2]: Back from trip
Norman, Yes, I just talked to my lab and they can do very good quality scans from the 120, so I'll post some for you to see Brother Bruce Thursday, February 28, 2002, 4:05:40 AM, you wrote: NB Brother Bruce has seen the light! NB Brother Norm NB (hope you'll post some of the shots) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re: Aff camera flash question
Thanks all Does the cord HAVE to be the pentax one? Or can it be any flash cord? Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetingsyahoocom - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re: The Kodak talk
Ed, I'm feeling left out I haven't had the Portra or Kodak talk from my lab They always tell me they like it and process tons of it The camera store where I bought my 67II did give me a different Kodak talk They have quit carrying Kodak films because of Kodak's requirement of carrying more films than they could sell I believe Aaron experienced similar problems Because of that, they mostly carry Fuji Bruce Dayton Thursday, February 28, 2002, 4:14:56 AM, you wrote: EM So Tom's photo finisher has the Portra talk with him, and last night EM my finisher has the Kodak talk with me She says that they've been EM having all kinds of problems with Kodak films lately, in that Kodak is EM having a problem with their felt in their canisters So people are EM getting these hairs and small dust blotches on their negatives because EM the felt is breaking away and blocking the light on a negative every now EM and then She said she called Kodak, and they admitted to having the EM problem That reminded me that I've seen it a couple times on T-Max EM I've developed lately Anybody else seen or heard of this? EM Thanks, EM Ed EM http://lightandsilvercom - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
RE: Darkroom operational!
Evan Hanson wrote: This reminds me of my setup with my Durst 606 balanced on the toilet, cramped but it works. What if you (or a family member) need to go? Cheers, - Dave - I expect their bladders would be *enlarged*. Malcolm - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Uh-Oh :^D
Join the fold Brother Oregon Bill Glad to have you aboard! Good goin' on the price! Brother Bruce Thursday, February 28, 2002, 1:45:09 PM, you wrote: BDC Firstly, allow me to attempt to quelch the ensuing Rah-Rahs BDC sure to commence, as I have been after one of these for a BDC long time - since way before discovering the PDML;^) BDC I had dropped in to the local mini-lab to pick up some bw BDC paper for a project and noticed a somewhat large photographic BDC device in the display window Sez I to the counterguy, Is BDC Jim selling off his old 67? Reply - Yeah, wants to get BDC some stuff for his truck Me - How much? He - $500 BDC Me (after a few pertinent ?'s in re MLU) Put 'sold' on it, BDC I'll be right back BDC As I type, beside me sits an MLU 6x7 w/ standard prism and BDC 105 f24 Super-Multicoated Takumar in most excellent condition BDC Seemed like a steal at US$500 to me, and what better to do BDC w/ the ten $50's I've been stashing in the desk drawer! !8^) BDC So - I guess I have down-sized enough for consideration BDC of membership in that fellowship of oddballs so much bally-hooed BDC of late :^) BDC Oregon -( he's got 'em all! )- Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re: Dumb camera strap question
Peter Apology accepted. I didn't much enjoy your post, but I certainly wasn't offended. I'll leave getting offended by the internet to more sensitive souls! All the best Jim Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 13:10:42 -0500 From: Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Dumb camera strap question Jim, First off, I want to apologize to both you and Wendy. I had no intention of seriously offending either of you. My only excuse is that it was late I was tired and I have a tendency to make connections that aren't apparent to anyone else, (you can judge whether or not I'm simply hallucinating or not). My only reason for this post was to comment on the tendency I have seen on the Internet of people to claim expertise for all things, whether they have a right to or not. I do not claim this in this case however. Let me recount the events as I see them, snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
Overall, I agree with the thread saying that many Pentax cameras are generally underrated like the Z-1(p), LX, MZ-S and MZ-3 However, among this group/pentax owners My bet would be on the SuperA, seems to be completeseems because I never actually had one but lusted when looking to rid myself of the P30 and was a pennyless student Michele Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetingsyahoocom - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
RE: The most under-rated Pentax body (MZ-3?)
On the other hand it's almost the same thing as MZ/ZX-5N. I got my MZ-3 only because that was the only way of getting the 43/1.9 initially. If it had been possible I would have bought the 43 and MZ-5N separately, I never wanted the quartz back anyway. 1/2000 is definitely fast enough for me, and I couldn't see the practical difference between 1/100 and 1/125 for flash sync. Anyway, I've been extremely pleased with the camera. Until last autumn, that is. It was exposed to moisture in the rain forest in Malaysia for one day, went dead but woke up two days later in Kuala Lumpur. Back home I sent it to Pentax, who found damages inside and gave it the verdict costs more to fix than buying a new body. It works, but how long? Can't blame it on the camera though, I should have been more careful. I'll probably start saving for a MZ-S AND a proper camera bag... -Original Message- From: Brendan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: den 28 februari 2002 20:46 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The most under-rated Pentax body The MZ-3 is a very under rated camera, I should Know :-) --- Collin Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Might help if the let us have it! (A ZX-3 it would be.) Collin -- From: Peter Smekal [EMAIL PROTECTED] What body do you think doesn't get the press it deserves? Must be the MZ3. A very nice camera together with the limited lenses. Seldom mentioned even on this list. __ Find, Connect, Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 6x7 Brotherhood: It's arrived!
David, Congrats! I am anxious to hear what you think of it This is one that I would be considering in the future Bruce Dayton Thursday, February 28, 2002, 9:24:46 PM, you wrote: DAM Yes, my nice new 6x7 Takumar 300mm f/4 lens arrived from Auckland DAM today The courier, showing a serious lack of intelligence, simply DAM left the NZ$1600 (US$670) package in the mailbox, visible to any DAM passerby, despite someone being home all day At least they got the DAM address right snip DAM Cheers, - Dave - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re: How safe is it?
In a message dated 01/03/02 01:17:13 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: UK tax law demands we keep our paperwork for 7 years - when it comes to disposal I guess we will incinerate, or convert to papier mache. If you get a cross-cut shredder, the output is strips that are about 30mm long an 3mm wide. Big piles of them make great packing material ... just put the item to be shipped inside a plastic bag to keep the shreddies out. Hello Doug. Well, I considered shredding but there are a great many staples in our paperwork. I know, an industrial shredder _should_ be able to cope, but I have a few nasty experiences.. Contrary to popular belief, shredded material obtained in the manner described above does not make good packing. Plus it adds weight to the package. Far better is Sealed Air bubble, or for void fill, polychips. I had considered going to the Sealed Air expanding foam system, but this is relatively expensive for the start-up costs. Kind regards from sunny Brighton Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: The Kodak talk
Amita, I have had hundreds of rolls of Portra developed and have NEVER had a problem like that In fact, I have never had a problem like that with any film I have used Sure sounds like a lab problem to me Bruce Dayton Thursday, February 28, 2002, 11:09:27 PM, you wrote: So Tom's photo finisher has the Portra talk with him, AG Could someone please recap the portra talk for me? Because I missed AG that thread, and I recently got some Portra developed, and half of the AG film was ruined! In random parts of the film, it looks like the AG chemicals got congealed and hardened It was a cheapie lab (Target) AG and I might have thought it was them, but when I went to pick up the AG pictures the girl asked me if the film was old, and then she showed me AG the negatives I've had two other rolls developed there with no AG problem Is there a chance it could be the lab? AG I hope it's not the Portra because this was my second roll of Portra AG VC and I really like it, but this is ridiculous AG --Amita - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re: How shall we describe ourselves?
So, presumably, an on topic mail of a satanic nature might be a pentagram? Kind regards Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re[2]: Aff camera flash question
Michelle, You are talking about a dedicated connection here Those adapters are designed to work with the capabilities of the flash unit and camera body (TTL, etc) So the answer is you must use the Pentax cord Bruce Dayton Friday, March 01, 2002, 12:32:09 AM, you wrote: M Thanks all M Does the cord HAVE to be the pentax one? Or can it be M any flash cord? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re: Wotzit mean?
Dnia 1-03-2002 o godz. 1:17 Leszek G napisa(a): Maciek, that was great!!! But speaking of translations pl-eng and eng-pl as a simple ones I'd disagree... To make it brighter, check out pl.rec.foto, there was something more about it, concerning an old article by Staszek Stawowy. Follow the links, yu'll first find the original article, and few posts later there is a translation (done by some smart-and-all-other-stuff-software). It's just a thing you have to read :))) When I called the translation simple I didn't think of the computer based translators - the results from them are somewhat funny indeed. I said because I've looked at the sentence and right away knew what it means :-) Than, it wouldn't be so easy today as I caught cold... Maciej PS.: I wonder what's going to be added after my mail - I type it through the www based e-mail browser :-) --- Wybierz i wygraj gr 2001 roku - Imperatorki 2001 Wystarczy klikn! http://gry.wp.pl/imperatorki/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Switching to Pentax
Bruce wrote: FYI Nikon deleted the aperture ring only from their G, cheapo lenses. This only effects users of MF bodies. The aperture is controlled from the body for all of the AF cameras. All the AF lenses have a lock to keep the lens at its smallest aperture (A) setting. Canon and Minolta dropped the aperture ring when they to AF, with new lens mounts and also body controlled f stop. Nope. Nikon have just shown the AF-S 70-200/2.8 VR G lens without aperture ring. This lens ain't going to be cheap. I guess this signalizes that Nikon will convert gradually to G lenses without aperture rings. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: The most under-rated Pentax body (MZ-3?)
the signature sez it Pat _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photosmsncom/support/worldwideaspx - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re: Re[2]: Aff camera flash question
thanks --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michelle, You are talking about a dedicated connection here. Those adapters are designed to work with the capabilities of the flash unit and camera body (TTL, etc). So the answer is you must use the Pentax cord. Bruce Dayton Friday, March 01, 2002, 12:32:09 AM, you wrote: M Thanks all... M Does the cord HAVE to be the pentax one? Or can it be M any flash cord? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Aff camera flash question
Does the cord HAVE to be the pentax one? Or can it be any flash cord? If you use other cords, there will be no TTL regards, Alan Chan _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorermsncom/intlasp; - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
The P30T Durable Dent/ding resistant Manual/Ap-Priority/Prog Feels good Never got off the ground without a motor drive Nice used ones (hard to find a bad one) for under $100 As I remember, P50 was lesser known than the P30 series which appeared in ads constantly when I was in Australia regards, Alan Chan _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorermsncom/intlasp; - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re: MZ-S Scratched LCD panel
Nicolas wrote: I scratched the LCD panel on my MZ-S. Is there anyway to repair it without sending the camera to Pentax? To replace the glass, the whole dial assembly needs to be replaced. I wish they started using that glass type used on expensive watches. Perhaps something for the flagship? Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
Overall, I agree with the thread saying that many Pentax cameras are generally underrated like the Z-1(p), LX, MZ-S and MZ-3 However, among this group/pentax owners My bet would be on the SuperA, seems to be completeseems because I never actually had one but lusted when looking to rid myself of the P30 and was a pennyless student I also like the Super A/Program a lot too However, there are many on the used market so it should not do too badly in the 80's regards, Alan Chan _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photosmsncom/support/worldwideaspx - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re: Uh-Oh :^D
Congrats Brother Oregon Bill, what a steal and you'll love the 105 wide open! Cheers, Brother Norm - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
Alan, The poor P50 came out at the time AF took hold and was considered a poor sister to the AFs. I have one and I would rather use it than a P30. The sample I have has a rectangular microprism that takes up about 1/3 of the screen area. The first I have seen and the last that I saw. For that reason alone, I kept the camera and use it from time to time. A great camera at the wrong time. Bob Rapp - Original Message - From: Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 9:04 PM Subject: Re: The most under-rated Pentax body The P30T. Durable. Dent/ding resistant. Manual/Ap-Priority/Prog. Feels good. Never got off the ground without a motor drive. Nice used ones (hard to find a bad one) for under $100. As I remember, P50 was lesser known than the P30 series which appeared in ads constantly when I was in Australia. regards, Alan Chan _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
I forgot, It takes the ME windera and the A motor drive!! Bob Rapp - Original Message - From: Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 9:04 PM Subject: Re: The most under-rated Pentax body The P30T. Durable. Dent/ding resistant. Manual/Ap-Priority/Prog. Feels good. Never got off the ground without a motor drive. Nice used ones (hard to find a bad one) for under $100. As I remember, P50 was lesser known than the P30 series which appeared in ads constantly when I was in Australia. regards, Alan Chan _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50mm F1.7 - M
Especially ultra telephoto, and ultra wide angle shots. Ciao, Graywolf - Original Message - From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:43 AM Subject: RE: 50mm F1.7 - M On 1 Mar 2002 at 0:27, J. C. O'Connell wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1333698770 But this speedy lens is the perfect companion for you Pentax camera. It is compact for easy wielding, yet is of the utmost quality. tv Yes, but is it better than the 50mm F1.4 which is faster and can be bought for less money?? It's compactness and versatility make it suitable for almost all picture-taking needs. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50mm F1.7 - M
You guys are really somethin' ... have you nothing better to do with your time than to criticize someone you don't know for how they spend their money. The lens looks great, and it may be just what the buyer has been looking for or needs. He is from Japan and seems to be a collector. Yet you feel a need to be judgmental of the buyer's choice, and to poke fun of the seller's language skills as well. Shame on you ... J. C. O'Connell wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of tom Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 50mm F1.7 - M On 1 Mar 2002 at 0:05, J. C. O'Connell wrote: is this absurd or what? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1333698770 This buyer isnt very smart is he? But this speedy lens is the perfect companion for you Pentax camera. It is compact for easy wielding, yet is of the utmost quality. tv Yes, but is it better than the 50mm F1.4 which is faster and can be bought for less money?? JCO -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50mm F1.7 - M
On 1 Mar 2002 at 3:08, Shel Belinkoff wrote: The lens looks great, and it may be just what the buyer has been looking for or needs He is from Japan and seems to be a collector Yet you feel a need to be judgmental of the buyer's choice, and to poke fun of the seller's language skills as well Shame on you I was making fun of his ebay selling skills, like we *often* do here (LQQK! MINTY), but thanks for the ethics lesson tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re: Uh-Oh :^D
The 105/2.4 is great wide open. I shot a portrait of my daughter as she was doing her homework with the 6x7, handheld at 2.4 and 1/30th with good results. At that speed, one can't always get good results, but at 1/125, the 6x7 and 105 deliver every time. Paul Bill D. Casselberry wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: ... It's hard to pass up a great deal on one of these cameras. Seemed too good to be true to me. He had only had it for sale for ~a week. Apparently a couple others expressed intrest, but I had the wherewithal to be able to drive home and be back w/ ten US Grants in 15 minutes. The big camera is a great tool and I use it extensively, but that MX and pancake lens do still fit in my pocket. I'll probably continue w/ my Bessa Technique of taking along the 300mm or 400mm (or both TC) w/ one of the Program series Pentax and using the tele as a sort of spotmeter w/ same asa film in 35mm. I like that the 105 f2.4 is said to be good at wide aperture, opening possibilities for more casual handheld use at maximum shutter speeds. Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Uh-Oh :^D
On Thursday, February 28, 2002, at 06:23 PM, T Rittenhouse wrote: I thought you guys shaved your heads Now you are claiming long hair Just how am I supposed to tell a 6x7 fanatic from the other Pentaxians? By the big black cameras that are not F5s in our hands C'mon, Tom, I mean, yeah, they're not huge, but you can't HIDE a 67 on your person, can you? -Brother Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
However, among this group/pentax owners My bet would be on the SuperA, seems to be completeseems because I never actually had one but lusted when looking to rid myself of the P30 and was a pennyless student I used a Super Program (USA version of the Super A) for years and really like it I own several, plus several more back-up bodies for when those die Part of the problem is that I am a sucker for a bargain When I see a Super Program/Super A for under $75, I have an urge to buy it What a great camera at a great price! I bought a Super Program last month on ebay for $25 It was described as not functional/for parts, but came with the grip and a lens so what the hell! After about 30 minutes of clean-up/fix-up, I had a working Super Program (Gave it to my sister to move her up from the pair of ME Supers she uses) Regards, Bob S - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
RE: The Kodak talk
Hmmm. This local lab I go to is a small store also. I wonder if that might have something to do with their opinion about Kodak films The only thing that still bothers me a little about what the owner told me, is that recently, I have had a couple instances of specs on a random frame of T-Max here and there that I develop myself. I guess the jury is still out on this one. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bruce Dayton Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 3:32 AM To: Ed Mathews Subject: Re: The Kodak talk snip The camera store where I bought my 67II did give me a different Kodak talk. They have quit carrying Kodak films because of Kodak's requirement of carrying more films than they could sell. I believe Aaron experienced similar problems. Because of that, they mostly carry Fuji. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Best portrait lens for Pentax DSLR?
Okay, this one should be interesting. Someone posted recently that they had recalculated some Pentax lens focal lengths to take into account the upcoming DSLR, bearing in mind that the sensor, whether CCD, CMOS, Foveon or whatever, is likely to be smaller than the 24X36mm film frame. Exact mathematics obviously TBA, but assuming a nominal multiplier of 1.5X normal film-frame focal length, what existing Pentax lens would become the ideal portrait lens? My thoughts: a 50mm 1.2 or 1.4 would give effectively ~75mm and both are cracking good lenses, no? My A*85 suddenly becomes ~127mm which is too much for me (for portraiture), but wow, a 127mm lens at f1.4 - great medium sports gear or what! Are there any lenses over 50mm but under 85mm? The 77 Ltd, okay that gives ~115mm, and too much for me. I'm starting to think 50mm might be good, especially at 1.2! If not, my Tokina 28-70 2.6/2.8 suddenly becomes my favourite portrait lens, giving me ~42mm-105mm - a pretty good range for my portraiture. Obviously this train of thought carries on and applies to... Best good wide. Best street lens. Best telephoto. Best wide zoom. Best medium zoom, Best long zoom. Cat --- pigeons. Comments? Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Best portrait lens for Pentax DSLR?
There is the SMC Pentax A 35~70/4.0 which can be purchased pretty reasonably. What does cracking good mean? What characteristics do you look for in a portrait lens? Cotty wrote: assuming a nominal multiplier of 1.5X normal film-frame focal length, what existing Pentax lens would become the ideal portrait lens? My thoughts: a 50mm 1.2 or 1.4 would give effectively ~75mm and both are cracking good lenses, no? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Shutter Speed when not using Camera...
My KX and KM manuals state that the camera should be stored with both self-timer and shutter left uncocked. -Lon Tim Engel wrote: 26 Feb 02, Paul F. Stregevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I respect, but don't understand, the advice to store your camera uncocked. Aren't we also told, When going out to shoot, keep your camera cocked at all times? What are we to do if (as usually happens) we don't take that final hoped-for shot: blow a shot just to extend the life of the spring? Paul, Life's all about choices and priorities. We don't have to do anything, but it's nice to understand the trade-offs. ;-) Tim - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: 50mm F1.7 - M
Just proves that good pictures and well chosen words can pull suckers right out of cyberspace. :) Len --- -Original Message- From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 11:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 50mm F1.7 - M On 1 Mar 2002 at 0:05, J. C. O'Connell wrote: is this absurd or what? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1333698770 This buyer isnt very smart is he? But this speedy lens is the perfect companion for you Pentax camera. It is compact for easy wielding, yet is of the utmost quality. tv - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
On Thursday, February 28, 2002, at 08:38 PM, tom wrote: BTW, I can't make it to Toronto Saturday, I have to help a friend move That's no excuse! Hell, I'M moving on Saturday, and I'm STILL coming out to meet the Toronto PDMLers -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re: The Kodak talk
On Friday, March 1, 2002, at 03:32 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote: The camera store where I bought my 67II did give me a different Kodak talk They have quit carrying Kodak films because of Kodak's requirement of carrying more films than they could sell I believe Aaron experienced similar problems Because of that, they mostly carry Fuji My problem is that Kodak insists that I purchase their film through a reseller rather than directly They keep saying, You have to buy $X of film yearly to buy direct, and we say, We do, in fact we buy twice that, they say, Call us when you've been doing it for three years Well, now I have been doing it for longer, and they're still not interested I could probably move double what I do now if I had a competitive price on the material, and if I had a competitive price I'd stock more of the line (I only stock bw film from Kodak now) Fuji, on the other hand, recently bumped me from Regional Dealer status up to the next level, because of how much film I sold last year This means further discounts and better/more frequent promotions on pro films I stock every pro film that Fuji market in North America except for duping film, MS100/1000 and Provia 1600 (the last two because I feel that Provia 400F is better than both of them at high speeds) And we've been an Agfa Pro Point dealer since day one Thus, Fuji have convinced me to keep a deeper stock of their materials (where I stocked 20 rolls before, now I stock 40 or 50) Meanwhile, lack of Kodak colour film has pushed our sales of Kodak colour paper down the toilet, so I'm now considering ditching it all together and keeping a deeper stock of Fuji colour paper Kodak are not fun to deal with if you are a little guy Also, what's even more frustrating is that I have worked for two labs with far lower film sales volumes than I have now, both of which had direct Kodak accounts and reps Ah, the joy of the business world I shall now stop ranting and finish drinking my coffee ;) -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re: The Kodak talk
I shoot mostly Kodak E100S and sometimes VS and have not seen this problem - but I buy the film in bulk and it has been at least 6 months since my last purchase, so if it is a recent problem I may not have seen it. - MCC At 07:14 AM 2/28/02 -0500, you wrote: So Tom's photo finisher has the Portra talk with him, and last night my finisher has the Kodak talk with me. She says that they've been having all kinds of problems with Kodak films lately, in that Kodak is having a problem with their felt in their canisters. So people are getting these hairs and small dust blotches on their negatives because the felt is breaking away and blocking the light on a negative every now and then. She said she called Kodak, and they admitted to having the problem. That reminded me that I've seen it a couple times on T-Max I've developed lately. Anybody else seen or heard of this? Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Uh-Oh :^D
On Thursday, February 28, 2002, at 11:37 PM, Bill D Casselberry wrote: I like that the 105 f24 is said to be good at wide aperture, opening possibilities for more casual handheld use at maximum shutter speeds It is absolutely GREAT wide open Man, if I had seen that, mister credit card would be burnin' up Then again, do I want to put two 67 bodies in my backpack? Hrmm -Aaron who wouldn't want to carry two F5s or D1s, either - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
I'd vote for the Pz-1p. At the time it came out it was head to head competitive with the N90 and other higher end bodies of the day at a substantially lower price, but it was never promoted or picked up on by reviewers. - MCC At 08:39 AM 2/28/02 -0500, you wrote: What body do you think doesn't get the press it deserves? I like the P3. Lots of metal. Two practical exposure modes. (As long as it has manual ...) Feels good to hold. ... and the A3000. Solid feeling. Durable motor winder. And, they go cheap. $50 or so. What do you think? -- --- Get over it. Dr. Laura -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How Safe Is It?
I used an ISP for about a year in the early 90's and then switched. A year later, my bother signed up with them and happened to pick the same ID (cassino). He suddenly started receiving year and a half to two year old emails that had originally been addressed to me. After that, I decided not to send credit card info via email. Why not just make a phone call and give it to them verbally? But - what you did is probably safer than dealing with the shops that still take and impress of the card and have carbons, or giving your card to a wait person who walks off with it for a while... - MCC At 06:52 AM 2/28/02 -0800, you wrote: I just purchased a few items by using a credit card. I sent the CC number broken up in three email messages. Now I'm wondering how safe that really is. Is it a safe method of transmitting such information? -- - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 6x7 Brotherhood: It's arrived!
On Friday, March 1, 2002, at 12:30 AM, J C O'Connell wrote: I have one of these and from my tests it's a truly excellent lens I dont understand why they came out with a more expensive ED version, if it's signifigantly better, it must be out of this world Doesn't the new 300mm ED have a better minimum focus distance? I was shopping for a used 300mm before I bought the 75mm -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
On Friday, March 1, 2002, at 12:24 AM, David A Mann wrote: Someone ought to buy Aaron an Auto 110 ;) I'd probably lose it -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
RE: Spotmatic - help needed....
It sounds like a transitional model. The two screws baffles me though. I'd need to see pictures to be sure we're talking about the same thing. ppro -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eduardo Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 8:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Spotmatic - help needed Thank you! You have lots of information about my camera that I wasn't even aware of...:-) I'm comparing this one to a later production one (product nº23102) and it seems to me that the details were slowly changing at that time because my earlier one have some of the peculiarities that you've mentioned but lacks others. If that's correct, there's no way of establishing a precise date in which the product changed (except for the change to product 23102)... Meter ASA Range. Does it only go to 800? This would further indicate an early production version. No. it goes to 1600. Top Cover. Is there a screw that is partially hidden by the film advance lever on the top of the cover? Or is there a screw on the right side of the camera that contributes to holding the top cover on? The latter is an indication of early production. Actually it has both screws. The one on the side of the body is exactly the same shape of the one partially hidden by the lever. Film Counter. The cover of the film counter on early Spotmatics is taller than later cameras. Yes. That's one detail I wasn't aware of until I put the two bodies side by side. The earlier one is higher. It's shape is also similar to the film REWIND knob on the other side of the camera. Film Back. Late production Spotmatics, Spotmatic II's, some Sp500 and SP1000's have a chrome roller that presses the film flat. It is very unlikely that this roller will be present on early Spotmatics with the original film back, and is not present on most Spotmatics of any vintage. Both of them lack the roller you've described. There are differences in the focusing screen, self timer, engraving lettering font, strap triangle rings, etc. The only one I could notice is that ther earlier's focusing screem has it's fresnel lines more tightly spaced. Can't comment about strap rings --- thanks, Steve --- because it lacked them when I bought it. In fact, the seller omitted to mention the frozen battery cover and the misaligned second curtain on his Ebay description and I almost returned the camera --- I ended up deciding against doing so because he was such a difficult guy to comunicate with. Now I'm glad I didn't. I think you're correct; it's an interesting piece of Pentax's history. She's not at risk of being used too much. Like many people here, I have much more cameras than I need, although much less than I wanted...:-) My personal view is that the earliest Spotmatic cameras are interesting from an industrial design and historical perspective, and are fine cameras. As a camera for practical use, later refinements in the Spotmatic family of cameras led to improvements which subtly improved the line. If I were to find an early camera, I would make it operational and use it sparingly to keep it operational but would rely on later versions for regular photography. ppro -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eduardo Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 1:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Spotmatic - help needed Hi, Sometime ago I bought a very old Spotmatic for cheap with some problems. I had the problems fixed and it works perfectly now. I'm intrigued by some of it's details and wonder if someone could help me determine the age of the camera. I guess it's an early one (product nº231). But I couldn't find more precise information about it. It's meter switch is narrower that the later, more common kind and the arrow pointing up is engraved on the camera rather than on the switch. It doesn't look like something adapted, IMHO. Besides that, the battery chamber (is this the correct name) is made entirely of metal (I understand the later ones are not like this) which I'm not sure was not adapted to the camera. What I would like to know is: 1) Is it really an early one (product nº231)? 2) If so, are these details --- meter switch and battery chamber --- correct? 3) Accordingly to the AOHC, product nº231 was built from 7/1964 until 1965, but it doesn't say which month it's production ceased (It also states that product nº23102 was built from 1965, without further detail). Can someone at least say if production stopped in the first or second semester of that year? 4) It's serial nº is 1160700. Could it be the 700th Spotmatic built? Thanks in advance for sharing your expertise. Eduardo. -Mensagem original- De: David A. Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Data: Sexta-feira, 1 de Março
Re: Spotmatic - help needed....
UPs!Time for a small correction. There are differences in the focusing screen, self timer, engraving lettering font, strap triangle rings, etc. The only one I could notice is that ther earlier's focusing screem has it's fresnel lines more tightly spaced. The later one has the lines more tightly packed. The earlier one uses a screen that looks a lot like the ones used on the SV/H3v. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: 50mm F1.7 - M
Ihave one now too.Found it while cleaning out some stuff at my parents house last night.Also found his other K1000 body(with apologize to Nitin and GrayWolfg) and a A series 28-80 zoom. I dont remember using the zoom ever,any comments on this one?? Also found my old Kodak Pony 133.Anyone remember those. What did it take for film?? Dave Begin Original Message From: Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 08:31:56 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 50mm F1.7 - M I checked the bid history. All the other bidders had 0 or 1 for previous transactions, and most had sunglasses, indicating new bidders or bidders with new identities! J. C. O'Connell wrote: is this absurd or what? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1333698770 This buyer isnt very smart is he? JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Uh-Oh :^D
Bill D Casselberry wrote: I had dropped in to the local mini-lab to pick up some bw paper for a project and noticed a somewhat large photographic device in the display window Sez I to the counterguy, Is Jim selling off his old 67? Reply - Yeah, wants to get some stuff for his truck Me - How much? He - $500 Me (after a few pertinent ?'s in re MLU) Put 'sold' on it, I'll be right back As I type, beside me sits an MLU 6x7 w/ standard prism and 105 f24 Super-Multicoated Takumar in most excellent condition Now don't that just toast your biscuit! Jeeze, the brotherhood starts flaunting robes and _large_ negatives and magic numbers (they seem to say 6 and 7 a whole lot) and then our very own Bill Casselberry, the make-do dude who screwmounts Program Pluses, takes a few hunnered bucks that was 'SPOSED to fix the roof leak and buys a Brotherhood Box This is my way of saying congratulations, Bill grin -Lon - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
ME-II Winder
I have the above that will go on eBay if nobody here wants it. It's in excellent condition but is missing the cap over the cable connection. $60.00 plus shipping. Please reply OFFLIST to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] if interested. Later, Gary - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Shredders (was Re: How safe is it?)
Hi Peter, On Fri, 1 Mar 2002 04:10:23 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I considered shredding but there are a great many staples in our paperwork. I know, an industrial shredder _should_ be able to cope, but I have a few nasty experiences.. I was at a (document management) business show some years ago and there was a company displaying industrial shredders. One of them was as big as a Mini Cooper (Cooper Mini?). The salesman tossed a 3 three-ring binder filled with heavy ad pages into the beast. It chewed up everything but the metal binder itself, which it dumped into a bin to the side. Then he pulled the binder out of the bin, threw it into the beast's maw, and it chewed that up too! Of course, that thing probably cost US$100k, and that was back in the late 1980s. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Best portrait lens for Pentax DSLR?
Bob wrote: I think Pal was trying to hint to us some time ago that the Limited lens series had some digital implications. No. That wasn't me. I don't think the Limited lenses has anything to do with digital per se. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Spotmatic - help needed....
It sounds like a transitional model. The two screws baffles me though. I'd need to see pictures to be sure we're talking about the same thing. Yes, it has both screws. If you look at the body from it's right side, there's a screw in the exact middle of it's width and just three milimeters above the back door hinge. Upon further inspection, it seems the same screw size was used on three different places: 1) partially underneath the film advance lever; 2) on the right (from the back of the camera) side of the top cover; 3) the two outer screws of the base plate (the ones closer to the tripod socket are smaller). - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How shall we describe ourselves?
The websites you all have are known, of course, in the computer world as Penthacks. Simon King wrote: I just checked my OED and found the following. I recommend the following definition changes however... 1. Pentahydrate: What you do at the bar after a day taking photo's 2. Pentalemma: Do I buy an MZ-S or a PZ-1p? 3. Pentarsic: Feeling off colour 4. Pentabasic: A KM? 5. Pentacarbon: A PDMLer with a nice set of wheels 6. Pentamery: A PDMLer after too many drinks [see PENTAHYDRATE] :-) Simon ...and for those who want to know the real meaning... 1. A hydrate that contains five molecules of water in each molecule 2. An argument analogous to a dilemma, involving five alternatives 3. [arsis], having five stresses 4. Chem., having five atoms of a base, or of replaceable hydrogen 5. Chem., combining five atoms of carbon: cf. pentane 6. A condition in which structures are present in groups of five -Original Message- From: Paul M. Provencher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 1 March 2002 10:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: How shall we describe ourselves? Do I sense some pent up frustrations? What do we call it when it all ends? Pentagon? ppro -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 8:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How shall we describe ourselves? Our religion is Pentecostal; Unit of weight is Pentagrams; Pentangle is the favorite folk group; Volvo Penta marine engines power our boats Paul Stenquist wrote: And of course, I work for Pentamark. (Pentamark Worldwide, an Omnicom company) Collin Brendemuehl wrote: Our land: Pentaxia Our selves: Pentaxians (or Pentaxer for the Teutonic membership) Our language: Penta Our disease: Pentaxitis Our men: Pentamen Our women:Pentawow Our children: Pentikes Our cars: Pentacedes Our towns:Pentavilles Our cities: Pentropolis Our suppliers:Angels Suppliers of competitive brands: Pimps :) * Get over it. Dr. Laura --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ If you are a bad technician, it doesn't matter how big your negs are. - PDML member - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The Kodak talk
I can`t understand why Kodak keeps shooting themselves in the foot. My film guy at Riviera Photo (the only dealer around who gives me a discount) was ranting for at least five minutes the other day how hard Kodak is to deal with. I think Fuji is going to push them out in the not too distant future, when a few more emulsions are added. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California Aaron wrote: [snip] Kodak are not fun to deal with if you are a little guy. Also, what's even more frustrating is that I have worked for two labs with far lower film sales volumes than I have now, both of which had direct Kodak accounts and reps. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: 50mm F1.7 - M
I only know of two basic models There was the series that uses 35mm film and the unique 828 Halfway between 35mm and 127 Really a rather nice neg size About 2x 35mm in space Too bad it wasn't in a cartridge Probably could have killed either 35mm or 127 Collin -- snip Also found my old Kodak Pony 133Anyone remember those What did it take for film?? Dave -- --- Get over it Dr Laura -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re: Re[2]: The Kodak talk
To vere off to Fuji for a second,the problem i have with the lab i use,when shooting his Superia 400,is the print takes on the contrast of the predominant colour of the photo.He is a Fuji lab and using Fugi paper.I went back to Kodak. If i can remember,i'll bring this up with Aaron on Sat. Dave Begin Original Message From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 01:12:11 -0800 To: Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re[2]: The Kodak talk Amita, I have had hundreds of rolls of Portra developed and have NEVER had a problem like that. In fact, I have never had a problem like that with any film I have used. Sure sounds like a lab problem to me. Bruce Dayton Thursday, February 28, 2002, 11:09:27 PM, you wrote: So Tom's photo finisher has the Portra talk with him, AG Could someone please recap the portra talk for me? Because I missed AG that thread, and I recently got some Portra developed, and half of the AG film was ruined! In random parts of the film, it looks like the AG chemicals got congealed and hardened. It was a cheapie lab (Target) AG and I might have thought it was them, but when I went to pick up the AG pictures the girl asked me if the film was old, and then she showed me AG the negatives. I've had two other rolls developed there with no AG problem. Is there a chance it could be the lab? AG I hope it's not the Portra because this was my second roll of Portra AG VC and I really like it, but this is ridiculous. AG --Amita - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Strange bokeh on 80-200 f/4,7-5,6
Hi, Check out this pic: http://fototokartpl/photophp?pe57 It's a portrait of me:)), taken by my wife with her MZ-7 and SMC FA 80-200 f/4,7-5,6 (on the Kodak Supra 400) Apart from the fact, that the camera's matrix performed IMHO perfectly in the potentially difficult situation of a backlit portrait, exposing the main subject properly, I don't like the bokeh and don't understand why it turned out to look like that of a mirror lens It never behaved like this I dropped this lens on a concrete floor (an UV Hoya filter was shattered into tiny pieces) not long ago, but everything seemed to be ok What's the idea? Greetz Artur -- Okresl Swoje potrzeby - my znajdziemy oferte za Ciebie! [ http://ofertyonetpl ] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re: Spotmatic - help needed....
Every time I look at it I see another difference. The earlier one has only the serial number engraved on the LEFT size of it's top cover, while the later one (already product nº23102) has both the number and an SP. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Wotzit mean?
---Original Message--- Subject: Re: Wotzit mean? It goes somewhat like this: Describe your needs - we will find an offer for you! Artur should better stick to english on PDML, instead of using Polish :) greets, Leszek Aye:)) I definitely should:))) And also thanx to Maciek for the explanation and translation of that free-mail-account crap Greetz Artur PS: I'm sure you'll find another crap below:))) -- Okresl Swoje potrzeby - my znajdziemy oferte za Ciebie! [ http://ofertyonetpl ] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re: Strange bokeh on 80-200 f/4,7-5,6
On Fri, 1 Mar 2002 15:44:31 +0100 (Europa rodkowa (czas stand.)), Artur Ledóchowski wrote: Check out this pic: http://fototok.art.pl/photo.php?pe57 The picture is not showing up on this end Later, Gary - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
KX + 3 lens listing
I wrote to the seller of a chrome (silver) KX with 3 lenses at http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1336001762 to ask which lens models, exactly, the camera comes with. The answer is: SMC Pentax 135/3.5K (not the M) SMC PENTAX-M 50/1.7 SMC PENTAX-M 28/2.8 The KX and 135 would make a great walk-around combo. Why settle for the dime-a-dozen M when the K is just a bit longer and just 2 ounces heavier? I have about six current links to the SMC 135; when you can find it, it goes for $70 to $90. Dealers sell working chrome KXs for about $150 to $180. To paraphrase Saint Augustine's divine entreaty about overcoming lust, Dear Father, help me overcome my desire for more bodies and lenses, only not just yet. He could resist everything but temptation. --Oscar Wilde Paul Franklin Stregevsky 13 Selby Court Poolesville, Maryland 20837-2410 [EMAIL PROTECTED] H (301) 349-5243 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: The Kodak talk
On Friday, March 1, 2002, at 09:42 AM, David Brooks wrote: To vere off to Fuji for a second,the problem i have with the lab i use,when shooting his Superia 400,is the print takes on the contrast of the predominant colour of the photo What machine? Even the best machine will produce crap if the channels aren't balanced right -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
Mark wrote: I'd vote for the Pz-1p. At the time it came out it was head to head competitive with the N90 and other higher end bodies of the day at a substantially lower price, but it was never promoted or picked up on by reviewers. Not where I live. The Z-1p was initially expensive. It costed $1000 when new here; the same as the Nikon F90. Anyway, I insist that the only truly under appreciated Pentax is the K2/K2DMD. The K2 would have been a classic if not for the fact that it is overshadowed by the LX. If the LX didn't exist, serious Pentax users would all own the K2(DMD). Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Re[2]: The Kodak talk
Not sure Aaron,I'll see if i can find out. Dave Begin Original Message From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 10:09:31 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re[2]: The Kodak talk On Friday, March 1, 2002, at 09:42 AM, David Brooks wrote: To vere off to Fuji for a second,the problem i have with the lab i use,when shooting his Superia 400,is the print takes on the contrast of the predominant colour of the photo. What machine? Even the best machine will produce crap if the channels aren't balanced right. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: The most under-rated Pentax body (MZ-3?)
I think the MZ-3 is unknown more than under rated. --- MZ3_fella _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the signature sez it Pat _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - __ Find, Connect, Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Uh-Oh :^D
On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Aaron Reynolds wrote: C'mon, Tom, I mean, yeah, they're not huge, but you can't HIDE a 67 on your person, can you? Sure you can - I'm just very happy to see y'all dave -- dave o'brien - http://wwwdiaspoirnet A person is just about as big as the things that make them angry - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Foveon X3: Welcome to the bleeding edge, digital camera enthusiasts!
I just read the article in Shutterbug and man, I can see why this generated so much list traffic earlier in the week - this is not just another new chip That's a big deal The implications are huge It doesn't smell of vaporware, either Few or no color fringing artifacts, drastically reduced processing times Dramatically faster digital cameras 36 bit color and dynamic range! Whew! Basically, all digital cameras (even C* and N* best efforts) that use the old style mosaic chip are shortly to be obsolete I don't believe that's an oversimplification or an exaggeration - it's like moving from a 286 to the 386 - there's simply a big difference (at least in the wintel computing world) between 16 bit and 32 bit computing Anyone heard of plans for a film scanner using this chip yet? That scanner will have similar advantages The wildest part is - this chip simply does a better job at mimicking film in it's multi-layered construction and its ability to capture multiple colors at the exact same X Y coordinates on the film plane! Mosaic chips simply can't do that Hence all that churning after you trip the shutter in a digital camera Imagine if you could design a monitor like that? No more pixels as we currently know them? Sorry, I'm like the guy who came late to the party and can't shut up Who thought a N D1x would be obsolete before my Super Program? (Smile) Yeah, me too Chris Lillja School Publications Guy - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re: Best portrait lens for Pentax DSLR?
On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Shel Belinkoff wrote: There is the SMC Pentax A 35~70/40 which can be purchased pretty reasonably What does cracking good mean? What characteristics do you look for in a portrait lens? It means really rather good, don't you know As for good portrait lenses, I'm personally rather partial to a 20-35 as a lens for getting a pic of people doing things I doubt any non-full frame DSLR will satisfy me for that kind of portrait unless I go back and pay that extortionate amount for the 15/35 If Pentax get a reasonable budget DSLR going, they'll have done something no one else has If anyone complains about it, ask to see any other DLSR to which you can attach either a 15/35 or an 800/40 or anything in between dave -- dave o'brien - http://wwwdiaspoirnet The more crap you put up with, the more crap you are going to get - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Attn: Cub Fans
Here's some Sat Wrigley dates we might plan on Give me some feedback on when we might get together for a game! Apr 6, Pirates Apr 20, Reds Apr 27, Dodgers May 11, Brewers June 1, Houston June 15, CWS June 22, Cards July 13, Fla July 20, Hou -- --- Get over it Dr Laura -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
RE: KX + 3 lens listing
Paul Stregevsky wrote: I wrote to the seller of a chrome (silver) KX with 3 lenses at http://cgiebaycom/aw-cgi/eBayISAPIdll?ViewItemitem=1336001762 to ask which lens models, exactly, the camera comes with The answer is: SMC Pentax 135/35K (not the M) SMC PENTAX-M 50/17 SMC PENTAX-M 28/28 The KX and 135 would make a great walk-around combo Why settle for the dime-a-dozen M when the K is just a bit longer and just 2 ounces heavier? According to both Boz' site and George de Fockert's site, the K is four groups, four elements The M is five groups, five elements Seems like a good reason to prefer the M in this case Am I missing something? Or is the simpler design of the K actually a better-corrected optic? Bill Peifer Rochester, NY - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re: Best portrait lens for Pentax DSLR?
I posted this last week: http://www.hack.net/dslr.html The 31 limited becomes a 50mm at 1.6x The 50 becomes 80 at 1.6x (I'm thinking 1.6x, since the price is $1200). Of course, now I'm paranoid that they'll orphan this camera just as fast as the switch from the Optio 330-430. (Although I do enjoy the low light capabilities of the 330). -R - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 6:39 AM Subject: Re: Best portrait lens for Pentax DSLR? Cotty, This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Testing the 135-600 6.7 SMCT
wow...that kind of sharpness at 500mm? that's terrific! would love to play with that bad boy! Brendan MacRae - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Best portrait lens for Pentax DSLR?
On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Ed Mathews wrote: The problem with this is that there is no set standard of a multiplier that will be agreed upon and standard for any length of time If there ever is a Pentax digital SLR, it might require a 15 X focal length, but it might not And there's no telling what the next one after that would require This is all temporary right now It really doesn't matter If Pentax get out an affordable DSLR with the promise of better coverage and higher resolution in later versions it'll still be a coup Kodak and Nikon offerings are high-end If Pentax can target the mid-range SLR buyer with affordable second hand lenses for a DSLR, they could be onto a winner Think of an advertising campaign: Remember the Spotmatic camera you bought when you were in Vietnam? You know those lenses you've had for thirty years? They'll fit your *new* Pentax Digital Or: We had the first SLR The first AF lens Now the first affordable DLSR which will use all your lenses you bought for our other cameras dave -- dave o'brien - http://wwwdiaspoirnet Each man is his own prisoner, in solitary confinement for life - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re: Uh-Oh :^D
On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Fred wrote: (I'd better be careful here, though - they're also the ones with the big arm muscles - tremble) Any resemblance between 6x7 owners and Popeye is purely coincidental And nothing to do with our consumption of spinach in any way shape or form dave -- dave o'brien - http://wwwdiaspoirnet The Czechs announced after Sputnik that they, too, would launch a satellite Of course, it would orbit Sputnik, not Earth! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re: KX + 3 lens listing
Bill ... More elements and groups doesn't necessarily mean a better optic. There are many factors involved, including the type of glass used, coatings, design of the elements/groups, and so forth. The M lenses were downsized and so may need more elements to come up to the quality of the equivalent K lens - and, as it has been argued, the K lenses in general are better optically than the M lenses. The proof, of course, is in the photograph, not the spec sheets. Peifer, William [OCDUS] wrote: According to both Boz' site and George de Fockert's site, the K is four groups, four elements. The M is five groups, five elements. Seems like a good reason to prefer the M in this case. Am I missing something? Or is the simpler design of the K actually a better-corrected optic? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Foveon X3: Welcome to the bleeding edge, digital cameraenthusiasts!
I'm curious to know if this, or any other film chip can develop blown out pixels over time I suspect they might Can these things get to the point where the sensor is worn out? This is not a problem with film -Lon Christopher Lillja wrote: I just read the article in Shutterbug and man, I can see why this generated so much list traffic earlier in the week - this is not just another new chip That's a big deal The implications are huge It doesn't smell of vaporware, either - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re: Strange bokeh on 80-200 f/4,7-5,6
Sorry:( It seems like my e-mail client cannot present the address correctly. I use the Incredimail and quickly have to switch to a different one, for it s pure crap:((( Sorry for the mess once again. I'll try to send it from another client later I hope somebody will check the pic out anyway... Greetz Artur ---Original Message--- Subject: Re: Strange bokeh on 80-200 f/4,7-5,6 Care to try again? Artur Ledóchowski wrote: Check out this pic: http://fototok.art.pl/photo.php?pe57 The picture is not showing up on this end What the *%$%#!! The link is wrong... Here's the right one... http://fototok.art.pl/photo.php?pe57 -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ -- Okresl Swoje potrzeby - my znajdziemy oferte za Ciebie! [ http://oferty.onet.pl ] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Bayonet Mount
Pentax introduced the K-mount around 1975-77 or so. Nikon had a bayonet mount earlier, perhaps introduced in the late 50s or early 60s. Leica introduced their bayonet mount in 1953 or so, although they had prototypes a few years earlier. Did any manufacturer offer a bayonet mount earlier than the Leica? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50mm F1.7 - M
OK, what would you suggest is the best Pentax ever made, and why? T Rittenhouse wrote: Dave, there is nothing wrong with the K1000, it just is not the best camera Pentax ever made. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Attn: Cub Fans
Collin, April can be mighty cold and windy in Wrigley. June/July/August would be better! g Regards, Bob S. Collin wrote: Here's some Sat. Wrigley dates we might plan on. Give me some feedback on when we might get together for a game! Apr 6, Pirates Apr 20, Reds Apr 27, Dodgers May 11, Brewers June 1, Houston June 15, CWS June 22, Cards July 13, Fla July 20, Hou - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Big Green (?) A* Lenses [was: Green Cameras]
I know I keep mentioning my 400/2.8 and 105SD and 75SHDF pentax gear are all light minty-green, here's someone else (not a PDMLer) who thinks the same: http://www.cloudynights.com/reviews/pentax75.htm And you can see the dark green and orange (complementary) features. -R - Original Message - From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 5:46 PM Subject: Re: Big Green (?) A* Lenses [was: Green Cameras] At 03:34 PM 2/25/02 +0100, you wrote: - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Foveon X3: Welcome to the bleeding edge, digital camera enthusiasts!
-- David Spaulding Photographer http://dspauldingtripodcom Christopher Lillja I just read the article in Shutterbug and man, I can see why this generated so much list traffic earlier in the week - this is not just another new chip That's a big deal The implications are huge It doesn't smell of vaporware, either I wonder if the film insert type digital equipment (the kind you could put into a standard film camera to make it digital) will make another try with the new chip It showed up last year and didn't do much A digital LXooh! I have read the chip allows for a better digital video/digital still transition Digital video cameras/still cameras - the all in one may be the future - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re: Re: Re: 50mm F1.7 - M
True Tom.I was just happy finding the 50mm F1.7 M lens at the same time.:) Dave Begin Original Message From: T Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 12:20:57 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: 50mm F1.7 - M Dave, there is nothing wrong with the K1000, it just is not the best camera Pentax ever made. Ciao, Graywolf - Original Message - From: David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 8:53 AM Subject: Re: Re: 50mm F1.7 - M Ihave one now too.Found it while cleaning out some stuff at my parents house last night.Also found his other K1000 body(with apologize to Nitin and GrayWolfg) and a A series 28-80 zoom. I dont remember using the zoom ever,any comments on this one?? Also found my old Kodak Pony 133.Anyone remember those. What did it take for film?? Dave Begin Original Message From: Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 08:31:56 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 50mm F1.7 - M I checked the bid history. All the other bidders had 0 or 1 for previous transactions, and most had sunglasses, indicating new bidders or bidders with new identities! J. C. O'Connell wrote: is this absurd or what? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1333698770 This buyer isnt very smart is he? JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Re: 50mm F1.7 - M
Yep.Thats the one. Dave Begin Original Message From: T Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 12:22:07 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: 50mm F1.7 - M I would think you mean Pony 135. If so, it is 35mm. Ciao, Graywolf - Original Message - From: David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 8:53 AM Subject: Re: Re: 50mm F1.7 - M Ihave one now too.Found it while cleaning out some stuff at my parents house last night.Also found his other K1000 body(with apologize to Nitin and GrayWolfg) and a A series 28-80 zoom. I dont remember using the zoom ever,any comments on this one?? Also found my old Kodak Pony 133.Anyone remember those. What did it take for film?? Dave Begin Original Message From: Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 08:31:56 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 50mm F1.7 - M I checked the bid history. All the other bidders had 0 or 1 for previous transactions, and most had sunglasses, indicating new bidders or bidders with new identities! J. C. O'Connell wrote: is this absurd or what? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1333698770 This buyer isnt very smart is he? JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: How shall we describe ourselves?
I had some money to do that, but I just spent it to replace a couple of tie rod ends on my old rusty pent-up truck. (You know, the Chevy model with the long wheelbase and large-format bed) Bill Peifer Rochester, NY -Original Message- From: T Rittenhouse [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How shall we describe ourselves? Which reminds me, have you paid your pentaxes yet? Ciao, Graywolf - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
A little OT but Re: Best portrait lens for Pentax DSLR?
I would love to see a DSLR that is still capable of using all Pentax lenses It's one of the best reasons to have a Pentax - so many lenses to choose from! I would have to go with the 77mm for the best lens - it would work great with a full 35mm size chip or smaller -- David Spaulding Photographer http://dspauldingtripodcom - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re: Foveon X3: Welcome to the bleeding edge, digital cameraenthusiasts!
-- Lon Williamson I'm curious to know if this, or any other film chip can develop blown out pixels over time I suspect they might Can these things get to the point where the sensor is worn out? This is not a problem with film I don't really know I haven't heard of any problems, but then I really doubt with the current use of poly plastic parts, the camera would last long enough to find out Either that, or it will be replaced in a year or so - how many different digital SLRs have there been in the last five years? David Spaulding Photographer http://dspauldingtripodcom - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re: Re: Foveon X3: Welcome to the bleeding edge, digitalcameraenthusiasts!
It did with a Panosonic VHS-C video camera 2 years ago.It was faster to give me a new camera than wait for repairs(3months) Dave Begin Original Message From: Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 11:43:32 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Foveon X3: Welcome to the bleeding edge, digitalcameraenthusiasts! I'm curious to know if this, or any other film chip can develop blown out pixels over time. I suspect they might. Can these things get to the point where the sensor is worn out? This is not a problem with film -Lon Christopher Lillja wrote: I just read the article in Shutterbug and man, I can see why this generated so much list traffic earlier in the week - this is not just another new chip. That's a big deal. The implications are huge. It doesn't smell of vaporware, either... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Bayonet Mount
Contax, Exakta, by a long time. I have no idea who was the first company to have one Ciao, Graywolf - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:27 PM Subject: Bayonet Mount Pentax introduced the K-mount around 1975-77 or so. Nikon had a bayonet mount earlier, perhaps introduced in the late 50s or early 60s. Leica introduced their bayonet mount in 1953 or so, although they had prototypes a few years earlier. Did any manufacturer offer a bayonet mount earlier than the Leica? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50mm F1.7 - M
Why do you want to know? Want to trade you LX for one? Ciao, Graywolf - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:28 PM Subject: Re: 50mm F1.7 - M OK, what would you suggest is the best Pentax ever made, and why? T Rittenhouse wrote: Dave, there is nothing wrong with the K1000, it just is not the best camera Pentax ever made. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: How shall we describe ourselves?
Let's see Large format Long bed Sounds like William is tired of 35mm? What do you all think? From: Peifer, William [OCDUS] I had some money to do that, but I just spent it to replace a couple of tie rod ends on my old rusty pent-up truck (You know, the Chevy model with the long wheelbase and large-format bed) -- --- Get over it Dr Laura -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Sigma 70-300 close up lens Fwd: Re: smilephotovideo Order #16257
looks like no one has these :( --- smilephoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reply-to: smilephoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: smilephoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brendan Bhagan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: smilephotovideo Order #16257 Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 12:57:16 -0800 We are out of stock of the Sigma 501-AML 58mm CLOSE-UP LENS. As soon as it comes in we will notify you. Thank you. __ Find, Connect, Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: curious question about digital and lenses
I was just talking to a co-worker with a new digi cam and something dawned on me, while film has a resolution based on molecules, and digital multi molecule sized pixels, lenses can only capture and transmit so much light! Technically digital cannot or ever surpass film if only because the resolving ability of the optics has a finite limit of which some low speed films have already reached In all the tests I have seen many 25 and 50 iso films are capable of more lpm than many lenses currently can resolve Digital still hasn't reached there yet even with the X3 but yet they race ahead and try to develop better chips, yet there doesn't seem to be near as much research into improving optics We all know the quality of the final image is directly related to the optics, yet these digi cams are being stricken with inferior lenses Any one else see a problem here? __ Find, Connect, Date! http://personalsyahooca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #2224
Yes, Greywolf, I just bought a Super Program and I love it, it's great! They really do exist! As for the X3 imaging chip, like I wrote, it doesn't SMELL like vaporware ... time will tell! Chris L. ** Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 12:12:43 -0500 From: T Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Foveon X3: Welcome to the bleeding edge, digital camera enthusiasts! Oh? You bought one then? And are using it now? Ciao, Graywolf - - - Original Message - From: Christopher Lillja [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 10:44 AM Subject: Foveon X3: Welcome to the bleeding edge, digital camera enthusiasts! It doesn't smell of vaporware, either... - - Christopher Lillja Publications Coordinator The Pennington School www.pennington.org - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Shredders (was Re: How safe is it?)
At the bank where I used to work, everyone was asked to separate paper from the rest of their trash. The paper was shipped to a paper mill where it went straight into the pulping machine. This was the non-secure trash. If something was routinely confidential (like customer records) it was separated and then picked up by employees, who retained it in a secure area till they had a truck load and then personally delivered it to the paper mill and maintained a chain of custody with it till it was destroyed. And if you really had a secret, you shredded it before having it picked up and escorted to the paper mill. - MCC At 09:03 AM 3/1/02 -0500, you wrote: Hi Peter, On Fri, 1 Mar 2002 04:10:23 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I considered shredding but there are a great many staples in our paperwork. I know, an industrial shredder _should_ be able to cope, but I have a few nasty experiences.. I was at a (document management) business show some years ago and there was a company displaying industrial shredders. One of them was as big as a Mini Cooper (Cooper Mini?). The salesman tossed a 3 three-ring binder filled with heavy ad pages into the beast. It chewed up everything but the metal binder itself, which it dumped into a bin to the side. Then he pulled the binder out of the bin, threw it into the beast's maw, and it chewed that up too! Of course, that thing probably cost US$100k, and that was back in the late 1980s. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Darkroom operational!
Our apartment is small but we do have two bathrooms. The problem I run into most is my youngest daughter wants to help and things get very crowded very quickly. Evan From: David A. Mann What if you (or a family member) need to go? Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ (out of date) - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Uh-Oh :^D
Vegetables are what food eats. Len --- -Original Message- From: Aaron Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 10:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Uh-Oh :^D That reminds me, Toronto PDMLers: the asparagus and tofu on a bed of spinach at Spring Rolls is absolutely divine. -Aaron ;) - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Bayonet Mount
Shel asked: Did any manufacturer offer a bayonet mount earlier than the Leica? and Graywolf answered: Contax, Exakta, by a long time I have no idea who was the first company to have one The Ihagee Kine-Exakta, first produced in 1936, was the world's first SLR to use the now-ubiquitous cine film cartridge with the 24mm by 36mm format (I've got one of these -- still works pretty good, but the shutter gets a little temperamental during wintertime night photography) So it would certainly be correct to say that this is the first 35mm SLR with a bayonet mount Not sure if there were earlier, non-SLR, non-35mm bodies with interchangeable bayonet-mount lenses Bill Peifer Rochester, NY - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
OT: Carnivore Creed (was Re: Uh-Oh :^D)
Len quoted from the Carnivore's Creed: Vegetables are what food eats (Yeah yeah, I know, and fruit are vegetables that try to trick you by tasting good) As a vegetarian, I guess there's only one suitable response: Eat me :-P ;-) -- Glenn, feeling silly, but trying very hard not to drag this down further with a humanitarian comment that came to mind - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re: PUG Gallery - March 2002 available
DAMN! I'd forgoten that today was the first of the month! Made all the more worse because my birthday is the last day of February. Where does my time go (much more important, where does my mind go)? Christian On Friday 01 March 2002 14:39, A.v.Kirschten wrote: Hello all, The March 2002 PUG is available for your viewing pleasure. Thanks Adelheid - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
