Re: More image theft...
I suppose I could offer Boz a picture of my really ugly and beaten up MX to give a new name to.. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which Spotmatic ?
In a message dated 3/11/2002 7:42:29 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > To me, the whole "meter's always on while the lens cap is off" thing with > the F > would be most annoying. Yeah...but I love my Spotmatic F! This is a downside...especially when you've got a lens on the camera with a lens hood attached. You have to either keep the hood on and the meter on or the lens hood off and the cap on. If I could only just cap the hood...OH NO!! sounds like I'm trying to formulate another modification! Lets see...what material would make a good home made "hood cap" for the SMCT 24mm f3.5? A thin sheet of tin? Chip board? Plastic? Hummm Brendan MacRae - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: super-wide-angle options?
> You might also consider the manual focus Tamron 17mm. Mine is at work so I > cannot confirm the f stop but I think it is 3.5. It requires an Adaptall 2 > mount. When I got mine I asked our professional photographer at work to > check it out and he was impressed with its performance. > > KEH often has a few used ones. At one time prices were around $300 but I > have not checked them in a couple of years. > > George Baumgardner Or, the Tokina 17 f3.5 manual focus. Available new for 229.00. It is the only non-Pentax lens I would replace if lost or stolen (I had one stolen in 95). To me, it is a "poor mans" 15. Very sharp at f8 and very low distortion. Regards, Bob Rapp - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: More image theft...
Mike Ignatiev pointed out: > Actually, I wouldn't say this guy is stealing, since he does keep the > copyright info on the image. Suspect it's legal (though IANAL). Folks argue about whether or not it's _rude_. Pretty easy to embarrass the person who did it if you want 'em to stop though, since they've just handed you control over what appears in that spot on their eBay listing.. Trying to remember whether the legal issue was addressed in the discussion about the image-search-engine-thingie that displayed harvested images ... too sleepy right now to go searching archives. -- Glenn - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #2292 [removable finders]
Don't forget that the Exacta had a removable finder! stan on 3/11/02 9:38, William Robb at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > There have actually been very few 35mm cameras with > interchangable finders. > The entire Nikon F line (F, F2, F3, F4, F5) has had > interchangable finders. The Canon F1 series, which i believe > comprised 3 different models over the years, a few Topcons, and > I think the Minolta XK are the only 35mm SLR cameras other than > the LX to have removable finders. > There may be a few others, but it was never a feature that sold > in great numbers, I expect because of the effect it had on > either the price of the camera, or viewfinder accuracy, these > being closely related criteria. I don't think Olympus OM had an > interchangable viewfinder camera. I had an OM-1 and an OM-2s, > both had fixed prisms > > William Robb > - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: More image theft...
I like this one...BTW, for those interested, eBay does have a policy regarding image theft and unauthorized linkage of your image to another's auction. If Boz complains, eBay should stop this guy from using the link.. But Stan's idea has a lot more merit to it I think. You;d think a camera dealer could at least manage one image of his product! - Original Message - From: "Stan Halpin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 9:59 PM Subject: Re: More image theft... > A direct comment would be to put up a jpeg of text to the effect of > something like: > "The seller in this auction was too lazy or incompetent to take a picture of > the item he is selling. So he linked to one of my pictures without > permission. Would you buy a used camera from this man?" - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MX replacement foam
>Yes, all my local friends in repair (some of them have been doing >cameras for 40+ years) recommend normal cotton line or velvet for it. >But I don't think a foam would be such a problem as it should last at >least 10-20 years, no :) anyway Much depends on the weather of the place you live I guess. Drier is better. regards, Alan Chan _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: More image theft...
Better yet Stan Halpin wrote: > > A direct comment would be to put up a jpeg of text to the effect of > something like: > "The seller in this auction was too lazy or incompetent to take a picture of > the item he is selling. So he linked to one of my pictures without > permission. Would you buy a used camera from this man?" -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Motor Drive A question
>I got a nice working motor drive A at local store > really cheap. My question is what cord is for >the releas socket? can you use nicads or nickel >metals in it? Any rechargable cells are fine with MDA. If there was a delay to wind the film after firing the shutter, that means the little piece of rubber inside was aging badly and need a replacement. The bad news is, Pentax probably don't have any parts. However, you can always custom made one yourself (I did and worked). regards, Alan Chan _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Little Help with Super Program
>2. There's what looks like a little button just below the PC socket on the >left side of lens mount (left side as you look through the viewfinder). >What does it do? Battery check? If not, where is the battery check and how >does it indicate battery condition? It lights up the LCD inside the viewfinder. regards, Alan Chan _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: More image theft...
A direct comment would be to put up a jpeg of text to the effect of something like: "The seller in this auction was too lazy or incompetent to take a picture of the item he is selling. So he linked to one of my pictures without permission. Would you buy a used camera from this man?" stan 3/11/02 21:13, Shel Belinkoff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > LMAO ... I can think of any number of delicious images from porn sites > that might brighten up an otherwise boring eBay search. > > Mark Roberts wrote: >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1338873380 >> >> Ooh. There's an easy way to extract delicious revenge for that! >> > - > Shel Belinkoff > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ > http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: super-wide-angle options?
You might also consider the manual focus Tamron 17mm. Mine is at work so I cannot confirm the f stop but I think it is 3.5. It requires an Adaptall 2 mount. When I got mine I asked our professional photographer at work to check it out and he was impressed with its performance. KEH often has a few used ones. At one time prices were around $300 but I have not checked them in a couple of years. George Baumgardner - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Which Spotmatic ?
Bob Rapp wrote: "The down side of the F is that the meter is always on and can only be switched off by unscrewing the lens." Putting the lens cap on effectively shuts off the meter. If there is a battery drain in my experience it is so small as to be pretty well unnoticeable. I have literally gone for years between battery changes in my all too infrequently used SPF. Regards, /\/\ick... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Rapp Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 10:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Which Spotmatic ? Both would serve you well. The big difference is the F supports open aperture metering and the other stopped down. The down side of the F is that the meter is always on and can only be switched off by unscrewing the lens. Both take mercury batteries and will take hearing aide batteries if the mercuries are unavailable. Check the meters in both. This is best done by dialling through the speeds and matching against the aperture. If the meter does not work, they camera may de deemed unrepairable. However, if you live outside the US, you may be able to get it repaired as the ASA resistor is still available from Pentax. I have had 2 repaired here in Australia and it is worth every cent. Otherwise, be like the legendary "JCO" and use a hand held meter! Regards, Bob Rapp - Original Message - From: "Prasanta Chakraborty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:21 PM Subject: Which Spotmatic ? > Well, after some time I am back to Japan and in my first visit to > the local camera store, I picked up a used SMCT 200/f4. A bit > battered on outside, might be that the lens was opened by the > previous owner for cleaning but with a burgain proce of Yen 3000, > I thought I should give it a try. Now, to test it I need a screw > mount body, I have seen two Spotmatic on the rack one is normal > Spotmatic and the other one is Spotmatic F. What is the > difference > ? Which one should I buy ? > Also how much should I pay for a SP in good shape with the meter > working ? > > Regards, > Prasanta. > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: More image theft...
Rather than porn, I'd put in an image of a Leica M6 and see what that would cause. Len --- > > Ooh. There's an easy way to extract delicious revenge for that! > > -- > Mark Roberts > www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which Spotmatic ?
Since you have an SMC Tak lens that will accomodate open aperture metering, I would buy the Spotmatic F. The F is capable of open aperture metering, the Spotmatic is not. I would pay no more than $125 US for a nice example with chrome body. I've purchased some for as little as $90. Paul Prasanta Chakraborty wrote: > Well, after some time I am back to Japan and in my first visit to > the local camera store, I picked up a used SMCT 200/f4. A bit > battered on outside, might be that the lens was opened by the > previous owner for cleaning but with a burgain proce of Yen 3000, > I thought I should give it a try. Now, to test it I need a screw > mount body, I have seen two Spotmatic on the rack one is normal > Spotmatic and the other one is Spotmatic F. What is the > difference > ? Which one should I buy ? > Also how much should I pay for a SP in good shape with the meter > working ? > > Regards, > Prasanta. > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which Spotmatic ?
The F also has a hot-shoe and a shutter release lock - I can't tell you how many frames I've lost because I had the shutter cocked, then had to put my SP into the camera bag, accidentally tripping the shutter on the way into, out of, or while the body was in the bag. A real PIA (but not enough to stop me from loving my SP's!). To me, the whole "meter's always on while the lens cap is off" thing with the F would be most annoying. Ya just can't walk around with the lens cap on! Might miss a shot that way. But I'd hate to think I was draining the batteries in so doing... But they're both wonderful cams - you'd enjoy either, I'm sure. regards, frank Bob Rapp wrote: > Both would serve you well. The big difference is the F supports open > aperture metering and the other stopped down. > > The down side of the F is that the meter is always on and can only be > switched off by unscrewing the lens. Both take mercury batteries and will > take hearing aide batteries if the mercuries are unavailable. > > Check the meters in both. This is best done by dialling through the speeds > and matching against the aperture. If the meter does not work, they camera > may de deemed unrepairable. However, if you live outside the US, you may be > able to get it repaired as the ASA resistor is still available from Pentax. > I have had 2 repaired here in Australia and it is worth every cent. > > Otherwise, be like the legendary "JCO" and use a hand held meter! > > Regards, > > Bob Rapp > - Original Message - > From: "Prasanta Chakraborty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:21 PM > Subject: Which Spotmatic ? > > > Well, after some time I am back to Japan and in my first visit to > > the local camera store, I picked up a used SMCT 200/f4. A bit > > battered on outside, might be that the lens was opened by the > > previous owner for cleaning but with a burgain proce of Yen 3000, > > I thought I should give it a try. Now, to test it I need a screw > > mount body, I have seen two Spotmatic on the rack one is normal > > Spotmatic and the other one is Spotmatic F. What is the > > difference > > ? Which one should I buy ? > > Also how much should I pay for a SP in good shape with the meter > > working ? > > > > Regards, > > Prasanta. > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX vs MX vs KX (was Re: I want LX!)
It's obviously not something that the camera was designed for. Basically, you're jamming the mechanism. When I need MLU, I use a camera that accommodates it. Paul "Paul F. Stregevsky" wrote: > I read somewhere that this trick is a good way to shorten the life of your > MX. I thought it was on Peter Spiro's site > (http://ca.geocities.com/spirope/PentaxSLR.htm) but I don't find it there. > Boz's site, maybe? > > frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But doesn't the MX have the "trick hidden" MLU similar to the Spotmatic, > by sort of tapping the shutter release (not hard enough to trip the > shutter? I've never tried it > on either bodies, because I've also heard that it may not be the best > thing for the shutter mechanism. > > Paul Franklin Stregevsky > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which Spotmatic ?
Both would serve you well. The big difference is the F supports open aperture metering and the other stopped down. The down side of the F is that the meter is always on and can only be switched off by unscrewing the lens. Both take mercury batteries and will take hearing aide batteries if the mercuries are unavailable. Check the meters in both. This is best done by dialling through the speeds and matching against the aperture. If the meter does not work, they camera may de deemed unrepairable. However, if you live outside the US, you may be able to get it repaired as the ASA resistor is still available from Pentax. I have had 2 repaired here in Australia and it is worth every cent. Otherwise, be like the legendary "JCO" and use a hand held meter! Regards, Bob Rapp - Original Message - From: "Prasanta Chakraborty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:21 PM Subject: Which Spotmatic ? > Well, after some time I am back to Japan and in my first visit to > the local camera store, I picked up a used SMCT 200/f4. A bit > battered on outside, might be that the lens was opened by the > previous owner for cleaning but with a burgain proce of Yen 3000, > I thought I should give it a try. Now, to test it I need a screw > mount body, I have seen two Spotmatic on the rack one is normal > Spotmatic and the other one is Spotmatic F. What is the > difference > ? Which one should I buy ? > Also how much should I pay for a SP in good shape with the meter > working ? > > Regards, > Prasanta. > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: More image theft...
LMAO ... I can think of any number of delicious images from porn sites that might brighten up an otherwise boring eBay search. Mark Roberts wrote: >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1338873380 > > Ooh. There's an easy way to extract delicious revenge for that! > - Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: More image theft...
Steve Knobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Not to beat a dead horse, but this guy is not only stealing your image, >but he's linking directly to it. > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1338873380 Ooh. There's an easy way to extract delicious revenge for that! -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX vs MX vs KX (was Re: I want LX!)
"Paul F. Stregevsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I read somewhere that this trick is a good way to shorten the life of your >MX. I thought it was on Peter Spiro's site >(http://ca.geocities.com/spirope/PentaxSLR.htm) but I don't find it there. >Boz's site, maybe? I think this is an old myth. Using this trick doesn't do anything that tripping the shutter normally doesn't do. It just separates tha actions. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX vs MX vs KX (was Re: I want LX!
Then the LX is a good choice for you. I used the metering system to make some l-o-n-g exposures on night with the TV set as the only light source. It was amazing to observe the camera in action. The set, of course, would produce varying amounts of light output. It was amazing to observe the camera as it kept on "figuring out" the exposure. Naturally, each of the ten or so exposures were of a different duration, yet each frame looked just about identical. Shots like that LA freeway shot have been made for many years. I've seen some of Times Square in NYC - probably as eerie as an empty LA freeway . In the past photographers just used a slow film (there wasn't that much fast film anyway), stopped the lens way down, and did a time exposure. Using the LX on automatic would probably work just as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Have you used the OTF metering much in such a way as > to take advantage of it - such as long exposures in changing light? > > No, not really. I took some shots at dusk in Bodie but they only turned out > OK. Not the LX's fault though, I had the exposure compensation set without > realizing it... > > I just bought a telescope so maybe I'll give that OTF metering a work out > (and here the LX's MLU is essential). I always wanted to try a long DAYLIGHT > exposure with the LX. Have you seen the shot that guy got of one of the LA > freeways with the multiple ND filters that erased the midday traffic from the > roadway?too cool. I'll bet the LX could get that shot! -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: More image theft...
Actually, I wouldn't say this guy is stealing, since he does keep the copyright info on the image. A different question if whether Boz's copyright allows this kind of usage. If not, he should probably complain to ebay (although I am not sure how effective that would be) > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 19:51:41 -0600 > From: Steve Knobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: More image theft... > > Not to beat a dead horse, but this guy is not only stealing your image, > but he's linking directly to it. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1338873380 > > Crazy. > > steve - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: More image theft...
This is by link (not copied), and the copyright notice is retained. I believe this might actually be legal. Regards, Bob... "Let us contemplate our forefathers, and posterity, and resolve to maintain the rights bequeathed to us from the former, for the sake of the latter. The necessity of the times, more than ever, calls for our utmost circumspection, deliberation, fortitude, and perseverance. Let us remember that 'if we suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty, we encourage it, and involve others in our doom.' It is a very serious consideration that millions yet unborn may be the miserable sharers of the event." - Samuel Adams, 1771 From: "Steve Knobbe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Not to beat a dead horse, but this guy is not only stealing your image, > but he's linking directly to it. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1338873380 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Oh, I get it...
I'm not JCO, but I've been using my 300/4 with and without an extension tube. It's the newest version of the old lens. I shot some ducks on a pond last weekend with the short extension tube in place. I was able to get them close to full frame. My PUG entry for this month was shot with the 300/4, handheld with ISO 100 film. Paul Bruce Dayton wrote: > JCO, > > I am thinking about some longer glass for the 67. My current longest > is 165. I would like more reach, but would also like it to be > handholdable or monopodable (new words?). What has been your > experience with the 300? I know there is an old and new version. My > understanding is the new version focuses much closer, but weighs more > and costs lots more. Have you tried using the 300 with an extension > tube to bring the focus closer than 16 feet? > > Thanks, > > Bruce Dayton > > Sunday, March 10, 2002, 9:55:13 PM, you wrote: > > >> You can get some 67 stuff reasonably priced by going used. I believe > >> JCO has done pretty well that way. > >> > >> > >> Bruce Dayton > >> > JCOC> Definately. > JCOC> I bought 67 body, prism, grip, ext. tubes, > JCOC> strap, and 8 lenses 45,55,75,90LS,105,135,200, > JCOC> 300. Total outlay $4000. Everything is is > JCOC> excellent to mint shape. Cost would have been > JCOC> WAY more if I had gone all newBelieve me > JCOC> I have spent alot more on screwmount 35mm, probably > JCOC> $10K in bodies and lenses combined. But then again > JCOC> I have nearly 30 DIFFERENT screwmount lenses and > JCOC> about a dozen bodies. I like having BOTH P67 and > JCOC> 35mm. Different animals for different jobs. Getting > JCOC> truly excellent results from 35mm is much tougher > JCOC> than with the P67, but the challange makes it fun. > JCOC> Pentax Screwmount 35mm and P67 RULES!!! PS, I got > JCOC> about half of the 35mm stuff and ALL of the P67 > JCOC> stuff though ebay. > JCOC> JCO > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: cable length?
Hi Paul ... The length of a mechanical release should have no effect on how it works - at least that's been my experience using thre different lengths. Sometimes a short release is just fine, after all, if you're working close to the camera why use a longer, and perhaps more cumbersome, setup. OTOH, sometimes a very long release is advantageous, and there have been times when the 5-foot remote release cord for the LX and MEII winders has come in quite handy. "Paul F. Stregevsky" wrote: > > Will a 12-inch mechanical cable release react more quickly, or work more > reliably, than a 17-inch release of the same make? What about 17-inch vs. > 30 or 40-inch? > Does anyone find a 12-inch release too limiting compared to 17-inch? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: M35/f2.0 (Re: Re[2]: OT: Oh, I get it...)
I'm very fond of the M35/2.0. It's frequently my choice as a walkaround lens. It's quite sharp, even wide open. I don't know if the LX gallery is still up, but my shot of the homeless guy in Santa Monica was with the 35/2, wide open or maybe just a stop down. Here's another 35/2 shot, although it's at f11: http://www.portfolios.com/zoom.wga?User_number=stenquist&imagecount=19 T Rittenhouse wrote: > What a question. How was it? I don't know. > > No one said the 16x24 full frame b&w prints on the wall in my living room > back then weren't sharp, but then unlike people on the list no one put their > nose up against them to see if they were "really" sharp. > > I liked the M35.2.0. On the MX it was perfect for my type of shooting, hand > held PJ style stuff mostly. I am not the fanatic that many on the list seem > to be, if I needed better quality I used a Rollei, or a Super Technika both > of which got scared if they weren't on a tripod. > > Ciao, > Graywolf > http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto > > > - Original Message - > From: Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 2:20 PM > Subject: Re: Re[2]: OT: Oh, I get it... > > > On Monday, March 11, 2002, at 12:37 PM, T Rittenhouse wrote: > > > > > M 35/2.0? Yep! Was my most used lens back in the old days. > > > > How was it? > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX vs MX vs KX (was Re: I want LX!)
Paul writes: >.seriously consider the KX. Its the only Pentax >K mount that lets you combine MLU with the timer. And its the only one that >closes down the lens aperture as MLU is selected Both the KX and K2 let you combine mirror up with timer. The LX also closes down the aperture when the mirror is locked up. The sealed construction of the LX is a big plus in the rainy climate I'm in. Mark Rofini Oregon - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: More image theft...
Doh, that was only meant for Boz. steve Steve Knobbe wrote: > > Not to beat a dead horse, but this guy is not only stealing your image, > but he's linking directly to it. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1338873380 > > Crazy. > > steve - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which Spotmatic ?
The Spotmatics are all great cameras. Some do more than others, see: http://spotmatic.web-page.net/ Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "Prasanta Chakraborty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 5:21 PM Subject: Which Spotmatic ? > Well, after some time I am back to Japan and in my first visit to > the local camera store, I picked up a used SMCT 200/f4. A bit > battered on outside, might be that the lens was opened by the > previous owner for cleaning but with a burgain proce of Yen 3000, > I thought I should give it a try. Now, to test it I need a screw > mount body, I have seen two Spotmatic on the rack one is normal > Spotmatic and the other one is Spotmatic F. What is the > difference > ? Which one should I buy ? > Also how much should I pay for a SP in good shape with the meter > working ? > > Regards, > Prasanta. > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
A good Pentax weekend.
Hi, After not shooting with my pentax for a few weeks, i had a good Pentax weekend :) Firstly i picked up an MeSuper for $30au ($16us or so) works wonderfully, i had forgotted how good the MeSuper is, has a really nice bright viewfinder and feels very sturdy. The size is also great. Also i had to take a few quick snaps of the a motor bike, so i put my 28-70/4 on my MZ-S, i really havent used this lense much, my partner has mostly used it. I was really surprised at how the sharp it was, if i hadent of known it was a zoom, i probaly would have thought it was a prime. Regards, Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 APO
I bought the Sigma last fall and have been very satisfied with it. Build quality and optical quality are excellent - its one of my most used lenses and definately my most used non-SMC lens. I've bought a few things from Camera World of Oregon and they seem to be a reputable outfit - but they sometimes are not as inexpensive as B&H or Adorama. I don't know that they have any relationship with KEH. At 09:05 PM 3/10/02 -0500, you wrote: >Hi All, > >First question: >Does anyone have experience of the >Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 APO EX ? >(or the older 82mm filter size 70-210) > >Second question: >Cameraworld of Oregon - good, bad, indifferent? What's their relationship >with KEH? > >I have a pentax 80-320 already, but am looking for something a little >faster for the dog agility trials I go to. Unfortunately, I don't have an >unlimited budget! > >tia >Wendy > >--- >Wendy Beard >Ottawa, Canada >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >home page http://www.beard-redfern.com >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX vs MX vs KX (was Re: I want LX!
> The extra expense isn't worth it if you've no need for the extra features. I agree... No one will find a "good" LX for $250, I'll grant you that. But, I have seen bodies go in the $300's, that's not a lot for an LX. Yes, I use most of the features of the LX. In fact, I never really used AE before I got the LX...now I use it quite often. I use the sports finder frequently as well. I only have one accessory screen (the new one with grid lines)...and I've used that one already for shooting buildings. On the downside, the accessories are very expensive. There's no getting around that. >Have you used the OTF metering much in such a way as to take advantage of it - such as long exposures in changing light? No, not really. I took some shots at dusk in Bodie but they only turned out OK. Not the LX's fault though, I had the exposure compensation set without realizing it... I just bought a telescope so maybe I'll give that OTF metering a work out (and here the LX's MLU is essential). I always wanted to try a long DAYLIGHT exposure with the LX. Have you seen the shot that guy got of one of the LA freeways with the multiple ND filters that erased the midday traffic from the roadway?too cool. I'll bet the LX could get that shot! Brendan MacRae - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which have more utility ... 35mm MF or AF Macros lenses
As you know now, there are 100-ish macros that will got to 1:1. As for the AF vs MF question - you get trap focus with the Manual Focus lenses, Auto Focus (obviously) with the AF lenses. All things being equal I'd probably lean towards the AF lens. One short coming of macros is that while you gain the ability to focus close, you loose focusing sensitivity for mid range and further subjects. For example, the A* 200mm f4 macro takes you from infinity to 2 meters with a 30 - 40 degree twist of the focusing ring, white the A* 200mm f2.8 requires more than 200 degrees of turning to reach the same distance. So if you are manually focusing on a subject 5 meters away, you have a lot more control with a non-macro lens. My guess is that this wouldn't be an issue at all with an AF lens. - MCC BTW - the difference between Macro and Non-Macro focusing lenses is just one of the things I learned from Valentin Donisa when he was active on this list. At 08:15 PM 3/9/02 -0600, you wrote: >I have manual focus Pentax gear. I've been using my A-series 50mm >F/2.0 with extension tubes and/or a reversing ring for the "macro" >photography that I do. I've been considering a dedicated macro lens, >and have a question about the MF versus AF variants. - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX vs MX vs KX (was Re: I want LX!)
I read somewhere that this trick is a good way to shorten the life of your MX. I thought it was on Peter Spiro's site (http://ca.geocities.com/spirope/PentaxSLR.htm) but I don't find it there. Boz's site, maybe? frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: But doesn't the MX have the "trick hidden" MLU similar to the Spotmatic, by sort of tapping the shutter release (not hard enough to trip the shutter? I've never tried it on either bodies, because I've also heard that it may not be the best thing for the shutter mechanism. Paul Franklin Stregevsky - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
More image theft...
Not to beat a dead horse, but this guy is not only stealing your image, but he's linking directly to it. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1338873380 Crazy. steve - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Motor Drive A question
I got a nice working motor drive A at local store really cheap. My question is what cord is for the releas socket? can you use nicads or nickel metals in it? thanks, steve --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Little Help with Super Program
> The little display on the top deck just below the mode > switch/shutter release. What does it display, other than P for > program mode and the shutter speed? There seems to be a little > rectangular bar in the upper right hand corner of the display, > what does this indicate? > The little bar indicates that there is power for the meter etc. Er, no - it's to show that the shutter is cocked, ready to fire. Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX vs MX vs KX (was Re: I want LX!)
Fred, I can't recommend the Super Program for astrophotography; too much vibration. Well, I guess for a 30-second exposure it wouldn't matter, but watch out for those 1/30 second exposures. All this time that I felt that I was a lousy available-light candid shooter, I now realize was partly the fault of the vibration of the Super Program. Paul Franklin Stregevsky - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 85 mm 2 vs 77mm 1.8
>$240 for an 85/2M is quite reasonable these days. In the past year the >price has spiraled to the $300 mark, not just on EBay Madness but even >from dealers. Paul Franklin Stregevsky - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX vs MX vs KX (was Re: I want LX!)
I've been a KX owner for only about a month, but I enjoy using it immensely. Its ISO dial goes to 6400. Its metering uses the classic match needle, if you prefer that kind of thing. It fits the hands nicely. If you're an MLU enthusiast, seriously consider the KX. Its the only Pentax K mount that lets you combine MLU with the timer. And its the only one that closes down the lens aperture as MLU is selected. Yet even without MLU, vibration commendably low. The batteries are said to last for years. Some feel that it fits the hands more nicely than the MX. Most units don't have the split rangefinder patch. That's one reason I bought mine; the patch on my Super Program would dim out too often when using my 400/5.6 PKA, especially with the 1.4X-L teleconverter. But Boz's site suggests that some KXs were made with the split RF. You probably must ask. I will say that the KX's viewfinder, while large (0.87X), is not gigantic like that of the MX (0.95 or 0.97X). And of course, it screen can't be replaced with a great variety of alternative screens, as can the screens of the LX or MX. Some have said that the MX's LEDs tend to wash out in bright sunlight, but they would have an edge in the dark. Also, one PDMLer for whom the KX is his favorite body has written to me that in his experience, the aperture window is out of alignment or not working in about half the used KXs he's handled. I don't know how often this occurs on the MX or LX. If you decide you want a black KX that can take a motor drive, for $200, write to me for the dealer's URL (with photo). Paul Franklin Stregevsky - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax prices
I suspect that few mfrs. offer many products at a loss at the incremental unit production cost level. However, IMHO it is likely that in some instances they do not recover development costs on some "pro" models. Thus any major increase in volume for whatever reason is actually a benefit not a problem, even though over all a program may not by itself be profitable. Otis Bruce Rubenstein wrote: > I sincerely doubt that Canon and Nikon lose money on their pro bodies. > Individuals (pros and amateurs) buy retail and not from the company's national > distributor. A place like B&H doesn't have a two tier pro/am price list. If > they were losing money on every body they could have a real disaster with a > sales hit. (When the F100 came out it was selling at 10,000 bodies a month.) > Now, when a buyer like a major newspaper does a big buy they probably get a > special package price. > It's always cost money to make money. > > --- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Of course, it would be a money-loser in the short-term. Indeed, the "pro" > > line in > > and of itself would be a money-loser in the long-term as well. But, the > > benefits > > across the entire product line would be huge. > > > > But as you said, it's not enough to simply produce the product. You gotta > > get it > > in the hands of the PJ's, and that won't be easy... > Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Which Spotmatic ?
Well, after some time I am back to Japan and in my first visit to the local camera store, I picked up a used SMCT 200/f4. A bit battered on outside, might be that the lens was opened by the previous owner for cleaning but with a burgain proce of Yen 3000, I thought I should give it a try. Now, to test it I need a screw mount body, I have seen two Spotmatic on the rack one is normal Spotmatic and the other one is Spotmatic F. What is the difference ? Which one should I buy ? Also how much should I pay for a SP in good shape with the meter working ? Regards, Prasanta. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
super-wide-angle options?
Get the Zenitar Mir-47K, a 20/2.5. It's a genuine autoaperture K-mount, and now that they can routinely be found for $100 or less on EBay, it's an easy choice. I have one, and while I prefer my Carl Zeiss Jena 20/2.8K for contrast, the Zenitar is no slouch. If you don't like it, you can always sell it without losing your shirt. The lens cap tends to fall off, but you can buy a better-fitting Schneider for about $12. Paul Franklin Stregevsky 13 Selby Court Poolesville, Maryland 20837-2410 [EMAIL PROTECTED] H (301) 349-5243 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
cable length?
Will a 12-inch mechanical cable release react more quickly, or work more reliably, than a 17-inch release of the same make? What about 17-inch vs. 30 or 40-inch? Does anyone find a 12-inch release too limiting compared to 17-inch? Paul Franklin Stregevsky 13 Selby Court Poolesville, Maryland 20837-2410 [EMAIL PROTECTED] H (301) 349-5243 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: AF speed
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:49:10 -0600, Paris, Leonard wrote: > [...] I don't use the drive in rapid fire mode, either, though I > see times when I might someday. [...] One of the few places I use multi-frame drive mode is when I'm shooting a race and one or more cars get "out of shape" or off the course in the grass, gravel, etc. In those situations (1) I just like the looks of a sequence of frames next to each other that are a fraction of a second apart, and (2) unexpected stuff often happens then. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: super-wide-angle options?
Thanks all for the information. I have an SMC-FA* 24mm F2.0, but I'm finding that I want to go wider for interior shots and certain landscape compositions. Sounds like flare resistance is a pretty big deal with these lenses. Can anyone out there compare the flare characteristics of the FA 20-35 zoom and the Pentax 20mm prime options (M F4, A F2.8, FA F2.8)? --Mark - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Flash AF500 FTZ technical help
Well first of all you'll have to move the flash off camera on a cold hot shoe, it will always revert back to TTL when connected to the camera unless your in "B" . The AF500FTZ works well in slave mode and the manual formula is F ( F stop on lens ) = GN @ iso ( flash guide # at zoom setting in meters or feet at films rated iso ) /D ( distance of subject in meters or feet ). This is for direct flash only so for example when the AF500 is set to 28mm zoom it has a Gn of 32m if the subject is 3m away you can manually set it to fire 1:1 power and you will need to set F = 32/3 or F11 aprox. --- Andy Vu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear list, > Ive been using this flash under TTL and > it works fine with > my pz-1p. Now I would like to learn how to use it > manual instead of TTL, > can someone point me where I can learn the basic > manual on AF500 flash > or even better give me a brief description how to > shot manual flash. > > Best regards, > Andy > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > __ Find, Connect, Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX vs MX vs KX (was Re: I want LX!)
Hi, As I've mentioned here before, I absolutely love my "new" MX. But you want MLU (which I really don't care about). But doesn't the MX have the "trick hidden" MLU similar to the Spotmatic, by sort of tapping the shutter release (not hard enough to trip the shutter? I've never tried it on either bodies, because I've also heard that it may not be the best thing for the shutter mechanism. Anyone do this on a regular (or even occasional) basis have any comment? Glen, I'm not trying to get you to change your mind, it really does sound like the KX, with a "real" MLU is the way for you to go, I'm just curious. -frank gfen wrote: > Thanks all, at this point it appears people are echoing what I already > thought, the KX is the way to go for me. > > Admittedly, I'll lose aperature priority which is pretty much what I > always use, but I can accept this. > -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax prices
Hi, Bruce, Absolutely! I didn't mean that just by producing a "pro" body, the PJ's will come running, and all will be well. That's why I specifically didn't define what a "pro" body is. As we've seen from many prior threads, there's no one definition. My simple definintion, for the purposes of this discussion, is: A body/system that's commonly used by photojournalists. That's why, as you mentioned, the Contax system doesn't meet that definition. Right now, among 35mm slr's, there are two systems that fit the criteria: The N F5 and the C EOS. As we all know, when Pentax came out with the LX, it blew the competition out of the water, technically, but didn't catch on in a big way among PJ's. Hey, it won't be easy for Pentax or anyone else to knock off or join the present two, but it is possible. After all, N had the position all to itself until C came out with the EOS. Of course, it would be a money-loser in the short-term. Indeed, the "pro" line in and of itself would be a money-loser in the long-term as well. But, the benefits across the entire product line would be huge. But as you said, it's not enough to simply produce the product. You gotta get it in the hands of the PJ's, and that won't be easy... regards, frank Bruce Rubenstein wrote: > A "pro" body, in and of itself, won't do much good for image and increased > sales > A highend "image" body, that's not widely used by pros, will be mostly noticed > by people already using that camera brand. It won't get you many new customers. > To the general public, all you need to look like a pro is a SLR, a big lens and > flash and a camera bag. I am sure that there are people with the means who > decide to get a camera, want the "best" and buy a $3,000 Nikon system with > little idea of how to use it well. I'm sure Pentax would like to sell to that > customer too: sales are sales. It takes a lot of time and money to establish > that kind of reputation. -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: I want LX!
WHAT?!? You ~touched~ my MX?? Did I say you could? Must've been when I wasn't looking. Oh well, you let me touch (even look through) your 67 (which was a pleasure, BTW, although I know it was only a ruse to get me to covet one, and join the cult - I mean Brotherhood). regards, frank ps: seriously, glad you enjoyed it! Aaron Reynolds wrote: > I briefly played with Frank's MX at the PDML Toronto meet. It was > really quite nice, felt good in the hands, and the motor drive was much > more substantial than the winder ME II I have for my ME Super. I'd > probably be really tempted if I saw one for sale at a good price. > Still, I really love the meter in my LX, and I've come to trust it more > than any other TTL meter I've ever used. > -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Little Help with Super Program
- Original Message - From: Christopher Lillja To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:37 AM Subject: Little Help with Super Program I just got a nice Super Program! Looks great and now I'll be able to leave the screw mount adapter in my ME... Since it's one of the few Pentaxes for which there is no manual available for free on the Pentax website, could one of you folks help me with a couple of quick questions? 1. The little display on the top deck just below the mode switch/shutter release. What does it display, other than P for program mode and the shutter speed? There seems to be a little rectangular bar in the upper right hand corner of the display, what does this indicate? The little bar indicates that there is power for the meter etc. 2. There's what looks like a little button just below the PC socket on the left side of lens mount (left side as you look through the viewfinder). What does it do? Battery check? If not, where is the battery check and how does it indicate battery condition? It illuminates the finder in low light. There is no battery check that I'm aware of other than a series of little square zeroes that flicker in the viewfinder when battery power starts to get low. Hope this helps. 3. Anything else that might not be obvious to someone who's only used a K1000, MZ5, and an ME? Please respond directly as I am in "digest mode" and I'd like to burn some film in this puppy right now! Many thanks! Chris L. School Publications Guy - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax A* 300 2.8
> BTW, does your 300 have the quick-focus lock, i.e., the extra > knurled knob at about 1 p.m. as you look down the barrel? You can > use this to "remember" a particular focus; once you do this, > you'll feel the focus ring click into place when you reach your > preselected setting. Sometimes this is a handy feature. Other > than that, I'm not sure there's much need to RTFM. I think all four of the big white/greenish A* 300/2.8, 400/2.8, 600/5.6, and 1200/8 lenses have that feature. (Pentax refers to it as "focus preset".) It ~is~ a nice feature, too. Speaking of the recent "white vs greenish" discussion about these lenses, based on the results that have been reported so far, I'm gonna predict that Peter's new 300/2.8 is white (or maybe off-white). (The results so far seem to suggest that the 300/2.8 is likely to have a white barrel, while the 400/2.8 and the 600/5.6 have a better chance of having a very light green colored one.) If I recall correctly, I think you said that your 400/2.8, Stephen, was off-white, and probably not greenish, right? Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Flash AF500 FTZ technical help
Dear list, Ive been using this flash under TTL and it works fine with my pz-1p. Now I would like to learn how to use it manual instead of TTL, can someone point me where I can learn the basic manual on AF500 flash or even better give me a brief description how to shot manual flash. Best regards, Andy - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which have more utility ... 35mm MF or AF Macros lenses
"Bolo" wrote: >The MF macro lenses that I've looked at all go down to 1:2. After >that you need extension tubes for 1:1. That is well and fine. However, >I've noticed that almost all of the AF macro lenses that I've looked >at tend to go to 1:1 ... without extension tubes. Presumbably this >is because the rack&pinion and/or IF mechanisms allow a greater >a bit more freedom in lens design than the helicoid does. I've heard that internal focusing lens designs that go to macro distances do so by changing focal length. It would not suprise me to find that the autofocus macros that go to 1:1 do exactly this. Doing so subtly affects the perspective that you get on film and, perhaps more importantly, affects the _background_ you get with the macro shot (unless you shoot all macros with flash). It is pretty much up to you to decide if that matters to you, however, for a first macro lens, I don't think I'd worry about it myself. >I've not settled upon a focal length for a macro lens; my first >guess is 100 mm, since I already have a 50mm, and I'd like some >additional stand-off than I have now. I've looked idly at macro >lenses. Comments on this list seem to indicate that the FA 200mm >macro is even a *better* lens than the awesomely rated A* 200mm >macro, so quality doesn't seem to be an issue with the AF macros. 100mm or thereabounts would be my first recommendation. Not too expensive but with enough working distance to open up a world of macro photography to you that a 50mm might be hard pressed to achieve. Also, that range will leave some background detail without going to the extremes of providing too much distracting detail or completely devoid of detail. The 200mm macro is a different beast and you'll get very different backgrounds -- wanna see some, take a look through Shaw's Closeups In Nature book. Most of the shots with no background detail other than indiscinct blobs of color were done with a 200mm macro. >Since the AF lenses goto 1:1 without a extension tube, is there >something which you lose with a 1:1 AF macro lens compared to a >traditional MF Macro lens? Besides requring a lot of extension >tubes to get to 1:1 with the longer MF macro lenses? Um.. assuming you use the lens in AF mode for macro shots, you loose the ability to compose the part of the subject you want in focus on anywhere other than directly under the sensor. Using AF also may cause you to sacrifice some of the scant DOF you have -- you can't focus slightly past a subject to add a little more detail to the background while not loosing too much detail on the subject. With a AF lens, you also give up the ability to use trap focus. "Mark Erickson" wrote: >In terms of utility, AF lenses enable autofocus, >and MF lenses do not. For carefully-composed >images, you may not miss the AF. If you're out >in the fields chasing insects, AF may enable you >to get shots that you would otherwise miss. AF probably won't enable you to shoot insects. I generally rely on a MF lens and trap focus mode. I hand-hold a lot of my insect shots and you almost can't tell (they are still a darn sight sharper than a lot of what I see in publications). Yes, with a 100mm macro you may not be able to stalk hoverflies (seem to need a 200mm for that), but everything else will be within your grasp, including the ever popular dragonflies and butterflies. >In terms of magnification, here's a quick table: > SMC-A* 200mm F4.0 Macro: 1.0x I thought mine only when to 1:2 mag. Oh well, guess I'll have to take a look at it when I get home tonight. >I bought my A* 200 a couple of years ago from B&H for $950. >The FA* 200mm F4 Macro goes for $1350 at B&H. That's >quite a price hike! The A 200mm f/4 macro I have has inteference problems with the Pz-1p body -- the tripod mount bumps into the RTF housing when mounting (I can hear y'all out there saying "aw" :-). Not a major problem, but if the FA version corrects this without compromising on the optics, then it is probably the better option to consider. I'd consider trading up, but it really isn't much of a problem and besides, I like that lens too much to part with it. hope that helps, patbob ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Lx metering question.
Hi Frantisek! Thanks again for looking into it. I can't find it on the "mir"-site either. Well, LX's just seem to be different. I have a more or less new one and it never shows this "LED-flickering", besides when it's pointed at TV- or computerscreens. So it might depend on the overall light conditions or some other spooky things. BTW, do you happen to know any Smekals where you live? I think my surname has it's roots somewhere in this region of Europe. Good night! Peter >Sunday, March 10, 2002, 10:45:38 AM, Peter wrote: >PS> Hi Frantisek, > >PS> sorry to bother you once again. I also have downloaded this manual. >Maybe I >PS> am blind, but I cannot find any reference to that. Could you please let me >PS> know on which page it is. > >PS> I also noted a slight difference in your answers. Is it only one LED or >PS> both LEDs that flicker? > >Perhaps I imagined reading it in the manual ;-) Probably it was on the >"mir" site. > >I just checked the behaviour and both leds flicker, although with >sometimes different frequency of the change. So I guess it the meter >output circuit differentiates between more than just 1/2 stop, but the >practical readable output is still just 1/2 stop, if I made myself >understandable :) > >Good light, > Frantisek Vlcek >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . Peter Smekal Uppsala, Sweden [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: LX vs MX vs KX
It seems a process of elimination. If you want/need the features of the LX, get it. esp, advanced metering ( OTF & TTL flash ) & advanced construction ( seals and finders ) If you need MLU, but none else of the LX get the KX If you need it small and basic, get the MX If the MX/LX bodies are too small, evaluate a) MX with winder b) LX with winder else get the KX The KX is a nice, practical body. I got one in the mid 80s for $10 at a pawn shop. Meter wasn't working. Just had to work with the switch & clean the terminals & all was well. Just so heavy. But still nice. Collin -- --- "Get over it." Dr. Laura -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax Med. format
David Spaulding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, I tried remounting it. There just seems to be a little play between the > grip and the lugs on the camera. Does the screw/button on the base of the > grip make it tighter? The grip is on good...I wonder if its just me. > When I mount the grip I try to hold it as firmly as I can pressed to the body while screwing the button on the base. Just a quick note: one of my 645 (both used) came with a loosen mount which had to get thighten (by the assistance, because I couldn't reach the upper screws). Could it be that the grip lugs on your 645 are a bit loose (or is the grip plate where the lugs attach loose)? Gianfranco = Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax Med. format
On Monday, March 11, 2002, at 03:32 PM, David Spaulding wrote: > Also, do you think there will ever be a digital back > for the Pentax...it took a while to come out with a Polaroid back. Digital backs for the Pentax 645 are not currently made (AFAIK) by any of the third-party digital back suppliers. Hopefully, the new electrical contacts on the 645nII are a sign of a coming digital back from Pentax themselves. This wouldn't be much use to those with anything older than this year's model, however. I imagine that if one were spending the $10,000 it costs for, say, and EyeLike system, they'd gladly modify a back to fit Pentax 645, unless the design is such that Pentax's insert-only system does not allow their gear to fit into it. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re:LX is dressed up to go out thanks to
>Any excuse to use power tools, even if I should do it by hand is enough >for me. > >Tim Allen of Home Improvement is my hero. > >More Power! Brendan, we are thinking along the same lines. As the man said: Had a rickety old vacuum cleaner, needed a beter engine - put a 357 Chevy in her, and wow, that thing'll suck the butt right outa the cat... (Hey - I've got cats - it's only a joke - don't take it to heart) I really want a Dremmel attachment for my LX... Cotts ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax A* 300 2.8
Jeff Post wrote: > Is the Pentax smc 49mm dropin skylight removable, or do I just screw my > filters on to this? If it's like the 400/2.8, the skylight unscrews from the filter holder, which has internal threads. You then can attach any other one you wish to use. (Mine didn't come with a filter, so I bought a B+W, only to find it too thick to fit in the slot. The slim version works fine.) > Did the 112mm Pentax PF SMC filter normally come with the lens? > What is the PF filter? "Protective Front," near as I can tell. I didn't get one. The 400 takes a 150mm PF, for which B&H wanted ~US$650. Needless to say, I still don't have one. BTW, does your 300 have the quick-focus lock, i.e., the extra knurled knob at about 1 p.m. as you look down the barrel? You can use this to "remember" a particular focus; once you do this, you'll feel the focus ring click into place when you reach your preselected setting. Sometimes this is a handy feature. Other than that, I'm not sure there's much need to RTFM. Enjoy! Stephen - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX vs MX vs KX
Actually, the exact same size, just heavier. William in Utah. Peter Alling wrote: > > The M50/1.7 is not noticeably bigger than the M50/2.0 I'd go with the former. > > At 09:03 AM 3/11/2002 -0800, you wrote: > >And an MX with a K35/3.5 or an M50/2.0 *is* pretty much a pocket-sized > >kit . > > > >Mark Roberts wrote: > > > > > An MX with a 43/1.9 is a gerat almost-pocket-sized kit. > > > >-- > >Shel Belinkoff > >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ > >http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html > >- > >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax Manuals
> It appears that Pentax has added a lot of new manuals today to > their site. Thanks for the "heads up", Jeff. Pentax has put "new" labels next to the new manuals, too, which is a nice touch. Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 85 mm 2 vs 77mm 1.8
It seems like a good price, how good is the condition, one I was watching on e-bay sold for a bit less recently and in the pictures looked like mint. The 77 limited however would cost a lot more. I can't comment on the 77's qualities but it has an excellent reputation. At 07:45 PM 3/11/2002 +0100, you wrote: >Maybe this is one of my stupid questions again, but anyhow. >I read some nice words about the M 85/2 lense lately. And I need a portrait >lense. Now I have the opportunity to by a M 85/2 in good condition for >about 240 USD. Is that a reasonable price? And above all: would it be >better to wait and save the money for the 77mm 1.8 Limited? > >Peter Smekal >Uppsala, Sweden >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax Med. format
> Hi Dave, > > On my two 645 the grips are rather firm, but I usually mount > them very tight when I remove them from the bodies (quite common > when packing the bodies in a bag or backpack - it's amazing how > much room you gain when the body is gripless...). Have you tried > to remove the grip and then mount it back on the body? > > Gianfranco > Thanks. Yes, I tried remounting it. There just seems to be a little play between the grip and the lugs on the camera. Does the screw/button on the base of the grip make it tighter? The grip is on good...I wonder if its just me. Dave -- David Spaulding Photographer http://d.spaulding.tripod.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Silly Photo.net thread
Do a search on Pentax on their site. I turned up at least a dozen images taken with Pentax equipment. At 02:59 PM 3/11/2002 -0500, you wrote: >I've visited the website many times and done a lot of poking around -- and >missed them. That's why I wondered if anyone could provide more specifics. > >Speaking of National Geographic: The "Out There" programme with the Klums >aired this weekend. Got a good look at his F5 and her M6. If either used a >Pentax on this excursion, the viewers weren't shown it. > >In a message dated Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:36:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, >Peter Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Here's their web site. Just poke around. > > > > http://www.nationalgeographic.com/ > > > > > > At 09:57 AM 3/10/2002 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >In a message dated Sun, 10 Mar 2002 5:56:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, > Pål > > >Audun Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > Bruce wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >It reaffirms that Pentax MF gear is used by professionals. There was > > > never any > > > > >issue there. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is both Pentax MF and Pentax 35mm gear. Otherwise you can take a > > > look at > > > > National Geographic site and find wildlife images shot with Pentax 35mm > > > > gear. > > > > > >As a point of interest, where? >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: OT: Oh, I get it...
I have on and I'd have to be 'simple'. At 08:07 AM 3/11/2002 -0500, you wrote: >On Monday, March 11, 2002, at 02:13 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote: >> >>I can say that I am re-evaluating my assortment of lenses for the >>35mm. Previously I had been trying to build up the highest optical >>quality and full range that I could find - regardless of cost. Now >>I'm thinking of small and lightweight as the 67 covers high quality >>much better. > >My 35mm kit is oriented around two things -- lenses that are significantly >faster than what I have in 67 (there's nothing slower than f2.8 in my 35mm >kit now), and size. I'm semi-actively seeking an M series 50mm f1.4 in >good shape to replace the one that, uh, had an unfortunate accident a >while ago. Was there an M series 35mm f2.0? I'd be up for one of those, too. > >Actually, if anyone has either of those and wants to trade for a Pentax >2X-S in great shape (but no caps or box) or the dreaded M 28mm f2.8, drop >me a line. > >-Aaron >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX vs MX vs KX
The M50/1.7 is not noticeably bigger than the M50/2.0 I'd go with the former. At 09:03 AM 3/11/2002 -0800, you wrote: >And an MX with a K35/3.5 or an M50/2.0 *is* pretty much a pocket-sized >kit . > >Mark Roberts wrote: > > > An MX with a 43/1.9 is a gerat almost-pocket-sized kit. > >-- >Shel Belinkoff >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ >http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax A* 300 2.8
Jeff: > Well, my new toy arrived today here at work. Congratulations. Makes for a nice workday for a change, eh? > Since it did not come with a manual I have a couple of questions I > hope someone can answer. I maybe can answer a little for your lens only because I have the manual for the A* 300/2.8, 400/2.8, 600/5.6, and 1200/8 lenses (one manual for all of 'em). (I have the 600/5.6.) > Is the Pentax smc 49mm dropin skylight removable, or do I just > screw my filters on to this? The 49mm filter is removable, but should be replaced with another filter. (~One~ filter should always be in place.) > Did the 112mm Pentax PF SMC filter normally come with the lens? No, as far as I know. It was an accessory only, I believe. > What is the PF filter? I guess "PF" stands for "protection filter". I guess that it's essentially a clear UV filter. Pentax 112mm PF filters are a bit expensive, but there are a few Tamron MC 112mm UV filters around, and they make a pretty good substitute. (That's what I use, primarily for protection, although I will remove the filter when shooting conditions permit.) > Does anyone know where I can find an online or PDF version of the > manual? I am not aware of any. I have just my hard copy to refer to. > As for the condition of the lens, there is a small black smudge on > the rubber ring of the hood and a scratch in front of the tripod > screw. It is a really sweet lens. Sounds good. Enjoy! Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re Pentax A* 300 2.8
Never mind. Found the manual on Pentax's site. I could have sworn this wasn't there a week ago when I was looking. Anyway, it appears to have a Pentax SMC 49mm skylight stuck on the removable filter ring. Any tips for removing it? Jeff >Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:19:43 -0500 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: Jeff Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Pentax A* 300 2.8 > >Well, my new toy arrived today here at work. Since it did not come with >a manual I have a couple of questions I hope someone can answer. >Is the Pentax smc 49mm dropin skylight removable, or do I just screw my >filters on to this? Did the 112mm Pentax PF SMC filter normally come with >the lens? What is the PF filter? >Does anyone know where I can find an online or PDF version of the manual? > >As for the condition of the lens, there is a small black smudge on the >rubber ring of the hood and a scratch in front of the tripod screw. It is >a really sweet lens. > > Jeff - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX vs MX vs KX (was Re: I want LX!)
>that's more than "a little more". Shel, Of course, you're right...in most cases. But then, if you look around enough you can score a deal. I bought mine for only a decent price...certainly no bargain, and I'm not rich. I just think the extra expense so worth it that it outweighs the prospect of say, not eating for a while. ;-) Brendan MacRae - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Pentax Manuals
It appears that Pentax has added a lot of new manuals today to their site. Jeff http://www.pentax.com/docstore/index.cfm?show=6 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: LX vs MX vs KX
The MX viewfinder is actually a bit better than the KX and it has interchangeable screens that are mostly compatible with the LX screens. At 12:24 PM 3/11/2002 -0500, you wrote: >On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Mark Roberts wrote: > > Well, neither the KX nor the MX has automatic exposure or any kind of TTL > > flash capability. They both have cloth focal plane shutters that are > limited > > to 1/1000 sec as their fastest speed. The KX can't take a winder or motor > > drive (unless you can find the rare and pricey motor drive version). The > > MX has an optional winder (2 fps) and a motor drive (5 fps) if you can find > >These are, for the most part, easily dispensed with. I don't mind winding >by hand, and while I always end up with 400 speed film, and thus 1/1000 >would be a bit confining, it just propels me to use slower film. > > > them. The MX doesn't have mirror lock-up (although you cantrick it into > > doing so with a little practice). > >This is why I was leaning towards the KX, since none of the other >reasonably priced ZX bodies contain this feature. :) I also figured that >the viewfinder would be much nicer on one of the older bodies, verus the >new. > >The other main concern with this is in regards to just how they use their >batteries. Does these cameras need batteries to operate anything other >than the light meter? > > >-- >http://www.infotainment.org > "The destructive character is cheerful." - Walter Benjamin >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re:LX is dressed up to go out thanks to
>Who you calling 'willing' LOL... Any excuse to use power tools, even if I should do it by hand is enough for me. Tim Allen of Home Improvement is my hero. More Power! Brendan MacRae - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax prices
They also used to give more freebie's to retailers, (that may have changed in the last 20 years but I doubt it). At 12:34 PM 3/11/2002 -0500, you wrote: >The way Nikon and Canon got to be recognized is by giving equipment away to >the wire services and major news media. Then you see their "pros" using the >equipment and say. "Wow, look all the pros are using Nikon and Canon, they >must be the best". > >Information source: a former Nikon Rep who serviced the Washington, DC area >doing just that. > >Ciao, >Graywolf >http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto > > > >- Original Message - >From: Bruce Rubenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 9:24 AM >Subject: Re: Pentax prices > > > > A "pro" body, in and of itself, won't do much good for image and increased > > sales. Witness the Maxxum 9, which hasn't changed the perception of >Minolta as > > being a maker of mass market/amature cameras. Contax certainly makes >cameras > > that some pros use, but that hasn't given them widespread name recognition > > among non-enthusasists. The way that Nikon and Canon have gotten pros to >use > > their equipment is by making a suitable product and by supporting pros. >This > > takes a solid product, an extensive product line (lenses), good repair > > facilities and the budget for the maker to pay for it. Even when Canon >game out > > with their far advanced AF they had to spend a small fortune, up front, to >get > > pros to switch. It's tough to get a sizeable portion of the 35mm pro >market > > (Minolta gave up on it). A company may be able to sell a lot more non-pro, > > amature bodies, because they have the right name on it, but that's just >cashing > > in on your investment. Pentax persued the 35mm pro market the same way >they did > > the MF market by making a good product (LX) and letting it sell itself: >doesn't > > work in the 35mm market. > > A highend "image" body, that's not widely used by pros, will be mostly >noticed > > by people already using that camera brand. It won't get you many new >customers. > > To the general public, all you need to look like a pro is a SLR, a big >lens and > > flash and a camera bag. I am sure that there are people with the means who > > decide to get a camera, want the "best" and buy a $3,000 Nikon system with > > little idea of how to use it well. I'm sure Pentax would like to sell to >that > > customer too: sales are sales. It takes a lot of time and money to >establish > > that kind of reputation. > > > > --- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Your post got me to thinking, however. Could it be that the lack of a >"pro" > > > 35mm camera is the reason? I don't want to get into what a "pro" camera >is > > > (please!), but let's face it, when we see a PJ in a media scrum on the >news, > > > or > > > on the street, he/she invariably has an F5 or an EOS. I'm sure that the > > > public > > > sees that as well. > > > > > > I think that the fact that Pentax really hasn't catered to "pros" (PJ's >at > > > least) since the LX has hurt Pentax immeasurably. Or, maybe the >converse is > > > true: the fact (or at least the perception) that PJ's use C and >N > > > almost exclusively is a huge marketing coup for those two companies. > > > > > > As wonderful and capable a body as the MZ S is, PJ's aren't using it - >not > > > surprising, because I don't think they are necessarily who it is aimed >at. > > > But > > > it's also not surprising that the public thinks, "Wanna look like a pro? >I > > > will > > > if I buy C or N." > > Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! > > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: I want LX!
FV>> I want a second one ;-)) Don't let the Brotherhood of Bloat sway AR> How lucky for you -- I am coming to the Czech Republic in June. You can AR> tell my 67 that it is bloated to its face. ;) HEEPPP I must emigrate before Aaron gets me. Go to Brazil, change my face, switch to Nikon, whatever it takes to hide from him ;-)) Good light, Frantisek Vlcek P.S.: if all goes well, I will have my own 6x6 SLR by the time you get here, so we could get a shootout between a Pentacon (Kicks) Six and 67 ;) I bet some of my 66 lenses are heavier. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Rights and police behaviour. (Was: Hello and a lens question)
[...] C> 2) If it's unavoidable, leave exposed cans of film, or boxes of shot C> videotape at discreet locations (under bushes, in a hedge, over a wall, C> where they can be retrieved later in case of: C> 3) If four burly policeman demand your film or tape, obligingly hand over C> what you have left, apologise profusely and retreat to later collect your C> stash. [...] Hi, a good strategy when you have got a REALLY good shot of something you don't want to loose is rewind immediately and put in a new film, even if you were at the start of the first one. A local PJ who is (apart from normal stuff) a lot travelling to war zones and conflict zones (he's a nice humanitarian photographer, not like some of the "vultures". www.sibik.cz for those interested IIRC), recommends this from own experience. Obviously, you than hand out the man who is pointing the Kalashnikov at you the fresh roll of film out of camera, opening the back to full light, but keep the roll picturing him killing some innocents in your vest. Digital photographers using Sony's products have it easier that the tiny Memory Sticks are easy to swallow when in pinch. My Compact Flash card gives me creeps when I imagine swallowing it... However, there's always the danger of the army officer or bandit (sometimes both together in one man) wanting to see the Mem Stick anyway... unpleasent, eeek! Good light, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Lx metering question.
Sunday, March 10, 2002, 10:45:38 AM, Peter wrote: PS> Hi Frantisek, PS> sorry to bother you once again. I also have downloaded this manual. Maybe I PS> am blind, but I cannot find any reference to that. Could you please let me PS> know on which page it is. PS> I also noted a slight difference in your answers. Is it only one LED or PS> both LEDs that flicker? Perhaps I imagined reading it in the manual ;-) Probably it was on the "mir" site. I just checked the behaviour and both leds flicker, although with sometimes different frequency of the change. So I guess it the meter output circuit differentiates between more than just 1/2 stop, but the practical readable output is still just 1/2 stop, if I made myself understandable :) Good light, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax Med. format
David Spaulding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I understand the grip carries the batteries...it just feels loose to me. Is > this common of the 645? Also, do you think there will ever be a digital back > for the Pentax...it took a while to come out with a Polaroid back. > Hi Dave, On my two 645 the grips are rather firm, but I usually mount them very tight when I remove them from the bodies (quite common when packing the bodies in a bag or backpack - it's amazing how much room you gain when the body is gripless...). Have you tried to remove the grip and then mount it back on the body? Gianfranco = Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MX replacement foam
Sunday, March 10, 2002, 10:08:17 PM, Alan wrote: >>Does anyone know the size (width and thickness) of the >>film door foam I should order for my MX ? The Fargo website >>lists quite a few sizes. Thanks for any help/advice. AC> Don't know if it's useful to you. When I had the form replaced on my MX few AC> years ago in HK, the guy used velvet instead of the traditional form. The AC> good thing is velvet will last forever, almost. I still use that MX today. Yes, all my local friends in repair (some of them have been doing cameras for 40+ years) recommend normal cotton line or velvet for it. But I don't think a foam would be such a problem as it should last at least 10-20 years, no :) anyway Good light, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Consume yourself happy with instant gratification (WAS: Silly Photo.net thread)
Yep, that's why I bought it way back then. --- Peter Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Interesting, this was the poor man's Series One, if it's the same one I'm > remembering. > Same optical formula as the original Series One 70 210 in a smaller lighter > than two > touch package, a bit more flare prone due to being single coated rather > than multi > coated, but it stood up well to it's more exalted sibling in the lens tests > done by > Modern Photography at the time, and that 70-210 is still a very good lens > by todays > standards. I will agree that it wouldn't be worth converting the mount on > this one > since it was available in K mount. Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Consume yourself happy with instant gratification (WAS: Silly Photo.net thread)
I spent Halloween two years ago doing some street photography in Austin TX, (almost as wild in some way's as Mardi Gras in New Orleans), I was walking around with a 85 F2.0 on my LX trying to remain unobtrusive. The only other two photographers I noticed were using Canon and Nikon gear respectively using "Big" Zoom lenses and "Big" Flashes making no attempt to avoid disturbing the wild life. At 12:42 AM 3/11/2002 -0500, you wrote: >On 11 Mar 2002 at 0:28, T Rittenhouse wrote: > > > Aha! That explains it. No one ever sees a Pentax camera being used, > > because the Pentax users are all out in the woods taking pictures > > instead of hanging around the parking lot bragging about their > > cameras. > >Now you *know* this ain't true...we just do our bragging when the light's bad. > >tv >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX vs MX vs KX (was Re: I want LX!)
> I'm considering another body to add to my collection (actually, to replace > the ZX-50, which gets passed on to a friend). > Any have some input? Oh, wait.. I know you all have some input, so > does anyone want to share some input? > I don't want to spend a ton of cash on anything, because I can't > really imagine needing anything higher end. My ZX-5n does > everything I need it to, I just want an alternate body, and am > considering things besides the ZX-M, which is the fall back > choice. Another possibility, besides those already mentioned, is a Super Program. In many way, the Super Program is sort of the manual focus version of the ZX-5n, and decent ones can be picked up for ~much~ less money than an LX, and for approximately the same as a KX or an MX (maybe even less than an MX). With a Super Program, you would have manual exposure (like the KX, MX, and LX), as well as aperture-priority autoexposure (like the LX), TTL flash (like the LX), and some additional modes that the KX, MX, and LX lack. The big shortcoming that I see for you might be its reliance on battery power. Just my two f-stops worth... Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PDML UK meeting
nearly fly over for this.. At 09:22 11/03/2002 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Sounds promising > >Kind regards from sunny Brighton > >Peter >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: AF speed
I figured you did. Servo AF mode makes the most sense. I don't use the drive in rapid fire mode, either, though I see times when I might someday. It makes more sense (to me) to take rapid bursts with a digital camera than with a film camera but I haven't done that yet, except just for the heck of it. Len --- -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 12:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: AF speed I had the AF in servo mode. But the motor drive was set in single shot mode and all the other press photographers I met there shot the same way, even if they had cameras capable of fast frame rates. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
85 mm 2 vs 77mm 1.8
Maybe this is one of my stupid questions again, but anyhow. I read some nice words about the M 85/2 lense lately. And I need a portrait lense. Now I have the opportunity to by a M 85/2 in good condition for about 240 USD. Is that a reasonable price? And above all: would it be better to wait and save the money for the 77mm 1.8 Limited? Peter Smekal Uppsala, Sweden [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: PDML UK 2002
>woohoo! Nice one. I was hoping it would be nearer cotty HQ as thats >nearer me, but this is easy enough to get to. Better warn the Pentax >guy he is gonna get a grilling on their digital SLR future! > >BTW you link to last years show should be >http://www.iwm.org.uk/duxford/airshowleg.htm - you have linked to a >different show they had last year. Cheers Rob. It was more or less a joint idea with Malcolm. I think it'll work. Should be good. Cotts ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: AF speed
I had the AF in servo mode. But the motor drive was set in single shot mode and all the other press photographers I met there shot the same way, even if they had cameras capable of fast frame rates. >-- Original Message -- >From: "Paris, Leonard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Mark, did you shoot in AF Servo mode or in Single AF mode? Just curious. > >Len >--- > >-Original Message- >From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 8:13 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: AF speed > >This is exactly what happened when I shot motorcycle racing last summer. >I thought very few of my photos were in focus. When I got the slides done >I found every one was in focus. > >I'm looking forward to shooting some more of this kind of stuff this year, >but with the MZ-S this time. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: super-wide-angle options?
Sign me up for one of those $50 mir's :-) --- Mike Ignatiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have Mir 20/2.5 > It's big (the front cap has ~82mm diameter, the > filters get in the rear > and you cannot use them with ME-Super. My LX is fine > with them though) > and heavy. The build is a bit rough -- a far cry > from those smooth > Pentax lenses, but it's all metal construction > (maybe except the > focusing ring, not sure). The flare is a problem > (although it is > multicoated), quality is pretty good (they use > rare-earth glass for the > elements), although the edges are soft. I would say, > though, it's > passable even at f/2.5. Besides, mine was new for > $99 -- can't beat > that. > I'll be in russia soon, if I find any of thos there, > will surely bring > a few back, I believe one can get one there for as > little as $50 > (rumours). > > > > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 17:13:44 GMT > > From: "Mark Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: super-wide-angle options? > > > > All, > > > > I'd like to add super-wide-angle capability to my > photo setup. I've > > been > > mulling over the options, and I'm hoping to get > some advice from the > > list. > > I'd like to go rectilinear rather than fisheye, > and here are the > > options I'm > > considering: > > > > Cheap: > > -- > > Vivitar 19mm or Russian/Ukranian 20mm > > (are either of these worth considering?) > > > > Medium: > > --- > > Tokina 20-35 zoom (in the $200's) > > Used SMC-M 20mm F4 (around $350) > > > > Expensive: > > -- > > SMC-A or FA 20mm F2.8 ($400-500) > > FA 20-35mm F4 ($450?) > > > > Insanely Expensive > > --- > > Used SMC or SMC-A 15mm ($750-900) > > > > With the above options in mind, here are my > questions: > > > > 1) Are the MIR or Vivitars even worth > considering? > > > > 2) Is the Pentax 20-35 that much better than the > Tokina? > > > > 3) Are the primes that much better than the > zooms? > > > > 4) Anyone out there have experience with the > 15mm? > > > > Thanks a lot in advance! TTYL, > > > > --Mark (KE6NJ, inactive for more than a > decade) > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > __ Find, Connect, Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: LX vs MX vs KX
gfen wrote: >The other main concern with this is in regards to just how they use their >batteries. Does these cameras need batteries to operate anything other >than the light meter? The MX and KX both work fine without batteries. They only need power for the light meter. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: AF speed (was: Silly Photo.net thread)
Yep, that is correct. Using trap focus, which means autofocus is turned off, also turns off predictive autofocus. That means that shutter/mirror lag comes into full play. I don't believe any AF camera could work well that way. Can you use your own brain to press the shutter a bit before the object moves into focus? Yep, all it takes is lots of practice. Can you shoot in broad daylight using apertures like f/8 or f/11, and cover the subject with DOF? I guess so. It still helps to anticipate the object moving into the focus area. Len --- -Original Message- From: Rob Brigham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 10:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: AF speed (was: Silly Photo.net thread) Any difference must be due to AF innacuracy, shutter lag or a wrong prediction being masked by the DOF. IF the AF SPEED was not good enough then the shutter would not have fired as it would not have achieved FOCUS WIDE OPEN. The shot taken at F11 was still focussed as far as the camera was concerned before the aperture blades were closed - ie at f2.8. > -Original Message- > From: Bruce Rubenstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 11 March 2002 14:45 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: AF speed (was: Silly Photo.net thread) > > > Take a f2.8 telephoto lens, shoot a quick moving subject at > f2.8 and f11 and > see what the percentage of in focus shoots you get at both > apertures. If > they're both %100, find a more difficult subject. If they're > both 0% find an > easier subject. I already know the answer, because I've done it. > > > --- Rob Brigham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But DOF is not an issue for focussing - the camera focusses > wide open. > > It doesnt stop down until you take the shot. When you talk > about the > > subject leaving the plane of focus before the shutter fires this is > > shutter lag. Lens performance aside, the camer always gets > the subject > > in focus at f2.8 if it is an f2.8 lens. > Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: super-wide-angle options?
I have Mir 20/2.5 It's big (the front cap has ~82mm diameter, the filters get in the rear and you cannot use them with ME-Super. My LX is fine with them though) and heavy. The build is a bit rough -- a far cry from those smooth Pentax lenses, but it's all metal construction (maybe except the focusing ring, not sure). The flare is a problem (although it is multicoated), quality is pretty good (they use rare-earth glass for the elements), although the edges are soft. I would say, though, it's passable even at f/2.5. Besides, mine was new for $99 -- can't beat that. I'll be in russia soon, if I find any of thos there, will surely bring a few back, I believe one can get one there for as little as $50 (rumours). > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 17:13:44 GMT > From: "Mark Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: super-wide-angle options? > > All, > > I'd like to add super-wide-angle capability to my photo setup. I've > been > mulling over the options, and I'm hoping to get some advice from the > list. > I'd like to go rectilinear rather than fisheye, and here are the > options I'm > considering: > > Cheap: > -- > Vivitar 19mm or Russian/Ukranian 20mm > (are either of these worth considering?) > > Medium: > --- > Tokina 20-35 zoom (in the $200's) > Used SMC-M 20mm F4 (around $350) > > Expensive: > -- > SMC-A or FA 20mm F2.8 ($400-500) > FA 20-35mm F4 ($450?) > > Insanely Expensive > --- > Used SMC or SMC-A 15mm ($750-900) > > With the above options in mind, here are my questions: > > 1) Are the MIR or Vivitars even worth considering? > > 2) Is the Pentax 20-35 that much better than the Tokina? > > 3) Are the primes that much better than the zooms? > > 4) Anyone out there have experience with the 15mm? > > Thanks a lot in advance! TTYL, > > --Mark (KE6NJ, inactive for more than a decade) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX vs MX vs KX (was Re: I want LX!)
Sounds like you want a KX. MLU and mecahnical shutter speeds. Christian On Monday 11 March 2002 12:49, gfen wrote: > I think what holds my interest is a cheap body with MLU and one that > doesn't have a serious reliance on battery power. I'd like to do some > astrophotography someday. As I said, failing that, I'll get a ZX-M. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Hams awake!
Congratullations Collin! My email address says it all KP4TE, extra, been a ham for 26 years! Angel Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > I passed my Tech test today. > Now just gotta wait for the paperwork. > > Who are the rest of "US", the true bubbahood? > > Post your call signs, please. > > Thanks, > > Collin > > * > "Get over it." > Dr. Laura > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #2294
I have Mir 20/2.5 It's big (the front cap has ~82mm diameter, the filters get in the rear and you cannot use them with ME-Super. My LX is fine with them though) and heavy. The build is a bit rough -- a far cry from those smooth Pentax lenses, but it's all metal construction (maybe except the focusing ring, not sure). The flare is a problem (although it is multicoated), quality is pretty good (they use rare-earth glass for the elements), although the edges are soft. I would say, though, it's passable even at f/2.5. Besides, mine was new for $99 -- can't beat that. I'll be in russia soon, if I find any of thos there, will shurely bring a few back, I believe one can get one there for as little as $50 (rumours). > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 17:13:44 GMT > From: "Mark Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: super-wide-angle options? > > All, > > I'd like to add super-wide-angle capability to my photo setup. I've > been > mulling over the options, and I'm hoping to get some advice from the > list. > I'd like to go rectilinear rather than fisheye, and here are the > options I'm > considering: > > Cheap: > -- > Vivitar 19mm or Russian/Ukranian 20mm > (are either of these worth considering?) > > Medium: > --- > Tokina 20-35 zoom (in the $200's) > Used SMC-M 20mm F4 (around $350) > > Expensive: > -- > SMC-A or FA 20mm F2.8 ($400-500) > FA 20-35mm F4 ($450?) > > Insanely Expensive > --- > Used SMC or SMC-A 15mm ($750-900) > > With the above options in mind, here are my questions: > > 1) Are the MIR or Vivitars even worth considering? > > 2) Is the Pentax 20-35 that much better than the Tokina? > > 3) Are the primes that much better than the zooms? > > 4) Anyone out there have experience with the 15mm? > > Thanks a lot in advance! TTYL, > > --Mark (KE6NJ, inactive for more than a decade) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX vs MX vs KX (was Re: I want LX!)
The MX is not expensive, rugged, small, and a lot of extras are still available...you would not be sorry with one. Dave -- David Spaulding Photographer http://d.spaulding.tripod.com > From: gfen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:36:09 -0500 (EST) > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: LX vs MX vs KX (was Re: I want LX!) > > I'm considering another body to add to my collection (actually, to replace > the ZX-50, which gets passed on to a friend). > > The LX is out of the question. I'm not spending that much, but I notice > people continually chatting up the KX and the MX, and was wondering which > one people tend to prefer. I was intrigued by some messages in the best > body thread going around that the KX has got all the features of the LX, > except for the metering. > > Any have some input? Oh, wait.. I know you all have some input, so does > anyone want to share some input? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: super-wide-angle options?
Hi, Mark Erickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]: > I'd like to add super-wide-angle capability to my photo > setup. I've been mulling over the options, and I'm hoping > to get some advice from the list. > I'd like to go rectilinear rather than fisheye, and here are > the options I'm considering: (...) I'd also consider the Tokina 17/3.5 SL (not AF, not AT-X). It's cheap, compact and not a bad lens at all. Gabor - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax prices
That reminds me of all the free N70's they gave CTV, I so dread that camera but everyone thought it must be good if CTV and Star photographers had them. --- T Rittenhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The way Nikon and Canon got to be recognized is by > giving equipment away to > the wire services and major news media. Then you see > their "pros" using the > equipment and say. "Wow, look all the pros are using > Nikon and Canon, they > must be the best". > > Information source: a former Nikon Rep who serviced > the Washington, DC area > doing just that. > > Ciao, > Graywolf > http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto > > > > - Original Message - > From: Bruce Rubenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 9:24 AM > Subject: Re: Pentax prices > > > > A "pro" body, in and of itself, won't do much good > for image and increased > > sales. Witness the Maxxum 9, which hasn't changed > the perception of > Minolta as > > being a maker of mass market/amature cameras. > Contax certainly makes > cameras > > that some pros use, but that hasn't given them > widespread name recognition > > among non-enthusasists. The way that Nikon and > Canon have gotten pros to > use > > their equipment is by making a suitable product > and by supporting pros. > This > > takes a solid product, an extensive product line > (lenses), good repair > > facilities and the budget for the maker to pay for > it. Even when Canon > game out > > with their far advanced AF they had to spend a > small fortune, up front, to > get > > pros to switch. It's tough to get a sizeable > portion of the 35mm pro > market > > (Minolta gave up on it). A company may be able to > sell a lot more non-pro, > > amature bodies, because they have the right name > on it, but that's just > cashing > > in on your investment. Pentax persued the 35mm pro > market the same way > they did > > the MF market by making a good product (LX) and > letting it sell itself: > doesn't > > work in the 35mm market. > > A highend "image" body, that's not widely used by > pros, will be mostly > noticed > > by people already using that camera brand. It > won't get you many new > customers. > > To the general public, all you need to look like a > pro is a SLR, a big > lens and > > flash and a camera bag. I am sure that there are > people with the means who > > decide to get a camera, want the "best" and buy a > $3,000 Nikon system with > > little idea of how to use it well. I'm sure Pentax > would like to sell to > that > > customer too: sales are sales. It takes a lot of > time and money to > establish > > that kind of reputation. > > > > --- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > Your post got me to thinking, however. Could it > be that the lack of a > "pro" > > > 35mm camera is the reason? I don't want to get > into what a "pro" camera > is > > > (please!), but let's face it, when we see a PJ > in a media scrum on the > news, > > > or > > > on the street, he/she invariably has an F5 or an > EOS. I'm sure that the > > > public > > > sees that as well. > > > > > > I think that the fact that Pentax really hasn't > catered to "pros" (PJ's > at > > > least) since the LX has hurt Pentax > immeasurably. Or, maybe the > converse is > > > true: the fact (or at least the perception) > that PJ's use C and > N > > > almost exclusively is a huge marketing coup for > those two companies. > > > > > > As wonderful and capable a body as the MZ S is, > PJ's aren't using it - > not > > > surprising, because I don't think they are > necessarily who it is aimed > at. > > > But > > > it's also not surprising that the public thinks, > "Wanna look like a pro? > I > > > will > > > if I buy C or N." > > Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free > email! > > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the > directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > __ Find, Connect, Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: AF speed (was: Silly Photo.net thread)
...and use gaussian blur on the backgrond in PS. --- Brendan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Set it to F 8 and it will be in focus > :) Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX vs MX vs KX (was Re: I want LX!)
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The MX is lighter than the KX. Both have real similar features but you can change >out the screens on the MX. KX has a higher ISO range. Does the KX have a split screen? > Were it me, I have to say I'd wait and spend a little more for the LX. It's a nearly >perfect camera. No interest in it, at all. If I were spending that much, I'd buy an MZ-S probably. Or med format camera. I think what holds my interest is a cheap body with MLU and one that doesn't have a serious reliance on battery power. I'd like to do some astrophotography someday. As I said, failing that, I'll get a ZX-M. -- http://www.infotainment.org "The destructive character is cheerful." - Walter Benjamin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
