RE: Re[2]: OT: Oh, I get it...
Subject: Re[2]: OT: Oh, I get it... JCO, I am thinking about some longer glass for the 67. My current longest is 165. I would like more reach, but would also like it to be handholdable or monopodable (new words?). What has been your experience with the 300? I know there is an old and new version. My understanding is the new version focuses much closer, but weighs more and costs lots more. Have you tried using the 300 with an extension tube to bring the focus closer than 16 feet? Thanks, Bruce Dayton I have the older 300 F4 (smct) and it's EXCELLENT just like all of the P67 lenses I've bought. Yeah, the minimum focus isnt that great, but thats why I bought the ext. tubes. The 300 is very hand holdable and really sharp. I paid $600 for mine in mint condition at ebay. I would recommend it VERY highly for the money. I do not think I will buy anything longer for the 67 as the cost and bulk of the longer lenses is just too much. For long lengths, I'm gonna stick with 35mm. That why I just bought the 135-600 for 35mm. JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: Interesting inkjet printer
Hi, Whats the deal with colour profiles? This page is a very good introduction to colour spaces and colour management which shows how and why profiles are useful: http://www.barco.com/display_systems/support/colorthe/colorthe.htm --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Monday, March 11, 2002, 7:09:59 AM, you wrote: - Original Message - From: T Rittenhouse Subject: Re: Interesting inkjet printer He had about 50 prints laying out on he table at the computer show. They looked good. And why would he need anything other than the epson .icc files. He is using the same print head. Might be slight differences in the ink, but I would think you could adjust for that. Whats the deal with colour profiles? I hear over and over about people plopping down money for colour profiles. The people that are teaching me this stuff (one has been working with Photoshop since version1) tell me to use the colour setting on the printer to dial it into the screen. Are they missing something? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: remounting lenses for pentax
MR Perhaps if you can live with manual diaphragm it might be more affordable to get MR it converted to screw mount and use a K-M42 adapter, When you are at it having it converted to M42, with manual diaphragm, it's no problem and no additional bucks converting it to K in the process. The machinists just drills TWO holes, screws on the adapter K really tight, secures it with a worm screw, and the other drilled hole is the K bayonet locking pin hole. That way, if you ever want to use it on M42 camera, you just loosen the worm and unscrew the adapter (using wooden sticks! That's the right tool to remove stuck adapters, NOT metal!) Good light, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Durst Laborator - My Favorite Enlarger
Sunday, March 10, 2002, 7:51:36 AM, Shel wrote: SB http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/temp/5x7laborator.html SB They used to have, and maybe still do, a similar model in 4x5 format. SB The adjustable table takes a vacuum attachment which holds the paper SB perfectly flat and allows borderless, easel-less printing. The table SB raises and lowers electrically, and tilts in all planes. The enlarger SB head also tilts. Hi, I also made a mistake at looking at laborator-type enlargers (meopta's) once ;-( (really nice stuff! motordriven, apo lens, BIG heavy...)BTW, some people on the Large format list have IIRC constructed vacuum easels themselves, you might check the web. Good light, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Rights and police behaviour. (Was: Hello and a lens question)
BR through the courts I'll have already gotten what I wanted. Creating a scene BR with cops can also be risky business: That gash on his head? He tripped and BR fell. The other three cops will swear to it also. BR Just a word to the wise. Yes, I would be VERY careful with cops when there aren't no other witnesses around, especially in present USA... (or anywhere in the world, if you look even a bit different. Policemen are mostly not hired for their tolerance you know, although there are /few/ exceptions) I can easily remember police lines of the type the accosted on purpose broke the police car's front glass with his head when struggling to escape and the like. Isn't it a movie line that the good cop says to the bad fella shut up or my gun will have a malfunction ? Good light, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Thinking about Darkroom
Saturday, March 09, 2002, 8:20:39 AM, tom wrote: t On 8 Mar 2002 at 16:52, Shel Belinkoff wrote: What material did you use to block the light? t I bought a roll of stuff from b+h which they called black out cloth but turned out to be very heavy trash bag material. Turned out to work fine...it seemed to totally t block out full sunlight even with just one layer. t I use two just in case. t It was this stuff: t http://www02.bhphotovideo.com/default.sph/FrameWork.class?FNC=ProductActivator__Aproductlist_html___66796___DEBOC4___REG___CatID=541___SID=ECB07C247 t 30 t It blocks a double window. I use it that room to load film reels...it's black in there. t tv Just be careful when using IR film, if you ever do. I think to remember that most black plastic sheet is trasnparent to IR... Good light, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Rights and police behaviour. (Was: Hello and a lens question)
MI you guys are right, i should have probably behaved differently, it's just MI when, all over sudden, you get surrounded by cops... well i got really MI nervous, to say the least -- not much experience in this department, not in MI this country anyway. add to that that i am not an american, just a MI permanent resident and there's always INS out there (guys in IRS are kids MI compared to them), especially now after 9/11. makes you wonder just how many MI things authorities can write off to this. Hi Mike, I can feel what you were trough. The pain of knowing you have the right, that justice is on your_side, but power is on the side of the guys who are supposed to protect your rights... it's hard to think rationally. I guess you could have noted down their numbers at least (DO the cops in USA have numbers at least? God knows now in all the more security, just more security, damn the rights atmosphere). Although with your resident status, I guess you were better to be silent, even though it's sad. It's ugly how the powers that are abuse human tragedy (the 9/11 events) to only gain more power, it's cynical and ugly. MI anyhow, if any of you guys is in boston and likes industrial pics -- that's MI one great place to shoot. assuming you are just a bit more careful. BTW, what's so controversial about the construction site as somebody noted few posts earlier? I would have gone there but I am a bit away (10 000 km g) Good light, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Batteries for LX
Hi Fred, Fred wrote: I obtained it through Peter of CamDir (who has helped many of us here on the PDML get hold of some of the hard-to-find Pentaxia). So, I'm sorry to say that it's not just a stock item someplace (that I am aware of). Thanks. That will teach me to look on my own doorstep before peering further afield.. mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: AF speed (was: Silly Photo.net thread)
But DOF is not an issue for focussing - the camera focusses wide open. It doesnt stop down until you take the shot. When you talk about the subject leaving the plane of focus before the shutter fires this is shutter lag. Lens performance aside, the camer always gets the subject in focus at f2.8 if it is an f2.8 lens. -Original Message- From: Bruce Rubenstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 March 2002 01:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: AF speed (was: Silly Photo.net thread) The issue is Depth Of Field. Shooting wide open with long lenses gives a very shallow DOF. If the whole AF system (lens speed/electronics/motor, etc.) doesn't work fast enough, the subject can past through the range of apperent sharpness before the shutter fires. Before AF lenses were stopped down for focus margin for shots like this. Lens performance aside, it's harder to get a fast moving subject in focus at f2.8 than f11. --- Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dont get this question. The focussing aperture was F/2.8, or possibly F/4 with the teleconvertor. Since the shutter doesnt fire unless the subject is in focus, the shooting aperture is pretty much irrelevant. Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 APO
Hi Wendy, I have the 70-200 f2.8 EX Sigma (one of the latest models), and as a lens its fantastic in built, sharpness, contrast and very slightly colder than SMC glass. HOWEVER (perhaps of general interest to the PDML), the lens seems to be having a problem with my MZ-s in terms of autofocus. It tends to be slightly out of focus when using the Autofocus, especially noticeable at the 200mm end. Now, I've tried the lens on the z-1 and it works fine, I've tried Pentax lenses ans the 28-70 f2.8 Sigma on the MZ-s ad it works fine. So: rapid conclusion is that there may be a problem with the compatibility of this lens with the MZ-S. I have sent it to Sigma Italy, they have verified the presence of a problem (with more than one 70-200mm f2.8 lens) and they are corresponding with Japan to see if its a problem with lens software. So far they cannot find out what's wrong. but are working on it. WIll keep the list posted Michele --- wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, First question: Does anyone have experience of the Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 APO EX ? (or the older 82mm filter size 70-210) Second question: Cameraworld of Oregon - good, bad, indifferent? What's their relationship with KEH? I have a pentax 80-320 already, but am looking for something a little faster for the dog agility trials I go to. Unfortunately, I don't have an unlimited budget! tia Wendy --- Wendy Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] home page http://www.beard-redfern.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Kid's TV
Hi, Cotty wrote: Why, Mike, I am surprised at you. I will double check with my source. I was a bit old for the joys of Supermarionation by that time. Caught up with some of it at University (actually Polytechnic) second time round. 8-) Sorry for the delay replying. Don't have mail access at home - I spend enough time in front of a CRT during the week, so I like to see that yellow thing in the sky at weekends. Not that it's been around much recently. mike whiter than driven snow - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 APO
Sounds a bit like my Ef430 flash. This had problems on the MZ-S where it kept cycling through the focal lengths non stop. Sigma had not tried it on the MZ-S as it had only just come out at the time, but they got one and confirmed the problem. The flash needed a new chip and I had to send it to Sigma Uk who sent it to Japan as they had only just developed the new chips and had to fit them there at the time. Shame it didnt work to start with, but then Pentax must have changed what seemed like a relatively simple communication mechanism - not really Sigma's fault. Sigma were almost flawless in dealing with the problem, and it now works fine. They didnt even ask for proof of warranty or anything - just did it. The only slight hassle was that Sigma UK messed up the customs forms slightly and it was delayed for a while, but then they were a new company (just taken over from Jenoptic) at the time. This is useful as I was just about to buy a 70-200 for my MZ-S. I will now wait - please keep us updated. I have no problem with the Sigma 17-35EX, 28-70EX, or 70-300APO so surely there is no inherent flaw in Sigma's programming? I dont quite see what the problem is, especially if it has happenned in multiple (all?) samples. -Original Message- From: MPozzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 March 2002 10:43 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 APO Hi Wendy, I have the 70-200 f2.8 EX Sigma (one of the latest models), and as a lens its fantastic in built, sharpness, contrast and very slightly colder than SMC glass. HOWEVER (perhaps of general interest to the PDML), the lens seems to be having a problem with my MZ-s in terms of autofocus. It tends to be slightly out of focus when using the Autofocus, especially noticeable at the 200mm end. Now, I've tried the lens on the z-1 and it works fine, I've tried Pentax lenses ans the 28-70 f2.8 Sigma on the MZ-s ad it works fine. So: rapid conclusion is that there may be a problem with the compatibility of this lens with the MZ-S. I have sent it to Sigma Italy, they have verified the presence of a problem (with more than one 70-200mm f2.8 lens) and they are corresponding with Japan to see if its a problem with lens software. So far they cannot find out what's wrong. but are working on it. WIll keep the list posted Michele --- wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, First question: Does anyone have experience of the Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 APO EX ? (or the older 82mm filter size 70-210) Second question: Cameraworld of Oregon - good, bad, indifferent? What's their relationship with KEH? I have a pentax 80-320 already, but am looking for something a little faster for the dog agility trials I go to. Unfortunately, I don't have an unlimited budget! tia Wendy --- Wendy Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] home page http://www.beard-redfern.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Making Large Prints (Was nice ebay buy)
I'll try to post some pics later this week. Paul Shel Belinkoff wrote: Cool! Ain't it grand when an idea comes together and you can make it happen just by using things around the house? When are we going to see some photos of your darkroom? Paul Stenquist wrote: Well, I went for the second level table with the reversed enlarger. I was ready to head for Home Depot to look for something that might serve as a pedestal mount or, alternatively, a low table that I could use with the enlarger reversed. Then I looked out my patio doors and spotted an old piece of patio furniture: a coffee table sized table with a glass top and metal framework. It was part of a set of patio furniture that is long gone, and it's become somewhat of an eyesore. However, it's stoutly built, 22 inches wide, and 30 inches long. It stands about 15 inches high. It turns out to be the perfect height to serve as a second level enlarging table. With the enlarger mounted on the forward edge of the primary table, which stands about 30 inches high, I can rotate it to face outward and print on the 15 inch high table. This gives me a range of print sizes from 11x14 to 20x24 with the 100mm lens and 6x7 neg. Of course I can use a longer lens to pring smaller.. Rotating the enlarger column 180 degrees (as the Omega allows), I can print from about 4x6 up to 11x14 on the primary table with the 100mm lens. The enlarger is bolted solidly to the primary table, which is attached to the foundation of the house. It was a simple matter to align the surface of the lower level table with the enlarger head. All it required was one .060 inch shim under one leg of the table. I also found I can print 16x20 and still adjust focus without an extension. For now, that's as big as I'm going to go, so I'm in business. As soon as my 135 lens arrives, I'll see how it all works out with 4x5 -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Ebay question (was: 6x7 questions)
Looks like you got a heck of a buy, and great that she did take the PayPal and even offer inspection time. Those are the kind of buys that keep you looking on eBay. Lately there have been some crazy buyers on eBay willing to pretty much pay full price for used when they could get the same new. It's been tough finding some good bargains lately but it sounds like you definitely got one. Dan Kirsch Mike Ignatiev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got the sucker!!! I asked a couple of questions the seller and got a quick reply. She sounded an honest and accomodating person (she agreed to set up a paypal acct for payment and granted a week for inspection), so I took the risk. Congratulate me now in a week or two, when I will actually have the beast in my hands. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Hams awake!
Congratulations, Collin! Len - KD9S --- -Original Message- From: Collin Brendemuehl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 4:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hams awake! I passed my Tech test today. Now just gotta wait for the paperwork. Who are the rest of US, the true bubbahood? Post your call signs, please. Thanks, Collin * Get over it. Dr. Laura --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Oh, I get it...
JCO wrote: I bought 67 body, prism, grip, ext. tubes, strap, and 8 lenses 45,55,75,90LS,105,135,200, 300. Total outlay $4000. Everything is is excellent to mint shape. Cost would have been WAY more if I had gone all newBelieve me I have spent alot more on screwmount 35mm, probably gloat, gloat! Hey, who got the quartz Takumar? I just bid on a really old pentax - and - if I get it (no clues), I will gloat too. Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 APO
Hello Wendy, the sigma lens you speak of is an excellent lens. I have read many reviews and I own one myself. There are some people who go as far as to rate it above the pentax and nikon equivalent. Personally, I have taken beautiful photos with this lens and I find it very reasonably priced. You can pick it up for about $626 US at Delta International, I'm not sure what CameraWorld is selling for.That's where I purchased mine. They throw in a 3 year Mack warranty aswell. Luis - Original Message - From: wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 9:05 PM Subject: Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 APO Hi All, First question: Does anyone have experience of the Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 APO EX ? (or the older 82mm filter size 70-210) Second question: Cameraworld of Oregon - good, bad, indifferent? What's their relationship with KEH? I have a pentax 80-320 already, but am looking for something a little faster for the dog agility trials I go to. Unfortunately, I don't have an unlimited budget! tia Wendy --- Wendy Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] home page http://www.beard-redfern.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Consume yourself happy with instant gratification (WAS: Silly Photo.net t...
Doug, I suppose the other interpretation is that we are all ignorant Philistines here in North America who have too much money to spend. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pål, Let's see. You're saying that, based on the preferences of Photo.Net regulars, all North American nature photographers travel in packs and shoot nothing they can't see from the pavement. By that logic, all nature photographers use Nikon and Canon, because that's the preference of the Photo.Net regulars. hmmm. How does this work out? Doug - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: subtrifuge WAS: Singing the praises of KEH
I'm DEFIANTLY going to try that! - Original Message - From: Paul F. Stregevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 11:25 PM Subject: Re: Singing the praises of KEH Yep, that's why I order from Adorama whenever possible. They'll ship USPS so I can put a hold on the box at the post office and sneak it in the house when my wife isn't looking. Hmmm... Now if I could only convince KEH to be willing to ship via the USPS, rather than by UPS, I'd ~really~ be singing praises - g. Fred Paul Franklin Stregevsky - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
UK PDML Meet
Cotty You can count on me as a definitely interested and will make it if at all possible for the PDMLUK gathering. My sister is getting married one weekend in July, but hasn't yet decided which one (!) so that's the only thing that will stop me at this stage. My SO Vanessa loves planes so she may well be up for this also, and she can bring her 5n. Thanks are definitely due to you and Malcolm for taking the time to organise this. One question - does John Dickens (Pentax UK Marketing Manager) know what he's in for??? Does he read the PDML? Looking forward to it already. I reckon we'll be a better looking bunch than the Canadians as well g,d r Regards Jim Brooks - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Consume yourself happy with instant gratification (WAS: Silly Photo.net t...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: or those damned bears catching salmon in that waterfall somewhere up north. laugh Yes, I bought a picture of those bears ~15 years ago. It comes from Kodiac Island in Alaska and I read that there was a platform set-up for photographers to shoot from. It is actually a very remote national park, at least 1,000 miles from the 'lower 48' states and getting to the island is a day trip from anywhere accessible by commercial jet airliner. These folks may be Nikon and Canon shooters, but they aren't casual 'from the road' nature photographers. Regards, Bob S. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: AF speed
Rob wrote: But DOF is not an issue for focussing - the camera focusses wide open. It doesnt stop down until you take the shot. DOF can theoretically compensate for slight focusing errors but usually it doesn't come into play because AF system takes it into consideration. See below... When you talk about the subject leaving the plane of focus before the shutter fires this is shutter lag. Lens performance aside, the camer always gets the subject in focus at f2.8 if it is an f2.8 lens. For moving systems you use predictive AF. It takes subject movement, AF speed and shutter lag into consideration when calculate the plane of focus. If you use this feature every image will seem unsharp in the viewfinder but every image should be sharp on the film. This is because the image is only in focus the moment when the shutter opens. I wonder if many who dismiss AF systems are just testing them out with no film in the camera. A Pentax camera like the Z-1p and the MZ-S will seem hopeless for moving subjects in the viewfinder, never getting the image in focus, but the resultant image should be just fine. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Consume yourself happy with instant gratification (WAS: Silly Photo.net thread)
BTW Interestingly enough, and also a point that underlines the consumerist nature of photo.net, is the fact that there's a anti medium format undercurrent on the nature section. Pretty weird considering that MF is the most popular format globally for landscape, which is the most popular area of nature photography. Of course, anything that can, in one way or another, be considered better than the consensus products is in effect a threat to happy consumerism for the majority of the posters. MF need to be dismissed as ok for weddings, which is apparently the grosses insult there is, but not for serious photography. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 APO
Wendy, My wife and I have the 70-200 2.8 EX. An excellent lens, works without a problem on the ZX-5n. It also has a nice manual focus feel for an AF lens, so it gets good use on the LX too. Lens is sharp and crisp/contrasty, more so than the Pentax 80-320. The removable tripod mount is good and allows easy rotation between portrait and landscape orientation. The matching 1.4x EX teleconvertor [there's a 2x too, but I have no experience with it] seems to work with no noticable image quality loss. The lens comes with a hood and a case. Two complaints: [1] the AF/MF clutch does not affect the AF/MF setting on the ZX-5n, so you have to change both, and [2] flare resistance is good, but not up to SMC standards. Steve Hi All, First question: Does anyone have experience of the Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 APO EX ? (or the older 82mm filter size 70-210) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Consume yourself happy with instant gratification (WAS: Silly Photo.net thread)
Is this the same magazine as we have in the UK called Outdoor Photography? The one where Andy Rouse uses a 645NII. Alan Pål wrote: Sorry for the sarcasm but this is the essence of what you get from reading the nature section on Photo.net for awhile. Besides, you get the same impression from reading Outdoor Photographer magazine. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Oh, I get it...
My reasoning behind buying a 6x7 outfit was almost opposite: I was getting a lpmm paranoia and was considering paying serious money for the 85mm/1.4 (I have seen one on ebay lately going for $650, maybe more now), until I realized that (1) to get the best quality out of it tripod is definitely a must, (2) those kind of lenses are not exactly lightweight (3) and neither are they cheap. So here's when 67 enters. f/2.x is most likely fast enough to use 400 film and kick ass of anything 35 mm has to offer, so when quality comes first this is probably hard to beat. And the weight/price/convenience should be comparable at least. OTOH, I have my lightweight 35mm kit (along with a MES/pancake, my point and shoot on steroids) which is *very* handy and which I just toss in any bag along with a tabletop tripod without giving much thought for weight/size/etc. Oh, and with all that discussion about viewfinders -- it totally escapes me why the removable finders in 35mm format are gone with LX and F3. I am totally in love with FE-1 for LX -- 1.3 magnification gives a truly gorgeous picture. And this is what ruled out a P645 option for me: I wouldn't even consider anything that costs that much and wouldn't have a waistlevel viewing option. Just my 2c. Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 14:16:12 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l?= Audun Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Oh, I get it... Well, personally I got more critical after starting using medium format. So now my 35mm lenses better be good to make me happy. I try to get the best out of my 35mm system by using the best lenses. In that way I won't be that sorry when I have a good shot on 35mm instead of on MF. Pel - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: AF speed
Pål wrote: For moving systems you use predictive AF. It takes subject movement, AF speed and shutter lag into consideration when calculate the plane of focus. If you use this feature every image will seem unsharp in the viewfinder but every image should be sharp on the film. This is because the image is only in focus the moment when the shutter opens. I wonder if many who dismiss AF systems are just testing them out with no film in the camera. A Pentax camera like the Z-1p and the MZ-S will seem hopeless for moving subjects in the viewfinder, never getting the image in focus, but the resultant image should be just fine. This is exactly what happened when I shot motorcycle racing last summer. I thought very few of my photos were in focus. When I got the slides done I found every one was in focus. I'm looking forward to shooting some more of this kind of stuff this year, but with the MZ-S this time. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: AF speed
On Monday, March 11, 2002, at 08:56 AM, Pål Audun Jensen wrote: I wonder if many who dismiss AF systems are just testing them out with no film in the camera. A Pentax camera like the Z-1p and the MZ-S will seem hopeless for moving subjects in the viewfinder, never getting the image in focus, but the resultant image should be just fine. Perhaps Bruce can enlighten us about the details of his head to head with the Z-1p and 28-105 vs. the Nikon body he used and Nikkor 28-105. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
New Toys
These now belong to us (temporarily, I am sure). LX Soft Leather Case 24mm F2.8M 28mm F2.8A 135mm F3.5M 50mm F1.4M (has coating marks) Rect Hood for above 75-150 boxed KT6 2x cased Autobellows A (no dcr) Slide Copier A 49mm reverse ring AF200T AFW1 Diffuser Hot Shoe Grip x2 4P Sync Cord B 5m 4P Sync Cord A 50cm 4P TTL Multicord 5M TTL Distributor 3P 5m Remote Cord (LX/ME2 winders) ... and an LX winder that only works in reverse! - Might get this repaired or offers. Toodle Pip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PDML UK meeting
Sounds promising Kind regards from sunny Brighton Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Consume yourself happy with instant gratification (WAS: Silly Photo.net thread)
Alan wrote: Is this the same magazine as we have in the UK called Outdoor Photography? The one where Andy Rouse uses a 645NII. Yup, and I agree with Pal on that one. I get said magazine and it seems mostly gear oriented (including SUV's), although there are very good columns by very good photographers interspersed. The article on taking a Jeep liberty on a photo-shoot in Arizona was a good example of what Pal was getting at I think. Regards, /\/\ick... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: AF speed (was: Silly Photo.net thread)
- Original Message - From: Rob Brigham Subject: RE: AF speed (was: Silly Photo.net thread) But DOF is not an issue for focussing - the camera focusses wide open. It doesnt stop down until you take the shot. When you talk about the subject leaving the plane of focus before the shutter fires this is shutter lag. Lens performance aside, the camer always gets the subject in focus at f2.8 if it is an f2.8 lens. DOF is an issue for focussing. You are treating the subject as if it is two separate issues, and you are wrong. Focus with an AF (or any) camera is dependant upon the subject being within the plane of acceptable focus at the moment of exposure. This is an interpendant issue of camera and lens, as they work as a single unit. With an AF camera, the sensor must be perfectly aligned to the focal plane to achieve perfect focus. This means absolutely no allowable margin of error. Remember, we are talking about wavelengths of light here, so any error, even a few millionths of an inch will make focus dependant on DOF. Then the focus electronics must be fast enough to make focus decisions, and be able to actuate the AF motor, which in turn must transfer that torque to the lens's focussing elements. Now focus is also dependant upon motor torque and AF gear ratios. Focus is also dependant on how fast the subject moves after the camera has confimed focus and begins the exposure cycle, as after the mirror starts to move, AF measurment is impossible. Predictive AF is the camera guessing about where the subject will be, based on where the subject has been. It may or may not be accurate. Most likely, not. Oh yes, since it is a mechanism, there must be an element of slop involved to allow the moving parts to move. Not much, but we are talking about wavelengths of light as being the limiting factor for allowable error. There is a reason for why Nikon F5's cost a lot of money. It has very little do do with the nameplate, and very much to do with how the body handles the tasks presented to it. I have been in situations with my MZ-5 where the camera has been unable to secure focus on a dog running towards me in a daylit outdoor area. I have found Pentax AF performance rather dissapointing. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Favorite Enlarger
In a message dated 3/11/02 8:39:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Frantisek Vlcek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Durst Laborator - My Favorite Enlarger Sunday, March 10, 2002, 7:51:36 AM, Shel wrote: SB http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/temp/5x7laborator.html SB They used to have, and maybe still do, a similar model in 4x5 format. SB The adjustable table takes a vacuum attachment which holds the paper SB perfectly flat and allows borderless, easel-less printing. The table SB raises and lowers electrically, and tilts in all planes. The enlarger SB head also tilts. Hi, I also made a mistake at looking at laborator-type enlargers (meopta's) once ;-( (really nice stuff! motordriven, apo lens, BIG heavy...)BTW, some people on the Large format list have IIRC constructed vacuum easels themselves, you might check the web. Years ago I had a Durst M35. One beauty. I sold it; the mistake of my photographic life. I've since contacted Durst. They have no units. To me it was the perfect machine. I made one big mistake selling it. Burt NYC USA - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax prices
A pro body, in and of itself, won't do much good for image and increased sales. Witness the Maxxum 9, which hasn't changed the perception of Minolta as being a maker of mass market/amature cameras. Contax certainly makes cameras that some pros use, but that hasn't given them widespread name recognition among non-enthusasists. The way that Nikon and Canon have gotten pros to use their equipment is by making a suitable product and by supporting pros. This takes a solid product, an extensive product line (lenses), good repair facilities and the budget for the maker to pay for it. Even when Canon game out with their far advanced AF they had to spend a small fortune, up front, to get pros to switch. It's tough to get a sizeable portion of the 35mm pro market (Minolta gave up on it). A company may be able to sell a lot more non-pro, amature bodies, because they have the right name on it, but that's just cashing in on your investment. Pentax persued the 35mm pro market the same way they did the MF market by making a good product (LX) and letting it sell itself: doesn't work in the 35mm market. A highend image body, that's not widely used by pros, will be mostly noticed by people already using that camera brand. It won't get you many new customers. To the general public, all you need to look like a pro is a SLR, a big lens and flash and a camera bag. I am sure that there are people with the means who decide to get a camera, want the best and buy a $3,000 Nikon system with little idea of how to use it well. I'm sure Pentax would like to sell to that customer too: sales are sales. It takes a lot of time and money to establish that kind of reputation. --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your post got me to thinking, however. Could it be that the lack of a pro 35mm camera is the reason? I don't want to get into what a pro camera is (please!), but let's face it, when we see a PJ in a media scrum on the news, or on the street, he/she invariably has an F5 or an EOS. I'm sure that the public sees that as well. I think that the fact that Pentax really hasn't catered to pros (PJ's at least) since the LX has hurt Pentax immeasurably. Or, maybe the converse is true: the fact (or at least the perception) that PJ's use C and N almost exclusively is a huge marketing coup for those two companies. As wonderful and capable a body as the MZ S is, PJ's aren't using it - not surprising, because I don't think they are necessarily who it is aimed at. But it's also not surprising that the public thinks, Wanna look like a pro? I will if I buy C or N. Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Consume yourself happy with instant gratification (WAS: Silly Photo.net thread)
I wrote: One of the more interesting technique are the arguments against eg. brand y, and even if this has nothing to do with the consensus brands, it used anyway as an argument as why you should buy those brands. These argument have almost never any contextual basis, like what the photographer prefers or what needs he/she has. One example of this is that a rank amateur considering a Pentax MZ-5n should buy a Nikon or a Canon because you can't rent a Pentax 600/4 in Florida. It is of course of no consequence to this rational argument that 99,99% of the worlds population have never been to Florida or that 99,99% of Pentax users in Florida never considers renting a 600/4. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Consume yourself happy with instant gratification (WAS: Silly Photo.net thread)
- Original Message - From: Aaron Reynolds Subject: Re: Consume yourself happy with instant gratification (WAS: Silly Photo.net thread) On Sunday, March 10, 2002, at 08:22 PM, Bruce Rubenstein wrote: The original snippy remark applied to Vivitar and Kiron lenses with Konica mounts. Aside from the Series 1 lenses, Vivitar lenses along with Kiron are best known for being inexpensive. If they have Konica mounts, they're probably older than a number of members on this list. My assumption was that they were probably cheap, old lenses. Perhaps this would be easier to understand for me if you could give me a sampling of the ones you've used that were optically poor. After all, your assumption is based on having used at least one of them, right? I had a Vivitar 135mm f/2.8 lens that was so bad I took the glass out of it and made a flower pot out of. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Oh, I get it...
- Original Message - From: Mike Ignatiev Subject: Re: OT: Oh, I get it... Oh, and with all that discussion about viewfinders -- it totally escapes me why the removable finders in 35mm format are gone with LX and F3. The F5 has interchangable finders. I expect the F4 did as well. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Thinking about Darkroom
On 10 Mar 2002 at 11:03, Frantisek Vlcek wrote: Just be careful when using IR film, if you ever do. I think to remember that most black plastic sheet is trasnparent to IR... Thanks, I did...that stuff goes into the changing bag inside the darkroom. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Interesting inkjet printer
There is a difference between looking good and looking correct. I would expect anyone trying to sell a system like that to have good looking prints on display. What is not known is how they looked on the computer screen compared to how they printed out, or whether he used a monitor calibration and profile system like ColorVision to get the output correct. The ICC profiles would be important to get proper color and that would change with using a different ink, although the company does claim their inks are very close to the Epson inks. They would also be important if using Photoshop versions that support color management. The problem would be similar to printing a Fuji neg on a Kodak film channel. The print would probably look acceptable, but compared to a print made on the correct channel it would no be as good. One other question that begs to be asked is what happens if this company folds, or quits making the inks. Are you forced to go back to regular Epson cartridges? I am not necessarily knocking this company, but where a similar product is being made by a long established company (Luminous) with archival inks, ICC profiles available, at about $100 less then this system, I would think twice about using them over Luminous. BUTCH Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself Hermann Hesse (Demian) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: 6x7 questions
On 10 Mar 2002 at 23:16, Bruce Dayton wrote: tom, That was one other thing that I liked about the 67 as I handled the two formats. I'm not admitting that I like square pictures, but the 35mm ratio seems a bit too wide to my liking. I found the 67 in viewfinder and negative feel more comfortable than 35mm or 645. The 645 is also a bit wider than 67. Well, I *like* the dimensions, I think 6x4.5 is about perfect, and 6x7 is too square. What Bill and I are talking about is the fact you have to turn the easel vertically when printing. It feels weird and fouls the column. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Consume yourself happy with instant gratification (WAS:Silly Photo.net thread)
And how is Photo.net different than any mailing list that espouses a particular brand of cameras and attenuate accessories. There's an awful lot of enabling going on on this list, and not only for the 67 cameras. IMO, the truth is that the internet encourages consumerism in these instances, with groups of people with similar interests getting together and, essentially, congratulating one another on their cleverness. I see it on the Leica list, the CV list, the RF list, and so on. Individuals now often make buying decisions based on touts from their own group - after all, who knows a particular brand of product better than the people who use it, notwithstanding the fact that many of those users may not be familiar or experienced with similar, competing products. I recognize that these comments are a bit of a generalization, but no more so than Pål's comments, and I believe that, while there are certainly exceptions to this way of going about making purchasing decisions, there are, nonetheless, many decisions made in this fashion. Witness the spate of 67 purchases after Aaron waxed so ecstatic about his find. Of those who subsequently purchased a 67, how many actually went out and physically compared the Pentax to other brands - actually using several (not just holding them and dry-firing them in a camera shop), making direct comparisons, and determining *from that experience* which 6x7 format camera was ideal for them? How many, after hearing the praises heaped on the 67 by those who already owned one, bought one on eBay or elsewhere without ever having made the comparison, or even spending a day or so with a 67? Pål Audun Jensen wrote: BTW Interestingly enough, and also a point that underlines the consumerist nature of photo.net, is the fact that there's a anti medium format undercurrent on the nature section. Pretty weird considering that MF is the most popular format globally for landscape, which is the most popular area of nature photography. Of course, anything that can, in one way or another, be considered better than the consensus products is in effect a threat to happy consumerism for the majority of the posters. MF need to be dismissed as ok for weddings, which is apparently the grosses insult there is, but not for serious photography. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: AF speed (was: Silly Photo.net thread)
Take a f2.8 telephoto lens, shoot a quick moving subject at f2.8 and f11 and see what the percentage of in focus shoots you get at both apertures. If they're both %100, find a more difficult subject. If they're both 0% find an easier subject. I already know the answer, because I've done it. --- Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But DOF is not an issue for focussing - the camera focusses wide open. It doesnt stop down until you take the shot. When you talk about the subject leaving the plane of focus before the shutter fires this is shutter lag. Lens performance aside, the camer always gets the subject in focus at f2.8 if it is an f2.8 lens. Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Consume yourself happy with instant gratification (WAS: Silly Photo.net thread)
I must get a different magazine to you because I would say that it carries very little about gear and morwe about locations to shoot! Alan (very confused!) -Original Message- From: Mick Maguire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 2:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Consume yourself happy with instant gratification (WAS: Silly Photo.net thread) Alan wrote: Is this the same magazine as we have in the UK called Outdoor Photography? The one where Andy Rouse uses a 645NII. Yup, and I agree with Pal on that one. I get said magazine and it seems mostly gear oriented (including SUV's), although there are very good columns by very good photographers interspersed. The article on taking a Jeep liberty on a photo-shoot in Arizona was a good example of what Pal was getting at I think. Regards, /\/\ick... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Consume yourself happy with instant gratification (WAS: Silly Photo.net thread)
Tiny little flowers, eh? I had one too, but it was a very early one, and was quite good. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California I had a Vivitar 135mm f/2.8 lens that was so bad I took the glass out of it and made a flower pot out of. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Consume yourself happy with instant gratification (WAS: Silly Photo.net thread)
Vivitar 75-205 f3.8 circa 1979 that was middle of the Vivitar line back then (less than the Series 1, more than the more common f4.5's). Nothing special performance, and about equivalent to a current $125 70-200. Not something worth having the lens mount converted, IMO. --- Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps this would be easier to understand for me if you could give me a sampling of the ones you've used that were optically poor. After all, your assumption is based on having used at least one of them, right? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re:: 6x7 questions
Tom wrote: Well, I *like* the dimensions, I think 6x4.5 is about perfect, and 6x7 is too square. I agree. 67 is too square to my taste. 35mm is too rectangular. 645 is perfect. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: OT: Oh, I get it...
On 11 Mar 2002 at 8:07, Aaron Reynolds wrote: Was there an M series 35mm f2.0? I'd be up for one of those, too. Yeah, there was. It was good, too. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Consume yourself happy with instant gratification (WAS: Silly Photo.net thread)
Alan wrote: Is this the same magazine as we have in the UK called Outdoor Photography? The one where Andy Rouse uses a 645NII. Not that's Outdoor Photography (British). Outdoor Photographer (US) is another magazine. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Consume yourself happy with instant gratification (WAS: Silly Photo.net thread)
Theres a significant difference. Photo.net isn't supposed to be a brand oriented or indeed a equipment oriented forum. In fact, they goes to great length saying that this vs. that brand is unwanted. This is just fluff of course. In reality its only the way it's done that has been changed. I've nothing against fandom or brand loyality as long as it is presented as such. I don't go to a Pentax forum believing I'll get a fair assessment on Pentax vs. Nikon. It's just the ulterior motives behind what's presented as fact on Photo.net that makes it so funny. Pål Shel wrote: And how is Photo.net different than any mailing list that espouses a particular brand of cameras and attenuate accessories. There's an awful lot of enabling going on on this list, and not only for the 67 cameras. IMO, the truth is that the internet encourages consumerism in these instances, with groups of people with similar interests getting together and, essentially, congratulating one another on their cleverness. I see it on the Leica list, the CV list, the RF list, and so on. Individuals now often make buying decisions based on touts from their own group - after all, who knows a particular brand of product better than the people who use it, notwithstanding the fact that many of those users may not be familiar or experienced with similar, competing products. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #2292
Yeah, I know. What I meant is it seems like it was rather a norm back in 80s (not that I remeber that that well) to make interchangeable finders on higher end cameras (OM, Nikon Fs, LX -- you name it) and it definitely is an exception now. I don't get it. It is so damn convenient, especially for those low-angle, your camera upside-down on a tripod macro kinds of shots. If nothing else, this is a good enough reason for me to keep the action finder for LX. Did I mention I love FE-1 with its huge picture? Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 08:37:17 -0600 From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Oh, I get it... Oh, and with all that discussion about viewfinders -- it totally escapes me why the removable finders in 35mm format are gone with LX and F3. The F5 has interchangable finders. I expect the F4 did as well. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
the tamron 70-210 - I put it on ebay...
... Since I got no nibbles from you guys. Its Adaptal-2 adapter (as those of you who have too much time on your hands and read everything on PDML) being for MINOLTA is listed under lenses for same - but in the description I mentioned it could be removed and changed to Pentax and others, of course. For those who told me what camera it went on, here is a chuckle - if I had looked at back of the rear cap it says Minolta right on it... no magnifier needed on my part. Duh. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1338721773 things are slw on ebay _ I started the lens at $30.00 , which is what I understand the approximate price is for the Adaptal-2 alone. NO reserve and no BIN. annsan gambles. Ta, annsan - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: AF speed
I had a ZX-5 (Actually still do, my 9 year old uses it like a MZ - no AF). The N80 is a bit better, but still limited by the AF motor. The F100 is a whole 'nuther ballgame. If I know I'm going to need fast AF, or the light is low I don't use the N80 so I don't run up against its limits as often as I did with the ZX. --- Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday, March 11, 2002, at 08:56 AM, Pål Audun Jensen wrote: Perhaps Bruce can enlighten us about the details of his head to head with the Z-1p and 28-105 vs. the Nikon body he used and Nikkor 28-105. -Aaron Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Consume yourself happy with instant gratification (WAS:Silly Photo.net thread)
Just because something's supposed to be one way, doesn't mean in reality it is. IAC, since Photo.net seems to have a disposition towards certain brands, it is, as I suggested, no different than equipment oriented forums, regardless of how it's supposed to be. IAC, my comment was more generally directed to consumerism on the internet than specific situations. Certain circumstances were mentioned only as examples. Consumerism, brand bias, peer pressure, and the like, may even be greater on the net than it is in the general population. Certainly it's quite strong. Pål Audun Jensen wrote: Theres a significant difference. Photo.net isn't supposed to be a brand oriented or indeed a equipment oriented forum. In fact, they goes to great length saying that this vs. that brand is unwanted. This is just fluff of course. In reality its only the way it's done that has been changed. I've nothing against fandom or brand loyality as long as it is presented as such. I don't go to a Pentax forum believing I'll get a fair assessment on Pentax vs. Nikon. It's just the ulterior motives behind what's presented as fact on Photo.net that makes it so funny. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Hello and a lens question
I'm all for security, however did you get the cop's information, badge, etc. under the constitution they are not allowed to confiscate anything from you without compensation. If they did you should file a complaint with their superiors. This seems like stupid officiousness to me and should be challenged. At 05:20 PM 3/9/2002 -0500, you wrote: Thanks everyone for the input. To close the story, I showed the lenses to a guy in a local store and his opinion was that it's fungus. In both. I am returning them first thing monday. On an unrelated topic: today I went shooting to check out these two lenses, to Charlestown (I live in Boston area). There's quite a spectacular industrial view: a multi-tier highway, a huge (almost finished) bridge, with Boston downtown skyline as a background. I was taking pictures when a guy came by and told me that I have walked into a restricted construction area where no pictures is allowed. I said sorry, and moved back a dozen feet away, where's a public park. Then I went on shooting from the park, under the bridge, when the same guy together with 3 or 4 cops stopped me, searched me, wrote down everything from my driver's license, asked a lot of questions and took the film from the camera. They admitted that from where I was, it wasn't prohibited to shoot -- but the highway and the bridge is sensitive area, and the argument ended there. I guess what I want to say, now that I am at home, after a drink -- I'm happy I'm not an arab... Just needed to share with someone. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Consume yourself happy with instant gratification (WAS:Silly Photo.net thread)
Spending money on camera equipment is consumerism when you buy Nikon and Canon (because you're stupid), and isn't when you buy Pentax (because you're smart). Pal just wants the people on pnoto.net to be smarter. --- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IAC, my comment was more generally directed to consumerism on the internet than specific situations. Certain circumstances were mentioned only as examples. Consumerism, brand bias, peer pressure, and the like, may even be greater on the net than it is in the general population. Certainly it's quite strong. Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX is dressed up to go out thanks to Peter
Does that thing get in the way when you are shooting? William, No, thankfully it doesn't. I wondered about that, too. where I grip the camera is well below where the strap attaches so there's no problem. I was worried at first that I had set the lug to far back on the grip itself so that when it was attached to the camera the strap would rub...but I forgot that the grip is actually proud of the surface when mounted to the body (not flush) so this gives a little wiggle room for the strap to hang freely. Brendan MacRae - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #2292
- Original Message - From: Mike Ignatiev Subject: Re: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #2292 Yeah, I know. What I meant is it seems like it was rather a norm back in 80s (not that I remeber that that well) to make interchangeable finders on higher end cameras (OM, Nikon Fs, LX -- you name it) and it definitely is an exception now. I don't get it. It is so damn convenient, especially for those low-angle, your camera upside-down on a tripod macro kinds of shots. If nothing else, this is a good enough reason for me to keep the action finder for LX. Did I mention I love FE-1 with its huge picture? There have actually been very few 35mm cameras with interchangable finders. The entire Nikon F line (F, F2, F3, F4, F5) has had interchangable finders. The Canon F1 series, which i believe comprised 3 different models over the years, a few Topcons, and I think the Minolta XK are the only 35mm SLR cameras other than the LX to have removable finders. There may be a few others, but it was never a feature that sold in great numbers, I expect because of the effect it had on either the price of the camera, or viewfinder accuracy, these being closely related criteria. I don't think Olympus OM had an interchangable viewfinder camera. I had an OM-1 and an OM-2s, both had fixed prisms William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Consume yourself happy with instant gratification (WAS: Silly Photo.net thread)
On Monday, March 11, 2002, at 09:29 AM, William Robb wrote: I had a Vivitar 135mm f/2.8 lens that was so bad I took the glass out of it and made a flower pot out of. HAR! Now THAT is a lens review. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Soft Release for LX and MX
Any you can use it as a lapel pin! (AFAHMISP). At 05:51 PM 3/9/2002 -0800, you wrote: Don't complain too much about the price of a genuine Pentax softie ... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1336752690 William Robb wrote: Paul, it may or may not be that different. If it meets the criteria that Shel listed, then you got a hell of a good bargain, if the intention is to use it on an LX. I actually quite like the new style LX shutter release as it comes from the factory. Unfortunately, two of my LX's are the old style release, which is not as nice. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Odd binocular
Isn't that really technically a monocular? At 08:26 PM 3/9/2002 -0500, you wrote: Read the note on this ad. Weirdest looking binocular I've ever seen :-) http://www.pentax.com/products/cameras/camera_pricelist.cfm?productid=15722 Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: AF speed
I can say the MZ-3 does a very good job in low light and consistantly gets me sharp photos of performers in nightclubs. I have been there with other photographers that used canon, nikon nad minolta systems and in comparison it is equal or better than the similar priced models. This is with the spot beam on th AF500 at times and yes I have thought some photos would be out of focus just to be surprised when they turned out to be in foucs on the print. I also noticed that some lenses are just plain dogs AF speed wise ( 28-80, sigma 70-300 ) while others are much faster like the sigma 28-105 IF and toikna 400 ATX ( which focuses faster than the F 50mm F1.7 ) --- Bruce Rubenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a ZX-5 (Actually still do, my 9 year old uses it like a MZ - no AF). The N80 is a bit better, but still limited by the AF motor. The F100 is a whole 'nuther ballgame. If I know I'm going to need fast AF, or the light is low I don't use the N80 so I don't run up against its limits as often as I did with the ZX. --- Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday, March 11, 2002, at 08:56 AM, Pål Audun Jensen wrote: Perhaps Bruce can enlighten us about the details of his head to head with the Z-1p and 28-105 vs. the Nikon body he used and Nikkor 28-105. -Aaron Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . __ Find, Connect, Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: AF speed (was: Silly Photo.net thread)
I used trap focus with the ZX-5, which drops motor/lens speed out of the equation, and the plane of focus still falls behind where the subject is when the shutter fires. --- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Focus is also dependant on how fast the subject moves after the camera has confimed focus and begins the exposure cycle, as after the mirror starts to move, AF measurment is impossible. Predictive AF is the camera guessing about where the subject will be, based on where the subject has been. It may or may not be accurate. Most likely, not. Oh yes, since it is a mechanism, there must be an element of slop involved to allow the moving parts to move. Not much, but we are talking about wavelengths of light as being the limiting factor for allowable error. Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: You with the Speed Graphic
Looks like you did. At 12:40 AM 3/10/2002 -0500, gfen wrote: On Sat, 9 Mar 2002, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1336923602 OK, I can't resist at least TRYING for this thing... -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: AF280T and M lenses
Yes just set it to M H or L and the finder check to OFF. At 06:22 PM 3/9/2002 -0500, you wrote: I now have the above mentioned flash and a M50mm f 1.7 on my newly aquired Super Program.If i understand the flash manual,i would only be able to use the flash in manula mode and no auto modes??Is this correct. Dave Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 6x7 Problem
I've been pretty busy the past few months, and have'nt taken as many photos as I would have liked. What I did during that period was with my SuperProgram or my Spotmatics, rather than my old non-MLU 6x7. Over the weekend I had a project for which I wanted to use the 6x7. I had the metering prism finder on the camera, and the needle was pegged to the top of its range, no mater what speed and aperture I used. I replaced the battery with a fresh one, but the result was the same. While fiddling around with the camera, I noticed that occasionally, when I touched the disk on the finder on which the shutter speeds are marked, the needle would suddenly pop back into the proper range, usually just momentarily, but once or twice for a second or two as I held my left finger on the disk. Has anyone had this strange behavior before? Any ideas what the problem might be and what the solution could be? I shot a roll of Supra with the waist level finder and a hand-held meter just to make sure it was the finder that was the only problem, and that there wasn't also a problem in the body as well. It will take a few days to get the film back. Any thoughts and advice will be gratefully appreciated. Dan -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: OT: Oh, I get it...
Pål, I guess I should clarify more. The only reason that I mentioned the Limiteds is because of optical quality along with reasonable size/weight. It would mean for me, changing from FA 85 to 77 Limited and getting rid of FA 28, 35 and getting the 31 Limited. Then the kit would probably be Fisheye 17-35, FA 20, 31 Limited, 43 Limited, 77 Limited, FA 100 Macro and FA 200. Bruce Dayton Monday, March 11, 2002, 5:16:12 AM, you wrote: PAJ Bruce wrote: Perhaps it is time to get the companion limiteds to keep my 43 company and sell off some of the other stuff. What to do... PAJ Well, personally I got more critical after starting using medium format. So PAJ now my 35mm lenses better be good to make me happy. I try to get the best PAJ out of my 35mm system by using the best lenses. In that way I won't be that PAJ sorry when I have a good shot on 35mm instead of on MF. PAJ Pål PAJ - PAJ This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, PAJ go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to PAJ visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: I want LX!
On Sunday, March 10, 2002, at 06:12 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: It's funny, for I've been a champion of the LX for quite some time. It is a lovely camera. But since I've obtained a really sweet example of the MX, the LX gets less and less use. I briefly played with Frank's MX at the PDML Toronto meet. It was really quite nice, felt good in the hands, and the motor drive was much more substantial than the winder ME II I have for my ME Super. I'd probably be really tempted if I saw one for sale at a good price. Still, I really love the meter in my LX, and I've come to trust it more than any other TTL meter I've ever used. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: AF speed (was: Silly Photo.net thread)
Any difference must be due to AF innacuracy, shutter lag or a wrong prediction being masked by the DOF. IF the AF SPEED was not good enough then the shutter would not have fired as it would not have achieved FOCUS WIDE OPEN. The shot taken at F11 was still focussed as far as the camera was concerned before the aperture blades were closed - ie at f2.8. -Original Message- From: Bruce Rubenstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 March 2002 14:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: AF speed (was: Silly Photo.net thread) Take a f2.8 telephoto lens, shoot a quick moving subject at f2.8 and f11 and see what the percentage of in focus shoots you get at both apertures. If they're both %100, find a more difficult subject. If they're both 0% find an easier subject. I already know the answer, because I've done it. --- Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But DOF is not an issue for focussing - the camera focusses wide open. It doesnt stop down until you take the shot. When you talk about the subject leaving the plane of focus before the shutter fires this is shutter lag. Lens performance aside, the camer always gets the subject in focus at f2.8 if it is an f2.8 lens. Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Buying/Selling online vs Buying/Selling offline
The short answer is all of the above. The long answer is that it depends. Sometimes you can get a better price only, sometimes offline. You can dicker offline and your buy/sell price is to some extent based upon how well you do that. Online prices seem to be take it or leave it in the case of listings, and dependent on how badly someone else wants it in the case of auctions. Location and availability drive offline prices. Availability is higher online, but that is offset by people who are out of your local market driving prices up or down. It amazed me how quickly some of the lenses I had on my website sold. It amazes me that I have not had a nibble on the 28mm despite having it listed cheaper than both local and online competitors. The 50/f2 is a bit high and I will probably drop it some. The 28/3.5 Takumar lens hood is a bit of a collectors item and I would expect it to take awhile to sell. The website is my first online selling experience. So, as I said, in the short answer, there is no particular answer. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Alexandre Gaudeul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 8:21 AM Subject: Buying/Selling online vs Buying/Selling offline I have seen very interesting discussion here about how the ability to trade photographic equipment online has affected the way you, and camera outfits, do business (buying, selling your gear). I was especially interested by how this benefits camera outfits (they can offer more trade in, sell their stock quicker) but also how this steals business from them. I was also interested by the advantages for buyers (They have more choice at better (?) price), and disadvantages (they do not get to manipulate the product) I would like to have some of your opinions on how different the prices are online and offline, and where the difference stems from. For example, have you ever been able to negotiate offline a price down (if you were the buyer) or up (if you were the seller), or was the price a take it or leave it offer ? Do you think it is easier and less costly (in terms of reputation and hassle) to return a good you were not happy with online or offline ? Do you think you get better deals as a buyer or a seller online or offline ? What do you look at when trying to know if you made a good deal or a bad deal ? What type of strategies have you seen used by camera experts (like you or your preferred camera dealer) to take advantage of any possible discrepancy between the two ways to buy and sell camera and lenses ? I already have gained much insight from your discussions, but i would be happy to see if there are something I missed or you would like to add in that debate. My motive for asking all this is economic research as i am doing a thesis on how internet changes the way to do business. I am also a Pentax user, as some of you may know. Alexandre Gaudeul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX vs MX vs KX (was Re: I want LX!)
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, gfen wrote: The LX is out of the question. I'm not spending that much, but I notice people continually chatting up the KX and the MX, and was wondering which one people tend to prefer. I was intrigued by some messages in the best body thread going around that the KX has got all the features of the LX, except for the metering. I should've mentioned, also, that price DOES play a big part of this. I don't want to spend a ton of cash on anything, because I can't really imagine needing anything higher end. My ZX-5n does everything I need it to, I just want an alternate body, and am considering things besides the ZX-M, which is the fall back choice. -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re:LX is dressed up to go out thanks to
Brendan has accurately replicated the positioning of the top lug on the LX2000. A Top Bloke. Kind regards Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: LX vs MX vs KX
gfen wrote: I'm considering another body to add to my collection (actually, to replace the ZX-50, which gets passed on to a friend). The LX is out of the question. I'm not spending that much, but I notice people continually chatting up the KX and the MX, and was wondering which one people tend to prefer. I was intrigued by some messages in the best body thread going around that the KX has got all the features of the LX, except for the metering. Well, neither the KX nor the MX has automatic exposure or any kind of TTL flash capability. They both have cloth focal plane shutters that are limited to 1/1000 sec as their fastest speed. The KX can't take a winder or motor drive (unless you can find the rare and pricey motor drive version). The MX has an optional winder (2 fps) and a motor drive (5 fps) if you can find them. The MX doesn't have mirror lock-up (although you cantrick it into doing so with a little practice). But they're both great cameras: I have two MXs and one KX ;-) An MX with a 43/1.9 is a gerat almost-pocket-sized kit. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: You with the Speed Graphic
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Christian Skofteland wrote: You think that's bad. A friend of mine just bought a set of bagpipes from eBay. whilst intoxicated! See, that I'd be very proud of... -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS: Super Program body, ME II winder, winder cord, front grip
I've lowered my asking prices and I'm offering these items again, together (discounts possible) or individually: -- A Super Program camera body in full working condition, including the accessory front grip, a body cap, and an original instruction manual. This body is well used, and has a significant abrasion and small crack on the top left (looking at front of camera) of the top plate chrome, on the edge past the wind lever and exposure window. The crack, which was there when I purchased this camera, has had some sealant applied to it at some point in the past, and this damage has no effect on operation and causes no light leakage. I had something invovling the wind mechanism replaced in this camera about a year ago. I can have photos of this camera body available in the next week or so if I get inquiries. The rest of the body has some small nicks and marks, but looks good overall. $100 plus shipping to list members. -- A Pentax Winder ME II, in perfect condition. It was essentially new in the box when I got it a couple of years ago, and it has only seen light use since then. It includes the box (even the styrofoam inserts in the box), the instruction manual, and it even has the little cap that covers the remote cord terminal. It fits the ME, MV-1, MG, ME-F, ME Super, Program Plus, Super Program, P5, and P50 cameras. Takes four AA batteries. Up to 2 fps in consecutive mode. $75 plus shipping to list members. -- The Remote Control Cord for the ME II winder (it also fits the LX winder), which is new in the box and even has the original twist tie still on the wrapped cord. Pentax lists it as 5 meters long. $25 plus shipping to list members. -- A front grip that fits the Super Program (Super A) or Program Plus (Program A), in fine condition. $10 plus shipping for list members. Joe -- Joe Wilensky Staff Writer Media and Technology Services - Cornell University 1150 Comstock Hall Ithaca, NY 14853-0901 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: 607-255-1575 fax: 607-255-9873 Please visit our Web site at http://www.mediasrv.cornell.edu - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Consume yourself happy with instant gratification (WAS: Silly Photo.net thread)
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Pål Audun Jensen wrote: If you really want a low impression of the photo.net readership, go read the article about his (philip greenspun's) Acura NSX. I think it may be on philip.greenspun.com by now. dave -- dave o'brien - http://www.diaspoir.net So I'm ugly. So what? I never saw anyone hit with his face. -- Yogi Berra - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Consume yourself happy with instant gratification (WAS: Silly Photo.net thread)
Mick wrote: Yup! Doh! I knew I shouldnt have chipped in! Regards, /\/\ick... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Oh, I get it...
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Aaron Reynolds wrote: Yep, Chris ain't the only one who's brought his 67 to a party for snapshots. Snapshots, *ptui* My 6x7 gets used in darkened pubs. dave -- dave o'brien - http://www.diaspoir.net I called my parents the other night, but I forgot about the time difference. They're still living in the fifties. -- Strange de Jim - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Oh, I get it...
Here you go: you just named 4 brands (although I got OM wrong). Now F5 is the only game in town, and that *is* a behemoth of a camera. Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 09:38:42 -0600 From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #2292 - - Original Message - From: Mike Ignatiev Subject: Re: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #2292 Yeah, I know. What I meant is it seems like it was rather a norm back in 80s (not that I remeber that that well) to make interchangeable finders on higher end cameras (OM, Nikon Fs, LX -- you name it) and it definitely is an exception now. I don't get it. It is so damn convenient, especially for those low-angle, your camera upside-down on a tripod macro kinds of shots. If nothing else, this is a good enough reason for me to keep the action finder for LX. Did I mention I love FE-1 with its huge picture? There have actually been very few 35mm cameras with interchangable finders. The entire Nikon F line (F, F2, F3, F4, F5) has had interchangable finders. The Canon F1 series, which i believe comprised 3 different models over the years, a few Topcons, and I think the Minolta XK are the only 35mm SLR cameras other than the LX to have removable finders. There may be a few others, but it was never a feature that sold in great numbers, I expect because of the effect it had on either the price of the camera, or viewfinder accuracy, these being closely related criteria. I don't think Olympus OM had an interchangable viewfinder camera. I had an OM-1 and an OM-2s, both had fixed prisms William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX vs MX vs KX
And an MX with a K35/3.5 or an M50/2.0 *is* pretty much a pocket-sized kit g. Mark Roberts wrote: An MX with a 43/1.9 is a gerat almost-pocket-sized kit. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: AF speed
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Aaron Reynolds wrote: Perhaps Bruce can enlighten us about the details of his head to head with the Z-1p and 28-105 vs. the Nikon body he used and Nikkor 28-105. It's been my (albeit limited) experience with Nikons that they'll focus on something in the viewfinder with very little hunting. Whether they focus on the right thing, I couldn't say - My Nikon using friend could produce equally sharp and well composed pictures with my MZ-5 as with his Nikons. I'd be far more inclined to blame different final results with user error than with camera error. dave -- dave o'brien - http://www.diaspoir.net Familiarity breeds contempt -- and children. -- Mark Twain - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Hams awake!
Just to balance things out, I let mine lapse. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Paris, Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 7:06 AM Subject: RE: Hams awake! Congratulations, Collin! Len - KD9S --- -Original Message- From: Collin Brendemuehl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 4:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hams awake! I passed my Tech test today. Now just gotta wait for the paperwork. Who are the rest of US, the true bubbahood? Post your call signs, please. Thanks, Collin * Get over it. Dr. Laura --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Consume yourself happy with instant gratification (WAS: Silly Photo.net thread)
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Pål Audun Jensen wrote: One example of this is that a rank amateur considering a Pentax MZ-5n should buy a Nikon or a Canon because you can't rent a Pentax 600/4 in Florida. It is of course of no consequence to this rational argument that 99,99% of the worlds population have never been to Florida or that 99,99% of Pentax users in Florida never considers renting a 600/4. This is one of the more bizarre photo.net arguments. You can't rent Pentax gear. So what? I, personally, have never rented any camera gear at all. In the monumentally unlikely circumstances that I'd need to rent a 600/4 lens for something, I'm sure I could rent the Nikon or Canon body as easily as the lens. Of course I could always buy one for my 6x7 and use it on my MX with the 6x7 adapter, which is not something you can say for Nikkor (or Canon) lenses. dave -- o'brien - http://www.diaspoir.net To love is good, love being difficult. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
super-wide-angle options?
All, I'd like to add super-wide-angle capability to my photo setup. I've been mulling over the options, and I'm hoping to get some advice from the list. I'd like to go rectilinear rather than fisheye, and here are the options I'm considering: Cheap: -- Vivitar 19mm or Russian/Ukranian 20mm (are either of these worth considering?) Medium: --- Tokina 20-35 zoom (in the $200's) Used SMC-M 20mm F4 (around $350) Expensive: -- SMC-A or FA 20mm F2.8 ($400-500) FA 20-35mm F4 ($450?) Insanely Expensive --- Used SMC or SMC-A 15mm ($750-900) With the above options in mind, here are my questions: 1) Are the MIR or Vivitars even worth considering? 2) Is the Pentax 20-35 that much better than the Tokina? 3) Are the primes that much better than the zooms? 4) Anyone out there have experience with the 15mm? Thanks a lot in advance! TTYL, --Mark (KE6NJ, inactive for more than a decade) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX vs MX vs KX (was Re: I want LX!)
The MX is lighter than the KX. Both have real similar features but you can change out the screens on the MX. KX has a higher ISO range. Were it me, I have to say I'd wait and spend a little more for the LX. It's a nearly perfect camera. Brendan MacRae - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MX viewfinder diopter: -1 or -0.5?
I guess I can't see what it matters. The viewfinder is set up to appear approximately one meter away. The diopter they had to use to do that is kind of irrelevant, it was an engineering decision. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 8:02 AM Subject: MX viewfinder diopter: -1 or -0.5? Hi, gang The manual says -1 but a brochure from its era says -0.5 What's the real diopter of MX viewfinder? Regards Albano - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re:LX is dressed up to go out thanks to
Peter... You know the old saying, Where there's a will, there's a crazy SOB willing to take power tools to his photo gear! Thanks again, man! Brendan MacRae - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: LX vs MX vs KX
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Mark Roberts wrote: Well, neither the KX nor the MX has automatic exposure or any kind of TTL flash capability. They both have cloth focal plane shutters that are limited to 1/1000 sec as their fastest speed. The KX can't take a winder or motor drive (unless you can find the rare and pricey motor drive version). The MX has an optional winder (2 fps) and a motor drive (5 fps) if you can find These are, for the most part, easily dispensed with. I don't mind winding by hand, and while I always end up with 400 speed film, and thus 1/1000 would be a bit confining, it just propels me to use slower film. them. The MX doesn't have mirror lock-up (although you cantrick it into doing so with a little practice). This is why I was leaning towards the KX, since none of the other reasonably priced ZX bodies contain this feature. :) I also figured that the viewfinder would be much nicer on one of the older bodies, verus the new. The other main concern with this is in regards to just how they use their batteries. Does these cameras need batteries to operate anything other than the light meter? -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Hams awake!
N9YBX. -R ! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX vs MX vs KX
Not for the MX. gfen wrote: The other main concern with this is in regards to just how they use their batteries. Does these cameras need batteries to operate anything other than the light meter? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Silly Photo.net thread
Wow.. there's a ton of (most likely) hand held 67 shots on there. And a fair amount of 35mm with 600mm/4. -R - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX vs MX vs KX (was Re: I want LX!)
Unless you want a smaller, lighter, simpler, and less expensive camera. A good LX is about 3X or more the price of a good MX ... that's more than a little more. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Were it me, I have to say I'd wait and spend a little more for the LX. It's a nearly perfect camera. --- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: AF speed
Mark, did you shoot in AF Servo mode or in Single AF mode? Just curious. Len --- -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 8:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: AF speed This is exactly what happened when I shot motorcycle racing last summer. I thought very few of my photos were in focus. When I got the slides done I found every one was in focus. I'm looking forward to shooting some more of this kind of stuff this year, but with the MZ-S this time. -- Mark Roberts - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: super-wide-angle options?
1 2 The Vivitar is better than the Tokina optically. The Tokina is not great. The Fa 20-35 is MUCH BETTER, as is the Sigma 17-35 EX for about the same price. Here, the Sigma gives greater range, and is f2.8 at 17mm, but the pentax is far more flare resistant than any 3rd party lens. For a prime lens I would SERIOUSLY consider the FA 24 f2.0. A good value combo might be rge FA 24 f2.0 and the Vivitar 19-35. This give flexibility and ultimate quality. -Original Message- From: Mark Erickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 March 2002 17:14 To: pentax-discuss Subject: super-wide-angle options? All, I'd like to add super-wide-angle capability to my photo setup. I've been mulling over the options, and I'm hoping to get some advice from the list. I'd like to go rectilinear rather than fisheye, and here are the options I'm considering: Cheap: -- Vivitar 19mm or Russian/Ukranian 20mm (are either of these worth considering?) Medium: --- Tokina 20-35 zoom (in the $200's) Used SMC-M 20mm F4 (around $350) Expensive: -- SMC-A or FA 20mm F2.8 ($400-500) FA 20-35mm F4 ($450?) Insanely Expensive --- Used SMC or SMC-A 15mm ($750-900) With the above options in mind, here are my questions: 1) Are the MIR or Vivitars even worth considering? 2) Is the Pentax 20-35 that much better than the Tokina? 3) Are the primes that much better than the zooms? 4) Anyone out there have experience with the 15mm? Thanks a lot in advance! TTYL, --Mark (KE6NJ, inactive for more than a decade) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Little Help with Super Program
I just got a nice Super Program! Looks great and now I'll be able to leave the screw mount adapter in my ME... Since it's one of the few Pentaxes for which there is no manual available for free on the Pentax website, could one of you folks help me with a couple of quick questions? 1. The little display on the top deck just below the mode switch/shutter release. What does it display, other than P for program mode and the shutter speed? There seems to be a little rectangular bar in the upper right hand corner of the display, what does this indicate? 2. There's what looks like a little button just below the PC socket on the left side of lens mount (left side as you look through the viewfinder). What does it do? Battery check? If not, where is the battery check and how does it indicate battery condition? 3. Anything else that might not be obvious to someone who's only used a K1000, MZ5, and an ME? Please respond directly as I am in digest mode and I'd like to burn some film in this puppy right now! Many thanks! Chris L. School Publications Guy - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 APO
I'll second that. It's the only non-pentax lens I use on a regular basis. Beautifully sharp, nicely constructed. Works fine on my MZ-S, unless I'm missing something. I just did some tests with it and a teleconverter, and I'll make some available via the web this week. -R - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax prices
The way Nikon and Canon got to be recognized is by giving equipment away to the wire services and major news media. Then you see their pros using the equipment and say. Wow, look all the pros are using Nikon and Canon, they must be the best. Information source: a former Nikon Rep who serviced the Washington, DC area doing just that. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Bruce Rubenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 9:24 AM Subject: Re: Pentax prices A pro body, in and of itself, won't do much good for image and increased sales. Witness the Maxxum 9, which hasn't changed the perception of Minolta as being a maker of mass market/amature cameras. Contax certainly makes cameras that some pros use, but that hasn't given them widespread name recognition among non-enthusasists. The way that Nikon and Canon have gotten pros to use their equipment is by making a suitable product and by supporting pros. This takes a solid product, an extensive product line (lenses), good repair facilities and the budget for the maker to pay for it. Even when Canon game out with their far advanced AF they had to spend a small fortune, up front, to get pros to switch. It's tough to get a sizeable portion of the 35mm pro market (Minolta gave up on it). A company may be able to sell a lot more non-pro, amature bodies, because they have the right name on it, but that's just cashing in on your investment. Pentax persued the 35mm pro market the same way they did the MF market by making a good product (LX) and letting it sell itself: doesn't work in the 35mm market. A highend image body, that's not widely used by pros, will be mostly noticed by people already using that camera brand. It won't get you many new customers. To the general public, all you need to look like a pro is a SLR, a big lens and flash and a camera bag. I am sure that there are people with the means who decide to get a camera, want the best and buy a $3,000 Nikon system with little idea of how to use it well. I'm sure Pentax would like to sell to that customer too: sales are sales. It takes a lot of time and money to establish that kind of reputation. --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your post got me to thinking, however. Could it be that the lack of a pro 35mm camera is the reason? I don't want to get into what a pro camera is (please!), but let's face it, when we see a PJ in a media scrum on the news, or on the street, he/she invariably has an F5 or an EOS. I'm sure that the public sees that as well. I think that the fact that Pentax really hasn't catered to pros (PJ's at least) since the LX has hurt Pentax immeasurably. Or, maybe the converse is true: the fact (or at least the perception) that PJ's use C and N almost exclusively is a huge marketing coup for those two companies. As wonderful and capable a body as the MZ S is, PJ's aren't using it - not surprising, because I don't think they are necessarily who it is aimed at. But it's also not surprising that the public thinks, Wanna look like a pro? I will if I buy C or N. Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: OT: Oh, I get it...
M 35/2.0? Yep! Was my most used lens back in the old days. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 8:07 AM Subject: Re: Re[2]: OT: Oh, I get it... On Monday, March 11, 2002, at 02:13 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote: I can say that I am re-evaluating my assortment of lenses for the 35mm. Previously I had been trying to build up the highest optical quality and full range that I could find - regardless of cost. Now I'm thinking of small and lightweight as the 67 covers high quality much better. My 35mm kit is oriented around two things -- lenses that are significantly faster than what I have in 67 (there's nothing slower than f2.8 in my 35mm kit now), and size. I'm semi-actively seeking an M series 50mm f1.4 in good shape to replace the one that, uh, had an unfortunate accident a while ago. Was there an M series 35mm f2.0? I'd be up for one of those, too. Actually, if anyone has either of those and wants to trade for a Pentax 2X-S in great shape (but no caps or box) or the dreaded M 28mm f2.8, drop me a line. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Antelope Canyon
Has anyone been to Antelope Canyon recently? It is located at Page, Arizona. I am hoping to visit it in late April. Can anyone give me any information such as price and procedures? I read in the internet that the entrance fee is collected at the gate ($10 for entering and then $10 every hour?). Thanks. Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX vs MX vs KX (was Re: I want LX!)
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The MX is lighter than the KX. Both have real similar features but you can change out the screens on the MX. KX has a higher ISO range. Does the KX have a split screen? Were it me, I have to say I'd wait and spend a little more for the LX. It's a nearly perfect camera. No interest in it, at all. If I were spending that much, I'd buy an MZ-S probably. Or med format camera. I think what holds my interest is a cheap body with MLU and one that doesn't have a serious reliance on battery power. I'd like to do some astrophotography someday. As I said, failing that, I'll get a ZX-M. -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: AF speed (was: Silly Photo.net thread)
...and use gaussian blur on the backgrond in PS. --- Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Set it to F 8 and it will be in focus :) Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
