Pentax Zoom

[James Adams]

Hi Paul,
Don't know if this got through, but I am having emails to you returned, so
will post this to PDML.

I was out with my Son this afternoon, and spotted some cameras in a
Jeweller's window. On entering the store, I saw a case full of S/H camera
gear near the back. In the corner I noticed a zoom mark Pentax, so asked to
see it. It was a Soligor 90-230 f4.5 with PX Adapter(has roller-manual
switch for DOF). As I already have the adapters for PS, PK and Nikon Pre-I,
this was a chance I couldn't miss, so I got it for CDN$82(Taxes inc.). Apart
from a minor repair and a missing Tripod Collar clamping screw, it is
perfect. It only took me 20 minutes to tighten the screws which were loose,
or had dropped out behind the collar.

I now have the following lenses to fit any of my PS, PK or Nikon Pre-AI
mount cameras:
Soligor 105mm f2.8 Telephoto
Vivitar 300mm f5.5 Telephoto
Vivitar 400mm f6.3 Telephoto (PX Adapter)
Soligor 90-230 f4.5 (PX Adapter)

 I'm hoping to get a Soligor or Vivitar equivalent  to of my PS Hoya HMC
70mm-150mm f3.8. Also I would like a Vivitar 24-80mm or 90mm zoom.
In all it's been a good day.
James
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Re: Bodies w/ Spot Metering?

[Steve Pearson]

Is it me, or is the Ricoh XR-M a copy of the SF1n?  Is
there not an older, manual focus Pentax body with spot
metering?  I guess I would like to stay with the
"feel" of the metal bodies made by Pentax.  What about
the Spotmatic bodies?

Again, thanks for all your help.  I'm still
undecided...


--- Nitin Garg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My ricoh xr-m has it (called xr-x in europe).
> xr-x3pf has already been
> mentioned. These 2 might be the only one IIRR. You
> can check up ricoh
> manuals online at
> http://www.butkus.org/chinon/index.html -- great
> site
> to read up on these k-mount underdogs. You do lose
> the A-setting. I am
> not sure but you could check it the chinon model
> that provides program
> on *any* k-mount lens might have a spot-meter.
> 
> 
> cheers,
> nitin
> 
> On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 05:03:05PM -0800, Steve
> Pearson wrote:
> > Do you have any specific Ricoh model numbers that
> you
> > can reference?  Are you sure that they will all
> accept
> > my Pentax lenses?  Wouldn't I lose some of the
> > metering (i.e. "A" settings) of my SMC-A lenses?
> > 
> > Thanks for the help...
> > 
> > 
> > --- Nitin Garg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Some Ricoh manual focus bodies have spot
> metering.
> > > And they are cheaper
> > > than pentax bodies too.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 04:18:53PM -0800, Steve
> > > Pearson wrote:
> > > > Hi all:
> > > > 
> > > > I'm looking for some reference help.  I
> currently
> > > own
> > > > a Super Program & various lenses.  I would
> like to
> > > add
> > > > a Pentax body that has spot metering.  Any
> > > suggestions
> > > > out there?  
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks for any info.!
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woo hoo

[tom]

This

http://www.bigdayphoto.com/tom/little_crow.html

is a picture I took at the University of Maryland with a Pentax lens.

Fear the turtle.

tv
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RE: OT venting anger with chain store

[Butch Black]

Unless Agfa XPS is the current amateur emulsion then it very well may be
"exotic" to Wal-Mart. The Agfa amateur films tend to change balance
significantly when they go to a   "new improved"  emulsion.  My normal Agfa
channels print OK but I have a customer that shoots a pro emulsion. I have
to print her stuff so it looks badly red in my monitor so it will print
correctly. I don't see enough of it to set up a separate channel for it.
Check on the back of the print. If you are lucky there will be a series of
N's, letters, and/or numbers printed. Those will give you any color or
density correction that were made (if any). From there, if you understand
color theory you can tell them what they need to do to get an acceptable
print.  Unfortunately most minilab operators for drug store, discount dept.,
and chain minilab/ camera stores, don't really know how to color correct, or
what a correct print is supposed to look like, so even if they are willing
they may not be able.

BUTCH

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Re: Bodies w/ Spot Metering?

[Nitin Garg]

My ricoh xr-m has it (called xr-x in europe). xr-x3pf has already been
mentioned. These 2 might be the only one IIRR. You can check up ricoh
manuals online at http://www.butkus.org/chinon/index.html -- great site
to read up on these k-mount underdogs. You do lose the A-setting. I am
not sure but you could check it the chinon model that provides program
on *any* k-mount lens might have a spot-meter.


cheers,
nitin

On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 05:03:05PM -0800, Steve Pearson wrote:
> Do you have any specific Ricoh model numbers that you
> can reference?  Are you sure that they will all accept
> my Pentax lenses?  Wouldn't I lose some of the
> metering (i.e. "A" settings) of my SMC-A lenses?
> 
> Thanks for the help...
> 
> 
> --- Nitin Garg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Some Ricoh manual focus bodies have spot metering.
> > And they are cheaper
> > than pentax bodies too.
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 04:18:53PM -0800, Steve
> > Pearson wrote:
> > > Hi all:
> > > 
> > > I'm looking for some reference help.  I currently
> > own
> > > a Super Program & various lenses.  I would like to
> > add
> > > a Pentax body that has spot metering.  Any
> > suggestions
> > > out there?  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks for any info.!
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> > Easter, Passover
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Re: Honeywell Pentax SL manual offered

[Stan Halpin]

Its yours.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 23:24:49 -0500
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: Honeywell Pentax SL manual offered
> 
> I'll take it if its still avail.
> You forgot to include your email addy.
> JCO
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stan Halpin
>> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 11:29 PM
>> To: PDML
>> Subject: Honeywell Pentax SL manual offered
>> 
>> 
>> Available to anyone who would like it - pay my cost, $.50, plus mailing.
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Re: Fast manual zoom for ME Super

[Stan Halpin]

Like he said. M100/2.8 is a very nice lens and a good focal length with
which to gain experience. Or even the M100/4.0 Macro. Only slightly more
expensive. You sacrifice some speed, but gain a quality foothold in the
world of macrophotography.

Stan

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 22:38:41 EST
> Subject: Re: Fast manual zoom for ME Super
> 
> Try a M 100mm f2.8 lens.  Small and not too expensive.
> 
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> <<  Alternatively, can you recommend a short telephoto that might fit
> the bill?  >>
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RE: Honeywell Pentax SL manual offered

[J. C. O'Connell]

I'll take it if its still avail.
You forgot to include your email addy.
JCO

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stan Halpin
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 11:29 PM
> To: PDML
> Subject: Honeywell Pentax SL manual offered
> 
> 
> Available to anyone who would like it - pay my cost, $.50, plus mailing.
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Honeywell Pentax SL manual offered

[Stan Halpin]

I was browsing through the "junk" box my local photo guy occasionally puts
out. One item that caught my eye was a slightly tattered August 1969 copy of
the SL manual.

One nice note: "No, we do not guarantee the quality of photographs when
brands other than Takumar lenses and Pentax accessories, such as lens
extenders, are used."

Available to anyone who would like it - pay my cost, $.50, plus mailing.

Contact me off list please.

Stan
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Re[2]: Fast manual zoom for ME Super

[Bruce Dayton]

I have one for sale for a friend if anyone is looking.  KEH Like New-
rating.


Bruce



Monday, April 01, 2002, 7:38:41 PM, you wrote:

Rac> Try a M 100mm f2.8 lens.  Small and not too expensive.

Rac> Regards,  Bob S.

Rac> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Rac> << Finally, the question: can anyone recommend a reasonably fast (f2.8-4)
Rac>  manual focus zoom lens (say 35-105mm), available secondhand and not costing
Rac>  the earth? Alternatively, can you recommend a short telephoto that might fit
Rac>  the bill?  >>
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Re: 67II prices in UK

[Bruce Dayton]

Mike,

B&H and Adorama are not particularly cheap when it comes to medium
format.  I believe it has to do with volume purchasing (or lack
thereof). My local dealer was almost the same price on MF gear so I
ended supporting them as they were able to demonstrate the equipment.
Harry's Pro Shop in Canada (http://harrysproshop.com) and the Caymen
Camera (http://www.caymancamera.com) are much more competitively
priced.


Bruce Dayton



Monday, April 01, 2002, 6:46:24 PM, you wrote:

MI> http://www.robertwhite.co.uk/pentax.htm
MI> That looks like half of what B&H quotes. Am I missing something?
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Re: Help: Looking for Brass Rings

[Stan Halpin]

Have you tried Porter's Camera? They have more gadgets and accessories than
you could imagine possible. And you can reach them online.

stan

> From: James Rupprecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 17:57:29 -0600
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Help: Looking for Brass Rings
> 
> I am looking to purchase three brass step-up rings... A 49->52, 58->62 and
> 67->72. Heliopan, B+W, etc I don't care what brand they are, just that
> they are brass. I can't find them locally, and none of the nationals have
> them all in stock. Anyone have a local dealer that they think would have
> them in stock (or available in a week or so)? IF so, can you send me their
> contact info off-list? Thanks in advance.
> 
> -jim
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OT Pictorico vrs Ilford Gallerie (was OT opinionswanted: which Epson papers

[Butch Black]

Does anyone know how the new Ilford Gallerie smooth gloss compares to
Pictorico Photo gallery glossy paper and glossy white film? I understand
they both use a microporus ceramic coating, is this correct? I love the
Pictorico line but their high prices and limited availability of bulk (100
sheet) packs are frustrating. If I can find something comparable at a more
reasonable price I'd be happy.

BUTCH

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Re: fungus

[moesg]

Joao,

I use the Silica Gel desiccant with indicator coloring for my equipment and 
negatives/slides. It seems to work well, I don't know much about the light but I would 
guess that you would want some thing with a fair amount of UV.  Those DC powered 
fluorescent bulbs or some of the new LED flash light technologies strike me as a way 
to provide light with minimal heat/power.  

BTW were do you live in Brazil? I am headed there this summer. 

Geoff

> Gentlemen
> There´s been a long time since my last email, but I´ve
> been watching the digest from time to time, and I´ve
> noticed that the list is getting bigger all the time.
> 
> Once again I need a favour: I read somewhere an
> article about someone who made a box (or small closet)
> to keep his cameras and lenses, and used a small
> electric lamp (always turned on) inside the box, to
> prevent from fungus.
> Can anyone give me a clue on how to build this (lamp
> power, effectiveness of the rig, etc)?
> Regards,
> 
> Joao
> 
> 
> 
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Re: fungus

[moesg]

Joao,

I use the Silica Gel desiccant with indicator coloring for my equipment and 
negatives/slides. It seems to work well, I don't know much about the light but I would 
guess that you would want some thing with a fair amount of UV.  Those DC powered 
fluorescent bulbs or some of the new LED flash light technologies strike me as a way 
to provide light with minimal heat/power.  

BTW were do you live in Brazil? I am headed there this summer. Do you have any 
interest in meeting if possible?

Geoff

> Gentlemen
> There´s been a long time since my last email, but I´ve
> been watching the digest from time to time, and I´ve
> noticed that the list is getting bigger all the time.
> 
> Once again I need a favour: I read somewhere an
> article about someone who made a box (or small closet)
> to keep his cameras and lenses, and used a small
> electric lamp (always turned on) inside the box, to
> prevent from fungus.
> Can anyone give me a clue on how to build this (lamp
> power, effectiveness of the rig, etc)?
> Regards,
> 
> Joao
> 
> 
> 
>___
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> O trabalho dos seus sonhos pode estar aqui. Cadastre-se hoje mesmo no Yahoo! 
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Re: Fast manual zoom for ME Super

[Rfsindg]

Try a M 100mm f2.8 lens.  Small and not too expensive.

Regards,  Bob S.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Finally, the question: can anyone recommend a reasonably fast (f2.8-4)
 manual focus zoom lens (say 35-105mm), available secondhand and not costing
 the earth? Alternatively, can you recommend a short telephoto that might fit
 the bill?  >>
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Re: FA 28-105 or FA 28-70 ?

[Paul Stenquist]

That's after the armageddon, right?

Brendan wrote:
> 
> Here is right the corner of the lens at 28mm
> 
> http://webhome.idirect.com/~trini/photo/17.jpg
> 
> --- T Rittenhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > That sounds like a tilted lens element or more
> > likely group. That would only
> > happen in a defective lens. If you sold it to him
> > new. Send it in for
> > warrenty service or replacement.
> >
> > Ciao,
> > Graywolf
> > http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto
> >
> 
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 2:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: FA 28-105 or FA 28-70 ?
> >
> >
> > > On Sunday, March 31, 2002, at 09:40  PM, wendy
> > beard wrote:
> > >
> > > > Looks and feels tons better than some of the
> > Pentax zoom offerings
> > > > (eeek, did I just say that?)
> > >
> > > I'll certainly give it that.  It is entirely
> > possible, too, that I've
> > > merely seen two horrendous samples and Wendy has a
> > good one, or that
> > > maybe Wendy hasn't shot under the right conditions
> > to see Brendan's
> > > amazing Gumby Distortion(tm).  The lamp post bows
> > in two different
> > > directions at once!
> > >
> > > -Aaron
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Re: Closet-LX

[Paul Stenquist]

Alan Chan wrote:
> Rusting inside possibly. Sticky mirror for sure.
> 

I have never seen nor heard of an LX that "rusted inside" or anywhere
else. Any camera that has been in storage for a long time is probably
due for a CLA, and I'm sure that this LX is no exception. But it is
probably a very good buy, since it should be in good cosmetic and
mechanical condition.
Paul Stenquist
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Re: 67II prices in UK

[Mike Ignatiev]

ooops...
the prices are in pounds... silly me, should have set the encoding
correctly.

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 9:46 PM
Subject: 67II prices in UK


> http://www.robertwhite.co.uk/pentax.htm
> That looks like half of what B&H quotes. Am I missing something?
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Re: Fast Med Telephoto needed...

[Paul Stenquist]

I don't know of any locale where it is easy to rent Pentax gear. Pentax
is not the stock-in-trade of the professional community. Therefore, it
is generally not available as a rental. How fast is your fastest medium
telephoto? Shoot faster film and use a monopod.
Paul

Timothy Sherburne wrote:
> 
> Hello all...
> 
> I need to beg, borrow or rent a fast K-mount medium telephoto in the
> Portland, Oregon area, preferably a 135/1.8 or 200/2.8. My brother has a
> stage performance next month that I'd like to photograph.
> 
> The counter guy at the "pro" shop that I thought would be the most likely to
> lease something like this just gave me a flat "no" when I inquired
> (Citizen's Photo). Is Portland the equivalent to the Sahara when it comes to
> renting Pentax gear?
> 
> t
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67II prices in UK

[Mike Ignatiev]

http://www.robertwhite.co.uk/pentax.htm
That looks like half of what B&H quotes. Am I missing something?
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Re: fungus

[Angel Ramos]

The best way to go, as I did , is to buy or construct a completely 
sealed chamber ( mine is about 36cm by 36cm, by 39cm) with a seal fitted 
door.   I bought a dessicator chamber from Fisher Scientific, there 
should be a laboratory equipment seller in your country,  I also bought 
a 500g bottle of indicating silica gel, which can be re generated in an 
oven at 130 C or , as I do, I use the microwave oven. ( 2 minutes cycle 
on high power, repeated until the stuff is back to deep blue color) . 
 Having a lamp in a small cabinet could be dangerous because of 
temperature concerns and fire hazard due to shortcircuits.  If you want 
more information email me off list.

Angel Ramos
Arecibo Puerto Rico


João Moreira wrote:

>Gentlemen
>There´s been a long time since my last email, but I´ve
>been watching the digest from time to time, and I´ve
>noticed that the list is getting bigger all the time.
>
>Once again I need a favour: I read somewhere an
>article about someone who made a box (or small closet)
>to keep his cameras and lenses, and used a small
>electric lamp (always turned on) inside the box, to
>prevent from fungus.
>Can anyone give me a clue on how to build this (lamp
>power, effectiveness of the rig, etc)?
>Regards,
>
>Joao
>
>
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Re: fungus

[Angel Ramos]

The best way to go, as I did , is to buy or construct a completely 
sealed chamber ( mine is about 36cm by 36cm, by 39cm) with a seal fitted 
door.   I bought a dessicator chamber from Fisher Scientific, there 
should be a laboratory equipment seller in your country,  I also bought 
a 500g bottle of indicating silica gel, which can be re generated in an 
oven at 130 C or , as I do, I use the microwave oven. ( 2 minutes cycle 
on high power, repeated until the stuff is back to deep blue color) . 
 Having a lamp in a small cabinet could be dangerous because of 
temperature concerns and fire hazard due to shorcircuits.  If you want 
more information email me off list.

Angel Ramos
Arecibo Puerto Rico


João Moreira wrote:

>Gentlemen
>There´s been a long time since my last email, but I´ve
>been watching the digest from time to time, and I´ve
>noticed that the list is getting bigger all the time.
>
>Once again I need a favour: I read somewhere an
>article about someone who made a box (or small closet)
>to keep his cameras and lenses, and used a small
>electric lamp (always turned on) inside the box, to
>prevent from fungus.
>Can anyone give me a clue on how to build this (lamp
>power, effectiveness of the rig, etc)?
>Regards,
>
>Joao
>
>
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>O trabalho dos seus sonhos pode estar aqui. Cadastre-se hoje mesmo no Yahoo! Empregos 
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Re: Fast Med Telephoto needed...

[b_rubenstein]

Portland is like every other place in North America: you 
can't rent Pentax 35mm gear. If you really want a lens 
like this for the night, plan on renting a body to go 
with the lens. Nikon and Canon both have good 70/80 - 
200/2.8 zooms. A sharper, lighter Nikon lens is the 
180/2.8. Canon has a 200/?? (something fast). For a 
stage performance I would probably first look at Canon 
to get an IS lens. Just make sure that you are 
comfortable with the body, regardless of brand. You 
should feel right at home with a MF Nikon body.


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Re: O T Venting anger with chain store

[William Robb]

- Original Message -
From: T Rittenhouse
Subject: Re: O T Venting anger with chain store


> I had to look on the Agfa website to ID this film. "Agfa
Portrait 160". Not
> a film a quick print lab would be familiar with. A pro lab, if
they do Agfa
> at all, would probably have a channel for it.

I didn't know what the acronym was. I have processed the
Portrait 160. Nice film.
William Robb
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April PUG

[William Robb]

The April 2002 edition of the Pentax Users Gallery is now
available for your viewing pleasure.
Regards

William Robb
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Re[2]: O T Venting anger with chain store

[Paul F. Stregevsky]

How about this dialog, which I had with a woman at the counter of a mall 
1-hour store in 1990:

ME: Do you sell Kodak EktaPress 1600?

SHE: No, sir, Kodak doesn't make EktaPress in 1600. Just 100 and 400.

ME: Oh, they do. It's been my standard film for at least a year or two.

SHE: No, sir, you're mistaken.

Later, I wished I had said, "Then if I can produce a box of it for you here 
within a couple days, will you pay me a hundred dollars?"

But that was nothing compared to a telephone dialog I had in late 1991 or 
early '92 with a salesman at Penn Camera:

ME: Hi, do you have any used Olympus OM-4Ti's?

HE: No, sir, but you must remember, that camera just came out. There won't 
be many used ones out there yet.

ME: No, the OM-4Ti came out in 1986.

HE: Sir, it just came out, but if you want to believe it came out in 1986, 
it came out in 1986.

ME: EXCUSE ME. I'M SITTING HERE WITH A FOLDER OF COVER STORIES FROM POPULAR 
PHOTOGRAPHY, MODERN PHOTOGRAPHY, PETERSON'S PHOTOGRAPHIC, AND SHUTTERBUG, 
ALL DATED 1986 OR EARLY 1987. EACH HAS A TITLE LIKE, "INTRODUCING THE 
OM-4Ti" OR "THE TOP OF MOUNT OLYMPUS." DON'T TELL ME IT JUST CAME OUT!

HE: OH. SORRY.

Paul Franklin Stregevsky
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Re: Help: Looking for Brass Rings

[Paul F. Stregevsky]

Aren't we all? :)

Paul Franklin Stregevsky
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Re: FA 28-105 or FA 28-70 ?

[Brendan]

yup, in that pic the other corners are sky so it won't
be seen

--- T Rittenhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> All four corners like that?
> 
> Ciao,
> Graywolf
> http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto
>

> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: Brendan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 8:04 PM
> Subject: Re: FA 28-105 or FA 28-70 ?
> 
> 
> > Here is right the corner of the lens at 28mm
> > 
> > http://webhome.idirect.com/~trini/photo/17.jpg
> > 
> > --- T Rittenhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > That sounds like a tilted lens element or more
> > > likely group. That would only
> > > happen in a defective lens. If you sold it to
> him
> > > new. Send it in for
> > > warrenty service or replacement.
> > > 
> > > Ciao,
> > > Graywolf
> > > http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto
> > >
> >
>

> > > 
> > > 
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 2:52 PM
> > > Subject: Re: FA 28-105 or FA 28-70 ?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > On Sunday, March 31, 2002, at 09:40  PM, wendy
> > > beard wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Looks and feels tons better than some of the
> > > Pentax zoom offerings
> > > > > (eeek, did I just say that?)
> > > >
> > > > I'll certainly give it that.  It is entirely
> > > possible, too, that I've
> > > > merely seen two horrendous samples and Wendy
> has a
> > > good one, or that
> > > > maybe Wendy hasn't shot under the right
> conditions
> > > to see Brendan's
> > > > amazing Gumby Distortion(tm).  The lamp post
> bows
> > > in two different
> > > > directions at once!
> > > >
> > > > -Aaron
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Re: 6x7 repair cost

[Jim Fellows]

I live about 15 minuets from Apex up in New Hampshire, they are an
authorized Pentax repair facility.  They wont touch much of anything in the
35mm world for much under $200.00.  That usually includes a full CLA, plus
replacement of any needed parts within reason.  Anything they can't handle
goes to Pentax in Colorado.  They also don't usually work on anything unless
they know parts are available.

Jim Fellows
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From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: 6x7 repair cost


> - Original Message -
> From: Mike Ignatiev
> Subject: 6x7 repair cost
>
>
> > To the brothers:
> > I just received a quote for film transport repair from
> ApexPhoto (Pentax
> > authorized service) and KEH.
> > KEH states $135 and Apex -- $400 (US dollars). Any idea what
> the reasonable
> > price for this kind of repair is?
> > I appreciate any input.
>
> Thats quite a range. I would hope that for 400 bucks, they are
> doing a lot more than some minor adjustments. I think I would
> query both places as to exactly what you are getting for your
> money and go from there.
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Re: O T Venting anger with chain store

[T Rittenhouse]

I had to look on the Agfa website to ID this film. "Agfa Portrait 160". Not
a film a quick print lab would be familiar with. A pro lab, if they do Agfa
at all, would probably have a channel for it.

Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto



- Original Message -
From: Brendan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: O T Venting anger with chain store


> Agfa 160 xps, they are reprinting it again, I'll know
> tomorrow night,
> the person at the desk took one look at the prints and
> said " oh,
> we'll do these again, toomorrow night ok for pick
> up?". I didn't even
> need tosay any thing
>
> --- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Brendan
> > Subject: Re: O T Venting anger with chain store
> >
> >
> > > I bet if it were Kodak Gold 200 they would have no
> > > problem with it, But Agfa XPS isn't EXOTIC .
> >
> > Agfa what?
> > Never seen the stuff myself.
> > Really.
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Re: FA 28-105 or FA 28-70 ?

[T Rittenhouse]

All four corners like that?

Ciao,
Graywolf
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- Original Message - 
From: Brendan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: FA 28-105 or FA 28-70 ?


> Here is right the corner of the lens at 28mm
> 
> http://webhome.idirect.com/~trini/photo/17.jpg
> 
> --- T Rittenhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > That sounds like a tilted lens element or more
> > likely group. That would only
> > happen in a defective lens. If you sold it to him
> > new. Send it in for
> > warrenty service or replacement.
> > 
> > Ciao,
> > Graywolf
> > http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto
> >
> 
> > 
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 2:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: FA 28-105 or FA 28-70 ?
> > 
> > 
> > > On Sunday, March 31, 2002, at 09:40  PM, wendy
> > beard wrote:
> > >
> > > > Looks and feels tons better than some of the
> > Pentax zoom offerings
> > > > (eeek, did I just say that?)
> > >
> > > I'll certainly give it that.  It is entirely
> > possible, too, that I've
> > > merely seen two horrendous samples and Wendy has a
> > good one, or that
> > > maybe Wendy hasn't shot under the right conditions
> > to see Brendan's
> > > amazing Gumby Distortion(tm).  The lamp post bows
> > in two different
> > > directions at once!
> > >
> > > -Aaron
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Re: Bodies w/ Spot Metering?

[Jim Apilado]

I have a Ricoh XRX-3PF that takes K-mount lenses.  It has spot metering.  I
believe this Ricoh was the last one made.

Jim A.

> From: Steve Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> 
> Hi all:
> 
> I'm looking for some reference help.  I currently own
> a Super Program & various lenses.  I would like to add
> a Pentax body that has spot metering.  Any suggestions
> out there?  
> 
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Re: Re[2]: FA 28-105 or FA 28-70 ?

[Brendan]

This is the Sigma 28-105 F2.8-4 at the corners, all
the corners are
like this, it's the Gumpy distortion (tm). The funny
thing is it's
fine in the center and the edges, just not the
corners. I'm wondering
if it's hood is causing it but there's no light fall
off and it's not
the UV filter since it does it with out it, a 4x6
cropped to 3 1/2x
5 1/2 looks perfect.

--- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Brendan,
> 
> I can't see anything...oh, there it is.  It's all
> soft and distorted
> and...is this a fisheye lens?  :)
> 
> 
> Bruce Dayton
> 
> 
> 
> Monday, April 01, 2002, 5:04:18 PM, you wrote:
> 
> B> Here is right the corner of the lens at 28mm
> 
> B> http://webhome.idirect.com/~trini/photo/17.jpg
> 
> B> --- T Rittenhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> B> wrote:
> >> That sounds like a tilted lens element or more
> >> likely group. That would only
> >> happen in a defective lens. If you sold it to him
> >> new. Send it in for
> >> warrenty service or replacement.
> >> 
> >> Ciao,
> >> Graywolf
> >> http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto
> >>
> B>
>

> >> 
> >> 
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 2:52 PM
> >> Subject: Re: FA 28-105 or FA 28-70 ?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> > On Sunday, March 31, 2002, at 09:40  PM, wendy
> >> beard wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Looks and feels tons better than some of the
> >> Pentax zoom offerings
> >> > > (eeek, did I just say that?)
> >> >
> >> > I'll certainly give it that.  It is entirely
> >> possible, too, that I've
> >> > merely seen two horrendous samples and Wendy
> has a
> >> good one, or that
> >> > maybe Wendy hasn't shot under the right
> conditions
> >> to see Brendan's
> >> > amazing Gumby Distortion(tm).  The lamp post
> bows
> >> in two different
> >> > directions at once!
> >> >
> >> > -Aaron
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Re: Fast manual zoom for ME Super

[wendy beard]

At 18:02 1-4-2002 -0500, you wrote:

>Finally, the question: can anyone recommend a reasonably fast (f2.8-4)
>manual focus zoom lens (say 35-105mm), available secondhand and not costing
>the earth? Alternatively, can you recommend a short telephoto that might fit
>the bill?
>
>Andy Phillips

The SMC-M 75-150 f4 should be perfect for the ME Super
Another alternative is the SMC-M 135 f3.5
Both can be picked up really cheaply. They are compact and easy to handle. 
The 75-150 is a one-touch zoom which makes for easier use. I think either 
of these would be ideal for an 8/9 year old boy.

Wendy

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Re: Re[2]: O T Venting anger with chain store

[Brendan]

Oh hehe I forgot the Portrait part. They did print the
Agfa
Optima II 400 iso fine. 

--- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Brendan,
> 
> Ah, hah!  Stating the ISO rating gives it away. 
> That must be the Agfa
> Portrait film.  I have always just called it Agfa
> Portrait.  Learn
> something new everyday.
> 
> 
> Bruce Dayton
> 
> 
> 
> Monday, April 01, 2002, 4:39:05 PM, you wrote:
> 
> B> Agfa 160 xps, they are reprinting it again, I'll
> know
> B> tomorrow night,
> B> the person at the desk took one look at the
> prints and
> B> said " oh,
> B> we'll do these again, toomorrow night ok for pick
> B> up?". I didn't even
> B> need tosay any thing
> 
> B> --- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> - Original Message - 
> >> From: Brendan 
> >> Subject: Re: O T Venting anger with chain store
> >> 
> >> 
> >> > I bet if it were Kodak Gold 200 they would have
> no
> >> > problem with it, But Agfa XPS isn't EXOTIC . 
> >> 
> >> Agfa what?
> >> Never seen the stuff myself.
> >> Really.
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Re[2]: FA 28-105 or FA 28-70 ?

[Bruce Dayton]

Brendan,

I can't see anything...oh, there it is.  It's all soft and distorted
and...is this a fisheye lens?  :)


Bruce Dayton



Monday, April 01, 2002, 5:04:18 PM, you wrote:

B> Here is right the corner of the lens at 28mm

B> http://webhome.idirect.com/~trini/photo/17.jpg

B> --- T Rittenhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
B> wrote:
>> That sounds like a tilted lens element or more
>> likely group. That would only
>> happen in a defective lens. If you sold it to him
>> new. Send it in for
>> warrenty service or replacement.
>> 
>> Ciao,
>> Graywolf
>> http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto
>>
B> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 2:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: FA 28-105 or FA 28-70 ?
>> 
>> 
>> > On Sunday, March 31, 2002, at 09:40  PM, wendy
>> beard wrote:
>> >
>> > > Looks and feels tons better than some of the
>> Pentax zoom offerings
>> > > (eeek, did I just say that?)
>> >
>> > I'll certainly give it that.  It is entirely
>> possible, too, that I've
>> > merely seen two horrendous samples and Wendy has a
>> good one, or that
>> > maybe Wendy hasn't shot under the right conditions
>> to see Brendan's
>> > amazing Gumby Distortion(tm).  The lamp post bows
>> in two different
>> > directions at once!
>> >
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Re: Bodies w/ Spot Metering?

[Steve Pearson]

Do you have any specific Ricoh model numbers that you
can reference?  Are you sure that they will all accept
my Pentax lenses?  Wouldn't I lose some of the
metering (i.e. "A" settings) of my SMC-A lenses?

Thanks for the help...


--- Nitin Garg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Some Ricoh manual focus bodies have spot metering.
> And they are cheaper
> than pentax bodies too.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 04:18:53PM -0800, Steve
> Pearson wrote:
> > Hi all:
> > 
> > I'm looking for some reference help.  I currently
> own
> > a Super Program & various lenses.  I would like to
> add
> > a Pentax body that has spot metering.  Any
> suggestions
> > out there?  
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for any info.!
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Re: FA 28-105 or FA 28-70 ?

[Brendan]

Here is right the corner of the lens at 28mm

http://webhome.idirect.com/~trini/photo/17.jpg

--- T Rittenhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> That sounds like a tilted lens element or more
> likely group. That would only
> happen in a defective lens. If you sold it to him
> new. Send it in for
> warrenty service or replacement.
> 
> Ciao,
> Graywolf
> http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto
>

> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 2:52 PM
> Subject: Re: FA 28-105 or FA 28-70 ?
> 
> 
> > On Sunday, March 31, 2002, at 09:40  PM, wendy
> beard wrote:
> >
> > > Looks and feels tons better than some of the
> Pentax zoom offerings
> > > (eeek, did I just say that?)
> >
> > I'll certainly give it that.  It is entirely
> possible, too, that I've
> > merely seen two horrendous samples and Wendy has a
> good one, or that
> > maybe Wendy hasn't shot under the right conditions
> to see Brendan's
> > amazing Gumby Distortion(tm).  The lamp post bows
> in two different
> > directions at once!
> >
> > -Aaron
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Re[2]: O T Venting anger with chain store

[Bruce Dayton]

Brendan,

Ah, hah!  Stating the ISO rating gives it away.  That must be the Agfa
Portrait film.  I have always just called it Agfa Portrait.  Learn
something new everyday.


Bruce Dayton



Monday, April 01, 2002, 4:39:05 PM, you wrote:

B> Agfa 160 xps, they are reprinting it again, I'll know
B> tomorrow night,
B> the person at the desk took one look at the prints and
B> said " oh,
B> we'll do these again, toomorrow night ok for pick
B> up?". I didn't even
B> need tosay any thing

B> --- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> From: Brendan 
>> Subject: Re: O T Venting anger with chain store
>> 
>> 
>> > I bet if it were Kodak Gold 200 they would have no
>> > problem with it, But Agfa XPS isn't EXOTIC . 
>> 
>> Agfa what?
>> Never seen the stuff myself.
>> Really.
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Re: Bodies w/ Spot Metering?

[Steve Pearson]

I was kind of leaning towards an older, manual focus
body.  But, I could go either way.


--- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Are you looking for an old manual focus body or a
> new(er) AF body?
> 
> 
> Bruce Dayton
> 
> 
> 
> Monday, April 01, 2002, 4:18:53 PM, you wrote:
> 
> SP> Hi all:
> 
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> currently own
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> suggestions
> SP> out there?  
> 
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Re: Bodies w/ Spot Metering?

[Nitin Garg]

Some Ricoh manual focus bodies have spot metering. And they are cheaper
than pentax bodies too.


On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 04:18:53PM -0800, Steve Pearson wrote:
> Hi all:
> 
> I'm looking for some reference help.  I currently own
> a Super Program & various lenses.  I would like to add
> a Pentax body that has spot metering.  Any suggestions
> out there?  
> 
> 
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Re: O T Venting anger with chain store

[Bill Owens]

Or, they haven't balanced their film channels lately.  If ours go too long
w/o balancing, overexposed negs go magenta and underexposed ones go green.

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Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: O T Venting anger with chain store


> On Monday, April 1, 2002, at 05:09  PM, Brendan wrote:
>
> >  I mean if it was printed yellow, red or orange
> > I would be happy but green, blue and now purple lady
> > bugs? I'm just hoping it's an April fools joke at this point.
>
> Either they're absolutely flummoxed by the film you've brought them --
> what was it?  Something that Wal-Mart could consider 'exotic'? -- or
> they've got a serious chemical problem, or they've just hired someone
> new, or the printer has never seen a ladybug before, or any combination
> of those four.
>
> -aaron
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Re: O T Venting anger with chain store

[Brendan]

Agfa 160 xps, they are reprinting it again, I'll know
tomorrow night,
the person at the desk took one look at the prints and
said " oh,
we'll do these again, toomorrow night ok for pick
up?". I didn't even
need tosay any thing

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> Subject: Re: O T Venting anger with chain store
> 
> 
> > I bet if it were Kodak Gold 200 they would have no
> > problem with it, But Agfa XPS isn't EXOTIC . 
> 
> Agfa what?
> Never seen the stuff myself.
> Really.
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Re: Bodies w/ Spot Metering?

[Brendan]

PZ-20, Mz-3, mz-5n, pz-1p, pz-1, mz-6, mz-s. I'm sure
there's more I
left out.

--- Steve Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> add
> a Pentax body that has spot metering.  Any
> suggestions
> out there?  
> 
> 
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Re: Bodies w/ Spot Metering?

[tom]

On 1 Apr 2002 at 16:18, Steve Pearson wrote:

> Hi all:
> 
> I'm looking for some reference help.  I currently own
> a Super Program & various lenses.  I would like to add
> a Pentax body that has spot metering.  Any suggestions
> out there?  

Start here:

http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/

Check the specs on the PZ, and ZX series. The usual suspects would be the PZ-1p, ZX-5n 
and MZ-S.

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Re: Bodies w/ Spot Metering?

[Bruce Dayton]

Are you looking for an old manual focus body or a new(er) AF body?


Bruce Dayton



Monday, April 01, 2002, 4:18:53 PM, you wrote:

SP> Hi all:

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SP> a Pentax body that has spot metering.  Any suggestions
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Re: FA 28-105 or FA 28-70 ?

[T Rittenhouse]

Yah, well, cynic that I am, I doubt the conventional wisdom about the
M28/2.8 too. That I will have personal knowledge of as soon as I get a roll
of film developed and put a loupe to the negative.

I would be more ready to believe that you had a defective lens, than that
Sigma designed a worthless one. I can not believe that they are not adequate
for 4x6 snap shots, and would be surprised if they didn't do nice 8x10s.

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: FA 28-105 or FA 28-70 ?


> On Sunday, March 31, 2002, at 09:00  PM, T Rittenhouse wrote:
>
> > Golly, I have to try one of these lenses. I can not without first hand
> > experience believe they are that bad. Even my 35-70 super cheap Sigma is
> > pretty good, not robust, but the image is OK. Of course people who
> > complain
> > of distortion on zoom lenses live in a different universe than I do, one
> > with different laws of physics. Anyway, I can not believe the 28-105
> > 2.8/4.0
> > Sigma can be that bad considering its price point.
>
> It is so bad that I pleaded with Brendan not to buy it from me (not me
> personally, but the store).  It is the single most awful lens I've ever
> mounted on a camera, and I own the infamous SMC-M 28mm f2.8.  In fact, I
> originally begged the distributor to not make me take it -- I had to
> take a package to get certain prices, and based on my experience testing
> that lens when I was at Sterling, I knew I'd never be able to
> in-good-conscience sell it.
>
> This isn't a wholesale condemnation of Sigma's lenses, mind you: my
> Sigma 24mm f2.8 is an excellent performer.  It ain't no SMC-FA* 24mm
> f2.0, but it's also half the weight and a quarter the price.
>
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Re: Fast manual zoom for ME Super

[David Spaulding]

> Finally, the question: can anyone recommend a reasonably fast (f2.8-4)
> manual focus zoom lens (say 35-105mm), available secondhand and not costing
> the earth? Alternatively, can you recommend a short telephoto that might fit
> the bill?
> 
> Andy Phillips

Andy,

Guess that depends on what the earth is going for these days. You can find
some 35-105 3.5 Pentax A series lenses for around $150 US or maybe a 45-125
F4 for under $100 US. There are quite a few good short zooms made by
Vivitar(Series 1 are the best), and Tamron, oh and I guess Tokina. You can
find any of those for $150 US or less.

Would a 70-200 be too much. There are some good 70-200 F4 lenses for $130 or
less.

If you are looking at the faster glass, chances are you will have a good
lens. Any 2.8 - 4 type lens will give good results, most of the time.

HTH

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Re: O T Venting anger with chain store

[Brendan]

Aaron can atest that I'm not one of those, yes I'm a
difficult customer, annoying and irritating but never
go off handle. I guess I've been spoilt a bit after
seeing what I can do in my own B&W basement knowing
just how much bad handling on my part it takes to
scratch negs, what out of focus, off colour is from
slides etc. Not to mention what Aaron did to an
already out of focus neg he made look better than the
4x6 print with his digital 8x10 inkjet print. But
enough is enough this time when there are colour casts
and splotches on the prints ( Aaron saw the walmart
prints and laughed ). I kindly showed them the off
coloured lady bug and the 2nd set is a different off
colour. I mean if it was printed yellow, red or orange
I would be happy but green, blue and now purple lady
bugs? I'm just hoping it's an April fools joke at this point.

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Re: Fast manual zoom for ME Super

[Timothy Sherburne]

Hi Andy:

The SMC-A 35-105/3.5 might be a good choice, but it's not exactly
lightweight. I've seen this sold on eBay for ~$150. See Boz's site for
specs:




and Stan's site for subjective comments:



I'm interested to see what others post about 3rd party glass.

t

On 4/1/02 1:39 PM, Andy Phillips wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> My elder son (age 8 pushing 9) has a Pentax ME Super that I bought for him a
> year or so ago. He has the 50/f1.7 standard lens and also a Sigma 24/f2.8
> that we picked up at a local camera fair. Despite his age, he has a
> reasonable grasp of photography, and has taken some good pictures. He's now
> decided that he needs another focal length, but also would like the
> flexibility of a zoom lens.
> 
> The problem is that as a small boy, he can't be expected to hold a (fairly)
> heavy camera at slow shutter speeds. Given the British weather, there are
> occasions when even with ASA 200 film, you find yourself taking pictures at
> 1/60th f2.8 or so. The consumer zooms I have for my pZ-1p tend to have
> maximum apertures in the f4-f5.6 range at best, which limits their
> usefulness especially with slower films. I don't want to buy him a zoom that
> he can't use without a tripod!
> 
> The second problem is that my impression is that zoom lenses have improved
> over the past few years, and that old zooms can be pretty crummy. On the
> other hand, the newer autofocus lenses don't work well on manual cameras,
> because of the looseness and short travel of the focussing ring.
> 
> Finally, the question: can anyone recommend a reasonably fast (f2.8-4)
> manual focus zoom lens (say 35-105mm), available secondhand and not costing
> the earth? Alternatively, can you recommend a short telephoto that might fit
> the bill?
> 
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Re: Fast manual zoom for ME Super

[Shel Belinkoff]

Well, the A35~70/4.0 might fit the bill.  I think they're available for
less than $100.00. The lens also offers a close focus capability.

Andy Phillips wrote:

> Finally, the question: can anyone recommend a reasonably fast (f2.8-4)
> manual focus zoom lens (say 35-105mm), available secondhand and not costing
> the earth? Alternatively, can you recommend a short telephoto that might fit
> the bill?

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Re: Fast manual zoom for ME Super

[Bill Owens]

> Finally, the question: can anyone recommend a reasonably fast (f2.8-4)
> manual focus zoom lens (say 35-105mm), available secondhand and not
costing
> the earth? Alternatively, can you recommend a short telephoto that might
fit
> the bill?

It may be a bit long, but I recently picked up a Vivitar Series 1 70-210/3.5
at one of the local shops for just under $100.00 US.

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Re: !SV: Pentax WILL produce a digital SLR!

[Peter Alling]

That would depend on weather you were looking at the user interface or the
marketing segment.

At 01:28 AM 3/30/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>In a message dated 30-Mar-02 12:05:06 AM Central Standard Time,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>
> > Pentax makes a SP (Super Program), a modern one -  with Auto Focus/Manual
> > Focus - it's called: Pentax  MZ-S! It has the same basic user
> > interface-concept as the Super Program, which by the way, has been my
> > favorite camera for years - I used up a few of these... And when it dies -
> > I'll  simply (hopefully) buy  annother one - if not a MZ-S!
> >
>
>I actually thought the ZX-5n was more of a modern Super Program.
>ERNR
>
>My photographs hang on the virtual walls at
>http://members.aol.com/ernreed
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Fast manual zoom for ME Super

[Andy Phillips]

Hi,

My elder son (age 8 pushing 9) has a Pentax ME Super that I bought for him a
year or so ago. He has the 50/f1.7 standard lens and also a Sigma 24/f2.8
that we picked up at a local camera fair. Despite his age, he has a
reasonable grasp of photography, and has taken some good pictures. He's now
decided that he needs another focal length, but also would like the
flexibility of a zoom lens.

The problem is that as a small boy, he can't be expected to hold a (fairly)
heavy camera at slow shutter speeds. Given the British weather, there are
occasions when even with ASA 200 film, you find yourself taking pictures at
1/60th f2.8 or so. The consumer zooms I have for my pZ-1p tend to have
maximum apertures in the f4-f5.6 range at best, which limits their
usefulness especially with slower films. I don't want to buy him a zoom that
he can't use without a tripod!

The second problem is that my impression is that zoom lenses have improved
over the past few years, and that old zooms can be pretty crummy. On the
other hand, the newer autofocus lenses don't work well on manual cameras,
because of the looseness and short travel of the focussing ring.

Finally, the question: can anyone recommend a reasonably fast (f2.8-4)
manual focus zoom lens (say 35-105mm), available secondhand and not costing
the earth? Alternatively, can you recommend a short telephoto that might fit
the bill?

Andy Phillips
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Re: OPINION WANTED: which Epson photo paper?

[Mark Cassino]

Thanks for that tip - I'll order some (really miss glossy prints!)

- MCC

At 03:07 PM 4/1/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>On Monday, April 1, 2002, at 12:04  PM, Mark Cassino wrote:
>
>>I use the Premium Lustre Paper, but I'm using a  2000P which is more
>>limited in paper choices than the 780. When I was using the EX I really
>>liked the Ilford Photo Paper, high gloss.
>
>Try the new Ilford Galerie Smooth Gloss in your 2000P.  It rocks in our 
>7500, which is basically a big 2000P that uses roll paper.

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Re: Re: New Pentax

[David Brooks]

Now thats funny Tom.

Dave :)

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From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 15:41:52 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New Pentax


On 1 Apr 2002 at 11:24, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

> What?  No black body?  Tell ya what I think ... I think Tom's 
playing a
> little joke on us.
>

Well, it *could* happen.

Maybe.

Hey look, amazing search engine technology from Google:

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Re: Thanks for all the Tucson tips.

[Christian Skofteland]

Glad you had a good time.

Christian Skofteland
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From: "Matamoros, Cesar A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> I wanted to take a breather and thank everyone who sent me
> information about Tucson.  I ended up taking in the Fourth Avenue Street
> Festival on two separate occasions, San Xavier de Brac Mission, a walk
about
> downtown Tucson, the Sonoran Desert Museum, The Saguaro National Monument,
> Biosphere 2, and Sabine Canyon.
>
> Thanks again to Christian, Stan, Jim, Tom, Cory, Shel, and Ann -
> Cora´s Cafe was great!
>
> I just got through culling the 25 rolls from Honduras, now I have to
> go through the 12 rolls from Tucson.  Images to the web at some point.  I
> have a Shrimp & Oyster Festival to attend, work, and photograph this
weekend
> so even that will have to wait.
>
> To a wonderful, helpful group,
>
> César
> Panama City, Florida
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Re: FA 28-105 or FA 28-70 ?

[Brendan]

Here is an example at 105mm 

http://webhome.idirect.com/~trini/flowers2/sig28105.jpg

I'll scan one of the lamp post Gumby Distortion(tm). 
 
--- Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sunday, March 31, 2002, at 09:40  PM, wendy beard
> wrote:
> 
> > Looks and feels tons better than some of the
> Pentax zoom offerings 
> > (eeek, did I just say that?)
> 
> I'll certainly give it that.  It is entirely
> possible, too, that I've 
> merely seen two horrendous samples and Wendy has a
> good one, or that 
> maybe Wendy hasn't shot under the right conditions
> to see Brendan's 
> amazing Gumby Distortion(tm).  The lamp post bows in
> two different 
> directions at once!
> 
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Re: New Pentax

[Collin Brendemuehl]

April 1 on PDML sure gets long.


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Re: New Pentax

[Evan Hanson]

 Doh.

Mark Erickson wrote:
> 
> So what's today's date again?  :-)
> 
>  --Mark
> 
> tom wrote:
> >
> > I've been told that there's a pretty good likelihood of
> > an announcement of a Pentax 6x6 rangefinder at Photokina.
> >
> > *Supposedly* the body and lenses have a silver limited
> > finish. I sure hope there's a f/2.8 lens or 2
> >
> > tv
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Re: New Pentax

[tom]

On 1 Apr 2002 at 11:24, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

> What?  No black body?  Tell ya what I think ... I think Tom's playing a
> little joke on us.
>

Well, it *could* happen.

Maybe.

Hey look, amazing search engine technology from Google:

http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html

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Re: Thanks for all the Tucson tips.

[Ann Sanfedele]

"Matamoros, Cesar A." wrote:
> 
> I wanted to take a breather and thank everyone who sent me
> information about Tucson.  I ended up taking in the Fourth Avenue Street
> Festival on two separate occasions, San Xavier de Brac Mission, a walk about
> downtown Tucson, the Sonoran Desert Museum, The Saguaro National Monument,
> Biosphere 2, and Sabine Canyon.
> 
> Thanks again to Christian, Stan, Jim, Tom, Cory, Shel, and Ann -
> Cora´s Cafe was great!
> 


So glad you liked it, Cesar - though not at all surprised :)
I hope to stop in Tucson on my way to San Diego in August to
work at the Scrabble Championships.  

Looking forward to seeing your snaps.

annsan
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Re: Closet-LX

[Alan Chan]

Rusting inside possibly. Sticky mirror for sure.

regards,
Alan Chan

>I'm been offered a 20 year old LX (serial number 5272XXX). The condition
>seems to be A+, cosmetically as well as mechanically. The reason -
>according to the owner - is that this camera has mostly been "in the
>closet". Fair enough - but wouldn't a camera "age" even when not being used
>- at least certain parts of it? Cars do AFAIK.


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Re: New Pentax

[Mark Erickson]

So what's today's date again?  :-) 

 --Mark 

tom wrote:
> 
> I've been told that there's a pretty good likelihood of 
> an announcement of a Pentax 6x6 rangefinder at Photokina. 
> 
> *Supposedly* the body and lenses have a silver limited 
> finish. I sure hope there's a f/2.8 lens or 2 
> 
> tv
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Kodak PMZ 1000

[Bill Owens]

One of the local camera shops had some of this dated 04/2000 at $20.00 per
pro pack in 220.  Did I just waste $20.00 or is it any good?

Bill  KG4LOV
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Re: Photon Grease

[Edmptx]

In a message dated 4/1/2002 2:21:11 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> DOUBLE your film speed NOW, without changing the favorite film you use!
> 
>  Mr. Bill's Photon Grease 
> 
> 

April 1, 2002.

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RE: Stereo Adapter

[Familie Scheffler]

There are chinese stereo adaptors similar to Pentax ...

http://www.pauck.de/marco/photo/stereo/stereo_world/stereo_world.html
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Re: Photon Grease

[Bill Owens]

In that case, Shel could definitely use some :-)

Bill  KG4LOV
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- Original Message -
From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: Photon Grease


> I have used this product as a treatment for constipation.
> Paul
>
> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> >
> > Hi ...
> >
> > I just received this email and was wondering
> > if anyone's tried the product:
> >
> > =
> >
> > AS SEEN ON eBay!
> >
> > * Tired of slow, sluggish shutter speeds?
> > * Keep getting that dreaded "Shake" warning?
> > * Does your camera lock up at the worst possible moment in low light?
> >
> > Want to end missing those Decisive Moments FOREVER?
> >
> > DOUBLE your film speed NOW, without changing the favorite film you use!
> >
> >  Mr. Bill's Photon Grease 
> >
> > Just a little dab of Mr. Bill's Photon Grease on the front of your lens
> > lets those photons slide right through the glass and lubricates them to
> > get
> > past the lens diaphragm with less congestion.  The result?  TWICE as
> > many
> > get through to the film!  That's right, TWICE the number of photons.
> > It's
> > the SAME as DOUBLING your film speed!
> >
> > So many books talk about the wave theory of light, but few talk about
> > the
> > particle theory.  That's right, light is actually minuscule, minute
> > particles!  Normal lubricants are made of molecules and compounds too
> > big
> > to work on properly on the very small size of photons.  Mr. Bill's
> > Photon
> > Grease is specially formulated with molecules the proper size that work
> > at
> > the necessary sub-molecular level to coat those photons.  Quantum
> > mechanics
> > have known about this grease for years.  Now, Mr. Bill introduces it to
> > the
> > world of photography.
> >
> > AND . . .
> > Mr. Bill's Photon Grease does MORE than just double your film speed!
> >
> > Still using single-coated, or worse yet, uncoated lenses and filters?
> >
> > Mr. Bill's Photon Grease REDUCES glare and flare by enabling MORE
> > photons
> > to slide past air-glass surfaces with less reflection, less flare and
> > greater light transmission.  The improvement in contrast is dramatic.
> >
> > With all this benefit, you must think Mr. Bill's Photon Grease is
> > costly.
> >
> > Not so!  A 4 oz. tube of Mr. Bill's Photon Grease would normally sell
> > for
> > $24.95, but for a limited time only, a special supply of 6 oz. tubes of
> > Mr.
> > Bill's Photon Grease is available for ONLY $9.95; that's right, 50% more
> > at
> > less than HALF the manufacturer's suggested retail price.
> >
> > HURRY!  ACT NOW, while supplies last!
> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > NOT AVAILABLE IN STORES
> >
> > --
> > Shel Belinkoff
> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thanks for all the Tucson tips.

[Matamoros, Cesar A.]

I wanted to take a breather and thank everyone who sent me
information about Tucson.  I ended up taking in the Fourth Avenue Street
Festival on two separate occasions, San Xavier de Brac Mission, a walk about
downtown Tucson, the Sonoran Desert Museum, The Saguaro National Monument,
Biosphere 2, and Sabine Canyon.

Thanks again to Christian, Stan, Jim, Tom, Cory, Shel, and Ann -
Cora´s Cafe was great!

I just got through culling the 25 rolls from Honduras, now I have to
go through the 12 rolls from Tucson.  Images to the web at some point.  I
have a Shrimp & Oyster Festival to attend, work, and photograph this weekend
so even that will have to wait.

To a wonderful, helpful group,

César
Panama City, Florida
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Re: Photon Grease

[Stephen Moore]

> HURRY!  ACT NOW, while supplies last!
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

HAR!

NB: A bogon is the elementary particle 
that transmits bogosity, IIRC


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Re: New Pentax

[Aaron Reynolds]

On Monday, April 1, 2002, at 12:34  PM, tom wrote:

> I've been told that there's a pretty good likelihood of an announcement 
> of a Pentax 6x6 rangefinder at Photokina.
>
> *Supposedly* the body and lenses have a silver limited finish. I sure 
> hope there's a f/2.8 lens or 2

...interesting...

-Aaron
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Re: OPINION WANTED: which Epson photo paper?

[Aaron Reynolds]

On Monday, April 1, 2002, at 12:04  PM, Mark Cassino wrote:

> I use the Premium Lustre Paper, but I'm using a  2000P which is more
> limited in paper choices than the 780. When I was using the EX I really
> liked the Ilford Photo Paper, high gloss.

Try the new Ilford Galerie Smooth Gloss in your 2000P.  It rocks in our 
7500, which is basically a big 2000P that uses roll paper.

-Aaron
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Re: First 6x7 experience and more questions

[Aaron Reynolds]

On Monday, April 1, 2002, at 09:38  AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>
> Do you have some darkroom information for me, Aaron?

D'oh!

-Aaron
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Re: Photon Grease

[Paul Stenquist]

I have used this product as a treatment for constipation.
Paul

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> 
> Hi ...
> 
> I just received this email and was wondering
> if anyone's tried the product:
> 
> =
> 
> AS SEEN ON eBay!
> 
> * Tired of slow, sluggish shutter speeds?
> * Keep getting that dreaded "Shake" warning?
> * Does your camera lock up at the worst possible moment in low light?
> 
> Want to end missing those Decisive Moments FOREVER?
> 
> DOUBLE your film speed NOW, without changing the favorite film you use!
> 
>  Mr. Bill's Photon Grease 
> 
> Just a little dab of Mr. Bill's Photon Grease on the front of your lens
> lets those photons slide right through the glass and lubricates them to
> get
> past the lens diaphragm with less congestion.  The result?  TWICE as
> many
> get through to the film!  That's right, TWICE the number of photons.
> It's
> the SAME as DOUBLING your film speed!
> 
> So many books talk about the wave theory of light, but few talk about
> the
> particle theory.  That's right, light is actually minuscule, minute
> particles!  Normal lubricants are made of molecules and compounds too
> big
> to work on properly on the very small size of photons.  Mr. Bill's
> Photon
> Grease is specially formulated with molecules the proper size that work
> at
> the necessary sub-molecular level to coat those photons.  Quantum
> mechanics
> have known about this grease for years.  Now, Mr. Bill introduces it to
> the
> world of photography.
> 
> AND . . .
> Mr. Bill's Photon Grease does MORE than just double your film speed!
> 
> Still using single-coated, or worse yet, uncoated lenses and filters?
> 
> Mr. Bill's Photon Grease REDUCES glare and flare by enabling MORE
> photons
> to slide past air-glass surfaces with less reflection, less flare and
> greater light transmission.  The improvement in contrast is dramatic.
> 
> With all this benefit, you must think Mr. Bill's Photon Grease is
> costly.
> 
> Not so!  A 4 oz. tube of Mr. Bill's Photon Grease would normally sell
> for
> $24.95, but for a limited time only, a special supply of 6 oz. tubes of
> Mr.
> Bill's Photon Grease is available for ONLY $9.95; that's right, 50% more
> at
> less than HALF the manufacturer's suggested retail price.
> 
> HURRY!  ACT NOW, while supplies last!
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> NOT AVAILABLE IN STORES
> 
> --
> Shel Belinkoff
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: FA 28-105 or FA 28-70 ?

[Aaron Reynolds]

On Sunday, March 31, 2002, at 09:00  PM, T Rittenhouse wrote:

> Golly, I have to try one of these lenses. I can not without first hand
> experience believe they are that bad. Even my 35-70 super cheap Sigma is
> pretty good, not robust, but the image is OK. Of course people who 
> complain
> of distortion on zoom lenses live in a different universe than I do, one
> with different laws of physics. Anyway, I can not believe the 28-105 
> 2.8/4.0
> Sigma can be that bad considering its price point.

It is so bad that I pleaded with Brendan not to buy it from me (not me 
personally, but the store).  It is the single most awful lens I've ever 
mounted on a camera, and I own the infamous SMC-M 28mm f2.8.  In fact, I 
originally begged the distributor to not make me take it -- I had to 
take a package to get certain prices, and based on my experience testing 
that lens when I was at Sterling, I knew I'd never be able to 
in-good-conscience sell it.

This isn't a wholesale condemnation of Sigma's lenses, mind you: my 
Sigma 24mm f2.8 is an excellent performer.  It ain't no SMC-FA* 24mm 
f2.0, but it's also half the weight and a quarter the price.

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Re: FA 28-105 or FA 28-70 ?

[Aaron Reynolds]

On Sunday, March 31, 2002, at 09:40  PM, wendy beard wrote:

> Looks and feels tons better than some of the Pentax zoom offerings 
> (eeek, did I just say that?)

I'll certainly give it that.  It is entirely possible, too, that I've 
merely seen two horrendous samples and Wendy has a good one, or that 
maybe Wendy hasn't shot under the right conditions to see Brendan's 
amazing Gumby Distortion(tm).  The lamp post bows in two different 
directions at once!

-Aaron
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Re: Photon Grease

[Bob Walkden]

Hi,

Works a treat, Shel. You can make it at home from the lanolin in goat's wool.

---

 Bob  

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Monday, April 01, 2002, 8:21:05 PM, you wrote:

> Hi ...

> I just received this email and was wondering 
> if anyone's tried the product:
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Re: Photon Grease

[Nitin Garg]

I am sure its called Apr 1 wonder grease.

On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 11:21:05AM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> Hi ...
> 
> I just received this email and was wondering 
> if anyone's tried the product:
> 
> =
> 
> AS SEEN ON eBay!
> 
> * Tired of slow, sluggish shutter speeds?
> * Keep getting that dreaded "Shake" warning?
> * Does your camera lock up at the worst possible moment in low light?
> 
> Want to end missing those Decisive Moments FOREVER?
> 
> DOUBLE your film speed NOW, without changing the favorite film you use!
> 
>  Mr. Bill's Photon Grease 
> 
> Just a little dab of Mr. Bill's Photon Grease on the front of your lens 
> lets those photons slide right through the glass and lubricates them to
> get 
> past the lens diaphragm with less congestion.  The result?  TWICE as
> many 
> get through to the film!  That's right, TWICE the number of photons. 
> It's 
> the SAME as DOUBLING your film speed!
> 
> So many books talk about the wave theory of light, but few talk about
> the 
> particle theory.  That's right, light is actually minuscule, minute 
> particles!  Normal lubricants are made of molecules and compounds too
> big 
> to work on properly on the very small size of photons.  Mr. Bill's
> Photon 
> Grease is specially formulated with molecules the proper size that work
> at 
> the necessary sub-molecular level to coat those photons.  Quantum
> mechanics 
> have known about this grease for years.  Now, Mr. Bill introduces it to
> the 
> world of photography.
> 
> AND . . .
> Mr. Bill's Photon Grease does MORE than just double your film speed!
> 
> Still using single-coated, or worse yet, uncoated lenses and filters?
> 
> Mr. Bill's Photon Grease REDUCES glare and flare by enabling MORE
> photons 
> to slide past air-glass surfaces with less reflection, less flare and 
> greater light transmission.  The improvement in contrast is dramatic.
> 
> With all this benefit, you must think Mr. Bill's Photon Grease is
> costly.
> 
> Not so!  A 4 oz. tube of Mr. Bill's Photon Grease would normally sell
> for 
> $24.95, but for a limited time only, a special supply of 6 oz. tubes of
> Mr. 
> Bill's Photon Grease is available for ONLY $9.95; that's right, 50% more
> at 
> less than HALF the manufacturer's suggested retail price.
> 
> HURRY!  ACT NOW, while supplies last!
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> NOT AVAILABLE IN STORES 
> 
> 
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RE: Photon Grease

[Łukasz Kacperczyk]

What day is it today? April Fool's Day am I right?
Łukasz
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Re: Photon Grease

[Brendan]

WHAT!!! these guys actually think people will fall
for that ( ok don't answer that one ). 

--- Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi ...
> 
> I just received this email and was wondering 
> if anyone's tried the product:
> 
> =
> 
> AS SEEN ON eBay!
> 
> * Tired of slow, sluggish shutter speeds?
> * Keep getting that dreaded "Shake" warning?
> * Does your camera lock up at the worst possible
> moment in low light?
> 
> Want to end missing those Decisive Moments FOREVER?
> 
> DOUBLE your film speed NOW, without changing the
> favorite film you use!
> 
>  Mr. Bill's Photon Grease 
> 
> Just a little dab of Mr. Bill's Photon Grease on the
> front of your lens 
> lets those photons slide right through the glass and
> lubricates them to
> get 
> past the lens diaphragm with less congestion.  The
> result?  TWICE as
> many 
> get through to the film!  That's right, TWICE the
> number of photons. 
> It's 
> the SAME as DOUBLING your film speed!
> 
> So many books talk about the wave theory of light,
> but few talk about
> the 
> particle theory.  That's right, light is actually
> minuscule, minute 
> particles!  Normal lubricants are made of molecules
> and compounds too
> big 
> to work on properly on the very small size of
> photons.  Mr. Bill's
> Photon 
> Grease is specially formulated with molecules the
> proper size that work
> at 
> the necessary sub-molecular level to coat those
> photons.  Quantum
> mechanics 
> have known about this grease for years.  Now, Mr.
> Bill introduces it to
> the 
> world of photography.
> 
> AND . . .
> Mr. Bill's Photon Grease does MORE than just double
> your film speed!
> 
> Still using single-coated, or worse yet, uncoated
> lenses and filters?
> 
> Mr. Bill's Photon Grease REDUCES glare and flare by
> enabling MORE
> photons 
> to slide past air-glass surfaces with less
> reflection, less flare and 
> greater light transmission.  The improvement in
> contrast is dramatic.
> 
> With all this benefit, you must think Mr. Bill's
> Photon Grease is
> costly.
> 
> Not so!  A 4 oz. tube of Mr. Bill's Photon Grease
> would normally sell
> for 
> $24.95, but for a limited time only, a special
> supply of 6 oz. tubes of
> Mr. 
> Bill's Photon Grease is available for ONLY $9.95;
> that's right, 50% more
> at 
> less than HALF the manufacturer's suggested retail
> price.
> 
> HURRY!  ACT NOW, while supplies last!
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> NOT AVAILABLE IN STORES 
> 
> 
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Re: New Pentax

[Shel Belinkoff]

What?  No black body?  Tell ya what I think ... I think Tom's playing a
little joke on us.

Treena Harp wrote:
> 
> Likewise. I'm drooling just thinking about it.

> > tom wrote:
> > >
> > > I've been told that there's a pretty good 
> > > likelihood of an announcement
> > > of a Pentax 6x6 rangefinder at Photokina.
> > >
> > > *Supposedly* the body and lenses have a 
> > > silver limited finish. I sure
> > > hope there's a f/2.8 lens or 2

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Re[2]: Stereo Adapter

[Bob Walkden]

Hi,

> For my part I would think
> twice on buying a camera for a lot of money that was made with saw and
> srewdriver and some modified body-parts out of regularly cameras (may be
> prejudice).

may be. Some of the best (mono) cameras in the world
are made with saw, screwdriver and alien body parts, and they cost a
lot of money:

http://www.gandolficorfield.co.uk/

'Gandolfi cameras are to the world of photography what Stradivarius violins are to 
music'
- National Museum of Film, Photography and Television, UK.



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Re: Rome Photo show

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: Aaron Reynolds 
Subject: Re: Rome Photo show


> http://digilander.iol.it/aohc/pshw2002/psh0208.jpg
> 
> Ooh ooh ooh, I see a 67 in the showcase!

Looks like they put it in the case with a bunch of relics.
William Robb
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Vs: FA 28-105 or FA 28-70 ?

[Raimo Korhonen]

You forgot the 4.0/28-85 Tokina, the oldest version, that is - it has tested very 
well. If anybody has one surplus to requirements, I´d like to buy it.
All the best!
Raimo
Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho

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Aihe: Re: FA 28-105 or FA 28-70 ?


>If autofocus is neither needed nor desired, there are several well-built third-party 
>choices from the good ol' days; some are PKAs:
>
>Vivitar 24-70 (f/3.8?)
>Kiron 28-70 f/3.5-4.5
>Vivitar 28-90 (f/2.8-3.5)
>Rikenon 28-100 f/4
>Vivitar Series 1 28-105/2.8-3.8
>Kiron 28-105 (f/3.5-4.5?)
>Rikenon 28-105 f/3.5-4.5
>Vivitar 28-105 f/3.5-4.5
>
>Most have a modest macro capability, although sometimes at the short end. Some 
>reportedly have problems with vignetting, pincushioning, or flare, but that could be 
>said of most zooms in this range.
>
>I have collected comments on most of these. If anyone has experience with one of the 
>Ricoh's, I'd be interested.
>
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Pentax 300/2/.8 PKA, 135-600 deals in Paris

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http://www.lamaisonduleica.com/MGWEBOCC.htm

Price in Euros:

M 155PTXD04351 2.8/300 ptax ifed pentax 59283 6 mois 1360.00 pour bai k/a (tres rare 
!) 
M 155PTXD02532 6.7/135-600 pentax k 5071470 sans 970.00   

Also:
M 155PTXD01169 5.6-8/100-500 apo/pka 1000144 sans 1170.00   
M 155PTXD03408 4/45-125 pentax pk   5142713 sans 102.00   
M 155PTXD04254 3.5/135 pentax k  7561293 sans 65.00   

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Re[2]: First 6x7 experience and more questions

[Bruce Dayton]

Pat,

I'm thinking that I have the same bag as you.  Is it a bit more like a
briefcase with an opening lid to see all?  I really like the bag but
cannot put the 67 body with prism in the way you are supposed to put
35mm cameras.  It is too tall.  Or do you let a big lump sit there.
Other than that I quite like the design of the bag.  I use it for 35mm
stuff.


Bruce Dayton



Sunday, March 31, 2002, 1:15:24 PM, you wrote:

PW> I was using the small bag that was thrown in on the deal when I bought my 6x7, 
then I bought another lens, etc., etc.  The other day I pulled out the Lowepro Omni 
Pro bag I hadn't used in a long
PW> time, and it's perfect.  It holds the camera, 105/2.4, 165/2.8, extension tubes, 
2x converter, Metz flash, and has lots of room left over.  It even has quick-release 
loops to carry a tripod.

PW> The thing I really like is that I can put the camera in the bag no matter what 
lens is on it, including the 165 plus 2x converter.  With many bags, you have to take 
off the long lens to put the
PW> camera away.  That really annoys me, especially if I'm using that lens repeatedly. 
 

PW> Pat White
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Re: First 6x7 experience and more questions

[Shel Belinkoff]

Which also has frame spacing problems.  The MX does as well.

Do you have some darkroom information for me, Aaron?

Aaron Reynolds wrote:

> With such big negs with a fair amount 
> of tension and a non-motorized
> transport, I would not expect the spacing 
> of a 67 to be as even as, say, an LX.

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RE: Rome Photo show

[Malcolm Smith]

HAR!! The 67 is small - look at the camera on the wall.

Malcolm

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Subject: Re: Rome Photo show
> 
> 
> http://digilander.iol.it/aohc/pshw2002/psh0208.jpg
> 
> Ooh ooh ooh, I see a 67 in the showcase!
> 
> -Brother Aaron, ever on the lookout ;)
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Re: First 6x7 experience and more questions

[Aaron Reynolds]

On Saturday, March 30, 2002, at 11:40  PM, William Robb wrote:

> Thats a crap shoot Mike. The film advance is an issue with the
> 6x7. They didn't get it fixed until the 67. I think the only way
> to make sure you don't get one with a problem is to buy a new
> one.

Even my new-in-1998 67 occasionally has not-quite-even spacing, though I 
think it may have to do with the way I load it.  I'm still testing.

With such big negs with a fair amount of tension and a non-motorized 
transport, I would not expect the spacing of a 67 to be as even as, say, 
an LX.

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Re: FA 28-105 or FA 28-70 ?

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

If autofocus is neither needed nor desired, there are several well-built third-party 
choices from the good ol' days; some are PKAs:

Vivitar 24-70 (f/3.8?)
Kiron 28-70 f/3.5-4.5
Vivitar 28-90 (f/2.8-3.5)
Rikenon 28-100 f/4
Vivitar Series 1 28-105/2.8-3.8
Kiron 28-105 (f/3.5-4.5?)
Rikenon 28-105 f/3.5-4.5
Vivitar 28-105 f/3.5-4.5

Most have a modest macro capability, although sometimes at the short end. Some 
reportedly have problems with vignetting, pincushioning, or flare, but that could be 
said of most zooms in this range.

I have collected comments on most of these. If anyone has experience with one of the 
Ricoh's, I'd be interested.

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Re: ??? Price of 400/4 for 6x7

[Aaron Reynolds]

On Sunday, March 31, 2002, at 02:11  PM, Bojidar Dimitrov wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> 1. What would be a reasonable price for a really, really clean
> Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 400/4 lens for 6x7?
> 2. What about one with a sizeable dent in the lens hood (rest of the
> lens in LN condition)?  Anyone interested in buying such a lens?

I'm interested, though I doubt I can afford it right now.  No idea about 
the price, though...uh, I mean, I hear they go for about $100 in good 
shape.  ;)

-Aaron
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Re: ??? Price of 400/4 for 6x7

[Aaron Reynolds]

On Sunday, March 31, 2002, at 09:11  PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> ee?
> Among
> my
> favorites:
> "There
> is
> some
> shit
> I
> will
> not
> eat."

God, gotta love ee.  A friend and I built a whole world based on his 
saturnalia.  Liberally interpreted, of course.

-Aaron
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FONG

[Collin Brendemuehl]

Subject: Want to buy parts for Pentax K2  
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 01:37:32 -0800  
From: "Bill Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
Newsgroups: rec.photo.marketplace  

I need the bottom plate complete with the battery screw and holder for a
Pentax K2.  Please email if you have an undamaged one for sale.  Thanks,
Bill



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Re: Closet-LX

[Shel Belinkoff]

CLA = Clean, Lubricate, Adjust.

Even though the camera may seem to work well, and not exhibit any signs
of a sticky mirror, lubricants dry out and age, rubber looses it's
flexibility, the seals and foam may be starting to deteriorate, so
getting these things looked after now, before something obviously goes
awry, is your best long-term investment.  Have the film transport
checked as older LX bodies sometimes suffer from uneven frame spacing,
which, in time, can get worse.  Have the metering system checked too.
Call it preventive maintenance.

Peter Smekal wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the advice Shel!
> Just one stupid question:
> What does CLA mean? Some kind of "complete service" or ...?

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Re: Rome Photo show

[Aaron Reynolds]

http://digilander.iol.it/aohc/pshw2002/psh0208.jpg

Ooh ooh ooh, I see a 67 in the showcase!

-Brother Aaron, ever on the lookout ;)
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Re: Astia Discontinued?

[Aaron Reynolds]

On Saturday, March 30, 2002, at 09:43  AM, Robert Woerner wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Has Fuji discontinued Astia?  I am aware that Sensia is supposedly its
> "consumer" grade equivalent.  Also much cheaper.

Astia is gone.  There is still stock available in 35mm in the Canadian 
market, but no 120 or 4x5.  Last time I ordered from Fuji they still had 
20 roll press packs of 35mm.

Don't know about the Astia-Sensia thing, but since Sensia isn't 
available in 120 I haven't really looked into it, either.  They don't 
have the same product codes or edge marks, while Press 800 and Superia 
800 do, confirming that same-as theory.

-Aaron
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Re: Any experience with Fuji NPC?

[Aaron Reynolds]

On Sunday, March 31, 2002, at 06:00  PM, William Robb wrote:
>
> Quite likely NPS. My bad.

Nah, Fuji's bad for making too many films called NPsomething.  ;)

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Re: Fuji NPS 160-Best ISO setting?

[Aaron Reynolds]

On Friday, March 29, 2002, at 10:06  PM, Mat Maessen wrote:

> I usually shoot the Fuji and kodak "portrait" films at 1/2 to 1 stop 
> over.
> ISO 100 seems to work well w/ Portra 160NC, and an ISO 200-250 with Fuji
> NPH 400, and Kodak Portra 400NC. All of the films seem to get REALLy
> grainy when underexposed. I've not shot the Fuji 160, so I'd be 
> interested
> to see how it turns out.

Whatever is working for you with the others you should apply to NPS as 
well.  NPS, like NPH, has a very narrow exposure latitude, and 
underexposure causes some ugly grain.  Also, I'd have your meters 
checked out, or have a look at your metering technique to discover the 
cause of the 1/2 to 1 stop underexposure.

-Aaron
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Re: Pentax 67 and mechanism-induced camera shake

[Aaron Reynolds]

On Friday, March 29, 2002, at 03:34  AM, Bolo wrote:

> 5) Shutter shake increases noticeably at and slower than 1/60, though
> 1/60 is possible hand-held with good technique.

1/30 is quite possible hand-held with good technique, with or without 
MLU (though it is tougher without MLU).  Did you see the Sgt. & Mrs. 
Pepper picture I posted a while back?  1/30 f2.8, MLU, hand held, room 
light at night with Delta 3200.  Let me know if you want me to repost 
the link.

Welcome to the Brotherhood!  My 67 (non-II, bought in 1998 as the II was 
being introduced) was my first new-new camera, too.  Great feeling, 
ain't it?

-Aaron
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