Re: Best Spotmatic?

2002-04-12 Thread Steve Pearson

I have so many questions about the Spots, but so
little time.  Why are they so liked by everyone?  Did
someone say that Mamiya & Nikon lenses will work with
this camera?  Is that why they are so popular-even
more lenses to find on the used market?  

It appears that they are well built also, as some of
you have had them for a number of years.

Thanks for all the info.
--- Jim Apilado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't know how uncommon they were but the
> Spotmatic IIa with its tie in
> with a Honeywell Strobanar was interesting.  I wish
> I had kept it just
> because it is unusual.  I like my Spotmatic II MD
> body.
> 
> Jim A.
> 
> > From: James Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 22:03:42 -0700
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Best Spotmatic?
> > 
> > I might be biased, but I like Spotmatic F, It's a
> gem of a camera. The
> > Spotmatic SP and Spotmatic 500 are nice as well.
> > 
> > Shame I didn't know last night I could have got
> you an SP, 55/1.8, 28/2.8
> > Hannimex, 200/4.5 Tokina, Mini Tripod, 2x
> Teleconverter + Extension Tube
> > Set, Metz Flash (Charger missing). $100 CDN.
> > 
> > The guy was supposed to pick it up Wednesday, but
> did not come in until this
> > afternoon. I could have gone in this morning and
> bought them, plus six Nikon
> > Pre-EI Nikkor lenses (really cheap) for use with
> my Photomic FTn  They had
> > been promised to a guy from the camera store, but
> if I had gone as I had
> > planned, who knows. You win some, you lose some.
> But I'll keep my eyes open,
> > who knows what might turn up.
> > 
> > Recent Best Buy:-
> > Pentax ME, Bogen HD tripod and Bell & Howell Model
> 40 Flash
> > Sigma 80-200mm/f3.5-22: f4-27 zoom. ($100 CDN)
> > 
> > James
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RE: lens for pz-1

2002-04-12 Thread Jens Bladt

Hi Wayne
The new FA 24-90mm gets a lot of nice words from the critics. Especially
it's supposed to be equally good all the way through the whole zoom range
(better than mid range). The FA 4/28-70mm is discontinued (replaced by the
24-90mm) but is very good/good value for money, but slow. I have the Tokina
ATX PRO II 2.6-2.8/28-70mm. It's brilliant, but about the same price as the
24-90mm, I guess. It's discontinued and replaced by a Tokina ATX 28-80mm,
which I have no info on. I wouldn't buy Sigma lenses due to "plastic build
quality".
I guess, I'd go for the FA 24-90mm (great range, very sharp), if affordable!
Or a Tokina ATX 28-70mm (very crisp) if available. Suddently you'll get
razor sharp, pro-looking photographs!
Jens

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Emne: lens for pz-1


advice for lens choice

i have a pentax pz1
17-28 fisheye lens af
28 mm tokina 2.8 mf
55mm richoh 2.2 mf
35-70mm pentax 2.8 - 3.5 mf
70-210 sigma dl 4-5.6 af

i would like a good autofocus mid range
from these lenses
24-90mm pentax
24-70 sigma 2.8 dg
28 - 70 tokina 2.6-2.8
28 - 70 f4 pentax
what is a good clear crisp lens with little or no distyortion for people and
potraits

also choosing between the following for big lens
80 - 400mm tokina
170 - 500mm sigma 6.3
100 - 300m tokina f4
this is for wildlife

wayne
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Re[3]: We missed it :-(

2002-04-12 Thread Bruce Dayton

Yeah, I'm getting much better at spotting 35mm vs MF in magazines and
prints.  It is obvious even at 4X6 - the color gradation, richness and
detail are evident.  It really makes it worthwhile to heft the weight
and bulk around when you get results like that.


Bruce Dayton



Friday, April 12, 2002, 10:29:56 PM, you wrote:

CB> On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Bruce Dayton wrote:

>> The high number of ebay transactions that he had (780ish).  I know
>> that there are a few who actually would be buying personally with that
>> large number, but I'll bet there are more who are buying and selling
>> with numbers like that.


CB> Good point.  Still, with P67 stuff you never know.  I bought mine for an
CB> incredibly low price just so I could sell it on eBay and pay off a credit
CB> card or two.  But Bill Casselberry had sent me some 6x7 slides in one of
CB> his evil moods, so I ran some E100VS (or Provia 100F?) through my
CB> 6x7--only to make sure that it worked before I sold it--and when I saw the
CB> slides I couldn't bear to part with the camera.  :)

CB> chris
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Re: Best Deal Ever?

2002-04-12 Thread Kevin Waterson

I dont know that it was my best deal ever, but
the one that gave me greates delight was a K1000 listed
on ebay as old camera. On the image of the 'old camera'
sat the K1000, flash, and a Takumar 135mm f2.5. $55.00
Not the greatest of lenses as I have a pentax 135 2.8
but, now I am on hte search for a f2 or similar 135mm


Kevin
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Re[2]: We missed it :-(

2002-04-12 Thread Chris Brogden

On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Bruce Dayton wrote:

> The high number of ebay transactions that he had (780ish).  I know
> that there are a few who actually would be buying personally with that
> large number, but I'll bet there are more who are buying and selling
> with numbers like that.


Good point.  Still, with P67 stuff you never know.  I bought mine for an
incredibly low price just so I could sell it on eBay and pay off a credit
card or two.  But Bill Casselberry had sent me some 6x7 slides in one of
his evil moods, so I ran some E100VS (or Provia 100F?) through my
6x7--only to make sure that it worked before I sold it--and when I saw the
slides I couldn't bear to part with the camera.  :)

chris
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Re: We missed it :-(

2002-04-12 Thread Steve Pearson

Wow, is that ever depressing.  Reminds me of the ME
special edition w/ the 40mm pancake for $50 that I
recently passed up.  Went back the next day to get it
and of course it was gone by then.

:(((

--- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - Original Message - 
> From: Steve Pearson 
> Subject: Re: We missed it :-(
> 
> 
> > Just out of curiousity, what was the buy it now
> price?
> >  I missed it also :(
> 
> US$650
> William Robb
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Re: Uhhhhh...crack smoker?

2002-04-12 Thread John Glover

Hi Paul,

I did the same and received a similiar note.  It just sounds as if this guy
just did not know Pentax.  As you said, seems a nice guy, just misinformed
by someone.

He also rasied a question to me about whether Pentax ever made a body with
six pins for the flash contacts.  He has been given a flash, supposedly
Pentax Z series compatible, but it has six pins on the shoe.  My PZ-1p has 4
contacts, the AF500FTZ has four pins, as I've never seen a n AF360FGZ, I'd
assume it has at least one more to account for the additional features, but
a six flash contact body?  I tentatively told him no Pentax body I was aware
of has six flash contacts.

John


> Folks:  FYI
>
> Wrote a note to this gentlemen, and tried to be friendly, regarding
questions
> on this issue and a brief, to the best of my knowledge, note about the
caps,
> K mounts and availability.
>
> He did reply, friendly, and indicated that he had received two other
messages
> on the same topic.  He indicates, and I haven't checked yet, that he has
> changed his auction notice to reflect the new information.
>
> Seems to be a nice guy, just more familiar with other brands and was
making
> the same assumption with Pentax.  WE may have a "convert" here as a
result.
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Re: We missed it :-(

2002-04-12 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Steve Pearson 
Subject: Re: We missed it :-(


> Just out of curiousity, what was the buy it now price?
>  I missed it also :(

US$650
William Robb
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pentax takumar 500mm f4.5 and vivitar series 1 90mm 2.5

2002-04-12 Thread ww

i have the chance to buy these lenses
are they any good
especially the takumar

wayne
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Re: Owl Pic (1000mm SMC Tak)

2002-04-12 Thread James Adams

I love it Steve,
Great shot.
They are around here, but don't spot them very often. 
James

- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 6:01 PM
Subject: Owl Pic (1000mm SMC Tak)


> Hi, 
>  If anyone would like to see a Great Horned Owl pic taken last
> weekend in Palm Springs:
> http://www27.brinkster.com/stevelarson/Great%20Horned%20Owl
> 
> Comments welcome, of course.
> Steve Larson
> Redondo Beach, California
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Re: We missed it :-(

2002-04-12 Thread Steve Pearson

Just out of curiousity, what was the buy it now price?
 I missed it also :(


--- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can't believe I missed this one. I was watching
> ebay for new items
> today. And how about the rest of you brothers? Was
> everyone sleeping.
> Yes, it's a 67 package, and it's the deal of a
> lifetime. Read it and weep.
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1345946641
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lens for pz-1

2002-04-12 Thread ww

advice for lens choice

i have a pentax pz1
17-28 fisheye lens af
28 mm tokina 2.8 mf
55mm richoh 2.2 mf
35-70mm pentax 2.8 - 3.5 mf
70-210 sigma dl 4-5.6 af

i would like a good autofocus mid range
from these lenses
24-90mm pentax
24-70 sigma 2.8 dg
28 - 70 tokina 2.6-2.8
28 - 70 f4 pentax
what is a good clear crisp lens with little or no distyortion for people and
potraits

also choosing between the following for big lens
80 - 400mm tokina
170 - 500mm sigma 6.3
100 - 300m tokina f4
this is for wildlife

wayne
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MX Meter repair

2002-04-12 Thread Jim Fellows

I may have a chance to pick up an MX with a meter that does not work.  Does
anybody have any idea what a repair would cost and if it is even possible.
Everything else seems to work fine.  What whould be a decent price for one
that shaws moderate wear with the broken meter?

Thanks,

Jim Fellows
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Re: Uhhhhh...crack smoker?

2002-04-12 Thread Chris McNutt

I've seen this guy before-
http://www.craigslist.org/best/2419275.html


- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Knobbe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:15 PM
Subject: Uh...crack smoker?


> This guy must be insane:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1345771159
> 
> steve
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Re: My 6x7 Buy of the Century!

2002-04-12 Thread William Kane

Evan,

   It's nice to see I wasn't the only one on the list lookgin at this
camera.  I'm just glad that I won it, even though it will likely cost me a
bit more to set it up with a lens, repairs and eventually a prism . . . .

Bill

Evan Hanson wrote:

> Bill, I'm so glad another PDMLer got this one.  I was about to
> bid when by boss walked into my office to discuss medical
> insurance problems. When I saw it went for 64 there was a loud
> groan in my office.
>
> Evan
>
> William Kane wrote:
> >
> > Hey gang,
> >
> >   http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1343911862
> >
> >   6x7 camera no prisim, no lenses.  Sounds like the advance is sticky.
> > Anyone have any idea on what this might be and how easy/cheap it might
> > be to fix this?
> >
> >Now all I need to do is figure out which prisim I need (and a lens).
> > Can I get ANY 67, 6X7 or 67II prisim?
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > Illinois Bill
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Re: Winders

2002-04-12 Thread Jim Fellows

I picked up an MDA off of ebay last week for $76.00.  It works greet.
(takes 8 AA batteries)

Jim Fellows
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From: "Alan Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: Winders


> >Sorry for the incessant questions- one more and I'll be
> >good to go for a while. :-)
> >
> >Which winder/motor drive would you get- Winder MEII or
> >the Motor Drive A, for a Super A? With these bits being
> >out of production, I'm concerned about durability.
> >
> >Granted I can buy nearly two MEIIs for the price of one
> >MD A.
>
> I would properly buy the MDA which gives better handling. However, it's
also
> heavier (not a major concern) and really loud. 2 things can be boken on
MDA
> is the switch on the Battery Pack A, and a piece of rubber inside the MDA
> could be aging. Pentax might not have parts anymore but you can custom
made
> one (I did that without problem).
>
> regards,
> Alan Chan
>
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Re: PENTAX need to move soon

2002-04-12 Thread Rob Studdert

On 12 Apr 2002 at 21:03, Len Zedel wrote:

> Am I to understand then that you can get a digital back for a pentax 645?
> I know that one of my friends has a digital back for one of his medium
> format cameras (mamiya?)

Hi Len,

I beleive that there are no digital backs available for Pentax MF as yet.

> Why isn't a digital back available for one of the K-mount cameras (my
> preferance would be the LX).  A friend of mine recently acquired Nikons
> digital SLR for work, this thing looks like an SLR, even sounds like an
> SLR (I wonder to extend that was marketing).  The only thing about it is
> that the digital sensor is half the size of a 35 mm frame and so everthing
> is half sized in the view finder.  If we could get a full framed digital
> sensor that fit onto the back of a 35 mm camera it seems to me that we
> could have the best of both worlds.

The most fundamental reason is that it wouldn't be economically viable. 
Secondly there are quite difficult technical design considerations, the most 
prevalent of these being that size of the full frame sensor and its associated 
glass protection covers won't allow any lens to achieve infinity focus if it 
were rested on the film rails. There would also be great difficulties in 
interfacing the essentially mechanical shutter with the electronic digital 
imaging system.

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
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Re: Re[2]: PENTAX need to move soon (long rant)

2002-04-12 Thread Rob Studdert

On 12 Apr 2002 at 9:31, Bruce Dayton wrote:

> Mishka,
> 
> Interesting perspective.  Earlier, I was also enamored by digital.  I
> ended up with a Nikon Coolpix 990 and have taken 3000 pictures or so.
> The quality is ok, but no better than you said.  For me, picture
> quality and control really came forward as things that are important
> to me.  The instant part was usually to overcome the weaknesses of the
> digital P&S.

Hi Team,

I've been quiet for a bit but I'll bite on this one. I've been using digital 
(Olympus E-10, optical SLR, w/ full manual focus and exposure options) fairly 
intensely since last November. I must say that there are areas where digital 
imaging shines but overall I have found that film still has a mighty edge over 
digital WRT picture quality and resolution (pixel count is of minimal concern).

Aside from the obvious advantages of digital like immediate image availability 
and lack of film/processing costs I have found digital cameras brilliant for 
shooting still life and macro images particularly where you have plenty of 
light with good control (little need for flash). Also the generally small 
sensor size and reduced focal lengths of the non-interchangeable lens digital 
cameras provides excellent macro DOF as a great side benefit.

The potential for learning though experimentation with lighting is excellent as 
is the fact that colour temperature offsets can be easily applied with out the 
need for optical filters.

However digital imaging sensors are slow, you might as well disregard the array 
of ISO settings and leave any digital camera set to it's minimum ISO setting as 
image quality degrades significantly as the ISO is increased regardless of 
hyped techno innovations. 

The trade-offs of setting the ISO of a digital camera to a higher speed are 
similar to pushing film but more so as often errors like dark noise, hot pixels 
and banding become prevalent. Be aware too that shooting digital is like 
shooting slide since once the highlights are saturated all detail is 
obfuscated.

In my experience photographic exploits that require good photographic quality 
on media with a speed faster than 80-100 ISO are best shot on film where the 
images aren't required for immediate distribution. This is based on my 
experience with over seven digital cameras now including the very recent Canon 
PowerShot S40 4MP PnS.

I'd love a Pentax digital body and I expect to pay a lot for it but it won't 
supersede my use of film. Lets hope that the Pentax engineers spend time 
concentrating on quality image delivery, user interface and processing speed 
than simply joining the pixel count war.

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
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Owl Pic (1000mm SMC Tak)

2002-04-12 Thread Steve Larson

Hi, 
 If anyone would like to see a Great Horned Owl pic taken last
weekend in Palm Springs:
http://www27.brinkster.com/stevelarson/Great%20Horned%20Owl

Comments welcome, of course.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
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Re: ME Repair Manual?

2002-04-12 Thread Rfsindg

Glenn,

The return spring on the ME is notorious.  I had one break years ago.  The 
repair was expensive because the bit of spring got into the gears of the 
winding mechanism.  

It would be a good idea to remove the broken part.  You will learn to live 
with pushing the rewind lever back in.  

Regards,  Bob S.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Is the repair manual for the ME one of the ones that has been 
 scanned and put online already?
 
 
 I've got an ME that suffered a fall a while back (I've since 
 switched brand of camera strap, as the style I was using 
 managed to let go of two different cameras on different 
 occasions).  Everything seems to work fine except for one 
 annoying detail:  after I advance the film, I have to push
 the lever back into place myself; it no longer returns on
 its own.
 
 Someone (Fred?) suggested that it was probably a spring 
 having gotten knocked loose in the bottom, so this afternoon
 I finally pulled the bottom plate off, and sure enough, there's
 the return spring in plain sight.  The end that attaches to 
 the chassis appears to be properly connected, which means it
 must have come loose from the shaft (it doesn't look like it's
 coiling when I cock the shutter, so I figure it is in fact a
 knocked-loose spring problem instead of something else getting
 bent and creating too much friction or something).
 
 What I can't see is how to get at the attachment point without
 making a bunch of other, tinier springs go sproing.  I'm at
 the point now where I have to decide a) whether to press forward,
 b) whether to close the thing back up and live with it as it is,
 or c) hope that I can save up enough for a professional repair
 before it absolutely drives me crazy.  (Note that this is my
 number four K-mount body, so I shouldn't have to deal with it
 all _that_ often ... but it does get its share of film run
 through it anyhow.)
 
 Has anyone else here done this repair on an ME or another body
 in which that section of the mechanism is the same as an ME?
 Pointers?  Clues? >>
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Re: Whats your most used Camera?

2002-04-12 Thread Rob Studdert

On 12 Apr 2002 at 15:51, Paul Jones wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Okay we just had what are your favourite 5 Pentax Bodies, now for a new
> question.
> 
> What is your most used camera body, can be just of recent or over your whole
> time as a photographer. It doesnt have to be a Pentax, but i assume most of them
> will be.

Pentax LX most used, longest serving +15 yrs 

Leica M6 parallel with LX over the last three years (in combo with the 
35f1.4ASPH for about 85% of shots)

Oly E-10, since Nov 2001, shot around 5000 shots, great for macro, static 
product shots and party snaps.

I have deviated over the last 8 years buying kits of Contax however ended up 
not living up to expectations, so back to Pentax for my SLR kit, won't buy into 
any other brands again unless Pentax can't get their digital act together soon.

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
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Anxious to see this one

2002-04-12 Thread Bill Owens

While driving down the Blue Ridge Parkway this afternoon, I happened to see
a wild turkey standing just off the road.  Stopped the truck in the middle
of the road, jumped out with the MZ-S/Tamron 75-300 and started looking
through the brush.  She started running, then went airborne close enough to
fill slightly more that half the frame.  Only got one shot in though before
she disappeared over the tree line.  Unfortunately, it was frame 2 of a 36
exposure roll of Portra 160VC.  Hopefully it will stop raining long enough
for me to finish at least most of the roll over the weekend.

Bill  KG4LOV
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We missed it :-(

2002-04-12 Thread Paul Stenquist

I can't believe I missed this one. I was watching ebay for new items
today. And how about the rest of you brothers? Was everyone sleeping.
Yes, it's a 67 package, and it's the deal of a lifetime. Read it and weep.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1345946641
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Grandfather Mountain Nature Photo Weekend

2002-04-12 Thread Bill Owens

For those of you who are planning on attending and anyone who thinks they
might be able to make it, here's the schedule for this year's event.  If you
haven't already notified me that you are coming, please do so ASAP. We need
a fairly accurate account to determine the amount of food(pizza)/drink(beer
and sodas) to provide.  The PDML'ers will need to turn their film in at
1:00pm instead of 2:00.  Our Pentax rep has graciously accepted to meet with
us beginning at 1:15 at the cabin in the picnic area. He will gladly answer
any questions that he is able to or permitted to, and will probably have
some neat door prizes for those PDML'ers in attendance.

And yes, that is our own Mark Roberts giving the presentation on Sunday
morning.

Bill  KG4LOV
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Friday, May 31
3:00 - 7:00pm   Check In and Registration at Grandfather Mountain
office.   Pick up free roll of film and begin making photographs for
contest.
7:30pm - Welcome - Don Nelson, Hugh Morton and TEAM intros in Museum
Theater.
8:00pm - Dr. William A. Bake, Mountain Photographer Extraordinaire

Saturday, June 1st
5:30am - Entrance open for sunrise
8:30-10:00am - Registration for stragglers at Grandfather Mountain
offices
2pm - Contest film turn in deadline at Museum gift shop.   Special
registration film bag  with assigned competition
number must be turned in with film.
3:30pm to 5:00pm - Book signings, Museum lobby
5:30pm - Supper in Museum restaurant
7:00pm - Bill Fortney, America from 500 Feet

Sunday, June 2nd
5:30am - Entrance open for sunrise photos
8:00am - Pick up processed slides, Museum restaurant
9:00am - Turn in deadline for contest entries.  Competition categories
include Wildflower, Scenic, Animals in Nature and Animals in Habitats.
9:15am - Eye opener
9:30am - 11:00 am Mark Roberts, A primer on digital imaging
11:30am (approx.) - Awards
12:15pm (approx.) - Pickup non-winning slides

For more information please contact Grandfather Mountain office at
828-733-2013.
To pre-register before May 20 send name, address, and check for $50 to:
 Grandfather Mountain, PO Box 129, Linville, NC 28646
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Re: WTB: Light Table

2002-04-12 Thread frank theriault

Thanks, Bill,

Great idea, and cost effective, too.  Of course I have Canadian Tire
money!  What Canadian doesn't?  Whenever the question comes up:  what's
the difference between Canadians and Americans, I always bring that one
up.  I think I'll go have a Molson Export and watch a Hockey Game now.
Hey, the Habs made the playoffs!!  Woo hoo.

regards,
frank

William Robb wrote:

> Unless you really need a daylight balanced light table (most of
> us don't), go out to Canadian Tire and pick up a florescent
> worklight designed to hang under a kitchen cupboard.
> They cost about 20 bucks, less if you have Canadian Tire 
>
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OT: Little perks

2002-04-12 Thread Brian Campbell (PM)

Stopped by one of the local photo suppliers
today just before they closed (actually they were
putting the key in to lock the door when I opened 
it...)

I bought 20 rolls of 3200 delta in 120 format.  The 
sales guy said "Hey - you're my last sale of the day"
to which I replied, "Cool!  Do I get a bonus?"  He
gave a good deal on the film, remembered my 
tax number, and threw in a T-Shirt as well.

May have to shop there more often!

Just my little rant for Friday Afternoon.

Cheers!
BC
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Re: PENTAX need to move soon

2002-04-12 Thread Len Paris

- Original Message -
From: "Len Zedel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: PENTAX need to move soon


> On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Len Paris wrote:
>
> > If you ever see a full=frame 6 X 4.5 Foveon chip in a Pentax
> > 645n back, you'll see the pros, including PJs flock to it.
> >
>
> Am I to understand then that you can get a digital back for a
pentax 645?
> I know that one of my friends has a digital back for one of
his medium
> format cameras (mamiya?)

No.  That's why I said, "If you ever...".  There isn't one.

Len
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Re: Re:Tamron adaptall overexposes

2002-04-12 Thread Jeff

As a matter of fact I'm going to do the same with my recently acquired SP
70-210/3.5-4. It looks good, I just hope it performs well with my SP (I'm
afraid to take my just acquired LX to the Toronto PDML Downtown get
together).

Jeff.

> I also have the Tamron adaptall with 70-210 lens.  I just bought it and am
> testing it right now.  I'll let you know what the results are after I
> process the film.
>
>
> Francis
>
>
> Kari Tuomi wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have Tamron 135 mm f2.8 lense with P/KA adaptal mount. It tends to
> overexpose with both of my bodies (MZ-5n and Z-1p). Overexposure is at
> least

I'm surprised that you are using the Adaptall mount on the Z-1p. I heard
horror stories of it getting stuck to the body, and needing to be
dismantled. I never used my off brand lenses with my Z-1p.

Jeff
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Re: Collecting cameras

2002-04-12 Thread wendy beard

I collect cameras in a squirrelly sort of fashion.
I kept buying MXs because I liked them, then I realised I couldn't possibly 
use them all so now I only have 3. When I got the black MX then I just had 
to have the black ME Super. And of course what goes with a black MX and an 
LX? Yep, a black KX. I am a random impulse buyer.
My only real collection is of Kershaw folders, which of course includes the 
obligatory 110, penguin and king penguin. Still looking for a Raven - so if 
anyone knows of one for sale.

Wendy

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Re: WTB: Light Table

2002-04-12 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: wendy beard
Subject: Re: WTB: Light Table


> >
> >Try this, glass coffee table with white sheet of
> >paper, florescent lamp ( daylight corrected ) under
> >it. Works untill you get a rea llight table.
>
> But wouldn't it be more expensive to buy the coffee table and
fluorescent
> lamp than it would just to go out and get a real light table?

Unless you really need a daylight balanced light table (most of
us don't), go out to Canadian Tire and pick up a florescent
worklight designed to hang under a kitchen cupboard.
They cost about 20 bucks, less if you have Canadian Tire 

William Robb
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RE: FA*80-200/2.8 ED (IF)

2002-04-12 Thread William D. Sawyer

I paid $1269 for mine from KEH. This is a terrific price...

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug Brewer
> Sent: April 12, 2002 3:40 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: FS: FA*80-200/2.8 ED (IF)
> 
> 
>  
> $975 plus shipping
> 
> Own the legend.
> 
> Doug
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Re: PENTAX need to move soon (long rant)

2002-04-12 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Jens Bladt
Subject: RE: PENTAX need to move soon (long rant)


> High end SLR diggies are for pro's due to the high cost/low
image quality. These people don't use Pentax, but Nikon or
Canon.

Bravo I have long felt that way about Nikon and Canon.
Now they move that philosophy to digital.
WW
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RE: Best flatbed scanner for B&W prints?

2002-04-12 Thread J. C. O'Connell

Not ALL of the cheapies are good, my ACER sucks, thats
why I switched to the Epson. Maybe theres something wrong
with it? B&W scans come out too contrasty and dark on
the ACER.
 
JCO

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 3:03 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Best flatbed scanner for B&W prints?
> 
> 
> My experience suggests that almost anything can do a decent scan on an
> 8x10 BW print. It's pretty much a no brainer. Even the 1200 dpi scans
> from my puny Epson 1200 are just fine when resized for the web. 
> Paul
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Re: Tamron adaptall overexposes

2002-04-12 Thread GBaumg3568

>>>Hi,

I have Tamron 135 mm f2.8 lense with P/KA adaptal mount. It tends to
overexpose with both of my bodies (MZ-5n and Z-1p). Overexposure is at
least
1 stop. Does anyone else has such a trouble with Tamron adaptals?

Kari<<<

Kari,

Four or five years ago I had a similar experience with some of my Pentax A 
lenses when shooting them in Hyperprogam mode on my PZ-1 and PZ-1p.  The only 
lens I specifically remember was a Pentax A 70-210 f4 but I believe I had at 
least a few other lenses that produced overexposed slides (1 to 1.5 stops).  
This did not seem to happen if the camera was in center weight metering (I 
can not remember about spot).  You can always set your camera to compensate 
by under exposing but I found the simplest thing to do was to put the body on 
center weight metering when using non F or FA lenses.  I can not remember if  
I noticed this on my ZX-5n.

This was discussed by members of this group 4 or 5 years ago but that was 
back when Pentax Discuss was on the Pentax web site and I would assume those 
proceeding have long since been lost, forever lost in cyberspace.  Even if 
they do exist I would think they would be very hard to find.

The two thing I remember from these discussions where (1) Not everyone 
experienced the problem and (2) When overexposure did happen, the most 
commonly  proposed cause was a difference in the programing of the PZ series 
bodies compared to earlier ones (those with chips of course).  As I said 
earlier, I think this was unique to Hyper Program Mode.

All of this rambling assumes you are shooting slides and have the camera in 
Hyper Program.  If you are doing these thing, try a roll on center wieght 
metering.

Good Luck.

George Baumgardner
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Re: AF 360 FGZ - opinions?

2002-04-12 Thread Bill Owens

Between Photos with Santa and Photos with the Easter Bunny, I exposed at
least 150 frames using the AF360FGZ on the MZ-S hotshoe and I haven't seen
any redeye yet.

Bill  KG4LOV
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- Original Message -
From: "Emilio Puga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 6:56 PM
Subject: RE: AF 360 FGZ - opinions?


> Take a lot of care with red eye, realy a problem with AF360 fgz and
> Mz-S.
>
> -Mensaje original-
> De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> En nombre de Bruce Dayton
> Enviado el: viernes, 12 de abril de 2002 18:18
> Para: Sylwester Pietrzyk
> Asunto: Re: AF 360 FGZ - opinions?
>
> Sylwester,
>
> The 360FGZ advantages show themselves on the MZ-S or in control
> situations.  It can do P-TTL, TTL, Automatic (built in sensor,
> multiple f-stop ranges),Manual with power output settings.  It can
> also participate in multi-flash (wireless and wired) TTL setups with
> each flash set to different power level - all TTL.  No other flash
> that Pentax makes comes close to doing these kinds of things.  The
> FTZ's don't have multi-power manual settings or any automatic modes.
> The 500FTZ does have two advantages - more GN power and full tilt,
> swivel.  So if all you are doing is clipping the flash onto the PZ-1p,
> there probably isn't much advantage or maybe even a disadvantage (less
> power, no swivel).  But, if you take the flash off camera and/or use
> multiple flashes and/or use an MZ-S or the new ZX-L? then there are
> lots of advantages.
>
> HTH
>
>
> Bruce Dayton
>
> P.S. Any questions let me know.  I have 3 of them and use them in
> single and multi-flash setups on both the MZ-S and the P67II.
>
>
>
> Friday, April 12, 2002, 4:19:59 AM, you wrote:
>
> SP> Hello,
> SP> can users of this small beauty write me something about using it?
> How does
> SP> it compare to older flashes (light distribution)? Dooes anybody use
> it with
> SP> Z1P? TIA!
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Re: PENTAX need to move soon

2002-04-12 Thread Len Zedel

On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Len Paris wrote:

> If you ever see a full=frame 6 X 4.5 Foveon chip in a Pentax
> 645n back, you'll see the pros, including PJs flock to it.
> 

Am I to understand then that you can get a digital back for a pentax 645?
I know that one of my friends has a digital back for one of his medium
format cameras (mamiya?)

Why isn't a digital back available for one of the K-mount cameras (my
preferance would be the LX).  A friend of mine recently acquired Nikons
digital SLR for work, this thing looks like an SLR, even sounds like an
SLR (I wonder to extend that was marketing).  The only thing about it is
that the digital sensor is half the size of a 35 mm frame and so everthing
is half sized in the view finder.  If we could get a full framed digital
sensor that fit onto the back of a 35 mm camera it seems to me that we
could have the best of both worlds.

Len Zedel
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RE: Who to believe ?

2002-04-12 Thread Jens Bladt

Hi
When your'e using a zoom, the effective aperture shown in the CAMERA
display/viewfinder is RIGHT - The aperture ring on the camera doesn't "know"
how far you have zoomed. This occures when you use a zoom that does not have
the same aperture all the way through the zoom range (like the 3.5-5.6): 3.5
at 28mm, and 5.6 at 80mm. When using non TTL-flash this is a small problem.
That's one of the reasons, that zoom lenses with constant aperture often are
prefered!
Regards
Jens

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Emne: Who to believe ?


When my Pentax MZ-5n tells me I am at a given aperture, and the aperture
ring on my zoom is on another aperture, which aperture am I really using ?
The zoom is a Sigma 28-80 3.5-5.6 II Macro.
I give an example : I set the aperture ring on 5.6, the LED tells me I am
at 9.5 at 80mm, 8.0 at 50mm, 6.7 at 35mm and 5.6 at 28mm. The exposure time
changes accordingly.
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Re: WTB: Light Table

2002-04-12 Thread wendy beard

At 10:38 12-4-2002 -0400, you wrote:
>From: Brendan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: WTB:  Light Table
>
>Try this, glass coffee table with white sheet of
>paper, florescent lamp ( daylight corrected ) under
>it. Works untill you get a rea llight table.

But wouldn't it be more expensive to buy the coffee table and fluorescent 
lamp than it would just to go out and get a real light table?

Wendy
(coffeetableless in Canada)
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Re: Light Table

2002-04-12 Thread Jim Fellows

Depending on how big of one you want, try printing or pre press companies.
Wit computer to plate technology being used, many shops are willing to give
away many of there old light tables.

Jim Fellows
- Original Message -
From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:43 AM
Subject: WTB: Light Table


> Anyone have one they're looking to get rid of?  I'm interested.  Contact
> me off list with details.  Thanks.
>
> regards,
> frank
>
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cases & quietness

2002-04-12 Thread wendy beard

At 10:38 12-4-2002 -0400, Bob Rapp wrote:
>Ya know, since cameras are not sold or used with cases these days, a camera
>quiets down very nicely with the lower half of the case mounted on the
>camera. Pentax even made a case where there was a flap for the shutter
>release and a hole for the lens to protrude.

I use cases with my cameras, old and new.
Bought one for my son's MZ-10 and just recently for the MZ-S.
(no, Mick, I'm afraid it doesn't fit with the BG-10 grip!)
You may have a point though. My LX doesn't have a case (coz a new one costs 
60 quid!) and it is noticeably noiser than all the others. On second 
thoughts, it's probably just a noisy camera.

Wendy

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Re: Used Flashes

2002-04-12 Thread Cameron Hood

I am buying a used ftz 500. What is the life expectancy of the bulb, and can
they be replaced, and if so, are they really expensive?

Also, for an extra $75.00 Cdn., I could buy a new 360 FTZ. Am I better off
with the 500? I use a PZ1-P.

Thanks,
Cameron
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Re: Best flatbed scanner for B&W prints?

2002-04-12 Thread Paul Stenquist

My experience suggests that almost anything can do a decent scan on an
8x10 BW print. It's pretty much a no brainer. Even the 1200 dpi scans
from my puny Epson 1200 are just fine when resized for the web. 
Paul

Bruce Dayton wrote:
> 
> Compared to nothing, it is a great scanner!  I thought it did quite
> well with prints and reasonable with negatives.  Not so hot with
> slides, but that is nothing new to me.  I have never been able to scan
> slides to my satisfaction.  For web work, the negative scanning is
> probably adequate.  For printing 8X10's, I thought it was lacking
> sharpness.  My 35mm film scans were looking sharper.  I only tried
> scanning 120 slides and negatives - never 35mm.
> 
> Bruce Dayton
> 
> Friday, April 12, 2002, 12:25:14 AM, you wrote:
> 
> JCOC> Well my intention was to use it as a BW print scanner.
> JCOC> The film scanning is a bonus as I dont have a film
> JCOC> scanner at all. If nothing else I can use it for
> JCOC> web use for film and making contact sheets. If its really
> JCOC> bad, I'll just return it like you did and get a print
> JCOC> only scanner. BTW, did you find something better?
> JCOC> JCO
> 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bruce Dayton
> >> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:38 AM
> >> To: David Chang-Sang
> >> Subject: Re[2]: Best flatbed scanner for B&W prints?
> >>
> >>
> >> David,
> >>
> >> I just returned one of these units.  I found that the scans of film to
> >> be just too soft for my comfort.  Print scanning was good.  I am used
> >> to a film scanner and just wasn't happy with the output.  It did seem
> >> like a nice flatbed though.
> >>
> >>
> >> Bruce Dayton
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thursday, April 11, 2002, 9:41:50 PM, you wrote:
> >>
> >> DCS> JC,
> >>
> >> DCS> My next flatbed will be an Epson.
> >> DCS> Probably the Perfection 2450 as it seems to be the one that
> >> does the job.
> >> DCS> Cost is about $350-400 US max
> >>
> >> DCS> Has USB and Firewire; 2400dpi, 3.3Dmax (which is up there
> >> with some of the
> >> DCS> decent film scanners), 16 bit Grayscale depth.
> >>
> >> DCS> http://www.virtualtraveller.org/epson2450.htm  is a good review with
> >> DCS> comparisons to the Acer Scanwit(film scanner) and other scanners plus
> >> DCS> there's a look at how it handles B&W.
> >>
> >>
> >> DCS> Cheers,
> >> DCS> Dave
> >>
> >> DCS> -Original Message-
> >> DCS> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> DCS> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of J. C. O'Connell
> >> DCS> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:16 AM
> >> DCS> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> DCS> Subject: Best flatbed scanner for B&W prints?
> >>
> >>
> >> DCS> I'm totally frustrated by my piece of shit
> >> DCS> ACER flatbed scanner ( only paid $79 for it).
> >> DCS> It adds too much contrast to my B&W prints.
> >> DCS> The lightest tones scan as pure white and
> >> DCS> pure black scanns as dark grey. VERY non linear.
> >> DCS> It also scans overall slightly dark for some reason which
> >> DCS> sucks. The blown out highlites cant be fixed
> >> DCS> in photoshop...
> >>
> >> DCS> I'm looking to buy the best quality flatbed
> >> DCS> for say $300. I would like a USB and/or Firewire
> >> DCS> connection and 1200dpi would be nice, but most
> >> DCS> of all i want a very good gray scale. I think the
> >> DCS> spec that's important is desity range or DMAX.
> >>
> >> DCS> I want the best
> >> DCS> possible gray scale as I'm getting into B&W
> >> DCS> and its nice to be able to use the prints on the web.
> >>
> >> DCS> Any suggestions? HP? Canon?
> >> DCS> JCO
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Re: Significant others and Pentax (was: pro or hobby)

2002-04-12 Thread Familie Scheffler

In january my wife bought a Pentax optio 430 (from her own money). So I
thought it would be the right time to spend my money for the 77mm limited the
PDML had me made lust after. There was no serious discussion. (Just a grin now
every time I am thinking about what equipment I would like lugging around 
)

Bernd

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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 13:31:54 -0400
From: Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Significant others and Pentax (was: pro or hobby)

> My EX-wife never "allowed" me freedom or free time to pursue
> photography so I  was languishing for several years in the mid
> nineties.  Now she is my EX My current wife supports and
> encourages me to have creative outlets.  She is my current subject
> (semi-willing) for my experimentation with portraiture in  my
> low-budget home studio (basement). She encouraged me to bid on a
> $700+ lens on eBay and was disappointed when I lost but happy when
> I won the "consolation prize" of another lens for less  money 5
> minutes later. So, in response to your question, I have nothing to
> "manage" and have no need to sneak around to purchase lenses, etc.
> I feel that I am one of the lucky  ones.

Christian, if you could clone your wife, you could make a fortune
selling copies of her to PDML list members - .

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Re: Vivitar 2x macro focusing tele converter

2002-04-12 Thread Fred

> Mind you, you won't be able to focus at infinitity; the Vivitar
> not something you'll want to keep on your lens at all times.

Actually, I've never had a problem focusing to infinity.  With the
helicoid racked all the way in, it acts just like a "regular" 2X TC.
But, with the helicoid racked out to various degrees, the lens/TC
combination gets into macro focusing ranges.

Fred
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RE: ME Repair Manual?

2002-04-12 Thread Mark Roberts

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>I know I ought to bookmark these things the first time I see them, but...
>Is the repair manual for the ME one of the ones that has been 
>scanned and put online already?

Yes, indeed!
http://www.robertstech.com/pentax.htm

>I've got an ME that suffered a fall a while back (I've since 
>switched brand of camera strap, as the style I was using 
>managed to let go of two different cameras on different 
>occasions).  Everything seems to work fine except for one 
>annoying detail:  after I advance the film, I have to push
>the lever back into place myself; it no longer returns on
>its own.
>
>Someone (Fred?) suggested that it was probably a spring 
>having gotten knocked loose in the bottom, so this afternoon
>I finally pulled the bottom plate off, and sure enough, there's
>the return spring in plain sight.  The end that attaches to 
>the chassis appears to be properly connected, which means it
>must have come loose from the shaft (it doesn't look like it's
>coiling when I cock the shutter, so I figure it is in fact a
>knocked-loose spring problem instead of something else getting
>bent and creating too much friction or something).
>
>What I can't see is how to get at the attachment point without
>making a bunch of other, tinier springs go sproing.  I'm at
>the point now where I have to decide a) whether to press forward,
>b) whether to close the thing back up and live with it as it is,
>or c) hope that I can save up enough for a professional repair
>before it absolutely drives me crazy.  (Note that this is my
>number four K-mount body, so I shouldn't have to deal with it
>all _that_ often ... but it does get its share of film run
>through it anyhow.)
>
>Has anyone else here done this repair on an ME or another body
>in which that section of the mechanism is the same as an ME?

I've done it on an ME but I don't remember exactly what I did. I believe
there's a spring one end of which had slipped off the arm it was supposed
to push against. As I recall it was a reassembly error on my part after
repairing something else. 

>Pointers?  Clues?

BTW: THe ME mechanism is different from the ME Super and I believe all the
other electronic "M" cameras used the ME Super type mechanism.
-- 
Mark Roberts
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Re: Paparatzzi?

2002-04-12 Thread frank theriault

Nice shots, Brendan.  Toronto girl makes good - well, I don't know if
she's originally from here, but she worked here before making it big in
the US.  I don't know if you remember, or ever knew, but she was one of
the hosts of the TVO kid's show Polka Dot Door.  When my kids were young
enough to watch it (it's the most boring show on TV, but toddlers are
entranced) I, being the good parent, would sit down and watch it with
them.

I did that, of course, because it's good for kids to watch TV with their
parents.  And, with Tonya Lee Williams to look at, I could put up with
boring. 

regards,
frank

Brendan wrote:

> Just a few keepers from the film festival, Tonya Lee
> Williams, aka Olivia from YNR.
>
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> http://webhome.idirect.com/~trini/photo/tonya3.jpg
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Re: Re: Re: Slashdotted! Amy Hughes Lego Church

2002-04-12 Thread David Brooks

I just found it confusing to work in,and what 
Pat said.

Dave
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"Nitin Garg" wrote:
>Whats wrong with /. ? I have never been to the 
site. Just asking.




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Re: Carry-on of big-glass

2002-04-12 Thread frank theriault

When I flew to Halifax and back (from Toronto) last week, I was amused when they
asked me at both security checks to "turn on my cameras".  I guess they wanted to
hear them make electronic beeping or whirring sounds.  I had to explain to them
that they were mechanical bodies (ok, I know that the MV isn't, but, whatever),
and obligingly took of the lens off one and body cap off the other to show them
the mirrors.  I asked if they wanted to look through the viewfinder to make sure
they could see through them, and they declined.  Then, they asked me to take off
the lens caps of one lens, which I did, so they could look through it - I also
flicked the aperture lever to show them that it worked.  They didn't check all the
lenses, just one.

No sniff check.  Didn't ask me to open my film canisters.  That was it.  No big
deal.

Oh yeah, they did ask me to turn on my portable CD player, to they could watch the
CD spin.

The whole thing took less than a minute.  Not too intrusive, but a bit
re-assuring, I suppose.

regards,
frank

Timothy Sherburne wrote:

> Thanks for the update, Ryan. As a quick aside, Last week I made a round trip
> between Portland, Oregon and Ontario, California (east of LA).
>
> Security in Portland did a swab test on my gear bag (containing several
> lenses, ZX-M body and accessories) after being x-ray'd. I purchased all my
> film in California, and I had several rolls left on the return trip.
> Security at Ontario Airport did honor my request for a hand check for the
> film, although the request went up the flag pole until it got to the
> supervising coordinated directing manager-in-charge, who said, "Look, all
> you need to do is open the bag, look at each roll and make sure there's film
> there". The rolls were out of their boxes and cans, each with a leader
> sticking out and in a clear zip-loc bag.
>
> t
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Paparatzzi?

2002-04-12 Thread Brendan

Just a few keepers from the film festival, Tonya Lee
Williams, aka Olivia from YNR.

http://webhome.idirect.com/~trini/photo/tonya4.jpg
http://webhome.idirect.com/~trini/photo/tonya3.jpg


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Re: Vivitar 2x macro focusing tele converter

2002-04-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Geoff,
It is said to be very good, and it usually sells for 2-1/2 to 3 times the 20 pounds 
you can get it for. It goes to 1:1. Mind you, you won't be able to focus at 
infinitity; the Vivitar not something you'll want to keep on your lens at all times. 
There's also a PKA version. See comments by Kent Giddings and others in the PDML 
archives. Google will turn up more comments in the Olympus discussion archives and 
photo.net.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] asked:I've seen one of these for sale (20 UK pounds). Would 
anyone know: 
1. How good this is (optically) ? 
2. How close will the 'macro focusing' take me (1:2 ?)  

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Re: PENTAX need to move soon (long rant)

2002-04-12 Thread Chris Brogden

On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> David explained to me why he is moving toward a switch to Canon EOS.
> "For the image stabilization?" I guessed.
>
> "No," he said, "for their superior metering capabilities."


That's a bit odd.  Canons have quite the reputation for underexposure, at
least when relatively recent models first came out.  IIRC, the Elan II and
the EOS 3 were both bad for this before Canon revised them.  I'd trust
Pentax or Nikon more in this respect, but I guess your guy has had
different experiences.

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Re: Winders

2002-04-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Taka,

The ME-II is quite a bit lighter than the Motor A. It offers great flexibility. And it 
feels so good to hold, I use three of them, all used without batteries. Two were 
bought broken, including one that I bought last night for $20 to use on my KX. It 
barely fits, but it sure makes a difference.

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Re[2]: PENTAX need to move soon (long rant)

2002-04-12 Thread Mishka

i do use mf 
just thought, bringing it up here is like saying "...ferrari is faster
anyway" when someone discusses merits of say, "mustang vs corvette" --
that is, not quite fair

> From: Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re[2]: PENTAX need to move soon (long rant)
> 
>  (snip...)
> 
> For me, that was the time when I finally seriously entertained MF for
> control and picture quality.  If you think 35mm film still has a big
> edge over digital, you ought to look at some MF images!
> 
> 
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ME Repair Manual?

2002-04-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I know I ought to bookmark these things the first time I see them, but...

Is the repair manual for the ME one of the ones that has been 
scanned and put online already?


I've got an ME that suffered a fall a while back (I've since 
switched brand of camera strap, as the style I was using 
managed to let go of two different cameras on different 
occasions).  Everything seems to work fine except for one 
annoying detail:  after I advance the film, I have to push
the lever back into place myself; it no longer returns on
its own.

Someone (Fred?) suggested that it was probably a spring 
having gotten knocked loose in the bottom, so this afternoon
I finally pulled the bottom plate off, and sure enough, there's
the return spring in plain sight.  The end that attaches to 
the chassis appears to be properly connected, which means it
must have come loose from the shaft (it doesn't look like it's
coiling when I cock the shutter, so I figure it is in fact a
knocked-loose spring problem instead of something else getting
bent and creating too much friction or something).

What I can't see is how to get at the attachment point without
making a bunch of other, tinier springs go sproing.  I'm at
the point now where I have to decide a) whether to press forward,
b) whether to close the thing back up and live with it as it is,
or c) hope that I can save up enough for a professional repair
before it absolutely drives me crazy.  (Note that this is my
number four K-mount body, so I shouldn't have to deal with it
all _that_ often ... but it does get its share of film run
through it anyhow.)

Has anyone else here done this repair on an ME or another body
in which that section of the mechanism is the same as an ME?
Pointers?  Clues?

Thanks.

-- Glenn, attempting to repair
   cameras as an excuse to
   procrastinate filling out
   my tax return.
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: Electronic shutters versus mechanical shutters

2002-04-12 Thread Collin Brendemuehl

Au contraire, mon ami!

With an electronic shutter, the COMPUTER can
adjust it for you.  Whether the Super Program
or the ZX-M, or any other.

BUT

Take out your Spot, KX, or MX.  (Try LX as well.)
Set the SS for 1 sec. and fire.  Easy to time.
Set the SS for 1/2 sec. and fire.  The difference
is clear.

NOW

Set the ss *in between* and fire.  You should be able to tell the difference.  Why?  
Because of
the Mechanical coupling.  There is a difference.

The shortcoming is that it's not as predictable
as the electronic units.  But it IS Stepless.

You want to keep the same aperture setting but get just a fraction more or less 
exposure?  Just turn the SS dial a little bit.  Don't worry about the detents -- 
they're just for convenience.  You're free to stop anywhere in between.

Try THAT with your electronic gizmos, ya helpless techno-wimps!

Collin
( And I haven't gotten into the political or faith threads at all this past 2 weeks.  
Ain't y'all proud o' me!  )


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Electronic shutters are (or can be) infinately variable.  If the meter calls 
for 1/361 sec. that is what you get.  Mechanical shutters are set increments 
and not usually adjustable. 



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Re: Electronic shutters versus mechanical shutters

2002-04-12 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Jerry in Houston>

Subject: Re: Electronic shutters versus mechanical shutters


> Electronic shutters are (or can be) infinately variable.  If
the meter calls
> for 1/361 sec. that is what you get.  Mechanical shutters are
set increments
> and not usually adjustable.

As far back as 1972, Nikon was able to produce a mechanical
shutter with infinitely variable speeds from sync to 1/2000
second for the F2.

William Robb
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Re: PENTAX need to move soon

2002-04-12 Thread Cotty

>but then, there is a semi in front of me that hits a bridge, rolls on its 
>side and causes a general
>mess sending traffic into chaos, I whip out my MZ-S and catch the driver 
>crawling out through the 
>broken wind shield. I take a few snaps of the general carnage and whilst 
>doing this another PJ shows

Kevin,

Is this a hypothetical situation, or did it happen? As a news cameraman, 
I am also a trained first-aider, and my first obligation would be to help 
in a rescue situation. This will possibly be at the detriment of my shots 
for the tv news, but I made the decision long ago as to what was more 
important to me. Having said that, most of the situations I encounter 
have not been at a 'critical' phase, and I have chanced across situations 
where there are already plenty of folk helping out, in which case I get 
my camera out and start shooting. In a stills capacity (hypothetically, 
as I do not shoot still professionally) I would see no reason to change 
my stance.

.02 pence

Cotty

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RE: Pentax 67 and CZJ

2002-04-12 Thread Jens Bladt

Thanks Xato
Any more details about the DVDtechnic??? Where/how to get them?

(I don't have the 645 yet, but I'm thinking of letting the P6'es
go (two bodies, TTL-Prisma and 80mm's only) to finance a 645 body).
Regards
Jens


-Opriniesdelig meddelelse-
Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]På vegne af W.Xato
Sendt: 12. april 2002 18:06
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: Re: Pentax 67 and CZJ


Hi I have both Pentacon 6 and Kiev 88 lens adapted to
my P645 with $25 adapters. They both work fine. The
one that says "DVDtechnic" is well machined and fits
perfectly.

Xato

<<
Subject: Re: Pentax 67 and CZJ
Hi
Thanks for all you answers.I have got confirmation for
some of them from Zoerk, who says that thelenses must
be rebuilt. That's rather expensive.
Zoerk writes: We must rebuild the lens.Price for each
lens EUR  500,--. You can use Pentacon Six lenses on
Mamiya
645,Pentax 645 and Contax 645 with adapter.
Regards
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RE: film questions

2002-04-12 Thread Mick Maguire

sorry I meant of course Casselberry 

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RE: film questions

2002-04-12 Thread Mick Maguire

Bill Casselbury wrote: "Kodak now makes a tungsten balance print film
again."

It's bloomin expensive tho!

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RE: Collecting cameras

2002-04-12 Thread Jens Bladt

Hi
I don't really collect cameras - I try to sell those that I don't use (for
economic reasons) - but I still have 10 SLR's (35mm, 6x6, 6x7) (6 Pentax)
and some 35mm and 6x9 rangefinders. I sertainly don't want cameras that
don't work. I once got a Kodak baby brownie in original box w. a flash for
2$ at a flee market! I had a complete Topcon outfit for some time, but I let
it go to help finance a trip to South Africa (No point in having many nice
cameras, if you can't afford to travel/use them).
Unfortunately I don't have a Spotmatic, but I guess a nice one will come my
way some day.
I think my nicest (beautiful manufacturing) cameras are the K1000 and my
latest, the 67.

I'd still like to have a nice Spotmatic, though!
Regards
Jens
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RE: PENTAX need to move soon (long rant)

2002-04-12 Thread Jens Bladt

I think ASAHI's philosophy goes something like this:
High end SLR diggies are for pro's - especially news photographers - due to
the high cost/low image quality. These people don't use Pentax, but Nikon or
Canon.
Low-end or "consumer diggies" are for ...consumers/non pros. Pentax makes
some nice ones. These are made for the same people, that use
basic/affordable 35mm SLR's, that Pentax makes so well.
Pentax also makes 35 SLR's for dedicated amateurs/non pros and to supply the
pros, who mainly use Medium Format Pentax'es (645 and 67), with nice, high
end "Limited" or "Millenium" 35mm cameras (LX2000,MZ-S, Limited Body??,
Limited Range finder??).
In short - a pro Pentax is a Medium Format Pentax. So, a pro Pentax diggie
is a MF diggie (maybe even a "Limited Diggie":

If Pentax makes a pro diggie, it has to be a digital back for/or a digital
version of 645 and 67. A pro Pentax diggie a Medium Format diggie - just
like a conventional pro Pentax is a MF Pentax. That makes sence. A digital
"35mm SLR" doesn't!
So, I gues we'll have to wait for a 35mm CCD (for 645), a 645 or 6x7 CCD. I
guess we'll have to wait a while...? Don't you?
Jens

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Emne: Re: PENTAX need to move soon (long rant)


All good things will come to those who are patient. This digital stuff is in
its infant. Wait until it grows up before making any decisions. Try Windows
XP on a 10 year old computer! That is where I feel that Digital is now. I
have told myself that I would wait (if I live that long) for something
around the 16 - 32 Mp range. Digital is for is for instant gratification and
those who deed it and not a replacement for good 35mm stuff. It will come
64Mp and higher will challenge medium format and larger formats, but art
will prevail. The child is still growing and just learning to talk. If you
are serious about your photography, spend some more time in the darkroom -
that is where the magic is ( at least for now).

Bob




> > Like you,  I'll jump ship to Canon if nothing happens soon- and it kills
me > to say this.
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Re: Whats your most used Camera?

2002-04-12 Thread Bob Walkden

Hi,

I've probably shot most film with my MX, but I've had it for over 20
years. When I started buying LXs they became my first choice body.
Nowadays my first choice is probably evenly shared between a Leica M3
or M4-2 and a Contax RX. I still take my MX out for a bit of exercise
from time to time.

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Friday, April 12, 2002, 6:51:05 AM, you wrote:

> Hi,

> Okay we just had what are your favourite 5 Pentax Bodies, now for a new
> question.

> What is your most used camera body, can be just of recent or over your whole
> time as a photographer. It doesnt have to be a Pentax, but i assume most of
> them will be.

> My most used camera of late is a Leica M6 and my most used off all time is
> probaly a Spotmatic with a Super Takumar 50/1.4

> Regards,
> Paul
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Re: Carry-on of big-glass

2002-04-12 Thread Timothy Sherburne

Thanks for the update, Ryan. As a quick aside, Last week I made a round trip
between Portland, Oregon and Ontario, California (east of LA).

Security in Portland did a swab test on my gear bag (containing several
lenses, ZX-M body and accessories) after being x-ray'd. I purchased all my
film in California, and I had several rolls left on the return trip.
Security at Ontario Airport did honor my request for a hand check for the
film, although the request went up the flag pole until it got to the
supervising coordinated directing manager-in-charge, who said, "Look, all
you need to do is open the bag, look at each roll and make sure there's film
there". The rolls were out of their boxes and cans, each with a leader
sticking out and in a clear zip-loc bag.

t

On 4/11/02 9:33 AM, Ryan K. Brooks wrote:

> As a follow up to this email, here was my results:
> 
> At ORD:  They pulled me aside, did the full "sniff" test (on me, my shoes
> and my gear) and looked thru each lens.   The security fellow was extremely
> nice and extremely careful with the equipment.   He did ask what I used such
> a big heavy lens for. :-)
> 
> At MIA (where they had just arrested someone with boxcutters from Egypt the
> week before):  They did the sniff test on me, my bag and my shoes but didn't
> open the bag.Security guy was disinterested, but not unpleasent.
> 
> Frankly,  I felt better at ORD- even though the inspection took an extra 5-6
> minutes.  Small price to pay.
> 
> (I fedex'ed my film, which I did before 9/11 as well)
> 
> Oh, and the lens is still green :-),
> 
> R
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 1:35 PM
> Subject: Re: Carry-on of big-glass
> 
> 
>>> [snip]  so I just have to bring along my mint green A*400/2.8 :-).
>>> [snip] I'm leaving from O'Hare- and meet all the carry on
>>> requirements, but a bit concerned that they won't like this big,
>>> heavy, club like item in my carry on.  I don't really trust
>>> checking it, even in it's case.  [snip]
>> 
>> No guarantees that anything that we could say will automatically get
>> you and your lens on a plane, Ryan - .  Besides, since you've got
>> one of the ~green~ big A* lenses, any security person who has seen
>> only ~white~ big A* lenses in print is gonna be suspicious - .
>> 
>> Seriously, I would try to carry it on, but be willing to have it
>> hand inspected as well as x-rayed if necessary.  Maybe you should
>> make sure that the the aperture is already set wide open, so that a
>> security person could easily look through the lens from one end to
>> the other with the two caps off (to see that it's nothing but air
>> and beautiful SMC glass from one end to the other).
>> 
>> That's about all I can think of, except maybe to smile a lot.  ;-)
>> 
>> Fred
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RE: Re: Slashdotted! Amy Hughes Lego Church

2002-04-12 Thread Paris, Leonard

/. is out (almost), 'blogs are now in.

Len
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Re: sunny f16 rule...

2002-04-12 Thread Pat White

Sunny f11 is usually closer to the mark.  When taking pictures of the Moon, though, 
f16 is good, as it's in full daylight up there (bright sun on sandy (Moondusty) beach).

Pat White
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RE: Collecting cameras

2002-04-12 Thread Joe Wilensky

I've considered myself a camera collector since I discovered a couple 
of old Argus C-3's in Binghamton, NY antique shops 15 years ago. I've 
bought and sold or traded many cameras since then, following my 
interests, what struck my fancy, and also what finds I "lucked" into.

I'm definitely a user/collector, as a camera that no longer works and 
isn't worth fixing (or, for that matter, cameras that take obselete 
film formats) isn't attractive to me. I love handling and playing 
with many of these fine examples of aesthetics, precision machinery 
and glass, but actually carrying them around, ~using~ them, is the 
ultimate reason for having them.

Six years ago, I first put up a Web page dedicated to my camera 
collecting "philosophy" at 
http://people.clarityconnect.com/webpages/wilensky/camera.htm and 
it's due for some updating, but still reflects my approach.

I found Pentax cameras to be perhaps the ultimate collectible, 
largely because of the backwards compatibility and nearly straight 
lines of descendancy (in the hand, the compact, beautiful ME Super 
paired with an SMC-M 50/1.7 lens truly feels like a grandchild of a 
meterless H2 with one of the small Auto-Takumar lenses, for instance).

But I also appreciate American cameras (the wonderfully Art Deco 
original Argus Model A, the curved ends of the Argus Markfinder, the 
Kodak Signet); my Leica IIIc/f feels, in operation, like nothing else 
I own; I've had several Kodak Retinas, currently holding onto a IIa; 
I have a Kodak Stereo 35 camera that takes modern slide film but 
essentially gives me a completely new format in three dimensions; and 
compact rangefinders from the '70s definitely deserve their own cult 
-- and have them!

Joe

RE:

>  > > > Subject: Re: Whats your most used Camera?
>>  > >
>>  > >
>>  > > I have only two cameras a LX and MX.
>>  > >
>>  > > The LX is by far my most used camera.
>>  > >
>>  > > Christian
>>  >
>>  > Only 2? I have about 50.
>>  >
>>
>>  50 ?!! Wow! :) Do you have even more lenses ?
>
>Yeah I have at least 60 SLR lenses if you count m42,
>K mounts, and 6X7. All my other cameras are fixed
>mount lenses except for a screwmount Canon rangefinder
>I picked up about 10 yrs ago.
>
>I used to have even more but I sold off about
>25 "ugly" cheap cameras about 5 yrs ago. I really enjoy
>buying and using many different cameras. Nearly all
>of my cameras are fully functional.
>JCO
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Re: Re: zoom len 28-70

2002-04-12 Thread Ryan Charron

Hello Andy,

I would also highly recommend the Tokina 28-70/2.6-2.8
ATX Pro II or the newer Tokina 28-80 2.8 AF ATX PRO
that I own. I am crazy about it. The only other good
choices you've got are the Pentax FA 28-70 f4 or if $
is no issue the Pentax FA 28-70 f2.8. But for the
money, I would say go with Tokina.
For me, f4 is too slow for any lens under 200 or
300mm,
zoom or prime.


Sincerely,
Ryan Charron


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> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:55:05 +0200
> From: Sylwester Pietrzyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: zoom len 28-70
> 
> on 12.04.02 0:51, Andy Vu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Dear list,
> > I am looking for a zoom len 28-70 for my pz1-p.
> Any
> > recommendation??
> > 
> Get Tokina 28-70/2.6-2.8 ATX Pro II. You will get
> LOT for the moeny: it has
> f=2.8 meaning clearer viewfinder and faster AF in
> the dark, extra f-stop
> will give you faster shutter speeds when needed, it
> has very good optical
> quality and thanks to its construction very fast AF
> (compared my Z1P and
> this Tokina to friend's EOS-3 and 28-70/2.8 L USM -
> hard to tell any
> difference in speed!). And it is very good built -
> you should be happy for
> years!
> 
> - -- 
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> Sylwester Pietrzyk
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WTB: Sunpack 544 flash

2002-04-12 Thread David Spaulding

I know this is a streach...but I can't seem to find one used. I thought I'd
give this a shot before I purchase a new one.

Thanks.

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Re: Re: Slashdotted! Amy Hughes Lego Church

2002-04-12 Thread Chris Murray

On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Patrick White wrote:

>   It is a community of outspoken, opinionated critics :-)  I used to think
> that they were just a bunch of close-minded Linux bigots, but recent threads
> an officemate has told me about dispute that (requiring me to remove the
> "Linux" part of my opinion of them :-)
>   While the comments are sort of a loss unless you're into that sort of
> thing, the articles are worthwhile checking daily just as an
> technology-awareness sort of thing -- sometimes they get slanted into
> science fiction, but they almost always provide a non-slashdot link where
> you can read the actual article.
> 
>   Amy's site may have got slashdotted, but I hope she is taking it as a
> compliment.  That kind of sway with users hasn't been used as a weapon that
> I'm aware of, and remberances of a dead pet via photography of Lego churches
> is pretty far off their typical subject matter.  If lots of /. readers are
> checking her site out, it is a significant compliment.

Slashdot used to be pretty good. Once they sold the site it started to
slide. I don't think its a fault of the authors, but the readership hit a
sort of critical mass, where most of them are quite immanture.

It's my homepage, and I quite enjoy the stuff they post about lego, it
does happen fairly often.

Amy did post on that /. thread. It did not appear that she took any
offence.

- Chris

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Re: Collecting cameras

2002-04-12 Thread James Adams

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From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 7:51 AM
Subject: Collecting cameras

My most used camera next to my trusty SPF, had to be my old Kodak 128(!), it
was my first camera, bought it about 1960/61. I used it most days until
about 1971. Then I bought my first SLR, a Minolta SRT-101, which lasted only
8 months (R.I.P.), after a terminal swim in the Indian Ocean. I bought my
SPF in 1973, and still use it

I have 3 Spotmatic F's, 1 Spotmatic 500, 1 Spotmatic SP, 2 ME's, 1 MES
and a Recoh KR-10 with motor-drive and Nikon Photomic FTn.

I find I'm using an SPF, SP, SP500, and KR-10 equally, and the ME's and MES
almost daily with semi-permanent Vivitar Zoom or Telephoto lenses.

I'm awaiting a couple of Russian Range-finder cameras I bought through Ebay,
a Zorki-4 and a FED 2. I'm intending use them for B&W Portrait work, and to
buy a Jupiter or Helios 85mm/f2, 85mm/f1.5, and possibly a 100mm and 135mm
lenses. I also intend to buy a new Kiev 88 MF camera and lenses by the end
of the year.
James

(User or Collector, which comes first, the chicken or the egg?)
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RE: Whats your most used Camera?

2002-04-12 Thread Amita Guha

These days I'm still using my K1000 for just about everything,
although I want to start taking out my KM and my Yashicamat now that
the weather is getting warmer.
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Re: PENTAX need to move soon (long rant)

2002-04-12 Thread Norman Baugher

You wouldn't think that it was that simple if you had seen the thread on
this subject a while back. 
Norm

Mishka wrote:

> someone for whom photography is a profession. naturally.
>
> this reminds me, when i was back in school, at a seminar, to a question
> "and just what exactly are "interesing" problems in theor. physics?",
> someone remarked "whatever interests theor. physicists"
>
> > What would you consider a pro to be?
> > Norm
> > (it is Friday...)
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Re: PENTAX need to move soon (long rant)

2002-04-12 Thread Mishka

someone for whom photography is a profession. naturally.

this reminds me, when i was back in school, at a seminar, to a question
"and just what exactly are "interesing" problems in theor. physics?",
someone remarked "whatever interests theor. physicists" 

> What would you consider a pro to be?
> Norm
> (it is Friday...)
> 
> Mishka wrote:
> 
>  if i were a pro, 
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Vivitar 2x macro focusing tele converter

2002-04-12 Thread JGeoffreyStevens

I've seen one of these for sale (20 UK pounds).

Would anyone know:
1. How good this is (optically) ?
2. How close will the 'macro focusing' take me (1:2 ?) 

TIA,
Geoff
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Re: Whats your most used Camera?

2002-04-12 Thread David Spaulding

My most used would be the ZX-5n...though it only just nudges out the MX. I
have been putting my ZX-5 through its paces, but I still like to use the 5n.

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Re: ok crazy camera people...a ?

2002-04-12 Thread David Spaulding

Julia,

Thanks for the info. I'm looking at the top model, or the middle. I've read
a lot about the lights...its nice to know someone actually has one they have
used.

Please let me know how you fare with it : )

Dave
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Re: Collecting cameras

2002-04-12 Thread Jim Apilado

I started my collecting in late Sixties with the Leica IIIf.  I've got a few
Leicas, my favorite being the IIIg.  I also have a Hassy 1600, the original
Hasselblad that still functions.  I still own a Pentax H3 that I received
for a college graduation gift.  I really love my ES and ESII cameras.
I probably will unload most of my Leica stuff in the fall.
Jim A.

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Re: Re[2]: PENTAX need to move soon (long rant)

2002-04-12 Thread GLewis4457

I guess I have a problem with those who try to use digital to replace film, 
rather than recognize that it is just another arrow in the quiver, to be used 
where appropriate and it fills the need.  When I want family pics of the 
grandkids the digital is the way to go, easy, quick, and readily shareable.  
I also use it to preview potential shots to be taken with film.  For other 
purposes out comes the 35mm and MF.  There is no tool good for every purpose, 
and a camera is just a tool and not an end in itself.  Soapbox vacated.

Jerry in Houston
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Re: Used flashes- good or bad?

2002-04-12 Thread Bill D. Casselberry

Bob Rapp wrote:
 
> From: "Christian Skofteland"
> >does the Super A have TTL capabilities at all?)
 
> Yes, but not the Super Program.
 
UM - sorry Bobyes the SuperProgram has TTL
... same as a Super A 
- you may be thinking of the ProgramPlus, which doesn't TTL flash


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Re: Winders

2002-04-12 Thread Camdir

In a message dated 12/04/02 17:23:46 GMT Daylight Time, Bob writes:

<< For your Super A/Super Program, 
 Find a Motor Drive A for 1.5X the price of the MEII winder.
 You will find the extra speed (3.5 frames/second) more fun.
 The only drawback is that it is heavier. >>

But it's chunky. And has a swet vertical release. Oh yes.

Kind regards

Peter
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Re: Most Used Body Survey

2002-04-12 Thread Bill D. Casselberry

 ERNR wrote:

> where, although my presence is known and approved, I don't want 
> to disturb. I've never found the ZX-5n to draw attention to itself.

HJust last nite I was at the preview showing of a local
production of "J & the Amaz. Techni D-Coat" on a mission to get
some shots for the *director* of the show. I had the 6x7, 150mm
and an AF 280T set off to the side on an old bent aluminum flash
handle from days gone by. Angled back at ~45deg it rests on my
shoulder greatly adding to stability of the rig  ;^)

Well - got off one shot early on and was swooped down upon by the 
wuss producer, much to the later dismay of aforementioned director!

They did one silly set-up of the whole cast spread across the
stage afterwards for some newspaper fool w/ a WalMart Digital
(no offense Willy ;^) and I did manage to get some material.

at least I only had ten frames to use instead of 36!!

... got the resquisite ooohs & wows from many folks mingling.
even removed the prism and allowed a couple lithe & limber 
lasses look inside  !8^)  (Portra 160VC off to the souper today)

P6x7 (no, I'm not from the newspaper) Bill
  
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Re[2]: PENTAX need to move soon (long rant)

2002-04-12 Thread Bruce Dayton

Mishka,

Interesting perspective.  Earlier, I was also enamored by digital.  I
ended up with a Nikon Coolpix 990 and have taken 3000 pictures or so.
The quality is ok, but no better than you said.  For me, picture
quality and control really came forward as things that are important
to me.  The instant part was usually to overcome the weaknesses of the
digital P&S.

My wife started to use the digital as I started to slack off and now,
whenever she really needs to get a shot, she takes her ZX-10.  The
flash range is too short (no easy to clip on flash on the coolpix),
the focus is too slow, the viewfinder too small, the ISO range too
small, and on and on and on...you get the picture.  To get good shots,
she has gone back to film.

For me, that was the time when I finally seriously entertained MF for
control and picture quality.  If you think 35mm film still has a big
edge over digital, you ought to look at some MF images!


Bruce Dayton



Friday, April 12, 2002, 6:05:47 AM, you wrote:

M> until recently, i too, have been obsessed with (coming) digital stuff.
M> i am not anymore. 
M> i am an amateur and "fun", "end result quality" and "cost" are the only
M> things i care about. 

M> as far as final quality goes, no matter what anyone says, digital is
M> still behind the film. it may be reasonably close to 400+ speed negs,
M> but as far as E6 goes, Velvia and Provia 100F are still difficult to
M> beat.

M> fun -- for reasonably priced digicams it's as much as in p&s. which is
M> quite a bit, but a far cry from what one can do with a slr and a bunch
M> of primes.

M> cost -- c'mon! slide film goes for as little as $3/roll,
M> development/mounting adds another $6. that's $9 for 36 pictures.
M> negatives would cost half of that. to justify throwing traditional
M> stuff away and sink money into digital, you need to shoot an equivalent
M> of 300-400+ rolls, to break even. again, i am an amateur and this would
M> take *years* for me. by that time the digital setup would become
M> antique. and there's no such thing as "collectible" electronics.
M> electronics, unlike traditional cameras, become junk as time passes.
M> just look at old TVs.

M> and, looking at the cost, here goes fun again: with traditional one can
M> take a $100-$200 slr + $50 lens + a few rolls and know that whatever
M> stupid things he might do, his losses are limited to $200-300. with
M> digital, at least speaking for myself, knowing that i have kilobucks
M> hanging around my neck would have seriously interfere with whatever i
M> were doing.

M> that leaves instant results, a much praised feature of digital. but
M> it's not! one needs a laptop at least, to see the pictures. unless you
M> lug it along with the camera, you still have to wait until you get
M> home. from film, even with slides, it often a matter of hours to get it
M> developed. with prints it's a matter of hours (often 30 minutes,
M> together with prints) in *almost any part of the world*.

M> if i were a pro, i probably would have a completely different set of
M> objectives. but i am not. and when (i am not saying "if" -- it's really
M> "when") digital get to the level of quality, convenience and price of
M> 35mm stuff -- i will jump. but now i simply don't care. complaining why
M> pentax (or whoever else) have not come up with 2MP SLR which would cost
M> $$$ and suck compared to LX? nah...

>>  The majority of shots I take are E6 and I end up scanning them anyway- I
>> do appreciate the quality of film, but for a life-long amateur, digital will
>> provide me with more immediate feedback and lower cost/frame to improve my
>> photography skills.
>> 
>> Like you,  I'll jump ship to Canon if nothing happens soon- and it kills me
>> to say this.   My Pentax ownership will be relegated to 67 and my original
>> SP.
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Re: Electronic shutters versus mechanical shutters

2002-04-12 Thread GLewis4457

Electronic shutters are (or can be) infinately variable.  If the meter calls 
for 1/361 sec. that is what you get.  Mechanical shutters are set increments 
and not usually adjustable.

Jerry in Houston

In a message dated 4/12/2002 11:23:35 AM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


>The mechanical components to the shutter can get out of adjustment.  Even
> though the timing functions are based on a crystal oscillator, it can drift
> over time, so the electronic timings can change slightly.  All in all, I'd
> rely on the electronic shutter being more accurate for longer than a
> mechanical one.
> However, strange problems can strike electronic cameras that couldn't
> happen to mechanical ones.  For example, my Ricoh body had a problem where
> the shutter speeds were one position off on the dial.  Turned out to be an
> oscillator problem.
> 
> later,
> patbob ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Re: Used flashes- good or bad?

2002-04-12 Thread Christian Skofteland

Actually Len "corrected" me first.  Two corrections=reprimanded.  I'm a 
loser and I'll never be able to make another photograph again   
;-)

Christian
Who should keep his fingers off the keys when not discussing MX's or LX's

On Friday 12 April 2002 12:17, Fred wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, I've since been corrected and reprimanded for not verifying
> > information :-(
>
> Christian, "corrected", yes, but "reprimanded", no.  We all make
> mistakes (as ~I~ certainly prove over and over...), but we may not
> know we are wrong until someone corrects us.  However, it was never
> my intent to ~reprimand~ you - I was merely trying to help.  ;-)
>
> Fred
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Re: Used flashes- good or bad?

2002-04-12 Thread Fred

>> > I knew the ME Super, ME-F and Super Program had TTL but was
>> unsure > of the Super A.
>>
>> The ME Super and the ME-F do ~not~ have TTL flash.  The Super A (or
>> the Super Program) ~does~.

> Thanks, I've since been corrected and reprimanded for not verifying
> information :-(

Christian, "corrected", yes, but "reprimanded", no.  We all make
mistakes (as ~I~ certainly prove over and over...), but we may not
know we are wrong until someone corrects us.  However, it was never
my intent to ~reprimand~ you - I was merely trying to help.  ;-)

Fred
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Re: Electronic shutters versus mechanical shutters

2002-04-12 Thread Patrick White

"Albano_Garcia" writes:
>It's well known by everybody that a mechanical shutter can become inacurate
>with use and time, needing adjustment.
>My question is what about electronic ones? As long as the circuit is alive,
>the speeds will be equal no matter how many times they are fired or they
>can become inacurate? Is possible for a circuit to become "unadjusted", or
>as long as it lives it is always equal?

The mechanical components to the shutter can get out of adjustment.  Even
though the timing functions are based on a crystal oscillator, it can drift
over time, so the electronic timings can change slightly.  All in all, I'd
rely on the electronic shutter being more accurate for longer than a
mechanical one.
However, strange problems can strike electronic cameras that couldn't
happen to mechanical ones.  For example, my Ricoh body had a problem where
the shutter speeds were one position off on the dial.  Turned out to be an
oscillator problem.

later,
patbob ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Re: Uhhhhh...crack smoker?

2002-04-12 Thread Pdgsurvey

Folks:  FYI

Wrote a note to this gentlemen, and tried to be friendly, regarding questions 
on this issue and a brief, to the best of my knowledge, note about the caps, 
K mounts and availability.

He did reply, friendly, and indicated that he had received two other messages 
on the same topic.  He indicates, and I haven't checked yet, that he has 
changed his auction notice to reflect the new information.

Seems to be a nice guy, just more familiar with other brands and was making 
the same assumption with Pentax.  WE may have a "convert" here as a result.

Paul G.
Milwaukee
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Re: AF 360 FGZ - opinions?

2002-04-12 Thread Bruce Dayton

Sylwester,

The 360FGZ advantages show themselves on the MZ-S or in control
situations.  It can do P-TTL, TTL, Automatic (built in sensor,
multiple f-stop ranges),Manual with power output settings.  It can
also participate in multi-flash (wireless and wired) TTL setups with
each flash set to different power level - all TTL.  No other flash
that Pentax makes comes close to doing these kinds of things.  The
FTZ's don't have multi-power manual settings or any automatic modes.
The 500FTZ does have two advantages - more GN power and full tilt,
swivel.  So if all you are doing is clipping the flash onto the PZ-1p,
there probably isn't much advantage or maybe even a disadvantage (less
power, no swivel).  But, if you take the flash off camera and/or use
multiple flashes and/or use an MZ-S or the new ZX-L? then there are
lots of advantages.

HTH


Bruce Dayton

P.S. Any questions let me know.  I have 3 of them and use them in
single and multi-flash setups on both the MZ-S and the P67II.



Friday, April 12, 2002, 4:19:59 AM, you wrote:

SP> Hello,
SP> can users of this small beauty write me something about using it? How does
SP> it compare to older flashes (light distribution)? Dooes anybody use it with
SP> Z1P? TIA!
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Re: Collecting cameras

2002-04-12 Thread frank theriault

My "users":

MX, MV, 3 Spotmatics, Yashica Mat, Yashica Electro 35, Minolta HiMatic F

My "collectors":

Yashica A, Minolta 16II, Voigtlander Vito Automatic I, Kodak Brownie
Starflash

My collectors aren't collectors because they're worth anything.  Quite the
contrary.  The A was my father's, and needs a shutter repair, which will
probably never get done;  I'm keeping it for nostalgia's sake.  The Minolta
16 was a $10 eBay purchase, but the film cassettes are next to impossible to
get, or too expensive when you find them - so I just think it's a cool little
trinket.  The Voigtlander would probably work if I put film in it, but the
light meter is pooched, so again, it's just a cool looking piece.  The
Brownie was my first camera, so again, nostalgia.

Collectively, they're worth about zip, but they are on a shelf, and make good
conversation pieces.

regards,
frank

"J. C. O'Connell" wrote:

> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christian Skofteland
> > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:44 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Whats your most used Camera?
> >
> >
> > I have only two cameras a LX and MX.
> >
> > The LX is by far my most used camera.
> >
> > Christian
>
> Only 2? I have about 50.
>
> BTW, who many of you pentax users out there collect cameras
> as well as use them? I've been buying all sorts of cameras
> over the last twenty years...
> JCO
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Re: Used flashes- good or bad?

2002-04-12 Thread Christian Skofteland

Thanks.  I knew the ME Super, ME-F and Super Program had TTL but was unsure 
of the Super A.

Christian

On Friday 12 April 2002 11:17, Paris, Leonard wrote:
> The Super Program DOES have TTL flash capabilities, as does the Super A.
>
> Len
> ---
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bob Rapp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:05 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Used flashes- good or bad?
>
>
> From: "Christian Skofteland"
>
> >does the Super A have TTL
> > capabilities at all?)
>
> Yes, but not the Super Program.
>
> Bob
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Re: Used flashes- good or bad?

2002-04-12 Thread Christian Skofteland

For 90 bucks it better be pristine!  

The only true evaluation would be to put it on the camera and fire off a roll 
of test slides in TTL mode at different distances/apertures and see what the 
results are. 

Christian

On Friday 12 April 2002 11:19, TM wrote:
> Christian-
> Thanks. If I buy used, what would I look for, other than corrosion in
> the
> battery compartment, to evaluate the flash?
>
> The Super A does have TTL flash capability.
>
>
> Taka
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RE: Used flashes- good or bad?

2002-04-12 Thread TM

The Super A has TTL capability but not the Super Program?!?

I thought the two were identical, except for color.

Taka

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From: "Christian Skofteland" 
>does the Super A have TTL
> capabilities at all?)
> 

Yes, but not the Super Program.

Bob
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Re: WTB: Light Table

2002-04-12 Thread frank theriault

Thanks, Brendan,

I'll give that a shot.

-frank

Brendan wrote:

> Try this, glass coffee table with white sheet of
> paper, florescent lamp ( daylight corrected ) under
> it. Works untill you get a rea llight table.
>
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RE: Used flashes- good or bad?

2002-04-12 Thread TM

Okay, so what's a fair price for an AF-280T?

I definitely don't want to overbid on ebay. :-)

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Re: Collecting cameras

2002-04-12 Thread Christian Skofteland

Actually, 3.  I forgot the Spotmatic II which was bought more for Pentax 
history than anything else.

I also have an Auto110 and an IQ Zoom 120 but didn't include them.

Christian

On Friday 12 April 2002 10:51, JCO wrote:
>
> Only 2? I have about 50.
>
> BTW, who many of you pentax users out there collect cameras
> as well as use them? I've been buying all sorts of cameras
> over the last twenty years...
> JCO
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RE: Used flashes- good or bad?

2002-04-12 Thread TM

Christian-
Thanks. If I buy used, what would I look for, other than corrosion in
the
battery compartment, to evaluate the flash?

The Super A does have TTL flash capability.


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RE: Used flashes- good or bad?

2002-04-12 Thread Paris, Leonard

The Super Program DOES have TTL flash capabilities, as does the Super A.

Len
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From: "Christian Skofteland" 
>does the Super A have TTL 
> capabilities at all?)
> 

Yes, but not the Super Program.

Bob
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Re: PENTAX need to move soon

2002-04-12 Thread Kevin Waterson

On Fri, 12 Apr 2002 10:36:04 -0400
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Like you,  I'll jump ship to Canon if nothing happens soon- and it kills me > to 
>say this.

Most PJ stuff I do is not time critical, sure there are deadlines, but no front page 
stuff. Its 
more like some city news paper will call me and say, we need a shot of that 2 headed 
cow born
out on Smiths farm to fill page 26. Plenty of time to shoot, devel, scan with the neg 
scanner
and email off the results.

but then, there is a semi in front of me that hits a bridge, rolls on its side and 
causes a general
mess sending traffic into chaos, I whip out my MZ-S and catch the driver crawling out 
through the 
broken wind shield. I take a few snaps of the general carnage and whilst doing this 
another PJ shows
up with a Nikon Digital. He snaps of 100 shots in 3 minutes and plugs it into his 
laptop and with cell
phone attached and the images are at the office almost immediatly. My pics are not yet 
at the lab...

For any PJ work now, especially freelance, you need a digital. I really don't want to 
go out and buy
a second kit, Nikon, and have to buy all new glass for it. I have already invested 
heavily in glass and
maintained my customer loyalty to PENTAX. I guess I would just like to see that my 
loyalty has not
been misplaced.

I truly believe in the PENTAX product and have been using it over 20 years and have 
marvelled at the
progress made and watched other manufacturers fall in line behind. But something has 
changed, suddenly
it seems that the leaders in the new technologies are Canon and Nikon. 

Kevin
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Re: Winders

2002-04-12 Thread Bob Rapp

> Sorry for the incessant questions- one more and I'll be
> good to go for a while. :-)
>
> Which winder/motor drive would you get- Winder MEII or
> the Motor Drive A, for a Super A?

If you can find one, the Motor A. The  Me winders are plentiful, but not in
real good working order. Jessops In England supplies a winder that include
interval operation. I know of them, but have no experience
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