Re: Digital Queston On Another Camera Brand

2002-05-04 Thread John Glover

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Subject: OT: Digital Queston On Another Camera Brand


> Hi All
>
> The Digital 2000 uses a removable SmartMedia card, and came with a 2Mb
card
> (as do the others).  Since the manual was missing, I called Digital Dream
> and asked what size cards can it take.  They informed me that it only
takes
> 2Mb cards.
>

> Does anyone know why the camera is limited to 2MB cards, and why it should
> not be able to save to bigger ones?


My understanding is this is programmed into the firmware which runs the
camera's on-board processors.  For example, my Fuji 6900 can only see SM
cards up to 128Mb now, which is the max size.  If and when the 256Mb cards
get released, I'll not be able to use them as my camera is limited by its
on-board board software.  Some cameras do have upgradeable firmware and can
get around this limitation.  With this camera, as it sounds quite entry
level to only suppliy a 2Mb card, there is probalby no upgrade or way around
this limit, if it truly exists.  Have you tried borrowing say an 8 or 16Mb
card and popping in the camera to see if it works?

John
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Re: Stores with Pentax equipment

2002-05-04 Thread GBaumg3568

Jim,

Arlington Camera in Arlington, Texas (Dallas/Fort Worth area) used to have a 
fairly extensive selection of Pentax stuff.  It has been a few years since I 
was there but at that time they were in a strip mall on Randol Mill Road at 
Cooper Street.  The phone number two years ago was 817-261-8131.

Good hunting.

George Baumgardner
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Re: Pentax DSLR - size matters (was: Re: Will Pentax join Olympus?)

2002-05-04 Thread Rob Studdert

On 4 May 2002 at 21:44, Cotty wrote:

> >Anyway, Pentax first digital slr will almost certainly be a K-mount slr.
> 
> I hope and agree.
> 
> One thing that bothers me about introducing a new form factor for DSLRs, 
> especially those with interchangeble lens systems, I fear that because 
> the lenses will likely be physically smaller, so will the cameras and 
> peripherals.
> 
> I don't want smaller!
> 
> Am I alone on this?

Hi Cotty,

You're not alone at all but not necessarily for the same reasons either. What I 
mainly have a problem with is lack of good ergonomics. Due to the nature of the 
medium digital cameras require a more complex user interface than traditional 
film cameras which unfortunately on a physically small camera body usually 
translates to small buttons and multi-layered menus. Good for techno geeks, bad 
for photographers.

I'd much rather a camera be a little larger than it may be possible to produce 
if only to provide a more ergonomic interface. As you know I have relatively 
small hands however I don't have a problem with the size or heft of a P645, 
P67, Mamiya 7II or Oly E-10. Even though all these cameras are all sizable they 
all have a pretty well executed and comfortable user interfaces.

Neither do I fully accept the notion that the new digital interchangeable lens 
SLR concept previously under discussion will provide a truly compelling 
advantage due to it's slightly smaller relative size over 35mm compatible 
digital SLRs. Lets face it many people lug about a Nikon F5 body even though it 
has limited advantage over its peers in all but very specific photographic 
situations.

If you want a real easy camera to carry get a Canon Elph or the new Canon 
Powershot S40 digital, these are truly small and realistically pocketable 
(however you might need to sharpen your fingers to operate the controls :-)

An interchangeable lens SLR in any form factor with more than one lens is still 
going to have to be relegated to a dedicated carry bag of some sort. Lastly if 
a Pentax K mount digital is likely to emerge before any new concept 
interchangeable lens digital AF SLR with multi-manufacturer backing and if I 
buy a K mount digital SLR then hell would have to freeze over before I dump all 
my K mount gear for the new DSLR holy grail.

It's not how big it is, it's the way that you use it. :-)

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
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FS: AF280T plus accessories

2002-05-04 Thread Paul Ewins

For Sale,
AF280T with wide and Tele adapters (AFW1, AFT1), case and boxes.
It's in near new condition with only a couple of very small blemishes in the
plastic.

US$100 + postage at cost

Contact me off list [EMAIL PROTECTED] if interested.

Paul Ewins
Melbourne, Australia
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FS. K-mount Zoom Lenses

2002-05-04 Thread Paul Ewins

Pentax SMC K 45-125mm f4
Mint in box, with all packaging, case, caps, hood,  etc. - $130 

Pentax-A 70-200 1:4   
Usual loose zoom, otherwise in EX condition, includes caps - $45

Sigma Zoom- kIV 70 ~ 210 1:4~5.6   1.5m min focus distance
KA mount  EX conditon, with caps and lens hood  - $50

Kiron 28-85mm f/2.8 - 3.8 macro 1:4  - K mount
Includes soft case, Hoya skylight filter (67mm), rubber hood and caps,
EX glass, VGC body (slight wear), a very solidly constructed lens  - $60

Postage at cost

Contact me off list, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

thanks,

Paul Ewins
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FONG: Can anyone in Europe help this person?

2002-05-04 Thread Collin Brendemuehl

Subject: WTB: pentax K wide angle lens
Date: 4 May 2002 09:59:12 -0700
From: "Ioan Alexandre Romoscanu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: rec.photo.marketplace.35mm
I am looking for a wide angle Pentax K-mount lens,
anything from 14 to 28 mm.

Location: switzerland.

Thx/AIR
**

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KC8TKA
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OT: Items for sale - including an LX

2002-05-04 Thread b_rubenstein

Before putting these items up for auction, I am 
offereing them here:

LX Body $350
This LX is in good cosmetic condition and excellent 
mechanical condition. It’s not a beauty queen, but it 
doesn’t look like it’s been used for vacation pictures 
in Tora-Bora either. There are some minor dings in the 
prism and on the bottom plate. The camera was serviced 
by Pentax several years ago and has not been used very 
much since then. There are no symptoms of sticky mirror, 
the mirror box is in perfect alignment and the meter and 
shutter speeds are accurate. All this camera needs to go 
is film and a lens.
Included is the original strap, strap connecting lugs, 
grip B and a body cap. The serial number starts with 
528XXX, so the meter turns on by pressing the prism 
release button and the ISO goes to 3200.
Note: This is not that body that I had repair problems 
with Pentax Colorado.
Shipping $8
Pictures:
http://home.att.net/~b_rubenstein/lx-front.jpg
http://home.att.net/~b_rubenstein/lx-back.jpg
http://home.att.net/~b_rubenstein/lx-top.jpg
http://home.att.net/~b_rubenstein/lx-bottom.jpg

Genuine Pentax K to Screwmount Adapter $20
The adapter is mint, in its original package with 
instructions.
Shipping $1.50
http://home.att.net/~b_rubenstein/k-mount-ad.jpg

Pentax 1.7x AF Adapter $100
This is the adapter that enables AF with MF lenses, and 
acts as a 1.7x tele-extender. The condition is somewhere 
between Excellent+ and Mint- (it’s very good). It comes 
with the original caps.
Shipping $4
http://home.att.net/~b_rubenstein/af-adap.jpg

Tokina KA 24mm f2.8 lens $75
This is a KA mount lens, so it supports Program and 
Shutter AE modes. The glass is perfect, focus smooth 
(but backwards), aperture blades clean and snappy (all 5 
of them). Cosmetics are between Excellent+ and Mint-
Shipping $4
http://home.att.net/~b_rubenstein/tok-24.jpg


Payment/shipping:
I accept Pay Pal (preferred), Money Orders and Cashier’s 
checks. Personal Checks, will be accepted, but will have 
to clear first. I ship via USPS with insurance. US sales 
are less complicated and preferred but I will also deal 
with Canadian buyers.
Listed shipping costs are for US sales only.
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Re: Using a Macro Lens

2002-05-04 Thread Mark Cassino

Magnification is the key driver in DOF, and that does not change with format.

So if you take a 1/4th lifesized shot with a 6x6, you have the same DOF as 
if you take a 1/4th lifesized shot in 35mm.  But of course, at that 
magnification your pipe fills the frame at 35mm but leaves a lot of empty 
space around the subject on the 6x6.  So you fill the frame at 6x6 and in 
doing so you are shooting at more like 3/4th lifesized.  The magnification 
goes up and the DOF decreases.

Similarly, if you shoot a frame filling shot of the pipe on a small format 
digital camera with an 8.1 x 6.6mm sensor it's at about 1/10th lifesized. 
So the magnification is that much less and the DOF that much more, which is 
why small format digitals seem to have so much more DOF.

So the math just works the same in any case - just compare the size of the 
image on the neg as a percentage of the size of the real object and you are 
set.

- MCC

PS: I think this is why we'll see larger sensors on digitals as digital 
technology matures. While getting great DOF is fine for some work (I love 
it for insects) it is a real detriment for other work where selective 
focusing is a key compositional element. So even if you can pack a zillion 
pixels in a tiny CCD, you can't get shallow DOF without the increase in 
magnification that only comes from recording a larger image.  If Kodak 
invented a super sharp film that could be blown up far more than current 
film, I doubt that people would rush back to 110 cameras. 35mm, medium 
format, and large format offer sets of compromises built around the basic 
levels of magnification of the final image - compromises in DOF, focal 
length, and f stops - that make a lot of sense for different types of 
work.  So ultimately I think we'll see digital sensors that are about the 
same size as film standards. Which is why a digital SLR's make a lot of sense.

At 10:57 AM 5/4/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi Mark ...
>
>How does all this change when using a different format?  If I were using
>a 6x6 instead of a 35mm frame, would the results be any different?  I
>don't see a way of including the format size in these calculations.
>
>Mark Cassino wrote:
>
> > Hi Shel -
> >
> > I'm referring to the ratio of the pipe's physical size to the size of it's
> > image on the film.
> >
> > So -- put it all in metric first:
> >
> > Your pipe is roughly 90mm long. You plan to use 80% of the 35mm frame, so
> > the image will be 28mm long. The magnification ratio is 0.3 - so you are
> > shooting at roughly one third lifesized (my 1/4th life sized was a 
> little off.)
> >
> > You want 1/2 inch DOF - so that is ~13mm of DOF.
> >
> > You now have all the info you need to solve the problem. The basic 
> formula is:
> >
> > DOF = ((2 * f_stop*circle_of_confusion_size) *(magnification + 1)) /
> > magnification squared.
> >
> > I use 0.033 mm as the circle of confusion size. What this means is that
> > I'll consider a point on the film that is 0.033 mm in diameter to be
> > "sharp" - i.e. even though it is out of focus, it's so slightly out of
> > focus it looks sharp.
> >
> > We know all the values except f stop, so:
> >
> > 13mm = ((2* f stop * 0.033) * (0.3 +1)) / 0.3 squared.
> >
> > You _could_ just solve that equation for the f-stop, but since the choices
> > are limited I just plug in a guess and go from there.
> >
> > So - guessing f16 you have:
> >
> > ((2*16*0.033)*(0.3+1) / 0.09 = 15.25 mm DOF
> >
> > Guessing f 11:
> >
> > ((2*11*0.033)*(03+1) / 0.09 = 10.5 mm DOF
> >
> > At the half stop (f13) you get 12.4
>
>--
>Shel Belinkoff
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Re: Rexatar 300/4?

2002-05-04 Thread Bill Owens

Also, this one appears in better cosmetic condition than mine.  The hood on
mine is VERY loose and will not stay extended on its own.  It's also
somewhat newer than mine, FWIW.  My serial # is 754491.

Bill  KG4LOV
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From: "Paul F. Stregevsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 7:59 PM
Subject: RE: Rexatar 300/4?


> The seller tells me the following:
> Closest focusing is 4 meters.
> The filter size is 77.
> It is Multicoated. It does say MC.
>
> I wrote:
>
> Anyone know about this lens?
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1350615901
>
> Who made it?
> Is it sold by another name?
>
> Paul Franklin Stregevsky
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Re: Rexatar 300/4?

2002-05-04 Thread Bill Owens

Hey Paul, I've got one!

Mine came with a pawnshop Spotmatic.  I've tried to find out who
manufactured with no definitive answer.  It's a decent lens, but nothing
outstanding.

Bill  KG4LOV
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From: "Paul F. Stregevsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 7:59 PM
Subject: RE: Rexatar 300/4?


> The seller tells me the following:
> Closest focusing is 4 meters.
> The filter size is 77.
> It is Multicoated. It does say MC.
>
> I wrote:
>
> Anyone know about this lens?
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1350615901
>
> Who made it?
> Is it sold by another name?
>
> Paul Franklin Stregevsky
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Re: Rexatar 300/4?

2002-05-04 Thread Steve Larson

Bill Owens has one of those, he emailed me some pics taken with it
and it seems like a pretty good optic.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
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From: "Paul F. Stregevsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 4:59 PM
Subject: RE: Rexatar 300/4?


> The seller tells me the following:
> Closest focusing is 4 meters.
> The filter size is 77.
> It is Multicoated. It does say MC.
> 
> I wrote:
> 
> Anyone know about this lens?
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1350615901
> 
> Who made it?
> Is it sold by another name?
> 
> Paul Franklin Stregevsky
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Re: Possible solution to problem w/ Super Program- need advice

2002-05-04 Thread Bill D. Casselberry

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
> Taka, 
> Take the camera to a repair person and get an estimate on the spot.  Have
> this amount as a negotiating point.  You are already out the $10 or so
> shipping involved.  $120 would be just fine for a CLA'ed Super Program.  Much
> more is not such a good deal.  Repairing the A50/2 is probably not
> worthwhile.
 
ah - the "joys of Ebay" strike again


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RE: Possible solution to problem w/ Super Program- need advice

2002-05-04 Thread TM

Bob-

I already have an estimate, from Essex Camera, from their website.
Granted, it's not _exact_ based on standard CLA, but that's where I
plan on having it serviced anyway.

I'm kind of at the seller's mercy, because worst case, all I can do is
file a dispute w/ PayPal and Ebay and return the camera.

I'm not planning on repairing the lens.

Camera is from SoCal.

If I can get half of the CLA cost, that would make it a $180 Super
Program,
which is still less than what I can get one for from KEH or elsewhere
and
other than the mirror foam, it really does look to be in nice condition.
Not
as nice as my Super A, which was bought new and hardly used, but still
quite nice.

Taka
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Re: OT: Digital Queston On Another Camera Brand

2002-05-04 Thread Angel Ramos

Bruce:
Think of the smartmedia as an electronic floppy disk.  The actual 
electronic controller for the smartmedia format in the camera is limited 
to only work with 2MB cards.  Think of it like an old 720k floppy (3.5 
inch) reader.  While you can stick a 1.4 MB floppy into it you will not 
be able to read it.  That keeps the cost down,  in that particular 
camera model. One very important caution, if you have an external 
smartmedia reader attached to your PC. While this reader can write, 
read, format and erase the files after you have transferred them into 
the pc,  only use it for reading.  There could be a high probability of 
damaging the smartmedia if you write, format or erase it from an 
external reader. What may happen is that while you will be able to use 
it in the pc reader/writer,  the camera may report it as a damaged card 
or a card with an error in the allocation area, this will make the card 
un usable in the camera.  I know from personal and other's experiences. 
This is a random problem with the smartmedia format. 

Angel
Arecibo, Puerto Rico

Bruce Ferguson wrote:

>Hi All
>
>My son was given a basic digital camera (Digital Dream Digital 2000), it's
>identical in appearance as to the Jenoptic JD11 and Samsung Digimax 800K.
>Though the Digimax  has a higher resolution (1024 X 768), the specs and
>operations are identical to each other.
>
>The Digital 2000 uses a removable SmartMedia card, and came with a 2Mb card
>(as do the others).  Since the manual was missing, I called Digital Dream
>and asked what size cards can it take.  They informed me that it only takes
>2Mb cards.
>
>Not delving any further with their answer until recently, when I started
>pondering why does the camera only recognise 2Mb cards and not larger ones.
>After all, a digital camera basically exposes and processes the image,
>turning it into a file and stores it on a card.  So the bigger the card the
>more images it is able to store.  But since the Digital 2000 can only
>recognise 2Mb cards, I have come to the conclusion, that there must be
>something preventing the camera from recognising or storing images to larger
>cards.
>
>Does anyone know why the camera is limited to 2MB cards, and why it should
>not be able to save to bigger ones?
>
>Regards
>Bruce Ferguson
>Canterbury
>Kent
>
>"Freedom is the freedom to say, 2+2=4.  If that is granted all else
>follows."
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Re: Possible solution to problem w/ Super Program- need advice

2002-05-04 Thread Rfsindg

Taka,

Take the camera to a repair person and get an estimate on the spot.  Have 
this amount as a negotiating point.  You are already out the $10 or so 
shipping involved.  $120 would be just fine for a CLA'ed Super Program.  Much 
more is not such a good deal.  Repairing the A50/2 is probably not 
worthwhile.  

Did you buy this from a southern climate?

Regards,  Bob S.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< OK, here's the deal:
 
 I bought a Super Program off of ebay, advertised as in excellent
 condition.
 
 Camera arrives in a box that is a bit small, has a small dent in the
 bottom
 plate, don't know whether that was from shipping or not. Camera looks
 okay
 externally, but when I remove the lens, guess what? Of course, the
 mirror foam
 is all deteriorated and sticking to the mirror. Testing by shooting
 several
 frames makes it worse. Obviously, the camera needs CLA.
 
 Talk to the seller, he says the camera is in excellent condition- I send
 him
 digital photos of the camera's dent and the mirror foam.
 
 He offers to contribute towards the cost of CLA.
 
 I think other than the mirror foam, the camera looks pretty good. The
 A50/2.0
 is worthless- aperture doesn't look hexagonal when stopped down- nearly
 pentagonal
 as one of the blades isn't stopping down properly.
 
 For $120, I guess I can't ask for too much, but is this a fair
 resolution, provided
 the seller gives me $60 back towards CLA? I think it's fair, any
 suggestions for a
 counteroffer if he rejects this proposal?
 
 Without PDML, I'd totally be up the creek w/ this deal- thanks again to
 all.
 
 Taka >>
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Possible solution to problem w/ Super Program- need advice

2002-05-04 Thread TM

OK, here's the deal:

I bought a Super Program off of ebay, advertised as in excellent
condition.

Camera arrives in a box that is a bit small, has a small dent in the
bottom
plate, don't know whether that was from shipping or not. Camera looks
okay
externally, but when I remove the lens, guess what? Of course, the
mirror foam
is all deteriorated and sticking to the mirror. Testing by shooting
several
frames makes it worse. Obviously, the camera needs CLA.

Talk to the seller, he says the camera is in excellent condition- I send
him
digital photos of the camera's dent and the mirror foam.

He offers to contribute towards the cost of CLA.

I think other than the mirror foam, the camera looks pretty good. The
A50/2.0
is worthless- aperture doesn't look hexagonal when stopped down- nearly
pentagonal
as one of the blades isn't stopping down properly.

For $120, I guess I can't ask for too much, but is this a fair
resolution, provided
the seller gives me $60 back towards CLA? I think it's fair, any
suggestions for a
counteroffer if he rejects this proposal?

Without PDML, I'd totally be up the creek w/ this deal- thanks again to
all.

Taka
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RE: Rexatar 300/4?

2002-05-04 Thread Paul F. Stregevsky

The seller tells me the following:
Closest focusing is 4 meters.
The filter size is 77.
It is Multicoated. It does say MC.

I wrote:

Anyone know about this lens?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1350615901

Who made it?
Is it sold by another name?

Paul Franklin Stregevsky
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Re: 300mm f4 screwmount lens- value?

2002-05-04 Thread Otis Wright, Jr.

My SMCT 300/4 has a nice tripod mount.  Bought it used, so I can't say
whether it came that way or mount was added latter.

Otis Wright

Tom Ivar Helbekkmo wrote:

> Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > My 300/4 screwmount has a tripod mount. It's a Super Multi Coated
> > Takumar, the last of the screwmount 300s.
>
> Mine is labeled "Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4/300", and does not
> have the tripod mount.  Got it for a song, because there was a loose
> screw clinking around inside it, near the aperture mechanism, and had
> it completely overhauled by Pentax.  Total cost, for a lens that now
> looks and feels absolutely brand new, was about $150.  :-)  At the
> time, I asked my Pentax service tech whether it was supposed to have a
> tripod mount, so that I'd know to look for a used one, but he said
> there never was one for this model.  He may have been mistaken, of
> course -- but he's a collector himself, and very, very knowledgeable,
> so I tend to doubt it.  Still, there is an area just behind the
> Auto/Manual selector ring, where a tripod mount collar might fit...
>
> I'll see if I can get some digital photos of the lens posted...
>
> -tih
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OT FS Things

2002-05-04 Thread Collin Brendemuehl

Bogen tripod bag.  $15
Darkroom bottle (20 or so)& trays (6,8x10).  $20
Two slide copiers.
   #1 t-mount and includes canon breech T-adapter  $20
   #2 Use enlarger as a slide copier.  $15

Lots of other stuff.
http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&userid=dpconsult.com&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=25


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Re: Why I Don't Like Automatic TTL Metering

2002-05-04 Thread Bruce Dayton

Shel,

As a follow on, prior to matrix metering and wide latitude print
films, I preferred manual mode for precisely the type of problem that
you refer to.


Bruce



Saturday, May 04, 2002, 7:17:32 AM, you wrote:

SB> I decided to exercise the ME Supers this week, and was thinking how nice
SB> it would be not to have to think about exposure settings.  I'd just put
SB> the camera on automatic, set an aperture, and fire away.

SB> Well, that was a fantasy!  Here's the routine - camera set on auto,
SB> focus shot, note reading out of the corner of my eye, reframe for subtle
SB> compositional elements, exposure changes because the balance of light
SB> read by the meter is slightly different even though the overall light
SB> has not changed.  Gotta think - which is the right exposure?  What's
SB> changed in the viewfinder?  Is something very bright or very dark now in
SB> the scene. What's the metering pattern for the ME S? 

SB> Unacceptable ... it's more work than using a spot meter or an incident
SB> meter to read the scene and then just setting the camera and not
SB> worrying about the details of exposure.
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Re: Why I Don't Like Automatic TTL Metering

2002-05-04 Thread Bruce Dayton

Shel,

That's actually why matrix metering and print films work reasonably
well.  The matrix meter is not as influenced by minor compositional
changes and print film has just reasonable latitude to deal with minor
variances.  I have on occasion bracketed print film by 2 stops either
side and can only see a slight contrast loss on the -2 stop side in
the print.

It probably comes back to that no brainer concept you talked about in
shooting color film (at least print film).


Bruce



Saturday, May 04, 2002, 7:17:32 AM, you wrote:

SB> I decided to exercise the ME Supers this week, and was thinking how nice
SB> it would be not to have to think about exposure settings.  I'd just put
SB> the camera on automatic, set an aperture, and fire away.

SB> Well, that was a fantasy!  Here's the routine - camera set on auto,
SB> focus shot, note reading out of the corner of my eye, reframe for subtle
SB> compositional elements, exposure changes because the balance of light
SB> read by the meter is slightly different even though the overall light
SB> has not changed.  Gotta think - which is the right exposure?  What's
SB> changed in the viewfinder?  Is something very bright or very dark now in
SB> the scene. What's the metering pattern for the ME S? 

SB> Unacceptable ... it's more work than using a spot meter or an incident
SB> meter to read the scene and then just setting the camera and not
SB> worrying about the details of exposure.
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Re: 300mm f4 screwmount lens- value?

2002-05-04 Thread Tom Ivar Helbekkmo

Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> My 300/4 screwmount has a tripod mount. It's a Super Multi Coated
> Takumar, the last of the screwmount 300s.

Mine is labeled "Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4/300", and does not
have the tripod mount.  Got it for a song, because there was a loose
screw clinking around inside it, near the aperture mechanism, and had
it completely overhauled by Pentax.  Total cost, for a lens that now
looks and feels absolutely brand new, was about $150.  :-)  At the
time, I asked my Pentax service tech whether it was supposed to have a
tripod mount, so that I'd know to look for a used one, but he said
there never was one for this model.  He may have been mistaken, of
course -- but he's a collector himself, and very, very knowledgeable,
so I tend to doubt it.  Still, there is an area just behind the
Auto/Manual selector ring, where a tripod mount collar might fit...

I'll see if I can get some digital photos of the lens posted...

-tih
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Re: OT:NAFTA was: Pentax Program Plus

2002-05-04 Thread frank theriault

Hi, Shel,

As opposed to my comments?   (sorry, couldn't resist) ;-)

regards,
frank

Shel Belinkoff wrote:

> Oh, Frank ... you went there.  Sophisticated and lucid political
> commentary cannot be far behind.
>

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Re: Using a Macro Lens

2002-05-04 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Hi Mark ...

How does all this change when using a different format?  If I were using
a 6x6 instead of a 35mm frame, would the results be any different?  I
don't see a way of including the format size in these calculations.

Mark Cassino wrote:
 
> Hi Shel -
> 
> I'm referring to the ratio of the pipe's physical size to the size of it's
> image on the film.
> 
> So -- put it all in metric first:
> 
> Your pipe is roughly 90mm long. You plan to use 80% of the 35mm frame, so
> the image will be 28mm long. The magnification ratio is 0.3 - so you are
> shooting at roughly one third lifesized (my 1/4th life sized was a little off.)
> 
> You want 1/2 inch DOF - so that is ~13mm of DOF.
> 
> You now have all the info you need to solve the problem. The basic formula is:
> 
> DOF = ((2 * f_stop*circle_of_confusion_size) *(magnification + 1)) /
> magnification squared.
> 
> I use 0.033 mm as the circle of confusion size. What this means is that
> I'll consider a point on the film that is 0.033 mm in diameter to be
> "sharp" - i.e. even though it is out of focus, it's so slightly out of
> focus it looks sharp.
> 
> We know all the values except f stop, so:
> 
> 13mm = ((2* f stop * 0.033) * (0.3 +1)) / 0.3 squared.
> 
> You _could_ just solve that equation for the f-stop, but since the choices
> are limited I just plug in a guess and go from there.
> 
> So - guessing f16 you have:
> 
> ((2*16*0.033)*(0.3+1) / 0.09 = 15.25 mm DOF
> 
> Guessing f 11:
> 
> ((2*11*0.033)*(03+1) / 0.09 = 10.5 mm DOF
> 
> At the half stop (f13) you get 12.4

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Re: leaf shutter for 35mm? (was RE: how good)

2002-05-04 Thread T Rittenhouse

Actually, it would not be such a problem. As in leaf shutter lenses for
focal plane shutter medium format cameras, you would have to manually cock
the leaf shutter, and set the focal plane shutter on a very low speed. When
you fired the shutter, the leaf shutter would close, the mirror would go up,
the focal plane shutter would open, the leaf shutter would fire, the focal
plane shutter would close, the mirror would drop. Then you would manually
have to cock the leaf shutter again to open it.

If you insisted on the leaf shutter opening and cocking automatically, you
would need a new body and the lens would not work with older bodies. In
other words you would have to give up some automation with the leaf shutter,
incuding auto metering. Why not just buy a body that will sync at 1/250 and
be done with it?

Ciao,
Graywolf
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- Original Message -
From: Len Paris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: leaf shutter for 35mm? (was RE: how good)


> Think about it.  The lens shutter would have to be open for
> focussing and composing the picture.  Then, before you could
> actually shoot, you'd have to close the lens shutter, move the
> mirror out of the path, open the focal plane shutter and,
> lastly, trigger the lens shutter to expose the film.
>
> Pentax would have to build an entirely new K-mount 35mm body to
> do that.  They know how to do it, or there wouldn't be any 645
> or 67 bodies that could use leaf shutter lenses, either.  Bottom
> line is:  No.  Such a lens would not work with any K-mount body.
>
> Len
> ---
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Johan Schoone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 7:00 AM
> Subject: Re: leaf shutter for 35mm? (was RE: how good)
>
>
> >
> > That would make a great addition to the lens catalog. Would
> the expected
> > sales volume justify its introduction? Would such a lens work
> with any
> > K-mount body?
> > --
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Why I Don't Like Automatic TTL Metering

2002-05-04 Thread Shel Belinkoff

I decided to exercise the ME Supers this week, and was thinking how nice
it would be not to have to think about exposure settings.  I'd just put
the camera on automatic, set an aperture, and fire away.

Well, that was a fantasy!  Here's the routine - camera set on auto,
focus shot, note reading out of the corner of my eye, reframe for subtle
compositional elements, exposure changes because the balance of light
read by the meter is slightly different even though the overall light
has not changed.  Gotta think - which is the right exposure?  What's
changed in the viewfinder?  Is something very bright or very dark now in
the scene. What's the metering pattern for the ME S? 

Unacceptable ... it's more work than using a spot meter or an incident
meter to read the scene and then just setting the camera and not
worrying about the details of exposure.

-- 
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Sorry

2002-05-04 Thread b_rubenstein

Sorry about including an entire digest in a response. 
I'll try to do this when I'm more awake.
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Re: Pentax Program Plus

2002-05-04 Thread James Adams

Just got two emails back and the seller is going to send it again by USPS.
He wants says 'I will return it via regular post', then 'How about I send it
back via regular Parcel Post?'. No apology. Considering the delays (it's 11
days already) I think it should at least be sent Priority Air.

He has responded, and chose option 1. albeit half-heatedly. [Option 2. being
I file a buyer complaint with PayPal, and they will refund the auction
payment of $114.51, and leave negative feedback with Ebay]. (this is not
something I want to do, but it may be inevitable).

Bill,
I may well still take you up on your offer, even if I decide to accept the
Pentax Program Plus, 50mm f2 SMC-A lens from him. I've no idea how I'll take
to a Program Plus. I like the ME and MES, and want to fit a motor drive to
the later and a Program Plus. Does the PP accept Auto-focus lenses?
James

> - Original Message -
> From: "Bill D. Casselberry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 7:41 PM
> Subject: Re: Pentax Program Plus

> > James Adams wrote:
> >
> > > The Pentax Program Plus I bought for $102 on Ebay was supposed to come
> by
> > > USPS, as I requested ship by USPS and NOT UPS. The seller went ahead
and
> > > sent it by UPS. It was supposed to arrive this afternoon with no
> charges.
> >
> > I just put a ProgramPlus up for sale this AM for $75
> > If you manage to return that one, drop me an email. I'll
> > gladly USPS it up to you.
> >
> > Bill
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Re: Flatbed for MF scanning ? was: Film scanners

2002-05-04 Thread Bruce Dayton

Jan,

Scanning is certainly an issue for MF.  Ideally, you should get a film
scanner that handles the bigger negative.  For many, myself included,
the cost is an issue.

I ended up trying an Epson 2450 flatbed.  The concept and design is
nice - they have a light source in the lid for when you are scanning
negs and slides with a carrier to hold the neg in place.  Two issues I
found with my unit.
1 - Film flatness can be a problem.  I found that a strip in the
holder worked better than singles.  At least two, preferrably three
would help quite a bit with flatness.
2 - Sharpness.  I am guessing that the diffused light source in the
lid makes for a softer image.  With my Minolta Scan Dual II at 2800
dpi scanning and correcting the image in PaintShop Pro, I don't have
to apply any sharpening to get a sharp 8X10 out of my Epson 870.  When
I would scan the MF neg with the Epson unit at 2400 dpi, I would have to apply
sharpening to attempt to get a sharp 8X10 out of it.  Viewing the
image on screen only can be deceiving.  My final test is to print an
8X10.

So in summary, either my Epson unit (US $400 - gotta love the price)
was defective (scans of prints were excellent) or you need to get a
film scanner that handles MF.  I believe the latter, so I'm saving my
pennies, and just using my lab for prints and occasional scans (theirs
are good) until I finish buying the 67 glass I want and then on to the
scanner.


Bruce



Saturday, May 04, 2002, 2:26:55 AM, you wrote:

JvW> On Sat, 4 May 2002 09:22:57 +1000, John Coyle wrote:

>>Taka, don't go that route for 35mm, unless you are certain that the 
>>flatbed will do in excess of 1800dpi _optical_.  My flatbed supposedly 
>>goes to 1600,but it's actually 400 optical with digital interpolation 
>>taking it to 1600, and the results for 35mm are rubbish.  It's not bad 
>>for MF, and for documents and prints it's fine, but after 18 months of 
>>using it I went out and bought a film scanner as well.

JvW> Thinking about a Pentax 67 in my future, I was wondering how well
JvW> a flatbed scanner would work with those larger negatives/slides ...

JvW> I use a Nikon Coolscan III for my 35mm stuff (using 2700 ppi).

JvW> I guess you would need at least 1200 ppi optical resolution from
JvW> a flatbed to get the same quality ...

JvW> And, of course the quality should be even better than 35mm stuff :-)
JvW> Am I correct in assuming a flatbed + 6x7 format will not be better ?

JvW> The alternative I have in mind is the Minolta scan Dual Pro, but that
JvW> is quite expensive ...

JvW> Any thoughts ?

JvW> Regards, JvW
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Re: OT:NAFTA was: Pentax Program Plus

2002-05-04 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Oh, Frank ... you went there.  Sophisticated and lucid political
commentary cannot be far behind.

frank theriault wrote:
> 
> Huh?  Ask the US softwood industry about that one, Len.  Tens of
> thousands of British Columbia foresters and sawmill workers are losing
> jobs, because of  American import duties imposed because Canadian
> softwood is cheaper, better quality and more plentiful.
> 
> As Wheatfield indicated in another post, you really don't want to go
> there.  From our perspective, NAFTA really seems to mean, "We (the US)
> want unrestricted access to your (Canadian) markets and resources, but
> if we (the US) perceive that any of your goods are so competitive that
> our industries suffer, we'll make up some excuse so we can place a
> countervaling duty on your goods.  Go ahead, have the matter
> adjudicated;  we don't care, by the time there's a hearing and decision,
> your industry will be so screwed, it won't matter."
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Re: OT:NAFTA was: Pentax Program Plus

2002-05-04 Thread frank theriault

Huh?  Ask the US softwood industry about that one, Len.  Tens of
thousands of British Columbia foresters and sawmill workers are losing
jobs, because of  American import duties imposed because Canadian
softwood is cheaper, better quality and more plentiful.

As Wheatfield indicated in another post, you really don't want to go
there.  From our perspective, NAFTA really seems to mean, "We (the US)
want unrestricted access to your (Canadian) markets and resources, but
if we (the US) perceive that any of your goods are so competitive that
our industries suffer, we'll make up some excuse so we can place a
countervaling duty on your goods.  Go ahead, have the matter
adjudicated;  we don't care, by the time there's a hearing and decision,
your industry will be so screwed, it won't matter."

What's imposed at the border on (some) incoming camera shipments via
Post is sales taxes and a small processing fee, not duty or tariffs.

Len Paris wrote:

> I think it was so intended but Canada still seems to impose
> tariffs at their end.  I've received stuff from Canada without
> having to pay extra.  Do you suppose they aren't living up to
> their end of the treaty?  Nah!  That would never happen.
>

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Re: Myrtle Beach? temp off list

2002-05-04 Thread Jerome Daryl Coombs-Reyes

> I'm going on vacation with the family for a week so
> I'll be off-list for a week as of tomorrow.
> (would you have noticed?)

Why of course! In fact, this place has seemed quite desolate since your
departure.  The list just isn't the same .  Anyhow, Hope you had a good
time, Cory, and got plenty of great family pics to add to your collection.
I could use such a trip myself.  BTW, if all goes well, I'll be teaching
part time in your neck of the woods soon (WCTC). Extra income for a
few more Pentax (on topic!) lenses. TTYL,
jerome
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Re: Pentax Program Plus

2002-05-04 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Paul F. Stregevsky
Subject: Re: Pentax Program Plus


> I thought the whole idea of NAFTA--the North American Free
Trading
> Zone--was to do away with nonsense like tariffs for any
commerce between
> Canada, the U.S., and Mexico. What gives? Are used goods still
liable?

NAFTA was designed to allow free movement of goods between the
borders of the signatory countries. The simple fact is, it isn't
working because of protectionist policies of the US Department
of Commerce that put rather onerous duties on products coming
into the USA, in contravention of the NAFTA agreement.
In the situation at hand, the Canadian customs people refused to
believe that an article being shipped into the country was a
gift (not unreasonable) and applied a tarrif. Add to the UPS
charges which are always a ripoff when they trans border ship,
and the fellow got dinged.
GST is charged on any transaction in Canada, they seem to apply
provincial sales taxes first, and make the buyer go after a
rebate later, which I find a bit disgusting.
However, it had nothing to do with NAFTA.
What James got dinged for was because the sender didn't follow
instructions, and lied on a customs declaration.
An expensive lesson, to be sure.

William Robb
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Re: Pentax Program Plus

2002-05-04 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Len Paris
Subject: Re: Pentax Program Plus


> I think it was so intended but Canada still seems to impose
> tariffs at their end.  I've received stuff from Canada without
> having to pay extra.  Do you suppose they aren't living up to
> their end of the treaty?  Nah!  That would never happen.

You don't want to go there Len. You REALLY don't want to go
there.

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Re: Possible bargain

2002-05-04 Thread Paul Ewins

> >   Seriously, how much in American $ would you be selling it for?
>
> Don't know.  I don't even know what the regular prices are in other parts
> of the world.  Let me see it and make sure it works before I make up my
> mind.

I recently bought one for AUD$550 from a dealer and there is one for sale at
another dealer for AUD$750, while a third advertised one for AUD$450, but I
didn't get to see that one to appraise its condition.

These are seriously expensive here when new, where most things are sold at
list price, but while you are in the UK you could head over to Robert White
(www.robertwhite.co.uk) who advertises them new for GBP 245 (+VAT).

NZ$275 sounds too good to pass up.

Paul Ewins
Melbourne, Australia
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RE: Sorry,more home proccessing

2002-05-04 Thread tom

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist
>
>
> My water seems to be free of minerals. I
> sometimes use a
> distilled water final rinse, but I've noticed that it doesn't really
> affect the final results.

I seem to have super hard water and need 2 rinses in distilled water
to get rid of spots.

tv
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Re: Pentax Program Plus

2002-05-04 Thread Len Paris

I think it was so intended but Canada still seems to impose
tariffs at their end.  I've received stuff from Canada without
having to pay extra.  Do you suppose they aren't living up to
their end of the treaty?  Nah!  That would never happen.

Len
---

- Original Message -
From: "Paul F. Stregevsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: Pentax Program Plus


> I thought the whole idea of NAFTA--the North American Free
Trading
> Zone--was to do away with nonsense like tariffs for any
commerce between
> Canada, the U.S., and Mexico. What gives? Are used goods still
liable?
>
> Paul Franklin Stregevsky
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Re: Flatbed for MF scanning ? was: Film scanners

2002-05-04 Thread Andreas

On 4 May 2002, at 11:26, Jan van Wijk wrote:

> Thinking about a Pentax 67 in my future, I was wondering how well a
> flatbed scanner would work with those larger negatives/slides ...
> 
> I use a Nikon Coolscan III for my 35mm stuff (using 2700 ppi).
> 
> I guess you would need at least 1200 ppi optical resolution from
> a flatbed to get the same quality ...
> 
> And, of course the quality should be even better than 35mm stuff :-)
> Am I correct in assuming a flatbed + 6x7 format will not be better ?
> 
> The alternative I have in mind is the Minolta scan Dual Pro, but that
> is quite expensive ...
> 
> Any thoughts ?
> 
> Regards, JvW

Hi Jan,

first I must admit that I haven't read the complete threat so it might have said 
before.
Do not look only in ppi. If you do not only color neg. the density is quite important 
and
to my experience the flatbed scanners are not so good at this. Do not look at the
manufacturer's indication because you won't get it in real life (the same is true for 
the resolution).
It seems that the flatbed scanner manuals 'lie' a bit more than the film scanner's.

Andreas
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Re: leaf shutter for 35mm? (was RE: how good)

2002-05-04 Thread Len Paris

Think about it.  The lens shutter would have to be open for
focussing and composing the picture.  Then, before you could
actually shoot, you'd have to close the lens shutter, move the
mirror out of the path, open the focal plane shutter and,
lastly, trigger the lens shutter to expose the film.

Pentax would have to build an entirely new K-mount 35mm body to
do that.  They know how to do it, or there wouldn't be any 645
or 67 bodies that could use leaf shutter lenses, either.  Bottom
line is:  No.  Such a lens would not work with any K-mount body.

Len
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Subject: Re: leaf shutter for 35mm? (was RE: how good)


>
> That would make a great addition to the lens catalog. Would
the expected
> sales volume justify its introduction? Would such a lens work
with any
> K-mount body?
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Re: My Dear Canadian Friends ...

2002-05-04 Thread Martin Mielke

Sorry for the late response to this - I've been out of town. Take the m.o.
(if you still have it) to a U.S. Post Office. There is no absolutely no
charge to cash Canadian Postal Money Orders at any U.S. Post Office. On the
other hand, from what I have heard, many American banks will charge a fee. I
found this information out the hard way.


Martin
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From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: OT: My Dear Canadian Friends ...


> ... I recently sold an item on eBay to the tune of about $30.00 US.  The
> buyer is Canadian.  I asked for an International Money Order, which I
> think he sent.  It is drawn on Canadian Post, made out to be negotiable
> in US funds, and is pink (I seem to recall someone mentioning that
> pink(!) is the color that you folks in the Great White North use for
> Int'l MOs).
>
> To make a short story very brief, my bank wants $15.00 to process this
> payment, and the person I spoke with said it could take as long as two
> weeks to process.
>
> So, do you all have any comments on this transaction?  Any suggestions
> on how I can get paid without being nicked for so much?  Is what I
> received an Int'l Money Order (It doesn't say that on the form)?
> --
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Re: Pentax Program Plus

2002-05-04 Thread Paul F. Stregevsky

I thought the whole idea of NAFTA--the North American Free Trading 
Zone--was to do away with nonsense like tariffs for any commerce between 
Canada, the U.S., and Mexico. What gives? Are used goods still liable?

Paul Franklin Stregevsky
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Re: how good

2002-05-04 Thread Pentxuser

I have the old Tokina 100-300 F4 in manual focus. It is very good, very well 
built. I understand the af version is even a touch better.


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Re: Re: Sorry,more home proccessing

2002-05-04 Thread Len Paris

Bottled water may be just as hard as tap water.  In fact,
sometimes the only differences between bottled water and tap
water are the container and the price.  I don't think it's a
coincidence that "Evian" is "naive" spelled backwards.

One of the readily available filters will go a long way to clean
up tap water to where it is better than bottled water.
Distilled water is the best but it is probably a bit of
overkill, unless you have an economical way of getting it, like
a home water distiller.

Len
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> We have very hard water in my area so i'm
> leaning on bottled water for at least the rinse.
>
> Dave
>
>  Begin Original Message 
>
> From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Fri, 03 May 2002 18:42:35 +
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Sorry,more home proccessing
>
>
>
> temperature. My water seems to be free of
> minerals. I sometimes use a
> distilled water final rinse, but I've noticed
> that it doesn't really
> affect the final results.
> Paul
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Re: leaf shutter for 35mm? (was RE: how good)

2002-05-04 Thread Johan Schoone

Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For those saying it's difficult:
> Olympus Stylus Epic, street price $100 for the whole camera, 35mm/2.8
> lens, shutter 4-1/1000s. 

This is a p&s camera with separate viewfinder. That is a completely
different story.

> As far as OPC, Pentax is making it for 645 and 67. Seems like a logical
> step to make one or too for 35mm as well. SMC-FA 85mm/2 LS -- wouldn't
> THAT be sweet?

That would make a great addition to the lens catalog. Would the expected
sales volume justify its introduction? Would such a lens work with any
K-mount body?
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Re: Jacob Riis

2002-05-04 Thread Paul Stenquist

You're right, it's not Far Rockaway. I couldn't think of the area's
name. Is it Nepponsit Beach? (I probably misspelled it :-). It's also
close to where that plane went down last fall.
Paul

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> Just to be slighty tedious, Riis Park is not in Far
> Rockaway. It's just over the Marine Park Bridge, and due
> south of Brooklyn. I got dragged off to that place every
> weekend for years in the late 60's. Well before one of
> the sections of the beach went topless...
> 
> From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> And more importantly, Riis Park on Far Rockaway had a
> nude beach back in
> the eighties. Great photo ops.
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Re: FS: 40mm Pancake Lens

2002-05-04 Thread Johan Schoone

frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[Pancake lens for USD 30]

> Excellent score!!

There doesn't seem to be a market for this equipment over here.
You will probably find much higher prices in the northwestern part of the
Netherlands.
 
> And you didn't mention that on the "best bargain" (or whatever it was)
> thread of a few weeks ago?

I must have missed it because of the backlog I hat that time.
 
> You got an excellent deal on that one, my friend...

Believe it or not, that shop is still in business.

About eBay: There is a `pancake' for sale on ebay.de . The highest bid
so far is EUR 96 with one more day to go.
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Re: OT: Gerrard 600

2002-05-04 Thread MZ3_fella _

Garrard 600 wasn't that a turntable?

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Re: Will Pentax join Olympus?

2002-05-04 Thread Pål Audun Jensen

Warren wrote:

>Further they find that they can
>design and sell an equivalent 17-35/2, 35-100/2,
>80/200/2, 300/2, 400/2.8 & 600/4 lens for half what
>the competition is doing in a system that not only has
>the same resolution and capabilities and weighs a
>fraction of the traditional systems.


This is certainly something that would tempt me - even to switch from 
Pentax for digital. Not only will there be the usual digital advantages but 
other advantages like faster, smaller, cheaper, and more compact lenses. If 
the quality of such a system can equal or surpass 35mm film, then I see no 
reason for not embracing this system instead of a 35mm based digital system.

Pål
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Re: Will Pentax join Olympus?

2002-05-04 Thread Pål Audun Jensen

Mishka wrote:


>To the point: if there'll be small and light and fast and inexpensive
>wide angle glass for the new format, hell, I wouldn't mind spending a
>hundred bucks for a top-notch equivalent of 35mm 20/2 that's half the
>size and weight.


That's my position as well. I never been convinced that 35mm is the "right" 
digital platform.
Whatever happens, Pentax won't be in the first line among those catering to 
the new digital "standard". Pentax will be, or perhaps has been, approached 
by the consortium to join. Pentax do have, however, an APS slr system 
developed that never reached the market. Perhaps they could built something 
around this?
Anyway, Pentax first digital slr will almost certainly be a K-mount slr.


Pål
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Re: Pentax on Camera Direct Site/Hood Case

2002-05-04 Thread Camdir

In a message dated 03/05/02 20:33:53 GMT Daylight Time, Paul writes:

<< Yes, Peter, the hood is brand new. It was one of three new ones for sale 
on US EBay last week, all from different sellers I bought one, the other went 
for I guess around $27, the third, incredibly, received no bids, though it 
opened at $20 ( http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1347493628 
). That seller keeps trying, but never gets bids.  >>

No, thanks. I was just curious as to your impressions of that bizarre case.

Kind regards

Peter
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Re: Sears Auto KS (Ricoh XR-2s): First impressions

2002-05-04 Thread Frantisek Vlcek

vvn> The eyepiece blind is a nice touch: It's an internal blind, or shutter, that 
completely blocks off the light for autoexposed timed shots. Unlike aftermarket blinds 
like HAMA's, this one allows
Just like in K2 and K2DMDs :)
vvn> The main reason I wanted to try this model was to have the moving needle with 
aperture-priority. I had assumed that the needle would float continuously as I merely 
aimed the lens here and there.
vvn> That's how it worked on my Minox 35 GT and Olympu XA compacts.

vvn> Wrong. In order to use the exposure meter, you must keep the shutter release 
partially depressed. I find this arrangement awkward. Each time I remove my right hand 
from the shutter release to
vvn> change the lens aperture ring, the needle swings to the bottom. I don't want to 
have to remember how many want stops to dial in; I want to SEE the results as I twist 
the dial.

vvn> Does the K2 work this way? Or does the needle swing even when you remove your 
finger from the shutter release?

The K2 works very nicely (or at least K2DMD, I don't have a plain K2)
 in this regard - if you pull the rapind wind lever into the "ready"
 position and depress the shutter release, it stays depressed and
 meters continuously as long as there are batteries inside :) When you
 push the lever back into storage position it flips up and stops
 metering. Or with the lever in storage position you can just depress
 and hold the release normally.

Good light,
   Frantisek Vlcek
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Flatbed for MF scanning ? was: Film scanners

2002-05-04 Thread Jan van Wijk

On Sat, 4 May 2002 09:22:57 +1000, John Coyle wrote:

>Taka, don't go that route for 35mm, unless you are certain that the 
>flatbed will do in excess of 1800dpi _optical_.  My flatbed supposedly 
>goes to 1600,but it's actually 400 optical with digital interpolation 
>taking it to 1600, and the results for 35mm are rubbish.  It's not bad 
>for MF, and for documents and prints it's fine, but after 18 months of 
>using it I went out and bought a film scanner as well.

Thinking about a Pentax 67 in my future, I was wondering how well
a flatbed scanner would work with those larger negatives/slides ...

I use a Nikon Coolscan III for my 35mm stuff (using 2700 ppi).

I guess you would need at least 1200 ppi optical resolution from
a flatbed to get the same quality ...

And, of course the quality should be even better than 35mm stuff :-)
Am I correct in assuming a flatbed + 6x7 format will not be better ?

The alternative I have in mind is the Minolta scan Dual Pro, but that
is quite expensive ...

Any thoughts ?

Regards, JvW
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Re[2]: leaf shutter for 35mm? (was RE: how good)

2002-05-04 Thread Bruce Dayton

Robert,

I'll try it out and let the list know how it went.


Bruce



Saturday, May 04, 2002, 1:36:30 AM, you wrote:

RH> Bruce Dayton wrote:

RH> [snip]


>> Now I guess I'm going to have to try the high speed synch and see how
>> well it does. Also, remember that fill flash is usually compensated
>> down a stop or two, which helps bring back the guide number a bit.

RH> I hope you will report back here on how it goes. There probably is an 
RH> MZ-S in my (distant) future.

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Re: leaf shutter for 35mm? (was RE: how good)

2002-05-04 Thread Robert Harris

Bruce Dayton wrote:

[snip]


> Now I guess I'm going to have to try the high speed synch and see how
> well it does. Also, remember that fill flash is usually compensated
> down a stop or two, which helps bring back the guide number a bit.

I hope you will report back here on how it goes. There probably is an 
MZ-S in my (distant) future.

Bob
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300mm f4 screwmount lens- value?

2002-05-04 Thread kelvin

Hi

Which version is yours? My super tak 300/4 didn't come with
a collar either... and I was wondering if they removed it
prior to sale as the caps were also missing.

I bought it for $65 as a "bargain" as it was infested with
fungus ... and cleaned it out myself.


Date: 03 May 2002 09:53:18 +0200
From: Tom Ivar Helbekkmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 300mm f4 screwmount lens- value?

"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The screwmount 300/4s have a tripod collar; the K-mount doesn't.

I sure wish my screw mount 300/4 had one, but it doesn't, and my
Pentax service tech says it's not just missing, either; it was never
there.  Different models, maybe?  Or did you get it backwards?

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