Re: Re[6]: What is the most quiet body?
on 12.06.02 17:11, Bruce Dayton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sylwester, No arguments there. I have and use the MZ-S and am very happy with it. The original post discussed the need for high speed frame rate and very fast AF for motorsports, I believe. The F100 does have a faster winder and it's AF is probably (especially with the silent wave lenses) faster. For the type of shooting desired by the poster, I felt that this was not Pentax strongest area. Since he was going to spend quite a bit of money, it still makes sense to explore all options. Sorry, I have missed first post in this thread :-) So in this case F100 would be probably better choice, but only with AF-S (Silent Wave) lenses. AF motor and AF logic in MZ-S is very fast - probably equally fast if not faster that one in F100. But for motorsports ultrasonic-type lens would be better choice anyway. -- Best Regards Sylwek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 100mm 2.8 Macro vs. 100mm 2.8
Mark Roberts wrote: The F version, by the way, is identical to the FA version except for cosmetics and the replacement of the focus limit switch with a focus friction control. The FA has a focus limiter as well. I think it limits to 2m or 1.5m or thereabouts. Cheers, - Dave - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 100mm 2.8 Macro vs. 100mm 2.8
Hi, On 12 Jun 2002 at 16:51, Mishka wrote: apart from myself, according to photodo.com the MTF ratings are (...) photodo tests lenses at infinity, which IMHO isn't the apropriate method for macro lenses... Gabor - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The elusive K 35mm f3.5
The first time I ever placed a bid for anything on ebay it was for one of these. I won it and there were no other bidders! All of £30 ($44) it cost me inc pp and it's been money well spent - my favourite lens, in fact the standard lens on my LX. On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Mishka wrote: I am curious: is it that much better than other 35mm's (I mean, A 35/2 and M 35/2.8)? I have the M 35/2.8 (bought it new) and the K is better. Hard to quantify, but on landscapes the pictures just 'feel' better - sharper and more saturated. I ought to do side-by-side pictures just to prove it to myself, but right now I'd part with the M 2.8 well before the K 3.5. (If anyone has a K 28mm or K 24mm they want to sell I'm over here guys!). Chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Not so elusive K 35mm f3.5
Is $60 too much? http://www.ritzcam.com/catalog/index.html Paul Ewins Melbourne, Australia - Original Message - From: Juan J. Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 11:02 AM Subject: Re: The elusive K 35mm f3.5 On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, smcforme wrote: I have been casually looking out for a SMC 35/3.5 in K-mount for months, and have not seen hide nor hair of it. I bought one in M42, and have seen 3 others for really decent prices. But in K-mount this thing must be fairly rare. Same story for the SMC 85/1.8. I just bought one of those in M42 as well. I was intending to start assembling a K-mount kit, but it would appear I'm getting pretty entrenched in the screw mount stuff. A while ago I saw one of these in a shop in San Luis Obispo, CA. I don't remember the name of the shop, but it's the one on the main street (I think it's Higuera St?). Anyway, it would be a matter of making a couple of calls to find out whether the lens is still there... j -- - - Juan J. Buhler | Lead FX Animator @ PDI | Photos at http://www.jbuhler.com - - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: anyone knows about this lens?
Hi, there were several brand versions on the market. I own the Porst version. For a few bucks a nice lens. I paid 60 US$ for mine and use it often instead of my A50mm/1,2 because I mustn't pay so much attention as for the Pentax one which is still almost mint. regards Mishka wrote: Revuenon 55mm 1.2 lens, from description: This lens was made in Japan, most likely at the glass foundry of Tomioka that has also produced high-quality lenses for Yashica, Contax and Chinon. It was sold in Germany by the photo retail chain of Photo Quelle under their brand name Revuenon. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Eclipse Photo
William Peifer wrote: The picture on the NASA site is described in the caption as a time-lapse sequence. Typically, shots like these are taken through a very strong filter (typically an optical density of 5 or so, corresponding to a filter factor of ~100,000). I remember a guy on a newsgroup a couple of years back, he wanted to set up his camera to take an all-day exposure of the sun tracing its path across the sky while exposing properly for the foreground, using a very strong ND filter. I do not know if he actually did this or not. The reciprocity effects would make things difficult to say the least... Cheers, - Dave - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 100mm 2.8 Macro vs. 100mm 2.8
Mishka wrote: there are tons of very good used 3rd party macro lenses (i personally have a pka vivitar ser. 1 100/2.5 -- terrific glass, terrific build, does 1:1, and $135 is hard to beat; my only complain is that it focuses the wrong way). unless you are a collector, or have tons of spare cash and time, i see no reason whatsoever to lust for macro a*100/2.8 The reason for buying an A lens is that it is a Pentax. I see no point in buying Pentax if you ain't going to use Pentax lenses. Pentax lenses have a certain look (and I'm not thinking of what the lenses look like), a certain color rendition and contrast, a certain feel and finish. I'll say using non Pentax lenses on a Pentax body is heresy! Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Last day in the UK
Actually its my second-last day, but its my last day of work here and I won't have internet access tomorrow. Tomorrow's plan is to get to Heathrow early, and try to get a seat with some leg room. I've enjoyed being over here and have had lots of fun getting out about at the weekends. The English weather generally lived up to its reputation: I don't think I ever saw the sun in London. Or in sunny Brighton. Many thanks go to Peter in Brighton and Cotty for their kind hospitality, and to Bob W for trying to make me spend all my money on Leica gear :) It was great to meet you guys even though it did mean having my photo taken a couple of times. I will be in touch when I get back to NZ. I arrive home at 8:10am on Sunday morning (NZ time) after 26 hours of flying. It will be nice to watch the sun rise on the domestic flight if I can keep myself awake. I am hoping for a nice clear morning so I get to see the snow-capped mountains and plains (knowing my luck I'll get to see the wing). Cheers, - Dave - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: APS Film
Mark wrote For an interesting study of the phenomenon of denial, see the rec.photo.equipment.aps newsgroup No kidding I used to monitor the rec.photo 35mm, APS and MF groups on nearly a daily basis. The 35mm group had hundreds of messages per day - the APS group usually had less than 10. APS only made a strong impact in the Japanese domestic market and in Northern Europe (Switzerland/France/Germany on up). In Scandinavia, at one time, the APS market share for zoom compacts was well over 60%. In Southern Europe (Italy/Spain/Portugal) APS was never really a factor (I don't think it ever went above a 5% share in Spain.) Central / Eastern Europe - virtually nothing. US market - somewhere around 15% of zoom compacts. Current situation - the high market shares seem to be falling (more rapidly than 35mm) while digital is on a steady increase. I heard recently that digital cameras account for around 60% of the VALUE of the total camera market across Europe, Pat _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
re; last day in UK
Hi, Dave M. wrote: I arrive home at 8:10am on Sunday morning (NZ time) after 26 hours of flying. What a bummer - losing Saturday, of all days! I hope you get paid for it... Sorry we didn't manage to meet up. If it's possible, have a good flight. You might just see (and especially hear) Concorde at Heathrow - I think it flies on saturdays. mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Not so elusive K 35mm f3.5
The quandary is is $60.00 too much to pay for one of the best 35s ever? Depends on the supply Bob - Original Message - From: Paul Ewins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Not so elusive K 35mm f3.5 Is $60 too much? http://www.ritzcam.com/catalog/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Last day in the UK
In a message dated 13/06/02 10:16:53 GMT Daylight Time, Dave writes: The English weather generally lived up to its reputation: I don't think I ever saw the sun in London. Or in sunny Brighton. You obviously weren't looking. Have a good one, and don't worry about the air traffic controllers who can't read their monitors as the text is too small. Toodle pip! Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax-A 20mm f2.8...ohhh, ahhh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I lucked out. My b-day present came today and this one is no paperweight! My source rated this one an 8+...it's more like a 9+! Almost perfect...what a gem. I'm thrilled. I saw that Richard Tillis was selling one for $549 not long ago. Mine was only $269 plus shipping. I love wides. Can't wait to shoot with this bad boy. You will indeed love this lens. It's a beauty! Post your impressions when you see your first shots. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Can you read German?
Are there any listers who read german that i could send a couple of lines of german text to, so they could tell what it means? The online translators are making a mess of it. Please contact me offlist at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Go here: http://babelfish.altavista.com/ and either translate a web page or copy and paste text directly into the box for a translation... Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Last day in the UK
Cheers Dave - have a good flight - chuck us out any old lenses you don't want as you climb over the skies of Oxfordshire ;-) Best, Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Pentax and Minolta on Life Support
An excerpt from, THE REVOLUTION IN PHOTO MARKETING, PART II - The Darker View, from: http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0206/editorial.htm Pentax and Minolta are on life support. Olympus, although strong now is relying on other manufacturers to produce their products and has little of their own technology or engineering in their cameras, although it is rumored that they will have a new camera with dedicated lenses on the market in the fall. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax and Minolta on Life Support
On Thu, 13 Jun 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An excerpt from, THE REVOLUTION IN PHOTO MARKETING, PART II - The Darker View, from: http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0206/editorial.htm I, personally, like the last paragraph: Many of these retailers see a gradual move in the future back to film. According to one, most people don't know what the hell they are doing with those digital images. A lot of people got into it as a fad. Dick Bagdassarian, says, I have 3 children. The first child has the most pictures. The last child has the least. 20 years later you look at the photos and see the value of them. You don't want to forget the big picture. Enthusiasm with digital can be very rewarding, but it may not have the information you will want years from now. You can't go back. -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: Agfa Portrait 160
Robert, The lab I use has Agfa equipment and printed on Agfa Prestige paper. The only other thing that I can come up with is that I didn't use my Lumiquest SoftBox on the flash unit. But I don't recall this shine in the past when I haven't used it. It probably would have helped, but... Bruce Thursday, June 13, 2002, 9:58:18 AM, you wrote: RW Hi, RW Can you tell us how you had the film processed/printed? Fuji, Kodak, Agfa, RW Konica, etc. ? I have some of the Agfa Portrait 160 to try out and am RW curious as to how well it prints on non-Agfa paper. I have read that the 160 RW is at its best printed using Agfa. My lab uses Kodak Royal and Fuji Crystal RW Archive papers. They seem to handle the Vista films really well. I don't RW know of any labs in my area which use Agfa processing/paper. RW Another question for the group: What process/paper does Mystic Color Lab RW use? I know they market Agfa films with the Mystics label. RW Thanks, RW Robert in Greenville SC From: Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Agfa Portrait 160 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:41:04 -0400 I just shot 3 rolls of Agfa Portrait 160 (120 format) under varied lighting condition, using fill and full flash. I found the film quite pleasing for skin tones. I liked it better than NPS for skintones, but not as much for scenics. I've had similar problems with my digicam using the Pocket Bouncer on my flash. Since then I've gone to the white card aproach. Jeff - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:37 AM Subject: Agfa Portrait 160 I just got back some rolls shot at my daughter's 8th grade graduation. All in all, I shot 1 roll of Kodak Portra 800, 2 rolls of Agfa Portrait 160, 1 roll of Fuji NHG II and one 220 roll of Konica Portrait 160. I shot this variety due to changing light conditions and wanting to test the Agfa and Konica portrait films. I was somewhat surprised to see that the Agfa portrait roll shot indoors with flash showed major shine on all faces. No blown out highlights, more like shiny makeup that really showed up. One shot had a guy in it that had no makeup on and he still had some shiny areas. I have been shooting lots of Kodak Portra and some Fuji portrait films and have not really seen this. The outdoor fillflash Agfa looked fine, just this indoor roll where flash was the main light looked bad. Has anyone else heard of or experienced this with Agfa Portrait before? I still have a couple of rolls to test with. Bruce - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . RW _ RW MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: RW http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx RW - RW This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, RW go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to RW visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax and Minolta on Life Support
Bruce tossed out for our perusal An excerpt from, THE REVOLUTION IN PHOTO MARKETING, PART II - The Darker View, from: ... digitaljournalist.org What else would one expect from an outfit that is riding the digital wave? Anything remotely affecting film in a negative (punny, huh?) way is surely news to them. Just more fodder to lure people over to the digital darker view, IMHO. Digital will eventually meet film on terms other than the immediacy of results and speed/ease of manipulation, etc - but it will be even longer still before the entire imaging scene is digitized on both the source end result fronts. The amount/cost of the peripherial equipment for quality digital is still pretty steep for all but the biggest media businesses. I know that the smaller shops certainly can't justify full digital set-up - and if they try on their operating budgets, they end up little better than a Kinko's type copy shop. The average image customer is still better off purchasing rights to a good medium format (or even 35mm) transparancy and having their 4-color print shop do the digitalization on high-end equipment. There are a few places here that flaunt digital - but none even have dedicated film scanners - let alone ability to deal w/ 120 transparancies other than old flatbed transparancy adapter machines. None even have invested in a decent inkjet printer along the lines of the set-up that Aaron has going - all using consumer printers and I would suspect that many PDML members actually own better systems for their personal use than these shops. They're just riding the wave and selling hula hoops to the masses. A high-rez film scan of a 6x7 transparancy will out-pixel any straight from camera digital file for quite some time to come - I would suspect. Don't get me wrong - digital has its uses and will become adequate for more as time goes by - but it isn't the end for quality imaging from film technology just yet. ... just my thoughts from the hinterlands of the small market Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax and Minolta on Life Support
Bruce, Thanks for pointing that out. It is always interesting to hear other points of view. Gives you more perspective to sort things out. Bruce Dayton Thursday, June 13, 2002, 10:07:47 AM, you wrote: ban An excerpt from, THE REVOLUTION IN PHOTO MARKETING, PART ban II - The Darker View, from: ban http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0206/editorial.htm ban Pentax and Minolta are on life support. Olympus, ban although strong now is relying on other manufacturers to ban produce their products and has little of their own ban technology or engineering in their cameras, although it ban is rumored that they will have a new camera with ban dedicated lenses on the market in the fall. ban - ban This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, ban go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to ban visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
re:APS Film
Well, it seems that the general thought is that digital will eventually win out over APS and maybe so. However, there will always be those who will never use digital because of the expense technology. The camera cost is only a small part of ownership... you need a computer to download them to and then a color printer to print them off on. There are those that are technologically financially challenged enough to never go to digital. There will always (at least in my life time) a need for film... 35mm or APS, whatever. 110 was supposed to die years ago and it is still here. I realize that there were many more 110 cameras sold than APS but they are getting old and no new ones on the market. I suspect that APS film will be available (maybe not widely) for a number of years after the last APS camera has been discontinued, which may not happen for 3-4 years. In any case, I expect to get may years of service from my ELPH which I find is a great camera for traveling and snapshots due to its size. By the time APS is gone, I am sure my ELPH will be ready for retirement also. At that point I will have to struggle along with one of my 4 MX's, 2 KX's (black), 5 Olympus Trip 35's, Pentax 110, Pentax Auto 110 or SF-1. Cheers, John * Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax and Minolta on Life Support
- Original Message - From: gfen Subject: Re: Pentax and Minolta on Life Support I, personally, like the last paragraph: Many of these retailers see a gradual move in the future back to film. According to one, most people don't know what the hell they are doing with those digital images. A lot of people got into it as a fad. Dick Bagdassarian, says, I have 3 children. The first child has the most pictures. The last child has the least. 20 years later you look at the photos and see the value of them. You don't want to forget the big picture. Enthusiasm with digital can be very rewarding, but it may not have the information you will want years from now. You can't go back. We had much the same thing happen in the late 80s with consumer video cameras. For a couple of years all we sold was camcorders, and it murdered film and processing. After six months a year, the camcorder customer was back to film. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Just in time for Father's Day
I just got back into darkroom work after about 15 years. I just read through the Darkroom sections of Upton and Upton's Photography. This along with a Kodak darkroom guide, and I've had no trouble. I forgot how much fun it was. I was thinking I was bound for the digitial Darkroom (almost gave away my D2 XL Chassis) when a neighbor offered to let me use his darkroom. I find it s much more rewarding than the little bit a digital mucking about I did. As always, YMMV :-) Good luck. -Jeff --- Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The secretary of the treasury approved the purchase of a Jobo Duolab processor ($214.00 including shipping), which should arrive Friday or Saturday. This morning, when I brought up the subject of an enlarger in the not too distant future, I didn't get shot down. Until now, there wasn't room in the house to set up a full darkroom, but with the Duolab I can probably find enough room to set up an enlarger and the Duolab. Can anyone suggest reading material for darkroom procedures. It's been nearly 40 years since I last used one, and then only for BW for the college yearbook. Also, any suggestions on a fairly compact enlarger capable of handling 35mm through 6X6 negatives would be appreciated. Bill KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Agfa Portrait 160
I had them processed at a local lab in Toronto, called Custom Colour Imaging. They use Kodak Professional paper. Jeff - Original Message - From: Robert Woerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:58 PM Subject: Re: Agfa Portrait 160 Hi, Can you tell us how you had the film processed/printed? Fuji, Kodak, Agfa, Konica, etc. ? I have some of the Agfa Portrait 160 to try out and am curious as to how well it prints on non-Agfa paper. I have read that the 160 is at its best printed using Agfa. My lab uses Kodak Royal and Fuji Crystal Archive papers. They seem to handle the Vista films really well. I don't know of any labs in my area which use Agfa processing/paper. Another question for the group: What process/paper does Mystic Color Lab use? I know they market Agfa films with the Mystics label. Thanks, Robert in Greenville SC From: Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Agfa Portrait 160 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:41:04 -0400 I just shot 3 rolls of Agfa Portrait 160 (120 format) under varied lighting condition, using fill and full flash. I found the film quite pleasing for skin tones. I liked it better than NPS for skintones, but not as much for scenics. I've had similar problems with my digicam using the Pocket Bouncer on my flash. Since then I've gone to the white card aproach. Jeff - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:37 AM Subject: Agfa Portrait 160 I just got back some rolls shot at my daughter's 8th grade graduation. All in all, I shot 1 roll of Kodak Portra 800, 2 rolls of Agfa Portrait 160, 1 roll of Fuji NHG II and one 220 roll of Konica Portrait 160. I shot this variety due to changing light conditions and wanting to test the Agfa and Konica portrait films. I was somewhat surprised to see that the Agfa portrait roll shot indoors with flash showed major shine on all faces. No blown out highlights, more like shiny makeup that really showed up. One shot had a guy in it that had no makeup on and he still had some shiny areas. I have been shooting lots of Kodak Portra and some Fuji portrait films and have not really seen this. The outdoor fillflash Agfa looked fine, just this indoor roll where flash was the main light looked bad. Has anyone else heard of or experienced this with Agfa Portrait before? I still have a couple of rolls to test with. Bruce - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: anyone knows about this lens?
HUDERER Bernd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How much did you get for the 50/1.2A and how was the state ? I sold it on EBay last week for $375 BIN to an American living in Japan. I described it, basically, as EX++, a fine specimen. He was not disappointed. Paul Franklin Stregevsky - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax and Minolta on Life Support
I really don't think film will disappear anytime soon. The interesting question is if there will be room in the smaller market for Pentax. In addition, smaller sales provides less RD money, so it becomes hard to keep up. I'm not sure how diversified Pentax is, although I do know they make medical imaging equipment, binoculars etc. I image they could provide lenses for other companies as well. They also have certain patents which they licence without actually producing the technology. Does anyone know where you can look at any financial information about these companies? Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 463-8873 FAX: (540) 463-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/13/02 01:45PM On Thu, 13 Jun 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An excerpt from, THE REVOLUTION IN PHOTO MARKETING, PART II - The Darker View, from: http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0206/editorial.htm I, personally, like the last paragraph: Many of these retailers see a gradual move in the future back to film. According to one, most people don't know what the hell they are doing with those digital images. A lot of people got into it as a fad. Dick Bagdassarian, says, I have 3 children. The first child has the most pictures. The last child has the least. 20 years later you look at the photos and see the value of them. You don't want to forget the big picture. Enthusiasm with digital can be very rewarding, but it may not have the information you will want years from now. You can't go back. -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: re:APS Film
- Original Message - From: Bowman, John Subject: re:APS Film My local camera shop sez that Agfa and Konica are going to stop producing APS film very soon, and all the majors are going to stop making cameras for the format within a couple of years. If that happens, I can't see Fuji staying in the game, they only do high volume fast turnaround products. I suspect that Kodak will be the only player within a few years, and they will get out of the format within 5 years. The APS target market is young (median age range 15 to 30) people who don't need the higher quality available from larger film formats. This group tends to share their pictures electronically as email attachments or web based photo albums, and for the most part already have computers, or access to them, and are savvy about the ways of the things. They don't really care about (or even want) paper photographs, and often the print is just a temporary storage medium until they get the image to a scanner. The TV ads I have seen recently for digital cameras seem targeted at the same group of people as APS is targeted to. If they can get digital cameras at a reasonable price point with a good feature set, and that is coming very quickly, APS will go away very quickly. For myself, I look forward to the demise of that hateful little format. It really is plagued by a lot of problems. If APS was a computer OS, it would be called Windows. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: what is this lens like Enna Munchen 24mm Pentax K Mount Lens
Oops--I forgot you're looking at a 24. I was still thinking of the 35/3.5K thread from this morning. I wrote: If you're going to settle for a quasi K mount, get an M42 Carl Zeiss Jena 35/2.4 Auto (49mm filter), arguably the finest 35 ever made. Paul Franklin Stregevsky - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Last day in the UK
Hi, I've enjoyed being over here and have had lots of fun getting out about at the weekends. The English weather generally lived up to its reputation: I don't think I ever saw the sun in London. Or in sunny Brighton. I expect our summer will start as soon as you're out of our airspace. That's the great thing about New Zealanders. You always take the weather with you. (Sorry). Many thanks go to Peter in Brighton and Cotty for their kind hospitality, and to Bob W for trying to make me spend all my money on Leica gear :) It was great to meet you guys even though it did mean having my photo taken a couple of times. It was a pleasure to meet you. Those old Leicas of mine took some pretty good photos of you, including some at the demo in Trafalgar Sq. Someday I'll get a scanner and reveal the full horror to an expectant world. I hope you're journey back isn't too horrific. The antipodean midwinter will probably be a nice change from our glorious summer. Not. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: APS Film
John, I think that most of us are saying that APS will be supplanted by digital - not film in general. The small number of APS cameras (percentage wise) is one of the key issues. The other is that the most obvious advantage to APS is the size of body/lens combinations. Digital can be competitive here because of the small sensor size. It will slowly die out much like 110. Film will become much more expensive and your choices of places to process/print it will diminish. How quick is the real question. I suspect quite a few years. I am seeing big retailers (Target, Walmart, etc) starting to drop APS - both film and cameras are now on clearance shelves (good buys for the moment), but when those are gone, prices on film will start to rise and as the PS bodies break, they will not be replaced by new APS bodies. The options will be 35mm or digital. Digital will be able to provide at least the smaller size. Bruce Thursday, June 13, 2002, 11:04:08 AM, you wrote: BJ Well, it seems that the general thought is that digital will eventually win BJ out over APS and maybe so. However, there will always be those who will BJ never use digital because of the expense technology. The camera cost is BJ only a small part of ownership... you need a computer to download them to BJ and then a color printer to print them off on. There are those that are BJ technologically financially challenged enough to never go to digital. BJ There will always (at least in my life time) a need for film... 35mm or APS, BJ whatever. 110 was supposed to die years ago and it is still here. I realize BJ that there were many more 110 cameras sold than APS but they are getting old BJ and no new ones on the market. I suspect that APS film will be available BJ (maybe not widely) for a number of years after the last APS camera has been BJ discontinued, which may not happen for 3-4 years. BJ In any case, I expect to get may years of service from my ELPH which I find BJ is a great camera for traveling and snapshots due to its size. By the time BJ APS is gone, I am sure my ELPH will be ready for retirement also. At that BJ point I will have to struggle along with one of my 4 MX's, 2 KX's (black), 5 BJ Olympus Trip 35's, Pentax 110, Pentax Auto 110 or SF-1. BJ Cheers, BJ John BJ * BJ Halifax, Nova Scotia BJ Canada BJ BJ - BJ This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, BJ go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to BJ visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Pentax and past stars
I was lucky enough to find 12 Beatles Videos on sale at $1.95 CDN each at Rogers Video. I have just been watching Vol.3 of the 8 Volume Anthology, and low and behold - Paul was talking about his impressions of Miami, and said something like We were just like tourists in Florida, going around shooting with our Pentaxes. Also one of the US gigs, they had a mock-up of an SLR on stage with them, words BEATAX, where PENTAX would be. James HELP: Vol. 4 video is missing out of the box, so I would love to have a copy if anyone knows where I can find it. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Agfa Portrait 160
I used Portrait 160, along with Fuji NPS 160, for a model shoot a couple of years ago, and was very disappointed with the results. The NPS pictures looked much nicer. IIRC, the Agfa prints looked grainy and dull. I actually preferred Agfa HDC 100 or 200 over Portrait 160 Pat White - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: re:APS Film
William Robb wrote: The APS target market is young (median age range 15 to 30) Funny, around here I've *never* seen anyone under 35 using an APS camera and most users are probably in their 40s. (Although I suspect the 15-30 age range was the original target for APS.) -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Pentax and Minolta on Life Support
Steven Desjardins wrote: Does anyone know where you can look at any financial information about these companies? Hi Steven, Answer to your question is, Sure -- I know a couple places! All publicly traded companies in the US (don't know if this includes ~all~ of the major camera manufacturers) file regular reports with the SEC, and these are available on-line. (Can't remember the SEC website address -- sorry.) IIRC, these are called 10-K reports. One can obtain a considerable amount of information on such companies this way. Another place to gather information is from a company's Dunn and Bradstreet report, but I'm sure you'd need some sort of subscription to get these anywhere on-line. I believe you might be able to get a copy of such a report from a business school library or law library, perhaps at some nominal cost. Any reference librarian should know what you mean if you ask for one of these. By the way, nice to see a yet another fellow chemist on the list. I see from the WLU website that you're currently chair of the chemistry department? Glad to see that some folks are still able to succeed at academic chemistry, given today's bleak funding environment. Never was able to secure an academic post myself (analytical, experimental physical, and anything else that my CV would fit). Lots of competition. But my longer-than-expected postdoc at SUNY Buffalo was one of the most rewarding and enjoyable jobs I've ever had, in spite of the scholarly squalor. ;-) Take care, Bill Peifer Rochester, NY - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax and Minolta on Life Support
Steven, If you have a good public or college library near you try their Reference Dept. Good libraries often have a financial section with up-to-date reports in the Reference Dept. You can't check the material out, but you should be able to find what you need quite easily. And don't forget to ask the Reference Librarian for help. They're loaded with useful information! Alexander Grigolia - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Agfa Portrait 160
Pat, And I thought you were strictly a landscape shooter. Jeff. - Original Message - From: Pat White [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 3:18 PM Subject: Re: Agfa Portrait 160 I used Portrait 160, along with Fuji NPS 160, for a model shoot a couple of years ago, and was very disappointed with the results. The NPS pictures looked much nicer. IIRC, the Agfa prints looked grainy and dull. I actually preferred Agfa HDC 100 or 200 over Portrait 160 Pat White - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Just bought a 35mm 2.8 - any good?
I just plopped down 40 UK quid to a man I've never met for a 35mm f/2.8 - having done zero research first. Not my usual style, but needs must. A present for the S.O. as she expressed a great interest in David Mann's 35mm f/3.5 and with all the chat recently about how their owners are optically retentive ;-) I thought I'd look out for a 2.8. I saw an f/2 go on eBay the other day for sixty-something pounds, so I figure 40 is okay for the 2.8?? Don't tell me it's a dog, please! Comments welcome. Cheers, Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax-A 20mm f2.8...ohhh, ahhh
I love wides. Can't wait to shoot with this bad boy. And you'll really love this one. Below 28mm, the A 20/2.8 is my most frequently used lens. I take the bulky and rather dear 15/3.5 rectilinear and 16/2.8 Fisheye lenses out only if I know ahead of time that I have a need for them. Then, I sold off my A 24/2.8 (which was just gathering dust - well, its lens case was gathering dust) some time ago. But the 20/2.8 goes with me often, and it gets used often. A lovely lens. Enjoy your new w-i-d-e - g. Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax and past stars
Hi, James, Yeah, I've seen several shots of the Beatles around '63 or '64, with Pentaxes around their necks - the ones I've seen looked like a pre-Spotmatic non-metered model. I've also seen shots of various English Royals from about that time period with Pentaxes in hand. Back in the days when Pentax and N were duking it out for slr supremacy. Sigh... g regards, frank James Adams wrote: I was lucky enough to find 12 Beatles Videos on sale at $1.95 CDN each at Rogers Video. I have just been watching Vol.3 of the 8 Volume Anthology, and low and behold - Paul was talking about his impressions of Miami, and said something like We were just like tourists in Florida, going around shooting with our Pentaxes. Also one of the US gigs, they had a mock-up of an SLR on stage with them, words BEATAX, where PENTAX would be. James HELP: Vol. 4 video is missing out of the box, so I would love to have a copy if anyone knows where I can find it. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
New to the world of Pentax and Photogrophy!!
Hi all!! Today in the mail I received my first Pentax SLR camera. It's a KX series. And a few days ago I received a SMC 50/1.7 pentax series A lens. When I look through the eye piece I can see specks. It's not the lens because they are still there with out the lens. How should I go about cleaning this? Thanks a bunch Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New to the world of Pentax and Photogrophy!!
Hi, Mike, First, welcome to the list. You'll learn a lot about Pentaxes and photography here. The KX is a favourite among many here; I'm sure you'll enjoy yours. You're among good company with that body (not me though!). Anyway, about the specks - I wouldn't worry about them. Unless they are so numerous that it makes looking throught the viewfinder difficult, they aren't a problem. They won't affect the photos you take at all. In fact, cleaning them may make things worse - smudging up focusing screens and the like. There is a way to clean them (I'm sure someone else here will tell you), but like I said, unless they're ~real~ bad, leave 'em. regards, frank Mike P wrote: Hi all!! Today in the mail I received my first Pentax SLR camera. It's a KX series. And a few days ago I received a SMC 50/1.7 pentax series A lens. When I look through the eye piece I can see specks. It's not the lens because they are still there with out the lens. How should I go about cleaning this? Thanks a bunch Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New to the world of Pentax and Photogrophy!!
- Original Message - From: Mike P Subject: New to the world of Pentax and Photogrophy!! Hi all!! Today in the mail I received my first Pentax SLR camera. It's a KX series. And a few days ago I received a SMC 50/1.7 pentax series A lens. When I look through the eye piece I can see specks. It's not the lens because they are still there with out the lens. How should I go about cleaning this? The focusing screen is dirty. If it's not too annoying, leave it alone, as you can do more harm than good trying to clean them. There is the possibility that the specs ar on top of the screen, where you can't get at them. However, if you are brave Here is how I clean screens: 1) Gently brush the screen with a small camel hair (this part is important, camel hair won't scratch the rather delicate screen) brush. 2) For the very brave: Use low pressure compressed air. Make sure it is well dried air so you don't blow condensate onto the screen. You can blow the shutter right out of the camera this way, so be careful. 3) Reread my second sentence on the subject. A few specks on the screen are best left alone. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Just bought a 35mm 2.8 - any good?
if you mean M35/2.8 -- it's a good lens. from boz's site, -- Yoshihiko Takinami's Resolution Results Average Center Resolution 77 lpm Average Corner Resolution 63 lpm Best Aperture f/8 --- so, no, it's definitely not a dog! i used to own one, and was perfectly happy with it. but at some point it got sticky diafragm (for no apparent reason), so i sold it for $50 (almost as much as i paid for it), and got A35/2 later (for lots more $). UK40 is a good price, KEH lists them for over $100. now, 35/2 for sixty-something pounds -- that's quite a deal! best, mishka From: Cotty Subject: Just bought a 35mm 2.8 - any good? Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 13:51:05 -0700 -- I just plopped down 40 UK quid to a man I've never met for a 35mm f/2.8 - having done zero research first. Not my usual style, but needs must. A present for the S.O. as she expressed a great interest in David Mann's 35mm f/3.5 and with all the chat recently about how their owners are optically retentive ;-) I thought I'd look out for a 2.8. I saw an f/2 go on eBay the other day for sixty-something pounds, so I figure 40 is okay for the 2.8?? Don't tell me it's a dog, please! Comments welcome. Cheers, Cotty Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New to the world of Pentax and Photogrophy!!
Either live with it or spend $20-$50 to have the screen cleaned. It won't affect your photos since it's probably dust on the focusing screen. Bill - Original Message - From: Mike P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 5:22 PM Subject: New to the world of Pentax and Photogrophy!! Hi all!! Today in the mail I received my first Pentax SLR camera. It's a KX series. And a few days ago I received a SMC 50/1.7 pentax series A lens. When I look through the eye piece I can see specks. It's not the lens because they are still there with out the lens. How should I go about cleaning this? Thanks a bunch Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Pentax and Minolta on Life Support
aol me too! /aol ...never had guts to do a postdoc though. a decent apartment here costs about what the postdoc salary (after the taxes) is. and, of course, the the scholarly squalor was a factor too... oh well, who am i to complain now :) mishka From: Peifer, William [OCDUS] Subject: RE: Pentax and Minolta on Life Support Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 12:46:15 -0700 By the way, nice to see a yet another fellow chemist on the list. Lots of competition. But my longer-than-expected postdoc at SUNY Buffalo was one of the most rewarding and enjoyable jobs I've ever had, in spite of the scholarly squalor. ;-) Take care, Bill Peifer Rochester, NY Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
28mm/3.5 shift lens: worth getting?
Hello everyone, I have the possibility to get a mint K 28/3.5 shift lens for app. US$ 550. Is the lens worth spending that amount of money? Can anyone please share their personal experience in regard to this lens? Thanks, Eric - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 100mm 2.8 Macro vs. 100mm 2.8
I sometimes find the photodo ratings a bit dubious. As in the chart they have the F and FA with quite a large difference in peformance, although they are optically identical. I had the FA100/2.8 macro and now have the Tamron 90/2.5. I would disagree with the photodo rating that the FA resolves less detail. Also the FA has better colour rendition and flatness of field. Regards, Paul - Original Message - From: Mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 9:51 AM Subject: Re: 100mm 2.8 Macro vs. 100mm 2.8 alright, lust doesn't have to be reasonable. let me rephrase it: the only limitation i have run into with series 1 macro was film, not lens. provia 100f, scanned at 4000dpi. apart from myself, according to photodo.com the MTF ratings are Grade: 4.2 35mm/MF Tamron SP 90/2,5 macro Grade: 3.9 35mm/AF Tokina AT-X AF 100/2,8 Macro Grade: 4.6 35mm/MF Tokina AT-X 90/2,5 macro Grade: 4.2 35mm/AF Sigma AF 90/2,8 Makro discontinued Grade: 4.1 35mm/AF Sigma AF 105/2,8 EX Macro Grade: 3.9 35mm/AF Pentax SMC-FA Makro 100/2,8 Grade: 4.3 35mm/AF Pentax SMC-F 100/2,8 macro Grade: 4 35mm/MF Vivitar 105/2,5 Macro Series 1 so, yes, pentax has a lens that is a tad better than vivitar. and still behind tokina. whether it warrants 4 times the money, is, of course, a very personal thing. mishka From: William Robb Subject: Re: 100mm 2.8 Macro vs. 100mm 2.8 From: Mishka Subject: Re: 100mm 2.8 Macro vs. 100mm 2.8 unless you are a collector, or have tons of spare cash and time, i see no reason whatsoever to lust for macro a*100/2.8 Obviously, you have never used one..g William Robb Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Just bought a 35mm 2.8 - any good?
Hi Cotty ... I've several Pentax 35mm lenses: S-M-C 2.0; S-M-C 3.5; K 3.5; K 2.0; and the M 2.8 The M 2.8 is my least favorite, with the 3.5 versions being the favorites. Compared to the S-M-C and the K lenses, the M 2.8 seems a little soft - and that's the only way I can describe it. I find that fine detail is rendered better with the K 3.5 than with the M 2.8, even stopped down. The K 2.0 is a jewel as well, especially if you want the speed, but it's a little big for my taste, being the size of some short tele lenses. However, if you want the speed in that focal length, it's a good choice. Stopped down a bit it appears to be a fine performer, although the 3.5 seem somewhat better wrt fine detail and contrast. But, if you're not making large, wet darkroom prints, and are sticking primarily to digital printing, or are keeping the size of your wet prints to 5x7 or below, the M 2.8 should be acceptable. IMO, it's hard to beat the K35/3.5 when it comes to manual focus 35mm lenses. Cotty wrote: I just plopped down 40 UK quid to a man I've never met for a 35mm f/2.8 - having done zero research first. Not my usual style, but needs must. A present for the S.O. as she expressed a great interest in David Mann's 35mm f/3.5 and with all the chat recently about how their owners are optically retentive ;-) I thought I'd look out for a 2.8. I saw an f/2 go on eBay the other day for sixty-something pounds, so I figure 40 is okay for the 2.8?? Don't tell me it's a dog, please! --- Sheldon Belinkoff CREATURE'S COMFORT mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 28mm/3.5 shift lens: worth getting?
- Original Message - From: E. Kragtwijk Subject: 28mm/3.5 shift lens: worth getting? Hello everyone, I have the possibility to get a mint K 28/3.5 shift lens for app. US$ 550. Is the lens worth spending that amount of money? Can anyone please share their personal experience in regard to this lens? Ive played around with that lens on a couple of occassions. Personally, I think if you want a shift lens, find a used view camera and a lens around 135mm. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 28mm/3.5 shift lens: worth getting?
One thing you should keep in mind is that the distortion caused by viewing things at an angle through a regular lens can be fixed easily through digital manipulation. For an example using very cheap software, see my page at http://ca.geocities.com/spirope/perspective.htm Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 100mm 2.8 Macro vs. 100mm 2.8
Paul Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sometimes find the photodo ratings a bit dubious. As in the chart they have the F and FA with quite a large difference in peformance, although they are optically identical. Ditto for the F50/1.4 and the FA50/1.4 Photodo is completely bogus if you ask me. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 100mm 2.8 Macro vs. 100mm 2.8 long
In a message dated 6/13/2002 8:56:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: other lenses that are just as good and many that are -- dare I say it -- even better. Yes! Now it can be told! Zeiss, Kern Switar, Angenieux, Schneider and others are every bit as good if not better than Pentax. Dare I suggest the same is true of C and N? -Brendan MacRae - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: 28mm/3.5 shift lens: worth getting?
Interesting - looking at both Fred and Mishka's corrected images on my screen, they seem over-corrected! Does anyone else get this effect? John Coyle Brisbane, Australia On Friday, June 14, 2002 12:32 PM, Fred [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Eric, I have some photos at: http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/k28shift/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
