Re: Complaints
From: T Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 18:11:19 -0500 At this point I think we would be better off with a political/religious thread it would be more interesting. Not on this list, please. But this is a typical PDML thread. It is called analyzing the nonexistent camera. Once the camera is on the shelves no one has much to say about it. No, when the camera is on the shelves - half of the PDML members will complain about it. It's a tradition around here. :-) Best wishes, Roland _ Hitta rätt på nätet med MSN Sök http://search.msn.se/
Re: Complaints
Herb Chong a écrit: that isn't the point. it is off all the time. Herb So you can just remove the batterie ! Michel
Re: Is this Pentax?
Levente -Levi- Littvay schrieb: http://levi.kign.org/pentax/ This is a mirror lens without aperture control. I am not sure though, so I need a second oppinion. Is this a Pentax K mount? thx Hello, I also agree that this is Nikon mount. The is lens is shure a Sigma 600mm/8.0 - I once had one. The letters on it and the filter-drawer make it obvious. Greetinx, Thomas
Re: DSLR - No meter needed
Ramesh writes: IMHO as uncertainty reduces things become less exciting; so photography may not be so much exciting. This may vary from individual to individual and also whether you are pro or ameture. I have not used any digital camera. I would like to hear from other digital user's. On the contrary - the excitement levels are not only maintained, but enhanced by the knowledge that results are going to be seen very quickly, and mistakes are rectified immediately. You have to experience it to feel the buzz :-) John writes: One advantage of a DSLR is the instant review. Just take the shot, read the highlights/histogram, and adjust accordingly. It's not perfect, mainly because the image review screen is so small. But a histogram, and a feature to show blown highlights, plus the ability to zoom in, makes for some pretty useful instant feedback. My son was giving a presentation at cub scouts about his rat, er hamster. (yes, called Basil...) He wanted some shots of the furry little thing and I obliged. I love bounced light, loathe direct, so I positioned the head towards the ceiling and used manual (250th at about f/5.6, 400 ISO). We had nobody to hold a small reflector to bounce off, and coming of the ceiling was proving not enough, judging by the histogram (a graphical representation of the light levels in the captured image). In this case, I went direct (poor Basil!) and stopped down a bit (lots of DOF required as he flitted to and fro). Test shots revealed this was going to be fine. Focussing was manual - rats, er hamsters move very quickly. Out of 50 shots, about half were reasonably sharp. Of those, a dozen were pin sharp on the eyes, we chose 6 to optimise, and 3 to print. Shooting to printing - - one hour, thankyouverymuchgoodnight. Cotty _ Oh swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/ _
Re: LX Top Lug
Hello Peter It may be anchored to the Grip A or B in the style of LX2000 grip. Thus supporting the camera in landscape format even when the grip is fitted. However, I have not fitted one - Cotty, Rob Studdert, Brendan McRae, and Anton all have, as far as I know. The crucial point is to anchor it well! Kind regards Peter
Re: OT: Power Thread - Battery Packs
Dave. Awesome - in a word. Not fantastically cheap, especially over here. The Turbo recycles a Metz 45 in one second at full whack:) For sustained fire nothing beats the Turbo, however for short bursts you might find several sets of NiMH with appropriate battery holders (AP1 for 283) a more reasonable alternative. I am not certain if you can use NiMH in the Metz 45 holder - someone from Hasselblad (the UK importer) once did tell me why it was not recommended to use nicads therein - of course now those brain cells have gone Tom Van Veen is probably the best man to answer this. Kind regards Peter
RE: 67 lens - screw mount adapter?
yes it exists, but WHY??? JCO -Original Message- From: Ryan K. Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 1:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 67 lens - screw mount adapter? I know there's an adapter to go from 67 - K-mount, but is there one that goes to screw mount? Google didn't turn up any. TIA, Ryan
Re: Is this Pentax?
In a message dated 26/03/03 04:04:07 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 25 Mar 2003 19:17:52 -0600, you wrote: http://levi.kign.org/pentax/ This is a mirror lens without aperture control. I am not sure though, so I need a second oppinion. Is this a Pentax K mount? thx Looks Nikon to me. -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com John is right. It's Nikon - the groove cut into the back of the mount makes it an AIS lens - activates spot metering with F4 and hi-speed program enable with so-equipped bodies. Cheers Peter
Re: OT: Crumpler bags
I was filming a peace demo in Oxford recently and happened across a photographer from the Oxford Times. He was carrying a Crumpler bag and I was impressed with the styling and looks. I have one of the small Crumpler bags which holds an Olympus C5050 with the 'body armour' fitted. In addition it also has a front pocket which holds cards etc. I am very pleased with it and purchased it online from:- http://www.morrisphoto.co.uk This is an Oxford based photo shop which might explain why the photographer from the Oxford Times was using a Crumpler bag. Harry -- Harold Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Crumpler bags
or now maybe a Crumpler. But...a bag called 'McBain's Love Child' ?? What in blazes is going on there? Too many blooming tinny's ! If you think the names of their bags are mad you want to try visiting the Australian website!! http://www.crumpler.com.au/public/home.ehtml I don't know what they are on but I wish I had some. :-) My sort of company!! Harry -- Harold Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 67 lens - screw mount adapter?
Spooky coincidence?? I just bought one on eBay last night. I figured it would work just as well as the k-mount one and it was about 40% cheaper than any k-mount version I had seen. Paul Ewins Melbourne, Australia - Original Message - From: Ryan K. Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 5:01 PM Subject: 67 lens - screw mount adapter? I know there's an adapter to go from 67 - K-mount, but is there one that goes to screw mount? Google didn't turn up any. TIA, Ryan
Re: DSLR - No meter needed
This is only true if you're a camera operator/technician; not a photographer. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I shoot both film and digital (E-20p) I notice that the latter makes the photographer lazy. No need to think a lot, because one can always discard a bad photo and shoot another one (and so on) until it's good.
Re: DSLR - No meter needed
In a recent discussion with a photographer using a D60, he said that he was inclined to experiment more with digital since he knew what he was getting. It was putting a lot of the old fun back into shooting, and he was a wedding photographer. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the contrary - the excitement levels are not only maintained, but enhanced by the knowledge that results are going to be seen very quickly, and mistakes are rectified immediately. You have to experience it to feel the buzz :-)
Re: Lens Hood Suggestions
Yes, the HN-3 is recommended for the 35mm lens, however I have used it on K30/2.8, the FA28-70/4 AL and the Vivitar 24/2.8 without any vignetting. The advantage of the HN-3 over the HN-1 is that it is a deeper hood and so affords better flare and physical protection. Again, I haven't noticed any vignetting, but I do not regularly filters (with exception of K30 and polarizer sometimes) and so you could run into problems if you regularly use filters with the hood. Nikon also has the HN-2 which is between the HN-3 and HN-1 in size. That might be a good compromise if you suspect you might run into problems with your Pentax 24 (I have no experience with) or if you regularly use filters. Thanks, William in Utah. - Original Message - From: Scott Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:22 PM Subject: Re: Lens Hood Suggestions Thanks for the advice, do you know how the HN-3 differs from the HN-1, which is the hood recommended for Nikon's 24mm lens (also a 52mm thread) -Scott On Sat, 2003-03-22 at 20:51, William Johnson wrote: I have found that Nikon's HN-3 hood works well with both my FA28-70/4 (52mm) and a Vivitar 24/2.8 (52mm). It is a metal screw in hood usually available on ebay or most well stocked Nikon dealers. I use a Takumar 105/2.8 100/4 metal screw in hood for my FA80-200/4.7-5.6 (49mm). I have found that I can also use this hood on a 50mm lens with no vignetting if I don't use a filter. Hope that helps, William in Utah. - Original Message - From: Scott Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 7:22 PM Subject: Lens Hood Suggestions After recently acquiring a deep, solid hood with my SMC 135/2.5 (Thanks Fred) I've decided to get hood for the rest of my lenses. I already have a flexible hood for my 50mm, but I like the protection offered by the solid hood more. Metal hood are preferable, but solid plastic hoods are ok too. I have the following lenses: 28-70 f/4 52mm filter 80-200 f/4.7-5.6 49mm filter 24mm f/2.8 52mm filter 50mm f/1.7 49mm filter 135mm f/2.5 58mm filter (already have an ok hood); Thanks in advance for your suggesetions -Scott
RE: Hand Meters
Steve, I would recommend an ambient meter that has both reflected and incident capabilities. It would serve you more than a spot meter. Some ambient meters also have optional spot attachments, so you may want to consider that. As stated previously I have two Sekonic meters. The L-398M Studio Deluxe II is the first one I purchased and the one I have learned a lot on. It does not need batteries and is ruggedly built. Some may mention the hassle of using the metal slide when in the bright outdoors, and I have a bit of wariness when using them, but to date I have not had the tab break off. Though I did misplace the slide once and had to back track my steps to find it - I think it was in Ft. Worth when that happened. I have the L-358 flash meter. Purchased because I need to get smarter on flash useage. It needs batteries to run. It is easier to use and no real accessories to lose. Though bigger than the L-398M, I carry it all the time. It allows me to meter in lower light situations than the L-398M. The display is backlit for easier reading. It has the ease of switching between two different ISOs - which I often lately find myself carrying. Etc. The L-358 has a spot optional accessory, if I recall correctly. So if ever I wanted to I could have one meter for all possible readings. Just my late two cents, Cesar Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: Steve Desjardins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:40 PM -- -- What would folks recommend in a handmeter, spot or ambient? -- -- -- Steven Desjardins -- Department of Chemistry -- Washington and Lee University -- Lexington, VA 24450 -- (540) 458-8873 -- FAX: (540) 458-8878 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
RE: Metering
Chiming in late, only been able to lurk recently, I find myself carrying my hand meter almost all the time now. Whenever I can I measure with it and compare it with the camera's meter reading - if I am carrying one with such a luxury. This works great if the lighting stays constant and I can remember the camera's reading and note any change in lighting. I started out taking reflected readings from a grey card. But once I began to understand lighting a little better I felt that getting a reading of the light hitting the scene, it seemed easier to use an incident meter for better response rather than using a grey card - and the rules in its use - or trying to choose an 18% (or is it 13%) area and metering from it. I do spot meter on occasion and find that the MZ-S and the 645n have excellent matrix metering. I am more wary when using center-weighted though. I shoot mostly color slides. This has worked for me for the most part - except for variances between film types. I began with and still have a Sekonic L-398M Studio Deluxe II meter purchased used, and a Sekonic L-358 flash meter that I bought new when contemplating using multiple flashes for some interior shooting. Cesar Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: Steve Desjardins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 11:37 AM -- -- A subject near and dear to my heart as I always worry about -- this. This -- thread actually began in the Why Pentax thread, but let's give it an -- honest name. My tendency with the MZ-S is to use the spot -- meter most of -- the time, point the circle at whatever I think should be -- closest to 18% -- gray in the final result, lock that exposure, recompose and -- shoot. I do -- this all the time, and any comments by the more -- knowledgeable would be -- appreciated. Please remember that I shoot color print and -- that my only -- direct control (w/o scanning) is at the negative stage. -- -- -- Steven Desjardins -- Department of Chemistry -- Washington and Lee University -- Lexington, VA 24450 -- (540) 458-8873 -- FAX: (540) 458-8878 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
RE: Crumpler bags
Cannot comment on the camera bags. I did find and purchase a couple of their lens pouches. They work fine, except the loop for placing onto a strap is just a little small. I found them at some shop in Baltimore during one of my meanderings. Not much help, but what the hey, Cesar Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 6:03 PM -- -- I was filming a peace demo in Oxford recently and happened across a -- photographer from the Oxford Times. He was carrying a -- Crumpler bag and I -- was impressed with the styling and looks. Didn't have long -- to chat, and -- certainly didn't get time to ask about the Crumpler - any -- listers have -- any experience of these things? Australian aren't they? -- -- Actually I was thinking of replacing my long-in-tooth LL -- Bean computer -- carryall soon, and was looking at either a Spire USA bag, or -- now maybe a -- Crumpler. But...a bag called 'McBain's Love Child' ?? What -- in blazes is -- going on there? Too many blooming tinny's ! -- -- Cheers, -- -- Cotty -- --
RE: Power Thread - Battery Packs
Dave, I use both the Battery 1 for my AF280T and two Battery 2s for my AF400T. On the occasions when I have a big event to shoot - wedding, ceremony, banquets - it gives me great peace of mind. The quicker recharging times are fantastic and help when doing weddings or taking two posed shots of a group. I have had one of the batteries recelled and it is as good as new. I like the clips on them as I place them on my belt and they are pretty much unobtrusive. I always carry batteries just in case, but have yet to resort to them. I have had only one problem with them. I had to resolder one end of the wires - going to the AF400T. I just keep aware of how I press the wire or how much stress I am placing on it. A minor inconvenience considering what it provides. Cesar Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: David Chang-Sang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 6:23 PM -- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: OT: Power Thread - Battery Packs -- -- -- Hi folks... -- -- In my quest for maintaining constant power to my numerous -- flashes (Metz and -- Vivitar) I'm curious to find out if any of you out there are -- using any -- Quantum Battery Packs. -- -- If you are, how do you like them? Which type are you using? -- -- As the spring and wedding season approach I know that -- sometimes NiMH may not -- be enough. -- -- -- Thanks a ton, -- Dave -- --
Re: OT: Crumpler bags
If you like that you will like the Mini Cooper site ( http://www.miniusa.com/crm/mini_entrance.jsp ). Me, I think cute gets in the way of the information. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Harold Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 6:28 AM Subject: Re: OT: Crumpler bags or now maybe a Crumpler. But...a bag called 'McBain's Love Child' ?? What in blazes is going on there? Too many blooming tinny's ! If you think the names of their bags are mad you want to try visiting the Australian website!! http://www.crumpler.com.au/public/home.ehtml I don't know what they are on but I wish I had some. :-) My sort of company!! Harry -- Harold Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: OK, how do some people send HTML links to PDML, and I can't??
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only help that AOL tech support could offer me was to suggest I use the AOL Anywhere option (in other words, go to AOL as a web site while in another browser) It's the AOL on the Web option: http://webmail.aol.com/ Should work with any browser, version 3 or higher. If that doesn't work, just sign up for one of the free web-based email services and subscribe that email address to the PDML (also prevents PDML mail from overwhelming your mail email account). My preference is www.mail.com -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Pentax Zoom Help Requested-Again
That $357 may be BH's price for it new, but it's an older lens and it can be found often used in excellent condition for more like $160 or so (check KEH). The other 28-105's are the rebadged Tamron version (same f/4-f/5.6 range, but usually labeled IF for internal focusing, and no power zoom) and the new, compact f/3.2-4.5 Pentax lens. The IF f/4-5.6 one can still be found new for a bit under $200, and the new f/3.2-4.5 lens can be found for about $200. I've never used the 24-90, so I can't help you there. Joe Hello. I am going to purchase one of the following Pentax Zooms: -FA 28-105 Power Zoom-$357.00 -FA 24-90 Zoom-$399.95 Can anyone recommend one lens over the other with regards to the following criteria(I do not consider the difference in price a factor): -optical quality -construction -dependability I know Pentax makes other 28-105's, but it is too confusing trying to figure out which is which other than the Power Zoom(maybe I'm just dense). Thank you. Francis T. Knapik
RE: 67 lens - screw mount adapter?
why would you want to use the huge, oversized 67 lenses on a 35mm body? ( I know I own a bunch of them). If your going to put up with the bulk and weight and carry the 67 lenses, might as well bring a 67 body along too. JCO -Original Message- From: Ryan K. Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 1:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 67 lens - screw mount adapter? Correction- I meant to say the EOS version is over $300. I'm trying to get 67 lenses on my 1Ds. J. C. O'Connell wrote: yes it exists, but WHY??? JCO -Original Message- From: Ryan K. Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 1:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 67 lens - screw mount adapter? I know there's an adapter to go from 67 - K-mount, but is there one that goes to screw mount? Google didn't turn up any. TIA, Ryan
Re: OT: some Digital SLR comments
- Original Message - From: Juey Chong Ong Subject: Re: OT: some Digital SLR comments On Tuesday, March 25, 2003, at 09:54 AM, Greene wrote: ___BR iWhich/I of the EOS cameras has an on-off switch? I don't remember, but I think it was one of those EOS Rebels . Isn't there a Canon list to answer questions like this? William Robb
Re: How are these Tokina lenses?
on 26.03.03 17:28, Joseph Tainter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently there have been three of these in autofocus: 28-70 f2.6-2.8. Highly praised on this list for sharpness. Now discontinued. 28-80 f2.8. I have it. Very sharp, high-quality images. Prone to flare shooting into the sun. 28-70 f2.8. This one is new. From the review in Pop Photo, it is not as sharp as the other two. It is also less expensive. You get what you pay for. Still, it's not a bad lens. That's funny - but the last one (28-70/2.8 SV) - won much better opinions in German's Foto Magazine tests than older 28-70/2.6-2.8 (in fact, it was even sligthly better than Pentax FA* 28-70 and Canon L 28-70). But I tend not to believe in tests. I think all three options are very good, althought the newest is said to be of slightly worse build quality (more plastic) - but thanks to this, it is about 100 g lesser in weight too. Regards Sylwek
Re: 67 lens - screw mount adapter?
I want to try the 1Ds as a digital back for the 67.I can go 67-M42-EOS a lot cheaper (by several hundred $) than 67-EOS.This would be in addition to the 67 body. Right now I haul two 67 bodies, the 600, 200, 55-100 and an MZ-S around my neck- so it's not that big a deal to swap either a 67 body or the MZ-S for the 1Ds. I imagine I'm going to be disappointed by the lenses, hence I don't want to invest a lot (but I'm hoping). -Ryan J. C. O'Connell wrote: why would you want to use the huge, oversized 67 lenses on a 35mm body? ( I know I own a bunch of them). If your going to put up with the bulk and weight and carry the 67 lenses, might as well bring a 67 body along too. JCO -Original Message- From: Ryan K. Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 1:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 67 lens - screw mount adapter? Correction- I meant to say the EOS version is over $300. I'm trying to get 67 lenses on my 1Ds. J. C. O'Connell wrote: yes it exists, but WHY??? JCO -Original Message- From: Ryan K. Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 1:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 67 lens - screw mount adapter? I know there's an adapter to go from 67 - K-mount, but is there one that goes to screw mount? Google didn't turn up any. TIA, Ryan
Re: 18-35 FAJ
The UK list price for the 18-35 FAJ lens is just GBP199 inc VAT. Hallo, that seems not much, as normaly 1 GBP = 1 Euro for photo equitment. How is the price for the 4/20-35, for the 4/28-70, or 3.2-4.5/28-105 in GB. So, we can compare how the price will be in our contry. When will the 18-35 available? regards Rüdiger
RE: DSLR - No meter needed
Somewhere I have a shot taken during a professional football game that shows a sideline photographer using an incident meter to get a reading. So, not everyone relies on the camera and the abundance of shots to get things right. It's not exposure that bothers me, or at least a three shot bracket is often enough. But with a living moving, subject (like the hamster) it's the focus that I distrust the most. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DSLR - No meter needed
-Original Message- From: Steve Desjardins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Somewhere I have a shot taken during a professional football game that shows a sideline photographer using an incident meter to get a reading. So, not everyone relies on the camera and the abundance of shots to get things right. It's not exposure that bothers me, or at least a three shot bracket is often enough. But with a living moving, subject (like the hamster) it's the focus that I distrust the most. Seems to work ok, but of course AF varies with the camera body just like 35mm: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019message=4695154 http://www.digisportspix.com/ I guess with a hamster it would be tougher since they're so small... tv
Re: 67 lens - screw mount adapter?
I thought there wasn't much difference once you get to 300mm or so. I thought the K300/4 and the 6x7 300/4 were the same lens except for the mount. Now considering the price of a 300/2.8 the adapter is really cheap. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 1:34 PM Subject: RE: 67 lens - screw mount adapter? why would you want to use the huge, oversized 67 lenses on a 35mm body? ( I know I own a bunch of them). If your going to put up with the bulk and weight and carry the 67 lenses, might as well bring a 67 body along too. JCO -Original Message- From: Ryan K. Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 1:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 67 lens - screw mount adapter? Correction- I meant to say the EOS version is over $300. I'm trying to get 67 lenses on my 1Ds. J. C. O'Connell wrote: yes it exists, but WHY??? JCO -Original Message- From: Ryan K. Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 1:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 67 lens - screw mount adapter? I know there's an adapter to go from 67 - K-mount, but is there one that goes to screw mount? Google didn't turn up any. TIA, Ryan
Re: DSLR - No meter needed
tom wrote: http://www.digisportspix.com/ Horrible bokeh on the first photo (detailed on http://www.digisportspix.com/bigtenwomenday1.html ) cheers, caveman
Re: Pentax Stereo Adapter
Hallo, I have both the adapter and the viewer. They are together ca. 100 Euro in the german ebay. It is very interessting and I'm realy hooked. I even bougth a Rollei twin projektor to look 3D slides at a big screen with polfilter glasses. I realy can recommend it. Rüdiger I may have a chance to buy one of these things real cheap, and even though I'll never use it, I may just pick it up as another addition to my useless crap collection (like I don't already have enough of those! g) Anyone know what these things are worth? This one's in the original box, and appears to have all the parts (including the viewer). I'm guessing that the idea is to shoot slides, and view the slides in the viewer? thanks, frank -- Hell is others -Jean Paul Sartre
The Optio S - - in my hot little hands.
Well, after having my arm twisted by my Pentax rep (what a guy), I decided to spend a little money and order the Optio S. My local store had not ordered any and since all the ones alloted to him were already doled out and spoken for by other dealers this was the only way to get one - other than mail-order [:-(]. It arrived from one of his stores the night before last. Yes, we know it was displayed in an Altoids tin. Yes we know it does not weigh much. Still I was amazed at its size. Wow! I think the packing material in the shipping box weighed as much as the camera! And the finish on the metal case is fantastic. I really like the grip on the back (indentation for the thumb). The only part that is flimsy is the Battery/Card Cover on the bottom. Though the lack of a cover would not prevent the use of the camera. It does not hold either in place. A good thing is that it has 11MB of internal memory. I don't have a card yet and I can still take shots. The Shutter Release Button takes a little getting used to, definitely different than the other ps cameras I have tried. The only quibble I have so far is the OK button in the middle of the Four-way Controller. I have not gotten consistent in selecting it and saving changes. I have only taken about 35 shots with it so far. I like the idea of having a ps with an SMC lens on it ;-) The manual states that it should be possible to take 160 shots with the LCD monitor on and the flash fired for half the shots. Now I need to get a laptop. I have the company's but it runs Windows NT that does not support USB. I am hoping to get one by this weekend so I can really go out and play with the camera. I have not played with the manual focus much. And I do miss the Tv and Av modes, but I have the CoolPix for that. I have had three people here at work already comment favorably on its size. They are considering getting one. H, maybe I should get a commission? Being a 3.2 MPixel camera, it fits the bill nicely for a ps digital. With its size there is no reason not to have it on my person at all times. Nothing new to report, just more idle chatter, César Panama City, Florida
Re: Pentax Zoom Help Requested-Again
From: Frank Knapik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 13:04:37 -0500 Hello. I am going to purchase one of the following Pentax Zooms: -FA 28-105 Power Zoom-$357.00 -FA 24-90 Zoom-$399.95 Can anyone recommend one lens over the other with regards to the following criteria(I do not consider the difference in price a factor): -optical quality -construction -dependability I know Pentax makes other 28-105's, but it is too confusing trying to figure out which is which other than the Power Zoom(maybe I'm just dense). I don't think that it's so hard. FA 28-105 f/4-5.6 = the oldest, with power zoom. FA 28-105 f/4-5.6 (IF) = re-badged Tamron lens. OK for the price. FA 28-105 f/3.2-4.5 AL (IF) = new and much better than the f/4-5.6 (IF). I have it myself and I like it a lot. Quite similar in character to the 24-90 I believe, but perhaps not as sharp. But then, you can buy almost two 28-105 f/3.2-4.5 for the same price as one 24-90... When it comes to build quality, all lenses has a plastic outside and lots of plastic inside. I'm happy with my 28-105, it feels solid and well put together. But I know that some doesn't like lightweight lenses and plastic (I have never found them to be inferior, neither in optical performance and long-term durability, to all metal lenses). Best wishes, Roland _ Hitta rätt på nätet med MSN Sök http://search.msn.se/
Re: 18-35 FAJ
Hi, some prices from Jessops (http//www.jessops.com): (UK Pounds) FAJ 28-80 f/3.5-5.6 : 159.95 FA 28-90 f/3.5-5.6 : 159.95 FA 28 f/2.8 : 199.90 FA 28-105 f/3.2-4.5 AL (IF) : 229.90 FA 24-90 f/3.5-4.5 : 449.90 I couldn't find the FA 20-35 f/4 AL at Jessops. 199.90 for the FAJ 18-35 sounds very low... Best wishes, Roland From: Rüdiger Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 18-35 FAJ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 23:04:57 +0100 The UK list price for the 18-35 FAJ lens is just GBP199 inc VAT. Hallo, that seems not much, as normaly 1 GBP = 1 Euro for photo equitment. How is the price for the 4/20-35, for the 4/28-70, or 3.2-4.5/28-105 in GB. So, we can compare how the price will be in our contry. When will the 18-35 available? regards Rüdiger _ Hitta rätt köpare på MSN Köp Sälj http://www.msn.se/koposalj
Re: The Optio S - - in my hot little hands.
On Wednesday 26 March 2003 14:55, Cesar Matamoros II wrote: a lot of stuff about his new optio s Cesar, Two of my co-workers bought the Optio S the day it arrived in the local camera shop (Ace Photo for those of you in NoVa). It is a tiny camera. I thought my Optio 330 was small but compared to the Optio S it is a brick! I haven't been able to wrestle one away from them so no report yet. They both bought 256MB SD cards with the cameras which i believe is good for about 150 shots at best resolution and quality. By the way, I did get a commision for the sales: A free roll of Kodak E100G slide film (ok so it's a factory free sample) If I wasn't saving for the *ist-D, I'd trade my Optio 330 for the Optio S. More features in a smaller package. Christian
Re: The Optio S - - in my hot little hands.
Now I need to get a laptop. I have the company's but it runs Windows NT that does not support USB. I am hoping to get one by this weekend so I can really go out and play with the camera. I'm not sure I understand it correctly - you're buying a laptop to be able to use a digital ps? ;-) Lukasz
Re: OT: some Digital SLR comments
Yes, but the interface is too complicated to figure out. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't there a Canon list to answer questions like this? William Robb
Re: Kodak High Definition 400 speed film?
I just got back from Hawaii - flew from San Francisco to Maui. I didn't take anything faster than 400 speed and just let it go through the x-ray with my camera - this is the carry on scanners. I had no ill effects for the two scans that occurred. Hand checking could be a bit iffy and time consuming. Bruce Wednesday, March 26, 2003, 10:23:29 AM, you wrote: BR I would treat the film like any other 400 film. I haven't flown since BR security has gotten tighter. I would prefer a hand inspection. Just BR don't put it in checked luggage. I don't worry about keeping print film BR refrigerated unless it's going to be weeks at high temps. BR BR BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few more questions about Kodak Portra UC400. 1. Is it safe to send thru the x-ray machines at airports? I have 2 trips planned over the next few months (Hawaii Orlando), and I'm giving serious thought to using this film exclusively. I might order a few packs! 2. Based on these locations, is keeping the film refrigerated an issue?
Re: The Optio S - - in my hot little hands.
Cesar Matamoros II wrote: [...] I have not played with the manual focus much. And I do miss the Tv and Av modes, but I have the CoolPix for that. Pentax' own specs say there is a separate cable furnished for AV. But, you're holding it, so I yield the floor... Anyhow, good luck. I'm glad you got one! keith whaley I have had three people here at work already comment favorably on its size. They are considering getting one. H, maybe I should get a commission? Being a 3.2 MPixel camera, it fits the bill nicely for a ps digital. With its size there is no reason not to have it on my person at all times. Nothing new to report, just more idle chatter, César Panama City, Florida
Re: The Optio S - - in my hot little hands.
The logic is impeccable, Lukasz... Would that *I* could afford to do so! Would that a 17 Titanium PowerBook was attainable, but Steve Jobs keeps the price high on purpose! I'd have to sell my house first... keith whaley Lukasz Kacperczyk wrote: Now I need to get a laptop. I have the company's but it runs Windows NT that does not support USB. I am hoping to get one by this weekend so I can really go out and play with the camera. I'm not sure I understand it correctly - you're buying a laptop to be able to use a digital ps? ;-) Lukasz
Re: OT: some Digital SLR comments
--- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Juey Chong Ong Subject: Re: OT: some Digital SLR comments On Tuesday, March 25, 2003, at 09:54 AM, Greene wrote: ___BR iWhich/I of the EOS cameras has an on-off switch? I don't remember, but I think it was one of those EOS Rebels . Isn't there a Canon list to answer questions like this? William Robb __ Yes, but my innocuous question was regarding a question in an on-topic post, not to carry-on a conversation. Surely to merely mention the name of other brands can't be as much of a list violation as ~your~ continuing the conversation by asking a rhetorical question. Or does the curmudgeon status of BR and his too frequent mention of Nikon and other products give him special dispensation on the list? I have yet to see you or anyone post such as question as you directed at me (above) to BR. Double standards? = EdGreene @ YAHOO! DSL!
Re: Pentax Stereo Adapter
Well, at the risk of repeating myself, these ones I'm looking at are currently around $10Cdn (around $6US) at an auction at a Goodwill Store (they sell used stuff - mostly clothing - and put the money to charitable uses). I've since seen them at BH for over $300US, you say you saw them on eBay for 100 Euros, and I think Chris Brogden says that he's sold used ones for around $100 Cdn. For the price, I think I ~must~ buy them. I was originally thinking that they'd be more of a toy or a collector's thing, but hell, I might as well try them out; sounds like they could be a lot of fun - something new and different! Thanks to everyone who responded. I'll let y'all know on the weekend if I managed to snag them... cheers, frank Rüdiger Neumann wrote: Hallo, I have both the adapter and the viewer. They are together ca. 100 Euro in the german ebay. It is very interessting and I'm realy hooked. I even bougth a Rollei twin projektor to look 3D slides at a big screen with polfilter glasses. I realy can recommend it. Rüdiger -- Hell is others -Jean Paul Sartre
Re: Pentax Stereo Adapter
Stereo is a lot of fun. I used my Pentax stereo device until I discovered the Stereo Realist camera. I got the Realist viewer and some RBT mounts for Realist slides so I can mount the chips and do some minor adjustments. I belong to the Cascade Stereo Club out here in Portland, OR. It's a lot more fun to be around folks who have an interest in stereo. Most use Realist cameras. A few have some very expensive SLR stereo cameras ($3000). Have fun. Jim A. From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: http://www.urbancaravan.com/ Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 17:06:24 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Stereo Adapter Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 17:18:58 -0500 Well, at the risk of repeating myself, these ones I'm looking at are currently around $10Cdn (around $6US) at an auction at a Goodwill Store (they sell used stuff - mostly clothing - and put the money to charitable uses). I've since seen them at BH for over $300US, you say you saw them on eBay for 100 Euros, and I think Chris Brogden says that he's sold used ones for around $100 Cdn. For the price, I think I ~must~ buy them. I was originally thinking that they'd be more of a toy or a collector's thing, but hell, I might as well try them out; sounds like they could be a lot of fun - something new and different! Thanks to everyone who responded. I'll let y'all know on the weekend if I managed to snag them... cheers, frank Rüdiger Neumann wrote: Hallo, I have both the adapter and the viewer. They are together ca. 100 Euro in the german ebay. It is very interessting and I'm realy hooked. I even bougth a Rollei twin projektor to look 3D slides at a big screen with polfilter glasses. I realy can recommend it. Rüdiger -- Hell is others -Jean Paul Sartre
Re: DSLR - No meter needed
Yeah.When I really need a shot I use the E-10 and take 50 shots (that's the biblical 50), One of them will come out, and I erase the rest. It's a way of working that's just not possible with a film (not polaroid) camera. I can see why some pro's really like digital. OTOH, I don't have to work this way often, so film is often a more enjoyable medium. More enjoyable becuase I can just have a certain fatalism about each shot, knowing that the impact of a missed shot is little more than annoyance. Interesting. In fact, all my camera originals are saved to CD, except for the very few that I erase while shooting. That may be only about 5 percent. The optimised shots are also saved in a parallel CD system as Photoshop files. This way, I can always go back to the originals, just like having negs around. I tried holding the CDs up to the light, but I'm derned if I can see anything Cotty _ Oh swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/ _
Re: OT: Crumpler bags
I have one of the small Crumpler bags which holds an Olympus C5050 with the 'body armour' fitted. In addition it also has a front pocket which holds cards etc. I am very pleased with it and purchased it online from:- http://www.morrisphoto.co.uk This is an Oxford based photo shop which might explain why the photographer from the Oxford Times was using a Crumpler bag. Harry Thanks Harry. That makes a lot of sense. I didn't realise Morris's did Crumpler. I have been in there a few times, I got a LowePro Micro trekker there once. I shall pop in and have a squint :-) Cheers, Cotty _ Oh swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/ _
Re: OT: some Digital SLR comments
- Original Message - From: Greene Subject: Re: OT: some Digital SLR comments Isn't there a Canon list to answer questions like this? Yes, but my innocuous question was regarding a question in an on-topic post, not to carry-on a conversation. Surely to merely mention the name of other brands can't be as much of a list violation as ~your~ continuing the conversation by asking a rhetorical question. Or does the curmudgeon status of BR and his too frequent mention of Nikon and other products give him special dispensation on the list? I have yet to see you or anyone post such as question as you directed at me (above) to BR. Double standards? Gosh Ed, I was just trying to help by perhaps getting an answer that would point you in the direction of where you could go to get an answer. No need to get all pissy about it. If Bruce ever asks a question about how to tune a Nikon camera on or off, I promise I will ask if there is a Nikon list that he can find an answer from. William Robb
Re: Kodak High Definition 400 speed film?
Thanks Bruce for the info. I'm curious, what other films did you shoot, and how much did you bring? Maybe some Velvia? Thanks again, Steve --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got back from Hawaii - flew from San Francisco to Maui. I didn't take anything faster than 400 speed and just let it go through the x-ray with my camera - this is the carry on scanners. I had no ill effects for the two scans that occurred. Hand checking could be a bit iffy and time consuming. Bruce Wednesday, March 26, 2003, 10:23:29 AM, you wrote: BR I would treat the film like any other 400 film. I haven't flown since BR security has gotten tighter. I would prefer a hand inspection. Just BR don't put it in checked luggage. I don't worry about keeping print film BR refrigerated unless it's going to be weeks at high temps. BR BR BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few more questions about Kodak Portra UC400. 1. Is it safe to send thru the x-ray machines at airports? I have 2 trips planned over the next few months (Hawaii Orlando), and I'm giving serious thought to using this film exclusively. I might order a few packs! 2. Based on these locations, is keeping the film refrigerated an issue? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com
Re: The Optio S - - in my hot little hands.
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Cesar Matamoros II wrote: It arrived from one of his stores the night before last. Yes, we know it I haven't seen any discussion about these points: what I'd be most interested in knowing about is whether the camera has shutter lag like the others and whether the focus is locked when the shutter is pressed half-way down. I think most ps cameras take some time, after you press the shutter, to extend the lens and take the picture. This is a problem for me. Tonghang.
Re: OT: some Digital SLR comments
--- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Greene Subject: Re: OT: some Digital SLR comments Isn't there a Canon list to answer questions like this? Yes, but my innocuous question was regarding a question in an on-topic post, not to carry-on a conversation. Surely to merely mention the name of other brands can't be as much of a list violation as ~your~ continuing the conversation by asking a rhetorical question. Or does the curmudgeon status of BR and his too frequent mention of Nikon and other products give him special dispensation on the list? I have yet to see you or anyone post such as question as you directed at me (above) to BR. Double standards? Gosh Ed, I was just trying to help by perhaps getting an answer that would point you in the direction of where you could go to get an answer. No need to get all pissy about it. If Bruce ever asks a question about how to tune a Nikon camera on or off, I promise I will ask if there is a Nikon list that he can find an answer from. William Robb My bad. = EdGreene @ YAHOO! DSL!
Re: Is this Pentax?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://levi.kign.org/pentax/ I don't think this is a Pentax mount. The grove for the locking pin of the camera is in the wrong spot. Regards, Bob S.
Re: OT: some Digital SLR comments
Yeah! How do you turn a Nikon on? I rub it and rub it all over with the special velvet cloth, and it still just sits there. I must be losing my touch. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Bruce ever asks a question about how to tune a Nikon camera on or off, I promise I will ask if there is a Nikon list that he can find an answer from.
Re: OT: some Digital SLR comments
- Original Message - From: Bruce Rubenstein Subject: Re: OT: some Digital SLR comments Yeah! How do you turn a Nikon on? I rub it and rub it all over with the special velvet cloth, and it still just sits there. I must be losing my touch. Isn't there a Nikon list that can answer questions like this? William Robb
Re: Hand Meters
An incident meter reports one variable - the light itself. A reflect light meter reports on two variables - the intensity of the light and the degree of reflectivity of the subject it is bouncing off. You camera meter assumes that the light is bouncing off of an 18% gray subject. If the subject is darker than that the meter will over expose, if lighter the meter will under expose. So let's say you see a white rock and a black rock sitting side by side. The light falling on them is the same, so one camera setting will result in the correct exposure for both. But you camera's meter will be fooled by the tonal differences - the light reflecting off the white object will result in a recommended setting that will result in under-exposure. The black object reflect back less light, and tricks your camera into recommending an exposure that will be over exposed. An icident meter will measure the light directly - no reflectivity factor. Put it over the white object and then again over the black object, and the meter reading will be the same - because it is reading the light directly. Or put a gray card into the scene - the gray card is the exact reflectivity that the camera expects - and meter off that. the obvious drawback is that you have to be near the subject to use an incidnet meter. So with a telephoto, where you may be poking into a shadow here and direct sun there, it's not practical. But if the subject is still you can almost always get a good incident reading - either by going to it and reading or, for larger subjects under consistent light, just taking a reading where you are. If I'm shooting on a beach or a field and the light is pretty consistent, a hundred yards or so won't make a different in the light, and I can meter where I am for what I'm shooting. Not so in a city or the woods, though. - MCC At 06:59 PM 3/24/2003 -0500, you wrote: OK, I'll ask the obvious question and expose my true ignorance. Why is the incident light a better reading? After all, it's reflected light that going to hit the film, no matter what is hitting the subject. It's also the reflected light that hits my eye. Always wanted to ask this question . . . - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - -
Re: DSLR - No meter needed
You are right, but I think it should be emphasized that reading the histogram is the key to success in this. Relying on the output form the LCD can be a recipe for disaster - it really looks different in different light and with different brightness settings. - MCC At 06:10 PM 3/25/2003 -0700, you wrote: One advantage of a DSLR is the instant review. Just take the shot, read the highlights/histogram, and adjust accordingly. It's not perfect, mainly because the image review screen is so small. But a histogram, and a feature to show blown highlights, plus the ability to zoom in, makes for some pretty useful instant feedback. It's good enough that most don't really mind the camera's inability to meter with non-CPU lenses. One shot gives more information than a reading from an incident or spot meter. -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - -
35mm SUCKS! Try 4X5
I've been shooting 4X5 (mostly BW) heavily for the last few months or so and have been very satisfied with the results. Today I went back and printed a few of my very best quality 35mm film scans and they look like crap after getting so used to 4X5. No surprise I guess. Anyway, I suggest any of you yearning for better quality images give 4X5 a shot. The lenses and bodies ( monorails) arent very expensive used and give an incredible bang for the buck. I spent about $2500 for two cameras, ( a press and a monorail view) and 6 lenses used (great shape) on ebay. Really good lenses too.( Schneider Fujinon). As a comparison, I spent over $4000 on my P67 with 8 lenses and of course the quality is lower with P67 than with 4X5. Another nice thing about 4X5 is that it isnt going to be obsoleted by digital soon. My 4X5 scans are ~90 Mpixels @2400 dpi. Large prints (13X19 on my Epson) really give a You are There result. No darkroom / bulky enlarger is needed with todays scanners either.. Sure, there are certain types of photography you cant do with a 4X5, but for the ones you can like portraits, landscape, and architecture, the quality trumps small and medium formats by a wide margin. Lastly, it's alot of FUN! Try it , you'll like it. P.S. no TTL meters, no AF, no winders, no zooms, no AE, No batteries, But thankfully, you dont need them. There is one downside, NO SMC Pentax large format lenses! JCO J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com My Business references Websites: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/jco/
Re: Hand Meters
That's interesting and explains something I was puzzling over earlier today. I'm taking a class in studio lighting and usually use both the Minolta meter that is in the school's studio and my own Polaris. Under flahes the two meters are very close - the Polaris is a little higher, but just 1/10th to 1/5th of a stop or so - but today I was working with Tungstun lights and the Polaris reported reading that were consistently about 3/4ths of a stop off from the Minolta. I even put the two side by side and took readings. Thanks for the explanation! - MCC At 07:42 PM 3/24/2003 -0500, you wrote: FWIW: From a photographer that I worked with, that shoots slide film for magazines, Minolta meters track the sensitivity of film better than Sekonic meters when the color temp drops below 5,500K (daylight). In other words, he gets more accurate meter readings with his Minolta with tungsten lighting. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As long as the photo cell's colour sensitivity is close to the colour of the light being measured, all is well. - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - -