Re: Complaints

2003-03-26 Thread Roland Mabo
From: T Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 18:11:19 -0500
At this point I think we would be better off with a political/religious
thread it would be more interesting.
Not on this list, please.

But this is a typical PDML thread. It
is called analyzing the nonexistent camera. Once the camera is on the
shelves no one has much to say about it.
No, when the camera is on the shelves - half of the PDML members will 
complain about it. It's a tradition around here. :-)

Best wishes,
Roland
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Re: Complaints

2003-03-26 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Herb Chong a écrit:
that isn't the point. it is off all the time.

Herb
So you can just remove the batterie !

Michel




Re: Is this Pentax?

2003-03-26 Thread Th. Stach
Levente -Levi- Littvay schrieb:
 
 http://levi.kign.org/pentax/
 
 This is a mirror lens without aperture control.  I am not sure though,
 so I need a second oppinion.  Is this a Pentax K mount?
 
 thx

Hello,

I also agree that this is Nikon mount.
The is lens is shure a Sigma 600mm/8.0 - I once had one.
The letters on it and the filter-drawer make it obvious.

Greetinx,

Thomas



Re: DSLR - No meter needed

2003-03-26 Thread Cotty
Ramesh writes:

IMHO as uncertainty reduces things become less exciting; so photography
may not be so much exciting. 
This may vary from individual to individual and also whether you are pro
or ameture. I have not used any digital 
camera. I would like to hear from other digital user's.

On the contrary - the excitement levels are not only maintained, but
enhanced by the knowledge that results are going to be seen very quickly,
and mistakes are rectified immediately. You have to experience it to feel
the buzz :-)

John writes:

One advantage of a DSLR is the instant review. Just take the shot,
read the highlights/histogram, and adjust accordingly.

It's not perfect, mainly because the image review screen is so small.
But a histogram, and a feature to show blown highlights, plus the
ability to zoom in, makes for some pretty useful instant feedback.

My son was giving a presentation at cub scouts about his rat, er hamster.
(yes, called Basil...) He wanted some shots of the furry little thing and
I obliged. I love bounced light, loathe direct, so I positioned the head
towards the ceiling and used manual (250th at about f/5.6, 400 ISO). We
had nobody to hold a small reflector to bounce off, and coming of the
ceiling was proving not enough, judging by the histogram (a graphical
representation of the light levels in the captured image). In this case,
I went direct (poor Basil!) and stopped down a bit (lots of DOF required
as he flitted to and fro). Test shots revealed this was going to be fine.

Focussing was manual - rats, er hamsters move very quickly. Out of 50
shots, about half were reasonably sharp. Of those, a dozen were pin sharp
on the eyes, we chose 6 to optimise, and 3 to print.

Shooting to printing - - one hour, thankyouverymuchgoodnight.

Cotty

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Oh swipe me! He paints with light!
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Re: LX Top Lug

2003-03-26 Thread Camdir
Hello Peter

It may be anchored to the Grip A or B in the style of LX2000 grip. Thus 
supporting the camera in landscape format even when the grip is fitted. 
However, I have not fitted one - Cotty, Rob Studdert, Brendan McRae, and 
Anton all have, as far as I know. The crucial point is to anchor it well!

Kind regards

Peter



Re: OT: Power Thread - Battery Packs

2003-03-26 Thread Camdir
Dave. Awesome - in a word.

Not fantastically cheap, especially over here. The Turbo recycles a Metz 45 
in one second at full whack:)

For sustained fire nothing beats the Turbo, however for short bursts you 
might find several sets of NiMH with appropriate battery holders (AP1 for 
283) a more reasonable alternative. I am not certain if you can use NiMH in 
the Metz 45 holder - someone from Hasselblad (the UK importer) once did tell 
me why it was not recommended to use nicads therein - of course now those 
brain cells have gone

Tom Van Veen is probably the best man to answer this.

Kind regards

Peter



RE: 67 lens - screw mount adapter?

2003-03-26 Thread J. C. O'Connell
yes it exists, but WHY???
JCO

 -Original Message-
 From: Ryan K. Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 1:01 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: 67 lens - screw mount adapter?
 
 
 I know there's an adapter to go from 67 - K-mount, but is there one 
 that goes to screw mount?  Google didn't turn up any.
 
 TIA,
 
 Ryan
 



Re: Is this Pentax?

2003-03-26 Thread Camdir
In a message dated 26/03/03 04:04:07 GMT Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On 25 Mar 2003 19:17:52 -0600, you wrote:
 
 http://levi.kign.org/pentax/
 
 This is a mirror lens without aperture control.  I am not sure though,
 so I need a second oppinion.  Is this a Pentax K mount?
 
 thx
 
 Looks Nikon to me.
 
 --
 John Mustarde
 www.photolin.com
  
John is right. It's Nikon - the groove cut into the back of the mount makes 
it an AIS lens - activates spot metering with F4 and hi-speed program enable 
with so-equipped bodies.

Cheers

Peter



Re: OT: Crumpler bags

2003-03-26 Thread Harold Owen
 I was filming a peace demo in Oxford recently and happened across a
 photographer from the Oxford Times. He was carrying a Crumpler bag and I
 was impressed with the styling and looks. 

I have one of the small Crumpler bags which holds an Olympus C5050 with
the 'body armour' fitted. In addition it  also has a front pocket which holds
cards etc.

I am very pleased with it and purchased it online from:-

http://www.morrisphoto.co.uk

This is an Oxford based photo shop which might explain why the
photographer from the Oxford Times was using a Crumpler bag.

Harry

-- 
Harold Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: OT: Crumpler bags

2003-03-26 Thread Harold Owen
 or now maybe a
 Crumpler. But...a bag called 'McBain's Love Child' ?? What in blazes is
 going on there? Too many blooming tinny's !

If you think the names of their bags are mad you want to try visiting
the Australian website!!

http://www.crumpler.com.au/public/home.ehtml

I don't know what they are on but I wish I had some. :-)

My sort of company!!

Harry

-- 
Harold Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: 67 lens - screw mount adapter?

2003-03-26 Thread Paul Ewins
Spooky coincidence?? I just bought one on eBay last night. I figured it
would work just as well as the k-mount one and it was about 40% cheaper than
any k-mount version I had seen.

Paul Ewins
Melbourne, Australia


- Original Message -
From: Ryan K. Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 5:01 PM
Subject: 67 lens - screw mount adapter?


 I know there's an adapter to go from 67 - K-mount, but is there one
 that goes to screw mount?  Google didn't turn up any.

 TIA,

 Ryan




Re: DSLR - No meter needed

2003-03-26 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
This is only true if you're a camera operator/technician; not a 
photographer.

BR

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

As I shoot both film and digital (E-20p) I notice that the latter makes the photographer lazy. No need to think a lot, because one can always discard a bad photo and shoot another one (and so on) until it's good. 





Re: DSLR - No meter needed

2003-03-26 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
In a recent discussion with a photographer using a D60, he said that he 
was inclined to experiment more with digital since he knew what he was 
getting. It was putting a lot of the old fun back into shooting, and he 
was a wedding photographer.

BR

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On the contrary - the excitement levels are not only maintained, but
enhanced by the knowledge that results are going to be seen very quickly,
and mistakes are rectified immediately. You have to experience it to feel
the buzz :-)
 





Re: Lens Hood Suggestions

2003-03-26 Thread William Johnson
Yes, the HN-3 is recommended for the 35mm lens, however I have used it on
K30/2.8, the FA28-70/4 AL and the Vivitar 24/2.8 without any vignetting.
The advantage of the HN-3 over the HN-1 is that it is a deeper hood and so
affords better flare and physical protection. Again, I haven't noticed any
vignetting, but I do not regularly filters (with exception of K30 and
polarizer sometimes) and so you could run into problems if you regularly use
filters with the hood.  Nikon also has the HN-2 which is between the HN-3
and HN-1 in size.  That might be a good compromise if you suspect you might
run into problems with your Pentax 24 (I have no experience with) or if you
regularly use filters.

Thanks,

William in Utah.

- Original Message -
From: Scott Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: Lens Hood Suggestions


 Thanks for the advice,

 do you know how the HN-3 differs from the HN-1, which is the hood
 recommended for Nikon's 24mm lens (also a 52mm thread)

 -Scott

 On Sat, 2003-03-22 at 20:51, William Johnson wrote:
  I have found that Nikon's HN-3 hood works well with both my FA28-70/4
(52mm)
  and a Vivitar 24/2.8 (52mm).  It is a metal screw in hood usually
available
  on ebay or most well stocked Nikon dealers.  I use a Takumar 105/2.8
100/4
  metal screw in hood for my FA80-200/4.7-5.6 (49mm). I have found
that I
  can also use this hood on a 50mm lens with no vignetting if I don't use
a
  filter.
 
  Hope that helps,
 
  William in Utah.
  - Original Message -
  From: Scott Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 7:22 PM
  Subject: Lens Hood Suggestions
 
 
   After recently acquiring a deep, solid hood with my SMC 135/2.5
(Thanks
   Fred) I've decided to get hood for the rest of my lenses.  I already
   have a flexible hood for my 50mm, but I like the protection offered by
   the solid hood more.  Metal hood are preferable, but solid plastic
hoods
   are ok too.  I have the following lenses:
  
   28-70 f/4 52mm filter
   80-200 f/4.7-5.6 49mm filter
   24mm f/2.8 52mm filter
   50mm f/1.7 49mm filter
   135mm f/2.5 58mm filter (already have an ok hood);
  
   Thanks in advance for your suggesetions
   -Scott
  
  
  
  
 






RE: Hand Meters

2003-03-26 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
Steve,

I would recommend an ambient meter that has both reflected and incident
capabilities.  It would serve you more than a spot meter.  Some ambient
meters also have optional spot attachments, so you may want to consider
that.

As stated previously I have two Sekonic meters.  The L-398M Studio Deluxe II
is the first one I purchased and the one I have learned a lot on.  It does
not need batteries and is ruggedly built.  Some may mention the hassle of
using the metal slide when in the bright outdoors, and I have a bit of
wariness when using them, but to date I have not had the tab break off.
Though I did misplace the slide once and had to back track my steps to find
it - I think it was in Ft. Worth when that happened.

I have the L-358 flash meter.  Purchased because I need to get smarter on
flash useage.  It needs batteries to run.  It is easier to use and no real
accessories to lose.  Though bigger than the L-398M, I carry it all the
time.  It allows me to meter in lower light situations than the L-398M.  The
display is backlit for easier reading.  It has the ease of switching between
two different ISOs - which I often lately find myself carrying.  Etc.

The L-358 has a spot optional accessory, if I recall correctly.  So if ever
I wanted to I could have one meter for all possible readings.

Just my late two cents,

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

-- -Original Message-
-- From: Steve Desjardins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:40 PM
--
-- What would folks recommend in a handmeter, spot  or ambient?
--
--
-- Steven Desjardins
-- Department of Chemistry
-- Washington and Lee University
-- Lexington, VA 24450
-- (540) 458-8873
-- FAX: (540) 458-8878
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--



RE: Metering

2003-03-26 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
Chiming in late, only been able to lurk recently,

I find myself carrying my hand meter almost all the time now.  Whenever I
can I measure with it and compare it with the camera's meter reading - if I
am carrying one with such a luxury.  This works great if the lighting stays
constant and I can remember the camera's reading and note any change in
lighting.

I started out taking reflected readings from a grey card.  But once I began
to understand lighting a little better I felt that getting a reading of the
light hitting the scene, it seemed easier to use an incident meter for
better response rather than using a grey card - and the rules in its use -
or trying to choose an 18% (or is it 13%) area and metering from it.

I do spot meter on occasion and find that the MZ-S and the 645n have
excellent matrix metering.  I am more wary when using center-weighted
though.

I shoot mostly color slides.  This has worked for me for the most part -
except for variances between film types.

I began with and still have a Sekonic L-398M Studio Deluxe II meter
purchased used, and a Sekonic L-358 flash meter that I bought new when
contemplating using multiple flashes for some interior shooting.

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

-- -Original Message-
-- From: Steve Desjardins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 11:37 AM
--
-- A subject near and dear to my heart as I always worry about
-- this.  This
-- thread actually began in the Why Pentax thread, but let's give it an
-- honest name.  My tendency with the MZ-S is to use the spot
-- meter most of
-- the time, point the circle at whatever I think should be
-- closest to 18%
-- gray in the final result, lock that exposure, recompose and
-- shoot.  I do
-- this all the time, and any comments by the more
-- knowledgeable would be
-- appreciated.  Please remember that I shoot color print and
-- that my only
-- direct control (w/o scanning) is at the negative stage.
--
--
-- Steven Desjardins
-- Department of Chemistry
-- Washington and Lee University
-- Lexington, VA 24450
-- (540) 458-8873
-- FAX: (540) 458-8878
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--



RE: Crumpler bags

2003-03-26 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
Cannot comment on the camera bags.

I did find and purchase a couple of their lens pouches.  They work fine,
except the loop for placing onto a strap is just a little small.  I found
them at some shop in Baltimore during one of my meanderings.

Not much help, but what the hey,

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

-- -Original Message-
-- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 6:03 PM
--
-- I was filming a peace demo in Oxford recently and happened across a
-- photographer from the Oxford Times. He was carrying a
-- Crumpler bag and I
-- was impressed with the styling and looks. Didn't have long
-- to chat, and
-- certainly didn't get time to ask about the Crumpler - any
-- listers have
-- any experience of these things? Australian aren't they?
--
-- Actually I was thinking of replacing my long-in-tooth LL
-- Bean computer
-- carryall soon, and was looking at either a Spire USA bag, or
-- now maybe a
-- Crumpler. But...a bag called 'McBain's Love Child' ?? What
-- in blazes is
-- going on there? Too many blooming tinny's !
--
-- Cheers,
--
-- Cotty
--
--



RE: Power Thread - Battery Packs

2003-03-26 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
Dave,

I use both the Battery 1 for my AF280T and two Battery 2s for my AF400T.

On the occasions when I have a big event to shoot - wedding, ceremony,
banquets - it gives me great peace of mind.  The quicker recharging times
are fantastic and help when doing weddings or taking two posed shots of a
group.

I have had one of the batteries recelled and it is as good as new.  I like
the clips on them as I place them on my belt and they are pretty much
unobtrusive.

I always carry batteries just in case, but have yet to resort to them.

I have had only one problem with them.  I had to resolder one end of the
wires - going to the AF400T.  I just keep aware of how I press the wire or
how much stress I am placing on it.  A minor inconvenience considering what
it provides.

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

-- -Original Message-
-- From: David Chang-Sang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 6:23 PM
-- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- Subject: OT: Power Thread - Battery Packs
--
--
-- Hi folks...
--
-- In my quest for maintaining constant power to my numerous
-- flashes (Metz and
-- Vivitar) I'm curious to find out if any of you out there are
-- using any
-- Quantum Battery Packs.
--
-- If you are, how do you like them?  Which type are you using?
--
-- As the spring and wedding season approach I know that
-- sometimes NiMH may not
-- be enough.
--
--
-- Thanks a ton,
-- Dave
--
--



Re: OT: Crumpler bags

2003-03-26 Thread T Rittenhouse
If you like that you will like the Mini Cooper site (
http://www.miniusa.com/crm/mini_entrance.jsp ). Me, I think cute gets in the
way of the information.

Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto


- Original Message -
From: Harold Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 6:28 AM
Subject: Re: OT: Crumpler bags


  or now maybe a
  Crumpler. But...a bag called 'McBain's Love Child' ?? What in blazes is
  going on there? Too many blooming tinny's !

 If you think the names of their bags are mad you want to try visiting
 the Australian website!!

 http://www.crumpler.com.au/public/home.ehtml

 I don't know what they are on but I wish I had some. :-)

 My sort of company!!

 Harry

 --
 Harold Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: OT: OK, how do some people send HTML links to PDML, and I can't??

2003-03-26 Thread Mark Roberts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The only help that AOL tech support could offer me was to suggest I use 
the AOL Anywhere option (in other words, go to AOL as a web site while in 
another browser)

It's the AOL on the Web option: http://webmail.aol.com/
Should work with any browser, version 3 or higher.

If that doesn't work, just sign up for one of the free web-based email
services and subscribe that email address to the PDML (also prevents
PDML mail from overwhelming your mail email account). My preference is
www.mail.com


-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Pentax Zoom Help Requested-Again

2003-03-26 Thread Joe Wilensky
That $357 may be BH's price for it new, but it's an older lens and 
it can be found often used in excellent condition for more like $160 
or so (check KEH). The other 28-105's are the rebadged Tamron version 
(same f/4-f/5.6 range, but usually labeled IF for internal focusing, 
and no power zoom) and the new, compact f/3.2-4.5 Pentax lens. The IF 
f/4-5.6 one can still be found new for a bit under $200, and the new 
f/3.2-4.5 lens can be found for about $200.

I've  never used the 24-90, so I can't help you there.

Joe

Hello. I am going to purchase one of the following Pentax Zooms:

-FA 28-105 Power Zoom-$357.00
-FA 24-90 Zoom-$399.95
Can anyone recommend one lens over the other with regards to the 
following criteria(I do not consider the difference in price a 
factor):

-optical quality
-construction
-dependability
I know Pentax makes other 28-105's, but it is too confusing trying 
to figure out which is which other than the Power Zoom(maybe I'm 
just dense).

Thank you.

Francis T. Knapik




RE: 67 lens - screw mount adapter?

2003-03-26 Thread J. C. O'Connell
why would you want to use the huge, oversized
67 lenses on a 35mm body? ( I know I own
a bunch of them). If your going to put up
with the bulk and weight and carry
the 67 lenses, might as well bring a 67 body
along too.
JCO

 -Original Message-
 From: Ryan K. Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 1:18 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: 67 lens - screw mount adapter?
 
 
 Correction- I meant to say the EOS version is over $300.  I'm trying to 
 get 67 lenses on my 1Ds.
 
 J. C. O'Connell wrote:
 
 yes it exists, but WHY???
 JCO
 
   
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ryan K. Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 1:01 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: 67 lens - screw mount adapter?
 
 
 I know there's an adapter to go from 67 - K-mount, but is there one 
 that goes to screw mount?  Google didn't turn up any.
 
 TIA,
 
 Ryan
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 



Re: OT: some Digital SLR comments

2003-03-26 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Juey Chong Ong 
Subject: Re: OT: some Digital SLR comments


 
 On Tuesday, March 25, 2003, at 09:54 AM, Greene wrote:
 
  ___BR iWhich/I of
  the EOS cameras has an on-off switch?
 
 I don't remember, but I think it was one of those EOS Rebels
.

Isn't there a Canon list to answer questions like this?

William Robb



Re: How are these Tokina lenses?

2003-03-26 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 26.03.03 17:28, Joseph Tainter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Recently there have been three of these in autofocus:
 
 28-70 f2.6-2.8. Highly praised on this list for sharpness. Now discontinued.
 
 28-80 f2.8. I have it. Very sharp, high-quality images. Prone to flare
 shooting into the sun.
 
 28-70 f2.8. This one is new. From the review in Pop Photo, it is not as
 sharp as the other two. It is also less expensive. You get what you pay
 for. Still, it's not a bad lens.
 
That's funny - but the last one (28-70/2.8 SV) - won much better opinions in
German's Foto Magazine tests than older 28-70/2.6-2.8 (in fact, it was even
sligthly better than Pentax FA* 28-70 and Canon L 28-70). But I tend not to
believe in tests. I think all three options are very good, althought the
newest is said to be of slightly worse build quality (more plastic) - but
thanks to this, it is about 100 g lesser in weight too.

Regards
Sylwek





Re: 67 lens - screw mount adapter?

2003-03-26 Thread Ryan K. Brooks
I want to try the 1Ds as a digital back for the 67.I can go 
67-M42-EOS a lot cheaper (by several hundred $) than 67-EOS.This 
would be in addition to the 67 body.  Right now I haul two 67 bodies, 
the 600, 200, 55-100 and an MZ-S around my neck- so it's not that big a 
deal to swap either a 67 body or the MZ-S for the 1Ds.

I imagine I'm going to be disappointed by the lenses, hence I don't want 
to invest a lot (but I'm hoping).

-Ryan

J. C. O'Connell wrote:

why would you want to use the huge, oversized
67 lenses on a 35mm body? ( I know I own
a bunch of them). If your going to put up
with the bulk and weight and carry
the 67 lenses, might as well bring a 67 body
along too.
JCO
 

-Original Message-
From: Ryan K. Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 1:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 67 lens - screw mount adapter?
Correction- I meant to say the EOS version is over $300.  I'm trying to 
get 67 lenses on my 1Ds.

J. C. O'Connell wrote:

   

yes it exists, but WHY???
JCO


 

-Original Message-
From: Ryan K. Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 1:01 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 67 lens - screw mount adapter?
I know there's an adapter to go from 67 - K-mount, but is there one 
that goes to screw mount?  Google didn't turn up any.

TIA,

Ryan

  

   



 

   

 





Re: 18-35 FAJ

2003-03-26 Thread Rüdiger Neumann
The UK list price for the 18-35 FAJ lens is just GBP199 inc VAT.

Hallo,
that seems not much, as normaly 1 GBP = 1 Euro for photo equitment.
How is the price for the 4/20-35, for the 4/28-70, or 3.2-4.5/28-105 in GB.
So, we can compare how the price will be in our contry.
When will the 18-35 available?
regards
Rüdiger



RE: DSLR - No meter needed

2003-03-26 Thread Steve Desjardins
Somewhere I have a shot taken during a professional football game that
shows
a sideline photographer using an incident meter to get a reading.  So,
not
everyone relies on the camera and the abundance of shots to get things
right.

It's not exposure that bothers me, or at least a three shot bracket is
often enough.  But with a living moving, subject (like the hamster) 
it's the focus that I distrust the most. 




Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: DSLR - No meter needed

2003-03-26 Thread tom
 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Desjardins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Somewhere I have a shot taken during a professional
 football game that
 shows
 a sideline photographer using an incident meter to get a
 reading.  So,
 not
 everyone relies on the camera and the abundance of shots to
 get things
 right.

 It's not exposure that bothers me, or at least a three shot
 bracket is
 often enough.  But with a living moving, subject (like the hamster)
 it's the focus that I distrust the most.

Seems to work ok, but of course AF varies with the camera body just
like 35mm:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019message=4695154
http://www.digisportspix.com/

I guess with a hamster it would be tougher since they're so small...

tv






Re: 67 lens - screw mount adapter?

2003-03-26 Thread T Rittenhouse
I thought there wasn't much difference once you get to 300mm or so. I
thought the K300/4 and the 6x7 300/4 were the same lens except for the
mount. Now considering the price of a 300/2.8 the adapter is really cheap.

Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto


- Original Message -
From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 1:34 PM
Subject: RE: 67 lens - screw mount adapter?


 why would you want to use the huge, oversized
 67 lenses on a 35mm body? ( I know I own
 a bunch of them). If your going to put up
 with the bulk and weight and carry
 the 67 lenses, might as well bring a 67 body
 along too.
 JCO

  -Original Message-
  From: Ryan K. Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 1:18 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: 67 lens - screw mount adapter?
 
 
  Correction- I meant to say the EOS version is over $300.  I'm trying to
  get 67 lenses on my 1Ds.
 
  J. C. O'Connell wrote:
 
  yes it exists, but WHY???
  JCO
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Ryan K. Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 1:01 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: 67 lens - screw mount adapter?
  
  
  I know there's an adapter to go from 67 - K-mount, but is there one
  that goes to screw mount?  Google didn't turn up any.
  
  TIA,
  
  Ryan
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
 





Re: DSLR - No meter needed

2003-03-26 Thread Caveman
tom wrote:
http://www.digisportspix.com/
Horrible bokeh on the first photo (detailed on
http://www.digisportspix.com/bigtenwomenday1.html
)
cheers,
caveman


Re: Pentax Stereo Adapter

2003-03-26 Thread Rüdiger Neumann
Hallo,
I have both the adapter and the viewer. They are together ca. 100 Euro in
the german ebay.
It is very interessting and I'm realy hooked. I even bougth a Rollei twin
projektor to look 3D slides at a big screen with polfilter glasses.
I realy can recommend it.
Rüdiger




I may have a chance to buy one of these things real cheap, and even
though I'll never use it, I may just pick it up as another addition to
my useless crap collection (like I don't already have enough of those!
g)

Anyone know what these things are worth?  This one's in the original
box, and appears to have all the parts (including the viewer).  I'm
guessing that the idea is to shoot slides, and view the slides in the
viewer?

thanks,
frank

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The Optio S - - in my hot little hands.

2003-03-26 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
Well, after having my arm twisted by my Pentax rep (what a guy), I decided
to spend a little money and order the Optio S.  My local store had not
ordered any and since all the ones alloted to him were already doled out and
spoken for by other dealers this was the only way to get one - other than
mail-order [:-(].

It arrived from one of his stores the night before last.  Yes, we know it
was displayed in an Altoids tin.  Yes we know it does not weigh much.  Still
I was amazed at its size.  Wow!  I think the packing material in the
shipping box weighed as much as the camera!

And the finish on the metal case is fantastic.  I really like the grip on
the back (indentation for the thumb).  The only part that is flimsy is the
Battery/Card Cover on the bottom.  Though the lack of a cover would not
prevent the use of the camera.  It does not hold either in place.

A good thing is that it has 11MB of internal memory.  I don't have a card
yet and I can still take shots.  The Shutter Release Button takes a little
getting used to, definitely different than the other ps cameras I have
tried.  The only quibble I have so far is the OK button in the middle of the
Four-way Controller.  I have not gotten consistent in selecting it and
saving changes.

I have only taken about 35 shots with it so far.  I like the idea of having
a ps with an SMC lens on it ;-)  The manual states that it should be
possible to take 160 shots with the LCD monitor on and the flash fired for
half the shots.

Now I need to get a laptop.  I have the company's but it runs Windows NT
that does not support USB.  I am hoping to get one by this weekend so I can
really go out and play with the camera.

I have not played with the manual focus much.  And I do miss the Tv and Av
modes, but I have the CoolPix for that.

I have had three people here at work already comment favorably on its size.
They are considering getting one.  H, maybe I should get a commission?
Being a 3.2 MPixel camera, it fits the bill nicely for a ps digital.  With
its size there is no reason not to have it on my person at all times.

Nothing new to report, just more idle chatter,

César
Panama City, Florida



Re: Pentax Zoom Help Requested-Again

2003-03-26 Thread Roland Mabo
From: Frank Knapik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 13:04:37 -0500
Hello. I am going to purchase one of the following Pentax Zooms:

-FA 28-105 Power Zoom-$357.00
-FA 24-90 Zoom-$399.95
Can anyone recommend one lens over the other with regards to the following 
criteria(I do not consider the difference in price a factor):

-optical quality
-construction
-dependability
I know Pentax makes other 28-105's, but it is too confusing trying to 
figure out which is which other than the Power Zoom(maybe I'm just 
dense).
I don't think that it's so hard.
FA 28-105 f/4-5.6 = the oldest, with power zoom.
FA 28-105 f/4-5.6 (IF) = re-badged Tamron lens. OK for the price.
FA 28-105 f/3.2-4.5 AL (IF) = new and much better than the f/4-5.6 (IF).
I have it myself and I like it a lot. Quite similar in character to the 
24-90 I believe, but perhaps not as sharp. But then, you can buy almost two 
28-105 f/3.2-4.5 for the same price as one 24-90...

When it comes to build quality, all lenses has a plastic outside and lots of 
plastic inside. I'm happy with my 28-105, it feels solid and well put 
together. But I know that some doesn't like lightweight lenses and plastic 
(I have never found them to be inferior, neither in optical performance and 
long-term durability, to all metal lenses).

Best wishes,
Roland
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Re: 18-35 FAJ

2003-03-26 Thread Roland Mabo
Hi,
some prices from Jessops (http//www.jessops.com):
(UK Pounds)
FAJ 28-80 f/3.5-5.6 : 159.95
FA 28-90 f/3.5-5.6 : 159.95
FA 28 f/2.8 : 199.90
FA 28-105 f/3.2-4.5 AL (IF) : 229.90
FA 24-90 f/3.5-4.5 : 449.90
I couldn't find the FA 20-35 f/4 AL at Jessops.
199.90 for the FAJ 18-35 sounds very low...
Best wishes,
Roland





From: Rüdiger Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 18-35 FAJ
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 23:04:57 +0100
The UK list price for the 18-35 FAJ lens is just GBP199 inc VAT.

Hallo,
that seems not much, as normaly 1 GBP = 1 Euro for photo equitment.
How is the price for the 4/20-35, for the 4/28-70, or 3.2-4.5/28-105 in GB.
So, we can compare how the price will be in our contry.
When will the 18-35 available?
regards
Rüdiger


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Re: The Optio S - - in my hot little hands.

2003-03-26 Thread Christian Skofteland
On Wednesday 26 March 2003 14:55, Cesar Matamoros II wrote:
a lot of stuff about his new optio s

Cesar,

Two of my co-workers bought the Optio S the day it arrived in the local 
camera shop (Ace Photo for those of you in NoVa).  It is a tiny camera.  I 
thought my Optio 330 was small but compared to the Optio S it is a brick!

I haven't been able to wrestle one away from them so no report yet.  They 
both bought 256MB SD cards with the cameras which i believe is good for about 
150 shots at best resolution and quality.

By the way, I did get a commision for the sales:  A free roll of Kodak E100G 
slide film  (ok so it's a factory free sample)

If I wasn't saving for the *ist-D, I'd trade my Optio 330 for the Optio S.  
More features in a smaller package.

Christian



Re: The Optio S - - in my hot little hands.

2003-03-26 Thread Lukasz Kacperczyk
 Now I need to get a laptop.  I have the company's but it runs Windows NT
 that does not support USB.  I am hoping to get one by this weekend so I
can
 really go out and play with the camera.

I'm not sure I understand it correctly - you're buying a laptop to be able
to use a digital ps? ;-)

Lukasz



Re: OT: some Digital SLR comments

2003-03-26 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
Yes, but the interface is too complicated to figure out.

BR

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Isn't there a Canon list to answer questions like this?

William Robb

 





Re: Kodak High Definition 400 speed film?

2003-03-26 Thread Bruce Dayton
I just got back from Hawaii - flew from San Francisco to Maui.  I
didn't take anything faster than 400 speed and just let it go through
the x-ray with my camera - this is the carry on scanners.  I  had no
ill effects for the two scans that occurred.  Hand checking could be a
bit iffy and time consuming.


Bruce



Wednesday, March 26, 2003, 10:23:29 AM, you wrote:

BR I would treat the film like any other 400 film. I haven't flown since 
BR security has gotten tighter. I would prefer a hand inspection. Just 
BR don't put it in checked luggage. I don't worry about keeping print film 
BR refrigerated unless it's going to be weeks at high temps.

BR BR

BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

A few more questions about Kodak Portra UC400.

1.  Is it safe to send thru the x-ray machines at
airports?  I have 2 trips planned over the next few
months (Hawaii  Orlando), and I'm giving serious
thought to using this film exclusively.  I might order
a few packs!

2.  Based on these locations, is keeping the film
refrigerated an issue?


  





Re: The Optio S - - in my hot little hands.

2003-03-26 Thread Keith Whaley


Cesar Matamoros II wrote:
 
[...]
 
 I have not played with the manual focus much.  And I do miss the Tv and Av
 modes, but I have the CoolPix for that.

Pentax' own specs say there is a separate cable furnished for AV. 
But, you're holding it, so I yield the floor...

Anyhow, good luck. I'm glad you got one!

keith whaley
 
 I have had three people here at work already comment favorably on its size.
 They are considering getting one.  H, maybe I should get a commission?
 Being a 3.2 MPixel camera, it fits the bill nicely for a ps digital.  With
 its size there is no reason not to have it on my person at all times.
 
 Nothing new to report, just more idle chatter,
 
 César
 Panama City, Florida



Re: The Optio S - - in my hot little hands.

2003-03-26 Thread Keith Whaley
The logic is impeccable, Lukasz... 

Would that *I* could afford to do so! Would that a 17 Titanium
PowerBook was attainable, but Steve Jobs keeps the price high on
purpose! 
I'd have to sell my house first...

keith whaley


Lukasz Kacperczyk wrote:
 
  Now I need to get a laptop.  I have the company's but it runs Windows NT
  that does not support USB.  I am hoping to get one by this weekend so I
  can really go out and play with the camera.
 
 I'm not sure I understand it correctly - you're buying a laptop to be able
 to use a digital ps? ;-)
 
 Lukasz



Re: OT: some Digital SLR comments

2003-03-26 Thread Greene

--- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Juey Chong Ong 
 Subject: Re: OT: some Digital SLR comments
 
 
  
  On Tuesday, March 25, 2003, at 09:54 AM, Greene wrote:
  
   ___BR iWhich/I of
   the EOS cameras has an on-off switch?
  
  I don't remember, but I think it was one of those EOS Rebels
 .
 
 Isn't there a Canon list to answer questions like this?
 
 William Robb
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Yes, but my innocuous question was regarding a question in an on-topic post, not to
carry-on a conversation. Surely to merely mention the name of other brands can't be as
much of a list violation as ~your~ continuing the conversation by asking a rhetorical
question. Or does the curmudgeon status of BR and his too frequent mention of Nikon and
other products give him special dispensation on the list? I have yet to see you or 
anyone
post such as question as you directed at me (above) to BR. 
Double standards?


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Re: Pentax Stereo Adapter

2003-03-26 Thread frank theriault
Well, at the risk of repeating myself, these ones I'm looking at are
currently around $10Cdn (around $6US) at an auction at a Goodwill Store (they
sell used stuff - mostly clothing - and put the money to charitable uses).
I've since seen them at BH for over $300US, you say you saw them on eBay for
100 Euros, and I think Chris Brogden says that he's sold used ones for around
$100 Cdn.

For the price, I think I ~must~ buy them.  I was originally thinking that
they'd be more of a toy or a collector's thing, but hell, I might as well
try them out;  sounds like they could be a lot of fun - something new and
different!

Thanks to everyone who responded.  I'll let y'all know on the weekend if I
managed to snag them...

cheers,
frank

Rüdiger Neumann wrote:

 Hallo,
 I have both the adapter and the viewer. They are together ca. 100 Euro in
 the german ebay.
 It is very interessting and I'm realy hooked. I even bougth a Rollei twin
 projektor to look 3D slides at a big screen with polfilter glasses.
 I realy can recommend it.
 Rüdiger


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-Jean Paul Sartre




Re: Pentax Stereo Adapter

2003-03-26 Thread Jim Apilado
Stereo is a lot of fun.  I used my Pentax stereo device until I discovered
the Stereo Realist camera.  I got the Realist viewer and some RBT mounts for
Realist slides so I can mount the chips and do some minor adjustments.
I belong to the Cascade Stereo Club out here in Portland, OR.  It's a lot
more fun to be around folks who have an interest in stereo.  Most use
Realist cameras.  A few have some very expensive SLR stereo cameras ($3000).

Have fun.

Jim A.

 From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization: http://www.urbancaravan.com/
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 17:06:24 -0500
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Pentax Stereo Adapter
 Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 17:18:58 -0500
 
 Well, at the risk of repeating myself, these ones I'm looking at are
 currently around $10Cdn (around $6US) at an auction at a Goodwill Store (they
 sell used stuff - mostly clothing - and put the money to charitable uses).
 I've since seen them at BH for over $300US, you say you saw them on eBay for
 100 Euros, and I think Chris Brogden says that he's sold used ones for around
 $100 Cdn.
 
 For the price, I think I ~must~ buy them.  I was originally thinking that
 they'd be more of a toy or a collector's thing, but hell, I might as well
 try them out;  sounds like they could be a lot of fun - something new and
 different!
 
 Thanks to everyone who responded.  I'll let y'all know on the weekend if I
 managed to snag them...
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
 Rüdiger Neumann wrote:
 
 Hallo,
 I have both the adapter and the viewer. They are together ca. 100 Euro in
 the german ebay.
 It is very interessting and I'm realy hooked. I even bougth a Rollei twin
 projektor to look 3D slides at a big screen with polfilter glasses.
 I realy can recommend it.
 Rüdiger
 
 
 --
 Hell is others
 -Jean Paul Sartre
 
 
 



Re: DSLR - No meter needed

2003-03-26 Thread Cotty
Yeah.When I really need a shot I use the E-10 and take 50 shots
(that's the biblical 50),  One of them will come out, and I erase the
rest.  It's a way of working that's just not possible with a film (not
polaroid) camera.  I can see why some pro's really like digital.  OTOH,
I don't have to work this way often, so film is often a more enjoyable
medium.  More enjoyable becuase I can just have a certain fatalism
about each shot, knowing that the impact of a  missed shot is little
more than annoyance.

Interesting. In fact, all my camera originals are saved to CD, except for
the very few that I erase while shooting. That may be only about 5
percent. The optimised shots are also saved in a parallel CD system as
Photoshop files. This way, I can always go back to the originals, just
like having negs around. I tried holding the CDs up to the light, but I'm
derned if I can see anything

Cotty

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Re: OT: Crumpler bags

2003-03-26 Thread Cotty
I have one of the small Crumpler bags which holds an Olympus C5050 with
the 'body armour' fitted. In addition it  also has a front pocket which holds
cards etc.

I am very pleased with it and purchased it online from:-

http://www.morrisphoto.co.uk

This is an Oxford based photo shop which might explain why the
photographer from the Oxford Times was using a Crumpler bag.

Harry

Thanks Harry. That makes a lot of sense. I didn't realise Morris's did
Crumpler. I have been in there a few times, I got a LowePro Micro trekker
there once. I shall pop in and have a squint :-)

Cheers,

Cotty

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Re: OT: some Digital SLR comments

2003-03-26 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Greene
Subject: Re: OT: some Digital SLR comments


 
  Isn't there a Canon list to answer questions like this?
 
 Yes, but my innocuous question was regarding a question in an on-topic
post, not to
 carry-on a conversation. Surely to merely mention the name of other brands
can't be as
 much of a list violation as ~your~ continuing the conversation by asking a
rhetorical
 question. Or does the curmudgeon status of BR and his too frequent mention
of Nikon and
 other products give him special dispensation on the list? I have yet to
see you or anyone
 post such as question as you directed at me (above) to BR.
 Double standards?

Gosh Ed, I was just trying to help by perhaps getting an answer that would
point you in the direction of where you could go to get an answer. No need
to get all pissy about it.
If Bruce ever asks a question about how to tune a Nikon camera on or off, I
promise I will ask if there is a Nikon list that he can find an answer from.

William Robb



Re: Kodak High Definition 400 speed film?

2003-03-26 Thread Steve Pearson
Thanks Bruce for the info.  I'm curious, what other
films did you shoot, and how much did you bring? 
Maybe some Velvia?

Thanks again,
Steve


--- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just got back from Hawaii - flew from San
 Francisco to Maui.  I
 didn't take anything faster than 400 speed and just
 let it go through
 the x-ray with my camera - this is the carry on
 scanners.  I  had no
 ill effects for the two scans that occurred.  Hand
 checking could be a
 bit iffy and time consuming.
 
 
 Bruce
 
 
 
 Wednesday, March 26, 2003, 10:23:29 AM, you wrote:
 
 BR I would treat the film like any other 400 film.
 I haven't flown since 
 BR security has gotten tighter. I would prefer a
 hand inspection. Just 
 BR don't put it in checked luggage. I don't worry
 about keeping print film 
 BR refrigerated unless it's going to be weeks at
 high temps.
 
 BR BR
 
 BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 A few more questions about Kodak Portra UC400.
 
 1.  Is it safe to send thru the x-ray machines at
 airports?  I have 2 trips planned over the next
 few
 months (Hawaii  Orlando), and I'm giving serious
 thought to using this film exclusively.  I might
 order
 a few packs!
 
 2.  Based on these locations, is keeping the film
 refrigerated an issue?
 
 
   
 
 
 


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Re: The Optio S - - in my hot little hands.

2003-03-26 Thread Tonghang Zhou

On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Cesar Matamoros II wrote:

 It arrived from one of his stores the night before last.  Yes, we know it

I haven't seen any discussion about these points: what I'd be most
interested in knowing about is whether the camera has shutter
lag like the others and whether the focus is locked when the shutter
is pressed half-way down.  I think most ps cameras take some
time, after you press the shutter, to extend the lens and take
the picture.  This is a problem for me.

Tonghang.



Re: OT: some Digital SLR comments

2003-03-26 Thread Greene

--- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Greene
 Subject: Re: OT: some Digital SLR comments
 
 
  
   Isn't there a Canon list to answer questions like this?
  
  Yes, but my innocuous question was regarding a question in an on-topic
 post, not to
  carry-on a conversation. Surely to merely mention the name of other brands
 can't be as
  much of a list violation as ~your~ continuing the conversation by asking a
 rhetorical
  question. Or does the curmudgeon status of BR and his too frequent mention
 of Nikon and
  other products give him special dispensation on the list? I have yet to
 see you or anyone
  post such as question as you directed at me (above) to BR.
  Double standards?
 
 Gosh Ed, I was just trying to help by perhaps getting an answer that would
 point you in the direction of where you could go to get an answer. No need
 to get all pissy about it.
 If Bruce ever asks a question about how to tune a Nikon camera on or off, I
 promise I will ask if there is a Nikon list that he can find an answer from.
 
 William Robb

My bad.
 


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Re: Is this Pentax?

2003-03-26 Thread Rfsindg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 http://levi.kign.org/pentax/

I don't think this is a Pentax mount.
The grove for the locking pin of the camera is in the wrong spot.

Regards,  Bob S.



Re: OT: some Digital SLR comments

2003-03-26 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
Yeah! How do you turn a Nikon on? I rub it and rub it all over with the 
special velvet cloth, and it still just sits there. I must be losing my 
touch.

BR

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If Bruce ever asks a question about how to tune a Nikon camera on or off, I
promise I will ask if there is a Nikon list that he can find an answer from.
 





Re: OT: some Digital SLR comments

2003-03-26 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Rubenstein 
Subject: Re: OT: some Digital SLR comments


 Yeah! How do you turn a Nikon on? I rub it and rub it all over with the 
 special velvet cloth, and it still just sits there. I must be losing my 
 touch.

Isn't there a Nikon list that can answer questions like this?

William Robb



Re: Hand Meters

2003-03-26 Thread Mark Cassino
An incident meter reports one variable - the light itself.  A reflect light 
meter reports on two variables - the intensity of the light and the degree 
of reflectivity of the subject it is bouncing off.

You camera meter assumes that the light is bouncing off of an 18% gray 
subject.  If the subject is darker than that the meter will over expose, if 
lighter the meter will under expose.  So let's say you see a white rock and 
a black rock sitting side by side.  The light falling on them is the same, 
so one camera setting will result in the correct exposure for both.  But 
you camera's meter will be fooled by the tonal differences - the light 
reflecting off the white object will result in a recommended setting that 
will result in under-exposure.  The black object reflect back less light, 
and tricks your camera into recommending an exposure that will be over exposed.

An icident meter will measure the light directly - no reflectivity factor. 
Put it over the white object and then again over the black object, and the 
meter reading will be the same - because it is reading the light 
directly.  Or put a gray card into the scene - the gray card is the exact 
reflectivity that the camera expects - and meter off that.

the obvious drawback is that you have to be near the subject to use an 
incidnet meter.  So with a telephoto, where you may be poking into a shadow 
here and direct sun there, it's not practical.  But if the subject is still 
you can almost always get a good incident reading - either by going to it 
and reading or, for larger subjects under consistent light, just taking a 
reading where you are.  If I'm shooting on a beach or a field and the light 
is pretty consistent, a hundred yards or so won't make a different in the 
light, and I can meter where I am for what I'm shooting.  Not so in a city 
or the woods, though.

- MCC

At 06:59 PM 3/24/2003 -0500, you wrote:
OK, I'll ask the obvious question and expose my true ignorance.  Why
is the incident light a better reading?  After all, it's reflected
light that going to hit the film, no matter what is hitting the subject.
 It's also the reflected light that hits my eye.
Always wanted to ask this question . . .
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Kalamazoo, MI
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Re: DSLR - No meter needed

2003-03-26 Thread Mark Cassino
You are right, but I think it should be emphasized that reading the 
histogram is the key to success in this.  Relying on the output form the 
LCD can be a recipe for disaster - it really looks different in different 
light and with different brightness settings.

- MCC

At 06:10 PM 3/25/2003 -0700, you wrote:
One advantage of a DSLR is the instant review. Just take the shot,
read the highlights/histogram, and adjust accordingly.
It's not perfect, mainly because the image review screen is so small.
But a histogram, and a feature to show blown highlights, plus the
ability to zoom in, makes for some pretty useful instant feedback.
It's good enough that most don't really mind the camera's inability to
meter with non-CPU lenses. One shot gives more information than a
reading from an incident or spot meter.
--
John Mustarde
www.photolin.com
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35mm SUCKS! Try 4X5

2003-03-26 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I've been shooting 4X5 (mostly BW) heavily
for the last few months or so and have been
very satisfied with the results.

Today I went back and printed a few of my very best
quality 35mm film scans and they look like crap
after getting so used to 4X5. No surprise I guess.

Anyway, I suggest any of you yearning for better
quality images give 4X5 a shot. The lenses and
bodies ( monorails) arent very expensive used
and give an incredible bang for the buck.
I spent about $2500 for two cameras, ( a press and
a monorail view) and 6 lenses used (great shape) on
ebay. Really good lenses too.( Schneider  Fujinon).
As a comparison, I spent over $4000 on my P67
with 8 lenses and of course the quality is lower
with P67 than with 4X5.

Another nice thing about 4X5 is that it isnt
going to be obsoleted by digital soon. My
4X5 scans are ~90 Mpixels @2400 dpi. Large
prints (13X19 on my Epson) really give a You are
There result. No darkroom / bulky enlarger is
needed with todays scanners either..

Sure, there are certain types of photography
you cant do with a 4X5, but for the ones
you can like portraits, landscape, and architecture,
the quality trumps small and medium formats by
a wide margin.

Lastly, it's alot of FUN! Try it , you'll like it.

P.S. no TTL meters, no AF, no winders, no zooms,
no AE, No batteries, But thankfully, you dont need them.
There is one downside, NO SMC Pentax large format lenses!
JCO

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Re: Hand Meters

2003-03-26 Thread Mark Cassino

That's interesting and explains something I was puzzling over earlier 
today. I'm taking a class in studio lighting and usually use both the 
Minolta meter that is in the school's studio and my own Polaris.  Under 
flahes the two meters are very close - the Polaris is a little higher, but 
just 1/10th to 1/5th of a stop or so - but today I was working with 
Tungstun lights and the Polaris reported reading that were consistently 
about 3/4ths of a stop off from the Minolta.   I even put the two side by 
side and took readings.  Thanks for the explanation!

- MCC

At 07:42 PM 3/24/2003 -0500, you wrote:
FWIW: From a photographer that I worked with, that shoots slide film for 
magazines, Minolta meters track the sensitivity of film better than 
Sekonic meters  when the color temp drops below 5,500K (daylight). In 
other words, he gets more accurate meter readings with his Minolta with 
tungsten lighting.

BR

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As long as the photo cell's colour sensitivity is close to the colour of the
light being measured, all is well.
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