Re: 6x7 lenses - Brotherhood comments solicited

2003-07-23 Thread David Mann
Bob S. wrote:

> What lenses are the better ones in the Pentax 6x7 line-up?
> Did people trash the 90/2.8 or the 105/2.4 as not very good?
> What's good, better, and best among these lenses?
> Are the oldest (SMC Takumar?), metal bodied lenses
> a step down from the newer grip variety?

The 45mm f/4 is an amazing lens.  Small and light, and extremely sharp 
when you reach f/8.

I am also very fond of the old 300mm f/4 Takumar (same optics as the 
newer one, but different from the expensive ED IF version).

I haven't critically examined my slides from the 90mm f/2.8 yet but I'm 
certainly not disappointed with it.

I am picking up a 165mm f/2.8 tonight which will finish my 6x7 lens 
lineup... unless I find a bargain 400mm f/4 ED IF :)

Cheers,

- Dave

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/




Re: LX2000 screen question

2003-07-23 Thread Alan Chan
Ah. You don't know what you miss ;-)
But I do. I do indeed...  :-)

regards,
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Re: Upgrading the digital darkroom

2003-07-23 Thread Cotty
>After five years of loyal service and constant use, my Mac G3 300 died.
>The cause of death is unknown at this time, but it wouldn't boot even
>with a system disc in the CD drive and all the other drives
>disconnected. Probably a mother board failure.Since most of my work is
>now scanned color images for both internet stock and prints, I had to
>replace it right away. Fortunately, the introduction of the very nice
>and very fast G5 has dropped G4 prices precipitously. Thus I was able to
>land a G4 dual processor 1.25 gig for $1500. With a gig and a quarter of
>ram and a firewire scratch disk, PhotoShop flies. I also added the Apple
>20 inch cinema display, which cost almost as much as the computer. But
>it was worth it. Given a 3200 dpi, 150 meg scan from my Epson 3200 at
>100%, I can easily see the grain structure of 6x7 Provia 100F at 100%.
>Never saw that before. Didn't know the scanner was that accurate or that
>the monitor could display an image at that kind of resolution. But I'm
>pleased, very pleased. 

Nice one Paul. I'm green with envy. My Photoshop station is a Blue and
White G4 450 with 1Gb RAM and 2 drives (Cotty-built custom double-decker
internal drive carrier that has to be seen to be believed) under X.2.5
and I'm finding some tasks go a little slower than I would like - even if
I'm fiddling with puny little digicam files compared to your 67 scans ;-)

Sounds like the combo of lightning fast computer and decent screen makes
for an awesome package. Well done.




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Re: LX2000 screen question

2003-07-23 Thread Caveman
Alan Chan wrote:
"Especially compatible"... sounds suspicious... This is not another 
Caveman thing right?  :-)
Nope, it was genuine Pentax this time ;-)

Luckily I am not much a LX fan.  :-)
Ah. You don't know what you miss ;-)

cheers,
caveman


Re: LX2000 screen question

2003-07-23 Thread Alan Chan
I just looked in the "operating manual". The SG/SE 60 are marked 
"especially compatible" for the FA*24/2 & F*300/4.5. The SC69 is marked 
"compatible" with the 24 and "split-image and microprism spots darken, or 
focus accuracy deteriorates" for the 300.
"Especially compatible"... sounds suspicious... This is not another Caveman 
thing right?  :-)

I'd suggest an enablement with the "real thing": an LX ;-)
Luckily I am not much a LX fan.  :-)

regards,
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Re: Nikon and Pentax AF systems; the plot thickens

2003-07-23 Thread Brendan
Yup thats UPS for you.

 --- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Brendan"
> Subject: Re: Nikon and Pentax AF systems; the plot
> thickens
> 
> 
> > Oh come on UPS isn't bad at getting stuff where it
> > goes, they just have a habbit of dropping it ALOT
> 
> A few months ago, I got home from work and noticed a
> rather beaten up box on
> the street in front of my house. Being the good
> citizen that I am, I went to
> pick this trash up with the intention of tossing it
> in the garbage.
> Imagine my surprise to find that this box was
> addressed to me and contained
> some rather delicate components for my densitometer.
> 
> This is how UPS delivers the goods.
> 
> To top it off, the pricks have sent their exorbitant
> brokerage fees, which I
> refused to pay, since they didn't deliver the box
> even as far as my property
> line, to a collection agent.
> 
> William Robb
>  

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Re: LX2000 screen question

2003-07-23 Thread Caveman
Alan Chan wrote:

Thanks guys. That means a new SG-60 to renew my MX.  :-)
I just looked in the "operating manual". The SG/SE 60 are marked 
"especially compatible" for the FA*24/2 & F*300/4.5. The SC69 is marked 
"compatible" with the 24 and "split-image and microprism spots darken, 
or focus accuracy deteriorates" for the 300.

I'd suggest an enablement with the "real thing": an LX ;-)

cheers,
caveman


Re: Nikon and Pentax AF systems; the plot thickens

2003-07-23 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Brendan"
Subject: Re: Nikon and Pentax AF systems; the plot thickens


> Oh come on UPS isn't bad at getting stuff where it
> goes, they just have a habbit of dropping it ALOT

A few months ago, I got home from work and noticed a rather beaten up box on
the street in front of my house. Being the good citizen that I am, I went to
pick this trash up with the intention of tossing it in the garbage.
Imagine my surprise to find that this box was addressed to me and contained
some rather delicate components for my densitometer.

This is how UPS delivers the goods.

To top it off, the pricks have sent their exorbitant brokerage fees, which I
refused to pay, since they didn't deliver the box even as far as my property
line, to a collection agent.

William Robb



Re: MZ-5n vs MZ-6

2003-07-23 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

KK> I do have (one FA 28-80 3.5-5.6 too many, in fact) AF lenses, and I
KK> need to have at least one, for the wife. It is also that the Cobra
KK> AF-750 won't work on the ME, and that I don't have the time for the
KK> hassle of maintaining an old camera. Though I may change my mind :-)

I see. In such a case perhaps indeed an AF camera is a way to go for
you. I couldn't make my wife take either of ZX-L or ME Super and start
shooting though she did press the shutter release couple of times.

KK> What do you mean by better viewfinder? I don't really care about the
KK> technical superiority, the effect is what I am after. I cannot really
KK> understand the numbers on the technical spec, and, from the search I
KK> made on the archive, it does not look like the MZ-5n has a great
KK> viefinder either; people don't look happy to me. Unfortunately my
KK> local camera stores don't stock an MZ-5n so as to compare them
KK> side-by-side.

Oh well, ME Super has excellent viewfinder while either -5n or -6 are
seriously behind. What I meant by better are two things:

1. -5n has penta prism, -6 has penta mirror. For instance recently I
mounted M 35/2.8 and observed heavy vignetting in the viewfinder of -6
with somewhat less vignetting in case of -5n - my co-worker has one,
so I could try.

2. -5n has 0.8 magnification while -6 has only 0.7. It makes little
difference if you're shooting purely on AF. But in case of manual
focus, or in case when you want a selective focus and want to see in
the viewfinder how the darn thing is in focus, the greater
magnification comes in handy.

KK> Many thanks for the two answers so far!

You're always welcome.

KK> p.s.: I realise that I made an inadvertent (and invisible at the time
KK> of posting) mistake and the posting got hidden under a different
KK> thread in the archive. I apologise and ensure you I will clean up my
KK> act :-)

Oh, you don't have to behave __that__ good. Well, in time you'd see
what I mean 

As for your trouble with spot meter. It is actually quite convenient.
You set 6th function to 1 (if I am not mistaken) and then each time
you point your camera someplace and press the AE-Lock button, you get
your spot measurement that also would be valid for 20 seconds. After
20 seconds camera would reverse to matrix metering and exposure values
would probably change. This is "shiftable". That is, if you're in
shutter speed (T) priority mode, and you change the shutter speed,
then aperture value would change to match the shutter speed. Or if
you're using an old lens in full auto mode, and if you change the
aperture, then shutter speed would change to match.

Now, if you want to measure another spot you just press AE-Lock button
again, hereby  releasing the Auto Exposure Lock, point it wherever
you want and press AE-Lock button again.

In fact, from a year of use I must tell you that -6's interface is
absolutely fluent and absolutely convenient. It may take you one film
worth of shots to get used to it, and of course don't forget to read
the manual .

By the way, the automatic programs of sorts could be useful for your
wife if she likes her photos served automatically. I don't use them
all together except the sport mode that force predictive auto focus.

Again, what matters if your own taste and feeling if you get to handle
hopefully at the same time both cameras.

I think that by now I would probably choose -5n, but I am perfectly
happy with -6 just as well.

Good hunting.

---
Boris Liberman
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Re: LX2000 screen question

2003-07-23 Thread Alan Chan
Thanks guys. That means a new SG-60 to renew my MX.  :-)

regards,
Alan Chan
> I saw no problem with SG60 and 200/4, with or without a 2x TC. If there
> was some vignetting, it was to such a limited extent that it didn't
> attract my attention.
Likewise, the 20mm f2.8, 17mm f/4 fisheyTak, 300mm, 400mm f/5.6 all work
just swimmingly for me.
Thanks again to Peter in sunny Brighton for supplying my fleet with the new
screens.
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Re: Nikon and Pentax AF systems; the plot thickens

2003-07-23 Thread Brendan
Oh come on UPS isn't bad at getting stuff where it
goes, they just have a habbit of dropping it ALOT

 --- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bruce Rubenstein" 
> Subject: Re: Nikon and Pentax AF systems; the plot
> thickens
> 
> 
> > I see UPS finally delivered your sense of humor.
> 
> At least they have successfully delivered something.
> 
> William Robb
>  

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Re: LX2000 screen question

2003-07-23 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Caveman"
Subject: Re: LX2000 screen question


> Alan Chan wrote:
>
> > Anyone knows why "all lenses except those wider than 28 mm and slower
> > than f/3.5" could be used with these screens? Does that mean FA*24/2 &
> > F*300/4.5 could not be used? What could be the problem? Vignetting in
> > viewfinder?
>
> I saw no problem with SG60 and 200/4, with or without a 2x TC. If there
> was some vignetting, it was to such a limited extent that it didn't
> attract my attention.

Likewise, the 20mm f2.8, 17mm f/4 fisheyTak, 300mm, 400mm f/5.6 all work
just swimmingly for me.
Thanks again to Peter in sunny Brighton for supplying my fleet with the new
screens.

William Robb



Re: Nikon and Pentax AF systems; the plot thickens

2003-07-23 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Rubenstein" 
Subject: Re: Nikon and Pentax AF systems; the plot thickens


> I see UPS finally delivered your sense of humor.

At least they have successfully delivered something.

William Robb



Re: LX2000 screen question

2003-07-23 Thread Caveman
Alan Chan wrote:

Anyone knows why "all lenses except those wider than 28 mm and slower 
than f/3.5" could be used with these screens? Does that mean FA*24/2 & 
F*300/4.5 could not be used? What could be the problem? Vignetting in 
viewfinder?
I saw no problem with SG60 and 200/4, with or without a 2x TC. If there 
was some vignetting, it was to such a limited extent that it didn't 
attract my attention.

cheers,
caveman


Upgrading the digital darkroom

2003-07-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
After five years of loyal service and constant use, my Mac G3 300 died.
The cause of death is unknown at this time, but it wouldn't boot even
with a system disc in the CD drive and all the other drives
disconnected. Probably a mother board failure.Since most of my work is
now scanned color images for both internet stock and prints, I had to
replace it right away. Fortunately, the introduction of the very nice
and very fast G5 has dropped G4 prices precipitously. Thus I was able to
land a G4 dual processor 1.25 gig for $1500. With a gig and a quarter of
ram and a firewire scratch disk, PhotoShop flies. I also added the Apple
20 inch cinema display, which cost almost as much as the computer. But
it was worth it. Given a 3200 dpi, 150 meg scan from my Epson 3200 at
100%, I can easily see the grain structure of 6x7 Provia 100F at 100%.
Never saw that before. Didn't know the scanner was that accurate or that
the monitor could display an image at that kind of resolution. But I'm
pleased, very pleased. 
Paul



Re: Awesome Photos...

2003-07-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Albano Garcia wrote:

> Hi Annsan,
> the best place to get flash player is:
> http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
> This is the macromedia official site. It has no
> problem at all with browsers, most latest websites are
> made in flash, and easily viewable.
> Regards
>
> Albano

Thanks, Albano!
ann

>
>
> --- Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Albano Garcia wrote:
> >
> > > He is using flash. If you have flash installed you
> > > should see it right
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Albano
> >
> > I just had a problem too, with a young photographer
> > who I met playing Scrabble in
> > Washington Square park.  I have no idea how good a
> > photog he is but he was
> > a very nice young man and I want him to be good.  HE
> > warned me about FLASH and said
> > it might take 5 minutes to load the page but my
> > computer froze up and I had to reboot.
> > Glad to hear someone else had a problem with
> > FLASH...
> > Is there a safe place to download it from?  I got
> > nasty warnings about it when I was
> > in NEtscape 4.6  and it wouldnt work in explorer
> > either.
> >
> > The site is www.photobandit.com
> > would love to know how good the work is :)
> >
> > annsan
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Albano Garcia"
> > > > Subject: Awesome Photos...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Don't be lazy and look them all. Excellent
> > > > stuff...
> > > > > http://www.erikrefner.com/
> > > >
> > > > Pity he isn't so good with HTML/ Java Script. I
> > > > couldn't get past his index
> > > > page with either of my browsers.
> > > >
> > > > William Robb
> > > >
> > >
> > > =
> > > Albano Garcia
> > > "El Pibe Asahi"
> > >
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> > > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!
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Re: Nikon and Pentax AF systems; the plot thickens

2003-07-23 Thread Gary L. Murphy
Bruce Rubenstein wrote:

I see UPS finally delivered your sense of humor. 


It was FedEx... Get it straight!  :-)



Later,
Gary


Re: Nikon and Pentax AF systems; the plot thickens

2003-07-23 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
I see UPS finally delivered your sense of humor.

BR

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, but putting a Pentax-logo strap on a Nikon D100 helps remove the
sting of having to use a Nikon DSLR instead of a Pentax. 

It also seems to improve the whole system by a factor of 32.  Believe
me, I'm speaking from experience.  Photo colors are richer, the lenses
have less flare, and there is this... whatchamacallit... better "feel"
to the whole kit.  Chasseru D'Images calls it "Pou poup"  or "Gran
Poo" or something like that.
Best thing is confusing the hell out of gear watchers who are
wondering just what in the hell that guy is carrying - a Pentax
branded, Nikon-logo DSLR with a giant silver Pentax FA* 600/4 mounted
on it? You gotta be kidding.



Re: It's offical now, *ist is a professional camera

2003-07-23 Thread Brendan
oohh now I have to bid on it!!!

 --- T Rittenhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2942285876&category=15240
> 
> Ciao,
> Graywolf
> http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto
> 
> 
> 
>  

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It's offical now, *ist is a professional camera

2003-07-23 Thread T Rittenhouse
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2942285876&category=15240

Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto






Re: 6x7 lenses - Brotherhood comments solicited

2003-07-23 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 9:09 AM
Subject: 6x7 lenses - Brotherhood comments solicited


> Dear Brotherhood,
>
> What lenses are the better ones in the Pentax 6x7 line-up?
> Did people trash the 90/2.8 or the 105/2.4 as not very good?
> What's good, better, and best among these lenses?
> Are the oldest (SMC Takumar?), metal bodied lenses
> a step down from the newer grip variety?

They are all good, some better than others.
I like the smc 45mm f/4 a lot, I find it to be very sharp, very straight and
very flare proof. The Tak 75mm f/4.5 is sharp and contrasty, but flare is
poorly controlled. The 90mm LS is excellent, the Tak 105 f/2.4 is also
excellent, but stop it down a wee bit. If it was an f/2.8 it would be superb
wide open, as is, it needs to be stopped down a half stop.
The Tak 135 f/4 is fantastic, the SMC 165 f/4 is also fabulous.
The old Tak 200 is less good, it would be the 6x7 equivalent of the M 85mm
f/2. Not a bad lens, just not a great lens.
The SMC 300 f/4 is wonderful, though it would be nice if it had a tripod
collar. While there is no problem with the camera supporting the lens from
the tripod socket, the tripod needs to be quite meaty to support the combo
without tipping over.
Thats all the lenses from the line I own.

Be a Big Brother.

William Robb




Re: Nikon and Pentax AF systems; the plot thickens

2003-07-23 Thread John Mustarde
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 12:24:22 -0400, you wrote:

>Putting a Nikon sticker on your Pentax isn't going to make it a Nikon, no matter how 
>much you want it to.
>
>BR

No, but putting a Pentax-logo strap on a Nikon D100 helps remove the
sting of having to use a Nikon DSLR instead of a Pentax. 

It also seems to improve the whole system by a factor of 32.  Believe
me, I'm speaking from experience.  Photo colors are richer, the lenses
have less flare, and there is this... whatchamacallit... better "feel"
to the whole kit.  Chasseru D'Images calls it "Pou poup"  or "Gran
Poo" or something like that.

Best thing is confusing the hell out of gear watchers who are
wondering just what in the hell that guy is carrying - a Pentax
branded, Nikon-logo DSLR with a giant silver Pentax FA* 600/4 mounted
on it? You gotta be kidding.

--
John Mustarde
www.photolin.com



Re: Pentax goes to war

2003-07-23 Thread John Dallman
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Heide Clausen) wrote:

> Yup. Not to say that the double-digit OM series (OM-10/20/30/40) are
> bad cameras, they are just made for a more occational-use market than
> the single-digit series.

Yup. Personally, I kind of like a truly solid feeling on camera bodies, 
which those OMs don't have. The reason I've used screw-mount Pentaxes for 
years and - having decided that the K mount had some things to offer - I'm 
now on the look-out for a KX to go with the KM and the K2 is that they 
give me that solid feeling. 

Indeed, ergonomics *are* the reason I use Pentaxes rather than another of 
the good SLRs. Plus they're big enough - am OM-1 or an MX is too small 
for my hands. 

Do any of the later Pentax models use the same body frame as the 
Spotmatics through K-series? I'm finding that getting maintenance on 
K-series bodies is harder than on Spotmatics, there having been such huge 
numbers of the latter sold in the UK. 

--- 
John Dallman [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Pentax goes to war

2003-07-23 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
You need to find some folks from the Royal Navy. The show was about a UK 
sub.

BR

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mike wilson) wrote:


I don't know the OM series well at all but I think all of the shutters 
are electromechanical.


The OM-1 shutter is pure mechanical; the only electronics are the 
match-needle metering. Don't know about the OM-3; the OM-2 and OM-4 are 
electromechanical, and the OM-10 series are far too cheap and nasty for 
the taste of the USN. 

I could ask over on sci.military.naval if people really want to know 
what they use now; there are some recently ex-USN sub-drivers there. 

--- 
John Dallman [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Pentax grip strap for Z-1

2003-07-23 Thread Joe Wilensky
That is what I said -- that although the grip strap does make the whole 
camera outfit larger, it does make it easier to hold, especially with 
large lenses.

Joe

On Wednesday, July 23, 2003, at 04:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Joe,
I'd disagree.  The grip strap does make the Z-1/Z-1p easier to hold,
especially with big lenses like the K200/2.5, A300/4, or FA28-70/2.8.
The grip strap becomes almost a glove on your hand.
You can relax your grip on the camera and still have it in-hand.
I was a skeptical purchaser, but do like it now.
Regards,  Bob S.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 The grip strap adds even a bit more weight and bulk, but it does make
 the camera easier and more secure to hold, especially with a large or
 long lens attached.




Re: TOPDML this weekend - Beaches Jazz Festival

2003-07-23 Thread Caveman
frank theriault wrote:

Caveman:  I think you should make the drive down  the 401 
Hehe, there's this one here:

http://www3.sympatico.ca/vdonisa/montreal_jazz.jpg

;-) (ME super & 50/1.4)

cheers,
caveman


DC PDML #9

2003-07-23 Thread tom
When: Monday July 28th, 7:30 p.m.
Where: Hard Times College Park
http://www.hardtimes.com/collegepark.htm
Who: So far it's me, Christian and Cesar.

tv





RE: Survey: Whose PDML posts have helped you?

2003-07-23 Thread Simon King
>Whose PDML posts have helped you?
So many! I've found I've got useful and interesting information dozens of
threads that most of the PDML regulars have contributed to.
Special mention has to go to Cotty though - because he knows his stuff,
expresses it well and most always in a cheerful or humorous way. I've found
that's a rare thing.

I do have a complaint though. 
When I joined the list I had one camera/lens and was quite happy with it. 
Now, less than two years later, I have ten lenses, three bodies, multiple
winders, flashes, tripods, filters, brolly's... most all on advice from the
list.  I used to be happy with what I had, now I just need more more more.
:-)
Simon



Re: One AF option on SF1n lost on MZ5n?

2003-07-23 Thread Dario Bonazza 2
The MZ-5n is supposed to be able to automatically choose between single AF
and
continuous AF (by detecting subject's motion), while the SF-1n has a manual
switch for choosing between those options.
Despite such auto-switching AF works rather well (the MZ-5 cannot detect
lower speeds and its AF cannot follow higher speeds, so the auto-setting
works well only for medium speeds, such as running people) I'd prefer the
manual switch, also present in the MZ-S.

Dario Bonazza
www.aohc.it


- Original Message -
From: "Andre Langevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 6:05 PM
Subject: One AF option on SF1n lost on MZ5n?


> I noticed that the SF-1n has two types of AF and MZ-5n only one.  Is
> the MZ-5n "down-graded" on this aspect?
>
> Andre
> --
>




TOPDML this weekend - Beaches Jazz Festival

2003-07-23 Thread frank theriault
Just a heads up to anyone in Toronto who hasn't shown up to one yet, or
to anyone who's planning on visiting our fair burg this weekend:

The Toronto PDML gang (TOPDML) will be meeting at the Beaches Jazz
Festival this coming Saturday Afternoon.  Time and place is still being
worked out, but we'll keep the list apprised of any pertinant
developments.

Caveman:  I think you should make the drive down the 401 

cheers,
frank

--
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pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert
Oppenheimer




RE; Max 800

2003-07-23 Thread Butch Black
Hi,

I have found the Fuji, both the superia and the pro NHZ better then the
Kodak. I especially find that the Kodak once overexposed by more then maybe
2 stops becomes bulletproof and impossible to print well. Color crossover
and contrast flattening being the major problems. I also remember when Max
first came out and Kodak did not put the ASA part of the ISO speed anywhere
on the packaging or cartridge, it was listed as MAX/30. So Kodak lost points
in my book for being deceitful, or at least sneaky in that regards.




Butch

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Hermann Hess (Demian)




Re: MZ-5n vs MZ-6

2003-07-23 Thread Paul Eriksson
See below
> According to Boz's site and also Pentax UK's, they both have
> DOF preview, but according to Pentax US, the MZ-6 (OK, MZ-L)
> does not. Can someone (preferably from the UK) clarify this
> for me please?
Its been awhile since these discussions, but I am pretty postiive that DOF
preview is in a Custom Function of the -6/L.
The DOF preview has it's own button on the right side of the lens mount.

> Other than that, I cannot understand why the MZ-5n is so much
> more expensive than the MZ-6. If anything, the 6 has faster
> flash sync speed, and faster maximum shutter speed. Would anybody
> care to justify to me why they think the MZ-5n with the 28-80FA
> is £150 better than the MZ-6 with the 28-90?
Because if you want a camera like the -5n, you have no other option.
There's not another reasonably priced (cause for all I know Contax makes
one) camera with the classic layout and autofocus. Everything on the -5n
is in the right spot, and its easy to take in everything in by glancing at
the camera's front or top.
The -6/L is more like your -50. Its got a more modern layout. I played
with a friend's -6 once, and its a pretty neat camera. My favourite
feature is teh way the display changes colour when you go to a slower
shutter speed. Then, I'm easily amused by gadgets. However, when I wanted
to replace my own -50 a couple years back, I bought the -5n.
From my point of view there is only one reason to get the -5n a head of the 
-6/-L, the user interface.  Unless you see that as a must, get the -6/-L 
which is a much more modern camera.

/Paul (who has a ZX-L)

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Re: Pentax goes to war

2003-07-23 Thread Thomas Heide Clausen
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 23:18 +0100 (BST)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Dallman) wrote:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mike wilson) wrote:
> 
> > I don't know the OM series well at all but I think all of the
> > shutters are electromechanical.

I know them quite well :)

> 
> The OM-1 shutter is pure mechanical; the only electronics are the 
> match-needle metering. Don't know about the OM-3;

All mechanical. As a matter of fact, I think that there are two
seperate mechanical shutter mechanisms, one working for "lower"
shutter speeds, one for "higher" shutter speeds.

The OM3 is quite a neat camera, actually.


> the OM-2 and OM-4 are 
> electromechanical, and the OM-10 series are far too cheap and nasty
> for the taste of the USN. 

Yup. Not to say that the double-digit OM series (OM-10/20/30/40) are
bad cameras, they are just made for a more occational-use market than
the single-digit series.

--thomas



Re: MZ-5n vs MZ-6

2003-07-23 Thread Cory or Brenda Waters

- Original Message - 
From: "Kostas Kavoussanakis"  I am looking forward to hearing people's
> opinions on the viewfinder of the MZ-5n, hoping I will finally tell
> them apart.

I have no experience at all with the L/6 but I do have the 5N here in Sunny
Georgia.
 It's not a great viewfinder if you're taking a lot of pictures outside in
bright light.  You simply must shade the camera with your left hand if you
want to read the information in the display.  This is ok if you have two
hands and one of them is free but it is a little tedious if you're out
shooting the kids all day.
It's also not very bright when compared with my Super Program.
Other than that, I'm VERY pleased with my 5N and think kindly of the PDMLr
in Austrailia who saw fit to sell it to me at a good price :)

Cory Waters



Re: *ist D and flash

2003-07-23 Thread Lawrence Kwan
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, Lon Williamson wrote:
> Anyone know if the *ist is as capable with flash as the -S and -L?

Yes (except *ist has a lower X-sync speed than MZ-S when not using high
speed sync).  In other aspect, *ist may actually be superior, as its
matrix metering could be set as focal point dependent.  So off center
subject should have more accurate flash exposure.


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Re: Pentax goes to war

2003-07-23 Thread John Dallman
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mike wilson) wrote:

> I don't know the OM series well at all but I think all of the shutters 
> are electromechanical.

The OM-1 shutter is pure mechanical; the only electronics are the 
match-needle metering. Don't know about the OM-3; the OM-2 and OM-4 are 
electromechanical, and the OM-10 series are far too cheap and nasty for 
the taste of the USN. 

I could ask over on sci.military.naval if people really want to know 
what they use now; there are some recently ex-USN sub-drivers there. 

--- 
John Dallman [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Nikon and Pentax AF systems; the plot thickens

2003-07-23 Thread frank theriault
Hey, Caveman,

I've heard that with those lenses, digital beats large format, hands
down...



cheers,
frank

Caveman wrote:

> Actually they're very useful. You can print them, roll the paper in
> tubes and use them instead of lens. Following this procedure, you may
> eventually decide that zooms are as good as primes.
>
> cheers,
> caveman

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Re: MZ-5n vs MZ-6

2003-07-23 Thread gfen
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
> What do you mean by better viewfinder? I don't really care about the
> technical superiority, the effect is what I am after. I cannot really
> understand the numbers on the technical spec, and, from the search I
> made on the archive, it does not look like the MZ-5n has a great
> viefinder either; people don't look happy to me. Unfortunately my
> local camera stores don't stock an MZ-5n so as to compare them
> side-by-side.

The -5n uses an actual pentaprism inside, I think the -6/L uses a
pentamirror. This will make the viewfinder a little dimmer.

I may be wrong on that.

No one seems to be a real big fan of the viewfinders of any MZ/ZX camera,
except the MZ-S. I've compared an MZ-S to a ZX-5n and an LX, and the LX
blows both away.

I purchased an MX to be a "backup" 35mm body, and for extensive use of
adapted 645 lenses. Using them on the -5n was kind of painful.


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Re: Pentax, a trademark bought from Zeiss???

2003-07-23 Thread frank theriault
Thanks, Dario,

Every Pentaxian should know that!Besides, I'm a "trivialist", by which
I mean, I know lots of useless little factoids, but not much about any
particular topic.  I'll file your little Pentax Name History in my "useless
facts file", where it will happily remain until needed - who knows, I may end up
on Jeopardy some day (do they have that in Europe?  It's an American trivia game
show - very popular).  They may have a Pentax topic some day (Hah!)  .

cheers,
frank

Dario Bonazza 2 wrote:

> Andre,
>
> As far as I know, things were more complicated tha stated by Mr. Gandy.
>
> Both Asahi and Zeiss "invented" the name Pentax for their own purposes, in
> different times and unaware each other. Then, when Asahi Pentax cameras were
> put on sale internationally, Asahi folks discovered that Carl Zeiss already
> registered the Pentax trade name for some movie projectors on sale on
> certain markets (South Africa, East Germany and maybe Finland). So Asahi
> Pentax cameras sold in those markets were called either Asahiflex (like
> older models) or Asahi Pentar for a few years.
>
> In that same period Western and Eastern Zeiss companies were fighting for
> getting Carl Zeiss and other famous Zeiss-related brand names, but the
> Pentax trade mark was of very minor interest for them, since it was never
> used for renowned Zeiss equipment.
> At the end, Zeiss Jena lost the suit and all Zeiss brand names (such as
> Contax, Sonnar, Tessar, and so on).
>
> Later, when Pentax name was well established worldwide, I believe that Asahi
> probably bought from VEB Pentacon (or maybe from Zeiss Oberkochen?) the
> rights for using the Pentax name in those small markets too. I think it had
> to be a cheap agreement, since at that time everybody "knew" that Pentax was
> a Japanese camera company and not a Zeiss trade name. It is also possible
> that Asahi paid nothing, since Eastern VEB Pentacon was no longer capable to
> claim their old Zeiss trade marks on international markets. Just my guess
> here.
>
> Dario Bonazza
> www.aohc.it
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Andre Langevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 11:36 PM
> Subject: Pentax, a trademark bought from Zeiss???
>
> > Stephen Gandy writes:
> >
> >  > until bought by Asahi.  It was originally derived from "PENTaprism"
> > and "contAX.">
> >
> > Was it really bought to Zeiss Ikon?
> >
> > Andre
> > --
> >

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One AF option on SF1n lost on MZ5n?

2003-07-23 Thread Andre Langevin
I noticed that the SF-1n has two types of AF and MZ-5n only one.  Is 
the MZ-5n "down-graded" on this aspect?

Andre
--


Re: MZ-5n vs MZ-6

2003-07-23 Thread Jonathan Donald
Hi Kostas,

I went out of my way to find a -5n (now
discontinued)and paid quite a bit more for it than the
MZ-6 (or ZX-L as is here in the US). I had some good
reasons for doing this.

1) The spot meter function on the -6 is only available
as a custom function mode of the memory lock button.
Not very convenient, especially if you want to meter
both your shadows and highlights to determine what the
range of the film will actually capture.

2) It is a camera that is really designed to be used
in one of the automatic or program modes. The
bi-directional switch around the shutter button
becomes very awkward in metered manual mode. It is
your shutter speed toggle AND aperture toggle, with
the use of a tiny little button to change the toggle
to aperture control (and must be depressed the entire
time). Ergonomically it was extremely clumsy (at least
for my hands).

3) The -5n allows you to vary the amount of TTL fill
flash. You have to "trick" it by setting your daylight
exposure in metered manual, then dial in your +/-
exposure compensation to change the amount of fill
flash. I could not figure out a way to do this on the
-6, as the exposure compensation feature was only
available in the autoexposure modes (again using the
bi-directional toggle). Note: what I am talking about
here is not the same thing as "contrast control" which
is one of the more advanced flash functions found on
the -6.

Overall, I felt most of the controls on the MZ-6 were
a sloppy afterthought. It is a great little camera if
you just like to select the appropriate picture mode
icon and let the camera do the rest. If you actually
want to have control over your exposure it is so-so.
It can be done, but it is worlds apart from the -5n
which in contrast is simple, direct, and familiar to
those who have used older SLR's.

Incidentally, I also handled the *ist in a couple of
stores. I liked it much better than the -6, but not as
much as the 5n. K and M series lenses are not usable
with the *ist (a real problem for me), and it has the
same flash limitation as the -6 (#3 above). In
addition, it was a bit small for my hands, but after
handling it for several minutes I became used to it.

Hope this was helpful. Try to handle your camera of
choice before you buy... that's the best advice I can
give. I'm very glad I didn't make my choice by
comparing specification sheets alone, then order by
mail.

Best regards,
-Jonathan-




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Re: New "Pentax Screw Mount" SLR !!!

2003-07-23 Thread Jim Apilado
I recall that there were other camera brands that adopted the M-42 mount
during the "screw mount" era of the Sixties.  As digital SLR's get more
popular,  some camera designer might get the itch to make a DSLR that would
have the necessary mechanics to take older and newer K-mount lenses.

Jim A.

> From: "Rob Brigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:09:31 +0100
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: New "Pentax Screw Mount" SLR !!!
> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 05:13:59 -0400
> 
> http://www.cameraquest.com/voigtFlexTM.htm
> 
> Perhaps this is the alternative for those not happy with the *ist D
> mount!!??
> 



Re: 6x7 lenses - Brotherhood comments solicited

2003-07-23 Thread brooksdj
> Dear Brotherhood,
> 
> What lenses are the better ones in the Pentax 6x7 line-up?
> Did people trash the 90/2.8 or the 105/2.4 as not very good?
> What's good, better, and best among these lenses?
> Are the oldest (SMC Takumar?), metal bodied lenses
> a step down from the newer grip variety?
> 
> Regards,  Bob S.  (considering joining the Brotherhood)
> 
Having just joined myself,i can only offer this,Bob.
I have the 90 f2.8 ls lens(Takumar).Its supposed to be not super but i'm getting some
nice chromes and B&W negs from it.The colour proofs i get are ok,i think there soft,my 
SO
says there 
fine(dont forget i'm down to an eye and 3/4 now)
Even the seller said when i asked about the 90, said that it may not be the best,but 
i'd
be happy with 
the results.
I'm sure some are a lot better,but i'm happy so far for this,my starter lens.
Its a nice step up.

Dave





Re: Agfa Ultra 100

2003-07-23 Thread Albano Garcia

Hi,
how it does with skin colors? 
Regards

Albano


--- Derby Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I've been trying this film over the last few weeks.
> 
> Have found it is just as saturated and as fine
> grained as the old Ultra 
> 50, but with the bonus that it has more exposure
> latitude (as well as 
> the extra stop, natch). Accidently had the camera
> set to 400 for a few 
> frames. Two stops underexposed, and the shots were
> still totally usable 
> (and still pretty saturated).
> 
> Might post some to a PDML one day, when I am
> convinced the last few 
> rolls weren't just flukey. But I know I love this
> film (and it is much 
> cheaper than the Kodak Porta UC).
> 
> D
> 
> 
> -- 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 


=
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Re: thinking about an Optio 550

2003-07-23 Thread ernreed2
Jose Rodriguez posted:
 
> If you do not mind driving a little, I believe that both: 
> 
> Precision Camera & Video 
> 3810 N. Lamar
> Austin, TX 78756
> 1-800-677-1023
> http://www.precision-camera.com/
> 
> and
> 
> Camera Co/Op of Austin
> 1718 South Congress
> Austin TX 78704 
> (512) 804-2667 
> 
> carry the Pentax Optio 550 Digital Camera.  Give them a call to see if they 
have any in
stock.
> 
> I am surprised that the Camera Exchange in San Antonio does carry the Optio 
550.

Thanks -- I'll look into the Austin possibilities. I called Camera Exchange, 
and after clarifying that I was not referring to "a flash for a Canon?" they 
said they didn't carry
it.



6x7 lenses - Brotherhood comments solicited

2003-07-23 Thread Rfsindg
Dear Brotherhood,

What lenses are the better ones in the Pentax 6x7 line-up?
Did people trash the 90/2.8 or the 105/2.4 as not very good?
What's good, better, and best among these lenses?
Are the oldest (SMC Takumar?), metal bodied lenses
a step down from the newer grip variety?

Regards,  Bob S.  (considering joining the Brotherhood)



Re: Some new ads for the Optio S

2003-07-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I agree with Bill that its an ideal "take anywhere" camera. I also got the
128mb card, plus a 64 for backup.  That gives me enough for a week of
"snapshots."  I'll take it to Western Canada next month, but I also plan to
take my MZ-5 with a wide angle lens and a flexible zoom.  That way, I can also
get some "photographs" to go with my "images."

Dan

Bill Owens wrote:

> Since none of my local dealers had any in stock when I got mine, I ordered
> it from Wally World for about the MSRP, but with a 128mb card for $0.01,
> another no-brainer.  I think you'll find that it's an ideal take anywhere,
> snapshot camera that will give you 4x6 snaps that are the equal of even the
> best minilab print.
>
> Don't forget though, according to some folks around here, it doesn't take
> "photographs", only images and ink jet prints :-)



Re: thinking about an Optio 550

2003-07-23 Thread Jose R. Rodriguez
ERNR,

If you do not mind driving a little, I believe that both: 

Precision Camera & Video 
3810 N. Lamar
Austin, TX 78756
1-800-677-1023
http://www.precision-camera.com/

and

Camera Co/Op of Austin
1718 South Congress
Austin TX 78704 
(512) 804-2667 

carry the Pentax Optio 550 Digital Camera.  Give them a call to see if they have any 
in stock.

I am surprised that the Camera Exchange in San Antonio does carry the Optio 550.

Regards,

Jose R. Rodriguez

> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: 2003/07/22 Tue PM 07:04:30 CDT
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: thinking about an Optio 550
> 
> "On paper" the Optio 550 looks very interesting to me; unfortunately NO store 
> in my home city ("ninth-largest in the USA" notwithstanding) carries it so if I 
> do get one it'll have to be purchased sight unseen.
> 
> Looking for any useful comments about this camera. I like the idea of *small* 
> because I'm looking for it to be my carry-everywhere camera; and not so 
> intrigued by the Altoids-tin one because I like having manual controls 
> available (even when I don't use them much). 
> 
> The only other camera on the market that's seriously tempting me at the moment 
> is the Olympus C5050, but I don't think it's quite as small, and it's not a 
> Pentax. Also, I tried one out in a local store (this, they can carry, but not 
> Pentax) and was underwhelmed by image quality.
> 
> 
> 
> 



Re: Need help with ME Super

2003-07-23 Thread T Rittenhouse

- Original Message -
From: "T Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: Need help with ME Super


> There is a guy who offers a complete tear down and rebuild of the ME Super
> (more than a CLA) for a BIN of $40 (plus parts, I am sure). I have no idea
> of what kind of work he does.
>
Sorry,  ... guy on Ebay who offers ...




RE: thinking about an Optio 550

2003-07-23 Thread Amita Guha
I can't speak for the 550, but I have the 220 and I really enjoy using
it. The user interface is intuitive and easy, IMO, and I imagine the 550
will be similar. The only caveat is that the range on the flash is
rather short - if you want anything beyond about 8-10 feet, you're out
of luck. 

I myself have my eye on the Nikon Coolpix 5400, which comes out this
summer. I Probably won't buy it but it has a very nice set of features.
I know, blasphemy. :) Hey, if Pentax made one I'd be all over it...



Re: Need help with ME Super

2003-07-23 Thread T Rittenhouse
Oh god, do not go squirting oil into the mechanism.

That can screw up everything. Overlubricating a camera mechanism is the
worst thing that can happen (it acts as a magnet for every bit of crap in
the air), far better no lubs at all then it just wears out faster. In fact,
overlubrication may be your friends problem in the first place, especially
if he had it serviced by someone who didn't know what he was doing, or just
bought it from someone like that. It is very easy to get a camera that is
gummy to work OK for a few weeks, but to fix it from that fix requires it be
completely torn down, ultrasonically cleaned, and rebuilt. And, if enough
grit has gotten into the pivot holes it even that may not fix it.

To give you an idea how much oil is needed, I use a small sewing needle
stuck eye end into piece of dowling. To oil a pivot hole, I dip the tip of
the needle into some watch oil. Then I shake it off to get rid of excess
oil. Next I touch the point of the needle agains the bearing surface. That's
it.

Remember, camea bearings only operates at a very slow speed, there is no
need for an oil bath to carry off heat. All that is needed is enough oil to
fill in the roughness of the bearing. More than that just collects dust.
Dunking a modern camera in solvent to get rid of excess oil desolves the
plastic foam that is used as light seals, and loosens the insulating tape
that is often used to prevent shorts in electronic cameras. So, while you
will hear of doing both (and the solvent dip worked pretty well on old all
metal mechanical leaf shutters), don't ever squirt oil, or solvent in a
modern camera.

Ciao,
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- Original Message -
From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PDML" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 1:26 AM
Subject: Need help with ME Super


> Perhaps it is something to do with oil that was used when
> camera was re-assembled. If so, then how can I get a small bottle of
> original Pentax camera oil for my friend? Anyone has it? Where to get
> it? How to get it?





Re: Pentax, a trademark bought from Zeiss???

2003-07-23 Thread Dario Bonazza 2
Andre,

As far as I know, things were more complicated tha stated by Mr. Gandy.

Both Asahi and Zeiss "invented" the name Pentax for their own purposes, in
different times and unaware each other. Then, when Asahi Pentax cameras were
put on sale internationally, Asahi folks discovered that Carl Zeiss already
registered the Pentax trade name for some movie projectors on sale on
certain markets (South Africa, East Germany and maybe Finland). So Asahi
Pentax cameras sold in those markets were called either Asahiflex (like
older models) or Asahi Pentar for a few years.

In that same period Western and Eastern Zeiss companies were fighting for
getting Carl Zeiss and other famous Zeiss-related brand names, but the
Pentax trade mark was of very minor interest for them, since it was never
used for renowned Zeiss equipment.
At the end, Zeiss Jena lost the suit and all Zeiss brand names (such as
Contax, Sonnar, Tessar, and so on).

Later, when Pentax name was well established worldwide, I believe that Asahi
probably bought from VEB Pentacon (or maybe from Zeiss Oberkochen?) the
rights for using the Pentax name in those small markets too. I think it had
to be a cheap agreement, since at that time everybody "knew" that Pentax was
a Japanese camera company and not a Zeiss trade name. It is also possible
that Asahi paid nothing, since Eastern VEB Pentacon was no longer capable to
claim their old Zeiss trade marks on international markets. Just my guess
here.

Dario Bonazza
www.aohc.it


- Original Message -
From: "Andre Langevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 11:36 PM
Subject: Pentax, a trademark bought from Zeiss???


> Stephen Gandy writes:
>
>  until bought by Asahi.  It was originally derived from "PENTaprism"
> and "contAX.">
>
> Was it really bought to Zeiss Ikon?
>
> Andre
> --
>



RE: Need help with ME Super

2003-07-23 Thread Blivit4
In a SLR, generally, when the shutter button is pressed, the mirror is relesased, 
moves to the top position and releases the first shutter curtain. These are sequential 
actions, somewhat like a Rube Goldberg gizzmo where one action sets off the next. It 
sounds like the linkages for the mirror (release and/or spring) are gummed up. They 
are usually assembled dry. Very few parts in a camera are actually lubricated and then 
only with very little lube. I would suggest cleaning the linkages with a small brush 
wet with lighter fluid or paint thinner. 
It's not a battery problem. 

BR

Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hi!
>
>There is this ME Super of my friend who exhibits this odd behavior.
>It takes half dozen frames before the mirror-up lag settles to its
>normal. Before then it works like this:
>1. You press (I almost wrote "hit" here ) the shutter release.
>2. Mirror leisurely makes its way to the top.
>3. One there mirror generously allows shutter to fire, which fires
>perfectly fine though.
>4. You are done.
>
>After 5 or so shutter releases it all becomes normal.
>
>What gives? Perhaps it is something to do with oil that was used when
>camera was re-assembled. If so, then how can I get a small bottle of
>original Pentax camera oil for my friend? Anyone has it? Where to get
>it? How to get it?
>
>Thanks!
>
>---
>Boris Liberman
>www.geocities.com/dunno57
>
>

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Re: Need help with ME Super

2003-07-23 Thread T Rittenhouse
Sounds like it needs a CLA (Clean, Lub, and Adjust). Gummy lubricants tend
to do that, after they get stirred about a bit they work ok until they set
about for a while. Also could be some gummy mirror foam stuck in the
mechanism. Both require a CLA to fix. In reality one should probably have a
CLA done every 5 years or so in normal use. Professional type use or use in
harse environment means it should be done more often.

A CLA can cost anywhere from $35 to $150 depending on who does it, and
somewhat on whether it is done properlly (requires to camera to be
disassembled) or half-assed (open it up squirt solvent into it). Price is
also somewhat dependent on whether the shop has all the expensive equipment
to do a proper adjustments after the cleaning and lubricating, and the
specialized tools Pentax sells for disassembly/reassembly (according to the
shop manual you need two special wrenchs and an special electrical tester).
So, for proper work the price range is probably more like $60-$150.
There is a guy who offers a complete tear down and rebuild of the ME Super
(more than a CLA) for a BIN of $40 (plus parts, I am sure). I have no idea
of what kind of work he does.

Ciao,
Graywolf
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- Original Message -
From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PDML" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 1:26 AM
Subject: Need help with ME Super


> Hi!
>
> There is this ME Super of my friend who exhibits this odd behavior.
> It takes half dozen frames before the mirror-up lag settles to its
> normal. Before then it works like this:
> 1. You press (I almost wrote "hit" here ) the shutter release.
> 2. Mirror leisurely makes its way to the top.
> 3. One there mirror generously allows shutter to fire, which fires
> perfectly fine though.
> 4. You are done.
>
> After 5 or so shutter releases it all becomes normal.
>
> What gives? Perhaps it is something to do with oil that was used when
> camera was re-assembled. If so, then how can I get a small bottle of
> original Pentax camera oil for my friend? Anyone has it? Where to get
> it? How to get it?
>
> Thanks!
>
> ---
> Boris Liberman
> www.geocities.com/dunno57
>




Re: Kodak Gold 100 still lives

2003-07-23 Thread T Rittenhouse
Whatever!

This is like the equality thing you have to aim at the lowest common
denominator. People with an IQ under 10 or so are probably in a padded cell
someplace, for their own protection (don't get me started on what I think of
that), so if you want everyone to understand what you mean you have to aim
at an IQ of 11. Me? I would rather buy from someone who thinks I am at least
smart enough to wipe my own behind, so they may find themselves losing most
or their customers with IQs over 50. It will be interesting to watch
marketing trends for the next couple of years to find out if Kodak's
marketing people are as smart as they think their customers are .

Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto


- Original Message -
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: Kodak Gold 100 still lives


>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Butch Black"
> Subject: Re: Kodak Gold 100 still lives
>
>
>
> > This once again proves the wisdom of the late P.T. Barnum;
> > "No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American
> > public"
>
>
> Errrp.
> That should read "overestimating".
>
> William Robb
>




Re: thinking about an Optio 550

2003-07-23 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi ernreed2,

on 22 Jul 03 you wrote in pentax.list:

>Looking for any useful comments about this camera. I like the idea of *small*
>because I'm looking for it to be my carry-everywhere camera; and not so
>intrigued by the Altoids-tin one because I like having manual controls
>available (even when I don't use them much).

I have the 550 and it is great. It is small but has a 5x zoom. And it  
gives you much manual control: besides its automatic program modes it  
has aperture and time priority. Another great feature is the battery: it  
lasts very, very long. A friend of mine to more than 400 pictures with  
one charge.

Actually I would prefer the cheaper Optio 450 (which was not available  
when I ordered my 550). It has 4MP instead of 5MP. IMHO this is no real  
disadvantage. The advantage is that the noise level is lower at the 450,  
OTOH. There are two more differences: the 550 works with 12Bit per  
color, the 450 with 10Bit (but I don't believe that we could see a  
difference because of that). The second difference is that the 450  
doesn't support TIF. But honestly - I have compared a 550 TIF and a 550  
JPG and I cannot see any difference. The only effect of using TIF is,  
that it takes 18-24 seconds to save the picture... =:-O

Cheers, Heiko



New "Pentax Screw Mount" SLR !!!

2003-07-23 Thread Rob Brigham
http://www.cameraquest.com/voigtFlexTM.htm

Perhaps this is the alternative for those not happy with the *ist D
mount!!??



Re: Need help with ME Super

2003-07-23 Thread Dr E D F Williams
That's quite another story. Is he an instrument maker? I fixed my ME some
time ago (transport mechanism needed a CLA) and used very expensive
molybdenum dioxide based lubricant I got from Reichert many years ago.

Don
___
Dr E D F Williams
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Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery
Updated: March 30, 2002


- Original Message -
From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: Need help with ME Super


> This is going to be a collective answer to Dr Williams and Mr William
> . Hence I am talking to myself and letting them hear .
>
> This friend of mine actually took his ME Super apart, cleaned it up,
> and re-assembled the darn thing. He used the service manuals that are
> so generously were provided by one of PDMLers whose name I don't
> remember, but no offence. So he is handy enough to try new set of
> batteries.
>
> In fact, this problem started some time after he re-assembled the
> camera and that time it was only one or two first shutter releases and
> then it all was normal. Since he mostly shoots in-doors it wasn't too
> much of a nuisance. But now it is getting real serious.
>
> I really hope that there is something to be done before he submits his
> camera to CLA. It is very difficult to find a technician that can do
> it. I am actually quite nervous about my ME Super too... I am going to
> get it from repairs today.
>
> Boris
>




Re: New printer rumours?

2003-07-23 Thread David Mann
Anthony Farr wrote:

> Care to mention which brand the distributor handles?

Not sure.  My friend was asking about both Canon and Epson, but they 
could easily be referring to another brand.

Cheers,

- Dave

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/