Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?

2004-01-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Jan 9, 2004, at 7:36 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

I'm not crazy about the K35/2.0 ... oh, it's a fine optic when stopped
down a bit, and i even like it wide open, but it's a little large for 
my
taste.
Hi Shel,
I agree with your assessment of the K35/2.0. On the other hand, the 
M35/2.0 is a very nice lens and is quite compact. It's one of my most 
frequently used lenses.



Re: Unusual subjects to photograph.

2004-01-09 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Malcolm Smith
Subject: RE: Unusual subjects to photograph.


 mike wilson wrote:

  About 15years ago I found two whole Triumph Bonnevilles in a
  skip.  As far as I know, they are still running.

 That is both amazing and very sad. Who on earth would throw away a Triumph
 Bonneville, let alone two of them?

A better question is, who in their right mind would buy one in the first
place?

William Robb



Re: version 1.1

2004-01-09 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Tom Lesser
Subject: Re: version 1.1


 Now, with the lens off A, putting the camera into manual and pressing
the
 green button will give the correct shutter speed.

 I've just installed v1.1 and have tried several A lenses in off A
 apertures and when I press the green button in Manual,  all I get is
 a flashing Av-- in the LCD panel.  In fact, I get the flashing
 Av-- whether the mode is set to P, Tv, Av, M or B.  Any help out
 there?

Have you got the custom function set to allow shutter release with the lens
off A?
The upgrade allows any lens to be used off the A position, no matter what
series it is.

William Robb



Re: Firmware 1.1 good but not perfect :-( [wishlist for 1.2]

2004-01-09 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: mapson
Subject: Re: Firmware 1.1 good but not perfect :-( [wishlist for 1.2]



   To be able to combine timer and bracketing - now it only takes 1, not
3,
   photo when fired off the timer
 
 I don't see a purpose for this. Explain why this would be useful please.



 Give me one good reason why not.

I suppose because I couldn't see a reason for it.


 You want to do a tripod shot, using timer. At the same time you want to
 bracket. Whey should ou be limited?

I have used a self timer perhaps twice in 30 years of photography.
This is why I don't see an issue.

William Robb



Re: Question or better yet, idea

2004-01-09 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Bob W 
Subject: Re: Question or better yet, idea


 Hi,
 
  The new firmware fix gives you better than stop down metering.  It
  is a nice solution.
 
 I don't generally follow ist-d threads, so forgive me if I'm repeating
 something, or if I've missed something about the ist-d.
 
 It sounds to me like a solution to a problem that shouldn't exist anyway.
 In other words, a kludge.

The camera came with a kludge way of using non A lenses.
The firmware upgrade takes most of this away.

William Robb



Re: firmware update

2004-01-09 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: firmware update


 Does this mean that future Pentax DSLRs may fully support
 K/M lenses for a while? Rhetorical.

I still hope so. I doubt if I would buy another digital SLR unless it does
offer full K/M support.
OTOH, I doubted if I would buy an ist D.
I think I was the one that called it a one legged whore or some such.

William Robb



Re: FS Friday: 50mm f/1.4

2004-01-09 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Rothman, Aric
Subject: RE: FS Friday: 50mm f/1.4


 William,

 Thanks for the info.  I wended my way back through recent messages and
found the details.  The ist-D keeps looking
 better and better.  I really enjoyed working with it at the store.  The
problem is, Pentax lenses seem hard to come by,
 at least here in the US.  Does Pentax have a greater presence elsewhere?
I am planning a trip to Europe this year, and
 would love to go on a Pentax glass shopping spree.  Local camera
store/shows don't often have Pentax-made lenses, just
 the third party stuff.

I tend to use either eBay or KEH.

William Robb



Re: For sale Friday

2004-01-09 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: For sale Friday


 A couple of interesting flashes:
 
 Cokin Creative Flash
 
 Sunpak 120J Bare Bulb kit

 Have any of you ever used a bare bulb strobe? I know Greywolf has a
Norman,
 but that doesn't count. I once had a Vivitar 5600 with bare bulb head, was
 obsessed with the idea of fill-in for ultrawides, but never got down 
dirty with
 it. Besides, iirc, the Vivitar's output was puny.

I have used bare bulb with my Photogenics for interiors. Worked quite well.

William Robb



Re: Rain Picture

2004-01-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nice shot, Shel. I like the framing and compositionh. Was it actually 
raining or had it stopped? Did you ask permission? She seems to be 
quite aware of you.
On Jan 9, 2004, at 6:43 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Just a quick grab shot taken earlier today ... comments welcome

http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/paper.html




Missing Clear Plastic Piece on Pentax FA Lens

2004-01-09 Thread Greg Lovern
If the clear plastic piece that covers the numbers on a Pentax FA lens is
missing, is that an indication that it was probably dropped hard enough
that it might be optically compromised, or do those clear plastic pieces
sometimes fall off on their own? Or...?

Should I be concerned about a Pentax FA lens that is missing that piece?

Thanks,

Greg



Some *istD questions

2004-01-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
I know that the *istD has a raw file option. Does the PhotoShop CS 
(PS8) RAW converter support the Pentax files? I assume Pentax has a RAW 
converter. Does it offer different file size options? Is the Pentax 
sensor a CMOS or a CCD? I'm sure all these topics have been covered 
here, but I wasn't interested until the K lens compatibility came 
along.



RE: Missing Clear Plastic Piece on Pentax FA Lens

2004-01-09 Thread Alan Chan
That piece of plastic (so to the FA* lenses' metal frame) is held by a piece 
of high strength double-sided tape. It can peel itself off sometimes, 
although rare for non-FA* lenses. If the lens itself is free from any dent, 
it should be safe.

Regards,
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
If the clear plastic piece that covers the numbers on a Pentax FA lens is
missing, is that an indication that it was probably dropped hard enough
that it might be optically compromised, or do those clear plastic pieces
sometimes fall off on their own? Or...?
Should I be concerned about a Pentax FA lens that is missing that piece?
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Re: A couple of istD questions

2004-01-09 Thread Rob Studdert
On 9 Jan 2004 at 19:58, Herb Chong wrote:

 the DPreview site suggested the other way around.

A guy I know well (me) tested it and came to the the exact opposite conclusion 
reached by DPReview. I don't know what they did wrong, Darios tests also 
highlighted the problems with the Pentax RAW convertor. The Genzo RAW convertor 
did a very similar job to the in camera JPG/TIFF WRT edge smoothing but the 
colour is more difficult to control plus the interface is much worse than the 
Pentax software (which is bad to start with).

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RE: digital imaging question

2004-01-09 Thread Rob Studdert
On 9 Jan 2004 at 14:05, J. C. O'Connell wrote:

 I do that too, but I am talking about when you
 capture/scan the original. Not what you do to
 it afterward.

Try to modify the contrast in order to stretch the histogram in the scanner 
software or camera. If this is not possible then bias the exposure towards the 
right of the histogram (almost saturate) as you'll likely end up with less 
noise in your shadows when you adjust levels.

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Re: Speaking of the moon...

2004-01-09 Thread Rob Studdert
On 9 Jan 2004 at 18:53, Amita Guha wrote:

 I have been alerted that the moon is huge and orange tonight. I'm
 waiting for it to rise to where I can see it so I can shoot it. Did
 someone mention having an extra 1.4x converter for sale? :)

Hi Amita,

Generally the moon doesn't change colour, the cheese is a constant :-) That 
said local atmospheric pollutants do effect the apparent colour, we have bush-
fires in Sydney at the moment and the moon is a deep orange.

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: File properties

2004-01-09 Thread Rob Studdert
On 9 Jan 2004 at 17:35, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:

 Not exactly true, at least in case of Photoshop. It preserves EXIF data 
 in saved files just PS must be version 7 or later. I don't know however 
 how these other programs do? 

PS7 doesn't pass the EXIF data intact, only some information is retained. PS7 
also doesn't recognize the imbedded AdobeRGB colour profile in the Pentax 
files. Maybe the Pentax EXIF data is a partially customized form although they 
do suggest compatibility with EXIF 2.21 (original documentation cites EXIF 2.2) 
in the documentation associated with the new firmware upgrade.

Rob Studdert
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Re: What would you do with a 24x36 digital chip?

2004-01-09 Thread Rob Studdert
On 9 Jan 2004 at 23:42, Dag T wrote:

 I agree, the cost of high quality silicon wafers per area has been 
 constant for decades.  More than doubling the area will increase the 
 prize, as well as the demand for calculating power, memory, speed etc.  
 It is in the professional prize range anyway, so why not based the FF 
 sensors on the 645 system.

I could not agree less on both counts. Silicon wafer growth has been constantly 
increasing in diameter as has purity and yield, silicon even as huge wafers is 
getting cheaper by the day.

Pentax would be fools for not implementing a 24x36 mm sensor in a 35mm camera, 
surely you'd expect that they'd fit a FF 645 sensor in a 645 body or are Pentax 
shooters that damned cheap? :-(

Rob Studdert
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Tel +61-2-9554-4110
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Re: Some *istD questions

2004-01-09 Thread Herb Chong
CS doesn't support PEF format. they are rumored to be supporting in an
update. RAW is fixed in size and the converter is also fixed in size. you
can't alter the image dimensions from RAW until it is in an image editing
program.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 9:18 PM
Subject: Some *istD questions


 I know that the *istD has a raw file option. Does the PhotoShop CS
 (PS8) RAW converter support the Pentax files? I assume Pentax has a RAW
 converter. Does it offer different file size options? Is the Pentax
 sensor a CMOS or a CCD? I'm sure all these topics have been covered
 here, but I wasn't interested until the K lens compatibility came
 along.






Re: Rain Picture

2004-01-09 Thread Rob Studdert
On 9 Jan 2004 at 15:43, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

 Just a quick grab shot taken earlier today ... comments welcome
 
 http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/paper.html

Hi Shel,

Nice shot, but I thought that you were after rain not wet?

Cheers,


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Re: Rain Picture

2004-01-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Paul ...

I think it was drizzling a bit, but the heavy rain had
stopped for a while.  No permission ... sometimes
y'just gotta grab the shot.  I got of three shots with
the Sony, one of her pulling the paper from the box,
and one when she was much closer to me.
This was the best of the three.

I did a bit of cropping as there was no time to crop
in the camera.  Mostly I just trimmed some of the
space around the newspaper boxes and a little off
the top.

BTW, thanks for the car photo tips.

Paul Stenquist wrote:

 Nice shot, Shel. I like the framing and compositionh. Was it actually
 raining or had it stopped? Did you ask permission? She seems to be
 quite aware of you.

  Just a quick grab shot taken earlier today ... comments welcome
 
  http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/paper.html
 



Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?

2004-01-09 Thread Butch Black
There are a number of highly regarded lenses out there at reasonable prices,
especially if you don't need fast glass. I have a kit of a K 28/3.5, K
35/3.5 (almost flare proof), M 50/1.4, M 100/4.0 macro, M 135/3.5, M
200/4.0, and an FA 300/4.5 (another legendary lens, very sharp). Bodies are
a K 1000 and a Z-1p. Everything listed cost me less then $1000, actually
between $800-$900 IIRC. KEH has a very good reputation on the list as does
BH.

Butch

Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself.

Hermann Hesse (Demian)



Re: Firmware 1.1 good but not perfect :-( [wishlist for 1.2]

2004-01-09 Thread Rob Studdert
On 9 Jan 2004 at 19:38, William Robb wrote:

 I have used a self timer perhaps twice in 30 years of photography.
 This is why I don't see an issue.

I've used the self time for approximately half the shots I've made using the 
*ist D, however as soon as I purchase a cable release it'll be different.

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Re: Some *istD questions

2004-01-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Paul, CS doesn't yet support pentax RAW.  Pentax uses a CCD sensor.
Like you, I wasn't too interested in the istd until the new lenses could
readily be used.  Don't know about the RAW converter, though.

Paul Stenquist wrote:

 I know that the *istD has a raw file option. Does the PhotoShop CS
 (PS8) RAW converter support the Pentax files? I assume Pentax has a RAW
 converter. Does it offer different file size options? Is the Pentax
 sensor a CMOS or a CCD? I'm sure all these topics have been covered
 here, but I wasn't interested until the K lens compatibility came
 along.



Re: Rain Picture

2004-01-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I don't control the weather, Rob, nor can I tell
when and where people should appear LOL

Rob Studdert wrote:

 On 9 Jan 2004 at 15:43, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

  Just a quick grab shot taken earlier today ... comments welcome
 
  http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/paper.html

 Hi Shel,

 Nice shot, but I thought that you were after rain not wet?




Re: Used *istD prices (was: RE: firmware update)

2004-01-09 Thread Rob Studdert
On 9 Jan 2004 at 19:11, Cotty wrote:

 Okay, here's the prediction. Someone copy and paste this.
 
 Rough average 'going rate' on eBay for used Pentax *ist D(original), body
 only, in exc++ or mint- in January 2006:
 
 UK: £550
 US: $600

Not a great deal if they are still selling off old stock for US$650 new :-)

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Re: Rain Picture

2004-01-09 Thread Rob Studdert
On 9 Jan 2004 at 18:40, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

 I don't control the weather, Rob, nor can I tell
 when and where people should appear LOL

Sorry I mistakenly thought the pic was relative to the thread under which it 
was posted.

Cheers,

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Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?

2004-01-09 Thread Pentax
At 4:36 PM -0800 1/9/04, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Which 50/1.4 do you have?
The M. Just developed some pictures taken with it and am very pleased.

I'm not crazy about the K35/2.0 ... oh, it's a fine optic when stopped
down a bit, and i even like it wide open, but it's a little large for my
taste.  Much prefer the smaller size of the K35/3.5.  If you can find
one, the K30/2.8 is a great compromise between size and weight and
aperture, and, IMO, a better lens all around than the K35/2.0 ... since
I've gotten the 30mm I rarely use the 28 or either of the 35's.
I had read somewhere that the K 35/2 was one of the best of the 35's 
and that the M wasn't as good. I've never seen one so I don't know 
the size/weight difference. Not sure if I'd like the 30/2.8 as I 
don't really like 28's and I'd like something faster and less rare.

The K24/2.8 is another fine lens, although methinks it's a bit wide for
good street photography, but I guess that depends on your definition of
the practice and your shooting style.
I had a 28mm 3.5 and just didn't really like it very much. Not the 
lens quality so much as the perspective, sorta too wide or not wide 
enough. Total personal preference. So I thought the 24 might be more 
fun. I was just flipping through some photos I'd cut from the paper, 
sort of documentary style stuff and many of them were pretty wide 
angle. Also might be nice for indoor stuff like churches etc while 
traveling.

I'm going to keep my eye out for the 85 1.8.

Thanks for all the info.

Rob



OT: Back from Wellington

2004-01-09 Thread David Mann
Hi all,

I spent the past week in windy Wellington... I went up to see the final 
LoTR movie at the Embassy Theatre, and my partner went to accompany me to 
the film and do some research at the National Archives.

There was quite a bit of LoTR stuff in Wellington.  A few large models 
had been hung on buildings, and there were some good displays at the 
airport.  I was rather surprised by how much you can spend on merchandise 
if you were that way inclined.  The Embassy is beautiful - and they 
replaced all the seats at last.

I took a Pentax but since I haven't finished the film yet you'll have to 
wait for most of the pictures.  I ended up taking the K2 with 43mm 
Limited and 100mm macro lenses.  I didn't use them much as the weather 
was pretty bad most of the time.

However, I did take some pics with my Palm's built-in digital camera.
There's not much to see but you might find them interesting.
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/temp/welly/

I also did a bit of shopping; there should be some more news about that 
later in the week.  Put some beer in the fridge, Cotty ;)

Enjoy!

Cheers,

- Dave

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/




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