Re: New K1000 owner

2005-02-09 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Peter J. Alling wrote:

> The M lenses and older K lenses have no electronics, the A lenses allow
> aperture control from the
> camera, which allows program mode on any Pentax body and full aperture
> metering on the *ist-D and Ds.
> Which is the most important difference.  Before I bought a *ist-D I
> really didn't care about that feature. of the As.

Your K1000 cannot see the difference between K and A lenses. If you
put an A lens on the A position and fire the K1000 shutter it will
just use the minimum (highest number) aperture the lens supports. But
why do that :-)

Kostas



Re: Makin' some BIG prints

2005-02-09 Thread David Mann
On Feb 10, 2005, at 11:45 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Lately I've been taking advantage of my access to an Epson 7500 inkjet
at the store where I work and made some big prints.
I'm going to be ordering a decent-size print off a medium format scan 
soon.  I found a place locally that does fine-art printing at quite a 
reasonable price.

I've been thinking about getting one of my panoramas printed to 4 
metres long but I'm not going to unless someone else is paying for it 
:)

Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/


Re: Pentax *ist Ds Underwater housing

2005-02-09 Thread David Mann
On Feb 10, 2005, at 6:54 AM, Christian wrote:
Now you're being just silly. Of course it has a depth rating they just
have a very poor website.  And you'd be surprised at how many people 
are
willing to put their precious tools into a box and dunk it under water.
I know a guy who wrapped his Super-A in a plastic bag and took it 
underwater.

As you might expect, some salt water got in.  He thoroughly rinsed it 
in fresh water but in the end he had to pull it to bits to clean up the 
shutter blades as they'd rusted.

AFAIK that camera still works today.
Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/


Re: Someone on the list has a virus

2005-02-09 Thread Raimo K
Looks like there is indeed someone who has a virus - it got one such
mail, too - but thereĀ“s no way of telling from whom or where it came
from. I got it to my other address and it looked like it had come from
this list but it probably did not.
All the best!
Raimo K
personal photography homepage at:
http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho/


Quoting Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Just got an email with a virus sent to me. Because these things
> automatically forge their headers there's no way of knowing who it
> came
> from but the "From" line had one PDML member, the "return path" had
> another PDML member and the message body mentioned a third. So it's
> a
> good bet that it came from someone with all these email addresses
> on
> their computer (ie: a PDML member).
> The origination IP address belonged to Comcast so if you're a PDML'er
> on
> Comcast I'd suggest doing a virus scan ASAP. There's an excellent
> antivirus package that's *free* for personal use at
> http://www.avast.com
> 
> -- 
> Mark Roberts
> Photography and writing
> www.robertstech.com
> 
> 



PESO -- Replicator

2005-02-09 Thread Peter J. Alling
This appeared in front of the local library...
http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_replicator.html
Technical:
Pentax *ist-D iso 200 1/350sec
smc PENTAX-F 70-210mmF4-5.6
smc PENTAX-F 70-210mmF4-5.6 @ 70mm f4.0
--
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During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: Someone on the list has a virus

2005-02-09 Thread Gonz

Mark Roberts wrote:

The originating IP was 204.127.198.39 (comcast.net)
I've searched my most recent pdml emails, and the only comcast.net 
address comes from Paul Stenquist.  But the IP address does not match, 
not even close.

rg


Re: PESO - Kasey

2005-02-09 Thread Tom C
Dog shots don't typically do anything for me.  I do like the look of the 
shot however and must say that between yout processing and the lens, I'm 
impressed.

I've only recently become an appreciator of dogs with the two cattle dogs we 
have.  A Blue Heeler/Australian Shepherd mix and a Border Collie/Yellow Lab 
mix.

Tom C.

From: Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: Joseph Tainter 
Subject: Re: PESO - Kasey
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 19:15:16 -0800
Thanks Joe,
I sharpened it based on downsizing from the original.  I didn't do any
more sharpening for it than any other pic I take.  I think f5.6 isn't
too bad for that lens.
--
Best regards,
Bruce
Wednesday, February 9, 2005, 6:18:21 PM, you wrote:
JT> So that's what f5.6 looks like on the Tokina. Not bad. I'd been scared
JT> off from trying it. Perhaps I should. Did you sharpen it any, Bruce?
JT> Oh, nice picture too.
JT> Joe





Re: PESO - Old Cyclops

2005-02-09 Thread Tom C
Thanks to Rick, Frank, Cotty and all that enjoyed Old Cyclops.  Obviously 
not my typical kind of shot.

This made me think that a neat PUG theme would be "Dream Car" or "In Love 
with the Automobile".  Dream Car could be one where everyone shoots the 
picture of their ideal auto regardless of price, etc.

Mine would *probably* be a mid-sixties Jaguar XKE.  I would have a hard time 
deciding between the  convertible and the hardtop.  It would probably have 
to be white and right-hand drive.

Tom C.

From: Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO - Old Cyclops
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 15:13:54 -0800 (PST)
That is one beautiful shot of a beautifully kept old
car!  The styling of that period was... uhhh...
remarkable, no?
--- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was looking for something to include in the
> upcoming B&W PUG and have been
> longing to show this photo for around 11 years.
> Decided to make this one a
> PESO.
>
> This was originally taken on Velvia and was a very
> monochromatic image
> except for some blue and green from sky and trees
> reflected in the chrome.
> Scanned and converted to grayscale.
>
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3105267
>
> Tom C.
>
>
>
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RE: PESO - hair braiding

2005-02-09 Thread Butch Black
Nice idea but 2 negatives stand out.
First, The woman doing the braiding is too dark. I'm not sure that much 
could be done about that as it looks like she is more in the shadows then 
the light skinned woman getting the braiding done. Perhaps some fill flash 
may have helped if that was an option.

Second, the background is too busy for my liking. A shallower depth of field 
may have helped. I could not figure a different cropping that would have 
helped.

Also, it looks like the woman getting her hair braided is slightly out of 
focus.

Butch 




Re: Digital portrait lens

2005-02-09 Thread Fred
> I find that I use the Vivitar S1 35-85 2.8 Varifocal as a walking around
> lens in the "normal" to "portrait" lens.  Results are very good.  I'd be
> happier if it had A contacts, but we work with what we have.

Well, I guess if you don't mind putting up with the "varifocal" focusing,
pressing the extra function button on the D/DS is not much of an extra
pain, either.  (Just kidding you - I also really like this lens, although
I've used it only on K-mount film bodies.)

Fred




Re: Experience with Super A/Program?

2005-02-09 Thread Fred
> 20-30 years ago someone made a battery compartment adapter, which allowed
> the user to keep the battery in the pocket, connected to the camera with
> a power cord. I haven't seen these in a long time. Have you?

Here's the Pentax one for the LX -
http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/lxrmtcrd.jpg

Fred




Re: PAW PESO - Trombone

2005-02-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Bruce ... Thanks. It was a fun afternoon listening to the music,
photographing, and chatting with the trombonist's wife and friend.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: Bruce Dayton 

> I like the framing and selective focus on this.  The Bell jumps right
> out at you and makes the scene much more interesting.  Quite often,
> shots that involve people don't have as much interest when you don't
> know the subjects.  But a shot like this makes it so we don't know or
> care who the subject is, but holds our attention just the same.
>
> Nice work.
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bruce
>
>
> Tuesday, February 8, 2005, 12:24:08 PM, you wrote:
>
> SB> Frank's pic of the trumpet player reminded me of a photo of a
trombonist.
> SB> This guy's a member of a jazz band comprised of older, retired guys
who
> SB> play various venues around the Bay Area, mostly outdoors and off the
back
> SB> of their old, restored truck.  Here's the trombonist:  
>
> SB> http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/trombone.html
>
> SB> and a quick snap of the whole gang:
>
> SB> http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/group.html
>
>
> SB> Shel 
>
>
>
>




Re: PESO: Through a Zurich restaurant window

2005-02-09 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 21:10:05 +1300, David Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I just mowed my lawn with an old steel push-mower.  One that doesn't
> have a motor.

That's a good thing.  Lawnmowers and other two stroke gas engines are
significant polluters, as for the most part, they have no pollution
control devices.  I heard several years ago that up to 10% of all air
pollution comes from such engines, an astounding amount considering
how few of them there are compared to cars and trucks.  Push-mowers
rock.
> 
> Good way to strengthen your back (or break it).

Don't talk to me of backs.  I just spent two days off work with
lower-back spasms.  Not much fun...
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> - Dave (my bike is aluminium, just like my back)

Despite my love of steel frames, my bike too, is aluminium:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3092465&size=lg

Which you can't really tell under all that snow.

cheers,
frank
 


-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Experience with Super A/Program?

2005-02-09 Thread Fred
> On the Super Program,
> Get a remote battery pack, a small thing on the end of a cable.
> In real cold weather the LCD's start to fade.
> Then it's time to slip the camera back into your jacket to warm-up.

[Hi, Bob.]  I'd just add to this that it's worth slipping the camera first
into a plastic bag and then slipping it into your coat to warm up.  A cold
camera under a body-warmed and "body-humidified" coat is asking for a lot
of condensation to settle on that cold camera body - .

Fred




Unsubbing for the weekend :)

2005-02-09 Thread David Chang-Sang
You guys are SO active that I need to UnSub for the weekend whilst away in
New York City :)

B&H ... here I come :D

Play nice,
Dave




Re: New Friend

2005-02-09 Thread Fred
> I tried Mark's 43 Limited on my MX a while back, and there may be no
> better SLR/lens combo (aesthetically, that is) anywhere, ever.

I dunno 'bout that - I'd vote for a K 85/1.8 on an LX.

Fred




Re: teleconverters

2005-02-09 Thread Fred
> the L teleconverters work on a very limited number of lenses. the 2X-L 
> protrudes almost an inch in front of the mount and the 1.4X-L a little more.

In case anyone is interested in fitting an "L" TC to his/her favorite lens,
and would like to know it it has a chance of working before buying, here
are some measured dimensions:

The 2X-L's protruding front element extends 17.0 mm beyond the mounting
flange, and has a diameter of 31.5 mm for most of its length, but widens to
33.0 mm for the final 4.0 mm portion closest to the plane of the flange.
(For simplicity, you could more simply say that it extends 17.0 mm beyond
the mounting flange, and has a diameter of 33.0 mm.)

The otherwise smaller 1.4X-L TC actually has a larger protrusion, extending
21.0 mm beyond the plane of the mounting flange, with a width of 35.5 mm
throughout the protrusion.

Fred




Re: Lens Bargains ...

2005-02-09 Thread Fred
> From the description of the "problem" I don't think it needs to be
> fixed, my 85mm M had the stiffest focusing of any lens I've owned when I
> acquired it, (a like new in a box used lens  that has subsequently lost
> much of it's collectors item status, in other words I've beat it to
> hell).  Over the last few  years it's become much easier to focus.  I've
> noticed this happen with most of the manual focusing lenses I've owned,
> the 85-M  was just the most pronounced.

That's interesting, Peter.  The M 85/2 that I used to own was bought as a
used lens, although it was truly in mint condition.  But, unlike what you
describe, it did focus fairly easily - I do not remember any stiffness.  On
the other hand:

1.  It was not new, and may have been focused quite a large number of times
by someone who took very good care of it.

2.  My memory may be faulty.  (However, if had been ~quite~ stiff, I really
think I'd've remembered that.)

I certainly do agree that most well-used lenses do get ~somewhat~ easier to
turn the focus ring on over time.  (I'm tempted to say that this is true
about only the best lenses, but I guess those are just the ones that get
focused the most often - .)

Fred




Re: Lens Bargains ...

2005-02-09 Thread Peter J. Alling
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
$60.00 for an M85/2, I think I hate you... A lot.

I also have an M85/2 that I bought for $60 or so, but has a
somewhat stiff focusing ring. The optics are perfect and it
works well, I like its rendering qualities too. I asked about
having it cleaned and lubed, they quoted 1.5 hours (about $120
at their rates). Do you think it's worth it, or should I just
put up with the stiff focusing?
Godfrey
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Re: Just so you don't think we are the only silly ones.....

2005-02-09 Thread Peter J. Alling
Well, yes that is very silly, very silly indeed.
William Robb wrote:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1031&message=12155191
William Robb


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During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: New K1000 owner

2005-02-09 Thread Peter J. Alling
The M lenses and older K lenses have no electronics, the A lenses allow 
aperture control from the
camera, which allows program mode on any Pentax body and full aperture 
metering on the *ist-D and Ds.
Which is the most important difference.  Before I bought a *ist-D I 
really didn't care about that feature. of the As.

Isaac wrote:
Fair enough. However, I was wondering what the differences in general
between the two lines is. I see both of them for sale, but I have no clue
why one would be preferable. Any insight would be appreciated.
-Original Message-
From: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 8:06 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: New K1000 owner

There is no A 135mm f3.5
Isaac wrote:
 

I've thought about it, but I'm not sure about the extra weight. It may be a
good trade off though. You say a M. What is the difference between that and
the A?
-Original Message-
From: Thibouille [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 1:27 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: New K1000 owner

Why not a couple primes? You'll get beter overall quality and they are
brighter.
Of course you'll have to carry them all.
A SMC Pentax-M 135mm 3.5 is a very good lens and is VERY cheap.
I have a KX (higher end version of the K1000). I can tell you you will
love this camera. I even listen to mine as much as I want when no film
inside. Just because I LOVE the noise it does :)

Thibouille


   


 


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During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: Lens Bargains ...

2005-02-09 Thread Peter J. Alling
From the description of the "problem" I don't think it needs to be 
fixed, my 85mm M had the stiffest focusing of
any lens I've owned when I acquired it, (a like new in a box used lens 
that has subsequently lost much of it's collectors
item status, in other words I've beat it to hell).  Over the last few 
years it's become much easier to focus.  I've noticed
this happen with most of the manual focusing lenses I've owned, the 85-M 
was just the most pronounced.

Fred wrote:
I also have an M85/2 that I bought for $60 or so, but has a somewhat
stiff focusing ring. The optics are perfect and it works well, I like its
rendering qualities too. I asked about having it cleaned and lubed, they
quoted 1.5 hours (about $120 at their rates). Do you think it's worth it,
or should I just put up with the stiff focusing?
   

That's a pretty subjective question.  I don't think I'd've bought it to
start with, since focus feel is so important to me (YMMV).  However, the M
85/2 can be a fun portrait lens to use, and (if it gets fixed properly) at
a total cost of $180, it's a decent deal, I guess.
Fred

 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: PESO - hair braiding

2005-02-09 Thread Keith Whaley

William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley"
Subject: Re: PESO - hair braiding
And what is in that bag hanging to the left of the braider?

Yeah, that was MY question, too...but I couldn't imagine a scenario to 
require "just one!"
Maybe I'd rather not know?

Maybe it's in case you need three?
William Robb
Install between the shoulder blades and a LOT more guys will get up and 
dance!  

keith


Query re: Solar (Burke & James) photo enlarger

2005-02-09 Thread Stan Halpin
A friend emailed to ask me if I know anything about this enlarger. I 
don't. She refers to it as an antique, says she has all (?) of the 
parts.

Can any of you enlighten me?
The second part of her question is:
" Is there anyone or anyplace that might be
interested in something like this or should I throw it away? I could 
take
pictures and send to anyone who is interested."

Stan


Re: PESO - hair braiding

2005-02-09 Thread Badri A
well it's a mannequin wearing the red hat alright :)

and there are two posters tacked up on the cloth below the mannequin,
which also seem to be advertisements for the braided-hair look.. I
guess that makes it three?

Thanks for the comments!
Badri

> > Yeah, that was MY question, too...but I couldn't imagine a scenario
> > to require "just one!"
> > Maybe I'd rather not know?
> >
> 
> Maybe it's in case you need three?



Re: PESO - hair braiding

2005-02-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: "Keith Whaley"
Subject: Re: PESO - hair braiding


And what is in that bag hanging to the left of the braider?
Yeah, that was MY question, too...but I couldn't imagine a scenario 
to require "just one!"
Maybe I'd rather not know?

Maybe it's in case you need three?
William Robb 




Re: PAW PESO - Trombone

2005-02-09 Thread Keith Whaley
Neat!
keith
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
They sound pretty good - and it's clear that they're having fun.  Sometimes
I'll take my digicam and record notes for a scene or a short movie.  Had I
done that this time I could have put the movie up and you could have heard
them.
Shel 


[Original Message]
From: Keith Whaley 
The heck with the pictures... I'd love to HEAR them!  
What a team!

keith



Re: PESO - Kasey

2005-02-09 Thread Bruce Dayton
Thanks Joe,

I sharpened it based on downsizing from the original.  I didn't do any
more sharpening for it than any other pic I take.  I think f5.6 isn't
too bad for that lens.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Wednesday, February 9, 2005, 6:18:21 PM, you wrote:

JT> So that's what f5.6 looks like on the Tokina. Not bad. I'd been scared
JT> off from trying it. Perhaps I should. Did you sharpen it any, Bruce?

JT> Oh, nice picture too.

JT> Joe






Re: PESO - hair braiding

2005-02-09 Thread Keith Whaley

William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: "Badri A"
Subject: PESO - hair braiding

Hi,
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3106149
A street shot from Curacao, a small island in the Caribbean I had been
to last week.  This is a stall in the weekend market (a completely
touristy affair) in Willemstad, the capital.
Since this is my first PESO I'd really appreciate your input and 
comments.

Well, it's certainly colourful.
Some unanswered questions arise:
Is that a mannequin wearing that red hat?
And what is in that bag hanging to the left of the braider?
Yeah, that was MY question, too...but I couldn't imagine a scenario to 
require "just one!"
Maybe I'd rather not know?

keith
William Robb



Re: PAW PESO - Trombone

2005-02-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
They sound pretty good - and it's clear that they're having fun.  Sometimes
I'll take my digicam and record notes for a scene or a short movie.  Had I
done that this time I could have put the movie up and you could have heard
them.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: Keith Whaley 
> The heck with the pictures... I'd love to HEAR them!  
> What a team!
>
> keith
>
> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>
> > Frank's pic of the trumpet player reminded me of a photo of a
trombonist. 
> > This guy's a member of a jazz band comprised of older, retired guys who
> > play various venues around the Bay Area, mostly outdoors and off the
back
> > of their old, restored truck.  Here's the trombonist:  
> > 
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/trombone.html
> > 
> > and a quick snap of the whole gang:
> > 
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/group.html
> > 
> > 
> > Shel 




Re: Makin' some BIG prints

2005-02-09 Thread Mark Roberts
"Ryan Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Not sure it's my iffy connection, but I couldn't load the page Mark..

Try again but be advised that some Australian networks are blocked from
accessing my web site because my host was subject to a DOS attack from
Australia and the admins at whatever network it was basically told my
web host's owner to fsck off when he asked them to do something about it
:(

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: PESO - Kasey

2005-02-09 Thread Peter J. Alling
All I can say is Awww.
Bruce Dayton wrote:
Change of pace for me.  When I got the new Tokina ATX 400/5.6 AF lens
in, I was doing some tests.  I thought I would see how the AF works
and so went outside with the family dog.  He was walking along the
sidewalk (not too fast) and it seemed like a good target to test with.
Pentax *istD, Tokina ATX 400/5.6 AF, handheld,
ISO 800, Continuos AF, Center Spot AF, Aperture Priority,
1/750 sec @ 5.6.
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_1067.htm
The image was convert to Tiff in C1 and level were adjusted in
PictureWindow Pro.  Then downsized to jpg and sharpened for the web.
Bruce
P.S. If you want to know - Bichon Frise is the breed.

 


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During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: PESO - hair braiding

2005-02-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: "Badri A"
Subject: PESO - hair braiding


Hi,
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3106149
A street shot from Curacao, a small island in the Caribbean I had 
been
to last week.  This is a stall in the weekend market (a completely
touristy affair) in Willemstad, the capital.

Since this is my first PESO I'd really appreciate your input and 
comments.
Well, it's certainly colourful.
Some unanswered questions arise:
Is that a mannequin wearing that red hat?
And what is in that bag hanging to the left of the braider?
William Robb 




RE: New K1000 owner

2005-02-09 Thread Isaac
Fair enough. However, I was wondering what the differences in general
between the two lines is. I see both of them for sale, but I have no clue
why one would be preferable. Any insight would be appreciated.

-Original Message-
From: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 8:06 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: New K1000 owner

There is no A 135mm f3.5

Isaac wrote:

>I've thought about it, but I'm not sure about the extra weight. It may be a
>good trade off though. You say a M. What is the difference between that and
>the A?
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Thibouille [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 1:27 PM
>To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
>Subject: Re: New K1000 owner
>
>Why not a couple primes? You'll get beter overall quality and they are
>brighter.
>Of course you'll have to carry them all.
>A SMC Pentax-M 135mm 3.5 is a very good lens and is VERY cheap.
>
>I have a KX (higher end version of the K1000). I can tell you you will
>love this camera. I even listen to mine as much as I want when no film
>inside. Just because I LOVE the noise it does :)
>
>Thibouille
>
>
>
>
>  
>


-- 
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during
peacetime.
--P.J. O'Rourke






Re: When will we get image stabilisation for Pentax DSLR?

2005-02-09 Thread Peter J. Alling
Image size tracking is about the only feature that I think is worth 
anything, and it doesn't work particularly
well from my small experience with it.

John Whittingham wrote:
What do you mean by "fully" supported? Power zoom appears to work on 
my MZ-S. Are there some features I'm missing 
   

FWIW image-size tracking, zoom clip, zoom effect are missing.
John
-- Original Message ---
From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 16:19:37 -0500
Subject: Re: When will we get image stabilisation for Pentax DSLR?
 

"Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
   

No there are no power contacts in the *ist-D or Ds, but that's not why 
it's crippled.  It's crippled because
there's no aperture simulator lever.  Power zoom hasn't been fully 
supported since the z/pz-1p.
 

What do you mean by "fully" supported? Power zoom appears to work on 
my MZ-S. Are there some features I'm missing (not that I'd notice -
I don't use power zoom).

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Photography and writing
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Re: New K1000 owner

2005-02-09 Thread Peter J. Alling
There is no A 135mm f3.5
Isaac wrote:
I've thought about it, but I'm not sure about the extra weight. It may be a
good trade off though. You say a M. What is the difference between that and
the A?
-Original Message-
From: Thibouille [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 1:27 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: New K1000 owner

Why not a couple primes? You'll get beter overall quality and they are
brighter.
Of course you'll have to carry them all.
A SMC Pentax-M 135mm 3.5 is a very good lens and is VERY cheap.
I have a KX (higher end version of the K1000). I can tell you you will
love this camera. I even listen to mine as much as I want when no film
inside. Just because I LOVE the noise it does :)

Thibouille

 


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Re: New K1000 owner

2005-02-09 Thread Peter J. Alling
It's almost impossible to use a lens and not get some dust onto the 
internal elements.

Isaac wrote:
I do plan  to get a 28mm eventually. The reason I want a telephoto first is
there are some pictures that I would like to take from the side of the road.
I would really hate to get arrested for trespassing. :-) BTW, I see that keh
has some very nice prices, but that they say a lense in excellent condition
may have some dust. Is this normal? Will it affect the picture quality any?
-Original Message-
From: Jon M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 1:54 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: New K1000 owner

Hi! Welcome to the madness that is this list. :)
I bought a Sears 80-200/4 from a friend for $20, it's
not been bad for such a cheap lens. Local shops seem
to have the same lens around $40-$50. If you want
something likely better, check out the SMC Pentax-A
70-210/4. 

If you'd rather have some primes, look into a 100mm or
135mm and 200mm. 

I bought from a list member a SMC Pentax-M 135/3.5
that I've lately considered selling, though it has a
couple minor issues. It only focuses out to about
75-100 feet and the hood tends to not stay put. These
are probably fixable... the hood is no big deal, and I
only noticed the focus issue when taking pictures of
boats out on the water.
Pick up a 28mm or so wide angle if you come across
one. I have a SMC Pentax-M 28/3.5 I've been very happy
with. I've found wide angle lenses to be more fun than
telephoto. 

-Jon Myers.
--- Isaac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

Hello all. I just got me a K1000 from a pawn shop
with the standard 50mm
lenses. It seems to work fine. My question though is
about lenses. I'm
looking for a decent zoom. I'm thinking 70-210 or
thereabouts. Any
suggestions? I'm looking to keep it under $100 if
possible. I can go higher
if needed. 

   


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Re: When will we get image stabilisation for Pentax DSLR?

2005-02-09 Thread Peter J. Alling
I didn't say it wasn't supported I said it wasn't fully supported.  I 
think power zoom itself is a gimmicky feature.

John Whittingham wrote:
It's missing some of the more advanced (gimmicky) features, power zoom EVEN 
works on the MZ-3/-5n

John

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From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 16:19:37 -0500
Subject: Re: When will we get image stabilisation for Pentax DSLR?
 

"Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
   

No there are no power contacts in the *ist-D or Ds, but that's not why 
it's crippled.  It's crippled because
there's no aperture simulator lever.  Power zoom hasn't been fully 
supported since the z/pz-1p.
 

What do you mean by "fully" supported? Power zoom appears to work on 
my MZ-S. Are there some features I'm missing (not that I'd notice -
I don't use power zoom).

--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com
   

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Re: Lens Bargains ...

2005-02-09 Thread Fred
> They had an SMC Pentax-A 50mm f/2.8 Macro. External finish a little rough
> (KEH would likely call it "ugly", "bargain" at least) but the optics are
> perfectly clean, no dust, the aperture mechanism worked perfectly, the
> focusing mount is smooth as a new lens. I recalled seeing several M50/4
> macro lenses in "Bargain" condition going for around $110 or so. They
> offered this one to me at $130, with Pentax caps.

At $130, it's a good, deal, I'd say, ~IF~ indeed the only problem is the
cosmetics.  The A 50/2.8 is a solid step up from the M 50/4, and not just
in speed.  The A 50/2.8 is just a wee tad less sharp than the F/FA
50/2.8's, but it's ~so~ much nicer to use.

The A 50/2.8 is my most frequently used 50mm lens.  (Actually, it's used
somewhat ~infrequently~ - I am more likely to shoot macros with the A
100/2.8 Macro, if lens size is no object, but sometimes the compact 50/2.8
Macro gets the nod before an outing - still, the other non-macro 50's get
used relatively even less often.)

Fred






Re: Lens Bargains ...

2005-02-09 Thread Fred
> I also have an M85/2 that I bought for $60 or so, but has a somewhat
> stiff focusing ring. The optics are perfect and it works well, I like its
> rendering qualities too. I asked about having it cleaned and lubed, they
> quoted 1.5 hours (about $120 at their rates). Do you think it's worth it,
> or should I just put up with the stiff focusing?

That's a pretty subjective question.  I don't think I'd've bought it to
start with, since focus feel is so important to me (YMMV).  However, the M
85/2 can be a fun portrait lens to use, and (if it gets fixed properly) at
a total cost of $180, it's a decent deal, I guess.

Fred




Re: test

2005-02-09 Thread Peter J. Alling
It showed up.
Bob Blakely wrote:
I've sent two posts to the list well before this "test". They still 
haven't shown up.

Hell, this post may not show up. (Who'd I write THAT too?)
Regards,
Bob...
From: "David Zaninovic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

fail
From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
test




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Re: Pentax *ist Ds Underwater housing

2005-02-09 Thread Joseph Tainter
Autofocus only? Keep in mind the poor low-light autofocus of the D and 
DS. Is there an external flash that could give autofocus assist?

My introduction to 35 mm. photography was a Nikonos II, received for 
Christmas in 1966 when I was 16. I still have it somewhere.

Joe


Re: Pentax Photo Laboratory 2.1 Quick Test

2005-02-09 Thread Rob Studdert
On 9 Feb 2005 at 17:33, Gianfranco Irlanda wrote:

> It seems that the problems related to the edge sharpening
> artifacts are almost completely gone.

It definitely looks better, I would have liked to do a comparison with the PS 
CS RAW convertor however I can't use Pentax PhotoLab to convert RAW since I 
upgraded to the latest version :-(

Cheers,


Rob Studdert
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Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
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Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: With Another Couple of PESOs...

2005-02-09 Thread Joseph Tainter
> Very, nice the shot in the air is spectacular, but the one on the 
ground has "personality".
> >

Well put, Peter!
Both are wonderful photos.
cheers,
frank
---
Thanks, Frank, Peter, and Rob (who contacted me personally).
Joe


Re: Someone on the list has a virus

2005-02-09 Thread Joseph Tainter
It's not the "lens lust" virus, is it?
So that's where I got it.
Joe


Re: PESO - Kasey

2005-02-09 Thread Joseph Tainter
So that's what f5.6 looks like on the Tokina. Not bad. I'd been scared 
off from trying it. Perhaps I should. Did you sharpen it any, Bruce?

Oh, nice picture too.
Joe


RE: Just so you don't think we are the only silly ones.....

2005-02-09 Thread Joseph Tainter
"OH - HOW JUVENILE AND SOPHOMORIC!"
Yes. Don't you love it?
His self portrait is the best part.
Way ta go, Wheatfield.
Joe


PESO - hair braiding

2005-02-09 Thread Badri A
Hi, 

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3106149

A street shot from Curacao, a small island in the Caribbean I had been
to last week.  This is a stall in the weekend market (a completely
touristy affair) in Willemstad, the capital.

Since this is my first PESO I'd really appreciate your input and comments. 
Thanks
Badri



RE: Just so you don't think we are the only silly ones.....

2005-02-09 Thread Tom C
OH - HOW JUVENILE AND SOPHOMORIC!
Tom C.

From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: "Pentax Discuss" 
Subject: Just so you don't think we are the only silly ones.
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 18:43:04 -0600
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1031&message=12155191
William Robb




Pentax Photo Laboratory 2.1 Quick Test

2005-02-09 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Hi everybody,

I've just posted a rough test comparing the old version (1.11)
to the recent update 2.1:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3106108

(the 2.1 conversion is on the right, of course...)
Both pictures - from the same PEF file - have the same
sharpening (+3), other settings may differ slightly (I did
change the WB on the new image via the new colour temperature
tuning). The file was converted into a 8 bit tiff in both cases.

It seems that the problems related to the edge sharpening
artifacts are almost completely gone.

Ciao,

Gianfranco
(who thinks will shoot more in RAW from now on...)

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Re: PESO - Old Cyclops

2005-02-09 Thread Tom C
It's possibly the lighting.  It was a fairly overcast day and was in late 
afternoon.  The color version is a little more lustrous.

Tom C.

From: "Ryan Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: 
Subject: Re: PESO - Old Cyclops
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:14:58 +1000
I somehow feel the chrome seems to lack some lustre. Thoughts?
Cheers,
Ryan
- Original Message -
From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 4:24 AM
Subject: PESO - Old Cyclops
> I was looking for something to include in the upcoming B&W PUG and have
been
> longing to show this photo for around 11 years.  Decided to make this 
one
a
> PESO.
>
> This was originally taken on Velvia and was a very monochromatic image
> except for some blue and green from sky and trees reflected in the 
chrome.
> Scanned and converted to grayscale.
>
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3105267
>
> Tom C.
>
>
>





Re: Forgotten Tree

2005-02-09 Thread Ryan Lee
Nice portrait of a very interesting tree Thibs. I'm always looking for new
ways to look at trees, and this one seems refreshing despite how obvious it
is. I do, however, feel the the bokeh is particularly ugly in the top left
corner. Nice shot, keep the tree shots coming!

Cheers,
Ryan


- Original Message - 
From: "Thibouille" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 4:17 AM
Subject: PESO: Forgotten Tree


> OK, that's my first neg scan with my Epson 2480 Photo so please be
indulgent.
> Taken with my KX and SMC 55mm 1.8 on FP4+.
>
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3105252
>
> Any comments welcome.
> 
> Thibouille
>
>




Re: PESO - Old Cyclops

2005-02-09 Thread Ryan Lee
I somehow feel the chrome seems to lack some lustre. Thoughts?

Cheers,
Ryan


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 4:24 AM
Subject: PESO - Old Cyclops


> I was looking for something to include in the upcoming B&W PUG and have
been
> longing to show this photo for around 11 years.  Decided to make this one
a
> PESO.
>
> This was originally taken on Velvia and was a very monochromatic image
> except for some blue and green from sky and trees reflected in the chrome.
> Scanned and converted to grayscale.
>
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3105267
>
> Tom C.
>
>
>




Re: Makin' some BIG prints

2005-02-09 Thread Ryan Lee
Not sure it's my iffy connection, but I couldn't load the page Mark..

Cheers,
Ryan


- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 8:45 AM
Subject: Makin' some BIG prints


> Lately I've been taking advantage of my access to an Epson 7500 inkjet
> at the store where I work and made some big prints. Done a few 18 x 24
> inch prints and been impressed with the quality. A couple of days ago I
> went whole hog and ran off a 24 x 36 inch print. It's an entirely
> different experience from doing "normal" size prints. Imperfections that
> don't show up at 12 x 18 are obvious when you get to double those
> dimensions! Obviously, only the best, sharpest images have any hope of
> standing up to this amount of magnification and ideally you'd want to be
> shooting medium format also. Still, with top-notch glass and good
> technique, it's amazing what 35mm can achieve.
> 
> I'll bring a couple to GFM in June :)
> The image I printed Monday is this one:
> http://www.robertstech.com/graphics/pages/7d303108.htm
> MZ-S, FA*24/2.0, Kodak E100VS
> 
> 
> -- 
> Mark Roberts
> Photography and writing
> www.robertstech.com
> 
> 



Re: PESO Country hotel

2005-02-09 Thread Bob Sullivan
I like the tired body language with her cheek resting on the bed.  I
like the feet tangled together trying to unwind.  I like the stuffed
animal next to her on the bed.  And the lighting is very nice.  Looks
like a good end to a 2.5 hour trip.
Regards,  Bob S.


On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 11:07:31 +1000, Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Team,
> 
> Still busy lately however I've another PESO shot last weekend at the end of a 
> 2.5hr journey:
> 
> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/IMGP0489.jpg (~170kB)
> 
> Tech: *ist D, ISO800, 1/60s, Prog, Multi-seg metering, 77LTD @ f2.5, hand held
> 
> All comments and questions welcome.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Rob Studdert
> HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
> Tel +61-2-9554-4110
> UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
> Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
> 
>



Re: PESO: Forgotten Tree

2005-02-09 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 19:17:10 +0100, Thibouille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK, that's my first neg scan with my Epson 2480 Photo so please be indulgent.
> Taken with my KX and SMC 55mm 1.8 on FP4+.
> 
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3105252
> 
> Any comments welcome.
> 
> Thibouille
> 

I like the photo - nice greytones, nice detail. lovely OOF bits in the
background.

I'll make the same comment I've made to a few others lately.  I find
it really difficult to view a photo that I have to scroll up and down
to see.  A vertical image should really be no longer than 650 pixels
if it's to fit on a screen, IMHO.  I can only see about 1/2 of it at a
time on my screen.

Other than that, I like it a lot.

cheers,
frank


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Re: Lens Bargains ...

2005-02-09 Thread Jon M
I think you should send that M85 my way. ;)

-Jon Myers.

--- Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I happened by the camera shop at lunch time to pick
> up the
> replacement strap I'd ordered for one of my Domke
> bags (buggers
> screwed up and sent the wrong one.. ) so I took a
> browse past
> the used equipment counter. 
> 
> They had an SMC Pentax-A 50mm f/2.8 Macro. External
> finish a
> little rough (KEH would likely call it "ugly",
> "bargain" at
> least) but the optics are perfectly clean, no dust,
> the aperture
> mechanism worked perfectly, the focusing mount is
> smooth as a
> new lens. I recalled seeing several M50/4 macro
> lenses in
> "Bargain" condition going for around $110 or so.
> They offered
> this one to me at $130, with Pentax caps. 
> 
> What do you think? Is this a bargain? ;-)
> 
> I also have an M85/2 that I bought for $60 or so,
> but has a
> somewhat stiff focusing ring. The optics are perfect
> and it
> works well, I like its rendering qualities too. I
> asked about
> having it cleaned and lubed, they quoted 1.5 hours
> (about $120
> at their rates). Do you think it's worth it, or
> should I just
> put up with the stiff focusing?
> 
> Godfrey
> 
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Re: PESO: Saturday with the Industar

2005-02-09 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 16:53:37 -0800, Juan Buhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 19:46:40 -0500, frank theriault
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Link won't work for me. It just says, "coming soon"...
> 
> Sorry--I broke the link today while playing with some settings.
> 
> The pic is here:
> 
> http://www.jbuhler.com/photoblog/index.php?showimage=12
> 

It was worth waiting for.  

Another warm, human photo.  I'm glad you posted it.

thanks,
frank
-- 
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Re: PESO: Saturday with the Industar

2005-02-09 Thread Juan Buhler
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 19:46:40 -0500, frank theriault
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Link won't work for me. It just says, "coming soon"...

Sorry--I broke the link today while playing with some settings.

The pic is here:

http://www.jbuhler.com/photoblog/index.php?showimage=12

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Re: Dogmatism: what is allowed?

2005-02-09 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 23:16:51 -0500 (EST), John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I suspect you are thinking of a Dave Berg "The Lighter Side Of ..."
> strip - it sounds far more like his style than like Don Martin.
> 

You are correct, Sir!!

Thanks, John, it was "The Lighter Side of..."  and it was Dave Berg.

cheers,
frank


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Re: PESO - Kasey

2005-02-09 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 14:52:11 -0800, Bruce Dayton
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Change of pace for me.  When I got the new Tokina ATX 400/5.6 AF lens
> in, I was doing some tests.  I thought I would see how the AF works
> and so went outside with the family dog.  He was walking along the
> sidewalk (not too fast) and it seemed like a good target to test with.
> 
> Pentax *istD, Tokina ATX 400/5.6 AF, handheld,
> ISO 800, Continuos AF, Center Spot AF, Aperture Priority,
> 1/750 sec @ 5.6.
> 
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_1067.htm
> 
> The image was convert to Tiff in C1 and level were adjusted in
> PictureWindow Pro.  Then downsized to jpg and sharpened for the web.
> 

Cute pooch!

I like the nice tight framing, great detail, nice use of dof.

cheers,
frank
-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO: Saturday with the Industar

2005-02-09 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 00:23:21 -0800, Juan Buhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry if I'm posting pics too often; feel free to ignore.
> 
> I wanted to post a link to this one, because it was taken with the
> 1959 Industar 50/3.5 on the istD, via 39mm-42mm and 42mm-K adapters:
> 
> http://jbuhler.com/photoblog/index.php?showimage=7
> 
> I kind of like the look of this lens.
> 

Link won't work for me. It just says, "coming soon"...

-frank


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Re: PESO - Old Cyclops

2005-02-09 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 11:24:32 -0700, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was looking for something to include in the upcoming B&W PUG and have been
> longing to show this photo for around 11 years.  Decided to make this one a
> PESO.
> 
> This was originally taken on Velvia and was a very monochromatic image
> except for some blue and green from sky and trees reflected in the chrome.
> Scanned and converted to grayscale.
> 
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3105267
> 
> Tom C.

That's pretty!  Beautifully captured, as well.

cheers,
frank

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Just so you don't think we are the only silly ones.....

2005-02-09 Thread William Robb
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1031&message=12155191
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Lens Bargains ...

2005-02-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I happened by the camera shop at lunch time to pick up the
replacement strap I'd ordered for one of my Domke bags (buggers
screwed up and sent the wrong one.. ) so I took a browse past
the used equipment counter. 

They had an SMC Pentax-A 50mm f/2.8 Macro. External finish a
little rough (KEH would likely call it "ugly", "bargain" at
least) but the optics are perfectly clean, no dust, the aperture
mechanism worked perfectly, the focusing mount is smooth as a
new lens. I recalled seeing several M50/4 macro lenses in
"Bargain" condition going for around $110 or so. They offered
this one to me at $130, with Pentax caps. 

What do you think? Is this a bargain? ;-)

I also have an M85/2 that I bought for $60 or so, but has a
somewhat stiff focusing ring. The optics are perfect and it
works well, I like its rendering qualities too. I asked about
having it cleaned and lubed, they quoted 1.5 hours (about $120
at their rates). Do you think it's worth it, or should I just
put up with the stiff focusing?

Godfrey

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Re: When will we get image stabilisation for Pentax DSLR?

2005-02-09 Thread ernreed2
Quoting Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I tried all of those advanced power zoom features when
> I got my PZ-1 11 or 12 years ago, and none of them was
> worth it.  The image size tracking was the biggest
> disappointment--I thought it would be useful when
> shooting (maybe I should say "photographing"!) my
> fast-moving children, or a ski race.  It turned out to
> be very jerky, inaccurate, and unreliable.

I never even figured out how to use them. Though I did try. A long time ago, 
when the gear was new.

I don't even use "power zoom" let alone the features. It's quite easy to turn 
the zoom ring in the "manual zoom" mode.

Then again, in nine years with the PZ-1 I have yet to use the intervalometer 
and I think I've used the multiple exposure once. 

ERNR



Re: When will we get image stabilisation for Pentax DSLR?

2005-02-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I do hope they get to it someday, but I chose to give up access
to Canon's excellent IS lenses because I found the size/weight
and rendering quality of Pentax' lenses and the *istDS body to
be more useful to my photography than the IS was. 

Which is not to say anything against IS ... It's extremely
useful in the right circumstances. I can almost justify keeping
the Canon 10D and the 300/4L IS and 1.4x Extender II for
precisely those times when the IS is very useful to me. :-)

Godfrey

--- Nick Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Far too late. Anyone who thinks they need IS will have
> migrated or chosen a different system by then. Unless Pentax
> make a concrete announcement well in advance, but that doesn't
> sound like them.


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RE: New K1000 owner

2005-02-09 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl
Isaac,
I've got a very nice Pentax-brand 75-150 that you can have pretty reasonably.
Contact me directly if you're interested.
Collin
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relationship the greater the impact."
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Re: Someone on the list has a virus

2005-02-09 Thread Mark Roberts
Christopher Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I noticed that also shortly after my first post to PDML, I started to
>get a lot of spam bounces to my virtual domain but prefixed with a random
>recipient.  I've no idea if this is a mere coincidence or a virus which
>sends mortgage spam. 

How is your mail server configured to handle invalid email addresses? If
it "bounces" them to the address in the "From" line that's bad. What
spammers are doing now is finding mail servers that bounce
undeliverables this way. Here's how it works: The spammer forges the
intended *recipient* into the "From" line then sends to a random address
on the server. The server then "bounces" it to the "From" address
(complete with message body - the spam), thereby delivering the spam
exactly where the spammer wanted it to go.

> Could we have an e-mail harvester as a subscriber?

Not likely. Not enough subscribers to make it worth while :)

>I'm running a fairly tightly configured mail server under Linux, and
>after a check through the system logs, I'm strongly doubting I am the
>originator.

The originating IP was 204.127.198.39 (comcast.net)

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Re: How is grain related to the sharpness of the lens used.

2005-02-09 Thread Herb Chong
there should be no relation.
Herb...
- Original Message - 
From: "Feroze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 8:52 AM
Subject: How is grain related to the sharpness of the lens used.


Using films of an ISO 400 to 80, I'm trying to figure out if there would 
be more grain visible when using a lower quality lens or a zoom versus a 
decent prime. For eg. would I see more grain while shooting the same 
shot with a 28-105 at 50 v/s a 50mm 1.7 both at 5.6? Are the two related 
factors?



re: Website Update - 2004/05 Snowcrystals

2005-02-09 Thread Tom C
Those are really cool Fred.  I'd be happy too for my first attempt.  Poor #5 
just couldn't take the heat, eh? The next round will probably be even 
better.  I'm still working up the courage to look at Mark's updated 
website...  the snowflake shots I first saw years ago were so good... I need 
to retain at least a  little self-esteem.

Tom C.

From: Fred Widall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: re: Website Update - 2004/05 Snowcrystals
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 18:12:46 -0500 (EST)
After reading Mark Cassino's recent posting explaining how he takes
his amazing snowflake photographs I've been itching to give it
a try... so of course we get a thaw and no snow falls !!
Today the snow returned and the temperatures were moderate so as soon
as I got home from work I hooked up my old screwmount bellows
to the *ist-DS, reverse mounted a SMC 55mm F2 on an ST 105mm F2.8,
and headed out to the garage. I mounted the camera on a tripod with
my latest ebay purchase, a Soligor macro focussing rail, and collected
some flakes on a sheet of glass. I put a flashlight in a garbage can
to provide some back lighting then balanced the glass on the
garbage can, and adjusted the tripod to shoot down through the glass.
Here's my results: http://ist.uwaterloo.ca/~fwwidall/Snowflakes/
Mark's images are vastly superior but as an early attempt I'm quite
pleased with what I got. I think I need to reduce my magnification, and
ensure the lens and glass are parallel. Depth of field is
approx. zero !
Please don't report me about #5, it wasn't my fault. He just got
overheated in his excitment at being photographed :)
--
 Fred Widall,
 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 URL: http://www.ist.uwaterloo.ca/~fwwidall
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Re: When will we get image stabilisation for Pentax DSLR?

2005-02-09 Thread Herb Chong
i expect at least one and a small chance of two DSLR announcements from 
Pentax this year. i hope that one of them is a $4-5K list body with specs 
similar to the Nikon D2X.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Trautmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: When will we get image stabilisation for Pentax DSLR?


*ist Ds was announced 2004-09-12. Thus a linear guess for the next
announcement would be April 2006. The EOL-claims for the
*ist D makes me feel that another camera might come soon(er).
The *ist D was announced the week before PMA 2003. It would be nice to see
another successor at PMA 2005.



Re: Nikkei Article(long) WAS: Pentax Pro DSLR (WAS: RE: Spotted on another group ...)

2005-02-09 Thread Herb Chong
right now, there a little over 100 yen to the US dollar. that means 60K yen 
(Bwill be a list price of around $650US.
(B
(BHerb...
(B- Original Message - 
(BFrom: "Takehiko Ueda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(BTo: 
(BSent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 8:06 AM
(BSubject: Nikkei Article(long) WAS: Pentax Pro DSLR (WAS: RE: Spotted on 
(Banother group ...)
(B
(B
(B> Lower price DSLR's are the symbol for this eagerness.
(B> DSLR's used to be, at least, JPY150 thousand, but Canon in
(B> September 2003 and Nikon in March 2004 introduced consumer
(B> model of slightly over JPY100 thousand.  Olympus and
(B> Pentax followed them last autumn.  Panasonic,
(B> collaborating with Olympus, is expected to introduce its
(B> 1st DSLR in the spring of 2006.  DSLR market, as well as
(B> compact digi-cam market, will be fierce battle of
(B> development and sales.
(B> The next step for consumer DSLR's will be the price range
(B> of consumer film SLR's around JPY60-80 thousand.  Canon,
(B> Nikon, and Pentax are expected to introduce this price
(B> range DSLR within this year.

Re: Bargains (was Re: PESO - Snow - Not!)

2005-02-09 Thread John Francis

It was my first piece of non-consumer glass (or, as my wife likes
to put it, my first step on the road to spending way too much).

Seeing the difference in results from that lens as opposed to
the original FA 100-300 (or even the surprisingly good M 80-200)
persuaded me (and, more importantly, her) that perhaps I was
capable of producing better images with better equipment.

I noticed that Shel seems to have taken a liking to them, too.


On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 09:30:36PM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> Lookin' through that lens had the same effect on me.
> 
> Shel 
> 
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Bruce Dayton 
> 
> > Hello John,
> >
> > I won't go to loathe, but extremely jealous comes to mind.  It was
> > your A* 200/2.8 that started it all for me back at Muir Woods.  
> 



Re: New K1000 owner

2005-02-09 Thread Rob Studdert
On 10 Feb 2005 at 0:21, Wilko Bulte wrote:

> And that will most likely not get any better with the latest electronic
> toys (read: digital SLRs).  

Well my *ist D has a cable tie holding on the new eye-cup (thanks Bill) and 
missing covers plus some pretty glossy wear in areas. They seem to be pretty 
tough little buggers, not quite as tough as my Leicas though :-)


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: New K1000 owner

2005-02-09 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 02:40:23PM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote..
> I gotta jump in and say "What a load of crap."  Leica owners have really
> gotten associated with this business of fondling their gear, collecting
> cameras rather than using them, and being just a bunch of image-craving
> dilettantes.  This image goes contrary to the Leica owners I know.  Every
> one of them use their cameras a lot - many Leicas are brassed, scratched,
> beat up with their vulcanite chipped and falling off, and many have been
> rebuilt and rebuilt again.  There are thousands of hybrids out there -
> cameras with parts scrounged from other cameras.  Some M4's have been
> fitted with M2 and M3 advance levers, my M2 has an M4 viewfinder, I've seen
> an M6 with an M4 finder, and, of course, M4's with M6 finders.
> 
> I know that you didn't write what you posted, but frankly, it's just
> bullshit.  I've seen more Pentax owners afraid to scratch their little
> jewels, worry about dust on or in the lens, or not using their gear when
> the weather's bad than I have Leica owners.

And that will most likely not get any better with the latest electronic
toys (read: digital SLRs).  

-- 
Wilko



Re: Re[2]: When will we get image stabilisation for Pentax DSLR?

2005-02-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
--- Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Are you sure that (although they may fit) they also retain IS
> capability? Is Canon's IS purely mechanical, or was the EOS
> system so advanced when introduced?

Of course Canon's lenses retain all their capabilities
throughout the EOS line. Canon's foresight in the introduction
of the EOS lens mount was to include supplying power for in-lens
focus servos and completely electronic information exchange
between camera and lens. Their IS system is essentially a lens
grouping mounted on a gimbal with twin gyros, which lock into
axial optical alignment when the IS feature is turned off, so it
operates both completely mechanically and independently of the
camera body other than for power and on/off switching
coordinated with the shutter release. It's a brilliant design. 

This is a hand-held exposure at 1/10 of a second with the Canon
10D + 300/4L IS at about a 20-30 foot distance, wide open @ ISO
800. Yes there's motion blur in it... mostly the motion of the
subjects. Believe me, I'm steady but not *that* steady ...
Without IS, my usual bottom limit for this level of camera
motion with an effective 420mm focal length lens is about 1/125
second. 

Godfrey



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Re: When will we get image stabilisation for Pentax DSLR?

2005-02-09 Thread Nick Clark
Far too late. Anyone who thinks they need IS will have migrated or chosen a 
different system by then. Unless Pentax make a concrete announcement well in 
advance, but that doesn't sound like them.

Nick

-Original Message-
From: "Shel Belinkoff"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  
  It will be in about two years ... mid-July 2007.  I can't be any more
specific at this time.

Shel 

   



Re: PESO - Old Cyclops

2005-02-09 Thread Rick Womer
That is one beautiful shot of a beautifully kept old
car!  The styling of that period was... uhhh...
remarkable, no?

--- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I was looking for something to include in the
> upcoming B&W PUG and have been 
> longing to show this photo for around 11 years. 
> Decided to make this one a 
> PESO.
> 
> This was originally taken on Velvia and was a very
> monochromatic image 
> except for some blue and green from sky and trees
> reflected in the chrome.  
> Scanned and converted to grayscale.
> 
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3105267
> 
> Tom C.
> 
> 
> 


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re: Website Update - 2004/05 Snowcrystals

2005-02-09 Thread Fred Widall
After reading Mark Cassino's recent posting explaining how he takes
his amazing snowflake photographs I've been itching to give it
a try... so of course we get a thaw and no snow falls !!

Today the snow returned and the temperatures were moderate so as soon
as I got home from work I hooked up my old screwmount bellows
to the *ist-DS, reverse mounted a SMC 55mm F2 on an ST 105mm F2.8,
and headed out to the garage. I mounted the camera on a tripod with
my latest ebay purchase, a Soligor macro focussing rail, and collected
some flakes on a sheet of glass. I put a flashlight in a garbage can
to provide some back lighting then balanced the glass on the
garbage can, and adjusted the tripod to shoot down through the glass.

Here's my results: http://ist.uwaterloo.ca/~fwwidall/Snowflakes/

Mark's images are vastly superior but as an early attempt I'm quite
pleased with what I got. I think I need to reduce my magnification, and
ensure the lens and glass are parallel. Depth of field is
approx. zero !

Please don't report me about #5, it wasn't my fault. He just got
overheated in his excitment at being photographed :)


--
 Fred Widall,
 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 URL: http://www.ist.uwaterloo.ca/~fwwidall
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Re: Makin' some BIG prints

2005-02-09 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Mark, how would an *ist D image stand up at 36X24 ? Any tests?

I think that would be too big for a 6 megapixel image, no matter how
good. However, later in the spring I'm going to try shooting some
landscapes consisting of two ist-D images stitched together. Hope the
photo shop is still in business by then. Looks grim now :(

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: When will we get image stabilisation for Pentax DSLR?

2005-02-09 Thread Rick Womer
I tried all of those advanced power zoom features when
I got my PZ-1 11 or 12 years ago, and none of them was
worth it.  The image size tracking was the biggest
disappointment--I thought it would be useful when
shooting (maybe I should say "photographing"!) my
fast-moving children, or a ski race.  It turned out to
be very jerky, inaccurate, and unreliable.


--- John Whittingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > What do you mean by "fully" supported? Power zoom
> appears to work on 
> > my MZ-S. Are there some features I'm missing 
> 
> FWIW image-size tracking, zoom clip, zoom effect are
> missing.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> -- Original Message ---
> From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Sent: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 16:19:37 -0500
> Subject: Re: When will we get image stabilisation
> for Pentax DSLR?
> 
> > "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > 
> > >No there are no power contacts in the *ist-D or
> Ds, but that's not why 
> > >it's crippled.  It's crippled because
> > >there's no aperture simulator lever.  Power zoom
> hasn't been fully 
> > >supported since the z/pz-1p.
> > 
> > What do you mean by "fully" supported? Power zoom
> appears to work on 
> > my MZ-S. Are there some features I'm missing (not
> that I'd notice -
> >  I don't use power zoom).
> > 
> > -- 
> > Mark Roberts
> > Photography and writing
> > www.robertstech.com
> --- End of Original Message ---
> 
> 




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Re: How is grain related to the sharpness of the lens used.

2005-02-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Shel, 

--- Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hmmm  rereading my post I can see that I should have
chosen
> my words more carefully.  Perhaps "mask" was not the best
choice.
> Mitigate, reduce, soften, temper, obscure, veil,  might have
been
> better choices. In any case, I'd ~think~ that the sharpness of
> the grain as appearing on a final print would be reduced.  A
poor
> quality lens has poor micro contrast, lower acutance,
sometimes
> softer focus in corners or at edges, and so on.  All of these
> things could easily effect what the eye perceives. ...

I disagree completely. No camera lens can make any difference
whatever in the appearance of the grain from a film negative.
Only processing can make a difference. An empirical proof is the
very existence of grain focusing devices ... The theory upon
which they operate is that when the grain is in focus, the
negative is as sharp as it can get. Which makes perfect sense
since when you're focusing the grain of an image, you're
focusing based on the gelatin-silver emulsion, not the
appearance of sharpness of the image formed by the lens.

> ... If a poor
> quality enlarging lens can soften photographic print, why not
the
> same with a poor quality taking lens.

A soft enlarging lens will soften both grain and image detail
equally, but can't effect the quality of grain on the negative.
A soft taking lens will affect the image quality but not the
quality of the grain itself. Only development and handling will
do that. 

Developing chemistry with a high content of anhydrous sodium
sulfite will erode the edges of the silver grains, costing
apparent sharpness and softening the appearance of grain.
Similarly, underexposure combined with heavy agitation and high
temperature development, fast shifts in emulsion temperature
while developing, will increase grain clumping, causing it to
become more prominent. 

Godfrey





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PESO - Kasey

2005-02-09 Thread Bruce Dayton
Change of pace for me.  When I got the new Tokina ATX 400/5.6 AF lens
in, I was doing some tests.  I thought I would see how the AF works
and so went outside with the family dog.  He was walking along the
sidewalk (not too fast) and it seemed like a good target to test with.

Pentax *istD, Tokina ATX 400/5.6 AF, handheld,
ISO 800, Continuos AF, Center Spot AF, Aperture Priority,
1/750 sec @ 5.6.

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_1067.htm

The image was convert to Tiff in C1 and level were adjusted in
PictureWindow Pro.  Then downsized to jpg and sharpened for the web.

Bruce

P.S. If you want to know - Bichon Frise is the breed.




Re: Makin' some BIG prints

2005-02-09 Thread Mark Roberts
"Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Years ago before I knew how big 35mm could be printed I made some quite large 
>photo prints from 25ISO 35mm film and I was well pleased, now of course I know 
>it's not possible :-)

"If you've done six impossible things this morning, why not round it off
with breakfast at Milliways, the Restaurant at the End of the Universe?"
;-)

>I'm quite pleased with the quality of the prints I'm getting from the *ist D 
>up 
>to 12x18" but I don't think they'd stand up too well to scrutiny printed any 
>larger.

I've done 18 x 24 from ist-D images, but you have to be careful as to
the subject matter. Images with lots of fine detail are not recommended
but many more images than you'd expect work very well.

>Sounds like you have having some fun :-)

It's even more fun when someone else forks over the $5500.00 for the
printer and I get to play with it!

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



RE: PESO: Saturday with the Industar

2005-02-09 Thread Rob Studdert
On 9 Feb 2005 at 14:10, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

> OK, that's nice to know wrt wide open.  But how about with the lens stopped 
> down
> a bit?  Is the DOF still about the same?  What about with a different plane of
> focus?  If you're getting these figures from a chart or calculator, which 
> one? 
> I'm only familiar with fCalc and I'm not sure if it does DOF calculations with
> the smaller sensor size of the digi (gotta look).

I was simply using fCalc and their integrated CoC values (which of course you 
can change to whatever suites) for APS and 35mm frame sizes.

> BTW, what CoC are you using for the digi and the full-frame film body?  Not to
> be a nit picker (which I certainly can be at times), I've always look at the 
> CoC
> figures as more guide lines or a point of reference rather than anything
> concrete, for as you well know, there are a number of things that contribute 
> to
> what may be an acceptable CoC.

Absolutely no more than a guide, change the CoC value and the calculations are 
all different but none are incorrect. All DOF calculations are just basic 
guides and are treated as far too absolute IMHO.

Getting back to your question if you wished to roughly compare DOF (using 
fCalc) at the same effective AOV then consider a 35mm lens on a *ist D and a 
50mm lens on a 35mm FF body, both at f5.6 with subject at 4m. DOF in the first 
case is 3.4m and the second case is 1.9m. If the 35mm lens on the *ist D body 
was opened up a stop to f4 then the DOF would be 2.2m.

So there is a difference when shooting for the same AOV but it's not so 
significant that one stop won't bring it back to par assuming all else is equal 
(we should also assume a tighter CoC for a smaller format as equal).

Cheers,


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
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Re: Someone on the list has a virus

2005-02-09 Thread Christopher Oliver
On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 05:13:18PM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote:
> Just got an email with a virus sent to me. Because these things
> automatically forge their headers there's no way of knowing who it came
> from but the "From" line had one PDML member,

I noticed that also shortly after my first post to PDML, I started to
get a lot of spam bounces to my virtual domain but prefixed with a random
recipient.  I've no idea if this is a mere coincidence or a virus which
sends mortgage spam.  Could we have an e-mail harvester as a subscriber?
I'm running a fairly tightly configured mail server under Linux, and
after a check through the system logs, I'm strongly doubting I am the
originator.

Hm.

-- 
Christopher Oliver
  Inside every good dog is a terrier trying to get out.



Re: Makin' some BIG prints

2005-02-09 Thread Christian


Cotty wrote on 2/9/2005, 5:22 PM:

 >
 > Mark, how would an *ist D image stand up at 36X24 ? Any tests?

I've got a few 20x30s at home that look pretty darn good.


-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: New K1000 owner

2005-02-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I gotta jump in and say "What a load of crap."  Leica owners have really
gotten associated with this business of fondling their gear, collecting
cameras rather than using them, and being just a bunch of image-craving
dilettantes.  This image goes contrary to the Leica owners I know.  Every
one of them use their cameras a lot - many Leicas are brassed, scratched,
beat up with their vulcanite chipped and falling off, and many have been
rebuilt and rebuilt again.  There are thousands of hybrids out there -
cameras with parts scrounged from other cameras.  Some M4's have been
fitted with M2 and M3 advance levers, my M2 has an M4 viewfinder, I've seen
an M6 with an M4 finder, and, of course, M4's with M6 finders.

I know that you didn't write what you posted, but frankly, it's just
bullshit.  I've seen more Pentax owners afraid to scratch their little
jewels, worry about dust on or in the lens, or not using their gear when
the weather's bad than I have Leica owners.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Date: 2/9/2005 1:21:19 PM
> Subject: Re: New K1000 owner
>
> There was a site once that discussed the foibles associated with the
owners 
> of various camera brands. (Crashed my computer and lost my "favorites."
Wish 
> I knew what that URL was) Anyway, I think it was the Leica owners that
were 
> described as taking their cameras into the bathroom with them so that
they 
> could be alone listening to the sound of their camera's shutter. They
don't 
> take pictures, just snap the shutter.




Re: Makin' some BIG prints

2005-02-09 Thread Rob Studdert
On 9 Feb 2005 at 17:45, Mark Roberts wrote:

> Imperfections that
> don't show up at 12 x 18 are obvious when you get to double those
> dimensions! Obviously, only the best, sharpest images have any hope of
> standing up to this amount of magnification and ideally you'd want to be
> shooting medium format also. Still, with top-notch glass and good
> technique, it's amazing what 35mm can achieve.

Years ago before I knew how big 35mm could be printed I made some quite large 
photo prints from 25ISO 35mm film and I was well pleased, now of course I know 
it's not possible :-)

I'm quite pleased with the quality of the prints I'm getting from the *ist D up 
to 12x18" but I don't think they'd stand up too well to scrutiny printed any 
larger.

Sounds like you have having some fun :-)


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HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
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Re: Makin' some BIG prints

2005-02-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/2/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Lately I've been taking advantage of my access to an Epson 7500 inkjet
>at the store where I work and made some big prints. Done a few 18 x 24
>inch prints and been impressed with the quality. A couple of days ago I
>went whole hog and ran off a 24 x 36 inch print. It's an entirely
>different experience from doing "normal" size prints. Imperfections that
>don't show up at 12 x 18 are obvious when you get to double those
>dimensions! Obviously, only the best, sharpest images have any hope of
>standing up to this amount of magnification and ideally you'd want to be
>shooting medium format also. Still, with top-notch glass and good
>technique, it's amazing what 35mm can achieve.
>
>I'll bring a couple to GFM in June :)
>The image I printed Monday is this one:
>http://www.robertstech.com/graphics/pages/7d303108.htm
>MZ-S, FA*24/2.0, Kodak E100VS

Mark, how would an *ist D image stand up at 36X24 ? Any tests?




Cheers,
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RE: New K1000 owner

2005-02-09 Thread Jens Bladt
I used to have a Topcon Super D for that reason :-).

I am actually thinking about getting a Superr D agian that (pruely
mechanical) SOUND!
It is also one of the most beautiful cameras ever made IMO :-)

Many architects and designers bought a Topcon for the looks - the Topcon
design has this pure, simple/basic lines of an ancient Greek building. And
it's a great "photographer" as well.

And BTW: Don't underestimate the beauty of a sound (of 1 sec). This actually
goes for cars, motorbikes, car doors, watches, human voices - among other
things - as well.
Jens Bladt
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-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Bob Blakely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 9. februar 2005 22:17
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: New K1000 owner


There was a site once that discussed the foibles associated with the owners
of various camera brands. (Crashed my computer and lost my "favorites." Wish
I knew what that URL was) Anyway, I think it was the Leica owners that were
described as taking their cameras into the bathroom with them so that they
could be alone listening to the sound of their camera's shutter. They don't
take pictures, just snap the shutter.

Regards,
Bob...

From: "Thibouille" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Why not a couple primes? You'll get beter overall quality and they are
> brighter.
> Of course you'll have to carry them all.
> A SMC Pentax-M 135mm 3.5 is a very good lens and is VERY cheap.
>
> I have a KX (higher end version of the K1000). I can tell you you will
> love this camera. I even listen to mine as much as I want when no film
> inside. Just because I LOVE the noise it does :)





Makin' some BIG prints

2005-02-09 Thread Mark Roberts
Lately I've been taking advantage of my access to an Epson 7500 inkjet
at the store where I work and made some big prints. Done a few 18 x 24
inch prints and been impressed with the quality. A couple of days ago I
went whole hog and ran off a 24 x 36 inch print. It's an entirely
different experience from doing "normal" size prints. Imperfections that
don't show up at 12 x 18 are obvious when you get to double those
dimensions! Obviously, only the best, sharpest images have any hope of
standing up to this amount of magnification and ideally you'd want to be
shooting medium format also. Still, with top-notch glass and good
technique, it's amazing what 35mm can achieve.

I'll bring a couple to GFM in June :)
The image I printed Monday is this one:
http://www.robertstech.com/graphics/pages/7d303108.htm
MZ-S, FA*24/2.0, Kodak E100VS


-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



RE: PESO: Saturday with the Industar

2005-02-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
OK, that's nice to know wrt wide open.  But how about with the lens stopped
down a bit?  Is the DOF still about the same?  What about with a different
plane of focus?  If you're getting these figures from a chart or
calculator, which one?  I'm only familiar with fCalc and I'm not sure if it
does DOF calculations with the smaller sensor size of the digi (gotta look).

BTW, what CoC are you using for the digi and the full-frame film body?  Not
to be a nit picker (which I certainly can be at times), I've always look at
the CoC figures as more guide lines or a point of reference rather than
anything concrete, for as you well know, there are a number of things that
contribute to what may be an acceptable CoC.

Thanks, Rob 

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: Rob Studdert 

> A 35/2 at f2 with the focus plane at about 1.5m on the *ist D will yield
a DOF 
> of approximately 14cm, on a full frame camera the figure would be about
18cm 
> from the same view-point due to the larger acceptable CoC. IOW there is
no 
> practical difference in effective DOF between APS sensor and full frame
bodies.




Re: PESO - Old Cyclops

2005-02-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/2/05, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:

>This was originally taken on Velvia and was a very monochromatic image 
>except for some blue and green from sky and trees reflected in the chrome.  
>Scanned and converted to grayscale.
>
>http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3105267
>
>Tom C.


Yowsah. Great pic - love it.



Cheers,
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Re: OT: Question about Battery Chargers...

2005-02-09 Thread Ryan Brooks
Albano Garcia wrote:
Hi gang,
I use AA NiMh rechargeables.
My charger says "output 900 mA MAX", so it's a maximum
of 900mA per hour.
My question is: if I put 4 AAs to charge, this output
splits in four? or 4 batteries receive 900 mA each?
Regards
 

Are you reading this on the wall wart or the charger itself?
The best way to think of this is really in watts, since the power supply 
for the charger isn't at 1.5V.   Basically, multiply the supplied volts 
by the amps and this is the watts delivered.   With this number, you can 
figure out how much is _ideally_ going toward the charge.   Now, the 
problem is that the batteries get hot and the charger gets hot, so some 
of this delivered energy is lost as heat.

-Ryan
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Photography & Graphic Design
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Someone on the list has a virus

2005-02-09 Thread Mark Roberts
Just got an email with a virus sent to me. Because these things
automatically forge their headers there's no way of knowing who it came
from but the "From" line had one PDML member, the "return path" had
another PDML member and the message body mentioned a third. So it's a
good bet that it came from someone with all these email addresses on
their computer (ie: a PDML member).
The origination IP address belonged to Comcast so if you're a PDML'er on
Comcast I'd suggest doing a virus scan ASAP. There's an excellent
antivirus package that's *free* for personal use at http://www.avast.com

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



RE: PESO: Saturday with the Industar

2005-02-09 Thread Rob Studdert
On 9 Feb 2005 at 6:40, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

> The "Saturday" pic is great!  While I like it just fine the way it is, a
> ~little~ less DOF might have provided a little more "punch".  I don't know
> if you could have gotten less DOF with the DSLR;

A 35/2 at f2 with the focus plane at about 1.5m on the *ist D will yield a DOF 
of approximately 14cm, on a full frame camera the figure would be about 18cm 
from the same view-point due to the larger acceptable CoC. IOW there is no 
practical difference in effective DOF between APS sensor and full frame bodies.


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Re: OT: Question about Battery Chargers...

2005-02-09 Thread Rob Studdert
On 9 Feb 2005 at 13:19, Albano Garcia wrote:

> 
> Hi gang,
> I use AA NiMh rechargeables.
> My charger says "output 900 mA MAX", so it's a maximum
> of 900mA per hour.
> My question is: if I put 4 AAs to charge, this output
> splits in four? or 4 batteries receive 900 mA each?
> Regards

The question is will it charge one lone battery or 2 with a switch selection or 
are you required to charge 4 at once?


Rob Studdert
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UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
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Re: Pentax *ist Ds Underwater housing

2005-02-09 Thread Rob Studdert
On 9 Feb 2005 at 12:47, Peter J. Alling wrote:

> Yea, that's right.  I'm going to put my $1000+ digital camera, not to 
> mention a lens that worth a few hundred more, into an underwater housing 
> that doesn't seem to have a depth rating?  How much you paying me?

My bet is that the case will be more expensive than a *ist Ds and waterproof to 
a depth anyone sane ever needs to go.



Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
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UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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