Re: My dog, my pal (Was Willy the Springer Spaniel)

2005-02-26 Thread Peter J. Alling
Outside of a dog a book is mans best friend, inside of a dog it's too 
dark to read.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, a dog is truly man's best friend. A buddy of mine once met a woman he wanted to marry, but 
she insisted that he give up his dog. He agonized over it for a while, and in the end he gave 
up the woman and kept the dog. He put it this way: "I just kind of figured that you can 
sleep with a dog, but you can't kennel a wife." I think that says it all .
 

I feel the same about our 2 mutts:
http://groups.msn.com/BillOwensPhotos/shoebox.msnw?Page=1
Just a snap with the Optio MX and direct flash.
Bill
   

Thanks Bill. He's my best pal.
 

   


 


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Flash Triggers and *ist D

2005-02-26 Thread Jens Bladt
Has anyone used a radio flash trigger with the *ist D.
I have to use flahlight to trigger our studio equipment (Courtnay).
A cord doesn't work. I heard that some digital cameras must have the current
reversed
(people seem to buy a hot shoe adapter that does this). Has anyone had this
problem.
My *ist D will trigger lots of other flashes!

Annother solution might be to buy a radio trigger.
They seem to be more reliable than photo light slave cells, anyway.
Regards

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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt




Re: Shutter shutdown

2005-02-26 Thread Peter J. Alling
All I can say is thank god I don't live in Australia, even with security 
it hasn't gotten that bad here yet.

Derby Chang wrote:
An interesting article from yesterdays Sydney Morning Herald. It isn't 
easy being a street photographer these days. The Rex Dupain anecdote 
is rather sad.

http://smh.com.au/articles/2005/02/25/1109180112027.html
(you might need to do the free registration)
D


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During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
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Re: SMCP-A 50/1.4 for US $224.49 ! Think I'll get rich.

2005-02-26 Thread Raimo K
Sorry, I do not get it.
I am not a pinhole photography fan but it´s not laughable. Price is not 
high, either.
All the best!
Raimo K
Personal photography homepage at:
http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho

- Original Message - 
From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 7:34 AM
Subject: Re: SMCP-A 50/1.4 for US $224.49 ! Think I'll get rich.


It's a good lens, true, but that's nuts.
On the subject of auctions, I had a good laugh at this one:
http://tinyurl.com/62qhx
My apologies to anyone who was watching it 
Dave S

On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 22:48:06 -0600, Don Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
I love my A 50/1.4's, but holy cow!
Maybe I'll sell my 4 and get rich.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3876253977
Don





Uh oh...What's going on here?

2005-02-26 Thread Marco Alpert
I'm a brand new convert to Pentax, having just purchased an *ist DS as 
my first DSLR and have been trying to acquire a few of the suddenly 
oh-so-hard-to-get primes. Thursday evening I got home to find an FA 
135mm f/2.8 had arrived from B&H and yesterday morning shot a few quick 
pictures of a tree in our front yard before heading off to work (no 
artistic intent - just wanted to see if it was basically functioning). 
I didn't get a chance to download them until this evening and was 
somewhat disturbed to see the amount of color fringing (or whatever it 
is) at the high contrast transitions between branches and the sky. 
Example here:

http://www.alpert.com/marco/temp/
Any insights as to whether this is typical or not, or if it is 
indicative of a problem with the lens (or camera) would be much 
appreciated. Frankly, I'm still pretty much a novice at the digital 
stuff and I'd love to find I've done something stupid.

Thanks.
   -Marco


Re: Alternatives to vuescan

2005-02-26 Thread Alan Chan
--- John Whittingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Did you experiment with the infrared cleaning filter?

If you mean ICE, then yes. The scratch removal feature of Vuescan has no impact 
to
the streaking problem.

=
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Re: Alternatives to vuescan

2005-02-26 Thread Alan Chan
--- John Whittingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've not got to slides yet, I guess that will be the real test, greater 
> dynamic range required from the hardware.

I have found the Minolta software produces better results for slides than 
Vuescan,
while Vuescan does a lot better for negatives (colour or B&W). But I have never 
got
any IT8 to calibrate the Vuescan so maybe I am missing something. However, for 
my
scanner (oldest Elite), if the slides look a little dark, the scans will be too 
dark
and useless. That's one reason I am not too keen on shooting slides. Perhaps the
latest scanners (Nikon 5000 & Minolta 5400) will do better? Too bad Vuescan 
doesn't
solve the streaking issue or I will buy the 5400.

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Re: PAW: Willy the Springer Spaniel

2005-02-26 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Paul ...

Were it not for john's post containing the URL, I'd have never seen this
snap.  It is clear that you have a close bond with the ol' guy.  Good
capture.

There is something about the pic that bothers me.  The distinction between
the black fur of Willy and the red background seems - for lack of a better
word - artificial.  It doesn't seem quite natural - it's too defined, if
that makes any sense.  Could that be a result of using the flash?

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3152929




Re: SMCP-A 50/1.4 for US $224.49 ! Think I'll get rich.

2005-02-26 Thread David Savage
It's a good lens, true, but that's nuts.

On the subject of auctions, I had a good laugh at this one:

http://tinyurl.com/62qhx

My apologies to anyone who was watching it 

Dave S



On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 22:48:06 -0600, Don Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I love my A 50/1.4's, but holy cow!
> Maybe I'll sell my 4 and get rich.
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3876253977
> 
> Don
> 
>



Re: Special Interview with PENTAX @PMA

2005-02-26 Thread Herb Chong
given that the *istD is discontinued, they have to release a digital body 
above the *istD and below the 645 replacement really soon now to keep the 
mid range. those are the people who both have lots of older lenses and are 
likely to want to buy more lenses. BTW, the newest D2X shots are a lot 
better than the prototype ones from last fall.

Herb...
- Original Message - 
From: "John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 12:05 AM
Subject: Re: Special Interview with PENTAX @PMA


That's not how I read the postings.
It looks to me as though the next thing to come is a high-pixel-count
digital body for the "professional" market that will take the 645 lenses.
Then we'll probably see a follow-on model or two for the existing *ist-D
range.  From other reports the most likely next release will be a 
lower-end
model, below the DS, trying to grab the entry-level marketplace 
(sub-$650).
If we do see a *ist-Dn, it's still going to be aimed at what Pentax see as
the *ist-D market - the low end.  Perhaps we'll get 8MP, but I doubt we'll
see 12MP (just as well, if the first reports of high-ISO noise are 
correct).



Re: PAW: Willy the Springer Spaniel

2005-02-26 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Feb 27, 2005 at 02:19:58AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I've struggled to get a decent picture of Willy for quite some time. 
> Yesterday I got him to sit still on the stairs for a few moments. He's 
> getting on in years now, but he's still quite handsome. Shot him with the FA 
> 50/1.4 at f8 and a single flash bounced off the ceiling. (This is one of the 
> nice things about the Sigma EX-500 DG Super. The head rotates, so you can do 
> a ceiling bounce in vertical position.) Willy is here:
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3152929

PAW, indeed!   I like it.

A portly, aged, gentleman, but still one with some dignity.



Re: Special Interview with PENTAX @PMA

2005-02-26 Thread John Francis

That's not how I read the postings.
It looks to me as though the next thing to come is a high-pixel-count
digital body for the "professional" market that will take the 645 lenses.

Then we'll probably see a follow-on model or two for the existing *ist-D
range.  From other reports the most likely next release will be a lower-end
model, below the DS, trying to grab the entry-level marketplace (sub-$650).
If we do see a *ist-Dn, it's still going to be aimed at what Pentax see as
the *ist-D market - the low end.  Perhaps we'll get 8MP, but I doubt we'll
see 12MP (just as well, if the first reports of high-ISO noise are correct).

One piece of good news, for the enthusiast market, is that Hyper modes seem
to be here to stay. And as Pentax have apparently noticed that their buyers
seem to have quite a few existing lenses, and are eschewing cheap zooms,
we could get a few new nice primes - maybe even more 'limited' lenses.
Who knows - we may even see the return of the aperture simulator coupling.
(Personally, though, I rather doubt that).

On the other hand, the APS-C sensor is the design centre for the moment.

While Pentax do see a possible market niche between the *ist-D and the
high-end model, it's not likely that we'll see anything for that sector
in the next 12 months.  That's where I'd expect to see a 12MP sensor.
That's also where I'd expect to see a sensor larger than APS-C, although
I think that's even further away (after all, releasing a digital camera
body that doesn't work perfectly with a fairly new DA lens is risky).


Herb Chong mused:
> 
> if we can believe them, then 12MP camera based on the same sensor as the 
> Nikon D2X seems strong possibility. the *istD announcement happened not a 
> long time after the D100 announcement.
> 
> Herb...
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Powell Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 1:57 PM
> Subject: Special Interview with PENTAX @PMA
> 
> 
> > On DPReview Pentax forum
> >
> > Special Interview with PENTAX @PMA [English Part1]
> >
> > http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=12418969
> >
> > 
> 
> 



RE: Willy the Springer Spaniel

2005-02-26 Thread Don Sanderson
Great shot Paul, those eyes!
(OK, go ahead and shoot, if you HAVE to.) ;-)

Getting a Bassett Hound to hold still isn't quite as hard:
http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/Beau_Yawn_Web.jpg
Getting one to wake up is more challenging. ;-)

Don


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 8:20 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: PAW: Willy the Springer Spaniel
> 
> 
> I've struggled to get a decent picture of Willy for quite some 
> time. Yesterday I got him to sit still on the stairs for a few 
> moments. He's getting on in years now, but he's still quite 
> handsome. Shot him with the FA 50/1.4 at f8 and a single flash 
> bounced off the ceiling. (This is one of the nice things about 
> the Sigma EX-500 DG Super. The head rotates, so you can do a 
> ceiling bounce in vertical position.) Willy is here:
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3152929
> 



SMCP-A 50/1.4 for US $224.49 ! Think I'll get rich.

2005-02-26 Thread Don Sanderson
I love my A 50/1.4's, but holy cow!
Maybe I'll sell my 4 and get rich.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3876253977

Don



Re: Special Interview with PENTAX @PMA

2005-02-26 Thread Herb Chong
if we can believe them, then 12MP camera based on the same sensor as the 
Nikon D2X seems strong possibility. the *istD announcement happened not a 
long time after the D100 announcement.

Herb...
- Original Message - 
From: "Powell Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 1:57 PM
Subject: Special Interview with PENTAX @PMA


On DPReview Pentax forum
Special Interview with PENTAX @PMA [English Part1]
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=12418969




Re: Hmm.. ist DS competition?

2005-02-26 Thread Bill Owens
It's slang for Wal-Mart.
Bill
- Original Message - 
From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: Hmm.. ist DS competition?


Wally World?  Do you work at an amusement park - something like Sea 
Worrld?
Is it a place that's just local?  Never heard of Wally World.  Can't help
but think of Leave it To Beaver ...  Don't mean to offend, it's just 
a
funny name ;-))

Shel

[Original Message]
From: Bill Owens

Unfortunately you're correct.  At the Wally World where I work, I have a
few
photos taken with my Optio MX.




pixmantec Rawshooter

2005-02-26 Thread Derby Chang
Downloaded the pixmantec RAWshooter.
On paper, it seemed good. Support for *istDS and has an eyedropper tool 
for grey/white balance. And version 1.0 is 100% free.

But it seems to have a problem reading DS-flavoured PEFs; they are 
confused with *istD files so they come out looking like one of those 
"cross your eyes and you see 3D dolphins" pictures.

Seems to be a known problem they promise to fix. Hope so. This proggie 
looks promising.

Their forums are a little flaky too (doesn't seem to work with Firefox).
http://www.pixmantec.com/products/rawshooter_essentials.html
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Re: Hmm.. ist DS competition?

2005-02-26 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Wally World?  Do you work at an amusement park - something like Sea Worrld?
Is it a place that's just local?  Never heard of Wally World.  Can't help
but think of Leave it To Beaver ...  Don't mean to offend, it's just a
funny name ;-))

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: Bill Owens

> Unfortunately you're correct.  At the Wally World where I work, I have a
few 
> photos taken with my Optio MX.  



Re:My dog, my pal (Was Willy the Springer Spaniel)

2005-02-26 Thread pnstenquist
Yes, a dog is truly man's best friend. A buddy of mine once met a woman he 
wanted to marry, but she insisted that he give up his dog. He agonized over it 
for a while, and in the end he gave up the woman and kept the dog. He put it 
this way: "I just kind of figured that you can sleep with a dog, but you can't 
kennel a wife." I think that says it all .


> 
> I feel the same about our 2 mutts:
> 
> http://groups.msn.com/BillOwensPhotos/shoebox.msnw?Page=1
> 
> Just a snap with the Optio MX and direct flash.
> 
> Bill
> 
> > Thanks Bill. He's my best pal.
> > 
> > 
> 
> 



Re: Hmm.. ist DS competition?

2005-02-26 Thread Bill Owens

On 26 Feb 2005 at 11:44, Peter J. Alling wrote:
8mp isn't enough of an improvement in resolution over 6mp to make much
difference, especially as
there will be an increase in noise at higher ISOs.
Regardless it makes a world or difference as a sales and marketing lever,
especially to those new to the market.
Unfortunately you're correct.  At the Wally World where I work, I have a few 
photos taken with my Optio MX.  Several 4x6's printed on the Fuji 375 and an 
8x10 printed on my Epson 925.  When Joe and Jane Sixpack start gushing over 
the 4-6 Mp P&S's, I ask them how many prints larger than 8x10 they're going 
to print or how much they're going to crop.  I then show them the results 
from the 3 Mp Optio.  Most are suitably impressed.  My next project will be 
to shoot the same scene with the Optio and the *istD and see if there is any 
visible difference at 8x10.

Bill 




Re: Willy the Springer Spaniel

2005-02-26 Thread Bill Owens
I'll get the link right sooner or later :-)
http://groups.msn.com/BillOwensPhotos/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=88
Bill
- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: Willy the Springer Spaniel


Thanks Bill. He's my best pal.

I like it a lot, Paul.
Bill
- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 9:19 PM
Subject: PAW: Willy the Springer Spaniel

> I've struggled to get a decent picture of Willy for quite some time.
> Yesterday I got him to sit still on the stairs for a few moments. He's
> getting on in years now, but he's still quite handsome. Shot him with 
> the
> FA 50/1.4 at f8 and a single flash bounced off the ceiling. (This is 
> one
> of the nice things about the Sigma EX-500 DG Super. The head rotates, 
> so
> you can do a ceiling bounce in vertical position.) Willy is here:
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3152929
>
>






Re: Willy the Springer Spaniel

2005-02-26 Thread Bill Owens
I feel the same about our 2 mutts:
http://groups.msn.com/BillOwensPhotos/shoebox.msnw?Page=1
Just a snap with the Optio MX and direct flash.
Bill
Thanks Bill. He's my best pal.




Re: Willy the Springer Spaniel

2005-02-26 Thread pnstenquist
Thanks Bill. He's my best pal.


> I like it a lot, Paul.
> 
> Bill
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 9:19 PM
> Subject: PAW: Willy the Springer Spaniel
> 
> 
> > I've struggled to get a decent picture of Willy for quite some time. 
> > Yesterday I got him to sit still on the stairs for a few moments. He's 
> > getting on in years now, but he's still quite handsome. Shot him with the 
> > FA 50/1.4 at f8 and a single flash bounced off the ceiling. (This is one 
> > of the nice things about the Sigma EX-500 DG Super. The head rotates, so 
> > you can do a ceiling bounce in vertical position.) Willy is here:
> > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3152929
> >
> > 
> 
> 



Re: Willy the Springer Spaniel

2005-02-26 Thread Bill Owens
I like it a lot, Paul.
Bill
- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 9:19 PM
Subject: PAW: Willy the Springer Spaniel


I've struggled to get a decent picture of Willy for quite some time. 
Yesterday I got him to sit still on the stairs for a few moments. He's 
getting on in years now, but he's still quite handsome. Shot him with the 
FA 50/1.4 at f8 and a single flash bounced off the ceiling. (This is one 
of the nice things about the Sigma EX-500 DG Super. The head rotates, so 
you can do a ceiling bounce in vertical position.) Willy is here:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3152929





Re: colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-26 Thread mike wilson
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: "mike wilson"
Subject: Re: colour shift under big lighting

Is this not where TTL scores - it will cut your flash and use the 
opposition's?  You may still get incorrect exposure but it will not be 
so bad as if you got the whole double burst.  Also, although it looks 
as if it would be impossible to miss getting excess flash, you are 
talking about exposure times of considerably less than a second, which 
will cut down the chances quite a lot.

I dunno Mike.
In one of the clips I saw recently, there were at least a half dozen of 
them, all firing continuous bursts.
It's bound to happen.
Agreed.  And some, if not most, of those will be goners.
I've had it happen to me once, which is amazing in itself.
I took a picture from the back of the church with no flash, probably a 
1/8 second exposure, and someone in the mosh pit decided to take a 
picture at some point within that 1/8 second.
The more I think about it, the more I agree with you that if you manage 
to coincide well, your shot is probably kaput.  So the question is: how 
often does it happen?  If it was usual, then I would assume that the 
picture agencies would be trying to curb numbers of photographers at events.

m


PAW: Willy the Springer Spaniel

2005-02-26 Thread pnstenquist
I've struggled to get a decent picture of Willy for quite some time. Yesterday 
I got him to sit still on the stairs for a few moments. He's getting on in 
years now, but he's still quite handsome. Shot him with the FA 50/1.4 at f8 and 
a single flash bounced off the ceiling. (This is one of the nice things about 
the Sigma EX-500 DG Super. The head rotates, so you can do a ceiling bounce in 
vertical position.) Willy is here:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3152929



Shutter shutdown

2005-02-26 Thread Derby Chang
An interesting article from yesterdays Sydney Morning Herald. It isn't 
easy being a street photographer these days. The Rex Dupain anecdote is 
rather sad.

http://smh.com.au/articles/2005/02/25/1109180112027.html
(you might need to do the free registration)
D
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Re: Hmm.. ist DS competition?

2005-02-26 Thread Herb Chong
Canon's 1D Mk2 is a lot cleaner than the 1D that it replaced at the same 
ISO, despite having pixels half the linear dimension. there's more to it 
than that.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: Hmm.. ist DS competition?


8mp isn't enough of an improvement in resolution over 6mp to make much 
difference, especially as
there will be an increase in noise at higher ISOs.  This will have to be 
removed by software which will
probably cost quality.  If it's the usual Canon construction for their 
lower end cameras the feel will just
be yucckie.



Re: colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-26 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: "mike wilson"
Subject: Re: colour shift under big lighting


Is this not where TTL scores - it will cut your flash and use the 
opposition's?  You may still get incorrect exposure but it will not 
be so bad as if you got the whole double burst.  Also, although it 
looks as if it would be impossible to miss getting excess flash, 
you are talking about exposure times of considerably less than a 
second, which will cut down the chances quite a lot.
I dunno Mike.
In one of the clips I saw recently, there were at least a half dozen 
of them, all firing continuous bursts.
It's bound to happen.
I've had it happen to me once, which is amazing in itself.
I took a picture from the back of the church with no flash, probably 
a 1/8 second exposure, and someone in the mosh pit decided to take a 
picture at some point within that 1/8 second.

William Robb 




Re: colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-26 Thread mike wilson
William Robb wrote:

I was watching the Prince and Miss Camilla on the news the other day, 
and I couldn't see any way in hell that the photo boys weren't getting 
multiple flash bursts happening on the same frame.
Is this not where TTL scores - it will cut your flash and use the 
opposition's?  You may still get incorrect exposure but it will not be 
so bad as if you got the whole double burst.  Also, although it looks as 
if it would be impossible to miss getting excess flash, you are talking 
about exposure times of considerably less than a second, which will cut 
down the chances quite a lot.

m


RE: Opinions about Sigmas

2005-02-26 Thread Amita Guha
> -Original Message-
> From: Gianfranco Irlanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

> I'm not familiar with the wide angle lenses of the EX series 

This is where Sigma has really impressed me lately. My Sigma 15mm fisheye is
tack sharp, and so is their 20mm f/1.8 prime. I like the low light
performance of both. I was kind of down on Sigma lenses before because I had
a couple of cheap ones that weren't so great, but I'm glad I gave them
another chance. I'm thinking about getting the 135-400mm for birding, but
this 70-200 f/2.8 sounds intriguing...

Amita




Re: colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-26 Thread Mark Cassino
Are you shooting digital or film?  If digital - do you have Auto White 
Balance on?

When I fist shot swim meets with the *ist d I set it to AWB, figuring that 
it could make better sense of the colors in the pool than I could. The first 
batch of photos came out all over the place - water ranged from yellow-green 
to deep aqua blue. When I went back I realized that there were three kinds 
of lighting - fluorescent, sodium vapor, and incandescent in the water. 
Since I travel around and visit different pools, the lighting is always 
different. So, I just do some test shots when I get on site, set the white 
balance to the best setting (I go for blue water) and then shoot everything 
like that. If the images are a bit off I pull up a representative exposure, 
adjust the levels to get the colors on the mark, and then save the 
adjustment curve and have an action load all the images, apply that curve, 
and save them. That takes care of all but the worst, and those I just deal 
with one by one.

Even with the white balance locked to one setting, I do notice when I open 
RAW files that the tint setting varies - usually not by much, but 10 to 15 
points.  Color temp seems to be consistent.

So maybe changing lights and AWB caused the problem... or maybe you were 
shooting  film under constant lighting, in which case I'd suggest that all 
politicians are chameleons and you simply caught them in the act of changing 
their colors...

- MCC
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www.markcassino.com
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- Original Message - 
From: "Frantisek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PDML" 
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 10:56 AM
Subject: colour shift under big lighting


Hi,
  what would be the safe shutter speed to avoid the colour and
  contrast shift under high intensity lighting? Always when I am
  shooting some event lit by something like that, I get incosistent
  colours in a burst of frames. I hope it's not the camera
  (elsewhere it worked fine, and it's on manual settings now auto
  WB), but the flickering of the light which either changes in
  spectral emmission or changes intensity. I noticed it again on the
  B-P summit, where outdoor events were either fully lit or filled in
  by big floods, frame to frame the colours shift a bit, with some
  contrast change as well.
  I have assumed that it's due to lighting flicker, and that
  a slower shutter speed might solve the problem? Like with
  photographing TV? If yes, what would be the good shutter speed?
  I hope it's not camera's problem...
  Thanks!
Good light!
  fra




RE: Opinions about Sigmas

2005-02-26 Thread Amita Guha
I compared the Tamron and Sigma offerings in this range, and aside from the 
fact that the Tamron samples were just better, the Sigma was bigger and 
slightly more expensive. I've had the Tamron 28-75 Di for a month now and I 
couldn't be happier with it.

Amita

> -Original Message-
> From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:22 PM
> To: Ã ÃÃ
> Subject: Re: Opinions about Sigmas
> 
> 
> Hello Ð,
> 
> You should consider the Tamron 28-75/2.8 DI lens.  It is 
> reasonable price and optically very good.  I have it and am 
> very pleased with it. I have heard that the Sigma offering in 
> that range is not that good.
> 
> Food for thought...
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bruce
> 
> 
> Wednesday, February 23, 2005, 11:23:13 AM, you wrote:
> 
> ÐÐ>I use MZ-S and I am in reflection about the new lenses and 
> ÐÐ> second body also. I now about the EX 2.8/70-200 but also I am 
> ÐÐ> interesting about 4.0/100-300 and some normal and wide-angle. 
> ÐÐ> Because FA 2.8/28-70 and 2.8/80-200 are now too expensive 
> for me (if 
> ÐÐ> new) and well used are very rare here in Russia. And FAJ 
> 18-35 has a low optical quality.
> ÐÐ>In this case I try to find a good AF lenses with moderate 
> ÐÐ> prices.
>
> ÐÐ>Sincerely yours
> ÐÐ>Arthur Grokhovsky
>
> ÐÐ>P.S. Does it true, that all FA lenses are discontinued now?
>
> ÐÐ>-Original Message-
> ÐÐ> From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ÐÐ> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 9:37 PM
> ÐÐ> To: pentax list
> ÐÐ> Subject: Re: Opinions about Sigmas
>
> ÐÐ>You don't
> ÐÐ>say what system you are on but I suppose we must assume 
> ÐÐ> Pentax (as this
> ÐÐ>is supposed to be a Pentax list, ahem) in which 
> case I would always
> ÐÐ>advise a Pentax lens. Consider a well used Pentax 
> 80-200 2.8 ? If
> ÐÐ>availability is an issue, then the Sigma EX's will 
> do. They 
> ÐÐ> are *not* SMC
> ÐÐ>however..
>
>
>
>
> ÐÐ>Cheers,
> ÐÐ>  Cotty
>
>
> ÐÐ>___/\__
> ÐÐ>||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
> ÐÐ>||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
> ÐÐ>_
>
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 




FS: One more thing

2005-02-26 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl
Tamron Fotovix
with lens for 35mm AND the 6x8 upgrade kit with lens
neg & slide carriers.
All in Ex. or LN condition.
Use it to picture your slides & negs to video.
$150 for PDML
+ shipping
PayPal
Collin
-
It is a serious thing to live in a society of possible gods and goddesses, 
to remember that the dullest and
most uninteresting person you can talk to may one day be a creature which, 
if you saw it now, you would be
strongly tempted to worship, or else a horror and a corruption such as you 
now meet, if at all, only in a nightmare.
All day long we are, in some degree helping each other to one or other of 
these destinations. It is in the light of
these overwhelming possibilities, it is with the awe and the circumspection 
proper to them, that we should conduct
all our dealings with one another, all friendships, all loves, all play, 
all politics. There are no ordinary people. You
have never met a mere mortal. Nations, cultures, arts, civilizations - 
these are mortal, and their life is to ours as
the life of a gnat. But it s with immortals whom we joke with, work with, 
marry , snub, and exploit - i
mmortal horrors or everlasting splendors."
- C S Lewis




Re: Look what I scored - now FS !

2005-02-26 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: "Jens Bladt" 
Subject: RE: Look what I scored - now FS !


No, sorry, my fingers are tired. It's a common 2.0 :-(.
False advertising.
I withdraw my bid. 
William Robb


RE: Look what I scored - now FS !

2005-02-26 Thread Jens Bladt
No, sorry, my fingers are tired. It's a common 2.0 :-(.
But the 4/200mm  (K or M) should be worth a few bucks.
 

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 27. februar 2005 00:46
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Look what I scored - now FS !


Jens Bladt wrote:


>  SMC-M 1.2/50mm 

Do you really mean this?

mike




Re: colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-26 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: "Bob W" 
Subject: Re: colour shift under big lighting


not a good idea to bite the hand that feeds them.
I think of it more of a symbiotic relationship.
Something like mutual parasitism.
William Robb


Re: Hmm.. ist DS competition?

2005-02-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 26 Feb 2005 at 11:44, Peter J. Alling wrote:

> 8mp isn't enough of an improvement in resolution over 6mp to make much 
> difference, especially as
> there will be an increase in noise at higher ISOs.

Regardless it makes a world or difference as a sales and marketing lever, 
especially to those new to the market.




Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: Look what I scored - now FS !

2005-02-26 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: "mike wilson"
Subject: Re: Look what I scored - now FS !


Jens Bladt wrote:

 SMC-M 1.2/50mm
Do you really mean this?

It's a very rare lens. I bet Jens was encouraged by the other auction 
to put this lens out there for us to bid on.
I bid 7

William Robb 




RE: Opinions about Sigmas

2005-02-26 Thread Артур Гроховский
Thank you.
I have found two examples of this Tamron by one of our local dealers
and will try them shortly I hope. Very interesting lens with IF and fast AF
as I see.
   Does it true that the focus point of this lens is shifting during the
zooming?
   Does it true that the quality of this lens is very different from one
example to another?
   Also what is the opinion about the Sigma 1.8/20 in comparison to
Pentax 4.0/20-35? I also have found both lenses in our stores and I am in
doubt about the optical quality.
   Thank you.
   
   Sincerely yours,
   Arthur Grokhovsky
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 11:22 PM
   To: Артур Гроховский
   Subject: Re: Opinions about Sigmas
   
   Hello Артур,
   
   You should consider the Tamron 28-75/2.8 DI lens.  It is reasonable
price and optically very good.  I have it and am very pleased with it.
   I have heard that the Sigma offering in that range is not that good.
   
   Food for thought...
   
   --
   Best regards,
   Bruce
   
   
   
   
   
   





Re: colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-26 Thread Bob W
Hi,

> Perhaps this is the correct way to use them, in that situation.
> However...
> Watching it on TV is annoying enough. It's a bit of a surprise that 
> celebrities and public figures don't snap more often.

not a good idea to bite the hand that feeds them.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob



Re: Look what I scored - now FS !

2005-02-26 Thread mike wilson
Jens Bladt wrote:

 SMC-M 1.2/50mm 
Do you really mean this?
mike


Re: colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-26 Thread Juan Buhler
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 15:59:29 -0600, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Now, they seem to be shooting nearly continuous high speed captures.
> I was watching the Prince and Miss Camilla on the news the other day,
> and I couldn't see any way in hell that the photo boys weren't
> getting multiple flash bursts happening on the same frame.

Now, that kind of situation is a great oportunity to steal flash:

http://photos2.flickr.com/2085193_1fe64c523c.jpg


I always wonder why photogs don't do that when given the oportunity.
It's free lighting, and more interesting that an on-camera flash.

j


-- 
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com
blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog



Re: APS Sensor Size

2005-02-26 Thread mike wilson
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
I have seen APS sensors described as "APS C" and "APS H"  What'd the
difference.  Are there other APS sensor size designations?
I've never seen sensors described this way.  It's always been _print_ 
formats and the different shapes and sizes all come from crops of the 
original negative that were encoded electronically on the negative strip 
by the camera at taking - if it had the capability.

mike


Re: colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-26 Thread Frantisek
WR> Now, they seem to be shooting nearly continuous high speed captures.
WR> I was watching the Prince and Miss Camilla on the news the other day,
WR> and I couldn't see any way in hell that the photo boys weren't 
WR> getting multiple flash bursts happening on the same frame.

Har, in a few years we will become videographers ;-) Cotty beware!

And multiple flash bursts from several photogs do happen.

Fortunately my DSLR is only 3 FPS so I have to think more while shooting ;-)

Good light!
   fra



Re: colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-26 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Owens"
Subject: Re: colour shift under big lighting


It seems to me that now days, a high fps rate is more important 
than learning how to use your equipment properly.
Perhaps this is the correct way to use them, in that situation.
However...
Watching it on TV is annoying enough. It's a bit of a surprise that 
celebrities and public figures don't snap more often.

William Robb



Re: AC Adaptor for *ist-D/*ist-Ds

2005-02-26 Thread Gonz
I heard on Dpreview about a compatible ac adapter, so I bought it online 
for about $12, its a  Lenmar acon6, and it works just fine.  It supplies 
2100ma @ 6.5vDC and its a regulated DC switching supply.  Unless you are 
paranoid about getting the exact 3000ma one from Pentax, this one should 
fit the bill for alot less money.  I think Pentax wants like $70 for theirs.

Simon King wrote:
Hi All,
Has anyone bought an AC power adaptor for their *ist-D/s?
If so, I'd appreciate it if you could let me know what is power rating
(output amperage) is. 
TIA,
Simon





Re: colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-26 Thread Bill Owens
It seems to me that now days, a high fps rate is more important than 
learning how to use your equipment properly.

Bill
Something I have noticed over the past while is a change in the way 
photojournalists shoot at these types of events. I remember not too many 
years ago, watching a famous head bobbling through a crowd on TV, that the 
photographers shot in fairly short bursts, or even single shots.
Now, they seem to be shooting nearly continuous high speed captures.
I was watching the Prince and Miss Camilla on the news the other day, and 
I couldn't see any way in hell that the photo boys weren't getting 
multiple flash bursts happening on the same frame.

I don't know if this is relevent or not.
William Robb





Re: Wednesday's *isd DS photos

2005-02-26 Thread pnstenquist
Nice. The first 20mm shot is my favorite.
Paul


> Still trying out the camera.  These were taken, with various Pentax AF 
> lenses, this past Wednesday on Maine's southern coast.
> 
> http://hemenway.com/Nubble-Feb23/index.htm
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> 



Re: colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-26 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: "Frantisek"
Subject: colour shift under big lighting


  I have assumed that it's due to lighting flicker, and that
  a slower shutter speed might solve the problem? Like with
  photographing TV? If yes, what would be the good shutter speed?
  I hope it's not camera's problem...
Something I have noticed over the past while is a change in the way 
photojournalists shoot at these types of events. I remember not too 
many years ago, watching a famous head bobbling through a crowd on 
TV, that the photographers shot in fairly short bursts, or even 
single shots.
Now, they seem to be shooting nearly continuous high speed captures.
I was watching the Prince and Miss Camilla on the news the other day, 
and I couldn't see any way in hell that the photo boys weren't 
getting multiple flash bursts happening on the same frame.

I don't know if this is relevent or not.
William Robb



Re: Opinions about Tokinas (Was Sigmas)

2005-02-26 Thread Mark Cassino
From: "Joseph Tainter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi Joe -
Question for Mark Cassino:
Re:
"My conclusion was that a low resolving lens with low CA and high edge 
sharpness - which is what my tests showed the ATX 400 to be - will create 
an image with clean edges and a high degree of _apparent_ detail."

Mark, I have this lens and am interested in your observations. Would you 
please define your terms, though? What do you mean by low resolving? I am 
having trouble understanding how a lens with "high edge sharpness" can be 
"low resolving."
Here's an example: a long time ago I did a comparison of the Tokina ATX 400 
f 5.6 vs the Pentax 500 f4.5 (screwmount version.) I set up an "eye chart" 
of ever diminishing numbers, letters, punctuation marks etc. Then I set up 
the lenses so the magnification was the same, shot the chart, and compared 
the results, I was using Kodachrome 25.  When I looked at a large simple 
letter, like a 16 pt. capital 'I' at high in a high res scan, I was 
disappointed to see noticeable chromatic aberrations with the Pentax 500mm. 
There was a clear magenta blur to one side and a clear yellow blur to the 
other. The same character with the Tokina had virtually no CA - it came very 
close to going from black to white (I think there was a very little bit of 
yellow fringing.)

But then I looked at smaller characters, and found that the Tokina did not 
resolve them as well as the 500mm.  So, for example, an small '@' sign was 
just a black circle with the Tokina, albeit with crisp edges. The same 
figure was still discernable as an '@' sign with the 500mm, even though it 
was fringed with magenta.

Similarly, when you evaluate film (or digital sensors) you look at acuatance 
(edge sharpens / edge definition), resolution (the ability to display fine 
detail) and grain / noise (I'd refer you Ansel Adams' "The Negative" for 
more on that.)  I think that in evaluating lenses, the same concepts of 
acuatance and resolution come into play.  (Obviously, grain or noise is not 
an issue with lenses.)  I don't know why, but when speaking of lenses 
'sharpness' seems to be used as opposed to 'acuatance.'

Anyhow, sharpness looks at the ability to render a change in contrast 
abruptly - the quicker, the better. Resolution measures the ability to 
capture fine detail - you can almost think of it as the 'amount' of info 
captured. The two are clearly related in that high sharpness is needed for 
high resolution, but high sharpness does not guarantee high resolution.  The 
same is true of film, and there are films with lower resolving power but 
higher acuatance that can produce a sharp image, but one lacking in fine 
detail.

According to Photodo, at f8 the Tokina scores the same as the FA 400 f5.6. 
It is weaker than the Pentax wide open.
I had the Sigma for a short period of time, and traded it for the Tokina. To 
be honest, I'm basing my perceptions on the Sigma more on what I've heard 
and read about it, than based on my actual (and very limited) use of it. So, 
the two lenses may be closer in performance than I think.

But, looking at Photodo, the Sigma actually does somewhat better in the 
overall weighted average at f8 (0.77 vs 0.73). There are some real limits on 
the usefulness of the weighted average info on Photodo. It's a shame they 
pulled the raw MTF charts from their site. But if you compare the weighted 
averages at 10, 20, and 40 lpm, the Sigma does do better in these. You'd 
expect a lens that has low resolution and high sharpness to do well at the 
low lpm figure, and then drop off quickly at the higher lpm figures. The 
Tokina does that, though not radically worse than the Sigma.

- MCC
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Mark Cassino Photography
Kalamazoo, MI
www.markcassino.com
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Re: Wednesday's *isd DS photos

2005-02-26 Thread Fred
> Still trying out the camera.  These were taken, with various Pentax AF 
> lenses, this past Wednesday on Maine's southern coast.

> http://hemenway.com/Nubble-Feb23/index.htm

C'mon, Jim, you can do better than just "various Pentax AF lenses", can't
you?  Other than the obvious 43 Ltd label, what were the other lenses?
[Some of us like to know this sort of stuff - .]

As for the Nubble Light, I think I've usually seen it (ins't that the one
that's not too far up the coast from the state line?) in warmer months of
the year - looks good in your shots.

Fred




Re: [Norton AntiSpam] Special Interview with PENTAX @PMA

2005-02-26 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: "Powell Hargrave"
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Special Interview with PENTAX @PMA


On DPReview Pentax forum
Special Interview with PENTAX @PMA [English Part1]
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=12418969

The first two sentences, if the translation is accurate regarding the 
Pentax corporate philosophy, kind of explains some of what we have 
found baffling about Pentax.

William Robb 




Re: Advice needed - *istD versus *isDS

2005-02-26 Thread William Robb
I realize this wsn't meant to be posted to the list, but this 
portfolio is worth having a look at.

William Robb

http://www.hemenway.com/Castle_in_Maine
http://www.hemenway.com/NorthOfBoston/
http://www.hemenway.com/Fruitlands/
http://www.hemenway.com/More-Maine/
http://www.hemenway.com/Monadnock
http://www.hemenway.com/AFewMore/
http://www.hemenway.com/Odds-n-ends/
Here's some of my 11x14 photos, made with a big old 11x14 camera. 
The film is that size, so the following photos are actually larger 
than your monitor.  With some browsers, you can click on the photo 
and you'll then see it much larger.

http://www.hemenway.com/DarkDayAcadia/
http://www.hemenway.com/Fruitlands-11x14/
http://www.hemenway.com/11x14/images/TwistedTree-Symmar-S-360mm.jpg
http://www.hemenway.com/CharlesRiverProtar590.jpg
http://www.hemenway.com/NubbleIslandLighthouse.jpg
http://www.hemenway.com/USS-Salem-Schneider360.jpg
http://www.hemenway.com/11x14/images/SwampMaple-Ronar420mm.jpg




AC Adaptor for *ist-D/*ist-Ds

2005-02-26 Thread Simon King
Hi All,
Has anyone bought an AC power adaptor for their *ist-D/s?
If so, I'd appreciate it if you could let me know what is power rating
(output amperage) is. 
TIA,
Simon




Re: Hmm.. ist DS competition?

2005-02-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
--- Frantisek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not to sound nitpicky, but a "true spot meter" for me would
have to be
> smaller than 6mm circle. In the nikons, the spot is about the
size of
> the focusing brackets, 2.3mm (even less with the high-end
1-digit
> bodies). The 1D... canons are the same. That's a difference.
In actual
> use, the 2.3mm on my nikon is just about right in many
situations. I
> wouldn't like a meter with larger "spot".

I agree ... it's a nomenclature issue. Actually, for me a "spot
meter" is a very specific thing ... A meter with an field of
view of 1 degree. All of what Nikon, Canon, Pentax, etc call a
"spot" meter are actually "limited area" metering patterns. The
higher end Canon and Nikon models support something closer to a
small spot for reading; there's no real difference between what
the D/DS are doing compared to the Canon 10D/20D, etc.

Godfrey



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Re: APS Sensor Size

2005-02-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
> I have seen APS sensors described as "APS C" and "APS H" 
> What's the difference.  Are there other APS sensor size
designations?

Here's the whole scoop regards APS film formats vs the similar
sized DSLR sensor formats.

format: proportion - dimensions - diagonal
- --- ---
APS-C: 2:3 - 16.7x25.1mm - 30.12mm
APS-H: 9:16 - 16.7x30.2mm - 34.5mm
APS-P: 1:3 - 9.5x30.2mm - 31.65mm
FourThirds: 3:4 - 13.5x18mm - 22.5mm
Canon "APS-C": 2:3 - 15x22.5mm - 27.04mm
Nikon/Pentax/Minolta "APS-C": 2:3 - 15.7x23.5mm - 28.3mm 

APS-C film format is close but not the same as the "APS-C"
sensor formats. 

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FS: A Great Saturday

2005-02-26 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl
5x7 Speed Graphic.  Goerz lens.   f/p shutter works!
With case, keys, & focusing cloth.
pics on request.
$400
ZX-M Ex. cond.  $75
Tominon 21mm screw mount lens with Pentax S/M adapter.
$125
+ shipping  PayPal.
Collin
-
It is a serious thing to live in a society of possible gods and goddesses, 
to remember that the dullest and
most uninteresting person you can talk to may one day be a creature which, 
if you saw it now, you would be
strongly tempted to worship, or else a horror and a corruption such as you 
now meet, if at all, only in a nightmare.
All day long we are, in some degree helping each other to one or other of 
these destinations. It is in the light of
these overwhelming possibilities, it is with the awe and the circumspection 
proper to them, that we should conduct
all our dealings with one another, all friendships, all loves, all play, 
all politics. There are no ordinary people. You
have never met a mere mortal. Nations, cultures, arts, civilizations - 
these are mortal, and their life is to ours as
the life of a gnat. But it s with immortals whom we joke with, work with, 
marry , snub, and exploit - i
mmortal horrors or everlasting splendors."
- C S Lewis




Wednesday's *isd DS photos

2005-02-26 Thread Jim Hemenway
Still trying out the camera.  These were taken, with various Pentax AF 
lenses, this past Wednesday on Maine's southern coast.

http://hemenway.com/Nubble-Feb23/index.htm
Jim



Re: Special Interview with PENTAX @PMA

2005-02-26 Thread Fred
> Special Interview with PENTAX @PMA

"We have to grow this seeded pyrene."  I wonder if it's lost in the
translation, or...

"...and wants to harness sushi and the lens for inside seals now."  Oh-oh -
I see the *ist D/DS analogue of the sticky mirror starting to form...

All joking aside, it was an encouraging interview, I thought.  (But what do
I know...)

Fred




Re: Special Interview with PENTAX @PMA

2005-02-26 Thread Keith Whaley
To me, it sounds like a sound philosophy, which seems typical of how 
Pentax has grown over the last several years...
Thanks for the post. I think it's important.

keith whaley
Powell Hargrave wrote:
On DPReview Pentax forum
Special Interview with PENTAX @PMA [English Part1]
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=12418969



Re: Alternatives to vuescan

2005-02-26 Thread John Whittingham
> Processing color negatives to RGB positives ... well, you have
> to invert it, remove the crossover mask per the particular
> film's profile, then gamma correct it. I'll let Vuescan do that
> for me. ;-)

Yes me too, I'm more than pleased with the 48 bit TIFFs I'm getting, just a 
little more fine tuning and I'm away :) I'll save the RAW flies as well for 
possible future use, storage really isn't a problem these days.

Best regards,

John




Mea Culpa!

2005-02-26 Thread Jim Hemenway
Mea Culpa, I meant to send that message to Sven off list.
I didn't want to bore everyone with so many non-Pentax photos.
All this cleaning up of my email is making me groggy... I'm sorry!
Jim


Re: Hmm.. ist DS competition?

2005-02-26 Thread Peter J. Alling
That should be tongue...  (sometimes I should pay attention to the spell 
checker...)

Peter J. Alling wrote:
Actually I top and bottom post, the toung in cheak answer was mine.
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, Peter J. Alling wrote:
 

And your point?
  

The point has to be "don't top post".
Otherwise, Jim answered tongue-in-cheek the question "Does it take
Pentax glass?" below.
Kostas
 

Jim Apilado wrote:
  

I own a Canon EOS RT that has the same mount as the Canon 
digitals.  There
is a special adapter you can get that will allow the use of older 
M42 Super
Takumar and SMC Takumar lenses.

Jim A.



From: "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 12:09:01 -0500
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Hmm.. ist DS competition?
Resent-From: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 11:56:46 -0500
mike wilson wrote:

  

Ryan Lee wrote:



http://www.dpreview.com/articles/canoneos350d/
Canon 350D: About the same dimensions as the ist DS, 60g 
lighter, and 8
megapixels. Thoughts?

  
Does it take Pentax glass?


No, but it does have a mirror prism.
--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during
peacetime.
--P.J. O'Rourke

  


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during 
peacetime.
--P.J. O'Rourke

  

 



--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: Advice needed - *istD versus *isDS

2005-02-26 Thread Jim Hemenway
Hello Sven:
Your message was lost in my inbox, which until today held over 500 
messages.  I apologize for not replying to you for so long.

As you might know, I went ahead with the *ist DS because it's less 
expensive than the "D" and it has all of the features which I wanted.

As it turns out, for the older lenses, I've only used my fisheye 
screwmount.  I find the modern lenses quicker and easier to use although 
the AF takes a little getting used to.

> I remember your name from the medium format "other brand camera"
> list and I keep a bookmark for your site to show other people
> how nice landscape photograpy can be and how beautiful your
> country is.
Thanks for the compliment.  I need to update my website, the photos on 
the main page don't show any of my stuff from the last two years, here's 
some of them if you're interested and have the time:

http://www.hemenway.com/Castle_in_Maine
http://www.hemenway.com/NorthOfBoston/
http://www.hemenway.com/Fruitlands/
http://www.hemenway.com/More-Maine/
http://www.hemenway.com/Monadnock
http://www.hemenway.com/AFewMore/
http://www.hemenway.com/Odds-n-ends/
Here's some of my 11x14 photos, made with a big old 11x14 camera.  The 
film is that size, so the following photos are actually larger than your 
monitor.  With some browsers, you can click on the photo and you'll then 
see it much larger.

http://www.hemenway.com/DarkDayAcadia/
http://www.hemenway.com/Fruitlands-11x14/
http://www.hemenway.com/11x14/images/TwistedTree-Symmar-S-360mm.jpg
http://www.hemenway.com/CharlesRiverProtar590.jpg
http://www.hemenway.com/NubbleIslandLighthouse.jpg
http://www.hemenway.com/USS-Salem-Schneider360.jpg
http://www.hemenway.com/11x14/images/SwampMaple-Ronar420mm.jpg
Best Regards,
Jim Hemenway

keller.schaefer wrote:
Hello Jim,
welcome to this list (if I may say so, as I currently contribute hardly
anything).
I remember your name from the medium format "other brand camera" list and I keep
a bookmark for your site to show other people how nice landscape photograpy can
be and how beautiful your country is.
As for the *ist D and the Ds ... I have the *ist D and I am very happy with it.
I have also tried the Ds. The differences between both are marginal if you look
at how easily both can be operated, all in all. Using M or K lenses is easy on
both - I use them a lot. I use only one M42 lens on the D, a 50 mm Macro
Takumar which works fine as well.
Something that took me a while to realise: If you have time ... you don't need
ANY metering with a digital (SLR). Just select exposure according to your best
guess and give it a try, check and correct if necessary.
One last thing that has not been mentioned I think, is that there is no vertical
grip for the Ds (and will not be, as there are no contacts). I always have the
grip mounted to the D as it really improves the handling.
Also, the D has no "picture modes"...
Best Regards,
Sven Keller

Zitat von Jim Hemenway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:



Re: APS Sensor Size

2005-02-26 Thread Peter J. Alling
You sure?
Jim Apilado wrote:
That would be cool to get an Xpan Hasselblad with a panoramic APS sensor.
Jim A.
 

From: "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 12:37:46 -0500
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: APS Sensor Size
Resent-From: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 12:25:31 -0500
APS C is aps Classic, more or less the same ratio as 35mm film  (35mm ~
24x36mm, APS-C ~ 16x24)).
APS-H is the HDTV format on APS thats ~ 16x30, the other APS format is
panoramic which is 10x30mm.
As far as I now there aren't any Digital cameras that have a Panoramic
sensor.  I doubt that there are any that
have an APS-H sized sensor.  BTW all of these are only approximated by
digital manufactures, the ratios of the
sensors are not quite the same as APS or 35mm and the sensor size is a
bit smaller than APS-C as well, (though not much
smaller), Pentax for example is actually 23.5x15.7.
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
   

I have seen APS sensors described as "APS C" and "APS H"  What'd the
difference.  Are there other APS sensor size designations?
Shel 



 

--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during
peacetime.
--P.J. O'Rourke
   


 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: Opinions about Sigmas

2005-02-26 Thread Raimo K
But if it´s sharp at f:16 only?
All the best!
Raimo K
Personal photography homepage at:
http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho
- Original Message - 
From: "Joseph Tainter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "pdml" 
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 9:06 PM
Subject: RE: Opinions about Sigmas


I don't see why it requires a tripod.
Even at F5.6 you could get fast enough
shutter speeds with SLOW film in daylight.
JCO
-Original Message-
From: Joseph Tainter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 1:08 PM
To: pdml
Subject: RE: Opinions about Sigmas
"I am interesting about 4.0/100-300"
Popular Photography reviewed this lens a few years ago. Like many of
their lens reviews, one has to read between the lines. At 300 mm. it has
peripheral softness. One has to stop down to f16 to get edge-to-edge
sharpness at 300 mm. Clearly this requires a tripod. That weakness
dissuaded me from being interested in it.

J. C., please note that I specified 300 mm at f16. If you can hand-hold 
that and get a sharp image, you are a better man than I am.

Joe



Re: Hmm.. ist DS competition?

2005-02-26 Thread Peter J. Alling
Actually I top and bottom post, the toung in cheak answer was mine.
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, Peter J. Alling wrote:
 

And your point?
   

The point has to be "don't top post".
Otherwise, Jim answered tongue-in-cheek the question "Does it take
Pentax glass?" below.
Kostas
 

Jim Apilado wrote:
   

I own a Canon EOS RT that has the same mount as the Canon digitals.  There
is a special adapter you can get that will allow the use of older M42 Super
Takumar and SMC Takumar lenses.
Jim A.

 

From: "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 12:09:01 -0500
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Hmm.. ist DS competition?
Resent-From: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 11:56:46 -0500
mike wilson wrote:

   

Ryan Lee wrote:

 

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/canoneos350d/
Canon 350D: About the same dimensions as the ist DS, 60g lighter, and 8
megapixels. Thoughts?
   

Does it take Pentax glass?

 

No, but it does have a mirror prism.
--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during
peacetime.
--P.J. O'Rourke

   


 

--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
--P.J. O'Rourke
   


 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: Hmm.. ist DS competition?

2005-02-26 Thread Peter J. Alling
Ask someone else for a lecture on information theory and wave physics, I 
don't have the inclination to explain in what amounts to
cocktail party banter.  Sorry, I just don't want to type that much and 
sadly I'd need more math than I'm currently capable of. 
It may look better but is it really, if you think so that's fine, 
Canon's software hit your sweet spot.

Ryan Lee wrote:
I've had the ist D but am now I'm shooting a 20D, I dare say the 20D at 1600
looks -much- better than the ist D at 800. Would love an explanation- I'm
quite happy to go with what works..
Cheers,
Ryan
- Original Message - 
From: "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 2:44 AM
Subject: Re: Hmm.. ist DS competition?

 

8mp isn't enough of an improvement in resolution over 6mp to make much
difference, especially as
there will be an increase in noise at higher ISOs.  This will have to be
removed by software which will
probably cost quality.  If it's the usual Canon construction for their
lower end cameras the feel will just
be yucckie.
Ryan Lee wrote:
   

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/canoneos350d/
Canon 350D: About the same dimensions as the ist DS, 60g lighter, and 8
megapixels. Thoughts?
Rgds,
Ryan


 

--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during
   

peacetime.
 

--P.J. O'Rourke

   


 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




RE: Opinions about Sigmas

2005-02-26 Thread Joseph Tainter
I don't see why it requires a tripod.
Even at F5.6 you could get fast enough
shutter speeds with SLOW film in daylight.
JCO
-Original Message-
From: Joseph Tainter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 1:08 PM
To: pdml
Subject: RE: Opinions about Sigmas
"I am interesting about 4.0/100-300"
Popular Photography reviewed this lens a few years ago. Like many of
their lens reviews, one has to read between the lines. At 300 mm. it has
peripheral softness. One has to stop down to f16 to get edge-to-edge
sharpness at 300 mm. Clearly this requires a tripod. That weakness
dissuaded me from being interested in it.

J. C., please note that I specified 300 mm at f16. If you can hand-hold 
that and get a sharp image, you are a better man than I am.

Joe


Announcement, Pentax Style

2005-02-26 Thread Joseph Tainter
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=12418979
That's the best translation, but follow the other links also. It looks 
like (a) the APS-C sensor is here for a while, and (b) there will be 
more DA lenses, including limiteds.

Joe


Re: APS Sensor Size

2005-02-26 Thread Jim Apilado
That would be cool to get an Xpan Hasselblad with a panoramic APS sensor.

Jim A.

> From: "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 12:37:46 -0500
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: APS Sensor Size
> Resent-From: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 12:25:31 -0500
> 
> APS C is aps Classic, more or less the same ratio as 35mm film  (35mm ~
> 24x36mm, APS-C ~ 16x24)).
> APS-H is the HDTV format on APS thats ~ 16x30, the other APS format is
> panoramic which is 10x30mm.
> As far as I now there aren't any Digital cameras that have a Panoramic
> sensor.  I doubt that there are any that
> have an APS-H sized sensor.  BTW all of these are only approximated by
> digital manufactures, the ratios of the
> sensors are not quite the same as APS or 35mm and the sensor size is a
> bit smaller than APS-C as well, (though not much
> smaller), Pentax for example is actually 23.5x15.7.
> 
> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> 
>> I have seen APS sensors described as "APS C" and "APS H"  What'd the
>> difference.  Are there other APS sensor size designations?
>> 
>> 
>> Shel 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
> During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
> and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during
> peacetime.
> --P.J. O'Rourke
> 
> 



Special Interview with PENTAX @PMA

2005-02-26 Thread Powell Hargrave
On DPReview Pentax forum

Special Interview with PENTAX @PMA [English Part1]

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=12418969



Re: Hmm.. ist DS competition?

2005-02-26 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, Peter J. Alling wrote:

> And your point?

The point has to be "don't top post".

Otherwise, Jim answered tongue-in-cheek the question "Does it take
Pentax glass?" below.

Kostas

> Jim Apilado wrote:
>
> >I own a Canon EOS RT that has the same mount as the Canon digitals.  There
> >is a special adapter you can get that will allow the use of older M42 Super
> >Takumar and SMC Takumar lenses.
> >
> >Jim A.
> >
> >
> >
> >>From: "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> >>Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 12:09:01 -0500
> >>To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> >>Subject: Re: Hmm.. ist DS competition?
> >>Resent-From: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> >>Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 11:56:46 -0500
> >>
> >>mike wilson wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Ryan Lee wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.dpreview.com/articles/canoneos350d/
> Canon 350D: About the same dimensions as the ist DS, 60g lighter, and 8
> megapixels. Thoughts?
> 
> 
> >>>Does it take Pentax glass?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>No, but it does have a mirror prism.
> >>
> >>--
> >>I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
> >>During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
> >>and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during
> >>peacetime.
> >>--P.J. O'Rourke
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
> During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
> and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during 
> peacetime.
>   --P.J. O'Rourke
>
>



Re: Back from Dubya & Putin summit

2005-02-26 Thread Frantisek

Saturday, February 26, 2005, 6:28:32 PM, Joseph wrote:
JT> I didn't know that this was your profession. Quite an opportunity 
JT> despite the discomfort. In the future you'll (partly) forget the 
JT> discomfort and just have some good stories to tell.

Thanks. I don't do "news" regularly, so it was indeed a good
opportunity. And I didn't mind the discomfort - it's what makes it
more exciting when the photo moment comes ;-) - and I am still young
enough. Although the summit isn't the best example, if one wants good
pictures, he has to endure all sorts of discomforts. I wrote it just,
well, to describe the situation - you are waiting for a long time for
something which than takes just few minutes or seconds. And that still
makes it exciting to me, with good talks afterwards...

Good light!
   fra



Re: APS Sensor Size

2005-02-26 Thread John Francis
Shel Belinkoff mused:
> 
> I have seen APS sensors described as "APS C" and "APS H"  What'd the
> difference.  Are there other APS sensor size designations?

The true meaning of these designations is only appropriate when
used to refer to the differing aspect ratios on APS cameras.

In the DSLR world, APS C is used to refer to those cameras with a
1.5 or 1.6 crop factor, while APS H is used as shorthand for the
lower-magnification, but still not "full frame" cameras, such as
the Canon EOS-1D (not the 1Ds).

While the terminology isn't precise, it's a reasonable way to
indicate how large an image circle is required to avoid vignetting.



RE: Opinions about Sigmas

2005-02-26 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I don't see why it requires a tripod.
Even at F5.6 you could get fast enough
shutter speeds with SLOW film in daylight.
JCO

-Original Message-
From: Joseph Tainter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 1:08 PM
To: pdml
Subject: RE: Opinions about Sigmas


"I am interesting about 4.0/100-300"

Popular Photography reviewed this lens a few years ago. Like many of 
their lens reviews, one has to read between the lines. At 300 mm. it has

peripheral softness. One has to stop down to f16 to get edge-to-edge 
sharpness at 300 mm. Clearly this requires a tripod. That weakness 
dissuaded me from being interested in it.

For wide angle, I highly recommend the FA 20-35 f4. You will pay a lot 
for it, but you will never regret it.

Joe



RE: APS Sensor Size

2005-02-26 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I bet as HDTV becomes the norm & the standard
TV screen is 16:9, there will be WAY MORE 
H format digicams because digital photos look
pretty nice on a HDTV ( My 34" SONY HDTV does digital
photo display and slide shows via a memory stick slot).
JCO

-Original Message-
From: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 12:38 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: APS Sensor Size


APS C is aps Classic, more or less the same ratio as 35mm film  (35mm ~ 
24x36mm, APS-C ~ 16x24)).
APS-H is the HDTV format on APS thats ~ 16x30, the other APS format is 
panoramic which is 10x30mm.
As far as I now there aren't any Digital cameras that have a Panoramic 
sensor.  I doubt that there are any that
have an APS-H sized sensor.  BTW all of these are only approximated by 
digital manufactures, the ratios of the
sensors are not quite the same as APS or 35mm and the sensor size is a 
bit smaller than APS-C as well, (though not much
smaller), Pentax for example is actually 23.5x15.7.

Shel Belinkoff wrote:

>I have seen APS sensors described as "APS C" and "APS H"  What'd the 
>difference.  Are there other APS sensor size designations?
>
>
>Shel
>
>
>
>  
>


-- 
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during
peacetime.
--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: Hmm.. ist DS competition?

2005-02-26 Thread Ryan Lee
I've had the ist D but am now I'm shooting a 20D, I dare say the 20D at 1600
looks -much- better than the ist D at 800. Would love an explanation- I'm
quite happy to go with what works..

Cheers,
Ryan

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 2:44 AM
Subject: Re: Hmm.. ist DS competition?


> 8mp isn't enough of an improvement in resolution over 6mp to make much
> difference, especially as
> there will be an increase in noise at higher ISOs.  This will have to be
> removed by software which will
> probably cost quality.  If it's the usual Canon construction for their
> lower end cameras the feel will just
> be yucckie.
>
> Ryan Lee wrote:
>
> >http://www.dpreview.com/articles/canoneos350d/
> >Canon 350D: About the same dimensions as the ist DS, 60g lighter, and 8
> >megapixels. Thoughts?
> >
> >Rgds,
> >Ryan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> -- 
> I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
> During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
> and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during
peacetime.
> --P.J. O'Rourke
>
>
>




RE: Opinions about Sigmas

2005-02-26 Thread Joseph Tainter
"I am interesting about 4.0/100-300"
Popular Photography reviewed this lens a few years ago. Like many of 
their lens reviews, one has to read between the lines. At 300 mm. it has 
peripheral softness. One has to stop down to f16 to get edge-to-edge 
sharpness at 300 mm. Clearly this requires a tripod. That weakness 
dissuaded me from being interested in it.

For wide angle, I highly recommend the FA 20-35 f4. You will pay a lot 
for it, but you will never regret it.

Joe


Re: Opinions about Tokinas (Was Sigmas)

2005-02-26 Thread Joseph Tainter
Question for Mark Cassino:
Re:
"My conclusion was that a low resolving lens with low CA and high edge 
sharpness - which is what my tests showed the ATX 400 to be - will 
create an image with clean edges and a high degree of _apparent_ detail."

Mark, I have this lens and am interested in your observations. Would you 
please define your terms, though? What do you mean by low resolving? I 
am having trouble understanding how a lens with "high edge sharpness" 
can be "low resolving."

I'm not questioning your observations, just trying to understand what 
you mean.

According to Photodo, at f8 the Tokina scores the same as the FA 400 
f5.6. It is weaker than the Pentax wide open.

Thanks,
Joe


Re: Hmm.. ist DS competition?

2005-02-26 Thread Peter J. Alling
And your point?
Jim Apilado wrote:
I own a Canon EOS RT that has the same mount as the Canon digitals.  There
is a special adapter you can get that will allow the use of older M42 Super
Takumar and SMC Takumar lenses.
Jim A.
 

From: "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 12:09:01 -0500
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Hmm.. ist DS competition?
Resent-From: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 11:56:46 -0500
mike wilson wrote:
   

Ryan Lee wrote:
 

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/canoneos350d/
Canon 350D: About the same dimensions as the ist DS, 60g lighter, and 8
megapixels. Thoughts?
   

Does it take Pentax glass?
 

No, but it does have a mirror prism.
--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during
peacetime.
--P.J. O'Rourke
   


 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Back from Dubya & Putin summit

2005-02-26 Thread Joseph Tainter
I didn't know that this was your profession. Quite an opportunity 
despite the discomfort. In the future you'll (partly) forget the 
discomfort and just have some good stories to tell.

Joe


Re: APS Sensor Size

2005-02-26 Thread Peter J. Alling
APS C is aps Classic, more or less the same ratio as 35mm film  (35mm ~ 
24x36mm, APS-C ~ 16x24)).
APS-H is the HDTV format on APS thats ~ 16x30, the other APS format is 
panoramic which is 10x30mm.
As far as I now there aren't any Digital cameras that have a Panoramic 
sensor.  I doubt that there are any that
have an APS-H sized sensor.  BTW all of these are only approximated by 
digital manufactures, the ratios of the
sensors are not quite the same as APS or 35mm and the sensor size is a 
bit smaller than APS-C as well, (though not much
smaller), Pentax for example is actually 23.5x15.7.

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
I have seen APS sensors described as "APS C" and "APS H"  What'd the
difference.  Are there other APS sensor size designations?
Shel 


 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: Hmm.. ist DS competition?

2005-02-26 Thread Jim Apilado
I own a Canon EOS RT that has the same mount as the Canon digitals.  There
is a special adapter you can get that will allow the use of older M42 Super
Takumar and SMC Takumar lenses.

Jim A.

> From: "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 12:09:01 -0500
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: Hmm.. ist DS competition?
> Resent-From: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 11:56:46 -0500
> 
> mike wilson wrote:
> 
>> Ryan Lee wrote:
>> 
>>> http://www.dpreview.com/articles/canoneos350d/
>>> Canon 350D: About the same dimensions as the ist DS, 60g lighter, and 8
>>> megapixels. Thoughts?
>> 
>> 
>> Does it take Pentax glass?
>> 
>> 
> No, but it does have a mirror prism.
> 
> -- 
> I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
> During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
> and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during
> peacetime.
> --P.J. O'Rourke
> 
> 



Look what I scored - now FS !

2005-02-26 Thread Jens Bladt
For 300 USD I got this on a local auction:
1 chrome MX with a 35-105 Tokina (perhaps for me :-)
1 chrome ME with a 200mm Pentax lense (don't know which) and a Osram Studio
flash (for sale)
1 chrome MG with a SMC-M 1.2/50mm and a Hanimex flash (for sale)

Any pre-ebay offers on these cameras, with or without glass?
If I can make a buck it's fine, if not I geuess they are still nice cameras
:-)

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 26. februar 2005 18:04
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Alternatives to vuescan


--- John Whittingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hmm. My calculator spreadsheet says that a 24x35mm frame
scanned
> > at 2438ppi nets an image 2304x3455 pixels in size, or 7.6
> > Mpixel. Something's off by a little bit somewhere... ;-)
>
> Never calculated it just reading from the manual, shouldn't
> that be 24mm x 36mm ?

Typo on my part, the spreadsheet is correct. If you got the
numbers from the scanner specification sheet, that's more
accurate as the scanner's maximum scannable area is likely not
exactly 24x36mm.

> > RAW is really the name of a format type, a "RAW file" means
a
> > different thing for every device that can create it. Vuescan
> > simply encode the metadata and sensor data into a very
simple
> > TIFF format. If you analyze a Pentax .PEF file, it also is
> > essentially a TIFF file with embedded metadata, a couple of
JPEG
> > low rez renders, and the sensor data in a tagged structure.
>
> Right, so a raw file might have any file extension (propriety)
> depending on  the device that created it. When looking at the
files
> yesterday at work it  was just (obviously) an exact scan of
the negative (when
> viewed with  Photoshop CS) no rotation or anything. I tried
inverting to
> give me a  positive and that gave me an image that would
require a lot of
> editing, I'm  missing something...yes?

Vuescan's RAW has minimal metadata (he generates the processing
parameters by analyzing the scan data on the fly) and the sensor
data is basically just a row x column matrix of RGB pixel data
with linear gamma, that's typically what scanners produce as
straight output. Processing RAW output from B&W negative scans
means doing the inversion required and then adding the gamma
curve conversion to what our eyes like to see... relatively
simple to do. Processing RAW output from color positives is
somewhat trickier as color positives have a higher gamma than
negatives to begin with.

Processing color negatives to RGB positives ... well, you have
to invert it, remove the crossover mask per the particular
film's profile, then gamma correct it. I'll let Vuescan do that
for me. ;-)

Godfrey



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RE: APS Sensor Size

2005-02-26 Thread J. C. O'Connell
It think its C= classic = 1.5:1 aspect, H=HDTV = 16:9 = 1.78:1 aspect.
Don't know the dimensions or if these designations only refer to aspect
ratios.
JCO

-Original Message-
From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 12:08 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: APS Sensor Size


I have seen APS sensors described as "APS C" and "APS H"  What'd the
difference.  Are there other APS sensor size designations?


Shel 




Re: Hmm.. ist DS competition?

2005-02-26 Thread Frantisek
GD> I have heard this thing about Canon having no "true spot meter"
GD> so many times... 
GD> It's incorrect. Even the Canon 10D has a "limited area metering"
GD> mode which is virtually identical in size to what Pentax calls a
GD> "spot" meter. If you read the instruction booklets for both
GD> cameras and look at the meter patterns, you'll find that Pentax'
GD> spot is about a 5.5mm circle, the 10D's limited area is about
GD> 6.5mm. 

Not to sound nitpicky, but a "true spot meter" for me would have to be
smaller than 6mm circle. In the nikons, the spot is about the size of
the focusing brackets, 2.3mm (even less with the high-end 1-digit
bodies). The 1D... canons are the same. That's a difference. In actual
use, the 2.3mm on my nikon is just about right in many situations. I
wouldn't like a meter with larger "spot".

:-)

Good light!
   fra



Re: Back from Dubya & Putin summit

2005-02-26 Thread Frantisek
>> yesterday night I arrived back home from the summit of Bush and Putin
>> (RF's president, for anybody so uninformed to not know!),

F> ...then who's "Bush"?

I don't know ;-)

Good light!
   fra



APS Sensor Size

2005-02-26 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I have seen APS sensors described as "APS C" and "APS H"  What'd the
difference.  Are there other APS sensor size designations?


Shel 




Re: Alternatives to vuescan

2005-02-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
--- John Whittingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hmm. My calculator spreadsheet says that a 24x35mm frame
scanned
> > at 2438ppi nets an image 2304x3455 pixels in size, or 7.6
> > Mpixel. Something's off by a little bit somewhere... ;-)
> 
> Never calculated it just reading from the manual, shouldn't
> that be 24mm x 36mm ?

Typo on my part, the spreadsheet is correct. If you got the
numbers from the scanner specification sheet, that's more
accurate as the scanner's maximum scannable area is likely not
exactly 24x36mm. 

> > RAW is really the name of a format type, a "RAW file" means
a
> > different thing for every device that can create it. Vuescan
> > simply encode the metadata and sensor data into a very
simple
> > TIFF format. If you analyze a Pentax .PEF file, it also is
> > essentially a TIFF file with embedded metadata, a couple of
JPEG
> > low rez renders, and the sensor data in a tagged structure.
> 
> Right, so a raw file might have any file extension (propriety)
> depending on  the device that created it. When looking at the
files
> yesterday at work it  was just (obviously) an exact scan of
the negative (when
> viewed with  Photoshop CS) no rotation or anything. I tried
inverting to
> give me a  positive and that gave me an image that would
require a lot of
> editing, I'm  missing something...yes?

Vuescan's RAW has minimal metadata (he generates the processing
parameters by analyzing the scan data on the fly) and the sensor
data is basically just a row x column matrix of RGB pixel data
with linear gamma, that's typically what scanners produce as
straight output. Processing RAW output from B&W negative scans
means doing the inversion required and then adding the gamma
curve conversion to what our eyes like to see... relatively
simple to do. Processing RAW output from color positives is
somewhat trickier as color positives have a higher gamma than
negatives to begin with. 

Processing color negatives to RGB positives ... well, you have
to invert it, remove the crossover mask per the particular
film's profile, then gamma correct it. I'll let Vuescan do that
for me. ;-)

Godfrey



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Re: Hmm.. ist DS competition?

2005-02-26 Thread Peter J. Alling
8mp isn't enough of an improvement in resolution over 6mp to make much 
difference, especially as
there will be an increase in noise at higher ISOs.  This will have to be 
removed by software which will
probably cost quality.  If it's the usual Canon construction for their 
lower end cameras the feel will just
be yucckie.

Ryan Lee wrote:
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/canoneos350d/
Canon 350D: About the same dimensions as the ist DS, 60g lighter, and 8
megapixels. Thoughts?
Rgds,
Ryan

 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: Hmm.. ist DS competition?

2005-02-26 Thread Peter J. Alling
mike wilson wrote:
Ryan Lee wrote:
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/canoneos350d/
Canon 350D: About the same dimensions as the ist DS, 60g lighter, and 8
megapixels. Thoughts?

Does it take Pentax glass?

No, but it does have a mirror prism.
--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: Hmm.. ist DS competition?

2005-02-26 Thread Ryan Lee
Of course I wasn't suggesting it was the camera to switch systems for. Like
I'd be that bold! I'm suggesting that DSLR manufacturers need to stay
somewhat competitive in emerging markets as well.

This newcomer is pretty much the same size (and lighter) as the ist DS, and
at 8mp, and cheaper than most of the 6.3mp's around now (the ist DS is
slightly cheaper, but people often go "it's a hundred dollars more, but it's
2 megapixels more!"), it's definitely going to be very tempting to an SLR
virgin. Not to mention the price is list price, it often comes out cheaper
doesn't it?

I think it's exciting news because unlike with the 20D, it looks like this
is a direct assault on the competition's strong markets (ist D, ist DS,
D70).

I also think it's pretty astute of Canon not to shoot themselves in the foot
like Nikon did with the D70 making the D100 more or less obsolete (the 350D
has an 8.0mp sensor, while the 20D still hangs on to its 8.3mp).

Bottom line, I want to know which battle Pentax (actually Nikon too for that
matter) will choose to fight. Can they take on the 20D? I'm not even sure
they've got the scale to take on the 350D in terms of price! I'd much rather
see a 10mp "ist Dx" than them cut the ist ds price in half..

Thoughts?

Cheers,
Ryan




- Original Message - 
From: "Alin Flaider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ryan Lee" 
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: Hmm.. ist DS competition?


>
>   The too small viewfinder denies the other main reason for operating
>   a DSLR. No true spot meter either. Certainly not the camera to
>   switch systems for.
>
>   Servus,  Alin
>
> Ryan wrote:
> RL> http://www.dpreview.com/articles/canoneos350d/
> RL> Canon 350D: About the same dimensions as the ist DS, 60g lighter, and
8
> RL> megapixels. Thoughts?
>
>
>




Re: Back from Dubya & Putin summit

2005-02-26 Thread Fred
> yesterday night I arrived back home from the summit of Bush and Putin
> (RF's president, for anybody so uninformed to not know!),

...then who's "Bush"?

Fred




Re: FS Friday - FA* Lenses and more....

2005-02-26 Thread Fred

>>> I consider it up to the seller of an item to establish a price.

>> I agree, you're turning this into an 'off eekbay' auction. At least let
>> us know what you'd 'like to get' so we know where "reasonable" might
>> lie. Do some research on eBay, it'll give you real world numbers as to
>> what this stuff is bringing.

Agreed.

> Can we just settle on a currency and get this auction under way?

;-)

Fred




Re: FS Friday - FA* Lenses and more....

2005-02-26 Thread Fred
> I'll give you a buck for the whole lot, ok?

 (I'll go $1.50)

>>> I'm in for $2.25. Heck, I'll even bid that in US$

>> 4.50 in euros.

> 5 Quatloos

See - it's just like eBay - mention an auction here and the auction bids
start skyrocketing...

Fred




colour shift under big lighting

2005-02-26 Thread Frantisek
Hi,
   what would be the safe shutter speed to avoid the colour and
   contrast shift under high intensity lighting? Always when I am
   shooting some event lit by something like that, I get incosistent
   colours in a burst of frames. I hope it's not the camera
   (elsewhere it worked fine, and it's on manual settings now auto
   WB), but the flickering of the light which either changes in
   spectral emmission or changes intensity. I noticed it again on the
   B-P summit, where outdoor events were either fully lit or filled in
   by big floods, frame to frame the colours shift a bit, with some
   contrast change as well.

   I have assumed that it's due to lighting flicker, and that
   a slower shutter speed might solve the problem? Like with
   photographing TV? If yes, what would be the good shutter speed?

   I hope it's not camera's problem...

   Thanks!
   
Good light!
   fra



Re: Back from Dubya & Putin summit

2005-02-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Feb 26, 2005, at 9:56 AM, Frantisek wrote:
.. (flames offlist please )

That goes double for you young fellow.


Re: Alternatives to vuescan

2005-02-26 Thread John Whittingham
> Hmm. My calculator spreadsheet says that a 24x35mm frame scanned
> at 2438ppi nets an image 2304x3455 pixels in size, or 7.6
> Mpixel. Something's off by a little bit somewhere... ;-)

Never calculated it just reading from the manual, shouldn't that be 24mm x 
36mm ?

> RAW is really the name of a format type, a "RAW file" means a
> different thing for every device that can create it. Viewscan
> simply encode the metadata and sensor data into a very simple
> TIFF format. If you analyze a Pentax .PEF file, it also is
> essentially a TIFF file with embedded metadata, a couple of JPEG
> low rez renders, and the sensor data in a tagged structure.

Right, so a raw file might have any file extension (propriety) depending on 
the device that created it. When looking at the files yesterday at work it 
was just (obviously) an exact scan of the negative (when viewed with 
Photoshop CS) no rotation or anything. I tried inverting to give me a 
positive and that gave me an image that would require a lot of editing, I'm 
missing something...yes?

John





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