date:20050503

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob W"
Subject: RE: PDML IS ALIVE (was:Re: Why and How...etc)


Hi,
If/When we ever meet face to face, I'll buy you one.
that's very kind of you. Cotty needs a new face.
You are being very kind.
William Robb

Re: Why and How I switched to Canon (for those who care) long

- Original Message - 
From: "P. J. Alling"
Subject: Re: Why and How I switched to Canon (for those who care) long

Yep, that's true, if the intended audience still has those lenses.  Look 
at the relatively low prices on used medium format gear lately.
Yup. I was planning on selling my 6x7 gear to Cakalic for loads of money, 
and then retiring.
Won't happen now.
I'll keep the stuff for what it'll fetch on the market.

William Robb

RE: PDML IS ALIVE (was:Re: Why and How...etc)

2005-05-03 Thread Bob W

Hi,

> If/When we ever meet face to face, I'll buy you one.

that's very kind of you. Cotty needs a new face.



Bob (haven't used a Pentax for years)

Re: Why and How I switched to Canon (for those who care) long

2005-05-03 Thread P. J. Alling

Yep, that's true, if the intended audience still has those lenses.  Look 
at the relatively low prices on used medium format gear lately.  There's 
a huge supply, probably from all those pros who realized that they could 
get by with FF 35mm for quality.  If I had a few of those lenses I'd be 
happy, if I'd already dumped them I wouldn't be re-acquiring them.  
Pentax may be making a bunch of hobbyists who've decided to acquire an 
inexpensive 645 system very happy.

William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling"
Subject: Re: Why and How I switched to Canon (for those who care) long

 Pentax will have to be clearly superior, I don't think they will be, 
maybe better, but not enough to make anyone change systems.

If you already have a load of 645 lenses, an 18mp digital body might 
be a nice accessory.

William Robb


--
A man's only as old as the woman he feels.
--Groucho Marx

Re: Why and How I switched to Canon (for those who care) long

2005-05-03 Thread P. J. Alling

Pål you miss my point.  When Medium format gave a huge advantage in 
quality over the output from 35mm I would agree.  The difference in 
output between the MF digital and 35mm full frame digital is bound to be 
much lower.  The pixel density of the Pentax won't lead to that much of 
an improvement in noise over the 35mm sized sensor. I haven't done the 
math, and there may be counter intuitive results, but I don't think so.  
Canon's fast glass may not be as good wide open as the Pentax 645 
glass.  On the other hand they are certainly superior at any aperture 
wider than 2.8

Pål Jensen wrote:
Peter wrote:
"No matter what Pål believes about the relative equality between Pentax 645 lenses, 
in cost and capabilities, and Canon L lenses. There is at least one important aspect 
where the 645 lenses fall short, speed. You don't see too many Pentax Medium format f2.8 
zooms. or for that matter f2 or faster primes. That alone will put the the 11mp Pentax 
645D at a competitive disadvantage with the Canon 16mp EOS based DSLR. Pentax will see 
the writing on the wall cut their losses and not ever release it. That's bad enough."
REPLY:
The lack of fast lenses for medium format (film) didn't stop MF in being a 
viable alternative. The fact is that fast lenses isn't needed. Using 1000ISO 
slide film an a 645 gives equal result as 100ISO slide film in a 35mm camera 
with a fast lens. Granted, you won't get the MF advantage but you are not 
handicapped. For digital the relations will be similar. Besides, high-quality 
digital will probably be prefered for nature/outdoor and studio use where lens 
speed isn't that important. Often, faster lenses are less desireable for hese 
purposes due to lower optical quality and more flare.
Pål


 


--
A man's only as old as the woman he feels.
--Groucho Marx

Re: Film in your hands...

William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: "Cesar"Subject: Film in your hands...


I must admit to feeling trepidation at taking 1/60 sec handheld shots 
with the 67.  Feeling the mirror move - or was it just the sound?- 
made me think that all the shots would be blurry.   

Its a 1.8mb download, but it should allay your fears.
No, the nickel is not glued to the screen
http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/IMGP0384.MOVWilliam Robb

William,
I have this on my desktop.  I actually showed it to a coworker who 
commented on the mirror while dry firing the 67.  I am well aware of the 
smoothness of the 67, it just catches a person off guard after using the 
*ist D a lot.  Maybe the effect would not be as bad if I used my LX more 
ofter ;-)

I can see we will have some fun at GFMtn,
César
Panama City, Florida

Photographic projects...

This is something that I started thinking about when Boris mentioned his 
newly started project.
I cannot consider the aspect of taking the camera for a walk - one, 
because I drive to and from work; and two, I usually do not go out for 
lunch.  Also three, I cannot technically have a camera at work due to 
security concerns...
But as I drive around I see 'progress' come along and notice the scenery 
changing, I think about the lost opportunities to document what used to be.
We have had comments about how certain pictures 'did not do anything for 
me' or 'this is just a snapshot', but it is often the ordinary shot that 
has some significance later on down the road.

I have noted this more so once I worked (for three consecutive years) at 
a Mayan archaeological dig in northern Belize (which reminds me that I 
need to get back on a site).  It is the mundane that carries so much 
information.  I have been to the Leica gallery in NYC quite often.  I 
find that the street photography catches my attention more than the 
capturing of important moments or people.  You are more apt to place 
yourself in an ordinary shot than one with a politcal or entertainment 
figure.  This is the type of involvement I try to have occur whenever I 
see an image.  Even if it is a 'just' a nature shot, I can still place 
myself in that field, that mountain top, that valley...

As my area is not truly urban - but then again what is after growing up 
in NYC? - there is no chance of taking 'street photos' like some can do 
on this list, but I can think of at least a half dozen places that 
intrigue me that I would enjoy going out to 'document' them.  There are 
those on this list who have shown that just walking around the 
neighborhood or even back yard you can make some awesome images.  Our 
'photographic eye' can enable us all to document our world, even if it 
is just a family get together or a child sleeping, so whether your tools 
lie in 35mm, digital, 645, 6x7, 4x5, 8x10, 110, or even a Holga (!) 
every shot conveys a message.
I watched a show concerning the history of the paparazzi the other 
night.  Many of the images were soft.  Yet they conveyed plenty.  It 
reminds me of a family member who upon showing me a fuzzy picture of 
some people and having me comment on that aspect (camera too close to 
the subject) commented that you could still make out who everyone is.

Apologies for the rambling, but after seeing some of the threads 
'evolve' and actually taking some time to address the list, I just felt 
I could air some of my thoughts.

This is not prompted by my sipping on 2001 Bennett Cellars Knights 
Valley Merlot :-)

César
Panama City, Florida

Re: Film in your hands...

Make that:
http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/IMGP0384.MOV
- Original Message - 
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: Film in your hands...

- Original Message - 
From: "Cesar"Subject: Film in your hands...

I must admit to feeling trepidation at taking 1/60 sec handheld shots 
with the 67.  Feeling the mirror move - or was it just the sound?- made 
me think that all the shots would be blurry.   
Its a 1.8mb download, but it should allay your fears.
No, the nickel is not glued to the screen
http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/IMGP0384.MOVWilliam Robb

trying to answer Mark ROberts email....

2005-05-03 Thread Ann Sanfedele

ack -
Mark - I'm not sure if it is a bug or what but I
can't answer your off-list mail about our GFM
plans

for some reason your server thinks I'm spam :(

is it real???
I deleted the delivery failure notices and didnt
open the non-plain text stuff

annsan

the last one had this message:

The following message to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
was undeliverable.
The reason for the problem:
5.1.0 - Unknown address error 554-"Spamtraps don't
want to talk to you - message refused."

   Part 1.2

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   message/delivery-status
   Part 1.3

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Re: Film in your hands...

- Original Message - 
From: "Cesar"Subject: Film in your hands...



I must admit to feeling trepidation at taking 1/60 sec handheld shots 
with the 67.  Feeling the mirror move - or was it just the sound?- made 
me think that all the shots would be blurry.   
Its a 1.8mb download, but it should allay your fears.
No, the nickel is not glued to the screen
http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/IMGP0384.MOVWilliam Robb

Re: Moral Dilemma

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom C"
Subject: Re: Moral Dilemma


You just became the biggest whipped man I know. Blue rare steaks, my eye! 
:)
For this sacrifice, I'd be looking at a 4x5 rig for our next vacation..
William Robb

Re: Why and How I switched to Canon (for those who care) long

- Original Message - 
From: "P. J. Alling"
Subject: Re: Why and How I switched to Canon (for those who care) long

 Pentax will have to be clearly superior, I don't think they will be, 
maybe better, but not enough to make anyone change systems.
If you already have a load of 645 lenses, an 18mp digital body might be a 
nice accessory.

William Robb

Re: Film in your hands...

2005-05-03 Thread Jim Apilado

More power to you in handling this giant Pentax.  I recall when they first
came out and realize its size and weight were not for me.  When I got a 645,
I knew this was the MF camera for me.

Jim a.

> From: Cesar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 23:49:50 -0500
> To: PDML 
> Subject: Film in your hands...
> Resent-From: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Resent-Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 00:49:54 -0400
> 
> I got back my first roll of 120 slide film shot through my very own 67
> (I shot some 67 film earlier using Bob S.'s gear at GFMtn) yesterday.
> It felt great even just looking at the images with the overhead light.
> Once I put it on a light box - wow!  I have to go and compare sizes with
> the 645...
> 
> Being that I shot it will lunching with coworkers during a beach
> cleanup, I took it into work so they could see.  Everyone commented on
> the size of the film.  They were just ordinary shots but they were all
> impressed.  I will try to see about scanning a shot or two to post
> somewhere.  Even an ordinary shot of a friend's Toyota with a kayak on
> top was enough to make people go wow!  I was using the Pentaprism so I
> used a handheld meter for settings.  I think I got better shots than
> with the *ist D.  I have to study this result - these were snapshots and
> taken without much thinking so a study while taking my time is in order...
> 
> The 645n is easier to handle, but the 67 has enough newness that I want
> to go out and just shoot with it.  Maybe I need to get a grip for it :-)
> A PDML lurker sent me a manual for it and the 67II.  This list is
> great!  Now if I can get someone to send me some lenses =-O
> 
> I already have a Pelican case for the 645n, maybe I need to get one for
> the, eventual, 67 system...  though, I do have a an old Hakuba metal
> carrying case that a friend gave me a while ago that I can press into
> service.  I just need to take the Nikon F3 and lenses out of it.  Hey,
> priorities are priorities.
> 
> I must admit to feeling trepidation at taking 1/60 sec handheld shots
> with the 67.  Feeling the mirror move - or was it just the sound?- made
> me think that all the shots would be blurry.   Unfounded fears.  I may
> play around with the handholding a bit with this camera.  Now if only I
> can get a good deal on some 120/220 film - even old stuff.  This
> experimenting can get expensive.
> I have yet to try out the folding focusing hood or the TTL Pentaprism.
> I may try the TTL this weekend at the triathlon.  Then again there is
> flash to try out too...  and just how does the leaf shutter work? ;-)
> These are the times that I wish I were back in NYC with more interesting
> variety of photo opportunities... Don't worry though, I can find
> interesting enough -to me- shots to take.
> I try to document the whole triathlon experience at our races, from
> registration, preparation, the race, to past the finish line.  Those are
> the times I wish I had an assistant to keep the gear coming to me when I
> need it :-)
> 
> Sorry about the rambling, just enjoying the time away from it all and
> spending it with the list,
> 
> César
> Panama City, Florida
> 
> P.S.  When I get back up north to Baltimore can I still call it a PDML
> get together when I see Christian and TV? ;-)
>

RE: Hello and Sensor cleaning

2005-05-03 Thread williamsp

Quoting "McRae, Max MS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I was told that it would be done to "food quality" standards, so expected
> total cleanliness.
> 

There are "food grade" lubes. That is probably what you got on your sensor.



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Re: PAW: Half and Half

2005-05-03 Thread williamsp

> Boris Liberman:
> >
> > http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=186120
> >

When this is part of a year long set or whatever yoiu intend it will be fine and
dandy, As a standalone pic it is a bit less than gripping viewing. Put it in its
proper context and we'll look again.




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Film in your hands...

I got back my first roll of 120 slide film shot through my very own 67 
(I shot some 67 film earlier using Bob S.'s gear at GFMtn) yesterday. 
It felt great even just looking at the images with the overhead light.  
Once I put it on a light box - wow!  I have to go and compare sizes with 
the 645...

Being that I shot it will lunching with coworkers during a beach 
cleanup, I took it into work so they could see.  Everyone commented on 
the size of the film.  They were just ordinary shots but they were all 
impressed.  I will try to see about scanning a shot or two to post 
somewhere.  Even an ordinary shot of a friend's Toyota with a kayak on 
top was enough to make people go wow!  I was using the Pentaprism so I 
used a handheld meter for settings.  I think I got better shots than 
with the *ist D.  I have to study this result - these were snapshots and 
taken without much thinking so a study while taking my time is in order...

The 645n is easier to handle, but the 67 has enough newness that I want 
to go out and just shoot with it.  Maybe I need to get a grip for it :-)
A PDML lurker sent me a manual for it and the 67II.  This list is 
great!  Now if I can get someone to send me some lenses =-O

I already have a Pelican case for the 645n, maybe I need to get one for 
the, eventual, 67 system...  though, I do have a an old Hakuba metal 
carrying case that a friend gave me a while ago that I can press into 
service.  I just need to take the Nikon F3 and lenses out of it.  Hey, 
priorities are priorities.

I must admit to feeling trepidation at taking 1/60 sec handheld shots 
with the 67.  Feeling the mirror move - or was it just the sound?- made 
me think that all the shots would be blurry.   Unfounded fears.  I may 
play around with the handholding a bit with this camera.  Now if only I 
can get a good deal on some 120/220 film - even old stuff.  This 
experimenting can get expensive.
I have yet to try out the folding focusing hood or the TTL Pentaprism.  
I may try the TTL this weekend at the triathlon.  Then again there is 
flash to try out too...  and just how does the leaf shutter work? ;-)
These are the times that I wish I were back in NYC with more interesting 
variety of photo opportunities... Don't worry though, I can find 
interesting enough -to me- shots to take.
I try to document the whole triathlon experience at our races, from 
registration, preparation, the race, to past the finish line.  Those are 
the times I wish I had an assistant to keep the gear coming to me when I 
need it :-)

Sorry about the rambling, just enjoying the time away from it all and 
spending it with the list,

César
Panama City, Florida
P.S.  When I get back up north to Baltimore can I still call it a PDML 
get together when I see Christian and TV? ;-)

Re: Why and How I switched to Canon (for those who care) long

2005-05-03 Thread P. J. Alling

I think I was comparing the output from a 16mp 35mm SLR replacement,
(Canon), and the output from an 18mp 645D, taking the projected price of
the 645D into account. The output should be comparable. The lenses of
the Canon will be faster. I don't think the Canon will be smaller or
lighter but I don't the 645D is a particularly good place to be putting
product development money. It's too little too late, the competition is
already there, and in advertising terms, if not in reality, superior.
By the time Pentax actually gets the Camera out, most of the medium
format users who need to go digital will be using Canon 35mm. If they
don't need speed they might even buy the Kodak DCS 14c/n, the upgraded
version is supposed to be quite good, and considerably less expensive
than the Canon. That's what Pentax is competing with. Pentax will have
to be clearly superior, I don't think they will be, maybe better, but
not enough to make anyone change systems.

Pål Jensen wrote:
Peter wrote:
"If you're on a budget and who isn't are you going to have two expensive
incompatible digital systems to support or will you use the one that's more
flexible."
REPLY:
If you look at the Pentax 645 NII it is far more flexible in terms of output quality than 35mm. I can shoot at 1600 ISO and get publishable results whereas 35mm in order to yield outstanding quality need to be bolted to a tripod with fine slow film. The same relation is true for digital.
Remember that lots of people have learned to live with bulky, old fashioned MF cameras in order to get better output in spite of more flexibility with 35mm. I don't think a switch to digital will make bigger real estate and less magnification for a certain end result obsolete. Remember too that a Pentax 645D will be similar in functionality and size as a full frame DSLR. So the difference will be smaller than the differences between a Hasselblad and a EOS-1.

Pål

--
A man's only as old as the woman he feels.
--Groucho Marx

Re: Moral Dilemma

2005-05-03 Thread Tom C

You just became the biggest whipped man I know. Blue rare steaks, my eye! :)
Tom C.

From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: 
Subject: Re: Moral Dilemma
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 21:26:25 -0600
- Original Message - From: "Shaun Canning"
Subject: Moral Dilemma

We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North 
Queensland with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to
take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do I:

1. Leave camera at home,
Correct answer.
William Robb

Re: PAW: Half and Half

Hi!
First, good for you, going out with a camera every day is a great way to
learn and to develop your vision and style.  Also, it's important to be
familiar with the environment in which you're photographing.  Revisiting a
place frequently (such as walking the same route every day) or sitting and
observing a place for a while, is good technique.  You can study the light,
the neighborhood characters and the dynamics of the area, and, most
important, you become part of the scenery yourself, and both you and your
camera become accepted.
The light is problematic of course. Midday in Israel is ain't no piece 
of cake photographically. I hate to admit, but I have to bring with me 
the pol filter just in case. And sometimes I would put on the orange 
filter, so that I can handle the light just a bit easier...

I think the framing is a bit too tight.  Would love to see more of the
sign.  The guy on the phone is cliché and annoying in that he's not doing
anything interesting, and his being there doesn't lend much to the pic. 
What's his relationship to the sign?  What's the story here?  More sign may
tell more story.  People on cell phones are becoming all too common, so in
order to make a person on a cell phone interesting, you've gotta catch them
doing something interesting or have them in a more interesting situation.
Shel, if you don't mind, please give me an example of a scene involving 
cell phone that is considered hmmm interesting?

A couple of people have commented on the flat colors.  Yeah, they're a
little flat, but perhaps more interesting than having them "pop."  The
overdone "Velvia look" and super saturated colors are becoming boring and
overdone, and the look they impart to many photos is unrealistic and, at
least for me, unpleasant.  Somewhere between what you've got and colors
that POP! is a good middle ground for this one, although I like the colors
and the saturation of the sign just fine the way it is.  It looks realistic
and like it's been exposed to the weather a bit.
Thank you. At least I am not all alone in my vision here :).
Here's a thought:  Station yourself in a place where you can get a good
shot of the sign and just wait.  See what happens with people walking by,
or stopping by the sign, perhaps to light a cigarette or talk, or look in a
particular direction ... those stockings and the style of the lettering
remind me of the 1940's or early 1950's.  What can you do with that?  Maybe
nothing, but maybe Humphry Bogart will come along and light a smoke, and
make an interesting juxtaposition ;-))
That I intend to do. Like I said, I started a project and it takes time.
Awaiting your off-list response :).
Boris

Re: PAW: Half and Half

Hi!
Boris, it's just full of pictures! :-)
To be fair, there are a couple of pages at the back with captions to the
pictures, and an acknowledgements page, and in my copy they are in
English. The pictures speak the most honest words though ;-))
I see. Well, I'd rather read some words... But that's totally different 
discussion.

Boris

Re: PAW: Half and Half

Hi!
I like its composition, but the light is too flat. May
be converting it to b&w and adding contrast can make
it way better.
Thanks Albano. I'll try that. I took a quick look at b/w version but 
without added contrast it did not appeal to me.

Thanks again!
Boris

Re: PAW: Half and Half

Hi!
"On My Way To Work" has been one of my favorite
projects for several years, first with slides and
lately with my Optio 33L (the PZ-1p is too much to
have in my bag everyday).  It makes me slow down a
bit, and recognize that there can be more to the walk
to work than getting to work!
This shot is nicely composed and exposed, but doesn't
do anything for me.  There just isn't enough "tension"
or irony between the guy on the phone and the legs on
the sign--or am I missing something?
All the irony I wanted to show here was half his body and half (well, 
less than half) of her body on the sign...

But thanks anyway. Indeed PZ-1p is rather big beast, at least by Pentax 
measure :).

Boris

Re: PAW: Half and Half

Hi!
Subject wise it doesn't do anything for me. 
Photographically the colors are too flat for my liking. I'd like a little pop (saturation). 
Ken, that would be one of my personal preferences. I like it to be 
somewhat subdued - not way too sharp, not way to contrasty, not way too 
saturated. Although I did not play with saturation - it came out this way.

I will have to play more with saturation control except default and b/w 
positions.

Thanks.
Boris

Re: PAW: Half and Half

Hi!
The photo seems acceptably focused and exposed, but doesn't have much 
going on in it. I'd have wanted to see some interaction between the man 
with the cell phone and the graphic ... instead he's looking at the 
camera and the graphic is just there.
Thanks. Well, having managed this much (or this little) I can go on 
forward... I'll keep what you said in mind.

Boris

Re: Thanks to Bojidar Dimitrov

Hi!
Has anyone here said thanks to Boz for his April 30 promise to keep
updating his Pentax K-mount page?  It's been a terrific resource for
many of us for a long time, and it looks as thought he's going to
keep it going for us.  Thanks, Boz!
Second that!
Boris

Re: Life, the List and Everything

Hi!
My Linux server at work is named "pentaxian.office.###.com"  I have no
intention of renaming it.
Heck, both my home PC and office PC are named "Pentax" ;).
Gentlemen, let's revert to the state where *no* i-words and f-words, and 
other such words are in use...

Thank you so much!
Boris

Re: Ist-D or Ist-Ds ?

Hi!
I have no idea why my last reponse posted to PDML three times. I only 
sent it once.
That thought occurred to me as well :).
I think I'd find it easier and more consistent to just switch the camera 
to manual focus in those instances rather than C-AF. I only use C-AF 
when I'm trying to do follow focus at the motor races or similar 
circumstances, that's why it's not much of a loss to me. When I'm 
working around autofocus ambiguities, manual focus does the job.
With my eyes and soft lens, manual focus is difficult. My friend made 
for me a single element soft lens that I still have. As a basis we chose 
cheap Russian lens.

Here is a short write up we produced:
http://boris.isra-shop.com/monocle.htm.
This lens is rather difficult to focus on modern AF bodies with my 
rather poor eye-sight, even with glasses. I really liked the idea of 
soft focus lens and so I eventually bought a gen-u-vine ;) optic. One of 
the main reasons was AF.

Then again, some of the 1/4 of the list population could say that gear 
of a certain company has full time manual focus override :).

.. I suppose we're trying to convence each other of the same thing we 
both accept. Your habits and style are best suited by Ds. Mine are in 
line with D. Neither is better or worse. Like I said, in my humble 
opinion, to my habits and style D appeals more, nothing more, nothing 
less.

Perhaps. But either camera would work equally well for me; the DS is 
simpler, smaller, faster and cheaper.  I don't like to see judgments 
about one or the other being  'a better tool for photography' which are 
insubstantive. They are both very good tools, and very nearly equal in 
capability.
I meant to say that as a tool (set of features and abilities) D is 
better tool for me, for my photography. I've been struggling with MZ-6 
quirks for a long time. Then I tried PZ-1 and MZ-S and saw what hyper 
modes are and what proper MLU gives at times...

But then again I received my D as a gift more or less.
I only hope that I expressed myself in a clear "user friendly" way :).

Certainly.
That's a relief, seriously.
Boris

Re: PESO - A mini-drama

On May 3, 2005, at 8:06 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What Frank said.
What I said to Frank. Thanks.
   -Marco

Re: Feeling inadequate

Hi!
On 3 May 2005 at 21:22, Herb Chong wrote:

i have much more than Paul has, 1.2 terabyte RAID array. i've always stored my
slide and RAW images at about 60-70 megabytes whenever possible. some images
have been cropped or otherwise are not suitable for double resolution are stored
at native resolution. the slide scans are native at 60-70 megabytes.

My server RAID is only 0.75TB :-(
Rob, after upgrade I have two HDs of 0.16 and 0.12 TB capacity. Before 
that it was mere 0.04 and 0.02 TB respectively.

Can I stay on the list? :)
Boris

Re: Feeling inadequate (was: Why and How I switched to Canon)

Hi!
 I don't have RAID and my computer is kerosene powered.
Shel 
Shel, were you secretly studying in Kerosenka? I was studying in Moscow 
Oil and Gas Institute back in Moscow. Among us it was called "Kerosenka" 
with a bit of irony and love :).

So?
Boris

Re: Moral Dilemma

Hi!
We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North Queensland 
with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to
take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do I:
1. Leave camera at home, 
2. Leave wife and son at home,
3. Take son and leave wife, 
4. Justify buying a new compact digicam because our S50 can't come close to replicating the results of the *istD, or
5. Throw a tantrum.
6. Choose just one lens, the most sturdy one. Attach it to the camera. 
Pack the camera as deep as you can. Your wife is up to surprise. You can 
probably buy spare batteries on location. Few memory cards can be 
conveniently hidden in your wallet.

7. Try to convince her she's wrong about 1.
8. Divorce
9. See if you can buy another D or Ds on location. Pre-order one to have 
it delivered to your hotel or wherever you'd be staying. She'd be up for 
a way bigger surprise.

10. If you have another digi camera at home challenge your wife to take 
better pictures during location. You bring your piece, she brings hers. 
If she wants, you can always buy another D/Ds to even the odds.

11. Don't throw a tantrum!
Boris
P.S. Julia asks if she can kick my head real hard just in case...

Re: PESO - A mini-drama

Hi Shel,
I've been using Double Hue/Sat a lot, but these were just straight 
Channel Mixer. There were a few more that didn't make the cut. I'll dig 
them out and send them your way.

Thanks for the comments.
   -Marco
On May 3, 2005, at 7:21 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Hi Marco ...
I didn't see the original post, nor any of the followups until Godfrey
posted his comment.
Good work, my friend.  The tonality looks quite good on my screen 
(Double
Hue/Sat?), the "drama" unfolded nicely as well.  You followed the basic
tenet of a "people shooter" - you kept shooting even after the peak, 
and
got a nice little series.  Were there other shots that you didn't 
post?  If
so, I'd like to see them.  No need to process them much or at all, just
some quick JPEG's would suffice.

Shel
On May 3, 2005, at 1:07 AM, Marco Alpert wrote:
http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso13a.html
http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso13b.html
http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso13c.html

Re: LONDON PDML - final update

Not only can I not make it - triathlon to put on, but I had to postpone 
my London trip from later in the month until the fall (I need to work 
and make sure I can make NPW at GFMtn).

Just keep the welcome mat out for whenever I make it :-)
Never met a PDMLer I did not like,
César
Panama City, Florida
Rob Brigham wrote:
Just wanted to confirm I will be there - booked at the Hotel & all.  Be
great to see everyone again.
Am hoping to make the market for lunchtime, if I can build our new
garden furniture one evening this week or in the morning on Saturday for
the folks to use over the weekend.  Will be getting the train up to the
hotel, drop bags then meet up as soon as I can find y'all.
As an aside - I am looking to clean the sensor on my istD soon, and
rather nervous (for no good reason other than fear of the unfamiliar).
Would welcome if anyone could bring along the device they use for me to
examine, and give me tips on how to use it (plus info on where to
buy/make it).
Will be V busy all week so may not be checking the list too often but
will deffo be at the meet!
Rob
-Original Message-
From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 01 May 2005 14:01
To: pentax list
Subject: LONDON PDML - final update

Sorry to keep bombarding the list with this.
Final update available here:

Attendees have been notified off list.
Best,

Cheers,
 Cotty
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Re: The brotherhood, and then some.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 > On 4/28/05, Cesar 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


 

I am now the proud owner of a Pentax 67 with a Super-Multi-Coated
TAKUMAR/6x7 1:2.8/90 Leaf Shutter lens, along with TTL Pentaprism,
Pentaprism, and a Folding Focusing  Hood.
I had time to do some quick snaps today and will drop off the roll
tomorrow to verify proper operation.  I used the Pentaprism today.
 

Thats the same kit i bought in 2002,from a list member.  I love mine.
I added the 200 F4 in 2003. Its my favorite Paentax lens.
Along with my istD and PZ-1, i'll be bringing the 6x7 kit to GFM aswell. If you need to
try the 200, i'll 
have it with me.

Dave Brooks

Dave,
Please do bring the 200/4 to GFMtn.  All you guys are going to kill me 
with enablement :-)
It looks like I will have to bring some 220 with me to the Mountain...

I will be working a triathlon this weekend.  I am thinking of taking 
both my 645 and 67 and some b&w to shoot along with my LXen and of 
course the *ist D.  There is plenty of down time (the last person 
crosses after 9 hours) and I can keep myself busy with my photo gear.

Trying to make sure I take my M42 cameras out for a spin at some time,
César
Panama City, Florida

Re: The brotherhood, and then some.

frank theriault wrote:
On 4/28/05, Cesar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

I noted most recently that the brotherhood was still alive.  I was not a
member, though I came close when I purchased a 645n a couple of years ago.
Well, I am ready to be greeted with whatever 'secret handshake' you may
have - that is if you will have me :-)
I am now the proud owner of a Pentax 67 with a Super-Multi-Coated
TAKUMAR/6x7 1:2.8/90 Leaf Shutter lens, along with TTL Pentaprism,
Pentaprism, and a Folding Focusing  Hood.
I had time to do some quick snaps today and will drop off the roll
tomorrow to verify proper operation.  I used the Pentaprism today.
I also picked up a Super-Multi-Coated FISH-EYE-TAKUMAR 1:4/17 lens.  I
used it today on my *ist D.  It looks interesting with the few snaps I
had time to take.  It seems I need to go out and explore the
possibilities with this lens and then go out and have fun with it and an LX.
Just had to tell someone,
   

Ya gotta bring those babies to GFM, Cesar!  

Congrats on your new family members.
cheers,
frank
 

Don't worry Frank,
All my medium format gear will be there and whatever 35mm gear will fit 
in my convertible's trunk :-)  Of course the fisheye will have to be one 
to make the trip.

I commented on a previous post that some shots I took of my back yard 
with the fisheye looked a little soft.  Well, I took some shots with the 
*ist D and the shots look great!  The only thing I can think of was the 
weather condition - it was rainy so there may have been some mist or 
such on the lens.  I will definitely look into exploring the fisheye 
some more.  Maybe you can pass some words of wisdom along.

Always looking for pointers,
César
Panama City, Florida

Re: PESO - A mini-drama

Thanks Godfrey!
   -Marco
On May 3, 2005, at 6:56 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On May 3, 2005, at 1:07 AM, Marco Alpert wrote:
http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso13a.html
http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso13b.html
http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso13c.html
Great captures, and superb handling of tonalities.
Godfrey

Re: PESO - A mini-drama

Thanks Frank and Mark! I never received my original post either. The 
list seems to be particularly squirrelly lately - although I think I 
got every Canon post. Personally, I'm switching to Cannon. I've pretty 
much given up on Pentax releasing any full-bore field artillery.

   -Marco
On May 3, 2005, at 5:45 AM, frank theriault wrote:
On 5/3/05, Mark Stringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Great shots.  Your a photographer alert to what's going on around you.
Thanks for posting them.
- Original Message -
From: "Marco Alpert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pentax List" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 3:07 AM
Subject: PESO - A mini-drama
A few days ago our youngest daughter performed in her class play. 
While
waiting for the play to start, I noticed two young girls (who I 
assumed to
be sisters) sitting on the floor in front of the stage enacting 
their own
little drama:

http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso13a.html
http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso13b.html
http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso13c.html
Comments always welcomed.
   -Marco
I didn't get the original post, so thanks to Mark for including the
urls in his reply.
Marco, this is a wonderful series!  Each photo stands well on it's
own, but I think that taken together they work magic.
The little one's expressions are priceless.  As you said, they were
having their own "little drama", and you really caught it well!
cheers,
frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: PESO: Neighbourly Visit

Hi!
My Neighbour dropped over the other night.
http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/Image4.htm
She definitely knows better than you, doesn't she? :)
Great shot...
Boris

Re: PESO: No Name Hotel...

Hi!
http://www.flaneur.albanogarcia.com.ar/?p=31#comments
Albano, the way you named it is appropriate. And as such it works. One 
sits for a while thinking of the name and the view and finally kicks 
oneself in a forehead - oh yes!

But, (as usual :) ) if you wouldn't attach a name to it, it kind of 
breaks apart, me so thinks. I see this building, the framing, the lines, 
the geometry. It evokes some emotions in me of my visits to other 
countries, namely US, but it ends just there...

Just my cents.
Boris

Re: Moral Dilemma