Re: Any free online course/tutorials about Photoshop (and co.) ?
A few are free, the others are low-cost: http://www.varis.com/Navigation/Steps.html
Re: PESO - Weeds of Denmark
- Original Message - From: keithw [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3479/display/3436741 Those aren't weeds, they are daisies and poppys... Daisies? No. These are Scentless Chamomiles (Matricaria perforata), which is a very annoying weed in the grain fields of Europe. It's mostly resistant to pesticides as well, and not easy to get rid of. http://www.weedscience.org/Case/Case.asp?ResistID=393 Concerning the poppies, I suppose it depends on whom you ask. Imagine the qualities of the flour grinded from wheat mixed 1:1 with poppy seeds...:-) Jostein
Re: OT: NYC Will Never Be the Same
On Jul 1, 2005, at 11:31 AM, frank theriault wrote: ... Having a great time chatting with Ann, whose hospitality is (as one would expect) first rate. More later (if I survive this city LOL). With Ann as your guide, you'll be fine. Welcome to NYC! from the other side of the Hudson, --jc
Re: PESO - Weeds of Denmark
Jostein wrote: - Original Message - From: keithw [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3479/display/3436741 Those aren't weeds, they are daisies and poppys... Daisies? No. These are Scentless Chamomiles (Matricaria perforata), which is a very annoying weed in the grain fields of Europe. It's mostly resistant to pesticides as well, and not easy to get rid of. Okay, you're totally right. Any plant growning in an area you don't WANT it to grow is a weed, by definition! If you have a rutabaga patch, and you find rare orchids growing there, by golly, they're WEEDS! http://www.weedscience.org/Case/Case.asp?ResistID=393 Concerning the poppies, I suppose it depends on whom you ask. Imagine the qualities of the flour grinded from wheat mixed 1:1 with poppy seeds...:-) Jostein Mot sure that would do it, but I am not going to find out! The bright orange California poppies I have growing in my backyard are NOT going to be cut down for experimentation! ;-) Horticulturally yours, keith whaley
PESO: Out of time
Hi gang, http://www.flaneur.albanogarcia.com.ar/?p=91#comments Comments (here and/or on website) welcome Regards Albano Garcia Photography Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.albanogarcia.com.ar Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
But as luck would have it, taste changed (got better to my eye), and Vincent's paintings are now worth millions. Luckily enough they are not going to be sell easily (if not at all, I *pray* they'll never go into a private house) so we can enjoy them in that wonderful (and strongly doped!) city which is Amsterdam... into a public place (where, though, you have to pay a ticket, but still it's better than nothing... Amsterdam knows how to let you forget about things... !) ciao Danilo (very pleased by this new flame/war! uahaha)
RE: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
And you think a photo that will sell, has? You're talking out of your arse. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 July 2005 11:56 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! a photo that won't sell has not passed tests of composition, exposure and originality. technically superb junk is still junk. Herb - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 3:14 AM Subject: RE: Don't need no stinkin' filters! I feel sorry for you if this is the only way you can assess the quality of a photo.
Re: PESO - Weeds of Denmark
- Original Message - From: keithw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Okay, you're totally right. Any plant growning in an area you don't WANT it to grow is a weed, by definition! If you have a rutabaga patch, and you find rare orchids growing there, by golly, they're WEEDS! LOL. I see your point, Keith. One thing is for sure, though. In Norway there's no range of weeds to match the colour diversity in the acres of Denmark. Very photogenic, agricultural aspects aside. Cheers, Jostein
Re: PESO: two images from my project
Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! The first one is a nice strong photo. The second has no context or story, and offers little to involve the viewer. How nice it is to know that you sometimes work late and eat supper at work. What is your project? If these are two images from the same project, why is it that they are not connected? My project, which I thought you might have remembered, is to take a camera with me at work every day. I would take one lens only, sometimes zoom though and take my camera with me as I intake nutrition :). The project is about walking and seeing things, whatever they are. Boris So its title, then, could be Lunchtime with Boris?
PESO - Cliff Dweller
Taken at Dead Horse Point State Park Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, handheld ISO 400, 1/500 sec @ f/9.5, no filtration Converted from Raw using Capture One LE http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0080.htm Comments welcome -- Best regards, Bruce
Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V05 #1540
Thanks for the nice offering on our memorial. I remember that day very well. It was shortly after my old-fashioned windup clock had finished chiming. I was some six miles north of the blast site. Suddenly a roar. The earth trembled. The glass in the building rattled. The very air inside my building popped the way the air around you does when you fire a 12 gauge. All I could think was that a fully fueled SuperJet from either Will Rogers International or the World Air Materiel Command at Tinker Air Force Base had augered in. We all went outside to see if there was any tell-tale smoke or evidence. A thin column rose to the south and slightly east, too close to be either airport. A dear friend from high school was walking downtown beside the Murrah Building when the blast went off. She is still a breath-taking beauty well into her late fifties, and an elegant lady whose husband is one of Oklahoma's most successful oilmen. Her carotoid artery was severed by a piece of flying glass. When Polly stood up holding the wound, a passing car going west stopped in the middle of the street between the Murrah and Journal Record building, opened its door, took her in, and drove her the several blocks to St. Anthonys Hospital, where the emergency workers were already standing by at the ER entrance. And Polly is alive today. Sometime later I met the UPS deliveryman who pulled out of the Murrah building after making his 8:45 deliveries. It was his vacated spot that McVeigh pulled in to take. That man was still shaken months later. Thanks for the insight. Hope you find these ramblings interesting. Oh. The son of my legal assistant called about noon asking if his mother was O.K. as part of the practice involves federal work and he was worried that I had sent her to do some filing. The parking lot for the court was under the Murrah building and you parked, got out, walked upstairs into the Murrah building and over to the Federal Courthouse. He had a right to be worried. But she was at the office. Enough maudlin comments. Lets get back to Pentax photography! Galloway, lurker deluxe. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 1:27 PM Subject: pentax-discuss-d Digest V05 #1540 -- Content-Type: text/plain pentax-discuss-d Digest Volume 05 : Issue 1540 Today's Topics: Re: Recomendations on where to uploa [ Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: PESO: My dragonfly... [ Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: Photoshop CS Book [ George Sinos [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: July PUG is open [ P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: FS Friday/now with photos/Ltd le [ K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] PESO: Oklahoma City National Memoria [ George Sinos [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Street photo once more (was RE: Reco [ =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tim_=D8sleby?= ti-o ] RE: Recomendations on where to uploa [ =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tim_=D8sleby?= ti-o ] Re: Any free online course/tutorials [ Powell Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: FS Friday/now with photos/Ltd le [ Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! [ Mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: PESO: My dragonfly... [ keithw [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: Recomendations on where to uploa [ Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: PDML Bergen Brygge, Norway (was [ Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: PESO - Weeds of Denmark [ Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: PESO - Weeds of Denmark [ Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] PESO: no fun [ pancho hasselbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: PESO - Weeds of Denmark [ Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: PESO - Weeds of Denmark [ Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: PESO - Weeds of Denmark [ Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] -- Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 19:53:29 +0200 From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Recomendations on where to upload public images Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi! I have done some street shooting today, in fact for the first time in my life. Something has been holding me back. The idea makes me a bit shy. There is something about directing a lens at somebody. It is a statement, saying I find you appealing, or something like that. Tim, I've been where you are for a long time. Eventually I took the dive and although I don't consider myself to be any good at it, but I don't hesitate to try. Also, thanks to quite a few folks here, I've received some quite invaluable advice. So, come on, show us your stuff! Anyway, I did it! And now I want to share it with you fellas. (If I'm happy with the result, haven't looked at the files yet) This is my first steps at a dangerous new ladder. I hope it is leading to the
Re: Buying lenses new - having a question
As Will Robb will confirm, a 60mm on the Digis becomes a 90, On 2/7/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: AAAHHH. Hook, line, and sinker. Why Bob I'm surprised at you Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
a while ago you said that he sold a few. make up your mind. Herb - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 12:48 PM Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! Let me connect the dots for you Herb. You have said, if it doesn't sell, it is junk. I have pointed out that Vincent Van Gogh didn't sell during his lifetime. By your logic, his paintings were junk. But as luck would have it, taste changed (got better to my eye), and Vincent's paintings are now worth millions.
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
did i say that it had to have been sold? i said that it will sell. Herb - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 3:11 PM Subject: RE: Don't need no stinkin' filters! And you think a photo that will sell, has? You're talking out of your arse.
Re: Don't need no stinkin' judges Was: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
On 2/7/05, Bob Blakely, discombobulated, unleashed: You want something that sells and a good marketing strategy? Take photos of nekkid tits, blow 'um up to 8x10 glossy. Stand on any corner near a junior high and hawk 'um to trans pubescent, pimple faced boys for a few $ a pop. That'll be me. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
Yeah, so like I was saying, there's this geezer right, and blow me if he isn't related to my dear old aunt Winnie's butcher. Well, the next thing you know he's in there like a shot and helping her do the old place up. Well I tell you, my old man nearly had a fit, he. (with apologies to Tony Hancock ) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
How does one know that something will sell until it sells? Shel [Original Message] From: Herb Chong did i say that it had to have been sold? i said that it will sell. Herb - Original Message - From: Bob W And you think a photo that will sell, has? You're talking out of your arse.
Re: PESO - Cliff Dweller
Bruce Dayton wrote: Taken at Dead Horse Point State Park Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, handheld ISO 400, 1/500 sec @ f/9.5, no filtration Converted from Raw using Capture One LE http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0080.htm Comments welcome *I* like it! ;-) keith
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! Read ALL of Herb's comments. He's evaluating the worth of a photo by its marketability. He looks at pictures that way. You look at pictures with a different viewpoint, I look at them by a different viewpoint that you, I expect. One way is just as valid as another. William Robb
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! So I would generalize and say that depending on current public taste to 'sell' anything as a judge for it's artistic merit or overall worth is a slippery slope to be standing on. You might want to move to firmer footing. I wonder what a factory original, mint condition Edsel would go for these days? William Robb
Lens Test: Need Help
Does anyone have (a) the December 2000 issue of Popular Photography, (b) a flatbed scanner, and (c) willingness to scan and e-mail a lens test to me? It is the test of the Sigma 180 mm macro. This one predates Pop's online test archives. If so, please contact me off-list: jtainter at mindspring dot com Thanks much, Joe
Re: PESO: My dragonfly...
- Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton Subject: Re: PESO: My dragonfly... I think it's great that you were inspired and willing to share. I have had precious little luck in photographing bug like Mark. I think you are on the right road - found, captured and now to find out the little things that make Mark's really stand out - I suspect that lots of practice is involved. Learning how to light the little guys is really important. If you look at Mark's pictures, there is a lushness to them that makes them stand out. Mark used to have a bunch of essays about this subject on his sight. If they are still there, they are a very valuable resource for anyone interested in pursuing this genre of photography. William Robb
Re: GESO: shots in New York
- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman Subject: Re: GESO: shots in New York As a matter of fact, I thought of going to the Freedom Island (is that the correct name?) but the weather did not permit that... They renamed Frenchman's Island, did they? W.W...
Re: Recomendations on where to upload public images
- Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby Subject: Recomendations on where to upload public images So now I have a question for you. My regular site foto.no will not allow me more than two submissions a week. This is more. Anyone having any recommendations on where to look for the perfect site? Does your ISP affer webspace to it's subscribers? William Robb
Re: PESO - Haze
Re: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0123.htm Such a beautiful place, ruined by pollution. Good photo, Bruce, but depressing. Visibility in southeast Utah should be 100 miles. It used to be. Just curious: what white-balance setting do you use for the haze photos? Joe
Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V05 #1540
On 2/7/05, FlubADub, discombobulated, unleashed: Thanks for the nice offering on our memorial. I remember that day very well. [Bizarre extract snipped] Did I miss a few posts or what? . Enough maudlin comments. Lets get back to Pentax photography! Only a small detour then... Galloway, lurker deluxe. Pal, save me some meths, I'm dry as a bone. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
you don't, but you can develop a very good idea by placing your work in front of people all the time, especially people who are accomplished photographers or artists in other media. accomplished could be commercial success, but it's enough to be respected by their peers. if you can generate a wow, you can generate a sale. if you can't from anyone, then i just have to ask how good you really are vs. how good you think you are. Herb - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 5:33 PM Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! How does one know that something will sell until it sells?
Re: PESO: My dragonfly...
- Original Message - From: William Robb Subject: Re: PESO: My dragonfly... on his sight. U, that shoud be site, as in website William Robb
RE: Recomendations on where to upload public images
Yes it does, but I want to be part of a community of fellow freaks. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian.) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 3. juli 2005 00:03 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Recomendations on where to upload public images - Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby Subject: Recomendations on where to upload public images So now I have a question for you. My regular site foto.no will not allow me more than two submissions a week. This is more. Anyone having any recommendations on where to look for the perfect site? Does your ISP affer webspace to it's subscribers? William Robb
Re: PESO - Haze
i looked up some color Ansel Adams photos of the area. his pictures had some haze. not as much as i see in Bruce's but it's there. the saturation is markedly higher in the Adam's photos, partly because of the greater visibility. these days, it seems you get those really clear shots only right after a cold front with heavy rain has come through. Herb - Original Message - From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 6:05 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Haze Re: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0123.htm Such a beautiful place, ruined by pollution. Good photo, Bruce, but depressing. Visibility in southeast Utah should be 100 miles. It used to be. Just curious: what white-balance setting do you use for the haze photos?
Re: PESO - Haze
As I am shooting in Raw, I leave the camera setting to AWB. Capture One is really not set up with setings, but with two white balance scales - one in kelvin temperature and the other green/magenta. I can go back and look at those settings if you want. -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, July 2, 2005, 3:05:52 PM, you wrote: JT Re: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0123.htm JT Such a beautiful place, ruined by pollution. Good photo, Bruce, but JT depressing. JT Visibility in southeast Utah should be 100 miles. It used to be. JT Just curious: what white-balance setting do you use for the haze photos? JT Joe
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
Gee Herb, I don't know exactly how many paintings Van Gogh sold during his lifetime, if any. I do know that he lived on the support of others, died without money, and was distraught by the lack of acceptance (SELLING) of his paintings. You can look the facts up and argue minor points with me. I suppose that is better for you than admitting that this example tears a small hole in your arguement and drives a 747 Jumbo Jet thru it. Regards, Bob S. On 7/2/05, Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a while ago you said that he sold a few. make up your mind. Herb - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 12:48 PM Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! Let me connect the dots for you Herb. You have said, if it doesn't sell, it is junk. I have pointed out that Vincent Van Gogh didn't sell during his lifetime. By your logic, his paintings were junk. But as luck would have it, taste changed (got better to my eye), and Vincent's paintings are now worth millions.
Re: PESO - Cliff Dweller
Beautiful, Bruce! I really like the out-of-focus background, which is usually the whole shot! Rick --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Taken at Dead Horse Point State Park Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, handheld ISO 400, 1/500 sec @ f/9.5, no filtration Converted from Raw using Capture One LE http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0080.htm Comments welcome -- Best regards, Bruce Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com
Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V05 #1540
Apologies, Flubadub. A moving account of an obviously distressing time. Please remember to change the subject line when replying from the digest version of the list, otherwise it may not be immediately apparent what the body of the message is in response to. I finally figured it out. Thanks for the nice offering on our memorial. I remember that day very well. It was shortly after my old-fashioned windup clock had finished chiming. I was some six miles north of the blast site. Suddenly a roar. The earth trembled. The glass in the building rattled. The very air inside my building popped the way the air around you does when you fire a 12 gauge. All I could think was that a fully fueled SuperJet from either Will Rogers International or the World Air Materiel Command at Tinker Air Force Base had augered in. We all went outside to see if there was any tell-tale smoke or evidence. A thin column rose to the south and slightly east, too close to be either airport. A dear friend from high school was walking downtown beside the Murrah Building when the blast went off. She is still a breath-taking beauty well into her late fifties, and an elegant lady whose husband is one of Oklahoma's most successful oilmen. Her carotoid artery was severed by a piece of flying glass. When Polly stood up holding the wound, a passing car going west stopped in the middle of the street between the Murrah and Journal Record building, opened its door, took her in, and drove her the several blocks to St. Anthonys Hospital, where the emergency workers were already standing by at the ER entrance. And Polly is alive today. Sometime later I met the UPS deliveryman who pulled out of the Murrah building after making his 8:45 deliveries. It was his vacated spot that McVeigh pulled in to take. That man was still shaken months later. Thanks for the insight. Hope you find these ramblings interesting. Oh. The son of my legal assistant called about noon asking if his mother was O.K. as part of the practice involves federal work and he was worried that I had sent her to do some filing. The parking lot for the court was under the Murrah building and you parked, got out, walked upstairs into the Murrah building and over to the Federal Courthouse. He had a right to be worried. But she was at the office. Enough maudlin comments. Lets get back to Pentax photography! Galloway, lurker deluxe. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
Hello Herb, I don't really disagree with what you are saying here, but I do have to say that as I have observed different genres of photography, there comes to be some expectations about how they should look. Unfortunately, this can leads towards a little less creativity and more of mimickry. The guy who guided us into Monument Valley (a guide is mandatory), happens to lead John Sexton on many of his Southern Utah photo expeditions and seminars. He said that he is quite surprised how most of the photographers are trying to take the same exact pictures that John does - even to the same placement of tripod, etc. Almost all of them are 4X5 shooters - so somewhat serious about their work. In some ways, I feel fortunate to not needing/wanting to sell my landscape work - gives me a little more leeway to shoot what I want the way I want. I realize that sometimes, they will produce no wows, but perhaps sometimes they will. I do appreciate your willingness to comment and offer your insights, as all comments are valueable to my continued learning and progress. -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, July 2, 2005, 3:06:13 PM, you wrote: HC you don't, but you can develop a very good idea by placing your work in HC front of people all the time, especially people who are accomplished HC photographers or artists in other media. accomplished could be commercial HC success, but it's enough to be respected by their peers. if you can generate HC a wow, you can generate a sale. if you can't from anyone, then i just have HC to ask how good you really are vs. how good you think you are. HC Herb HC - Original Message - HC From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] HC To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net HC Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 5:33 PM HC Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! How does one know that something will sell until it sells?
Re: Lens Test: Need Help
In a message dated 7/2/2005 4:59:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone have (a) the December 2000 issue of Popular Photography, (b) a flatbed scanner, and (c) willingness to scan and e-mail a lens test to me? It is the test of the Sigma 180 mm macro. This one predates Pop's online test archives. If so, please contact me off-list: jtainter at mindspring dot com Thanks much, Joe Try the Public or University Library. It is available on microfilm. If they don't have it, try the Inter-Library Loan dept. there. Regards, Sonny http://www.sonc.com Natchitoches, Louisiana Oldest continuous settlement in La Louisiane égalité, liberté, crawfish
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
there is no shame in imitating when learning. it's the acid test of originality and vision to see if you can get beyond imitating. that's when you are contributing something to the art instead of just the volume. there are three or so working pros in the area i like to photograph besides myself that mostly photograph the same subjects. the group of us admire the same places, but each of us has a much different view on many of them. there are a few that just really need to be taken a certain way just to have the standard shot. the creative challenge then becomes how to be different from the others and yet have the same impact on the people that view our work. i can assure you the same people view our work, perhaps not together, but in the places we publish. Herb - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Herb Chong pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 6:24 PM Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! The guy who guided us into Monument Valley (a guide is mandatory), happens to lead John Sexton on many of his Southern Utah photo expeditions and seminars. He said that he is quite surprised how most of the photographers are trying to take the same exact pictures that John does - even to the same placement of tripod, etc. Almost all of them are 4X5 shooters - so somewhat serious about their work.
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! And some pictures are superb in every respect, but, for whatever reason, have not sold. That does not make them junk. And some photos which are pretty bad in many respects have found buyers, but that doesn't make them a good photograph by any other standard. Your first example is my list's #4, that hasn't been marketed correctly.Your second one is a #1. Recently I sold one of my photos to someone who saw it on the net somewhere. I never even considered it much of anything - just a photographic doodle, that was heavily adjusted in Photoshop. She liked it. It sold. Ergo, it's a good photograph. To the buyer it is. To you, it still must have been good enough to have bothered with, even is just as a doodle. Herb's comment is an insult to the many good photographers here who have not sold their work, yet who have produced stunning and wonderful photographs. And I can practically assure you that there are many photos sold by PDML members that hoover. # 4 and #1 again. Herb's comment was simple: if it will sell it's a good photo. That sounds like a pretty valid comment.On the rest, we can disagree and still be friends. William Robb
RE: PESO: My dragonfly...
I'd say his _sight_ is pretty good too! ;-) Don -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 5:08 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: My dragonfly... - Original Message - From: William Robb Subject: Re: PESO: My dragonfly... on his sight. U, that shoud be site, as in website William Robb
RE: PESO - Cliff Dweller
Magnificent Bruce. Don -Original Message- From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 2:35 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Cliff Dweller Taken at Dead Horse Point State Park Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, handheld ISO 400, 1/500 sec @ f/9.5, no filtration Converted from Raw using Capture One LE http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0080.htm Comments welcome -- Best regards, Bruce
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
I can usually tell what will sell as stock. Experience is a great teacher. In galleries, it's more difficult to say, although scenics and still lifes definitely outsell people pics. My best seller, gallery and stock, is a flower pic. It's the same shot that's had the most hits on my PhotoNet page. Apparently, it's not a coincidence. Paul Paul On Jul 2, 2005, at 5:33 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: How does one know that something will sell until it sells? Shel [Original Message] From: Herb Chong did i say that it had to have been sold? i said that it will sell. Herb - Original Message - From: Bob W And you think a photo that will sell, has? You're talking out of your arse.
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
On Jul 2, 2005, at 5:50 PM, William Robb wrote: I wonder what a factory original, mint condition Edsel would go for these days? William Robb About 25,000.
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! On Jul 2, 2005, at 5:50 PM, William Robb wrote: I wonder what a factory original, mint condition Edsel would go for these days? About 25,000. Are they still junk? Or have the years been kind? William Robb
I love it! I love it! K24/2.8 is here.
What a wonderful lens! I've wanted one for ages, finally found one I could afford. Unscrew the rear group, blow the dust out, like new! Samples: http://www.donsauction.com/PDML/24_28.htm (About 270KB) Don (Thrilled!)
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
Restored Edsels are nice cars and good conversation pieces.. They were more ugly than bad. And now that ugliness is somewhat of a novelty. They did have a lot of power accessories that were still in the infant stages of development, so there were some glitches, particularly in the first year of production. But on any well restored car, all those things will have been resolved.. A lot of Edsels had 6.8 liter V8 engines, so they run rather well. That engine was exclusive to Lincoln, Mercury and Edsel. it had combustion chambers in the block and long, large ports, so it produced gobs of low-speed torque. For a late fifties lead sled, Edsels move out rather nicely and are fun to drive -- as long as you don't have to turn :-). A footnote: When I worked on Lincoln advertising in the early nineties, I did a commercial about Edsel Ford and the first Town Car. The client wouldn't let me call him Edsel in the script. It had to be Mr. Ford, which was very strange. But Edsel was a word that was not to be uttered in Detroit, despite the fact that Edsel Ford, who developed both the first Town Car and the Continental, was probably the smartest and most inventive of all the Fords save Henry the First. Paul On Jul 2, 2005, at 9:19 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! On Jul 2, 2005, at 5:50 PM, William Robb wrote: I wonder what a factory original, mint condition Edsel would go for these days? About 25,000. Are they still junk? Or have the years been kind? William Robb
sabine
Missed a turn in Mansfield last night and had to go 30 miles out of my way; I passed through a time warp, I guess. http://www.sonc.com/sabine.htm Regards, Sonny http://www.sonc.com Natchitoches, Louisiana Oldest continuous settlement in La Louisiane égalité, liberté, crawfish
Re: I love it! I love it! K24/2.8 is here.
it's a gem, i love mine (although it's an A). congrats! mishka On 7/2/05, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a wonderful lens! I've wanted one for ages, finally found one I could afford. Unscrew the rear group, blow the dust out, like new! Samples: http://www.donsauction.com/PDML/24_28.htm (About 270KB) Don (Thrilled!)
Re: GESO: shots in New York
is that in mcdonalds bay? mishka On 7/2/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a matter of fact, I thought of going to the Freedom Island (is that the correct name?) but the weather did not permit that... They renamed Frenchman's Island, did they? W.W...
Re: sabine
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: sabine Missed a turn in Mansfield last night and had to go 30 miles out of my way; I passed through a time warp, I guess. http://www.sonc.com/sabine.htm Think time exposure to give it that truly dated look. William Robb
Re: PESO: two images from my project
Hi! So its title, then, could be Lunchtime with Boris? Eleanor, you see, Lunchtime with Boris could be a title to a TV show, but unlike certain list member(s) I shot only stills ;-)... Boris P.S. What did I do wrong, that my mere P.S. in the original message gets so picked upon?
Re: GESO: shots in New York
Hi! As a matter of fact, I thought of going to the Freedom Island (is that the correct name?) but the weather did not permit that... They renamed Frenchman's Island, did they? Bill, don't you have any mercy? Boris
Re: I love it! I love it! K24/2.8 is here.
Hi! What a wonderful lens! I've wanted one for ages, finally found one I could afford. Unscrew the rear group, blow the dust out, like new! Samples: http://www.donsauction.com/PDML/24_28.htm Don, that's one of the few lenses that does not necessarily have to be replaced with modern (24/2) optic... It is w o n d e r f u l. Congrats. Boris
To Herb Chong et al
Hi! Herb, I followed the no stinking filters thread for some time. I have a question. You may argue that if a photo sold, it means that it managed to overcome some competition... Hence it is rather good one... What about those photos that participate in (international) contests and get mentions or even prizes? Boris
Re: PESO: The Nabours Harley
Try here Mark. http://www.crazy-frogs.com/ Proof positive that just because it sells doesn't make it good. :-) Dave On 7/2/05, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now we know: Mark Roberts _is_ the Crazy Frog!!! I think I'm missing some point of reference here (or at least I hope I am!) Crazy frog? -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Recomendations on where to upload public images
Hi! www.webaperture.com (free) www.photosig.com (paysite) www.photo.net (paysite) www.fotocommunity.com (paysite) Even though webaperture is free, I don't like it. Fotocommunity is my favourite. Simple design, and you get a lot of storage space for your money. Second that, Jostein. I virtually stopped participating in webaperture... PhotoSig used to be free but there is one gotcha that Tim has to be aware of... Some sites, notably PhotoSig have either limited time during which a non-registered user can see the uploaded picture in full size. Or they limit the size from the start. I think www.usefilm.com does that. That was one of the main reasons I had to leave PhotoSig and then UseFilm... Boris
Re: GESO: shots in New York
- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman Subject: Re: GESO: shots in New York Bill, don't you have any mercy? Not when cheap humour is at stake. WW..
Re: PESO: subject interaction
Hi! Hi, here is a pair of shots I made a few weeks ago at a concert in our local botanic garden: http://www.vollholz.de/peso/frau_j.html (taken with my Vivitar S1 3.5/70-210 (2nd version) fairly wide open AFAIR, on superia 100) They made me think of the long discussion about sniping or interacting with persons to photograph. I can't say which of both is stronger and I don't feel the need to do so. I think they are completely diferent from each other. What is your oppinion? I'd choose the second (one on the right) one. I think it has some sense, while the first one appears rather empty to me. The leaves on the back do look like some kind of a space-time warp or a wormhole... ;-). Boris
Re: PESO: Out of time
Hi! Hi gang, http://www.flaneur.albanogarcia.com.ar/?p=91#comments Comments (here and/or on website) welcome Regards I think that the cat looking down and Gracias! on the top right complete the shot. I would consider to crop a bit on the left, so that no incomplete cloth-stand parts would be in the frame. It is the picture which would make stop and think if I saw it on the wall printed large. Boris
Re: PESO - Weeds of Denmark
Hi! Throughout the holiday, I had problems concentrating properly when out shooting. I'm pretty sure it was the pollen concentration in the air. Last night, I prepped myself to saturation with anti-allergy chemistry and dared a trip into the fields. Normally, it's just my eyes and nose that gets it, so I thought I was safe. After 15 minutes walking in the field, my legs began to itch from contact with the grass. The rash is still there now, 24 hours later. :-( It only now occurred to me that you have flowers at full bloom now... Well, here however most of the vegetation is not dirt-yellow and burned... There are some evergreen flowers and plants of course, but it is not that interesting ;-). Hope you'd overcome your allergy problems soon. And I suppose I'd make a notice of you being prone to allergies for the future too... ;-) Boris
Re: GESO: shots in New York
Hi! Bill, don't you have any mercy? Not when cheap humour is at stake. WW.. That's acceptable. You're on, mr Robb ;-). Boris
Re: PESO: My dragonfly...
Hi! Being inspired by Mark's stunning images I thought I'd try some bug shots myself. I wandered around the small park behind my house and came across this guy, who was kind enough to stay in one place long enough for me to take a few shots. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fwwidall/23042647/ Nowhere close to Mark's work but a reasonable first attempt. Wish I could persuade them to pose with open wings like Mark does G. Pentax *istDS, Super Takumar 200mm, 56mm extension tubes, 1/400, F8, ISO200, handheld. Not bad at all, not bad at all... You sure have patience with these insects... That's something I lack... Boris
Re: PESO - Cliff Dweller
Hi! Taken at Dead Horse Point State Park Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, handheld ISO 400, 1/500 sec @ f/9.5, no filtration Converted from Raw using Capture One LE http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0080.htm One cannot beat the Dead Horse enough ;-)... Bruce, should I say I hate you? ;-)... Boris
Re: Grandpa's Lil Wonder
Catching up on some old mails. That is one very intense looking young man :-) As everyone has said the lighting is beautiful the pose is fantastic. Great shot Jay. Dave On 6/28/05, Jay Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a shot of my grandson, one of which I really like. Captured with the *istDS using the FA 50mm f1.4. Now I'm starting to realize all the hoopla behind this piece of Pentax glass. http://i.pbase.com/v3/87/63987/1/45423940.SeriousD.jpg JayT (aka Sirfishalot)
