Re: OT: Prayer for my Daughter

[Jay Taylor]

Lasse, Godfrey, Boris, Bob,  Paul, Carlos, E.R.N., Perry Derby, Frank, 
Gonz, Jack, Tim, Gautam, Kenneth, Mishka, Shel,  Joseph, Bob Shell, 
Cesar, Feroze and Bob W:
First of all I want to truly thank all of you from the bottom of my 
heart for your kind words of support and encouragement and most of all 
your prayers for Nicole.  It really  means a lot   to know that people 
really care and are willing to intercede for her healing.


She remains in the hospital this evening. They have run the gamut of 
tests since yesterday. EKG, blood work, spleen, thyroid, chest x-ray 
and CAT scan this afternoon all showing nothing abnormal.  They still 
do not know what is wrong with her though. The infectious disease 
specialist was the last doctor today to examine her and his only take 
on it is that perhaps is some sort of viral infection.  He said that he 
has seen a few patients recently with similar symptoms.
Nicole looked better today, but was still suffering the headaches and 
her blood pressure still would drop pretty far when she stands up.  
They are going to keep her another night  at least maybe have some sort 
of prognosis tomorrow.  Now that they were able to rule several things 
out they were able to give her some pain medication so she was able to 
get some good rest tonight. We continue to remain faithful that her 
health will be fully restored.
Though I don't actually had the pleasure of meeting any of you folks, I 
consider you  all to be friends. Again, thank you for your prayers and 
encouragement.  And may God bless you and your families.


Sincerely,
Jay Taylor

http://i.pbase.com/v3/87/63987/1/48675784.IMGP1136copy.jpg

RE: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

[Bob W]

> >"I'm an arboriculturist and I'm ok..."
> >
> >Cheers,
> > Bob (an arboriculturist's uncle!)
> 
> But he still wears suspenders and a bra.
> 

Like father, like son...

B

RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

[John Whittingham]

> This is a great tool. Absolutely top quality. I only have good 
> things to say about this item. Focusing is accurate, the image 
> quality is excellent. It makes focusing more accurate that MF. It's 
> actually one of the best Pentax products I have ever bought. It's 
> simply highly recomendable. You will never regret buying one of 
> these - it's better than any other converter you will come across. I 
> will never sell mine, no matter how attractive the offer may be. I 
> can't believe Pentax stoped making this - it is very usefull.

Has anyone any exprience of using the converter with the SMC 135mm f/2.5, 
I've been considering looking for one seconhand for some time, I'm currently 
using the FA 135 f/2.8 with a Kenko SHQ 1.5x converter as my 200mm AF lens 
and wondered if there would be any advantage optically other than a slight 
increase in FL.

Regards,

John

John Whittingham

Technician

"you can't be optimistic with a misty optic"




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Re: OT GESO: Horizon panos

[Ralf R. Radermacher]

Derby Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Nope, single shot. If you haven't had a chance to play with a swing lens
> camera, it's worth trying to get a hold of one. It's a lot more 
> spontaneous than stitched panos.

Absolutely. And it allows moving subjects.

> http://cameras.alfredklomp.com/horizon202/

May I add...
http://www.fotoralf.de/horizon.htm

Ralf

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private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de
manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005
Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses

Re: OT GESO: Horizon panos

[Ralf R. Radermacher]

William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> How long does it take for the exposure to complete.
> This may be an urban legend, but apparently with the original swing lens
> cameras, it was possible for a person to ourun the swing and get in the
> picture on both sides of a large group

Yes, you can, especially with a Noblex which rotates slower than the
Horizon. You can do all kinds of fun stuff with a swing-lens panoramic
camera. 

Ralf

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private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de
manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005
Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses

Re: OT: Prayer for my Daughter

[Keith McGuinness]

Jay Taylor wrote:
Nicole looked better today, but was still suffering the headaches and 
her blood pressure still would drop pretty far when she stands up.  They 
are going to keep her another night  at least maybe have some sort of 
prognosis tomorrow.  Now that they were able to rule several things out 
they were able to give her some pain medication so she was able to get 
some good rest tonight. We continue to remain faithful that her health 
will be fully restored.


Good to hear.

I certainly hope she continues to improve.

Any parent knows how awful it is to have a sick child.

Best wishes for her speedy recovery.

Keith McG

Re: OT GESO: Horizon panos

[Derby Chang]

Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

Derby Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

Nope, single shot. If you haven't had a chance to play with a swing lens
camera, it's worth trying to get a hold of one. It's a lot more 
spontaneous than stitched panos.



Absolutely. And it allows moving subjects.

  

http://cameras.alfredklomp.com/horizon202/



May I add...
http://www.fotoralf.de/horizon.htm

Ralf

  



Ooops, sorry, yes of course. Your page was one of the ones I read before 
taking the jump to buy the Horizon, Ralf.


One other thing I might mention about the fun factor. Friendly people 
always seem to come up to you, curious about the camera, wanting to know 
more. Not exactly a chick magnet, but it does make street shooting 
enjoyable. Inevitably, they are amazed that it takes normal film. I 
always let them take a shot if they want.


D

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RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

[Jens Bladt]

Yes, John.
I have used mine with a 2.5/135mm many times. I have used it for concert
shots and for long distance panoramas.
This one was shot with this combo:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/41643010/in/set-877712/

The lack of sharpness is motion blur (subject/camera), not caused by the
lens.
So, don't forget that the converter will "eat some light" - perhaps 1½
F-stop.
If you have enough light, it's fabulous.

If you don't a FA 2.8/200mm, a FA* 2.8/80-200mm  (both rather expensive) or
a K 2.5/200mm (if you can find one) may be a better choise.

And this panrama was made with this combo as well:
http://gallery13117.fotopic.net/p21530701.html
Try to watch it in full size - it's incredibly sharp - you can clearly see
steel wires rather far away.
I the mittle of the picture (to the right of the blue chimney) is a steel
pylon (for TV broadcast).
It is possible to count the small steel beams inside this pylon (in the
original picture). This pylon is apr. 15 km away from where I was standing.
The beams are perhaps one inch thick. Amazing, don't you think?


Regards
Jens


Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: John Whittingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 4. februar 2006 10:26
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter


> This is a great tool. Absolutely top quality. I only have good
> things to say about this item. Focusing is accurate, the image
> quality is excellent. It makes focusing more accurate that MF. It's
> actually one of the best Pentax products I have ever bought. It's
> simply highly recomendable. You will never regret buying one of
> these - it's better than any other converter you will come across. I
> will never sell mine, no matter how attractive the offer may be. I
> can't believe Pentax stoped making this - it is very usefull.

Has anyone any exprience of using the converter with the SMC 135mm f/2.5,
I've been considering looking for one seconhand for some time, I'm currently
using the FA 135 f/2.8 with a Kenko SHQ 1.5x converter as my 200mm AF lens
and wondered if there would be any advantage optically other than a slight
increase in FL.

Regards,

John

John Whittingham

Technician

"you can't be optimistic with a misty optic"





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Re: This is new for mew

[Sylwester Pietrzyk]

Boris Liberman wrote on 04.02.06 7:55:

> I guess I won't break rules if posted an e-bay auction such as this:
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Pentax-K-lens-adapter-for-4-3-Olympus-E-1-E-300-E-500_W0QQ
> itemZ7586732934QQcategoryZ30059QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/d6kze
Not only this. 4/3 has probably the largest choice of lens mount adapters:
http://www.cameraquest.com/adapt_olyE1.htm
So at least if you're in possesion of any manual SLR you can buy 4/3 and
still enjoy you lenses although with 2x narrower FOV ;-)

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek

Re: OT: Looking for mini enablement

[Vic Mortelmans]

just out of curiosity, may I ask what camera the rangefinder device will 
be attached to?


Groeten,

Vic

Boris Liberman wrote:

Hi!

I've decided to return to film shooting for a while... To do it in style 
;-), I need a range-finder unit - you know, one that clips on flash shoe 
- just to measure distance... Preferably both in feet and meters or just 
in feet... If anyone has a working device that fits above description - 
I'd be happy to be enabled by you.


Thanks.

Boris

P.S. To make things clear - I'm not looking for range finder camera, 
just for range finder piece to measure distance (in feet).

RE: OT: NYT article on Digital Cameras (PMA)

[Jens Bladt]

Hmmm..
Pentax had a consumer base for the *ist D. People like us who already have
many Pentax SLR lenses.
The D upgrade will not have too many buyers. This is a plausible reason for
the "consumer" DSLR's that followed.
The next digital "upgrade" is more likely a 645D - appealing to many 645
users. There are not too many 645's for sale at the moment - not compared to
Mamiya- I guess some 645 users are waiting for the 645D ?? There are loads
of Mamiya 645 for sale at ebay at the moment. Mamiya already announced their
22 Mp 645D (Mamiya ZD) more than a year ago. In the 645D market Pentax have
been much too slow also. Would you expect Pentax to release a 645D AND a
*ist D2 simultaneously? I doubt it.
Regards

Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Christian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 3. februar 2006 15:58
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: OT: NYT article on Digital Cameras (PMA)


Tom C wrote:
>
> Pentax was also slow out the gate, but not as slow.  Now though, they
> are slow in introducing an upgrade path to the *ist D.  This can't be
> gaining them customers.

Pentax is not trying to "keep" customers with an "upgrade" path.  They
seem more inclined to gain new entry level customers instead.  Nothing
wrong with that if they can get their name (or Samsung's name) out there
as a competitor for good, compact, DSLRs suitable for your typical
entry-level enthusiast (see also: P&S user wanting less shutter lag to
take pictures of his/her kid playing sport or average person
contemplating EVF type P&S).

However, once they gain these new DSLR users, they will have to come up
with some way to keep them wanting more.  some of these entry-level
photogs will want more feature rich, (yes higher MP; even if it is a
numbers game) DSLR as their experience grows.  This is what I'm
interested in seeing.  How/what is Pentax going to do?

It almost seems that the original *ist D was thrown out there to shut us
up.  After all it was the feature-equivalent competitor of the then
advanced amateur level camera like the D100 and 10D.  Problem is they
haven't given us a D200 or 20D competitor (granted the D200 was a late
successor to the D100).

--

Christian
http://photography.skofteland.net

Re: OT: NYT article on Digital Cameras (PMA)

[Sylwester Pietrzyk]

Jens Bladt wrote on 04.02.06 11:47:

> It almost seems that the original *ist D was thrown out there to shut us
> up.  After all it was the feature-equivalent competitor of the then
> advanced amateur level camera like the D100 and 10D.  Problem is they
> haven't given us a D200 or 20D competitor (granted the D200 was a late
> successor to the D100).
Well, if *istD successor would show up this year it would be similar time as
Nikon user's had to wait for D100 successor - D200. And I hope *istD2
(whatever) will be similar in specs to D200 - much faster AF (especially in
low light), bigger buffer, 10MPix, full K-lenses compatibility... It doesn't
even have to be weather sealed if it would be 400$ cheaper than D200 ;-)

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek

Re: GFM Nature Photography Weekend registration is open

[brooksdj]

Ok.

Hi Sally
:-)

Dave

> 
> I'll get there if I have to hitch all the damn way. Slap my ass and call
> me Sally.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
>   Cotty
> 
> 
> ___/\__
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> _
> 
> 

Re: GFM Nature Photography Weekend registration is open

[brooksdj]

> >Dave #41 Brooks
> >
> Dave,
> 
> Are you going to bring your usual aura this year?
> 
> For those on the list, it seemed that everytime I took a shot of Dave he 
> seemed to have this glow and a bit of softness about him.  The shots 
> before and after were nice and sharp!
> 
> Dave must be just one big soft-focus filter,
> 
> César
> Panama City, Florida
> 

You should see how soft i am now.LOL

I'll bring the aura, and Frank to.:-)

Dave

ot back in the saddle again

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

I was in the hospital  all of last week.   Four days asleep in ICU just
waiting.
My vocal cords swelled shut last Friday night.  It's an old children's
disease and it looks like I'm the old recorded person to have it. (Just
turned 50 on 1/6).  A wonderful wife to care for me and a God who is
Faithful.

Maybe the whole story for individuals who ask.  I won't fill the list with
too much personal stuff.  It's just after 8:00 and I'm much too bored
(read: ADD) to lie in bed.

Ann,
I got the box.  The stuff is beautiful.  APX 25 will be fun.  How are
things going?  Fill me in directly.

Boris,
I'm going out hunting for that Sigma 72mm hood next week.  They tell me
that they don't stock that part, but if any town has one, this is it. 
(I've got a Tokina wide hood that might work???)

Collin



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RE: OT: NYT article on Digital Cameras (PMA)

[Jens Bladt]

True, except I didn't write what you quoted me for - and the D100 was not
the top of the line Nikon DSLR. Nikon users had other options for upgrading.
Other than that, I agree with Sylwek, except I don't expect Pentax to
release a camera like that any day soon.
I doubt Pentax will release a 645D and a *ist D2 at the same time.

Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 4. februar 2006 12:11
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: OT: NYT article on Digital Cameras (PMA)


Jens Bladt wrote on 04.02.06 11:47:

> It almost seems that the original *ist D was thrown out there to shut us
> up.  After all it was the feature-equivalent competitor of the then
> advanced amateur level camera like the D100 and 10D.  Problem is they
> haven't given us a D200 or 20D competitor (granted the D200 was a late
> successor to the D100).
Well, if *istD successor would show up this year it would be similar time as
Nikon user's had to wait for D100 successor - D200. And I hope *istD2
(whatever) will be similar in specs to D200 - much faster AF (especially in
low light), bigger buffer, 10MPix, full K-lenses compatibility... It doesn't
even have to be weather sealed if it would be 400$ cheaper than D200 ;-)

--
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek

FS lately

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Needless to say hospitals are expeinsive.
Just before the stay I got an interesting lens off Craig's List.
It's an old Canon S2 rangefinder 50/1:1.2.
A really big chunk of glass.
Anyone interested?

And there's certainly more to come.


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Re: ot back in the saddle again

[Cotty]

On 4/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:

>I was in the hospital  all of last week.   Four days asleep in ICU just
>waiting.
>My vocal cords swelled shut last Friday night.  It's an old children's
>disease and it looks like I'm the old recorded person to have it. (Just
>turned 50 on 1/6).  A wonderful wife to care for me and a God who is
>Faithful.
>
>Maybe the whole story for individuals who ask.  I won't fill the list with
>too much personal stuff.  It's just after 8:00 and I'm much too bored
>(read: ADD) to lie in bed.

Hi Collin,

Hope you're on the mend now. My son gets stridor whith a soar throat and
so I know how anxious the situation can be. The first time he had it he
was two years old and we thought it was asthma. Mercifully not, and he
is not as acute as when he was younger - he's 12 now - but still
alarming nonetheless. 

Get well soon.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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_

OT: Tokina RMC 17/3.5

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

I picked up this lens in the Fall.  With film it's really pretty mediocre.
But with the DS it's a really outstanding performer.  Surprizing.
They show up as e-fodder for about $100 on occasion.
Recommended.

Collin


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RE: lens enablement

[Jens Bladt]

Scott, I'm not an expert, but, well...
The Pentax FA 24-90mm is excellent (I'm told), but not too fast
The Tokina AT-X Pro II 2.6-2.8 28-70mm is excellent (I am wearing out my
second one now)
The FA* 2.8 28-70mm is supposed to be even better/the best, but rather
expensive.
The Tamron AF 28-75mm 2,8 SP XR Di LD ASL IF Macro is supposed to be
excellent (some PDML'er have praized it)
(The Tamron 3.5-5-6 28-80mm sucks/less than mediocre)
The SMC Pentax -F 4/24-50mm is a very good and compact lens, if you can find
one :-)
The Sigma AF 28-70/2,8 is "only" rated 3,0 a www.Photodo.com, which is
really not too sensational

I would go for the
Tokina AT-X (I got my latets off ebay, brand new for apr 250 USD - great
value for money)
or the
Tamron AF 28-75mm 2,8 SP XR Di, which is not too expensive - apr. 288 Euro
in Germany - provided an FA* 2.8/28-70mm is not an option.

Regards

Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

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Fra: Scott Loveless [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 1. februar 2006 02:35
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: lens enablement


Howdy!

I'm considering enabling myself with a new zoom lens or two.  While I
don't really use zooms that much for my personal photography, I've
been offered a handful of wedding jobs and am looking at some faster
(f2.8) lenses.  Pentax lenses would normally be my choice, but they
seem to be expensive and rather hard to find these days.  Does anyone
have an opinion on zooms in the 24-90mm range (give or take) from
Sigma, Tamron and Tokina?

--
Scott Loveless
http://www.twosixteen.com

--
"You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman

RE: OT: NYT article on Digital Cameras (PMA)

[Cory Papenfuss]

On Sat, 4 Feb 2006, Jens Bladt wrote:


Hmmm..
Pentax had a consumer base for the *ist D. People like us who already have
many Pentax SLR lenses.
The D upgrade will not have too many buyers. This is a plausible reason for
the "consumer" DSLR's that followed.
The next digital "upgrade" is more likely a 645D - appealing to many 645
users. There are not too many 645's for sale at the moment - not compared to
Mamiya- I guess some 645 users are waiting for the 645D ?? There are loads
of Mamiya 645 for sale at ebay at the moment. Mamiya already announced their
22 Mp 645D (Mamiya ZD) more than a year ago. In the 645D market Pentax have
been much too slow also. Would you expect Pentax to release a 645D AND a
*ist D2 simultaneously? I doubt it.
Regards

	I don't know that I'd agree.  The -D is getting long in the tooth 
and it shows it (small buffer, blindingly stupid waste of space in RAW 
files, USB-1, etc).  I would say there would be significant incentive to 
upgrade from any of the D series to a new D2 if the killer features were 
added:


- 8-12 MP APS sensor.  Full-frame probably too much to ask for at a 
reasonable price level.  Must have good noise levels.

- Full K-mount support
- Upgraded electronics (larger LCD, buffer, faster USB, and [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
lossless compression in RAW files)

- Ergonomics of the -D (possibly improved a bit, but I wouldn't know)

	If those features were added, it would be a very tangible and 
tempting upgrade from the -D{,S,L,S2,L2}.


-Cory

--

*
* Cory Papenfuss*
* Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student   *
* Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University   *
*

Paw Tree on Con Road, NO Rail

[brooksdj]

Hi Troops
Here is another version of the tree with no guard rail shot.

  
http://photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/?action=view¤t=deadtree-4479.jpg
   

Comments are appreciated

ist D Zenitar 16mm Fisheye, around 125 at F11 or 16

Dave

Re: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

[Jan van Wijk]

On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 15:10:45 -0500, Kenneth Waller wrote:

>Seeking comments about usage/performance on FA lenses. 
>Image degradation/auto focus performance etc.

It is VERY good in my experience.

I liked mine so much, I got another used one as spare :-)
One is almost permanently on the A 300mm f/2.8 and 
the other is used with all the others.

Works great on MF lenses, and is nice on an AF one 
to reduce the AF hunting area (focus limit).

Quality seems quite good, can hardly see a difference between
this 1.7 one and the two 1.4x or 2x L converters when used on
the 300mm (and 510mm f/5 on the *istD is good for wildlife :-)

Regards, JvW

--
Jan van Wijk;   http://www.dfsee.com/gallery

Re: GFM Nature Photography Weekend registration is open

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Cotty"

Subject: Re: GFM Nature Photography Weekend registration is open



On 3/2/06, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:


It was the filthiest drive in I've ever seen


The women have tattoos? 


All Canadian women have tattoos. It seems to be a rite of passage.

William Robb

Re: This is new for mew

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!


Hey Boris, you thinking of an E-500 ?


Absolutely not. It is just that I was rather surprised to realize that 
my lenses could be mounted on this kind of camera(s)(s)...


Boris

Re: Cool things I learned today.

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Boris Liberman"

Subject: Re: Cool things I learned today.



Hi!


Colour management is fun.


You must understand it then :-)


The little switch got thrown today.


Care to elaborate, mr Robb?


I discovered that the built in profiles that Epson provides work pretty 
darned well.
I discovered that if the printer colour management is on, colour management 
in Photoshop should be off.
I discovered that one can turn colour management off on the printer, load 
the appropriate paper profile into the printer and lo and behold, the colour 
charts suddenly start to look the way they should.
I discovered that colour management in Photoshop is way easier to attend to 
than fiddling the printer driver to make the colour right.
I suspect I didn't know this before now because I've never had a printer 
that actually came with a data base of colour profiles, so I was always 
writing my own.


I also made a few 16x24 inch prints using a single istD exposure as the 
source, and they look really good.


My 4800 came with a flaw, the paper tray isn't quite right. Epson is sending 
another one out to me next week, so I am trying to drain the tanks in this 
one...


William Robb

Re: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

[Kenneth Waller]

Seeking comments about usage/performance on FA lenses.


Thanks to all that responded to my request - one of the great things about 
this list.


I was thinking about specifically using it on my 600mm FA & 300mm FA

Curious as to what they cost nowadays.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: "Jan van Wijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Subject: Re: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter



On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 15:10:45 -0500, Kenneth Waller wrote:


Seeking comments about usage/performance on FA lenses.
Image degradation/auto focus performance etc.


It is VERY good in my experience.

I liked mine so much, I got another used one as spare :-)
One is almost permanently on the A 300mm f/2.8 and
the other is used with all the others.

Works great on MF lenses, and is nice on an AF one
to reduce the AF hunting area (focus limit).

Quality seems quite good, can hardly see a difference between
this 1.7 one and the two 1.4x or 2x L converters when used on
the 300mm (and 510mm f/5 on the *istD is good for wildlife :-)

Regards, JvW

--
Jan van Wijk;   http://www.dfsee.com/gallery

Re: Paw Tree on Con Road, NO Rail

[brooksdj]

Thanks Ken. I'll see what i have.:-)

This is why i take several angles of things. 

Dave

> Really nice Dave!
> 
> It just needs something man made in the foreground to give perspective < G>>
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Paw Tree on Con Road, NO Rail
> 
> 
> >  Hi Troops
> > Here is another version of the tree with no guard rail shot.
> >
> >
> > http://photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/?action=view¤t=deadtree-4479.jpg
> >
> > Comments are appreciated
> >
> > ist D Zenitar 16mm Fisheye, around 125 at F11 or 16
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > 
> 

Re: Paw Tree on Con Road, NO Rail

[Kenneth Waller]

Really nice Dave!

It just needs something man made in the foreground to give perspective >


Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Paw Tree on Con Road, NO Rail



 Hi Troops
Here is another version of the tree with no guard rail shot.


http://photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/?action=view¤t=deadtree-4479.jpg

Comments are appreciated

ist D Zenitar 16mm Fisheye, around 125 at F11 or 16

Dave

Re: OT: Prayer for my Daughter

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

She remains in the hospital this evening. They have run the gamut of 
tests since yesterday. EKG, blood work, spleen, thyroid, chest x-ray and 
CAT scan this afternoon all showing nothing abnormal.  They still do not 
know what is wrong with her though. The infectious disease specialist 
was the last doctor today to examine her and his only take on it is that 
perhaps is some sort of viral infection.  He said that he has seen a few 
patients recently with similar symptoms.
Nicole looked better today, but was still suffering the headaches and 
her blood pressure still would drop pretty far when she stands up.  They 
are going to keep her another night  at least maybe have some sort of 
prognosis tomorrow.  Now that they were able to rule several things out 
they were able to give her some pain medication so she was able to get 
some good rest tonight. We continue to remain faithful that her health 
will be fully restored.
Though I don't actually had the pleasure of meeting any of you folks, I 
consider you  all to be friends. Again, thank you for your prayers and 
encouragement.  And may God bless you and your families.


Local (Israeli) medicine maintains that if one has a viral infection 
only rest and pain killers (if necessary) are worth it. Otherwise, the 
patient has to heal themselves... I don't subscribe to this just like I 
don't subscribe to many local opinions... Nonetheless, if your daughter 
is starting to feel better, it is evidently a good sign.


Pass her our best wishes and hopes that she'll keep improving.

Boris

Re: Cool things I learned today.

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

I discovered that the built in profiles that Epson provides work pretty 
darned well


I see... Happy discovering ;-)...

A question to you... Recently I bumped into odd kind of problem. I 
submitted b/w RGB JPGs (30x40 cm at 300 dpi) for print to a supposedly 
pro lab in Tel Aviv... They complained that it should've been 400 dpi... 
So they said they'd up-res for me... I agreed somewhat reluctantly.


Then the prints came out bluish. Reluctantly they agreed that this was 
their fault... So I asked them what could I do.. And they told me this: 
they have two machines (one I know to be Fuji Frontier, the other is 
unknown to me)... The bigger one is somewhat more stupid... The smaller 
one (print size up to 25x38 cm) can be forced to proper black and 
white... So I had to redo my files and they came out smaller yet 
beautifully toned.


A question - am I going to have to live in smaller print size world 
forever? They do publish some kind of color profile on their web site... 
Unfortunately all the instructions are in Hebrew and beyond my ability 
to read...


Any help would be appreciated.

Boris

GFM: Only 69 spots left

[Mark Roberts]

No kidding. Out of 165 available slots, 95 were sold on the first day of
registration. That means there only 69 left... at best. No telling how
many went between the time when Don emailed me and I hit the send button
on this message.
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

[Jens Bladt]

I have used mine a lot on the M* 4/300mm with great reslults.
But why use an AF adapter on AF lenses?
I'm not sure AF works (well or at all) on an AF lens. 

Regards
Jens
Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Kenneth Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 4. februar 2006 18:08
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter


>>Seeking comments about usage/performance on FA lenses.

Thanks to all that responded to my request - one of the great things about 
this list.

I was thinking about specifically using it on my 600mm FA & 300mm FA

Curious as to what they cost nowadays.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: "Jan van Wijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Re: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter


> On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 15:10:45 -0500, Kenneth Waller wrote:
>
>>Seeking comments about usage/performance on FA lenses.
>>Image degradation/auto focus performance etc.
>
> It is VERY good in my experience.
>
> I liked mine so much, I got another used one as spare :-)
> One is almost permanently on the A 300mm f/2.8 and
> the other is used with all the others.
>
> Works great on MF lenses, and is nice on an AF one
> to reduce the AF hunting area (focus limit).
>
> Quality seems quite good, can hardly see a difference between
> this 1.7 one and the two 1.4x or 2x L converters when used on
> the 300mm (and 510mm f/5 on the *istD is good for wildlife :-)
>
> Regards, JvW
>
> --
> Jan van Wijk;   http://www.dfsee.com/gallery
>
> 

Re: Cool things I learned today.

[Shel Belinkoff]

Boris,

You're in Israel, in Tel Aviv ... I'm sure you can find someone to read and
xlate the instructions for you. I know you have friends and associates
there.  Do you mean to say ~none~ of them can help you?

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Boris Liberman 

> A question - am I going to have to live in smaller print size world 
> forever? They do publish some kind of color profile on their web site... 
> Unfortunately all the instructions are in Hebrew and beyond my ability 
> to read...
>
> Any help would be appreciated.

RE: Prayer for my Daughter

[Jens Bladt]

JayT.
My thouhgs will be with you. Having two daughters my self (and a son) I can
relate to how you must feel.
I wish you her very best. Keep us posted, please.
Regards
Jens

Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Jay Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 3. februar 2006 08:06
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: OT: Prayer for my Daughter


PDML'ers,
Please say a prayer for my daughter Nicole. Some of you may remember
the photos I usually post of my grandson; she is his Mom.  She was
admitted to the hospital this evening. We do not know what is wrong
with her. She's been experiencing headache, chest pain and elevated
heart rate. She went to the emergency room yesterday where they ran
some tests including EKG which showed no abnormality. After a nights
rest she still was feeling bad this morning so she went to see her
doctor. Their office could not determine what is going on with her and
recommended that she be hospitalized for observation and further tests.
The medical team there discussed further tests including her spleen and
a CAT scan  as well.

Thank you,
JayT

RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

[John Whittingham]

Hi, thanks Jens. That panorama really is impressive, not just the image but 
the work you have done. I'm not in the market for an expensive lens such as 
the FA* 80-200 2.8 I'd be lucky if I could afford the Sigma alternative, I'm 
still hoping for something good from the promised FA zoom on the roadmap.

When you use the converter with an FA lens is it the converter that does the 
focusing or the lens?

Best regards,

John

John Whittingham

Technician

"you can't be optimistic with a misty optic"

-- Original Message ---
From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 11:08:35 +0100
Subject: RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

> Yes, John.
> I have used mine with a 2.5/135mm many times. I have used it for concert
> shots and for long distance panoramas.
> This one was shot with this combo:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/41643010/in/set-877712/
> 
> The lack of sharpness is motion blur (subject/camera), not caused by 
> the lens. So, don't forget that the converter will "eat some light" -
>  perhaps 1½ F-stop. If you have enough light, it's fabulous.
> 
> If you don't a FA 2.8/200mm, a FA* 2.8/80-200mm  (both rather 
> expensive) or a K 2.5/200mm (if you can find one) may be a better choise.
> 
> And this panrama was made with this combo as well:
> http://gallery13117.fotopic.net/p21530701.html
> Try to watch it in full size - it's incredibly sharp - you can 
> clearly see steel wires rather far away. I the mittle of the picture 
> (to the right of the blue chimney) is a steel pylon (for TV 
> broadcast). It is possible to count the small steel beams inside 
> this pylon (in the original picture). This pylon is apr. 15 km away 
> from where I was standing. The beams are perhaps one inch thick. 
> Amazing, don't you think?
> 
> Regards
> Jens
> 
> Jens Bladt
> http://www.jensbladt.dk
> 
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: John Whittingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sendt: 4. februar 2006 10:26
> Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Emne: RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter
> 
> > This is a great tool. Absolutely top quality. I only have good
> > things to say about this item. Focusing is accurate, the image
> > quality is excellent. It makes focusing more accurate that MF. It's
> > actually one of the best Pentax products I have ever bought. It's
> > simply highly recomendable. You will never regret buying one of
> > these - it's better than any other converter you will come across. I
> > will never sell mine, no matter how attractive the offer may be. I
> > can't believe Pentax stoped making this - it is very usefull.
> 
> Has anyone any exprience of using the converter with the SMC 135mm 
> f/2.5, I've been considering looking for one seconhand for some time,
>  I'm currently using the FA 135 f/2.8 with a Kenko SHQ 1.5x 
> converter as my 200mm AF lens and wondered if there would be any 
> advantage optically other than a slight increase in FL.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John
> 
> John Whittingham
> 
> Technician
> 
> "you can't be optimistic with a misty optic"
> 
> 
> 
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RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

[Jens Bladt]

Thanks, John.
For panoramas like this, there's no way I could ever focus this accurate
(for each frame) by hand - even very small variations of the focus distance
will be taken care of by the AF adapter.
The converter does the focusing (I should have figured this out :-) -
there's NO "SCREWDRIVER-Conection" - naturally, since the adapter was made
for MF lenses (without a screwdriver).

I just tested it with my Fa 1.4/50mm. It works just fine - but only within a
certain range (can't "hunt" all the way back and forth).
Regards
Jens
Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: John Whittingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 4. februar 2006 20:10
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter


Hi, thanks Jens. That panorama really is impressive, not just the image but
the work you have done. I'm not in the market for an expensive lens such as
the FA* 80-200 2.8 I'd be lucky if I could afford the Sigma alternative, I'm
still hoping for something good from the promised FA zoom on the roadmap.

When you use the converter with an FA lens is it the converter that does the
focusing or the lens?

Best regards,

John

John Whittingham

Technician

"you can't be optimistic with a misty optic"

-- Original Message ---
From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 11:08:35 +0100
Subject: RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

> Yes, John.
> I have used mine with a 2.5/135mm many times. I have used it for concert
> shots and for long distance panoramas.
> This one was shot with this combo:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/41643010/in/set-877712/
>
> The lack of sharpness is motion blur (subject/camera), not caused by
> the lens. So, don't forget that the converter will "eat some light" -
>  perhaps 1½ F-stop. If you have enough light, it's fabulous.
>
> If you don't a FA 2.8/200mm, a FA* 2.8/80-200mm  (both rather
> expensive) or a K 2.5/200mm (if you can find one) may be a better choise.
>
> And this panrama was made with this combo as well:
> http://gallery13117.fotopic.net/p21530701.html
> Try to watch it in full size - it's incredibly sharp - you can
> clearly see steel wires rather far away. I the mittle of the picture
> (to the right of the blue chimney) is a steel pylon (for TV
> broadcast). It is possible to count the small steel beams inside
> this pylon (in the original picture). This pylon is apr. 15 km away
> from where I was standing. The beams are perhaps one inch thick.
> Amazing, don't you think?
>
> Regards
> Jens
>
> Jens Bladt
> http://www.jensbladt.dk
>
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: John Whittingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sendt: 4. februar 2006 10:26
> Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Emne: RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter
>
> > This is a great tool. Absolutely top quality. I only have good
> > things to say about this item. Focusing is accurate, the image
> > quality is excellent. It makes focusing more accurate that MF. It's
> > actually one of the best Pentax products I have ever bought. It's
> > simply highly recomendable. You will never regret buying one of
> > these - it's better than any other converter you will come across. I
> > will never sell mine, no matter how attractive the offer may be. I
> > can't believe Pentax stoped making this - it is very usefull.
>
> Has anyone any exprience of using the converter with the SMC 135mm
> f/2.5, I've been considering looking for one seconhand for some time,
>  I'm currently using the FA 135 f/2.8 with a Kenko SHQ 1.5x
> converter as my 200mm AF lens and wondered if there would be any
> advantage optically other than a slight increase in FL.
>
> Regards,
>
> John
>
> John Whittingham
>
> Technician
>
> "you can't be optimistic with a misty optic"
>
> --
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> 
>
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>
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> guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any
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>
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> inappropriate content, the college cannot
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The informat

Re: This is new for mew

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

The Oly 4/3 SLRs have the shortest mount register of any SLR on the  
market ... 38.67mm. I haven't seen one yet, but it's short enough  
that an adapter could be made even for Canon FL/FD series lenses  
(42.00mm). That would open up a lot of now ancient and very cheap but  
excellent lenses if someone made the adapter.


The adaptation possibility for Pentax K-mount makes the possibility  
of an Olympus, or Panasonic, 4/3 camera an intriguing idea. I am  
pretty sure that Pentax will eventually come out with their D  
followon, probably with a 10mpixel sensor, but if they don't the  
possibility exists that a Panasonic 4/3 SLR body with built in image  
stabilization could be useful.


Godfrey

OT: Mamiya 645 1000s

[Jens Bladt]

Sorry 'bout this but; are there any Mamiya 645 1000s users here, please??
Please write me off list. I have a couple of OT (Non Pentax) questions for
you :-)

Regards
Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

Re: OT: Looking for mini enablement

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I picked one up from a dealer's junk box at a swap meet for $4 a few  
years ago. If I could find it, I'd sell it to you for the same but  
postage might cost 5x that much.


Godfrey

On Feb 3, 2006, at 10:33 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:


Hi!

I've decided to return to film shooting for a while... To do it in  
style ;-), I need a range-finder unit - you know, one that clips on  
flash shoe - just to measure distance... Preferably both in feet  
and meters or just in feet... If anyone has a working device that  
fits above description - I'd be happy to be enabled by you.


Thanks.

Boris

P.S. To make things clear - I'm not looking for range finder  
camera, just for range finder piece to measure distance (in feet).

Re: lens enablement

[Derby Chang]

Hi Scott,

I only have the Sigma AF 28-70/2.8 EX DF so I can't compare it with the 
other lenses. Not sure if this is the same as the Aspherical tested on 
photodo:

http://www.photodo.com/prod/lens/sigma.shtml#Sigma (a rather poor 3.5)

But it isn't too bad for me, although I'm no expert either. Well built, 
reasonably sharp, so-so bokeh, comparatively inexpensive.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/index4/05_10_spring/index.htm

A somewhat more generous reviews here:
http://www.photozone.de/8Reviews/reviews/sigma2470.htm
http://www.popphoto.com/assets/download/311200313351.pdf

D



Jens Bladt wrote:

Scott, I'm not an expert, but, well...
The Pentax FA 24-90mm is excellent (I'm told), but not too fast
The Tokina AT-X Pro II 2.6-2.8 28-70mm is excellent (I am wearing out my
second one now)
The FA* 2.8 28-70mm is supposed to be even better/the best, but rather
expensive.
The Tamron AF 28-75mm 2,8 SP XR Di LD ASL IF Macro is supposed to be
excellent (some PDML'er have praized it)
(The Tamron 3.5-5-6 28-80mm sucks/less than mediocre)
The SMC Pentax -F 4/24-50mm is a very good and compact lens, if you can find
one :-)
The Sigma AF 28-70/2,8 is "only" rated 3,0 a www.Photodo.com, which is
really not too sensational

I would go for the
Tokina AT-X (I got my latets off ebay, brand new for apr 250 USD - great
value for money)
or the
Tamron AF 28-75mm 2,8 SP XR Di, which is not too expensive - apr. 288 Euro
in Germany - provided an FA* 2.8/28-70mm is not an option.

Regards

Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Scott Loveless [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 1. februar 2006 02:35
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: lens enablement


Howdy!

I'm considering enabling myself with a new zoom lens or two.  While I
don't really use zooms that much for my personal photography, I've
been offered a handful of wedding jobs and am looking at some faster
(f2.8) lenses.  Pentax lenses would normally be my choice, but they
seem to be expensive and rather hard to find these days.  Does anyone
have an opinion on zooms in the 24-90mm range (give or take) from
Sigma, Tamron and Tokina?

--
Scott Loveless
http://www.twosixteen.com

--
"You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman




  



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RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

[John Whittingham]

Thanks again Jens, very informative as always.

> I just tested it with my Fa 1.4/50mm. It works just fine - but only 
> within a certain range (can't "hunt" all the way back and forth).

Would it be preferable to set the lens at infinity or a shorter distance in 
your opinion.

Regards,

John

John Whittingham

Technician

"you can't be optimistic with a misty optic"

-- Original Message ---
From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 20:25:55 +0100
Subject: RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

> Thanks, John.
> For panoramas like this, there's no way I could ever focus this accurate
> 
> (for each frame) by hand - even very small variations of the focus distance
> will be taken care of by the AF adapter.
> The converter does the focusing (I should have figured this out :-) -
> there's NO "SCREWDRIVER-Conection" - naturally, since the adapter 
> was made for MF lenses (without a screwdriver).
> 
> I just tested it with my Fa 1.4/50mm. It works just fine - but only 
> within a certain range (can't "hunt" all the way back and forth). Regards
> Jens
> Jens Bladt
> http://www.jensbladt.dk
> 
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: John Whittingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sendt: 4. februar 2006 20:10
> Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Emne: RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter
> 
> Hi, thanks Jens. That panorama really is impressive, not just the 
> image but the work you have done. I'm not in the market for an 
> expensive lens such as the FA* 80-200 2.8 I'd be lucky if I could 
> afford the Sigma alternative, I'm still hoping for something good 
> from the promised FA zoom on the roadmap.
> 
> When you use the converter with an FA lens is it the converter that 
> does the focusing or the lens?
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> John
> 
> John Whittingham
> 
> Technician
> 
> "you can't be optimistic with a misty optic"
> 
> -- Original Message ---
> From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 11:08:35 +0100
> Subject: RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter
> 
> > Yes, John.
> > I have used mine with a 2.5/135mm many times. I have used it for concert
> > shots and for long distance panoramas.
> > This one was shot with this combo:
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/41643010/in/set-877712/
> >
> > The lack of sharpness is motion blur (subject/camera), not caused by
> > the lens. So, don't forget that the converter will "eat some light" -
> >  perhaps 1½ F-stop. If you have enough light, it's fabulous.
> >
> > If you don't a FA 2.8/200mm, a FA* 2.8/80-200mm  (both rather
> > expensive) or a K 2.5/200mm (if you can find one) may be a better choise.
> >
> > And this panrama was made with this combo as well:
> > http://gallery13117.fotopic.net/p21530701.html
> > Try to watch it in full size - it's incredibly sharp - you can
> > clearly see steel wires rather far away. I the mittle of the picture
> > (to the right of the blue chimney) is a steel pylon (for TV
> > broadcast). It is possible to count the small steel beams inside
> > this pylon (in the original picture). This pylon is apr. 15 km away
> > from where I was standing. The beams are perhaps one inch thick.
> > Amazing, don't you think?
> >
> > Regards
> > Jens
> >
> > Jens Bladt
> > http://www.jensbladt.dk
> >
> > -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> > Fra: John Whittingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sendt: 4. februar 2006 10:26
> > Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Emne: RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter
> >
> > > This is a great tool. Absolutely top quality. I only have good
> > > things to say about this item. Focusing is accurate, the image
> > > quality is excellent. It makes focusing more accurate that MF. It's
> > > actually one of the best Pentax products I have ever bought. It's
> > > simply highly recomendable. You will never regret buying one of
> > > these - it's better than any other converter you will come across. I
> > > will never sell mine, no matter how attractive the offer may be. I
> > > can't believe Pentax stoped making this - it is very usefull.
> >
> > Has anyone any exprience of using the converter with the SMC 135mm
> > f/2.5, I've been considering looking for one seconhand for some time,
> >  I'm currently using the FA 135 f/2.8 with a Kenko SHQ 1.5x
> > converter as my 200mm AF lens and wondered if there would be any
> > advantage optically other than a slight increase in FL.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > John
> >
> > John Whittingham
> >
> > Technician
> >
> > "you can't be optimistic with a misty optic"
> >
> > --
> --
> > 
> >
> > The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom
> > it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged
> > material. If you have received an email in error please notify
> > Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it
> > from your systems.
> >
> > Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails

Re: GFM: Only 69 spots left

[brooksdj]

Wow.

I didi mine and Franks at the same time, on my invoice Fiday morn, and we are 
number 41.
Missed 42
by that much.
Sorry about that chief.

Dave   

> No kidding. Out of 165 available slots, 95 
were sold on the first day of
> registration. That means there only 69 left... at best. No telling how
> many went between the time when Don emailed me and I hit the send button
> on this message.
>  
>  
> -- 
> Mark Roberts
> Photography and writing
> www.robertstech.com
> 

RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

[Kostas Kavoussanakis]

On Sat, 4 Feb 2006, John Whittingham wrote:


Would it be preferable to set the lens at infinity or a shorter distance in
your opinion.


The manual states that you may get vignetting if not at infinity. But 
the T/C does not have a great focussing range (trade-off for speed), 
so some times you are forced to pre-focus (if approximately).


Kostas

Re: GFM: Only 69 spots left

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Sounds like y'all will have fun. I don't think I'm going to be able  
to make it ... It's an expensive trip for me, and I have other things  
already booked that impact time near those dates.


Godfrey

On Feb 4, 2006, at 9:40 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

No kidding. Out of 165 available slots, 95 were sold on the first  
day of

registration. That means there only 69 left... at best. No telling how
many went between the time when Don emailed me and I hit the send  
button

on this message.


--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: Cool things I learned today.

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Essential is more like it.

Epson's profiles are generally very good for their papers. I use the  
print driver adjustment only for doing toning on B&W prints, and that  
pretty occasionally.


Godfrey

On Feb 3, 2006, at 8:08 PM, William Robb wrote:


Colour management is fun.

William Robb

RE: OT - Schneider Curtagon Glass

[Jens Bladt]

Rob, surfing a MF-related web site, I came across the email address of
Keving Ing - the guy who tested all the Russina/German MF lenses - also a
Curtagon:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Regards
Jens





Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 2. februar 2006 23:30
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: OT - Schneider Curtagon Glass


On 2 Feb 2006 at 4:52, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

> Hi Gang,
>
> Anyone here know much, or anything, about the Schneider Curtagon series of
> lenses?  They seem to have been made in several focal lengths, varieties,
> and for a few formats.  Searching has brought up only minimal information
>  I'm looking for more detailed info, including opinions or pics of the
> imaging qualities.

I had a Schneider-Kreuznach PA-Curtagon 1:4/35 shift lens in Pentax screw
mount
for a few years, it was a great performer and very compact for a shift lens
though I never did any formal testing.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: ot back in the saddle again

[David Weiss]

Hi Collin,

Hope you get through your illness in good shape.  
Let me know if you stumble across any darkroom stuff.

Dave




On 4/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated,
unleashed:

>I was in the hospital  all of last week.   Four days asleep
in ICU just
>waiting.
>My vocal cords swelled shut last Friday night.  It's an old
children's
>disease and it looks like I'm the old recorded person to
have it. (Just
>turned 50 on 1/6).  A wonderful wife to care for me and a
God who is
>Faithful.
>
>Maybe the whole story for individuals who ask.  I won't fill
the list with
>too much personal stuff.  It's just after 8:00 and I'm much
too bored
>(read: ADD) to lie in bed.

__
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com 

RE: OT - Schneider Curtagon Glass

[Jens Bladt]

darned - it does not work anymore - sorry!
Jens


Rob, surfing a MF-related web site, I came across the email address of
Keving Ing - the guy who tested all the Russina/German MF lenses - also a
Curtagon:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Regards
Jens





Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 2. februar 2006 23:30
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: OT - Schneider Curtagon Glass


On 2 Feb 2006 at 4:52, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

> Hi Gang,
>
> Anyone here know much, or anything, about the Schneider Curtagon series of
> lenses?  They seem to have been made in several focal lengths, varieties,
> and for a few formats.  Searching has brought up only minimal information
>  I'm looking for more detailed info, including opinions or pics of the
> imaging qualities.

I had a Schneider-Kreuznach PA-Curtagon 1:4/35 shift lens in Pentax screw
mount
for a few years, it was a great performer and very compact for a shift lens
though I never did any formal testing.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: ot back in the saddle again

[Bob Sullivan]

Collin,
Good you are healing.  Childhood deseases are a pain.
Regards,  Bob S.

On 2/4/06, David Weiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Collin,
>
> Hope you get through your illness in good shape.
> Let me know if you stumble across any darkroom stuff.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> On 4/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated,
> unleashed:
>
> >I was in the hospital  all of last week.   Four days asleep
> in ICU just
> >waiting.
> >My vocal cords swelled shut last Friday night.  It's an old
> children's
> >disease and it looks like I'm the old recorded person to
> have it. (Just
> >turned 50 on 1/6).  A wonderful wife to care for me and a
> God who is
> >Faithful.
> >
> >Maybe the whole story for individuals who ask.  I won't fill
> the list with
> >too much personal stuff.  It's just after 8:00 and I'm much
> too bored
> >(read: ADD) to lie in bed.
>
> __
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> http://mail.yahoo.com
>
>

Re: Paw Tree on Con Road, NO Rail

[Bob Sullivan]

Dave, Very nice without the guard rail!  Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, 4 Feb 2006 12:27:46 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks Ken. I'll see what i have.:-)
>
> This is why i take several angles of things.
>
> Dave
>
>> Really nice Dave!
> >
> > It just needs something man made in the foreground to give perspective < > G>>
> >
> > Kenneth Waller
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Paw Tree on Con Road, NO Rail
> >
> >
> > >  Hi Troops
> > > Here is another version of the tree with no guard rail shot.
> > >
> > >
> > > http://photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/?action=view¤t=deadtree-4479.jpg
> > >
> > > Comments are appreciated
> > >
> > > ist D Zenitar 16mm Fisheye, around 125 at F11 or 16
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Cool things I learned today.

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Boris Liberman"

Subject: Re: Cool things I learned today.



Hi!

I discovered that the built in profiles that Epson provides work pretty 
darned well


I see... Happy discovering ;-)...

A question to you... Recently I bumped into odd kind of problem. I 
submitted b/w RGB JPGs (30x40 cm at 300 dpi) for print to a supposedly pro 
lab in Tel Aviv... They complained that it should've been 400 dpi... So 
they said they'd up-res for me... I agreed somewhat reluctantly.


It's important to know what the native resolution of the printer is.
Fuji's native resolution is 300dpi, Noritsu is 320.
Not sure about other makers machinery.
Most of them have pretty good interpoation algorithms built in. Noritsu does 
a beautiful job of up ressing smallish files.




Then the prints came out bluish. Reluctantly they agreed that this was 
their fault... So I asked them what could I do.. And they told me this: 
they have two machines (one I know to be Fuji Frontier, the other is 
unknown to me)... The bigger one is somewhat more stupid... The smaller 
one (print size up to 25x38 cm) can be forced to proper black and white... 
So I had to redo my files and they came out smaller yet beautifully toned.


A question - am I going to have to live in smaller print size world 
forever? They do publish some kind of color profile on their web site... 
Unfortunately all the instructions are in Hebrew and beyond my ability to 
read...


If they are printing to photographic paper, then the only profile they will 
really understand is sRGB.
For stuff I am doing at my lab, I set the pixel count to 320dpi, and then 
set the print size to just slightly larger than what I want. The printer 
seems to need about 1.4% waste space, for reasons unbeknownst to me. I then 
convert the file to 8bit sRGB and save it as a large jpeg for printing.
I can either upload it straight from my desktop to my lab, or carry the 
files in on a CD of camera card for printing.


William Robb

Re: ot back in the saddle again

[keith_w]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I was in the hospital  all of last week.   Four days asleep in ICU just
waiting.
My vocal cords swelled shut last Friday night.  It's an old children's
disease and it looks like I'm the old recorded person to have it. (Just
turned 50 on 1/6).  A wonderful wife to care for me and a God who is
Faithful.

Maybe the whole story for individuals who ask.  I won't fill the list with
too much personal stuff.  It's just after 8:00 and I'm much too bored
(read: ADD) to lie in bed.

Ann,
I got the box.  The stuff is beautiful.  APX 25 will be fun.  How are
things going?  Fill me in directly.

Boris,
I'm going out hunting for that Sigma 72mm hood next week.  They tell me
that they don't stock that part, but if any town has one, this is it. 
(I've got a Tokina wide hood that might work???)


Collin


Hah! Probably mumps.
I had them on graduation from high school night!
What's worse, the priniciple simply _had_ to say one of the graduates 
couldn't be there becaue he had mumps!

I was *mortified!*

Do take care. You do NOT want any of the more heinous side effects of 
the mumps.


keith

RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

[Jens Bladt]

... that depends on how far you want to focus. You set a proper range from
the beginning - or/and simply re-adjust as you go along. I guess it's
"close" - "medium" - "far" :-)
Regards
Jens

Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: John Whittingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 4. februar 2006 20:33
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter


Thanks again Jens, very informative as always.

> I just tested it with my Fa 1.4/50mm. It works just fine - but only
> within a certain range (can't "hunt" all the way back and forth).

Would it be preferable to set the lens at infinity or a shorter distance in
your opinion.

Regards,

John

John Whittingham

Technician

"you can't be optimistic with a misty optic"

-- Original Message ---
From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 20:25:55 +0100
Subject: RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

> Thanks, John.
> For panoramas like this, there's no way I could ever focus this accurate
>
> (for each frame) by hand - even very small variations of the focus
distance
> will be taken care of by the AF adapter.
> The converter does the focusing (I should have figured this out :-) -
> there's NO "SCREWDRIVER-Conection" - naturally, since the adapter
> was made for MF lenses (without a screwdriver).
>
> I just tested it with my Fa 1.4/50mm. It works just fine - but only
> within a certain range (can't "hunt" all the way back and forth). Regards
> Jens
> Jens Bladt
> http://www.jensbladt.dk
>
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: John Whittingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sendt: 4. februar 2006 20:10
> Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Emne: RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter
>
> Hi, thanks Jens. That panorama really is impressive, not just the
> image but the work you have done. I'm not in the market for an
> expensive lens such as the FA* 80-200 2.8 I'd be lucky if I could
> afford the Sigma alternative, I'm still hoping for something good
> from the promised FA zoom on the roadmap.
>
> When you use the converter with an FA lens is it the converter that
> does the focusing or the lens?
>
> Best regards,
>
> John
>
> John Whittingham
>
> Technician
>
> "you can't be optimistic with a misty optic"
>
> -- Original Message ---
> From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 11:08:35 +0100
> Subject: RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter
>
> > Yes, John.
> > I have used mine with a 2.5/135mm many times. I have used it for concert
> > shots and for long distance panoramas.
> > This one was shot with this combo:
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/41643010/in/set-877712/
> >
> > The lack of sharpness is motion blur (subject/camera), not caused by
> > the lens. So, don't forget that the converter will "eat some light" -
> >  perhaps 1½ F-stop. If you have enough light, it's fabulous.
> >
> > If you don't a FA 2.8/200mm, a FA* 2.8/80-200mm  (both rather
> > expensive) or a K 2.5/200mm (if you can find one) may be a better
choise.
> >
> > And this panrama was made with this combo as well:
> > http://gallery13117.fotopic.net/p21530701.html
> > Try to watch it in full size - it's incredibly sharp - you can
> > clearly see steel wires rather far away. I the mittle of the picture
> > (to the right of the blue chimney) is a steel pylon (for TV
> > broadcast). It is possible to count the small steel beams inside
> > this pylon (in the original picture). This pylon is apr. 15 km away
> > from where I was standing. The beams are perhaps one inch thick.
> > Amazing, don't you think?
> >
> > Regards
> > Jens
> >
> > Jens Bladt
> > http://www.jensbladt.dk
> >
> > -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> > Fra: John Whittingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sendt: 4. februar 2006 10:26
> > Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Emne: RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter
> >
> > > This is a great tool. Absolutely top quality. I only have good
> > > things to say about this item. Focusing is accurate, the image
> > > quality is excellent. It makes focusing more accurate that MF. It's
> > > actually one of the best Pentax products I have ever bought. It's
> > > simply highly recomendable. You will never regret buying one of
> > > these - it's better than any other converter you will come across. I
> > > will never sell mine, no matter how attractive the offer may be. I
> > > can't believe Pentax stoped making this - it is very usefull.
> >
> > Has anyone any exprience of using the converter with the SMC 135mm
> > f/2.5, I've been considering looking for one seconhand for some time,
> >  I'm currently using the FA 135 f/2.8 with a Kenko SHQ 1.5x
> > converter as my 200mm AF lens and wondered if there would be any
> > advantage optically other than a slight increase in FL.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > John
> >
> > John Whittingham
> >
> > Technician
> >
> > "you can't be optimistic with a misty optic"
> >
>
> --
> --
> > ---

Re: OT: Prayer for my Daughter

[keith_w]

Boris Liberman wrote:


Hi!

She remains in the hospital this evening. They have run the gamut of 
tests since yesterday. EKG, blood work, spleen, thyroid, chest x-ray 
and CAT scan this afternoon all showing nothing abnormal.  They still 
do not know what is wrong with her though. The infectious disease 
specialist was the last doctor today to examine her and his only take 
on it is that perhaps is some sort of viral infection.  He said that 
he has seen a few patients recently with similar symptoms.
Nicole looked better today, but was still suffering the headaches and 
her blood pressure still would drop pretty far when she stands up.  
They are going to keep her another night  at least maybe have some 
sort of prognosis tomorrow.  Now that they were able to rule several 
things out they were able to give her some pain medication so she was 
able to get some good rest tonight. We continue to remain faithful 
that her health will be fully restored.
Though I don't actually had the pleasure of meeting any of you folks, 
I consider you  all to be friends. Again, thank you for your prayers 
and encouragement.  And may God bless you and your families.



Local (Israeli) medicine maintains that if one has a viral infection 
only rest and pain killers (if necessary) are worth it. Otherwise, the 
patient has to heal themselves... I don't subscribe to this just like I 
don't subscribe to many local opinions... 


Up to you, Boris, but the facts are, the only thing that reliably kills 
a virus in the human body is heat.
That's why fevers are best tolerated if at all possible, and they stay 
reasonably low. A relatively low grade fever (102-103° F) will make the 
virus count plummet. Keep it long enough (a few days) and the virii die out!


There are other "medicines," but they are harmful to the body.
A fever is the body's way of killing viruses, and it works! Simple fact.

keith

Nonetheless, if your daughter 
is starting to feel better, it is evidently a good sign.


Pass her our best wishes and hopes that she'll keep improving.

Boris

Re: ot back in the saddle again

[keith_w]

keith_w wrote:

[...]

What's worse, the priniciple simply _had_ to say one of the graduates 
couldn't be there becaue he had mumps!

I was *mortified!*


Egad! I really meant "principal" and "because." Ooops!

keith

Do take care. You do NOT want any of the more heinous side effects of 
the mumps.


keith

Re: PAW - "Spring Mist"

[David Mann]

On Feb 4, 2006, at 7:13 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:


Hi!

Old-timers might remember this one as I'm pretty sure I showed it  
a few years ago.  I've recently re-scanned it...

http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/printsdb/view.php?p=203&t=1


Dave, this is very good. Do you have huge print made of it?


Not yet :)

- Dave

http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/

Re: OT: Tokina RMC 17/3.5

[Toine Kuiper]

I have used this lens for many years. I have always enjoyed it
(stopped down to f8 or f11) on the MX. It's almost as good as the
16-45 on the istD.


On 2/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I picked up this lens in the Fall.  With film it's really pretty mediocre.
> But with the DS it's a really outstanding performer.  Surprizing.
> They show up as e-fodder for about $100 on occasion.
> Recommended.
>
> Collin
>
> 
> mail2web - Check your email from the web at
> http://mail2web.com/ .
>
>
>
>

Re: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

[Rob Studdert]

On 4 Feb 2006 at 17:42, Jan van Wijk wrote:
 
> Quality seems quite good, can hardly see a difference between
> this 1.7 one and the two 1.4x or 2x L converters when used on
> the 300mm (and 510mm f/5 on the *istD is good for wildlife :-)

>From a set of semi-formal tests using the AF1.7, 1.4X-L and 2-XL convertors my 
1.7 appeared to perform the best. It offered optimum performance at wider 
apertures than the X-L convertors on the four 200mm + lenses that I tested them 
with.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

RE: OT: NYT article on Digital Cameras (PMA)

[Rob Studdert]

On 4 Feb 2006 at 10:13, Cory Papenfuss wrote:

>   I don't know that I'd agree.  The -D is getting long in the tooth 
> and it shows it (small buffer, blindingly stupid waste of space in RAW 
> files, USB-1, etc).  I would say there would be significant incentive to 
> upgrade from any of the D series to a new D2 if the killer features were 
> added:
> 
> - 8-12 MP APS sensor.  Full-frame probably too much to ask for at a 
> reasonable price level.  Must have good noise levels.
> - Full K-mount support
> - Upgraded electronics (larger LCD, buffer, faster USB, and [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> lossless compression in RAW files)
> - Ergonomics of the -D (possibly improved a bit, but I wouldn't know)
> 
>   If those features were added, it would be a very tangible and 
> tempting upgrade from the -D{,S,L,S2,L2}.

It is really pretty basic when it comes down to it, we've been waiting a long 
time for a D successor.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: Cool things I learned today.

[Rob Studdert]

On 4 Feb 2006 at 19:41, Boris Liberman wrote:

> A question to you... Recently I bumped into odd kind of problem. I 
> submitted b/w RGB JPGs (30x40 cm at 300 dpi) for print to a supposedly 
> pro lab in Tel Aviv... They complained that it should've been 400 dpi... 
> So they said they'd up-res for me... I agreed somewhat reluctantly.
> 
> Then the prints came out bluish. Reluctantly they agreed that this was 
> their fault... So I asked them what could I do.. And they told me this: 
> they have two machines (one I know to be Fuji Frontier, the other is 
> unknown to me)... The bigger one is somewhat more stupid... The smaller 
> one (print size up to 25x38 cm) can be forced to proper black and 
> white... So I had to redo my files and they came out smaller yet 
> beautifully toned.
> 
> A question - am I going to have to live in smaller print size world 
> forever? They do publish some kind of color profile on their web site... 
> Unfortunately all the instructions are in Hebrew and beyond my ability 
> to read...
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.

Regardless of the language barrier the lab staff appear to be incompetent, baby 
them to get what you want. In other words up-rez the file yourself (though 
their equipment should be able to handle it), make sure that you set the image 
resolution as they required and save the file as sRGB.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: From Cottyland

[keith_w]

Cotty wrote:

On 3/1/06, keith_w, discombobulated, unleashed:



Home reno?

Instead of buying new? Is that now defunct, and you'll make your current 
house what you all want it to be?


Poor Cotty!

Remodeling drives one (or all) nutso!




Well, we're calling it a new house because it's new to us. Actually it's
an ex barn (built of stone) converted in 1983 and very little done to it
since then. Renovation may be to strong a word - we are 'updating' it,
with some slight non-structural changes to suit (taking out a wall here,
adding a wall there). Will be moving in last weekend in January.



I'm doing some bathroom work today, tile grouting, painting, shower
curtains, that sort of thing. It's fun!

Cheers,
  Cotty


You in yet?

keiht

Re: ot back in the saddle again

[E.R.N. Reed]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I was in the hospital  all of last week.   


 


Glad you hear you're better, Collin.

Re: Paw Tree on Con Road, NO Rail

[brooksdj]

Thanks Bob.

I just wish we had some more snow.

Dave

> Dave, Very nice without the guard rail!  Regards,  
Bob S.
> 
> On Sat, 4 Feb 2006 12:27:46 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thanks Ken. I'll see what i have.:-)
> >
> > This is why i take several angles of things.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >> Really nice Dave!
> > >
> > > It just needs something man made in the foreground to give perspective 
> > > < > > G>>
> > >
> > > Kenneth Waller
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Subject: Paw Tree on Con Road, NO Rail
> > >
> > >
> > > >  Hi Troops
> > > > Here is another version of the tree with no guard rail shot.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/?action=view¤t=deadtree-4479.jpg
> > > >
> > > > Comments are appreciated
> > > >
> > > > ist D Zenitar 16mm Fisheye, around 125 at F11 or 16
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 

Spherical K15mm 3.5 shots...

[Cotty]

 masquerading as the latest in my moving house diary.

Cheap and cheerfullike me :-)






Cheers,
  Cotty


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RE: Help! - Pentax MG - 2 cameras, 2 problems

[Grunt]

Well just in case someone else is intereted I have answered both my question
all by myself. As mentioned in an earlier post the flash problem was just a
question of bending a contact after having removed the top cover.
As for the second question, I came by another MG on eBay which is a REAL
parts camera, basically nothing works, including the shutter which had
several blades out of place. On disassembling it I found the little spacers
are on the 2 posts on the left side that the screws that hold the shutter
box together screw into.
Will now try reassembling the MG... If it works after all this it will
replace my MX as my favourite camera, but the MX does not look too worried
yet, I wonder why.
Grant

Original message ---
Hello all,
I have 2 MGs, the first works fine except the flash. Before taking the top
off to check the contacts etc. I am curious to know how exactly the hot shoe
works and how to trouble shoot it. Am I right in assuming that it is a
simple on off switch that trips the flash by closing a circuit, likely very
briefly? My continuity tester doesn't see anything on a working camera. Any
suggestions would be appreciated. 
 
The second MG has been disassembled to get at the shutter box because the
blades were blocked. I took off the rear plate or the shutter box and found
a blade that had some how gotten on the wrong side of the frame separating
it from the forward shutter. I was able to replace everything the way it
should be and put the plate back on... and discovered a little bushing or
spacer laying on my work space. I think it came from the shutter, I was
being careful with the bits as I took the camera apart. Can anyone tell me
where the offending piece goes in the shutter, or if not, any suggestions
where it goes in the camera?
Picture at:
 
http://pages.videotron.com/granth/MGshuttertemp.html
 
Thanks in advance,
Grant H

Re: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

[David Savage]

On 2/5/06, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was thinking about specifically using it on my 600mm FA & 300mm FA
>
> Curious as to what they cost nowadays.

I got mine late last year new for AU$185 (approx. US$140).

Dave

> Kenneth Waller

Re: Cool things I learned today.

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 2/3/2006 8:09:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Colour management is fun.

William Robb


I always knew you were weird.

Marnie aka Doe ;-)

Re: Cool things I learned today.

[Mark Roberts]

"William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I discovered that the built in profiles that Epson provides work pretty 
>darned well.

It's true.

>I discovered that if the printer colour management is on, colour management 
>in Photoshop should be off.

Man, I remember when I discovered that. I found it amazing that I hadn't
read anywhere that "if the printer colour management is on, colour
management in Photoshop should be off". That is, stated as clearly and
concisely as you just did.

 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: Spherical K15mm 3.5 shots...

[Derby Chang]

Cotty wrote:

 masquerading as the latest in my moving house diary.

Cheap and cheerfullike me :-)






Cheers,
  Cotty


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:) that is one comfortable looking cat

D

--
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Re: ot back in the saddle again

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 2/4/2006 5:43:52 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I was in the hospital  all of last week.   Four days asleep in ICU just
waiting.
My vocal cords swelled shut last Friday night.  It's an old children's
disease and it looks like I'm the old recorded person to have it. (Just
turned 50 on 1/6).  A wonderful wife to care for me and a God who is
Faithful.

Maybe the whole story for individuals who ask.  I won't fill the list with
too much personal stuff.  It's just after 8:00 and I'm much too bored
(read: ADD) to lie in bed.

Collin




Tonsillitis?

Glad you're on the mend.

Marnie 

Re: Spherical K15mm 3.5 shots...

[David Mann]

On Feb 5, 2006, at 12:45 PM, Cotty wrote:


 masquerading as the latest in my moving house diary.

Cheap and cheerfullike me :-)




Not a particularly graceful kitty picture :)

I'm still shuffling stuff around since I moved over a year ago.

- Dave

http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/

Re: OT: Tokina RMC 17/3.5

[David Mann]

I kept mine after I bought a Pentax 15mm.  It's much better for  
travelling as it's smaller, lighter and cheaper to replace if  
necessary.  It can also accept filters which some may consider a bonus.


For the money I think it's a great performer.  Distortion is similar  
to that of the Pentax lens.  I seem to remember that the sharpness  
isn't exactly bad either, but contrast/flare is a different story.


- Dave

On Feb 5, 2006, at 11:21 AM, Toine Kuiper wrote:


I have used this lens for many years. I have always enjoyed it
(stopped down to f8 or f11) on the MX. It's almost as good as the
16-45 on the istD.


On 2/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I picked up this lens in the Fall.  With film it's really pretty  
mediocre.

But with the DS it's a really outstanding performer.  Surprizing.
They show up as e-fodder for about $100 on occasion.
Recommended.

Collin


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February 2006 Comments

[Daniel J. Matyola]

A quick review of my reactions to the PUG entries for February:

" Paris, from the Ground up " by  Jan van Wijk:: Wonderful!  Myfavorite of this 
month's gallery.  A very effective shot, and it trulyfits the theme for the 
month.  I was in Paris at about the same time,and tried to take a similar shot, 
but unbalanced, and in the day time,featuring the iron work.  Jan's shot is 
much more effective.
" Sundial shell " by  Keith McGuinness: Great Lighting and 
effectiveimplementation of the theme.  One of my favorites of this month.
" Undone " by  Dag Thrane: Another one of my favorites.  I love thecolor, and I 
love the composition, but the needle really makes this amemorable photograph.
" Geometrical Elements " by  BigButt: I like the colors and thecomposition, but 
I find the out-of-focus wall on the left distracting.
" Erasmus Bridge " by  Henk Terhell: A lot of nice geometric patterns,but a bit 
busy.  I might consider cropping off the bottom of thepicture.
" Calatrava " by  Lucas Rijnders: Nice composition.  I know you can'tcontrol 
the weather, but it might look better with a blue sky or moreinteresting clouds.
" In the Air " by  Adelheid v. Kirschten: Interesting effect with thepropeller. 
 It would be nicer if you could see the bottom part of thepropeller as well.  I 
might crop off the triangular piece on the rightedge.
" Freiburg Sidewalk " by  Rick Womer: Good interpretation of the"geometrical" 
theme, without being too literal about it.  At first, Ifound the motion-blurred 
leg distracting, but the more I look at it,the more I think it really makes the 
photo special.
" Reflections and Refractions " by  Thomas Cakalic: Another one of myfavorites. 
 Very clever, and very fitting to the theme.  Great colors,great concept, great 
implementation.
" Lines and Circles " by  Thawatchai Kongsaktragool: Simple,effective, and good 
use of DOF.
" Silver Stars " by  Ray Allen: Interesting use of light and shade. Good 
representation of the theme of the month.
" Geometrical Landscape " by  Harald Rust: One of my favorites. Creative 
interpretation of the theme.  This shot transmits a realfeeling for the peace 
and beauty of this place.
" Fallen Posts " by  David J Brooks: Nice use of the logs to lead theeye to the 
road.
" ZZ Top " by  Janne Käld: Another one of my favorites.  Strongportrayal of the 
texture of the wood.   Very interesting patterns.
" Arrow <- " by  Patrick Rendulic: I like the mixture of shapes andthe "feel" 
of the rust on the pole.
" Stairway to Heaven " by  Robert Gonzalez: Very representative of thetheme.  
Good contrast between light and dark areas.
" Playing Around " by  Matja  Osojnik: Nice colors and shapes.  Thehidden faces 
of the children add a touch of mystery.
" Bonnie and Sprite " by  Joseph Tainter: Interesting juxtapositionbetween the 
old western scene and the more modern sports car.
" Obligatory Cat Shot " by  Steve Sharpe: I'm a dog person, not a catperson, 
but  I  like the light in the eyes.
" No Title " by  luben karavelov: I like the tight crop and theemotion in the 
subject.

Re: PESO PAW Another soft shot

[Paul Stenquist]

Excellent shot. Well composed, well executed.
Paul
On Feb 3, 2006, at 11:09 AM, Tom C wrote:


Very nice Gonz.  Frameable and displayable AS-IS in my opinion.

Tom C.







From: Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: PESO PAW Another soft shot
Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 09:14:59 -0600

My youngest, she loves drama and this was her chance to act out a 
little in front of the camera.  I didnt make it entirely Black and 
White. Trying to get an "old" portrait look.  Do I need to desaturate 
more?


http://www.g0nz.com/4imgs/data/media/1/anframe.jpg

Comments, critiques, etc. welcome.

Thanks.

rg

--
Someone handed me a picture and said, "This is a picture of me when I 
was younger." Every picture of you is when you were younger. 
"...Here's a picture of me when I'm older." Where'd you get that 
camera man?

- Mitch Hedberg

Re: GFM Nature Photography Weekend registration is open

[Paul Stenquist]

Well then, I'll have to try to make it two in a row.
Paul
On Feb 3, 2006, at 1:50 PM, Cotty wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I bought the bullet, #12. My wife is going to shoot me :-). What the

hell, you only live once. Gotta find a tent now.

Hopefully you'll enjoy it enough to return next year. I'm planning on
being there.


Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: GFM Nature Photography Weekend registration is open

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 2/4/2006 7:53:28 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>Well then, I'll have to try to make it two in a row.
>Paul
On Feb 3, 2006, at 1:50 PM, Cotty wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> I bought the bullet, #12. My wife is going to shoot me :-). What the
> hell, you only live once. Gotta find a tent now.
>
> Hopefully you'll enjoy it enough to return next year. I'm planning on
> being there.
>
>
> Cheers,
>   Cotty
=
I may make it in 2007 also. We shall see.

Marnie aka Doe 

Re: PESO PAW Another soft shot

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 2/3/2006 7:16:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My youngest, she loves drama and this was her chance to act out a little 
in front of the camera.  I didnt make it entirely Black and White. 
Trying to get an "old" portrait look.  Do I need to desaturate more?

http://www.g0nz.com/4imgs/data/media/1/anframe.jpg

Comments, critiques, etc. welcome.

Thanks.

rg
===
Nice. Very. Bet she likes it a lot.

Marnie aka Doe 

Re: ot back in the saddle again

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Epiglottitis with Laryngitis
and I got Endotracheal intubation as the treatment
One long week.


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Re: ot back in the saddle again

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 2/4/2006 9:09:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Epiglottitis with Laryngitis
and I got Endotracheal intubation as the treatment
One long week.
=
Uck, uck, uck, uck!!!

Sounds like. Painful too, I bet.

Marnie aka Doe 

Re: OT GESO: Horizon panos

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 2/3/2006 2:10:55 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
An OT gallery. Nothing special, I'm just enjoying the freedom of 
no-focus, guesstimate-exposure panos. In fact, I think using the Horizon 
is quite a good exercise in learning to look, instead of fiddling with gear.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/index6/06_02_horizon/index.htm
=
Interesting. Never heard of this camera before.

BTW, I really like the last one. Nice lines.

Marnie aka Doe :-)

Re: Spherical K15mm 3.5 shots...

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 2/4/2006 6:51:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Cotty wrote:
>  masquerading as the latest in my moving house diary.
>
> Cheap and cheerfullike me :-)
>
> 
>
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>   Cotty
>
>
> ___/\__
> ||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
> ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
> _
>
>
>
>   

:) that is one comfortable looking cat

D
===
What he said. Nice sprawl on the cat. 

Interesting house. We don't have those in California. :-)

Marnie aka Doe 

Re: GFM Nature Photography Weekend registration is open

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist"

Subject: Re: GFM Nature Photography Weekend registration is open



Well then, I'll have to try to make it two in a row.


For me, the best part of GFM was meeting people for real that I had been 
getting to know on list.
I had met Tom Cakalic and his family, and had a wonderful time, prior to 
that, I had not met in person, another PDML'r.


I think a North American PDML get together would be cool.
I suggest that in September 2008, we all decend upon Kodachrome Basin State 
Park and just hang out for a few days.


William Robb 

question about chromes

[Ann Sanfedele]

HI gang,
I've hardly been here - though didn't actually unsub -
but it looks like I might have a job where I will need to
shoot chromes
instead of digital - dragging out the ole LX --

But it has been a few years since I shot slides and I'd like
some opinions
on Elitechrome for photoing artwork...  

I'm not sure where i'll be shooting - inside or out, I have
filters a bunch
for adjusting to sundry inside lighting...

Pretty sure I have the gig, going to see the work on
Tuesday... 

anyone have a favorite that is still being made for this
kind of stuff?

ann

Re: ot back in the saddle again

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Extremely uncomfortable.  I didn't realize going in that they'd put me out 
on Friday and work on me Wed And I had a main line on top of it all.
That came out Fri. afternoon before going home.  That's an interface 
directly into the heart through a vein in one's right top shoulder.
So it was critical as well.

Do we have a neurologist in the group?  I'd really like to interact on
the character of my induced halucinations.  (Will get a list of the
meds I was one.)

Our prayer is that the pain we were in wouldn't be "wasted".
C S Lewis gives a great treatment of the "problem of pain" in
his works.  (He wrote so much more than Narnia stuff.)
"Shadowlands" with Anthony Hopkins covers this portion of his life.

One of the most encourging of Christian doctrines is the principle
of the "body" with all of the positive implications your can ever
imagine.  To this point I've been able to identify around 2,000
persons who offerred prayers and assistance to us, locally or remotely,
in Ohio, Illinois, Wisconsin, and Oklahoma.  Probably more.
(Assorted evangelicals of the Mennonite, Baptist, and Ev. Free groups.)




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Re: Spherical K15mm 3.5 shots...

[David Savage]

What makes a house a home? Mess, clutter IMHO. House's that are
"perfect" don't feel comfortable, homey or lived in at all.

This is just my thought after reading your latest update, and in no
way do I mean to say that your new home looks untidy. Honestly :-).

Yer cat looks like it's...ahem... enjoying itself 

Dave



On 2/5/06, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  masquerading as the latest in my moving house diary.
>
> Cheap and cheerfullike me :-)
>
> 
>
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>   Cotty
>
>
> ___/\__
> ||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
> ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
> _
>
>
>

Re: Cool things I learned today.

[David Savage]

On 2/5/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Man, I remember when I discovered that. I found it amazing that I hadn't
> read anywhere that "if the printer colour management is on, colour
> management in Photoshop should be off". That is, stated as clearly and
> concisely as you just did.
>

I can't think of how many ink cartridges & packets of paper I went
through before it clicked.

Dave

Re: I'm an idiot

[Gautam Sarup]

Mike Wilson:
>AFAIR, the Z1-p does not use IR for film measurement.

and

Dave Brooks:
> My GFM roll of HIE was shot using my PZ-1, 28-105 and #25 Red..

So there is hope for me yet.  Thanks.  I'll probably process that roll
next week.

Cheers,
Gautam

Re: ot back in the saddle again

[Pat Kong]

--- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> And I had a main line on top of it all.
> That came out Fri. afternoon before going home.  That's an interface 
> directly into the heart through a vein in one's right top shoulder.
> So it was critical as well.

Yes, when a person is intubated and a machine is breathing for him, the "main
line" is placed into an artery to monitor oxygen status and heart function. 
Makes sure heart & lungs are functioning properly.

> 
> Do we have a neurologist in the group?  I'd really like to interact on
> the character of my induced halucinations.  (Will get a list of the
> meds I was one.)

I'm a pharmacist, not a neurologist, but I'm still interested in your
medication induced hallucinations.  Feel free to write off list if appropriate.

Pat in SF

Re: ot back in the saddle again

[Gautam Sarup]

On 2/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Epiglottitis with Laryngitis

Not one my favourites.  Glad you're better.

Cheers,
Gautam

Re: From Cottyland

[Cotty]

On 4/2/06, keith_w, discombobulated, unleashed:

>You in yet?

I like being in, but I'm mostly out.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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OT: 645 - Pentax compeditive

[Jens Bladt]

I have been thinking of getting MF 645 equipment that will allow the use of
lenses for Pentacon Six/Exakta 66/Kiev 60 through P6-adapter.
I have found that Pentax is quite competitive economically,
A Mamiya 645 1000s with AE prism is about the same price as a Pentax 645 =
350 USD in used condition.
The Pentax 645 will then have (what the Mamiya doesn't):
Winder, grip, exchangeable film cassettes, TTL-Flash option, optional
Programed AE.
The Mamiya 645 will have (what the Pentax doesn't):
Exchangeable viewfinder.

The Mamiya is a durable all steel design and very versatile (customizeable)
The Pentax is a modern camera concept.

I know this isn't quite fair, because the Mamiya 645 1000s is an older
camera concept. I perhpas should have used the Mamiya 645 Super version. But
in my case (MF)is seems a feasible comparison. I thought this was quite
interesting - at least for MF and film users :-)


Regards
Jens


Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

Re: Spherical K15mm 3.5 shots...

[Cotty]

On 5/2/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:

>This is just my thought after reading your latest update, and in no
>way do I mean to say that your new home looks untidy. Honestly :-).

No worries Dave. I expect the clutter to reach a peak in 2 weeks, then
it will slowly subside. About the most organised part of the joint is
the kitty litter tray. We're in a week and it's time to let the cats out
and about. Cat flap being installed this afternoon. Then they can sprawl
outside :-)




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Spherical K15mm 3.5 shots...

[Cotty]

On 5/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:

>Nice sprawl on the cat. 

Mark!




Cheers,
  Cotty


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RE: Spherical K15mm 3.5 shots...

[Trevor Bailey]

G'day Cotty.
Mate, you're a bloody game bloke showing the world that you leave the
dunny seat up.
Most sheilas would cut off the supply of bedroom Olympics for doing that
down here.
Hooroo.
Regards, Trevor.
Grafton
Australia 

-Original Message-
From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, 5 February 2006 10:46 AM
To: pentax list
Subject: Spherical K15mm 3.5 shots...


 masquerading as the latest in my moving house diary.

Cheap and cheerfullike me :-)






Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: question about chromes

[Gautam Sarup]

Ann,

My favourite after trying out a few is Kodachrome 64.
Takes about 2 weeks for processing though.

Cheers,
Gautam

On 2/4/06, Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> HI gang,
> I've hardly been here - though didn't actually unsub -
> but it looks like I might have a job where I will need to
> shoot chromes
> instead of digital - dragging out the ole LX --
>
> But it has been a few years since I shot slides and I'd like
> some opinions
> on Elitechrome for photoing artwork...
>
> I'm not sure where i'll be shooting - inside or out, I have
> filters a bunch
> for adjusting to sundry inside lighting...
>
> Pretty sure I have the gig, going to see the work on
> Tuesday...
>
> anyone have a favorite that is still being made for this
> kind of stuff?
>
> ann
>
>