An interesting way to share full res images

[Juan Buhler]

I think this is a very neat way to show full res images on a list like
this, giving people the chance to see full detail but making it
relatively hard to download the full file:

http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=nBRt2KWIsZ
(javascript required)

The photo is one known by some of you--Seattle, 2005 - istD, FA35/2

Go to http://gmapuploader.com if you want to try it yourself.

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Re: Studio lighting

[Bruce Dayton]

Hello Scott,

The room does seem a little challenging.  One big issue is the height
of the ceiling.  My umbrellas have a removable back that allows them
to either bounce or shoot through.  When the ceilings are high I can
use them for bouncing the light, but if the ceilings are lower, then
shooting through saves me several feet.  So that is one suggestion -
get shoot through umbrellas.  Basically you need to have the light
high enough for the shadows to fall behind your subject.

As to backdrop, Bill Robb has talked a few times about more of a
muslin like drop that you can make yourself - maybe he'll chime in.
In that size of width, some natural folds to the cloth might look less
antiseptic than seamless and might be easier to deal with.

For lights, I use the Alien Bees.  They are priced very competitively
and have features to match the high end systems.  My understanding is
that they are lighter duty, so wouldn't be a good choice for a studio
that is shooting day in and day out.  But for my usage, which is much
more hit and miss, they are excellent.  It is certainly worth checking
them out.

Anyway, some starting advice - hope it helps.

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Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 9:19:57 PM, you wrote:

SL> Howdy, gang!  The wife and I have been talking about doing a little
SL> studio portraiture and were wondering if we could solicit a few opinions
SL> from the sanitari..PDML.

SL> We need to be able to set it up and take it down quickly.  We also need
SL> to be able to store it as compactly as possible.  Our initial thoughts
SL> were to start simple - a 53" roll of white seamless, stands for the
SL> roll, and a couple lights with either umbrellas or soft boxes.  A single
SL> light and a reflector may suit our needs, too.  I'd rather not deal with
SL> the heat from tungsten lights, so it's either fluorescent continuous
SL> lighting or monoblocks.  Current plans are to photograph the kids a lot,
SL> guests when they'll allow it, and a few "models" for some projects I'm
SL> considering.  One or two people in the frame should be typical.

SL> As far as environment goes, we have 9 foot ceilings and enough space to
SL> move the camera up to about 20 feet from the sitter.  Our house is
SL> almost a shotgun style, so width of the backdrop is an issue. Anything
SL> wider than 6' would be problematic unless I moved a lot of furniture
SL> around.  Windows face northeast and northwest

SL> Anyone care to offer an opinion about brands, continuous vs. strobe,
SL> watt seconds, etc?

SL> Thanks!

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Re: New!

[Brian Walters]

Hi Alex

Welcome.

Aperture simulator??  Try this, but open the page quietly


http://photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00EaFW


Cheers

Brian

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Quoting AlexG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hi guys,
> 
> I'm new to the list. Just got my first ever DSLR last summer, but
> have
> only shot 2000 pics so far, so i stink.
> 
> It is an *ist DL with 18-55 kit lens, DA 50-200 and M42 50/1.4,
> the
> latter of which is sitting on ebay, in the hopes of subsidizing an
> upgrade.
> 
> Looking forward to participating in some discussions and sharing
> pics. and learning.
> 
> Special thanks to Rick Womer, whom I randomly emailed (name was on
> the
> most recent post at the time) and who helped me figure out why none
> of
> the posts were going through.
> 
> Been reading through the archives, researching... What is an
> aperture
> simulator, anyway?
> 




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Re: Oh yeah...

[Brian Walters]

I've added the RSS feed to my bookmarks - so, when there is something there I 
should hear about it   :-)>


Cheers

Brian

++
Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia




Quoting Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> http://www.robertstech.com/blog/
> 
> Not that there's anything there yet.
> 
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Re: PESO - Distortion

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 4/18/2007 4:41:21 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Page not  found.

William Robb

==
Ditto.

Marnie aka Doe :-(   




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Re: New!

[Brendan MacRae]

Hi Alex.

Welcome.

Aperture simulators, huh? Are you trying to pick a
fight?

You may need to prove to some here that you're not
actually a spy working for Hoya ;-]

It's a long story...but welcome!

-Brendan


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> Hi guys,
> 
> I'm new to the list. Just got my first ever DSLR
> last summer, but have
> only shot 2000 pics so far, so i stink.
> 
> It is an *ist DL with 18-55 kit lens, DA 50-200 and
> M42 50/1.4, the
> latter of which is sitting on ebay, in the hopes of
> subsidizing an
> upgrade.
> 
> Looking forward to participating in some discussions
> and sharing
> pics. and learning.
> 
> Special thanks to Rick Womer, whom I randomly
> emailed (name was on the
> most recent post at the time) and who helped me
> figure out why none of
> the posts were going through.
> 
> Been reading through the archives, researching...
> What is an aperture
> simulator, anyway?
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Re: New!

[Stephen Moore]

AlexG wrote:

> Been reading through the archives, researching... What is an aperture
> simulator, anyway?

YAAAHH! RUN AWAY!

Cheers,
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Re: Studio lighting

[Paul Sorenson]

I have three AlienBees and am pretty happy with them.  They're fairly 
inexpensive, well made.  I use them w/umbrellas, sometimes shoot-through 
and sometimes reflecting.  Here's their URL...

http://www.alienbees.com/

-P



Scott Loveless wrote:
> Howdy, gang!  The wife and I have been talking about doing a little 
> studio portraiture and were wondering if we could solicit a few opinions 
> from the sanitari..PDML.
> 
> We need to be able to set it up and take it down quickly.  We also need 
> to be able to store it as compactly as possible.  Our initial thoughts 
> were to start simple - a 53" roll of white seamless, stands for the 
> roll, and a couple lights with either umbrellas or soft boxes.  A single 
> light and a reflector may suit our needs, too.  I'd rather not deal with 
> the heat from tungsten lights, so it's either fluorescent continuous 
> lighting or monoblocks.  Current plans are to photograph the kids a lot, 
> guests when they'll allow it, and a few "models" for some projects I'm 
> considering.  One or two people in the frame should be typical.
> 
> As far as environment goes, we have 9 foot ceilings and enough space to 
> move the camera up to about 20 feet from the sitter.  Our house is 
> almost a shotgun style, so width of the backdrop is an issue.  Anything 
> wider than 6' would be problematic unless I moved a lot of furniture 
> around.  Windows face northeast and northwest
> 
> Anyone care to offer an opinion about brands, continuous vs. strobe, 
> watt seconds, etc?
> 
> Thanks!
> 


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Re: a flower for Shel - GDG

[David Savage]

...and another:



My, isn't Shel a popular fellow ;-)

Cheers,

Dave

On 4/19/07, Paul Sorenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 'Nother one...
>
> http://www.studio1941.com/chicago_aug_2006/ds2_imgp0830.htm
>
> -P
>
> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> > Awww, shucks ...
> >
> > Shel
> >
> >
> >
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
> >>http://homepage.mac.com/godders/flower-for-shel.jpg

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New!

[AlexG]

Hi guys,

I'm new to the list. Just got my first ever DSLR last summer, but have
only shot 2000 pics so far, so i stink.

It is an *ist DL with 18-55 kit lens, DA 50-200 and M42 50/1.4, the
latter of which is sitting on ebay, in the hopes of subsidizing an
upgrade.

Looking forward to participating in some discussions and sharing
pics. and learning.

Special thanks to Rick Womer, whom I randomly emailed (name was on the
most recent post at the time) and who helped me figure out why none of
the posts were going through.

Been reading through the archives, researching... What is an aperture
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Re: Studio lighting

[David Savage]

I cant add anything to help with your decision, but this question
comes up quite frequently at the DPReview Lighting Technique Forum:



Cheers,

Dave


On 4/19/07, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Howdy, gang!  The wife and I have been talking about doing a little
> studio portraiture and were wondering if we could solicit a few opinions
> from the sanitari..PDML.
>
> We need to be able to set it up and take it down quickly.  We also need
> to be able to store it as compactly as possible.  Our initial thoughts
> were to start simple - a 53" roll of white seamless, stands for the
> roll, and a couple lights with either umbrellas or soft boxes.  A single
> light and a reflector may suit our needs, too.  I'd rather not deal with
> the heat from tungsten lights, so it's either fluorescent continuous
> lighting or monoblocks.  Current plans are to photograph the kids a lot,
> guests when they'll allow it, and a few "models" for some projects I'm
> considering.  One or two people in the frame should be typical.
>
> As far as environment goes, we have 9 foot ceilings and enough space to
> move the camera up to about 20 feet from the sitter.  Our house is
> almost a shotgun style, so width of the backdrop is an issue.  Anything
> wider than 6' would be problematic unless I moved a lot of furniture
> around.  Windows face northeast and northwest
>
> Anyone care to offer an opinion about brands, continuous vs. strobe,
> watt seconds, etc?

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Re: PDML Members' web pages

[Russell Kerstetter]

a little late..

http://www.avocadohead.com/

Russ

On 4/18/07, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Quick-n-dirty page:
>
> http://www.robertstech.com/pdml.htm
>
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Re: Blogging soon...

[David Savage]

Ever since hearing the latest Red Hot Chill Peppers album, every time 
someone uses the word blog, or I come across one, this lyric flits through 
my head:

Everyone has so much to say
They talk talk talk their lives away
Don't even hesitate

Dunno' why.

Cheers,

Dave


At 12:05 PM 19/04/2007, Doug Brewer wrote:

>On Apr 18, 2007, at 10:41 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>
> > I just installed WordPress on my web server. Not too difficult,
> > really.
> > Had to create a new SQL database, upload a bunch of files (all it one
> > fell swoop, so it was utterly simple) and cut-and-paste 3 or 4
> > site-specific details into one file. Shoulda done this long ago.
> >
> > I'm going to customize the page appearance before posting anything,
> > but
> > that won't take too long (since I'm now a university professor who
> > teaches web design, you know).
> >
> > The blog is tentatively titled "Errata" because... well, mainly
> > because
> > I've had two beers on an empty stomach. Perhaps I'll change it later.
>
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Re: a flower for Shel - GDG

[Paul Sorenson]

'Nother one...

http://www.studio1941.com/chicago_aug_2006/ds2_imgp0830.htm

-P

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> Awww, shucks ... 
> 
> Shel
> 
> 
> 
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi 
> 
>> Something about people shooting more flowers now with digital than  
>> they did with film?
>>
>> I dunno. Flowers are easy game... and it costs nothing to shoot a  
>> bunch of them ...
>>
>>http://homepage.mac.com/godders/flower-for-shel.jpg
> 
> 
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Studio lighting

[Scott Loveless]

Howdy, gang!  The wife and I have been talking about doing a little 
studio portraiture and were wondering if we could solicit a few opinions 
from the sanitari..PDML.

We need to be able to set it up and take it down quickly.  We also need 
to be able to store it as compactly as possible.  Our initial thoughts 
were to start simple - a 53" roll of white seamless, stands for the 
roll, and a couple lights with either umbrellas or soft boxes.  A single 
light and a reflector may suit our needs, too.  I'd rather not deal with 
the heat from tungsten lights, so it's either fluorescent continuous 
lighting or monoblocks.  Current plans are to photograph the kids a lot, 
guests when they'll allow it, and a few "models" for some projects I'm 
considering.  One or two people in the frame should be typical.

As far as environment goes, we have 9 foot ceilings and enough space to 
move the camera up to about 20 feet from the sitter.  Our house is 
almost a shotgun style, so width of the backdrop is an issue.  Anything 
wider than 6' would be problematic unless I moved a lot of furniture 
around.  Windows face northeast and northwest

Anyone care to offer an opinion about brands, continuous vs. strobe, 
watt seconds, etc?

Thanks!

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Re: PAW: The Minarets Revisited

[Russell Kerstetter]

beautiful, no other comments available at this time :)

Russ

On 4/18/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This may have appeared in the PUG some years ago. This morning I
> revisited the scan and reworked it quite a bit. It's a shot of the
> Minaret mountain range that I took from the 13,000-foot summit of
> California's Mammoth Mountain at sunset, just after the ball dropped
> below the mountains. Shot with the LX and the SMC-Pentax-M 35/2.
>
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5865319&size=lg
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RE: a flower for Shel - GDG

[Shel Belinkoff]

Awww, shucks ... 

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi 

> Something about people shooting more flowers now with digital than  
> they did with film?
>
> I dunno. Flowers are easy game... and it costs nothing to shoot a  
> bunch of them ...
>
>http://homepage.mac.com/godders/flower-for-shel.jpg



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Re: Blogging soon...

[Doug Brewer]

On Apr 18, 2007, at 10:41 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> I just installed WordPress on my web server. Not too difficult,  
> really.
> Had to create a new SQL database, upload a bunch of files (all it one
> fell swoop, so it was utterly simple) and cut-and-paste 3 or 4
> site-specific details into one file. Shoulda done this long ago.
>
> I'm going to customize the page appearance before posting anything,  
> but
> that won't take too long (since I'm now a university professor who
> teaches web design, you know).
>
> The blog is tentatively titled "Errata" because... well, mainly  
> because
> I've had two beers on an empty stomach. Perhaps I'll change it later.

'bout time, you slacker.

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Re: PESO - Distortion

[Shel Belinkoff]

OK, all my pages are now reasonably secure.  The next step, I think, is to
link the pics on the separate pages to one page, and that'll integrate all
the pics

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Paul Sorenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Date: 4/18/2007 7:28:42 PM
> Subject: Re: PESO - Distortion
>
> You're welcome...I have an Earthlink account similar to yours, so I knew 
> how to show the folder contents, although without the password, of 
> course, everything remains read-only.  Your solution was a good 
> one...you might want to do it with your other account, too.  ;>}
>
> -P
>
> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> > Yes, I figured how Sorenson did it, and decided that I didn't want
people
> > to have free access to my web pages.  This'll at least slow such things
> > down a bit.  I suppose I've been too lax with even the most rudimentary
> > security and privacy measures.  No more ... Thanks, Paul.
> > 
> > Shel
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: Digital Image Studio 
> > 
> >>  Shel Belinkoff  wrote:
> >>> Hmmm ... how could that have happened?  I wonder if while mucking
> > around I
> >>> may have inadvertently changed something.  BTW, how'd you discover
that?
> >> I used the following URL which allowed a free browsing of the web site
> >> directories however now there is appears to be a rudimentary index
> >> page in place so browsing is no longer possible.
> >>
> >> http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: Film scanner dillemma

[Mark Cassino]

Doug Franklin wrote:
> I have had a CanoScan FS4000US for several years.  It does great scans
> at 1k, 2k, and 4k ppi.  It also has the infrared "spot removal" system,
> which Canon calls FARE.  It scans strips of up to six 35mm frames or
> slides.  The problem is that it's slow.  I mean dead dog slow.  At 4k
> ppi with FARE enabled, scanning an entire "rack" of six takes a /looong/
> time.  It's been a while since I scanned any film, but IIRC it was like
> 15 minutes or more for six scans.  Might've been longer.

I still have my FS4000 setup and it times out at 2:15 per scan - and 
that's using the SCSI connector, not the USB-1. So - yep, it's slow...

- MCC

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Re: Blogging soon...

[Mark Cassino]

Congrats, Mark - I started blogging about a year ago using B2Evolution 
on my site. Through the syndication and higher keyword density it makes 
it a lot easier for folks to find your site.

And the spam is fascinating...

- MCC

Mark Roberts wrote:
> I just installed WordPress on my web server. Not too difficult, really. 
> Had to create a new SQL database, upload a bunch of files (all it one 
> fell swoop, so it was utterly simple) and cut-and-paste 3 or 4 
> site-specific details into one file. Shoulda done this long ago.
> 
> I'm going to customize the page appearance before posting anything, but 
> that won't take too long (since I'm now a university professor who 
> teaches web design, you know).
> 
> The blog is tentatively titled "Errata" because... well, mainly because 
> I've had two beers on an empty stomach. Perhaps I'll change it later.
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Re: GESO 2007 - flower show - GDG

[Russell Kerstetter]

very nice!  I really like the bokeh on that lens, very colorful too.

russ

On 4/18/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok, so I'm having fun with flowers today... ;-)
>
> Went for a two hour walk at lunch time, carried the camera and both
> the 21 and 43 mm lenses. My neighbor's garden is bursting with
> flowers along my favorite fence, so I snapped a few.
>
>http://www.gdgphoto.com/flowershow/
>
> All of these were taken with the 43mm lens. No editing other than a
> little cropping, really, other than the bookends.
>
> enjoy!
> Godfrey
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Re: PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail

[Russell Kerstetter]

nice gritty shot Peter.

russ

On 4/17/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/pirellibuildingdetail.html
>
> Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax 43mm f1.9 Limited
>
> Notes: B&W conversion in using B&W plus yellow filter applied.
>
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Re: Paw LV-3

[Kenneth Waller]

One of the reasons I prefer Valley of Fire!

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Paw LV-3


> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5867097
>
> Tried a few,from the hip,street shots in Vegas. This is one i like.
>
> They have a stream of people trying to hand out hooker and stripper cards.
>
> K10D 16-45 SR from the hip.
>
> I tried a B&W, looks good
>
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Re: PESO - Distortion

[Kenneth Waller]

Still get page not found.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Sorenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Re: PESO - Distortion


> Change the page name to *distort.html* and it'll work.
>
> -P
>
> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> I'll check on it on my next pass and see if there's some problem.  It 
>> seems
>> to have come up for others - maybe there's something that corrupted the
>> page somehow. Of course, I'm always surprised that anything to do with
>> computers works 
>>
>> Shel
>>
>>
>>
>>> [Original Message]
>>> From: P. J. Alling
>>
>>> I can't seem to load the page, which is interesting since I seem to be
>>> able to load my own earthlink pages.
>>>
>>> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/distortion.html


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Re: Major enablement

[Kenneth Waller]

Nice catch Bill, although it would benefit from some better light.

Looks like metro Detroit is becoming the Pentax long lens capital!.


Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Sawyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Major enablement


> Jim,
>
> I think that you will like the lens a lot, I've had mine for three years 
> or
> so. The lighter weight than the f4 version is a plus to me, as I
> occasionally hike a ways with it in a backpack to get where I want to use
> it. I carry it in a large photo backpack.  The poor positioning of the
> tripod mount is a problem, but not seriously so. I find it quite sharp,
> though it's not a good lens for moving subjects, due largely to the mount
> position, at least I don't think so. Mr. Robb has some experience with 
> it's
> use on a gimbaled head. Here's a shot taken at Kensington Metropark (I'm 
> in
> Livonia, BTW) with this lens, the 1.4x teleconverter with an ist D.
>
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5016800
>
> Congratulations, I know you'll like it, and for what it's worth, it sounds
> to me like you got a good price if the pictures do it justice.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Jim
> King
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 12:50 AM
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: Major enablement
>
> After several years of searching I finally found and won an eBay auction
> (150111393342) for a Pentax A*600/5.6 lens in pristine condition.  I 
> wanted
> it for my lens collection which now includes all of the A-series glass
> except the A*1200/8, which I've never seen for sale.  It should be great 
> for
> long shots over Lake Erie from the front porch of our summer cottage.  It
> will be interesting to see how the SR of the K10D works with it - at a
> little over 3 Kg it might be marginally hand-holdable.  I suspect that it
> will spend more time on my HD tripod, however.
>
> This one was really hard to find - the only other time I saw one up for
> auction on eBay, I accidentally slept through the close of the auction and
> never got my bid in!  This one cost a bit more than the earlier one but
> seems to be in better condition (fingers crossed).
>
> There is also an FA*600/4 up on eBay currently. but the price just makes 
> my
> head spin!
>
> Regards, Jim


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Re: PESO - Distortion

[Kenneth Waller]

>I can't seem to load the page, which is interesting since I seem to be
> able to load my own earthlink pages.

Ditto here!

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Re: PESO - Distortion


>I can't seem to load the page, which is interesting since I seem to be
> able to load my own earthlink pages.
>
> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/distortion.html
>>
>> So, I'm walkin' along and I see this guy making faces at his reflection 
>> in
>> a store window.  I strike up a conversation and then get to take a couple
>> of snaps.  I decided to enhance his silly face by using the 85mm lens 
>> close
>> up and shooting from a low angle.  Didn't care much about detail and
>> precise focus as it was something a little more abstract I was looking 
>> for.
>> So, there you have it ...
>>
>>
>> Shel


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Re: Major enablement

[Kenneth Waller]

>   It should be great for long shots over Lake Erie from the
>> front porch of our summer cottage.

Beats the hell out of trekking across the countryside with one, unless you 
got a Sherpa.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Major enablement


> On 4/18/07, Jim King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   It should be great for long shots over Lake Erie from the
>> front porch of our summer cottage.
>
> Sounds to me like yer spying...
>
> ;-)
>
> Seriously, that's one serious lens - congrats on your acquisition.
>
> cheers,
> frank


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Re: OT: MacBook

[Stan Halpin]

The previous version of Parallels was a bit limited, specifically  
with respect to its handling of the USB ports. I have been told (by  
the company ads and by a friend who has tried it) that the recently  
released version is much improved. (Though, of course, you have all  
of the issues of a Windows machine, such as continual virus paranoia,  
frequent system patches, etc.) You do need a properly licensed  
version of XP or Vista or whatever your preferred flavor is. You  
would also want to be sure that the MacBook had plenty of hard disk  
space, or plan on using a fast external - the more space you allocate  
to the Windows partition, the happier Parallels and Windows will be.  
The price here is $60-80, often included for "free" if you buy a Mac  
from one of the mail order outfits (MacConnection, etc.) One slick  
thing about Parallels is that the Mac OS and Windows can  
simultaneously use the same internet connection. I could be browsing/ 
googling with Safari on the Mac while the Windows window, running  
Exchange, was downloading my mail. At work I had to get a special  
"patch" put into the organization's firewall to allow this, but at  
home on my own net it was no problem. I have found another solution/ 
work-around to allow me to get to my mail and otherwise use the  
Windows-exclusive stuff I need to use - I occasionally log in to  
others' workstations - so I haven't taken the time to upgrade to the  
new Parallels. If the pain of my workaround gets larger than the  
expected pain of doing an upgrade/reconfiguration of the network/ 
reinstall of Windows, then I'll go back to Parallels.

stan

On Apr 18, 2007, at 4:22 PM, Bob W wrote:

> The children of one of my friends want a laptop, and more particularly
> they want a MacBook. My friend knows nothing about computers, but she
> needs to be able to run Windows software for a course she'll be taking
> later this year.
>
> What extras are required to be able to run Windows software on a Mac,
> and what is the performance of Windows software like when run this
> way?
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
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Have I got a deal for you... maybe...

[Digital Image Studio]

Hi Guys,

If I can garner sufficient interest may have the opportunity to pick
up some Sigma (yes I did say Sigma!) 28-70mm F2.8 DF EX Aspherical
lenses in Pentax mount. These would be excess new stock, unopened in
box including bayonet hood and soft case.

If I can get nine people interested (plus myself) I should be able to
deliver them to the US including shipping (AusPost to USPS, Air, no
tracking) and insurance for US$240 a piece (I will only be covering
costs).

I'm sure it's not the perfect lens and I know that the new zooms are
just around the corner but they're constant f2.8, cheap and will work
with your Pentax cameras, film and digital.

Here is a link to a pop-photo review:
http://www.popphoto.com/assets/download/311200313351.pdf

If anyone is interested please email me (privately preferably).

Cheers,

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GESO 2007 - flower show - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Ok, so I'm having fun with flowers today... ;-)

Went for a two hour walk at lunch time, carried the camera and both  
the 21 and 43 mm lenses. My neighbor's garden is bursting with  
flowers along my favorite fence, so I snapped a few.

   http://www.gdgphoto.com/flowershow/

All of these were taken with the 43mm lens. No editing other than a  
little cropping, really, other than the bookends.

enjoy!
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Oh yeah...

[Mark Roberts]

http://www.robertstech.com/blog/

Not that there's anything there yet.


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Re: PDML Members' web pages

[Mike Hamilton]

http://www.michaelhamilton.ca

I'd like to be added as well, Mark!  Thanks.


Cheers,

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Blogging soon...

[Mark Roberts]

I just installed WordPress on my web server. Not too difficult, really. 
Had to create a new SQL database, upload a bunch of files (all it one 
fell swoop, so it was utterly simple) and cut-and-paste 3 or 4 
site-specific details into one file. Shoulda done this long ago.

I'm going to customize the page appearance before posting anything, but 
that won't take too long (since I'm now a university professor who 
teaches web design, you know).

The blog is tentatively titled "Errata" because... well, mainly because 
I've had two beers on an empty stomach. Perhaps I'll change it later.


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RE: Major enablement

[Jim King]

Bill Sawyer wrote on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:04:40 -0700:

> Jim,
>
> I think that you will like the lens a lot, I've had mine for three  
> years or
> so. The lighter weight than the f4 version is a plus to me, as I
> occasionally hike a ways with it in a backpack to get where I want  
> to use
> it. I carry it in a large photo backpack.  The poor positioning of the
> tripod mount is a problem, but not seriously so. I find it quite  
> sharp,
> though it's not a good lens for moving subjects, due largely to the  
> mount
> position, at least I don't think so. Mr. Robb has some experience  
> with it's
> use on a gimbaled head. Here's a shot taken at Kensington Metropark  
> (I'm in
> Livonia, BTW) with this lens, the 1.4x teleconverter with an ist D.
>
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5016800

Great shot, Bill.  The composition works nicely for me in several  
ways - I wish I'd taken it!  I have a Gitzo 1410 tripod with a  
Manfrotto 3421 gimbal head which is sturdy enough to support my  
A*400/2.8 so it should do OK with the A*600/5.6, which only weighs  
about half as much.  Of course the A*600 is longer, and you advise  
that the tripod mount isn't optimally located, so I'll have to check  
it out.

Glad to hear that there is another PDMLer from the area in addition  
to Paul Stenquist and Ken Waller.

> Congratulations, I know you'll like it, and for what it's worth, it  
> sounds
> to me like you got a good price if the pictures do it justice.

Well, I have my fingers crossed that it's as good as it looks in  
those photos.  I've done business with Matsuiyastore before and they  
have been very good, so I'm expecting the best - we'll see...

Regards, Jim

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Re: Way OT: new toys

[ann sanfedele]

Scott Loveless wrote:

>After the ice fell three stories from the roof of our home and totaled our 
>car, we were left with some disposable cash. 
>
Would you say you fell into some money or some money fell into you?

> We decided to get something old and cheap to replace it, since it hardly 
> rolled out of the driveway after I quit working. 
>
hmm  - it will get us to GFM, yes?  For a moment there I thought you 
upgraded the car !

>First it was the K10D.  Not only did I "go digital", I bought a camera with a 
>Sony sensor.  (I know, straight to hell for me.)  Most recently I violated my 
>personal morals in several ways.  I bought a laptop.  I've told myself, and 
>quite a few others, that I would never, ever buy another Compaq, that XP was 
>the end of the Windows line for me, and that Best Buy would never get another 
>dime.  The Compaq was on sale at Best Buy.  It came with Vista.  I'm sure at 
>least one of the 666 layers is reserved for people like me.
>
The hell you say

>Anyway, just wanted to let Ann know that I'll have a decent laptop at GFM if 
>she needs it.
>
>--
>Scott Loveless
>www.twosixteen.com/
>  
>
You had me until you said VISTA  :)

Maybe I'll bring my copy of elements 5.0




>  
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Re: PESO - Distortion

[Paul Sorenson]

You're welcome...I have an Earthlink account similar to yours, so I knew 
how to show the folder contents, although without the password, of 
course, everything remains read-only.  Your solution was a good 
one...you might want to do it with your other account, too.  ;>}

-P

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> Yes, I figured how Sorenson did it, and decided that I didn't want people
> to have free access to my web pages.  This'll at least slow such things
> down a bit.  I suppose I've been too lax with even the most rudimentary
> security and privacy measures.  No more ... Thanks, Paul.
> 
> Shel
> 
> 
> 
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Digital Image Studio 
> 
>>  Shel Belinkoff  wrote:
>>> Hmmm ... how could that have happened?  I wonder if while mucking
> around I
>>> may have inadvertently changed something.  BTW, how'd you discover that?
>> I used the following URL which allowed a free browsing of the web site
>> directories however now there is appears to be a rudimentary index
>> page in place so browsing is no longer possible.
>>
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/
> 
> 
> 


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Re: PESO: not my usual thing

[ann sanfedele]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>In a message dated 4/17/2007 12:21:45 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:
>http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2607384#144586426-L-LB
>
>shot  the trees from the car window coming home from Boston in the storm -
>then  neonized in photoshop
>
>I'm in post tournament laziness
>I did come  in 7th in DIV B - just out of the hard cash - but respectable 
>considering I  never
>study anymore.
>
>Great day on Friday the 13th roaming Boston -- a  few shots are in the misc
>section of my smugmug site along with this neon  thingy
>ann
>
>==
>Ooooh, h, I really, really like that,  ann. Very well done!
>
>Marnie aka Doe :-)  
>  
>
Thanks, Marnie!
I'll have to post the original just to prove it was boring :)
all I did was hit the neon button and then darken the branches a bit.
not photography but ws fun to tdo

ann



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Re: PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail

[ann sanfedele]

Isn't it the kind of rock?
looks like grano-diorite to me

ann


Maris V. Lidaka Sr. wrote:

>As per Rob Studdert's comment, the surface texture - I see distinct black 
>spots, rather than the customary grainy rough-concrete surfact texture.  But 
>then it could be just because of the reduced image size.
>
>Maris
>
>Paul Stenquist wrote:
>  
>
>>Interesting comment, Maris. On what basis? I see no halo effect, no
>>afterglow, no crispiness. Where do you see evidence of
>>oversharpening. Not trying to be argumentative, just curious.
>>Paul
>>On Apr 17, 2007, at 9:54 PM, Maris V. Lidaka Sr. wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Composition and B&W conversion look very good.  For me, it appears
>>>oversharpened.
>>>
>>>Maris
>>>
>>>P. J. Alling wrote:
>>>  
>>>
http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/pirellibuildingdetail.html

Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax 43mm f1.9 Limited

Notes: B&W conversion in using B&W plus yellow filter applied. 


>
>
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a flower for Shel - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Something about people shooting more flowers now with digital than  
they did with film?

I dunno. Flowers are easy game... and it costs nothing to shoot a  
bunch of them ...

   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/flower-for-shel.jpg

;-)

Godfrey

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Re: PESO - Distortion

[Shel Belinkoff]

Nothing happened at earthlink.  A few people were mucking around the
pdml-pics site so I made some "security" changes.  I'll have things running
smoothly later today ...

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Maris V. Lidaka Sr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Date: 4/18/2007 5:59:29 PM
> Subject: Re: PESO - Distortion
>
> Something appears to have happened at EarthLink.net - I accessed the
image 
> fine earlier today, but at present it reports "Page Not Found"
>
> Maris
>
> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> > Hi Peter,
> >
> > I'll check on it on my next pass and see if there's some problem.  It
> > seems to have come up for others - maybe there's something that
> > corrupted the page somehow. Of course, I'm always surprised that
> > anything to do with computers works 
> >
> > Shel
> >
> >
> >
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: P. J. Alling
> >
> >> I can't seem to load the page, which is interesting since I seem to
> >> be able to load my own earthlink pages.
> >>
> >> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> >>> http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/distortion.html
>
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Re: PDML Members' web pages

[Bong Manayon]

Hi Mark,

That was quick but definitely not dirty.  I'm inspired, maybe I'll
fiddle with my own website as well...

Bong

On 4/18/07, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Quick-n-dirty page:
>
> http://www.robertstech.com/pdml.htm
>
>
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Re: PESO - Distortion

[Maris V. Lidaka Sr.]

Something appears to have happened at EarthLink.net - I accessed the image 
fine earlier today, but at present it reports "Page Not Found"

Maris

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>
> I'll check on it on my next pass and see if there's some problem.  It
> seems to have come up for others - maybe there's something that
> corrupted the page somehow. Of course, I'm always surprised that
> anything to do with computers works 
>
> Shel
>
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: P. J. Alling
>
>> I can't seem to load the page, which is interesting since I seem to
>> be able to load my own earthlink pages.
>>
>> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/distortion.html


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Re: Pentax Photo gallery ratio?

[Bong Manayon]

Hello Pawel,

There's a thread somewhere where this has been said, but go to

http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artist?action=artistRules

Click on CONTACT PENTAX then ask for an artist number.

Bong

On 4/19/07, Pawel Bartuzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How do you submit photos to the gallery? When I visit
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com I see only "coming soon" page with no
> links...
>
> Pawel
>
>
> cbwaters wrote:
> > I've got four images approved now but it's taken fourteen submissions to get
> > there.  Mind you, these are all images I see as keepers.  I do understand
> > though that it's pretty much a subjective grading system.  It feels good to
> > have one's images judged and approved but I'm trying not to get too
> > wrapped-up in it
> >
> > I'm just wondering what sort of in/out ratio you guys whit LOTS of approved
> > images are seeing.
> >
> > I wish they'd put some quick comments in when they decline images.  Even
> > canned ones like "not sharp" or "too much noise" or even "Too Orange"
> >  
> > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artist/galleryimages/gallery_image_175549.jpgCW
> >
> >
>
>
> 
> .com = 9,90, .pl = 29,90
> www.nazwa.pl
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Re: PESO - Distortion

[Shel Belinkoff]

Yes, I figured how Sorenson did it, and decided that I didn't want people
to have free access to my web pages.  This'll at least slow such things
down a bit.  I suppose I've been too lax with even the most rudimentary
security and privacy measures.  No more ... Thanks, Paul.

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Digital Image Studio 

>  Shel Belinkoff  wrote:
> > Hmmm ... how could that have happened?  I wonder if while mucking
around I
> > may have inadvertently changed something.  BTW, how'd you discover that?
>
> I used the following URL which allowed a free browsing of the web site
> directories however now there is appears to be a rudimentary index
> page in place so browsing is no longer possible.
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/



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Re: PESO - Distortion

[Maris V. Lidaka Sr.]

Page still not found.

Maris

Digital Image Studio wrote:
> On 19/04/07, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi Peter,
>> 
>> I'll check on it on my next pass and see if there's some problem. 
>> It seems to have come up for others - maybe there's something that
>> corrupted the page somehow. Of course, I'm always surprised that
>> anything to do with computers works 
> 
>>> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/distortion.html
> 
> The URL is:
> 
> http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/distort.html



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Re: PDML Members' web pages

[Mark Roberts]

Mark Cassino wrote:

>Mark Roberts wrote:
>> Quick-n-dirty page:
>> 
>> http://www.robertstech.com/pdml.htm
>>
>Looks nice, Mark. Feel free to add mine if it won't run down the 
>neighborhood

By "run down" the neighborhood, do you mean crush us all into 
insignificance by comparison? Don't know if I can prevent that but 
you're on the list now anyway :)

BTW all: Let me know if you find any glitches anywhere in my site, I've 
recently upgraded most of the site from HTML 4.01 to XHTML 1.0 and 
there may be a few bugs I haven't tracked down yet.


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Re: PESO - Distortion

[Russell Kerstetter]

I still cannot find it  :(

Russ

On 4/18/07, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/distortion.html
>
> So, I'm walkin' along and I see this guy making faces at his reflection in
> a store window.  I strike up a conversation and then get to take a couple
> of snaps.  I decided to enhance his silly face by using the 85mm lens close
> up and shooting from a low angle.  Didn't care much about detail and
> precise focus as it was something a little more abstract I was looking for.
> So, there you have it ...
>
>
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Re: PAW - Sipping Tea

[David J Brooks]

Now its time to come back up to horse country, Frank. We LOVE histo people.

Dave

On 4/18/07, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 18/4/07, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >
> >http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5865658
> >
> >Taken at the same time in the same coffeeshop as the aforementioned
> >photo.  I rather like this one.
> >
> >Comments are welcome.
>
> You and Paul could team up here. Coffee House Snappers Inc  ;-)
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Paw LV-3

[David J Brooks]

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5867097

Tried a few,from the hip,street shots in Vegas. This is one i like.

They have a stream of people trying to hand out hooker and stripper cards.

K10D 16-45 SR from the hip.

I tried a B&W, looks good

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Re: PDML Members' web pages

[Mark Cassino]

Mark Roberts wrote:
> Quick-n-dirty page:
> 
> http://www.robertstech.com/pdml.htm
>
Looks nice, Mark. Feel free to add mine if it won't run down the 
neighborhood

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Re: PESO - Distortion

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On 19/04/07, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hmmm ... how could that have happened?  I wonder if while mucking around I
> may have inadvertently changed something.  BTW, how'd you discover that?

I used the following URL which allowed a free browsing of the web site
directories however now there is appears to be a rudimentary index
page in place so browsing is no longer possible.

http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/

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RE: Major enablement

[Bill Sawyer]

Jim,

I think that you will like the lens a lot, I've had mine for three years or
so. The lighter weight than the f4 version is a plus to me, as I
occasionally hike a ways with it in a backpack to get where I want to use
it. I carry it in a large photo backpack.  The poor positioning of the
tripod mount is a problem, but not seriously so. I find it quite sharp,
though it's not a good lens for moving subjects, due largely to the mount
position, at least I don't think so. Mr. Robb has some experience with it's
use on a gimbaled head. Here's a shot taken at Kensington Metropark (I'm in
Livonia, BTW) with this lens, the 1.4x teleconverter with an ist D.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5016800

Congratulations, I know you'll like it, and for what it's worth, it sounds
to me like you got a good price if the pictures do it justice.

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After several years of searching I finally found and won an eBay auction
(150111393342) for a Pentax A*600/5.6 lens in pristine condition.  I wanted
it for my lens collection which now includes all of the A-series glass
except the A*1200/8, which I've never seen for sale.  It should be great for
long shots over Lake Erie from the front porch of our summer cottage.  It
will be interesting to see how the SR of the K10D works with it - at a
little over 3 Kg it might be marginally hand-holdable.  I suspect that it
will spend more time on my HD tripod, however.

This one was really hard to find - the only other time I saw one up for
auction on eBay, I accidentally slept through the close of the auction and
never got my bid in!  This one cost a bit more than the earlier one but
seems to be in better condition (fingers crossed).

There is also an FA*600/4 up on eBay currently. but the price just makes my
head spin!

Regards, Jim

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Re: Two questions

[Digital Image Studio]

On 19/04/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It's the last command on the last page of the Record menus. Fast way
> there: hit the Menu button and the up arrow on the controller.
>
> I don't use manual focus zoom lenses much, but I have been playing
> with the Pentax-A Rear Converter 2x-S and the DA70mm and DA50-200
> lenses. Seems to do a very respectable job. I set SR to 135mm with
> the DA70 and it works beautifully.

Thanks, I completely missed it, I was just powering the camera off/on
so that the menu automatically popped up when changing lenses with no
ROM feedback.

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Re: OT: MacBook

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Apr 18, 2007, at 3:01 PM, Michael Chan wrote:

> On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 22:22 +0100, Bob W wrote:
>> The children of one of my friends want a laptop, and more  
>> particularly
>> they want a MacBook. My friend knows nothing about computers, but she
>> needs to be able to run Windows software for a course she'll be  
>> taking
>> later this year.
>>
>> What extras are required to be able to run Windows software on a Mac,
>> and what is the performance of Windows software like when run this
>> way?
>
> There are three options to run Windows on an Intel-based Mac.  Each
> option requires a valid Windows 2000/XP/Vista install disk and license
> which is a separate purchase from the software listed below.
>
> 1) BootCamp http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
>
> 2) Parallels www.parallels.com
>
> 3) VMWare Fusion http://www.vmware.com/products/beta/fusion/
>
> Bootcamp boots straight into windows or into OSX from cold start.
> Parallels/VMWare run Windows in a virtual machine within OSX.
> Performance does not take too much of a hit when virtualized; in  
> any of
> the options it's mostly based on the hardware in the MacBook and  
> will be
> comparable to a non-Apple hardware macine of similar  
> specifications, but
> you will want to have a lot of memory in any case; 1 Gig at least; 2
> Gigs would be better.
>
> Apple currently doesn't charge for BootCamp.  Parallels costs money.
> VMWare currently doesn't charge for Fusion but probably will once it
> comes out of beta.
>
> I've seen all three in action.  Parallels is my favorite solution
> currently.

Michael covered all the options.

Several of my clients bought MacBooks specifically so they could work  
in both Mac OS X and Windows as a part of their business needs.  
Parallels worked best for them when they needed simultaneous access  
to both environments, Boot Camp proves to give the best performance  
(better screen/graphics adaption) and is more compatible with some  
Windows devices and applications.

I have no experience with VMWare Fusion.

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Re: PAW - Coffeehouse Flowers

[John Coyle]

Slightly over-lit, in my opinion, Frank.  I tend to dial in at least half a 
stop underexposure when using the RTF on the *ist-D


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>I still don't really know how to do this stuff, but I was
> experimenting a bit with the on-board flash of the *istD.
>
> Work or not?
>
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5865680
>
> Comments are always appreciated.
>
> thanks,
> frank
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Re: Two questions

[Mark Cassino]

David J Brooks wrote:
> Hi gang.
> 
> --Setting SR with an A lens. Do you use the actual or the 1.5 FL. I
> used the A 28 in Vegas for a few shots and set it at 28.

I set it to actual focal length, except when using a teleconverter, in 
which I'd use the focal length taking the TC into account (e.g. a 200mm 
lens with a 2x TC would be set to 400mm).

Looking at your post and Marcus's - I have to say that I'm setting it 
for a lens / TC combo based on intuition, not on documentation. But the 
old saw about teleconverters is that a lens with a teleconverter 
attached functions in every manner as a lens whose focal length and 
speed are multiplied by the TC. But there are those who disagree with 
that assertion WRT depth of field.
> 
> --Polerizers. Do you add EV to make up for the lost light or shoot
> what the meter gives you.I used it a bit in Vegas and the +.3 shots
> look good, even though the histogram was still quite a wasys from the
> right.I used the Tav mode for 99% of shots. Asking as i rarely use
> filters and i wound up bracketing a lot.

Shoot what the meter gives you.

That reminds me of a test I have to run. Last winter I read something by 
Ansel Adams where he said the 'filter factor' for a polarizer was the 
same regardless of the setting of the polarizer. So - sky dark, sky 
light, make the same adjustment. He was talking about using a hand held, 
non-TTL filter. I've been meaning to see if that is how TTL filters 
truly respond. Now that the sun is shining again I'll have to test that 
one out.

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Re: Two questions

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Apr 18, 2007, at 3:14 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote:

>> In my simple testing I found that for the A 35-105/3.5 and A 70-210/4
>> zooms, that SR worked markedly better when the correct focal length
>> was input to match the shooting focal length.  The downside to  
>> that is,
>> using zooms with SR is not as easy and quick as I would like.  It  
>> sort
>> of pushes me towards considering more modern ones.
>
> The fact that the system disallows the manual SR FL to be set manually
> without having to turn the camera on and off could be easily rectified
> with some firmware changes but I suspect that would make the camera
> too utilitarian.

If you're using a lens which does not supply FL information to the  
camera, you do not need to power cycle the camera to set the FL. Just  
use the Menu -> Record section, last page, command "Shake Reduction"  
and set the focal length whenever you please.

It's the last command on the last page of the Record menus. Fast way  
there: hit the Menu button and the up arrow on the controller.

I don't use manual focus zoom lenses much, but I have been playing  
with the Pentax-A Rear Converter 2x-S and the DA70mm and DA50-200  
lenses. Seems to do a very respectable job. I set SR to 135mm with  
the DA70 and it works beautifully.

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Re: Film scanner dillemma

[Doug Franklin]

I have had a CanoScan FS4000US for several years.  It does great scans
at 1k, 2k, and 4k ppi.  It also has the infrared "spot removal" system,
which Canon calls FARE.  It scans strips of up to six 35mm frames or
slides.  The problem is that it's slow.  I mean dead dog slow.  At 4k
ppi with FARE enabled, scanning an entire "rack" of six takes a /looong/
time.  It's been a while since I scanned any film, but IIRC it was like
15 minutes or more for six scans.  Might've been longer.

Something to be aware of is chroma noise or grain aliasing.  At
resolutions around 4k ppi with many films, the physical size of a
sensor's view on the film and the grains/clouds in the film base are
getting (relatively) close to the same.

That causes some sampling problems (vaguely related to moire) that lead
to colored speckles in the image.  It's like noise in a B&W photo, but a
rainbow of colors.  At 2k ppi or 1k ppi, it doesn't show up.  At 3600
ppi it's starting to show up a little and at 4k ppi it can be bad,
depending on the film you're scanning and the photo in it.

There were several long discussions about it here on the PDML back
around 2002.  One, in particular, I started on 26 March 2002.  I wonder
if there are any archives that go back that far.  If not, maybe I'll see
what the PDML can collectively check their local archives for those
discussions.

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Re: PESO - Distortion

[Shel Belinkoff]

Hmmm ... how could that have happened?  I wonder if while mucking around I
may have inadvertently changed something.  BTW, how'd you discover that?

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Paul Sorenson 
> Change the page name to *distort.html* and it'll work.
>
> -P
>
> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> > Hi Peter,
> > 
> > I'll check on it on my next pass and see if there's some problem.  It
seems
> > to have come up for others - maybe there's something that corrupted the
> > page somehow. Of course, I'm always surprised that anything to do with
> > computers works 
> > 
> > Shel
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: P. J. Alling 
> > 
> >> I can't seem to load the page, which is interesting since I seem to be 
> >> able to load my own earthlink pages.
> >>
> >> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> >>> http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/distortion.html
> > 
> > 
> > 
>
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Re: PESO - Distortion

[Digital Image Studio]

On 19/04/07, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>
> I'll check on it on my next pass and see if there's some problem.  It seems
> to have come up for others - maybe there's something that corrupted the
> page somehow. Of course, I'm always surprised that anything to do with
> computers works 

> > Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> > > http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/distortion.html

The URL is:

http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/distort.html

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Re: PESO - Distortion

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Shel Belinkoff" 
Subject: PESO - Distortion


> http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/distortion.html
> 

Page not found.

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Re: PESO - Distortion

[Paul Sorenson]

Change the page name to *distort.html* and it'll work.

-P

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> 
> I'll check on it on my next pass and see if there's some problem.  It seems
> to have come up for others - maybe there's something that corrupted the
> page somehow. Of course, I'm always surprised that anything to do with
> computers works 
> 
> Shel
> 
> 
> 
>> [Original Message]
>> From: P. J. Alling 
> 
>> I can't seem to load the page, which is interesting since I seem to be 
>> able to load my own earthlink pages.
>>
>> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/distortion.html
> 
> 
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Re: PAW - Coffeehouse Flowers

[Doug Franklin]

frank theriault wrote:
> On 4/18/07, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> Maybe a tad to bright Frank. Not washed out but over bearing abit.
> 
> It certainly does look artificial.  That's kind of what intrigued me about it.

Needs about -1, -1.5, -2 flash Ev compensation to balance the flash with
the brightness of the window in the background.  As it is, it seems like
the photographer or camera was glowing white hot to illuminate the vase,
while the only apparent source of light is behind the vase.

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Re: PESO - Distortion

[Shel Belinkoff]

Hi Peter,

I'll check on it on my next pass and see if there's some problem.  It seems
to have come up for others - maybe there's something that corrupted the
page somehow. Of course, I'm always surprised that anything to do with
computers works 

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: P. J. Alling 

> I can't seem to load the page, which is interesting since I seem to be 
> able to load my own earthlink pages.
>
> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/distortion.html



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Re: PESO - Distortion

[P. J. Alling]

I can't seem to load the page, which is interesting since I seem to be 
able to load my own earthlink pages.

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/distortion.html
>
> So, I'm walkin' along and I see this guy making faces at his reflection in
> a store window.  I strike up a conversation and then get to take a couple
> of snaps.  I decided to enhance his silly face by using the 85mm lens close
> up and shooting from a low angle.  Didn't care much about detail and
> precise focus as it was something a little more abstract I was looking for.
> So, there you have it ...
>
>
> Shel
>
>
>
>
>   


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Re: Film scanner dillemma

[Digital Image Studio]

On 19/04/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I haven't read the rest of this thread yet, but I thought I'd toss in my two
> cents anyway.
>
>
> I swear by the Nikon Coolscan 8000.  It was what I used for all my 35mm, 
> medium
> format, small format & odd-sized scanning at my old camera shop job.  When the
> shop closed, I bought the scanner from them.  The Minolta 5400 was a very good
> scanner for its price point, but the Nikon 8000 was probably the best 
> dedicated
> film scanner I've used.

I really should do a proper head to head comparison one day as I own
the Epson V700, Minolta 5400II and the Nikon LS 8000 :-)

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Re: OT: Extremely retro

[Brendan MacRae]

The third one of the Capital is a doosy.

-Brendan
--- Mark Erickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> For you old camera enthusiasts:  I reinvigorated my
> grandmother's old Kodak
> Vest Pocket Model B by having Jurgen Kreckel replace
> the disintegrated paper
> bellows (don't ask how much it cost). I just ran a
> roll of Efke 100 through
> it to see if it works. These pictures were taken
> early in April 2007 in the
> Sacramento area. I scanned a contact sheet, dust and
> all, and put the better
> shots into a little web page:
> 
> http://www.westerickson.net/vestpocketmodelb
> 
> It's kind of a refreshing change from worrying about
> whether to stay with my
> *ist-Ds or upgrade to  a K10D.
> 
> Enjoy,
> 
> Mark
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Re: Two questions

[Digital Image Studio]

On 19/04/07, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> In my simple testing I found that for the A 35-105/3.5 and A 70-210/4
> zooms, that SR worked markedly better when the correct focal length
> was input to match the shooting focal length.  The downside to that is,
> using zooms with SR is not as easy and quick as I would like.  It sort
> of pushes me towards considering more modern ones.

The fact that the system disallows the manual SR FL to be set manually
without having to turn the camera on and off could be easily rectified
with some firmware changes but I suspect that would make the camera
too utilitarian.

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Re: Lens cleaning - to do or not to do?

[P. J. Alling]

Bad, bad Pawel,  you should not be encouraging Norm.  Bad...

Pawel Bartuzi wrote:
> Norm,
>
> This is exactly what I was affraid of - the dust can escape from the 
> lens and scatter all over my camera bag! If you feel you can tackle the 
> problem I will gladly send you the lens safely packed along with SMC M 
> 24-35/3.5, K 28/2 and K 35/2 which also have some dust inside. I am 
> really glad you offered help as I was feeling somewhat lost not knowing 
> what to do. Luckily FA 35/2 is new and therefore relatively clean.
>
> Do you feel you could dispose also my refconverter A and a MX body? :-)
>
> Pawel
>
>
> Norm Baugher wrote:
>   
>> Hi Pawel, sounds like a lot of dust. Usually this makes the lens 
>> worthless and they should be disposed of properly. If you like, you can 
>> send them to me and I'll dispose of them for you...
>> Norm
>>
>> Pawel Bartuzi wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> What is your opinion on lens cleaning? I mean not the usual cleaning but 
>>> professional cleaning involving taking the lens apart and cleaning all 
>>> of it's surfaces?
>>>
>>> I ask this question because I have several K primes which are now about 
>>> 30 years old and although the pictures made with them are nice, when 
>>> inspecting the lens with strong flash light I can easily see amounts of 
>>> dust sitting on all of the internal surfaces. On some of the lenses, 
>>> like SMC K 18/3.5 - where there are 12 elements in 11 groups - I can 
>>> imagine it does affect the image quality (and indeed, the lens is soft 
>>> on the edges of the frame).
>>>
>>> I wonder whether thorough cleaning of the lens done by a professional 
>>> does improve such lens performance by a significant margin? Does it 
>>> raise or lower the lens value? What is your opinion, your experience?
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
>>   
>> 
>
>
> 
> .com = 9,90, .pl = 29,90 
> www.nazwa.pl
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Re: PAW - Coffeehouse Flowers

[P. J. Alling]

It's a bit over exposed.  The flash overpowered the flowers in the 
forground and the ambient light seems to have completely blown out the 
background.  Unless you were trying for something like that.

frank theriault wrote:
> I still don't really know how to do this stuff, but I was
> experimenting a bit with the on-board flash of the *istD.
>
> Work or not?
>
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5865680
>
> Comments are always appreciated.
>
> thanks,
> frank
>
>   


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Re: PESO 2007 - 19b - GDG

[Digital Image Studio]

On 19/04/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe it's the corner distortion that you'd expect on an ultra wide
> angle lens for the format.

It's simple perspective distortion due to the proximity of the subject
vs the angle of view.

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Re: PESO - NOT A BIRD!

[Christian]

frank theriault wrote:
> On 4/17/07, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> http://tinyurl.com/2ln4n3
>>
>>
> 
> How could anyone not like a cute little bunny like that?
> 
> Nice shot, Christian.  I believe that Cotty's working on the front
> cover of Cute Bunny Times as we speak...

Thanks, frank...  And welcome to the digital age (if not the dark side). :-)

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Re: PAW: Exciting Career Opportunities

[P. J. Alling]

You might think so...

frank theriault wrote:
> On 4/18/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> A bit of color is really good at bring false meaning to a subject...
>> 
>
> Does that explain why some women wear makeup?
>
> 
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
>   


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Re: OT: MacBook

[Michael Chan]

On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 22:22 +0100, Bob W wrote:
> The children of one of my friends want a laptop, and more particularly
> they want a MacBook. My friend knows nothing about computers, but she
> needs to be able to run Windows software for a course she'll be taking
> later this year. 
> 
> What extras are required to be able to run Windows software on a Mac,
> and what is the performance of Windows software like when run this
> way?

There are three options to run Windows on an Intel-based Mac.  Each
option requires a valid Windows 2000/XP/Vista install disk and license
which is a separate purchase from the software listed below.

1) BootCamp http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/

2) Parallels www.parallels.com

3) VMWare Fusion http://www.vmware.com/products/beta/fusion/

Bootcamp boots straight into windows or into OSX from cold start.
Parallels/VMWare run Windows in a virtual machine within OSX.
Performance does not take too much of a hit when virtualized; in any of
the options it's mostly based on the hardware in the MacBook and will be
comparable to a non-Apple hardware macine of similar specifications, but
you will want to have a lot of memory in any case; 1 Gig at least; 2
Gigs would be better.

Apple currently doesn't charge for BootCamp.  Parallels costs money.
VMWare currently doesn't charge for Fusion but probably will once it
comes out of beta.

I've seen all three in action.  Parallels is my favorite solution
currently.

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Re: PESO - Distortion

[Shel Belinkoff]

Woof!  Woof Wuf Arrrf 

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Norm Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Date: 4/18/2007 2:36:01 PM
> Subject: Re: PESO - Distortion
>
> Was he having a 60's flash-back?
> Norm
>
> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/distortion.html



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Re: PAW - Coffeehouse Flowers

[frank theriault]

On 4/18/07, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> have a look in the manual, Frank, see if you can find anything about
> 2nd-curtain sync.

I checked - it doesn't work with the pop-up flash, and my Big Flash
isn't one of those all-singing all-dancing Pentax auto-wonders, so it
won't work.

I'll figure something out, though.

;-)

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Re: PESO - Distortion

[Maris V. Lidaka Sr.]

Looks like Salvador Dali to me :-)  I'm just now reading about him.

Maris

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/distortion.html
> 
> So, I'm walkin' along and I see this guy making faces at his
> reflection in a store window.  I strike up a conversation and then
> get to take a couple of snaps.  I decided to enhance his silly face
> by using the 85mm lens close up and shooting from a low angle. 
> Didn't care much about detail and precise focus as it was something a
> little more abstract I was looking for. So, there you have it ...

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Re: PESO - Distortion

[Norm Baugher]

Was he having a 60's flash-back?
Norm

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/distortion.html
>
> So, I'm walkin' along and I see this guy making faces at his reflection in
> a store window.  
>
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Re: speaking of enablement..

[Paul]

Yes, i have actualy removed them. I also found it was  easier to compare 
the results at different settings with vuescan.

Paul

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> You mean the film holder height adjusters on the V700?
>
> Godfrey
>
> On Apr 17, 2007, at 5:00 PM, Paul wrote:
>
>   
>> I adjusted the risers on mine and it made a huge difference to the
>> sharpness.
>>
>> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>> 
>>> My Epson 2450 flatbed scanner, used to scan medium format negatives,
>>> simply can't muster enough quality to compete with a Pentax K10D. So,
>>> since I have a bunch of MF negatives, have the Pentax 645 here now,
>>> and I can't really justify the $1300 used-1800 new for a Nikon 9000
>>> ED, I upgraded to the Epson V700.
>>>
>>> Just did a few tests, nothing to post yet, but it is definitely a
>>> good bit better on resolution and speed compared to the 2450. And it
>>> was less expensive than the 2450 was when I bought it in 2002 or
>>> 2003. Time does march onwards...
>>>   
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Re: PAW - Sipping Tea

[frank theriault]

On 4/18/07, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 4/18/07, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > You and Paul could team up here. Coffee House Snappers Inc  ;-)

I'll leave the flower shots to Paul, then.

;-)

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RE: PESO - Distortion

[Bob W]

Looks like my passport photo.

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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff
> Sent: 18 April 2007 22:18
> To: PDML
> Subject: PESO - Distortion
> 
> http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/distortion.html
> 
> So, I'm walkin' along and I see this guy making faces at his 
> reflection in
> a store window.  I strike up a conversation and then get to 
> take a couple
> of snaps.  I decided to enhance his silly face by using the 
> 85mm lens close
> up and shooting from a low angle.  Didn't care much about detail and
> precise focus as it was something a little more abstract I 
> was looking for.
> So, there you have it ...
> 
> 
> Shel
> 
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PESO - Distortion

[Shel Belinkoff]

http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/distortion.html

So, I'm walkin' along and I see this guy making faces at his reflection in
a store window.  I strike up a conversation and then get to take a couple
of snaps.  I decided to enhance his silly face by using the 85mm lens close
up and shooting from a low angle.  Didn't care much about detail and
precise focus as it was something a little more abstract I was looking for.
So, there you have it ...


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Re: PESO - Distortion

[frank theriault]

On 4/18/07, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/distortion.html
>
> So, I'm walkin' along and I see this guy making faces at his reflection in
> a store window.  I strike up a conversation and then get to take a couple
> of snaps.  I decided to enhance his silly face by using the 85mm lens close
> up and shooting from a low angle.  Didn't care much about detail and
> precise focus as it was something a little more abstract I was looking for.
> So, there you have it ...
>

I think that distortion could be fixed up in PS, no?

;-)

Fun shot, Shel.  I like it a lot!

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OT: MacBook

[Bob W]

The children of one of my friends want a laptop, and more particularly
they want a MacBook. My friend knows nothing about computers, but she
needs to be able to run Windows software for a course she'll be taking
later this year. 

What extras are required to be able to run Windows software on a Mac,
and what is the performance of Windows software like when run this
way?

Thanks,
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RE: PAW - Coffeehouse Flowers

[Bob W]

> 
> > Besides, flash makes it hard to blur. 
> 
> Throwing down the gauntlet are we?
> 
> ;-)
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 

have a look in the manual, Frank, see if you can find anything about
2nd-curtain sync.

Bob


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Re: PAW: The Minarets Revisited

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Cotty.

On Apr 18, 2007, at 5:00 PM, Cotty wrote:

> That's nice :-)
>
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5865319&size=lg
>
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Re: PESO - NOT A BIRD!

[Cotty]

On 18/4/07, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Nice shot, Christian.  I believe that Cotty's working on the front
>cover of Cute Bunny Times as we speak...

I wish I had the time!

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Re: PAW - Sipping Tea

[frank theriault]

On 4/18/07, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> You and Paul could team up here. Coffee House Snappers Inc  ;-)

;-)

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RE: PAW - Coffeehouse Flowers

[Bob W]

there's a lot of truth in what you say. Although I don't think I've
tumbled quite so far as to do flower pics, I have photographed a lot
of things with digital that I wouldn't have bothered about with film,
and had some results I've been pleased with even though they're not
really my kind of thing really.

I think the explanation is that the marginal cost of digital
photography is much lower than that for film photography.

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> 
> 
> 
> Hi Frank, no, it doesn't "work," but getting the hang of 
> flash is sometimes
> difficult with new gear.  Why am I laughing?  Well, it's not 
> at you or the
> pic, but for the longest time I've contended that since the 
> advent of the
> popularity of digital many photogs who were shooting 
> documentary or street
> photos all of a sudden starting showing flower and macro 
> pics.  So many
> have told me that there's no difference between what subjects 
> they shot
> with film and the work that they are currently doing with digital,
yet
> looking at their body of work I saw a greater frequency of 
> "cute" photos
> and flower pics.  Welcome to the club ... you're a real, 
> official digi-head
> now.
> 
> Shel
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Re: PAW - Coffeehouse Flowers

[frank theriault]

On 4/18/07, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Not.

A consensus seems to be building...



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Re: PAW - Sipping Tea

[Cotty]

On 18/4/07, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5865658
>
>Taken at the same time in the same coffeeshop as the aforementioned
>photo.  I rather like this one.
>
>Comments are welcome.

You and Paul could team up here. Coffee House Snappers Inc  ;-)

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Re: Major enablement

[frank theriault]

On 4/18/07, Jim King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  It should be great for long shots over Lake Erie from the
> front porch of our summer cottage.

Sounds to me like yer spying...

;-)

Seriously, that's one serious lens - congrats on your acquisition.

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Re: PAW: The Minarets Revisited

[Cotty]

That's nice :-)

>> > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5865319&size=lg

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Re: PAW - Coffeehouse Flowers

[Cotty]

On 18/4/07, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>Work or not?
>
>http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5865680
>
>Comments are always appreciated.

Not.

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Pentax Hoya Update

[Tom C]

Excerpts follow...

TOKYO (Nikkei)--As the Pentax Corp. board reached the brink of
rejecting Hoya Corp.'s tender offer proposal, outside advisers may have
persuaded Pentax's leadership to reconsider in light of the potential 
backlash
from investors.

...

The market, which had generally supported the Hoya merger plan, turned
against Pentax as of that day.  After closing at 800 yen on April 9, Pentax
shares finished Tuesday at 759 yen.

"Neglect of shareholder interests can be taken only so far," a longtime
M&A banker notes.

...

But consultations the previous day with Daiwa Securities SMBC Co., Mizuho
Securities Co. and multiple overseas investment banks could have planted the
seeds for the change of heart.  Pentax canceled the scheduled board meeting
late Tuesday night.  In an abrupt about-face, the firm not only withdrew a
resolution opposing the proposed tender offer, but decided to carefully
consider the measure.

...

Had the Hoya tender offer proposal been rejected on Wednesday as
originally planned, Pentax's management would undoubtedly have faced a bleak
outcome.  Such a development would have meant a complete breakdown of
negotiations, opening up the possibility of a hostile bid by Hoya.

Institutional investors including Sparx Group Co. (8739) and Fidelity
Investment are among Pentax's top shareholders.  Given their share price
sensitivity, such an unsolicited tender offer was likely to have succeeded,
marking the first hostile takeover in Japan.

...

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Re: PESO - NOT A BIRD!

[frank theriault]

On 4/17/07, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Doug Brewer wrote:
>
> >Christian wrote:
> >> To saturate the list with cuddly animals in response to David Savage's
> >> cat pic I offer the following:
> >>
> http://links.pictures.aol.com/pic/af70brGLOS2f4K3nV1HBLLFUs634bghW3hUEv4xQp5Fd3Ig=_f.jpg
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/2ln4n3
> >>
> >> Comments appreciated.
> >
> >but, it's only a bunny!
>
> Yeah, but that rabbit's got a mean streak a mile wide!
>

Get stuffed!!

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Re: PAW - Coffeehouse Flowers

[Scott Loveless]

Frank, it doesn't work.  Too much flash light on the flowers.  I'm not an 
aficionado on any subject, other than maybe procrastination, but these are my 
personal rules for on-board flash.  They were developed, more or less, since 
getting a DSLR.

1.  If the on-board flash is the primary source of light, it's probably gonna 
suck.
2.  If the photograph looks as though I used the on-board flash, it probably 
sucks.
3.  Move back.  Zoom or change lenses to retain framing.
4.  Reduce the power output of the flash.
5.  ?
6.  Profit!  Or something.

HTH.  Better yet, I hope someone else has better advice for you.  

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> I still don't really know how to do this stuff, but I was
> experimenting a bit with the on-board flash of the *istD.
> 
> Work or not?
> 
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5865680
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> Comments are always appreciated.
> 
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Re: PESO - NOT A BIRD!

[frank theriault]

On 4/17/07, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To saturate the list with cuddly animals in response to David Savage's
> cat pic I offer the following:
>
> http://links.pictures.aol.com/pic/af70brGLOS2f4K3nV1HBLLFUs634bghW3hUEv4xQp5Fd3Ig=_f.jpg
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2ln4n3
>
> Comments appreciated.
>

How could anyone not like a cute little bunny like that?

Nice shot, Christian.  I believe that Cotty's working on the front
cover of Cute Bunny Times as we speak...

;-)

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Re: PAW - Sipping Tea

[frank theriault]

On 4/18/07, Maris V. Lidaka Sr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 'Tis better than the flowers - flash for this one, too?

Nope.  Available light.

Thanks for commenting, and thanks to everyone else who commented (even
Shel ).

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