Re: OT: To our Londoners

[Cotty]

On 13/08/07, Gianfranco Irlanda, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> That depends if her boyfriend will be coming along or not.
>
>I'm quite sure he won't...
>:-)
>
>Ciao,
>
>Gianco

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PESO: Response to "Liftoff"

[syb vis]

So we were at Artis, the Amsterdam Zoo. There I shot a lot of empty
leaves, and one successful liftoff...

http://fotodag.fotopic.net/p44085856.html


Comments are always welcomed. I may learn from them, or decide to
ignore them. Feel free to contribute!

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PESO - Heaven's Feet

[Marco Alpert]

http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo07/peso5.html

Comments, as always, welcomed.

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Re: OT - a little late on the bicycle thing...

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: OT - a little late on the bicycle thing...



> On the other hand it works really well as a lubricant when 
> drilling/turning
> aluminium (At low speeds. It smells pretty bad when it burns :-).

It makes a great flame thrower.

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Re: OT - a little late on the bicycle thing...

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Aug 13, 2007, at 6:25 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>
>> Beware: Spraying WD40 on steel or aluminum surfaces *promotes* rust.
>>
>> WD40 is a water dispersal developed for the navy ... the name comes
>> from "water dispersal formulation #40". As such, it is hygroscopic:
>> it's designed to suck up water,
>
> Urban legends.
>
Tell that to the people whose engine blocks needed stripping and  
rebuilding, Mark.

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Re: OT - a little late on the bicycle thing...

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Roberts" 
Subject: Re: OT - a little late on the bicycle thing...




> http://www.wd40.com/AboutUs/our_history.html
> 

I like Jig-A-Loo's website much better
http://www.jigaloo.com/en/
The product works like a hot damn too.

William Robb


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Re: PESO 2007 - 34b, 34c - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Aug 13, 2007, at 5:39 PM, keith_w wrote:

>>http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/34b.htm
>
> Nice, but...
>
>>http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/34c.htm
>
> The longer I look at it, the more I see!
> So, I enlarged it a mite and find there's a city out there on the  
> horizon!
> Don't know what accounts for the peripheral dimming/fading, but...  
> when blown
> up, it comes alive.
> I have not yet saved it to my desktop, and taken a good look.
>
> Ahhh, that won't help. At 460 X 594 pixels, there's not much  
> there!  

Thank you, Keith. Um, the larger rendering (just click on the image  
at the page above, as with all my photos this year) nets 777x1000  
pixels to view. It gets nicer as it gets larger...

:-)

Godfrey

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Re: Dream Cruise Gallery Pics

[Brendan MacRae]

These really convey a sense "being there."

Thanks, Paul.

-Brendan
--- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The shots I printed for the Zoom Gallery show are
> now posted on  
> photo.net. I had a tough time making a final choice.
> Almost put it to  
> a vote on the PDML, but didn't have time. The list
> of my picks follows.
> 
>
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6305563&size=lg
>
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6305559&size=lg
>
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6305554&size=lg
>
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6305551&size=lg
>
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4834140&size=lg
>
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3708948&size=lg
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http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3631900&size=lg
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Re: Dream Cruise Tonight

[Brendan MacRae]

Love the shot of Lincoln.

-Brendan
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> Two pics from tonight, one from last night. All with
> the K10D and the  
> FA 50/1.4:
>
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6305607&size=lg
>
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6305604&size=lg
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http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6305602&size=lg
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Re: Dream Cruise Gallery Pics

[Kenneth Waller]

You da Dream Cruise man Paul !

I really like 6305563, 4834140 & 3631900 !

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Dream Cruise Gallery Pics


> The shots I printed for the Zoom Gallery show are now posted on  
> photo.net. I had a tough time making a final choice. Almost put it to  
> a vote on the PDML, but didn't have time. The list of my picks follows.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6305563&size=lg
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6305559&size=lg
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6305554&size=lg
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6305551&size=lg
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4834140&size=lg
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3708948&size=lg
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3631900&size=lg
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2907524&size=lg
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Re: 300mm 2.8 AF: Sigma vs Pentax

[P. J. Alling]

You suck even more than I thought possible...

David Savage wrote:
> On 8/14/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Kenneth Waller"
>> Subject: Re: 300mm 2.8 AF: Sigma vs Pentax
>>
>>
>> 
>>> FWIW -
>>>
>>> I have the FA 300mm f4.5, Its a wonderful lens even if it doesn't have a
>>> tripod mount.
>>>
>>> Unless you absolutely, positively need the extra light a 2.8 aperture
>>> provides, I find it very hard to justify the extra cost of the 2.8 300mm
>>> over the 4.5 300mm.
>>>   
>> Which 300/4.5 do I have? It must be the F. Mine has a tripod mount, and is
>> wonderfully small, smaller than my FA200/4 macro.
>> 
>
> I have the FA version:
>
> 
>
> It's the one on the left.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
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Re: Dream Cruise Tonight

[Jack Davis]

Good shutter choices and timing. Surprisingly sharp red cap lady.
Virtually nothing else about the car appears to approach its clarity.
"Cruising" appears to be rather speedy. ;)

Jack
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>  
> FA 50/1.4:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6305607&size=lg
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6305604&size=lg
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6305602&size=lg
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Re: 300mm 2.8 AF: Sigma vs Pentax

[Kenneth Waller]

> Which 300/4.5 do I have? It must be the F. Mine has a tripod mount, and is
> wonderfully small, smaller than my FA200/4 macro.

Yep, that's the "F".
I really like to know the reason for the lack of tripod mount on the FA. 
Probably cost?

And my FA is not smaller than my "A*" 200mm f 4.0 macro.

Kenneth Waller
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>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Kenneth Waller"
> Subject: Re: 300mm 2.8 AF: Sigma vs Pentax
>
>
>> FWIW -
>>
>> I have the FA 300mm f4.5, Its a wonderful lens even if it doesn't have a
>> tripod mount.
>>
>> Unless you absolutely, positively need the extra light a 2.8 aperture
>> provides, I find it very hard to justify the extra cost of the 2.8 300mm
>> over the 4.5 300mm.
>
> Which 300/4.5 do I have? It must be the F. Mine has a tripod mount, and is
> wonderfully small, smaller than my FA200/4 macro.
>
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Re: 300mm 2.8 AF: Sigma vs Pentax

[David Savage]

On 8/14/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kenneth Waller"
> Subject: Re: 300mm 2.8 AF: Sigma vs Pentax
>
>
> > FWIW -
> >
> > I have the FA 300mm f4.5, Its a wonderful lens even if it doesn't have a
> > tripod mount.
> >
> > Unless you absolutely, positively need the extra light a 2.8 aperture
> > provides, I find it very hard to justify the extra cost of the 2.8 300mm
> > over the 4.5 300mm.
>
> Which 300/4.5 do I have? It must be the F. Mine has a tripod mount, and is
> wonderfully small, smaller than my FA200/4 macro.

I have the FA version:



It's the one on the left.

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Dream Cruise Tonight

[Paul Stenquist]

Two pics from tonight, one from last night. All with the K10D and the  
FA 50/1.4:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6305607&size=lg
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6305604&size=lg
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6305602&size=lg
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Dream Cruise Gallery Pics

[Paul Stenquist]

The shots I printed for the Zoom Gallery show are now posted on  
photo.net. I had a tough time making a final choice. Almost put it to  
a vote on the PDML, but didn't have time. The list of my picks follows.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6305563&size=lg
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6305559&size=lg
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6305554&size=lg
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6305551&size=lg
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4834140&size=lg
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3708948&size=lg
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3631900&size=lg
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2907524&size=lg

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Re: OT - a little late on the bicycle thing...

[P. J. Alling]

Not according to the information at the WD-40 web site.  It was 
originaly used to protect the skin of the Atlas Missile, which would be 
counter productive since it was made out of aircraft aluminum.

David Savage wrote:
> At 06:56 AM 14/08/2007, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>   
>> Beware: Spraying WD40 on steel or aluminum surfaces *promotes* rust.
>> 
>
>
> I've been informed that it's slightly acidic & it "eats" into aluminium (?) 
> For this reason (and maybe others) it's not approved for use in aircraft 
> maintenance.
>
> On the other hand it works really well as a lubricant when drilling/turning 
> aluminium (At low speeds. It smells pretty bad when it burns :-).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
>
>
>   


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Re: OT - a little late on the bicycle thing...

[David Savage]

At 10:10 AM 14/08/2007, David Savage wrote:
>At 06:56 AM 14/08/2007, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> >Beware: Spraying WD40 on steel or aluminum surfaces *promotes* rust.
>
>
>I've been informed that it's slightly acidic & it "eats" into aluminium (?)
>For this reason (and maybe others) it's not approved for use in aircraft
>maintenance.
>
>On the other hand it works really well as a lubricant when drilling/turning
>aluminium (At low speeds. It smells pretty bad when it burns :-).

I should clarify "it's not approved for use in aircraft maintenance" where 
my father works.

I'm not sure about it's industry acceptance.

Cheers,

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Re: OT - a little late on the bicycle thing...

[David Savage]

At 06:56 AM 14/08/2007, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>Beware: Spraying WD40 on steel or aluminum surfaces *promotes* rust.


I've been informed that it's slightly acidic & it "eats" into aluminium (?) 
For this reason (and maybe others) it's not approved for use in aircraft 
maintenance.

On the other hand it works really well as a lubricant when drilling/turning 
aluminium (At low speeds. It smells pretty bad when it burns :-).

Cheers,

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Re: OT - a little late on the bicycle thing...

[keith_w]

Mark Roberts wrote:
> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> 
>> Beware: Spraying WD40 on steel or aluminum surfaces *promotes* rust.
>>
>> WD40 is a water dispersal developed for the navy ... the name comes  
>>from "water dispersal formulation #40". As such, it is hygroscopic:  
>> it's designed to suck up water,

> Urban legends.
> 
> It was developed by the San Diego Rocket Chemical Company (and later 
> sold to Convair) by a chemist named Norm Larsen. It is not hygroscopic 
> and is actually quite good at preventing corrosion.
> 
> http://www.wd40.com/AboutUs/our_history.html

Good site.
I think people mistake the water-displacement characteristics of the product 
and think of it as the product absorbing the water. It doesn't...it climbs 
under the water to the substrate interface, and sort of lifts the water off, 
displacing it and depositing a layer of whatever WD-40 is made.

Yes, it works and well.
However, all caveats about not assuming it's an "apply once and forget about 
it" product are totally true.

For what it was designed to do, and then some, it's almost unparalleled, 
but...if you want long term protection, choose something else.
If you want extreme pressure protection as a bearing lube, use something else.

Get their WD-40 Book (from Amazon.com) and be prepared to be surprised!

keith whaley

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Re: OT - a little late on the bicycle thing...

[Mark Roberts]

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

>Beware: Spraying WD40 on steel or aluminum surfaces *promotes* rust.
>
>WD40 is a water dispersal developed for the navy ... the name comes  
>from "water dispersal formulation #40". As such, it is hygroscopic:  
>it's designed to suck up water,

Urban legends.

It was developed by the San Diego Rocket Chemical Company (and later 
sold to Convair) by a chemist named Norm Larsen. It is not hygroscopic 
and is actually quite good at preventing corrosion.

http://www.wd40.com/AboutUs/our_history.html


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Re: PESO 2007 - 34b, 34c - GDG

[keith_w]

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> Two somewhat eclectic photos, from unrelated series ...
> 
>http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/34b.htm

Nice, but...

>http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/34c.htm

The longer I look at it, the more I see!
So, I enlarged it a mite and find there's a city out there on the horizon!
Don't know what accounts for the peripheral dimming/fading, but... when blown 
up, it comes alive.
I have not yet saved it to my desktop, and taken a good look.

Ahhh, that won't help. At 460 X 594 pixels, there's not much there!  

> Comments, critique, etc always appreciated.
> 
> enjoy
> Godfrey

Interesting.

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Re: OT - a little late on the bicycle thing...

[keith_w]

Digital Image Studio wrote:
> On 14/08/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Aug 13, 2007, at 2:48 PM, frank theriault wrote:
>>
>>> Around here, spraying WD 40, or some thinnish oil that "creeps" works.
>>> Spray down the seat tube, take off the headset and spray both the top
>>> and down tubes, and to be safe, while you've to the BB out, spray up
>>> the seat and down tubes.  That should work.


>> Beware: Spraying WD40 on steel or aluminum surfaces *promotes* rust.
>> WD40 is a water dispersal developed for the navy ... the name comes
>> from "water dispersal formulation #40". As such, it is hygroscopic:
>> it's designed to suck up water, and is used to wash down marine
>> fittings to get the salt water off them, preparatory to painting and
>> other protectants being applied. If you spray down a steel tube with
>> it and leave it sit, it will suck up humidity from the air and put
>> that water into proximity with the metal surface, promoting
>> oxidation. You're supposed to use WD40 to wash away grease and water
>> (wash the crud off stuff) then you spray a sticky, NON-hygroscopic


> Not the stuff they sell as WD-40 here:
> 
> http://www.wd40.com.au/WD-40.html

Same formulation everywhere, Rob... 

Experience shows it is NOT much of a lube. It has no extreme film properties, 
if you need to prevent rubbing or rolling contact, but sliding is not bad, if 
you keep the film moist.

It WILL "dry out" which means the volatile carrier eventually goes evaporates, 
leaving a waxy, sticky, varnish-y residue, which has practically no 
advantageous properties except to stick things together.

LONG time users who swear to using nothing but WD-40 exclusively finally admit 
to re-spraying their "protected" parts frequently, to maintain whatever 
protection they claim works for them.
Used that way, it works. Sort of...

Of course, used that way, it also keeps the environmental moisture away, and 
"works as advertised!"

Don't count on it as a universal butt-saving, all purpose cleaner & lube, and 
you'll probably be happy with it.

keith whaley

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Re: OT - a little late on the bicycle thing...

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Aug 13, 2007, at 4:53 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote:

> Not the stuff they sell as WD-40 here:
>
> http://www.wd40.com.au/WD-40.html

Sorry, but it's exactly that stuff. I have made a lot of money in the  
past fixing things that people "protected" with it. It was never  
designed to be a surface sealant: it was designed to be a penetrant  
and carrier to displace water, but it is hygroscopic in that function.

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Re: OT - a little late on the bicycle thing...

[Digital Image Studio]

On 14/08/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Aug 13, 2007, at 2:48 PM, frank theriault wrote:
>
> > Around here, spraying WD 40, or some thinnish oil that "creeps" works.
> > Spray down the seat tube, take off the headset and spray both the top
> > and down tubes, and to be safe, while you've to the BB out, spray up
> > the seat and down tubes.  That should work.
>
> Beware: Spraying WD40 on steel or aluminum surfaces *promotes* rust.
>
> WD40 is a water dispersal developed for the navy ... the name comes
> from "water dispersal formulation #40". As such, it is hygroscopic:
> it's designed to suck up water, and is used to wash down marine
> fittings to get the salt water off them, preparatory to painting and
> other protectants being applied. If you spray down a steel tube with
> it and leave it sit, it will suck up humidity from the air and put
> that water into proximity with the metal surface, promoting
> oxidation. You're supposed to use WD40 to wash away grease and water
> (wash the crud off stuff) then you spray a sticky, NON-hygroscopic
> sealant on the surface to keep moisture and oxygen away from it.

Not the stuff they sell as WD-40 here:

http://www.wd40.com.au/WD-40.html


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PESO 2007 - 34b, 34c - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Two somewhat eclectic photos, from unrelated series ...

   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/34b.htm
   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/34c.htm

Comments, critique, etc always appreciated.

enjoy
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Re: 300mm 2.8 AF: Sigma vs Pentax

[Doug Franklin]

William Robb wrote:

> Which 300/4.5 do I have? It must be the F. Mine has a tripod mount, and is 
> wonderfully small, smaller than my FA200/4 macro.

If you've got the tripod mount, you've got the F* rather than the FA*.
I wish I had an FA* 200/4 Macro to compare it to, but it's definitely
smaller than the FA* 200/2.8.

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Re: 300mm 2.8 AF: Sigma vs Pentax

[syb vis]

He's dead [Syb]


So. Do I need a lawyer? CAN ANYONE TELL ME MY RIGHTS???

sorry. thanks.

Syb


2007/8/14, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "syb vis"
> Subject: Re: 300mm 2.8 AF: Sigma vs Pentax
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>
> > Is there anything I could do?
> >
> > Or has the damage been done!?
>
> The damage was done years ago.
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Re: OT: To our Londoners

[Gianfranco Irlanda]

Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That depends if her boyfriend will be coming along or not.

I'm quite sure he won't...
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Re: 300mm 2.8 AF: Sigma vs Pentax

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "syb vis" 
Subject: Re: 300mm 2.8 AF: Sigma vs Pentax


> Is there anything I could do?
> 
> Or has the damage been done!?

The damage was done years ago.

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Re: OT - a little late on the bicycle thing...

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Aug 13, 2007, at 2:48 PM, frank theriault wrote:

> Around here, spraying WD 40, or some thinnish oil that "creeps" works.
> Spray down the seat tube, take off the headset and spray both the top
> and down tubes, and to be safe, while you've to the BB out, spray up
> the seat and down tubes.  That should work.

Beware: Spraying WD40 on steel or aluminum surfaces *promotes* rust.

WD40 is a water dispersal developed for the navy ... the name comes  
from "water dispersal formulation #40". As such, it is hygroscopic:  
it's designed to suck up water, and is used to wash down marine  
fittings to get the salt water off them, preparatory to painting and  
other protectants being applied. If you spray down a steel tube with  
it and leave it sit, it will suck up humidity from the air and put  
that water into proximity with the metal surface, promoting  
oxidation. You're supposed to use WD40 to wash away grease and water  
(wash the crud off stuff) then you spray a sticky, NON-hygroscopic  
sealant on the surface to keep moisture and oxygen away from it.

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Re: 300mm 2.8 AF: Sigma vs Pentax

[P. J. Alling]

He's dead [Syb]


syb vis wrote:
> Is there anything I could do?
>
> Or has the damage been done!?
>
> Syb
>
> 2007/8/14, Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>   
>> You're beyond help.  God helps those who help themselves.  :)
>>
>> On 8/12/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "syb vis"
>>> Subject: 300mm 2.8 AF: Sigma vs Pentax
>>>
>>>
>>>   
 I really love the 300mm (actually 450mm) focus distance on a dslr.


 
>>> AAAGH!
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Re: 300mm 2.8 AF: Sigma vs Pentax

[syb vis]

Is there anything I could do?

Or has the damage been done!?

Syb

2007/8/14, Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> You're beyond help.  God helps those who help themselves.  :)
>
> On 8/12/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > - Original Message -
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> > Subject: 300mm 2.8 AF: Sigma vs Pentax
> >
> >
> > >I really love the 300mm (actually 450mm) focus distance on a dslr.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > AAAGH!
> > help me
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Re: 300mm 2.8 AF: Sigma vs Pentax

[Cotty]

On 13/08/07, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

>You forgot an H

As in APS-H ?

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Re: 300mm 2.8 AF: Sigma vs Pentax

[Jack Davis]

FSR, I don't think he intended, "HA".(?) ;))

Jack
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> >
> >
> > >I really love the 300mm (actually 450mm) focus distance on a dslr.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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Re: any PDMLers in Madrid or Seville?

[Jaume Lahuerta]

Opps...I live in Barcelona, although I go to Madrid from time to time (normally 
for a one day trip). I still don't know about these dates though.
Anyway, let me know if you need first hand information about any of these 
cities. Apart from what I may know for myself, I also know people living there.

Regards,
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Asunto: any PDMLers in Madrid or Seville?

Nate and I will be in Madrid and Seville the 2nd week of October. Does
anyone on the list live in either of those cities?

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Re: 300mm 2.8 AF: Sigma vs Pentax

[Gonz]

You're beyond help.  God helps those who help themselves.  :)

On 8/12/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Subject: 300mm 2.8 AF: Sigma vs Pentax
>
>
> >I really love the 300mm (actually 450mm) focus distance on a dslr.
> >
> >
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> AAAGH!
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Re: PESO: Desmoquattro

[John Whittingham]

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 14:26:14 -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote
> On Aug 13, 2007, at 11:28 AM, John Whittingham wrote:
> 
> > Do you by any chance know Tom Rolland then?
> 
> Oh yes, I've known Tom Rolland for a decade or more. He used to be 
> on  my euro-moto list, but I think he is on the bevelheads list only 
> now.  I've been the admin/owner for the euro-moto list since about 
> 1998. :-)

I thought you might, 750 GT's and all. I'm on the bevelheads myself, sold Tom 
some old 750 Sport spares recently, dropped them off with a relative of his 
just up the road from me in Ormskirk..it's a small world.
> 
> > The Desmoquattro can be a little daunting to service but I rely on  
> > 30+ years
> > of servicing the older Desmos. I'm looking for a spare pair of  
> > cylinder heads
> > at present so I can change heads for a freshened set at the belt  
> > change
> > interval (2 years).
> 
> Hmm. That seems an expensive way to do it. Given that they really  
> need so very little maintenance, it would make more sense to me to  
> just pull the heads and check the clearances/condition of the split  
> rings every 20K miles or so. Unless you're racing...

I'm not sure about the previous owners maintenance, although it did have a 
full dealer srvice history. When I got the bike the clutch was the worst I've 
ever seen, the flywheel was loose on the crank, the rear wheel bearings were 
shot.etc. But it was cheap and serviceable. I've not pulled the 
heads yet, I've got a complete set of s/h rockers in excellent condition, 
just in case. I like having a few spares around! You're right though, when 
the clearences are set properly they last a good while.
> 
> I always did my own maintenance on all my motorcycles. Funny: the 
> "oh  so difficult" to maintain Ducati desmo valvegear was always the 
> least  amount of work to service...

I'd agree there, never really had much of a problem myself, had more trouble 
with the sockets of spring heads splitting around the ball adjusters. 

Regards,

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Re: ebay never ceases to astound me.

[P. J. Alling]

I didn't notice the Japan location.  I might be cheaper to pay import 
duties on it than their VAT.  Though that seems odd to say the least.

Brian Walters wrote:
> The interesting thing is that the buyer seems to be located in Japan.  Are 
> these lenses really going to be more expensive in Japan than in the US?
>
>
>
> Cheers
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>> These are available at B&H Photo for about $50 less, and they're in
>>
>> stock right now...
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBUAA:US:11&Item=120149106273
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Re: OT - a little late on the bicycle thing...

[frank theriault]

On 8/13/07, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>

> I've read good things about the quality of mid'80s Japanese lugged steel
> frames.  How can I tell if it is rusting on the inside?  Just take the
> seat post out and look inside?

I'm sure it's very good quality.

You take out the seatpost and rub your finger inside, below the lowest
point of the post - a bit of rust on your finger is okay, but if you
should be able to feel smooth, cold steel in there.  If you feel
bubbling and blisters, you may have a problem.  If it's been garaged
all these years, you're unlikely to have a problem.

Around here, spraying WD 40, or some thinnish oil that "creeps" works.
 Spray down the seat tube, take off the headset and spray both the top
and down tubes, and to be safe, while you've to the BB out, spray up
the seat and down tubes.  That should work.

Other than checking the inside, if you tap along the tubes, you'll
hear a nice "ring" if they're healthy, it will be a dull thud if
they're rusting.  You'll also see (in the latter stages) bubbling and
blistering of the paint from the inside out.  Probably too late to
save the tube by then - you'll know to replace if before it severs at
some inopportune time...

And, if you don't spend a lot of time in the snow or rain, it's
unlikely to be an issue at all...

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RE: OT - a little late on the bicycle thing...

[Bob W]

Actually I just found some advice about this here:
http://www.vintage-trek.com/refurbish.htm

Search the page for 'rust'. Basically it says remove the bottom
bracket and look at the bb shell and tubes.

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> 
> > 
> > I've read good things about the quality of mid'80s Japanese 
> > lugged steel 
> > frames.  How can I tell if it is rusting on the inside?  Just 
> > take the 
> > seat post out and look inside?
> > 
> 
> I don't know - your lbs may be able to help you find out. But 
> if it's been kept in a dry garage all that time it should be 
> ok. If it is, you can spray some rust-proofing treatment 
> inside it to keep it that way.
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Re: ebay never ceases to astound me.

[Brian Walters]

The interesting thing is that the buyer seems to be located in Japan.  Are 
these lenses really going to be more expensive in Japan than in the US?



Cheers

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> 
> stock right now...
> 
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Re: OT - a little late on the bicycle thing...

[John Francis]

On Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 02:52:39PM -0400, frank theriault wrote:
> 
> A vintage '80's steed.
> 
> And, yeah, upgrading the brakes is a very good idea.  Up to the 80's,
> brakes pretty much sucked...

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Re: 300mm 2.8 AF: Sigma vs Pentax

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "David J Brooks" 
Subject: Re: 300mm 2.8 AF: Sigma vs Pentax


> On 8/12/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> You forgot an H

H.

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Re: PESO - Accidental

[John Sessoms]

From:
Christian
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> In a message dated 8/9/2007 6:50:33 P.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>> I found this guy in my  backyard
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/36h4fp
> ===
> He has a band on, does  that mean he's an escaped pet? Or just banded? 
> (Maybe
> to track  populations/migrations?)
>
> Now makes me curious, how often do you see  banded birds?
>
> I see a ton of banded wild birds.  I'd suggest that this little 
> budgie's (parakeet to Americans) band is from the owner or the pet 
> shop/breeder.  I'd "assume" that if a birder or Natural Resources 
> biologist caught the little guy they wouldn't release it back into the 
> wild (and I know some birders that would destroy it on sight!).  These 
> guys have - unfortunately - established sustainable breeding colonies 
> in Florida and other parts of the South.
>
I think the original post indicated the backyard is somewhere in 
Maryland, so I expect it IS an escaped house pet. The band is likely for 
identification especially so a lost pet can be returned.
 
However, there was a parrot native to North America, the Carolina Parakeet.


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Re: PESO: Desmoquattro

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Aug 13, 2007, at 11:28 AM, John Whittingham wrote:

> Do you by any chance know Tom Rolland then?

Oh yes, I've known Tom Rolland for a decade or more. He used to be on  
my euro-moto list, but I think he is on the bevelheads list only now.  
I've been the admin/owner for the euro-moto list since about 1998. :-)

> The Desmoquattro can be a little daunting to service but I rely on  
> 30+ years
> of servicing the older Desmos. I'm looking for a spare pair of  
> cylinder heads
> at present so I can change heads for a freshened set at the belt  
> change
> interval (2 years).

Hmm. That seems an expensive way to do it. Given that they really  
need so very little maintenance, it would make more sense to me to  
just pull the heads and check the clearances/condition of the split  
rings every 20K miles or so. Unless you're racing...

I always did my own maintenance on all my motorcycles. Funny: the "oh  
so difficult" to maintain Ducati desmo valvegear was always the least  
amount of work to service...

Godfrey

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RE: OT - a little late on the bicycle thing...

[Bob W]

> 
> I've read good things about the quality of mid'80s Japanese 
> lugged steel 
> frames.  How can I tell if it is rusting on the inside?  Just 
> take the 
> seat post out and look inside?
> 

I don't know - your lbs may be able to help you find out. But if it's
been kept in a dry garage all that time it should be ok. If it is, you
can spray some rust-proofing treatment inside it to keep it that way.

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Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF

[John Sessoms]

From:
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> On 13/08/07, Thibouille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> > Joe, I seem to remember (may be wrong of course) that FA* where hand 
>> > assembled.
>> > If I'm right, it might explain why Pentax won't assemble them all just
>> > for the fun of it.
>> 
> They must have one guy sitting in a back room waiting for individual
> long lens order to pop into his "build one now" pigeon-hole, but
> somehow I don't think so.
More likely the "build one now" pigeon-hole sits there until an order 
comes in. Then they pull the guy who used to build 'em  away from his 
regular work just long enough for him to fulfill the order.

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Re: 300mm 2.8 AF: Sigma vs Pentax

[David J Brooks]

On 8/12/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> - Original Message -
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> Subject: 300mm 2.8 AF: Sigma vs Pentax
>
>
> >I really love the 300mm (actually 450mm) focus distance on a dslr.
> >
> >
>
> AAAGH!
> help me

You forgot an H

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Re: OT - a little late on the bicycle thing...

[Christian]

frank theriault wrote:
> On 8/13/07, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Looks like quite a nice bike. Looks like a lugged steel frame - it'll
>> probably last forever.
> 
> It could.  In countries and areas like Canada that salt in the winter,
> one must be very careful to oil the inside of the tubes at least once
> a year to prevent tubes from the inside out (happened to me, while I
> was riding, twice - not a fun feeling to have a tube break whilst in
> the saddle).  Even then, with lugged steel frames, a new tube can be
> put in, and you're on your way.


I've read good things about the quality of mid'80s Japanese lugged steel 
frames.  How can I tell if it is rusting on the inside?  Just take the 
seat post out and look inside?

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Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF

[Christian]

> On 8/12/07, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> And no there aren't kangaroos hopping though the main streets of Sydney ;-0

Canberra on the other hand.

I told my eldest daughter that we could see "kangaroos hopping down the 
street" when we visited Oz.  I just didn't say in which city.

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Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF

[syb vis]

I agree. This time. But Frits, in the future please do not offer
apologies on my behalf without me knowing it!

:-)

Syb

2007/8/13, Frits Wüthrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On behalf of the entire Dutch population, I offer my sincere aplolgies.
>
> On Monday 13 August 2007 00:49, Bob W wrote:
> > How very inconsiderate of the Dutch to put them where the wind is so
> > strong.
> >
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> > > -Original Message-
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> > >
> > > For your own safety: Better not! Check 4th paragraph on
> > >
> > > http://syarifbudhiman.wordpress.com/2007/07/19/kinderdijk/
> > >
> > > Uhm, what? No kangaroos in Sydney's main streets? Darn, i'll have to
> > > cancel my vacation then...
> > >
> > > Syb
> > >
> > > 2007/8/13, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > On 13/08/07, syb vis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > You know, this is the Netherlands. We cannot look far enough to
> > > > > motivate the purchase of a 600mm lens. A 300mm, on the
> > >
> > > other hand...?
> > >
> > > > Climb up a windmill ;-)
> > > >
> > > > And no there aren't kangaroos hopping though the main
> > >
> > > streets of Sydney ;-0
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Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF

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On 8/12/07, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 13/08/07, syb vis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > You know, this is the Netherlands. We cannot look far enough to
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>
> Climb up a windmill ;-)
>
> And no there aren't kangaroos hopping though the main streets of Sydney ;-0

You should hear what people think we have in our street in Canada.:-)

Dave
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Re: ebay never ceases to astound me.

[David J Brooks]

I paid $699 Canadian for mine, but a store in London Ontario, Camera
Canada, had them listed for $969, io think, it was over 900 anyway.

I hope thats a typo.

Dave

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Re: OT - a little late on the bicycle thing...

[frank theriault]

On 8/13/07, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 to prevent tubes from the inside out

That should have been, "...to prevent tubes from ~rusting~ from the
inside out..."


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Re: OT - a little late on the bicycle thing...

[frank theriault]

On 8/13/07, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Looks like quite a nice bike. Looks like a lugged steel frame - it'll
> probably last forever.

It could.  In countries and areas like Canada that salt in the winter,
one must be very careful to oil the inside of the tubes at least once
a year to prevent tubes from the inside out (happened to me, while I
was riding, twice - not a fun feeling to have a tube break whilst in
the saddle).  Even then, with lugged steel frames, a new tube can be
put in, and you're on your way.

They literally can last forever, but at what point (after how many
tubes have been replaced) is it no longer the same frame/bike?

> The seat angle makes me think of a little village in S E Asia that you
> may experience if you spend too much time in the saddle - Numh Coc.



;-0

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Re: OT Lost 5 gig somewere

[David J Brooks]

On 8/13/07, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>
> >Boot up the system on the Mac OS X installation dvd/cd. When the
> >installer comes up, go to the tools menu and elect Disk Utility. Once
> >that's up, select the startup volume and run a disk verify.
> >Afterwards restart the system from the hard disk and check...  It is
> >possible you have a bit of file system corruption and the system
> >thinks there's more data on the drive than there actually is.
> >
> >If that doesn't do it, go into iPhoto and see if what you put in its
> >trash has actually been deleted.
>
> And if *that* doesn't work, just reformat the hard drive and re-install
> everything.

I;m not ready to fly that plane solo.:-)

Dave

> If you need assistance Frank will help you ;-)

Frank who.:-0

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RE: OT - a little late on the bicycle thing...

[Bob W]

Looks like quite a nice bike. Looks like a lugged steel frame - it'll
probably last forever. 

The seat angle makes me think of a little village in S E Asia that you
may experience if you spend too much time in the saddle - Numh Coc.
 
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Christian
> Sent: 13 August 2007 18:43
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: OT - a little late on the bicycle thing...
> 
> I decided to do more road biking rather than mountain biking and was

> looking for a "new" bike.  Then I had the big DUH! moment 
> when I saw the 
> old Takara Deluxe Touring 12 speed hanging in my parents' 
> garage.  They 
> gave it to me on my 16th birthday in 1984.  New tires (the 
> old ones were 
> 23 years old and dry rotted), tubes, bar wraps, clip-on pedals, a
few 
> adjustments and it is mostly road-worthy.
> 
> I'll probably tear down the bottom bracket and clean it up a 
> bit more. 
> The shifting is pretty smooth but the brakes are crap and need some 
> adjustments.  I've done some decent (for me) distance with 
> it, on nice, 
> smooth, flat Delaware roads.
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/yqgu3q
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RE: To our Londoners

[Bob W]

What an offer! Unfortunately I can't as I have to be at work all day
long, and it's too late to book time off.

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> Sent: 13 August 2007 13:35
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> Subject: OT: To our Londoners
> 
> Hi everybody!
> 
> Eleonora, a dear friend of mine, is coming to London tomorrow.
> She's going to meet her boyfriend (well, sort of...), who she
> will be able to see just off work.
> She is a art historian, and spends half of the year in India (at
> least for the last two years she did so...)
> During daytime she'll be visiting London, if there's anybody of
> our fellow London PDMLers willing to meet her for a
> coffee/drink/lunch or just to have a chat, even Pentax related
> (she uses a *ist DS...) let me know.
> 
> 
> Ciao,
> 
> Gianfranco
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Re: OT - a little late on the bicycle thing...

[Cotty]

On 13/08/07, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I decided to do more road biking rather than mountain biking and was 
>looking for a "new" bike.  Then I had the big DUH! moment when I saw the 
>old Takara Deluxe Touring 12 speed hanging in my parents' garage.  They 
>gave it to me on my 16th birthday in 1984.  New tires (the old ones were 
>23 years old and dry rotted), tubes, bar wraps, clip-on pedals, a few 
>adjustments and it is mostly road-worthy.

Waddya think, leave the training wheels on for a bit longer or are you
feeling adventurous?

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Re: OT - a little late on the bicycle thing...

[frank theriault]

On 8/13/07, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I decided to do more road biking rather than mountain biking and was
> looking for a "new" bike.  Then I had the big DUH! moment when I saw the
> old Takara Deluxe Touring 12 speed hanging in my parents' garage.  They
> gave it to me on my 16th birthday in 1984.  New tires (the old ones were
> 23 years old and dry rotted), tubes, bar wraps, clip-on pedals, a few
> adjustments and it is mostly road-worthy.
>
> I'll probably tear down the bottom bracket and clean it up a bit more.
> The shifting is pretty smooth but the brakes are crap and need some
> adjustments.  I've done some decent (for me) distance with it, on nice,
> smooth, flat Delaware roads.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yqgu3q
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Point that saddle down, or you'll be singing soprano in no time...

;-)

A vintage '80's steed.

And, yeah, upgrading the brakes is a very good idea.  Up to the 80's,
brakes pretty much sucked...

Have fun!

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Re: 300mm 2.8 AF: Sigma vs Pentax

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Kenneth Waller"
Subject: Re: 300mm 2.8 AF: Sigma vs Pentax


> FWIW -
>
> I have the FA 300mm f4.5, Its a wonderful lens even if it doesn't have a
> tripod mount.
>
> Unless you absolutely, positively need the extra light a 2.8 aperture
> provides, I find it very hard to justify the extra cost of the 2.8 300mm
> over the 4.5 300mm.

Which 300/4.5 do I have? It must be the F. Mine has a tripod mount, and is 
wonderfully small, smaller than my FA200/4 macro.

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Re: PESO: Desmoquattro

[John Whittingham]

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:11:59 -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote
> On Aug 12, 2007, at 9:18 AM, John Whittingham wrote:
> 
> > Just a quick shot with the Sigma 10-20, lazy Sunday afternoon here  
> > in the UK.
> > Can't stop playing with this lens, had it over a week now.
> >
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6300183&size=lg
> 
> I knew I liked you. ;-) Lovely bike.

Thanks

> 
> I rode Ducati motorcycles for nearly 20 years. 250 Mark III, 750GT,  
> 750 Sport, 907IE, 900SS, E900 ... the desmoquattro models were a  
> little beyond what I wanted, although I had the pleasure of riding  
> several of them. I had three of the 750GTs, all told, and put 75,000 
>  miles on one of them. The last of them I built up from a neglected  
> rust heap, it remains one of my all time favorite motorcycles.

Oh now we're talking. First bike was a 750 Sport back in 1975, bought a 900SS 
in 1980, new. I've had a couple of 860 GT's (ugly, but comfortable) and a 
Darmah. The 750 is/was a rolling piece of automotive 
sculpture.beautiful!!

Do you by any chance know Tom Rolland then?

The Desmoquattro can be a little daunting to service but I rely on 30+ years 
of servicing the older Desmos. I'm looking for a spare pair of cylinder heads 
at present so I can change heads for a freshened set at the belt change 
interval (2 years).

> 
> In the last decade of my riding history, I switched to Moto Guzzis 
> as  the modern Ducatis became a little more narrowly focused than I  
> preferred. But I still love the Bolognese Bikes, and was quite taken 
>  with the latest Sport Classic when I saw one a few weeks ago... Now 
>  that's my kind of ride.

Yep, lovely piece of kit, wish I could afford one.

Regards,

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Re: PESO: Desmoquattro

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On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:50:35 -0400, frank theriault wrote
> On 8/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Now there's a pic worthy of the scroll. Beautiful bike. Nice to get a 
good look at all the hardware bits.
> 
> I agree with Paul!
> 
> cheers,
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Thanks Frank.

Regards,

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Re: PESO 2007 - 34a - GDG

[frank theriault]

On 8/13/07, Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Presumably a survey marker - brings back memories
>
> Simple but effective.

Yes.

Simple but effective...

Like it!

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ebay never ceases to astound me.

[P. J. Alling]

These are available at B&H Photo for about $50 less, and they're in 
stock right now...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBUAA:US:11&Item=120149106273

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Re: Moving Up to MF: 67 or 645? Or something else?

[Gasha]

I'm shooting with P645 for 2 years.
It is great camera.

You can easy take it with you on long trips:
built in meter is very accurate
camera is weather proof, works even at -10 degrees C.
35mm/3.5 lens is fantastic (got mine from KEH, $340)
Flash photography is ok with 1/60s.
In short - it works like regular 35mm/DSLR, and even more.

(if you install rechargeable AA batteries, then very long exposures are 
possible)

OTOH - with P67 i would take my DSLR with me... for metering and test shots.


If you have enough money - get both P645 and P67 :

Gasha

David Bliss wrote:
> So I'm growing increasingly frustrated with 35mm and APS-C digital.
> 
> Solutoin: medium format.  But what?
> 
> Hasselblad makes the sexiest gear I've ever seen.  But I can't afford it even
> used.
> 
> I like the larger negative area of the Pentax 67 -- after all, isn't neg
> area the name of the game?  But I HATE the look of the camera.  It sounds like
> it requires a tripod bigger than God and MLU for every shot.  Flash sync sucks
> at only 1/30.   No hotshoe for my level.  
> Pluses: waist-level finder (apparently not a great one).
> 
> 
> 645: 
> less neg.
> fixed prism -- no WL finder
> 
> looks more like a hassy :)
> data imprinting (a must) 
> less need for mlu/tripods/etc
> focus confirm on manual lenses
> uses 67 lenses
> Maybe a 645D in the future -- yeah right.
> 
> So:
> 
> Which should I get? Is the cost in image size worth all the other benefits
> of the 645?  Or should i skip MF and go straight to a 4x5 view camera?
> 
> Or should I go to a 6x6 view camera with the idea of robbing a bank for a 
> digital back?
> 
> But only P67/P645 will play with my existing bodies...
> 
> Any ideas, thoughts, suggestions, or tips appreciated.
> 
> I really wanted a waist-level finder...
> 
> 
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OT - a little late on the bicycle thing...

[Christian]

I decided to do more road biking rather than mountain biking and was 
looking for a "new" bike.  Then I had the big DUH! moment when I saw the 
old Takara Deluxe Touring 12 speed hanging in my parents' garage.  They 
gave it to me on my 16th birthday in 1984.  New tires (the old ones were 
23 years old and dry rotted), tubes, bar wraps, clip-on pedals, a few 
adjustments and it is mostly road-worthy.

I'll probably tear down the bottom bracket and clean it up a bit more. 
The shifting is pretty smooth but the brakes are crap and need some 
adjustments.  I've done some decent (for me) distance with it, on nice, 
smooth, flat Delaware roads.

http://tinyurl.com/yqgu3q
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Re: PESO: Desmoquattro

[frank theriault]

On 8/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Now there's a pic worthy of the scroll. Beautiful bike. Nice to get a good 
> look at all the hardware bits.

I agree with Paul!

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Re: Peddling Inspiration

[frank theriault]

On 8/12/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Cool, it's started ... I'll have to go buy a copy now...
> ];-)


Can you send me an autographed copy?

;-)

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Re: 300mm 2.8 AF: Sigma vs Pentax

[Kenneth Waller]

FWIW -

I have the FA 300mm f4.5, Its a wonderful lens even if it doesn't have a 
tripod mount.

Unless you absolutely, positively need the extra light a 2.8 aperture 
provides, I find it very hard to justify the extra cost of the 2.8 300mm 
over the 4.5 300mm.

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: re: 300mm 2.8 AF: Sigma vs Pentax


> From:
> "syb vis"
>> I really love the 300mm (actually 450mm) focus distance on a dslr.
>>
>> But which one is better value for money? The 300mm F2.8 Autofocus by
>> Sigma or by Pentax?
>> Or can i stick to my smc tak 300/4 m42-mount with m42-pk-adaptall? (I
>> have already bought that one, so that will not be very expensive any
>> more...)
> The Sigma 300 f/2.8 [PKAF mount] is an excellent lens, giving good value
> for the price.
>
> I have one, and it cost me less than half the quoted price for the
> Pentax FA-300 f/2.8. A moot point actually, because at the time I bought
> the Sigma lens, no one I could find had the Pentax FA-300 f/2.8 lens in
> stock or was able to order it. I took what I could get.
>
> One drawback to the Sigma lens ... since it's not a Pentax lens, you
> won't be able to submit photos taken with it to the Pentax Gallery, even
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Re: 300mm 2.8 AF: Sigma vs Pentax

[Igor Roshchin]

Mon Aug 13 03:06:07 EDT 2007
Cotty wrote:

> On 12/8/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >A
> >A
> >A
> >A
> >AAAGG
> >G
> >G
> >G
> >G
> >GGGHH
> >H
> >H
> >H
> >H
> >HHH!!
> >!
> >!!
> >help me
> 
> To help this man, please send your old, outdated lenses to:
> 
> 
> 1.6 Crop Factor Road
> Small Sensor
> Canada
> CCD 1.5X

 
 
Cotty, what crop factor did you use to obtain this [quasi] hex-dump
of what he said?

Igor


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Re: PESO: Feasting in North Carolina

[frank theriault]

On 8/11/07, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Nice one!

It is a nice one!

What the hell's Brooks doing?  Did you guys move the beer coolers?

;-)

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Re: PESO - Sk8tr - The Sequel

[Kenneth Waller]

I'll vote for the original crop.
The second attempt contains elements that are distracting to me

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- Original Message - 
From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PESO - Sk8tr - The Sequel


> My first attempt at dealing with this rather difficult exposure
> situation was so embarrassing, I shudder when I look at it.
>
> Here's another (I think more successful) attempt:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/39a6gq
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RsBXBrMIuRI/AkY/dj8ARi2eVvE/s1600-h/aug_13+005.jpg
>
> For comparison, here's the original:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/22mplu
>
> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RrS6XLMIt4I/AhQ/hV-8FRtnsFc/s1600-h/sk8r.jpg
>
> As you see, I also tried a different crop.
>
> Any thoughts?  Same old same old, or do you think it's an improvement?
> Am I at least on the right path here?
>
> thanks for your thoughts,
> frank
>
>
>
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Re: PESO: Desmoquattro

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Aug 12, 2007, at 9:18 AM, John Whittingham wrote:

> Just a quick shot with the Sigma 10-20, lazy Sunday afternoon here  
> in the UK.
> Can't stop playing with this lens, had it over a week now.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6300183&size=lg

I knew I liked you. ;-) Lovely bike.

I rode Ducati motorcycles for nearly 20 years. 250 Mark III, 750GT,  
750 Sport, 907IE, 900SS, E900 ... the desmoquattro models were a  
little beyond what I wanted, although I had the pleasure of riding  
several of them. I had three of the 750GTs, all told, and put 75,000  
miles on one of them. The last of them I built up from a neglected  
rust heap, it remains one of my all time favorite motorcycles.

In the last decade of my riding history, I switched to Moto Guzzis as  
the modern Ducatis became a little more narrowly focused than I  
preferred. But I still love the Bolognese Bikes, and was quite taken  
with the latest Sport Classic when I saw one a few weeks ago... Now  
that's my kind of ride.

Godfrey

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Re: OT Lost 5 gig somewere

[Mark Roberts]

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

>Boot up the system on the Mac OS X installation dvd/cd. When the  
>installer comes up, go to the tools menu and elect Disk Utility. Once  
>that's up, select the startup volume and run a disk verify.  
>Afterwards restart the system from the hard disk and check...  It is  
>possible you have a bit of file system corruption and the system  
>thinks there's more data on the drive than there actually is.
>
>If that doesn't do it, go into iPhoto and see if what you put in its  
>trash has actually been deleted.

And if *that* doesn't work, just reformat the hard drive and re-install 
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Re: Dream Cruise Gallery Show

[pnstenquist]

I'll do that. I think they're all on my photo.net site. I'll be back with a 
list.
Paul
 -- Original message --
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> Sounds like an interesting exhibit, Paul. Are you going to host the  
> photos on-line so we can see what you're showing?
> 
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Re: PESO: Monhegen Flowers

[Kenneth Waller]

An  improvement would be a less distinct background.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PESO: Monhegen Flowers


> This is close to being really nice.  I think the issue for me is that
> there are enough flowers to perhaps look for some order or pattern,
> but I couldn't find it - just seemed a little jumbled.  There are not
> quite enough flowers to make it look like a field.
> 
> I hope I am making sense - just a few less flowers and perhaps a
> better angle to present them so my eyes don't wander all over.
> 
> -- 
> Bruce
> 
> 
> Sunday, August 12, 2007, 2:43:07 PM, you wrote:
> 
> JG> Here is the first of a series I photographed the past few days.   
> JG> Comments are solicited but may be ignored..Wellmaybe
> 
> JG> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jhg2/
> 
> JG> John G.


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Re: Dream Cruise Gallery Show

[frank theriault]

On 8/11/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My dream cruise gallery show opened tonight at Zoom Gallery in
> Birmingham, Michigan. We hung seven 12 x 18 prints and have one in
> reserve. Two are on easels in the front window, so I'm rather
> pleased. I'll be there next Friday — the day before the dream cruise
> — from seven to ten or so.

Congrats, Paul.

Wish I could be there to see it!

I know it will be a great success!

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Re: Test

[Tom C]

LOL.  I haven't been able to post msgs since some time last week.  It may 
have been switching to the new version of hotmail.  Switched back now.


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Re: PESO: Desmoquattro

[John Whittingham]

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:33:16 -0400, Mat Maessen wrote
> On 8/12/07, John Whittingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Just a quick shot with the Sigma 10-20, lazy Sunday afternoon here in the 
UK.
> > Can't stop playing with this lens, had it over a week now.
> >
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6300183&size=lg
> 
> m Ducati drool
> 
> I'm sorry, what was that you were saying about a lens? :-)
> 
> -Mat

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Re: OT: To our Londoners

[P. J. Alling]

I'd love to if I were in London, but I'm not...

Gianfranco Irlanda wrote:
> Hi everybody!
>
> Eleonora, a dear friend of mine, is coming to London tomorrow.
> She's going to meet her boyfriend (well, sort of...), who she
> will be able to see just off work.
> She is a art historian, and spends half of the year in India (at
> least for the last two years she did so...)
> During daytime she'll be visiting London, if there's anybody of
> our fellow London PDMLers willing to meet her for a
> coffee/drink/lunch or just to have a chat, even Pentax related
> (she uses a *ist DS...) let me know.
>
>
> Ciao,
>
> Gianfranco
>
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>
>
>
> 
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Re: Test

[P. J. Alling]

I can't help it, the dog ate my homework.

Tom C wrote:
> Thiis is a Test.  You've all failed.
>
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Re: OT USA warranty outside of US

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Aug 13, 2007, at 9:01 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

> As for the track record for Nikon 18-200 VR - it's been on the
> market for about a year now. Not enough for conclusive results, but..
> If there haven't been much problems observed, that's already a good  
> sign.

I know four people who have this lens. All are at least satisfied  
with it so far.

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Re: Test

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
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Subject: Test


> Thiis is a Test.  You've all failed.
> 

At least we didn't fail spelling.
HAR

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Re: PESO - Belting Out a Tune

[David J Brooks]

Good one Frank.

The mike is there but you can see wnough of her mouth to make it out.

Like the "relaxed" look of the bass player.

Dave

On 8/13/07, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Another one of Toronto blues/jazz singer Laura Hubert:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2u24t3
>
> http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RsBUzbMIuPI/AkI/iuH5eVvnBp4/s1600-h/aug_13+004.jpg
>
> Comments always welcome.
>
> Thanks,
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Test

[Tom C]

Thiis is a Test.  You've all failed.


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Re: Dream Cruise Gallery Show

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "ann sanfedele"
Subject: Re: Dream Cruise Gallery Show


> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>
>>Thanks Ann. The Dream Cruise is the world's largest one-day
>>automotive event -- 50,000 cars and more than a million spectators. I
>>hung a variety of shots that hopefully suggest the flavor of the
>>event. However, they cost a lot more than t-shirts, and the cruise
>>crowd doesn't include a lot of folks who frequent art galleries. I'll
>>be happy if I sell one or two. But it's fun.
>>Paul
>>On Aug 12, 2007, at 11:13 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
>>
>
> oh right! I remember now (oh, sure) - it was the dreaded word "cruise"
> and its association with
> ships that made me recoil ;) I love them old autos.
>

We get a Detroit TV station as part of out cable package. They are 
advetising a Dream Cruis special on Saturday. I'll see if I can remember to 
watch it, perhaps see a familiar face or two.

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Re: OT Lost 5 gig somewere

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Boot up the system on the Mac OS X installation dvd/cd. When the  
installer comes up, go to the tools menu and elect Disk Utility. Once  
that's up, select the startup volume and run a disk verify.  
Afterwards restart the system from the hard disk and check...  It is  
possible you have a bit of file system corruption and the system  
thinks there's more data on the drive than there actually is.

If that doesn't do it, go into iPhoto and see if what you put in its  
trash has actually been deleted.

Godfrey

On Aug 13, 2007, at 4:58 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

> Only other thing i can remember is i was sending a lot of items from
> iphoto to the trash, and i grabed 5500 items and sent them to the
> desktop by mistake. I then sent them to the trash, and thats when i
> noticed the big difference the next morning.,
>
> I have deleted all the trash.
>
> Could that have been it.??
>
> Dave
>
> On 8/12/07, Steve Sharpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> At 6:25 PM -0400 8/12/07, David J Brooks wrote:
>>> Funny thing happened on the way to the forum.:-)
>>>
>>> Used my Mac on Friday and Saturday to check email and post 1  
>>> Peso. All
>>> the while the finder window was showing 11.06 Gig.
>>>
>>> This morning i had trouble logging into the net, but the finder  
>>> window
>>> shows 6.10 Gig of space remaining.
>>>
>>> I have not downloaded any programs or worked on a huge file, just
>>> the one photo.
>>>
>>> Any ideas, mac folk.
>>>
>>> I'm stumped.
>>>
>>> OSX ibook G4
>>
>> I had a similar thing happen with my Power Mac G4 a few years ago. It
>> turned out that my email programme (Eudora) had gone and made up some
>> sort of file backup to the tune of 4GB.
>>
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Re: Dream Cruise Gallery Show

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Sounds like an interesting exhibit, Paul. Are you going to host the  
photos on-line so we can see what you're showing?

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Re: OT USA warranty outside of US

[Igor Roshchin]

Thanks to all who responded through the list and directly!

As for the track record for Nikon 18-200 VR - it's been on the
market for about a year now. Not enough for conclusive results, but..
If there haven't been much problems observed, that's already a good sign.

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Re: Peso This is a cheese shop

[David J Brooks]

Thanks Frank.
Yes just east of Roberts store, south side.

The K10D metering handled the shade very well.



Dave

On 8/13/07, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/11/07, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Taken a few weeks ago after dropping off some B&W film.
> >
> > Cheese shop near Chester Subway Station. I know Frank knows were this is.:-)
> >
> > I like this one, not sure why, so its this weeks Peso.
> >
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6296546
> >
>
> Terrific shot, Dave.
>
> I like your decision to include the reflection of the street in the
> window (I'm guessing it's Danforth Ave?).
>
> cheers,
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Re: PESO - Sk8tr - The Sequel

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I like this wider view for its increased context and slightly softer  
tonal range.

Godfrey

On Aug 13, 2007, at 6:40 AM, frank theriault wrote:

> My first attempt at dealing with this rather difficult exposure
> situation was so embarrassing, I shudder when I look at it.
>
> Here's another (I think more successful) attempt:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/39a6gq
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RsBXBrMIuRI/AkY/ 
> dj8ARi2eVvE/s1600-h/aug_13+005.jpg
>
> For comparison, here's the original:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/22mplu
>
> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RrS6XLMIt4I/AhQ/ 
> hV-8FRtnsFc/s1600-h/sk8r.jpg
>
> As you see, I also tried a different crop.
>
> Any thoughts?  Same old same old, or do you think it's an improvement?
>  Am I at least on the right path here?


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Re: Peso This is a cheese shop

[frank theriault]

On 8/11/07, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Do they have Camembert?
> (Even if it's a bit runny...)

The cat ate it...

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Re: Peso This is a cheese shop

[frank theriault]

On 8/11/07, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Taken a few weeks ago after dropping off some B&W film.
>
> Cheese shop near Chester Subway Station. I know Frank knows were this is.:-)
>
> I like this one, not sure why, so its this weeks Peso.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6296546
>

Terrific shot, Dave.

I like your decision to include the reflection of the street in the
window (I'm guessing it's Danforth Ave?).

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Re: OT USA warranty outside of US

[graywolf]

I believe it is different nowadays. Used to be when the US importers were 
independent companies that the US warranty was only good in the US, and the 
international warranties were not honored here. Now all the big name companies 
seem to own their importer/distributer themselves, so it is not so hard and 
fast. Best way to find out would be to contact Nikon USA.

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> (Europeans primarily)
> 
> Does anybody know how does the warranty work in Europe for the
> lens with the USA warranty. To be more specific, I am talking about
> Nikon USA 5 year warranty.
> Can a lens be fixed under that warranty in any of European Nikon
> repair shops?
> 
> Another question, - if you know, - what is the durability record
> for the Nikon 18-200 VR lens so far? Does it tend to be very fragile?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
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Re: PESO - Sk8tr - The Sequel

[ann sanfedele]

frank theriault wrote:

>My first attempt at dealing with this rather difficult exposure
>situation was so embarrassing, I shudder when I look at it.
>
>Here's another (I think more successful) attempt:
>
>http://tinyurl.com/39a6gq
>

This is the better of the two --  I dont know what version of PS you 
have, but there is an "easy button"
for helping with this in elements 5 that I use  -- it's in the 
Enhancements pulldown menu for lighting
and says SHADOWS AND HIGHLIGHTS  - there is a sliding scale for 
adjustment... oddly, it
always opens up with a certain percentage done and I generally have to 
pull back the correction
but I have no idea why it starts out with the correction it does...

I like this a lot better than your color photo of the jazz singer which 
lacks emotion that the title implies.
(hehe, I suppose I should make that comment in reponse to the other photo)

xo,
ann


>
>http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RsBXBrMIuRI/AkY/dj8ARi2eVvE/s1600-h/aug_13+005.jpg
>
>For comparison, here's the original:
>
>http://tinyurl.com/22mplu
>
>http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RrS6XLMIt4I/AhQ/hV-8FRtnsFc/s1600-h/sk8r.jpg
>
>As you see, I also tried a different crop.
>
>Any thoughts?  Same old same old, or do you think it's an improvement?
> Am I at least on the right path here?
>
>thanks for your thoughts,
>frank
>
>
>
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Re: PESO: Feasting in North Carolina

[David Savage]

On 8/13/07, ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David Savage wrote:
>
> >On 8/11/07, ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>David Savage wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>was that me hiding behind Graywolf? :)
> >>
> >>This extra wide shot works well and makes me want to be there all over
> >>again. sigh
> >>
> >>nice, David
> >>
> >>ann
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Thanks Ann.
> >
> >I don't think it is you. I'm pretty sure you were inside the trailer
> >while I was taking this.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Dave
> >
> aahhh - wonder who is inder that cap then
>
> a

I'm pretty sure it's Nico.

Cheers,

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Re: PESO: Monhegen Flowers

[ann sanfedele]

John Graves wrote:

>Here is the first of a series I photographed the past few days.   
>Comments are solicited but may be ignored..Wellmaybe
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/jhg2/
>
>John G.
>  
>

Monhegan, eh?  Boy that takes me back - was there in 1978.

we will be expecting some seascapes and rugged cliffs then.  Hope you 
didn't have to eat
too much hake.

ann


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Re: OT: To our Londoners

[Cotty]

On 13/8/07, Gianfranco Irlanda, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Eleonora, a dear friend of mine, is coming to London tomorrow.
>She's going to meet her boyfriend (well, sort of...), who she
>will be able to see just off work.
>She is a art historian, and spends half of the year in India (at
>least for the last two years she did so...)
>During daytime she'll be visiting London, if there's anybody of
>our fellow London PDMLers willing to meet her for a
>coffee/drink/lunch or just to have a chat, even Pentax related
>(she uses a *ist DS...) let me know.

That depends if her boyfriend will be coming along or not.

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  Cotty


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