Re: Back From Paradise...
Yup, that is my fave. Very nicely done! -- Bruce Wednesday, September 12, 2007, 5:30:58 PM, you wrote: MR Mark Cassino wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/stream/stream09.htm MR I really like this one: MR http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/stream/2007/070910/IMGP0850.htm MR Very nice indeed! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO 2007 - 38e - GDG
Well, the bigger version is much better - texture really shows up. For me, this one needs to be part of the group rather than a stand alone - can't make a judgement call as is. -- Bruce Wednesday, September 12, 2007, 5:30:02 PM, you wrote: GD Obviously, I'm in a very hectic moment of rendering out a bunch of GD new work ... I hope y'all are enjoying these. GD Yet another in the Ground Signs set ... GDhttp://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/38e.htm GD Comments, critique, etc always appreciated. GD best, GD Godfrey GDwww.gdgphoto.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Rejoining the group
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Sep 13, 2007, at 8:56 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: I don't read or speak Hebrew but that wouldn't stop me from appreciating a nice calendar...! When was the last time you traveled to Middle East? ;-) Not yet, in this lifetime. Not sure in the previous ones, but I think somewhere along the way i was a buddhist monk. Well, you appear to be quite reluctant, Mr Gotta-have-been-a-Buddhist-monk ;-). If I get to travel over to your town, I'll give you a shout ;-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Rejoining the group
On Sep 13, 2007, at 8:56 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: I don't read or speak Hebrew but that wouldn't stop me from appreciating a nice calendar...! When was the last time you traveled to Middle East? ;-) Not yet, in this lifetime. Not sure in the previous ones, but I think somewhere along the way i was a buddhist monk. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentaxian.com Contest
Tom C wrote: Well I'm sorry you don't get it. No, I think you don't get it. First of all, your hubcap or owners manual analogy is neither here nor there. A hubcap or an owners manual is not integral to the operation of a car, and I've never seen any that have a price that's anywhere near the price of the car itself. Like I said, there isn't really any equivalent to the camera body and lens situation in the auto industry, but if anything, the lens is like the engine. Maybe it's somewhat more relevant to compare with boats, where people might actually buy the engine separately. If we do, we might say you are complaining that the big Johonsonian sweepstake gives away outboard engines and not boats. Secondly: My main point was that Pentax is not just a camera company, but also an optical company. And I don't mean a camera company that fiddles around in the optical business a bit so as to have something to put on their camera bodies. Pentax is an optical company first, a camera a company second. And you are complaining because they give away optics... Even though we now know the site was not designed to attract new business to Pentax, let me ask... If you won an owners manual or a hubcap for an automobile you didn't own, what would you do with it? Let me ask you instead: If you owned a car without a hubcap, what would you do with it? Now, consider a camera without a lens... And apart from all that, if I was about to buy a camera, and was given an expensive lens for one particular system, I really do think I would choose a body matching it. - T Tom C. From: Toralf Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentaxian.com Contest Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:36:19 +0200 Tom C wrote: No why would I have a problem with anyone receiving a nice prize? You obviously chose to ignore my first two sentences. I'm just pointing out the irony of a *camera company* having legendary products not giving some of those legendary cameras away in a 'contest'. Actually, I'm not sure Pentax is a camera company. Or I guess they may be, but a *camera company*? I doubt it. After all, we are talking about the manufacturer of the stuff my optometrist will put inside the frames if I buy a new pair of specs from him... It would be like a major auto manufacturer running a contest and instead of including an automobile as a prize, they give away owners manuals or hubcaps. It's actually rather more like if Suzuki decided to give you a motorbike instead of a car. But not quite. Actually, I can't think of a good analogy in the business you are referring to; yours definitely makes little sense. Unless you know a hubcap producer that has later expanded into an automobile manufacturer. - T Tom C. From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentaxian.com Contest Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 09:35:28 -0700 Gads, Tom. How could they make such an egregious error? Sheesh. It seems you always something to be critical about, even when someone has been gifted with a very nice prize unexpectedly. I guess for some people the glass is always half empty. Godfrey On Sep 12, 2007, at 9:09 AM, Tom C wrote: Good for you. Getting a free lens when you're already a Pentax user is great. Pentax is being pretty cheap and backwards though. Why not give away a few camera bodies to boot? That way people that visit Pentaxian.com that are not Pentax users, if winning a body, would be introduced to Pentax and have an incentive to buy more Pentax gear. OTOH, If I went to a site like this and I was not a current Pentax owner, none of the prizes, not even a lens or a flash, would provide me the incentive to run out and spend money on a body to go with it. They can't afford to include a single K10D or K100D on the prize list? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Toralf Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED] +47 66 85 51 22 ProCaptura AS +47 66 85 51 00 (switchboard) http://www.procaptura.com/~toralf +47 66 85 51 01 (fax) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax Gallery
On 13/09/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: How about Jackson Pollock's paintings? Now you're getting nasty!!! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax Gallery
Art criticism is not art, and does not define art. It merely judges it. G On Sep 13, 2007, at 7:32 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: That's why the test of time is critical. Works that are appreciated and applauded over the centuries earn the right to be called art. Nothing current can rightfully claim that title until generations have arrived at a consensus opinion. Almost all serious art critics would agree. One can express an opinion of recent works, but one can never be certain. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Photoshop Question
From: John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/14 Fri AM 03:17:51 GMT To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: Photoshop Question I bought a new laptop and I'm upgrading to CS3. I checked Adobe's site and license allows me to have PhotoshopCS3 on both my desktop and my laptop as long as I don't use both at the same time. My question is this - Am I going to have to install CS, then the CS2 upgrade on the laptop BEFORE I can install the CS3 upgrade, or will it allow me to just install CS3 directly and pass it the activation keys for the previous versions? Couldn't pass up the laptop. It's a Toshiba Satellite - 1.73GHz Core 2 Duo processor, 2GB RAM, 280GB SATA drive, Dual-Layer DVD +/-RW with Labelflash (??), Can't help with PS but labelflash is probably one of the disc label writing systems where you put the (special) disc in upside down and it makes a BW (and therefore artistic) label. The discs are currently running at about £1 each... - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax Gallery
On Sep 14, 2007, at 12:49 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Sep 13, 2007, at 7:27 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: The question you posed is indeed What is a good picture? a sibling to What is art? ... We haven't had this debate in at least a month. It's time... :o) that, and does a good subject make a good picture? Good pictures come in all shapes and sizes. Sometimes it's the compositon that makes a shot memorable. But a fascinating subject can achieve that as well. And of course sheer beauty is always worth a second look. In truth, there is no single, narrow definition. What is sheer beauty? It is, of course, in the eye of the beholder. The logic of your statement is that there is no definition of art, or beauty, that is not entirely subjective. Is that qualitative judgment, in the eye of the beholder, a product of nature or nurture? There are many definitions of art, and all of them are in some way subjective. But there can be a consensus. ... Your choices are far too limiting. It's a product of many things: environment, experience, nature, nurture and more. It's quite simple really. If it's pleasing to the eye, it's beautiful. To one individual, that makes it personal art. If the consensus of opinion finds it beautiful, it can be said to be art. But that is still somewhat subjective. Because we are unique individuals, the subjectivity of these kinds of judgments can never be eliminated completely. However, over time, the consensus can become very broad and far reaching. Consensus does not change whether something is subjective or objective. Words mean certain things due to a consensus on their meaning, not because a given symbol or utterance has an a priori meaning. Your choices are far too limiting. It's a product of many things: environment, experience, nature, nurture and more. The shorthand of nurture or nature means is it something a part of the animal (genetics, physiology, atomic structure, what have you) or a learned behavior (which includes experience, environment, teaching, etc). There are no other choices to these two classes of kind other than possibly the supernatural, which we have yet to see a proof of existence for. It's quite simple really. If it's pleasing to the eye, it's beautiful. To one individual, that makes it personal art. If the consensus of opinion finds it beautiful, it can be said to be art. But that is still somewhat subjective. Because we are unique individuals, the subjectivity of these kinds of judgments can never be eliminated completely. However, over time, the consensus can become very broad and far reaching. Your statement presumes that pleasing equals beautiful, that things considered beautiful are art, and that a consensus of opinion on the beauty of something defines it as art. By your definition, everything can be art, because nearly everything can be pleasing to someone's eye. There is plenty of work out there that is considered art which is not considered beautiful or pleasing to the eye, from virtually every major recognized artist. That would seem to make your definition insubstantial. How do you account for this conflict between consensus of art and your definition of same? I said no such thing. You're cherry picking. Go back to my original post. No, I disagree. All your posts are in sequence above. I said that there is no single path to successful photography. You said that good pictures come in all shapes and sizes, and in addition: ... And of course sheer beauty is always worth a second look. ... I asked What is sheer beauty? Your response was a circular, subjective support of beauty being something that you know either by yourself or by consensus with others, and then you went on to assert that pleasing equals beautiful, which makes it personal art, and agreement on what is beautiful by consensus also defines something as art. I assert that there is work created by recognized artists and considered by consensus not to be beautiful which is considered art. And that this is in contradiction to your definition. The paths to great photography are unlimited. That is why it's impossible to develop rules or precise measurements. In regard to subjectivity, nearly all critics of artistic pursuits — whether the genre be painting, music, literature or even that fledging art known as photography — agree that consensus -- or the test of time -- is a valid measure of artistic merit. It's a basic tenet of criticism in all the arts. It's you who went down the path of defining art as representing something recognized as beauty, not I, and deviated from the original question of what makes a great picture when you tossed in that notion of recognizing sheer beauty. How do you define sheer beauty and why is it special? What is the criteria by which it is recognized? Why does art have to be beautiful? Are you asserting that art is ONLY
Re: Pentax Gallery
On Sep 14, 2007, at 12:49 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Sep 13, 2007, at 7:27 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: The question you posed is indeed What is a good picture? a sibling to What is art? ... We haven't had this debate in at least a month. It's time... :o) that, and does a good subject make a good picture? Good pictures come in all shapes and sizes. Sometimes it's the compositon that makes a shot memorable. But a fascinating subject can achieve that as well. And of course sheer beauty is always worth a second look. In truth, there is no single, narrow definition. What is sheer beauty? It is, of course, in the eye of the beholder. The logic of your statement is that there is no definition of art, or beauty, that is not entirely subjective. Is that qualitative judgment, in the eye of the beholder, a product of nature or nurture? There are many definitions of art, and all of them are in some way subjective. But there can be a consensus. ... Your choices are far too limiting. It's a product of many things: environment, experience, nature, nurture and more. It's quite simple really. If it's pleasing to the eye, it's beautiful. To one individual, that makes it personal art. If the consensus of opinion finds it beautiful, it can be said to be art. But that is still somewhat subjective. Because we are unique individuals, the subjectivity of these kinds of judgments can never be eliminated completely. However, over time, the consensus can become very broad and far reaching. Consensus does not change whether something is subjective or objective. Words mean certain things due to a consensus on their meaning, not because a given symbol or utterance has an a priori meaning. Your choices are far too limiting. It's a product of many things: environment, experience, nature, nurture and more. The shorthand of nurture or nature means is it something a part of the animal (genetics, physiology, atomic structure, what have you) or a learned behavior (which includes experience, environment, teaching, etc). There are no other choices to these two classes of kind other than possibly the supernatural, which we have yet to see a proof of existence for. It's quite simple really. If it's pleasing to the eye, it's beautiful. To one individual, that makes it personal art. If the consensus of opinion finds it beautiful, it can be said to be art. But that is still somewhat subjective. Because we are unique individuals, the subjectivity of these kinds of judgments can never be eliminated completely. However, over time, the consensus can become very broad and far reaching. Your statement presumes that pleasing equals beautiful, that things considered beautiful are art, and that a consensus of opinion on the beauty of something defines it as art. By your definition, everything can be art, because nearly everything can be pleasing to someone's eye. There is plenty of work out there that is considered art which is not considered beautiful or pleasing to the eye, from virtually every major recognized artist. That would seem to make your definition insubstantial. How do you account for this conflict between consensus of art and your definition of same? I said no such thing. You're cherry picking. Go back to my original post. No, I disagree. All your posts are in sequence above. I said that there is no single path to successful photography. You said that good pictures come in all shapes and sizes, and in addition: ... And of course sheer beauty is always worth a second look. ... Exactly. I didn't say beauty defines art. I said something beautiful is worth looking at.. I asked What is sheer beauty? Your response was a circular, subjective support of beauty being something that you know either by yourself or by consensus with others, and then you went on to assert that pleasing equals beautiful, which makes it personal art, and agreement on what is beautiful by consensus also defines something as art. I said something that is beautiful CAN be art, just as a great composition CAN be art. A consensus that something is beautiful doesn't make it art. A consensus, over time, that something is artful, however, is a certain indication of aesthetic value. You are again cherry picking. I assert that there is work created by recognized artists and considered by consensus not to be beautiful which is considered art. And that this is in contradiction to your definition. I never said that art has to be beautiful, only that the beautiful can be art. Two different things. Go back and read more carefully. The paths to great photography are unlimited. That is why it's impossible to develop rules or precise measurements. In regard to subjectivity, nearly all critics of artistic pursuits — whether the genre be painting, music, literature or even that fledging art known as photography — agree that consensus -- or the
Re: OT: Photoshop Question
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi On Sep 13, 2007, at 8:36 PM, David Savage wrote: At 11:17 AM 14/09/2007, John Sessoms wrote: I bought a new laptop and I'm upgrading to CS3. I checked Adobe's site and license allows me to have PhotoshopCS3 on both my desktop and my laptop as long as I don't use both at the same time. My question is this - Am I going to have to install CS, then the CS2 upgrade on the laptop BEFORE I can install the CS3 upgrade, or will it allow me to just install CS3 directly and pass it the activation keys for the previous versions? No, but you will need the CS/CS2 CD's during the CS3 installation. You shouldn't need the CDs, just the serial number from CS2 if you're installing a CS3 upgrade package. I keep all my Adobe software serial numbers handy in case I need to do an upgrade install. I've never been asked for a CD. I appreciate the responses. I've got both packages (complete with S/Ns) sitting right here on the desk. I just don't want to have to do a full CS install; then install the CS2 upgrade, then ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: spam: Back From Paradise...
From: ann sanfedele was with you until you said Tony Sweet :):) otoh -- I do like _your_ abstracts and it is such fun to do, isn't it? Learned one of my most important lessons about photography workshops from Tony. Always be one of the drivers when you go out on location. That way they can't leave you behind when they move to another location. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Nikon D300 sample photos
http://www.nikon-image.com/jpn/products/camera/slr/digital/d300/sample.htm That raises one question. Is it wort it? I seen Pentax K10D perform better than that and with more contrasty situations rather than carefully weighted studio lighting for this Harley Davidson set... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: spam: Back From Paradise...
On 9/14/07, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: ann sanfedele was with you until you said Tony Sweet :):) otoh -- I do like _your_ abstracts and it is such fun to do, isn't it? Learned one of my most important lessons about photography workshops from Tony. Always be one of the drivers when you go out on location. That way they can't leave you behind when they move to another location. More importantly in my experience is that you can stop whenever you want. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Photoshop Question
On 9/14/07, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just don't want to have to do a full CS install; then install the CS2 upgrade, then ... You shouldn't need to. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - Petunia
Great looking cat, John. Here is a recent one of our Spencer, who now believes he is Spencer the Hunter. He loves to catch lizzards and whatever else he can. He also talks to squirrels :-) http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/?action=viewcurrent=Spencer-the-Hunter.jpg Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - Excuse Me
I have to go feed the cat: http://tinyurl.com/36n9sp http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/Rup343jQnCI/Ars/j1mUbGBT-uw/s1600-h/sept_15+002.jpg Actually, now that I see this one on my monitor at work, the bowl in front of the cat needs way more detail - funny, but on my laptop at home, there was lots of detail. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax Gallery
P. J. Alling wrote: Much modern art is a scam, just so much crap, Very true. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Petunia
Ye gods!! That reminds me of Two Ton Baker - used to be on Chicago radio in the late 1940's - as I remember, that was his theme song. -p ann sanfedele wrote: very nice -- was it a loney little petunia in an onion patch ? ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Petunia
On 9/14/07, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just an updated kitty portrait for the cat rescue group site, but it turned out rather better than I expected http://panix.com/~johnf/temp/Petunia.jpg Pentax *ist D, DA 18-55 @ 55mm, 1/15 @ f5.6, ISO 200 Beautiful cat, beautifully captured. Love the lighting. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO 2007 - 38e - GDG
On 9/12/07, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That one doesn't work as well for me as the others--the lettering is just too fuzzy and illegible, and doesn't stand out enough to be really striking. I feel the same way.. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Photoshop Question
Lablefish seems to be a version of Lightscribe. mike wilson wrote: From: John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/14 Fri AM 03:17:51 GMT To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: Photoshop Question I bought a new laptop and I'm upgrading to CS3. I checked Adobe's site and license allows me to have PhotoshopCS3 on both my desktop and my laptop as long as I don't use both at the same time. My question is this - Am I going to have to install CS, then the CS2 upgrade on the laptop BEFORE I can install the CS3 upgrade, or will it allow me to just install CS3 directly and pass it the activation keys for the previous versions? Couldn't pass up the laptop. It's a Toshiba Satellite - 1.73GHz Core 2 Duo processor, 2GB RAM, 280GB SATA drive, Dual-Layer DVD +/-RW with Labelflash (??), Can't help with PS but labelflash is probably one of the disc label writing systems where you put the (special) disc in upside down and it makes a BW (and therefore artistic) label. The discs are currently running at about £1 each... - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Nikon D300 sample photos
- Original Message - From: Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 12:56 PM Subject: Nikon D300 sample photos http://www.nikon-image.com/jpn/products/camera/slr/digital/d300/sample.htm That raises one question. Is it wort it? I seen Pentax K10D perform better than that and with more contrasty situations rather than carefully weighted studio lighting for this Harley Davidson set... What I'm wondering about is when anyone is going to manufacture a sensor that actually capture sharp images -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - This Is Art!
All this discussion of what art is. Here it is. They're in a gallery, pretty much ignoring the framed thingies on the wall, just like every other opening I've ever gone to: http://tinyurl.com/23cgys http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RuqBc3jQnDI/Ar0/5GSpqLOyMwk/s1600-h/sept_15+001.jpg Actually, the show, backstage photos of a ballet company during performance, was a very good one (but my goodness, the prices!). cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Adobe Lightroom v1.2 now available
http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2007/09/ I'm downloading it now. BTW: Anyone know if it's possible to export image metadata from Lightroom? Specifically, for an entire directory or collection. Right now I'm doing it with the Pentax Photo Browser, which will export all the metadata from a directory full of photos in CSV format. This seems to me like the sort of thing Lightroom ought to do but I have a sneaking suspicion it doesn't. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - This Is Art!
Nice one. Well seen and an interesting perspective. Paul -- Original message -- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] All this discussion of what art is. Here it is. They're in a gallery, pretty much ignoring the framed thingies on the wall, just like every other opening I've ever gone to: http://tinyurl.com/23cgys http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RuqBc3jQnDI/Ar0/5GSpqLOyMwk/s1600-h/ sept_15+001.jpg Actually, the show, backstage photos of a ballet company during performance, was a very good one (but my goodness, the prices!). cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax Gallery
On Sep 14, 2007, at 3:06 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Exactly. I didn't say beauty defines art. I said something beautiful is worth looking at.. But you still haven't suggested what allows you to recognize what is beautiful. I said something that is beautiful CAN be art, just as a great composition CAN be art. A consensus that something is beautiful doesn't make it art. A consensus, over time, that something is artful, however, is a certain indication of aesthetic value. You are again cherry picking. Cherry picking, no. I'm trying to have a discussion and looking for a criteria that allows on to separate what is art vs what is not. Sorry if you think that is difficult, but I haven't found it in your statement yet. I never said that art has to be beautiful, only that the beautiful can be art. Two different things. Go back and read more carefully. That's a useful distinction. No. You suggested I said that. I never did. But of course you have to win every discussion. We all know that. So it's pointless to go on and on with you. Let's not go down the path of a personal insult. I thought we were having an interesting discussion. There is nothing to win here. I posit that: 1: Art is intentional and has affect. 2: Great photographs capture a likeness, are executed with technical expertise, express emotion, or convey information. 3: There are many great photographs in the world. Most of them are not art, but some are. How they differ is in how they are conceived and how they exhibit affect or influence the viewer. 4: Likewise there is much great art in the world. Most of it is not photographs, but some is. Of that subset of art which is photographs, many are not great photographs by the definition above, but that they are art can be discerned on the basis of their intent and affect. There's enough obfuscation in your definition to make it bullet proof. So be it. I though the notions I posed were fairly simply stated and reasonably clear, a set of notions to explore. What is about them is obfuscation? what do you take issue with? Again, there's nothing here to win. I'm enjoying the discussion of something other than how many lines of resolution a particular sensor might have, or whether it would be more sensible to buy a Nikon or Canon over a Pentax. The definition of art and great photographs are elusive and complex things, worthy of discussion. What in my positing are you uncomfortable with? Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Nikon D300 sample photos
On 14/09/2007, Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I'm wondering about is when anyone is going to manufacture a sensor that actually capture sharp images Indeed, I think it's appalling that people will have to put up with ISO3200 images of this quality: http://chsv.nikon-image.com/jpn/products/camera/slr/digital/d3/img/sample/pic_004.jpg -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/PESO http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Back From Paradise...
On 9/12/07, Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paradise, Michigan that is... Just got resubscribed after a week in a little cabin on Whitefish Point - no internet and limited TV (5 channels, 3 of them Canadian). Unfortunately, cell phones now work up there. After months of drought the rain came with us - and while my wife and I managed to hike the North Country Trail or Taqua Trail most days, we spent one day in the cabin as rain poured down, and it rained almost every night. So much for northern lights photos with the LX. Based on a bucket we left outside, the cabin got over 5 inches of rain while we were there. That extinguished the fire that was burning up the nearby peat bogs. Anyhow - I didn't plan on doing much photography, and ultimately decided to leave the 6x7 kit at home and brought only the digital stuff and 35mm gear. I have to say I never touched the Mz-S or LX, but did shoot a bit with the K10D. I was rather disappointed with the auto-focus performance of the K10D and DA 16-45 f4 lens. It seemed to have a distinct problem getting a lock for landscapes or scenics where the lens was basically focusing at infinity. This was especially true at the wide end. No problems with closer focusing and no problems with other lenses, so maybe my 16-45 has something awry with it. Anyhow - several months after Grandfather Mountain the Tony Sweet effect finally settled in, and I wound up spending a fair amount of time shooting controlled motion blurred shots (bouncing the camera around or ultra long exposures hand held) and doing in-focus / out of focus multi exposures. For those who have read this far - a small gallery: http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/stream/stream09.htm Incredible work, as always, Mark! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO Why..
On 9/13/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..did you brush my hair like this dad? http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/Thomas/photo?authkey=pzmnlsD2ZJI#5109850268572191650 Before school this morning. evil grin LMAO!! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Nikon D300 sample photos
What's wrong with A. Never mind. Cheers, Dave On 9/14/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14/09/2007, Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I'm wondering about is when anyone is going to manufacture a sensor that actually capture sharp images Indeed, I think it's appalling that people will have to put up with ISO3200 images of this quality: http://chsv.nikon-image.com/jpn/products/camera/slr/digital/d3/img/sample/pic_004.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Nikon D300 sample photos
Pål Jensen wrote: - Original Message - From: Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 12:56 PM Subject: Nikon D300 sample photos http://www.nikon-image.com/jpn/products/camera/slr/digital/d300/sample.htm That raises one question. Is it wort it? I seen Pentax K10D perform better than that and with more contrasty situations rather than carefully weighted studio lighting for this Harley Davidson set... What I'm wondering about is when anyone is going to manufacture a sensor that actually capture sharp images When someone comes up with a reliable software fix for moire. The soft images are due to the Anti Aliasing filter, which exists to cut down on moire. Since there's a software fix for what the AA filter does to the image (although Nikon traditionally tries to avoid much in-camera sharpening) and moire is much harder to fix in post, this is a tradeoff that most are willing to settle for. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Nikon D300 sample photos
Yes, what a disaster. The guy should have shot it on Ektachrome 400 and pushed it three stops:-). Paul -- Original message -- From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 14/09/2007, Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I'm wondering about is when anyone is going to manufacture a sensor that actually capture sharp images Indeed, I think it's appalling that people will have to put up with ISO3200 images of this quality: http://chsv.nikon-image.com/jpn/products/camera/slr/digital/d3/img/sample/pic_00 4.jpg -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/PESO http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO Why..
On 9/14/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..did you brush my hair like this dad? http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/Thomas/photo?authkey=pzmnlsD2ZJI#5109850268572191650 Before school this morning. evil grin That's just plain wrong. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Back From Paradise...
Is Paradise close to Hell? I enjoyed these pics as well. Interesting experiment. Paul -- Original message -- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 9/12/07, Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paradise, Michigan that is... Just got resubscribed after a week in a little cabin on Whitefish Point - no internet and limited TV (5 channels, 3 of them Canadian). Unfortunately, cell phones now work up there. After months of drought the rain came with us - and while my wife and I managed to hike the North Country Trail or Taqua Trail most days, we spent one day in the cabin as rain poured down, and it rained almost every night. So much for northern lights photos with the LX. Based on a bucket we left outside, the cabin got over 5 inches of rain while we were there. That extinguished the fire that was burning up the nearby peat bogs. Anyhow - I didn't plan on doing much photography, and ultimately decided to leave the 6x7 kit at home and brought only the digital stuff and 35mm gear. I have to say I never touched the Mz-S or LX, but did shoot a bit with the K10D. I was rather disappointed with the auto-focus performance of the K10D and DA 16-45 f4 lens. It seemed to have a distinct problem getting a lock for landscapes or scenics where the lens was basically focusing at infinity. This was especially true at the wide end. No problems with closer focusing and no problems with other lenses, so maybe my 16-45 has something awry with it. Anyhow - several months after Grandfather Mountain the Tony Sweet effect finally settled in, and I wound up spending a fair amount of time shooting controlled motion blurred shots (bouncing the camera around or ultra long exposures hand held) and doing in-focus / out of focus multi exposures. For those who have read this far - a small gallery: http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/stream/stream09.htm Incredible work, as always, Mark! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Adobe Lightroom v1.2 now available
Thanks for the notice! Downloading now ... :-) Regards exporting metadata: Lightroom allows you to export metadata to and from the files you are working with. I don't believe there is a function to export to CSV or plain text files ... for DNG, JPEG, TIFF and PSD files, metadata is appended into the body of the files themselves as they are container formats. But in the case of native format RAW files ... these are handled as read only, so when you export metadata to file with them, the metadata is written into .xmp sidecar files which are plain text and can be opened with any text editor. Godfrey On Sep 14, 2007, at 6:01 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2007/09/ I'm downloading it now. BTW: Anyone know if it's possible to export image metadata from Lightroom? Specifically, for an entire directory or collection. Right now I'm doing it with the Pentax Photo Browser, which will export all the metadata from a directory full of photos in CSV format. This seems to me like the sort of thing Lightroom ought to do but I have a sneaking suspicion it doesn't. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax Gallery
An expressed mutual respect for points made will always facilitate a stimulating discussion. An apparent disregard or correcting exchange will only last 'til someone feels they have won. Jack --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 14, 2007, at 3:06 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Exactly. I didn't say beauty defines art. I said something beautiful is worth looking at.. But you still haven't suggested what allows you to recognize what is beautiful. I said something that is beautiful CAN be art, just as a great composition CAN be art. A consensus that something is beautiful doesn't make it art. A consensus, over time, that something is artful, however, is a certain indication of aesthetic value. You are again cherry picking. Cherry picking, no. I'm trying to have a discussion and looking for a criteria that allows on to separate what is art vs what is not. Sorry if you think that is difficult, but I haven't found it in your statement yet. I never said that art has to be beautiful, only that the beautiful can be art. Two different things. Go back and read more carefully. That's a useful distinction. No. You suggested I said that. I never did. But of course you have to win every discussion. We all know that. So it's pointless to go on and on with you. Let's not go down the path of a personal insult. I thought we were having an interesting discussion. There is nothing to win here. I posit that: 1: Art is intentional and has affect. 2: Great photographs capture a likeness, are executed with technical expertise, express emotion, or convey information. 3: There are many great photographs in the world. Most of them are not art, but some are. How they differ is in how they are conceived and how they exhibit affect or influence the viewer. 4: Likewise there is much great art in the world. Most of it is not photographs, but some is. Of that subset of art which is photographs, many are not great photographs by the definition above, but that they are art can be discerned on the basis of their intent and affect. There's enough obfuscation in your definition to make it bullet proof. So be it. I though the notions I posed were fairly simply stated and reasonably clear, a set of notions to explore. What is about them is obfuscation? what do you take issue with? Again, there's nothing here to win. I'm enjoying the discussion of something other than how many lines of resolution a particular sensor might have, or whether it would be more sensible to buy a Nikon or Canon over a Pentax. The definition of art and great photographs are elusive and complex things, worthy of discussion. What in my positing are you uncomfortable with? Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - This Is Art!
looks like art and associates ;) nice shot. rg2 On 9/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice one. Well seen and an interesting perspective. Paul -- Original message -- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] All this discussion of what art is. Here it is. They're in a gallery, pretty much ignoring the framed thingies on the wall, just like every other opening I've ever gone to: http://tinyurl.com/23cgys http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RuqBc3jQnDI/Ar0/5GSpqLOyMwk/s1600-h/ sept_15+001.jpg Actually, the show, backstage photos of a ballet company during performance, was a very good one (but my goodness, the prices!). cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- the subject of a photograph is far less important than its composition -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Adobe Lightroom v1.2 now available
Thanks, Mark. I almost started worrying that Adobe do not update LightRoom. I've installed the update already. Everything is fine, as usual. Boris Mark Roberts wrote: http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2007/09/ I'm downloading it now. BTW: Anyone know if it's possible to export image metadata from Lightroom? Specifically, for an entire directory or collection. Right now I'm doing it with the Pentax Photo Browser, which will export all the metadata from a directory full of photos in CSV format. This seems to me like the sort of thing Lightroom ought to do but I have a sneaking suspicion it doesn't. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Bouquet
I will, thanks ;) it must be here somewhere near my photography skills rg2 On 9/10/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you find my brain there, tell it to come home, I need it. Rebekah wrote: oh gosh, I'm going to go crawl under a rock now... rg2 On 9/10/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Depth of field. Rebekah wrote: DOF? rg2 On 9/10/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rebekah, to me on the ibook screen, the hilites are pretty loud. Try and tone those down a bit and maybe, just a tad, more DOF. Not much, just a tad. Dave On 9/10/07, Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Bruce :) I'll try again. I actually have a whole roll of film i used taking pictures of those flowers. I appreciate all the advice, it helps me learn so much faster. rg2 On 9/10/07, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I think I would go back and shoot some more - you should try many things to see what is going to work best. If you are only taking a shot or two, then you are not exploring the subject to it's fullest. -- Best regards, Bruce Monday, September 10, 2007, 1:31:59 PM, you wrote: R Thanks guys. I see what you mean, I hadn't looked at it that way, and R it's good to know. Do you think this picture would lend itself to one R flower being colored, like this? R http://picasaweb.google.com/rg2pdml/PESO/photo?authkey=W1C-i05p28o#5108675641377599890 R Or should I just go back and take a better picture? :o) R Thanks for taking the time to comment! R rg2 R On 9/10/07, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Rebekah, I like the color better. This is a real difficult shot to execute because of the DOF issue. You will not be able to get all of the flowers in focus, so picking the focus point is crucial. As presented, the focus point doesn't jump out at me - it looks more towards the middle. This causes my eyes to jump back and forth to settle on the middle and wonder why there are so many other roses in the composition. Hopefully you see what I am getting at. Perhaps focus on the front flowers with the OOF slowly receding would be better - or fewer flowers - or much increased DOF, meaning tripod and stopped way down. Right now it just feels to busy without my eye comfortably settling on a subject. -- Bruce Monday, September 10, 2007, 12:21:41 PM, you wrote: R So last week I was playing with my camera, a flashlight and some R flowers. This picture's my favorite, but I'm undecided (as usual) if R I like it in color or BW. I cropped it down a little bit too. All R comments and advice welcome ? R http://picasaweb.google.com/rg2pdml/PESO?authkey=W1C-i05p28o R rg2 R -- R the subject of a photograph is far less important than its composition -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net R -- R the subject of a photograph is far less important than its composition -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- the subject of a photograph is far less important than its composition -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Remember, it's pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Remember, it's pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- the subject of a photograph is far less important than its composition -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO: Old windmill (on expired film)
Hi all, So for long time i'm posting something to look at. Real experimental picture - my first P67 shot, well, second if i look at filename counter ;) Pentax 6x7 MLU 75/4.5 lens @ f11 (or f22) Old expired film Fuji NPH 400 (exp date 2001-08) Film looks good, i got from eBay. Probably it was kept in freezer. So this e-mail is answer to thread in list some time ago. From my Epson 3150 scanner it came as 178 Mb tiff, and i had trouble to post process it. My PC was really _slowww_ ... This is old windmill, sometimes used for rock climbing training. http://gasha.pie-dabas.net/peso/sloka-windmill-002-700.jpg Gasha -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Bouquet
On 9/10/07, Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So last week I was playing with my camera, a flashlight and some flowers. This picture's my favorite, but I'm undecided (as usual) if I like it in color or BW. I cropped it down a little bit too. All comments and advice welcome ♥ http://picasaweb.google.com/rg2pdml/PESO?authkey=W1C-i05p28o I like the BW versions. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Back From Paradise...
Nope - Paradise is in the UP, Hell is close to Ann Arbor... http://maps.google.com/maps?f=dhl=engeocode=saddr=paradise,+midaddr=hell,+misll=37.0625,-95.677068sspn=27.753016,58.710937ie=UTF8z=7om=1 http://tinyurl.com/22ozsk -p [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is Paradise close to Hell? I enjoyed these pics as well. Interesting experiment. Paul -- Original message -- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 9/12/07, Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paradise, Michigan that is... Just got resubscribed after a week in a little cabin on Whitefish Point - no internet and limited TV (5 channels, 3 of them Canadian). Unfortunately, cell phones now work up there. After months of drought the rain came with us - and while my wife and I managed to hike the North Country Trail or Taqua Trail most days, we spent one day in the cabin as rain poured down, and it rained almost every night. So much for northern lights photos with the LX. Based on a bucket we left outside, the cabin got over 5 inches of rain while we were there. That extinguished the fire that was burning up the nearby peat bogs. Anyhow - I didn't plan on doing much photography, and ultimately decided to leave the 6x7 kit at home and brought only the digital stuff and 35mm gear. I have to say I never touched the Mz-S or LX, but did shoot a bit with the K10D. I was rather disappointed with the auto-focus performance of the K10D and DA 16-45 f4 lens. It seemed to have a distinct problem getting a lock for landscapes or scenics where the lens was basically focusing at infinity. This was especially true at the wide end. No problems with closer focusing and no problems with other lenses, so maybe my 16-45 has something awry with it. Anyhow - several months after Grandfather Mountain the Tony Sweet effect finally settled in, and I wound up spending a fair amount of time shooting controlled motion blurred shots (bouncing the camera around or ultra long exposures hand held) and doing in-focus / out of focus multi exposures. For those who have read this far - a small gallery: http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/stream/stream09.htm Incredible work, as always, Mark! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Bouquet
thanks :) rg2 On 9/14/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/10/07, Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So last week I was playing with my camera, a flashlight and some flowers. This picture's my favorite, but I'm undecided (as usual) if I like it in color or BW. I cropped it down a little bit too. All comments and advice welcome ♥ http://picasaweb.google.com/rg2pdml/PESO?authkey=W1C-i05p28o I like the BW versions. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- the subject of a photograph is far less important than its composition -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Adobe Lightroom v1.2 now available
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Lightroom allows you to export metadata to and from the files you are working with. I don't believe there is a function to export to CSV or plain text files ... for DNG, JPEG, TIFF and PSD files, metadata is appended into the body of the files themselves as they are container formats. But in the case of native format RAW files ... these are handled as read only, so when you export metadata to file with them, the metadata is written into .xmp sidecar files which are plain text and can be opened with any text editor. But it's one .xmp sidecar file per image, isn't it? What I want (and what the Pentax browser does) is to have all the metadata from an entire directory full of images exported into a single file. I guess using Pentax Photo Browser for this purpose isn't particularly onerous, but I do most of my processing in Lightroom and it would be nice if I didn't have to use a separate app. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Back From Paradise...
Thank God :-)) -- Original message -- From: Paul Sorenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nope - Paradise is in the UP, Hell is close to Ann Arbor... http://maps.google.com/maps?f=dhl=engeocode=saddr=paradise,+midaddr=hell,+mi sll=37.0625,-95.677068sspn=27.753016,58.710937ie=UTF8z=7om=1 http://tinyurl.com/22ozsk -p [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is Paradise close to Hell? I enjoyed these pics as well. Interesting experiment. Paul -- Original message -- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 9/12/07, Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paradise, Michigan that is... Just got resubscribed after a week in a little cabin on Whitefish Point - no internet and limited TV (5 channels, 3 of them Canadian). Unfortunately, cell phones now work up there. After months of drought the rain came with us - and while my wife and I managed to hike the North Country Trail or Taqua Trail most days, we spent one day in the cabin as rain poured down, and it rained almost every night. So much for northern lights photos with the LX. Based on a bucket we left outside, the cabin got over 5 inches of rain while we were there. That extinguished the fire that was burning up the nearby peat bogs. Anyhow - I didn't plan on doing much photography, and ultimately decided to leave the 6x7 kit at home and brought only the digital stuff and 35mm gear. I have to say I never touched the Mz-S or LX, but did shoot a bit with the K10D. I was rather disappointed with the auto-focus performance of the K10D and DA 16-45 f4 lens. It seemed to have a distinct problem getting a lock for landscapes or scenics where the lens was basically focusing at infinity. This was especially true at the wide end. No problems with closer focusing and no problems with other lenses, so maybe my 16-45 has something awry with it. Anyhow - several months after Grandfather Mountain the Tony Sweet effect finally settled in, and I wound up spending a fair amount of time shooting controlled motion blurred shots (bouncing the camera around or ultra long exposures hand held) and doing in-focus / out of focus multi exposures. For those who have read this far - a small gallery: http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/stream/stream09.htm Incredible work, as always, Mark! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- Sleigh bells ring are you listinin'?
On 9/14/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wasn't sure if I actually wanted to share this or not, but what the heck. http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20sleighbellsringareyoulisten..html Equipment *ist-Ds/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 AL As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. It's kinda cool. What is it? An airplane cockpit? cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A few more images....
Been there, places are very colorful, but not that colorful. Very little in nature looks like it was done with melted crayons or super gloss acrylics. To me Agfa Precisa 100 had the most accurate color rendition of any of the slide films. That was the biggest loss to me from Agfa going out of the film business. Tom C wrote: You need to come out west sometime. :-) Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: A few more images Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:27:05 -0400 Now landscape photographers use Velvia and my brain rebels because nature just doesn't look like that. John Sessoms wrote: From: P. J. Alling Those look like typical Velvia, or as I like to call it Velveeta, (Kraft Corporation's processed Cheese Food, since it has the same relationship to natural color that Velveeta has to natural cheese), to me.. I still have a hard time believing that this stuff actually displaced Kodachrome as the saturated slide film of choice. Kodachrome may have been highly saturated but it still had some relationship to the colors of nature. How much of that is because of what Velvia is and how much of it is due to Kodak making Kodachrome so much less accessible than it used to be. You can get Velvia processed almost anywhere in the world. How many labs process Kodachrome? -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.16/1005 - Release Date: 9/13/2007 11:45 AM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax Gallery
Now that's a classic. Mark! Tom C. From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] If it has a frame around it. I say a dog shit with a frame around it is still a dog shit. -- Rob Studdert -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- Sleigh bells ring are you listinin'?
It's the controls at the working end of a garbage truck... frank theriault wrote: On 9/14/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wasn't sure if I actually wanted to share this or not, but what the heck. http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20sleighbellsringareyoulisten..html Equipment *ist-Ds/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 AL As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. It's kinda cool. What is it? An airplane cockpit? cheers, frank -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO -- Sleigh bells ring are you listinin'?
I wasn't sure if I actually wanted to share this or not, but what the heck. http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20sleighbellsringareyoulisten..html Equipment *ist-Ds/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 AL As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax Gallery
Of course it can concurrently be art and a dog shit but practically I'd tend towards labeling it the latter if that's what it is. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Honestly. I have two dogs which make some very nice pieces of work. If anyone here want's some of this doggy art let me know. I'll take some pictures so you can see what your getting. I accept Paypal and I'll even frame it for you, if desired. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentaxian.com Contest
Your trying to make my analogy fit perfectly to some rules you have in your head. I was not. It was a general analogy. That is, if you give me a component of a system and and I don't have the requisite parts of the system to make that component useful, then it is potentially of little value. Obviously, if I have the requisite parts, then the value increases. The winning party(ies) that receive a lens, flash, or instruction manual, who are not currently Pentax owners, will have received something of dubious value. Tom C. From: Toralf Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentaxian.com Contest Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 08:58:02 +0200 Tom C wrote: Well I'm sorry you don't get it. No, I think you don't get it. First of all, your hubcap or owners manual analogy is neither here nor there. A hubcap or an owners manual is not integral to the operation of a car, and I've never seen any that have a price that's anywhere near the price of the car itself. Like I said, there isn't really any equivalent to the camera body and lens situation in the auto industry, but if anything, the lens is like the engine. Maybe it's somewhat more relevant to compare with boats, where people might actually buy the engine separately. If we do, we might say you are complaining that the big Johonsonian sweepstake gives away outboard engines and not boats. Secondly: My main point was that Pentax is not just a camera company, but also an optical company. And I don't mean a camera company that fiddles around in the optical business a bit so as to have something to put on their camera bodies. Pentax is an optical company first, a camera a company second. And you are complaining because they give away optics... Even though we now know the site was not designed to attract new business to Pentax, let me ask... If you won an owners manual or a hubcap for an automobile you didn't own, what would you do with it? Let me ask you instead: If you owned a car without a hubcap, what would you do with it? Now, consider a camera without a lens... And apart from all that, if I was about to buy a camera, and was given an expensive lens for one particular system, I really do think I would choose a body matching it. - T Tom C. From: Toralf Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentaxian.com Contest Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:36:19 +0200 Tom C wrote: No why would I have a problem with anyone receiving a nice prize? You obviously chose to ignore my first two sentences. I'm just pointing out the irony of a *camera company* having legendary products not giving some of those legendary cameras away in a 'contest'. Actually, I'm not sure Pentax is a camera company. Or I guess they may be, but a *camera company*? I doubt it. After all, we are talking about the manufacturer of the stuff my optometrist will put inside the frames if I buy a new pair of specs from him... It would be like a major auto manufacturer running a contest and instead of including an automobile as a prize, they give away owners manuals or hubcaps. It's actually rather more like if Suzuki decided to give you a motorbike instead of a car. But not quite. Actually, I can't think of a good analogy in the business you are referring to; yours definitely makes little sense. Unless you know a hubcap producer that has later expanded into an automobile manufacturer. - T Tom C. From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentaxian.com Contest Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 09:35:28 -0700 Gads, Tom. How could they make such an egregious error? Sheesh. It seems you always something to be critical about, even when someone has been gifted with a very nice prize unexpectedly. I guess for some people the glass is always half empty. Godfrey On Sep 12, 2007, at 9:09 AM, Tom C wrote: Good for you. Getting a free lens when you're already a Pentax user is great. Pentax is being pretty cheap and backwards though. Why not give away a few camera bodies to boot? That way people that visit Pentaxian.com that are not Pentax users, if winning a body, would be introduced to Pentax and have an incentive to buy more Pentax gear. OTOH, If I went to a site like this and I was not a current Pentax owner, none of the prizes, not even a lens or a flash, would provide me the incentive to run out and spend money on a body to go with it. They can't afford to include a single K10D or K100D on the prize list? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail
Re: Pentax Gallery
Now, Rob, you know that if it is well composed, properly lit, and shot with Velvia it is ART. But crappy ART, of course. chuckle Digital Image Studio wrote: On 14/09/2007, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I say is art, IS art. If it has a frame around it. I say a dog shit with a frame around it is still a dog shit. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentaxian.com Contest
I tend to agree with Tom on this one. I'm glad there is a site and that Pentax is doing something, but the site, beyond the 4 profiles that are there, doesn't really do much for me, even though I am a happy Pentax user. A site like he suggests that would allow any photo postings would be very nice. It would feel like Pentax is giving something back - providing a service to it's users. It could even be a feeder to the photo gallery for the best shots. -- Bruce Thursday, September 13, 2007, 10:50:41 AM, you wrote: TC I don't think I'm being overly critical. Winning a lens or something else TC is fun. Winning a camera body or kit would be even better. I don't see how TC winning or clicking around = inspiring enthusiam though. Regardless of the TC intended purpose for the site, wouldn't inspiring enthusiam regarding Pentax TC among non-users reap a potential larger reward? TC As a current and longtime Pentax owner, why would I care what other Pentax TC owners think about their equipment? I can and have formed my own opinions TC just fine. If there was something I was particularly interested in I would TC research it or come to a place like the PDML. TC As it is, there's just a bunch of things like: TC I love Pentax TC I love my camera TC I have only owned Pentax TC I have used Pentax for 25 years TC What does that tell me? Does reading the accolades make me think *I* love TC Pentax more? Does it give me a warm and fuzzy feeling, that I bought the TC right brand? For me, no. TC Maybe if Pentax had been more critical of themselves, or took it's customers TC feedback, even the negative kind, they would be better for it. TC I'm expressing my opinion about it and just so you know, it's not all TC negative. I like the overall design and I think there should probably be TC alot more photographer profiles, including some better known pros that might TC lend their name. Robert Glenn Ketchum comes to mind. TC http://www.robertglennketchum.com/ TC http://members.aol.com/kevinoneil/rgk.html TC As far as inspiring enthusiam though, why not have a 'Pentax hosted' photo TC sharing site. Not a gallery that requires judges to approve photos, but a TC site where any Pentax user could post their images. That's what photography TC is about, the results, the image. I could see that inspiring enthusiasm. TC Tom C. From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentaxian.com Contest Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:57:37 -0700 How many people who do not already own Pentax equipment would hang out on a Pentaxian community website looking at what other Pentax users had to say? I feel the criticism is misplaced. It's a little easter egg hunt to inspire enthusiasm for pentax users, not a major win a pentax camera contest to draw new users. What I see in so many posts like Tom's is constant criticism of the company and its products, which makes me wonder why those who are so critical of them choose to continue as owners/users. I wouldn't if I were that critical of both company and products. IBM seems to be doing pretty well nowadays. G On Sep 13, 2007, at 9:02 AM, John Sessoms wrote: He does make a valid point though. I'd be far more likely to buy a lens for a camera I just won than I would to buy a camera to fit a lens or a flash ... although I think Pentax'd probably get better marketing value for giving away a camera kit. I'd be far more likely to buy *ANOTHER* lens for a camera I'd won if I could it use right out of the box. And it's far more likely I'd eventually follow an upgrade path once committed to the system than if I have a lens or a flash I couldn't use for anything but a paperweight. Sometimes I wonder if Pentax hired all of IBM's old marketing guys. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A few more images....
Hmmm...I always heard it that You can pick your friends and you can pick your nose, but you can't wipe your friends under the couch. -- Bruce Thursday, September 13, 2007, 12:29:50 PM, you wrote: TC Here it comes: TC You can pick your friends and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick TC your friends nose. TC Well I guess you could, but whether your friend or you would like it is open TC to debate. TC Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A few more images....
Hmmm...I always heard it that You can pick your friends and you can pick your nose, but you can't wipe your friends under the couch. -- Bruce LOL! Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Happy new year to all
On 9/13/07, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May the Lord write you down for blessings this coming year. Regards, Bob S L'shanah tovah! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- Sleigh bells ring are you listinin'?
Like he said, an airplane cockpit. :-) Which is the working end of a garbage truck, BTW? Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO -- Sleigh bells ring are you listinin'? Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:53:55 -0400 It's the controls at the working end of a garbage truck... frank theriault wrote: On 9/14/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wasn't sure if I actually wanted to share this or not, but what the heck. http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20sleighbellsringareyoulisten..html Equipment *ist-Ds/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 AL As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. It's kinda cool. What is it? An airplane cockpit? cheers, frank -- Remember, its pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO Why..
Got a good chuckle out of that one! -- Bruce Thursday, September 13, 2007, 5:48:06 PM, you wrote: DIS ..did you brush my hair like this dad? DIS http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/Thomas/photo?authkey=pzmnlsD2ZJI#5109850268572191650 DIS Before school this morning. DIS evil grin DIS -- DIS Rob Studdert DIS HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA DIS Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours DIS [EMAIL PROTECTED] DIS http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/PESO DIS http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ DIS Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A few more images....
I think I need to get out and get some air. I read couch as crotch which would give this a slightly different meaning... Bruce Dayton wrote: Hmmm...I always heard it that You can pick your friends and you can pick your nose, but you can't wipe your friends under the couch. -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- Sleigh bells ring are you listinin'?
The end they throw he garbage into of course, the other end just gets you there... Tom C wrote: Like he said, an airplane cockpit. :-) Which is the working end of a garbage truck, BTW? Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO -- Sleigh bells ring are you listinin'? Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:53:55 -0400 It's the controls at the working end of a garbage truck... frank theriault wrote: On 9/14/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wasn't sure if I actually wanted to share this or not, but what the heck. http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20sleighbellsringareyoulisten..html Equipment *ist-Ds/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 AL As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. It's kinda cool. What is it? An airplane cockpit? cheers, frank -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.19/1008 - Release Date: 9/14/2007 8:59 AM -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Rejoining the group
Welcome back, glad you remembered us grin. -- Bruce Thursday, September 13, 2007, 11:25:18 AM, you wrote: BL Hi there. BL It's been a while, but I think I might as well resubscribe to the PDML, BL don't you agree? ;-) BL Here is a short digest of things Pentax and things photography that BL happened to us. BL 1. First and foremost, I gave my daughter a 6th birthday present - BL Pentax W30. It was chosen because the lens does not protrude and because BL we can wash it with water if necessary. The only deficiency of this BL camera is that the lens has no cover. But it can be easily cleaned if BL necessary. BL 2. I bought a Spyder and profiled my monitor. It turned out that my eyes BL were not a good match for the colorimeter. BL 3. Our local camera club was sponsored to publish a calendar of our BL photos. Two my photos got accepted. I am a happy camper having three BL copies of the calender for myself. There is slight gotcha. The calendar BL is in Hebrew only. It seems to limit my options as to whom I might give BL it to. BL 4. Most of my photographic activities as of lately were limited to BL Picture A Week project. My records seem to indicate that the last PAW I BL published on PDML was 18th week. So here is the link to all the 2007 BL PAWs: http://not.contaxg.com/folder.php?id=643. You'd know where to BL start from. BL Last but not least - the New (Jewish) Year has just started. So I am BL greeting you with this holiday regardless of your faith or lack thereof. BL Be blessed and let the new year be peaceful for you wherever you are. BL Cheers! BL Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Happy new year to all
I had a very happy New Year winding my way through my brother-in-law's private collection of Pinot Noir... Norm Bob Sullivan wrote: May the Lord write you down for blessings this coming year. Regards, Bob S -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Philly. This weekend.
Cancel your plans. Shelve your excuses. And get on the damn train. Philly, 30th St. train station, 10:30 am, tomorrow. Be there, slacker. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Philly. This weekend.
Nothing to apologize for, We all know Norm's a slacker... Scott Loveless wrote: Sorry. That was meant to be off list to Norm. My apologies. Scott Loveless wrote: Cancel your plans. Shelve your excuses. And get on the damn train. Philly, 30th St. train station, 10:30 am, tomorrow. Be there, slacker. -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Philly. This weekend.
Sorry. That was meant to be off list to Norm. My apologies. Scott Loveless wrote: Cancel your plans. Shelve your excuses. And get on the damn train. Philly, 30th St. train station, 10:30 am, tomorrow. Be there, slacker. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO 2007 - 38d - GDG
On 9/12/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More work on Ground Signs ... http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/38d.htm Comments, critique, etc always appreciated. I like! ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Philly. This weekend.
On 9/14/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry. That was meant to be off list to Norm. My apologies. Like we don't know Norm's a slacker... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Philly. This weekend.
Alas, try as I might, I cannot make this get together :-( I have too many things to get done and only the weekends to work on them. More news this weekend when I am actually not at work, Cesar Panama City, Florida in Baltimore, Maryland -Original Message- From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 14, 2007 12:39 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Philly. This weekend. Cancel your plans. Shelve your excuses. And get on the damn train. Philly, 30th St. train station, 10:30 am, tomorrow. Be there, slacker. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Signing Off?
Hi all, Is there any way to sign off from the list for a brief period? I will be away for a week, and thought it might be better if I avoid having 1000 or more unread messages in my inbox when I return home. Glen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Boris - Week 37 [PESO]
Hi! As per suggestions of one of my friends I had re-edit this image: http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=18804full=1 Have your say. Thanks. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Philly. This weekend.
Hey, hey, hey, I resemble that comment! Norm frank theriault wrote: On 9/14/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry. That was meant to be off list to Norm. My apologies. Like we don't know Norm's a slacker... ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Adobe Lightroom v1.2 now available
Mark Roberts wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Lightroom allows you to export metadata to and from the files you are working with. I don't believe there is a function to export to CSV or plain text files ... for DNG, JPEG, TIFF and PSD files, metadata is appended into the body of the files themselves as they are container formats. But in the case of native format RAW files ... these are handled as read only, so when you export metadata to file with them, the metadata is written into .xmp sidecar files which are plain text and can be opened with any text editor. But it's one .xmp sidecar file per image, isn't it? What I want (and what the Pentax browser does) is to have all the metadata from an entire directory full of images exported into a single file. I guess using Pentax Photo Browser for this purpose isn't particularly onerous, but I do most of my processing in Lightroom and it would be nice if I didn't have to use a separate app. cat is your friend. XMP files are vanilla XML and therefore text files. Just cocatenate all the XMP files to get what you want. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Signing Off?
Scroll down. Keep scrolling. A little bit more. Just below my sig lines. You should see a link for the listinfo page. There are some subscription options there. You can also send unsubscribe requests direclty to the list if you're a glutton for punishment. :) HTH. Glen Tortorella wrote: Hi all, Is there any way to sign off from the list for a brief period? I will be away for a week, and thought it might be better if I avoid having 1000 or more unread messages in my inbox when I return home. Glen -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Signing Off?
On 9/15/07, Glen Tortorella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Is there any way to sign off from the list for a brief period? I will be away for a week, and thought it might be better if I avoid having 1000 or more unread messages in my inbox when I return home. This link at the bottom of every message should be of help: http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Despite what Cotty says Gmail is your friend when it comes to handling list traffic :-) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax Gallery
Well if you want to be anal bout it. On 9/13/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14/09/2007, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I say is art, IS art. If it has a frame around it. I say a dog shit with a frame around it is still a dog shit. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/PESO http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax Gallery
Well if it makes you feel better Frank, if HCB would be here today submitting photos to them, I dont think any of *his* would have been accepted either On 9/13/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To those who've complained that not all of your photos have been accepted in the Pentax Gallery, quit yer bitchin'! Not one of mine has been accepted so far. Not a single one. I've still got about 6 pending, but 6 have been rejected outright. Street shots, still lifes, sports shots (Corner Kick, fer gawd's sake - and if I'm allowed a moment of immodesty, that was a muther of a photo!), portraits. None of it good enough. I no longer hold great hope for my participation in this venture. I kind of feel like not submitting any more. If the 6 that I have pending are rejected, I guess I'll know that I don't measure up to their standards (whatever they may be), and find another place to show my piccies... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Signing Off?
It's all or nothing man, just cut the cord. We'll be here when you come back. Glen Tortorella wrote: Hi all, Is there any way to sign off from the list for a brief period? I will be away for a week, and thought it might be better if I avoid having 1000 or more unread messages in my inbox when I return home. Glen -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentaxian.com Contest
On 9/11/07, John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Holy shit holy shit holy shit holy shit holy shit! I think I just won snip Coolio! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Signing Off?
On 9/14/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's all or nothing man, just cut the cord. We'll be here when you come back. We'll be here. Probably arguing about what art means... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Signing Off?
It's simple Art means what Art sez. frank theriault wrote: On 9/14/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's all or nothing man, just cut the cord. We'll be here when you come back. We'll be here. Probably arguing about what art means... ;-) cheers, frank -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Adobe Lightroom v1.2 now available
On Sep 14, 2007, at 8:30 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Lightroom allows you to export metadata to and from the files you are working with. I don't believe there is a function to export to CSV or plain text files ... for DNG, JPEG, TIFF and PSD files, metadata is appended into the body of the files themselves as they are container formats. But in the case of native format RAW files ... these are handled as read only, so when you export metadata to file with them, the metadata is written into .xmp sidecar files which are plain text and can be opened with any text editor. But it's one .xmp sidecar file per image, isn't it? What I want (and what the Pentax browser does) is to have all the metadata from an entire directory full of images exported into a single file. I guess using Pentax Photo Browser for this purpose isn't particularly onerous, but I do most of my processing in Lightroom and it would be nice if I didn't have to use a separate app. I know what you mean, but I think it's beyond what Lightroom's designers currently have in mind. I'd like to be able to export a text list with selectable parameters drawn from the Library grid mode, like for example: filename - date of capture - date of modification - focal length - iso - exposure time - aperture That facility could be useful for many purposes. I use such listings driven by iView MediaPro fairly often. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Harrisburg PDML is now Philly PDML!
On 9/11/07, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's the love child of punk rock and disco. With different drugs. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - This Is Art!
He's inside. Kenneth Waller wrote: Yeah but I don't see Art. ;=] Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - This Is Art! All this discussion of what art is. Here it is. They're in a gallery, pretty much ignoring the framed thingies on the wall, just like every other opening I've ever gone to: http://tinyurl.com/23cgys http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RuqBc3jQnDI/Ar0/5GSpqLOyMwk/s1600-h/sept_15+001.jpg Actually, the show, backstage photos of a ballet company during performance, was a very good one (but my goodness, the prices!). cheers, frank t -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - This Is Art!
Excellent photo, and your BW rendering in this one is right on the money. bravo, Godfrey On Sep 14, 2007, at 5:50 AM, frank theriault wrote: All this discussion of what art is. Here it is. They're in a gallery, pretty much ignoring the framed thingies on the wall, just like every other opening I've ever gone to: http://tinyurl.com/23cgys http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RuqBc3jQnDI/ Ar0/5GSpqLOyMwk/s1600-h/sept_15+001.jpg Actually, the show, backstage photos of a ballet company during performance, was a very good one (but my goodness, the prices!). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Back From Paradise...
... Hell is close to Ann Arbor... It has been so far this year for a certain college football team time will tell. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Paul Sorenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Back From Paradise... Nope - Paradise is in the UP, Hell is close to Ann Arbor... http://maps.google.com/maps?f=dhl=engeocode=saddr=paradise,+midaddr=hell,+misll=37.0625,-95.677068sspn=27.753016,58.710937ie=UTF8z=7om=1 http://tinyurl.com/22ozsk -p [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is Paradise close to Hell? I enjoyed these pics as well. Interesting experiment. Paul -- Original message -- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 9/12/07, Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paradise, Michigan that is... Just got resubscribed after a week in a little cabin on Whitefish Point - no internet and limited TV (5 channels, 3 of them Canadian). Unfortunately, cell phones now work up there. After months of drought the rain came with us - and while my wife and I managed to hike the North Country Trail or Taqua Trail most days, we spent one day in the cabin as rain poured down, and it rained almost every night. So much for northern lights photos with the LX. Based on a bucket we left outside, the cabin got over 5 inches of rain while we were there. That extinguished the fire that was burning up the nearby peat bogs. Anyhow - I didn't plan on doing much photography, and ultimately decided to leave the 6x7 kit at home and brought only the digital stuff and 35mm gear. I have to say I never touched the Mz-S or LX, but did shoot a bit with the K10D. I was rather disappointed with the auto-focus performance of the K10D and DA 16-45 f4 lens. It seemed to have a distinct problem getting a lock for landscapes or scenics where the lens was basically focusing at infinity. This was especially true at the wide end. No problems with closer focusing and no problems with other lenses, so maybe my 16-45 has something awry with it. Anyhow - several months after Grandfather Mountain the Tony Sweet effect finally settled in, and I wound up spending a fair amount of time shooting controlled motion blurred shots (bouncing the camera around or ultra long exposures hand held) and doing in-focus / out of focus multi exposures. For those who have read this far - a small gallery: http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/stream/stream09.htm Incredible work, as always, Mark! cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Petunia
Nicely done. Looks like a handsome cat. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Petunia Just an updated kitty portrait for the cat rescue group site, but it turned out rather better than I expected http://panix.com/~johnf/temp/Petunia.jpg Pentax *ist D, DA 18-55 @ 55mm, 1/15 @ f5.6, ISO 200 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - This Is Art!
Yeah but I don't see Art. ;=] Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - This Is Art! All this discussion of what art is. Here it is. They're in a gallery, pretty much ignoring the framed thingies on the wall, just like every other opening I've ever gone to: http://tinyurl.com/23cgys http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RuqBc3jQnDI/Ar0/5GSpqLOyMwk/s1600-h/sept_15+001.jpg Actually, the show, backstage photos of a ballet company during performance, was a very good one (but my goodness, the prices!). cheers, frank t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Back From Paradise...
Is Paradise close to Hell? Only a few hundred miles apart. Interesting that Paradise is above the bridge while Hell is below the bridge with the trolls. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Back From Paradise... Is Paradise close to Hell? I enjoyed these pics as well. Interesting experiment. Paul -- Original message -- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 9/12/07, Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paradise, Michigan that is... Just got resubscribed after a week in a little cabin on Whitefish Point - no internet and limited TV (5 channels, 3 of them Canadian). Unfortunately, cell phones now work up there. After months of drought the rain came with us - and while my wife and I managed to hike the North Country Trail or Taqua Trail most days, we spent one day in the cabin as rain poured down, and it rained almost every night. So much for northern lights photos with the LX. Based on a bucket we left outside, the cabin got over 5 inches of rain while we were there. That extinguished the fire that was burning up the nearby peat bogs. Anyhow - I didn't plan on doing much photography, and ultimately decided to leave the 6x7 kit at home and brought only the digital stuff and 35mm gear. I have to say I never touched the Mz-S or LX, but did shoot a bit with the K10D. I was rather disappointed with the auto-focus performance of the K10D and DA 16-45 f4 lens. It seemed to have a distinct problem getting a lock for landscapes or scenics where the lens was basically focusing at infinity. This was especially true at the wide end. No problems with closer focusing and no problems with other lenses, so maybe my 16-45 has something awry with it. Anyhow - several months after Grandfather Mountain the Tony Sweet effect finally settled in, and I wound up spending a fair amount of time shooting controlled motion blurred shots (bouncing the camera around or ultra long exposures hand held) and doing in-focus / out of focus multi exposures. For those who have read this far - a small gallery: http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/stream/stream09.htm Incredible work, as always, Mark! cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Signing Off?
That was not true of my dad. (His name was Art, for those who find my comment confusing) P. J. Alling wrote: It's simple Art means what Art sez. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Nikon D300 sample photos
From: Digital Image Studio On 14/09/2007, Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I'm wondering about is when anyone is going to manufacture a sensor that actually capture sharp images Indeed, I think it's appalling that people will have to put up with ISO3200 images of this quality: http://chsv.nikon-image.com/jpn/products/camera/slr/digital/d3/img/sample/pic_004.jpg I'm guessing that's sarcasm, although I did get a crick in my neck trying to turn sideways to actually look at it. Gotta get me one of them monitors that has the swivel arm so you can rotate it for vertical shots. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Price of Pentax Lenses in Australia
Not quite. The tax is essentially a one time charge to the end user, but it is charged at every step along the way. Each business that is charged GST can claim it back and then charges 10% on what they sell. For example a printer will buy paper $100 and be charged GST $10 for a total of $110. They pay the $110 but claim the $10 back from the tax office so effectively get it for $100. The printer then produces books for $10 plus $1 GST so $11 is paid by the book shop who claim $1 back. Book shop sells it for $20 +$2 GST and the end user pays $22. Tax has effectively been paid once, but every business is continually paying and claiming back tax. It's a lot of work for every business keeping track of it. Farmers have an interesting time of it. They don't charge GST (There is no GST on unprocessed food), but pay tax on fertiliser, stock feed, etc so they are continually getting tax back, but are out of pocket for up to 6 months depending on how they have structured their tax. Pentax Content. On the subject of the lenses, taking into account that the self import price is GST free they aren't too bad except for the 50-135. But keep in mind that the warranty you get on the imported lenses is only valid in the US and you have to post it back for any service (or pay for anything done here in Australia). I'm waiting to see what prices are on the 60-250 before I decide on my next lens purchase. Leon http://www.bluering.org.au http://www.bluering.org.au/leon Peter McIntosh wrote: A one-time charge, thankfully. Although don't say that too loud - our government might hear you and decide they like the idea... Then again, it's election time, so this would probably get buried. For now. Prices still suck. Ciao, Peter in western Sydney P. J. Alling wrote: Is that a one time tax at time of purchase, or is it assessed every time the item changes hands in classic value added tax fashion? Peter McIntosh wrote: We have a national 10% GST (goods and services tax). There are no additional city/state taxes. The prices still suck. Ciao, Peter in western Sydney P. J. Alling wrote: Those prices don't seem so out of line, if I assume that the Australian price includes a 17% VAT. Maybe it's your government you should be complaining about. In the US sales taxes are on the order of 4-10% and are assessed by a State Government and sometimes by a City or County Government in addition to the sales price. When I take that into account the prices for the lenses seem downright reasonable. Charles Wilson wrote: Dear All, I'm getting quiet sick of the inflated prices of Pentax lenses in Australia. When are Pentax going to give Australian customers some decent prices and rebates. For example I can get the following lenses imported to Australia from USA with freight for DA 50-135 $1046 Australian price$1513 DA 70 $ 594 $663 DA 12-24$910 $1077 DA 21 $568 $699 I am more than happy to support Australian retailers but not at a $500 premium on the DA 50-135. What do others think. Regards Charles Wilson Sydney -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - This Is Art!
You can see Frank, though. And his bicycle (with frame). On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 03:35:03PM -0400, Kenneth Waller wrote: Yeah but I don't see Art. ;=] Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - This Is Art! All this discussion of what art is. Here it is. They're in a gallery, pretty much ignoring the framed thingies on the wall, just like every other opening I've ever gone to: http://tinyurl.com/23cgys http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RuqBc3jQnDI/Ar0/5GSpqLOyMwk/s1600-h/sept_15+001.jpg Actually, the show, backstage photos of a ballet company during performance, was a very good one (but my goodness, the prices!). cheers, frank t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - This Is Art!
On 9/14/07, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can see Frank, though. And his bicycle (with frame). Nope. Not my bike. It rained that morning, so I was a subway commuter that day... :-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Back From Paradise...
From: Paul Sorenson Nope - Paradise is in the UP, Well, it used to be in Muhlenberg County Kentucky, along the Green River, that is, until Mister Peabody's coal train ... hauled it away -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - This Is Art!
frank theriault wrote: Not my bike. It rained that morning, so I was a subway commuter that day... Wimp! ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Back From Paradise...
The first and second strike me as being quite nice. Maybe even, dare I say, artsy. :-) Tom C. From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Back From Paradise... Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 16:25:44 -0700 (PDT) Paradise, Michigan that is... Just got resubscribed after a week in a little cabin on Whitefish Point - no internet and limited TV (5 channels, 3 of them Canadian). Unfortunately, cell phones now work up there. After months of drought the rain came with us - and while my wife and I managed to hike the North Country Trail or Taqua Trail most days, we spent one day in the cabin as rain poured down, and it rained almost every night. So much for northern lights photos with the LX. Based on a bucket we left outside, the cabin got over 5 inches of rain while we were there. That extinguished the fire that was burning up the nearby peat bogs. Anyhow - I didn't plan on doing much photography, and ultimately decided to leave the 6x7 kit at home and brought only the digital stuff and 35mm gear. I have to say I never touched the Mz-S or LX, but did shoot a bit with the K10D. I was rather disappointed with the auto-focus performance of the K10D and DA 16-45 f4 lens. It seemed to have a distinct problem getting a lock for landscapes or scenics where the lens was basically focusing at infinity. This was especially true at the wide end. No problems with closer focusing and no problems with other lenses, so maybe my 16-45 has something awry with it. Anyhow - several months after Grandfather Mountain the Tony Sweet effect finally settled in, and I wound up spending a fair amount of time shooting controlled motion blurred shots (bouncing the camera around or ultra long exposures hand held) and doing in-focus / out of focus multi exposures. For those who have read this far - a small gallery: http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/stream/stream09.htm - MCC -- Mark Cassino Photography Kalamamazoo, MI www.markcassino.com Photo Books: www.lulu.com/cassino -- Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax Gallery
Are you going to start that shit again! From: Gonz Well if you want to be anal bout it. On 9/13/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14/09/2007, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I say is art, IS art. If it has a frame around it. I say a dog shit with a frame around it is still a dog shit. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Nikon D300 sample photos
On 15/09/2007, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm guessing that's sarcasm, although I did get a crick in my neck trying to turn sideways to actually look at it. Gotta get me one of them monitors that has the swivel arm so you can rotate it for vertical shots. Sarcasm? Indeed, at its height. You don't have to bother with the monitor, just get an image viewer that respects the EXIF rotation tag ;-) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/PESO http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
