Re: PESO -- The Matron
Save the image in photoshop as gif or png and select the border color as transparent. All web browsers replace this color with the background color or background image. Most image editors support transparency for gif and png. Toine On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 10:39 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something a little different. I was asked to cover an event for some Civil War (US) Reenactors giving a small presentation of the life in the early to mid Victorian era, specifically the period of the American Civil War. I shot a whole lot of rather banal photos. However I did a few posed shots of the cast came out better than expected. I've been playing around with them and this is the first I think is sort of worth showing. Now there are a number of problems, which are my fault. The vignette is too close too the edge of the image, and I know it. However I want the image background to bleed into the web page background. I'm having a devil of a time getting that to happen. Even though the background color of the image is supposed to be the same as the background color of the web page as you can see they don't match. Anyone who has a suggestion about that I'd really appreciate it. I'm going to put a number of these on a Web page eventually with links to the rest of the color images... http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/peso-thematron.html Equipment: smc Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax A 28mm f2.8 Notes: Converted to BW using Fotomatic BW Plus, (Blue Filter applied to emulate 19th Century photo emulsions, Sepia toned for the same reason). Vignette applied in Photoshop. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: A70-210 questions
Scott, there are 2 versions, SMC and non-SMC. They're both good, but the SMC version is substantially better in both optical and build terms. Naturally this affects the prices, so be careful! Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Loveless Sent: 08 May 2008 01:48 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: A70-210 questions Regarding the A70-210, this is the zoom everyone likes, right? Ballpark figure for a bargain grade lens(KEH rating), what sounds like a fair price? Thanks folks. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Anyone using a Bigma 50-500..................
I have the bigma and ... 1. Does SR work effectively? Yes but not as effectively as at the short end.. I estimate the effectiveness at the long end (above 300mm) to be around 1 - 1 1/2 stops. 2. Is the lens type displayed correctly in the EXIF i.e. Sigma 50-500 EX? No ACR just says sigma 3. Aprroximate aperture when zoomed at 300mm f/4, f/4.5, f/5.6? IIRC its somewhere around 5.6 4. Does the lens extend when zoomed? Yes 5. Does the front element rotate when focusing? No One thing to note about the Bigma is that it is have so a good tripod/head is almost a must. I use a manfrotto 055pro + a manfrotto 393 gimbal head the combo works very well. Hand-held shots are not out of the question but your hit rate will take a hit. :-) The weight also means that handleld shoots tend to be short in duration. In good light the af is reasonably fast and accurate (at least on my K10D). Regards Patrick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A70-210 questions
Of course you will lose AF compared to 50-200 etc. but you will gain beter construction and constant F/4 aperture. Oh and it is a one ring zoom+focus if I rememeber well. Choice is yours, Scott: decide what's the most important for you. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
OK...OK...enough. It would just be nice to have the two EX converters I have work effectively with the shake reduction feature, especially being as Pentax don't *currently* have a teleconverter in production. Looks like I'm left covering up pin 7 on the EX Tc's and perhaps digging out the A 2X-S and giving that I try. It's a PITA that I have a 70-200/2.8 and 1.4x Tc and I can't use AF or SR. I need some longer lenses. Regards, John On Thu, 8 May 2008 10:53:00 +0800, David Savage wrote Those people are retarded. It's not Pentax's fault that an unsupported 3rd part accessory's doesn't work. Cheers, Dave The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: A70-210 questions
IIRC the non-SMC is 70-200 and the SMC 70-210. Regards, John On Thu, 8 May 2008 07:55:12 +0100, Bob W wrote Scott, there are 2 versions, SMC and non-SMC. They're both good, but the SMC version is substantially better in both optical and build terms. Naturally this affects the prices, so be careful! Bob The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
At 03:27 PM 8/05/2008, you wrote: OK...OK...enough. It would just be nice to have the two EX converters I have work effectively with the shake reduction feature, especially being as Pentax don't *currently* have a teleconverter in production. I don't disagree, but for the Pentax Forums simpletons to blame Pentax for the behavior of another manufacturers product on their camera is silly. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
Yes, agreed. Regards, John On Thu, 08 May 2008 15:45:46 +0800, David Savage wrote At 03:27 PM 8/05/2008, you wrote: OK...OK...enough. It would just be nice to have the two EX converters I have work effectively with the shake reduction feature, especially being as Pentax don't *currently* have a teleconverter in production. I don't disagree, but for the Pentax Forums simpletons to blame Pentax for the behavior of another manufacturers product on their camera is silly. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Anyone using a Bigma 50-500..................
Hi Patrick Thanks for the reply, very much appreciated. I think the only thing putting me off is the lens extending when zoomed, it's the main reason why I sold the 135-400 I had. Having said that it does keep the size down when transporting the lens in a camera bag. One last question, if I may, is the zoom control overly stiff in operation? (it was on the 135-400 but that isn't/wasn't an EX lens) Regards, John On Thu, 8 May 2008 09:01:25 +0200, Patrick Genovese wrote I have the bigma and ... 1. Does SR work effectively? Yes but not as effectively as at the short end.. I estimate the effectiveness at the long end (above 300mm) to be around 1 - 1 1/2 stops. 2. Is the lens type displayed correctly in the EXIF i.e. Sigma 50-500 EX? No ACR just says sigma 3. Aprroximate aperture when zoomed at 300mm f/4, f/4.5, f/5.6? IIRC its somewhere around 5.6 4. Does the lens extend when zoomed? Yes 5. Does the front element rotate when focusing? No One thing to note about the Bigma is that it is have so a good tripod/head is almost a must. I use a manfrotto 055pro + a manfrotto 393 gimbal head the combo works very well. Hand-held shots are not out of the question but your hit rate will take a hit. :-) The weight also means that handleld shoots tend to be short in duration. In good light the af is reasonably fast and accurate (at least on my K10D). Regards Patrick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: A70-210 questions
dont buy a bargain grade a70-210 zoom, the zoom mechanism will be worn out in most cases. YOu can get this superb lens in like new condition on ebay for $150 or less fairly easily. They are very commonly found as far as A lenses go. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Loveless Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 8:48 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: A70-210 questions Regarding the A70-210, this is the zoom everyone likes, right? Ballpark figure for a bargain grade lens(KEH rating), what sounds like a fair price? Thanks folks. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: A70-210 questions
It will be substantially BETTER than both of those on a FF Pentax DSLR when she arrives. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 11:03 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: A70-210 questions $120-170 was the range for a VG+ in 2006, IIRC. It's a good lens, but not substantially better than a DA50-200 or FA80-320 by my testing. Godfrey On May 7, 2008, at 5:48 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: Regarding the A70-210, this is the zoom everyone likes, right? Ballpark figure for a bargain grade lens(KEH rating), what sounds like a fair price? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: A70-210 questions
To clarify, there is the Takumar-A which sux, and the SMC Pentax-A which is excellent. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 2:55 AM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: A70-210 questions Scott, there are 2 versions, SMC and non-SMC. They're both good, but the SMC version is substantially better in both optical and build terms. Naturally this affects the prices, so be careful! Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Loveless Sent: 08 May 2008 01:48 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: A70-210 questions Regarding the A70-210, this is the zoom everyone likes, right? Ballpark figure for a bargain grade lens(KEH rating), what sounds like a fair price? Thanks folks. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Anyone using a Bigma 50-500..................
From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/05/07 Wed PM 03:47:49 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Anyone using a Bigma 50-500.. On an unrelated note, John you really should think about deleting the Carmel College legalese on your PDML messages. That stuff is archived I don't know how your employers feel about private correspondence on company email, but my boss would pitch a fit if I did that he found out. You are assuming that managers in the British education system have any comptetence. In my experience, that is a very big mistake. :-D Cheers, Dave 2008/5/7 John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED]: on a K10D or K20D, could you please advise on the following: 1. Does SR work effectively? 2. Is the lens type displayed correctly in the EXIF i.e. Sigma 50-500 EX? 3. Aprroximate aperture when zoomed at 300mm f/4, f/4.5, f/5.6? 4. Does the lens extend when zoomed? 5. Does the front element rotate when focusing? Any comments on performance/sample images much appreciated. I think summer arrived in the UK yesterday 8) John The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
I bet the reason why is because TCs suck in general and really suck the big one on APS sensored cameras. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Savage Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 3:46 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D...yet! At 03:27 PM 8/05/2008, you wrote: OK...OK...enough. It would just be nice to have the two EX converters I have work effectively with the shake reduction feature, especially being as Pentax don't *currently* have a teleconverter in production. I don't disagree, but for the Pentax Forums simpletons to blame Pentax for the behavior of another manufacturers product on their camera is silly. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Fist Cardinal
Ken Waller a écrit : true i'd never have guessed the Jays were a base ball team That's a cardinal sin around Toronto... Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f ROTFL .. dom http://www.flickr.com/photos/romdomi/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/05/07 Wed PM 07:40:30 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D...yet! John Whittingham wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/24491-k20d- teleconverters.html Wow. I take back everything I've ever said about DP Review people being neurotic! William's on the case. Armageddon can only be a few posts away. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- The Matron
Looking at the source code for the webpage, the background colour specified in the body tag is RGB 235, 217, 205. In Photoshop, the background colour for the image reads as RGB 245, 232, 224. If you edit the body tag to read 245, 232, 224, the image will blend into the page. And it looks good Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Wed, 07 May 2008 16:39:12 -0400, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Something a little different. I was asked to cover an event for some Civil War (US) Reenactors giving a small presentation of the life in the early to mid Victorian era, specifically the period of the American Civil War. I shot a whole lot of rather banal photos. However I did a few posed shots of the cast came out better than expected. I've been playing around with them and this is the first I think is sort of worth showing. Now there are a number of problems, which are my fault. The vignette is too close too the edge of the image, and I know it. However I want the image background to bleed into the web page background. I'm having a devil of a time getting that to happen. Even though the background color of the image is supposed to be the same as the background color of the web page as you can see they don't match. Anyone who has a suggestion about that I'd really appreciate it. I'm going to put a number of these on a Web page eventually with links to the rest of the color images... http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/peso-thematron.html Equipment: smc Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax A 28mm f2.8 Notes: Converted to BW using Fotomatic BW Plus, (Blue Filter applied to emulate 19th Century photo emulsions, Sepia toned for the same reason). Vignette applied in Photoshop. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Anyone using a Bigma 50-500..................
To be honest I had the same concern prior to buying the lens but as it turns out the zoom mechanism is very smooth and is well damped to permit smooth control.. So is the AF .. it has a focus clutch for MF that damps the af ring very nicely. The only down side of the extending zoom is that it shifts the balance slightly although this is not a major concern. I found that the damping on my manfrotto 393 handles this shift in balance well enough that i can let go of the camera/lens combo in any zoom position and the camera will stay put where i leave it. The lens also features a zoom lock that prevents the lens from extending when being carried. Bottom line ... in real life i don't find that the extending zoom is an issue. My only peeve with the lens (and all sigma ex lenses) is that the lovely sigma EX finish tends to scuff quite easily. regards Patrick On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 9:58 AM, John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Patrick Thanks for the reply, very much appreciated. I think the only thing putting me off is the lens extending when zoomed, it's the main reason why I sold the 135-400 I had. Having said that it does keep the size down when transporting the lens in a camera bag. One last question, if I may, is the zoom control overly stiff in operation? (it was on the 135-400 but that isn't/wasn't an EX lens) Regards, John On Thu, 8 May 2008 09:01:25 +0200, Patrick Genovese wrote I have the bigma and ... 1. Does SR work effectively? Yes but not as effectively as at the short end.. I estimate the effectiveness at the long end (above 300mm) to be around 1 - 1 1/2 stops. 2. Is the lens type displayed correctly in the EXIF i.e. Sigma 50-500 EX? No ACR just says sigma 3. Aprroximate aperture when zoomed at 300mm f/4, f/4.5, f/5.6? IIRC its somewhere around 5.6 4. Does the lens extend when zoomed? Yes 5. Does the front element rotate when focusing? No One thing to note about the Bigma is that it is have so a good tripod/head is almost a must. I use a manfrotto 055pro + a manfrotto 393 gimbal head the combo works very well. Hand-held shots are not out of the question but your hit rate will take a hit. :-) The weight also means that handleld shoots tend to be short in duration. In good light the af is reasonably fast and accurate (at least on my K10D). Regards Patrick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Regards Patrick Genovese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Split tone
William Robb wrote: On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 2:43 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a plant for Gods sake! Grow up! Grumble grumble What's this then? http://pug.komkon.org/02apr/maria.html Geez, that is one beautiful photo. I'm going through a 19th century phase. D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: McJunkyard
Brian Walters wrote: Given that the world economy is on a downturn, is this the time for McDonalds to be diversifying?. http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/87764/McJunkyard.html Cheers Brian (PS: In case anyone is wondering, the sign reads Reward: Lost dog, black and white, one eye, 1/2 an ear, 3 legs, 1 nut, no tail. Quiet and friendly. Answers to the name 'Lucky') ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ Triffic. Scott, can we have a theme for next year called Hard Light? I think Australians would have a leg up on it. And Brian especially. D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: A70-210 questions
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/05/08 Thu AM 06:55:12 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: A70-210 questions Scott, there are 2 versions, SMC and non-SMC. They're both good, but the SMC version is substantially better in both optical and build terms. Naturally this affects the prices, so be careful! Bob I was going to mention this. The non-SMC is actually a 70-200 but is very similar in construction. If you are buying from a dealer, it would be very easy for them to honestly mistake one for the other. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Loveless Sent: 08 May 2008 01:48 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: A70-210 questions Regarding the A70-210, this is the zoom everyone likes, right? Ballpark figure for a bargain grade lens(KEH rating), what sounds like a fair price? Thanks folks. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Bleeding Heart
Paul Stenquist a écrit : http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7234010size=lg I just love those flowers , called Mary's hearts (coeurs de Marie ) over here and i've got some in a container . One of the signs Spring is coming ... great photo ! dom http://www.flickr.com/photos/romdomi/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: McJunkyard
Brian Walters a écrit : Given that the world economy is on a downturn, is this the time for McDonalds to be diversifying?. http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/87764/McJunkyard.html Cheers Brian (PS: In case anyone is wondering, the sign reads Reward: Lost dog, black and white, one eye, 1/2 an ear, 3 legs, 1 nut, no tail. Quiet and friendly. Answers to the name 'Lucky'' Quite an optimistic vision of the future . ;-) dom http://www.flickr.com/photos/romdomi/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Anyone using a Bigma 50-500..................
LOL John On Thu, 8 May 2008 8:23:38 +, mike wilson wrote From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/05/07 Wed PM 03:47:49 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Anyone using a Bigma 50-500.. On an unrelated note, John you really should think about deleting the Carmel College legalese on your PDML messages. That stuff is archived I don't know how your employers feel about private correspondence on company email, but my boss would pitch a fit if I did that he found out. You are assuming that managers in the British education system have any comptetence. In my experience, that is a very big mistake. :-D Cheers, Dave 2008/5/7 John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED]: on a K10D or K20D, could you please advise on the following: 1. Does SR work effectively? 2. Is the lens type displayed correctly in the EXIF i.e. Sigma 50-500 EX? 3. Aprroximate aperture when zoomed at 300mm f/4, f/4.5, f/5.6? 4. Does the lens extend when zoomed? 5. Does the front element rotate when focusing? Any comments on performance/sample images much appreciated. I think summer arrived in the UK yesterday 8) John The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
On Thu, 8 May 2008 04:21:10 -0400, J. C. O'Connell wrote I bet the reason why is because TCs suck in general and really suck the big one on APS sensored cameras. jco mwahahaha.. 8) The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Anyone using a Bigma 50-500..................
On Thu, 8 May 2008 11:02:54 +0200, Patrick Genovese wrote To be honest I had the same concern prior to buying the lens but as it turns out the zoom mechanism is very smooth and is well damped to permit smooth control.. So is the AF .. it has a focus clutch for MF that damps the af ring very nicely. The only down side of the extending zoom is that it shifts the balance slightly although this is not a major concern. I found that the damping on my manfrotto 393 handles this shift in balance well enough that i can let go of the camera/lens combo in any zoom position and the camera will stay put where i leave it. The lens also features a zoom lock that prevents the lens from extending when being carried. Bottom line ... in real life i don't find that the extending zoom is an issue. Thanks Patrick, that's reassuring to know. I was thinking of trying to find a Sigma 400 f/5.6 APO Tele Macro to go with the 70-200/2.8 EX and 300/4 APO but considering the weight I'd be carrying and the problems I have with teleconverters the Bigma is looking like a better solution. In reality the Sigma 300-800 would be great but funds won't allow. My only peeve with the lens (and all sigma ex lenses) is that the lovely sigma EX finish tends to scuff quite easily. Yes I've experienced that too. regards Patrick Regards, John The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: More on my K10D test using AF and MF
Thanks Paul. There might have been some operator error on the A50 ,thus I will redo those. I doubt there was on the DA 50. Slik 700 Pro with suppled QR plate.:-) Tested from wide open to F8, both in MF and AF. I'll redo some tests using other items than the focus chart as a just in case. I';ll print them off and send them in so they can see. I just wish they would return my calls, almost as bad as Nikon service, so i can discuss it. Dave On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep. Manual focus problems have to be mirror box problems. Or operator error. And if you have both autofocus and manual focus problems, they're unrelated. Of course any tests have to be done off a tripod, particularly at wide aps. Paul On May 7, 2008, at 2:47 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Just had a quick look at the focus chart and some other items i shot Tuesday. I think i should get in a bit closer, but, there is definate concerns with the DA 50 F2.8 both in AF and MF modes. Around 30mm at F2.8. Tried the A50 F1.7 as well and it shows problems to. However i'm going to have to redo them, as the focus is all over the place at various Ap's.Some front, some back. Tried wide open up to F8, on both lenses. Did some one say, that if i was having focus issues using MF, it would be more of a mirrior or focus screen issue. Or my issue.:-) Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A70-210 questions
Scott, its a good lens.:-0 Dave On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 8:48 PM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regarding the A70-210, this is the zoom everyone likes, right? Ballpark figure for a bargain grade lens(KEH rating), what sounds like a fair price? Thanks folks. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: contacts. was AF lenses on AF 1.7X adapter
On Wed, 07 May 2008 11:51:47 -0400, P. J. Alling wrote: James wrote: Very well put. But please explain why every AF sigma lens I have doesn't show the correct apature range on my super A. despite haveing some A contacts. It's Sigma. cannot argue there. I have an older sigma AF lens that works ok on my MZ7 but won't at all on my K10D and MZ60 and the super A gives Apature readings outside the range the lens has. So now it is a single camera use lens. Also why does the MZ60 have only 2 contacts missing when it was never designed to use A lenses at all. It's just possible that some A information is necessary for the Digital protocol to work and the MZ60 reads what it needs to. Ya think? personally. No. Why does the sigma lens when I pulled it apart have all contacts except for the * go via a flexiable circuit trace to a board in the lens when all that is required of A contacts is to be shorted or open? Sigma probably thought it could control which contact was open or shorted dynamically and fool the camera electronics. Which being Sigma they failed miserably at. (Here I'm guessing the first part but I'm sure about the second). Tracing the circuit in the lens is very hard and for my older eyes, twice as much. Couldn't get very far with this part. If what you say is true, then the MZ60 should only have the digital pin which it doesn't. No, because the digital protocol builds on the A protocol, it needs the information conveyed by the r pins, why that choice was made I don't know, but I'm not guessing, I'm thinking. I also think the R pins are used for digital comunations as well. It is very easy to add extra functions to pins on both sides (camera and lens) for the F protocal while retaining backward compatiability. (except for sigma) Incendently. My DA*16-50 lens has an extra full contact on it's metal mount compared to all other lenses I have. Looks like Pentax have added an extra function to one of the 'm' pins. maybe for SDM. Sorry, it's just bad design. If Pentax was going to double up on a pin's functionality it wouldn't have instituted a separate digital contact. There were plenty of A pins already. Pentax made good design decisions up till now, I don't expect them to stop. Maybe Pentax added the extra one for some engineering reason. Also depends on what type of serial protocal they used When I alerted Boz to the very limited MZ60, even he asked what do the other contacts do Maybe Boz was simply telling you to go pound sand. He also asked the same of someone else, I can only assume some guy who has provided some tech info for boz so far, noone can answer. Since the MZ60 is only interested in the maximum aperture, (check the chart on the Ka page on Boz's site I'll leave it to you to figure out what the r pins and the m pins convey, the pattern isn't hard to figure out), I can assume that the digital protocol tells the camera all it needs to know about the minimum aperture and the m are superfluous, I say that because it works perfectly well without them. . Ithink all pins are used in some form of digital protocol. why get only one aperture value digitally when all of it can be done at the same time. I have tried to measure what is happening with my digital multi meter set to logic level. ie logic probe. All I got from all pins was pulsing. ie all went high low high low very quickly. none were stuck high or low Even the digital pin which I think is power. maybe pentax only powers the lens when the camera wants info from the lens thus saving battery power ? If I had a 10 input logic analyser, I would be able to say for sure what is happening. James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
David Savage wrote: Those people are retarded. It's not Pentax's fault that an unsupported 3rd part accessory's doesn't work. It's not even the 3rd-party manufacturer's fault: The teleconverters they're complaining about were designed before the shake reduction system was even invented! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: McJunkyard
Hi all Thanks for the comments on this. Replying to a few specific comments. Dave: It also sounds like a really neat place to have a lookie loo. You could spend hours there and not explore half of it! It covers 2-3 acres. Charles: Nice super-saturated colors there! Hand on my heart - I didn't touch the saturation slider with this one! Bob You guys are bating me... Bob S. Um. What am I missing here?? Jack: Beautifully seen and rendered, Brian. Vivid colors work for me..in this case! (would even like to see a little more on the left) I don't have a wide enough lens :-) Derby: Scott, can we have a theme for next year called Hard Light? I think Australians would have a leg up on it. And Brian especially. Yes, I'll be in that!!. One of the problems with this site is that they don't open their gates until 10am. The sun's quite high at that time even in mid winter. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney, Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Accessible with your email software or over the web -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- The Matron
P. J. Alling wrote: Now there are a number of problems, which are my fault. The vignette is too close too the edge of the image, and I know it. However I want the image background to bleed into the web page background. I'm having a devil of a time getting that to happen. Even though the background color of the image is supposed to be the same as the background color of the web page as you can see they don't match. Anyone who has a suggestion about that I'd really appreciate it. I'm going to put a number of these on a Web page eventually with links to the rest of the color images... http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/peso-thematron.html You may have a colorspace matching problem responsible for your image background not matching your image background. Check that out first. You could also save the images in PNG format and just cut out the background area of the photo, leaving it as transparent. Three downsides to PNG: Larger file sizes than JPEG No ICC profile embedding (not significant for this type of image, IMO) Browser incompatibility issues with IE 6 and lower (less than 2.5% of users, in my experience) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A70-210 questions
Scott Loveless wrote: Regarding the A70-210, this is the zoom everyone likes, right? Ballpark figure for a bargain grade lens(KEH rating), what sounds like a fair price? Probably around $100-$150 for Bargain rating, depending on just how much of a bargain the lens is :) Really nice lens. It's 1:4 macro capability can be really useful and I've seen stunning work from it. Add an extension tube or achromatic close-up lens and you'll have a really nice do-it-all macro/telephoto lens. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
On Thu, 08 May 2008 08:05:17 -0400, Mark Roberts wrote David Savage wrote: Those people are retarded. It's not Pentax's fault that an unsupported 3rd part accessory's doesn't work. It's not even the 3rd-party manufacturer's fault: The teleconverters they're complaining about were designed before the shake reduction system was even invented! Yeah, that's fare comment. The problem's been bugging me for a while and I stumbled across the thread whilst looking for solutions..andthe red mist descended. I've got the A2X-S out this morning but I'm too busy the next few days to go and test things out. John The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- The Matron
Nice work, Peter. I'd like to see it larger. You may want to bring down the highlights on her gloves a bit. Paul On May 8, 2008, at 2:48 AM, Toine wrote: Save the image in photoshop as gif or png and select the border color as transparent. All web browsers replace this color with the background color or background image. Most image editors support transparency for gif and png. Toine On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 10:39 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something a little different. I was asked to cover an event for some Civil War (US) Reenactors giving a small presentation of the life in the early to mid Victorian era, specifically the period of the American Civil War. I shot a whole lot of rather banal photos. However I did a few posed shots of the cast came out better than expected. I've been playing around with them and this is the first I think is sort of worth showing. Now there are a number of problems, which are my fault. The vignette is too close too the edge of the image, and I know it. However I want the image background to bleed into the web page background. I'm having a devil of a time getting that to happen. Even though the background color of the image is supposed to be the same as the background color of the web page as you can see they don't match. Anyone who has a suggestion about that I'd really appreciate it. I'm going to put a number of these on a Web page eventually with links to the rest of the color images... http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/peso-thematron.html Equipment: smc Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax A 28mm f2.8 Notes: Converted to BW using Fotomatic BW Plus, (Blue Filter applied to emulate 19th Century photo emulsions, Sepia toned for the same reason). Vignette applied in Photoshop. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
The A2X-S is one of the best converters I've run across. And it will at least transmit aperture information. Paul On May 8, 2008, at 3:27 AM, John Whittingham wrote: OK...OK...enough. It would just be nice to have the two EX converters I have work effectively with the shake reduction feature, especially being as Pentax don't *currently* have a teleconverter in production. Looks like I'm left covering up pin 7 on the EX Tc's and perhaps digging out the A 2X-S and giving that I try. It's a PITA that I have a 70-200/2.8 and 1.4x Tc and I can't use AF or SR. I need some longer lenses. Regards, John On Thu, 8 May 2008 10:53:00 +0800, David Savage wrote Those people are retarded. It's not Pentax's fault that an unsupported 3rd part accessory's doesn't work. Cheers, Dave -- -- The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Bleeding Heart
Thank you Dom. On May 8, 2008, at 5:36 AM, Mme RD wrote: Paul Stenquist a écrit : http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7234010size=lg I just love those flowers , called Mary's hearts (coeurs de Marie ) over here and i've got some in a container . One of the signs Spring is coming ... great photo ! dom http://www.flickr.com/photos/romdomi/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
Here's a shot with the A500/5.6 and the A2X-S converter on the K20D. Minor fringing in the background, but that could be fixed if I wasn't so lazy :-). Converters aren't perfect but the A2X-S is a very good one. And, despite what someone here said, it works just as well on APS-C as it does on a full frame film camera. Why wouldn't it? Paul http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7053676size=lg On May 8, 2008, at 8:26 AM, John Whittingham wrote: On Thu, 08 May 2008 08:05:17 -0400, Mark Roberts wrote David Savage wrote: Those people are retarded. It's not Pentax's fault that an unsupported 3rd part accessory's doesn't work. It's not even the 3rd-party manufacturer's fault: The teleconverters they're complaining about were designed before the shake reduction system was even invented! Yeah, that's fare comment. The problem's been bugging me for a while and I stumbled across the thread whilst looking for solutions..andthe red mist descended. I've got the A2X-S out this morning but I'm too busy the next few days to go and test things out. John -- -- The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 10-20 vs Pentax 12-24
2008/5/8 Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Of these I like http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2361/2264457467_3715e407a7_o.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2070/1873614000_eb7bcffdb4_o.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2391/2105976158_f5943358b8_o.jpg http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1207/1156628029_59615df340_o.jpg Thanks Godfrey I don't know that a rectilinear ultrawide is that much less challenging to use compared to an FE, but it is appropriate to a greater range of what I shoot, it seems. In fisheye lenses, I have both the DA10-17 that I use on the K10D and the Pentax Fish-Eye- Takumar that I use on the panny and oly bodies, in rectilinears I have the DA14 for the K10D and ZD 11-22 for the panny and oly. Overall I get good results with both but I find FE work becomes somewhat gimmicky looking a little faster than rectilinear work. By less challenging, I mean you don't have to worry about the FE perspective. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A70-210 questions
HERE, HERE!! The macro capability is absolutely amazing. I did a fairly careful infinity comparison (some time back) and found my copy of the FA 80~320 slightly better at 210mm. Surprised me. The 80~320, however, will be on ebay immediately upon receiving a working version of the DA 60~250. Jack --- On Thu, 5/8/08, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: A70-210 questions To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, May 8, 2008, 5:18 AM Scott Loveless wrote: Regarding the A70-210, this is the zoom everyone likes, right? Ballpark figure for a bargain grade lens(KEH rating), what sounds like a fair price? Probably around $100-$150 for Bargain rating, depending on just how much of a bargain the lens is :) Really nice lens. It's 1:4 macro capability can be really useful and I've seen stunning work from it. Add an extension tube or achromatic close-up lens and you'll have a really nice do-it-all macro/telephoto lens. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A70-210 questions
Excellent! One popped up locally in the classified ads for not very much money. I think I'll try to make arrangements to take a look at it. Thanks for the feedback. Jack Davis wrote: HERE, HERE!! The macro capability is absolutely amazing. I did a fairly careful infinity comparison (some time back) and found my copy of the FA 80~320 slightly better at 210mm. Surprised me. The 80~320, however, will be on ebay immediately upon receiving a working version of the DA 60~250. Jack --- On Thu, 5/8/08, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: A70-210 questions To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, May 8, 2008, 5:18 AM Scott Loveless wrote: Regarding the A70-210, this is the zoom everyone likes, right? Ballpark figure for a bargain grade lens(KEH rating), what sounds like a fair price? Probably around $100-$150 for Bargain rating, depending on just how much of a bargain the lens is :) Really nice lens. It's 1:4 macro capability can be really useful and I've seen stunning work from it. Add an extension tube or achromatic close-up lens and you'll have a really nice do-it-all macro/telephoto lens. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
Make that the A400/5.6 and the A2X-S converter. Damn keys:-). On May 8, 2008, at 9:12 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Here's a shot with the A500/5.6 and the A2X-S converter on the K20D. Minor fringing in the background, but that could be fixed if I wasn't so lazy :-). Converters aren't perfect but the A2X-S is a very good one. And, despite what someone here said, it works just as well on APS-C as it does on a full frame film camera. Why wouldn't it? Paul http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7053676size=lg On May 8, 2008, at 8:26 AM, John Whittingham wrote: On Thu, 08 May 2008 08:05:17 -0400, Mark Roberts wrote David Savage wrote: Those people are retarded. It's not Pentax's fault that an unsupported 3rd part accessory's doesn't work. It's not even the 3rd-party manufacturer's fault: The teleconverters they're complaining about were designed before the shake reduction system was even invented! Yeah, that's fare comment. The problem's been bugging me for a while and I stumbled across the thread whilst looking for solutions..andthe red mist descended. I've got the A2X-S out this morning but I'm too busy the next few days to go and test things out. John - - -- The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. - - -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
On Thu, 8 May 2008 09:12:00 -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote Here's a shot with the A500/5.6 and the A2X-S converter on the K20D. Minor fringing in the background, but that could be fixed if I wasn't so lazy :-). That's a really nice shot Paul. Converters aren't perfect but the A2X-S is a very good one. And, despite what someone here said, it works just as well on APS-C as it does on a full frame film camera. Why wouldn't it? Paul I know that, you know that, but. In fact in some respects it works better due to the crop factor. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7053676size=lg Regards, John The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
On Thu, 8 May 2008 09:00:02 -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote The A2X-S is one of the best converters I've run across. And it will at least transmit aperture information. Paul Yes that's what I'm hoping for, but I can't help think that the *dedicated* Sigma EX converters would be a better choice. What I'm really curious about is, if I cover the digital whateveritscalled pin (pin 7) do I still get AF, that could be useful with the 70-200/2.8 and 1.4 EX. I'd probably switch to manual focus anyway using the 300/4 with 2x converters as the aperture would effectively be f/8, although in good light my MZ-3 would AF with 300/4 and 2x EX. Regards, John. The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
2008/5/8 Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Make that the A400/5.6 and the A2X-S converter. Damn keys:-). Be honest...it's really the alcohol isn't it? :-) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: McJunkyard
Brian: Great photo here. Nice color, humor, and composition. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 9:06 AM Subject: Re: PESO: McJunkyard On May 8, 2008, at 7:12, Brian Walters wrote: Charles: Nice super-saturated colors there! Hand on my heart - I didn't touch the saturation slider with this one! Nonetheless - nice and rich and colorful I calls 'em as I sees 'em! :-) -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bleeding Heart
That's lovely, Paul. Another great flower picture. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 10:51 AM Subject: PESO: Bleeding Heart http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7234010size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Split tone
Derby: It was a great pleasure to gaze upon these. I think 1 2 are my favs. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 7:26 AM Subject: GESO: Split tone I've liked the recent round of flower shots, especially Christine's sepias. So... http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_05/08_05_split/index.htm D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: McJunkyard
On May 8, 2008, at 7:12, Brian Walters wrote: Charles: Nice super-saturated colors there! Hand on my heart - I didn't touch the saturation slider with this one! Nonetheless - nice and rich and colorful I calls 'em as I sees 'em! :-) -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
Not in the morning. At night it's the alcohol:-). Paul On May 8, 2008, at 9:46 AM, David Savage wrote: 2008/5/8 Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Make that the A400/5.6 and the A2X-S converter. Damn keys:-). Be honest...it's really the alcohol isn't it? :-) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
From: John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd probably switch to manual focus anyway using the 300/4 with 2x converters as the aperture would effectively be f/8, although in good light my MZ-3 would AF with 300/4 and 2x EX. They don't build 'em like that any more. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
On Thu, 8 May 2008 14:40:42 +, mike wilson wrote From: John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd probably switch to manual focus anyway using the 300/4 with 2x converters as the aperture would effectively be f/8, although in good light my MZ-3 would AF with 300/4 and 2x EX. They don't build 'em like that any more. You used to have to feed it some strange stuff, film they called it IIRC, cost a small fortune 8) John The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
BECAUSE ON A FULL FRAME CAMERA YOUR IMAGE IS OVER TWICE AS BIG AND YOU DONT HAVE TO ENLARGE IT NEARLY AS MUCH FOR THE SAME SIZE PRINT. I.E. YOUR TOTAL LINES RECORDED EFFECTIVE INCREASE IN BOTH AXIS BY 50% APS DEMANDS THE VERY FINEST LENSES FOR BEST RESULTS COMPARED TO FF JCO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 9:12 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D...yet! Here's a shot with the A500/5.6 and the A2X-S converter on the K20D. Minor fringing in the background, but that could be fixed if I wasn't so lazy :-). Converters aren't perfect but the A2X-S is a very good one. And, despite what someone here said, it works just as well on APS-C as it does on a full frame film camera. Why wouldn't it? Paul http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7053676size=lg On May 8, 2008, at 8:26 AM, John Whittingham wrote: On Thu, 08 May 2008 08:05:17 -0400, Mark Roberts wrote David Savage wrote: Those people are retarded. It's not Pentax's fault that an unsupported 3rd part accessory's doesn't work. It's not even the 3rd-party manufacturer's fault: The teleconverters they're complaining about were designed before the shake reduction system was even invented! Yeah, that's fare comment. The problem's been bugging me for a while and I stumbled across the thread whilst looking for solutions..andthe red mist descended. I've got the A2X-S out this morning but I'm too busy the next few days to go and test things out. John -- -- The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
John Whittingham wrote: On Thu, 8 May 2008 14:40:42 +, mike wilson wrote From: John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd probably switch to manual focus anyway using the 300/4 with 2x converters as the aperture would effectively be f/8, although in good light my MZ-3 would AF with 300/4 and 2x EX. They don't build 'em like that any more. You used to have to feed it some strange stuff, film they called it IIRC, cost a small fortune 8) The good drugs always cost more. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
2008/5/8 Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]: John Whittingham wrote: You used to have to feed it some strange stuff, film they called it IIRC, cost a small fortune 8) The good drugs always cost more. Scott you're still a young man with a bright future. Just say no. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 10-20 vs Pentax 12-24
Thank you all for your feedbacks! I bought the Pentax 12-24 f4 one... and already in love with the lens :D I think I will have to buy a new cam for the other lenses because I am not willing to take it off from the camera! :D :D :D Cheers, .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 10-20 vs Pentax 12-24
On May 8, 2008, at 6:21 AM, David Savage wrote: By less challenging, I mean you don't have to worry about the FE perspective. You have to worry about the rectilinear perspective ... keystoning, wide angle smearing, foreground-background size exaggeration have just as big an influence, to me, as curvilinear rendering. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Magnum blog
Hi list, I've been absent for good while (changed job, more busy now). Anyway I found this blog: http://blog.magnumphotos.com/ Nice photos, interesting articles (particularly if you are into photojournalism / street). Back to lurk mode. PS: In case you wonder, is not a site with photos of Magnum P.I. -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
I use one with the A50/2.8 Macro to achieve 1:1 magnification and a bit more working space. It's a darn good converter. Godfrey On May 8, 2008, at 6:00 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: The A2X-S is one of the best converters I've run across. And it will at least transmit aperture information. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Magnum blog
Fernando wrote: Hi list, I've been absent for good while (changed job, more busy now). Anyway I found this blog: http://blog.magnumphotos.com/ Nice photos, interesting articles (particularly if you are into photojournalism / street). Sweet! Magnum P.I. photos! Back to lurk mode. PS: In case you wonder, is not a site with photos of Magnum P.I. Durn. Thanks for the link, Fernando. Stick around. No need to lurk. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 10-20 vs Pentax 12-24
On May 8, 2008, at 9:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you all for your feedbacks! I bought the Pentax 12-24 f4 one... and already in love with the lens :D I think I will have to buy a new cam for the other lenses because I am not willing to take it off from the camera! :D :D :D Good to hear it. I feel the same way about the Leica Summilux-D 25/1.4 ASPH ... Since I bought it, I refuse to take it off one of my Olympus E-1 bodies except to put it on the L1 body. Luckily, I have two E-1s. ]'-) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K10D debug menu with firmware 1.3 available...
Read here: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036thread=27855376 -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K10D debug menu with firmware 1.3 available...
The stupidity begins again ... G On May 8, 2008, at 9:39 AM, Thibouille wrote: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp? forum=1036thread=27855376 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K10D debug menu with firmware 1.3 available...
I don't care much myself but I know some care on the list ... On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The stupidity begins again ... G On May 8, 2008, at 9:39 AM, Thibouille wrote: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp? forum=1036thread=27855376 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K10D debug menu with firmware 1.3 available...
Some K10D cameras, apparently the early ones, do require adjustment to be able to use autofocus with USM lenses. But I'd rather let Pentax do it. Paul On May 8, 2008, at 12:46 PM, Thibouille wrote: I don't care much myself but I know some care on the list ... On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The stupidity begins again ... G On May 8, 2008, at 9:39 AM, Thibouille wrote: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp? forum=1036thread=27855376 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K10D debug menu with firmware 1.3 available...
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On May 8, 2008, at 9:39 AM, Thibouille wrote: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036thread=27855376 The stupidity begins again ... Run away! Run away! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Magnum blog
;-) Thanks Scott, I think I'm already adjusted to my new routine, so I might start posting again; I'm always reading PDML though. Cheers On 5/8/08, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fernando wrote: Hi list, I've been absent for good while (changed job, more busy now). Anyway I found this blog: http://blog.magnumphotos.com/ Nice photos, interesting articles (particularly if you are into photojournalism / street). Sweet! Magnum P.I. photos! Back to lurk mode. PS: In case you wonder, is not a site with photos of Magnum P.I. Durn. Thanks for the link, Fernando. Stick around. No need to lurk. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K10D debug menu with firmware 1.3 available...
Me to. Dave On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some K10D cameras, apparently the early ones, do require adjustment to be able to use autofocus with USM lenses. But I'd rather let Pentax do it. Paul On May 8, 2008, at 12:46 PM, Thibouille wrote: I don't care much myself but I know some care on the list ... On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The stupidity begins again ... G On May 8, 2008, at 9:39 AM, Thibouille wrote: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp? forum=1036thread=27855376 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW: I noticed one of the regulars has posted a 359 x 536 pixel image to demonstrate how teleconverters don't degrade image quality. Gad, these people *are* worse the DP Review forum crowd... I saw 1 post about a guy saying how poor his K10D was focusing. As i am having some problems now, i had a look. His posted image was at 1/4 second shutter speed, hand held, no SR, with a long lens. Then it hit me, stay here.:-) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: twitter?
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Cory Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody using Twitter? PDML PESOs are on Twitter: http://twitter.com/PDML -Tim CW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: twitter?
Tim Bray wrote: On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Cory Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody using Twitter? PDML PESOs are on Twitter: http://twitter.com/PDML -Tim You know, that's pretty cool. In fact, it's the first *useful* use of Twitter I've ever seen. Well done. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO 2008 - 77 - GDG
http://homepage.mac.com/godders/77-flower_fence.jpg Flowers Fence - Sunnyvale 2008 ©2008 by Godfrey DiGiorgi Olympus E-1 + SMC Pentax-M 50mm f/1.4 ISO 100 @ f/1.4 or f/2 @ 1/125 sec Comments and critique always appreciated. Took a little respite from posting photos and thought I'd start up again with this still life I shot yesterday on my walk. The E-1 is such a graceful, quiet camera to use with a lightweight prime on it, and these older Pentax 50mm lenses are delightful performers. enjoy Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Headline of the week
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7390109.stm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: A70-210 questions
There is a Pentax-A which is not SMC. It is very easily confused with the SMC version. I have owned both. Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. C. O'Connell Sent: 08 May 2008 09:19 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: A70-210 questions To clarify, there is the Takumar-A which sux, and the SMC Pentax-A which is excellent. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 2:55 AM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: A70-210 questions Scott, there are 2 versions, SMC and non-SMC. They're both good, but the SMC version is substantially better in both optical and build terms. Naturally this affects the prices, so be careful! Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Loveless Sent: 08 May 2008 01:48 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: A70-210 questions Regarding the A70-210, this is the zoom everyone likes, right? Ballpark figure for a bargain grade lens(KEH rating), what sounds like a fair price? Thanks folks. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Anyone using a Bigma 50-500..................
comptetence ? On an unrelated note, John you really should think about deleting the Carmel College legalese on your PDML messages. That stuff is archived I don't know how your employers feel about private correspondence on company email, but my boss would pitch a fit if I did that he found out. You are assuming that managers in the British education system have any comptetence. In my experience, that is a very big mistake. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Headline of the week
I'm feeding these the whole winter in our garden but these unthankful birds always refuse to breed in the nest boxes I provide. Perhaps this feeding makes them so blasé that they don't want to breed earlier like in the UK. Henk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: donderdag 8 mei 2008 21:09 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: OT: Headline of the week http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7390109.stm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: A70-210 questions
Yes but it's *70-200* http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/lenses/zooms/_non-SMC/ptx-A_70-200f4.html the SMC version is *70-210* http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/lenses/zooms/long/A70-210f4.html Regards, John On Thu, 8 May 2008 20:15:42 +0100, Bob W wrote There is a Pentax-A which is not SMC. It is very easily confused with the SMC version. I have owned both. Bob The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Anyone using a Bigma 50-500..................
Able to find their own backside (fanny) using both hands = 0 On Thu, 8 May 2008 20:17:34 +0100, Bob W wrote comptetence ? On an unrelated note, John you really should think about deleting the Carmel College legalese on your PDML messages. That stuff is archived I don't know how your employers feel about private correspondence on company email, but my boss would pitch a fit if I did that he found out. You are assuming that managers in the British education system have any comptetence. In my experience, that is a very big mistake. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. John Whittingham Technician The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Headline of the week
At least there's some good news out there. ;-) G On May 8, 2008, at 12:08 PM, Bob W wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7390109.stm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: twitter?
On May 8, 2008, at 11:50 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Tim Bray wrote: On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Cory Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody using Twitter? PDML PESOs are on Twitter: http://twitter.com/PDML -Tim You know, that's pretty cool. In fact, it's the first *useful* use of Twitter I've ever seen. Well done. Not bad, could almost be good. ;-) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
some face painting pix, GOOD Lena used!
pictures of christen with face art makepu. http://jchriso.com/temp/cp.htm Later, jco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
Mark Roberts wrote: Bob Sullivan wrote: John, Several points... 1) Don't buy some 3rd party lens and then whine about it not working. 2) The Pentax A1.4X, A2.0X, and AF1.7X don't transmit focal lengths. You set them at the appropriate multiplied lengths. I've used the A200/4 and AF1.7X at a set 350mm focal length - works great! This poster complaint about the K10D shows his ignorance or fictional usage. 3) Maybe you should buy a point and shoot and give up on Pentax, maybe it's not for you. 4) pentaxforums is a load of pond scum. Read it if you want to be confused. 6) Teleconverters are evil, anyway. (Yes, I sometimes use one myself, but only as a last resort.) 7) Real Photographers don't use SR ;-) - T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2008 - 77 - GDG
On 8/5/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/77-flower_fence.jpg Flowers Fence - Sunnyvale 2008 ©2008 by Godfrey DiGiorgi Olympus E-1 + SMC Pentax-M 50mm f/1.4 ISO 100 @ f/1.4 or f/2 @ 1/125 sec Comments and critique always appreciated. Took a little respite from posting photos and thought I'd start up again with this still life I shot yesterday on my walk. The E-1 is such a graceful, quiet camera to use with a lightweight prime on it, and these older Pentax 50mm lenses are delightful performers. That's really nice Godders. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
On 8/5/08, Toralf Lund, discombobulated, unleashed: 7) Real Photographers don't use SR ;-) They use IS. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
Den 8. mai. 2008 kl. 22.43 skrev Cotty: On 8/5/08, Toralf Lund, discombobulated, unleashed: 7) Real Photographers don't use SR ;-) They use IS. In that case they need it, as they can´t get any lens faster than 2.0 with IS, and nothing better than 2.8 if you don´t have a lot of money .-) DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2008 - 77 - GDG
Nice. A fresh perspective. Paul -- Original message -- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage.mac.com/godders/77-flower_fence.jpg Flowers Fence - Sunnyvale 2008 ©2008 by Godfrey DiGiorgi Olympus E-1 + SMC Pentax-M 50mm f/1.4 ISO 100 @ f/1.4 or f/2 @ 1/125 sec Comments and critique always appreciated. Took a little respite from posting photos and thought I'd start up again with this still life I shot yesterday on my walk. The E-1 is such a graceful, quiet camera to use with a lightweight prime on it, and these older Pentax 50mm lenses are delightful performers. enjoy Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
On May 8, 2008, at 1:54 PM, DagT wrote: Den 8. mai. 2008 kl. 22.43 skrev Cotty: On 8/5/08, Toralf Lund, discombobulated, unleashed: 7) Real Photographers don't use SR ;-) They use IS. In that case they need it, as they can´t get any lens faster than 2.0 with IS, and nothing better than 2.8 if you don´t have a lot of money .-) One hardly needs IS with lenses of f/2 and faster speed, at least if they're not 150mm or longer. One can't lift a 300mm f/2 lens anyway, so it will always be a tripod mounted lens and won't need IS either. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
Cotty wrote: On 8/5/08, Toralf Lund, discombobulated, unleashed: 7) Real Photographers don't use SR ;-) They use IS. Insufferable Snideness? Increased Spending? Illusions of Superiority? Irrational Sensations? I'm stumped. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
Den 8. mai. 2008 kl. 23.11 skrev Godfrey DiGiorgi: On May 8, 2008, at 1:54 PM, DagT wrote: Den 8. mai. 2008 kl. 22.43 skrev Cotty: On 8/5/08, Toralf Lund, discombobulated, unleashed: 7) Real Photographers don't use SR ;-) They use IS. In that case they need it, as they can´t get any lens faster than 2.0 with IS, and nothing better than 2.8 if you don´t have a lot of money .-) One hardly needs IS with lenses of f/2 and faster speed, at least if they're not 150mm or longer. One can't lift a 300mm f/2 lens anyway, so it will always be a tripod mounted lens and won't need IS either. I disagree, or at least I find SR to be very useful with shorter lenses and wider apertures. My pug portrait last month was taken with FA50mm @ 1:1.4, hand held at 1/30s. I also have sharp pictures taken without a tripod with DA14mm @ 1/4s http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=336893 and DA16-50 @ 16mm and 1/8s http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=353011 For me SR has been the most useful new feature since the image sensors. DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
DagT, Beautiful photos. I agree on the 50/1.4, I found SR much useful too On 5/8/08, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Den 8. mai. 2008 kl. 23.11 skrev Godfrey DiGiorgi: On May 8, 2008, at 1:54 PM, DagT wrote: Den 8. mai. 2008 kl. 22.43 skrev Cotty: On 8/5/08, Toralf Lund, discombobulated, unleashed: 7) Real Photographers don't use SR ;-) They use IS. In that case they need it, as they can´t get any lens faster than 2.0 with IS, and nothing better than 2.8 if you don´t have a lot of money .-) One hardly needs IS with lenses of f/2 and faster speed, at least if they're not 150mm or longer. One can't lift a 300mm f/2 lens anyway, so it will always be a tripod mounted lens and won't need IS either. I disagree, or at least I find SR to be very useful with shorter lenses and wider apertures. My pug portrait last month was taken with FA50mm @ 1:1.4, hand held at 1/30s. I also have sharp pictures taken without a tripod with DA14mm @ 1/4s http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=336893 and DA16-50 @ 16mm and 1/8s http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=353011 For me SR has been the most useful new feature since the image sensors. DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
On 8/5/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Insufferable Snideness? Increased Spending? Illusions of Superiority? Irrational Sensations? I'm stumped. Itinerant Snappers. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
On May 8, 2008, at 2:23 PM, DagT wrote: One hardly needs IS with lenses of f/2 and faster speed, at least if they're not 150mm or longer. One can't lift a 300mm f/2 lens anyway, so it will always be a tripod mounted lens and won't need IS either. I disagree, or at least I find SR to be very useful with shorter lenses and wider apertures. My pug portrait last month was taken with FA50mm @ 1:1.4, hand held at 1/30s. I also have sharp pictures taken without a tripod with DA14mm @ 1/4s http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=336893 and DA16-50 @ 16mm and 1/8s http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=353011 For me SR has been the most useful new feature since the image sensors. There's no argument about IS being useful. What I said was need ... it's not a necessity. BTW, I've gotten good sharp photos with both the DA14 @ 1/4 second and a 50mm lens at 1/30 second hand-held without IS too. Can't tell the difference between them and with IS in many cases. I *can* tell the difference when I put the camera on a tripod, however ... Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
On May 8, 2008, at 2:32 PM, Cotty wrote: On 8/5/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Insufferable Snideness? Increased Spending? Illusions of Superiority? Irrational Sensations? I'm stumped. Itinerant Snappers. Itchy Sumbitches G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
BTW, Dag: really nice photos! :-) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/5/08, Toralf Lund, discombobulated, unleashed: 7) Real Photographers don't use SR ;-) They use IS. Sorry, VR.:-) Dave -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
Fernando wrote: DagT, Beautiful photos. I agree on the 50/1.4, I found SR much useful too Well, if you want the depth-of-field that you get from f/1.4 or f/1.2 you have to use an f/1.4 or f/1.2 lens. And SR is still nice then because it lets you shoot in low light and/or low ISO. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cotty wrote: On 8/5/08, Toralf Lund, discombobulated, unleashed: 7) Real Photographers don't use SR ;-) They use IS. Insufferable Snideness? Increased Spending? Illusions of Superiority? Irrational Sensations? I'm stumped. THATS IT. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
Yep, TCs suck big time, why there's almost no detail in this shot and it's so soft that I can just barely make out the bird http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/PESO%20--%20theegretislanding.html John Whittingham wrote: On Thu, 8 May 2008 04:21:10 -0400, J. C. O'Connell wrote I bet the reason why is because TCs suck in general and really suck the big one on APS sensored cameras. jco mwahahaha.. 8) The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I won't be buying a K20D.......yet!
P. J. Alling wrote: Yep, TCs suck big time, why there's almost no detail in this shot and it's so soft that I can just barely make out the bird Perhaps I should have mentioned that this was shot with the A* 300 f4.0 and the AF 1.7x adapter, for those who don't remember or never saw it to begin with. http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/PESO%20--%20theegretislanding.html John Whittingham wrote: On Thu, 8 May 2008 04:21:10 -0400, J. C. O'Connell wrote I bet the reason why is because TCs suck in general and really suck the big one on APS sensored cameras. jco mwahahaha.. 8) The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Nope, if your cover the digital pin you get an A lens, as far as Pentax DSLRs are concerned. John Whittingham wrote: On Thu, 8 May 2008 09:00:02 -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote The A2X-S is one of the best converters I've run across. And it will at least transmit aperture information. Paul Yes that's what I'm hoping for, but I can't help think that the *dedicated* Sigma EX converters would be a better choice. What I'm really curious about is, if I cover the digital whateveritscalled pin (pin 7) do I still get AF, that could be useful with the 70-200/2.8 and 1.4 EX. I'd probably switch to manual focus anyway using the 300/4 with 2x converters as the aperture would effectively be f/8, although in good light my MZ-3 would AF with 300/4 and 2x EX. Regards, John. The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
