GESO: San Franshadows
Shadows on buildings look better in San Francisco for some reason: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2008/06/04/San-Fran-Shadows -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Werid artifacts
William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "David Savage" > Subject: Re: Werid artifacts > > > >> At 11:28 AM 5/06/2008, William Robb wrote: >> >>> Please see: >>> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/weirdness.html >>> >>> Shot with the k20 and 70mm LTD. >>> ISO 100, f/7.1 at 1/400th. >>> >>> The sun was well out of the picture. >>> >>> Or is it just me >>> >> There is something there, but it's hard to tell on this work monitor. >> >> Looks a lot like .jpg compression. Are the circular whatevers visible >> on the original, or just the web version? >> >> > > They are visible in Camera RAW with the default conversion settings > (everything neutral), more > so on one monitor than the other. > > William Robb > > > I see a jet trail (from a 3 engined plane) on a lead-grey-blue sky which is light in the Lower LH corner and dark in the Upper RH corner. What else is there to see? D -- Dr E D F Williams http://www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ P O Box 15, 41660 TOIVAKKA, Finland Phone: +358400706616 Alternative eMail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Katz-Eye Screen
On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 20:57:23 -0600, William Robb wrote: >My Katz Eye arrived today. >I dropped it on the floor while installing it and damaged it slightly. >Damn. Oogh, too bad ... I know that on changing focussing screen over the years, 9 out of ten times the screen would jump out of the frame it is supposed to lay on, when lowering that from the prism. The first time that happened to me I got some damage too. >It's still a nice screen, but I do wish I wasn't so clumsy sometimes. > >My initial impression is that my K20 does AF more accurately than I can now >focus by eye. >Damn. I found it to be about equal with the DA lenses (like the 16-50). However, focussing with a manual lens (A* 200 :-) is SOO much better now! >I do wish I wasn't getting so old sometimes. Me too, I keep loosing my reading glasses :-) Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Perth
> Just a pleasant scene in the park. I think the lighting makes this one > look a little more special. Yes it is. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "wendy beard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: PSEO: Perth > Perth, Ontario that is. > Just a pleasant scene in the park. I think the lighting makes this one > look a little more special. > > http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/98005050 > > And a gee-gee shot for Dave :-) > http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/98096209 > > Wendy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Werid artifacts
I've seen these on images that were underexposed & contained very bright objects. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Werid artifacts > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: Werid artifacts > > >> Cool. A compelling image. > > Thanks Paul. I take it the semi circular artifacts aren't showing on your > screen? > > William Robb > >> >>> Please see: >>> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/weirdness.html >>> >>> Shot with the k20 and 70mm LTD. >>> ISO 100, f/7.1 at 1/400th. >>> >>> The sun was well out of the picture. >>> >>> Or is it just me >>> >>> William Robb > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Werid artifacts
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 09:28:26PM -0600, William Robb wrote: > Please see: > http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/weirdness.html > > Shot with the k20 and 70mm LTD. > ISO 100, f/7.1 at 1/400th. > > The sun was well out of the picture. > > Or is it just me > > William Robb Welcome to the wonderful world of digital image quantisation. If you look at the pixels with something that shows you the RGB values you'll see that the perceived circular arcs are places where one of the components (most often the red channel) changes. Unfortunately the human eye is exceptionally good at spotting subtle changes like this, correlating them, and presenting them to your visual cortex with the edges contrast-enhanced. These kinds of artifacts are far more common in digital image synthesis - it's rare for a captured real-world image to have large, smoothly varying areas of approximately the same colour. You've tripped over one of the uncommon natural occurrences. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PSEO: Perth
Perth, Ontario that is. Just a pleasant scene in the park. I think the lighting makes this one look a little more special. http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/98005050 And a gee-gee shot for Dave :-) http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/98096209 Wendy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Werid artifacts
Diagonal round banding of sorts... Weird indeed. But why to be bothered? Wasn't life smooth and free of artifacts 10 years ago? 20 may be? ;-) Boris William Robb wrote: > Please see: > http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/weirdness.html > > Shot with the k20 and 70mm LTD. > ISO 100, f/7.1 at 1/400th. > > The sun was well out of the picture. > > Or is it just me > > William Robb > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Werid artifacts
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Werid artifacts > Cool. A compelling image. Thanks Paul. I take it the semi circular artifacts aren't showing on your screen? William Robb > >> Please see: >> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/weirdness.html >> >> Shot with the k20 and 70mm LTD. >> ISO 100, f/7.1 at 1/400th. >> >> The sun was well out of the picture. >> >> Or is it just me >> >> William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Werid artifacts
- Original Message - From: "David Savage" Subject: Re: Werid artifacts > At 11:28 AM 5/06/2008, William Robb wrote: >>Please see: >>http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/weirdness.html >> >>Shot with the k20 and 70mm LTD. >>ISO 100, f/7.1 at 1/400th. >> >>The sun was well out of the picture. >> >>Or is it just me > > > There is something there, but it's hard to tell on this work monitor. > > Looks a lot like .jpg compression. Are the circular whatevers visible > on the original, or just the web version? > They are visible in Camera RAW with the default conversion settings (everything neutral), more so on one monitor than the other. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Werid artifacts
> The sun was well out of the picture. Yeah but the object wasn't out of the sun. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Werid artifacts > Please see: > http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/weirdness.html > > Shot with the k20 and 70mm LTD. > ISO 100, f/7.1 at 1/400th. > > The sun was well out of the picture. > > Or is it just me > > William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Werid artifacts
At 11:28 AM 5/06/2008, William Robb wrote: >Please see: >http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/weirdness.html > >Shot with the k20 and 70mm LTD. >ISO 100, f/7.1 at 1/400th. > >The sun was well out of the picture. > >Or is it just me There is something there, but it's hard to tell on this work monitor. Looks a lot like .jpg compression. Are the circular whatevers visible on the original, or just the web version? Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Stenquist
> Save yourself the stress & go out & take some photos :-) Yeah. Of the Stanley cup. WAY TO GO WINGS ! Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT: Stenquist > There will be a result whether you watch it or not. > > Save yourself the stress & go out & take some photos :-) > > Cheers, > > Dave > > > At 10:03 AM 5/06/2008, Paul Stenquist wrote: >>What the puck. My lips are sealed:-). >>Paul >> -- Original message -- >>From: Cory Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > OK... Not a peep from you about the you-know-what tonight... Or at >> > least >> > for ANOTHER PERIOD of time... OK? >> > >> > CW >> > Is from Michigan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Stenquist
> What the puck. My lips are sealed:-). I think that was his GOAL Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Re: OT: Stenquist > What the puck. My lips are sealed:-). > Paul > -- Original message -- > From: Cory Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> OK... Not a peep from you about the you-know-what tonight... Or at least >> for ANOTHER PERIOD of time... OK? >> >> CW >> Is from Michigan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 33-1/3% Better Trillium
Very, very nice but I find the bramch in the URH corner distracting. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: PESO: 33-1/3% Better Trillium > Another shot from the Mountain last weekend: > http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm > > K20D, Sigma 180/3.5 Macro -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Werid artifacts
Cool. A compelling image. Paul -- Original message -- From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Please see: > http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/weirdness.html > > Shot with the k20 and 70mm LTD. > ISO 100, f/7.1 at 1/400th. > > The sun was well out of the picture. > > Or is it just me > > William Robb > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Werid artifacts
Please see: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/weirdness.html Shot with the k20 and 70mm LTD. ISO 100, f/7.1 at 1/400th. The sun was well out of the picture. Or is it just me William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: used lens prices got you down? Got a special event coming up?
wow, really? rg2 On 6/4/08, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh joy... > > Cory Waters wrote: > > http://atlanta.craigslist.org/pho/706393605.html > > > > sheesh... > > > > CW > > > > > > > > > -- > Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... > -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lord Stanley is Going Home!
Chelios is semi-retired. Like me. Paul -- Original message -- From: Cory Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > W Ho! > > > > > S SWET!!1!!! > > > We saw Dallas Drake play great games for NMW back in Marquette. It was > great to see him hoist the Cup tonight. > And Maltby > And Draper > Holmstrum > Lidstrom > etc... > Still not sure about Chelios though ;) > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lord Stanley is Going Home!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > W Ho! > > S SWET!!1!!! We saw Dallas Drake play great games for NMW back in Marquette. It was great to see him hoist the Cup tonight. And Maltby And Draper Holmstrum Lidstrom etc... Still not sure about Chelios though ;) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Katz-Eye Screen
-- Original message -- From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I do wish I wasn't getting so old sometimes. > Me too. I used to take pride in my manual focus skills. No more. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lord Stanley is Going Home!
No, he's grown weary of the mother country. For the last dozen years Lord Stanley has been spending a lot of time north of the river in HockeyTown. Paul -- Original message -- From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Lord Stanley is Going Home! > > > > W Ho! > > England won > WW > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Katz-Eye Screen
My Katz Eye arrived today. I dropped it on the floor while installing it and damaged it slightly. Damn. It's still a nice screen, but I do wish I wasn't so clumsy sometimes. My initial impression is that my K20 does AF more accurately than I can now focus by eye. Damn. I do wish I wasn't getting so old sometimes. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lord Stanley is Going Home!
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Lord Stanley is Going Home! > W Ho! England won WW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Lord Stanley is Going Home!
W Ho! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Thinking Dangerously
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > From: Cory Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > You can publish any photo taken in a publish place, illegal act > or otherwise. This also doesn't address the more real possibility of someone beating the crap out of you for publishing it. >>> Yeah that scenario frequently flashes before my eyes right before >>> I trip the shutter. I usually chicken out:-). >> I wonder though how likely it is that your average street thug is >> ever going to find your photos online... > I'm more concerned that the average street thug will see me taking > the photo and apply a penalty right there in person. I was considering situations where that risk had already been addressed (shooting with a long lens from a direction they're not paying attention to -- such as from a 3rd-floor window). So my concerns are for post-publication fallout if they do see it on the web. (And as for the non-lawyerly danger, I'm more worried about a firebombing than a beating. I think petty vandalism is more likely thn either, but I haven't forgotten the family that burned to death in another part of the city a few years ago after drug dealers objected to their attempts to help the police make their block a safe place to raise kids. I'm hoping that riders of illegal dirt bikes are not as motivated as drug dealers.) -- Glenn -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Stenquist
There will be a result whether you watch it or not. Save yourself the stress & go out & take some photos :-) Cheers, Dave At 10:03 AM 5/06/2008, Paul Stenquist wrote: >What the puck. My lips are sealed:-). >Paul > -- Original message -- >From: Cory Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > OK... Not a peep from you about the you-know-what tonight... Or at least > > for ANOTHER PERIOD of time... OK? > > > > CW > > Is from Michigan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Panasonic L1
I found that my local camera store (McBain Camera) is ordering the last 23 Panasonic L1 camera/lens kits available in Canada, and is selling them for $800. I'm picking one up when they arrive. I tried one out in-store today, and really liked how it felt in my hands. The lens was a little large for my liking, but I'll get used to it. Not as large as I thought it might be. I'm also used to the DA Limited lenses, which make any other lens seem obese by comparison - even my FA 20-35 f/4! Thanks for the advice, everyone. Mike -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Stenquist
What the puck. My lips are sealed:-). Paul -- Original message -- From: Cory Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > OK... Not a peep from you about the you-know-what tonight... Or at least > for ANOTHER PERIOD of time... OK? > > CW > Is from Michigan > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Stenquist
OK... Not a peep from you about the you-know-what tonight... Or at least for ANOTHER PERIOD of time... OK? CW Is from Michigan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Thinking Dangerously
-- Original message -- From: Cory Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > -- Original message -- > > From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> - Original Message - > >> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >> Subject: Re: Thinking Dangerously > >> > >> > >> > >>> You can publish any photo taken in a publish place, illegal act or > otherwise. > >>> > >> No release > >> > >>> required. You can't use a photo to promote a service or product without a > >>> > >> release. > >> > >>> That doesn't mean someone can't try to sue you for publishing a news > >>> photo, > at > >>> > >> least here in > >> > >>> the U.S. But for the most part, anything that happens in public is fair > game. > >>> > >> This also doesn't address the more real possibility of someone beating the > crap > >> out of you for > >> publishing it. > >> > >> William Robb > >> > > Yeah that scenario frequently flashes before my eyes right before I trip > > the > shutter. I usually chicken out:-). > > Paul > > > >> -- > >> > I wonder though how likely it is that your average street thug is ever > going to find your photos online... > CW > I'm more concerned that the average street thug will see me taking the photo and apply a penalty right there in person. Paul > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Lumix Orchid
:-) They enter the world nice and clean but seem to turn to crap within a few days! It's a shame too, as the blooms usually hang around for several days to a couple weeks sometimes. My wife took the camera with her today for lunc with friends. Came back with several very nice photo's. Well composed, exposed and focused! I am happy! Walt On 6/4/08, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Walt, > Who sprinkled pepper on your orchid? > Nice big, sharp picture but don't enable us. > Regards, Bob S. > > On 6/3/08, Walter Hamler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Shot with a Lumix, not a species! > > I have been eyeing the new TZ5 Panasonic Lumix and finally got one today. > > The learning curve is different than the Pentax for sure but it seems > > pretty capable. > > > > http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J#306845274_4Hz6h-XL-LB > > > > Walt > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow the directions. > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Thinking Dangerously
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > -- Original message -- > From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> - Original Message - >> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> Subject: Re: Thinking Dangerously >> >> >> >>> You can publish any photo taken in a publish place, illegal act or >>> otherwise. >>> >> No release >> >>> required. You can't use a photo to promote a service or product without a >>> >> release. >> >>> That doesn't mean someone can't try to sue you for publishing a news photo, >>> at >>> >> least here in >> >>> the U.S. But for the most part, anything that happens in public is fair >>> game. >>> >> This also doesn't address the more real possibility of someone beating the >> crap >> out of you for >> publishing it. >> >> William Robb >> > Yeah that scenario frequently flashes before my eyes right before I trip the > shutter. I usually chicken out:-). > Paul > >> -- >> I wonder though how likely it is that your average street thug is ever going to find your photos online... CW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: smc PENTAX-DA 17-70mmF4AL[IF] SDM
The masses? probably not, they'll be set with the 18-55 and 50-200. But they'll likely not buy Pentax right now since Pentax lacks a competitive sub-$1K camera. Semi-serious photogs? certainly. It's a longer-range replacement for the well-liked 16-45/4. Nikon's similar range 18-70 and 16-85VR are also very popular, as is Canon's 17-85IS. This will be the main option for Pentax users upgrading from the 18-55. I could also see Pentax using it as the kit with the K20D and later mid/high range bodies. -Adam On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Cory Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wow Bob... I never considered that his reply wasn't serious... I > personally love the OT GFM chatter :) > > I mostly agree with Savage on this one. I mean, unless the lens is WAY > better than the kit lens > On the other hand, I guess it depends on the price. Do we think that > the masses would buy such a thing? > CW > > Bob Sullivan wrote: >> Jaume, >> Lighten up and chill out! >> Grandfather Mountain is a very cheap, high quality, 3 day photo seminar. >> Cost was $115 this year, with no hotel costs if you camped out. >> Compare this to other photo seminars you see in magazines. >> These are the same presenters who run their own 3-5 day seminars at $500 >> each. >> It's also a good social activity that helps keep this list out of flame wars. >> Why don't you sign up for next year and see for yourself. >> Regards, Bob S. >> >> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Jaume Lahuerta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Yeah, please, no more OTs. Let's talk about that camping party in the old >>> mountain instead... >>> >>> ;-) >>> >>> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Thinking Dangerously
-- Original message -- From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: Thinking Dangerously > > > > You can publish any photo taken in a publish place, illegal act or > > otherwise. > No release > > required. You can't use a photo to promote a service or product without a > release. > > > > That doesn't mean someone can't try to sue you for publishing a news photo, > > at > least here in > > the U.S. But for the most part, anything that happens in public is fair > > game. > > This also doesn't address the more real possibility of someone beating the > crap > out of you for > publishing it. > > William Robb Yeah that scenario frequently flashes before my eyes right before I trip the shutter. I usually chicken out:-). Paul > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SESO: Zinneke Parade Brussels 2008
That's an interesting presentation. It sounds like a New Orleans Mardi Gras parade. Lots of interesting costumes Regards, Bob S. On 6/2/08, Ralf R. Radermacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > SESO...? > > Well, that's a slideshow ever so often. :-) > > Been to Brussels last saturday to watch the Zinneke Parade, a bi-annual > event organised by an association to celebrate the cultural diversity of > the Belgian capital's population. This year's motto was "water". > > Unlike the usual carnivals and techno parades we're having all over > Europe nowadays, the Zinnike Parade has a special rule: no engines, no > amplifiers. > > If you want a float then you'll have to push it and if you want music > you'll have to sing, beat a drum or use whatever you have at hand as > long as it doesn't involve elctronics. No 120 dBA mega-disco on wheels, > here. > > My little show involves a few recent aquisitions: a Pentax DA 50-200 mm > lens which was used for all pictures, a Zoom H2 WAV recorder, OKM > ear-plug microphones, and SlideShowPro - a Lightroom plug-in used to > create the whole slideshow. > > Now, does everything work with all browsers and systems? Feedback > please. I'm also very interested in your opinions. No fishing for > compliments here, so please be critical. > > http://www.fotoralf.de/zinneke/front.html > > Hope you'll enjoy watching as much as we did when we attended the > parade. > > Un grand merci aux Bruxellois! It's been a wonderful day. > > Ralf > > -- > Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany > private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de > manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 > Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Thinking Dangerously
- Original Message - From: "D. Glenn Arthur Jr." Subject: Re: Thinking Dangerously > William Robb cautioned: >> > You can publish any photo taken in a publish place, [...] >> This also doesn't address the more real possibility of someone >> beating the crap out of you for publishing it. > > Which was the other half of the reason I picked the subject header I did. > > -- Glenn > > PS: I'm certainly not w/o fear of fists, but lawyers scare me even more. > PPS: Despite having two attorneys as bandmates. Well, you can be sued for pretty much anything, and I suppose you can also have your head staved in for the same reasons. Either way, you get beaten up. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Lumix Orchid
Walt, Who sprinkled pepper on your orchid? Nice big, sharp picture but don't enable us. Regards, Bob S. On 6/3/08, Walter Hamler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shot with a Lumix, not a species! > I have been eyeing the new TZ5 Panasonic Lumix and finally got one today. > The learning curve is different than the Pentax for sure but it seems > pretty capable. > > http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J#306845274_4Hz6h-XL-LB > > Walt > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: smc PENTAX-DA 17-70mmF4AL[IF] SDM
On Jun 4, 2008, at 4:40 PM, Cory Waters wrote: > I mostly agree with Savage on this one. I mean, unless the lens is > WAY > better than the kit lens > On the other hand, I guess it depends on the price. Do we think that > the masses would buy such a thing? I suspect that, if given the choice, many would choose a 17-70/4 instead of an 18-55/3.5-5.6 as a higher grade standard lens option for K200D, K20D and K10D bodies. I certainly would. Although I'd prefer an f/2.8, such a lens would become too bulky and too expensive, like the DA*16-50/2.8 is, as a kit lens option. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Columbine
Rick, Nice depth of field gets the whole flower. Great to have the bud in the background left. A handsome picture. Regards, Bob S. On 6/2/08, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is growing exuberantly in our back yard. > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7355858&size=lg > > K10D, DA 15-45, f/8 @ 1/60, ISO 400, RAW via LR > > Rick > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Zoom-zoom!
Great Frank! That serious facial expression balanced with shorts, clogs, and a bike helmet make the scooter driver a classic in B&W. Regards, Bob S. On 6/2/08, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > LOL. "Zoom zoom" was the official motto of Mazda promos some years > ago, notably of Mazda 6. This I think adds to the hilariousness of > this photo. > > On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 3:49 PM, frank theriault > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://tinyurl.com/68ne98 > > > > http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SEPjxuhUGYI/CME/0WZb5bQUnAY/s1600-h/may_30_08+004.jpg > > > > This guy takes his scooting very seriously!! :-) > > > > Comments welcome. > > > > cheers, > > frank > > > > -- > > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow the directions. > > > > > > -- > Boris > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Thinking Dangerously
William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cautioned: > > You can publish any photo taken in a publish place, [...] > This also doesn't address the more real possibility of someone > beating the crap out of you for publishing it. Which was the other half of the reason I picked the subject header I did. -- Glenn PS: I'm certainly not w/o fear of fists, but lawyers scare me even more. PPS: Despite having two attorneys as bandmates. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to the group - you will be groaning with frustration soon!
- Original Message - From: "Bob W" Subject: RE: New to the group - you will be groaning with frustration soon! >> >> I really want to master the basics.. and then take pictures >> as great as >> Bill! >> > > that shouldn't take very long. Thanks Bob. Compliments from you are few and far between. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to the group - you will be groaning with frustration soon!
- Original Message - From: "Jo Lueck" Subject: New to the group - you will be groaning with frustration soon! > > I really want to master the basics.. and then take pictures as great as > Bill! MARK HAR!! William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Thinking Dangerously
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Thinking Dangerously > You can publish any photo taken in a publish place, illegal act or otherwise. > No release > required. You can't use a photo to promote a service or product without a > release. > > That doesn't mean someone can't try to sue you for publishing a news photo, > at least here in > the U.S. But for the most part, anything that happens in public is fair game. This also doesn't address the more real possibility of someone beating the crap out of you for publishing it. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: smc PENTAX-DA 17-70mmF4AL[IF] SDM
Wow Bob... I never considered that his reply wasn't serious... I personally love the OT GFM chatter :) I mostly agree with Savage on this one. I mean, unless the lens is WAY better than the kit lens On the other hand, I guess it depends on the price. Do we think that the masses would buy such a thing? CW Bob Sullivan wrote: > Jaume, > Lighten up and chill out! > Grandfather Mountain is a very cheap, high quality, 3 day photo seminar. > Cost was $115 this year, with no hotel costs if you camped out. > Compare this to other photo seminars you see in magazines. > These are the same presenters who run their own 3-5 day seminars at $500 each. > It's also a good social activity that helps keep this list out of flame wars. > Why don't you sign up for next year and see for yourself. > Regards, Bob S. > > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Jaume Lahuerta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Yeah, please, no more OTs. Let's talk about that camping party in the old >> mountain instead... >> >> ;-) >> >> -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: 33-1/3% Better Trillium
Paul Stenquist wrote: > On Jun 4, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > >> Another shot from the Mountain last weekend: >> http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm >> >> K20D, Sigma 180/3.5 Macro >> > Excellent. Beautiful photo. Thanks, Paul. I would have snapped it just for documentary purposes - one doesn't often see these - but I thought the spider web strands added an element that made it worth sharing. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: 33-1/3% Better Trillium
Excellent. Beautiful photo. Paul On Jun 4, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Another shot from the Mountain last weekend: > http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm > > K20D, Sigma 180/3.5 Macro > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: smc PENTAX-DA 17-70mmF4AL[IF] SDM
I don't know, Pentax supposedly pioneered the technique. We can only hope they got it right eventually... AlunFoto wrote: > 2008/6/4 P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> The composite elements were a spherical glass component with an optical >> plastic having an "identical" diffraction index, molded to the glass >> component to form the aspheric element. The optical plastic was the >> glue... >> > > Thanks, I didn't know that. Do you think they've used different > techniques on other AL lenses? > > Jostein > > -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Asahi Hospital - OT?
Scott Loveless wrote: > P. J. Alling wrote: >> Washington Mutual Insurance has noting to >> do with the Washington Nationals< (baseball team), which has noting to >> do with Washington and Lee University, except for the name... >> > Wow. I never would have figured that out on my own. You're gonna tell > me smoking is bad for me next, right? Well yeah, smoking is very bad for you. But we don't want *you* to quit: It makes for such good photo ops half way up to MacRae Peak. ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: 33-1/3% Better Trillium
Bill Owens wrote: > >> Another shot from the Mountain last weekend: >> http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm >> >> K20D, Sigma 180/3.5 Macro >> > Would that be a quadrilium? Yes, indeed. That's what they're called. Still pretty bizarre-looking when seen next to a lot of normal Trillium. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax software updates
Dario Bonazza wrote: > Not yet satisfied, here are some software updates: > http://www.pentax.jp/english/support/ > > Dario > > Cool. Remote assistant works with Vista now? Must try it D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: smc PENTAX-DA 17-70mmF4AL[IF] SDM
2008/6/4 Jaume Lahuerta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Probably one has to be better known in order to be successful with irony... > ;-) LOL. I think you're just about getting there, Jaume. Cheers, Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: smc PENTAX-DA 17-70mmF4AL[IF] SDM
2008/6/4 P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The composite elements were a spherical glass component with an optical > plastic having an "identical" diffraction index, molded to the glass > component to form the aspheric element. The optical plastic was the > glue... Thanks, I didn't know that. Do you think they've used different techniques on other AL lenses? Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: smc PENTAX-DA 17-70mmF4AL[IF] SDM
Oooops, It was just a joke. Dave answered with a 'yawn' to an entry about a new Pentax glass, and I just wanted to connect with my thread last week about the list focus swift. That's all. (and, at the end, the yawn was more about the range of zoom presented, rather than about being an equipment subject). I am sure that this GFM event is well worth it, as you say some of you are crossing the ocean in order to attend. In my case, well, nature photography is not one of my primary interest and I would find hard to justify to me and to my family such a trip. I've been only once in the US and it was for 4 months !! If I mentioned it is because there has been a lot of threads about it recently and because it is a good example of a non Pentax related topic, as opposed to the lens one. Probably one has to be better known in order to be successful with irony... ;-) Regards, Jaume - Mensaje original De: AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Enviado: miércoles, 4 de junio, 2008 22:25:47 Asunto: Re: smc PENTAX-DA 17-70mmF4AL[IF] SDM What Bob said about the GFM week-end. Some of us have even travelled across significant portions of salty water to get there. It's worth it. Jostein 2008/6/4 Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Jaume, > Lighten up and chill out! > Grandfather Mountain is a very cheap, high quality, 3 day photo seminar. > Cost was $115 this year, with no hotel costs if you camped out. > Compare this to other photo seminars you see in magazines. > These are the same presenters who run their own 3-5 day seminars at $500 each. > It's also a good social activity that helps keep this list out of flame wars. > Why don't you sign up for next year and see for yourself. > Regards, Bob S. > > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Jaume Lahuerta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Yeah, please, no more OTs. Let's talk about that camping party in the old >> mountain instead... >> >> ;-) >> >> Jaume >> >> - Mensaje original >> De: David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Enviado: miércoles, 4 de junio, 2008 16:05:16 >> Asunto: Re: smc PENTAX-DA 17-70mmF4AL[IF] SDM >> >> Sorry but: >> >> Yawn. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Dave :-) >> >> >> 2008/6/4 Dario Bonazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0806/08060301pentax17-70sdm.asp >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> >> >> __ >> Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! La bandeja de entrada más inteligente. >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! La bandeja de entrada más inteligente. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: smc PENTAX-DA 17-70mmF4AL[IF] SDM
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 5:21 PM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> That lens travels at faster than the speed of sound, man!! How can >> you not be excited about it? >> >> cheers, >> frank >> >> > Maybe, but only over very, very short distances... Primes may be faster, but zooms have more endurance. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: smc PENTAX-DA 17-70mmF4AL[IF] SDM
frank theriault wrote: > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:35 AM, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> :-D >> >> What I mean is it's another lens in the 16-XX range. It does nothing >> to excite me. >> >> That & it's almost time for bed :-) >> > > That lens travels at faster than the speed of sound, man!! How can > you not be excited about it? > > cheers, > frank > > Maybe, but only over very, very short distances... -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: 33-1/3% Better Trillium
Would that be a quadrilium? Bill > Another shot from the Mountain last weekend: > http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm > > K20D, Sigma 180/3.5 Macro > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: One shot from GFM
Another shot from the Mountain last weekend: http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm K20D, Sigma 180/3.5 Macro -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: smc PENTAX-DA 17-70mmF4AL[IF] SDM
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:35 AM, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > :-D > > What I mean is it's another lens in the 16-XX range. It does nothing > to excite me. > > That & it's almost time for bed :-) That lens travels at faster than the speed of sound, man!! How can you not be excited about it? cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: 33-1/3% Better Trillium
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another shot from the Mountain last weekend: > http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm > > K20D, Sigma 180/3.5 Macro Lovely! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: 33-1/3% Better Trillium
Wouldn't that be Quadrillium? Mark Roberts wrote: > Another shot from the Mountain last weekend: > http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm > > K20D, Sigma 180/3.5 Macro > > > -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: 33-1/3% Better Trillium
On Jun 4, 2008, at 8:44 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Another shot from the Mountain last weekend: > http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm > > K20D, Sigma 180/3.5 Macro > Nicely framed, Mark! G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: 33-1/3% Better Trillium
Another shot from the Mountain last weekend: http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm K20D, Sigma 180/3.5 Macro -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: smc PENTAX-DA 17-70mmF4AL[IF] SDM
The composite elements were a spherical glass component with an optical plastic having an "identical" diffraction index, molded to the glass component to form the aspheric element. The optical plastic was the glue... AlunFoto wrote: > I think the achilles heel of the FA 28-70/4 was actually the quality > of the cement used to glue the elements together, rather than the > elements themselves. Pentax has done a lot of lenses with AL since > then, without repeating the mistake. > > Jostein > > 2008/6/4 P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Interesting, the lens contains not one but two composite, aspherical >> elements, the composite aspherical element was the achillies heel of the >> smcp FA 28-70mm f4.0 an otherwise exemplary little lens. >> >> Dario Bonazza wrote: >> >>> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0806/08060301pentax17-70sdm.asp >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... >> -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> > > > > -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Thinking Dangerously
You can publish any photo taken in a publish place, illegal act or otherwise. No release required. You can't use a photo to promote a service or product without a release. That doesn't mean someone can't try to sue you for publishing a news photo, at least here in the U.S. But for the most part, anything that happens in public is fair game. Paul -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (D. Glenn Arthur Jr.) > Does publishing a photograph of a (plainly recognizeable) illegal act > committed in a public place count as "news reporting" for the purpose > of determining whether a model release is required? (That is, can a > publisher make such a claim easily with a fair chance of success?) > > As some of y'all will recall, opportunities to photograph such > situations are not uncommon in my neighbourhood. > > -- Glenn > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Asahi Hospital - OT?
It can be a bit *dry*. So of Japanese beers, I like Sapporo better... On 6/4/08, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Always seemed a bit harsh to me. > > > Gonz wrote: > > Personally, I like Asahi beer > > > > > > > > On 6/4/08, Katrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> My denji jisho (electronic dictionary) states that asahi means "the > morning [rising] sun"... its > >> written with the kanjis for morning (asa) and sun (hi) ^_- > >> > >> a lot of things is named after it, for example the asahi shinbun > (shinbun = newspaper) > >> > >> ~Katrin > >> > >> > >> Am 4 Jun 2008 um 13:10 hat frank theriault geschrieben: > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 12:58 PM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> > > Asahi is the name of a river, a lot of different things are named > after > >> > > it, much like say Washington. Washington Mutual Insurance has > noting to > >> > > do with the Washington Nationals< (baseball team), which has noting > to > >> > > do with Washington and Lee University, except for the name... > >> > > >> > I always thought Asahi meant "light" in Japanese. Not light as in > >> > "less affected by gravity" but light as in "absence of dark". Ex > >> > Oriente Lux and all. > >> > > >> > Of course I could be wrong. And I'm sure there is an Asahi River in > Japan. > >> > > >> > BTW, speaking of the Washington Nationals, they have nothing to do > >> > with baseball. Have you ever seen them play? > >> > > >> > cheers, > >> > frank > >> > -- > >> > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > >> > > >> > -- > >> > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> > PDML@pdml.net > >> > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > >> > >> > >> > ** > >> Desert Rose > >> Chris' & Katrin's X Japan homepage! Please visit it! > >> http://www.desertrose.de > >> > >> >From now on I will try to live for you and for me. > >> I will live with love...with dreams... > >> and forever with tears.. > >> > ** > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> PDML@pdml.net > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... >-- Dr. Jerry Pournelle > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: smc PENTAX-DA 17-70mmF4AL[IF] SDM
What Bob said about the GFM week-end. Some of us have even travelled across significant portions of salty water to get there. It's worth it. Jostein 2008/6/4 Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Jaume, > Lighten up and chill out! > Grandfather Mountain is a very cheap, high quality, 3 day photo seminar. > Cost was $115 this year, with no hotel costs if you camped out. > Compare this to other photo seminars you see in magazines. > These are the same presenters who run their own 3-5 day seminars at $500 each. > It's also a good social activity that helps keep this list out of flame wars. > Why don't you sign up for next year and see for yourself. > Regards, Bob S. > > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Jaume Lahuerta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Yeah, please, no more OTs. Let's talk about that camping party in the old >> mountain instead... >> >> ;-) >> >> Jaume >> >> - Mensaje original >> De: David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Enviado: miércoles, 4 de junio, 2008 16:05:16 >> Asunto: Re: smc PENTAX-DA 17-70mmF4AL[IF] SDM >> >> Sorry but: >> >> Yawn. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Dave :-) >> >> >> 2008/6/4 Dario Bonazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0806/08060301pentax17-70sdm.asp >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> >> >> __ >> Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! La bandeja de entrada más inteligente. >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: smc PENTAX-DA 17-70mmF4AL[IF] SDM
I think the achilles heel of the FA 28-70/4 was actually the quality of the cement used to glue the elements together, rather than the elements themselves. Pentax has done a lot of lenses with AL since then, without repeating the mistake. Jostein 2008/6/4 P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Interesting, the lens contains not one but two composite, aspherical > elements, the composite aspherical element was the achillies heel of the > smcp FA 28-70mm f4.0 an otherwise exemplary little lens. > > Dario Bonazza wrote: >> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0806/08060301pentax17-70sdm.asp >> >> > > > -- > Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... > -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: out of the blurr
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 5:02 PM, Axel Belinfante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > faded swimming pool shot, with amidst all flat faded blurr > the in-water lane sepator that kind of 3d jumps out of the pic. > > this is at least the effect it has when I watch it full screen on > the monitor, I'm not sure the web version has this in the same way. > > I like the effect enough to share it here. > > it is not my pic - it is by my son Ede who will be 5 in June. I think it's great that Ede is taking photos at 5! Tell him that I love the bright colours in his shot. Tell him that I like the blurriness in his photo - it's good to learn blur early! Nice composition - I like the way the lane marker sort of "anchors" the shot. ;-) cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Poppy/Stack
Preference may be down to how different e-mail SW handles replied-to text, I'd suspect. The gMail app is quite good at collapsing replied-to text so it doesn't matter to me, but it may to others. Jostein the Alunish. 2008/6/4 willdo-1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Where am I supposed to post, here, or down there where I have just > posted? --> > -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: One shot from GFM
On 4/6/08, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: >For once i';ll agree with Frank, agreeing with Norm. I agree. I think... -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Asahi Hospital - OT?
I think keeping it inside your body is taking the concept a bit too far. Bob W wrote: > "any man who can hitch the length and breadth of the galaxy, rough it, > slum it, struggle against terrible odds, win through, and still knows > where his towel is is clearly a man to be reckoned with." > > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Scott Loveless >> Sent: 04 June 2008 17:50 >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Asahi Hospital - OT? >> >> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23810400-2,00.html >> >> > > > -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Asahi Hospital - OT?
Always seemed a bit harsh to me. Gonz wrote: > Personally, I like Asahi beer > > > > On 6/4/08, Katrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> My denji jisho (electronic dictionary) states that asahi means "the morning >> [rising] sun"... its >> written with the kanjis for morning (asa) and sun (hi) ^_- >> >> a lot of things is named after it, for example the asahi shinbun (shinbun = >> newspaper) >> >> ~Katrin >> >> >> Am 4 Jun 2008 um 13:10 hat frank theriault geschrieben: >> >> >> > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 12:58 PM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > Asahi is the name of a river, a lot of different things are named after >> > > it, much like say Washington. Washington Mutual Insurance has noting to >> > > do with the Washington Nationals< (baseball team), which has noting to >> > > do with Washington and Lee University, except for the name... >> > >> > I always thought Asahi meant "light" in Japanese. Not light as in >> > "less affected by gravity" but light as in "absence of dark". Ex >> > Oriente Lux and all. >> > >> > Of course I could be wrong. And I'm sure there is an Asahi River in >> Japan. >> > >> > BTW, speaking of the Washington Nationals, they have nothing to do >> > with baseball. Have you ever seen them play? >> > >> > cheers, >> > frank >> > -- >> > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson >> > >> > -- >> > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> > PDML@pdml.net >> > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> >> ** >> Desert Rose >> Chris' & Katrin's X Japan homepage! Please visit it! >> http://www.desertrose.de >> >> >From now on I will try to live for you and for me. >> I will live with love...with dreams... >> and forever with tears.. >> >> ** >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> > > -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Thinking Dangerously
It would seem to me that you would be well within your rights. After all there is no particular certification required to start a news service. Anyone can do it, (and based on the internet a lot of "anyones" have). D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote: > Does publishing a photograph of a (plainly recognizeable) illegal act > committed in a public place count as "news reporting" for the purpose > of determining whether a model release is required? (That is, can a > publisher make such a claim easily with a fair chance of success?) > > As some of y'all will recall, opportunities to photograph such > situations are not uncommon in my neighbourhood. > > -- Glenn > > -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to the group - you will be groaning with frustration soon!
On 4/6/08, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: >Are you familiar with the terms shutterspeed and aperture? That's gotta be a MARK! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to the group - you will be groaning with frustration soon!
On 4/6/08, Jo Lueck, discombobulated, unleashed: >Oxford Oxford - you can practically move in and teach me yourself!!! Umm, has been known!!! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Asahi Hospital - OT?
Personally, I like Asahi beer On 6/4/08, Katrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My denji jisho (electronic dictionary) states that asahi means "the morning > [rising] sun"... its > written with the kanjis for morning (asa) and sun (hi) ^_- > > a lot of things is named after it, for example the asahi shinbun (shinbun = > newspaper) > > ~Katrin > > > Am 4 Jun 2008 um 13:10 hat frank theriault geschrieben: > > > > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 12:58 PM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Asahi is the name of a river, a lot of different things are named after > > > it, much like say Washington. Washington Mutual Insurance has noting to > > > do with the Washington Nationals< (baseball team), which has noting to > > > do with Washington and Lee University, except for the name... > > > > I always thought Asahi meant "light" in Japanese. Not light as in > > "less affected by gravity" but light as in "absence of dark". Ex > > Oriente Lux and all. > > > > Of course I could be wrong. And I'm sure there is an Asahi River in Japan. > > > > BTW, speaking of the Washington Nationals, they have nothing to do > > with baseball. Have you ever seen them play? > > > > cheers, > > frank > > -- > > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > > ** > Desert Rose > Chris' & Katrin's X Japan homepage! Please visit it! > http://www.desertrose.de > > >From now on I will try to live for you and for me. > I will live with love...with dreams... > and forever with tears.. > > ** > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Thinking Dangerously
D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote: > Does publishing a photograph of a (plainly recognizeable) illegal act > committed in a public place count as "news reporting" for the purpose > of determining whether a model release is required? (That is, can a > publisher make such a claim easily with a fair chance of success?) > > As some of y'all will recall, opportunities to photograph such > situations are not uncommon in my neighbourhood. > I would think yes, so long as your use of the photograph is appropriate. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Thinking Dangerously
Does publishing a photograph of a (plainly recognizeable) illegal act committed in a public place count as "news reporting" for the purpose of determining whether a model release is required? (That is, can a publisher make such a claim easily with a fair chance of success?) As some of y'all will recall, opportunities to photograph such situations are not uncommon in my neighbourhood. -- Glenn -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Asahi Hospital - OT?
My denji jisho (electronic dictionary) states that asahi means "the morning [rising] sun"... its written with the kanjis for morning (asa) and sun (hi) ^_- a lot of things is named after it, for example the asahi shinbun (shinbun = newspaper) ~Katrin Am 4 Jun 2008 um 13:10 hat frank theriault geschrieben: > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 12:58 PM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Asahi is the name of a river, a lot of different things are named after > > it, much like say Washington. Washington Mutual Insurance has noting to > > do with the Washington Nationals< (baseball team), which has noting to > > do with Washington and Lee University, except for the name... > > I always thought Asahi meant "light" in Japanese. Not light as in > "less affected by gravity" but light as in "absence of dark". Ex > Oriente Lux and all. > > Of course I could be wrong. And I'm sure there is an Asahi River in Japan. > > BTW, speaking of the Washington Nationals, they have nothing to do > with baseball. Have you ever seen them play? > > cheers, > frank > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. ** Desert Rose Chris' & Katrin's X Japan homepage! Please visit it! http://www.desertrose.de >From now on I will try to live for you and for me. I will live with love...with dreams... and forever with tears.. ** -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Asahi Hospital - OT?
Asahi does translate as "Morning Sun" but it is a river, at one time I had heard that water taken from that river could be used to develop B&W film with no additional chemicals, however either that wasn't true or water quality has improved considerably since the 1950s. Bob W wrote: > I've always thought it means 'sunrise'. > > >> Asahi is the name of a river, a lot of different things are >> named after >> it, much like say Washington. Washington Mutual Insurance >> has noting to >> do with the Washington Nationals< (baseball team), which has >> noting to >> do with Washington and Lee University, except for the name... >> >> Scott Loveless wrote: >> >>> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23810400-2,00.html >>> >>> > > > -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K10D Back from Pentax Repair
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 2:25 PM, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Adam Maas" > Subject: Re: K10D Back from Pentax Repair > > >> Manufacturing defect, yes, early samples, no. I'm seeing reports of >> recent lenses with the same issue over on the flickr Pentax group I >> moderate. > > I don't think there is any way of knowing when a lens was manufactured based > on the selling > date. Serial number assignements seem to be fairly random, except for the > Limited lenses. > > William Robb > It's a pretty safe guess that anything in stores today is not going to be early production, given the difficulty Pentax had in filling demand for the first few months that the lens was out. Especially if its coming from a higher-volume source like B&H. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: New to the group - you will be groaning with frustration soon!
> > I really want to master the basics.. and then take pictures > as great as > Bill! > that shouldn't take very long. Welcome. I recommend that you find a class locally that will teach you the basics. It will be much easier in 2 or 3 hands-on sessions than by reading through all these replies. Another possibility would be to borrow a book from your local library and work your way through some of the exercises. If you can borrow an incident light meter you will find it much easier to understand about exposure, and it will give you a baseline against which to compare the way your camera's light reading works (or not, depending on the situation). Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Asahi Hospital - OT?
I've always thought it means 'sunrise'. > > Asahi is the name of a river, a lot of different things are > named after > it, much like say Washington. Washington Mutual Insurance > has noting to > do with the Washington Nationals< (baseball team), which has > noting to > do with Washington and Lee University, except for the name... > > Scott Loveless wrote: > > http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23810400-2,00.html > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Asahi Hospital - OT?
"any man who can hitch the length and breadth of the galaxy, rough it, slum it, struggle against terrible odds, win through, and still knows where his towel is is clearly a man to be reckoned with." > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Scott Loveless > Sent: 04 June 2008 17:50 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Asahi Hospital - OT? > > http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23810400-2,00.html > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to the group - you will be groaning with frustration soon!
- Original Message - From: "Jo Lueck" Subject: New to the group - you will be groaning with frustration soon! > Dear All, esp Bill for pointing me in the right direction here... > > I have a K10D - its nice, its black, I have a really nice bag with it - > here my knowledge ends! > > To tell a lie I have used the green setting but its not good for my > subjects - dogs! > > I find it harder to use in the home the other day I had to take > pictures of new puppies, I put it in auto and turned on the flash but > it was not a happy bunny. > > I really want to master the basics.. and then take pictures as great as > Bill! I thought those were little Corso puppies!! I had a Corso in my last obedience class. I had some reservations about it, since everything I had heard was that they are somewhat beyond being man stoppers, but this little bitch was just as sweet as a bugs ear, and a nice soft temperment very reminiscent of my old Rottie bitch. When I have a minute later, I'll have a look at your website, and also some of the replies you have already gotten and see if I can add anything useful. One thing I've found with photographing my Rotties is that exposure compensation is your friend, and I suspect you'll find the same holds true with your Corsos. Welcome aboard. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K10D Back from Pentax Repair
- Original Message - From: "Adam Maas" Subject: Re: K10D Back from Pentax Repair > Manufacturing defect, yes, early samples, no. I'm seeing reports of > recent lenses with the same issue over on the flickr Pentax group I > moderate. I don't think there is any way of knowing when a lens was manufactured based on the selling date. Serial number assignements seem to be fairly random, except for the Limited lenses. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: (*istD questions) Argh. Near miss of a different sort.
On Jun 4, 2008, at 0:44, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > But you can buy the "Canon Remote Switch RS-60E3" from B&H Photo for > $25 that works perfectly as a replacement for the $40 Pentax CS-201, > or go to Ebay and find the same thing made in China for $4. > > I personally wouldn't waste the time to make one. > I did waste the time a couple years ago, and now I wonder why I bothered. "Because I could"? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org I am riding in the MS-TRAM this summer. Please consider sponsoring me! http://charles.robinsontwins.org/mstram.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - mac osx licensing
Scott, We have a G3 that has been unemployed since we got our G5 a few years ago. If you want it, it's yours. Rick --- Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Adam Maas wrote: > > First off, it's not a good idea performance-wise. > There isn't a > > PowerPC emulator with anything approaching decent > performance, even on > > a fast PC you're going to be looking at > performance similar to a > > PPC604e at best. You might be able to get a usable > OS9 boot, but OS X > > is gonna suck massively on any PPC emulator. > > I was afraid of that. My initial thoughts were to > try it on one of the > existing machines and if it worked, then build > something a bit faster. > > > Secondly, you can't get a legal version of OS X > for that use. The > > license agreement specifically restricts you to > using it on Apple > > system. If I was looking to do a light use OS X > box on the > > ultra-cheap, I'd look for an old B&W G3, stuff it > full of PC100 SDRAM > > and run it headless via VNC with OS X 10.3.9 > (which in fact I do). > > Ah, the wonderful world of EULAs. If that's the > case, I may as well run > some piratey goodness from the get go. > > Thanks, Adam. > > -- > Scott Loveless > http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Throw the Book at Him!
> "We're not sure ~exactly~ what he did, but we're sure he did > ~something~ wrong..." Obvious. he/she was driving a Chevy... Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: PESO - Throw the Book at Him! > "We're not sure ~exactly~ what he did, but we're sure he did > ~something~ wrong..." > > http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SEaMtOhUGkI/CNk/n8b0e600KBY/s1600-h/June_04_08+002.jpg > > http://tinyurl.com/4ndl6y > > Comments welcome. > > cheers, > frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: out of the blurr
Axel, I found a picasa album of yours. I liked the picture of feeding the ducks the best. You have some other nice ones as well. The pix of the lane divider in the pool is too blurry for me. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Axel Belinfante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > faded swimming pool shot, with amidst all flat faded blurr > the in-water lane sepator that kind of 3d jumps out of the pic. > > this is at least the effect it has when I watch it full screen on > the monitor, I'm not sure the web version has this in the same way. > > I like the effect enough to share it here. > > it is not my pic - it is by my son Ede who will be 5 in June. > > Pentax W30 > > http://picasaweb.google.com/axelpics/General/photo#5207757006704132034 > > Axel. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - mac osx licensing
Adam Maas wrote: > First off, it's not a good idea performance-wise. There isn't a > PowerPC emulator with anything approaching decent performance, even on > a fast PC you're going to be looking at performance similar to a > PPC604e at best. You might be able to get a usable OS9 boot, but OS X > is gonna suck massively on any PPC emulator. I was afraid of that. My initial thoughts were to try it on one of the existing machines and if it worked, then build something a bit faster. > Secondly, you can't get a legal version of OS X for that use. The > license agreement specifically restricts you to using it on Apple > system. If I was looking to do a light use OS X box on the > ultra-cheap, I'd look for an old B&W G3, stuff it full of PC100 SDRAM > and run it headless via VNC with OS X 10.3.9 (which in fact I do). Ah, the wonderful world of EULAs. If that's the case, I may as well run some piratey goodness from the get go. Thanks, Adam. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - mac osx licensing
On Jun 4, 2008, at 10:41 AM, Scott Loveless wrote: > Gots another questions for the Mac crowd. > > In the very near future I'm going to attempt to run OSX via a PowerPC > emulator on a PC with Linux. Sounds fun, don't it? Doesn't sound like fun to me at all. Sounds like a huge waste of time. And illegal to boot. Note this quote from the Mac OS X v10.5 End User Software License Agreement, (Source: "Welcome to Leopard.app" distributed with the Mac OS X "Leopard" installation DVD.) --- " 2. Permitted License Uses and Restrictions. A. Single Use. This License allows you to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time. You agree not to install, use or run the Apple Software on any non-Apple-labeled computer, or to enable others to do so. This License does not allow the Apple Software to exist on more than one computer at a time, and you may not make the Apple Software available over a network where it could be used by multiple computers at the same time. " --- > In an effort to not > spend much money on this, because I'm not sure that I can get it to > work, what are my options for buying a previous version of OSX? None, unless you buy from some under the table third party sources. Apple does not sell outdated versions of their operating system products on the retail market. Besides, all versions of Mac OS X since v10.4.6 have been Universal Binary ... executables provided for either PowerPC or Intel hardware. I probably have an unopened NFR copy of Mac OS X v10.3 or v10.4 (PowerPC only) somewhere around here that I could give you if you wanted. But it most likely will not work anyway, not without a lot of work. As I said, a huge waste of time. And illegal. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - mac osx licensing
First off, it's not a good idea performance-wise. There isn't a PowerPC emulator with anything approaching decent performance, even on a fast PC you're going to be looking at performance similar to a PPC604e at best. You might be able to get a usable OS9 boot, but OS X is gonna suck massively on any PPC emulator. Secondly, you can't get a legal version of OS X for that use. The license agreement specifically restricts you to using it on Apple system. If I was looking to do a light use OS X box on the ultra-cheap, I'd look for an old B&W G3, stuff it full of PC100 SDRAM and run it headless via VNC with OS X 10.3.9 (which in fact I do). -Adam On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gots another questions for the Mac crowd. > > In the very near future I'm going to attempt to run OSX via a PowerPC > emulator on a PC with Linux. Sounds fun, don't it? In an effort to not > spend much money on this, because I'm not sure that I can get it to > work, what are my options for buying a previous version of OSX? > > Thanks a bunch! > > -- > Scott Loveless > http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: smc PENTAX-DA 17-70mmF4AL[IF] SDM
Jaume, Lighten up and chill out! Grandfather Mountain is a very cheap, high quality, 3 day photo seminar. Cost was $115 this year, with no hotel costs if you camped out. Compare this to other photo seminars you see in magazines. These are the same presenters who run their own 3-5 day seminars at $500 each. It's also a good social activity that helps keep this list out of flame wars. Why don't you sign up for next year and see for yourself. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Jaume Lahuerta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, please, no more OTs. Let's talk about that camping party in the old > mountain instead... > > ;-) > > Jaume > > - Mensaje original > De: David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Enviado: miércoles, 4 de junio, 2008 16:05:16 > Asunto: Re: smc PENTAX-DA 17-70mmF4AL[IF] SDM > > Sorry but: > > Yawn. > > Cheers, > > Dave :-) > > > 2008/6/4 Dario Bonazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0806/08060301pentax17-70sdm.asp > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > > > > __ > Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! La bandeja de entrada más inteligente. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - mac osx licensing
Gots another questions for the Mac crowd. In the very near future I'm going to attempt to run OSX via a PowerPC emulator on a PC with Linux. Sounds fun, don't it? In an effort to not spend much money on this, because I'm not sure that I can get it to work, what are my options for buying a previous version of OSX? Thanks a bunch! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Paddling
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 4:21 PM, drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all. > > Last week we had a short camping holiday in Devon. At a little village > called Malmsmead in the area known as Doone Vally (after the book Lorna > Doone) we found a ford, the kids were desperate to have a paddle. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/rileyelf/2546470618/ That's a lovely photo! Her expression says it all! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to the group - you will be groaning with frustration soon!
welcome to the group! rg2 On 6/4/08, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's not in my spell checker and the suggestion was well, not appropriate... > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hey, without defraction how would we know where to cut de pie? > > > > I think you meant diffraction:-) > > > > Paul > > (being a wise-ass) > > -- Original message -- > > From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> frank theriault wrote: > >> > >>> Well, that clarifies things... > >>> > >>> ;-) > >>> > >> Heck, I didn't even get into defraction... > >> (Jo, don't worry about it, nothing you need to care about right now or > >> probably ever). > >> > >> frank theriault wrote: > >> > >>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:23 AM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> > First you need is a quick course on exposure values and how they effect > the way your camera captures images. There used to be two parameters > that could be readily controlled, aperture and shutter speed, which were > adjusted to give the proper exposure. In addition higher shutter speed > can "freeze" action, aperture controls the depth of apparent focus (the > smaller the aperture, though confusingly enough the larger the aperture > number, the more DOF is available), the combination of the two controls > the amount of light hitting the sensor which will effect the quality of > your results. In addition today you also have control over the > effective ISO of your sensor, higher ISOs will allow faster shutter > speeds to stop more action and more Depth of Field, but above a certain > ISO image quality begins to be degraded by digital noise. Everything is > a compromise, good choices of the three exposure parameters will give > good results but remember you'll have to choose what's most important. > Then there's Flash. Flash can supplement the available light or replace > it, but the same parameters used in natural light still control the look > and quality of the photograph. > > You need to realize that auto focus can be your enemy, I find that in > automatic modes it always picks a part of a scene to focus on other than > the one I wanted, it's especially problematic when you need it most, > (usually in marginal lighting situations). Learn when you can trust > your auto focus and when you need to take a hand. You have chosen a > particularly difficult subject, living creatures with minds of their > own, i.e. puppies, you know their habits and behaviors, your camera > doesn't you have to pick the point of focus to anticipate what you > expect them to be doing next, the camera can't, it generally doesn't > know what you're interested in. You have to be aware of how much DOF > the lens is delivering as well as where the actual point of focus is. > Sometimes you can't get everything in acceptable focus that you want, so > you have to choose, once again a compromise. > > The best way to improve is learn the basics, exposure, and the effects > aperture and shutter speed will have on apparent sharpness and > movement. Practice focusing manually anticipating the movement of your > subject, not an easy thing, I know but there's no way around it. Shoot > lots of pictures and show them to people who know a bit about > photography tell them what you were trying to accomplish and what your > camera settings were. PESOs here can be good for that. You'll get lots > of stupid comments, (not the least of all from me), but you'll also get > some good advice. The almost got what I wanted photos are often the > best to show. > > > > >>> Well, that clarifies things... > >>> > >>> ;-) > >>> > >>> Well, seriously, everything Peter said is true. You have to know > >>> exposure, and light, and how those things interact. What shutter > >>> speed and aperture (and now ISO - with film, ISO was the "film speed" > >>> and couldn't be changed except by changing the roll of film) do to the > >>> incoming light affect the image in major ways: What's light and dark > >>> on the image of course, but also what's sharp or blurry. > >>> > >>> Then there's focus... > >>> > >>> But here's the thing. Reading about it is really difficult (at least > >>> for me). It's so much easier to learn by doing. You have one huge > >>> advantage with your digital camera, which is that you can shoot > >>> (virtually) for free. So shoot away, have fun, don't worry about the > >>> results. > >>> > >>> But if things don't turn out as you expect, find out why. Check in > >>> your EXIF data to see what your shutter speed, aperture and ISO > >>> ratings were, see if you can figure out how those things affected your > >>> result. From there, you may want to control one or more of these > >>> things to try to c
Re: Asahi Hospital - OT?
Scott Loveless wrote: > P. J. Alling wrote: > >> Washington Mutual Insurance has noting to >> do with the Washington Nationals< (baseball team), which has noting to >> do with Washington and Lee University, except for the name... >> >> > Wow. I never would have figured that out on my own. You're gonna tell > me smoking is bad for me next, right? > Well that sort of depends on what you smoke and why... -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
