RE: PESO: Two re-posts

2008-07-08 Thread Bob W
They did get through. I'm surprised you didn't get any comments. The
shot of the tower doesn't do much for me, but I like the shot from the
tower - very atmospheric.

I don't remember seeing the shot of the couple kissing. It's a nice
holiday shot. But what interests me is the riverside. I've never been
on the Rhine, as far as I remember, but I like the way it's so open
for access, and how nice the old architecture etc. looks. This
interests me because I live so close to the Thames, and the area
closest to my house is a building site at the moment while they
redevelop everything and 'improve' the riverside walk. I don't think
it'll be as nice as the one in your picture though.

From this:
http://www.derelictlondon.com/lovells_wharf.htm

To this:
http://www.liveatlovells.com/

Bob 

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 Sent: 08 July 2008 01:37
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 Subject: PESO: Two re-posts
 
 Neither of these got any comments, and one of them isn't in 
 the archives, so they may have gotten lost in holiday cyberspace.
 
 Love by the Rhine was the more recent, taken at dusk in 
 Dusseldorf.  It was an unusual Theriaultian moment for me.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7510816
 
 (K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 560, f/4.5 @ 1/45, RAW via LR).
 
 The second is a pair: the Rheinturm (Dusseldorf's proud 
 tower), and the view of the Rhine from the Rheinturm:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7501703
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7501725
 
 (Same body and lens, RAW via LR)
 
 Cheers,
 
 Rick
 
 
 
   
 
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Rumours, rumours...

2008-07-08 Thread Thibouille
Please don't tell me you don't care, subject is clear so if you don't
want to know or discuss anything, don't read !

* BEGIN RUMOUR NEWS *

In the current state of things (if that can be said for rumours),
Pentax is beleived to introduce at least one new camera around
Photokina, possibly two.
There're a no details about this/these camera(s) but it should be
fairly easy to speculate if anyone wants to.

* if one camera - budget camera (e.g. K1000D) or high end (K1D/K5D)...
* if two camera, seems clear it would be those two except if Pentax
feels they need to upgrade K200D or K20D but it seems doubtful to me.

* END RUMOUR NEWS *

One usualy good source has confirmed that at least one camera was
coming, without giving any detail (NDA as usual).

At least two Pentax distributors have indeed confirmed to a couple
users that the 60-250 wouldn't be there before Photokina :( :(


That's it (much isn't it?) you can get back to your usual stuff.

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Re: Rumours, rumours...

2008-07-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/7/08, Thibouille, discombobulated, unleashed:

* if one camera - budget camera (e.g. K1000D) or high end (K1D/K5D)...

I won't post the link, just for a change :)

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Compressed DNG and Pentax Photo Browser

2008-07-08 Thread Thibouille
I dunno if anyone noticed but latest version (3.51 I think) of Pentax
Photo Broxwser /Laboratory can indeed export to compressed DNG if so
you want.

I tried a conversion with a K100D Raw file.
Compressed DNG : 6.45MB
Original PEF : 10.1MB

The thing is, The Pentax software will only recognize compressed DNG
compressed by itself and NOT DNG compressed by Adobe :(
Lightroom 1.4 did import that compressed DNG without any problem, of course.


Thought it would be interesting to some...

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Re: Rumours, rumours...

2008-07-08 Thread Thibouille
What link? :p

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 8/7/08, Thibouille, discombobulated, unleashed:

* if one camera - budget camera (e.g. K1000D) or high end (K1D/K5D)...

 I won't post the link, just for a change :)

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Re: Environmentally sensitive photo process

2008-07-08 Thread AlunFoto
Hmm...
Contact copies from negatives the size of, like, 1x2 meters.
So how environmentally friendly is the negative production?

Jostein


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 Exposure takes over a week, and print stability isn't all that great,
 but no nasty chemicals to pour down the drain afterwards.

 http://www.creativereview.co.uk/crblog/grass-art/

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RE: PESO: Watching

2008-07-08 Thread Anthony Farr
It does one good to see traditional BW every now and again, to give some
benchmark tonalities against which to compare our digital efforts.

How was the image digitized?  Is this a scan from the film, or from a print?
If a print, was it conventional enlargement or Frontier (or similar)
printing?

IMO the picture is too elongated, which kills its compositional dynamics.  I
realize it's an uncropped frame, with all the altruistic baggage that
attaches, but to my eye the space from a little way below the intersection
of the awning with the left border is superfluous.  Crop it there, and a
tiny bit at the top to compensate, and the composition will jump right off
the screen.

Nevertheless, I love it.

Regards,
Anthony Farr


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 Subject: PESO: Watching
 
 G'day Folks.
 
 Firstly I want to thank all who commented on my Misty Morn PESO.
 You're comments were well received  much appreciated.
 
 Now here's something I took a few weeks ago at a slide show night held
 at a local gallery (~150KB):
 
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3046/2641821115_4d4244aedb_o.jpg
 
 Pentax LX, FA 31mm f1.8, about 1/2 second @ f1.8, Tri-X 400.
 
 Any  all comments welcome.
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: Compressed DNG and Pentax Photo Browser

2008-07-08 Thread Dario Bonazza
Thibouille wrote:

 The thing is, The Pentax software will only recognize compressed DNG
 compressed by itself and NOT DNG compressed by Adobe :(

Yes, I've noticed that, and this makes the whole DNG thing far less 
standardized and appealing than it looks (and should!). For that reason, I 
stick to PEF format, reasonably compact, fully specified (including all the 
exif data as they are written by the camera, not transcoded by 
out-of-control software which could lead to unwelcome suprise) and fully 
supported by Adobe.

On a side note: I've noticed that when converting RAW to JPG with ACR on a 
dedicated PC (either single conversion or batch), the time of shooting is 
retained and it's shown by Windows Explorer set on Details mode, while if I 
do batch conversion in background while working on other software, all 
converted images look like shot at 00.00 time. Anyone else noticed?

Dario 


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FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.

2008-07-08 Thread Thibouille
I'm willing to donate part of my stuff which isn't used for reasons
easy to understand (old/not much interesting) and which would probably
not generate any revenu on Ebay anyway.

I suppose some beginners to photography might find that interesting,
at least for a start.
Stuff offered for free:

- Ricoh KR10X (or XR10 I think it is the same camera)
- non-SMC ! , Pentax-A 28-80 f/3.5-4.5 (one rubber is nicked,
otherwise it is good state).
- Tamron 28/2.5 with hood but without Adaptall2 adapter.
- Tamron 135/2.8 (early adaptall1 but works with adaptall 2)
- Tamon adaptall Pentax K adapter (without the stops reminder for
in-viewfinder reading)
- Tamron 85-210/4.5 macro 1:3 (early adaptall1 but works with adaptall 2)
- Chinon 28/2.8 (bad shape but usable)
- Chinon 50/1.4 (bad shape but usable)


Stuff I wanna get rid of. Make me an offer, as I said I don't expect
much million dollars (hehe) for those but just wouldn't let them go
for nothing :

- Chinon 300/5.6
- Pentax P30t
- Pentax Z1
- AF240FT
- SMC Pentax-M 50/1.4 (I have another already)
- SMC Pentax FA 100/3.5 macro (1:2)
- Tamron Adaptal2 SP 70-210/3.5-4 macro (1:2) which I would bundle
with a rare adaptal2 P-KA adapter (providing same compatibility as a
A-type Pentax lens).

Make me an offer I can't refuse ;)


Posting will be at your charge except of course if you we can meat somewhere.
I'm located in Belgium, Europe (really? ;)

I can of course provide more information on any of those objects if
needed, provide pictures etc.

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Re: Environmentally sensitive photo process

2008-07-08 Thread mike wilson
I read it that they project the negative (in 12hour bursts over a week) onto 
the substrate.  How do they stop it from melting??
 
 From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/07/08 Tue AM 09:51:45 GMT
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 Subject: Re: Environmentally sensitive photo process
 
 Hmm...
 Contact copies from negatives the size of, like, 1x2 meters.
 So how environmentally friendly is the negative production?
 
 Jostein
 
 
 2008/7/7 Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Exposure takes over a week, and print stability isn't all that great,
  but no nasty chemicals to pour down the drain afterwards.
 
  http://www.creativereview.co.uk/crblog/grass-art/



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Re: Rumours, rumours...

2008-07-08 Thread timber
Not much after PMA there was a 'rumour' that german Pentax fan forum users
met the german Pentax guys to test the K20D and they said there will be
two new Pentax cams at Photokina, one with 3 digits and one with 1 digits.
So K2D (since K1D existed as a prototype) is very probable and I hope the
3 digit one is the 645D (remember PMA? There was a hint about 645D).

I believe the K2D will use the new Full Frame Samsung CMOS and hopefully
not targeted to be a competitor to the Pro (Canon EOS 1D MarkIV/Nikon D3)
level but the EOS 5D/D700.

K1000D low budget cam? I don't really think that would be necessary. The
K200D is very well placed in the budget category (it's cheap enough but
with only a few compromises need to made). A few bucks cheaper cam would
make no sense at all to me (like Canon EOS 1000D...) since so far Pentax
seemed to me to target quality over marketing features.

An entry-level MF camera would be a big hit and nowadays the technology
is ready for a cheaper production. If Pentax could manage to sell it
around a bit higher than the EOS 1Ds MarkIV (approx 10K$) then it could
easily take place next to the Pro Level DSLRs of Canon and Nikon. Lens are
already available for the 645 system... So let's hope :D Also at
http://www.pentaximaging.com/purchase/find_a_store you can still see the
product category: digital medium format.

Cheers,
.t

 Please don't tell me you don't care, subject is clear so if you don't
 want to know or discuss anything, don't read !

 * BEGIN RUMOUR NEWS *

 In the current state of things (if that can be said for rumours),
 Pentax is beleived to introduce at least one new camera around
 Photokina, possibly two.
 There're a no details about this/these camera(s) but it should be
 fairly easy to speculate if anyone wants to.

 * if one camera - budget camera (e.g. K1000D) or high end (K1D/K5D)...
 * if two camera, seems clear it would be those two except if Pentax
 feels they need to upgrade K200D or K20D but it seems doubtful to me.

 * END RUMOUR NEWS *

 One usualy good source has confirmed that at least one camera was
 coming, without giving any detail (NDA as usual).

 At least two Pentax distributors have indeed confirmed to a couple
 users that the 60-250 wouldn't be there before Photokina :( :(


 That's it (much isn't it?) you can get back to your usual stuff.

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Re: Stonehenge

2008-07-08 Thread AlunFoto
Chiming in late on this one...
A very nice set, Bob.
First thought that struck me was the weather... looking more like
rain-stice than sol-stice (doohh). But I guess that's Britain for
you... :-)

The magnum link doesn't yield any pics anymore, but I can sort of
imagine how the celebrations get... hmmm... hooliganised(?) over the
years.

Jostein


2008/6/22 Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Here are my shots from Stonehenge over the solstice:

 http://www.web-options.com/SH2008/

 As I said when I posted the Filly Loo shots, I made a number of
 technical mistakes, but thanks to Dr. Lightroom's Rescue Remedy I have
 managed to recover some of them. In any case, I now know a lot more
 about 2nd-curtain slow-sync flash than I did a couple of days ago.
 I'll go again next year, and hope to get it right.

 Comments welcome, of course.

 It was an extremely tiring time. I drove to Ashmore from London,
 arriving at about 6pm. Things started to kick off at 7pm and went on
 until about 10.30. From there I drove to Stonehenge, arriving at about
 11.30pm. I left at about 6am, having been on my feet carrying a heavy
 camera bag with food and drink the whole time. It took a few hours to
 get back to London, which I really shouldn't have driven - I nearly
 nodded off at the wheel several times. When I got home I felt the urge
 for a fry-up so I went out to a café, ordered the full monty, and fell
 asleep at the table before I finished it!

 Anyway, it's interesting to compare this year's Stonehenge with the
 celebrations in gentler times, as shown on the Magnum site:

 http://tinyurl.com/2cn64b
 http://www.magnumphotos.com/Archive/C.aspx?VP=XSpecific_MAG.Search01_V
 Page

 Bob


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Re: PESO - At the Show

2008-07-08 Thread Doug Brewer
Doug Brewer wrote:
 for you people fans:
 
 http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=280
 

thank you Fernando, Paul and Frank.

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Re: Stonehenge

2008-07-08 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/07/08 Tue AM 11:58:21 GMT
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 Subject: Re: Stonehenge
 
 Chiming in late on this one...
 A very nice set, Bob.
 First thought that struck me was the weather... looking more like
 rain-stice than sol-stice (doohh). But I guess that's Britain for
 you... :-)
 
 The magnum link doesn't yield any pics anymore, but I can sort of
 imagine how the celebrations get... hmmm... hooliganised(?) over the
 years.
 
 Jostein

If you put solstice into the search engine there, you get some pictures of 
Druids by George Rodger from 1960.
 
 
 2008/6/22 Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Here are my shots from Stonehenge over the solstice:
 
  http://www.web-options.com/SH2008/
 
  As I said when I posted the Filly Loo shots, I made a number of
  technical mistakes, but thanks to Dr. Lightroom's Rescue Remedy I have
  managed to recover some of them. In any case, I now know a lot more
  about 2nd-curtain slow-sync flash than I did a couple of days ago.
  I'll go again next year, and hope to get it right.
 
  Comments welcome, of course.
 
  It was an extremely tiring time. I drove to Ashmore from London,
  arriving at about 6pm. Things started to kick off at 7pm and went on
  until about 10.30. From there I drove to Stonehenge, arriving at about
  11.30pm. I left at about 6am, having been on my feet carrying a heavy
  camera bag with food and drink the whole time. It took a few hours to
  get back to London, which I really shouldn't have driven - I nearly
  nodded off at the wheel several times. When I got home I felt the urge
  for a fry-up so I went out to a café, ordered the full monty, and fell
  asleep at the table before I finished it!
 
  Anyway, it's interesting to compare this year's Stonehenge with the
  celebrations in gentler times, as shown on the Magnum site:
 
  http://tinyurl.com/2cn64b
  http://www.magnumphotos.com/Archive/C.aspx?VP=XSpecific_MAG.Search01_V
  Page
 
  Bob
 
 
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Re: Environmentally sensitive photo process

2008-07-08 Thread William Robb

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I read it that they project the negative (in 12hour bursts over a week) onto 
the substrate. 
How do they stop it from melting??


It's just light.
My lawn gets well over 12 hours of light per day for several months of the year.
Do you guys not get sunlight in Scotland?
No wonder you are such a dour lot.

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Re: PESO: Watching

2008-07-08 Thread David Savage
Thanks Paul.

Cheers,

Dave

2008/7/7  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Held my interest. A unique perspective.
 Paul

 From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3046/2641821115_4d4244aedb_o.jpg

 Pentax LX, FA 31mm f1.8, about 1/2 second @ f1.8, Tri-X 400.

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Re: PESO - Ferrari!

2008-07-08 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:25 PM, Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There's something about a Ferrari...

 Yeah, they're supposed to be red !

 Gonna come down  shoot the cruise? ;+]

I would love to.  Transportation and border issues would, I'm afraid,
hamper any plans.  I lost my passport a while back, and I've never
gotten around to replacing it.

cheers,
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Re: PESO: Watching

2008-07-08 Thread David Savage
2008/7/8 Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 David Savage wrote:
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3046/2641821115_4d4244aedb_o.jpg
 Pentax LX, FA 31mm f1.8, about 1/2 second @ f1.8, Tri-X 400.

 Is that Gordon Ramsay?

LOL.

Nah, he's a local photographer I know.

 Good to see the LX still out and about.

It's the second roll of film I've put through this body since getting it.

I was swapping between the the K20D  LX  I have to say I miss big
bright viewfinders :-)

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: PESO: Watching

2008-07-08 Thread David Savage
2008/7/8 frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:35 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3046/2641821115_4d4244aedb_o.jpg
 Pentax LX, FA 31mm f1.8, about 1/2 second @ f1.8, Tri-X 400.

 Wow, shot with film!

I've reclaimed a small portion of my lost photographic soul ;-)

 Terrific photo!

Thanks mate.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: PESO: Watching

2008-07-08 Thread David Savage
2008/7/8 Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 It does one good to see traditional BW every now and again, to give some
 benchmark tonalities against which to compare our digital efforts.

I thought the same thing too.

 How was the image digitized?  Is this a scan from the film, or from a print?
 If a print, was it conventional enlargement or Frontier (or similar)
 printing?

This was scanned from the negative with a Epson Perfection 3200 flatbed.

 IMO the picture is too elongated, which kills its compositional dynamics.  I
 realize it's an uncropped frame, with all the altruistic baggage that
 attaches, but to my eye the space from a little way below the intersection
 of the awning with the left border is superfluous.  Crop it there, and a
 tiny bit at the top to compensate, and the composition will jump right off
 the screen.

Since I'm going all purist (ahem...cough-bullshit*-cough), no
cropping.after the fact :-)

I do see where you are coming from though.

 Nevertheless, I love it.

Thanks Anthony.

Cheers,

Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 David Savage
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3046/2641821115_4d4244aedb_o.jpg
 Pentax LX, FA 31mm f1.8, about 1/2 second @ f1.8, Tri-X 400.

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Re: Watching

2008-07-08 Thread David Savage
2008/7/7 William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 - Original Message -
 From: David Savage
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3046/2641821115_4d4244aedb_o.jpg
 Pentax LX, FA 31mm f1.8, about 1/2 second @ f1.8, Tri-X 400.

 Film? How quaint.

It's been sooo long since I had developed a roll, I thought I may
have forgotten. I hadn't.

 Nice bokeh.

It's is a handy FL on film.

Cheers,

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Re: Rumours, rumours...

2008-07-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Thibouille wrote:

 * if one camera - budget camera (e.g. K1000D) or high end (K1D/K5D)...
 * if two camera, seems clear it would be those two except if Pentax
 feels they need to upgrade K200D or K20D but it seems doubtful to me.

Not much news there. They've said the second camera was coming and 
anyone who couldn't have predicted the first (budget) camera just hasn't 
been paying attention.

BTW: Though there's much clamor for a full-frame camera (still a couple 
of years away, IMO), my experience with the K20D has been so good I 
think its sensor and electronics *as is* could be the basis for a 
serious pro camera - it's that good. Just drop the K20D 
sensor/electronics into a heavy duty body, give it an upgraded 
shutter/mirror box assembly (shorter mirror black-out, faster flash 
sync, higher frame rate, etc.) and you'd have a real contender, whether 
it's called a K1D or not.


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Re: Rumours, rumours...

2008-07-08 Thread Adam Maas
Over here, the K200D is massively overpriced. It's not a budget camera
at all. I can get a Nikon D40 for under $450CDN, or a Sony A200 (which
matches or exceeds the K200D in all regards except weather sealing)
for $500 or less, both of those with their respective kit lenses but a
K200D just dropped to $700, still $50 more than the A200 _Launched_
at.

Needless to say, nobody's buying K200D's in Canada. It's been a
massive failure. And US pricing is WORSE for Pentax (K200D is $800
with $100 mail in rebate, A200 is $500).

Pentax badly needs a competitive budget camera, every other maker has
a better option right now (either less money or more features 
performance AND less money).

-Adam

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:37 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Not much after PMA there was a 'rumour' that german Pentax fan forum users
 met the german Pentax guys to test the K20D and they said there will be
 two new Pentax cams at Photokina, one with 3 digits and one with 1 digits.
 So K2D (since K1D existed as a prototype) is very probable and I hope the
 3 digit one is the 645D (remember PMA? There was a hint about 645D).

 I believe the K2D will use the new Full Frame Samsung CMOS and hopefully
 not targeted to be a competitor to the Pro (Canon EOS 1D MarkIV/Nikon D3)
 level but the EOS 5D/D700.

 K1000D low budget cam? I don't really think that would be necessary. The
 K200D is very well placed in the budget category (it's cheap enough but
 with only a few compromises need to made). A few bucks cheaper cam would
 make no sense at all to me (like Canon EOS 1000D...) since so far Pentax
 seemed to me to target quality over marketing features.

 An entry-level MF camera would be a big hit and nowadays the technology
 is ready for a cheaper production. If Pentax could manage to sell it
 around a bit higher than the EOS 1Ds MarkIV (approx 10K$) then it could
 easily take place next to the Pro Level DSLRs of Canon and Nikon. Lens are
 already available for the 645 system... So let's hope :D Also at
 http://www.pentaximaging.com/purchase/find_a_store you can still see the
 product category: digital medium format.

 Cheers,
 .t

 Please don't tell me you don't care, subject is clear so if you don't
 want to know or discuss anything, don't read !

 * BEGIN RUMOUR NEWS *

 In the current state of things (if that can be said for rumours),
 Pentax is beleived to introduce at least one new camera around
 Photokina, possibly two.
 There're a no details about this/these camera(s) but it should be
 fairly easy to speculate if anyone wants to.

 * if one camera - budget camera (e.g. K1000D) or high end (K1D/K5D)...
 * if two camera, seems clear it would be those two except if Pentax
 feels they need to upgrade K200D or K20D but it seems doubtful to me.

 * END RUMOUR NEWS *

 One usualy good source has confirmed that at least one camera was
 coming, without giving any detail (NDA as usual).

 At least two Pentax distributors have indeed confirmed to a couple
 users that the 60-250 wouldn't be there before Photokina :( :(


 That's it (much isn't it?) you can get back to your usual stuff.

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PESO - Scooting Along Bloor

2008-07-08 Thread frank theriault
If you haven't noticed, I have a weakness for scooters:

http://tinyurl.com/68t52g

http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHNa0E61IzI/CkI/MsROvCSMkUs/s1600-h/july_07_08+007.jpg

When I first looked at this on the back of the camera, I was thinking
that I should have zoomed out a bit to get the whole scooter, but the
more I look at this the more I like it with the tight crop (it's
actually shown full frame).  Any thoughts?  Is it too tight?  At least
this way it's different from my other scooter grabs.

Comments appreciated.

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Re: PESO - Scooting Along Bloor

2008-07-08 Thread Boris Liberman
May be a tad too tight to my taste...

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 4:02 PM, frank theriault
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If you haven't noticed, I have a weakness for scooters:

 http://tinyurl.com/68t52g

 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHNa0E61IzI/CkI/MsROvCSMkUs/s1600-h/july_07_08+007.jpg

 When I first looked at this on the back of the camera, I was thinking
 that I should have zoomed out a bit to get the whole scooter, but the
 more I look at this the more I like it with the tight crop (it's
 actually shown full frame).  Any thoughts?  Is it too tight?  At least
 this way it's different from my other scooter grabs.

 Comments appreciated.

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Re: Rumours, rumours...

2008-07-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Adam Maas wrote:

 Pentax badly needs a competitive budget camera, every other maker has
 a better option right now (either less money or more features 
 performance AND less money).

What *someone* needs to make is a real student camera, along the lines 
of the K1000: Manual everything (*Especially* ISO selection!) The 
problem is that so many features are implemented in software now that 
it's difficult for anyone to justify removing the extra automation. I 
wouldn't be surprised if economies of scale make producing a manual 
focus body more expensive than an autofocus one, just because the MF 
would sell in such small numbers, though I suppose you could cripple the 
AF in the firmware.

The only hope is that there are enough high schools and colleges that 
would buy such a camera to make it a viable business proposition. Not 
very likely, IMO, but we can hope ;-)


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Re: PESO: Finch Tryst

2008-07-08 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:04 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just veg'n on the patio when this pair began to carry on. Had the FA 80~320 
 nearby.
 Gave it a seedy unseemly look for naughty impact. Notice they, also, appear 
 to be playing footsie. shocking!!

 Jack(voyeur)

 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=316

 Comments always welcome.

I really like the rendering of this one, along with the composition.
Not your usual bird pic!

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RE: PESO: Watching

2008-07-08 Thread Anthony Farr
 -Original Message-
 From: David Savage

This was scanned from the negative with a Epson Perfection 3200 flatbed.

Excellent scan.  It looks very like the tonal rendering of Agfa
Multicontrast, my preferred normal quality paper in its day.

Regards,
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Re: Rumours, rumours...

2008-07-08 Thread timber
 Pentax badly needs a competitive budget camera, every other maker has
 a better option right now (either less money or more features 
 performance AND less money).

What I would like to see is a budget camera with Live View :D So it would
make a great UV/IR Cam :P The Pentax K20D is just a bit pricey for
modding...

.t


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Re: PESO: Vivian in the Clouds

2008-07-08 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My daughter-in-law borrowed one of my K10Ds to take this photo of my
 granddaughter. Fill flash worked well for her, eh?

 www.bob.blakely.com/Vivian_ITC.jpg

I love it.  Great expression on Viv's face, and ~very~ interesting composition!

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Re: Rumours, rumours...

2008-07-08 Thread Thibouille
I indeed think that LiveView is mandatory or about on a low-end
camera, just because guys from PS will be happy.
More importantly, it needs cheap price and very good marketing exposure.

Nikon is selling shedloads of D40/D40X/D60 without any liveview but
they have a damn good marketing presence (not even talking about
Canon).


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Re: PESO - Scooting Along Bloor

2008-07-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nice pan, fun shot. If she knew you were firing, she would have  
sucked in that tummy:-).
Paul
On Jul 8, 2008, at 9:02 AM, frank theriault wrote:

 If you haven't noticed, I have a weakness for scooters:

 http://tinyurl.com/68t52g

 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHNa0E61IzI/CkI/ 
 MsROvCSMkUs/s1600-h/july_07_08+007.jpg

 When I first looked at this on the back of the camera, I was thinking
 that I should have zoomed out a bit to get the whole scooter, but the
 more I look at this the more I like it with the tight crop (it's
 actually shown full frame).  Any thoughts?  Is it too tight?  At least
 this way it's different from my other scooter grabs.

 Comments appreciated.

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Re: PESO - Scooting Along Bloor

2008-07-08 Thread Paul Sorenson
I'd prefer not so tight - a little further out so you can see the blur 
of the spinning wheels along w/the pan would make it better IMO.

-p

frank theriault wrote:
 If you haven't noticed, I have a weakness for scooters:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/68t52g
 
 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHNa0E61IzI/CkI/MsROvCSMkUs/s1600-h/july_07_08+007.jpg
 
 When I first looked at this on the back of the camera, I was thinking
 that I should have zoomed out a bit to get the whole scooter, but the
 more I look at this the more I like it with the tight crop (it's
 actually shown full frame).  Any thoughts?  Is it too tight?  At least
 this way it's different from my other scooter grabs.
 
 Comments appreciated.
 
 cheers,
 frank
 


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PESO: Traffic, what traffic?

2008-07-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
For Frank.
Check out that heavy duty brain bucket.
Paul

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7521717size=lg

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Re: Rumours, rumours...

2008-07-08 Thread Adam Maas
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:20 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Pentax badly needs a competitive budget camera, every other maker has
 a better option right now (either less money or more features 
 performance AND less money).

 What I would like to see is a budget camera with Live View :D So it would
 make a great UV/IR Cam :P The Pentax K20D is just a bit pricey for
 modding...

 .t


Oly E-420  E-520, Canon Rebel XS, Sony A300. Oly  Canon have
sensor-based live view, Sony has second-sensor live view and a flip-up
LCD. All cheaper than the K200D.


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Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.

2008-07-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/7/08, Thibouille, discombobulated, unleashed:


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OT - Question to birding people

2008-07-08 Thread AlunFoto
Gang,

Tim and I are puzzled by a behavioural trait in the Great Skua at
Runde, which we can't find any good explanation for on the web.

The skua is a rather aggressive bird, known to dive-bomb people coming
too close to the nest. However, at Runde the birds would also
frequently sit down on the path, and keep sitting until people come
quite close; up to a couple of meters.

The most likely candidate explanations, imo, are:
1. This is a beginning predator diversion behaviour, that the bird
will fly up, move away from the nest and sit down again to lure people
away from the nest.
2. This is simple territory marking; here i reign, don't step closer.
3. Predator inspection behaviour.
4. habituation to human presence.

Would appreciate all kinds of ideas and pointers, since the
implications for disturbing the nests are quite different, depending
on the reason for the behaviour.

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Re: PESO: Finch Tryst

2008-07-08 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Frank! A complete departure for me. Glad you approve of the heavy crop.
Small birds, obviously, and hand held at about 40 ft away. A stern test for the 
FA 80-~320(at 320mm), but not a factor with this rendering.

Jack 


--- On Tue, 7/8/08, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: PESO: Finch Tryst
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 6:12 AM
 On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:04 PM, Jack Davis
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Just veg'n on the patio when this pair began to
 carry on. Had the FA 80~320 nearby.
  Gave it a seedy unseemly look for naughty impact.
 Notice they, also, appear to be playing footsie.
 shocking!!
 
  Jack(voyeur)
 
 
 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=316
 
  Comments always welcome.
 
 I really like the rendering of this one, along with the
 composition.
 Not your usual bird pic!
 
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Re: OT - Question to birding people

2008-07-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/7/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:


The skua is a rather aggressive bird, known to dive-bomb people coming
too close to the nest. However, at Runde the birds would also
frequently sit down on the path, and keep sitting until people come
quite close; up to a couple of meters.

The most likely candidate explanations, imo, are:
1. This is a beginning predator diversion behaviour, that the bird
will fly up, move away from the nest and sit down again to lure people
away from the nest.
2. This is simple territory marking; here i reign, don't step closer.
3. Predator inspection behaviour.
4. habituation to human presence.

5. They were tired after rather a long squawk.

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Re: PESO: Traffic, what traffic?

2008-07-08 Thread Jack Davis
I'd suggest a WIDE LOAD sign on his back.
Approaching traffic adds greatly. Good catch, Paul!

Jack


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 For Frank.
 Check out that heavy duty brain bucket.
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Re: Rumours, rumours...

2008-07-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/7/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:

Not much after PMA there was a 'rumour' that german Pentax fan forum users
met the german Pentax guys to test the K20D and they said there will be
two new Pentax cams at Photokina, one with 3 digits and one with 1 digits.
So K2D (since K1D existed as a prototype) is very probable and I hope the
3 digit one is the 645D (remember PMA? There was a hint about 645D).

I believe the K2D will use the new Full Frame Samsung CMOS and hopefully
not targeted to be a competitor to the Pro (Canon EOS 1D MarkIV/Nikon D3)
level but the EOS 5D/D700.

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Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.

2008-07-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote:
 On 8/7/08, Thibouille, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Posting will be at your charge except of course if you we can meat somewhere.
 
 That's a rare offer.

That's OK. Bill doesn't have much at steak.


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Re: OT - Question to birding people

2008-07-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/7/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:

3. Predator inspection behaviour.

Hang on a minute, I've been thinking about this one :-/

Are you serious?

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Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.

2008-07-08 Thread Thibouille
Gez and I attempted to have full concentration NOT to make this
very mistake =D

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Posting will be at your charge except of course if you we can meat somewhere.

 That's a rare offer.

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Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.

2008-07-08 Thread Cotty


 Posting will be at your charge except of course if you we can meat
somewhere.

 That's a rare offer.

That's OK. Bill doesn't have much at steak.

So why put him on the rack then?



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Re: OT - Question to birding people

2008-07-08 Thread AlunFoto
The Dodo's problem was that it didn't understand the concept of a predator.
Many animals do predator inspection, ranging at least from
sticklebacks to zebras. It usually looks like showing off to the
predator. Kinda like a hey you, catch me if you can game. :-)

In the skua case I don't think it's likely, but I wanted the
suggestion on the table anyway.

Jostein


2008/7/8 Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On 8/7/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:

3. Predator inspection behaviour.

 Hang on a minute, I've been thinking about this one :-/

 Are you serious?

 Didn't the Dodo used to do this?

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Re: OT - Question to birding people

2008-07-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/7/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:

In the skua case I don't think it's likely, but I wanted the
suggestion on the table anyway.

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Re: PESO: Traffic, what traffic?

2008-07-08 Thread pnstenquist
Thanks Jack. 
 -- Original message --
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 I'd suggest a WIDE LOAD sign on his back.
 Approaching traffic adds greatly. Good catch, Paul!
 
 Jack
 
 
 --- On Tue, 7/8/08, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
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  Subject: PESO: Traffic, what traffic?
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  For Frank.
  Check out that heavy duty brain bucket.
  Paul
  
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7521717size=lg
  
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Re: OT - Question to birding people

2008-07-08 Thread Jack Davis
Yes, done to a tern.

Jack


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 In the skua case I don't think it's likely, but
 I wanted the
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 So does the predator ;)
 
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Re: PESO - Scooting Along Bloor

2008-07-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
Frank,
As shot, I'd say it's more about the woman than the scooter.
Regards,  Bob S.

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 If you haven't noticed, I have a weakness for scooters:

 http://tinyurl.com/68t52g

 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHNa0E61IzI/CkI/MsROvCSMkUs/s1600-h/july_07_08+007.jpg

 When I first looked at this on the back of the camera, I was thinking
 that I should have zoomed out a bit to get the whole scooter, but the
 more I look at this the more I like it with the tight crop (it's
 actually shown full frame).  Any thoughts?  Is it too tight?  At least
 this way it's different from my other scooter grabs.

 Comments appreciated.

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Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.

2008-07-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote:
 
 Posting will be at your charge except of course if you we can meat
 somewhere.
 That's a rare offer.
 That's OK. Bill doesn't have much at steak.
 
 So why put him on the rack then?

I'm trying to out-flank him.


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Re: PESO: Traffic, what traffic?

2008-07-08 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 For Frank.
 Check out that heavy duty brain bucket.
 Paul

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7521717size=lg

Har!

I wonder if that's what Roger Clemens looks like now that he's - er,
um - not working out any more...

;-)

You're right, great helmet!  Fun shot, good grab.

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Re: PESO: Traffic, what traffic?

2008-07-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote:
 For Frank.
 Check out that heavy duty brain bucket.
 Paul
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7521717size=lg

Great shot!

It's the same model scooter as in my Happy Frog photo:
http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7d402801.htm

(Also available in my Auto Parts book for a very reasonable price! :-P
http://www.robertstech.com/autopart.htm)





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Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.

2008-07-08 Thread Cotty


 Posting will be at your charge except of course if you we can meat
 somewhere.
 That's a rare offer.
 That's OK. Bill doesn't have much at steak.

 So why put him on the rack then?

I'm trying to out-flank him.

Look, all this ribbing isn't fair on Thibouille...



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Re: GESO - 600mm collection

2008-07-08 Thread Ken Waller
Looks like you've got the hang of the 600.

Nice images all, especially the bird shots.

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: GESO - 600mm collection


I've grouped some shots with the FA*600/4 into one gallery.
There are 10 images. 3 of them have been posted to the List before.

The first 2 are from John Mustarde's garden in Paris, Texas.
The third is one I've shown before from Østensjøvannet, and the rest
is from last week-end's foray at Runde.

http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/thumbnails.php?album=8

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Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.

2008-07-08 Thread Gonz
I think he has a beef with him

On 7/8/08, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   Posting will be at your charge except of course if you we can meat
   somewhere.
   That's a rare offer.
   That's OK. Bill doesn't have much at steak.
  
   So why put him on the rack then?
  
  I'm trying to out-flank him.


 Look, all this ribbing isn't fair on Thibouille...




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Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.

2008-07-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote:
 
 Posting will be at your charge except of course if you we can meat
 somewhere.
 That's a rare offer.
 That's OK. Bill doesn't have much at steak.
 So why put him on the rack then?
 I'm trying to out-flank him.
 
 Look, all this ribbing isn't fair on Thibouille...

But it's too late for him to save his bacon now.



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Re: PESO - Scooting Along Bloor

2008-07-08 Thread Ken Waller
She must be serious, she's wearing driving gloves !

Nice capture, but I'd like to see more of the scooter, maybe to where the 
tires touch the street.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PESO - Scooting Along Bloor


 If you haven't noticed, I have a weakness for scooters:

 http://tinyurl.com/68t52g

 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHNa0E61IzI/CkI/MsROvCSMkUs/s1600-h/july_07_08+007.jpg

 When I first looked at this on the back of the camera, I was thinking
 that I should have zoomed out a bit to get the whole scooter, but the
 more I look at this the more I like it with the tight crop (it's
 actually shown full frame).  Any thoughts?  Is it too tight?  At least
 this way it's different from my other scooter grabs.

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Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.

2008-07-08 Thread Ken Waller

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

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From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff,some others I wanna get out 
cheaply etc.


 On 8/7/08, Thibouille, discombobulated, unleashed:


Posting will be at your charge except of course if you we can meat 
somewhere.

 That's a rare offer.

A typical slice of life here @ PDML.


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Re: PESO: Underground Berlin

2008-07-08 Thread David Savage
I like it.

The contrast between the natural  artificial light is very neat.

Cheers,

Dave

2008/7/7 Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 An UBahn station in Berlin.  The different qualities of light intrigued me.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7512517

 K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 1600, f/6.7 @ 1/10, RAW via LR.

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Re: Traffic, what traffic?

2008-07-08 Thread Ken Waller
Nice one Paul, but I'd re-title it brain, what brain ?

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: PESO: Traffic, what traffic?


 For Frank.
 Check out that heavy duty brain bucket.
 Paul
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7521717size=lg


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Re: OT - Question to birding people

2008-07-08 Thread Ken Waller
Looking for food ? That is are the visitors feeding them ?

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: OT - Question to birding people


 Gang,
 
 Tim and I are puzzled by a behavioural trait in the Great Skua at
 Runde, which we can't find any good explanation for on the web.
 
 The skua is a rather aggressive bird, known to dive-bomb people coming
 too close to the nest. However, at Runde the birds would also
 frequently sit down on the path, and keep sitting until people come
 quite close; up to a couple of meters.
 
 The most likely candidate explanations, imo, are:
 1. This is a beginning predator diversion behaviour, that the bird
 will fly up, move away from the nest and sit down again to lure people
 away from the nest.
 2. This is simple territory marking; here i reign, don't step closer.
 3. Predator inspection behaviour.
 4. habituation to human presence.
 
 Would appreciate all kinds of ideas and pointers, since the
 implications for disturbing the nests are quite different, depending
 on the reason for the behaviour.
 
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Re: PESO: Two re-posts

2008-07-08 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Neither of these got any comments, and one of them isn't in the archives, so 
 they may have gotten lost in holiday cyberspace.

 Love by the Rhine was the more recent, taken at dusk in Dusseldorf.  It was 
 an unusual Theriaultian moment for me.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7510816

 (K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 560, f/4.5 @ 1/45, RAW via LR).

 The second is a pair: the Rheinturm (Dusseldorf's proud tower), and the view 
 of the Rhine from the Rheinturm:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7501703

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7501725

 (Same body and lens, RAW via LR)



I didn't see any of these, but I've been falling behind on my PESOs
and PAWs lately.

The couple kissing is nice - a bit more tilt and blur, a bit more
monochrome and you'll get the hang of it!  ;-)

Seriously, it's a lovely shot, but as someone else mentioned, it seems
a bit dark on my monitor.

Of the other two, the shot of the tower is okay, but not spectacular -
hard to take a shot of one of those (Toronto has it's CN Tower, which
I've shot many times, and they're all ho-hum) and make it look
different.  The shot ~from~ the tower of the Rhine is truly
spectacular!  The gorgeous sky only adds to the beautiful composition.
 Wonderful shot!

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Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.

2008-07-08 Thread John Graves
Mark Roberts wrote:
 Cotty wrote:
   
 Posting will be at your charge except of course if you we can meat
 somewhere.
   
 That's a rare offer.
 
 That's OK. Bill doesn't have much at steak.
   
 So why put him on the rack then?
 
 I'm trying to out-flank him.
   
 Look, all this ribbing isn't fair on Thibouille...
 

Is this another over-done meating at PDML?

John Graves
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Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.

2008-07-08 Thread David Savage
2008/7/8 Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Gez and I attempted to have full concentration NOT to make this
 very mistake =D

Don't sweat it.

I'm pretty sure that most here can't write Belgian, anywhere near as
good as you can English.

Cheers,

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Re: OT - Question to birding people

2008-07-08 Thread AlunFoto
2008/7/8 Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Looking for food ? That is are the visitors feeding them ?

The great skuas at Runde are mostly kleptoparasites on the gannets.
They don't scoff at a fresh seal carcass either. The species as a
whole have a diet ranging from fish to other birds or small mammals
(lemmings and mice), and carrion, but the local populations tend to be
specialised in various ways.

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Re: PESO: Underground Berlin

2008-07-08 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Dave.  I also like the K10D's image quality at ISO 1600, when one is 
careful not to under-expose.

Rick


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 Subject: Re: PESO: Underground Berlin
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 Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 11:05 AM
 I like it.
 
 The contrast between the natural  artificial light is
 very neat.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Dave
 
 2008/7/7 Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  An UBahn station in Berlin.  The different qualities
 of light intrigued me.
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7512517
 
  K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 1600, f/6.7 @ 1/10, RAW via LR.
 
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Re: OT - Question to birding people

2008-07-08 Thread Tim Øsleby
Posible but unlikely.
I can't imagine people carrying raw fish or left overs of fish into
the mountain plateu to feed them. I haven't observed people with dead
gulls sticking up from their chest pocket either ;-)
This said, It is posible for them to change their diet. But we talked
to several other birders, and none have mentioned something about
feeding the skua.

2008/7/8 Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Looking for food ? That is are the visitors feeding them ?

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

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 From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: OT - Question to birding people


 Gang,

 Tim and I are puzzled by a behavioural trait in the Great Skua at
 Runde, which we can't find any good explanation for on the web.

 The skua is a rather aggressive bird, known to dive-bomb people coming
 too close to the nest. However, at Runde the birds would also
 frequently sit down on the path, and keep sitting until people come
 quite close; up to a couple of meters.

 The most likely candidate explanations, imo, are:
 1. This is a beginning predator diversion behaviour, that the bird
 will fly up, move away from the nest and sit down again to lure people
 away from the nest.
 2. This is simple territory marking; here i reign, don't step closer.
 3. Predator inspection behaviour.
 4. habituation to human presence.

 Would appreciate all kinds of ideas and pointers, since the
 implications for disturbing the nests are quite different, depending
 on the reason for the behaviour.

 Jostein

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Re: OT - Question to birding people

2008-07-08 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 10:00 AM, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The most likely candidate explanations, imo, are:
 1. This is a beginning predator diversion behaviour, that the bird
 will fly up, move away from the nest and sit down again to lure people
 away from the nest.

Killdeer are famous for feigning a broken wing as a distraction
display, but I also frequently see them feigning nesting--they'll
squat down on a patch of ground as if brooding.  They hold the
position until you get close, then fly off.  The intent, presumably,
is to get predators to waste time looking for nests that don't exist.
It seems plausible to me that the skuas are doing the same thing.

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Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.

2008-07-08 Thread Thibouille
Dave, be assured that I smiled reading this thread.
I don't care at all, it's PDML ;)

That said, I'm afraid, some will not even look at the original topic ...

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Re: OT - Question to birding people

2008-07-08 Thread AlunFoto
Both plovers and redshanks exhibit this behavour too. It seems to be
quite common among waders. However, there seems to be no mention of
this among gulls or jaegers...

Jostein

2008/7/8 Matthew Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 10:00 AM, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The most likely candidate explanations, imo, are:
 1. This is a beginning predator diversion behaviour, that the bird
 will fly up, move away from the nest and sit down again to lure people
 away from the nest.

 Killdeer are famous for feigning a broken wing as a distraction
 display, but I also frequently see them feigning nesting--they'll
 squat down on a patch of ground as if brooding.  They hold the
 position until you get close, then fly off.  The intent, presumably,
 is to get predators to waste time looking for nests that don't exist.
 It seems plausible to me that the skuas are doing the same thing.

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Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.

2008-07-08 Thread David Savage
2008/7/8 Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I don't care at all, it's PDML ;)

HAR!

Mark!

 That said, I'm afraid, some will not even look at the original topic ...

It does get that way.

Cheers,

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Re: Traffic, what traffic?

2008-07-08 Thread pnstenquist
Thanks Ken. Yeah, the scooter crowd seems oblivious to the dangers of the 
street.
Paul
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From: Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Nice one Paul, but I'd re-title it brain, what brain ?
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
 
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 From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: PESO: Traffic, what traffic?
 
 
  For Frank.
  Check out that heavy duty brain bucket.
  Paul
  
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7521717size=lg
 
 
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Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.

2008-07-08 Thread Christine Aguila

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 Cotty wrote:

 Posting will be at your charge except of course if you we can meat
 somewhere.
 That's a rare offer.
 That's OK. Bill doesn't have much at steak.
 So why put him on the rack then?
 I'm trying to out-flank him.

 Look, all this ribbing isn't fair on Thibouille...

 But it's too late for him to save his bacon now.
I think he has a beef with him

Is this another over-done meating at PDML?

It's very rare that these PDML meatings are ever well-done  (Inspired by 
Groucho Marx).
but it's fun to chew the fat over Thigh-bone's Pentax rumor, which has some 
interesting gristle to it.





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Re: PESO: Traffic, what traffic?

2008-07-08 Thread pnstenquist
Thanks Mark. You have a good eye. I would guess those machines are pricey 
compared to most scooters.
Paul
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 Paul Stenquist wrote:
  For Frank.
  Check out that heavy duty brain bucket.
  Paul
  
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7521717size=lg
 
 Great shot!
 
 It's the same model scooter as in my Happy Frog photo:
 http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7d402801.htm
 
 (Also available in my Auto Parts book for a very reasonable price! :-P
 http://www.robertstech.com/autopart.htm)
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: OT - Question to birding people

2008-07-08 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 11:31 AM, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Both plovers and redshanks exhibit this behavour too. It seems to be
 quite common among waders. However, there seems to be no mention of
 this among gulls or jaegers...

I did a Google search for skua feign brooding, and one of the results is:

Breeding — Parasitic Jaeger — Birds of North America Online
Birds also occasionally interrupt injury feigning with false brooding,
in which a bird suddenly sits still, as if incubating or brooding
(Williamson 1949). ...
bna.birds.cornell.edu/bna/species/445/articles/breeding - Similar
pages - Note this

Unfortunately, it requires a paid subscription to see more than that.

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Re: OT - Question to birding people

2008-07-08 Thread David Savage
2008/7/8 AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 4. habituation to human presence.

This is the most likely explanation in my opinion.

Cheers,

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Re: Rumours, rumours...

2008-07-08 Thread P. J. Alling
Aah, just when the rumor mill had ceased to grind, it's restarted.

I know that it won't happen but this is what I'd like to see a K1000D.

1.  A glass pentaprism with a good manual focus screen, (no 
autofocus at all).

 2. A 10-14mp sensor,

 3.) An exceptional metering system, but with the ability to lock 
out all automation, (just allow manual exposure, maybe hyper manual as 
well).

 4.) Good ergonomics, and solid build, much like the original K1000D 
was really a stripped down Spotmatic F with a K mount, or a KM lacking a 
few features.  Though unlike the K1000 I'd want there to be a DOF lever 
somewhere. 

In other words a a true student camera, (most student items are so 
cheaply made and poorly designed, that they actually discourage 
learning).  IYet capable of producing with good lenses, the finest 
quality image the format allows.  At the same time it should force the 
the student photographer to learn something about exposure, and the 
relationship between aperture shutter speed and ISO.. 

No frills at all.  In other words everything tjhat is necessary, nothing 
that isn't.

Alas what I expect.

 1.) A 6mp Sensor.  camera.

  2.) Full exposure automation, possibly only Program mode.

  3.) A mirrorprism with either SDM or screwdriver autofocus, though 
not both, and possibly no provision for manual focus at all.

  4.) A a pitifully small buffer and slow write speed.

  5.) Every bell and whistle that can be crammed into the firmware, 
with fewer external controls.  Menu driven like a PS.

For a K2D, (I expect that they'll use the current naming conventions), I 
have no idea.  The only thing I can see that might be in the immediate 
offing is a higher frame rate and more responsive autofocus, sort of 
like the Nikon D700, but with an APS-C sensor.  I expect that's why 
there's been a recient price drop in the K20D, to have room at the top 
for a $1400.00-1700US, camera with an original introduction price of 
something like $1999.99

Heck maybe it will be called the K20D Super...

Thibouille wrote:
 Please don't tell me you don't care, subject is clear so if you don't
 want to know or discuss anything, don't read !

 * BEGIN RUMOUR NEWS *

 In the current state of things (if that can be said for rumours),
 Pentax is beleived to introduce at least one new camera around
 Photokina, possibly two.
 There're a no details about this/these camera(s) but it should be
 fairly easy to speculate if anyone wants to.

 * if one camera - budget camera (e.g. K1000D) or high end (K1D/K5D)...
 * if two camera, seems clear it would be those two except if Pentax
 feels they need to upgrade K200D or K20D but it seems doubtful to me.

 * END RUMOUR NEWS *

 One usualy good source has confirmed that at least one camera was
 coming, without giving any detail (NDA as usual).

 At least two Pentax distributors have indeed confirmed to a couple
 users that the 60-250 wouldn't be there before Photokina :( :(


 That's it (much isn't it?) you can get back to your usual stuff.

   


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Re: Rumours, rumours...

2008-07-08 Thread P. J. Alling
Oh Hell, I'll do it for ya...

http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare2.html

No.  No need to thank me, after all, what are friends for?

Cotty wrote:
 On 8/7/08, Thibouille, discombobulated, unleashed:

   
 * if one camera - budget camera (e.g. K1000D) or high end (K1D/K5D)...
 

 I won't post the link, just for a change :)

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Re: Environmentally sensitive photo process

2008-07-08 Thread P. J. Alling
There's no pint in asking.  What I do is environmentally friendly, what 
others do is not.  That's the rule.

or the actual answer, not very.

AlunFoto wrote:
 Hmm...
 Contact copies from negatives the size of, like, 1x2 meters.
 So how environmentally friendly is the negative production?

 Jostein


 2008/7/7 Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
 Exposure takes over a week, and print stability isn't all that great,
 but no nasty chemicals to pour down the drain afterwards.

 http://www.creativereview.co.uk/crblog/grass-art/

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Re: PESO - Scooting Along Bloor

2008-07-08 Thread Bruce Dayton
It's a very nice shot but...cutting off the bottom makes it feel like
an almost kind of shot.

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Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 6:02:08 AM, you wrote:

ft If you haven't noticed, I have a weakness for scooters:

ft http://tinyurl.com/68t52g

ft 
http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHNa0E61IzI/CkI/MsROvCSMkUs/s1600-h/july_07_08+007.jpg

ft When I first looked at this on the back of the camera, I was thinking
ft that I should have zoomed out a bit to get the whole scooter, but the
ft more I look at this the more I like it with the tight crop (it's
ft actually shown full frame).  Any thoughts?  Is it too tight?  At least
ft this way it's different from my other scooter grabs.

ft Comments appreciated.

ft cheers,
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Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.

2008-07-08 Thread P. J. Alling
Cotty wrote:
 On 8/7/08, Thibouille, discombobulated, unleashed:

   
 Posting will be at your charge except of course if you we can meat somewhere.
 

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Re: Compressed DNG and Pentax Photo Browser

2008-07-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Jul 8, 2008, at 3:36 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:

 Thibouille wrote:

 The thing is, The Pentax software will only recognize compressed DNG
 compressed by itself and NOT DNG compressed by Adobe :(

 Yes, I've noticed that, and this makes the whole DNG thing far less
 standardized and appealing than it looks (and should!).

It's what should be called a defective implementation of the DNG  
specification by Pentax. They're not the only ones who've produced  
defective implementations with respect to DNG files. It's not the  
specification that's at fault, nor Adobe: it is the software vendors  
who don't seem to understand how to be compliant with a protocol  
specification.

Since I refuse to use PPB/L as it is junk software anyway, the  
question is moot. I capture in PEF format and convert to DNG on the  
fly when importing to Lightroom. That renders the correct results for  
my workflow: compressed RAW files in the camera and properly  
formatted DNG files on the computer. There's nothing missing from the  
DNG files created this way, and what private data that Lightroom/ 
Camera Raw/Bridge might not use is not of any consequence to me.

Godfrey

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Re: Compressed DNG and Pentax Photo Browser

2008-07-08 Thread William Robb

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From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
Subject: Re: Compressed DNG and Pentax Photo Browser



 On Jul 8, 2008, at 3:36 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:

 Thibouille wrote:

 The thing is, The Pentax software will only recognize compressed DNG
 compressed by itself and NOT DNG compressed by Adobe :(

 Yes, I've noticed that, and this makes the whole DNG thing far less
 standardized and appealing than it looks (and should!).

 It's what should be called a defective implementation of the DNG
 specification by Pentax. They're not the only ones who've produced
 defective implementations with respect to DNG files. It's not the
 specification that's at fault, nor Adobe: it is the software vendors
 who don't seem to understand how to be compliant with a protocol
 specification.



I was thinking the same thing. All these camera companies have their own 
variations on raw 
files, be they PEFs or NEFs or whatever. When Adobe released the DNG format, I 
thought the idea 
was that it would be the file format version of film: IE: a cross platform 
format. So what do 
the camera makers do? They bugger up the implementation of it.
It's kinda stupid, since Adobe has already done the legwork on compressed DNG 
files and all the 
camera companies have to do is insert Adobe's compression code into their own 
software (it was 
released as open source, was it not?).

William Robb 


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Re: PESO - Scooting Along Bloor

2008-07-08 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's a very nice shot but...cutting off the bottom makes it feel like
 an almost kind of shot.

Yes, but I'm almost a photographer, so it's quite fitting.

;-)

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Re: PESO - At the Show

2008-07-08 Thread Christine Aguila
Doug:  You made a very beautiful picture here. I love it.  Cheers, Christine


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 for you people fans:

 http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=280

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Re: PESO - At the Show

2008-07-08 Thread Christine Aguila
P.S.  My husband loved it too!  Cheers, Christine


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 for you people fans:

 http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=280

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Re: PESO - Scooting Along Bloor

2008-07-08 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Frank:  For me it's too tight--but it's a good one anyway.  Cheers, 
Christine


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 If you haven't noticed, I have a weakness for scooters:

 http://tinyurl.com/68t52g

 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHNa0E61IzI/CkI/MsROvCSMkUs/s1600-h/july_07_08+007.jpg

 When I first looked at this on the back of the camera, I was thinking
 that I should have zoomed out a bit to get the whole scooter, but the
 more I look at this the more I like it with the tight crop (it's
 actually shown full frame).  Any thoughts?  Is it too tight?  At least
 this way it's different from my other scooter grabs.

 Comments appreciated.

 cheers,
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Re: Something unexpected :D

2008-07-08 Thread Christine Aguila
Sweet one, Timber!  Cheers, Christine


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I was at a zoo-like place with my younger daughter, Édua. She loves horses
(and donkeys too... she just can't different them :D) and I think she
surprised everyone around her with this:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3041/2645706662_f9fc295c12_o.jpg
K20D, DA 12-24 3 @ 24mm, f4, ISO 200, 1/2500

Even the donkey seems to be surprised! :D

Cheers,
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Re: Compressed DNG and Pentax Photo Browser

2008-07-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Jul 8, 2008, at 9:27 AM, William Robb wrote:

 I was thinking the same thing. All these camera companies have  
 their own variations on raw
 files, be they PEFs or NEFs or whatever. When Adobe released the  
 DNG format, I thought the idea
 was that it would be the file format version of film: IE: a cross  
 platform format. So what do
 the camera makers do? They bugger up the implementation of it.
 It's kinda stupid, since Adobe has already done the legwork on  
 compressed DNG files and all the
 camera companies have to do is insert Adobe's compression code into  
 their own software (it was
 released as open source, was it not?).

The Adobe Digital NeGative format specification is not open source:  
it is publicly disclosed, patented specification with a zero-cost  
license fee, in perpetuity, much like the TIFF specification. While a  
subtle distinction, it is important.

Here are the information links:
   http://www.adobe.com/products/dng/
   http://www.adobe.com/designcenter/photoshop/articles/phscs2dngspec/ 
phscs2dngspec.pdf

The DNG compression algorithm is encompassed by the specification,  
but it takes more horsepower to implement than most camera devices  
are designed with. There are, of course, also always issues with  
compression/decompression coding which require a great deal of  
additional testing. For this reason, Adobe recommends device  
manufacturers to output uncompressed DNG files, minimizing processing  
power requirements and the possibility of errors in the compression  
implementation.

Handling compressed DNG on a computer should be no difficulty at all,  
given proper testing. I suspect more that Pentax intentionally does  
not process DNG files that it does not produce to limit their risks  
and testing requirements, and perhaps for other marketing reasons.  
That doesn't make it any less a defective implementation in my view  
either.

Godfrey


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Re: Traffic, what traffic?

2008-07-08 Thread Christine Aguila
Good one, Paul.  He looks a little heavy for that scooter--ya know, I think 
scooters are dangerous:  they sit low to the ground making them hard to see; 
they make very little noise--noise is a good safety feature; they have very 
little speed for emergency situations--speed can be used in emergency 
situations; and sitting on a 2-wheeler as if sitting on a chair somehow 
seems like bad balance to me.  You wouldn't get me on one of those things! 
Anyway, nice picture, Paul.  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: PESO: Traffic, what traffic?


 For Frank.
 Check out that heavy duty brain bucket.
 Paul

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7521717size=lg

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PESO: At the beach

2008-07-08 Thread Tim Øsleby
http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?act=attachtype=postid=240339
Office friendly, dont worry.

Exploring new (for me) ground.

Comments appreciated. I don't know what to think. One part of me says
it's crap, another says it is art.
Most likely it is something  between.

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Re: Vivian in the Clouds

2008-07-08 Thread Christine Aguila
Bob:  That's sweet.  And yes, fill flash worked great.  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: PESO: Vivian in the Clouds



 My daughter-in-law borrowed one of my K10Ds to take this photo of my
 granddaughter. Fill flash worked well for her, eh?

 www.bob.blakely.com/Vivian_ITC.jpg

 Regards,
 Bob...
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 Winston Churchill: Madam, if you were my wife, I should drink it!



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Re: Watching

2008-07-08 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Dave:  I like your picture a lot.  Ya know, lately I've been having an 
urge to shoot film; I even had a dream recently I was shooting film with my 
old MX.  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: PESO: Watching


 G'day Folks.

 Firstly I want to thank all who commented on my Misty Morn PESO.
 You're comments were well received  much appreciated.

 Now here's something I took a few weeks ago at a slide show night held
 at a local gallery (~150KB):

 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3046/2641821115_4d4244aedb_o.jpg

 Pentax LX, FA 31mm f1.8, about 1/2 second @ f1.8, Tri-X 400.

 Any  all comments welcome.

 Cheers,

 Dave

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Re: GESO - 600mm collection

2008-07-08 Thread Christine Aguila
These are lovely, Jostein.  Thanks for posting.  Cheers, Christine


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I've grouped some shots with the FA*600/4 into one gallery.
There are 10 images. 3 of them have been posted to the List before.

The first 2 are from John Mustarde's garden in Paris, Texas.
The third is one I've shown before from Østensjøvannet, and the rest
is from last week-end's foray at Runde.

http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/thumbnails.php?album=8

Jostein


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Re: Another bird picture

2008-07-08 Thread Christine Aguila
William:  The bird is great--the background is a bit busy.  Cheers, 
Christine


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Subject: Another bird picture


 After the levity of the clown birds, I felt we needed something a bit more 
 nailed to the perch,
 so to speak.

 This little guy sat there for long enough to take my camera out, mount it 
 to the tripod, use two
 different camera positions, 30 feet apart, and finally to mount the 
 teleconverter before
 leaving.
 He was also kind enough to give me two different locations, this one being 
 the nicer.

 Anyway enough about me,

 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/new/robin2.html

 K20D, A600mm f/5.6 + A1.4L Teleconverter
 ISO800, f/9, 1/100 second.

 Enjoy

 William Robb


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Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery

2008-07-08 Thread Mark Roberts
They should start charging us (the Gallery participants) a dollar per 
photo for uploads! Maybe five dollars...

No, I'm not serious (though I'd gladly pay it for the 1 or 2 photos per 
month that I submit) but it would sure cut down on people uploading 10 
nearly-identical vacation snapshots. Or flowers. Or shots of their kids.

I do find voting on submitted photos very educational and it definitely 
helps my eye, but the ratio of thumbs up to thumbs down is taking 
a big turn for the worse. I used to average 1 in 5 yes votes. Now I 
think it's below 1 in 10.


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Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.

2008-07-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Thibouille wrote:
 
 Stuff I wanna get rid of. Make me an offer, as I said I don't expect
 much million dollars (hehe) for those but just wouldn't let them go
 for nothing :
 
 - SMC Pentax FA 100/3.5 macro (1:2)

I don't expect it's practical to make you an offer on this, given 
postage costs and the weakness of the dollar, but I *am* looking for one 
of these - even the Vivitar version (or Cosina or Phoenix, etc)

If anyone knows where I might pick up one, new or second hand, I'd 
appreciate a head's up.


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Kennyboy has a hands off review on the new Nikon D700

2008-07-08 Thread P. J. Alling
He's disparaging and supercilious as usual, and once again proves to me 
that he hasn't clue with this conclusion.

Kennyboy?
 The only thing you're getting for $1,200 more than a D300 is much 
 better finder, much better high-ISO performance and a green light to 
 buy even more expensive ultra-ultra wide lenses. For most people, I 
 wouldn't bother,...
/kennyboy

Read all about his opinion at his site, or don't bother,...

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Re: PESO - Scooting Along Bloor

2008-07-08 Thread P. J. Alling
I'm a bit disappointed, it's alright, but you can do better.

frank theriault wrote:
 If you haven't noticed, I have a weakness for scooters:

 http://tinyurl.com/68t52g

 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHNa0E61IzI/CkI/MsROvCSMkUs/s1600-h/july_07_08+007.jpg

 When I first looked at this on the back of the camera, I was thinking
 that I should have zoomed out a bit to get the whole scooter, but the
 more I look at this the more I like it with the tight crop (it's
 actually shown full frame).  Any thoughts?  Is it too tight?  At least
 this way it's different from my other scooter grabs.

 Comments appreciated.

 cheers,
 frank

   


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