RE: PESO: Two re-posts
They did get through. I'm surprised you didn't get any comments. The shot of the tower doesn't do much for me, but I like the shot from the tower - very atmospheric. I don't remember seeing the shot of the couple kissing. It's a nice holiday shot. But what interests me is the riverside. I've never been on the Rhine, as far as I remember, but I like the way it's so open for access, and how nice the old architecture etc. looks. This interests me because I live so close to the Thames, and the area closest to my house is a building site at the moment while they redevelop everything and 'improve' the riverside walk. I don't think it'll be as nice as the one in your picture though. From this: http://www.derelictlondon.com/lovells_wharf.htm To this: http://www.liveatlovells.com/ Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Womer Sent: 08 July 2008 01:37 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Two re-posts Neither of these got any comments, and one of them isn't in the archives, so they may have gotten lost in holiday cyberspace. Love by the Rhine was the more recent, taken at dusk in Dusseldorf. It was an unusual Theriaultian moment for me. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7510816 (K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 560, f/4.5 @ 1/45, RAW via LR). The second is a pair: the Rheinturm (Dusseldorf's proud tower), and the view of the Rhine from the Rheinturm: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7501703 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7501725 (Same body and lens, RAW via LR) Cheers, Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Rumours, rumours...
Please don't tell me you don't care, subject is clear so if you don't want to know or discuss anything, don't read ! * BEGIN RUMOUR NEWS * In the current state of things (if that can be said for rumours), Pentax is beleived to introduce at least one new camera around Photokina, possibly two. There're a no details about this/these camera(s) but it should be fairly easy to speculate if anyone wants to. * if one camera - budget camera (e.g. K1000D) or high end (K1D/K5D)... * if two camera, seems clear it would be those two except if Pentax feels they need to upgrade K200D or K20D but it seems doubtful to me. * END RUMOUR NEWS * One usualy good source has confirmed that at least one camera was coming, without giving any detail (NDA as usual). At least two Pentax distributors have indeed confirmed to a couple users that the 60-250 wouldn't be there before Photokina :( :( That's it (much isn't it?) you can get back to your usual stuff. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rumours, rumours...
On 8/7/08, Thibouille, discombobulated, unleashed: * if one camera - budget camera (e.g. K1000D) or high end (K1D/K5D)... I won't post the link, just for a change :) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Compressed DNG and Pentax Photo Browser
I dunno if anyone noticed but latest version (3.51 I think) of Pentax Photo Broxwser /Laboratory can indeed export to compressed DNG if so you want. I tried a conversion with a K100D Raw file. Compressed DNG : 6.45MB Original PEF : 10.1MB The thing is, The Pentax software will only recognize compressed DNG compressed by itself and NOT DNG compressed by Adobe :( Lightroom 1.4 did import that compressed DNG without any problem, of course. Thought it would be interesting to some... -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rumours, rumours...
What link? :p On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/7/08, Thibouille, discombobulated, unleashed: * if one camera - budget camera (e.g. K1000D) or high end (K1D/K5D)... I won't post the link, just for a change :) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Environmentally sensitive photo process
Hmm... Contact copies from negatives the size of, like, 1x2 meters. So how environmentally friendly is the negative production? Jostein 2008/7/7 Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Exposure takes over a week, and print stability isn't all that great, but no nasty chemicals to pour down the drain afterwards. http://www.creativereview.co.uk/crblog/grass-art/ D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Watching
It does one good to see traditional BW every now and again, to give some benchmark tonalities against which to compare our digital efforts. How was the image digitized? Is this a scan from the film, or from a print? If a print, was it conventional enlargement or Frontier (or similar) printing? IMO the picture is too elongated, which kills its compositional dynamics. I realize it's an uncropped frame, with all the altruistic baggage that attaches, but to my eye the space from a little way below the intersection of the awning with the left border is superfluous. Crop it there, and a tiny bit at the top to compensate, and the composition will jump right off the screen. Nevertheless, I love it. Regards, Anthony Farr -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Savage Sent: Monday, 7 July 2008 11:35 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO: Watching G'day Folks. Firstly I want to thank all who commented on my Misty Morn PESO. You're comments were well received much appreciated. Now here's something I took a few weeks ago at a slide show night held at a local gallery (~150KB): http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3046/2641821115_4d4244aedb_o.jpg Pentax LX, FA 31mm f1.8, about 1/2 second @ f1.8, Tri-X 400. Any all comments welcome. Cheers, Dave -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Compressed DNG and Pentax Photo Browser
Thibouille wrote: The thing is, The Pentax software will only recognize compressed DNG compressed by itself and NOT DNG compressed by Adobe :( Yes, I've noticed that, and this makes the whole DNG thing far less standardized and appealing than it looks (and should!). For that reason, I stick to PEF format, reasonably compact, fully specified (including all the exif data as they are written by the camera, not transcoded by out-of-control software which could lead to unwelcome suprise) and fully supported by Adobe. On a side note: I've noticed that when converting RAW to JPG with ACR on a dedicated PC (either single conversion or batch), the time of shooting is retained and it's shown by Windows Explorer set on Details mode, while if I do batch conversion in background while working on other software, all converted images look like shot at 00.00 time. Anyone else noticed? Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.
I'm willing to donate part of my stuff which isn't used for reasons easy to understand (old/not much interesting) and which would probably not generate any revenu on Ebay anyway. I suppose some beginners to photography might find that interesting, at least for a start. Stuff offered for free: - Ricoh KR10X (or XR10 I think it is the same camera) - non-SMC ! , Pentax-A 28-80 f/3.5-4.5 (one rubber is nicked, otherwise it is good state). - Tamron 28/2.5 with hood but without Adaptall2 adapter. - Tamron 135/2.8 (early adaptall1 but works with adaptall 2) - Tamon adaptall Pentax K adapter (without the stops reminder for in-viewfinder reading) - Tamron 85-210/4.5 macro 1:3 (early adaptall1 but works with adaptall 2) - Chinon 28/2.8 (bad shape but usable) - Chinon 50/1.4 (bad shape but usable) Stuff I wanna get rid of. Make me an offer, as I said I don't expect much million dollars (hehe) for those but just wouldn't let them go for nothing : - Chinon 300/5.6 - Pentax P30t - Pentax Z1 - AF240FT - SMC Pentax-M 50/1.4 (I have another already) - SMC Pentax FA 100/3.5 macro (1:2) - Tamron Adaptal2 SP 70-210/3.5-4 macro (1:2) which I would bundle with a rare adaptal2 P-KA adapter (providing same compatibility as a A-type Pentax lens). Make me an offer I can't refuse ;) Posting will be at your charge except of course if you we can meat somewhere. I'm located in Belgium, Europe (really? ;) I can of course provide more information on any of those objects if needed, provide pictures etc. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Environmentally sensitive photo process
I read it that they project the negative (in 12hour bursts over a week) onto the substrate. How do they stop it from melting?? From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/07/08 Tue AM 09:51:45 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Environmentally sensitive photo process Hmm... Contact copies from negatives the size of, like, 1x2 meters. So how environmentally friendly is the negative production? Jostein 2008/7/7 Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Exposure takes over a week, and print stability isn't all that great, but no nasty chemicals to pour down the drain afterwards. http://www.creativereview.co.uk/crblog/grass-art/ - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rumours, rumours...
Not much after PMA there was a 'rumour' that german Pentax fan forum users met the german Pentax guys to test the K20D and they said there will be two new Pentax cams at Photokina, one with 3 digits and one with 1 digits. So K2D (since K1D existed as a prototype) is very probable and I hope the 3 digit one is the 645D (remember PMA? There was a hint about 645D). I believe the K2D will use the new Full Frame Samsung CMOS and hopefully not targeted to be a competitor to the Pro (Canon EOS 1D MarkIV/Nikon D3) level but the EOS 5D/D700. K1000D low budget cam? I don't really think that would be necessary. The K200D is very well placed in the budget category (it's cheap enough but with only a few compromises need to made). A few bucks cheaper cam would make no sense at all to me (like Canon EOS 1000D...) since so far Pentax seemed to me to target quality over marketing features. An entry-level MF camera would be a big hit and nowadays the technology is ready for a cheaper production. If Pentax could manage to sell it around a bit higher than the EOS 1Ds MarkIV (approx 10K$) then it could easily take place next to the Pro Level DSLRs of Canon and Nikon. Lens are already available for the 645 system... So let's hope :D Also at http://www.pentaximaging.com/purchase/find_a_store you can still see the product category: digital medium format. Cheers, .t Please don't tell me you don't care, subject is clear so if you don't want to know or discuss anything, don't read ! * BEGIN RUMOUR NEWS * In the current state of things (if that can be said for rumours), Pentax is beleived to introduce at least one new camera around Photokina, possibly two. There're a no details about this/these camera(s) but it should be fairly easy to speculate if anyone wants to. * if one camera - budget camera (e.g. K1000D) or high end (K1D/K5D)... * if two camera, seems clear it would be those two except if Pentax feels they need to upgrade K200D or K20D but it seems doubtful to me. * END RUMOUR NEWS * One usualy good source has confirmed that at least one camera was coming, without giving any detail (NDA as usual). At least two Pentax distributors have indeed confirmed to a couple users that the 60-250 wouldn't be there before Photokina :( :( That's it (much isn't it?) you can get back to your usual stuff. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stonehenge
Chiming in late on this one... A very nice set, Bob. First thought that struck me was the weather... looking more like rain-stice than sol-stice (doohh). But I guess that's Britain for you... :-) The magnum link doesn't yield any pics anymore, but I can sort of imagine how the celebrations get... hmmm... hooliganised(?) over the years. Jostein 2008/6/22 Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Here are my shots from Stonehenge over the solstice: http://www.web-options.com/SH2008/ As I said when I posted the Filly Loo shots, I made a number of technical mistakes, but thanks to Dr. Lightroom's Rescue Remedy I have managed to recover some of them. In any case, I now know a lot more about 2nd-curtain slow-sync flash than I did a couple of days ago. I'll go again next year, and hope to get it right. Comments welcome, of course. It was an extremely tiring time. I drove to Ashmore from London, arriving at about 6pm. Things started to kick off at 7pm and went on until about 10.30. From there I drove to Stonehenge, arriving at about 11.30pm. I left at about 6am, having been on my feet carrying a heavy camera bag with food and drink the whole time. It took a few hours to get back to London, which I really shouldn't have driven - I nearly nodded off at the wheel several times. When I got home I felt the urge for a fry-up so I went out to a café, ordered the full monty, and fell asleep at the table before I finished it! Anyway, it's interesting to compare this year's Stonehenge with the celebrations in gentler times, as shown on the Magnum site: http://tinyurl.com/2cn64b http://www.magnumphotos.com/Archive/C.aspx?VP=XSpecific_MAG.Search01_V Page Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - At the Show
Doug Brewer wrote: for you people fans: http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=280 thank you Fernando, Paul and Frank. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stonehenge
From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/07/08 Tue AM 11:58:21 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Stonehenge Chiming in late on this one... A very nice set, Bob. First thought that struck me was the weather... looking more like rain-stice than sol-stice (doohh). But I guess that's Britain for you... :-) The magnum link doesn't yield any pics anymore, but I can sort of imagine how the celebrations get... hmmm... hooliganised(?) over the years. Jostein If you put solstice into the search engine there, you get some pictures of Druids by George Rodger from 1960. 2008/6/22 Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Here are my shots from Stonehenge over the solstice: http://www.web-options.com/SH2008/ As I said when I posted the Filly Loo shots, I made a number of technical mistakes, but thanks to Dr. Lightroom's Rescue Remedy I have managed to recover some of them. In any case, I now know a lot more about 2nd-curtain slow-sync flash than I did a couple of days ago. I'll go again next year, and hope to get it right. Comments welcome, of course. It was an extremely tiring time. I drove to Ashmore from London, arriving at about 6pm. Things started to kick off at 7pm and went on until about 10.30. From there I drove to Stonehenge, arriving at about 11.30pm. I left at about 6am, having been on my feet carrying a heavy camera bag with food and drink the whole time. It took a few hours to get back to London, which I really shouldn't have driven - I nearly nodded off at the wheel several times. When I got home I felt the urge for a fry-up so I went out to a café, ordered the full monty, and fell asleep at the table before I finished it! Anyway, it's interesting to compare this year's Stonehenge with the celebrations in gentler times, as shown on the Magnum site: http://tinyurl.com/2cn64b http://www.magnumphotos.com/Archive/C.aspx?VP=XSpecific_MAG.Search01_V Page Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Environmentally sensitive photo process
- Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: Environmentally sensitive photo process I read it that they project the negative (in 12hour bursts over a week) onto the substrate. How do they stop it from melting?? It's just light. My lawn gets well over 12 hours of light per day for several months of the year. Do you guys not get sunlight in Scotland? No wonder you are such a dour lot. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Watching
Thanks Paul. Cheers, Dave 2008/7/7 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Held my interest. A unique perspective. Paul From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3046/2641821115_4d4244aedb_o.jpg Pentax LX, FA 31mm f1.8, about 1/2 second @ f1.8, Tri-X 400. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Ferrari!
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:25 PM, Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's something about a Ferrari... Yeah, they're supposed to be red ! Gonna come down shoot the cruise? ;+] I would love to. Transportation and border issues would, I'm afraid, hamper any plans. I lost my passport a while back, and I've never gotten around to replacing it. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Watching
2008/7/8 Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED]: David Savage wrote: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3046/2641821115_4d4244aedb_o.jpg Pentax LX, FA 31mm f1.8, about 1/2 second @ f1.8, Tri-X 400. Is that Gordon Ramsay? LOL. Nah, he's a local photographer I know. Good to see the LX still out and about. It's the second roll of film I've put through this body since getting it. I was swapping between the the K20D LX I have to say I miss big bright viewfinders :-) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Watching
2008/7/8 frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:35 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3046/2641821115_4d4244aedb_o.jpg Pentax LX, FA 31mm f1.8, about 1/2 second @ f1.8, Tri-X 400. Wow, shot with film! I've reclaimed a small portion of my lost photographic soul ;-) Terrific photo! Thanks mate. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Watching
2008/7/8 Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It does one good to see traditional BW every now and again, to give some benchmark tonalities against which to compare our digital efforts. I thought the same thing too. How was the image digitized? Is this a scan from the film, or from a print? If a print, was it conventional enlargement or Frontier (or similar) printing? This was scanned from the negative with a Epson Perfection 3200 flatbed. IMO the picture is too elongated, which kills its compositional dynamics. I realize it's an uncropped frame, with all the altruistic baggage that attaches, but to my eye the space from a little way below the intersection of the awning with the left border is superfluous. Crop it there, and a tiny bit at the top to compensate, and the composition will jump right off the screen. Since I'm going all purist (ahem...cough-bullshit*-cough), no cropping.after the fact :-) I do see where you are coming from though. Nevertheless, I love it. Thanks Anthony. Cheers, Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Savage http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3046/2641821115_4d4244aedb_o.jpg Pentax LX, FA 31mm f1.8, about 1/2 second @ f1.8, Tri-X 400. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Watching
2008/7/7 William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Original Message - From: David Savage http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3046/2641821115_4d4244aedb_o.jpg Pentax LX, FA 31mm f1.8, about 1/2 second @ f1.8, Tri-X 400. Film? How quaint. It's been sooo long since I had developed a roll, I thought I may have forgotten. I hadn't. Nice bokeh. It's is a handy FL on film. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rumours, rumours...
Thibouille wrote: * if one camera - budget camera (e.g. K1000D) or high end (K1D/K5D)... * if two camera, seems clear it would be those two except if Pentax feels they need to upgrade K200D or K20D but it seems doubtful to me. Not much news there. They've said the second camera was coming and anyone who couldn't have predicted the first (budget) camera just hasn't been paying attention. BTW: Though there's much clamor for a full-frame camera (still a couple of years away, IMO), my experience with the K20D has been so good I think its sensor and electronics *as is* could be the basis for a serious pro camera - it's that good. Just drop the K20D sensor/electronics into a heavy duty body, give it an upgraded shutter/mirror box assembly (shorter mirror black-out, faster flash sync, higher frame rate, etc.) and you'd have a real contender, whether it's called a K1D or not. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rumours, rumours...
Over here, the K200D is massively overpriced. It's not a budget camera at all. I can get a Nikon D40 for under $450CDN, or a Sony A200 (which matches or exceeds the K200D in all regards except weather sealing) for $500 or less, both of those with their respective kit lenses but a K200D just dropped to $700, still $50 more than the A200 _Launched_ at. Needless to say, nobody's buying K200D's in Canada. It's been a massive failure. And US pricing is WORSE for Pentax (K200D is $800 with $100 mail in rebate, A200 is $500). Pentax badly needs a competitive budget camera, every other maker has a better option right now (either less money or more features performance AND less money). -Adam On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not much after PMA there was a 'rumour' that german Pentax fan forum users met the german Pentax guys to test the K20D and they said there will be two new Pentax cams at Photokina, one with 3 digits and one with 1 digits. So K2D (since K1D existed as a prototype) is very probable and I hope the 3 digit one is the 645D (remember PMA? There was a hint about 645D). I believe the K2D will use the new Full Frame Samsung CMOS and hopefully not targeted to be a competitor to the Pro (Canon EOS 1D MarkIV/Nikon D3) level but the EOS 5D/D700. K1000D low budget cam? I don't really think that would be necessary. The K200D is very well placed in the budget category (it's cheap enough but with only a few compromises need to made). A few bucks cheaper cam would make no sense at all to me (like Canon EOS 1000D...) since so far Pentax seemed to me to target quality over marketing features. An entry-level MF camera would be a big hit and nowadays the technology is ready for a cheaper production. If Pentax could manage to sell it around a bit higher than the EOS 1Ds MarkIV (approx 10K$) then it could easily take place next to the Pro Level DSLRs of Canon and Nikon. Lens are already available for the 645 system... So let's hope :D Also at http://www.pentaximaging.com/purchase/find_a_store you can still see the product category: digital medium format. Cheers, .t Please don't tell me you don't care, subject is clear so if you don't want to know or discuss anything, don't read ! * BEGIN RUMOUR NEWS * In the current state of things (if that can be said for rumours), Pentax is beleived to introduce at least one new camera around Photokina, possibly two. There're a no details about this/these camera(s) but it should be fairly easy to speculate if anyone wants to. * if one camera - budget camera (e.g. K1000D) or high end (K1D/K5D)... * if two camera, seems clear it would be those two except if Pentax feels they need to upgrade K200D or K20D but it seems doubtful to me. * END RUMOUR NEWS * One usualy good source has confirmed that at least one camera was coming, without giving any detail (NDA as usual). At least two Pentax distributors have indeed confirmed to a couple users that the 60-250 wouldn't be there before Photokina :( :( That's it (much isn't it?) you can get back to your usual stuff. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Scooting Along Bloor
If you haven't noticed, I have a weakness for scooters: http://tinyurl.com/68t52g http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHNa0E61IzI/CkI/MsROvCSMkUs/s1600-h/july_07_08+007.jpg When I first looked at this on the back of the camera, I was thinking that I should have zoomed out a bit to get the whole scooter, but the more I look at this the more I like it with the tight crop (it's actually shown full frame). Any thoughts? Is it too tight? At least this way it's different from my other scooter grabs. Comments appreciated. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Scooting Along Bloor
May be a tad too tight to my taste... On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 4:02 PM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you haven't noticed, I have a weakness for scooters: http://tinyurl.com/68t52g http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHNa0E61IzI/CkI/MsROvCSMkUs/s1600-h/july_07_08+007.jpg When I first looked at this on the back of the camera, I was thinking that I should have zoomed out a bit to get the whole scooter, but the more I look at this the more I like it with the tight crop (it's actually shown full frame). Any thoughts? Is it too tight? At least this way it's different from my other scooter grabs. Comments appreciated. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rumours, rumours...
Adam Maas wrote: Pentax badly needs a competitive budget camera, every other maker has a better option right now (either less money or more features performance AND less money). What *someone* needs to make is a real student camera, along the lines of the K1000: Manual everything (*Especially* ISO selection!) The problem is that so many features are implemented in software now that it's difficult for anyone to justify removing the extra automation. I wouldn't be surprised if economies of scale make producing a manual focus body more expensive than an autofocus one, just because the MF would sell in such small numbers, though I suppose you could cripple the AF in the firmware. The only hope is that there are enough high schools and colleges that would buy such a camera to make it a viable business proposition. Not very likely, IMO, but we can hope ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Finch Tryst
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:04 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just veg'n on the patio when this pair began to carry on. Had the FA 80~320 nearby. Gave it a seedy unseemly look for naughty impact. Notice they, also, appear to be playing footsie. shocking!! Jack(voyeur) http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=316 Comments always welcome. I really like the rendering of this one, along with the composition. Not your usual bird pic! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Watching
-Original Message- From: David Savage This was scanned from the negative with a Epson Perfection 3200 flatbed. Excellent scan. It looks very like the tonal rendering of Agfa Multicontrast, my preferred normal quality paper in its day. Regards, Anthony Farr. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rumours, rumours...
Pentax badly needs a competitive budget camera, every other maker has a better option right now (either less money or more features performance AND less money). What I would like to see is a budget camera with Live View :D So it would make a great UV/IR Cam :P The Pentax K20D is just a bit pricey for modding... .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Vivian in the Clouds
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My daughter-in-law borrowed one of my K10Ds to take this photo of my granddaughter. Fill flash worked well for her, eh? www.bob.blakely.com/Vivian_ITC.jpg I love it. Great expression on Viv's face, and ~very~ interesting composition! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rumours, rumours...
I indeed think that LiveView is mandatory or about on a low-end camera, just because guys from PS will be happy. More importantly, it needs cheap price and very good marketing exposure. Nikon is selling shedloads of D40/D40X/D60 without any liveview but they have a damn good marketing presence (not even talking about Canon). Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Scooting Along Bloor
Nice pan, fun shot. If she knew you were firing, she would have sucked in that tummy:-). Paul On Jul 8, 2008, at 9:02 AM, frank theriault wrote: If you haven't noticed, I have a weakness for scooters: http://tinyurl.com/68t52g http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHNa0E61IzI/CkI/ MsROvCSMkUs/s1600-h/july_07_08+007.jpg When I first looked at this on the back of the camera, I was thinking that I should have zoomed out a bit to get the whole scooter, but the more I look at this the more I like it with the tight crop (it's actually shown full frame). Any thoughts? Is it too tight? At least this way it's different from my other scooter grabs. Comments appreciated. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Scooting Along Bloor
I'd prefer not so tight - a little further out so you can see the blur of the spinning wheels along w/the pan would make it better IMO. -p frank theriault wrote: If you haven't noticed, I have a weakness for scooters: http://tinyurl.com/68t52g http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHNa0E61IzI/CkI/MsROvCSMkUs/s1600-h/july_07_08+007.jpg When I first looked at this on the back of the camera, I was thinking that I should have zoomed out a bit to get the whole scooter, but the more I look at this the more I like it with the tight crop (it's actually shown full frame). Any thoughts? Is it too tight? At least this way it's different from my other scooter grabs. Comments appreciated. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Traffic, what traffic?
For Frank. Check out that heavy duty brain bucket. Paul http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7521717size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rumours, rumours...
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax badly needs a competitive budget camera, every other maker has a better option right now (either less money or more features performance AND less money). What I would like to see is a budget camera with Live View :D So it would make a great UV/IR Cam :P The Pentax K20D is just a bit pricey for modding... .t Oly E-420 E-520, Canon Rebel XS, Sony A300. Oly Canon have sensor-based live view, Sony has second-sensor live view and a flip-up LCD. All cheaper than the K200D. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.
On 8/7/08, Thibouille, discombobulated, unleashed: Posting will be at your charge except of course if you we can meat somewhere. That's a rare offer. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - Question to birding people
Gang, Tim and I are puzzled by a behavioural trait in the Great Skua at Runde, which we can't find any good explanation for on the web. The skua is a rather aggressive bird, known to dive-bomb people coming too close to the nest. However, at Runde the birds would also frequently sit down on the path, and keep sitting until people come quite close; up to a couple of meters. The most likely candidate explanations, imo, are: 1. This is a beginning predator diversion behaviour, that the bird will fly up, move away from the nest and sit down again to lure people away from the nest. 2. This is simple territory marking; here i reign, don't step closer. 3. Predator inspection behaviour. 4. habituation to human presence. Would appreciate all kinds of ideas and pointers, since the implications for disturbing the nests are quite different, depending on the reason for the behaviour. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Finch Tryst
Thanks, Frank! A complete departure for me. Glad you approve of the heavy crop. Small birds, obviously, and hand held at about 40 ft away. A stern test for the FA 80-~320(at 320mm), but not a factor with this rendering. Jack --- On Tue, 7/8/08, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO: Finch Tryst To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 6:12 AM On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:04 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just veg'n on the patio when this pair began to carry on. Had the FA 80~320 nearby. Gave it a seedy unseemly look for naughty impact. Notice they, also, appear to be playing footsie. shocking!! Jack(voyeur) http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=316 Comments always welcome. I really like the rendering of this one, along with the composition. Not your usual bird pic! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Question to birding people
On 8/7/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed: The skua is a rather aggressive bird, known to dive-bomb people coming too close to the nest. However, at Runde the birds would also frequently sit down on the path, and keep sitting until people come quite close; up to a couple of meters. The most likely candidate explanations, imo, are: 1. This is a beginning predator diversion behaviour, that the bird will fly up, move away from the nest and sit down again to lure people away from the nest. 2. This is simple territory marking; here i reign, don't step closer. 3. Predator inspection behaviour. 4. habituation to human presence. 5. They were tired after rather a long squawk. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Traffic, what traffic?
I'd suggest a WIDE LOAD sign on his back. Approaching traffic adds greatly. Good catch, Paul! Jack --- On Tue, 7/8/08, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Traffic, what traffic? To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 6:45 AM For Frank. Check out that heavy duty brain bucket. Paul http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7521717size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rumours, rumours...
On 8/7/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: Not much after PMA there was a 'rumour' that german Pentax fan forum users met the german Pentax guys to test the K20D and they said there will be two new Pentax cams at Photokina, one with 3 digits and one with 1 digits. So K2D (since K1D existed as a prototype) is very probable and I hope the 3 digit one is the 645D (remember PMA? There was a hint about 645D). I believe the K2D will use the new Full Frame Samsung CMOS and hopefully not targeted to be a competitor to the Pro (Canon EOS 1D MarkIV/Nikon D3) level but the EOS 5D/D700. Oh Timber mate, can you share that stuff you're smoking pal!?! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.
Cotty wrote: On 8/7/08, Thibouille, discombobulated, unleashed: Posting will be at your charge except of course if you we can meat somewhere. That's a rare offer. That's OK. Bill doesn't have much at steak. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Question to birding people
On 8/7/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed: 3. Predator inspection behaviour. Hang on a minute, I've been thinking about this one :-/ Are you serious? Didn't the Dodo used to do this? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.
Gez and I attempted to have full concentration NOT to make this very mistake =D On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/7/08, Thibouille, discombobulated, unleashed: Posting will be at your charge except of course if you we can meat somewhere. That's a rare offer. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.
Posting will be at your charge except of course if you we can meat somewhere. That's a rare offer. That's OK. Bill doesn't have much at steak. So why put him on the rack then? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Question to birding people
The Dodo's problem was that it didn't understand the concept of a predator. Many animals do predator inspection, ranging at least from sticklebacks to zebras. It usually looks like showing off to the predator. Kinda like a hey you, catch me if you can game. :-) In the skua case I don't think it's likely, but I wanted the suggestion on the table anyway. Jostein 2008/7/8 Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 8/7/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed: 3. Predator inspection behaviour. Hang on a minute, I've been thinking about this one :-/ Are you serious? Didn't the Dodo used to do this? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Question to birding people
On 8/7/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed: In the skua case I don't think it's likely, but I wanted the suggestion on the table anyway. So does the predator ;) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Traffic, what traffic?
Thanks Jack. -- Original message -- From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd suggest a WIDE LOAD sign on his back. Approaching traffic adds greatly. Good catch, Paul! Jack --- On Tue, 7/8/08, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Traffic, what traffic? To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 6:45 AM For Frank. Check out that heavy duty brain bucket. Paul http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7521717size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Question to birding people
Yes, done to a tern. Jack --- On Tue, 7/8/08, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT - Question to birding people To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 7:30 AM On 8/7/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed: In the skua case I don't think it's likely, but I wanted the suggestion on the table anyway. So does the predator ;) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Scooting Along Bloor
Frank, As shot, I'd say it's more about the woman than the scooter. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 8:02 AM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you haven't noticed, I have a weakness for scooters: http://tinyurl.com/68t52g http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHNa0E61IzI/CkI/MsROvCSMkUs/s1600-h/july_07_08+007.jpg When I first looked at this on the back of the camera, I was thinking that I should have zoomed out a bit to get the whole scooter, but the more I look at this the more I like it with the tight crop (it's actually shown full frame). Any thoughts? Is it too tight? At least this way it's different from my other scooter grabs. Comments appreciated. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.
Cotty wrote: Posting will be at your charge except of course if you we can meat somewhere. That's a rare offer. That's OK. Bill doesn't have much at steak. So why put him on the rack then? I'm trying to out-flank him. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Traffic, what traffic?
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For Frank. Check out that heavy duty brain bucket. Paul http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7521717size=lg Har! I wonder if that's what Roger Clemens looks like now that he's - er, um - not working out any more... ;-) You're right, great helmet! Fun shot, good grab. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Traffic, what traffic?
Paul Stenquist wrote: For Frank. Check out that heavy duty brain bucket. Paul http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7521717size=lg Great shot! It's the same model scooter as in my Happy Frog photo: http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7d402801.htm (Also available in my Auto Parts book for a very reasonable price! :-P http://www.robertstech.com/autopart.htm) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.
Posting will be at your charge except of course if you we can meat somewhere. That's a rare offer. That's OK. Bill doesn't have much at steak. So why put him on the rack then? I'm trying to out-flank him. Look, all this ribbing isn't fair on Thibouille... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - 600mm collection
Looks like you've got the hang of the 600. Nice images all, especially the bird shots. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: GESO - 600mm collection I've grouped some shots with the FA*600/4 into one gallery. There are 10 images. 3 of them have been posted to the List before. The first 2 are from John Mustarde's garden in Paris, Texas. The third is one I've shown before from Østensjøvannet, and the rest is from last week-end's foray at Runde. http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/thumbnails.php?album=8 Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.
I think he has a beef with him On 7/8/08, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Posting will be at your charge except of course if you we can meat somewhere. That's a rare offer. That's OK. Bill doesn't have much at steak. So why put him on the rack then? I'm trying to out-flank him. Look, all this ribbing isn't fair on Thibouille... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.
Cotty wrote: Posting will be at your charge except of course if you we can meat somewhere. That's a rare offer. That's OK. Bill doesn't have much at steak. So why put him on the rack then? I'm trying to out-flank him. Look, all this ribbing isn't fair on Thibouille... But it's too late for him to save his bacon now. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Scooting Along Bloor
She must be serious, she's wearing driving gloves ! Nice capture, but I'd like to see more of the scooter, maybe to where the tires touch the street. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Scooting Along Bloor If you haven't noticed, I have a weakness for scooters: http://tinyurl.com/68t52g http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHNa0E61IzI/CkI/MsROvCSMkUs/s1600-h/july_07_08+007.jpg When I first looked at this on the back of the camera, I was thinking that I should have zoomed out a bit to get the whole scooter, but the more I look at this the more I like it with the tight crop (it's actually shown full frame). Any thoughts? Is it too tight? At least this way it's different from my other scooter grabs. Comments appreciated. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff,some others I wanna get out cheaply etc. On 8/7/08, Thibouille, discombobulated, unleashed: Posting will be at your charge except of course if you we can meat somewhere. That's a rare offer. A typical slice of life here @ PDML. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Underground Berlin
I like it. The contrast between the natural artificial light is very neat. Cheers, Dave 2008/7/7 Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: An UBahn station in Berlin. The different qualities of light intrigued me. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7512517 K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 1600, f/6.7 @ 1/10, RAW via LR. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Traffic, what traffic?
Nice one Paul, but I'd re-title it brain, what brain ? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Traffic, what traffic? For Frank. Check out that heavy duty brain bucket. Paul http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7521717size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Question to birding people
Looking for food ? That is are the visitors feeding them ? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT - Question to birding people Gang, Tim and I are puzzled by a behavioural trait in the Great Skua at Runde, which we can't find any good explanation for on the web. The skua is a rather aggressive bird, known to dive-bomb people coming too close to the nest. However, at Runde the birds would also frequently sit down on the path, and keep sitting until people come quite close; up to a couple of meters. The most likely candidate explanations, imo, are: 1. This is a beginning predator diversion behaviour, that the bird will fly up, move away from the nest and sit down again to lure people away from the nest. 2. This is simple territory marking; here i reign, don't step closer. 3. Predator inspection behaviour. 4. habituation to human presence. Would appreciate all kinds of ideas and pointers, since the implications for disturbing the nests are quite different, depending on the reason for the behaviour. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Two re-posts
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neither of these got any comments, and one of them isn't in the archives, so they may have gotten lost in holiday cyberspace. Love by the Rhine was the more recent, taken at dusk in Dusseldorf. It was an unusual Theriaultian moment for me. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7510816 (K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 560, f/4.5 @ 1/45, RAW via LR). The second is a pair: the Rheinturm (Dusseldorf's proud tower), and the view of the Rhine from the Rheinturm: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7501703 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7501725 (Same body and lens, RAW via LR) I didn't see any of these, but I've been falling behind on my PESOs and PAWs lately. The couple kissing is nice - a bit more tilt and blur, a bit more monochrome and you'll get the hang of it! ;-) Seriously, it's a lovely shot, but as someone else mentioned, it seems a bit dark on my monitor. Of the other two, the shot of the tower is okay, but not spectacular - hard to take a shot of one of those (Toronto has it's CN Tower, which I've shot many times, and they're all ho-hum) and make it look different. The shot ~from~ the tower of the Rhine is truly spectacular! The gorgeous sky only adds to the beautiful composition. Wonderful shot! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.
Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty wrote: Posting will be at your charge except of course if you we can meat somewhere. That's a rare offer. That's OK. Bill doesn't have much at steak. So why put him on the rack then? I'm trying to out-flank him. Look, all this ribbing isn't fair on Thibouille... Is this another over-done meating at PDML? John Graves WA1JG -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.
2008/7/8 Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Gez and I attempted to have full concentration NOT to make this very mistake =D Don't sweat it. I'm pretty sure that most here can't write Belgian, anywhere near as good as you can English. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Question to birding people
2008/7/8 Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Looking for food ? That is are the visitors feeding them ? The great skuas at Runde are mostly kleptoparasites on the gannets. They don't scoff at a fresh seal carcass either. The species as a whole have a diet ranging from fish to other birds or small mammals (lemmings and mice), and carrion, but the local populations tend to be specialised in various ways. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Underground Berlin
Thanks, Dave. I also like the K10D's image quality at ISO 1600, when one is careful not to under-expose. Rick --- On Tue, 7/8/08, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO: Underground Berlin To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 11:05 AM I like it. The contrast between the natural artificial light is very neat. Cheers, Dave 2008/7/7 Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: An UBahn station in Berlin. The different qualities of light intrigued me. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7512517 K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 1600, f/6.7 @ 1/10, RAW via LR. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Question to birding people
Posible but unlikely. I can't imagine people carrying raw fish or left overs of fish into the mountain plateu to feed them. I haven't observed people with dead gulls sticking up from their chest pocket either ;-) This said, It is posible for them to change their diet. But we talked to several other birders, and none have mentioned something about feeding the skua. 2008/7/8 Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Looking for food ? That is are the visitors feeding them ? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT - Question to birding people Gang, Tim and I are puzzled by a behavioural trait in the Great Skua at Runde, which we can't find any good explanation for on the web. The skua is a rather aggressive bird, known to dive-bomb people coming too close to the nest. However, at Runde the birds would also frequently sit down on the path, and keep sitting until people come quite close; up to a couple of meters. The most likely candidate explanations, imo, are: 1. This is a beginning predator diversion behaviour, that the bird will fly up, move away from the nest and sit down again to lure people away from the nest. 2. This is simple territory marking; here i reign, don't step closer. 3. Predator inspection behaviour. 4. habituation to human presence. Would appreciate all kinds of ideas and pointers, since the implications for disturbing the nests are quite different, depending on the reason for the behaviour. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- MaritimTim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Question to birding people
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 10:00 AM, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The most likely candidate explanations, imo, are: 1. This is a beginning predator diversion behaviour, that the bird will fly up, move away from the nest and sit down again to lure people away from the nest. Killdeer are famous for feigning a broken wing as a distraction display, but I also frequently see them feigning nesting--they'll squat down on a patch of ground as if brooding. They hold the position until you get close, then fly off. The intent, presumably, is to get predators to waste time looking for nests that don't exist. It seems plausible to me that the skuas are doing the same thing. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.
Dave, be assured that I smiled reading this thread. I don't care at all, it's PDML ;) That said, I'm afraid, some will not even look at the original topic ... -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Question to birding people
Both plovers and redshanks exhibit this behavour too. It seems to be quite common among waders. However, there seems to be no mention of this among gulls or jaegers... Jostein 2008/7/8 Matthew Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 10:00 AM, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The most likely candidate explanations, imo, are: 1. This is a beginning predator diversion behaviour, that the bird will fly up, move away from the nest and sit down again to lure people away from the nest. Killdeer are famous for feigning a broken wing as a distraction display, but I also frequently see them feigning nesting--they'll squat down on a patch of ground as if brooding. They hold the position until you get close, then fly off. The intent, presumably, is to get predators to waste time looking for nests that don't exist. It seems plausible to me that the skuas are doing the same thing. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.
2008/7/8 Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't care at all, it's PDML ;) HAR! Mark! That said, I'm afraid, some will not even look at the original topic ... It does get that way. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Traffic, what traffic?
Thanks Ken. Yeah, the scooter crowd seems oblivious to the dangers of the street. Paul -- Original message -- From: Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nice one Paul, but I'd re-title it brain, what brain ? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Traffic, what traffic? For Frank. Check out that heavy duty brain bucket. Paul http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7521717size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:02 AM Subject: Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff,some others I wanna get out cheaply etc. Cotty wrote: Posting will be at your charge except of course if you we can meat somewhere. That's a rare offer. That's OK. Bill doesn't have much at steak. So why put him on the rack then? I'm trying to out-flank him. Look, all this ribbing isn't fair on Thibouille... But it's too late for him to save his bacon now. I think he has a beef with him Is this another over-done meating at PDML? It's very rare that these PDML meatings are ever well-done (Inspired by Groucho Marx). but it's fun to chew the fat over Thigh-bone's Pentax rumor, which has some interesting gristle to it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Traffic, what traffic?
Thanks Mark. You have a good eye. I would guess those machines are pricey compared to most scooters. Paul -- Original message -- From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul Stenquist wrote: For Frank. Check out that heavy duty brain bucket. Paul http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7521717size=lg Great shot! It's the same model scooter as in my Happy Frog photo: http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7d402801.htm (Also available in my Auto Parts book for a very reasonable price! :-P http://www.robertstech.com/autopart.htm) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Question to birding people
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 11:31 AM, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both plovers and redshanks exhibit this behavour too. It seems to be quite common among waders. However, there seems to be no mention of this among gulls or jaegers... I did a Google search for skua feign brooding, and one of the results is: Breeding — Parasitic Jaeger — Birds of North America Online Birds also occasionally interrupt injury feigning with false brooding, in which a bird suddenly sits still, as if incubating or brooding (Williamson 1949). ... bna.birds.cornell.edu/bna/species/445/articles/breeding - Similar pages - Note this Unfortunately, it requires a paid subscription to see more than that. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Question to birding people
2008/7/8 AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 4. habituation to human presence. This is the most likely explanation in my opinion. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rumours, rumours...
Aah, just when the rumor mill had ceased to grind, it's restarted. I know that it won't happen but this is what I'd like to see a K1000D. 1. A glass pentaprism with a good manual focus screen, (no autofocus at all). 2. A 10-14mp sensor, 3.) An exceptional metering system, but with the ability to lock out all automation, (just allow manual exposure, maybe hyper manual as well). 4.) Good ergonomics, and solid build, much like the original K1000D was really a stripped down Spotmatic F with a K mount, or a KM lacking a few features. Though unlike the K1000 I'd want there to be a DOF lever somewhere. In other words a a true student camera, (most student items are so cheaply made and poorly designed, that they actually discourage learning). IYet capable of producing with good lenses, the finest quality image the format allows. At the same time it should force the the student photographer to learn something about exposure, and the relationship between aperture shutter speed and ISO.. No frills at all. In other words everything tjhat is necessary, nothing that isn't. Alas what I expect. 1.) A 6mp Sensor. camera. 2.) Full exposure automation, possibly only Program mode. 3.) A mirrorprism with either SDM or screwdriver autofocus, though not both, and possibly no provision for manual focus at all. 4.) A a pitifully small buffer and slow write speed. 5.) Every bell and whistle that can be crammed into the firmware, with fewer external controls. Menu driven like a PS. For a K2D, (I expect that they'll use the current naming conventions), I have no idea. The only thing I can see that might be in the immediate offing is a higher frame rate and more responsive autofocus, sort of like the Nikon D700, but with an APS-C sensor. I expect that's why there's been a recient price drop in the K20D, to have room at the top for a $1400.00-1700US, camera with an original introduction price of something like $1999.99 Heck maybe it will be called the K20D Super... Thibouille wrote: Please don't tell me you don't care, subject is clear so if you don't want to know or discuss anything, don't read ! * BEGIN RUMOUR NEWS * In the current state of things (if that can be said for rumours), Pentax is beleived to introduce at least one new camera around Photokina, possibly two. There're a no details about this/these camera(s) but it should be fairly easy to speculate if anyone wants to. * if one camera - budget camera (e.g. K1000D) or high end (K1D/K5D)... * if two camera, seems clear it would be those two except if Pentax feels they need to upgrade K200D or K20D but it seems doubtful to me. * END RUMOUR NEWS * One usualy good source has confirmed that at least one camera was coming, without giving any detail (NDA as usual). At least two Pentax distributors have indeed confirmed to a couple users that the 60-250 wouldn't be there before Photokina :( :( That's it (much isn't it?) you can get back to your usual stuff. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rumours, rumours...
Oh Hell, I'll do it for ya... http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare2.html No. No need to thank me, after all, what are friends for? Cotty wrote: On 8/7/08, Thibouille, discombobulated, unleashed: * if one camera - budget camera (e.g. K1000D) or high end (K1D/K5D)... I won't post the link, just for a change :) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Environmentally sensitive photo process
There's no pint in asking. What I do is environmentally friendly, what others do is not. That's the rule. or the actual answer, not very. AlunFoto wrote: Hmm... Contact copies from negatives the size of, like, 1x2 meters. So how environmentally friendly is the negative production? Jostein 2008/7/7 Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Exposure takes over a week, and print stability isn't all that great, but no nasty chemicals to pour down the drain afterwards. http://www.creativereview.co.uk/crblog/grass-art/ D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Scooting Along Bloor
It's a very nice shot but...cutting off the bottom makes it feel like an almost kind of shot. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 6:02:08 AM, you wrote: ft If you haven't noticed, I have a weakness for scooters: ft http://tinyurl.com/68t52g ft http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHNa0E61IzI/CkI/MsROvCSMkUs/s1600-h/july_07_08+007.jpg ft When I first looked at this on the back of the camera, I was thinking ft that I should have zoomed out a bit to get the whole scooter, but the ft more I look at this the more I like it with the tight crop (it's ft actually shown full frame). Any thoughts? Is it too tight? At least ft this way it's different from my other scooter grabs. ft Comments appreciated. ft cheers, ft frank ft -- ft Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.
Cotty wrote: On 8/7/08, Thibouille, discombobulated, unleashed: Posting will be at your charge except of course if you we can meat somewhere. That's a rare offer. Perhaps 'twould be better well done. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Compressed DNG and Pentax Photo Browser
On Jul 8, 2008, at 3:36 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: Thibouille wrote: The thing is, The Pentax software will only recognize compressed DNG compressed by itself and NOT DNG compressed by Adobe :( Yes, I've noticed that, and this makes the whole DNG thing far less standardized and appealing than it looks (and should!). It's what should be called a defective implementation of the DNG specification by Pentax. They're not the only ones who've produced defective implementations with respect to DNG files. It's not the specification that's at fault, nor Adobe: it is the software vendors who don't seem to understand how to be compliant with a protocol specification. Since I refuse to use PPB/L as it is junk software anyway, the question is moot. I capture in PEF format and convert to DNG on the fly when importing to Lightroom. That renders the correct results for my workflow: compressed RAW files in the camera and properly formatted DNG files on the computer. There's nothing missing from the DNG files created this way, and what private data that Lightroom/ Camera Raw/Bridge might not use is not of any consequence to me. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Compressed DNG and Pentax Photo Browser
- Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: Re: Compressed DNG and Pentax Photo Browser On Jul 8, 2008, at 3:36 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: Thibouille wrote: The thing is, The Pentax software will only recognize compressed DNG compressed by itself and NOT DNG compressed by Adobe :( Yes, I've noticed that, and this makes the whole DNG thing far less standardized and appealing than it looks (and should!). It's what should be called a defective implementation of the DNG specification by Pentax. They're not the only ones who've produced defective implementations with respect to DNG files. It's not the specification that's at fault, nor Adobe: it is the software vendors who don't seem to understand how to be compliant with a protocol specification. I was thinking the same thing. All these camera companies have their own variations on raw files, be they PEFs or NEFs or whatever. When Adobe released the DNG format, I thought the idea was that it would be the file format version of film: IE: a cross platform format. So what do the camera makers do? They bugger up the implementation of it. It's kinda stupid, since Adobe has already done the legwork on compressed DNG files and all the camera companies have to do is insert Adobe's compression code into their own software (it was released as open source, was it not?). William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Scooting Along Bloor
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a very nice shot but...cutting off the bottom makes it feel like an almost kind of shot. Yes, but I'm almost a photographer, so it's quite fitting. ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - At the Show
Doug: You made a very beautiful picture here. I love it. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 12:31 PM Subject: PESO - At the Show for you people fans: http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=280 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - At the Show
P.S. My husband loved it too! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 12:31 PM Subject: PESO - At the Show for you people fans: http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=280 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Scooting Along Bloor
Hi Frank: For me it's too tight--but it's a good one anyway. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 8:02 AM Subject: PESO - Scooting Along Bloor If you haven't noticed, I have a weakness for scooters: http://tinyurl.com/68t52g http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHNa0E61IzI/CkI/MsROvCSMkUs/s1600-h/july_07_08+007.jpg When I first looked at this on the back of the camera, I was thinking that I should have zoomed out a bit to get the whole scooter, but the more I look at this the more I like it with the tight crop (it's actually shown full frame). Any thoughts? Is it too tight? At least this way it's different from my other scooter grabs. Comments appreciated. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Something unexpected :D
Sweet one, Timber! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 3:55 AM Subject: PESO: Something unexpected :D I was at a zoo-like place with my younger daughter, Édua. She loves horses (and donkeys too... she just can't different them :D) and I think she surprised everyone around her with this: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3041/2645706662_f9fc295c12_o.jpg K20D, DA 12-24 3 @ 24mm, f4, ISO 200, 1/2500 Even the donkey seems to be surprised! :D Cheers, Timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Compressed DNG and Pentax Photo Browser
On Jul 8, 2008, at 9:27 AM, William Robb wrote: I was thinking the same thing. All these camera companies have their own variations on raw files, be they PEFs or NEFs or whatever. When Adobe released the DNG format, I thought the idea was that it would be the file format version of film: IE: a cross platform format. So what do the camera makers do? They bugger up the implementation of it. It's kinda stupid, since Adobe has already done the legwork on compressed DNG files and all the camera companies have to do is insert Adobe's compression code into their own software (it was released as open source, was it not?). The Adobe Digital NeGative format specification is not open source: it is publicly disclosed, patented specification with a zero-cost license fee, in perpetuity, much like the TIFF specification. While a subtle distinction, it is important. Here are the information links: http://www.adobe.com/products/dng/ http://www.adobe.com/designcenter/photoshop/articles/phscs2dngspec/ phscs2dngspec.pdf The DNG compression algorithm is encompassed by the specification, but it takes more horsepower to implement than most camera devices are designed with. There are, of course, also always issues with compression/decompression coding which require a great deal of additional testing. For this reason, Adobe recommends device manufacturers to output uncompressed DNG files, minimizing processing power requirements and the possibility of errors in the compression implementation. Handling compressed DNG on a computer should be no difficulty at all, given proper testing. I suspect more that Pentax intentionally does not process DNG files that it does not produce to limit their risks and testing requirements, and perhaps for other marketing reasons. That doesn't make it any less a defective implementation in my view either. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Traffic, what traffic?
Good one, Paul. He looks a little heavy for that scooter--ya know, I think scooters are dangerous: they sit low to the ground making them hard to see; they make very little noise--noise is a good safety feature; they have very little speed for emergency situations--speed can be used in emergency situations; and sitting on a 2-wheeler as if sitting on a chair somehow seems like bad balance to me. You wouldn't get me on one of those things! Anyway, nice picture, Paul. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 8:45 AM Subject: PESO: Traffic, what traffic? For Frank. Check out that heavy duty brain bucket. Paul http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7521717size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: At the beach
http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?act=attachtype=postid=240339 Office friendly, dont worry. Exploring new (for me) ground. Comments appreciated. I don't know what to think. One part of me says it's crap, another says it is art. Most likely it is something between. -- MaritimTim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Vivian in the Clouds
Bob: That's sweet. And yes, fill flash worked great. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 12:57 PM Subject: PESO: Vivian in the Clouds My daughter-in-law borrowed one of my K10Ds to take this photo of my granddaughter. Fill flash worked well for her, eh? www.bob.blakely.com/Vivian_ITC.jpg Regards, Bob... - Lady Aster: Sir, if you were my husband, I should poison you! Winston Churchill: Madam, if you were my wife, I should drink it! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Watching
Hi Dave: I like your picture a lot. Ya know, lately I've been having an urge to shoot film; I even had a dream recently I was shooting film with my old MX. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 8:35 AM Subject: PESO: Watching G'day Folks. Firstly I want to thank all who commented on my Misty Morn PESO. You're comments were well received much appreciated. Now here's something I took a few weeks ago at a slide show night held at a local gallery (~150KB): http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3046/2641821115_4d4244aedb_o.jpg Pentax LX, FA 31mm f1.8, about 1/2 second @ f1.8, Tri-X 400. Any all comments welcome. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - 600mm collection
These are lovely, Jostein. Thanks for posting. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 6:24 AM Subject: GESO - 600mm collection I've grouped some shots with the FA*600/4 into one gallery. There are 10 images. 3 of them have been posted to the List before. The first 2 are from John Mustarde's garden in Paris, Texas. The third is one I've shown before from Østensjøvannet, and the rest is from last week-end's foray at Runde. http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/thumbnails.php?album=8 Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another bird picture
William: The bird is great--the background is a bit busy. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 10:14 PM Subject: Another bird picture After the levity of the clown birds, I felt we needed something a bit more nailed to the perch, so to speak. This little guy sat there for long enough to take my camera out, mount it to the tripod, use two different camera positions, 30 feet apart, and finally to mount the teleconverter before leaving. He was also kind enough to give me two different locations, this one being the nicer. Anyway enough about me, http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/new/robin2.html K20D, A600mm f/5.6 + A1.4L Teleconverter ISO800, f/9, 1/100 second. Enjoy William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery
They should start charging us (the Gallery participants) a dollar per photo for uploads! Maybe five dollars... No, I'm not serious (though I'd gladly pay it for the 1 or 2 photos per month that I submit) but it would sure cut down on people uploading 10 nearly-identical vacation snapshots. Or flowers. Or shots of their kids. I do find voting on submitted photos very educational and it definitely helps my eye, but the ratio of thumbs up to thumbs down is taking a big turn for the worse. I used to average 1 in 5 yes votes. Now I think it's below 1 in 10. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS: Willing to donate some stuff, some others I wanna get out cheaply etc.
Thibouille wrote: Stuff I wanna get rid of. Make me an offer, as I said I don't expect much million dollars (hehe) for those but just wouldn't let them go for nothing : - SMC Pentax FA 100/3.5 macro (1:2) I don't expect it's practical to make you an offer on this, given postage costs and the weakness of the dollar, but I *am* looking for one of these - even the Vivitar version (or Cosina or Phoenix, etc) If anyone knows where I might pick up one, new or second hand, I'd appreciate a head's up. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Kennyboy has a hands off review on the new Nikon D700
He's disparaging and supercilious as usual, and once again proves to me that he hasn't clue with this conclusion. Kennyboy? The only thing you're getting for $1,200 more than a D300 is much better finder, much better high-ISO performance and a green light to buy even more expensive ultra-ultra wide lenses. For most people, I wouldn't bother,... /kennyboy Read all about his opinion at his site, or don't bother,... -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Scooting Along Bloor
I'm a bit disappointed, it's alright, but you can do better. frank theriault wrote: If you haven't noticed, I have a weakness for scooters: http://tinyurl.com/68t52g http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHNa0E61IzI/CkI/MsROvCSMkUs/s1600-h/july_07_08+007.jpg When I first looked at this on the back of the camera, I was thinking that I should have zoomed out a bit to get the whole scooter, but the more I look at this the more I like it with the tight crop (it's actually shown full frame). Any thoughts? Is it too tight? At least this way it's different from my other scooter grabs. Comments appreciated. cheers, frank -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.