Re: My Daughter's Big Break

2008-10-13 Thread David Mann

On Oct 13, 2008, at 1:13 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote:


I missed the first report, and are late on this one too.
I hope for a fast recovery.


This isn't very relevant, but today marks 1 year since I broke my  
collar bone.  I've even managed to avoid breaking more since then (I  
had one good attempt at my spine but managed to come out with only  
bruising).


After saying that I bet I'll be collected by a bus tomorrow :)

- Dave


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Re: OT - Govt Agency doctors photograph to sanitize history

2008-10-13 Thread AlunFoto
Interesting to see your arguments, John.
Some comments are interspersed below:

2008/10/13 John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 So you *want* government-sanctioned art portraying smoking as cool?  Golly
 gee, that's a fabulous idea.  What's next, Scottish stamps of Ewan McGregor
 shooting up heroin?  Jamaican stamps of Bob Marley smoking pot?  Great, send
 them to the presses!  Maybe we could make them old-fashioned lick-em stamps
 and put some LSD in the paper.

How's that for stretching an argument? None of those drugs were ever
socially accepted and you know that. Why on earth do you want those
pics on stamps in the first place? But okay, if that's what you want
on your correspondance, I still think that portraits should go
undoctored. Can't say that I remember any famous photogs of the
situations you describe, btw.

 It's a painting of a photo of a dead celebrity.  I'd barely count that as
 history.  I can see being mad about a stamp portraying important historical
 figures like Douglas MacArthur without his pipe or George W. Bush with a
 brain, but an actress (who made no significant contributions to human
 history besides looking pretty and becoming the subject of a Rod Stewart
 song) without a cigarrette?  Come on.

I'm coming on. :-)
There are countless photos of Dubya out there trying to portray him
more favourably than (in my opinion) his foreign policies should give
him credit for, but I'm sure they'll pick one of those when it comes
to honor him with a stamp of his own. But it'd be wrong to tamper with
it nonetheless, wouldn't it? I don't know who Douglas MacArthur is. As
for the actress in question, she smoked. So what? If it's so damned
important to decorate letters with her portrait, then choose either
(1) to use a portrait that shows her for what she was in a time when
smoking was socially acceptable, or (2) go find a portrait where she's
without the cigarette in the first place. As it stands now, it really
is just another case for the photoshopdisasters blog.

On a tangential note, I would like to ask you about another famous
historical photograph, where Nikita Khrushchev was banging his shoe on
the table in the UN assembly: http://www.kp.ru/upimg/logo/18951.jpg
The event is documented in many places, but the photo is a hoax. A
rather bad one too, as you can see even on the small web-image that
the shoe is pasted in. Would you consider this manipulation to be
acceptable too, since the event took place without being photographed?

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Re: PESO: leaf

2008-10-13 Thread AlunFoto
Nice one! The contrast between the leaf and the imprint on the
concrete really makes it.

best,
Jostein

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Re: GESO - Cape May Wildwood, NJ

2008-10-13 Thread Cotty
On 12/10/08, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:

The snake, lighthouse, and cottontail are my faves.

Since the Dawn of Man, I cannot see how this sequence of words has ever
before met up in the same sentence - in any language, anywhere in the
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Re: PESO: Silver Pants

2008-10-13 Thread Cotty

 Oh, hey, wait a minute..I think the pavarotti finally found me.
 Looks like she has the runway walk down.
 Nice bold grab.

 Paparazzi perhaps?

 Pavarotti was, IIRC, an Italian singer.

  That completely changes the tenor of the shot.
 True, but I think the photograph still strikes the right chord for
 a lot of us.

 She was music to my eyes, for sure.

 BTW, that's a decent pick-up line.

I tried it on her, but it struck  sour note.

Wouldn't mind tightening up her G string :)



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Re: KAF3 - now the official name for SDM support?

2008-10-13 Thread Dario Bonazza

Martin Trautmann wrote:


Is there any reasonable explanation for
http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_specs/digital_camera--K2000_Lens_and_Flash_System/reqID--10540163/subsection--digital_slr - 
other than stupidity?


Mess.

K2000 names the KAF3 lens mount (for the body itself!) - and names 
compatibility for KAF2.


Scroll down that page and you'll see the camera mount is stated to be KAF2.

I doubt that KAF3 would be KAF2 without mechanical AF drive, but it's hard 
to say as long als Pentax messes up those things themselves.


I fully agree.

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Re: KAF3 - now the official name for SDM support?

2008-10-13 Thread Dario Bonazza

Martin Trautmann wrote:

I doubt that KAF3 would be KAF2 without mechanical AF drive, but it's hard 
to say as long als Pentax messes up those things themselves.


Just look at the endless mess they did by not distinguishing the crippled 
KAF2 from the true KAF2 and you'll have no more doubts about the ability 
of Pentax to mess up things.


All that mess produced in Pentax instruction manuals and public knowledge - 
just because a marketing genious didn't want to give different names to 
different bayonets - will never cease. At least this time they introduced 
the KAF3 name...


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Re: KAF3 - now the official name for SDM support?

2008-10-13 Thread AlunFoto
Martin, I agree it doesn't make much sense on the camera side of
things except to state the range of compatibility. On the lens side of
things, KAF3 means that it won't AF with a KAF2 camera. When a camera
is described as compatible with both 2 and 3, I assume it supports
lenses with either shaft-driven and the SDM AF. I wouldn't expect
PowerZoom functionality, though, which is what the SDM contacts were
used for in KAF2.

Still with the reservation of having got this right myself... :-)

If you look at the joint press release for the 55mm and 60-250, for
example, the prime is KAF3 and the zoom KAF2, but both have SDM.

Jostein


2008/10/13 Martin Trautmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I think the official thing about KAF3 is lack of support for
 camera-driven AF, leaving the lens or camera with SDM as the only
 means of AF.


 Hi Jostein,

 could be. Is there any reasonable explanation for
 http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_specs/digital_camera--K2000_Lens_and_Flash_System/reqID--10540163/subsection--digital_slr
  - other than stupidity?

 K2000 names the KAF3 lens mount (for the body itself!) - and names 
 compatibility for KAF2.

 I doubt that KAF3 would be KAF2 without mechanical AF drive, but it's hard to 
 say as long als Pentax messes up those things themselves.

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Re: KAF3 - now the official name for SDM support?

2008-10-13 Thread Martin Trautmann

 I think the official thing about KAF3 is lack of support for
 camera-driven AF, leaving the lens or camera with SDM as the only
 means of AF.


Hi Jostein,

could be. Is there any reasonable explanation for
http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_specs/digital_camera--K2000_Lens_and_Flash_System/reqID--10540163/subsection--digital_slr
 - other than stupidity?

K2000 names the KAF3 lens mount (for the body itself!) - and names 
compatibility for KAF2.

I doubt that KAF3 would be KAF2 without mechanical AF drive, but it's hard to 
say as long als Pentax messes up those things themselves.

Thanks,
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Re: KAF3 - now the official name for SDM support?

2008-10-13 Thread AlunFoto
Martin, I think the official thing about KAF3 is lack of support for
camera-driven AF, leaving the lens or camera with SDM as the only
means of AF.

Jostein

2008/10/13 Martin Trautmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi all,

 is KAF3 the official name now?

 Is there any change, other than adding support for SDM (Supersonic Drive 
 Motor) support?

 http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/technology/summary/index.html ends at crippled KAF2 
 for 1997. It does name the latest models up to the K20D, but does not name 
 the K-m (K2000D) yet. It does not differ between KAF3 and KAF2.

 Same for e.g. dpreview.com: they did not update the specs for K10D (after 
 firmware update), K100D super and upwards.

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Re: PESO: Silver Pants

2008-10-13 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/10/13 Mon AM 02:34:03 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PESO: Silver Pants
 
 
 
 --- On Sun, 10/12/08, PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Oct 12, 2008, at 7:59 PM, William Robb wrote:
  
  
   - Original Message - From: Mark
  Roberts Subject: Re: PESO:  
   Silver Pants
  
  
   Rick Womer wrote:
   From: Jack Davis
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   Oh, hey, wait a minute..I think
  the pavarotti finally found me.
   Looks like she has the runway walk
  down.
   Nice bold grab.
  
   Paparazzi perhaps?
  
   Pavarotti was, IIRC, an Italian singer.
  
That completely changes the tenor of the
  shot.
   True, but I think the photograph still strikes the
  right chord for  
   a lot of us.
  
   She was music to my eyes, for sure.
  
   BTW, that's a decent pick-up line.
  
  I tried it on her, but it struck  sour note.
 
  
 It was flat, so you gave it a rest and went to the bar.
 
 (If you were a Brit, there would have been a quaver in your voice, at minim).

If he had been a Brit, he would have struck a bum note.


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Re: OT - Guitars

2008-10-13 Thread Cotty
Thanks for all advice received.

Have ordered a Telecaster Nashville and Super Champ XD amp

http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/8/7/8/267878.jpg

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/closeup/SuperChampXD--Main

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Re: PESO: Silver Pants

2008-10-13 Thread AlunFoto
What, have I missed a pun thread?
Darn.
Jostein


2008/10/13 Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Or..twanging her G string.

 J


 --- On Mon, 10/13/08, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 Subject: Re: PESO: Silver Pants
 To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 1:37 AM
  Oh, hey, wait a minute..I
 think the pavarotti finally found me.
  Looks like she has the runway walk
 down.
  Nice bold grab.
 
  Paparazzi perhaps?
 
  Pavarotti was, IIRC, an Italian
 singer.
 
   That completely changes the tenor of the
 shot.
  True, but I think the photograph still strikes
 the right chord for
  a lot of us.
 
  She was music to my eyes, for sure.
 
  BTW, that's a decent pick-up line.
 
 I tried it on her, but it struck  sour note.

 Wouldn't mind tightening up her G string :)



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Re: OT - Guitars

2008-10-13 Thread Adam Maas
Looks like a nice, classic combo. A lot less spooky than my new guitar for sure

-Adam
Who just picked up an Ibanez RGTHRG1 H.R. Giger Signature guitar.

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Re: OT - Guitars

2008-10-13 Thread Cotty
On 13/10/08, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed:

Looks like a nice, classic combo. A lot less spooky than my new guitar
for sure

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RE: OT - Govt Agency doctors photograph to sanitize history

2008-10-13 Thread Anthony Farr
Prompted by Jos's efforts, I found the base image here:
http://classicmoviefavorites.com/davis/davis051.jpg
It also happens to be the image on the cover of Bette Davis Speaks as
pictured on Amazon.com.   Even though the image has differently posed hands,
I overlaid one on the other and found that Davis's face is 100% identical in
both.  The problem is that there is no cigarette in this shot, so I'm left
with egg on my face and with much diminished respect for Roger Ebert who has
apparently misled me.

Still, I'm not too sure.  WTF, I wonder, was the artist thinking when he
altered Davis's hand to a position that seemed to hold an invisible
cigarette when the source image unequivocally lacked a cigarette.  But I'm
not so certain that the book image is the source.  The tonality of the glove
is strange, and the coat looks patchy where Davis's hand would be according
to the postage stamp version. 

I suspect that Bette Davis's smoking has been censored both times.  The book
cover version has concealed her smoking habit as much as airbrush retouching
could achieve.  Paradoxically, the modern artist has very likely made the
truer rendition by leaving the cigarette's omission evident.

It's a shame that the oldest findable version of this picture is the
biography cover.  The original studio release would settle any doubts.

BTW the Robert Johnson portrait is without a doubt the same picture that has
been massaged so that it fits better onto a postage stamp.

Regards, Anthony

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
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 Sent: Monday, 13 October 2008 9:42 PM
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 Subject: Re: OT - Govt Agency doctors photograph to sanitize history
 
 I will moderate my stance on this one. Spent the lunch break zooming
 through a couple of internet databases on stills from Bette Davis
 career. There was a link to a youTube clip from All about Eve on the
 original blogpost, which came close as a possible inspiration for the
 stamp, where she's wearing the same coat, haircut and mittens. However
 if this is the source, the stamp must be regarded as an independent
 work of art however photorealistic it seems.
 
 So only one question remains. Would depicting Bette Davis with a
 cigarette in hand on a stamp actually promote smoking? I don't think
 so, but I'm open to arguments... :-)
 
 best,
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Re: OT - Guitars

2008-10-13 Thread Cory Waters

Yeah.. no kidding.. Pics or BAN!
CW

Cotty wrote:

On 13/10/08, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed:

  

Looks like a nice, classic combo. A lot less spooky than my new guitar
for sure



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Re: KAF3 - now the official name for SDM support?

2008-10-13 Thread Dario Bonazza

KAF3 is SDM-only interface (see the DA 17-70mm).
Currently, it's only been implemented on lens side, but there's nothing 
preventing it to show up on cameras too.

Nikon has done something like that with the D40 series.

Dario

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Subject: KAF3 - now the official name for SDM support?


Hi all,

is KAF3 the official name now?

Is there any change, other than adding support for SDM (Supersonic Drive 
Motor) support?


http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/technology/summary/index.html ends at crippled KAF2 
for 1997. It does name the latest models up to the K20D, but does not name 
the K-m (K2000D) yet. It does not differ between KAF3 and KAF2.


Same for e.g. dpreview.com: they did not update the specs for K10D (after 
firmware update), K100D super and upwards.


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Re: OT - Govt Agency doctors photograph to sanitize history

2008-10-13 Thread AlunFoto
Well done to find that image, Anthony!

Now it looks like the artist has improved the shot to hint at her
smoking habit. Not sure if I accept the tampering yet, but all of a
sudden the stamp pic is more in the same class as is the Shoe Incident
with Nikita Khrushchev... Although this is more cleverly done. I was
certainly had. :-)

Best,
Jostein

2008/10/13 Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Prompted by Jos's efforts, I found the base image here:
 http://classicmoviefavorites.com/davis/davis051.jpg
 It also happens to be the image on the cover of Bette Davis Speaks as
 pictured on Amazon.com.   Even though the image has differently posed hands,
 I overlaid one on the other and found that Davis's face is 100% identical in
 both.  The problem is that there is no cigarette in this shot, so I'm left
 with egg on my face and with much diminished respect for Roger Ebert who has
 apparently misled me.

 Still, I'm not too sure.  WTF, I wonder, was the artist thinking when he
 altered Davis's hand to a position that seemed to hold an invisible
 cigarette when the source image unequivocally lacked a cigarette.  But I'm
 not so certain that the book image is the source.  The tonality of the glove
 is strange, and the coat looks patchy where Davis's hand would be according
 to the postage stamp version.

 I suspect that Bette Davis's smoking has been censored both times.  The book
 cover version has concealed her smoking habit as much as airbrush retouching
 could achieve.  Paradoxically, the modern artist has very likely made the
 truer rendition by leaving the cigarette's omission evident.

 It's a shame that the oldest findable version of this picture is the
 biography cover.  The original studio release would settle any doubts.

 BTW the Robert Johnson portrait is without a doubt the same picture that has
 been massaged so that it fits better onto a postage stamp.

 Regards, Anthony

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 Sent: Monday, 13 October 2008 9:42 PM
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 Subject: Re: OT - Govt Agency doctors photograph to sanitize history

 I will moderate my stance on this one. Spent the lunch break zooming
 through a couple of internet databases on stills from Bette Davis
 career. There was a link to a youTube clip from All about Eve on the
 original blogpost, which came close as a possible inspiration for the
 stamp, where she's wearing the same coat, haircut and mittens. However
 if this is the source, the stamp must be regarded as an independent
 work of art however photorealistic it seems.

 So only one question remains. Would depicting Bette Davis with a
 cigarette in hand on a stamp actually promote smoking? I don't think
 so, but I'm open to arguments... :-)

 best,
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Re: St. Petersburg Youth Accordion Orchestra it Tallinn

2008-10-13 Thread Tim Øsleby
I'm far behind on commenting. There are things in my life keeping me
away from the list.

But I'd like to share a personal observation. Accordians looks a lot
better when you photograph them extended. A closed accordian is dead,
an open one is alive. Just my two øre ;-)

MaritimTim

2008/9/27 Roman Melihhov [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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 ^^^ I'll equip story with the names of the solists later on, it has been a
 lot of work with photos for one day and I kinda like em. Comments are always
 welcome. You may browse through entire 4 sets. I can barely keep my eyes
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Re: OT - Govt Agency doctors photograph to sanitize history

2008-10-13 Thread Scott Loveless

AlunFoto wrote:

So only one question remains. Would depicting Bette Davis with a
cigarette in hand on a stamp actually promote smoking? I don't think
so, but I'm open to arguments... :-)


Because some people seem to think that if you photograph it, it becomes 
cool, or something like that.  I guess.  Kinda like how video games 
promote violence, rap music tricks all who hear it into joining a gang, 
and LOLCats makes us believe that cats have really bad grammar.  I once 
saw a picture of a man who was completely covered in tattoos.  As soon 
as I have enough money..


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Re: KAF3 - now the official name for SDM support?

2008-10-13 Thread Martin Trautmann


 Is there any change, other than adding support for SDM (Supersonic Drive
 Motor) support?

side note: pentax.de names SDM as Super Dynamic Motor (google: 18 instead of 88 
hits)

I'm afraid that Pentax never ever will learn how to use matching names for 
their products. Upper or lower case, with or without dashes, maybe it's all the 
same for a company which is used to Japanese text.
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Re: OT - Govt Agency doctors photograph to sanitize history

2008-10-13 Thread ann sanfedele

Ok, Jostein --
Never heard of Douglas McArthur?  If I said WWII and Midway and called 
him a General
will a light bulb go on?  
is Old soldiers never die, they just fade away a phrase you might heard ?
anyway -- here is stuff about him.  


http://tinyurl.com/53pjzv

Here is a much reprinted photo I googled for:
http://tinyurl.com/3pzqbz

http://www.gallerym.com/images/work/big/mydans_carl_general_macarthur_landing_luzon_philippines_1945_16x20_L.jpg

Throughout my childhood I was told that the short soldier beind him and 
to _his_ right was
my half-brother, LT. Sterling A. Blackstone... who was killed in April 
of 1945 when a plane
he was in was either shot down or just crashed.  He is buried in Luzon.  

However, while he was one of McArthur's lieutenant's, he may have been 
elsewhere
in that group - one of my kin thought something about him didn't look 
quite right -- but
she is 5 years younger than I am and is judging only from photos - where 
as I idolized him
I think it was New Years eve of 1942 when he picked up a sandwich from 
the floor and ate it.
I was 6... I thought him very brave. :-)  

As to Robert Johnson, I have this recording of his work (an ebay 
listing, not mine)


http://tinyurl.com/3gus7h

no cig.

I never knew the bit about Khruschev photo doctoring.

ann

AlunFoto wrote:


Well done to find that image, Anthony!

Now it looks like the artist has improved the shot to hint at her
smoking habit. Not sure if I accept the tampering yet, but all of a
sudden the stamp pic is more in the same class as is the Shoe Incident
with Nikita Khrushchev... Although this is more cleverly done. I was
certainly had. :-)

Best,
Jostein

2008/10/13 Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 


Prompted by Jos's efforts, I found the base image here:
http://classicmoviefavorites.com/davis/davis051.jpg
It also happens to be the image on the cover of Bette Davis Speaks as
pictured on Amazon.com.   Even though the image has differently posed hands,
I overlaid one on the other and found that Davis's face is 100% identical in
both.  The problem is that there is no cigarette in this shot, so I'm left
with egg on my face and with much diminished respect for Roger Ebert who has
apparently misled me.

Still, I'm not too sure.  WTF, I wonder, was the artist thinking when he
altered Davis's hand to a position that seemed to hold an invisible
cigarette when the source image unequivocally lacked a cigarette.  But I'm
not so certain that the book image is the source.  The tonality of the glove
is strange, and the coat looks patchy where Davis's hand would be according
to the postage stamp version.

I suspect that Bette Davis's smoking has been censored both times.  The book
cover version has concealed her smoking habit as much as airbrush retouching
could achieve.  Paradoxically, the modern artist has very likely made the
truer rendition by leaving the cigarette's omission evident.

It's a shame that the oldest findable version of this picture is the
biography cover.  The original studio release would settle any doubts.

BTW the Robert Johnson portrait is without a doubt the same picture that has
been massaged so that it fits better onto a postage stamp.

Regards, Anthony

   


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Subject: Re: OT - Govt Agency doctors photograph to sanitize history

I will moderate my stance on this one. Spent the lunch break zooming
through a couple of internet databases on stills from Bette Davis
career. There was a link to a youTube clip from All about Eve on the
original blogpost, which came close as a possible inspiration for the
stamp, where she's wearing the same coat, haircut and mittens. However
if this is the source, the stamp must be regarded as an independent
work of art however photorealistic it seems.

So only one question remains. Would depicting Bette Davis with a
cigarette in hand on a stamp actually promote smoking? I don't think
so, but I'm open to arguments... :-)

best,
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KAF3 - now the official name for SDM support?

2008-10-13 Thread Martin Trautmann
Hi all,

is KAF3 the official name now?

Is there any change, other than adding support for SDM (Supersonic Drive Motor) 
support?

http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/technology/summary/index.html ends at crippled KAF2 for 
1997. It does name the latest models up to the K20D, but does not name the K-m 
(K2000D) yet. It does not differ between KAF3 and KAF2.

Same for e.g. dpreview.com: they did not update the specs for K10D (after 
firmware update), K100D super and upwards.

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Re: OT - Govt Agency doctors photograph to sanitize history

2008-10-13 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/10/13 Mon PM 02:20:08 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: OT - Govt Agency doctors photograph to sanitize history
 
 AlunFoto wrote:
  So only one question remains. Would depicting Bette Davis with a
  cigarette in hand on a stamp actually promote smoking? I don't think
  so, but I'm open to arguments... :-)
 
 Because some people seem to think that if you photograph it, it becomes 
 cool, or something like that.  I guess.  Kinda like how video games 
 promote violence, rap music tricks all who hear it into joining a gang, 
 and LOLCats makes us believe that cats have really bad grammar.  I once 
 saw a picture of a man who was completely covered in tattoos.  As soon 
 as I have enough money..

You're going to get them all lasered off?


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Re: PESO: Farmer's Market Family

2008-10-13 Thread PN Stenquist
Thanks Rick. After seeing my rendering for the first time with my  
glasses on and no scotch in my belly, I agree that it needs a bit of a  
tweak.:-). I'm on it.

Paul
On Oct 13, 2008, at 10:27 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

Nicely caught, Paul.  It might benefit from some playing with curves  
to deepen the mid and dark tones.


Rick

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Subject: PESO: Farmer's Market Family
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Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 10:35 PM
I love backlight that makes hair glow in combination with
some fill-in
flash.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8004513

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Re: OT:Raw File Extender (for JC)

2008-10-13 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Walter Hamler

Subject: OT:Raw File Extender (for JC)



http://www.raw-converter.com/en/index.php?id=81software=149

This is the one I use and it seems to work with every raw format I have 
tried.




Take this bit of code and paste it into a text editor and save it as 
dng_thumbnails.reg
Double click on the resulting file (or single click if you work that way), 
and viola!!

Your WinXP box will thumbnail DNG files.


Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.dng\ShellEx\{BB2E617C-0920-11d1-9A0B-00C04FC2D6C1}]
@={3F30C968-480A-4C6C-862D-EFC0897BB84B}


I can't recall who I got this info from, but it was some kind soul on this 
list.


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Re: PESO: Silver Pants

2008-10-13 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: PN Stenquist 
Subject: Re: PESO: Silver Pants





Oh, hey, wait a minute..I think the pavarotti finally found me.
Looks like she has the runway walk down.
Nice bold grab.


Paparazzi perhaps?

Pavarotti was, IIRC, an Italian singer.


 That completely changes the tenor of the shot.
True, but I think the photograph still strikes the right chord for  
a lot of us.


She was music to my eyes, for sure.

BTW, that's a decent pick-up line.


I tried it on her, but it struck  sour note.


Sometimes these things can get you in treble.

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Re: PESO: Farmer's Market Family

2008-10-13 Thread PN Stenquist
The foreground is a bit soft too -- dad's wrist for example. I focused  
on the child and apparently didn't have enough DOF to pull it off.  
Since I've already posted this, I'll leave a slightly enhanced version  
for now, but it will eventually be axed from my folder. Not a good shot.

Paul
On Oct 13, 2008, at 11:10 AM, PN Stenquist wrote:

Thanks Rick. After seeing my rendering for the first time with my  
glasses on and no scotch in my belly, I agree that it needs a bit of  
a tweak.:-). I'm on it.

Paul
On Oct 13, 2008, at 10:27 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

Nicely caught, Paul.  It might benefit from some playing with  
curves to deepen the mid and dark tones.


Rick

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I love backlight that makes hair glow in combination with
some fill-in
flash.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8004513

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Re: PESO: Silver Pants

2008-10-13 Thread Jack Davis
Or..twanging her G string.

J


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  Oh, hey, wait a minute..I
 think the pavarotti finally found me.
  Looks like she has the runway walk
 down.
  Nice bold grab.
 
  Paparazzi perhaps?
 
  Pavarotti was, IIRC, an Italian
 singer.
 
   That completely changes the tenor of the
 shot.
  True, but I think the photograph still strikes
 the right chord for
  a lot of us.
 
  She was music to my eyes, for sure.
 
  BTW, that's a decent pick-up line.
 
 I tried it on her, but it struck  sour note.
 
 Wouldn't mind tightening up her G string :)
 
 
 
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RE: OT - Govt Agency doctors photograph to sanitize history

2008-10-13 Thread Anthony Farr
 -Original Message-
 From: AlunFoto
 (snip)
 Now it looks like the artist has improved the shot to hint at her
 smoking habit. (snip)

Agreed.  It seems to me that the artist, with access to the unaltered
original (which we haven't found on the web), has omitted the cigarette at
his client's (US Postal Service)request, but changed little else.  The
earlier airbrush retouching seems more invasive in order to resolve the
'empty hand' effect that just erasing the cigarette creates.  I suspect that
the postage stamp rendition is more authentic than the Bette Davis Speaks
version of the picture, within the limitations of political correctness.
Apparently the postage stamp artist wants us to know that the cigarette is
missing, but the biography artist wanted to conceal the fact.

Regards, Anthony




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Re: KAF3 - now the official name for SDM support?

2008-10-13 Thread Dario Bonazza

Martin Trautmann wrote:

side note: pentax.de names SDM as Super Dynamic Motor (google: 18 instead 
of 88 hits)


Pentax De has a weakness for changing names. They dubbed as Limited 
Edition those lenses released by the parent company as just Limited, and 
then they interpret SDM as Super Dynamic Motor instead of Supersonic 
Drive Motor or just Sonic Drive Motor (as stated at the press conference 
in Dubai) last January.


I'm afraid that Pentax never ever will learn how to use matching names for 
their products. Upper or lower case, with or without dashes, maybe it's 
all the same for a company which is used to Japanese text.


Yes, I believe that the Japanese people of Pentax don't care so much about 
latin-spelled names for their product. That will explain how can they even 
allow name changes by the funny volks at their subsidiary in Hamburg.


Dario


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Re: OT - Govt Agency doctors photograph to sanitize history

2008-10-13 Thread AlunFoto
I will moderate my stance on this one. Spent the lunch break zooming
through a couple of internet databases on stills from Bette Davis
career. There was a link to a youTube clip from All about Eve on the
original blogpost, which came close as a possible inspiration for the
stamp, where she's wearing the same coat, haircut and mittens. However
if this is the source, the stamp must be regarded as an independent
work of art however photorealistic it seems.

So only one question remains. Would depicting Bette Davis with a
cigarette in hand on a stamp actually promote smoking? I don't think
so, but I'm open to arguments... :-)

best,
Jostein

2008/10/13 AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Interesting to see your arguments, John.
 Some comments are interspersed below:

 2008/10/13 John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 So you *want* government-sanctioned art portraying smoking as cool?  Golly
 gee, that's a fabulous idea.  What's next, Scottish stamps of Ewan McGregor
 shooting up heroin?  Jamaican stamps of Bob Marley smoking pot?  Great, send
 them to the presses!  Maybe we could make them old-fashioned lick-em stamps
 and put some LSD in the paper.

 How's that for stretching an argument? None of those drugs were ever
 socially accepted and you know that. Why on earth do you want those
 pics on stamps in the first place? But okay, if that's what you want
 on your correspondance, I still think that portraits should go
 undoctored. Can't say that I remember any famous photogs of the
 situations you describe, btw.

 It's a painting of a photo of a dead celebrity.  I'd barely count that as
 history.  I can see being mad about a stamp portraying important historical
 figures like Douglas MacArthur without his pipe or George W. Bush with a
 brain, but an actress (who made no significant contributions to human
 history besides looking pretty and becoming the subject of a Rod Stewart
 song) without a cigarrette?  Come on.

 I'm coming on. :-)
 There are countless photos of Dubya out there trying to portray him
 more favourably than (in my opinion) his foreign policies should give
 him credit for, but I'm sure they'll pick one of those when it comes
 to honor him with a stamp of his own. But it'd be wrong to tamper with
 it nonetheless, wouldn't it? I don't know who Douglas MacArthur is. As
 for the actress in question, she smoked. So what? If it's so damned
 important to decorate letters with her portrait, then choose either
 (1) to use a portrait that shows her for what she was in a time when
 smoking was socially acceptable, or (2) go find a portrait where she's
 without the cigarette in the first place. As it stands now, it really
 is just another case for the photoshopdisasters blog.

 On a tangential note, I would like to ask you about another famous
 historical photograph, where Nikita Khrushchev was banging his shoe on
 the table in the UN assembly: http://www.kp.ru/upimg/logo/18951.jpg
 The event is documented in many places, but the photo is a hoax. A
 rather bad one too, as you can see even on the small web-image that
 the shoe is pasted in. Would you consider this manipulation to be
 acceptable too, since the event took place without being photographed?

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OT: Black Silicone Could Change Digital Photography Forever

2008-10-13 Thread John Celio
http://gizmodo.com/5062412/black-silicon-discovery-could-change-digital-photography-night-vision-forever
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RE: OT - Govt Agency doctors photograph to sanitize history

2008-10-13 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/10/13 Mon AM 12:07:13 GMT
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: OT - Govt Agency doctors photograph to sanitize history
 
  
   Perhaps it's not OT regarding photography, but there's no Pentax  
   content:
  
   http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2008/10/thank_you_for_smoking.html
  
   http://tinyurl.com/4qun6c
  
   I hate revisionist history, even if old practices are now 
  officially  
   frowned
   upon.  If the picture was no good in its original form then they  
   shouldn't
   have used it at all.
  
   regards, Anthony Farr
  
  
  Different background, different angle on guitar neck, 
  different chord  
  fingering on the guitar, shirt open at the top, not closed. Possible
 
  in Photoshop, but that's a lot to do, even for a stamp. Maybe 
  the guy  
  moved for the photographer to a different place nearby and put down
 
  the butt. Just as plausible.
 
 
 Or maybe he left it at the crossroads...
 
 According to the correspondence lower down, that's the only known
 photograph of Robert Johnson. The stamp looks like a photo but maybe,
 like the Bette Davis picture, it's a painting or something - looks
 like it to me anyway.

Not correct.  The one shown is not even the better known one.  This is.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bb/RobertJohson.png

 
 It's strange how quickly attitudes to smoking have changed. I gave up
 over 15 years ago, after smoking for about 20. A few days ago I
 mentioned in passing something about smoking at my desk to one of my
 younger colleagues and he was aghast at the thought of people smoking
 in the office. He didn't know it had ever been legal, let alone
 normal, but if I left work without a medium-sized Alp of fag-ends in
 my ashtray I felt as though I hadn't been trying hard enough. Now it
 already feels strange being in countries where smoking is allowed in
 public places such as bars and restaurants.
 
 When they make stamps of Keith Richard I wonder if they'll airbrush
 the cigarette out of his machine head.
 
 Bob
 
 
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Re: KAF3 - now the official name for SDM support?

2008-10-13 Thread Dario Bonazza

Sleeping Dario wrote:

K2000 names the KAF3 lens mount (for the body itself!) - and names 
compatibility for KAF2.


Scroll down that page and you'll see the camera mount is stated to be 
KAF2.


I stand corrected: the KAF2 down there refers to the DA L 18-55 lens.

In any case, the K2000 is KAF2, not KAF3.

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Re: PESO: Farmer's Market Family

2008-10-13 Thread Rick Womer
Nicely caught, Paul.  It might benefit from some playing with curves to deepen 
the mid and dark tones.

Rick

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 Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 10:35 PM
 I love backlight that makes hair glow in combination with
 some fill-in  
 flash.
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8004513
 
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Re: Farmer's Market Family

2008-10-13 Thread Ken Waller
Paul, for my taste there's just too much Glow on her hair. Makes it look 
likes it smoking or on fire !


Kenneth Waller
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Subject: PESO: Farmer's Market Family


I love backlight that makes hair glow in combination with some fill-in 
flash.

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Re: OT: Black Silicone Could Change Digital Photography Forever

2008-10-13 Thread Steve Desjardins
Sounds very promising.  Solar cells would be more important, but ISO
12800 with little noise would be nice too.

 John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/13/2008 11:54 AM 
http://gizmodo.com/5062412/black-silicon-discovery-could-change-digital-photography-night-vision-forever

or: http://tinyurl.com/47m7wt 

Certainly sounds intriguing!

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Re: OT - Guitars

2008-10-13 Thread Adam Maas
Here's a pic of one (not mine, but identical)

http://cachepe.samedaymusic.com/media/quality,85/brand,sameday/RGTHRG1-594e52bca8f77a2d576e14ef43a029f1.jpg

The art is Giger's NYC XIX print on a otherwise stock '05 Ibanez RGT42
body (Mahogany body, Maple/Walnut thru-neck, Rosewood fretboard,
Abalone Shark-fin Inlays and binding, Edge Pro II trem, matte black
finish)

-Adam

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 13/10/08, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed:

Looks like a nice, classic combo. A lot less spooky than my new guitar
for sure

 Which is?

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Re: OT - Guitars

2008-10-13 Thread Cotty
On 13/10/08, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed:

Here's a pic of one (not mine, but identical)

http://cachepe.samedaymusic.com/media/quality,85/brand,sameday/
RGTHRG1-594e52bca8f77a2d576e14ef43a029f1.jpg

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Re: GESO - Cape May Wildwood, NJ

2008-10-13 Thread Joseph McAllister


On Oct 13, 2008, at 02:16 , Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 12/10/08, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:


The snake, lighthouse, and cottontail are my faves.


Since the Dawn of Man, I cannot see how this sequence of words has  
ever

before met up in the same sentence - in any language, anywhere in the
world. Congrats on a first Rick.

Cheers,
 Cotty



A big snake slithered under the door of the lighthouse last night and  
ate my pet cottontail bunny, one of my faves in the hutch.


Said that just last year, Cotty!

But you're on the right track - it's the first time I said it...   :-)

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RE: GESO - Cape May Wildwood, NJ

2008-10-13 Thread Bob W
 On 12/10/08, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 The snake, lighthouse, and cottontail are my faves.
 
 Since the Dawn of Man, I cannot see how this sequence of 
 words has ever
 before met up in the same sentence - in any language, anywhere in
the
 world. Congrats on a first Rick.
 

it was Sidney Reilly's preferred pass phrase for the agents he ran in
Baku during the 1920s, and passed into spy lore as a way for agents of
CI5 (such as Rick, obviously) to identify themselves to others without
anyone else finding out. I thought everyone knew that.

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Re: KAF3 - now the official name for SDM support?

2008-10-13 Thread Jan van Wijk
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:12:52 +0200, AlunFoto wrote:

If you look at the joint press release for the 55mm and 60-250, for
example, the prime is KAF3 and the zoom KAF2, but both have SDM.

But the prime has NO drive-shaft.

Live with it, KAF lenses are LESS capable than KAF2 ones are.
(allthough they could be faster at what to can do, SDM)

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RE: OT - Govt Agency doctors photograph to sanitize history

2008-10-13 Thread Joseph McAllister


On Oct 13, 2008, at 08:10 , Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


BTW the Robert Johnson portrait is without a doubt the same picture  
that has

been massaged so that it fits better onto a postage stamp.

Regards, Anthony



You obviously missed my post on this image, Tony.


Different background, different angle on guitar neck,
different chord
fingering on the guitar, shirt open at the top, not closed. Possible



in Photoshop, but that's a lot to do, even for a stamp. Maybe
the guy
moved for the photographer to a different place nearby and put down



the butt. Just as plausible.


As far as the Kruschev photo that was referenced, I had never seen it  
from that angle before, and a google search indicates that the image  
in question was doctored. The original just shows a raised open fist.   
However, the whole incident was televised and recorded by the media,  
and probably by several United Nations photographers. It was most  
certainly not a 'fake' staged or doctored event.



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Re: PESO: Silver Pants

2008-10-13 Thread ann sanfedele



AlunFoto wrote:


What, have I missed a pun thread?
Darn.
Jostein


oy.   now we've become unravelled

ann



2008/10/13 Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 


Or..twanging her G string.

J


--- On Mon, 10/13/08, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   


From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PESO: Silver Pants
To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net
Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 1:37 AM
 


Oh, hey, wait a minute..I
 


think the pavarotti finally found me.
 


Looks like she has the runway walk
 


down.
 


Nice bold grab.

 


Paparazzi perhaps?

Pavarotti was, IIRC, an Italian
   


singer.
 


That completely changes the tenor of the
 


shot.
 


True, but I think the photograph still strikes
   


the right chord for
 


a lot of us.
   


She was music to my eyes, for sure.

BTW, that's a decent pick-up line.
 


I tried it on her, but it struck  sour note.
   


Wouldn't mind tightening up her G string :)



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Re: PESO: Silver Pants

2008-10-13 Thread Jack Davis
My wife tells me I've never been wound too tightly. Not real sure if that's a 
compliment.(??)  ;)

Jack


--- On Mon, 10/13/08, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: PESO: Silver Pants
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 Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 12:32 PM
 AlunFoto wrote:
 
 What, have I missed a pun thread?
 Darn.
 Jostein
 
 oy.   now we've become unravelled
 
 ann
 
 
 2008/10/13 Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
 
 Or..twanging her G string.
 
 J
 
 
 --- On Mon, 10/13/08, Cotty
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: PESO: Silver Pants
 To: pentax list
 PDML@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 1:37 AM
   
 
 Oh, hey, wait a
 minute..I
   
 
 think the pavarotti finally found me.
   
 
 Looks like she has the
 runway walk
   
 
 down.
   
 
 Nice bold grab.
 
   
 
 Paparazzi perhaps?
 
 Pavarotti was, IIRC, an
 Italian
 
 
 singer.
   
 
 That completely changes the
 tenor of the
   
 
 shot.
   
 
 True, but I think the photograph
 still strikes
 
 
 the right chord for
   
 
 a lot of us.
 
 
 She was music to my eyes, for sure.
 
 BTW, that's a decent pick-up line.
   
 
 I tried it on her, but it struck  sour
 note.
 
 
 Wouldn't mind tightening up her G string :)
 
 
 
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Re: OT: Black Silicone Could Change Digital Photography Forever

2008-10-13 Thread DagT
Please note that there´s a significant difference between silicon,  
used in microprocessors, sensors etc , and silicone, used in film  
stars etc.


DagT

Den 13. okt.. 2008 kl. 17.54 skrev John Celio:


http://gizmodo.com/5062412/black-silicon-discovery-could-change-digital-photography-night-vision-forever
or: http://tinyurl.com/47m7wt

Certainly sounds intriguing!

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Re: OT - Govt Agency doctors photograph to sanitize history

2008-10-13 Thread John Sessoms

From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Even a stamp should portray visual fact. Visual reality.
 Correcting history should be permanently buried in the past. The 
 Russians, the Germans, whoever else perpetrated this unconscionable 
 editing to change reality of what was, were wrong.


 Almost literally everyone who sees this stamp says, Where's her cigarette?
 Suckin' on a smoke is Bette Davis!


Quite.  It's not just that they edited the cigarette out of the photograph
(although even that would be pretty bad) - it's also that the photograph
is so well known that most people who recognise the subject also spot the
fact that the cigarette has been removed.


Tempest in a teapot.

Actually read the article, and you might see 'The PORTRAIT by Michael 
Deas was inspired by a still photo from All About Eve.' [emphasis added]


It's a painting, not a photograph. The photo itself has not been edited.

In fact, I don't think there IS *A* photo. Looking through all the Bette 
Davis images Google brings up I didn't find one that I could say for 
sure is THE ONE.


What I did see is the face appears to be based on one All About Eve 
photo, one in which she isn't smoking BTW; her hands are not even visible.


The hair appears to be from a publicity still for Watch on the Rhine 
and the fur coat is from Deception.


There is a photo of her holding a cigarette where the glove is similar 
to the one in the painting, her hands  face are in a completely 
different position.


Then there are all those other photos where she doesn't appear to be 
holding a cigarette.


Seems to me, y'all are guilty of the same kind of political correctness 
you accuse the government of.


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RE: OT: Black Silicone Could Change Digital Photography Forever

2008-10-13 Thread Bob W
Oh, I dunno. Pammie Anderson, Mictosoft Windows - they're both
overblown, pumped-up bloatware that go down every chance they get. 

 
 Please note that there´s a significant difference between silicon,  
 used in microprocessors, sensors etc , and silicone, used in film  
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RE: OT - Govt Agency doctors photograph to sanitize history

2008-10-13 Thread John Sessoms

From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Besides, it is a famous photographic image.  


Yeah, it's so famous Google Image doesn't seem to have a link for it. 
Not one I was able to find anyway.


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RE: recommedations wanted - need to view raw files in xp file explorer

2008-10-13 Thread John Sessoms

From: JC OConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Since a recent hard drive crash, I need a replacement
Program-shell that will allow me to view pentax RAW
Files in Win XP file explorer (my computer).

Anybody have a recommendation? Freeware preferable,
I got one 18 months ago but can't seem to find it
Now with google.


Irfanview. It has a plug-in for viewing raw files that includes Pentax 
PEF. Works with the K10D version of PEF anyway.


And it's freeware.

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Re: OT: Black Silicone Could Change Digital Photography Forever

2008-10-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Damn you, Bob W!
I just cleaned my monitor a few minutes ago ... Now I have to do it  
all over again!

  ]'-)

G

On Oct 13, 2008, at 3:22 PM, Bob W wrote:


Oh, I dunno. Pammie Anderson, Mictosoft Windows - they're both
overblown, pumped-up bloatware that go down every chance they get.



Please note that there´s a significant difference between silicon,
used in microprocessors, sensors etc , and silicone, used in film
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Re: OT - Govt Agency doctors photograph to sanitize history

2008-10-13 Thread John Sessoms

From: Mark Roberts

oseph McAllister wrote:
 
 On Oct 12, 2008, at 12:26 , Anthony Farr wrote:


 Perhaps it's not OT regarding photography, but there's no Pentax content:

 http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2008/10/thank_you_for_smoking.html

 http://tinyurl.com/4qun6c

 I hate revisionist history, even if old practices are now officially 
 frowned
 upon.  If the picture was no good in its original form then they 
 shouldn't

 have used it at all.

 Different background, different angle on guitar neck, different chord 
 fingering on the guitar, shirt open at the top, not closed. Possible in 
 Photoshop, but that's a lot to do, even for a stamp. Maybe the guy moved 
 for the photographer to a different place nearby and put down the butt. 
 Just as plausible.


Wow! I hadn't even noticed all that. The Robert Johnson photos are 
clearly different shots!


Actually, no, the stamp image is a painting loosely based on the 
photograph. There are only two known photographs of Robert Johnson in 
existence, so it's gotta be one or the other, and it ain't the other.


The important part of the painting is the face, the rest is just window 
dressing.


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Re: recommedations wanted - need to view raw files in xp file explorer

2008-10-13 Thread Christine Aguila
Back in May, Thibouille posted this link.  I've downloaded it and it works 
like a charm.  HTH.  Cheers, Christine



- Original Message - 
From: Thibouille

Subject: Re: Codecs for DNG Thumbnails



Ok, William, download this:
http://www.earthboundlight.com/files/dng_thumbnails.reg

Run it. And voila.



You, my friend, are a God.
Thank you for showing me this.

William Robb

Subject: RE: recommedations wanted - need to view raw files in xp file 
explorer




From: JC OConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Since a recent hard drive crash, I need a replacement
Program-shell that will allow me to view pentax RAW
Files in Win XP file explorer (my computer).

Anybody have a recommendation? Freeware preferable,
I got one 18 months ago but can't seem to find it
Now with google.


Irfanview. It has a plug-in for viewing raw files that includes Pentax 
PEF. Works with the K10D version of PEF anyway.


And it's freeware.

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Re: Peso Ducks in Flight

2008-10-13 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Matthew, Joseph, and Rick:  I think I'll just refer to them as flying 
feathered creatures of some sort :-).  Cheers, Christine



- Original Message - 
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Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: Peso Ducks in Flight



On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 12:59 AM, Christine  Aguila
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I could have sworn they were ducks.


They are ducks, specifically drake Mallards.  On the upper side of the
wing is a blue rectangle, the speculum.  (Of course, you can't see
that it's blue in BW.)  The speculum is bordered by a thin white
line, front and back.  The thin white ring around the neck is also
visible.

Here's a color shot for comparison (not mine):

http://www.flickr.com/photos/markklotz/1520031746/

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Re: Bookworms

2008-10-13 Thread Brian Walters
Nice catch.

The male does seem to be reading at a slightly faster rate (skimming?)
while the female is probably comprehending more



Cheers

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On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 16:37:37 +0100, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 A sunny day in Greenwich brings out the Greater Striped Bookworm
 (Vermis Librorum) and its lesser-striped mate. Note the slightly
 different markings around the eyes, and the apparently synchronised
 'reading', a thinly-disguised pair-bonding ritual.
 
 http://www.web-options.com/Bookworms.jpg
 
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Re: OT - Guitars

2008-10-13 Thread John Sessoms

From: Cotty

Thanks for all advice received.

Have ordered a Telecaster Nashville and Super Champ XD amp

http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/8/7/8/267878.jpg

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/closeup/SuperChampXD--Main

Looks like I'm destined to be an oldie roadie - oh well, beats working
for a living!


Just out of curiosity, how are you going to plug that amp in?

I don't see any provision for switching the mains voltage to 220v.

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Re: PESO: Silver Pants

2008-10-13 Thread Christine Aguila


- Original Message - 
From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]



My wife tells me I've never been wound too tightly. Not real sure if 
that's a compliment.(??)  ;)


Jack


From: ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AlunFoto wrote:

What, have I missed a pun thread?
Darn.
Jostein

oy.   now we've become unravelled

ann


2008/10/13 Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Or..twanging her G string.

J


--- On Mon, 10/13/08, Cotty
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PESO: Silver Pants
To: pentax list
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Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 1:37 AM


Oh, hey, wait a
minute..I


think the pavarotti finally found me.


Looks like she has the
runway walk


down.


Nice bold grab.



Paparazzi perhaps?

Pavarotti was, IIRC, an
Italian


singer.


That completely changes the
tenor of the


shot.


True, but I think the photograph
still strikes


the right chord for


a lot of us.


She was music to my eyes, for sure.

BTW, that's a decent pick-up line.


I tried it on her, but it struck  sour
note.


Wouldn't mind tightening up her G string :)


I don't know, Cotty.  She looks the type to give you the pitch.  :-) 




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Re: Peso Ducks in Flight

2008-10-13 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Christine  Aguila
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 Hi Matthew, Joseph, and Rick:  I think I'll just refer to them as flying
 feathered creatures of some sort :-).  Cheers, Christine

As long as you've got your bats-vs-birds distinction down, that'll work.

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RE: OT - Govt Agency doctors photograph to sanitize history

2008-10-13 Thread John Sessoms

From: Anthony Farr

Prompted by Jos's efforts, I found the base image here:
http://classicmoviefavorites.com/davis/davis051.jpg
It also happens to be the image on the cover of Bette Davis Speaks as
pictured on Amazon.com.   Even though the image has differently posed hands,
I overlaid one on the other and found that Davis's face is 100% identical in
both.  The problem is that there is no cigarette in this shot, so I'm left
with egg on my face and with much diminished respect for Roger Ebert who has
apparently misled me.

Still, I'm not too sure.  WTF, I wonder, was the artist thinking when he
altered Davis's hand to a position that seemed to hold an invisible
cigarette snippage


Perhaps he was thinking the same thing that motivated the painter of the 
Robert Johnson stamp to move HIS hands so they fit better on the stamp?




BTW the Robert Johnson portrait is without a doubt the same picture that has
been massaged so that it fits better onto a postage stamp.


Artistic license. Or maybe he just don't draw hands so good?

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Re: Happy Thanksgiving

2008-10-13 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 1:28 PM, John Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Good God Dave,

 Isn't Madawaska all snowed in already?  Nothing like driving in the WOODS in
 the winter.. Look out for the lumber trucks. O:-)

No snow yet, but its not far off.:-)
Weekend was perfect, mid 20's and sunny. Good food and company.

I'm experienced in winter woods driving, btw.:-)

Dave

 John Graves
 WA1JG



 David J Brooks wrote:

 I;'ll be heading out to beautiful downtown Madawaska right after my
 last school run, at 4pm today.

 ( lets make this a challenge, and find the place on a map.:-))

 Colours are supposed to be very good this week and sunshine is
 forecast all weekend.

 Hope to get some good fall shots.

 I have a bag of chips and 4 cases of beer. I'm all set.

 g

 Have a good weekend and don't bug Cotty to much.:-)

 Dave

  


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Re: Happy Thanksgiving

2008-10-13 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Christine  Aguila
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 Have a great trip, Dave.  Looking forward to the pics.  But isn't it a
 little early for the Thanksgiving cheers? ;-) Cheers, Christine

Canadians like to get things out of the way early.:-)

Dave


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 Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 11:52 AM
 Subject: Happy Thanksgiving


 I;'ll be heading out to beautiful downtown Madawaska right after my
 last school run, at 4pm today.

 ( lets make this a challenge, and find the place on a map.:-))

 Colours are supposed to be very good this week and sunshine is
 forecast all weekend.

 Hope to get some good fall shots.

 I have a bag of chips and 4 cases of beer. I'm all set.

 g

 Have a good weekend and don't bug Cotty to much.:-)

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Re: GESO - Cape May Wildwood, NJ

2008-10-13 Thread Christine Aguila
Matthew:  Those are very nice pics, and thanks for posting that rental link. 
I might try them out some time.  Looks like the rates are reasonable enough. 
Looks like you gave the 300 a real workout--and it was a success.  That 
snake is something.  Great pic there.  You also caught some great early 
evening light.  Silhouette is also very nice.  Cheers, Christine



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Subject: GESO - Cape May  Wildwood, NJ



An album from our recent vacation to Cape May and Wildwood, New Jersey:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/sets/72157607770191688/

I rented a DA*300/4 from www.cameralensrentals.com for the trip,
with an eye toward buying it next summer.  Good service from the
company, and I found it to be an outstanding lens.  Sharp and
contrasty from f/4, with no noticeable CA or purple fringing.

My K10D have me some AF trouble, mostly trying to shoot birds in
flight.  If the bird ever slipped off the AF sensor, and the camera
only saw clear blue sky, it would send the lens to the close-focus
limit, and stay there (with the AF hexagon blinking).  Releasing and
re-pressing the shutter wouldn't budge it, nor would switching between
AF.C and AF.S, nor would turning the camera off and back on.  I had to
switch to MF, move the lens focus out, and then switch back to AF.  I
was able to reproduce this problem on the DA*300, my Tamron 70-300,
and my DA 18-55.  Now that I'm back home, and thinking of sending the
camera in for service, I can't reproduce it any more.  :-/

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Re: GESO - Cape May Wildwood, NJ

2008-10-13 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Christine  Aguila
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 Matthew:  Those are very nice pics, and thanks for posting that rental link.
 I might try them out some time.  Looks like the rates are reasonable enough.

and Rick Womer wrote:

 The snake, lighthouse, and cottontail are my faves.

Thanks, Christine, Bob, Jack, and Paul for your comments.  And thanks,
Rick, for listing your favorite positions from PDML Kama Sutra.  :-)

On the topic of www.cameralensrentals.com, two notes:

1)  Be sure to use the discount code CLR on your first order to get
a discount.

2)  They shipped my order by FedEx Ground, probably since it's only 1
or 2 days from their location.  The issue is that they (quite
reasonably) require a direct (in-person) signature, but at least in my
area, FedEx Ground doesn't let you pick up the package at the FedEx
facility.  That means if there isn't someone there during the day to
sign for your package, you may be in trouble.  If this is an issue for
you, you should probably discuss the shipping method with them.
They're a small outfit with with good communication, so I'm sure they
can make suitable arrangements.

After the DA*300, the next lens on my wishlist is either the Pentax
12-24, or the Sigma 10-20.  Since they carry both, I'm thinking of
using them for a head-to-head comparison.

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RE: GESO - Cape May Wildwood, NJ

2008-10-13 Thread Rick Womer
Damn, Bob.  I really didn't want to have to kill you...


--- On Mon, 10/13/08, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  
  The snake, lighthouse, and cottontail are my
 faves.
  
  Since the Dawn of Man, I cannot see how this sequence
 of 
  words has ever
  before met up in the same sentence - in any language,
 anywhere in
 the
  world. Congrats on a first Rick.
  
 
 it was Sidney Reilly's preferred pass phrase for the
 agents he ran in
 Baku during the 1920s, and passed into spy lore as a way
 for agents of
 CI5 (such as Rick, obviously) to identify themselves to
 others without
 anyone else finding out. I thought everyone knew that.
 
 Bob
 
 
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RE: OT - Govt Agency doctors photograph to sanitize history

2008-10-13 Thread Anthony Farr
Diligence fail for you.  I found it.  Read my posts.

Regards, Anthony

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 Sent: Tuesday, 14 October 2008 9:23 AM
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 Subject: RE: OT - Govt Agency doctors photograph to sanitize history
 
 From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Besides, it is a famous photographic image.
 
 Yeah, it's so famous Google Image doesn't seem to have a link for it.
 Not one I was able to find anyway.
 
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RE: Daily life in Fez (British Condiments)

2008-10-13 Thread Joseph McAllister
Not sure this got out the other day. Cleared a few dozen windows from  
my desktop and there it was.


On Oct 11, 2008, at 12:28 , Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


There are some foods which have a place on every English table,
however humble:
http://www.web-options.com/Lids.jpg

Bob


Those must be the modern condiments.

I'm talkin'

http://gallery.me.com/jomac#100197


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RE: OT - Govt Agency doctors photograph to sanitize history

2008-10-13 Thread Anthony Farr
About the Robert Johnson picture

The blog post that claimed there to be only one ever photograph of Johnson
is wrong, there are two confirmed photographs, this one and the one that
Anne pointed to, and there is a third unconfirmed photograph that was more
recently discovered at (a) swap meet digging through a photo album of old
south delta type photos:
http://blog.wired.com/music/2007/01/long_lost_third.html

As to the alterations between the cigarette smoking Johnson against a sheet
compared to the smoke free Johnson against the weatherboards, whose guitar
neck is nearer and steeper what is your point, Joseph?  The work
involved to make these changes is trivial, and producing a postage stamp is
not a trivial job.  I think they'd make the effort.

Here is an illustration I made of the postage stamp images of Robert Johnson
and Bette Davis, which matches them to the images they were derived from:
http://picasaweb.google.com/FarrAnthony/Illustrations#5256802623552356754

But don't take my word, here's the NY Times take on it the topic:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=950CE2D91F30F934A15753C1A9609
58260

BTW, the US Postal Service aren't the only cigarette censorers:
http://g.sheetmusicplus.com/Look-Inside/covers/5449537.jpg

Just so you know, I'm not a smoking defender.  I'm a political correctness
hater.

regards, Anthony

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 Sent: Tuesday, 14 October 2008 5:47 AM
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: OT - Govt Agency doctors photograph to sanitize history
 
 
 On Oct 13, 2008, at 08:10 , Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  BTW the Robert Johnson portrait is without a doubt the same picture
  that has
  been massaged so that it fits better onto a postage stamp.
 
  Regards, Anthony
 
 
 You obviously missed my post on this image, Tony.
 
  Different background, different angle on guitar neck,
  different chord
  fingering on the guitar, shirt open at the top, not closed. Possible
 
  in Photoshop, but that's a lot to do, even for a stamp. Maybe
  the guy
  moved for the photographer to a different place nearby and put down
 
  the butt. Just as plausible.
 
 As far as the Kruschev photo that was referenced, I had never seen it
 from that angle before, and a google search indicates that the image
 in question was doctored. The original just shows a raised open fist.
 However, the whole incident was televised and recorded by the media,
 and probably by several United Nations photographers. It was most
 certainly not a 'fake' staged or doctored event.
 
 
 Joseph McAllister
 Pentaxian
 
 


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RE: recommedations wanted - need to view raw files in xp file explorer

2008-10-13 Thread JC OConnell
Thanks, I found arcsoft on a recommendation. But, Irfanview is a file
viewer, not a shell for the file explorer,
What I wanted was ability to see raw file thumbnails with xp filer
explorer,
Instead of generic icons. Arcsoft does this.

JC O'Connell
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Subject: RE: recommedations wanted - need to view raw files in xp file
explorer

From: JC OConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Since a recent hard drive crash, I need a replacement
 Program-shell that will allow me to view pentax RAW
 Files in Win XP file explorer (my computer).
 
 Anybody have a recommendation? Freeware preferable,
 I got one 18 months ago but can't seem to find it
 Now with google.

Irfanview. It has a plug-in for viewing raw files that includes Pentax 
PEF. Works with the K10D version of PEF anyway.

And it's freeware.

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PESO: At the Farmers' Market

2008-10-13 Thread Rick Womer
This is from a Saturday morning, a couple of weeks ago:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8010551size=lg

K10D, DA 50-200, ISO 200, f/9.5 @ 1/500. (I kept getting jostled in the crowded 
market, so I kept the shutter speed high.)

Rick

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RE: recommedations wanted - need to view raw files in xp file explorer

2008-10-13 Thread JC OConnell
Thanks,

JC O'Connell
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Back in May, Thibouille posted this link.  I've downloaded it and it
works 
like a charm.  HTH.  Cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
From: Thibouille
Subject: Re: Codecs for DNG Thumbnails


 Ok, William, download this:
 http://www.earthboundlight.com/files/dng_thumbnails.reg

 Run it. And voila.


You, my friend, are a God.
Thank you for showing me this.

William Robb

Subject: RE: recommedations wanted - need to view raw files in xp file 
explorer


 From: JC OConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Since a recent hard drive crash, I need a replacement
 Program-shell that will allow me to view pentax RAW
 Files in Win XP file explorer (my computer).

 Anybody have a recommendation? Freeware preferable,
 I got one 18 months ago but can't seem to find it
 Now with google.

 Irfanview. It has a plug-in for viewing raw files that includes Pentax

 PEF. Works with the K10D version of PEF anyway.

 And it's freeware.

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Re: PESO: At the Farmers' Market

2008-10-13 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is from a Saturday morning, a couple of weeks ago:

Nice tubers.  This is the last month of our farmers' market, and I'll miss it.

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Re: PESO: At the Farmers' Market

2008-10-13 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Mark.  Our market runs all year, though it's every other week from 
November through April, and the pickins' get rather slim.

Rick

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--- On Mon, 10/13/08, Matthew Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  This is from a Saturday morning, a couple of weeks
 ago:
 
 Nice tubers.  This is the last month of our farmers'
 market, and I'll miss it.
 
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Re: PESO: At the Farmers' Market

2008-10-13 Thread gldnbearz
Hi Rick-
Very nice looking table of veggies there.  Our local farmers' market
is year-round depending on location.  Love the seasonal eating.

Regards,
Pat

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is from a Saturday morning, a couple of weeks ago:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8010551size=lg

 K10D, DA 50-200, ISO 200, f/9.5 @ 1/500. (I kept getting jostled in the 
 crowded market, so I kept the shutter speed high.)

 Rick

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Re: PESO: Farmer's Market Family

2008-10-13 Thread Doug


On Oct 12, 2008, at 10:35 PM, PN Stenquist wrote:

I love backlight that makes hair glow in combination with some fill- 
in flash.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8004513


That hair's too hot for me, Paul.

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