Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Thibouille
Flash sync speed is still not confirmed. It may be 1/250.
Noise reportedly is quite better. We'll see.

K-7 is top of the line, do not expect much better from the K200/K20
replacement, it will be lower end.
Maybe better video but forget about fps and fast shutter speeds.

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 1:18 AM, paul stenquist  wrote:
> This camera sounds good, although I'm disappointed with the flash synch
> speed. But if low light autofocus and autofocus speed in general are much
> improved, it's a major step up. The frame rate is also a big plus. But I may
> wait to see what the K30D offers. That camera is reportedly due later this
> year. I don't see the K7 as a game changer over the K20D, so I wonder if
> it's meant to be the flagship. In any case, I'll wait a bit, but if it seems
> that it won't be surpassed by another release very soon, I'll buy it and get
> rid of my K10D.
> Paul
> On May 18, 2009, at 6:53 PM, John Francis wrote:
>
>> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 05:47:50PM -0400, Graydon wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 05:36:53PM -0400, John Francis scripsit:

 On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 02:22:00PM -0300, Luiz Felipe wrote:
>
> http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com
>
> Looks interesting indeed... :-)
>
> LF

 So - what are the perceived strengths & weaknesses?

 Strengths, as I see them:
 o  Metal body shell
>>>
>>> Why is this a strength?
>>>
>>> More expensive, not as strong, and conducts more heat than the
>>> polycarbonate.  It might be a strength if you expect a 20 year working
>>> life and want something that won't become brittle when it runs out of
>>> elastomers, but that's not true of a digital camera.
>>
>> Stiffness.
>> I'm sure heat conduction isn't going to be an issue (there's an
>> outer skin of polycarbonate, after all, and the camera is cold-
>> weather certified).  But unless they're building the body out of
>> carbon fibre it's not going to be as stiff as one with a metal
>> shell.  The total lack of body flex is one of the things that
>> I noticed when I got to play with a high-end CaNikon.
>>
>> And I *do* expect close to a 20-year working life out of this.
>> My *ist-D still works just fine after 5.5 years; I expect it
>> to make it at least to 10.  My old Canon PowerShot G1 is still
>> delivering images (albeit now in the hands of its second owner),
>> and that's over eight years old.
>>
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Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Thibouille
K-7 is ike MZ-S, body is metal but it is covered with
polycarbonate/rubber so you won't feel the metal touch.


> More expensive, not as strong, and conducts more heat than the
> polycarbonate.  It might be a strength if you expect a 20 year working
> life and want something that won't become brittle when it runs out of
> elastomers, but that's not true of a digital camera.
>



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Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Thibouille
In this case, indeed there's no point.

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 11:40 PM, John Francis  wrote:

>
> I rarely use the 18-55 I bought with the K10D, especially
> since I now have the DA* 16-50.  I don't expect to buy the
> kit zoom if it would add $100 to the package price.
>



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Re: [PESO] Rocks in Water

2009-05-18 Thread Doug Brewer

Mark Roberts wrote:

http://www.robertstech.com/temp/may/7d902203.html


that rocks.

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Re: Speaking of airplanes an tripods...

2009-05-18 Thread Ken Waller
When I take my 600 to Alaska, I carry it onboard in a long lens case 
backpack by Kinesis http://kgear.com/ with a body mounted to the lens & put 
it in the overhead (check out the size of the overheads on the planes you'll 
be flying). I also carry on board the rest of my camera lenses & bodies in 
Tamrac backpack. I ship the tripod & heads packed in with my clothes in the 
checked luggage.


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- Original Message - 
From: "AlunFoto" 

Subject: Speaking of airplanes an tripods...



I figured I might as well let the cat out of the bag.

In November, I will be facing a major logistical challenge regarding
air transport of equipment. The occasion is a photographer's cruise to
Antarctic waters. Much like the one Michael Reichmann of Luminous
Landscape fame did some time ago. The itinerary includes flights
through Europe to Argentina, and a domestic flight from Buenos Aires
to Puerto Madryn. We'll get another domestic flight from Ushuaia to
Buenos Aires on the return, and then the long haul back.

So the challenge is what to pack and how. I'd dearly love to bring the
600/4, but that alone nearly fills the hand luggage quota for cattle
class. As I understand it, Argentinian weight limits are stricter than
both USA and Europa. Any and all serious suggestions would be most
appreciated.

My priority list so far is:
K20D with grip
K10D without grip (or possibly K-7 if it materialises in the market before 
then)


FA*600/4
DA*300/4
DA*60-250/4
DA*16-50/2.8
DA14/2.8
Sachtler tripod with RRS 55mm ballhead and Wimberley Sidekick

15" laptop
2 portable harddrives for backup.



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Re: [PESO] Rocks in Water

2009-05-18 Thread Ken Waller

Well done - sure is different with the clouds reflection.

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From: "Mark Roberts" 

Subject: [PESO] Rocks in Water




http://www.robertstech.com/temp/may/7d902203.html



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Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread John Francis

I doubt if the IQ will be much, if any, better than the K20D.
But, equally, I doubt if a K30D coming later this year will
offer noticeably better IQ than the K-7; doing that would be
guaranteed to piss off people who pay 2x the price of a K30D.

If a K30D shows up I'd expect it to get the new AF & metering,
plus the other in-camera processing stuff, and probably live
view, all in a cheaper package (probably BG-2 compatible).
I'm not sure it would get the new 4-channel sensor or the
higher top shutter speed; there needs to be differentiation
between the expensive model (the K-7) and the midrange,
which is where I expect any K30D to be positioned.

Waiting for a K30D in any expectation of it in some way
surpassing the K-7 doesn't sound like a good plan to me.


On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 07:30:32PM -0700, Jack Davis wrote:
> 
> Pretty much my feeling too, Paul.
> Seems, at this point, certain "improvements" are to some extent theoretical 
> and being left to some future real world testing.
> Many desirable features in the planning, but the IQ produced by my K20 may 
> not be that seriously challenged by the K7.
> 
> Jack
> 
> --- On Mon, 5/18/09, paul stenquist  wrote:
> 
> > From: paul stenquist 
> > Subject: Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...
> > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> > Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 4:18 PM
> > This camera sounds good, although I'm
> > disappointed with the flash synch speed. But if low light
> > autofocus and autofocus speed in general are much improved,
> > it's a major step up. The frame rate is also a big plus. But
> > I may wait to see what the K30D offers. That camera is
> > reportedly due later this year. I don't see the K7 as a game
> > changer over the K20D, so I wonder if it's meant to be the
> > flagship. In any case, I'll wait a bit, but if it seems that
> > it won't be surpassed by another release very soon, I'll buy
> > it and get rid of my K10D.
> > Paul
> > On May 18, 2009, at 6:53 PM, John Francis wrote:
> > 
> > > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 05:47:50PM -0400, Graydon
> > wrote:
> > >> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 05:36:53PM -0400, John
> > Francis scripsit:
> > >>> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 02:22:00PM -0300, Luiz
> > Felipe wrote:
> >  http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com
> >  
> >  Looks interesting indeed... :-)
> >  
> >  LF
> > >>> 
> > >>> So - what are the perceived strengths &
> > weaknesses?
> > >>> 
> > >>> Strengths, as I see them:
> > >>> o? Metal body shell
> > >> 
> > >> Why is this a strength?
> > >> 
> > >> More expensive, not as strong, and conducts more
> > heat than the
> > >> polycarbonate.? It might be a strength if you
> > expect a 20 year working
> > >> life and want something that won't become brittle
> > when it runs out of
> > >> elastomers, but that's not true of a digital
> > camera.
> > > 
> > > Stiffness.
> > > I'm sure heat conduction isn't going to be an issue
> > (there's an
> > > outer skin of polycarbonate, after all, and the camera
> > is cold-
> > > weather certified).? But unless they're building
> > the body out of
> > > carbon fibre it's not going to be as stiff as one with
> > a metal
> > > shell.? The total lack of body flex is one of the
> > things that
> > > I noticed when I got to play with a high-end CaNikon.
> > > 
> > > And I *do* expect close to a 20-year working life out
> > of this.
> > > My *ist-D still works just fine after 5.5 years; I
> > expect it
> > > to make it at least to 10.? My old Canon
> > PowerShot G1 is still
> > > delivering images (albeit now in the hands of its
> > second owner),
> > > and that's over eight years old.
> > > 
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Re: Speaking of airplanes an tripods...

2009-05-18 Thread Ken Waller
First thing would be to check with the photo 'guides' for the trip to ask 
what they'll be shooting.
A very good friend of mine - Rod Planck, a pro outdoor nature photog, does 
an Antarctic trip for Cheesmen in the capacity of photographic resource 
person
http://www.cheesemans.com/antarctica_sg_dec09.html and I don't recall him 
ever taking a 600 along.


While I'm pretty sure you could get some images with the 600, I don't 
believe its necessary for most photographic situations. For the most part 
you can get closer to the wildlife there than you can in many other places.


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From: "AlunFoto" 

Subject: Speaking of airplanes an tripods...



I figured I might as well let the cat out of the bag.

In November, I will be facing a major logistical challenge regarding
air transport of equipment. The occasion is a photographer's cruise to
Antarctic waters. Much like the one Michael Reichmann of Luminous
Landscape fame did some time ago. The itinerary includes flights
through Europe to Argentina, and a domestic flight from Buenos Aires
to Puerto Madryn. We'll get another domestic flight from Ushuaia to
Buenos Aires on the return, and then the long haul back.

So the challenge is what to pack and how. I'd dearly love to bring the
600/4, but that alone nearly fills the hand luggage quota for cattle
class. As I understand it, Argentinian weight limits are stricter than
both USA and Europa. Any and all serious suggestions would be most
appreciated.

My priority list so far is:
K20D with grip
K10D without grip (or possibly K-7 if it materialises in the market before 
then)


FA*600/4
DA*300/4
DA*60-250/4
DA*16-50/2.8
DA14/2.8
Sachtler tripod with RRS 55mm ballhead and Wimberley Sidekick

15" laptop
2 portable harddrives for backup.



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Re: Speaking of airplanes an tripods...

2009-05-18 Thread Christian

AlunFoto wrote:

I figured I might as well let the cat out of the bag.

In November, I will be facing a major logistical challenge regarding
air transport of equipment. The occasion is a photographer's cruise to
Antarctic waters. Much like the one Michael Reichmann of Luminous
Landscape fame did some time ago. The itinerary includes flights
through Europe to Argentina, and a domestic flight from Buenos Aires
to Puerto Madryn. We'll get another domestic flight from Ushuaia to
Buenos Aires on the return, and then the long haul back.

So the challenge is what to pack and how. I'd dearly love to bring the
600/4, but that alone nearly fills the hand luggage quota for cattle
class. As I understand it, Argentinian weight limits are stricter than
both USA and Europa. Any and all serious suggestions would be most
appreciated.

My priority list so far is:
K20D with grip
K10D without grip (or possibly K-7 if it materialises in the market before then)

FA*600/4
DA*300/4
DA*60-250/4
DA*16-50/2.8
DA14/2.8
Sachtler tripod with RRS 55mm ballhead and Wimberley Sidekick



You have to take the 600/4.  I'd go with the 60-250/4 and both the 16-50 
and 14.  check Naturescapes.com for some really good "legal-sized" yet 
expensive backpacks and such to hand carry your camera gear including 
the 600/4.  The tripod, and head can go in checked baggage.  I've seen 
some great wide-angle shots of penguin colonies and I've heard you have 
to be careful not to step on the wildlife, so keep that in mind. but 
still, you'll miss opportunities if you don't take the big glass.


Oh and I'm extremely jealous.  South Georgia and the Falklands 
(Malvinas) is on my list of places to go.


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Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Jack Davis

Pretty much my feeling too, Paul.
Seems, at this point, certain "improvements" are to some extent theoretical and 
being left to some future real world testing.
Many desirable features in the planning, but the IQ produced by my K20 may not 
be that seriously challenged by the K7.

Jack

--- On Mon, 5/18/09, paul stenquist  wrote:

> From: paul stenquist 
> Subject: Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 4:18 PM
> This camera sounds good, although I'm
> disappointed with the flash synch speed. But if low light
> autofocus and autofocus speed in general are much improved,
> it's a major step up. The frame rate is also a big plus. But
> I may wait to see what the K30D offers. That camera is
> reportedly due later this year. I don't see the K7 as a game
> changer over the K20D, so I wonder if it's meant to be the
> flagship. In any case, I'll wait a bit, but if it seems that
> it won't be surpassed by another release very soon, I'll buy
> it and get rid of my K10D.
> Paul
> On May 18, 2009, at 6:53 PM, John Francis wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 05:47:50PM -0400, Graydon
> wrote:
> >> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 05:36:53PM -0400, John
> Francis scripsit:
> >>> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 02:22:00PM -0300, Luiz
> Felipe wrote:
>  http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com
>  
>  Looks interesting indeed... :-)
>  
>  LF
> >>> 
> >>> So - what are the perceived strengths &
> weaknesses?
> >>> 
> >>> Strengths, as I see them:
> >>> o  Metal body shell
> >> 
> >> Why is this a strength?
> >> 
> >> More expensive, not as strong, and conducts more
> heat than the
> >> polycarbonate.  It might be a strength if you
> expect a 20 year working
> >> life and want something that won't become brittle
> when it runs out of
> >> elastomers, but that's not true of a digital
> camera.
> > 
> > Stiffness.
> > I'm sure heat conduction isn't going to be an issue
> (there's an
> > outer skin of polycarbonate, after all, and the camera
> is cold-
> > weather certified).  But unless they're building
> the body out of
> > carbon fibre it's not going to be as stiff as one with
> a metal
> > shell.  The total lack of body flex is one of the
> things that
> > I noticed when I got to play with a high-end CaNikon.
> > 
> > And I *do* expect close to a 20-year working life out
> of this.
> > My *ist-D still works just fine after 5.5 years; I
> expect it
> > to make it at least to 10.  My old Canon
> PowerShot G1 is still
> > delivering images (albeit now in the hands of its
> second owner),
> > and that's over eight years old.
> > 
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Re: [PESO] Rocks in Water

2009-05-18 Thread Jack Davis

It's impressive, Mark and I like it. Terrific tonality!
I believe I'd like the added bit of mystery that might be instilled if the 
clouds were not quite so easily identified. How they could best be smoothed and 
softened..??

Jack

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> Subject: [PESO] Rocks in Water
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 4:47 PM
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> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/may/7d902203.html
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Re: Speaking of airplanes an tripods...

2009-05-18 Thread paul stenquist
I think Stan has nailed it here. You'll be well covered with those  
three lenses. Just dont shortchange the insurance. You absolutely have  
to take the 600/4. It's a once in a lifetime opportunity. If I had  
room in my bags, I might take the other two lenses as well, partly for  
backup reasons.

Paul
Paul
On May 18, 2009, at 9:18 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:

Were it me, I would take the 600/4 (and a sherpa if possible). I  
would take either the 60-250 or the 300/4 but not both. Likewise,  
the 16-50/2.8 or the 14/2.8 but not both. My kit from among this set  
would probably be the 16-50/2.8, 60-250/4 and 600/4. Insure the  
600/4, pack it well, and send it as checked luggage. Carry the rest  
of the gear.
Another thought. Portable hard drives for backup is good, but what  
if the computer fails? An alternative in lieu of one hard drive  
would be something like the image tank that can function as an  
external, but  can also download cards directly if the computer is  
dead or not available when you need it.


stan

On May 18, 2009, at 4:00 PM, AlunFoto wrote:


I figured I might as well let the cat out of the bag.

In November, I will be facing a major logistical challenge regarding
air transport of equipment. The occasion is a photographer's cruise  
to

Antarctic waters. Much like the one Michael Reichmann of Luminous
Landscape fame did some time ago. The itinerary includes flights
through Europe to Argentina, and a domestic flight from Buenos Aires
to Puerto Madryn. We'll get another domestic flight from Ushuaia to
Buenos Aires on the return, and then the long haul back.

So the challenge is what to pack and how. I'd dearly love to bring  
the

600/4, but that alone nearly fills the hand luggage quota for cattle
class. As I understand it, Argentinian weight limits are stricter  
than

both USA and Europa. Any and all serious suggestions would be most
appreciated.

My priority list so far is:
K20D with grip
K10D without grip (or possibly K-7 if it materialises in the market  
before then)


FA*600/4
DA*300/4
DA*60-250/4
DA*16-50/2.8
DA14/2.8
Sachtler tripod with RRS 55mm ballhead and Wimberley Sidekick

15" laptop
2 portable harddrives for backup.



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Re: Speaking of airplanes an tripods...

2009-05-18 Thread Stan Halpin
Were it me, I would take the 600/4 (and a sherpa if possible). I  
would take either the 60-250 or the 300/4 but not both. Likewise, the  
16-50/2.8 or the 14/2.8 but not both. My kit from among this set  
would probably be the 16-50/2.8, 60-250/4 and 600/4. Insure the  
600/4, pack it well, and send it as checked luggage. Carry the rest  
of the gear.
Another thought. Portable hard drives for backup is good, but what if  
the computer fails? An alternative in lieu of one hard drive would be  
something like the image tank that can function as an external, but   
can also download cards directly if the computer is dead or not  
available when you need it.


stan

On May 18, 2009, at 4:00 PM, AlunFoto wrote:


I figured I might as well let the cat out of the bag.

In November, I will be facing a major logistical challenge regarding
air transport of equipment. The occasion is a photographer's cruise to
Antarctic waters. Much like the one Michael Reichmann of Luminous
Landscape fame did some time ago. The itinerary includes flights
through Europe to Argentina, and a domestic flight from Buenos Aires
to Puerto Madryn. We'll get another domestic flight from Ushuaia to
Buenos Aires on the return, and then the long haul back.

So the challenge is what to pack and how. I'd dearly love to bring the
600/4, but that alone nearly fills the hand luggage quota for cattle
class. As I understand it, Argentinian weight limits are stricter than
both USA and Europa. Any and all serious suggestions would be most
appreciated.

My priority list so far is:
K20D with grip
K10D without grip (or possibly K-7 if it materialises in the market  
before then)


FA*600/4
DA*300/4
DA*60-250/4
DA*16-50/2.8
DA14/2.8
Sachtler tripod with RRS 55mm ballhead and Wimberley Sidekick

15" laptop
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Re: [PESO] Rocks in Water

2009-05-18 Thread Mark Roberts
Graydon wrote:

>On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 07:47:03PM -0400, Mark Roberts scripsit:
>> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/may/7d902203.html
>
>This gave me a brief moment of thinking the emperor was falling (and
>thus way in the foreground from) out of an imperial star destroyer.
>
>Then I went "wait, no, it's rocks in the sky!" and that made more sense.
>
>I like the blues and am impressed with it technically, but am not sure I
>am comfortable with any photograph where "rocks in the sky" makes more
>sense. :)

"They hung in the sky in much the same way that bricks don't"
:-)

Thanks!


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Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-18 Thread Doug Brewer

Matthew Miller wrote:


I understand that no one actually has a helpful answer to my question, but
that doesn't mean that there *shouldn't* be one. Pentax customer support USA
couldn't help me either -- presumably only some engineers in Pentax Japan
know the answer. It irritates me that information like this isn't just in
the manual.




jeez. I tried.

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Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Graydon
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 07:30:06PM -0400, Adam Maas scripsit:
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Graydon  wrote:
[snip]
> > It would be surprising if all the chips involved could make it to 10
> > years; 20 would be well past surprising and into "how on earth?"
> > territory.  Running a microchip will eventually break it, as the
> > electrical current causes atoms to move and this eventually makes a
> > transistor unable to trans.  Relatively low power, and relatively low
> > use (no one has their camera on 24/7, unlike a server) camera chips are
> > going to last relatively well, but there's a certain amount of passive
> > diffusion involved, too.  All that cleverness isn't really stable; it's
> > just that the house of cards takes some years to fall over.
> 
> Design lifetimes on that sort of failure are in the decades. Server
> failures are generally heat or mechanical failures (something
> overheated or spindle/fan failures) and often both.

Or current spikes, yes.

But chip failures, particularly memory and processor failures, do
happen.  Managing materials migration is still something of a black art,
especially as new process nodes are developed and theory meets practise.

> I've got functional systems dating back more than 20 years (Mac II,
> circa 1987) and 2 systems currently up 24x7 that have been running
> since the late 90's (one PowerMac B&W G3, one PC)

There is very likely a certain amount of long-right-tail going on there,
and also a certain amount of 'larger process, less problem'; the Mac II
probably doesn't have any migration issues to speak of, it's not
miniaturized enough.  Current ~40nm processes have much more of a
problem with this sort of thing, there's just less distance involved.

Camera parts won't be on that kind of process, though I'd suspect
they're all down around ~100 nm by now; power is going to be a major
driver for process selection in anything battery powered.

And in a camera, the most vulnerable chip is the sensor. There are 2009
ACM papers presenting improved modelling methods for predicting sensor
node (which if I understand the abstract means "pixel") lifetime, so I
suspect the 'black art' part is still at least somewhat the case.

> 20 years for a camera is easily achievable under light/moderate. 

I won't go for easy; possible, sure, but this is something that gets
carried around and regularly rattled, a wide (or at least potentially
wide) thermal environment, and where the most important chip is
frequently directly exposed to daylight.

> The biggest issues will be batteries on those bodies that take
> proprietary batteries and overall shutter life. Chances are that
> getting replacements may become an issue and battery lifetimes are
> 18-24 months. Of course the Pentax bodies that take AA's lack the
> battery replacement issues.

No arguments whatsoever on the batteries.

-- Graydon

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Re: [PESO] Rocks in Water

2009-05-18 Thread Graydon
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 07:47:03PM -0400, Mark Roberts scripsit:
> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/may/7d902203.html

This gave me a brief moment of thinking the emperor was falling (and
thus way in the foreground from) out of an imperial star destroyer.

Then I went "wait, no, it's rocks in the sky!" and that made more sense.

I like the blues and am impressed with it technically, but am not sure I
am comfortable with any photograph where "rocks in the sky" makes more
sense. :)

-- Graydon

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Re: [PESO] Rocks in Water

2009-05-18 Thread paul stenquist

Excellent. A unique and dramatic shot.
Paul

On May 18, 2009, at 7:47 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:



http://www.robertstech.com/temp/may/7d902203.html


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[PESO] Rocks in Water

2009-05-18 Thread Mark Roberts

http://www.robertstech.com/temp/may/7d902203.html


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Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Adam Maas
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Graydon  wrote:
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 06:53:26PM -0400, John Francis scripsit:
>
>> And I *do* expect close to a 20-year working life out of this.
>> My *ist-D still works just fine after 5.5 years; I expect it
>> to make it at least to 10.  My old Canon PowerShot G1 is still
>> delivering images (albeit now in the hands of its second owner),
>> and that's over eight years old.
>
> It would be surprising if all the chips involved could make it to 10
> years; 20 would be well past surprising and into "how on earth?"
> territory.  Running a microchip will eventually break it, as the
> electrical current causes atoms to move and this eventually makes a
> transistor unable to trans.  Relatively low power, and relatively low
> use (no one has their camera on 24/7, unlike a server) camera chips are
> going to last relatively well, but there's a certain amount of passive
> diffusion involved, too.  All that cleverness isn't really stable; it's
> just that the house of cards takes some years to fall over.
>
> -- Graydon
>

Graydon,

Design lifetimes on that sort of failure are in the decades. Server
failures are generally heat or mechanical failures (something
overheated or spindle/fan failures) and often both.

I've got functional systems dating back more than 20 years (Mac II,
circa 1987) and 2 systems currently up 24x7 that have been running
since the late 90's (one PowerMac B&W G3, one PC)

20 years for a camera is easily achievable under light/moderate. The
biggest issues will be batteries on those bodies that take proprietary
batteries and overall shutter life. Chances are that getting
replacements may become an issue and battery lifetimes are 18-24
months. Of course the Pentax bodies that take AA's lack the battery
replacement issues.
-- 
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Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread paul stenquist
This camera sounds good, although I'm disappointed with the flash  
synch speed. But if low light autofocus and autofocus speed in general  
are much improved, it's a major step up. The frame rate is also a big  
plus. But I may wait to see what the K30D offers. That camera is  
reportedly due later this year. I don't see the K7 as a game changer  
over the K20D, so I wonder if it's meant to be the flagship. In any  
case, I'll wait a bit, but if it seems that it won't be surpassed by  
another release very soon, I'll buy it and get rid of my K10D.

Paul
On May 18, 2009, at 6:53 PM, John Francis wrote:


On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 05:47:50PM -0400, Graydon wrote:

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 05:36:53PM -0400, John Francis scripsit:

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 02:22:00PM -0300, Luiz Felipe wrote:

http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com

Looks interesting indeed... :-)

LF


So - what are the perceived strengths & weaknesses?

Strengths, as I see them:
o  Metal body shell


Why is this a strength?

More expensive, not as strong, and conducts more heat than the
polycarbonate.  It might be a strength if you expect a 20 year  
working

life and want something that won't become brittle when it runs out of
elastomers, but that's not true of a digital camera.


Stiffness.
I'm sure heat conduction isn't going to be an issue (there's an
outer skin of polycarbonate, after all, and the camera is cold-
weather certified).  But unless they're building the body out of
carbon fibre it's not going to be as stiff as one with a metal
shell.  The total lack of body flex is one of the things that
I noticed when I got to play with a high-end CaNikon.

And I *do* expect close to a 20-year working life out of this.
My *ist-D still works just fine after 5.5 years; I expect it
to make it at least to 10.  My old Canon PowerShot G1 is still
delivering images (albeit now in the hands of its second owner),
and that's over eight years old.


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Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Graydon
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 06:53:26PM -0400, John Francis scripsit:
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 05:47:50PM -0400, Graydon wrote:
> > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 05:36:53PM -0400, John Francis scripsit:
[snip]
> > > Strengths, as I see them:
> > >  o  Metal body shell
> > 
> > Why is this a strength?
> > 
> > More expensive, not as strong, and conducts more heat than the
> > polycarbonate.  It might be a strength if you expect a 20 year working
> > life and want something that won't become brittle when it runs out of
> > elastomers, but that's not true of a digital camera.
> 
> Stiffness.
> I'm sure heat conduction isn't going to be an issue (there's an
> outer skin of polycarbonate, after all, and the camera is cold-
> weather certified).

-10 C isn't much past brisk weather, but point.

> But unless they're building the body out of carbon fibre it's not
> going to be as stiff as one with a metal shell.  The total lack of
> body flex is one of the things that I noticed when I got to play with
> a high-end CaNikon.

Something I have not done, so I will take your word for it.

I will say I have not noticed any particular tendency in the K20D to
flex.

> And I *do* expect close to a 20-year working life out of this.
> My *ist-D still works just fine after 5.5 years; I expect it
> to make it at least to 10.  My old Canon PowerShot G1 is still
> delivering images (albeit now in the hands of its second owner),
> and that's over eight years old.

It would be surprising if all the chips involved could make it to 10
years; 20 would be well past surprising and into "how on earth?"
territory.  Running a microchip will eventually break it, as the
electrical current causes atoms to move and this eventually makes a
transistor unable to trans.  Relatively low power, and relatively low
use (no one has their camera on 24/7, unlike a server) camera chips are
going to last relatively well, but there's a certain amount of passive
diffusion involved, too.  All that cleverness isn't really stable; it's
just that the house of cards takes some years to fall over.

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Re: Fleetwood Mac - Quackers, Redwings, and Rushes

2009-05-18 Thread Joseph McAllister

On May 18, 2009, at 12:30 , John Francis wrote:


On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 02:42:45PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote:

John Francis wrote:


On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 09:06:53AM -0400, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Charles Robinson

A - but my FIRST concert was October 11, 1965; Reynolds  
Coliseum,

Raleigh, NC - The Rolling Stones.


Beat me by four years - my first (and only) Stones concert was
the 1969 "Concert for Brian" in Hyde Park.



Being older than most of you by a few years, I can state that I  
attended many concerts in San Francisco at many venues between 1967  
and 1972.  Don't remember many of them. Golden Gate Park was the  
closest to my apartment in the Haight. There I saw Baez, Dylan, Janis,  
Santana, Slick, Hendrix and Havens. My first wife's sister lived  
across the street from Kezar Stadium, and we listened to a few  
concerts there from their living room windows. At some point, I  
probably saw Lindsey and Stevie Nicks open for Hendrix or Janis as  
"Fritz". Some of the aforementioned were also at Altamont in 69. I  
left there before the Stones were finished with their set. Too freaky.


But the most memorable indoor event was Zappa's "The Mothers of  
Invention" concert. Loud, tight, marvelously cacophonous  music. That  
was topped in 1972 or 73 by Pink Floyd in Boston at the Garden. Dark  
Side of the Moon. 6th row center and properly medicated. At least a  
week before I could hear well again. Never been able to think well  
again though. Been a Floyd addict ever since.


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Re: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own?

2009-05-18 Thread Larry Colen
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 11:41:45PM +0100, Cotty wrote:
> Steady on chaps, it's all just a bit of fun. Personally speaking I like
> a bit of teasing before the kit comes out :-)

I thought you usually got teased *after* your kit came out.


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Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread John Francis
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 05:47:50PM -0400, Graydon wrote:
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 05:36:53PM -0400, John Francis scripsit:
> > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 02:22:00PM -0300, Luiz Felipe wrote:
> > > http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com
> > >
> > > Looks interesting indeed... :-)
> > >
> > > LF
> > 
> > So - what are the perceived strengths & weaknesses?
> > 
> > Strengths, as I see them:
> >  o  Metal body shell
> 
> Why is this a strength?
> 
> More expensive, not as strong, and conducts more heat than the
> polycarbonate.  It might be a strength if you expect a 20 year working
> life and want something that won't become brittle when it runs out of
> elastomers, but that's not true of a digital camera.

Stiffness.
I'm sure heat conduction isn't going to be an issue (there's an
outer skin of polycarbonate, after all, and the camera is cold-
weather certified).  But unless they're building the body out of
carbon fibre it's not going to be as stiff as one with a metal
shell.  The total lack of body flex is one of the things that
I noticed when I got to play with a high-end CaNikon.

And I *do* expect close to a 20-year working life out of this.
My *ist-D still works just fine after 5.5 years; I expect it
to make it at least to 10.  My old Canon PowerShot G1 is still
delivering images (albeit now in the hands of its second owner),
and that's over eight years old.


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Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread David Savage
I'd have to see some high ISO & long exposure test shots before I'd be
tempted. But I agree, on paper this looks like quite a beast.

That said, I've sunk so many $'s into Nikon it's not that likely. My
next camera will be 20+ MP FF.

DS

2009/5/19 Adam Maas :
> If those specs are accurate, Pentax is in the game, big-time. The
> specs are competitive with just about everything short of a D300 (and
> close enough to a grip-less D300 to be worth a look).
>
> man, if Pentax had only had this when the K20D came out, I'd never
> have gone back to Nikon. In fact it looks like I might be selling some
> Nikon kit since Pentax has, in the K-7, a body with the performance I
> want in a package that's reasonably sized.
>
> -Adam
>
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Luiz Felipe  
> wrote:
>> http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com
>>
>> Looks interesting indeed... :-)

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Re: PESO - Sheep in sunset

2009-05-18 Thread P. J. Alling

Sadly neither Frost nor Kipling have much to worry about.

Ken Waller wrote:

Ah..., you're a poet & I didn't know it.

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- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" 
Subject: Re: PESO - Sheep in sunset


I'm considering replies
  with considerable reprise.

To PDML excess
  with couplets of finesse.

(Some of the most fine
   displays of English rhyme.

Oft' under Shakespeare's banner
   were couplets in this manner.

Sadly for you lot,
   this doggerel is not.)


AlunFoto wrote:

Rumination, P. J.
Jostein

2009/5/18 P. J. Alling :


I've read the thread...
 It's been said.

Ken Waller wrote:


Not baad.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - From: "Tim Øsleby" 
Subject: PESO - Sheep in sunset




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Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread P. J. Alling

David J Brooks wrote:

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Charles Robinson  wrote:
  

On May 18, 2009, at 12:22, Luiz Felipe wrote:



http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com

Looks interesting indeed... :-)

  

Does anyone (who is allowed to speak about it) know what that knob is,
between the pop-up flash button and the RAW button?



Ken Rockwell.
  

Naa, Kennyboy is much larger and much lumpier...


Dave
  

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Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread P. J. Alling

PC socket cover.

Charles Robinson wrote:

On May 18, 2009, at 12:22, Luiz Felipe wrote:


http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com

Looks interesting indeed... :-)



Does anyone (who is allowed to speak about it) know what that knob is, 
between the pop-up flash button and the RAW button?


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Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread P. J. Alling
Effusive praise from RiceHigh, I never thought I'd see the day Pentax 
did anything right by his lights...
(Now I'm almost as excited as when Pentax introduced the LX, I doubt I 
can justify the price of this beauty though).


Luiz Felipe wrote:

http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com

Looks interesting indeed... :-)

LF




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Re: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own?

2009-05-18 Thread Joseph McAllister


On May 18, 2009, at 09:35 , John Francis wrote:


I'm officially allowed to be a curmudgeon now -
Friday was my 60th birthday


Happy 60th, John. Welcome to the old farts club.  :-)   :-)   :-0

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Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Graydon
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 05:36:53PM -0400, John Francis scripsit:
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 02:22:00PM -0300, Luiz Felipe wrote:
> > http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com
> >
> > Looks interesting indeed... :-)
> >
> > LF
> 
> So - what are the perceived strengths & weaknesses?
> 
> Strengths, as I see them:
>  o  Metal body shell

Why is this a strength?

More expensive, not as strong, and conducts more heat than the
polycarbonate.  It might be a strength if you expect a 20 year working
life and want something that won't become brittle when it runs out of
elastomers, but that's not true of a digital camera.

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RE: Speaking of airplanes an tripods...

2009-05-18 Thread Bob W
I think you would regret for the rest of your life not taking the longest
lens you can. Cough up the money to pay the excess weight charge.

Bob

> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Speaking of airplanes an tripods...
> 
> I figured I might as well let the cat out of the bag.
> 
> In November, I will be facing a major logistical challenge regarding
> air transport of equipment. The occasion is a photographer's cruise to
> Antarctic waters. Much like the one Michael Reichmann of Luminous
> Landscape fame did some time ago. The itinerary includes flights
> through Europe to Argentina, and a domestic flight from Buenos Aires
> to Puerto Madryn. We'll get another domestic flight from Ushuaia to
> Buenos Aires on the return, and then the long haul back.
> 
> So the challenge is what to pack and how. I'd dearly love to bring the
> 600/4, but that alone nearly fills the hand luggage quota for cattle
> class. As I understand it, Argentinian weight limits are stricter than
> both USA and Europa. Any and all serious suggestions would be most
> appreciated.
> 
> My priority list so far is:
> K20D with grip
> K10D without grip (or possibly K-7 if it materialises in the 
> market before then)
> 
> FA*600/4
> DA*300/4
> DA*60-250/4
> DA*16-50/2.8
> DA14/2.8
> Sachtler tripod with RRS 55mm ballhead and Wimberley Sidekick
> 
> 15" laptop
> 2 portable harddrives for backup.
> 
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Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread John Francis
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 04:40:50PM -0300, Luiz Felipe wrote:
> Considering the price of the DA 60~250, steep. But don't pass the kit  
> zoom so quickly, it's supposed to be weather-protected too...

I rarely use the 18-55 I bought with the K10D, especially
since I now have the DA* 16-50.  I don't expect to buy the
kit zoom if it would add $100 to the package price.


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Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread John Francis
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 02:22:00PM -0300, Luiz Felipe wrote:
> http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com
>
> Looks interesting indeed... :-)
>
> LF

So - what are the perceived strengths & weaknesses?

Strengths, as I see them:
 o  Metal body shell
 o  4-channel sensor readout (faster; lower noise)
 o  High-ISO performance  (I've only got a K10D ..)
 o  100% viewfinder (0.92X)
 o  1/8000 top speed
 o  5+ fps, 14-frame buffer (40 frame for JPEG)
 o  More dedicated controls
 o  3" 640x480 rear screen
 o  Multi-Pattern metering (assuming the firmware is good)
 o  Faster, more accurate AF (ditto)
 o  Battery Grip can accept AAs.

Weakness:
 o  Only 1/180 flash sync?  The Pz-1p managed 1/250.
 o  Doesn't (apparently) share batteries with the K10D

Don't care:
 o  Live View
 o  Low-temperature operation (how do the batteries do?)
 o  Movie mode (only 720p, though)
 o  In-camera image manipulation (including HDR)



 

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Re: tripods and airplanes

2009-05-18 Thread Joseph McAllister
Tripods are very easily broken by airport handling. Take the head off,  
and pack it and the legs in with your clothes bag, or carry the legs  
aboard and put in the bin. The average tripod "bag" does nothing to  
protect the tripod from anything other than scratches.



On May 18, 2009, at 09:11 , Rick Womer wrote:


C'mon, Gonz.

Would you like to have a tripod or 3.7 monopods on arrival?

"Would you like to have the cabin pressurized, sir?  That will be  
$25."


Rick

--- On Mon, 5/18/09, Gonz  wrote:


Anyone ever had problems checking
tripods as checked luggage on
flights?  Is a protective bag necessary?  I was
planning on just
making sure the legs were tied together.  Does anyone
know if they
charge $25 for this also?


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Re: Fleetwood Mac - Quackers, Redwings, and Rushes

2009-05-18 Thread Joseph McAllister

On May 18, 2009, at 06:32 , Charles Robinson wrote:


On May 17, 2009, at 07:17 , Charles Robinson wrote:


First rock concert I ever saw was Fleetwood Mac - back in May of  
1979 (the "Tusk" tour).


It was amazing (but of course, it was my FIRST ROCK CONCERT).

I've never thought of Lindsey as having a "wall of sound" style,  
though..?  perhaps his style has changed over the years?


The man has the fastest finger pickin' I've ever seen, which ends  
up sounding and looking like a super-speed strum. And he can go on  
like that for minutes. That's my definition of a "wall of sound".  
Much faster than, and certainly much louder than Flamenco (which I  
adore, in moderation) or classical guitar (which I could listen to  
all day).


Anyway, it's also his "theatre", ending up bent over, over-killing  
huffing and puffing, then pulling up in an arms raised "Yeayah"  
shout after 20 or 30 seconds.




OK, I see what you mean - I guess I just wouldn't have described it  
that way.  :-)


I found a couple of examples on d'Tube that illustrate my remarks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNQ_xYBJus0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOIctgUUsDE

And a clearer view of the current tour, with Mick Fleetwood's gold  
plated drum kit.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4zOe_iXeUY


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Re: Speaking of airplanes an tripods...

2009-05-18 Thread Bob Sullivan
J,
Great trip, but bad weight limitations.
You will just have to pay extra.
Regards,  Bob S.


On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 4:00 PM, AlunFoto  wrote:
> I figured I might as well let the cat out of the bag.
>
> In November, I will be facing a major logistical challenge regarding
> air transport of equipment. The occasion is a photographer's cruise to
> Antarctic waters. Much like the one Michael Reichmann of Luminous
> Landscape fame did some time ago. The itinerary includes flights
> through Europe to Argentina, and a domestic flight from Buenos Aires
> to Puerto Madryn. We'll get another domestic flight from Ushuaia to
> Buenos Aires on the return, and then the long haul back.
>
> So the challenge is what to pack and how. I'd dearly love to bring the
> 600/4, but that alone nearly fills the hand luggage quota for cattle
> class. As I understand it, Argentinian weight limits are stricter than
> both USA and Europa. Any and all serious suggestions would be most
> appreciated.
>
> My priority list so far is:
> K20D with grip
> K10D without grip (or possibly K-7 if it materialises in the market before 
> then)
>
> FA*600/4
> DA*300/4
> DA*60-250/4
> DA*16-50/2.8
> DA14/2.8
> Sachtler tripod with RRS 55mm ballhead and Wimberley Sidekick
>
> 15" laptop
> 2 portable harddrives for backup.
>
>
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Speaking of airplanes an tripods...

2009-05-18 Thread AlunFoto
I figured I might as well let the cat out of the bag.

In November, I will be facing a major logistical challenge regarding
air transport of equipment. The occasion is a photographer's cruise to
Antarctic waters. Much like the one Michael Reichmann of Luminous
Landscape fame did some time ago. The itinerary includes flights
through Europe to Argentina, and a domestic flight from Buenos Aires
to Puerto Madryn. We'll get another domestic flight from Ushuaia to
Buenos Aires on the return, and then the long haul back.

So the challenge is what to pack and how. I'd dearly love to bring the
600/4, but that alone nearly fills the hand luggage quota for cattle
class. As I understand it, Argentinian weight limits are stricter than
both USA and Europa. Any and all serious suggestions would be most
appreciated.

My priority list so far is:
K20D with grip
K10D without grip (or possibly K-7 if it materialises in the market before then)

FA*600/4
DA*300/4
DA*60-250/4
DA*16-50/2.8
DA14/2.8
Sachtler tripod with RRS 55mm ballhead and Wimberley Sidekick

15" laptop
2 portable harddrives for backup.



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Wild cherries (late in 2009)...

2009-05-18 Thread Roman Melihhov
http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20090518230149
^^^ cherries are blooming late this spring...

comments appreciated.



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Re: PESO - New College Choir

2009-05-18 Thread Rick Womer

Thanks, Luiz.  Not much light to work with back there, especially on a cloudy 
day.

"New College" was built in 1379.  There are actually several that are newer, 
but it is the "youngest" of the original Oxford colleges.

Rick

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> Rick, I find the light too flat for
> my taste. How old is the New College???
> 
> LF
> 
> Rick Womer escreveu:
> > In the choir of New College Chapel:
> > 
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9207092&size=lg
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Re: PESO: Last Laugh

2009-05-18 Thread Luiz Felipe
Couldn't enjoy it, probably the title. Good light, composition, colors - 
so it's just me. Sorry...


LF

Paul Stenquist escreveu:

K20D and DA* 60-250, 180mm f5.6, 1/750th, ISO 400,

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9202263

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Re: Peso Stones

2009-05-18 Thread Luiz Felipe
Sorry David, can't love it... and can't say I hate it either. Just can't 
connect.


LF

David J Brooks escreveu:

I know IR is a love or hate it kind of thing

So, love or hate this.;-)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/3539809221/

Canon G3

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Re: PESO - Brugge Old Harbor at Dusk

2009-05-18 Thread Luiz Felipe
Very interesting Rick. Really minor update could be losing the car and 
its 20th century feeling.


LF


Rick Womer escreveu:

A more classical Brugge (Belgium) shot, of the old harbor at dusk.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9202604

(K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 1600, f/4 @ 1/30)

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Re: PESO: Stripes

2009-05-18 Thread Luiz Felipe
Well seen, very interesting photo... and very interesting camera, if 
outdated. I still keep and use a SMC Takumar 135/2.5 bought in 1976... ;-)


LF

Bong Manayon escreveu:

Been out of the loop here (actually I was operating off Toronto time
since I was working on a photo essay for a Filipino magazine based
there--will give Frank a heads up once that one is out).  The Pentax
K-7 was a rumor when I last peeked in, now seems to be on its way.  I
was more excited this week when a friend 'gave' to me (it still
his...but I get to keep/use it) a Spotmatic F rotting in his closet
(he's a Nikon user).  I took it out last weekend for a walk...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/3538002961/

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Space Camera

2009-05-18 Thread John Celio
Take a look at the astronaut's camera in this article's top photo.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30805168/

I know it's not the K-m White, but it sure looks like it!  I did a
double-take when I opened the article.

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Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Thibouille
I'd say 1300-1500 euros with kit lens but 1500 is really a max.
Now some considerations:

* Pentax (Hoya) has recently increased prices (lenses and accessories)
in multiple countries but the price hike tends to diminish a couple
weeks later,

* Introduction price is always a bit steep, it will go down, even a
little, quite quickly,

* If previous trends with Pentax bodies continues, it will go down in
price quite much in coming months.

* Without the kit lens, it will be a bit more affordable but IMO I
wouldn't pass the weather sealed kit, just because weather sealed.

* US/EU price difference may play a role.

Food for thoughts. We'll know soon enough.

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Re: PESO - New College Choir

2009-05-18 Thread Luiz Felipe

Rick, I find the light too flat for my taste. How old is the New College???

LF

Rick Womer escreveu:

In the choir of New College Chapel:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9207092&size=lg

(K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 1600)

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Re: PESO: Salty Seas

2009-05-18 Thread Luiz Felipe
Sorry Daniel, I was not able to really connect to this photo. 
Interesting structure, the light is ok, but it stops there, for me.


LF

Daniel J. Matyola escreveu:

Another interesting structure at the harbor in Key West:

http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=main&webtag=djm1963&entry=11

Comments and criticisms welcome and invited.

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Re: PESO - New College Tutorial

2009-05-18 Thread Luiz Felipe
Interesting, Rick. Too empty?? I keep thinking about a couple of 
labradors running around... :-)


LF

Rick Womer escreveu:

Our son is visiting, so we walked around Oxford.  A tutorial was going on in 
New College (founded 1379):

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9207094&size=lg

(K10D, DA 16-45)

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Re: PESO - Brugge Old Harbor by Day

2009-05-18 Thread Ken Waller

Nice capture, but I like it better without the foreground structure.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Womer" 

Subject: PESO - Brugge Old Harbor by Day




This is the old harbor by day, looking in the other direction.

I don't know why the stone walls in the "dusk" version came out purple; 
must have something to do with the light and ISO 1600. I shoot RAW, but 
there was no way to correct their color. They are actually grey, as this 
photo has them.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9202605&size=lg

(K10D, DA 16-45)

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Re: tripods and airplanes

2009-05-18 Thread Graydon
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 08:48:51PM +0100, Cotty scripsit:
> On 18/5/09, Gonz, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >Anyone ever had problems checking tripods as checked luggage on
> >flights?  Is a protective bag necessary?  I was planning on just
> >making sure the legs were tied together.  Does anyone know if they
> >charge $25 for this also?
> 
> I always use a protective bag. Always.

Just, if you use any of the Think Tank tripod bags, make sure you take
the little cloth product name tag *off the bag* before setting foot in
an airport.

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Re: K7 DA/DFA feature( was How many DA/DFA lenses do you own?)

2009-05-18 Thread DagT
Wow, and I was just thinking about selling my DA14mm because of  
distortion (and because it is BIG and I just got the DA15mm). Strange  
that they made the 15mm almost without any distortion.


Maybe I should have bought the K7 instead...

DagT

Den 18. mai. 2009 kl. 19.22 skrev Thibouille:


Feature limited to DA/DFA is CA and distortion automaticaly corrected
(I suppose in RAW as well otherwise not *that* useful).

Oh and Auto HDR by bracketing 3 shots.
And yes, contrast AF is there as  well.

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Re: tripods and airplanes

2009-05-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/5/09, Gonz, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Anyone ever had problems checking tripods as checked luggage on
>flights?  Is a protective bag necessary?  I was planning on just
>making sure the legs were tied together.  Does anyone know if they
>charge $25 for this also?

I always use a protective bag. Always.

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Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Luiz Felipe
Daniel, there is some talk about ~1300 euros with the kit zoom, but 
could be just vapor. Considering the price of the 60~250, should be steep.


LF

Daniel J. Matyola escreveu:

Any indication on the retail price?

Dan

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Charles Robinson  wrote:

On May 18, 2009, at 13:39, Luiz Felipe wrote:


Folks say that's the x-sync cover. Can't vouch, but looks so.


Weird style.. looks like they make it intentionally difficult to grab onto
to remove!

But..  doesn't really matter.  I'll be able to afford one of these in about
3 years.  :-(

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Re: tripods and airplanes

2009-05-18 Thread Ken Waller
Haven't flown with one for a few years, but the last time I did (4/08) there 
were no extra costs. Just fit it in the overhead.


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Gonz" 


Subject: tripods and airplanes



Anyone ever had problems checking tripods as checked luggage on
flights?  Is a protective bag necessary?  I was planning on just
making sure the legs were tied together.  Does anyone know if they
charge $25 for this also?

-gonz




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Re: PESO - Sheep in sunset

2009-05-18 Thread Ken Waller

Ah..., you're a poet & I didn't know it.

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- Original Message - 
From: "P. J. Alling" 

Subject: Re: PESO - Sheep in sunset


I'm considering replies
  with considerable reprise.

To PDML excess
  with couplets of finesse.

(Some of the most fine
   displays of English rhyme.

Oft' under Shakespeare's banner
   were couplets in this manner.

Sadly for you lot,
   this doggerel is not.)


AlunFoto wrote:

Rumination, P. J.
Jostein

2009/5/18 P. J. Alling :


I've read the thread...
 It's been said.

Ken Waller wrote:


Not baad.

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- Original Message - From: "Tim Øsleby" 
Subject: PESO - Sheep in sunset




Not much to say. Except
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Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Luiz Felipe
Considering the price of the DA 60~250, steep. But don't pass the kit 
zoom so quickly, it's supposed to be weather-protected too...


LF (really interested, even if I don't have plans to buy one so soon)

John Francis escreveu:

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 02:35:59PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote:

If those specs are accurate, Pentax is in the game, big-time. The
specs are competitive with just about everything short of a D300 (and
close enough to a grip-less D300 to be worth a look).


Agreed.  If, as you say, this is anywhere near accurate, it looks
as though this is the camera body upgrade I've been waiting for.
I wonder what the price will be (body only, plus grip)?


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Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread John Francis
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 02:35:59PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote:
> If those specs are accurate, Pentax is in the game, big-time. The
> specs are competitive with just about everything short of a D300 (and
> close enough to a grip-less D300 to be worth a look).

Agreed.  If, as you say, this is anywhere near accurate, it looks
as though this is the camera body upgrade I've been waiting for.
I wonder what the price will be (body only, plus grip)?


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Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Any indication on the retail price?

Dan

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Charles Robinson  wrote:
> On May 18, 2009, at 13:39, Luiz Felipe wrote:
>
>> Folks say that's the x-sync cover. Can't vouch, but looks so.
>>
>
> Weird style.. looks like they make it intentionally difficult to grab onto
> to remove!
>
> But..  doesn't really matter.  I'll be able to afford one of these in about
> 3 years.  :-(
>
>  -Charles
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Re: Fleetwood Mac - Quackers, Redwings, and Rushes

2009-05-18 Thread John Francis
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 02:42:45PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote:
> John Francis wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 09:06:53AM -0400, John Sessoms wrote:
> >> From: Charles Robinson
> >>
> >> A - but my FIRST concert was October 11, 1965; Reynolds Coliseum,  
> >> Raleigh, NC - The Rolling Stones.
> >
> >Beat me by four years - my first (and only) Stones concert was
> >the 1969 "Concert for Brian" in Hyde Park.
> 
> Was that the one where King Crimson opened?

Yes.  It wasn't a particularly good concert for Stones fans - the
band didn't really have their act together.  I don't remember too
much detail, but contemporary reviews suggest King Crimson played
well.

I avoided the crowd (and the Hell's Angels and skinheads) by going
out on the lake in one of the boats available for hire.


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RE: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own?

2009-05-18 Thread John Whittingham
Belated Happy Birthday.

John

From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Francis 
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On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:12:49AM +0200, AlunFoto wrote:
> Don't worry Thibs.
>
> All of the oldtimers here are at some point guilty of curmudgeoning.
> It usually pass.
>
> Jostein
>  - oldtimer

I'm officially allowed to be a curmudgeon now -
Friday was my 60th birthday.


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Interesting Eos30D/K-7 size comparison

2009-05-18 Thread Thibouille
Just for the sake of it.
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/600773-post3313.html

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Re: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own?

2009-05-18 Thread John Francis

Thanks, Doug (and others).

The actual birthday was spent doing not very much (which,
nowadays, is high on the list of desirable ways to spend a day).
We had an oenophile friend visiting from out of town, so on the
two previous days we'd had nice dinners cooked on the charcoal
grill accompanied by some of the local California produce (two
Pinot Noirs from the Santa Maria area).  We had intended to
drink one of the two bottles he'd brought from his cellar, but
as I was still getting over a summer cold we decided it would
be a shame to open them.  One is a bottle of Mouton Rothschild
(1986), and the other is a 1970 Musigny Comte Georges de Vogue.
Nice kind of friend to have, no?

He flew out on Friday night, heading off to Australia for some
Southern hemisphere stargazing (his major hobby is astronomy).
Then on Saturday my wife and I went to a wine tasting event held
in the Santa Lucia Highlands area.  Unfortunately the weather
wasn't really cooperating - the temperature hit 100 in the
Soledad area - but it was slightly cooler in the foothills.


On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 01:02:21PM -0400, Doug Brewer wrote:
> John Francis wrote:
>> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:12:49AM +0200, AlunFoto wrote:
>>> Don't worry Thibs.
>>>
>>> All of the oldtimers here are at some point guilty of curmudgeoning.
>>> It usually pass.
>>>
>>> Jostein
>>>  - oldtimer
>>
>> I'm officially allowed to be a curmudgeon now -
>> Friday was my 60th birthday.
>
> man. You're old.
>
> actually, 60 doesn't seem so old to me...
>
> happy belated birthday
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Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Charles Robinson

On May 18, 2009, at 13:39, Luiz Felipe wrote:


Folks say that's the x-sync cover. Can't vouch, but looks so.



Weird style.. looks like they make it intentionally difficult to grab  
onto to remove!


But..  doesn't really matter.  I'll be able to afford one of these in  
about 3 years.  :-(


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Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Thibouille
Adam, I suppose you understand why I was (and still am) excited when I
found out :)
The thing I'm not sure but I think it could : AF with Video.
That would kick 5DII bottom ;)

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Adam Maas  wrote:
> If those specs are accurate, Pentax is in the game, big-time. The
> specs are competitive with just about everything short of a D300 (and
> close enough to a grip-less D300 to be worth a look).
>
> man, if Pentax had only had this when the K20D came out, I'd never
> have gone back to Nikon. In fact it looks like I might be selling some
> Nikon kit since Pentax has, in the K-7, a body with the performance I
> want in a package that's reasonably sized.
>
> -Adam
>

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Re: Fleetwood Mac - Quackers, Redwings, and Rushes

2009-05-18 Thread Mark Roberts
John Francis wrote:

>On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 09:06:53AM -0400, John Sessoms wrote:
>> From: Charles Robinson
>>
>> A - but my FIRST concert was October 11, 1965; Reynolds Coliseum,  
>> Raleigh, NC - The Rolling Stones.
>
>Beat me by four years - my first (and only) Stones concert was
>the 1969 "Concert for Brian" in Hyde Park.

Was that the one where King Crimson opened?


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Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Graydon
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 01:30:44PM -0500, Charles Robinson scripsit:
> On May 18, 2009, at 12:22, Luiz Felipe wrote:
>> http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com
>> Looks interesting indeed... :-)
>
> Does anyone (who is allowed to speak about it) know what that knob is,  
> between the pop-up flash button and the RAW button?

I think that's a knurled cover, rather than a knob; it looks a lot like
the K20D X-sync socket cover.

Speaking as someone who has the X-sync port of his K20D covered with
electrical tape, I kinda hope that's a screw-in cover instead of the
K20D friction fit, but mentally adjusting for scale has it coming up as
exactly the same cover.

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Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Luiz Felipe

Folks say that's the x-sync cover. Can't vouch, but looks so.

LF

Charles Robinson escreveu:

On May 18, 2009, at 12:22, Luiz Felipe wrote:


http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com

Looks interesting indeed... :-)



Does anyone (who is allowed to speak about it) know what that knob is, 
between the pop-up flash button and the RAW button?


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Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Charles Robinson  wrote:
> On May 18, 2009, at 12:22, Luiz Felipe wrote:
>
>> http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com
>>
>> Looks interesting indeed... :-)
>>
>
> Does anyone (who is allowed to speak about it) know what that knob is,
> between the pop-up flash button and the RAW button?

Ken Rockwell.

Dave
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>  -Charles
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Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Adam Maas
If those specs are accurate, Pentax is in the game, big-time. The
specs are competitive with just about everything short of a D300 (and
close enough to a grip-less D300 to be worth a look).

man, if Pentax had only had this when the K20D came out, I'd never
have gone back to Nikon. In fact it looks like I might be selling some
Nikon kit since Pentax has, in the K-7, a body with the performance I
want in a package that's reasonably sized.

-Adam

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Luiz Felipe  wrote:
> http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com
>
> Looks interesting indeed... :-)
>
> LF
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Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Bob Sullivan
Button is the same style as the 67ii flash sync socket cover.  Bob S.

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Charles Robinson  wrote:
> On May 18, 2009, at 12:22, Luiz Felipe wrote:
>
>> http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com
>>
>> Looks interesting indeed... :-)
>>
>
> Does anyone (who is allowed to speak about it) know what that knob is,
> between the pop-up flash button and the RAW button?
>
>  -Charles
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Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Thibouille
Flash sync terminal :)
I do not care but I know a bunch of people do.

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Charles Robinson  wrote:
> On May 18, 2009, at 12:22, Luiz Felipe wrote:
>
>> http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com
>>
>> Looks interesting indeed... :-)
>>
>
> Does anyone (who is allowed to speak about it) know what that knob is,
> between the pop-up flash button and the RAW button?
>
>  -Charles
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Re: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own?

2009-05-18 Thread Thibouille
CA and distortion autocorrection in body.
The tamron probably will not do it but your other lenses will do.

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 06:14:32PM +0200, Thibouille wrote:
>
>> You will bitch against older lenses (FA and older)... ;)
>
> Huh?
>
>> Well, at least those upgrading to K-7 (no, it's not compatibility
>> related, don't worry).
>> Simply, that feature is DA/DFA only.
>
> What feature?
>
> This post reads like an excerpt from another conversation.
>
> But in answer to your question:
>
> 18-55 Mk I
> Tamron 18-250
> DFA 50/2.8 macro
> DA 40
>
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Re: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own?

2009-05-18 Thread Thibouille
The bell didn't ring, at least for me.

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 8:18 PM, John Francis  wrote:
>
> Well, I'd sort of referred to it before (when I mentioned that
> my wife had told me I wasn't getting a present on my birthday
> if there was a new Pentax body to be released that soon :-).
>
>
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 07:00:53PM +0200, AlunFoto wrote:
>> And _now_ you're telling? :-)
>>
>> Happy birthday!
>>
>> 2009/5/18 John Francis :
>> > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:12:49AM +0200, AlunFoto wrote:
>> >> Don't worry Thibs.
>> >>
>> >> All of the oldtimers here are at some point guilty of curmudgeoning.
>> >> It usually pass.
>> >>
>> >> Jostein
>> >> ?- oldtimer
>> >
>> > I'm officially allowed to be a curmudgeon now -
>> > Friday was my 60th birthday.
>> >
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Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Charles Robinson

On May 18, 2009, at 12:22, Luiz Felipe wrote:


http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com

Looks interesting indeed... :-)



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Re: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own?

2009-05-18 Thread Larry Colen
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 06:14:32PM +0200, Thibouille wrote:

> You will bitch against older lenses (FA and older)... ;)

Huh?

> Well, at least those upgrading to K-7 (no, it's not compatibility
> related, don't worry).
> Simply, that feature is DA/DFA only.

What feature?

This post reads like an excerpt from another conversation.

But in answer to your question:

18-55 Mk I
Tamron 18-250
DFA 50/2.8 macro
DA 40


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Re: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own?

2009-05-18 Thread John Francis

Well, I'd sort of referred to it before (when I mentioned that
my wife had told me I wasn't getting a present on my birthday
if there was a new Pentax body to be released that soon :-).


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> 
> Happy birthday!
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> >> It usually pass.
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Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Thibouille
Well this very subject is still on debate.
Some swear it is 1/180 others swear it is 1/250. And all have very
good sources lol.
Reason why I do not throw such info here without making sure as
possible the info is solid.

Either way, half a stop is no big deal IMO but 1/250 would certainly
be very nice.


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RE: tripods and airplanes

2009-05-18 Thread Bob W
I sent a tripod in checked luggage to Ethiopia, strapped to the outside of
my Pelican 1550 case. It subsequently travelled by air and bus around the
country, then by air and boat to Zanzibar via Entebbe and Dar es Salaam, and
subsequently to South Africa before returning to London. It suffered no ill
effects and collected an interesting assortment of labels. 

Bob

> 
> Gons,
> Never checked a tripod by itself.  I would think you need some kind of
> container or suffer Rick W's suggestion of 3.7 monopods, or worse yet,
> the tripod never gets unloaded and travels on to Chicago...never to be
> seen again.
> When I've taken a tripod, it goes into my suitcase.  Just watch out
> for the 50 pound bag limit or they charge extra.  Find a roller bag
> you can carry on for the camera gear (+laptop?).  You won't need all
> that gear, but you won't be able to leave it home either.  I never
> can.  (When I bring the car, it gets worse.)
> Regards, Bob S.
> 
> 
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Gonz  wrote:
> > Anyone ever had problems checking tripods as checked luggage on
> > flights?  Is a protective bag necessary?  I was planning on just
> > making sure the legs were tied together.  Does anyone know if they
> > charge $25 for this also?
> >



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Re: PESO - Brugge Old Harbor by Day

2009-05-18 Thread Luiz Felipe
Very interesting Rick! Good placement of the boats too - I just feel the 
left lower part of the brigde somewhat empty.


LF

Rick Womer escreveu:

This is the old harbor by day, looking in the other direction.

I don't know why the stone walls in the "dusk" version came out purple; must 
have something to do with the light and ISO 1600. I shoot RAW, but there was no way to 
correct their color. They are actually grey, as this photo has them.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9202605&size=lg

(K10D, DA 16-45)

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Re: tripods and airplanes

2009-05-18 Thread Luiz Felipe
Old info, since I'm grounded for the last 7 years, but some yankee 
company declined to accept my tripod on the raw. It was packed, someone 
called me back to check those guns in my bag - the tripod. Time was 
short so I tried to dispatch the tripod instead of re-packing a very, 
very tight bag. The company wouln't allow. Bag re-packed, lots of harsh 
words exchanged. I'm positive there was some brasilian or portuguese 
behind the curtains, as every time I mentioned the unhealthy sex 
behavior of the bald critter in charge I heard laughter nearby. No, I 
shouldn't do it but he had no right to bring my skin tone into the 
matter for start...


Pack properly. Take deep breaths - then make sure you speak loud enough 
to be heard...


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Gonz escreveu:

Anyone ever had problems checking tripods as checked luggage on
flights?  Is a protective bag necessary?  I was planning on just
making sure the legs were tied together.  Does anyone know if they
charge $25 for this also?

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PESO - New College Choir

2009-05-18 Thread Rick Womer

In the choir of New College Chapel:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9207092&size=lg

(K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 1600)

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PESO - New College Tutorial

2009-05-18 Thread Rick Womer

Our son is visiting, so we walked around Oxford.  A tutorial was going on in 
New College (founded 1379):

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9207094&size=lg

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Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Luiz Felipe
Thibouille, would you think the x-sync speed would be incorrect?? Just a 
feeling??? :-)


I understand the secrecy is pretty much hard on those under NDAs, and 
really feel it's been a great time, waiting - not over yet - and 
searching clues and leaks... and fake pics too. :-)


LF (still smiling)

Thibouille escreveu:

I didn't link to it because everything isn't confirmed yet but vast
majority of this is indeed correct.

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Luiz Felipe  wrote:

http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com

Looks interesting indeed... :-)

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Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Thibouille
I didn't link to it because everything isn't confirmed yet but vast
majority of this is indeed correct.

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Luiz Felipe  wrote:
> http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com
>
> Looks interesting indeed... :-)
>
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Re: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own?

2009-05-18 Thread Thibouille
Sure cartoonish HDR is fun but... well that's all there's to it.
If well implemented, it should be very useful.

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> From: AlunFoto
>>
>> 2009/5/17 Thibouille :
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Oh, anybody likes HDR, by the way?
>>
>> Not really.  :-)
>
> It has its uses occasionally if it's not overblown to the point of looking
> cartoonish.
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K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Luiz Felipe

http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com

Looks interesting indeed... :-)

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K7 DA/DFA feature( was How many DA/DFA lenses do you own?)

2009-05-18 Thread Thibouille
Feature limited to DA/DFA is CA and distortion automaticaly corrected
(I suppose in RAW as well otherwise not *that* useful).

Oh and Auto HDR by bracketing 3 shots.
And yes, contrast AF is there as  well.

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Re: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own?

2009-05-18 Thread Thibouille
Happy birthday John :)

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 6:35 PM, John Francis  wrote:
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:12:49AM +0200, AlunFoto wrote:
>> Don't worry Thibs.
>>
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>> It usually pass.
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Re: tripods and airplanes

2009-05-18 Thread Doug Brewer

Gonz wrote:

Anyone ever had problems checking tripods as checked luggage on
flights?  Is a protective bag necessary?  I was planning on just
making sure the legs were tied together.  Does anyone know if they
charge $25 for this also?

-gonz


I'll have one or two tripods with me, and little time to use them, so 
you're more than welcome to borrow one. Do you have arca-swiss-type plates?


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Re: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own?

2009-05-18 Thread Doug Brewer

John Francis wrote:

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:12:49AM +0200, AlunFoto wrote:

Don't worry Thibs.

All of the oldtimers here are at some point guilty of curmudgeoning.
It usually pass.

Jostein
 - oldtimer


I'm officially allowed to be a curmudgeon now -
Friday was my 60th birthday.


man. You're old.

actually, 60 doesn't seem so old to me...

happy belated birthday

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Re: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own?

2009-05-18 Thread AlunFoto
And _now_ you're telling? :-)

Happy birthday!

2009/5/18 John Francis :
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:12:49AM +0200, AlunFoto wrote:
>> Don't worry Thibs.
>>
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>> It usually pass.
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Re: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own?

2009-05-18 Thread Boris Liberman

Happy Birthday, John!

Boris

John Francis wrote:

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:12:49AM +0200, AlunFoto wrote:

Don't worry Thibs.

All of the oldtimers here are at some point guilty of curmudgeoning.
It usually pass.

Jostein
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Re: tripods and airplanes

2009-05-18 Thread AlunFoto
I think standard recommendation is to use some sort of protective bag.
I know a few photographers who always take the ballhead off and give
it an extra couple of wrappings too.

Jostein

2009/5/18 Gonz :
> Anyone ever had problems checking tripods as checked luggage on
> flights?  Is a protective bag necessary?  I was planning on just
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Re: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own?

2009-05-18 Thread Scott Loveless
On 5/17/09, Mark Roberts  wrote:
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>  reading it, I see only one alternative for dealing with someone who
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>  Good night, Gracie.
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Re: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own?

2009-05-18 Thread Scott Loveless
On 5/17/09, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
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>  Regards, Bob S.

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Re: tripods and airplanes

2009-05-18 Thread Bob Sullivan
Gons,
Never checked a tripod by itself.  I would think you need some kind of
container or suffer Rick W's suggestion of 3.7 monopods, or worse yet,
the tripod never gets unloaded and travels on to Chicago...never to be
seen again.
When I've taken a tripod, it goes into my suitcase.  Just watch out
for the 50 pound bag limit or they charge extra.  Find a roller bag
you can carry on for the camera gear (+laptop?).  You won't need all
that gear, but you won't be able to leave it home either.  I never
can.  (When I bring the car, it gets worse.)
Regards, Bob S.


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> Anyone ever had problems checking tripods as checked luggage on
> flights?  Is a protective bag necessary?  I was planning on just
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> charge $25 for this also?
>
> -gonz
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RE: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own?

2009-05-18 Thread Bob W
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:12:49AM +0200, AlunFoto wrote:
> > Don't worry Thibs.
> > 
> > All of the oldtimers here are at some point guilty of curmudgeoning.
> > It usually pass.
> > 
> > Jostein
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> Friday was my 60th birthday.
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Happy Birthday!

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Re: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own?

2009-05-18 Thread John Francis
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:12:49AM +0200, AlunFoto wrote:
> Don't worry Thibs.
> 
> All of the oldtimers here are at some point guilty of curmudgeoning.
> It usually pass.
> 
> Jostein
>  - oldtimer

I'm officially allowed to be a curmudgeon now -
Friday was my 60th birthday.


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