Magnum booty moves house

[Derby Chang]

This seems rather sad but beautiful at the same time. Magnum press 
prints are sold to Michael Dell, but they will be available for 
scholarly study for 5 years. Maybe, surely, some gems will be unearthed 
when they go through the collection


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/02/arts/design/02magnum.html?em

Are the negatives still in Magnum's office? Shouldn't they be in a 
temperature controlled archive as well?


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Re: PESO - Dark, Snowy Commute

[Bruce Dayton]

There is something about this.  Having grown up in Utah snow and
living in California, it reminds of earlier times in my life.  I find
the shot charming.

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Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 6:40:05 PM, you wrote:

ft> Taken a couple of hours ago.  Today's the first snow we've had in
ft> weeks.  As you can see, it's just a frosting, but as Hugh Morton said,
ft> "bad weather makes good photos":

ft> http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2010/02/dark-snowy-commute.html

ft> I'm not sure that this is a good photo, but the snow certainly makes
ft> it more interesting, IMHO.

ft> Scroll down and click on photo to enlarge.

ft> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

ft> cheers,
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Re: Interesting discussion of flash sync speeds at Strobist.

[Bruce Dayton]

Yes, very interesting...thanks for posting that.

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Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:31:33 PM, you wrote:

PJA> There was a certian amount of Angst about the K-7 having a sync speed of
PJA> only 1/180 sec.  Well at least Pentax seems to be honest...

PJA> http://strobist.blogspot.com/2010/01/know-your-sync.html

PJA> Os so it seems to me.


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Re: Lost consecutive image file number after repair

[Bob Sullivan]

Ken,
Take your sd card out and over to your computer.
Rename the 0009 image to your last image number.
Put the sd card back into your camera and go.
Regards,  Bob S.

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> abouts during the repair.
>
> I remember some recent discussions on how to 'regain' the last number image
> file.
>
> Can some one forward that info?
>
> Thanks in advance.
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Re: Lost consecutive image file number after repair

[David Savage]

Copy your last shot onto a card, put in camera, take a shot and it
should pick up from there.

On 03/02/2010, Ken Waller  wrote:
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> abouts during the repair.
>
> I remember some recent discussions on how to 'regain' the last number image
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> Thanks in advance.
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Lost consecutive image file number after repair

[Ken Waller]

My newly repaired K20D had its image file numbers reset to zero or there 
abouts during the repair.


I remember some recent discussions on how to 'regain' the last number image 
file.


Can some one forward that info?

Thanks in advance.

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K20D repair

[Ken Waller]

Just got my K20D back from C.R.I.S. today. Fast service.

They received the camera on the 14th. I never was advised by them of their 
receipt and & initiated the contact & authorized the repair 19th, it was in 
repair on the 20th & shipped on the 26th.


Camera seems to be fine but I've lost the image file numbers - it was reset 
to 009 and all my custom settings.


BTW the cause of the 'hot pixel' was a defective ccd image sensor, which 
they returned to me - surprised at the weight of the assembly, probably the 
heaviest single item in the camera.



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Re: Redone GESO: Raleigh Snow

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On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 1:39 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> Finally figured out how to get them in the order I wanted them:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/sets/72157623196431539/

I especially like Fayetteville Street in Snow.

All are very good photos.

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Re: PESO - Film Noir

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On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:

> Yes - I'd agree with that.  Otherwise, excellent!

Thanks to everyone who looked and commented!

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Re: PAW4 - me again

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On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 5:12 PM, DagT  wrote:
> A self portrait I made at a meeting in Munich in November...
>
> http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
>
> K20D and DA* 55mm @ ISO800, f/1.4, 1/30s, hand held and using live view...

You look very pensive.

Well done!

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Re: OT: Photo Retouching by Waldo Lee

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On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:12 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

> oy

That about sums it up...

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Re: PESO - Speak No Evil

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I love the dog!

Dan

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 6:16 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> Took this one back in the summer - just noticed it now, looking
> through some old ones (for the PDML Annual, doncha know...):
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/02/speak-no-evil.html
>
> Hope you like.  Comments always welcome.
>
> It's finally snowing a bit - think I'll take a walk with a camera
> tonight, see if anything interesting happens.
>
> ;-)
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: Geso Haiti fund raiser at Pause Awhile Equestrian Centre

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 9:02 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> Here are some photos from the Pause Awhile Equestrian Centre fund
> raiser for the Red Cross efforts in Haiti
> .
> Photo 1850: Emma Woods and Gizzo jumping a fence
> Photo 1697: Simone Say's winners, it was a tie.(Princess Division)
> Photo 1711: Egg and Spoon participant (Queen Bee Division) not having
> a good go of it.
> Photo 8825; L-R: Krista Pollock, Farm Manager, John Chang, from Red
> Cross, Janet Cook, riding school manager. John Chang is seen here
> reading off to the crowd, the total raised for the day, $7814.30. The
> owners of PAEC matched what was raised and this is reflected in the
> total.
> Photo 8814: Erin Brooks sells Natale Woods tickets for a draw.
>
> Shane Pearson, an employee at PAEC suggested this event, which was
> embraced by the management, staff, riders and parents. A large number
> of prizes were donated for a silent auction and raffles. Some include:
> Mayfair Pools, Shane Pearson, Belinda Trussel(Olympic Dressage rider)
> LCBO, Good Life Fitness, and parents. Prizes included; iPods, car care
> packages, show trunks, various halters and other riding apparel. A pot
> luck lunch was served at $5.00 a plate.
>
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=953925

Hey, it's great when people can do something so worthwhile and still have fun!

I really like Dragon and Princess.  BTW, is that the Paperbag
Princess?  My kids all loved that picturebook when they were kids!

;-)

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RE: Interesting discussion of flash sync speeds at Strobist.

[John Sessoms]

From: "P. J. Alling"
There was a certian amount of Angst about the K-7 having a sync speed of 
only 1/180 sec.  Well at least Pentax seems to be honest...


http://strobist.blogspot.com/2010/01/know-your-sync.html

Os so it seems to me.


The last part about "Crank the Volume to 11" won't work with Pentax, 
will it?


The hot-shoe won't fire the strobe at greater than sync speeds, except 
for the "high-speed" sync mode on the AF-360FGZ or AF-540FGZ (which I 
haven't figured out yet).


Just tested the K10D (1/180 or less) and *ist-D (1/150 or less) with a 
"dumb flash" Vivitar 285HV and neither will fire the strobe at greater 
than sync speed.


I also tested the *ist-D using the PC sync, and it doesn't fire that at 
greater than sync speed either.


It's a good article though.

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Re: PESO - Dark, Snowy Commute

[Tom C]

Reminds me of my walk across the street in Annapolis, MD to the
Italian restaurant for a Trio Marsala take out, salad, and glass of
Chianti several hours ago.  Snowing here with about 1 inch in the last
2 hours.

This photo is interesting because it's simple and imperfect (sorry)
:-) - but it has an ambience and feeling to it, and I'm sure many can
relate. I enjoyed it.

Tom C.

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:55 PM, paul stenquist  wrote:
> The snowflakes make it interesting. A unique vision.
> We're getting some snow tonight as well-- the first in a week or so. At least 
> it's not quite so cold.
>
> Paul
> On Feb 2, 2010, at 9:40 PM, frank theriault wrote:
>
>> Taken a couple of hours ago.  Today's the first snow we've had in
>> weeks.  As you can see, it's just a frosting, but as Hugh Morton said,
>> "bad weather makes good photos":
>>
>> http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2010/02/dark-snowy-commute.html
>>
>> I'm not sure that this is a good photo, but the snow certainly makes
>> it more interesting, IMHO.
>>
>> Scroll down and click on photo to enlarge.
>>
>> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>>
>> cheers,
>> frank
>>
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Re: PESO: Emerging Buck

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I already cropped it quite a bit, but I think you are right.  I
especially should get rid of the white OOF snow in the upper right
corner.

Thanks for looking and thanks for the suggestion, Brian.

Dan

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:48 -0500, "Daniel J. Matyola"
>  wrote:
>> I caught a quick snap of this buck as he was emerging from the woods
>> near my home:
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10505316
>>
>
>
> Very nice, although I think the top quarter of the image detracts a bit
> from the overall quality of the image.  If it were mine I'd crop it
> tighter.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian

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Re: PESO: Emerging Buck

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks for looking and commenting everyone.

"Catch" is the proper term.  I had my camera in my car to take photos
at my Rotary meeting, so I had the wrong lens, and he was moving too
fast.  I just kept him in the viewfinder and just kept snapping.  This
was the only decent one.

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Cotty  wrote:
> On 2/2/10, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>I caught a quick snap of this buck as he was emerging from the woods
>>near my home:
>>
>>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10505316
>>
>>Dan
>
> Great catch Dan.
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Re: Question of English, American and otherwise

[Doug Franklin]

On 2010-02-02 21:10, John Sessoms wrote:


I've disagreed with bosses before. If they're wrong, they're wrong.

And I've done my share of following the bosses orders even when I knew
they were wrong.


I've always dealt with it the way the US military often does:  when the 
boss is planning, and asks my opinion, I give it; when the orders come 
down, I shut the hell up and do what I'm told.  And I never say "I told 
you so", though I think it often, and throw a wink at the boss in 
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Re: PESO - Dark, Snowy Commute

[paul stenquist]

The snowflakes make it interesting. A unique vision.
We're getting some snow tonight as well-- the first in a week or so. At least 
it's not quite so cold.

Paul
On Feb 2, 2010, at 9:40 PM, frank theriault wrote:

> Taken a couple of hours ago.  Today's the first snow we've had in
> weeks.  As you can see, it's just a frosting, but as Hugh Morton said,
> "bad weather makes good photos":
> 
> http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2010/02/dark-snowy-commute.html
> 
> I'm not sure that this is a good photo, but the snow certainly makes
> it more interesting, IMHO.
> 
> Scroll down and click on photo to enlarge.
> 
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
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PESO - Dark, Snowy Commute

[frank theriault]

Taken a couple of hours ago.  Today's the first snow we've had in
weeks.  As you can see, it's just a frosting, but as Hugh Morton said,
"bad weather makes good photos":

http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2010/02/dark-snowy-commute.html

I'm not sure that this is a good photo, but the snow certainly makes
it more interesting, IMHO.

Scroll down and click on photo to enlarge.

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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Re: English, American version

[frank theriault]

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:30 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> From: Tom C

> "Politically incorrect" is a pleonasm; use of an unnecessary word that is
> implicit in the word it describes:
>
> A round circle. A big giant. Politically incorrect.

A polite Canadian.

Except Bill Robb of course...

;-)

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Re: PESO - pond

[frank theriault]

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Tom C  wrote:
> She probably tried to blur it, but lacking the experience, failed.

Amateur!

Wait.  I'm an amateur, too...

cheers,
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ps:  but not an amateur when it comes to blur!

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Re: Spot the Pentax

[frank theriault]

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Bob W  wrote:
> No, no - that Pentax will bring the used camera market back to life, and is
> probably responsible for the increase in hits on Mark's Pentax manuals site.

Oh great!  That'll just drive up the prices of those beautiful used
Pentax and Takumar lenses!

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Re: Spot the Pentax

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On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>
> 

Pentax?  What Pentax?  Can't take my eyes off Carey Mulligan.

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Re: Question of English, American and otherwise

[Tom C]

I've found they forget pretty quick (usually), there's always someone
who doesn't accept the negative light even when it's their doing... I
make it a point never to say I told you so.  I just calmly outline the
fix, estimate the time it will take, and proceed when given the green
light.

It often means they more willing to listen the next time around.

I used to hate this game when I was half as young as I am now.  Now I
understand the objective AND the rules. :-)

Tom C.



On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:10 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> From: Leon Altoff
>>
>> John,
>>
>> You make the points I was wanting to make, thanks for saving me the
>> effort.
>>
>> I would point out that even if it is your boss tha is making the
>> suggestion you can still argue with it (I have several times and often
>> win the discussion).  The boss always has the option to say "Do it
>> anyway.", but at least my concerns were raised.
>>
>> Mind you Australians tend to be direct.
>
> I've disagreed with bosses before. If they're wrong, they're wrong.
>
> And I've done my share of following the bosses orders even when I knew they
> were wrong. Seems like the only time disagreeing with the boss comes back to
> haunt you is when you're right and he's wrong.
>
> They'll forgive you if you screw up, but they *NEVER* forget, never forgive
> when they screw up by not following your suggestion.
>

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Re: Question of English, American and otherwise

[John Sessoms]

From: Leon Altoff

John,

You make the points I was wanting to make, thanks for saving me the effort.

I would point out that even if it is your boss tha is making the
suggestion you can still argue with it (I have several times and often
win the discussion).  The boss always has the option to say "Do it
anyway.", but at least my concerns were raised.

Mind you Australians tend to be direct.


I've disagreed with bosses before. If they're wrong, they're wrong.

And I've done my share of following the bosses orders even when I knew 
they were wrong. Seems like the only time disagreeing with the boss 
comes back to haunt you is when you're right and he's wrong.


They'll forgive you if you screw up, but they *NEVER* forget, never 
forgive when they screw up by not following your suggestion.


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Re: PESO - Speak No Evil

[paul stenquist]

A nice sidewalk story. An interesting photo.
Paul

On Feb 2, 2010, at 6:16 PM, frank theriault wrote:

> Took this one back in the summer - just noticed it now, looking
> through some old ones (for the PDML Annual, doncha know...):
> 
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/02/speak-no-evil.html
> 
> Hope you like.  Comments always welcome.
> 
> It's finally snowing a bit - think I'll take a walk with a camera
> tonight, see if anything interesting happens.
> 
> ;-)
> 
> cheers,
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Re: PESO -- Blue Light

[paul stenquist]

What Frank said. A nice composition.
Paul
On Feb 2, 2010, at 8:54 PM, frank theriault wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 3:57 PM, P. J. Alling  
> wrote:
>> Waterfire at Providence RI November 2009
>> 
>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20bluelight.html
>> 
>> Equipment Pentax K20D/w smc Pentax A 24mm f2.8.
> 
> I really like your perspective on this one.  Lovely, the way the
> pyres (or bonfires or whatever they are) and their reflections on the
> river drift off into the distance.  Well exposed and I like the dof,
> too.
> 
> Very cool photo!
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Re: PESO -- Blue Light

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On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 3:57 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> Waterfire at Providence RI November 2009
>
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20bluelight.html
>
> Equipment Pentax K20D/w smc Pentax A 24mm f2.8.

 I really like your perspective on this one.  Lovely, the way the
pyres (or bonfires or whatever they are) and their reflections on the
river drift off into the distance.  Well exposed and I like the dof,
too.

Very cool photo!

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Re: PESO: Emerging Buck

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On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Cotty  wrote:

> Great catch Dan.

Yes!

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Interesting discussion of flash sync speeds at Strobist.

[P. J. Alling]

There was a certian amount of Angst about the K-7 having a sync speed of 
only 1/180 sec.  Well at least Pentax seems to be honest...


http://strobist.blogspot.com/2010/01/know-your-sync.html

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Re: High ISO - Kx further inquiries

[Igor Roshchin]

Bruce, I share your point of view.

I found a similar situation with photographing swing dances.
For a dance shot, f/4 is about as shallow DOF as you want to go.
I find 17-70/4 is very suitable for this. (It also gives a little bit
of the longer end, - which is occasionally handy, but you loose on
the wide end)

Taking photographs at tango events is different. 
On one hand, some of them do not allow flash, - on another hand,
you get more "slow moments" in the dance, when they hit a "line",
especially in performances.
One is forced (and occasionally can) go to larger apertures, and
goes for higher ISOs.
Even in those cases, the shallow DOF at 1.4 can be a problem.
(IIRC, when I tried my FA50/1.4 I was getting better results 
closing it to 1.7 - but by no means it was a good, well defined test.)

However, I decided that for the majority of cases, fast (and visually
confirmed) multi-segment AF (of K-7) is more important to me than
the higher ISO. Hence, between K-7 and K-x, I chose K-7 for now.

I am tempted to try Nikon D200 or something like that at the next
tango event, if I would be able to get my hands on one.

Igor

Mon Feb 1 20:54:11 CST 2010
Bruce Dayton wrote:

I have shot this venue the last two years so I know what I am up
against.  The only way to shoot it is with a wide to short tele zoom
- basically the DA* 16-50 works extremely well.  Since I have it and
used it last year, that is the lens of choice.  For this particular
use, AF will probably not be used much.  These are team competitions
where each member of the team does the same basic thing one after the
other.  So you would have 10 kids vault one after the other.
Literally seconds apart.  So you pre-focus on a spot and fire as each
one passes through.

I do get the run of the floor so I can move around, hence little need
for a long lens.  But for other basketball shots and evening soccer,
continuous AF would be important.

Several have mentioned a superfast lens like 1.2 - 1.8 - the issue
with that aside from no zoom capability is that I don't want to shoot
with so little DOF - f4 is about as fast as I want to shoot.

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Re: PESO: Emerging Buck

[Brian Walters]

On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:48 -0500, "Daniel J. Matyola"
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> I caught a quick snap of this buck as he was emerging from the woods
> near my home:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10505316
> 


Very nice, although I think the top quarter of the image detracts a bit
from the overall quality of the image.  If it were mine I'd crop it
tighter.



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Re: PESO - Speak No Evil

[Brian Walters]

On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:16 -0500, "frank theriault"
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> Took this one back in the summer - just noticed it now, looking
> through some old ones (for the PDML Annual, doncha know...):
> 
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/02/speak-no-evil.html
> 
> Hope you like. 


Yes, indeed!

Lots in that one to hold the viewer's interest.  Well rendered too.

Should be on the short list for the annual.


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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

[Tom C]

Yup, he drowned in his teapee.

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM, paul stenquist  wrote:
>
> On Feb 2, 2010, at 6:41 PM, Tom C wrote:
>
>> What happened to the Indian that drank 40 cups of tea?
>
> teapee?
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>>> So, they sat and insipid tea, eh..
>>>
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> Jack
>>>
>>> --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Cotty  wrote:
>>>
 From: Cotty 
 Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I
 To: "pentax list" 
 Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 2:38 PM
 If this were to happen in the UK, the
 retailer would apologise profusely
 for the mistake and let the purchaser have the item at the
 wrong price.

 Then the purchaser would apologise even more profusely and
 say that he
 couldn't possibly accept that my dear chap.

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Re: PESO - Speak No Evil

[Jack Davis]

I'd title this one, "excuse me!" 
Well seen, Frank.


Jack

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> From: frank theriault 
> Subject: PESO - Speak No Evil
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 3:16 PM
> Took this one back in the summer -
> just noticed it now, looking
> through some old ones (for the PDML Annual, doncha
> know...):
> 
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/02/speak-no-evil.html
> 
> Hope you like.  Comments always welcome.
> 
> It's finally snowing a bit - think I'll take a walk with a
> camera
> tonight, see if anything interesting happens.
> 
> ;-)
> 
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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

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On Feb 2, 2010, at 6:41 PM, Tom C wrote:

> What happened to the Indian that drank 40 cups of tea?

teapee?
> 
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> So, they sat and insipid tea, eh..
>> 
>> ;-)
>> 
>> Jack
>> 
>> --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Cotty  wrote:
>> 
>>> From: Cotty 
>>> Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I
>>> To: "pentax list" 
>>> Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 2:38 PM
>>> If this were to happen in the UK, the
>>> retailer would apologise profusely
>>> for the mistake and let the purchaser have the item at the
>>> wrong price.
>>> 
>>> Then the purchaser would apologise even more profusely and
>>> say that he
>>> couldn't possibly accept that my dear chap.
>>> 
>>> Then it's time for tea.
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>>   Cotty
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Re: FA 28-70 F4 on digital?

[Mark Roberts]

Christian wrote:

>I had one and used it for quite some time on the old *ist D and loved 
>the results.  I've got a few nice scenics that I shot with it.  One 
>thing I miss about Pentax DSLRs is that the "low-end" zooms like the FA 
>28-70/4 are far superior to the low-end glass available from Canon.

Bernie's Camera in Pittsburgh had two FA 28-70/4.0 new in the box last
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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

[Tom C]

What happened to the Indian that drank 40 cups of tea?

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> So, they sat and insipid tea, eh..
>
> ;-)
>
> Jack
>
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>> From: Cotty 
>> Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I
>> To: "pentax list" 
>> Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 2:38 PM
>> If this were to happen in the UK, the
>> retailer would apologise profusely
>> for the mistake and let the purchaser have the item at the
>> wrong price.
>>
>> Then the purchaser would apologise even more profusely and
>> say that he
>> couldn't possibly accept that my dear chap.
>>
>> Then it's time for tea.
>>
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>>
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Re: PESO: Emerging Buck

[Bob Sullivan]

Very nice Dan!  Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> I caught a quick snap of this buck as he was emerging from the woods
> near my home:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10505316
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Re: peso waitress with potatoes with Frank's suggestions

[frank theriault]

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Christine  Aguila
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> I do to.  Frank made some good suggestions.  Thanks, Frank!  Cheers,

YW!

;-)

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PESO - Speak No Evil

[frank theriault]

Took this one back in the summer - just noticed it now, looking
through some old ones (for the PDML Annual, doncha know...):

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/02/speak-no-evil.html

Hope you like.  Comments always welcome.

It's finally snowing a bit - think I'll take a walk with a camera
tonight, see if anything interesting happens.

;-)

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Re: PESO: Emerging Buck

[P N Stenquist]

Nice catch.
Paul
On Feb 2, 2010, at 5:48 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


I caught a quick snap of this buck as he was emerging from the woods
near my home:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10505316

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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

[Jack Davis]

So, they sat and insipid tea, eh..

;-)

Jack

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> From: Cotty 
> Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I
> To: "pentax list" 
> Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 2:38 PM
> If this were to happen in the UK, the
> retailer would apologise profusely
> for the mistake and let the purchaser have the item at the
> wrong price.
> 
> Then the purchaser would apologise even more profusely and
> say that he
> couldn't possibly accept that my dear chap.
> 
> Then it's time for tea.
> 
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Re: PESO: Emerging Buck

[Cotty]

On 2/2/10, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I caught a quick snap of this buck as he was emerging from the woods
>near my home:
>
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10505316
>
>Dan

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PESO: Emerging Buck

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I caught a quick snap of this buck as he was emerging from the woods
near my home:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10505316

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Re: Spot the Pentax

[Cotty]

On 2/2/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>

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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

[Cotty]

If this were to happen in the UK, the retailer would apologise profusely
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Then the purchaser would apologise even more profusely and say that he
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Re: Spot the Pentax

[Larry Colen]

Shouldn't that be  "Spot, the Pentax"?

  Cal Worthington

On Feb 2, 2010, at 12:27 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote:


Spotted. Thanks Bob!
Dario

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RE: PESO -- Blue Light

[Bob W]

> 
> Waterfire at Providence RI November 2009
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> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20bluelight.html
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> Equipment Pentax K20D/w smc Pentax A 24mm f2.8.
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> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

You "Handel"-ed that very well...



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RE: Spot the Pentax

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No, no - that Pentax will bring the used camera market back to life, and is
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Re: Second best bird

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Wow, that first one is wonderful

Dave

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Re: Spot the Pentax

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Looks liek we are relegated to props now.

Dave

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PESO -- Blue Light

[P. J. Alling]

Waterfire at Providence RI November 2009

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20bluelight.html

Equipment Pentax K20D/w smc Pentax A 24mm f2.8.

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Re: Spot the Pentax

[Dario Bonazza]

Spotted. Thanks Bob!
Dario

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Re: Second best bird

[Jos from Holland]

Beautifull photos..Thx for posting

And I donot care at all if they are real wildlife or tame models. :-)

Some of the eyes show a nice spark of light, I guess the on camera flash?

Greetz, Jos


Bob W wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8487031.stm



  


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RE: PESO - pond

[John Sessoms]

From: Sasha Sobol


http://decluttr.com/4323191136_white

critique is very welcome


I'm not sure what the subject is here. If it's the statue and the 
reflection, they don't really pop out for me.


If it's not the statue & reflection, they seem extraneous to me.

If it were my image, I'd crop closer on the left and bottom moving the 
statue & reflection closer to the lower left corner, keeping it as a 
verticle.


I'd also look for some way to make the statue & reflection pop out from 
the background a little more.


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Re: English, American version

[Jack Davis]

With your described mix of management levels, I believe you'd be safer by 
forming your recommendation as a question; "may I suggest.."

Jack

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> To: pdml@pdml.net
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> experienced in this specific kind of verbal kung-fu) and
> worked with both my parallels (system operator and IT person
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> some higher ranked boss whose true rank I fail to
> comprehend. My lame excuse was that in fact I was rather
> occupied all the time with the technical situation and
> simply said what I meant - that I suggest that in order to
> solve the problem they have they do this and don't do that.
> I indicated that they could do otherwise, but that we would
> advise them to stick to our suggestion as we think it is the
> optimal course of action at the moment. I specifically
> indicated that this was a temporary measure for the duration
> of their more important work. At then of this period (whose
> duration was given explicitly) they could return to their
> normal procedures.
> 
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> 
> Your customer has some process that is giving trouble in
> current circumstances. Your company is involved in making
> the process work properly.
> 
> You are presenting possible solutions to a group of peers
> and higher level management.
> 
> You laid out possible options for dealing with the problem
> and said "I suggest this specific option BECAUSE" ... based
> on your expertise, you believe it to be the optimal
> solution.
> 
> It seems to me, you are acting in the role of "consultant".
> Under the circumstances, your suggestions based on your
> expertise is exactly what you're customer is buying.
> 
> Given that context using the phrase "I suggest" is entirely
> appropriate.
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Re: English, American version

[P. J. Alling]

Except Politically Correct is different from Politics or Politically, 
and Correct, so it isn't really a neoplasm.


To do the "correct" thing is often at odds with the "politically 
correct", and to be "politic", is also often at odds with "political 
correctness", and correctness and politics are usually at odds with each 
other.


On 2/2/2010 12:44 PM, Tom C wrote:

You taught me a new word and it frequently describes my style of
communication. :-)

neoplasm:

1. the use of more words than are necessary to express an idea

Tom C.

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:30 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:
   

From: Tom C

 

If it's wrong to be politically incorrect, why is politics so screwed up?
   

"Politically incorrect" is a pleonasm; use of an unnecessary word that is
implicit in the word it describes:

A round circle. A big giant. Politically incorrect.

 


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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

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On 2/2/2010 11:55 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: "P. J. Alling"

It didn't cost the customer a penny, if you assume that the 
customer's time is worth nothing.


Well, I'm assuming his time is worth at least as much as the time 
that's been spent discussing it here.


This is fun, in an annoying sort of way, straightening out a sales 
problem is just annoying.


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Re: PESO -- Got the lead out.

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On 2/2/2010 12:46 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: "P. J. Alling"


I decided to take Ann's advice and try black and white.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/gottheleadoutb%26w.html

Notes:  Same technical data, but the rendition looked a little washed 
out on my laptop, and not exactly what I intended, so I darkened it a 
bit over all and kicked up the contrast just a bit.  Then used the 
Fotomatic B&W Plus Photoshop filter with a Red Filter applied.


Looking at it on my semi-uncalibrated laptop, the shadows look all 
blocked up.


I know, I actually prepared the color image on an old IBM G96 monitor 
and this on my Laptop.  Needless to say they render very differently on 
each system.  I know the IBM is problematic.


I've got to re-calibrate both systems, (and swap the NEC for the IBM, I 
managed to bung up the NEC's vidio cable and just managed to replace it).


 It would be nice if everyone's equipment rendered the same files the 
same way, but even calibrated this doesn't seem to be the case.  I've 
taken to opening images that look either too dark washed out in 
irfanview to adjust the gamma so I can see what the poster might have 
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Re: PESO - New College Chapel

[Sasha Sobol]

nice one

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:02 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> Very nice
>
> Dave
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
>> New College Chapel, Oxford:
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10610695
>>
>> (K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 800, f/4 @ 1/15)
>>
>> New College, incidentally, was established in 1379.  Brash young upstart.
>>
>> Rick
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Re: PESO coldest january in 13 years

[Toine]

Thanks everyone for watching and your nice comments.
Toine

On 30 January 2010 20:27, Toine  wrote:
> The Dutch weather forecasters claim we had the coldest january in 13
> years. It's not like we have a new ice age, reminds me how it used to
> be in the past.
>
> http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/115-cold
>
> K20D, DA12-24
>
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Re: PESO -- Got the lead out.

[John Sessoms]

From: "P. J. Alling"


I decided to take Ann's advice and try black and white.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/gottheleadoutb%26w.html

Notes:  Same technical data, but the rendition looked a little washed 
out on my laptop, and not exactly what I intended, so I darkened it a 
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Looking at it on my semi-uncalibrated laptop, the shadows look all 
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Re: PESO - shapes

[Sasha Sobol]

Thanks to everyone.
Brian, I do not visit this place (town) often, but when I will try to reshoot.
Frank, sorry about the photo being too large. It is not obvious, but
you can click on it to make it smaller.
Or just go to http://www.flickr.com/photos/31026...@n04/4317615801

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> Yes. Nice collection well seen.
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
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> - Original Message - From: "Sasha Sobol" 
> Subject: PESO - shapes
>
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>> http://decluttr.com/4317615801_white
>> Critique is welcome!
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --Sasha
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Re: English, American version

[Tom C]

You taught me a new word and it frequently describes my style of
communication. :-)

neoplasm:

1. the use of more words than are necessary to express an idea

Tom C.

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:30 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> From: Tom C
>
>> If it's wrong to be politically incorrect, why is politics so screwed up?
>
> "Politically incorrect" is a pleonasm; use of an unnecessary word that is
> implicit in the word it describes:
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> A round circle. A big giant. Politically incorrect.
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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

[Tom C]

I just bought a fine set of Canadian made speakers for my son several
months back.  Those, at least, came in a pair and were boxed as such.
I can see where it could lead to confusion because in general, for a
stereo application, a pair (or 2) of speakers would be desired (unless
one is totally deaf in one ear).

Tom C.

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> Sticking a probably completely unnecessary oar in here, but IIRC, this whole
> thing started with a guy buying stereo speakers.
>
> Sometime back in the vague dark reaches of history when I last bought stereo
> components, speakers were priced in "eaches". If you wanted a pair of
> speakers, you had to buy TWO "eaches" to get that pair.
>
> That's been the industry standard for quality audio component sales since I
> don't know when.
>
> So maybe B&H didn't handle this in the most diplomatic manner, but the way I
> see it, the guy thought he was going to get over on B&H, but they caught it
> before he did.
>
> And now he's pissed off because B&H didn't let him screw them.
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RE: English, American version

[John Sessoms]

From: "Bob W"


Wow! Perhaps English is becoming a language similar to (Diplomatic)
> > French. Zut Alors!
> >
> 
> The difference is that one can still get one's point across 
> in English if 
> one chooses succinct language.

> This has never been the case with French.
> 


Mes couilles!


... a dit la Reine. Si je les avais je serais Roi!

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Re: English, American version

[John Sessoms]

From: Boris Liberman

Here is my situation. I came as an engineer (think - Dilbert) along with 
the project manager (mid-to-high management, also non-native speaker, 
but probably more experienced in this specific kind of verbal kung-fu) 
and worked with both my parallels (system operator and IT person of the 
company we visited) and also lower-mid managers and some higher ranked 
boss whose true rank I fail to comprehend. My lame excuse was that in 
fact I was rather occupied all the time with the technical situation and 
simply said what I meant - that I suggest that in order to solve the 
problem they have they do this and don't do that. I indicated that they 
could do otherwise, but that we would advise them to stick to our 
suggestion as we think it is the optimal course of action at the moment. 
I specifically indicated that this was a temporary measure for the 
duration of their more important work. At then of this period (whose 
duration was given explicitly) they could return to their normal procedures.


To summarize:

Your customer has some process that is giving trouble in current 
circumstances. Your company is involved in making the process work properly.


You are presenting possible solutions to a group of peers and higher 
level management.


You laid out possible options for dealing with the problem and said "I 
suggest this specific option BECAUSE" ... based on your expertise, you 
believe it to be the optimal solution.


It seems to me, you are acting in the role of "consultant". Under the 
circumstances, your suggestions based on your expertise is exactly what 
you're customer is buying.


Given that context using the phrase "I suggest" is entirely appropriate.

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Re: OT: Photo Retouching by Waldo Lee

[ann sanfedele]

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


http://www.unstage.com/2010/02/photo-retouching-by-waldo-lee/

 


oy

ann


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The number three hit on my web site during January...

[Luiz Felipe]

.Mark has written...
.>Ira H. Bryant IV wrote:
.
.>On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:06:02 -0500
.>Mark Roberts  wrote:
.>
.>> ...is the PDF of the service manual for the Pentax ME.
.>> 6,661 views/downloads.
.>> 
.>> W... T... F?
.>> 
.>> :-)
.>> 
.>> Number 10 on the hit parade was the PDF service manual for the
.>> Spotmatic! (2,771 hits)
.>
.>One of them was me. I got an ME Super off craigslist for $10. While I
.>was looking for info on it, I ran acress the ME service manual on your
.>site and took a peek, just for fun.
.>
.>As for the other 6660... I dunno.
.
.Well, given that the first three digits are 666 I shudder to think.

...no, not my fault - matter of fact, every IP I tried for the last week is 
blocked... ):-/

Luiz Felipe
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Re: PESO - New College Chapel

[David J Brooks]

Very nice

Dave

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> New College Chapel, Oxford:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10610695
>
> (K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 800, f/4 @ 1/15)
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> Rick
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Re: PESO - pond

[David J Brooks]

Nice abstract shots

DAVE

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Re: PESO - The Real Thing

[David J Brooks]

I can see you never walk around with your eyes looking down.

Dave

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 10:21 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> Found in the doorway of an old variety store:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/02/real-thing.html
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.
>
> Leica CL/40mm Summicron/TriX.
>
> cheers,
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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

[John Sessoms]

From: "P. J. Alling"

It didn't cost the customer a penny, if you assume that the customer's 
time is worth nothing.


Well, I'm assuming his time is worth at least as much as the time that's 
been spent discussing it here.


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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

[John Sessoms]

Sticking a probably completely unnecessary oar in here, but IIRC, this 
whole thing started with a guy buying stereo speakers.


Sometime back in the vague dark reaches of history when I last bought 
stereo components, speakers were priced in "eaches". If you wanted a 
pair of speakers, you had to buy TWO "eaches" to get that pair.


That's been the industry standard for quality audio component sales 
since I don't know when.


So maybe B&H didn't handle this in the most diplomatic manner, but the 
way I see it, the guy thought he was going to get over on B&H, but they 
caught it before he did.


And now he's pissed off because B&H didn't let him screw them.

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Re: PESO - pond

[Ken Waller]

Certainly unique! Nice.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: "Sasha Sobol" 


Subject: PESO - pond



http://decluttr.com/4323191136_white

critique is very welcome



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Re: PESO - shapes

[Ken Waller]

Yes. Nice collection well seen.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: "Sasha Sobol" 

Subject: PESO - shapes



http://decluttr.com/4317615801_white
Critique is welcome!

Thanks,

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Re: English, American version

[John Sessoms]

From: Tom C


If it's wrong to be politically incorrect, why is politics so screwed up?


"Politically incorrect" is a pleonasm; use of an unnecessary word that 
is implicit in the word it describes:


A round circle. A big giant. Politically incorrect.

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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

[John Sessoms]

From: Mark Roberts


Tom C wrote:


>It's not paranoid.  I never expect a transaction to go south.  This is
>an interesting insight into how B&H apparently chooses to handle
>things in the case of a misunderstanding, one that they inadvertently
>caused.
>
>We each have the right to our own opinions, and I'm not alone in the
>one I hold.


Given the ratio of problematic transactions to trouble-free ones at
B&H, "paranoid" is precisely the correct word. You are certainly
entitled to your opinion but, as the history of the world demonstrates
with countless examples, not being alone in an opinion has never been
a particularly good defense of that opinion. Reality is not
susceptible to popular vote.


Just because you're "paranoid" doesn't mean THEY are not out to get you.

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Re: eyepiece rubber

[John Sessoms]

From: Bob Sullivan


Imagine you wear eye-glasses and don't want to scratch their plastic
lenses.  Bob S.

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 2:53 AM, Tim Bray  wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:

>> The little rubber shade that goes on the eyepiece dojobber on my k20 has
>> gotten torn mostly off.
>>
>> Any particular recommendations on where to get a replacement?

>
> Um, what's it for? ?Why is one needed? -T
>


It also helps to keep the diopter adjustment from getting bumped and 
changed accidentally.


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FA 28-70 F4 on digital?

[Luiz Felipe]

I have one of those, and have used it quite a while with the MX - until I got a 
DS with 18~55 last year. It's still in the 35mm bag, and scheduled to a series 
of trips to a rough area of the state.

Image quality is rather good, much better than Canon's 28~80, apart from a 
serious barrel distortion at its "wide" setting - which the DS reports as 31mm, 
not 28mm. Major drawback: the front element rotates as focus, so polarizers and 
graduated filters become a major pain. Much is written about the rear element 
separation, but since it's a fairly cheap lens in the US I'd buy it for full 
frame uses under the "light carry" gear cat. My sample has endured lots of 
abuse so far. Light falloff and edge resolution are no problem with APS 
sensors. Sadly the distortion remains there, a problem for me.

lf

original message follows:
I had one and used it for quite some time on the old *ist D and loved 
the results.  I've got a few nice scenics that I shot with it.  One 
thing I miss about Pentax DSLRs is that the "low-end" zooms like the FA 
28-70/4 are far superior to the low-end glass available from Canon.

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Sandy Harris wrote:
> I've got a KX and so far my most used lens is an A 35-70 F4. I'm quite
> happy with
> that. I also have DA 16-45 and screwmount 55/1.8, but 70% or more of shots use
> the 35-70.
> 
> Looking at the reviews:
> http://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/SMC-Pentax-FA-28-70-F4-Zoom-Lens.html
> It appears the 28-70 might be even better for me. Lighter, auto-focus,
> and a wider
> zoom range. What's not to like? KEH have one, ex+ for $119.
> 
> It seems worth asking here before taking that plunge. Anyone used this lens on
> digital? Can anyone compare this at 42-105 equivalent to the old 35-105 that
> was many people's favorite lens on film?
> 
> For that matter, has anyone got one to trade? The 16-45 is a fine lens, but 
> I'd
> happily trade it for the 28-70 and something else. First choice, 100/4 or 3.5
> macro, but anything that looks useful in a lightweight kit with KX and 28-70
> might be of interest. 50/1,4, 20 or 135 mm lens, 45-125 zoom, ...? Contact
> me off-list if this is of interest.
> 


Luiz Felipe
luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br
http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe

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Re: Peso: You lookin' at me?

[ann sanfedele]

Boris Liberman wrote:


Wow!!! You sure *saw* it. I did not...

Boris 


thanks!

You were multi-tasking :)  


ann






On 1/31/2010 11:12 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:


http://tinyurl.com/yglce4d


http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-New-York/2564371_i3HHm/1/776075473_h9ZL7/Medium 





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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom C"

Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I



I vote with my wallet.  Rewarding a retailer who engages in this type
of behavior, regardless of how many transactions are perfectly fine,
just goes against my grain.



You can be sure that now that they have opened that door, they will open it 
again when it suits them.
Unfortunately, they have made it rather difficult to trust their low prices 
as being anything other than a shell game.


William Robb 



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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

[Tom C]

I vote with my wallet.  Rewarding a retailer who engages in this type
of behavior, regardless of how many transactions are perfectly fine,
just goes against my grain.

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:51 AM, William Robb  wrote:
>
> - Original Message - From: "Tom C"
> Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I
>
>
> I'd like to reiterate that I have little doubt that the listing of the
> speakers as being sold as a PAIR was an honest mistake on the part of
> B&H.
>
> The simple, correct, and honest action to take was 1) honor the terms
> of the sale, and 2) correct the details on what is essentially the
> online fact tag for the SKU.
>
>
> Unfortunately, in this instance, B&H appears to have taken the simpler, but
> incorrect and dishonest approach on this one.
> We really should arrange an online funeral for their integrity.
>
> William Robb
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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom C"

Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I


I'd like to reiterate that I have little doubt that the listing of the
speakers as being sold as a PAIR was an honest mistake on the part of
B&H.

The simple, correct, and honest action to take was 1) honor the terms
of the sale, and 2) correct the details on what is essentially the
online fact tag for the SKU.


Unfortunately, in this instance, B&H appears to have taken the simpler, but 
incorrect and dishonest approach on this one.

We really should arrange an online funeral for their integrity.

William Robb 



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Re: PESO - New College Chapel

[Cotty]

On 1/2/10, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:

>New College Chapel, Oxford:
>
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10610695
>
>(K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 800, f/4 @ 1/15)
>
>New College, incidentally, was established in 1379.  Brash young upstart.

Really nice shot Rick, I like that a lot.

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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

[Tom C]

I'd like to reiterate that I have little doubt that the listing of the
speakers as being sold as a PAIR was an honest mistake on the part of
B&H.

The simple, correct, and honest action to take was 1) honor the terms
of the sale, and 2) correct the details on what is essentially the
online fact tag for the SKU.

Tom C.

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Tom C  wrote:
> Exactly!
>
> Tom C.
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:56 AM, William Robb  wrote:
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Tom C"
>> Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I
>>
>>
>>> How can you be confident he lied?  If I were the customer I may have
>>> *suspected* the advertised price or (PAIR) was mistake, but I also
>>> could have thought that this was a special deal and the retailer did
>>> indeed intend it.
>>
>> What does it matter if he lied about knowing what the adveetised price
>> should be?
>> How does this enter into anything?
>>
>> The fact that B&H lied about their pricing is much more germaine.
>>
>> Here's a scenario.
>> I don't know bugger all about stereo speakers. The last speakers I bought
>> were a set of Celestions back in the 1980s.
>> Apparently they are quite good, but I want something smaller now.
>> So I visit the B&H website to find a set of speakers that fits my price
>> range and is in a size range I can live with.
>> They have a set of speakers that is a known good brand, the size of the
>> boxes is right and the price is within my range, so I buy them.
>>
>> Then a couple of days later, B&H cancels the transaction and when I ask why
>> they call me a liar, and that the onus is on me to know that their pricing
>> is wrong.
>> How is their pricing my fault? When somone pushes the buy button, there
>> needs to be a presumption of good faith regadring the transaction. The
>> customer needs to know that the seller he is dealing with will act in good
>> faith, and will complete the transaction as advertised.
>> On eBay (for example) this is called a feedback system, and I distinctly
>> remember people on this very forum saying they wouldn't deal with a seller
>> who had less than perfect feedback.
>> In this instance, we have Reseller Ratings, which appears to be in B&H
>> Photo's pocket, in that they will take down negative feedback at B&H's
>> request.
>>
>> So, we now have B&H Photo who come off looking like a bunch of lying
>> scumbags, and a ratings company that is supposed to help customers avoid
>> companies that do precisely what B&H did allow themselves to be compromised
>> as well.
>> This may be more ado than it rates, but B&H has acted with an appalling lack
>> of integrity, and then compounded it by having their attack dog Posner bark
>> at the customer for taking umbrage with their dishonest business practice.
>>
>> William Robb
>>
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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

[Tom C]

Exactly!

Tom C.

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:56 AM, William Robb  wrote:
>
> - Original Message - From: "Tom C"
> Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I
>
>
>> How can you be confident he lied?  If I were the customer I may have
>> *suspected* the advertised price or (PAIR) was mistake, but I also
>> could have thought that this was a special deal and the retailer did
>> indeed intend it.
>
> What does it matter if he lied about knowing what the adveetised price
> should be?
> How does this enter into anything?
>
> The fact that B&H lied about their pricing is much more germaine.
>
> Here's a scenario.
> I don't know bugger all about stereo speakers. The last speakers I bought
> were a set of Celestions back in the 1980s.
> Apparently they are quite good, but I want something smaller now.
> So I visit the B&H website to find a set of speakers that fits my price
> range and is in a size range I can live with.
> They have a set of speakers that is a known good brand, the size of the
> boxes is right and the price is within my range, so I buy them.
>
> Then a couple of days later, B&H cancels the transaction and when I ask why
> they call me a liar, and that the onus is on me to know that their pricing
> is wrong.
> How is their pricing my fault? When somone pushes the buy button, there
> needs to be a presumption of good faith regadring the transaction. The
> customer needs to know that the seller he is dealing with will act in good
> faith, and will complete the transaction as advertised.
> On eBay (for example) this is called a feedback system, and I distinctly
> remember people on this very forum saying they wouldn't deal with a seller
> who had less than perfect feedback.
> In this instance, we have Reseller Ratings, which appears to be in B&H
> Photo's pocket, in that they will take down negative feedback at B&H's
> request.
>
> So, we now have B&H Photo who come off looking like a bunch of lying
> scumbags, and a ratings company that is supposed to help customers avoid
> companies that do precisely what B&H did allow themselves to be compromised
> as well.
> This may be more ado than it rates, but B&H has acted with an appalling lack
> of integrity, and then compounded it by having their attack dog Posner bark
> at the customer for taking umbrage with their dishonest business practice.
>
> William Robb
>
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OT: Photo Retouching by Waldo Lee

[Daniel J. Matyola]

http://www.unstage.com/2010/02/photo-retouching-by-waldo-lee/

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Re: FA 28-70 F4 on digital?

[Christian]

I had one and used it for quite some time on the old *ist D and loved 
the results.  I've got a few nice scenics that I shot with it.  One 
thing I miss about Pentax DSLRs is that the "low-end" zooms like the FA 
28-70/4 are far superior to the low-end glass available from Canon.


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Sandy Harris wrote:

I've got a KX and so far my most used lens is an A 35-70 F4. I'm quite
happy with
that. I also have DA 16-45 and screwmount 55/1.8, but 70% or more of shots use
the 35-70.

Looking at the reviews:
http://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/SMC-Pentax-FA-28-70-F4-Zoom-Lens.html
It appears the 28-70 might be even better for me. Lighter, auto-focus,
and a wider
zoom range. What's not to like? KEH have one, ex+ for $119.

It seems worth asking here before taking that plunge. Anyone used this lens on
digital? Can anyone compare this at 42-105 equivalent to the old 35-105 that
was many people's favorite lens on film?

For that matter, has anyone got one to trade? The 16-45 is a fine lens, but I'd
happily trade it for the 28-70 and something else. First choice, 100/4 or 3.5
macro, but anything that looks useful in a lightweight kit with KX and 28-70
might be of interest. 50/1,4, 20 or 135 mm lens, 45-125 zoom, ...? Contact
me off-list if this is of interest.




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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom C"

Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I



How can you be confident he lied?  If I were the customer I may have
*suspected* the advertised price or (PAIR) was mistake, but I also
could have thought that this was a special deal and the retailer did
indeed intend it.


What does it matter if he lied about knowing what the adveetised price 
should be?

How does this enter into anything?

The fact that B&H lied about their pricing is much more germaine.

Here's a scenario.
I don't know bugger all about stereo speakers. The last speakers I bought 
were a set of Celestions back in the 1980s.

Apparently they are quite good, but I want something smaller now.
So I visit the B&H website to find a set of speakers that fits my price 
range and is in a size range I can live with.
They have a set of speakers that is a known good brand, the size of the 
boxes is right and the price is within my range, so I buy them.


Then a couple of days later, B&H cancels the transaction and when I ask why 
they call me a liar, and that the onus is on me to know that their pricing 
is wrong.
How is their pricing my fault? When somone pushes the buy button, there 
needs to be a presumption of good faith regadring the transaction. The 
customer needs to know that the seller he is dealing with will act in good 
faith, and will complete the transaction as advertised.
On eBay (for example) this is called a feedback system, and I distinctly 
remember people on this very forum saying they wouldn't deal with a seller 
who had less than perfect feedback.
In this instance, we have Reseller Ratings, which appears to be in B&H 
Photo's pocket, in that they will take down negative feedback at B&H's 
request.


So, we now have B&H Photo who come off looking like a bunch of lying 
scumbags, and a ratings company that is supposed to help customers avoid 
companies that do precisely what B&H did allow themselves to be compromised 
as well.
This may be more ado than it rates, but B&H has acted with an appalling lack 
of integrity, and then compounded it by having their attack dog Posner bark 
at the customer for taking umbrage with their dishonest business practice.


William Robb


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Re: PESO - shapes

[frank theriault]

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Sasha Sobol  wrote:
> http://decluttr.com/4317615801_white
> Critique is welcome!
>
> Thanks,

I do like it - well composed and lots of interesting geometrics to
keep my interest.

It's not very well sized for my screen - I have to scroll up and down
to see the whole thing.  Might be just me, though.

cheers,
frank

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Re: PESO - More snow

[frank theriault]

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Christian  wrote:
> Luckily I didn't have to drive 9 hours through it like the last time.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/y9zgnqk
>
> http://tinyurl.com/y8u3h3j
>
> Enjoy.

I really like the snowblower shot.

cheers,
frank, in Toronto where there's no snow at all (but at least it's
seasonably cold)

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Re: PESO - Projection

[frank theriault]

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> A backlit stained glass window projected onto a wall in Christ Church 
> Cathedral, Oxford.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10603019
>

Quite beautiful, Rick.

cheers,
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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

[Tom C]

How can you be confident he lied?  If I were the customer I may have
*suspected* the advertised price or (PAIR) was mistake, but I also
could have thought that this was a special deal and the retailer did
indeed intend it.

He didn't take it to his credit card company because he didn't want to
cancel the sale.  He wanted the deal that B&H advertised and for which
he received a receipt.

Tom

>>Mark Roberts wrote:
> *If* the events took place as the customer described. I'm confident
> the customer lied about not knowing the advertised price was a
> mistake, so I'm not certain how much of the rest of the story can be
> trusted. The fact that the customer *didn't* just take the dispute to
> his credit card company is just weird.
>

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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

[Tom C]

Bill, you've helped me condense my wordy rambling about this topic to
one basic thought.

A cardinal rule in all businesses is that the customer comes first.
Granted there could be an exceptional customer that deserves to get
the boot or who makes unreasonable demands.  In this case, resolving
the problem to the customer's satisfaction, in the big scheme of
things, was a rather small concession for B&H to make considering the
volume of business they do, the monetary amount, and the fact that the
mistake was theirs.

B&H did not put the customer first.

Tom C.

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:28 AM, William Robb  wrote:
> Mark, I've been in situations both as a customer and as a sales associate on
> the floor where mispriced goods are brought to the cash register. In every
> instance, the lower price, be it the one on the floor or the one that rings
> up is considered to be the correct price.
> The store takes the hit, fixes the pricing issue right away, and life goes
> on.
> What B&H did on their website is, more or less, the equivalent of putting
> the wrong price sticker onto a product on the shelf.
> The correct thing for them to have done is to honour the advertised price,
> take the hit, and correct the price as soon as they can.
> Just because it is an internet store, it doesn't mean that they should be
> doing anything fundamentally differently from any honest bricks and mortar
> store.
> Changing the price at the cash register is considered a very bad retail
> practice. I'm sure you remember that from working at the camera store.
> It really is an accountability issue, and I think quite a major one.
>
> William Robb
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Re: PESO - pond

[Tom C]

She probably tried to blur it, but lacking the experience, failed.

Tom C.

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 10:48 PM, frank theriault
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>
> How'd ya get the statue to be relatively sharp while everything else
> is blurred?
>
> I like it!  Very cool!
>
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Re: PESO - shapes

[Tom C]

I like it and agree with Brian that it would be starker and more
eye-popping without the tree shadows.  Nevertheless an entertaining an
interesting composition.  It makes my eyes wander all over the place
and explore it.

Tom C.

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 21:26 -0800, "Sasha Sobol"  wrote:
>> http://decluttr.com/4317615801_white
>> Critique is welcome!
>>
>
>
> I like the concept but it's spoiled a bit by the shadows from the nearby
> trees.  Any change of a repeat when the sun is in a different position?
>
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>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
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