Re: OT but Photography related

2010-04-18 Thread Brian Walters
On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 16:22 -0400, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Irony
 
 http://americandigest.org/sidelines/orwellpix.html
 


Ah... a public authority with a sense of humour.  Rare indeed!


Cheers

Brian

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RE: Paris

2010-04-18 Thread Bob W
 Some photos from my trip to Paris earlier this week. Hope you find 
 some to enjoy - comments welcome.
 
 http://www.web-options.com/Paris2010/
 
 
 
 That was a nice trip Bob, thanks!
 
 
 YEs - and I'm envious... but why did you go to Paris when you 
 could come to Chicago ???:) ann
 

Chicago might well have been cheaper...

However, you don't have to fly through a volcanic cloud to get to Paris. OMG
- we're all going to die like the dinosaurs and the Pompeians!



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RE: PDML Photo Annual on line now

2010-04-18 Thread Bob W
 I'm still re-installing all my apps after replacing my dead 
 hard drive, so you won't be hearing much from me for a while. 
 But I did take time to make the book available :)
 
 http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/1286080
 

Did I read somewhere that there will be signed copies available at the
exhibition? If so I'll ask Chris to pick one up for me; otherwise I'll order
later today.

Bob


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Volcano information

2010-04-18 Thread AlunFoto
Gang,
I thought this link might be of interest. At least to anyone traveling
to or from Europe in the weeks to come, whether to Chicago or
elsewhere.
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2010/volcano.html

Norwegian Airspace authority, Avinor, states on their webpages that
decisions are made based on services from the UK MET office, so it
probably has relevance for most of Western Europe.

Jostein

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Re: L'Etre et le néant, that is the question

2010-04-18 Thread David Mann
On Apr 17, 2010, at 10:26 PM, Bob W wrote:

 It's already set up that way. Anything incoming with an invalid To: address
 is just ignored.

Ah, good, I hoped you had but wanted to make 100% sure as it's easy to get 
bitten.  I've also been bitten by a couple of spammers using one of my domains 
as a From: address... then I get 300 bounce messages in a day.  Hasn't happened 
for a while though (fingers crossed), I guess most sensible admins have now set 
their systems to black-hole invalid addresses.

 It's not a problem for me, except that Ann's provider is too dumb to
 recognise that the From: address is not related to the actual sending domain
 so they've blocked the domain on the From: address. They should be doing a
 reverse DNS lookup and blocking emails where there's a mismatch.

Yeah I've had to deal with this kind of crap at work a couple of times.  A 
provider should never use one single parameter to judge an email as spam.  Do 
you have an SPF record set up?  That might help in some cases but it's really a 
long shot.

Unfortunately you don't hold much sway over providers unless you're the size of 
ebay.  Heck, even our own spam filter at work tends to delay or block emails 
that I send myself when testing web apps.

Personally I think the whole email system needs to be redesigned from the 
ground up.  But I don't want to be the poor sucker who gets to do it as no 
matter what you do you'll break some legacy system somewhere.

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Re: GESO: My headphone stand

2010-04-18 Thread David Mann
On Apr 18, 2010, at 3:07 AM, Keith Whaley wrote:

 I appreciated the education about the Mâori names.
 I just can’t let stuff like that go by unnoticed. What with Google, I don’t
 have to anymore!  :-)

I think I detect a hint of sarcasm :)

Rimu is a native species of tree which is prized for furniture but you're not 
allowed to cut it down anymore.  Rimu is now either imported or recycled from 
old furniture  buildings so our trees can stay in the forests where they 
belong (just like Kauri which is even more valuable).

Oamaru stone is a limestone named after the location where it's found.  Oamaru 
is a town just north of Dunedin.  The famous Moeraki Boulders are also in that 
area.  I could look up the meanings of these place names but I'm too lazy ;)

Cheers,
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Re: Volcano information

2010-04-18 Thread AlunFoto
... And I just discovered NASA's photostream on Flickr, with a gallery
dedicated to satellite photos of the ash plume:
Quite cool, even for a non-Pentax camera. :-)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gsfc/sets/72157623862023918/with/4524065788/

Jostein


2010/4/18 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com:
 Gang,
 I thought this link might be of interest. At least to anyone traveling
 to or from Europe in the weeks to come, whether to Chicago or
 elsewhere.
 http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2010/volcano.html

 Norwegian Airspace authority, Avinor, states on their webpages that
 decisions are made based on services from the UK MET office, so it
 probably has relevance for most of Western Europe.

 Jostein

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Re: GESO: My headphone stand

2010-04-18 Thread David Mann
On Apr 18, 2010, at 2:48 AM, eckinator wrote:

 Very nice but please use Photoshop to align the screws in some nice
 pattern - they literally screw your project =P

Yeah I was thinking about that but I was more concerned with getting them all 
flush with the surface.  Sorry about that :)  It would have been pretty hard to 
coordinate them perfectly... maybe I should have just loosened them for the 
photo.

 Very nice job indeed. I'm gonna have to build one all black and
 plasticky for my Stax; thanks for the inspiration =/

I've always been curious about Stax but I don't like the idea of having what's 
essentially an AF radio transmitter on each side of my head.

I also have my old Sennheisers sitting around so maybe I'll make a stand for 
them too...

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Re: GESO: My headphone stand

2010-04-18 Thread David Mann
On Apr 18, 2010, at 12:06 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

 Like the image produced by the straight on shot. Complimented by the 
 background.

That's the back of one of our couches.  About the best spot I could find at the 
time :)

Cheers,
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Re: PDML Exhibit Postcard JPegs

2010-04-18 Thread AlunFoto
Have one for me too, guys!
Jostein

2010/4/18 Bob W p...@web-options.com:
 [...]
 As it happens I'm hoping to meet Bob tomorrow - our son Pete
 has just moved into a house share in Greenwich, just round
 the corner from Bob, and we're going down so we may have lunch...

 And a pint...

 Or 2...

 If I can persuade Karin to drive home...

 We could try one of each from the beer menu:
 http://www.oldbrewerygreenwich.com/beer/



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Re: GESO: My headphone stand

2010-04-18 Thread David Mann
On Apr 17, 2010, at 10:13 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

 On 17/04/2010, David Mann dm...@bluemoon.net.nz wrote:
 
 My amplifier is a fairly simple transistor-based class A amplifier which is 
 probably a little overbuilt for what it needs to drive.
 
 Probably only overbuilt if the quiescent power is more than 100W ;-)

Closer to 15W, IIRC.  I think that's overkill enough.

It's built in a dual mono configuration with quite a lot of energy storage... 
the thing I like about audio projects is that no matter how over the top you 
go, someone out there will still understand.

Cheers,
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Re: Goddamn Micro$oft

2010-04-18 Thread David Mann
On Apr 18, 2010, at 6:49 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

 ... and fuck Adobe too.
 
 Stupid ASSHOLES!

You sound like our web designer at work, and your reasons are probably just as 
valid as his.

He finally got a computer upgrade a couple of weeks ago after a couple of years 
of desperate need.

His old Photoshop CS sort-of worked in Windows 7.  I got it to run for a couple 
of days by setting it to run in XP compatibility mode.  Then it started giving 
the old warnings again.

Within a couple of days the shiny shiny aspect of Win 7 wore off and he's 
just wanting to get work done but all the shit is getting in the way.

Then we realised that CS5 was about to be released... and you can only 
upgrade from three versions back.  So we quickly ordered a CS4 upgrade 
license.  Unfortunately we bought a single-user upgrade when our CS package was 
a multi-user license, so it fails the license check.  We haven't sorted that 
one out yet.  He's already lost half a day of productivity on the phone to 
Adobe support.

I hate computers.

Cheers,
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Re: Boris PESO #17 (Tel A-cat)

2010-04-18 Thread David Mann
On Apr 18, 2010, at 4:57 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

 Hi!
 
 The cat is not that big really...
 
 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/04/peso-2010-17.html

I like how the shadows line up from the trees and the chain fence.  Makes it 
look like there are decorations hanging above.

Regarding the cat (and the bike), you should take Capa's advice ;)

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Re: Paris

2010-04-18 Thread David Mann
On Apr 18, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Bob W wrote:

 However, you don't have to fly through a volcanic cloud to get to Paris. OMG
 - we're all going to die like the dinosaurs and the Pompeians!

I doubt it's as much of a safety issue as a what does it cost to replace all 
the engines and leading edges on all our planes after we run them through 
nature's great sandblaster issue.

They'd just about be better off handing out a 645D to each passenger.

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RE: Paris

2010-04-18 Thread Bob W
  However, you don't have to fly through a volcanic cloud to get to 
  Paris. OMG
  - we're all going to die like the dinosaurs and the Pompeians!
 
 I doubt it's as much of a safety issue as a what does it 
 cost to replace all the engines and leading edges on all our 
 planes after we run them through nature's great sandblaster issue.
 
 They'd just about be better off handing out a 645D to each passenger.

We're all gonna end up like this:
http://museumvictoria.com.au/pages/3575/gallery/pompeii.jpg


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RE: Boris PESO #17 (Tel A-cat)

2010-04-18 Thread Bob W

  The cat is not that big really...
  
  http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/04/peso-2010-17.html
 
 I like how the shadows line up from the trees and the chain 
 fence.  Makes it look like there are decorations hanging above.
 
 Regarding the cat (and the bike), you should take Capa's advice ;)
 

It's not enough to have talent, you also have to be Hungarian ?



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Re: GESO: My headphone stand

2010-04-18 Thread Michael Beacom


On Apr 18, 2010, at 6:10 AM, David Mann wrote:


On Apr 17, 2010, at 10:13 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:


On 17/04/2010, David Mann dm...@bluemoon.net.nz wrote:

My amplifier is a fairly simple transistor-based class A  
amplifier which is probably a little overbuilt for what it needs  
to drive.


Probably only overbuilt if the quiescent power is more than 100W ;-)


Closer to 15W, IIRC.  I think that's overkill enough.

It's built in a dual mono configuration with quite a lot of energy  
storage... the thing I like about audio projects is that no matter  
how over the top you go, someone out there will still understand.


You can never have enough headroom. Or be too rich.

Cheers
Mike


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Re: Boris PESO #17 (Tel A-cat)

2010-04-18 Thread Boris Liberman
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 It's not enough to have talent, you also have to be Hungarian ?

One of my bosses speaks basic Hungarian. Will that do?


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Re: GESO: My headphone stand

2010-04-18 Thread eckinator
2010/4/18 David Mann dm...@bluemoon.net.nz:

 I've always been curious about Stax but I don't like the idea of having 
 what's essentially an AF radio transmitter on each side of my head.

I like their sound a lot, it is crisp, clean, precisely modulated but
not to the point of being unforgiving. They are a nice contrast to my
Consequence Audio Olivia / Images loudspeakers (D'Appolito design,
SEAS chassis) which are built completely with classical and jazz in
mind and sound warmer and more vibrant. To be honest, I've thus far
ignored the technology of the headphones. I traded an old Kenwood
KT-880 tuner for them when the content qualitative decline of my
preferred radio stations really took hold and my BeyerDynamic
headphones began to disintegrate (the softener in the earshells turned
them into crackly, sticky goo plus the left ear cable had cracked.

I listen to more radio again now but it is different styles of music
these days. Around here you get two half decent jazz stations, one
informed classical, one multicultural/alternative and all the rest is
either news or heavy rotation elevator / charts pop / oldie but gooey
/ whatnot. In fact the leading local pop station Radio Hamburg calls a
listener panel with every prospective new track (nothing that's never
been Top 10 either), they never replace more than 30 and never play
more than 180 tracks in any given month. And their jingle is More
diverstiy - can you believe that?

Cheers
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Re: PDML Exhibit Postcard JPegs

2010-04-18 Thread eckinator
Have at least 20 for me if you take a shot at the menu =)
Cheers
Ecke

2010/4/18 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com:
 Have one for me too, guys!
 Jostein

 2010/4/18 Bob W p...@web-options.com:
 [...]
 As it happens I'm hoping to meet Bob tomorrow - our son Pete
 has just moved into a house share in Greenwich, just round
 the corner from Bob, and we're going down so we may have lunch...

 And a pint...

 Or 2...

 If I can persuade Karin to drive home...

 We could try one of each from the beer menu:
 http://www.oldbrewerygreenwich.com/beer/



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Re: Boris PESO #17 (Tel A-cat)

2010-04-18 Thread eckinator
2010/4/17 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:
 Hi!

 The cat is not that big really...

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/04/peso-2010-17.html

In my country, a black cat crossing from the left is bad luck; seems
in Israel people shy away from cats coming from the right =)
Can't quite comment on the image, it is very accurately framed IMHO
but I have yet to form a view on it.
Thanks for sharing
Ecke

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Re: PAW14 - spring 2

2010-04-18 Thread eckinator
2010/4/13 Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com:
 [...] When I
 have a kid around I tend to only end up with kid pics, too distracting
 keeping an eye on them and some abstract subject ;-)

My problem precisely. Love your photo Dag, it is positively outstanding.
Cheers
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Re: PESO - The many and the one

2010-04-18 Thread Jack Davis
Extremely well rendered image. Tack sharp with great clarity.
Terrific shot!

Jack

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 From: Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com
 Subject: PESO - The many and the one
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, April 17, 2010, 10:17 PM
 I went out shooting with my oldest
 daughter (22) to have a little
 together time.  She used my K20D (likes it better than
 her *istD) and
 I used the K-x.
 
 The Many:
 Pentax K-x, Tamron 90/2.8 Macro
 ISO 200, 1/200 sec @ f/8, Handheld
 
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto-1.htm
 
 
 The One:
 Pentax K-x, Tamron 90/2.8 Macro
 ISO 200, 1/400 sec @ f/5.6, Handheld
 
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto-6.htm
 
 Comments welcome.
 
 
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Re: Goddamn Micro$oft

2010-04-18 Thread Sandy Harris
On 4/18/10, David Mann dm...@bluemoon.net.nz wrote:

 On Apr 18, 2010, at 6:49 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

   ... and fuck Adobe too.

  His old Photoshop CS sort-of worked in Windows 7.
  I got it to run for a couple of days by setting it to run in XP 
 compatibility mode.  ...

  ... we bought a single-user upgrade when our CS package was a
 multi-user license, so it fails the license check.  ...

Not that it would solve all problems, but why not switch to Open Source?
That would at least avoid the license nonsenses.

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PESO - At the Lake

2010-04-18 Thread frank theriault
I told you I recently moved.  The new 'hood is a bit different from
the last.  This was the view yesterday morning from the bottom of my
street:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/04/at-lake.html

No graffiti in sight...

;-)

Hope you like.  Comments always welcome.

cheers,
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Pentax Spotting - Milk

2010-04-18 Thread frank theriault
Saw Milk with Sean Penn yesterday on DVD (tremendous performance by
Penn - definitely Oscar-worthy).  Several scenes with clicking
cameras, many of which were Spotmatics.

Cool.

Also loved Harvey's Leica in the early scenes...

Great movie.  Watch it if you haven't already.

cheers,
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Re: PESO - The many and the one

2010-04-18 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Extremely well rendered image. Tack sharp with great clarity.
 Terrific shot!

Agreed.  Wonderful light.

cheers,
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Re: PAW14 - spring 2

2010-04-18 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 3:04 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote:
 http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html

 K20D, DA*16-50 @50mm, 1/90s, f/4.5, ISO200

YEAH!!

One of the best I've seen anywhere in a long time.

GREAT photo!

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Re: Boris PESO #17 (Tel A-cat)

2010-04-18 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi!

 The cat is not that big really...

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/04/peso-2010-17.html

 CC brutal and honest as usual sought...


The cat brings interest to what would otherwise have been a rather
banal streetscape.

Well captured!

cheers,
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Re: GESO: My headphone stand

2010-04-18 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 12:19 AM, David Mann dm...@bluemoon.net.nz wrote:
 Don't take this as being any kind of artistic photo gallery, it's just a 
 bunch of quick photos I took of my new headphone stand.  It's a small garage 
 project I've been working on since Easter and I just finished it off this 
 afternoon.

 http://www.multi.net.nz/headphone-stand/

 I'd been wanting to build this since I finished the headphone amplifier* 
 about a year ago.  My original plans were for something more along the lines 
 of a sculpture but that would have been really hard.  At least my headphones 
 have somewhere to rest now instead of sitting atop the CD player.

 (*) Yes, it's an amplifier built just for headphones.  Good ones can be quite 
 expensive.

 BTW scroll saws are wonderful :)

Impressive!

And beautiful, too...

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Re: PESO - The Negotiation

2010-04-18 Thread Cory Waters

nice

On 4/16/2010 9:48 PM, frank theriault wrote:

I'd love to go back to your place, but that thing doesn't have a bike rack...

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/04/negotiation.html

Hope you enjoy.

Comments always welcome.

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Re: PESO - The Negotiation

2010-04-18 Thread eckinator
2010/4/17 Bob W p...@web-options.com:
 What's not to like?

 Well, the caption maybe - I'd be a bit annoyed by it if I was one of the
 people in the picture.

Arguably so but imagine the following caption instead and you'll see
Frank's wasn't so bad:
Hey, nice rack Yeah, pity you don't have one too or I might come
back to your place :)

I do think though that this was written with mainly a pro bike
attitude in the first place.
Cheers
Ecke

BTW Nice catch, Frank!

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Re: Goddamn Micro$oft

2010-04-18 Thread AlunFoto
2010/4/18 Sandy Harris sandyinch...@gmail.com:
 Not that it would solve all problems, but why not switch to Open Source?
 That would at least avoid the license nonsenses.

I believe OpenSource DTP software would create more problems than it solved. :-(

-Based on experience with Scribus...

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Re: PESO - At the Lake

2010-04-18 Thread Jack Davis
Nice exposure, Frank! DoF just right. :)

Jack

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 From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com
 Subject: PESO - At the Lake
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, April 18, 2010, 5:25 AM
 I told you I recently moved. 
 The new 'hood is a bit different from
 the last.  This was the view yesterday morning from
 the bottom of my
 street:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/04/at-lake.html
 
 No graffiti in sight...
 
 ;-)
 
 Hope you like.  Comments always welcome.
 
 cheers,
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Re: Volcano information

2010-04-18 Thread Paul Sorenson
Looks like if you take a train to Madrid or Rome, it should be no 
problem flying to Chicago... ;-)


-p

On 4/18/2010 4:23 AM, AlunFoto wrote:

Gang,
I thought this link might be of interest. At least to anyone traveling
to or from Europe in the weeks to come, whether to Chicago or
elsewhere.
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2010/volcano.html

Norwegian Airspace authority, Avinor, states on their webpages that
decisions are made based on services from the UK MET office, so it
probably has relevance for most of Western Europe.

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Re: PAW14 - spring 2

2010-04-18 Thread DagT
Den 18. apr. 2010 kl. 13.57 skrev eckinator:

 2010/4/13 Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com:
 [...] When I
 have a kid around I tend to only end up with kid pics, too distracting
 keeping an eye on them and some abstract subject ;-)
 
 My problem precisely. Love your photo Dag, it is positively outstanding.
 Cheers
 Ecke


In my view, this is a kid picture :-)

Thanks!

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Re: PAW14 - spring 2

2010-04-18 Thread DagT
Den 18. apr. 2010 kl. 14.34 skrev frank theriault:

 On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 3:04 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote:
 http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
 
 K20D, DA*16-50 @50mm, 1/90s, f/4.5, ISO200
 
 YEAH!!
 
 One of the best I've seen anywhere in a long time.
 
 GREAT photo!
 
 cheers,
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Thanks! I´ll show you in a moment why I have to keep an eye on them...

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PAW15 - Boys...

2010-04-18 Thread DagT
http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
K20D, DA*55, 1/60s, f/4.0, ISO800

I suddenly noticed that the link to the most recent PAW is always the same. The 
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Re: Pentax Spotting - Milk

2010-04-18 Thread P N Stenquist


On Apr 18, 2010, at 8:32 AM, frank theriault wrote:


Saw Milk with Sean Penn yesterday on DVD (tremendous performance by
Penn - definitely Oscar-worthy).  Several scenes with clicking
cameras, many of which were Spotmatics.

And Sean didn't punch the photographers? Guess he really was in  
character:-)

Paul

BTW, saw American Gangster on the tube last night. Lots of Pentax  
cameras in that flick as well.




Cool.

Also loved Harvey's Leica in the early scenes...

Great movie.  Watch it if you haven't already.

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Re: Goddamn Micro$oft

2010-04-18 Thread P N Stenquist


On Apr 18, 2010, at 9:10 AM, AlunFoto wrote:


2010/4/18 Sandy Harris sandyinch...@gmail.com:
Not that it would solve all problems, but why not switch to Open  
Source?

That would at least avoid the license nonsenses.


I believe OpenSource DTP software would create more problems than it  
solved. :-(


-Based on experience with Scribus...

You definitely don't want to go there if you're running a business and  
have to hire people trained on PhotoShop and InDesign. Both of which  
work just fine at every ad agency I've been associated with. All are  
Mac-based on the production side and fully staffed with diligent IT  
people, but problems are rare.

Paul

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Re: PESO - At the Lake

2010-04-18 Thread P N Stenquist

Nice view. Love that rain steaming down way out in the lake.
Paul
On Apr 18, 2010, at 8:25 AM, frank theriault wrote:


I told you I recently moved.  The new 'hood is a bit different from
the last.  This was the view yesterday morning from the bottom of my
street:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/04/at-lake.html

No graffiti in sight...

;-)

Hope you like.  Comments always welcome.

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Re: PAW15 - Boys...

2010-04-18 Thread P N Stenquist

Ouch! Makes me cringe. Had to hurt.
Paul
On Apr 18, 2010, at 10:15 AM, DagT wrote:


http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
K20D, DA*55, 1/60s, f/4.0, ISO800

I suddenly noticed that the link to the most recent PAW is always  
the same. The other PAWs are here:

http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/page7.html

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Re: PAW15 - Boys...

2010-04-18 Thread Doug Brewer

DagT wrote:

http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
K20D, DA*55, 1/60s, f/4.0, ISO800

I suddenly noticed that the link to the most recent PAW is always the same. The 
other PAWs are here:
http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/page7.html

DagT
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reminded me of this one by Sally Mann:

http://www.aucklandartgallery.govt.nz/press/images/mixed1.jpg

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Re: Ultra-wide zooms

2010-04-18 Thread Margus Männik

Hi there,

I have tested DA15 Limited vs DA14 some time ago (wrote a review). Many 
have said that DA14 is better simply because it is a stop faster. Me 
personally, I would avoid it at f/2.8 unless absolutely necessary. Test 
it as much as you like - it's still soft and vignetting full open. At 
f/4 it's much better and outperforms DA15 Limited a bit. At f/5.6 there 
was no difference between 'em. Is it worth to have a MUCH larger and 
heavier lens, that performs quite sluggish full-open?
One more thing - I never use DA14 without a hood. Never, even indoors. 
DA15 Limited also needs protection from side-light, but at least the 
hood is built-in.

The conclusion? If I wouldn't already own the DA14, I'd go for DA15 Limited.

BR, Margus

Adam Maas wrote:

All the reviews I've read indicate a slight decrease in performance
for the 15/4 over the 14/2.8 at the edge, which is consistent with the
design differences. While the 15 is slower, it's also a far less
complex (8/6) design than the 14 is (12/11) so it will remain less
well corrected. The differences in focal length is very minor and
won't have a serious impact on the design complexity.

-Adam

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I read a review on the da15 and they said it outperformed
the earlier da14 lens, which wouldn’t surprise me, its
not as wide and slower than the da14.

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New design, optimized for size over performance. Quite a good lens, but
inferior in performance to both the DA 14/2.8 and DA 12-24/4. Smaller than a
FA 50/1.4 though. Like the DA 21/3.2 it's marginally inferior to the older
and larger equivalent design.

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On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:51 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote:


what about the DA 15mm?

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Unfortunatly it hasn't been done. Most prime designs are at least 10
years old. In the case of the DA 40mm limited it looks like it's about
thirty years old, (see the M 40mm f2.8).

On 4/15/2010 1:35 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
  

How many times do I have to tell you to make the point?
A zoom has to do much more than a prime so the zoom cannot be
better or even equal to a prime with BOTH using state of the art
designs and optics, period. Whatever they do to improve zoom
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Re: PESO - At the Lake

2010-04-18 Thread Bruce Dayton
Very un-Frank, but you have captured the delicate details in the
clouds nicely.  Wow, you can do a great job with any subject, it
seems.

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Sunday, April 18, 2010, 5:25:19 AM, you wrote:

ft I told you I recently moved.  The new 'hood is a bit different from
ft the last.  This was the view yesterday morning from the bottom of my
ft street:

ft http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/04/at-lake.html

ft No graffiti in sight...

ft ;-)

ft Hope you like.  Comments always welcome.

ft cheers,
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PESO -- Fisher

2010-04-18 Thread P. J. Alling
So this isn't a great photograph, in fact it might not even be a good 
photograph, but it's the content.


This is a Fisher, or Fisher Cat if you live in Maine.  It's the 
largest member of the weasel* family (AFIK), until you get to the 
wolverine.  This is a rare shot partly because they're a nocturnal 
animal, (and apparently camera shy as this one saw me about 100 yards 
away and ducked behind the tree trunk, only poking his head out so that 
I could get this single shot).


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20fisher.html

Equipment:  Pentax K20D w/Kalamar 500mm mirror telephoto f8.0

Notes:  This is about the center 1/3 of the frame, down res-ing helped 
it alot, but you still gotta love that donut bokah, the focus wasn't 
perfect either so sue me.


*I would say this is the biggest weasel that I've ever seen, but 
unfortunately one of the senators from my state is Christopher Dodd.


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Re: PESO - At the Lake

2010-04-18 Thread P. J. Alling

So is this the birth of Frank Theriault: Boy Nature Photographer?

On 4/18/2010 8:25 AM, frank theriault wrote:

I told you I recently moved.  The new 'hood is a bit different from
the last.  This was the view yesterday morning from the bottom of my
street:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/04/at-lake.html

No graffiti in sight...

;-)

Hope you like.  Comments always welcome.

cheers,
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Re: Boris PESO #17 (Tel A-cat)

2010-04-18 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Bob W

Subject: RE: Boris PESO #17 (Tel A-cat)





Regarding the cat (and the bike), you should take Capa's advice ;)



It's not enough to have talent, you also have to be Hungarian ?



I'm frequently hungry

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Re: Goddamn Micro$oft

2010-04-18 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: P N Stenquist

Subject: Re: Goddamn Micro$oft



You definitely don't want to go there if you're running a business and 
have to hire people trained on PhotoShop and InDesign. Both of which  work 
just fine at every ad agency I've been associated with. All are  Mac-based 
on the production side and fully staffed with diligent IT  people, but 
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I sometimes wonder if all the problems people have with Microsoft products 
is caused by IT people (or, more to the point, people who think they are IT 
people) screwing around with what they should just leave alone.


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Re: Boris PESO #17 (Tel A-cat)

2010-04-18 Thread P. J. Alling

On 4/18/2010 11:43 AM, William Robb wrote:


- Original Message - From: Bob W
Subject: RE: Boris PESO #17 (Tel A-cat)





Regarding the cat (and the bike), you should take Capa's advice ;)



It's not enough to have talent, you also have to be Hungarian ?



I'm frequently hungry

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It sounds like a personal problem to me.

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Re: Paris

2010-04-18 Thread Paul Sorenson
It can be a safety issue too.  The ash is fine as talc.  Heard an 
interview on NPR yesterday with a retired British Airways captain. 
Flying a route near Indonesia several decades ago in a 747.  Dark night, 
no moon, flew into an ash cloud at 30 some thousand feet.  All four 
engines quit - the crew finally got them restarted decending though 
12,000 ft.


-p

On 4/18/2010 5:38 AM, David Mann wrote:

On Apr 18, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Bob W wrote:

   

However, you don't have to fly through a volcanic cloud to get to Paris. OMG
- we're all going to die like the dinosaurs and the Pompeians!
 

I doubt it's as much of a safety issue as a what does it cost to replace all the 
engines and leading edges on all our planes after we run them through nature's great 
sandblaster issue.

They'd just about be better off handing out a 645D to each passenger.

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Re: PESO -- Fisher

2010-04-18 Thread ann sanfedele
Saw one in Alaska in 1992... scurrying across the road in front of our 
car I didn't know it - but Richard said ooh you know what that was? 
That was a Fisher.  Nope, I was not ready with the camera... it
really is exciting to see something like that, even if you can't get THE 
shot ...  so thanks for sharing, PJ

and the sky in the photo and branches are kinda pretty anyway

ann

P. J. Alling wrote:

So this isn't a great photograph, in fact it might not even be a good 
photograph, but it's the content.


This is a Fisher, or Fisher Cat if you live in Maine.  It's the 
largest member of the weasel* family (AFIK), until you get to the 
wolverine.  This is a rare shot partly because they're a nocturnal 
animal, (and apparently camera shy as this one saw me about 100 yards 
away and ducked behind the tree trunk, only poking his head out so 
that I could get this single shot).


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20fisher.html

Equipment:  Pentax K20D w/Kalamar 500mm mirror telephoto f8.0

Notes:  This is about the center 1/3 of the frame, down res-ing helped 
it alot, but you still gotta love that donut bokah, the focus wasn't 
perfect either so sue me.


*I would say this is the biggest weasel that I've ever seen, but 
unfortunately one of the senators from my state is Christopher Dodd.






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Re: PESO New Moon and Venus

2010-04-18 Thread Christian Skofteland
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 10:24:49PM +0200, Toine wrote:
 The vulcano ash above Europe should produce some spectacular sunsets.
 It wasn't that spectacular yesterday and this evening I planned
 another photowalk. To my surprise the Moon and Venus produced a
 stunning show:
 
 http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/127-new-moon-and-venus
 
 Toine
 

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Re: PESO - At the Lake

2010-04-18 Thread ann sanfedele
Wow - I'd never have known that was your photo... no mean streets, no 
people, no grunge


lovely shot.  nice neighborhood!

ann

frank theriault wrote:


I told you I recently moved.  The new 'hood is a bit different from
the last.  This was the view yesterday morning from the bottom of my
street:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/04/at-lake.html

No graffiti in sight...

;-)

Hope you like.  Comments always welcome.

cheers,
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Re: Paris

2010-04-18 Thread P. J. Alling
If it's the same incident that I heard about, all four engines were 
ruined.  Replace not repair.  Anyone who used an air breathing engine 
down wind after the Mt. St Helens eruption was in the same position.


On 4/18/2010 12:15 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:
It can be a safety issue too.  The ash is fine as talc.  Heard an 
interview on NPR yesterday with a retired British Airways captain. 
Flying a route near Indonesia several decades ago in a 747.  Dark 
night, no moon, flew into an ash cloud at 30 some thousand feet.  All 
four engines quit - the crew finally got them restarted decending 
though 12,000 ft.


-p

On 4/18/2010 5:38 AM, David Mann wrote:

On Apr 18, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Bob W wrote:

However, you don't have to fly through a volcanic cloud to get to 
Paris. OMG

- we're all going to die like the dinosaurs and the Pompeians!
I doubt it's as much of a safety issue as a what does it cost to 
replace all the engines and leading edges on all our planes after we 
run them through nature's great sandblaster issue.


They'd just about be better off handing out a 645D to each passenger.

Dave



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Re: PESO 2010 - 070-078 - GDG

2010-04-18 Thread Christian Skofteland
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 06:24:32PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 a new blog post (finally) up ... lots of stuff there ...
 
   http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/it-is-now-spring
 
 comments always appreciated, thanks for looking!
 
 Godfrey

Don't much care for the tulips but the black and white flower image is stunning.

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Re: PESO - The Negotiation

2010-04-18 Thread Christian Skofteland
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 09:48:35PM -0400, frank theriault wrote:
 I'd love to go back to your place, but that thing doesn't have a bike 
 rack...
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/04/negotiation.html
 
 Hope you enjoy.
 
 Comments always welcome.
 
 cheers,
 frank

Nicely captured, knarf.  When I was in South Beach for the last three weeks you 
couldn't swing a dead cat without hitting a Lambo.  or Ferrari... or Bentley.. 
or Aston Martin... or...  meh just another day in SoBe. :-)

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Re: PESO - At the Lake

2010-04-18 Thread Christian Skofteland
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 08:25:19AM -0400, frank theriault wrote:
 I told you I recently moved.  The new 'hood is a bit different from
 the last.  This was the view yesterday morning from the bottom of my
 street:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/04/at-lake.html
 
 No graffiti in sight...
 
 ;-)
 
 Hope you like.  Comments always welcome.
 
 cheers,
 frank

I do like it very much.  It is such a departure from your normal subjects.  And 
it's sharp!

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PESO's: Squeaky..by Request.

2010-04-18 Thread Jack Davis
Wish I could recall who whined that there had been a drought of cat photos on 
the list lately and asked if I might make a contribution.
Even if I do eventually recall who that was, I don't think they'd appreciate my 
exposing them and bringing all that wrath down on them.
IAC, am including two links of quick shots taken a bit earlier this AM in our 
family room. 
She had been taking a public bath in a patch of sunlight.

Jack

Comments gladly accepted!

Both: K20, DA 55~...@150mm, f/8, 1/250, ISO 400, hand held.

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=488

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=489


  

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PESO: Cape Hatteras Light

2010-04-18 Thread John Sessoms
Took a day trip down to the coast. If you leave Raleigh by 1:00am 
local time, you can just barely make it to light in time for sunrise.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/4531053717/sizes/m/

K20D, Sigma 10-20


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street photography:good read

2010-04-18 Thread Sasha Sobol
http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2010/apr/18/street-photography-privacy-surveillance

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RE: PESO - At the Lake

2010-04-18 Thread Bob W
 
 I told you I recently moved.  The new 'hood is a bit 
 different from the last.  This was the view yesterday morning 
 from the bottom of my
 street:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/04/at-lake.html
 

That's very nice - looks like you moved to a nice place.

 No graffiti in sight...
 

We're relying on you to fix that.



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RE: PAW15 - Boys...

2010-04-18 Thread Bob W
That's a great shot. You should be looking for a publisher.

Bob

 
 http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
 K20D, DA*55, 1/60s, f/4.0, ISO800
 
 I suddenly noticed that the link to the most recent PAW is 
 always the same. The other PAWs are here:
 http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/page7.html
 


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RE: Boris PESO #17 (Tel A-cat)

2010-04-18 Thread Bob W

 On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
  It's not enough to have talent, you also have to be Hungarian ?
 
 One of my bosses speaks basic Hungarian. Will that do?
 

There is no such thing.


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RE: street photography:good read

2010-04-18 Thread Bob W
 
 http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2010/apr/18/street-phot
 ography-privacy-surveillance
 

I agree - thanks.

B


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Re: Goddamn Micro$oft

2010-04-18 Thread John Sessoms

From: P. J. Alling

On 4/17/2010 8:52 PM, Miserere wrote:

 On 17 April 2010 14:49, John Sessomsjsessoms...@nc.rr.com  wrote:


 ... and fuck Adobe too.

 Stupid ASSHOLES!
  

 It appears you are trying to use a computer. Would you like help with that?

 Take care, John. And be strong.


--M.


or not.

http://www.visar.com/AssistedSuicide.gif


I'm using Open Office for my word processor now, but the dancing paper 
clip never made me feel suicidal ... homicidal at times, yes, but never 
suicidal.


But thanks for the laugh. I needed it.

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Re: PESO: Cape Hatteras Light

2010-04-18 Thread Jack Davis

Lighting makes a nice impression, John!

Jack
--- On Sun, 4/18/10, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
 Subject: PESO: Cape Hatteras Light
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, April 18, 2010, 9:52 AM
 Took a day trip down to the coast.
 If you leave Raleigh by 1:00am local time, you can just
 barely make it to light in time for sunrise.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/4531053717/sizes/m/
 
 K20D, Sigma 10-20
 
 
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peso - dunes in dusk

2010-04-18 Thread Sasha Sobol
I am back from a week-long trip.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4527420875/
CC welcome.

--Sasha

here is my  route:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=dsource=s_dsaddr=2675+Fayette+Dr,+Mountain+View,+CA+94040daddr=5000+Highway+146+Pinnacles+Ar,+Paicines,+CA+95043-9770+(Pinnacles+National+Monument)+to:4645+West+Noble+Avenue,+Visalia,+CA+93277+(Motel+6+Visalia)+to:Red+Rock+Canyon,+East+Kern,+Kern,+California+to:Ridgecrest,+Kern,+California+to:State+Highway+178,+Trona,+Inyo,+California+93562+to:Zabriskie+Point+Rd+to:badwater+to:150+Yucca+Avenue,+Barstow,+CA+92311+(Motel+6+Barstow)+to:I-40+E+to:Cima+Rd+to:35.043946,-115.396829+to:1420+J+Street,+Needles,+CA+92363+(Motel+6+Needles)+to:Essex+Rd+to:Kelso-Dunes+Rd+to:150+Yucca+Ave,+Barstow,+CA+92311+(motel+6+barstow)+to:Fairmont-Neenach+Rd+to:Lancaster+Rd+to:CA-33+N+to:860+4th+Street,+Pismo+Beach,+CA+93449+(Motel+6+Pismo+Beach)+to:carmel+by+the+sea+to:2675+Fayette+Dr,+Mountain+View,+CA+94040geocode=FVq-OgIdTK-4-CndIequnbCPgDE2s7yJ3pgRrw%3BFZXTLAIdkGvH-Cntkk9xYESSgDE0WNP-8C42jQ%3BFXZMKgIdrffi-Cmp8QmIHiaVgDFZgCYeloHt-g%3BFSEEGwIdXzf4-Ck_3_JSIILBgDHPFnuqo-A6vA%3BFTiOHwIdD3z8-CmligwAvGzBgDG6rhBnA3Oy3A%3BFQQyIgIdX00B-SkZh9abrDDBgDG8U3zftnM_mQ%3BFfy8KwIdNp8J-Q%3BFVrSKAIdIEcK-Sn96j7hER_HgDEViwBVJewp-w%3BFad-FAIdpZwG-SlHQOyMoXzEgDHNPSx3e3XTDQ%3BFV7eEQIdGo4T-Q%3BFUrfGgId-dAc-Sk3Ui6Qp3zPgDFuzaCORNY4Sg%3B%3BFQ2XEwIdJyQr-SH1wONLVo4mXylBOqOpZCPOgDHbFo3HFdeeVQ%3BFe4xFQIdAmod-Q%3BFWBoFAIdio0a-Q%3BFad-FAIdpZwG-SlHQOyMoXzEgDHNPSx3e3XTDQ%3BFWTCEQId5t_x-A%3BFZjbEQIdWGjx-A%3BFfzzEgIduF7h-A%3BFVMbGAIdEnbP-CFdEs4IU_TYxynV4MxgK1nsgDHkfIyuwQM_EA%3BFefJLQIdKJm7-ClT7Be3FeaNgDEcVFHKpivC0g%3BFVq-OgIdTK-4-CndIequnbCPgDE2s7yJ3pgRrwhl=enmra=pemrcr=3,4via=9,16,18sll=36.057981,-118.366699sspn=8.132315,13.392334ie=UTF8t=hll=35.75097,-119.102783spn=4.083162,6.696167z=8

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RE: Paris

2010-04-18 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bob W
  However, you don't have to fly through a volcanic cloud to get to 
  Paris. OMG

  - we're all going to die like the dinosaurs and the Pompeians!
 
 I doubt it's as much of a safety issue as a what does it 
 cost to replace all the engines and leading edges on all our 
 planes after we run them through nature's great sandblaster issue.
 
 They'd just about be better off handing out a 645D to each passenger.


We're all gonna end up like this:
http://museumvictoria.com.au/pages/3575/gallery/pompeii.jpg


If I do, it'll be with my right hand raised and my middle finger extended.

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Re: Goddamn Micro$oft

2010-04-18 Thread John Sessoms

From: William Robb

From: P N Stenquist


 You definitely don't want to go there if you're running a business and 
 have to hire people trained on PhotoShop and InDesign. Both of which  work 
 just fine at every ad agency I've been associated with. All are  Mac-based 
 on the production side and fully staffed with diligent IT  people, but 
 problems are rare.


I sometimes wonder if all the problems people have with Microsoft products 
is caused by IT people (or, more to the point, people who think they are IT 
people) screwing around with what they should just leave alone.


Micro$oft security updates.

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RE: peso - dunes in dusk

2010-04-18 Thread Bob W

 
 I am back from a week-long trip.
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4527420875/
 CC welcome.
 

Very nice shot - love it.



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Re: peso - dunes in dusk

2010-04-18 Thread Subash
On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 10:37:05 -0700
Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com wrote:

 I am back from a week-long trip.
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4527420875/
 CC welcome.

beautiful...

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Re: street photography:good read

2010-04-18 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 09:55:06AM -0700, Sasha Sobol wrote:
 http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2010/apr/18/street-photography-privacy-surveillance

There are some good points raised there, but there's also a quite
a bit of stuff that wouldn't be out of place in Pseuds' Corner.


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Re: PAW14 - spring 2

2010-04-18 Thread eckinator
2010/4/18 DagT li...@thrane.name:

 In my view, this is a kid picture :-)

Certainly is but I was referring to full frontal kiddity... you know
what I mean!
Cheers
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Re: PESO -- Fisher

2010-04-18 Thread eckinator
2010/4/18 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:

 This is a Fisher, or Fisher Cat if you live in Maine.

Definitely nice to see one, I had no clue they even existed, so thanks
for making me know

 So this isn't a great photograph, in fact it might not even be a good 
 photograph, but it's the content.
[...]
 Equipment:  Pentax K20D w/Kalamar 500mm mirror telephoto f8.0

What do you expect with a lens built for shooting squid =)

Thanks for sharing
Ecke

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Re: peso - dunes in dusk

2010-04-18 Thread eckinator
2010/4/18 Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com:

 beautiful...

definitely. have no other word
ecke

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Re:street photography

2010-04-18 Thread Jerry in Arizona
While I can certainly admire alot of the work of street photographers, I just 
personally dislike being intrusive and dislike sending the message You're 
strange, I want a picture of you.  So I find it very difficult to do that kind 
of photography.

Jerry in Arizona


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http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2010/apr/18/street-photography-privacy-surveillance

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RE: street photography

2010-04-18 Thread Bob W

 
 While I can certainly admire alot of the work of street 
 photographers, I just personally dislike being intrusive and 
 dislike sending the message You're strange, I want a picture 
 of you.  So I find it very difficult to do that kind of photography.
 

It's a lot easier if you send a different message.

If you think that's the message of street photography you're missing the
point.

John F's comment is spot on, though - there's a lot of pseudy billshut
around street photography.

 
 http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2010/apr/18/street-phot
 ography-privacy-surveillance
 



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Re: PAW14 - spring 2

2010-04-18 Thread DagT
Den 18. apr. 2010 kl. 21.08 skrev eckinator:

 2010/4/18 DagT li...@thrane.name:
 
 In my view, this is a kid picture :-)
 
 Certainly is but I was referring to full frontal kiddity... you know
 what I mean!
 Cheers
 Ecke

Sure, more like the new one today :-)

DagT

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Re: PESO - The many and the one

2010-04-18 Thread paul stenquist
Pretty picture. Well done.
Paul
On Apr 18, 2010, at 8:11 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

 Extremely well rendered image. Tack sharp with great clarity.
 Terrific shot!
 
 Jack
 
 --- On Sat, 4/17/10, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
 
 From: Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com
 Subject: PESO - The many and the one
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, April 17, 2010, 10:17 PM
 I went out shooting with my oldest
 daughter (22) to have a little
 together time.  She used my K20D (likes it better than
 her *istD) and
 I used the K-x.
 
 The Many:
 Pentax K-x, Tamron 90/2.8 Macro
 ISO 200, 1/200 sec @ f/8, Handheld
 
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto-1.htm
 
 
 The One:
 Pentax K-x, Tamron 90/2.8 Macro
 ISO 200, 1/400 sec @ f/5.6, Handheld
 
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto-6.htm
 
 Comments welcome.
 
 
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RE: PDML Photo Annual on line now

2010-04-18 Thread Bob W
  
  http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/1286080
  
 
 Did I read somewhere that there will be signed copies 
 available at the exhibition? If so I'll ask Chris to pick one 
 up for me; otherwise I'll order later today.
 
 Bob

Chris has kindly offered to get me a copy in Chigao, and I hope all of you
who are there will be kind enough to sign your photo in the book for me.

Thanks,
Bob


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Re: PAW14 - spring 2

2010-04-18 Thread eckinator
2010/4/18 DagT li...@thrane.name:

 Sure, more like the new one today :-)

Exactly. Hurts a dad's heart. But then we all have to feel the wind
blowing in our face at some point in order to learn to deal with
adversity.
Nice going, I like your project, Dag
Cheers
Ecke

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Re: PESO - The many and the one

2010-04-18 Thread Toine
The One is beautifull capture
Toine

On 18 April 2010 07:17, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
 I went out shooting with my oldest daughter (22) to have a little
 together time.  She used my K20D (likes it better than her *istD) and
 I used the K-x.

 The Many:
 Pentax K-x, Tamron 90/2.8 Macro
 ISO 200, 1/200 sec @ f/8, Handheld

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto-1.htm


 The One:
 Pentax K-x, Tamron 90/2.8 Macro
 ISO 200, 1/400 sec @ f/5.6, Handheld

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto-6.htm

 Comments welcome.


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Re: OT - Enablement

2010-04-18 Thread Cotty
On 17/4/10, Christian Skofteland, discombobulated, unleashed:

The G11 is small enough to travel with but has a real optical viewfinder

Hi Christian, what's that viewfinder like, usable?

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Re: Paris

2010-04-18 Thread Cotty
On 17/4/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

Thanks - but I think you should spend the money on a week in Paris instead.
Several times while I was over there - especially when the film crew walked
backwards past me - I thought to myself I can't believe you've never been
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RE: PDML Exhibit Postcard JPegs

2010-04-18 Thread Bob W
[...]
 As it happens I'm hoping to meet Bob tomorrow - our son Pete 
 has just moved into a house share in Greenwich, just round 
 the corner from Bob, and we're going down so we may have lunch...
 
 And a pint...
 
 Or 2...

And a jolly nice lunch it was too. Here are some snaps from our walk along
the river:
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Re: peso - dunes in dusk

2010-04-18 Thread Cory Waters

I like this one a lot.
CW


On 4/18/2010 1:37 PM, Sasha Sobol wrote:

I am back from a week-long trip.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4527420875/
CC welcome.

--Sasha

here is my  route:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=dsource=s_dsaddr=2675+Fayette+Dr,+Mountain+View,+CA+94040daddr=5000+Highway+146+Pinnacles+Ar,+Paicines,+CA+95043-9770+(Pinnacles+National+Monument)+to:4645+West+Noble+Avenue,+Visalia,+CA+93277+(Motel+6+Visalia)+to:Red+Rock+Canyon,+East+Kern,+Kern,+California+to:Ridgecrest,+Kern,+California+to:State+Highway+178,+Trona,+Inyo,+California+93562+to:Zabriskie+Point+Rd+to:badwater+to:150+Yucca+Avenue,+Barstow,+CA+92311+(Motel+6+Barstow)+to:I-40+E+to:Cima+Rd+to:35.043946,-115.396829+to:1420+J+Street,+Needles,+CA+92363+(Motel+6+Needles)+to:Essex+Rd+to:Kelso-Dunes+Rd+to:150+Yucca+Ave,+Barstow,+CA+92311+(motel+6+barstow)+to:Fairmont-Neenach+Rd+to:Lancaster+Rd+to:CA-33+N+to:860+4th+Street,+Pismo+Beach,+CA+93449+(Motel+6+Pismo+Beach)+to:carmel+by+the+sea+to:2675+Fayette+Dr,+Mountain+View,+CA+94040geocode=FVq-OgIdTK-4-CndIequnbCPgDE2s7yJ3pgRrw%3BFZXTLAIdkGvH-Cntkk9xYESSgDE0WNP-8C42jQ%3BFXZMKgIdrffi-Cmp8QmIHiaVgDFZgCYeloHt-g%3BFSEEGwIdXzf4-Ck_3_JSIILBgDH

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Re: Missing COAs for PDML Exhibit

2010-04-18 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
I guess Ibarz refers to me.
(I signed as Jaume Lahuerta Ibarz since in Spain we use our Mother's lastname 
as a 'second' lastname...)


As I told you in an offlist message, I sent my COA last Friday 9th, so it 
should be about to reach you unless it didn't cross the ocean before the 
infamous cloud showed up...

Regards,
Jaume


- Mensaje original 
 De: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net
 Para: pdml@pdml.net
 Enviado: sáb,17 abril, 2010 17:29
 Asunto: Missing COAs for PDML Exhibit
 
 These are probably in the mail, but

I have not received COAs from the 
 following folks:

Christine Aguila (I'll do mine this weekend 
 :-)))
Doug Brewer
Tom Cakalic
Bruce Dayton
Luka 
 Knezevic-Strika
Ibarz
Boris Liberman (has sent, but still 
 waiting)
Scott Loveless
Jostein Oksne
Tim Osleby
William 
 Robb
Mark Roberts
Christian Skofteland
Frank Theriault
Dag 
 Thrane


All others have been received and delivered to the 
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Re: PDML Photo Annual on line now

2010-04-18 Thread ann sanfedele



Bob W wrote:


http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/1286080

 

Did I read somewhere that there will be signed copies 
available at the exhibition? If so I'll ask Chris to pick one 
up for me; otherwise I'll order later today.


Bob
   



Chris has kindly offered to get me a copy in Chigao, and I hope all of you
who are there will be kind enough to sign your photo in the book for me.

Thanks,
Bob


You'll be sorry! :-)

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Re: PDML Photo Annual on line now

2010-04-18 Thread Brendan MacRae




- Original Message 
 From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Sat, April 17, 2010 5:15:23 AM
 Subject: PDML Photo Annual on line now
 
 I'm still re-installing all my apps after replacing my dead hard
drive, so 
 you won't be hearing much from me for a while. But I did
take time to make 
 the book available 
 :)

http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/1286080


Looks great, Mark, as usual.

Cool idea for the cover, too. Of course, I'm biased ;-)

Brendan


  

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Re: PESO -- A lot of glass`

2010-04-18 Thread Rick Womer
A lot of glass, and the promise of a lot of beer!

I like it.

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, April 12, 2010, 2:07 AM
 I don't know if I acheaved what I was
 trying for but what the heck
 
 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20alotofglass.html
 
 Equipment: Pentax K20D/smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 Limited
 
 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
 
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Re: PDML Exhibit Postcard JPegs

2010-04-18 Thread Brendan MacRae




- Original Message 
 From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Sat, April 17, 2010 9:29:11 AM
 Subject: PDML Exhibit Postcard JPegs
 
 Link to front and back of the PDML Exhibit Postcard.  Curator sent these as 
 jpegs.  Feel free to download and post on your blogs and frogs, web pages 
 and theater stages, Facebooks and fishing hooks.


Note the exhibit is 
 partially funded by a City Arts Grant from the Chicago Department of Cultural 
 Affairs and money from Illinois Arts Council--see back page of 
 postcard.

http://www.caguila.com/caguila/pdmlexpostcard/

Cheers, 
 Christine 


Wowsers! My son Finn is on both the postcard and the cover of the Annual.

Both terrific honors. I am rather humbled :-)

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PESO: Yates Mill

2010-04-18 Thread John Sessoms
Historic Yates Mill in Raleigh NC. They were having tours  
demonstrations. You don't get much of a visible water-flow except when 
they're first starting the wheel.


When it's running they let just enough water through to sustain it, but 
at the beginning there's some overflow that gives a nice cascade before 
the flow overcomes the wheel's inertia.



http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/4532375519/sizes/m/

K20D, Sigma 10-20

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Re: PDML Photo Annual on line now

2010-04-18 Thread Miserere
On 18 April 2010 15:55, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 Chris has kindly offered to get me a copy in Chigao, and I hope all of you
 who are there will be kind enough to sign your photo in the book for me.

 Thanks,
 Bob

So am I signing with my real name or with my nom de plume?  :-)


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Re: PDML Photo Annual on line now

2010-04-18 Thread P. J. Alling

On 4/18/2010 7:54 PM, Miserere wrote:

On 18 April 2010 15:55, Bob Wp...@web-options.com  wrote:
   

Chris has kindly offered to get me a copy in Chigao, and I hope all of you
who are there will be kind enough to sign your photo in the book for me.

Thanks,
Bob
 

So am I signing with my real name or with my nom de plume?  :-)


   --M.
   


I think you should only be allowed to sign your nom de plume, if you use 
an ostrich quill..




   



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Re: PDML Photo Annual on line now

2010-04-18 Thread Miserere
On 18 April 2010 21:00, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 4/18/2010 7:54 PM, Miserere wrote:

 So am I signing with my real name or with my nom de plume?  :-)


   --M.


 I think you should only be allowed to sign your nom de plume, if you use an
 ostrich quill..

Wouldn't a cormorant quill be more appropriate?


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Re: PDML Photo Annual on line now

2010-04-18 Thread P. J. Alling

On 4/18/2010 8:12 PM, Miserere wrote:

On 18 April 2010 21:00, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com  wrote:
   

On 4/18/2010 7:54 PM, Miserere wrote:
 

So am I signing with my real name or with my nom de plume?  :-)


   --M.

   

I think you should only be allowed to sign your nom de plume, if you use an
ostrich quill..
 

Wouldn't a cormorant quill be more appropriate?


   --M.
   


I suppose, but ostrich plumes are so much more plume like.

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Re: street photography

2010-04-18 Thread Miserere
On 18 April 2010 15:42, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 It's a lot easier if you send a different message.

 If you think that's the message of street photography you're missing the
 point.

 John F's comment is spot on, though - there's a lot of pseudy billshut
 around street photography.

I agree with Bob. I photograph people who are interesting (to me) and
who attract me for some reason or other. That they stand out in a
crowd is a compliment, and a testament to their personality.

Of course, I don't photograph people who are down on their luck. I
don't find them interesting in the photographic sense and I don't
want to benefit from their hardship.

Cheers,


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PESO: Yates Mill again

2010-04-18 Thread John Sessoms

Another photo of Yates Mill in Raleigh, NC.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/4532688343/sizes/m/

K20D, Sigma 10-20

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PESO - Folsom Lake

2010-04-18 Thread Bruce Dayton
This was taken at a local lake.  Even though we were shooting at
early evening, the lighting was too harsh to record the entire scene
well.  Some of you may be aware that the K-x has a built in HDR
function whereby it takes 3 shots to bracket exposure and then merges
them together.  So this shot here was taken that way.  I held it
still on a rock for the exposures.  If anyone is interested, I did
take another shot without HDR - quite a difference.

Pentax K-x, DA*16-50/2.8 @ 16mm
ISO 200, 1/60 sec @ f/10, handheld

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto-00011.htm

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