Re: OT: Happy Canada Day
Yeah Bill. The Yanks eventually wised up and did away with slavery. They realised using illegal aliens was less hassle... (this crap reminds my why I unsubed from the list) On 05/07/2010, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Bill, You have to stop accusing us of slave labor and racial segregation. Slavery was an economic fact in the cotton farming southern states. Look across the border, do they raise much cotton in Wyoming or North Dakota? Were these states built on 'slave labor'? And my ancestors weren't even resident in this country when slavery was practiced, so I'm deriving some great benefit from it??? As to segregation, I've never believed in it or seen it practiced in the states I lived in. Stop pretending you're all good because your Canadian and we're all bad. It just isn't so... Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 8:56 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: Yup, and they came to a country whose economy was built on slave labour and until fairly recently, had racial segregation legally entrenched in it's system. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Happy Canada Day
On 7/4/2010 6:09 PM, Bob W wrote:
It's a very real CURRENT issue. The heir-apparent Prince of Wales,
Charles Windsor, appears to have run afoul of the Succession Act
himself.
He's divorced, he's married to a divorcee and she's a [former] Roman
Catholic. (Three strikes.)
nobody gives a shit about that sort of thing any more.
Just being the first born son of the current monarch isn't enough to
put
him on the throne. Charles doesn't inherit unless he can convince
Parliament to say he can inherit, which from this distance appears less
and less likely. There's a very real chance the succession will skip
over Charles to his eldest son because he will not get the consent of
Parliament.
Nobody in Parliament gives a flying fuck. The only people who care are the
editors of supermarket magazines who think this sort of rubbish increases
sales to Daily Express and Daily Mail readers.
You also might consider how the last king ended up on the throne, as
he was not first in the line of succession when his father died.
Hint: Wallace Simpson was also a divorcee and a Roman Catholic.
nobody gave a shit about that. What counted against her was being American.
It was 80 years ago. Do you really think people in Britain still have those
sort of views? There are probably about 16 people in Britain who care about
the religion and divorced status of the royal family, and they're all over
110 and living in secure accommodation. Prince Charles could divorce Camilla
and marry a gay Muslim leper from Somalia and nobody would give a toss or
think it should affect whether he becomes king. In fact, we'd probably
celebrate his diversity awareness.
What matters is that he should stop interfering in matters that don't
concern him.
Bob
What counted against him was that he was suspected of being a
Nazi/German sympathizer, all else was a convenient excuse.
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I enjoyed myself looking at the pics and I thought you might too : http://www.flickr.com/groups/wishitookthat/ dominique from tropical Paris, France . -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Extra Bovril rations...
...if you can identify this thing: http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-1.jpg http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-2.jpg http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-3.jpg Hint: it's nothing to do with executing royalty, French, British or otherwise. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO - Krazee
On 4 July 2010 01:14, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: David Savage wrote: G'day All, Meet Krazee...: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3106/4603487155_369cffcba0_o.jpg ...he's one of the goalies for a local ice hockey team, mostly made up of ex-pat Canadians (Krazee, is a token Aussie) Great portrait Dave. And nice to hear from you again. Thanks Mark. (BTW: I'm a fellow defector having gone full-frame with a Sony A850 - though I shill use my Pentax kit a lot) Congrats. Be curious to hear your thoughts on how find the Sony compared to Pentax. I put 2 rolls of T-max through the 6x7 last weekend, so I can say that I'm still shooting Pentax. DS -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO - Krazee
Thanks Ecke Maybe he has bird flu? DS On 4 July 2010 03:00, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: Boy, he needs to get something done about those eyes... well executed portrait thanks for sharing ecke 2010/7/3 David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com: G'day All, Meet Krazee...: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3106/4603487155_369cffcba0_o.jpg ...he's one of the goalies for a local ice hockey team, mostly made up of ex-pat Canadians (Krazee, is a token Aussie) D700, AF-S 70-200mm @ 125mm, 1/160 @ f11, ISO 200 Elinchrom Ranger RX through 1x1m softbox over my right shoulder SB600 camera left SB28 camera right Enjoy have at it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO - Krazee
On 4 July 2010 04:31, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Jul 3, 2010, at 9:27 AM, David Savage wrote: G'day All, Meet Krazee...: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3106/4603487155_369cffcba0_o.jpg ...he's one of the goalies for a local ice hockey team, mostly made up of ex-pat Canadians (Krazee, is a token Aussie) D700, AF-S 70-200mm @ 125mm, 1/160 @ f11, ISO 200 Elinchrom Ranger RX through 1x1m softbox over my right shoulder SB600 camera left SB28 camera right Enjoy have at it. Not a bad shot considering the equipment limitations that you're facing. Yeah, those Elinchrom lights are a right PITA If you had a K-x, you realize you wouldn't need to use strobes to have enough light to get the shot. :-) Seriously though, I can't find a single nit to pick. Awesome shot. Just for your own fun, or is it for publication? If it wasn't originally, it should be. Thanks. In the 15 odd years that I've been taking photography seriously I've yet to make a single cent from it. I only ever shoot for fun. DS -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO - Krazee
You're too harsh on yourself. Your face isn't broken, it has character This was shot on the ice I am please to say that I somehow managed to not fall over break my arse bone. Not bad for a lad who's main experience with ice is in drinks. DS On 4 July 2010 08:19, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: As some one who played goal for various ice hockey teams from 1965 to 1973, nice shot Dave. If not for a broken face in 1973, i'd still be playing., Dave On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 12:27 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: G'day All, Meet Krazee...: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3106/4603487155_369cffcba0_o.jpg ...he's one of the goalies for a local ice hockey team, mostly made up of ex-pat Canadians (Krazee, is a token Aussie) D700, AF-S 70-200mm @ 125mm, 1/160 @ f11, ISO 200 Elinchrom Ranger RX through 1x1m softbox over my right shoulder SB600 camera left SB28 camera right Enjoy have at it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Reverse Psychology?
:-) On 5 July 2010 06:44, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if it works: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/07/reverse-psychology.html ;-) Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Semi-OT: Louie Leica
Only barely ontopic 'cos I slapped the L-43 on for the catalog shot. I swear, I was not responsible for the skinning of this one. And I know its not genuine. But I promise I will give it a good home and plenty of exercise http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_07/10_07_louie/index.htm Happy Birthday, Canada. Thanks for saving Leica Camera AG http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_07/10_07_louie/03.htm -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Happy Canada Day
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 1:22 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: snip Stop pretending you're all good because your Canadian and we're all bad. snip But it's true, isn't it? That's what we were taught in school, anyway... ;-) But seriously, your argument has some merit, Bob. There were actually slaves in Canada back before confederation, certainly in parts of what's now Ontario and Nova Scotia. Of course it wasn't institutionalized to the extent that it was in the American South, but it was still here. We need to keep in mind that 1/2 the US fought ~against~ slavery in the Civil War (I know it's not quite that simple, but still...). cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Florac and faunac
Here is a rather large gallery of photographs I took on holiday which show the trails I walked on the Causse Mejean and other nearby hills. Don't feel obliged to look at all of them - it is a large gallery, but I wanted to show something of the variety of landscape and wildlife up there. As Dominique said before I left, there are lots of hills and grass. I can now tell you that there's more to it than that - they have rocks too. http://www.web-options.com/Causse/ It was a wet June, so everything was very lush green. I arrived for the first hot days of summer (up to 33 degrees) and unfortunately much of the shooting was with the sun directly overhead. After a few days some storms bubbled up and I was caught 2 days in a row on top of the causse by torrential downpours and lightning storms. This must be France's way of making visitors part of the terroir, since my trail shoes never quite dried out, and now smell strongly of Roquefort cheese. What I was unable to photograph effectively is the bird life. Each time I walked or cycled up onto the Causse Mejean I saw at least one and up to 5 vultures, which I'm sure were Griffon Vultures (Gyps fulvus) based on the colouring on the underside of their wings and around their necks, and the shapes of their wings, heads and tail. Quite disconcerting to see them circling overhead when you're struggling up there! I also saw such things as the Saint-Martin's buzzard (Circus cyaneus, apparently hen harrier is the common English name), which is exceptionally beautiful, as well as the common buzzard in abundance and occasional falcons and smaller raptors. There are also large numbers of thrushes, larks, tits, partridge and uncountable LBJs which I'd never seen before. It's incredibly rich for birdlife. Some of these photos were taken on days I spent with Alastair, Masha and Neave Robertson who were in the area. I haven't posted pictures of them as I'm waiting for their permission to post them or not. It was great to meet them all - they are lovely people, so if you get the opportunity to meet them, take it. Alastair drove us around the Circuit des Causses et Gorges, basically around the Gorge du Tarn and up onto the causse itself. It's a thrilling place. Comments welcome, but please note I already know I'm no Ansel Adams! Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Incoming
Looks good to me Frank. Good job. For some reason not a lot of bee's around the yard this year. Dave On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 10:12 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Not as sharp as I might like, but I'm still pretty damned happy with it: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/incoming.html With the Tamron SP 90mm f2.5 macro manual focus. Hope you like. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Reverse Psychology?
Its full of piranha Dave On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Did you check to see if the box had a bottom? Dan On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 6:44 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if it works: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/07/reverse-psychology.html ;-) Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: A baseball photo
I got in ok. Must be family.:-) Nice photo, well done. Just enough light on the watchers. Sunset is exposed well. The one field light right in the middle is a bit distracting, but hey, its a night game right.;-) Dave On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 4:47 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: If I understand how Flickr works, this photo should be private, visible only to family. The link below should make you all part of that family. http://flic.kr/p/8fMeQf This is an example of the kind of work I'm having to do for school. This was one of my weeklies, rated 4 out of a possible 5 by the instructor. It's the best grade I've gotten so far in the class. The people are lit with a Vivitar 285HV balanced with the ambient light on the field. In fact, if you look on the right hand side, you can see the strobe head. I'll take it down next week when I get home and back to my email. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Extra Bovril rations...
Bob W wrote: ...if you can identify this thing: http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-1.jpg http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-2.jpg http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-3.jpg Hint: it's nothing to do with executing royalty, French, British or otherwise. Sorry...not even the promise of extra rations of Bovril lends any sense to what that small structure might possibly be! Perhaps a closeup of the sign to the left of the art object itself? keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: A baseball photo
On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 4:47 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: If I understand how Flickr works, this photo should be private, visible only to family. The link below should make you all part of that family. http://flic.kr/p/8fMeQf This is an example of the kind of work I'm having to do for school. This was one of my weeklies, rated 4 out of a possible 5 by the instructor. It's the best grade I've gotten so far in the class. The people are lit with a Vivitar 285HV balanced with the ambient light on the field. In fact, if you look on the right hand side, you can see the strobe head. I'll take it down next week when I get home and back to my email. Pure Americana. Brilliant! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Reverse Psychology?
On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote: I enjoyed! Btw, didn't we have a PUG theme on mailboxes...I should look... YES! Mailboxes is for July's PUG. It has now been resized and submitted. Thanks for the reminder. And thanks to everyone who looked and commented! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Need advice - My bike was stolen
On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 11:33 PM, John Celio n...@neovenator.com wrote: Do credit card companies help with these sorts of things? If you bought it with a credit card, you might be covered on it by purchase insurance. Thanks for the suggestion. I checked with my credit card company and they do cover purchases lost due to damage or theft for up to 90 days, so I was able to file claims for the bike and the little computer that was on it. My other stuff was old, but if I can get a replacement bike I'll be happier than a hog in slop. I imagine the paperwork will take a few weeks, but it's definitely better than having to start over cold. You may also want to try contacting someone in the local bike community - citizens' cycling lobby or advocacy groups, bike messengers, that sort of thing. They may know of one or several hot shops, fences who are known to take in hot bikes for resale. Often when confronted by the real owners they'll give the bike back or sell it to the real owner for next to nothing, so as to make sure the police aren't contacted. It may be worth a shot. Best of luck! Losing a bike is a horrible thing. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Latch
Automotive minimalism. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/4761915277/lightbox/ http://snipurl.com/z0pug K20D, DA* 16-50 @ 36mm, f/5.6, 1/750th, ISO 200. Handheld. Comments welcome. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Boris, some PESOs
Hi! I seem to be falling behind in PESOs one more time. So here goes: #25 (Mondial): http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-25-mondial.html #26 (Shabazi 67): http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-26-shabazi-67.html #27 (Not staged): http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-27-not-staged.html #28 (Etude): http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-28-etude.html In sooth, I don't think I need any other gear sans my K-7 and A 50/1.2. Please be brutal and honest... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris, some PESOs
Not Staged is enjoyably unique. Small blossoms in Etude are strewn in an interesting way. I agree that something else is needed in the frame, but the dead leaves may not be it. Jack --- On Mon, 7/5/10, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Subject: Boris, some PESOs To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Monday, July 5, 2010, 6:07 AM Hi! I seem to be falling behind in PESOs one more time. So here goes: #25 (Mondial): http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-25-mondial.html #26 (Shabazi 67): http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-26-shabazi-67.html #27 (Not staged): http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-27-not-staged.html #28 (Etude): http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-28-etude.html In sooth, I don't think I need any other gear sans my K-7 and A 50/1.2. Please be brutal and honest... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Reverse Psychology?
I am thinking it is not reverse psychology, it is simply a junk mail folder ;-). Boris On 7/5/2010 1:44 AM, frank theriault wrote: I wonder if it works: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/07/reverse-psychology.html ;-) Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Smokeys
I cannot help but point out that you seem to be out to compete with Tom C... And also I am thinking that Smokeys are indeed smokey ;-). Boris On 7/4/2010 9:25 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Here's a shot or 3 from Smokey Mountains National Park. It was raining on our way back from Grandfather Mountain, but it made the scenery very smokey. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1174 Comments, advise, and criticism solicited... Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Goldeneye
On 7/4/2010 8:29 PM, Bob W wrote: The name's Pond. James Pond. Oh yeah ;-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Flowers in the Dirt
On 6/30/2010 8:44 PM, Tom C wrote: A 3-image gallery... fallen Blue Flax... http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=507278 You will have to call the next one My Brave Face, you know... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Misty Morning
On 6/30/2010 12:45 AM, eckinator wrote: http://tinyurl.com/eckinator4PDML Good? Bad? Ugly? Let me know! Enjoy Ecke Totally reminiscent of avatar. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Reverse Psychology?
:-) Like it. Just a chute to the recycled paper bin and I'd install it ... On Sunday, July 4, 2010, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if it works: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/07/reverse-psychology.html ;-) Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Smokeys
Say's photo not found Dave On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a shot or 3 from Smokey Mountains National Park. It was raining on our way back from Grandfather Mountain, but it made the scenery very smokey. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1174 Comments, advise, and criticism solicited... Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Smokeys
Dave, You looked while I was updating these. Please check again at http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11225970 As per Larry's suggestion, I fiddled with contrast and black point. But I did it all with curves, stretching the histogram across the space. I think they look a bit better, more detail and contrast. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 9:41 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Say's photo not found Dave On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a shot or 3 from Smokey Mountains National Park. It was raining on our way back from Grandfather Mountain, but it made the scenery very smokey. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1174 Comments, advise, and criticism solicited... Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Smokeys
Ah. # 3769 is very well done. Dave On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Dave, You looked while I was updating these. Please check again at http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11225970 As per Larry's suggestion, I fiddled with contrast and black point. But I did it all with curves, stretching the histogram across the space. I think they look a bit better, more detail and contrast. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 9:41 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Say's photo not found Dave On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a shot or 3 from Smokey Mountains National Park. It was raining on our way back from Grandfather Mountain, but it made the scenery very smokey. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1174 Comments, advise, and criticism solicited... Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO - Krazee
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 5:38 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: You're too harsh on yourself. Your face isn't broken, it has character You haven't seen me for a while, have you.:-) This was shot on the ice I am please to say that I somehow managed to not fall over break my arse bone. Not bad for a lad who's main experience with ice is in drinks. Then well done Sir. Dave DS On 4 July 2010 08:19, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: As some one who played goal for various ice hockey teams from 1965 to 1973, nice shot Dave. If not for a broken face in 1973, i'd still be playing., Dave On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 12:27 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: G'day All, Meet Krazee...: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3106/4603487155_369cffcba0_o.jpg ...he's one of the goalies for a local ice hockey team, mostly made up of ex-pat Canadians (Krazee, is a token Aussie) D700, AF-S 70-200mm @ 125mm, 1/160 @ f11, ISO 200 Elinchrom Ranger RX through 1x1m softbox over my right shoulder SB600 camera left SB28 camera right Enjoy have at it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Smokeys
Thanks for looking Boris and Dave (twice!)Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 9:56 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Ah. # 3769 is very well done. Dave On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Dave, You looked while I was updating these. Please check again at http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11225970 As per Larry's suggestion, I fiddled with contrast and black point. But I did it all with curves, stretching the histogram across the space. I think they look a bit better, more detail and contrast. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 9:41 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Say's photo not found Dave On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a shot or 3 from Smokey Mountains National Park. It was raining on our way back from Grandfather Mountain, but it made the scenery very smokey. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1174 Comments, advise, and criticism solicited... Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris, some PESOs
Boris, I enjoyed Mondial, the guy seems to be cramed onto a very small scooter! Shabazi 67 I don't understand. I cannot make out the lower right of the window. Not Staged and Etude are the best photos in my opinion. The symetry in Not Staged is charming and begs us to think about how it happened. I like Etude but wish you had a bit more depth of field to it. I expected to see the leaf is sharp focus too! Hope you're not roasting in the summer heat. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Not Staged is enjoyably unique. Small blossoms in Etude are strewn in an interesting way. I agree that something else is needed in the frame, but the dead leaves may not be it. Jack --- On Mon, 7/5/10, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Subject: Boris, some PESOs To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Monday, July 5, 2010, 6:07 AM Hi! I seem to be falling behind in PESOs one more time. So here goes: #25 (Mondial): http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-25-mondial.html #26 (Shabazi 67): http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-26-shabazi-67.html #27 (Not staged): http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-27-not-staged.html #28 (Etude): http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-28-etude.html In sooth, I don't think I need any other gear sans my K-7 and A 50/1.2. Please be brutal and honest... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Boris, some PESOs
I love the shot of the 2 bikes parked on the corner. Bikes are like dogs. They make good shapes to be in photos. B Hi! I seem to be falling behind in PESOs one more time. So here goes: #25 (Mondial): http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-25-mondial.html #26 (Shabazi 67): http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-26-shabazi-67.html #27 (Not staged): http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-27-not-staged.html #28 (Etude): http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-28- etude.html In sooth, I don't think I need any other gear sans my K-7 and A 50/1.2. Please be brutal and honest... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Smokeys
I really like KMGP3769. I might tweak the cropping slightly ( a bit off the upper left corner, a bit more off the lower right corner to move the tree more off-center) but that is really a minor niggle. It is very very nice as is. stan On Jul 5, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Dave, You looked while I was updating these. Please check again at http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11225970 As per Larry's suggestion, I fiddled with contrast and black point. But I did it all with curves, stretching the histogram across the space. I think they look a bit better, more detail and contrast. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 9:41 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Say's photo not found Dave On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a shot or 3 from Smokey Mountains National Park. It was raining on our way back from Grandfather Mountain, but it made the scenery very smokey. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1174 Comments, advise, and criticism solicited... Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Extra Bovril rations...
Bob W wrote: ...if you can identify this thing: http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-1.jpg http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-2.jpg http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-3.jpg Hint: it's nothing to do with executing royalty, French, British or otherwise. I can't but sure would like to know what it is ( a chair for giants that lost the cane webbing?) ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Extra Bovril rations...
Bob W wrote: ...if you can identify this thing: http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-1.jpg http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-2.jpg http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-3.jpg Hint: it's nothing to do with executing royalty, French, British or otherwise. Kiddie gym for mouflons? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Extra Bovril rations...
My first thought is that it is a milking station, but the location seems odd, plus the structure is a bit too tall. And too complicated - it shouldn't need that many adjustment points. Something having to do with animal restraining though. stan On Jul 5, 2010, at 4:16 AM, Bob W wrote: ...if you can identify this thing: http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-1.jpg http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-2.jpg http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-3.jpg Hint: it's nothing to do with executing royalty, French, British or otherwise. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Extra Bovril rations...
Bob W wrote: ...if you can identify this thing: http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-1.jpg http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-2.jpg http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-3.jpg Hint: it's nothing to do with executing royalty, French, British or otherwise. Human equivalent of the mounting stool for when the poor wife has to carry her drunken shepherd husband back up the mountain at the end of market day? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Extra Bovril rations...
Bob W wrote: ...if you can identify this thing: http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-1.jpg http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-2.jpg http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-3.jpg Hint: it's nothing to do with executing royalty, French, British or otherwise. Loading jig, for those photos of donkeys with house-sized burdens of hay? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Extra Bovril rations...
Bob W wrote: ...if you can identify this thing: http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-1.jpg http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-2.jpg http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-3.jpg Hint: it's nothing to do with executing royalty, French, British or otherwise. Cattle scales? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Florac and faunac
Bob W wrote: Here is a rather large gallery of photographs I took on holiday which show the trails I walked on the Causse Mejean and other nearby hills. Don't feel obliged to look at all of them - it is a large gallery, but I wanted to show something of the variety of landscape and wildlife up there. As Dominique said before I left, there are lots of hills and grass. I can now tell you that there's more to it than that - they have rocks too. http://www.web-options.com/Causse/ Comments welcome, but please note I already know I'm no Ansel Adams! http://www.web-options.com/Causse/content/_6226656_large.html Carline thistle Carlina acaulis http://www.web-options.com/Causse/content/_6226670_large.html Scarce swallowtail Papilio podalirius http://www.web-options.com/Causse/content/_6267019_large.html (and previous) Black-veined white Aporia crataegi I'm not even going to hazard a guess at the orchids. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Florac and faunac
[...] http://www.web-options.com/Causse/ Comments welcome, but please note I already know I'm no Ansel Adams! http://www.web-options.com/Causse/content/_6226656_large.html Carline thistle Carlina acaulis http://www.web-options.com/Causse/content/_6226670_large.html Scarce swallowtail Papilio podalirius http://www.web-options.com/Causse/content/_6267019_large.html (and previous) Black-veined white Aporia crataegi I'm not even going to hazard a guess at the orchids. I'm very impressed that you got those thistles and the butterflies/moth right. When I described the swallowtail to Alastair and Masha they both immediately suggested hawk moth. Whatever. It was a lovely friendly little creature with a very graceful soaring flight, almost never flapping its wings. The orchids were quite common. Alastair seemed to like them, but also did not know more precisely what they are. I didn't even know they were orchids. You'd love it there. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Florac and faunac
Do you buy your books from fnac then? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Need advice - My bike was stolen
2010/7/5 John Celio n...@neovenator.com: I checked with my credit card company and they do cover purchases lost due to damage or theft for up to 90 days, so I was able to file claims for the bike and the little computer that was on it. Awesome! Good to know you'll be back on the road soon. Now all we need to do is hook him up with a new stick of celery ]=) I looked up the price of your bike, John, and I doubt the 10% of bike price rule for the lock would apply if you seriously want to impress anyone with it. Again, great news!! Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Extra Bovril rations...
Not bad, not bad! It's obvious when you know - it's a ferradou, of course! Here's the sign: http://www.web-options.com/Ferradou.jpg It says This device or ferradou was used for shoeing oxen. It is situated on the fairground, near the public weighscale, where Florac's 13 annual fairs used to take place. There you could find 'beasts with horns' (bovines) and 'beasts with wool' (ovines), pigs, horses and all sorts of merchandise. In earlier times these fairs attracted the farming population from the surrounding area and made up an essential element of the economic and social life of the country. They were a place of exchange between neighouring regions. These days cattle are no longer traded in this way, but more modest fairs remain each month, such as a weekly market on Thursdays Here's one in use in the Basque country in the 1970s, as photographed by William Albert Allard and published in his book A Time We Knew: http://www.web-options.com/Ferradou-1.jpg Bob My first thought is that it is a milking station, but the location seems odd, plus the structure is a bit too tall. And too complicated - it shouldn't need that many adjustment points. Something having to do with animal restraining though. stan On Jul 5, 2010, at 4:16 AM, Bob W wrote: ...if you can identify this thing: http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-1.jpg http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-2.jpg http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-3.jpg Hint: it's nothing to do with executing royalty, French, British or otherwise. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: have pdml exhibitors heard from Sue?
Not here. -Original Message- From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net Sent: Jul 2, 2010 3:22 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: have pdml exhibitors heard from Sue? - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 2:01 PM Subject: Re: have pdml exhibitors heard from Sue? Christine Aguila wrote: If you haven't heard from Sue, could you let me know either on list or off list, doesn't matter. I'd like to know. Just an FYI, I haven't heard from her either, though I have sent word to her. Cheers, Christine Haven't heard anything yet. hmmm. Thanks for letting me know, Bruce. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Ken Waller PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Need advice - My bike was stolen
I'm glad to hear you've gotten some relief from the credit card insurance. Don't want to raise my blood pressure so I won't go on with what I think about thieves. May the miserable bastards have their gonads roasted prior to being removed. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Smokeys
On Jul 5, 2010, at 7:48 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Dave, You looked while I was updating these. Please check again at http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11225970 As per Larry's suggestion, I fiddled with contrast and black point. But I did it all with curves, stretching the histogram across the space. I think they look a bit better, more detail and contrast. I think that really helps bring them out. I can't seem to get the lightroom curve to do what I want it to, so I just frob the dials. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 9:41 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Say's photo not found Dave On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a shot or 3 from Smokey Mountains National Park. It was raining on our way back from Grandfather Mountain, but it made the scenery very smokey. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1174 Comments, advise, and criticism solicited... Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Latch
I like the crispness and colour here. The shodow is nice Dave On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Automotive minimalism. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/4761915277/lightbox/ http://snipurl.com/z0pug K20D, DA* 16-50 @ 36mm, f/5.6, 1/750th, ISO 200. Handheld. Comments welcome. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Latch
David J Brooks wrote: I like the crispness and colour here. The shodow is nice Dave Thank you, Dave. -bmw On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Automotive minimalism. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/4761915277/lightbox/ http://snipurl.com/z0pug K20D, DA* 16-50 @ 36mm, f/5.6, 1/750th, ISO 200. Handheld. Comments welcome. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax gear...
On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: So many pun-chures. You spoke to soon Dave Jack --- On Sun, 7/4/10, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: From: Cotty cotty...@mac.com Subject: Re: Pentax gear... To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 12:53 PM On 4/7/10, Roman Melihhov, discombobulated, unleashed: http://4models.info/images/0.en.png Just fun, I use this image for model candidates without photos on file. That's wheely good. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax gear...
David J Brooks wrote: On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: So many pun-chures. You spoke to soon Dave This thread's going where angels fear to tread. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Sorting photos
I did some family portraits yesterday, and am going through and sorting them out. After making a pass to throw out all the ones that aren't perfectly, or even sufficiently in focus I wonder why I could buy a pocket camera, with a dinky embedded processor that'll find people's faces and focus on them, but I don't have something in lightroom to find people's faces and looking at edge sharpness (eyes, hair etc) rate how well focused that they are. While I wouldn't want software to rate the artistic merits of a photo, software that would rate and sort photos by various technical criteria (focus, sharpness, exposure, ...) would save me a lot of time in post processing. Sure, there are pathologic cases where you're deliberately goofing with sharpness or exposure, and there maybe some great photos that have some technical flaw, but which are still great, but for most of what I do, it would be a huge help. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Goldeneye
On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: I was walking along the Mississippi river at twilight when this little guy hopped across the path and then he just STOPPED. I popped the Tamron 90mm onto the K-7 and started snapping.. closer and closer... finally I'm right down on the ground with the lens about 8 inches away from his face. The sun had set so I was down to: ISO 800, f5.6, 1/4 second The darned thing has golden eyes! The name's Pond. James Pond. I prefer the original, Pond Connery. Dave BTW lovely shot./ Dave http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/IMGP2883.jpg -Charles -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sorting photos
Larry Colen wrote: I did some family portraits yesterday, and am going through and sorting them out. After making a pass to throw out all the ones that aren't perfectly, or even sufficiently in focus I wonder why I could buy a pocket camera, with a dinky embedded processor that'll find people's faces and focus on them, but I don't have something in lightroom to find people's faces and looking at edge sharpness (eyes, hair etc) rate how well focused that they are. While I wouldn't want software to rate the artistic merits of a photo, software that would rate and sort photos by various technical criteria (focus, sharpness, exposure, ...) would save me a lot of time in post processing. Sure, there are pathologic cases where you're deliberately goofing with sharpness or exposure, and there maybe some great photos that have some technical flaw, but which are still great, but for most of what I do, it would be a huge help. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est Sorry, Larry, but a big part of being a photographer is learning how to edit. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Florac and faunac
Bob W wrote: [...] http://www.web-options.com/Causse/ Comments welcome, but please note I already know I'm no Ansel Adams! http://www.web-options.com/Causse/content/_6226656_large.html Carline thistle Carlina acaulis http://www.web-options.com/Causse/content/_6226670_large.html Scarce swallowtail Papilio podalirius http://www.web-options.com/Causse/content/_6267019_large.html (and previous) Black-veined white Aporia crataegi I'm not even going to hazard a guess at the orchids. I'm very impressed that you got those thistles and the butterflies/moth right. When I described the swallowtail to Alastair and Masha they both immediately suggested hawk moth. Whatever. It was a lovely friendly little creature with a very graceful soaring flight, almost never flapping its wings. The orchids were quite common. Alastair seemed to like them, but also did not know more precisely what they are. I didn't even know they were orchids. Orchids are the bonobos of the plant world. If you have two species growing in a place there will be 57 different hybrids, also. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sorting photos
Capture One Pro 5 has a focus filter that highlights areas of the photo that appear to be in focus. So yes, such a thing does exist. It is however notoriously hard on processing hardware. -Adam On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I did some family portraits yesterday, and am going through and sorting them out. After making a pass to throw out all the ones that aren't perfectly, or even sufficiently in focus I wonder why I could buy a pocket camera, with a dinky embedded processor that'll find people's faces and focus on them, but I don't have something in lightroom to find people's faces and looking at edge sharpness (eyes, hair etc) rate how well focused that they are. While I wouldn't want software to rate the artistic merits of a photo, software that would rate and sort photos by various technical criteria (focus, sharpness, exposure, ...) would save me a lot of time in post processing. Sure, there are pathologic cases where you're deliberately goofing with sharpness or exposure, and there maybe some great photos that have some technical flaw, but which are still great, but for most of what I do, it would be a huge help. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Need advice - My bike was stolen
On Jul 4, 2010, at 6:13 PM, John Celio wrote: My bicycle, which was my only mode of transportation, was stolen this morning. It was locked up in front of my condo and they cut the locks like they were made of celery. This completely ruined my 4th of July, but more importantly it's a whole lot of money that suddenly needs to be spent to get back to where I was. Money I don't have. My bike was practically brand new (maybe two months old?) and I'd put a bunch of accessories on it, and now I have nothing. Ouch. Major suckage! I've read that bike thefts are a major secondary effect of the meth epidemic. I'd never leave a bike visibly parked outside for any length of time. Bolt cutters aren't expensive and make short work of locks. I'm still hurting from one night where it seems I neglected to lock my garage door, it probably got blown open a bit and a bunch of my snap-on combination wrenches were stolen. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Goldeneye
The darned thing has golden eyes! The name's Pond. James Pond. I prefer the original, Pond Connery. not Froger Moore then? B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: cycle trip
On Jul 3, 2010, at 2:03 AM, Bob W wrote: good luck, and enjoy - I'm looking forward to hearing about your trip. I tried cycling up the Causse Mejan on Tuesday - a 500m climb in 1km. Couldn't do it. Best of luck with the Himalayas! 1 km of 30% grade? That's impressive. I think that the steepest road around here is only about 24% for a short while, the whole road only climbs 630km in 6.3 km Bob -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Subash Sent: 03 July 2010 02:07 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: cycle trip On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 21:02:37 +0200 eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: good luck subash and enjoy your trip thanks Ecke for the wishes. and Paul, Stan, Bob and Evan too. the good news for me is that i have found the means to take the kx. regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - chillin' on a hot day
The temperature hit 94 degrees F today. Grace cooled off in a local lake: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11227354size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sorting photos
On Jul 5, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: Larry Colen wrote: I did some family portraits yesterday, and am going through and sorting them out. After making a pass to throw out all the ones that aren't perfectly, or even sufficiently in focus I wonder why I could buy a pocket camera, with a dinky embedded processor that'll find people's faces and focus on them, but I don't have something in lightroom to find people's faces and looking at edge sharpness (eyes, hair etc) rate how well focused that they are. While I wouldn't want software to rate the artistic merits of a photo, software that would rate and sort photos by various technical criteria (focus, sharpness, exposure, ...) would save me a lot of time in post processing. Sure, there are pathologic cases where you're deliberately goofing with sharpness or exposure, and there maybe some great photos that have some technical flaw, but which are still great, but for most of what I do, it would be a huge help. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est Sorry, Larry, but a big part of being a photographer is learning how to edit. A big part of being a photographer is knowing how to focus and set the exposure of your camera, how many pros do you think still shoot everything in full manual? I'm not looking for something that'll edit everything for me, I'm looking for something that'll speed up one of the most time consuming tasks, taking a pass through the photos, pixel peeping to see which ones really are sharp enough to blow up. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: cycle trip
good luck, and enjoy - I'm looking forward to hearing about your trip. I tried cycling up the Causse Mejan on Tuesday - a 500m climb in 1km. Couldn't do it. Best of luck with the Himalayas! 1 km of 30% grade? That's impressive. I think that the steepest road around here is only about 24% for a short while, the whole road only climbs 630km in 6.3 km it's not a particularly steep road - it's 1km as the crow flies, but it switchbacks on itself several times to keep the gradient reasonable, and ends up as 5.8km as the bike wobbles. But still too much for me on someone else's mountain bike, carrying a backpack, in 30+ degrees of heat. I hate mountain bikes - can't understand why people use them at all. http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=3858684 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Florac and faunac
On 5/7/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.web-options.com/Causse/ It's now official. I hate you. I can't tell you how jealous I am. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - chillin' on a hot day
With her looks, there will come a day when Grace will hate the paparazzi. Their cameras, however, will always love her. Jack --- On Mon, 7/5/10, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: PESO - chillin' on a hot day To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Monday, July 5, 2010, 1:42 PM The temperature hit 94 degrees F today. Grace cooled off in a local lake: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11227354size=lg --PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sorting photos
The odd thing about Adobe is where they decide to put various features. The least expensive photo editing/organizing product, Photoshop Elements 8, has this feature. It does a lot of autotagging of photos in the library. One of the tags is an out of focus tag. There are several others, too bright, too dark, etc. I'm working from memory here, so the names of the tags may be slightly different. And, from my limited experience, the tags aren't 100 percent accurate. I've often wondered how much of the lightroom catalog code may be based on the PE organizer code. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I did some family portraits yesterday, and am going through and sorting them out. After making a pass to throw out all the ones that aren't perfectly, or even sufficiently in focus I wonder why I could buy a pocket camera, with a dinky embedded processor that'll find people's faces and focus on them, but I don't have something in lightroom to find people's faces and looking at edge sharpness (eyes, hair etc) rate how well focused that they are. While I wouldn't want software to rate the artistic merits of a photo, software that would rate and sort photos by various technical criteria (focus, sharpness, exposure, ...) would save me a lot of time in post processing. Sure, there are pathologic cases where you're deliberately goofing with sharpness or exposure, and there maybe some great photos that have some technical flaw, but which are still great, but for most of what I do, it would be a huge help. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Latch
Awesome shadow, and nice colors. I love it! Dan On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Automotive minimalism. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/4761915277/lightbox/ http://snipurl.com/z0pug K20D, DA* 16-50 @ 36mm, f/5.6, 1/750th, ISO 200. Handheld. Comments welcome. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - chillin' on a hot day
Cute as always. Dan On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 4:42 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: The temperature hit 94 degrees F today. Grace cooled off in a local lake: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11227354size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sorting photos
On Jul 5, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Jul 5, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: Larry Colen wrote: I did some family portraits yesterday, and am going through and sorting them out. After making a pass to throw out all the ones that aren't perfectly, or even sufficiently in focus I wonder why I could buy a pocket camera, with a dinky embedded processor that'll find people's faces and focus on them, but I don't have something in lightroom to find people's faces and looking at edge sharpness (eyes, hair etc) rate how well focused that they are. While I wouldn't want software to rate the artistic merits of a photo, software that would rate and sort photos by various technical criteria (focus, sharpness, exposure, ...) would save me a lot of time in post processing. Sure, there are pathologic cases where you're deliberately goofing with sharpness or exposure, and there maybe some great photos that have some technical flaw, but which are still great, but for most of what I do, it would be a huge help. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est Sorry, Larry, but a big part of being a photographer is learning how to edit. A big part of being a photographer is knowing how to focus and set the exposure of your camera, how many pros do you think still shoot everything in full manual? I'm not looking for something that'll edit everything for me, I'm looking for something that'll speed up one of the most time consuming tasks, taking a pass through the photos, pixel peeping to see which ones really are sharp enough to blow up. Sharp is a judgement call. No photo is perfectly sharp. And what might be acceptably sharp for an action pic might not be acceptably shapt for a static, posed photo. And that's just the beginning. You gotta make your own calls. Software can't do that for you. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Goldeneye
Bob W wrote: The darned thing has golden eyes! The name's Pond. James Pond. I prefer the original, Pond Connery. not Froger Moore then? Nor his nemesis, Toadfinger. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sorting photos
On Jul 5, 2010, at 3:01 PM, paul stenquist wrote: On Jul 5, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Jul 5, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: Larry Colen wrote: I did some family portraits yesterday, and am going through and sorting them out. After making a pass to throw out all the ones that aren't perfectly, or even sufficiently in focus I wonder why I could buy a pocket camera, with a dinky embedded processor that'll find people's faces and focus on them, but I don't have something in lightroom to find people's faces and looking at edge sharpness (eyes, hair etc) rate how well focused that they are. While I wouldn't want software to rate the artistic merits of a photo, software that would rate and sort photos by various technical criteria (focus, sharpness, exposure, ...) would save me a lot of time in post processing. Sure, there are pathologic cases where you're deliberately goofing with sharpness or exposure, and there maybe some great photos that have some technical flaw, but which are still great, but for most of what I do, it would be a huge help. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est Sorry, Larry, but a big part of being a photographer is learning how to edit. A big part of being a photographer is knowing how to focus and set the exposure of your camera, how many pros do you think still shoot everything in full manual? I'm not looking for something that'll edit everything for me, I'm looking for something that'll speed up one of the most time consuming tasks, taking a pass through the photos, pixel peeping to see which ones really are sharp enough to blow up. Sharp is a judgement call. No photo is perfectly sharp. And what might be acceptably sharp for an action pic might not be acceptably shapt for a static, posed photo. And that's just the beginning. You gotta make your own calls. Software can't do that for you. Paul Sharp enough is a judgement call. Sharpness, on the other hand, should be quantifiable. For example, there is edge detection software that can detect the edges of various shapes. If the values change completely from one pixel to another, that would be perfectly sharp. If we rate blurriness, as the inverse of sharpness as the width of the transition, we get increasingly blurry images: (just showing one dimension) blurriness 0: 255,255,255,255,000,000,000,000 blurriness 2: 255,255,255,170,085,000,000,000 blurriness 4: 255,255,200,150,100,050,000,000 blurriness 6: 255,219,182,146,109,073,036,000 So, in some cases, you might set your threshold somewhere between 02, and in other cases between 46. However, if I have a bunch of photos that are all nearly the same, it would be handy to have the machine rate them in order of blurriness, so that I could then go and look at the sharpest couple of photos and see which ones I like the best, and spend a lot less time looking at the photos below, or well below, the threshold. I can see why detecting edges in two dimensions would be a lot more work, much less measuring the edge thickness. But when a $1,000 desktop computer has enough power that it would have given Seymour Cray a priapism, not that many years ago (assuming he was still alive anyways), a two or three pass process that finds the faces, finds the edges in the faces, and measures the blurriness of those edges shouldn't be an insurmountable problem. As a photographer, what I do with that information is up to me. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Latch
Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Awesome shadow, and nice colors. I love it! Dan Appreciated, Dan! -bmw On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Automotive minimalism. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/4761915277/lightbox/ http://snipurl.com/z0pug K20D, DA* 16-50 @ 36mm, f/5.6, 1/750th, ISO 200. Handheld. Comments welcome. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Latch
On Jul 5, 2010, at 5:46 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Automotive minimalism. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/4761915277/lightbox/ http://snipurl.com/z0pug Very nice. I can't recognize the car it's on though. K20D, DA* 16-50 @ 36mm, f/5.6, 1/750th, ISO 200. Handheld. Comments welcome. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Testing photography rules in Miami metrorail system
http://reason.com/blog/2010/07/02/ignorance-of-the-law-is-no-exc (for more detail read each of the linked blogs. Ledford's blog is actually a funny read.) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Happy Canada Day
From: P. J. Alling On 7/4/2010 6:09 PM, Bob W wrote: What matters is that he should stop interfering in matters that don't concern him. Bob What counted against him was that he was suspected of being a Nazi/German sympathizer, all else was a convenient excuse. That was Edward VIII and I don't think he was seen as a Nazi sympathizer at the time he abdicated. That came later. I think Bob's fussing about the current Prince of Wales. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Extra Bovril rations...
From: Bob W ...if you can identify this thing: http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-1.jpg http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-2.jpg http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-3.jpg Hint: it's nothing to do with executing royalty, French, British or otherwise. My guess is it's a frame for restraining young bulls for castration. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Happy Canada Day
On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 07:03:36PM -0400, John Sessoms scripsit: From: P. J. Alling On 7/4/2010 6:09 PM, Bob W wrote: What matters is that he should stop interfering in matters that don't concern him. What counted against him was that he was suspected of being a Nazi/German sympathizer, all else was a convenient excuse. That was Edward VIII and I don't think he was seen as a Nazi sympathizer at the time he abdicated. That came later. As I recall, what came out when the 50 year hold period on cabinet archives expired was that they knew there was a leak near the king, suspected a mistress, bugged the bedroom, and found out that the leak to the Nazis was the king. There was a discussion about how to deal with it that included utilizing the precedent of Headless Chuck; it was decided that abdication worked better. And then they stuck him in some Caribbean location through WWII, because he didn't quite take the hint. I think Bob's fussing about the current Prince of Wales. There are a bunch of people singing Wha'll be king but Charlie? with rather different emphasis these days, to be sure. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Latch
Larry Colen wrote: On Jul 5, 2010, at 5:46 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Automotive minimalism. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/4761915277/lightbox/ http://snipurl.com/z0pug Very nice. I can't recognize the car it's on though. I'd be *uber* impressed if you could. :) It's a Dodge Challenger R/T, but I don't recall the exact year (1970-71 I think). Somebody at the cruise told me everything about this car in humungous detail, but I was trying to decide if I had enough light for ISO 200 so I missed a few bits. So I couldn't tell you if this one was the 426cu in (7.0 L) Hemi version. The hood pins are apparently factory, not aftermarket. K20D, DA* 16-50 @ 36mm, f/5.6, 1/750th, ISO 200. Handheld. Comments welcome. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT PESO - Reach
G'day All, Another goalie shot: http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4055/4699173617_1379139c58_o.jpg D700, AF-S 70-200mm f2.8 @ 80mm, 1/160 @ f9, ISO 200 Elinchrom Ranger RX through 1x1m softbox camera right, SB28 behind goalie. Have at it. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sorting photos
paul stenquist wrote: On Jul 5, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Jul 5, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: Larry Colen wrote: I did some family portraits yesterday, and am going through and sorting them out. After making a pass to throw out all the ones that aren't perfectly, or even sufficiently in focus I wonder why I could buy a pocket camera, with a dinky embedded processor that'll find people's faces and focus on them, but I don't have something in lightroom to find people's faces and looking at edge sharpness (eyes, hair etc) rate how well focused that they are. While I wouldn't want software to rate the artistic merits of a photo, software that would rate and sort photos by various technical criteria (focus, sharpness, exposure, ...) would save me a lot of time in post processing. Sure, there are pathologic cases where you're deliberately goofing with sharpness or exposure, and there maybe some great photos that have some technical flaw, but which are still great, but for most of what I do, it would be a huge help. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est Sorry, Larry, but a big part of being a photographer is learning how to edit. A big part of being a photographer is knowing how to focus and set the exposure of your camera, how many pros do you think still shoot everything in full manual? I'm not looking for something that'll edit everything for me, I'm looking for something that'll speed up one of the most time consuming tasks, taking a pass through the photos, pixel peeping to see which ones really are sharp enough to blow up. Sharp is a judgement call. No photo is perfectly sharp. And what might be acceptably sharp for an action pic might not be acceptably shapt for a static, posed photo. And that's just the beginning. You gotta make your own calls. Software can't do that for you. Paul Paul said more nicely than I did. Photography -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sorting photos
-- From: Larry Colen Subject: Re: Sorting photos Sorry, Larry, but a big part of being a photographer is learning how to edit. A big part of being a photographer is knowing how to focus and set the exposure of your camera, how many pros do you think still shoot everything in full manual? I'm not looking for something that'll edit everything for me, I'm looking for something that'll speed up one of the most time consuming tasks, taking a pass through the photos, pixel peeping to see which ones really are sharp enough to blow up. A big part of being a technician is knowing how to set focus and exposure, and is the easiest aspect of photography. It's the quantifiable stuff. This is why so many people bitch and whine when their lens isn't perfectly sharp, or has some minor technical flaw. They've found something they can quantify. But it isn't photography. Photography is about what you see and how you translate that into something you can hold. Everything else is window dressing sent to distract us. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sorting photos
On 6 July 2010 07:17, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: -- From: Larry Colen Subject: Re: Sorting photos Sorry, Larry, but a big part of being a photographer is learning how to edit. A big part of being a photographer is knowing how to focus and set the exposure of your camera, how many pros do you think still shoot everything in full manual? I'm not looking for something that'll edit everything for me, I'm looking for something that'll speed up one of the most time consuming tasks, taking a pass through the photos, pixel peeping to see which ones really are sharp enough to blow up. A big part of being a technician is knowing how to set focus and exposure, and is the easiest aspect of photography. It's the quantifiable stuff. This is why so many people bitch and whine when their lens isn't perfectly sharp, or has some minor technical flaw. They've found something they can quantify. But it isn't photography. Photography is about what you see and how you translate that into something you can hold. Everything else is window dressing sent to distract us. What he said. DS -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sorting photos
Doug Brewer wrote: paul stenquist wrote: On Jul 5, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Jul 5, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: Larry Colen wrote: I did some family portraits yesterday, and am going through and sorting them out. After making a pass to throw out all the ones that aren't perfectly, or even sufficiently in focus I wonder why I could buy a pocket camera, with a dinky embedded processor that'll find people's faces and focus on them, but I don't have something in lightroom to find people's faces and looking at edge sharpness (eyes, hair etc) rate how well focused that they are. While I wouldn't want software to rate the artistic merits of a photo, software that would rate and sort photos by various technical criteria (focus, sharpness, exposure, ...) would save me a lot of time in post processing. Sure, there are pathologic cases where you're deliberately goofing with sharpness or exposure, and there maybe some great photos that have some technical flaw, but which are still great, but for most of what I do, it would be a huge help. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est Sorry, Larry, but a big part of being a photographer is learning how to edit. A big part of being a photographer is knowing how to focus and set the exposure of your camera, how many pros do you think still shoot everything in full manual? I'm not looking for something that'll edit everything for me, I'm looking for something that'll speed up one of the most time consuming tasks, taking a pass through the photos, pixel peeping to see which ones really are sharp enough to blow up. Sharp is a judgement call. No photo is perfectly sharp. And what might be acceptably sharp for an action pic might not be acceptably shapt for a static, posed photo. And that's just the beginning. You gotta make your own calls. Software can't do that for you. Paul Paul said more nicely than I did. Photography sorry, premature mouseclick. One of the problems with writing on one computer and reading email on the other, with one keyboard and mouse between them. Larry, I understand the frustration level, particularly now; I'm editing photos and writing essays for a book and a presentation at GFM in a scant few weeks, and I could use a shortcut or two myself. Your aspirations and methodologies may be different from mine. They probably are. But what I think is that each image deserves its own time of examination, whether on the light table or in Lightroom. It's the only way to get to know your images, and examining your images is the only way to decide what kind of photographer you are. If you let the computer decide which of your photographs are good enough for you to see, you're losing out on a very important step in your development. Hope this makes sense. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sorting photos
On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 04:18:03PM -0500, George Sinos wrote: I've often wondered how much of the lightroom catalog code may be based on the PE organizer code. Not much, if my memory serves me well. Lightroom was developed by a separate company (Macromedia), and only got renamed to Photoshop Lightroom when Adobe bought Macromedia. While the Macromedia product didn't have all the features that we find in Lightroom today, it was a complete product before any Adobe-added code found its way into the code base. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Strange Asahi NC Takumar 3,3/300mm Pentax M42 on Ebay
Thanks for sharing your historical expertise, Dario. That new photo is quite clear and informative and should satisfy anyone that the lens is not sporting its original back end. It looks to me like the lens in its original form is fixed to the IR unit, and not meant to be dismounted in normal use. The auction has ended now with no bids after 7 days. At the starting price I'm not surprised. regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) On 4 July 2010 04:53, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: In this case, I believe the IR unit usually (so to speak) seen between the lens and the Nocta body has been replaced by a simple barrel, in order to keep the register distance. See this picture I've just uploaded: www.aohc.it/images/Nocta_06.jpg Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Synchronized
Yet another flying swan pic, this one from yesterday. I was getting tired of carting around long zooms; they're so big and heavy and fiddly. So my kit was the *istD, the Pentax M 200mm f4.0 and the Tamron SP 90mm f2.5 Macro. Both nice light, easy to carry lenses. I'm quite impressed with the M 200mm. It's noticeably sharper than either zoom I use. This photo is about a 25% crop (is that right? I mean to say I cropped out about 75% of the original frame). Given that amount cropped, plus I was shooting manual focus and panning, I'm pretty happy with how sharp this is: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/synchronized.html I'm happier with this than the flying swan pic from the other day taken with the heavy Tokina 80-200mm f2.8 zoom: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/swans-on-wing.html Anyway, hope you like. Comment if you will. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO -- The Artist
Went to a fireworks display to celebrate the Glorious Forth. Took the
K20D for crowd shots and the *ist-Ds to mount on a tripod to shoot the
fireworks themselves. The clouds at sunset were spectacular, and I took
a few shots of them but I also took a few shots of the stranger denizens
of a summer resort town at a large public event. This one especially
tickled my funnybone.
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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20theartist.html
Equipment: Pentax K20D w/vmc Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm f2.8~4.0 (Version 3)
As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
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Re: Pentax gear...
On 7/5/2010 2:49 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
David J Brooks wrote:
On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
So many pun-chures.
You spoke to soon
Dave
This thread's going where angels fear to tread.
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It's already gone down the tube.
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Re: OT: Happy Canada Day
On 7/5/2010 7:03 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: P. J. Alling
On 7/4/2010 6:09 PM, Bob W wrote:
What matters is that he should stop interfering in matters that don't
concern him.
Bob
What counted against him was that he was suspected of being a
Nazi/German sympathizer, all else was a convenient excuse.
That was Edward VIII and I don't think he was seen as a Nazi
sympathizer at the time he abdicated. That came later.
I think Bob's fussing about the current Prince of Wales.
I thought it was both actually...
I'm also sure that Edward's sympathies were well known in the right circles.
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Re: PESO - Synchronized
Nice work. I agree in regard to the M200/4. It's a lot of lens in a small package. Paul On Jul 5, 2010, at 8:28 PM, frank theriault wrote: Yet another flying swan pic, this one from yesterday. I was getting tired of carting around long zooms; they're so big and heavy and fiddly. So my kit was the *istD, the Pentax M 200mm f4.0 and the Tamron SP 90mm f2.5 Macro. Both nice light, easy to carry lenses. I'm quite impressed with the M 200mm. It's noticeably sharper than either zoom I use. This photo is about a 25% crop (is that right? I mean to say I cropped out about 75% of the original frame). Given that amount cropped, plus I was shooting manual focus and panning, I'm pretty happy with how sharp this is: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/synchronized.html I'm happier with this than the flying swan pic from the other day taken with the heavy Tokina 80-200mm f2.8 zoom: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/swans-on-wing.html Anyway, hope you like. Comment if you will. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Synchronized
The M200 is a wonderful lens, and you've made very good use of it. Oh
and by way I hate you.
On 7/5/2010 8:28 PM, frank theriault wrote:
Yet another flying swan pic, this one from yesterday. I was getting
tired of carting around long zooms; they're so big and heavy and
fiddly. So my kit was the *istD, the Pentax M 200mm f4.0 and the
Tamron SP 90mm f2.5 Macro. Both nice light, easy to carry lenses.
I'm quite impressed with the M 200mm. It's noticeably sharper than
either zoom I use. This photo is about a 25% crop (is that right? I
mean to say I cropped out about 75% of the original frame). Given
that amount cropped, plus I was shooting manual focus and panning, I'm
pretty happy with how sharp this is:
http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/synchronized.html
I'm happier with this than the flying swan pic from the other day
taken with the heavy Tokina 80-200mm f2.8 zoom:
http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/swans-on-wing.html
Anyway, hope you like. Comment if you will.
cheers,
frank
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Re: Pentax gear...
Where's a Vilcan when you need one?
On Monday, July 5, 2010, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
On 7/5/2010 2:49 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
David J Brooks wrote:
On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
So many pun-chures.
You spoke to soon
Dave
This thread's going where angels fear to tread.
-bmw
It's already gone down the tube.
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Re: Sorting photos
first I've ever heard of a relationship like that, john. And counter to my direct experience with the development team in 2003-2004. On Monday, July 5, 2010, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 04:18:03PM -0500, George Sinos wrote: I've often wondered how much of the lightroom catalog code may be based on the PE organizer code. Not much, if my memory serves me well. Lightroom was developed by a separate company (Macromedia), and only got renamed to Photoshop Lightroom when Adobe bought Macromedia. While the Macromedia product didn't have all the features that we find in Lightroom today, it was a complete product before any Adobe-added code found its way into the code base. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sorting photos
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:09 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 04:18:03PM -0500, George Sinos wrote: I've often wondered how much of the lightroom catalog code may be based on the PE organizer code. Not much, if my memory serves me well. Lightroom was developed by a separate company (Macromedia), and only got renamed to Photoshop Lightroom when Adobe bought Macromedia. While the Macromedia product didn't have all the features that we find in Lightroom today, it was a complete product before any Adobe-added code found its way into the code base. Nope, Lightroom was developed by Adobe in-house. It was in fact developed by a large portion of the ImageReady team and is the pet project of longtime Photoshop developer Mark Hamburg who'd been working on the idea since 2002. It had nothing to do with Macromedia. The confusion comes from a RAW converter application whose developer Adobe bought out in 2006 and whose customers all got free copies of LR1 to compensate for the ending of development of the converter (paid versions included lifetime upgrades). I don't recall offhand the name of the software though. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax gear...
Tired of this already. --Original Message-- From: Roman Melihhov Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net To: pdml ReplyTo: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Pentax gear... Sent: Jul 4, 2010 12:15 PM http://4models.info/images/0.en.png Just fun, I use this image for model candidates without photos on file. K20D, DA 10-17, D-XENON 18-55, DA* 16-50, FA 50 F1.4, DA 50-200, ELINCHROM, BOWENS more @ roman.blakout.net | roman.4models.info -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sorting photos
Raw Shooter Professional. The free product was Raw Shooter Essentials,
Adobe bought them out and stopped development just when I decided to buy
the Professional product. It was simple didn't lock you into any
particular way of archiving and produced extremely good conversions, and
promoted a very efficient work flow with batch processing..
On 7/5/2010 9:34 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:09 PM, John Francisjo...@panix.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 04:18:03PM -0500, George Sinos wrote:
I've often wondered how much of the lightroom catalog code may be
based on the PE organizer code.
Not much, if my memory serves me well.
Lightroom was developed by a separate company (Macromedia), and only
got renamed to Photoshop Lightroom when Adobe bought Macromedia.
While the Macromedia product didn't have all the features that we find
in Lightroom today, it was a complete product before any Adobe-added
code found its way into the code base.
Nope, Lightroom was developed by Adobe in-house. It was in fact
developed by a large portion of the ImageReady team and is the pet
project of longtime Photoshop developer Mark Hamburg who'd been
working on the idea since 2002. It had nothing to do with Macromedia.
The confusion comes from a RAW converter application whose developer
Adobe bought out in 2006 and whose customers all got free copies of
LR1 to compensate for the ending of development of the converter (paid
versions included lifetime upgrades). I don't recall offhand the name
of the software though.
-Adam
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Re: Sorting photos
History of Lightroom development encapsulated here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Photoshop_Lightroom -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sorting photos
That was it. I remember seriously considering buying it at the time.
Ended up going with Capture One somewhat later for much the same
reasons (No organizational lockin, VERY good conversions, very good
for bathc processing).
-Adam
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Raw Shooter Professional. The free product was Raw Shooter Essentials,
Adobe bought them out and stopped development just when I decided to buy the
Professional product. It was simple didn't lock you into any particular way
of archiving and produced extremely good conversions, and promoted a very
efficient work flow with batch processing..
On 7/5/2010 9:34 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:09 PM, John Francisjo...@panix.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 04:18:03PM -0500, George Sinos wrote:
I've often wondered how much of the lightroom catalog code may be
based on the PE organizer code.
Not much, if my memory serves me well.
Lightroom was developed by a separate company (Macromedia), and only
got renamed to Photoshop Lightroom when Adobe bought Macromedia.
While the Macromedia product didn't have all the features that we find
in Lightroom today, it was a complete product before any Adobe-added
code found its way into the code base.
Nope, Lightroom was developed by Adobe in-house. It was in fact
developed by a large portion of the ImageReady team and is the pet
project of longtime Photoshop developer Mark Hamburg who'd been
working on the idea since 2002. It had nothing to do with Macromedia.
The confusion comes from a RAW converter application whose developer
Adobe bought out in 2006 and whose customers all got free copies of
LR1 to compensate for the ending of development of the converter (paid
versions included lifetime upgrades). I don't recall offhand the name
of the software though.
-Adam
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