PESO -- Duck, Duck, GOOSE?

[P. J. Alling]

Well some time ago I posted a shot that I considered something of a 
failure.  I was watching the scene that I wanted to capture come 
together in the viewfinder, when a bystander leaned into the shot, 
realized what he had done, and said "Sorry".  Well something similar 
happened again. But this time the culprit was one of Frank's "Friends".


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20duckduckgoose.html

Equipment:  Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 28-200 f3.8~5.6.

OK, if it weren't for the title I probably wouldn't have bothered to 
post it.


As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

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Re: Lenses again

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I've owned and used all but the A80-200 in that list. The A28/2.8 is
what I'd go for first, the A70-210/4 afterwards.
(I'm not a big zoom user, had that lens and only rarely used it. But
it was a very nice performer.)

The A35-70/4 was only just "OK" far as I'm concerned, the the
80-200/4.7-5.6 too slow.

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:
>
> I passed on the K28/F3.5 that was on sale on eBay recently. It seems to be 
> unanimous that it's a great lens, but I just couldn't afford the price being 
> asked. I'm cogitating the following possibilities: A28/F2.8, A35-70/F4, 
> A70-210/F4, and A80-200/F4.7-5.6.
>
> Thanks for all the feedback on lenses yesterday, especially, but not only, 
> Stan Halpin's website.
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Re: Lightroom 3

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Glad you're enjoying it. I found it quite intuitive too, right from
the beginning in 2005-2006 when it was still in early beta.

BTW: My new workshop proposal was accepted by the Media Center folks
on Friday. I should have the first 6-8 workshops written up and to
them by Wednesday. I'm looking forward to this. :-)

I'll post announcements when the schedule's on the web ...

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Re: What you all missed

[Rick Womer]

--- On Sat, 7/17/10, Bob W  wrote:

> The exhibition is incredibly depressing. What's the point
> of being a
> photographer when someone like McCurry is so damned good? 

Mark!


  


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Re: PESO - In the fountain

[Bruce Dayton]

Almost a superb shot.  For the little cut off on the top of her head, it is 
merely a great shot.  You caught the emotion perfectly.
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Re: PESO 2010 - 115 - GDG

[P. J. Alling]

On 7/17/2010 7:48 PM, Cotty wrote:

On 16/7/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

   

Another photo, another blog post for you:

  http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/of-time-and-place

Comments always appreciated, thanks for looking. :-)
 

Much nicer than a leaf and a crack ;-)
   


Wouldn't depend on who's crack?


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Re: 2 touch?

[P. J. Alling]

On 7/17/2010 4:02 PM, Eric Weir wrote:

What is meant when a lens is described as "2 touch," e.g., 35-70 F4 SMC A (58) 
2 TOUCH ZOOM.

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What everybody else said.

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Re: OT: Tales from the bike shed

[Anthony Farr]

It's not the most elegant looking bicycle, but it should cause most
thieves to skip it for easier pickings futher down the rack:

http://inhabitat.com/2010/07/09/this-bendable-bike-can-tie-itself-to-any-post/

Or else you could ride one of those basic Dutch or Chinese bikes that
are so cheap and ugly and utilitarian that you would hardly even need
to lock it up.

regards, Anthony

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On 16to overlook it for some easier pickings further down the rack
July 2010 22:53, Bob W  wrote:
> A couple of interesting stories for the PDML Bike SIG:
>
> Jon Snow, a well-known TV news anchorman who made his name reporting the
> Vietnam war, is also the president of the CTC (Cyclists' Touring Club,
> oldest cycling org in the world). He's had his bike stolen (again!) from
> outside his office. So it can happen to anyone. He's offering a £1,000
> reward for its return. It's a hand-built titanium Condor.
>  len++again/3709197>
>
> What is perhaps more interesting and useful for us mortals is a site called
>  which is an aggregator of Bike For Sale notices
> posted on Gumtree and eBay - a useful place to look if your own bike is
> nicked.
>
> Also, 13th July was the anniversary of the death, from an excess of special
> go-faster cycling sherbet, of British rider Tom Simpson in 1967's Tour de
> France. There's a World Service radio programme about it on iPlayer
>  e_France/>
>
> Cheers,
> Norman Tebbit's Dad.
>
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Re: iPad

[steve harley]

On 2010-07-17 09:17 , Adam Maas wrote:

Media playing is something the iPad does well, most smartphones are
competent as well.


well, the iPad's a _bit_ better at visual media ..

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Re: iPad

[steve harley]

On 2010-07-17 12:30 , Igor Roshchin wrote:

(I don't use web-interface for reading e-mail, rather it is
either shell-based, such as alpine, or Thunderbird)


the email application on iPad is not webmail; it is not nearly as slick 
as Thunderbird but it's got some things in common; people who use 
shell-based email tools are a tiny minority (i was one in the late 70s), 
but the solution i'd propose is something like using the iSSH app to ssh 
into another machine where you could run alpine (if you jailbreak your 
iPad, you could ssh into the iPad's shell, but you'd have to compile 
your own version of alpine)



For the 1) above, - the lack of keyboard was definitely a hindering
factor.


any bluetooth keyboard will work, or a USB one if you buy the dock; it's 
an extra item but easy to keep one where you do "real work" and leave it 
behind for portable use



and lack
of multitasking (I know, there is a hack that allows to enable that -
so that you can listen to built-in iPod while doing something else, but
I was not going to bother.)


the specific capability you note is not a hack it's a default capability 
of the iPad (and iPhone and iPod Touch) to play music while running 
other apps; general multitasking is not there -- that's part of why the 
battery lasts so long


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Pentax W90

[Nick Wright]

Does anyone own one of these compact cameras?

I'd like to ask some specific questions about the camera's modes etc.

Thanks!

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Re: Peso Anno sensei bowing

[Brian Walters]

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 09:31 -0700, "Larry Colen"  wrote:
> > I confess that out of laziness I hadn't uploaded the final version to 
> > flickr. When I went back to print it, I tweaked it slightly, pretty much 
> > exactly as you said:
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4802263252/
> 
> Then, after posting the last, looked at the photo again and went for a
> much tighter crop:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4802285668/
> 
> The photo in the upper right is O Sensei, the founder of aikido, and the
> calligraphy, written by O sensei translates to "True Victory is Self
> Victory", which are critical elements to "the place".  I think that I
> prefer the less tightly cropped version, which lends a bit more
> spareness, and the feeling of traditional Japanese austerity.
> 
> Comments?



I prefer the less tightly cropped version but it probably needs to be
seen as a largish print.  On a monitor the figure is still quite small
and undefined unless you view the large version, but then you have to
scroll and can't appreciate the whole image.



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Re: More Peso's Plowing demo

[Bob Sullivan]

Bob,
Farms in the USA started out under 100 acres.
They were what one family could clear and work with an animal.
As mechanical farm implements became more common, farms grew in size.
>From 1900 to 2000, farm equipment became very efficient.
And on the great plaines, you can farm 1,000+ acres with the right equipment.
As farmers invested in more expensive capital equipment,
they looked to farm more acres to maximize the use of their equipment.
That's why farms are so big in the midwest and western USA.
Regards,  Bob S.


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>>
>> There was/is an Amish community near where my grandfather farmed and
>> where I spent much of my life that continues -- east central Illinois -
>> - to farm profitably with horses today -- and on farms that are
>> unimaginably small -- often less than a 100 acres, rarely more than 200
>> -- to the industrialized farmers of the region.
>
> That doesn't sound very small to me, so I googled it. It's quite small by US
> standards, but not by the standards of other parts of the world. Here are
> some figures for the EU, from
> 
>
> "EU farms are, on average, considerably smaller than U.S. farms. In 2007,
> the average farm size in the EU-15 was 46.2 acres, whereas the average farm
> size in the United States was 418 acres. The addition of 12 new member
> states with smaller farm sizes than the EU-15 makes U.S. average farm size
> more than 12 times that of the average EU-27 farm of 34.1 acres. However,
> farm size varies greatly by country, ranging from an average of 171 acres in
> the United Kingdom to 7.2 acres in Hungary."
>
> It's very interesting to see people working on these tiny little farms in
> Eastern Europe and elsewhere because it's such small scale. Africa and Asia
> are even smaller.
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Re: The Great Life Photographers--a book recommendation

[Adam Maas]

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 7:17 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> From: Stan Halpin
>>
>> Don't imply to Christine that there is such a thing as too many books.
>
> There can, however, be more books than the budget will stretch to
> accommodate.
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No such thing. Now shelving on the other hand

-Adam
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Re: GESO - Keeping Close Watch

[Brian Walters]

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 15:11 -0400, "frank theriault"
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> Here's one from my nature walk this morning.  Not much exotic in the
> fauna category, but it's always fun to watch a duck and her ducklings
> toodling about a pond:
> 
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/keeping-close-watch.html
> 
> Actually I wonder if they're all hers:  I counted as many as eight
> ducklings in one of the frames.  Could she have "adopted" some
> orphans?  Maybe she's babysitting whilst a friend "sleeps on off"?
> 


Very cute.

They probably are all hers.  Some of the wood ducks around here will
regularly produce up to a dozen (sometimes more) ducklings.  Presumably
quantity allows for the inevitable losses to foxes, hawks, reptiles,
cats etc.



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Re: PESO - In the fountain

[Brian Walters]

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 16:39 -0400, "P N Stenquist"
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> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11284350
> 


Not a care in the world - great, fun shot!



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Re: Lightroom 3

[Eric Weir]

On Jul 17, 2010, at 7:35 PM, Eric Weir wrote:

> I downloaded Lightroom 3 for a 300 day trial . . . .

I wish! That shoulda been 30, of course.

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Re: PESO - In the fountain

[paul stenquist]

Thanks Jack. We had a good day.
Paul


On Jul 17, 2010, at 6:31 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

> Beautifully pictured delirium of youth. Another artful catch, Paul!
> 
> Jack
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>> From: P N Stenquist 
>> Subject: PESO - In the fountain
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Date: Saturday, July 17, 2010, 1:39 PM
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11284350
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Re: PESO - In the fountain

[paul stenquist]

On Jul 17, 2010, at 5:55 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

> P N Stenquist wrote:
> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11284350
>> 
> that's a keeper!
> sell, sell!
> 

Thanks Ann. I'm always selling:-)
Paul


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Lenses again

[Eric Weir]

I passed on the K28/F3.5 that was on sale on eBay recently. It seems to be 
unanimous that it's a great lens, but I just couldn't afford the price being 
asked. I'm cogitating the following possibilities: A28/F2.8, A35-70/F4, 
A70-210/F4, and A80-200/F4.7-5.6.

Thanks for all the feedback on lenses yesterday, especially, but not only, Stan 
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Re: PESO 2010 - 115 - GDG

[Cotty]

On 16/7/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Another photo, another blog post for you:
>
>  http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/of-time-and-place
>
>Comments always appreciated, thanks for looking. :-)

Much nicer than a leaf and a crack ;-)

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Re: Peso Anno sensei bowing

[Cotty]

On 17/7/10, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Our dojo

that like a mojo for delinquents or what?

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Re: PDML visit to Brum

[Cotty]

On 18/7/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Let me know in advance next time so I can suck my gut in...
>
>http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/BrumPDML2010/slides/_IGP3873.html
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I wouldn't worry as that tablecloth does a good job.


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Re: iPad

[Cotty]

On 17/7/10, Igor Roshchin, discombobulated, unleashed:

>It's rather interesting that it was this past week that I got my hands
>on a demo iPad for about 4 days. My impression was that it looked
>and felt cool, but mostly useless.

One of my clients has one, and so I've had a play, and we even used it
as a prompting device under the camera lens while doing PTC's for her
suite of wedding planning apps.

Not that I can afford one but I would definitely have one, mainly for
showing clients projects and showreels etc. I tried writing emails and
it does work, but I love a normal 'physical' keyboard first and
foremost. Web browsing was excellent. Couldn't think of any other uses
for it though.

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Lightroom 3

[Eric Weir]

I downloaded Lightroom 3 for a 300 day trial a couple days ago. After reading 
one of Godfrey DiGirorgi's articles on file organization and naming, I set up 
my files, which are not extensive at this point, and imported a couple of 
folders.

I see what people were saying about Lightroom, at least about Lightroom 3. I 
will be proceeding with caution, so's I don't commit any irretrievable errors, 
but it is so intuitive -- much more so than iPhoto, Elements, or Bridge. Just 
wish I could claim to be a student. 

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Re: iPad

[Cotty]

On 17/7/10, Toine, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I am currently testing an iPad for work. This thing is amazing and
>even more amazing for pictures, The screen is just perfect.
>My favorite web app slideshowpro now supports the iPad.
>Http://www.repiuk.NL/mobile

I'll forward this to William Robb in the outside chance you're killfiled.

Then again, I may be too

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Re: GESO - Keeping Close Watch

[Cotty]

On 17/7/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Normally people should
>keep their duck shots to themselves

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RE: PDML visit to Brum

[Bob W]

Har!


> Bob,
> 
> Don't worry - with the Leica hanging down who would even look at your
> gut? :-)
> 
> Cesar
> Panama City, Florida
> 
> Bob W wrote:
> > Let me know in advance next time so I can suck my gut in...
> >
> > http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/BrumPDML2010/slides/_IGP3873.html
> >
> >
> >
> >> I concur with Bob - a most enjoyable day. The McCurry retrospective
> was
> >> seriously high quality and the Birmingham art gallery well worth a
> >> visit.
> >>
> >> My DA* 16-50 2.8 is away having its AF motor replaced (out of
> warranty
> >> so
> >> costing GBP120) so I went prime for the day. The following were
> taken
> >> with a
> >> mix of FA 50/1.7, FA135/2.8 and my copy of the recently famous
> Pentax-A
> >> 28/2.8:
> >> http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/BrumPDML2010/
> >>
> >> Chris



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Re: More Peso's Plowing demo

[Eric Weir]

On Jul 17, 2010, at 5:59 PM, Bob W wrote:

> In 2007,
> the average farm size in the EU-15 was 46.2 acres, whereas the average farm
> size in the United States was 418 acres.

If you calculated the average farm size in the Midwest, the agricultural 
breadbasket of the country, my guess is the average size would be considerably 
larger. In Central Illinois, where I'm from, 500 acres would be considered 
small, and possibly not of sufficient size to provide a decent income to a 
family. In this area more and more farming is becoming corporate, and those 
"farms" would be MUCH larger.   

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Re: PDML visit to Brum

[Cesar Matamoros II]

Bob,

Don't worry - with the Leica hanging down who would even look at your 
gut? :-)


Cesar
Panama City, Florida

Bob W wrote:

Let me know in advance next time so I can suck my gut in...

http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/BrumPDML2010/slides/_IGP3873.html


  

I concur with Bob - a most enjoyable day. The McCurry retrospective was
seriously high quality and the Birmingham art gallery well worth a
visit.

My DA* 16-50 2.8 is away having its AF motor replaced (out of warranty
so
costing GBP120) so I went prime for the day. The following were taken
with a
mix of FA 50/1.7, FA135/2.8 and my copy of the recently famous Pentax-A
28/2.8:
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/BrumPDML2010/

Chris






  


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Re: The Great Life Photographers--a book recommendation

[John Sessoms]

From: Stan Halpin

Don't imply to Christine that there is such a thing as too many books.


There can, however, be more books than the budget will stretch to 
accommodate.


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RE: PDML visit to Brum

[Bob W]

Let me know in advance next time so I can suck my gut in...

http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/BrumPDML2010/slides/_IGP3873.html


> 
> I concur with Bob - a most enjoyable day. The McCurry retrospective was
> seriously high quality and the Birmingham art gallery well worth a
> visit.
> 
> My DA* 16-50 2.8 is away having its AF motor replaced (out of warranty
> so
> costing GBP120) so I went prime for the day. The following were taken
> with a
> mix of FA 50/1.7, FA135/2.8 and my copy of the recently famous Pentax-A
> 28/2.8:
> http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/BrumPDML2010/
> 
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Re: Peso Anno sensei bowing

[John Sessoms]

I've been trying to figure this out for a while, and finally noticed 
it's BOWING, not BOWLING.


Sheee!

And I HAVE got new glasses ...

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PDML visit to Brum

[Chris Mitchell]

I concur with Bob - a most enjoyable day. The McCurry retrospective was
seriously high quality and the Birmingham art gallery well worth a visit.

My DA* 16-50 2.8 is away having its AF motor replaced (out of warranty so
costing GBP120) so I went prime for the day. The following were taken with a
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28/2.8:
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/BrumPDML2010/

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Re: GESO - Keeping Close Watch

[Jack Davis]

Uhhuh..is so Ann. Well, OK, maybe blue-green. Compare the feather color in 
each. Also, apparent in the water.
Could it be your personal rods and cones? ;)

Jack

--- On Sat, 7/17/10, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

> From: Ann Sanfedele 
> Subject: Re: GESO - Keeping Close Watch
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Saturday, July 17, 2010, 3:01 PM
> Jack Davis wrote:
> 
> >AAWW-some shots, Frank! Wonder why the first (top) shot
> has a distinct green tint.(?)
> >
> >Jack
> >
> 
> Ok, Jack -- time to get your eyes checked or your monitor
> calibrated... :-)
> 
> Or maybe my monitor is just more like Franks... anyway - no
> green cast 
> here...
> 
> ann
> 
> >
> >--- On Sat, 7/17/10, frank theriault 
> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>From: frank theriault 
> >>Subject: GESO - Keeping Close Watch
> >>To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> >>Date: Saturday, July 17, 2010, 12:11 PM
> >>Here's one from my nature walk this
> >>morning.  Not much exotic in the
> >>fauna category, but it's always fun to watch a duck
> and her
> >>ducklings
> >>toodling about a pond:
> >>
> >>http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/keeping-close-watch.html
> >>
> >>Actually I wonder if they're all hers:  I
> counted as
> >>many as eight
> >>ducklings in one of the frames.  Could she
> have
> >>"adopted" some
> >>orphans?  Maybe she's babysitting whilst a
> friend
> >>"sleeps on off"?
> >>
> >>;-)
> >>
> >>*istD, M200mm f4.0, Manfrotto monopod.
> >>
> >>Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.
> >>
> >>cheers,
> >>frank
> >>
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> >>"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri
> >>Cartier-Bresson
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RE: 2 touch? What do you prefer?

[J.C. O'Connell]

by definition zoom lenses hold focus while
zooming. If they don't they arent zooms,
they are varifocal which are rare, not common.
Im sure there are some cheapo zooms that don't
hold focus properly but I would call those
attempted zooms falling to varifocal not
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J.C. O'Connell wrote:


>I tend to like 2 touch zooms over 1 touch
> because sometimes in zooming a 1 touch you may accidentally  alter the 
>focus when you don't want to.  I like to focus at the longest end of 
>the zoom  range and then adjust the zoom setting for the
> composition last.

Provided it stays focused. A true zoom should keep focus as you change its 
focal length. That can be achieved by some kind(s) of optical/mechanical 
compensation for focus shift. On the other hand, a generic varifocal lens is

not required to do that. However, many so-called zooms are varifocals, with 
some extent of focus shift throughout their focal length range. One of the 
reasons for making 1-touch zooms was allowing/forcing the photographer to 
perform the required compensation for the focus shift of the varifocal lens.

For that reason, 1-touch zooms were so much in fashion in the pre-AF era. 
With AF cameras, that problem is less important, as focusing is performed 
after selecting the focal length.

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Re: peso "everybody's a critic"

[Doug Franklin]

On 2010-07-17 18:27, Larry Colen wrote:


Which I'm trying to figure out how to mount so that it isn't also a squirrel 
feeder.


Levitation and an active defense system?

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Re: PESO - In the fountain

[Jack Davis]

Beautifully pictured delirium of youth. Another artful catch, Paul!

Jack

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> From: P N Stenquist 
> Subject: PESO - In the fountain
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Saturday, July 17, 2010, 1:39 PM
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11284350
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Re: peso "everybody's a critic"

[Larry Colen]

On Jul 17, 2010, at 2:05 AM, Madame RD wrote:

> Le 16/07/10 07:03, Larry Colen a écrit :
>> All sorts of things wrong with this on a technical level, but still, it made 
>> me chuckle:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4798505534/
>> 
>> --
>> Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est
>>   
> 
> and chuckle I did . What was it perched on ?

My bird feeder.

Which I'm trying to figure out how to mount so that it isn't also a squirrel 
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Re: 2 touch?

[Richard D Bush]

Do the push-pull-twist zoom/focus rings help these lenses be any  
better in tune than the average trombonist?


RB

On Jul 17, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Bob W wrote:

What is meant when a lens is described as "2 touch," e.g., 35-70 F4  
SMC

A (58) 2 TOUCH ZOOM.



it means the zoom ring and the focus ring are separate. Some lenses,  
such as

the 70-210/4, use the same ring for both - to zoom you push/pull like a
trombone, to focus you twist


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Re: 2 touch? What do you prefer?

[Ann Sanfedele]

Ann Sanfedele wrote:


J.C. O'Connell wrote:


I tend to like 2 touch zooms over 1 touch
because sometimes in zooming a 1 touch you may accidentally
alter the focus when you don't want to.
I like to focus at the longest end of the zoom
range and then adjust the zoom setting for the
composition last.

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Me too, I've lost a lot of possibly good stuff with the one touch 
going out of focus...
OTOH, sometimes I triet to focus with the soom and soom with the focus 
in a moment  of "oh gosh I gotta get this shot!"


ann 



UGH -- make that ''zoom and zoom.".. :-)  but the typo oddly illustrates 
the point


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Re: 2 touch? What do you prefer?

[Ann Sanfedele]

J.C. O'Connell wrote:


I tend to like 2 touch zooms over 1 touch
because sometimes in zooming a 1 touch you may accidentally
alter the focus when you don't want to.
I like to focus at the longest end of the zoom
range and then adjust the zoom setting for the
composition last.

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Me too, I've lost a lot of possibly good stuff with the one touch going 
out of focus...
OTOH, sometimes I triet to focus with the soom and soom with the focus 
in a moment

of "oh gosh I gotta get this shot!"

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Re: GESO - Keeping Close Watch

[Ann Sanfedele]

Jack Davis wrote:


AAWW-some shots, Frank! Wonder why the first (top) shot has a distinct green 
tint.(?)

Jack



Ok, Jack -- time to get your eyes checked or your monitor calibrated... :-)

Or maybe my monitor is just more like Franks... anyway - no green cast 
here...


ann



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From: frank theriault 
Subject: GESO - Keeping Close Watch
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Date: Saturday, July 17, 2010, 12:11 PM
Here's one from my nature walk this
morning.  Not much exotic in the
fauna category, but it's always fun to watch a duck and her
ducklings
toodling about a pond:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/keeping-close-watch.html

Actually I wonder if they're all hers:  I counted as
many as eight
ducklings in one of the frames.  Could she have
"adopted" some
orphans?  Maybe she's babysitting whilst a friend
"sleeps on off"?

;-)

*istD, M200mm f4.0, Manfrotto monopod.

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

cheers,
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RE: More Peso's Plowing demo

[Bob W]

[...]
> 
> There was/is an Amish community near where my grandfather farmed and
> where I spent much of my life that continues -- east central Illinois -
> - to farm profitably with horses today -- and on farms that are
> unimaginably small -- often less than a 100 acres, rarely more than 200
> -- to the industrialized farmers of the region.

That doesn't sound very small to me, so I googled it. It's quite small by US
standards, but not by the standards of other parts of the world. Here are
some figures for the EU, from


"EU farms are, on average, considerably smaller than U.S. farms. In 2007,
the average farm size in the EU-15 was 46.2 acres, whereas the average farm
size in the United States was 418 acres. The addition of 12 new member
states with smaller farm sizes than the EU-15 makes U.S. average farm size
more than 12 times that of the average EU-27 farm of 34.1 acres. However,
farm size varies greatly by country, ranging from an average of 171 acres in
the United Kingdom to 7.2 acres in Hungary."

It's very interesting to see people working on these tiny little farms in
Eastern Europe and elsewhere because it's such small scale. Africa and Asia
are even smaller.

B


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Re: GESO - Keeping Close Watch

[Ann Sanfedele]

frank theriault wrote:


Here's one from my nature walk this morning.  Not much exotic in the
fauna category, but it's always fun to watch a duck and her ducklings
toodling about a pond:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/keeping-close-watch.html

Actually I wonder if they're all hers:  I counted as many as eight
ducklings in one of the frames.  Could she have "adopted" some
orphans?  Maybe she's babysitting whilst a friend "sleeps on off"?

;-)

*istD, M200mm f4.0, Manfrotto monopod.

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

cheers,
frank

 

Did you get a model's release?  
These are really sweet, Frank...  great catches , both...


But if you keep up with this kind of stuff, you'll ruin your reputation :-)

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Re: PESO - In the fountain

[Ann Sanfedele]

P N Stenquist wrote:


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11284350


that's a keeper!
sell, sell!

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Re: 2 touch? What do you prefer?

[Dario Bonazza]

J.C. O'Connell wrote:



I tend to like 2 touch zooms over 1 touch
because sometimes in zooming a 1 touch you may accidentally
alter the focus when you don't want to.
I like to focus at the longest end of the zoom
range and then adjust the zoom setting for the
composition last.


Provided it stays focused. A true zoom should keep focus as you change its 
focal length. That can be achieved by some kind(s) of optical/mechanical 
compensation for focus shift. On the other hand, a generic varifocal lens is 
not required to do that. However, many so-called zooms are varifocals, with 
some extent of focus shift throughout their focal length range. One of the 
reasons for making 1-touch zooms was allowing/forcing the photographer to 
perform the required compensation for the focus shift of the varifocal lens. 
For that reason, 1-touch zooms were so much in fashion in the pre-AF era. 
With AF cameras, that problem is less important, as focusing is performed 
after selecting the focal length.


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Re: More Peso's Plowing demo

[Eric Weir]

On Jul 17, 2010, at 8:15 AM, frank theriault wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:58 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>> Did three more whilst waiting for my wedding photos to copy onto the PC.
>> 
>> Single furrow
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11278330
>> 
>> Hay rack
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11278333
>> 
>> Cut wheat
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11278335

I love em all -- as much for the subject as photos. I remember my grandfather 
hanging onto his horses and continuing to use them for certain tasks before he 
abandoned them altogether for tractors. My brother would have loved em, too. He 
used to go around the state to events like this with his camera. 

I regret not taking my grandfather up on his offer to start farming with him, 
though, thanks to the wonderful "benefits" of technology, farming has become a 
rat race for many today.

There was/is an Amish community near where my grandfather farmed and where I 
spent much of my life that continues -- east central Illinois -- to farm 
profitably with horses today -- and on farms that are unimaginably small -- 
often less than a 100 acres, rarely more than 200 -- to the industrialized 
farmers of the region. 

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RE: 2 touch? Twist for focus

[J.C. O'Connell]

No, with 1 touch zooms, the push pull
is almost always for zooming not focus.
Focus is achieved by twisting the 1 ring.

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-Original Message-
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Weir
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 5:24 PM
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On Jul 17, 2010, at 4:08 PM, Adam Maas wrote:

> A two-touch lens has a zoom ring and a focus ring where as a 1-touch 
> lens has push-pull zoom and traditionally the push-pull portion 
> functions as the focus ring for manual lenses

Thanks, Adam. Also Bob and Ecke.


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RE: 2 touch? What do you prefer?

[J.C. O'Connell]

I tend to like 2 touch zooms over 1 touch
because sometimes in zooming a 1 touch you may accidentally
alter the focus when you don't want to.
I like to focus at the longest end of the zoom
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composition last.

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Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 4:17 PM
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Subject: RE: 2 touch?


> What is meant when a lens is described as "2 touch," e.g., 35-70 F4 
> SMC A (58) 2 TOUCH ZOOM.
> 

it means the zoom ring and the focus ring are separate. Some lenses, such as
the 70-210/4, use the same ring for both - to zoom you push/pull like a
trombone, to focus you twist


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Re: PESO: No Risque, no fun

[Ralf R. Radermacher]

Igor Roshchin  wrote:

> It's hard to reference them uniquely, as the numbering changes 
> (I think I wrote once that I wish you had the numbers staying put).

It's the site that does the numbering. Each time I upload a new image,
it automatically becomes number 1 and the rest goes one up.

Nothing I can do about it.

Ralf

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Re: 2 touch?

[Eric Weir]

On Jul 17, 2010, at 4:21 PM, eckinator wrote:

> Push/Pull is great to train your motor skills since to keep focus
> while zooming can be a handful =)

Thanks, Ecke. Focusing is enough of a handful for me at this point.

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Re: 2 touch?

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On Jul 17, 2010, at 4:08 PM, Adam Maas wrote:

> A two-touch lens has a zoom ring and a focus ring where as a 1-touch
> lens has push-pull zoom and traditionally the push-pull portion
> functions as the focus ring for manual lenses

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Re: PESO 2010 - 115 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Thank you all for looking and commenting!

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RE: The Great Life Photographers--a book recommendation

[Bob W]

I have indeed, and I've heard it described by an eye witness. Nevertheless,
the laws of physics prevent me from getting any more books in the house...


> Don't imply to Christine that there is such a thing as too many books.
> Books are like lenses - you can never have too many. Haven't you seen
> any of the shots of the interior of their home?
> 
> stan
> 
> On Jul 17, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Bob W wrote:
> 
> > I'll keep an eye open for that, but I can't buy any more books until
> I've
> > bought a bigger house to put them in...




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Re: The Great Life Photographers--a book recommendation

[Stan Halpin]

Don't imply to Christine that there is such a thing as too many books. Books 
are like lenses - you can never have too many. Haven't you seen any of the 
shots of the interior of their home? 

stan

On Jul 17, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Bob W wrote:

> I'll keep an eye open for that, but I can't buy any more books until I've
> bought a bigger house to put them in...
> 
> 
> Bob
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
>> Christine Aguila
>> Sent: 17 July 2010 19:42
>> To: pdml@pdml.net
>> Subject: The Great Life Photographers--a book recommendation
>> 
>> Having spent the last week reading page by page this lovely 605 page
>> book
>> published by Thames & Hudson (paperback 2009), I'd like to recommend it
>> to
>> PDML folks.  Organized in alpha order, included is a brief biographical
>> sketch of 88 photographers who were on Life's staff and, of course,
>> photos
>> made by the photographer.
>> 
>> So many of the photographers have passed away, which would follow given
>> Life's run from 1936-1972.  The brief sketches do a great job of
>> revealing
>> the dedication and personality of the photographers, especially in
>> their
>> coverage of World War II.
>> 
>> I'd like to share this brief biography of George Strock (1911-1977):
>> 
>> " . . . Stroke joined LIFE and went off to the war in the Pacific.
>> Initially he cabled editors that he saw so little action he was ready
>> to
>> quit and open a peanut stand.  Other photographers did leave, but
>> Strock
>> stayed on for the Battle of Buna, which cost more than 3,000 Allied
>> lives.
>> On that malarial New Guinea island, Strock scrambled along side the
>> soldiers. . . . At the time, censors banned showing any dead American
>> soldiers, but LIFE raised the point with the government, and FDR
>> himself
>> decided the public was growing complacent and should see some of the
>> reality; thus 'Three Dead Americans' ran in LIFE."
>> 
>> I find that last bit about FDR very interesting.  Cheers, Christine
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: iPad

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It's rather interesting that it was this past week that I got my hands
on a demo iPad for about 4 days. My impression was that it looked
and felt cool, but mostly useless.


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RE: The Great Life Photographers--a book recommendation

[Bob W]

I'll keep an eye open for that, but I can't buy any more books until I've
bought a bigger house to put them in...


Bob

> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Christine Aguila
> Sent: 17 July 2010 19:42
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: The Great Life Photographers--a book recommendation
> 
> Having spent the last week reading page by page this lovely 605 page
> book
> published by Thames & Hudson (paperback 2009), I'd like to recommend it
> to
> PDML folks.  Organized in alpha order, included is a brief biographical
> sketch of 88 photographers who were on Life's staff and, of course,
> photos
> made by the photographer.
> 
> So many of the photographers have passed away, which would follow given
> Life's run from 1936-1972.  The brief sketches do a great job of
> revealing
> the dedication and personality of the photographers, especially in
> their
> coverage of World War II.
> 
> I'd like to share this brief biography of George Strock (1911-1977):
> 
> " . . . Stroke joined LIFE and went off to the war in the Pacific.
> Initially he cabled editors that he saw so little action he was ready
> to
> quit and open a peanut stand.  Other photographers did leave, but
> Strock
> stayed on for the Battle of Buna, which cost more than 3,000 Allied
> lives.
> On that malarial New Guinea island, Strock scrambled along side the
> soldiers. . . . At the time, censors banned showing any dead American
> soldiers, but LIFE raised the point with the government, and FDR
> himself
> decided the public was growing complacent and should see some of the
> reality; thus 'Three Dead Americans' ran in LIFE."
> 
> I find that last bit about FDR very interesting.  Cheers, Christine
> 
> 
> 
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Re: PESO - In the fountain

[P N Stenquist]

On Jul 17, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Bob W wrote:



http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11284350



that's a great shot

Thanks Bob. She was supposed to just get her feet wet, but since she  
was creating photo ops, I didn't complain:-).

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RE: What you all missed

[Bob W]

> besides - well worth a visit. There are also some bits and pieces from
> the
> Staffordshire Horde, so fresh they're still caked in mud.

Hoard, not horde. Staffordshire has a hoard. The Mongols have hordes.



> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Bob W
> Sent: 17 July 2010 21:36
> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
> Subject: What you all missed
> 
> Spent a very ennjoyable day in Birmingham with Chris today, primarily
> to see
> the Steve McCurry exhibition. We also looked around the art gallery and
> museum, and had a stroll along the canalside.
> 
> The exhibition is incredibly depressing. What's the point of being a
> photographer when someone like McCurry is so damned good? A really good
> show
> that could have been twice as big. Most of his classics are there,
> although
> some of my personal favourites are missing.
> 
> I would like to have seen this one:
>  ZOWEC
> 2NUM&IT=ZoomImage01_VForm&IID=2K7O3R3ITSD8&PN=24&CT=Search>
> 
> 
> 
> The museum is terrific. Quite small, but there's some seriously good
> stuff
> in there, including a Velazquez, Picasso, Braque, Vuillard and many
> more
> besides - well worth a visit. There are also some bits and pieces from
> the
> Staffordshire Horde, so fresh they're still caked in mud.
> 
> The canal is full of Danes.
> 
> Here are some snaps. The first is from Greenwich, but I thought I'd
> drop it
> in here anyway.
> 
> 
> 
> Bob
> 
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RE: PESO - In the fountain

[Bob W]

> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11284350
> 

that's a great shot


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PESO - In the fountain

[P N Stenquist]

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11284350

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What you all missed

[Bob W]

Spent a very ennjoyable day in Birmingham with Chris today, primarily to see
the Steve McCurry exhibition. We also looked around the art gallery and
museum, and had a stroll along the canalside. 

The exhibition is incredibly depressing. What's the point of being a
photographer when someone like McCurry is so damned good? A really good show
that could have been twice as big. Most of his classics are there, although
some of my personal favourites are missing. 

I would like to have seen this one:




The museum is terrific. Quite small, but there's some seriously good stuff
in there, including a Velazquez, Picasso, Braque, Vuillard and many more
besides - well worth a visit. There are also some bits and pieces from the
Staffordshire Horde, so fresh they're still caked in mud.

The canal is full of Danes.

Here are some snaps. The first is from Greenwich, but I thought I'd drop it
in here anyway.



Bob


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Re: GESO - Keeping Close Watch

[Jack Davis]

AAWW-some shots, Frank! Wonder why the first (top) shot has a distinct green 
tint.(?)

Jack

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> From: frank theriault 
> Subject: GESO - Keeping Close Watch
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Saturday, July 17, 2010, 12:11 PM
> Here's one from my nature walk this
> morning.  Not much exotic in the
> fauna category, but it's always fun to watch a duck and her
> ducklings
> toodling about a pond:
> 
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/keeping-close-watch.html
> 
> Actually I wonder if they're all hers:  I counted as
> many as eight
> ducklings in one of the frames.  Could she have
> "adopted" some
> orphans?  Maybe she's babysitting whilst a friend
> "sleeps on off"?
> 
> ;-)
> 
> *istD, M200mm f4.0, Manfrotto monopod.
> 
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: 2 touch?

[eckinator]

Push/Pull is great to train your motor skills since to keep focus
while zooming can be a handful =)
Cheers
Ecke

2010/7/17 Bob W :
>> What is meant when a lens is described as "2 touch," e.g., 35-70 F4 SMC
>> A (58) 2 TOUCH ZOOM.
>>
>
> it means the zoom ring and the focus ring are separate. Some lenses, such as
> the 70-210/4, use the same ring for both - to zoom you push/pull like a
> trombone, to focus you twist
>
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RE: 2 touch?

[Bob W]

> What is meant when a lens is described as "2 touch," e.g., 35-70 F4 SMC
> A (58) 2 TOUCH ZOOM.
> 

it means the zoom ring and the focus ring are separate. Some lenses, such as
the 70-210/4, use the same ring for both - to zoom you push/pull like a
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RE: PESO - In Another World

[Bob W]

> Yet another coffee shop shot.  Not on purpose;  I was just looking
> through some older photos and this one taken last summer jumped out at
> me.  To me she has an almost mannequin-like look to her, but mostly I
> like the far-away look in her eye:
> 
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/07/in-another-world.html
> 
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
> 
> cheers,
> frank

Great shot. She looks like Mary Quant.

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RE: GESO - Keeping Close Watch

[Bob W]

> 
> Here's one from my nature walk this morning.  Not much exotic in the
> fauna category, but it's always fun to watch a duck and her ducklings
> toodling about a pond:
> 
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/keeping-close-watch.html
> 
> Actually I wonder if they're all hers:  I counted as many as eight
> ducklings in one of the frames.  Could she have "adopted" some
> orphans?  Maybe she's babysitting whilst a friend "sleeps on off"?
> 
> ;-)

she might be the Pied Piper of Quacklin. Nice shots. Normally people should
keep their duck shots to themselves, but these are nice.

B




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RE: PESO 2010 - 115 - GDG

[Bob W]

> >> Another photo, another blog post for you:
> >>
> >>   http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/of-time-and-place
> >>
> >> Comments always appreciated, thanks for looking. :-)
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > It's interesting how breaking the 'rules' with a centrally placed
> figure
> > just works.
> 
> If one looks at the photo and places his/her thumb over the figures at
> top
> of frame, the photograph changes dramatically--to my eye it just
> becomes
> another centrally placed figure no-no, but with the figures included,
> the
> centered composition really works.  Cheers, Christine

I tend to agree. The figures at the top distinguish the picture from the
run-of-the-mill shots of that subject. In addition, cropping them would
force Henri to do without the black lines of the frame edge...




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Re: iPad

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On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>
> Time will tell, but Apple is a technology driver these days so I predict
> that Flash will simply go away. There are reports that the porn industry is
> abandoning Flash media already as the mobile devices like iPhone and iPad
> are big in their target markets.
>
> -bmw
>

HTML 5 obsoleted flash, Apple's riding the bleeding edge like they did
with USB and a few other technologies but the move away from Flash has
been building since well before the iPhone showed up, mostly for
security reasons (Flash is an utter disaster from a security
standpoint)



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Re: 2 touch?

[Adam Maas]

A two-touch lens has a zoom ring and a focus ring where as a 1-touch
lens has push-pull zoom and traditionally the push-pull portion
functions as the focus ring for manual lenses, AF lenses will usually
have a smaller focus ring as part of the push-pull section

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:
>
> What is meant when a lens is described as "2 touch," e.g., 35-70 F4 SMC A 
> (58) 2 TOUCH ZOOM.
>
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Re: iPad

[Bruce Walker]

Tom C wrote:

Counterpoint... what do most people do with their computers at least
75% of the time? Web browse, handle e-mail, watch or listen to media.
My Droid replaces my laptop a good 80% of the time I'm traveling and
not actually engaged in work.


My iPod Touch has quickly become my casual web-media, news-reading, 
weather-report and quick-email-check device.  I carry it around the 
house all day now.


(I'd have an iPhone to do these things except that I will not pay the 
Canadian mobile carrier's tax. All the incumbents charge way more for 
data/voice than would be tolerated in a free market.)


The iPad is like a big iPod Touch with an amazing screen, so I'll have 
one eventually.  I actually was one of the first to get one in Canada, 
but I bought it for my aging parents to use. They're getting used to it 
and seem to like it.




Understood, it doesn't run Photoshop, Lightroom, or countless other
applications, which would make it unsuitable for some.

Agreed it's a pretty slick device for what it does do.  Not
incorporating Flash is still an all around stupid move though.

Tom C.


Time will tell, but Apple is a technology driver these days so I predict 
that Flash will simply go away. There are reports that the porn industry 
is abandoning Flash media already as the mobile devices like iPhone and 
iPad are big in their target markets.


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2 touch?

[Eric Weir]

What is meant when a lens is described as "2 touch," e.g., 35-70 F4 SMC A (58) 
2 TOUCH ZOOM.

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Re: PESO: No Risque, no fun

[Igor Roshchin]

Sat Jul 17 10:45:09 CDT 2010
Ann Sanfedele wrote:

> Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
> 
> >River barges on the Canal Albert, between Li.ge and Maastricht:
> >
> >http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/21762685
> >
> >I know it's a tad noisy. Been taken at ISO 400.
> >
> >As usual, your comments and suggestions...  :-)
> >
> >Ralf
> >
> >  
> 
> p.s. Don't remember seeing this shot before , btw
> and I like it a lot
> 
> http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/20999577
> 

I also looked at other shots, as I haven't looked at your site for a 
while.
It's hard to reference them uniquely, as the numbering changes 
(I think I wrote once that I wish you had the numbers staying put).
I also liked the one that Ann pointed out.

The rest that caught my eye are now numbered :
2,4, 6, 7, 9 , 13, 16, 17, 30, 36

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/21714926
http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/21588187
http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/20999577
http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/20986576
http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/20742933
http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/20491412
http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/20455598
http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/20399981
http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/20218219
http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/19879579

Igor


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Re: PESO - En stol. Nede på brygga.

[Toralf Lund]

P. J. Alling wrote:

On 7/17/2010 2:42 PM, Toralf Lund wrote:

http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=brygga1

Comments are welcome...

- Toralf


The composition is interesting, the rendering shows the limits of 
either the lens or sensor, I think.  I'm not really sure which.

"Interesting" was exactly what I aimed for, so thanks.

This is actually a scan from slide film (I have some of those lying 
around in my fridge...) Maybe it didn't have enough dynamic range, or 
perhaps the scan isn't very good, or perhaps it's still the lens. Don't 
quite remember which one I used, but it may have been the A70-210. 
Unless it was the FA-50/1.4. A polariser was possibly involved, too...


Here is a quick rescan with somewhat different settings. Flatter curve, 
mainly:


http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=brygga1b

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Re: PESO - En stol. Nede på brygga.

[Toralf Lund]

Bob W wrote:

http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=brygga1

Comments are welcome...




nice composition which works well, but I think it needs deeper shadows - it
looks too washed out as it is.
  
Well, I did try "pull up" some of the darker parts, I you know what I 
mean. This is more like the way it was captured:


http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=brygga1b

Perhaps it's better that way?

Thanks,


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GESO - Keeping Close Watch

[frank theriault]

Here's one from my nature walk this morning.  Not much exotic in the
fauna category, but it's always fun to watch a duck and her ducklings
toodling about a pond:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/keeping-close-watch.html

Actually I wonder if they're all hers:  I counted as many as eight
ducklings in one of the frames.  Could she have "adopted" some
orphans?  Maybe she's babysitting whilst a friend "sleeps on off"?

;-)

*istD, M200mm f4.0, Manfrotto monopod.

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Re: PESO: These boots....

[Michael Hamilton]

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>>
>> http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/Charlotteboots.jpg
>>
>> A quick photo taken before she realized what was going on... The boots
>> were my wife's when she was a child.  :)
>>
>
> your daughter has really big feet! Get her to the Chinese foot bindery,
> quick!

Yes, she does actually have large feet (fills socks meant for 3-6
month babies), but the boots are actually pretty small.  I was using a
14 mm lens, hence the distortion. ;)

I've uploaded a new version which has tighter focus on the face:
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/Charlotteboots-2.jpg

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Re: PESO - En stol. Nede på brygga.

[Toralf Lund]

Michael Hamilton wrote:

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Toralf Lund  wrote:
  

http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=brygga1

Comments are welcome...



Toralf,
   I like the feeling a lot. The faded, summertime look that you've
created here is quite fitting.  I love the chair, water & boats, but
have a hard time with the lamp post.  It's very heavy and pulls away
from the rest of the image.  For me, it's one of those "if only..."
photos. :)
  
Fair enough. I actually think it needs something besides the chair, but 
maybe this post is a bit too much. I didn't try to remove it ;-)


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Re: PESO(s) Lens Testing

[Michael Hamilton]

I like your first photo a lot!

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:19 PM, P. J. Alling
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> Well I just got my A*300mm f4.0 back from repair for the second time.  I
> really have no complaints even though it took two trips, the cost for repair
> was very reasonable.  The problem was with infinity focus so I took it out
> to shoot a local Church Steeple, a target with reasonable amouts of detail
> near infinity.  The results were a thousand percent improvement over it's
> previous behavior.
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20madcongchrstep2.html
>
> I then made a test shot of a bust of the man the Town was named after at
> minimum focus distance, (about 4 meters), just to make sure that a new
> problem didn't develop.  It's not easy shooting hand held at minimum focus,
> the far eye of this bronze bust is actually the plane of sharpest focus.
>  But over all it's acceptable for a lens at it's widest aperture.
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20jamesmadison.html
>
> Equipment: K20D w/smc A*300mm f4.0.
>
> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
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RE: PESO: These boots....

[Bob W]

> 
> http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/Charlotteboots.jpg
> 
> A quick photo taken before she realized what was going on... The boots
> were my wife's when she was a child.  :)
> 

your daughter has really big feet! Get her to the Chinese foot bindery,
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RE: Peso Anno sensei bowing

[Bob W]

> 
> Our dojo had the honor of having Anno Sensei (an 8th degree black belt)
> teach a class at our dojo last Tuesday.
> 
> I was asked for a print of this one, so somebody likes it, maybe you
> will too:
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4794057200/in/set-
> 72157624369494951/
> 
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> 

that's a lovely shot, although I find the heads at the bottom too intrusive.
Off with them!

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Re: PESO - En stol. Nede på brygga.

[P. J. Alling]

On 7/17/2010 2:42 PM, Toralf Lund wrote:

http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=brygga1

Comments are welcome...

- Toralf


The composition is interesting, the rendering shows the limits of either 
the lens or sensor, I think.  I'm not really sure which.


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RE: Florac and faunac

[Bob W]

Great - thanks. Here they are (some already posted in other galleries):



I hope I've spelt Neave properly, and I hope you all enjoyed the rest of
your holiday.

Bob

> 
> outstanding portfolios Bob and thanks for suggesting the Florac region
> - it was great. Feel free to post any pictures of us - I might post
> one or two of you too
> 
> We've swapped sweltering heat in Europe for bitterly winter back home
> :-(
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Re: PESO - In Another World

[P. J. Alling]

Nicely rendered.

(Side comment, I find people without forheads disturbing).

On 7/17/2010 7:31 AM, frank theriault wrote:

Yet another coffee shop shot.  Not on purpose;  I was just looking
through some older photos and this one taken last summer jumped out at
me.  To me she has an almost mannequin-like look to her, but mostly I
like the far-away look in her eye:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/07/in-another-world.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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RE: PESO - En stol. Nede på brygga.

[Bob W]

> http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=brygga1
> 
> Comments are welcome...
> 

nice composition which works well, but I think it needs deeper shadows - it
looks too washed out as it is.

Bob


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Re: PESO: No Risque, no fun

[P. J. Alling]

The sky looks kind of "pebbly".

On 7/17/2010 9:48 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

Very nice composition and exposure! I don't see "noisy." :)

Jack

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From: Ralf R. Radermacher
Subject: PESO: No Risque, no fun
To: pdml@pdml.net
Date: Saturday, July 17, 2010, 5:57 AM
River barges on the Canal Albert,
between Liège and Maastricht:

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/21762685

I know it's a tad noisy. Been taken at ISO 400.

As usual, your comments and suggestions...  :-)

Ralf

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Re: PESO - En stol. Nede på brygga.

[Michael Hamilton]

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Toralf Lund  wrote:
> http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=brygga1
>
> Comments are welcome...

Toralf,
   I like the feeling a lot. The faded, summertime look that you've
created here is quite fitting.  I love the chair, water & boats, but
have a hard time with the lamp post.  It's very heavy and pulls away
from the rest of the image.  For me, it's one of those "if only..."
photos. :)
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PESO - En stol. Nede på brygga.

[Toralf Lund]

http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=brygga1

Comments are welcome...

- Toralf


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The Great Life Photographers--a book recommendation

[Christine Aguila]

Having spent the last week reading page by page this lovely 605 page book 
published by Thames & Hudson (paperback 2009), I'd like to recommend it to 
PDML folks.  Organized in alpha order, included is a brief biographical 
sketch of 88 photographers who were on Life's staff and, of course, photos 
made by the photographer.


So many of the photographers have passed away, which would follow given 
Life's run from 1936-1972.  The brief sketches do a great job of revealing 
the dedication and personality of the photographers, especially in their 
coverage of World War II.


I'd like to share this brief biography of George Strock (1911-1977):

" . . . Stroke joined LIFE and went off to the war in the Pacific. 
Initially he cabled editors that he saw so little action he was ready to 
quit and open a peanut stand.  Other photographers did leave, but Strock 
stayed on for the Battle of Buna, which cost more than 3,000 Allied lives. 
On that malarial New Guinea island, Strock scrambled along side the 
soldiers. . . . At the time, censors banned showing any dead American 
soldiers, but LIFE raised the point with the government, and FDR himself 
decided the public was growing complacent and should see some of the 
reality; thus 'Three Dead Americans' ran in LIFE."


I find that last bit about FDR very interesting.  Cheers, Christine




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Re: iPad

[Igor Roshchin]

It's rather interesting that it was this past week that I got my hands
on a demo iPad for about 4 days. My impression was that it looked
and felt cool, but mostly useless.
The latter part was due to 1) difference in the modus operandi
(I don't use web-interface for reading e-mail, rather it is
either shell-based, such as alpine, or Thunderbird)
2) Among the apps installed, there were very few that attracted any portion
of my interest, and I was not installing any new ones.

For the 1) above, - the lack of keyboard was definitely a hindering 
factor. I am using a lot of short-keys on the keyboard even to control
web-browser. I was not used to how to do copy-n-paste between apps /browsers.
Lack of possibility to switch between different windows, and lack
of multitasking (I know, there is a hack that allows to enable that -
so that you can listen to built-in iPod while doing something else, but
I was not going to bother.)

The screen is very nice. I also liked gesture-based touch-screen 
navigation for certain websites (in particular, google maps).
At this point, I do not see using iPad or any similarly sized pads.
If anything, I may consider a small device like Viliv N5 - 
for communication and web browsing:
http://www.liliputing.com/2010/07/viliv-n5-handheld-mini-notebook-now-shipping-in-the-us.html

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PESO: These boots....

[Michael Hamilton]

http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/Charlotteboots.jpg

A quick photo taken before she realized what was going on... The boots
were my wife's when she was a child.  :)

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Re: PESO - World on a Chair on a Stick

[Michael Hamilton]

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 5:58 AM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Adam Maas  wrote:
>> First post from my new 6x7. The grain is from post.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/4799123934/
>>
>> larger/direct link:
>>
>> http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4123/4799123934_e1afa29aef_b.jpg
>>
>> 6x7, SMC Takumar 105/2.4, TXP,
>>
>
> You really need to see the larger image to appreciate it.  I thought
> it sucked on flickr, just because of the size.  All that detail
> suddenly pops out and it becomes a fun photo to look at.
>
> cheers,
> frank


I agree.  It is very busy and the large size helps with viewing.  I'd
even like a larger size to appreciate.
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Re: Peso Anno sensei bowing

[Michael Hamilton]

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
> On Jul 17, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jul 17, 2010, at 4:23 AM, eckinator wrote:
>>
>>> What Brian said, Larry. Only a gentle crop.
>>
>> Thank you both.
>>
>> I confess that out of laziness I hadn't uploaded the final version to 
>> flickr. When I went back to print it, I tweaked it slightly, pretty much 
>> exactly as you said:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4802263252/
>
> Then, after posting the last, looked at the photo again and went for a much 
> tighter crop:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4802285668/
>
> The photo in the upper right is O Sensei, the founder of aikido, and the 
> calligraphy, written by O sensei translates to "True Victory is Self 
> Victory", which are critical elements to "the place".  I think that I prefer 
> the less tightly cropped version, which lends a bit more spareness, and the 
> feeling of traditional Japanese austerity.
>
> Comments?

I prefer the first crop.  The space in front of the kneeling man gives
more breathing room.  Nice peaceful tone in the image...

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Re: PESO - In Another World

[Michael Hamilton]

I like it.  It seems busy on the bottom and left side of the frame,
then balanced by the space around her head.  Nice.

Mike

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Christine  Aguila
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> Nice one, Frank.  She most definitely looks as if she's in another world.
> Cheers, Christine
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "frank theriault"
> 
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> Subject: PESO - In Another World
>
>
> Yet another coffee shop shot.  Not on purpose;  I was just looking
> through some older photos and this one taken last summer jumped out at
> me.  To me she has an almost mannequin-like look to her, but mostly I
> like the far-away look in her eye:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/07/in-another-world.html
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: PESO: Lake Edith, Jasper National Park

[Michael Hamilton]

Thank you all.  Seems to be a great variety of responses, for which
I'm grateful.  I do live within 3.5 hours of
Jasper and often drive through. :)  I'll stop off again some time.

Mike

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 5:54 AM, frank theriault
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> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Michael Hamilton  wrote:
>> http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/MH100518.jpg
>>
>> This is one of the few 'serious' photographic attempts that I've made
>> in a while. It's inspired by those photos that are often found in
>> mountain resort lodges, such as the Jasper Park Lodge where I was
>> staying.  This is my favourite photograph to take, and I want to get
>> better at it.
>>
>> What do you think?
>
> That's an absolutely beautiful photo.  I can't think of a way to improve it.
>
> Gorgeous!
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: Peso Anno sensei bowing

[Larry Colen]

On Jul 17, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

> 
> On Jul 17, 2010, at 4:23 AM, eckinator wrote:
> 
>> What Brian said, Larry. Only a gentle crop.
> 
> Thank you both.
> 
> I confess that out of laziness I hadn't uploaded the final version to flickr. 
> When I went back to print it, I tweaked it slightly, pretty much exactly as 
> you said:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4802263252/

Then, after posting the last, looked at the photo again and went for a much 
tighter crop:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4802285668/

The photo in the upper right is O Sensei, the founder of aikido, and the 
calligraphy, written by O sensei translates to "True Victory is Self Victory", 
which are critical elements to "the place".  I think that I prefer the less 
tightly cropped version, which lends a bit more spareness, and the feeling of 
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Re: iPad

[Stan Halpin]

Thanks for the comment Adam. Both of the uses you mention are ones I'll look 
into. I think an iPad will join our household, it is just a question of when 
and how many. My wife basically commutes between two homes: our current home in 
Missouri and our future home in Michigan where she cares for her elderly 
step-mother 4-5 days a week. She carries her laptop back and forth for email 
and web browsing, and likes the smaller lighter iPad as an alternative which 
would also provide her with an e-book reader. She does fine with the iPhone 
virtual keyboard and would have no problem with that aspect of the iPad.

stan

On Jul 17, 2010, at 9:37 AM, Adam Maas wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Stan Halpin
>  wrote:
>> I quite like the look and feel of the iPad. But at this point, and into the 
>> future as far as I can see, it will not replace my laptop and so it would be 
>> an extra piece of gear to carry on my travels, not an alternative.
>> 
>> With my laptop on my travels I:
>>- download my photos at the end of the day. Primary to the internal 
>> HD, backup to an external portable HD.
>>- Do a quick pass through the day's results in Lightroom, with 
>> preliminary ratings. Minor editing on particular shots to post on my blog or 
>> send to friends/relatives.
>>- Slide show for me and my wife.
>> When I get home, I transfer the files and associated ratings and edits into 
>> my home system of HDs, my main LR library, etc. All of my preliminary work 
>> is preserved.
>> 
>> If I had an iPad with current software, I would need to make major 
>> adjustments to my workflow. And would probably wind up being able to do 
>> little more than store-and-review while on the road. I would love to hear 
>> how the capabilities of the iPad could provide a workable alternative 
>> workflow! But I am skeptical.
>> 
>> stan
>> 
> 
> From a Photography standpoint the iPad has two real uses.
> 
> 1. Portfolio. It's a slick portable image viewer with a first-class
> screen. This makes it a good option for a portfolio to take with you
> to show off your work.
> 
> 2. Second monitor/tablet on the road. See Ctein's write-up here:
> http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2010/07/why-i-needed-an-ipad.html
> 
> What a lot of people are forgetting in all the Tablet hysteria is that
> the iPad is not a Tablet PC. It's a peripheral, an iPod on steroids
> with limited general computing capability added. Think media
> player/eBook viewer/photo viewer that also can web browse and do email
> in a pinch. It's not going to replace even a netbook as a general
> computing device.
> 
> 
> -- 
> M. Adam Maas
> http://www.mawz.ca
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Re: Peso Anno sensei bowing

[Larry Colen]

On Jul 17, 2010, at 4:23 AM, eckinator wrote:

> What Brian said, Larry. Only a gentle crop.

Thank you both.

I confess that out of laziness I hadn't uploaded the final version to flickr. 
When I went back to print it, I tweaked it slightly, pretty much exactly as you 
said:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4802263252/

This is a tough crowd, you can't get away with *anything*.


> Cheers
> Ecke
> 
> 2010/7/17 Brian Walters :
>> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 02:12 -0700, "Larry Colen"  wrote:
>>> Our dojo had the honor of having Anno Sensei (an 8th degree black belt)
>>> teach a class at our dojo last Tuesday.
>>> 
>>> I was asked for a print of this one, so somebody likes it, maybe you will
>>> too:
>>> 
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4794057200/in/set-72157624369494951/
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Yes - good tone on that one and a pleasing composition, but without your
>> explanation I probably would have struggled to understand what was
>> happening.

I hadn't really thought about whether it would be understandable to folks who 
don't study Aikido.

>> 
>> Maybe a slightly tighter crop would help outsiders understand the image
>> a little better by making the figure larger in the frame (and also
>> losing the two heads at the bottom).
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
>> Brian Walters
>> Western Sydney Australia
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Re: PESO: No Risque, no fun

[Ann Sanfedele]

Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:


River barges on the Canal Albert, between Liège and Maastricht:

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/21762685

I know it's a tad noisy. Been taken at ISO 400.

As usual, your comments and suggestions...  :-)

Ralf

 

only a tad nothing my old eyes can perceive and  your usual good sense 
of composition and color -


and nice caption hehe

(and glad you liked the pun post too)

ann

p.s. Don't remember seeing this shot before , btw
and I like it a lot

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/20999577


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