Re: OT: RIP Cattywumpuss

[Thibouille]

Stan, I'm sorry to hear that.
I myself got two of my lovely rats passing away (one 6 months ago, the
other one 4 weeks ago).

I know how you feel :(
I looked at your pic you listed and it was definitely a beautiful cat.

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Re: K7 or Kx

[eckinator]

2010/9/2 Miserere :
>
> You need a license to own a gun, but they let anyone shoot at ISO 6400.

Mark =)

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PESO - Curveball

[frank theriault]

There's a lot of things I ~don't~ like about this one, but enough good
things that I'm showing it anyway.

;-)

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/09/curveball.html

For one thing I had the wrong lens (from my vantagepoint I needed
something shorter than 200mm, so a zoom would have been nice).
Hopefully this weekend there'll be some games and I can spend a good
long time there with a zoom getting more shots.

*istD, M200mm f4.0, Manfrotto monopod.

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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Re: September PUG is up

[frank theriault]

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Scott Loveless  wrote:
> It's here:  http://pug.komkon.org/  On the 1st!  (At least for some of
> the world.)  Thanks to Rick Womer for prodding me.  Without his gentle
> reminders I'd still be 3 months behind.
>
> The entire gallery this month is digital.  No film.  I think this is
> only the second time that has occurred.  There are probably more
> two-wheeled contraptions in this gallery than in all the prior
> galleries combined.  You'll see why.  Pete McIntosh's is my favorite.
>
> There are currently no submissions for October or November.
> http://pdmlpug.org/?page_id=20
>
> Good night.  Sleep tight.

Yay, Scott!

Wonderful gallery.  Too many faves to choose just one.

Gotta start looking for an October entry.

cheers,
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Re: K7 or Kx

[Steven Desjardins]

As much as I enjoy this, I probably should 'fess up.  A friend of a
friend had a K7 and kindly let me try it with my own SD card.  I tired
exactly what Mis. mentioned, i.e., I took a few correctly exposed
shots at 1600, 3200, and 6400.  I was more than satisfied in that I
probably won't try anything worse than that. (I can only imagine what
the Kx can do if this is what people consider unacceptable.) This
being said, I hadn't realized how much the K7 was similar in form
factor to the D/DS with some extra weight.  I also tried some
difficult exposure situations and was pleasantly surprised as how god
it was.  That is probably more important to me than the really high
iso performance.  At least for now.  BTW, I think Mis and Boris both
have legitimate points.  One big difference is always what the shooter
considers acceptable, and, as they say, there is no dispute in matters
of taste.

My K7 will arrive today.  Thanks for all the advice folks.  I am giddy
in anticipation.
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Re: PESO - Charlotte's Web

[Jack Davis]

Crisp with well chosen DoF. 

Jack

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> Subject: PESO - Charlotte's Web
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 8:14 PM
> I've been very busy, not as much
> personal shooting lately.  Anyway,
> here is a shot that I took this morning out in the
> garden.  In case
> you didn't get it from the subject, yes it is a spider.
> 
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> ISO 800, 1/125 sec @ f/11
> 
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto_01044.htm
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Re: PESO: Chives

[Jack Davis]

Thanks, Dave! I consider it a modest effort.

Jack

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> Subject: Re: PESO: Chives
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> Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 11:43 PM
> I think it works well. I'm led to the
> subject not the background, so i
> don't find it to strong.
> 
> Dave
> 
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Jack Davis 
> wrote:
> > I was idling around in the back your in the area of my
> wife's West vegetable garden (yes, there is an East) when I
> noticed this plant.
> > I, obviously, liked the structure of it and went for
> some equipment.
> > I knew I had to isolate it from some dead ground cover
> and give it a background. I eliminated the dead stuff at the
> bottom by cropping it off in the viewfinder. Shot this a
> f/2.8 but still got a somewhat busy cucumber background. I
> blurred and darkened it, and reduced the "spotty" look.
> > I asked my wife what it was and she said "they're
> chives that should have been picked prior to reaching this
> stage."
> > Light thing in the lower left corner is stepping stone
> paver which I left as an offset to the mums (?) on the
> right.
> > Thought it about time I offered "something."
> >
> > Jack
> >
> > Comments welcome, of course.
> >
> > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=527
> >
> >
> > K20, f/2.8, 1/4000, ISO 400, da50~...@123mm, hand
> held
> >
> >
> >
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Re: PESO - Curveball

[Jack Davis]

Your versatility is showing, Frank. ;)

Jack

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> Subject: PESO - Curveball
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> Date: Thursday, September 2, 2010, 4:07 AM
> There's a lot of things I ~don't~
> like about this one, but enough good
> things that I'm showing it anyway.
> 
> ;-)
> 
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/09/curveball.html
> 
> For one thing I had the wrong lens (from my vantagepoint I
> needed
> something shorter than 200mm, so a zoom would have been
> nice).
> Hopefully this weekend there'll be some games and I can
> spend a good
> long time there with a zoom getting more shots.
> 
> *istD, M200mm f4.0, Manfrotto monopod.
> 
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: PESO - Curveball

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I think it is a fine image, Frank.  I like the dof, the position of
the ball, the expression on the pitcher's face, and the posture of the
fielder to the left of the pitcher.  The fielder or runner behind the
pitcher is a bit distracting, but  we work in an imperfect world and
must take it as it is.  I think this image does a great job of
portraying the scene and the action.

Dan

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:07 AM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> There's a lot of things I ~don't~ like about this one, but enough good
> things that I'm showing it anyway.
>
> ;-)
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/09/curveball.html
>
> For one thing I had the wrong lens (from my vantagepoint I needed
> something shorter than 200mm, so a zoom would have been nice).
> Hopefully this weekend there'll be some games and I can spend a good
> long time there with a zoom getting more shots.
>
> *istD, M200mm f4.0, Manfrotto monopod.
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
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Re: PESO - Charlotte's Web

[Daniel J. Matyola]

That is a very effective image, Bruce.

Dan

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Bruce Dayton  wrote:
> I've been very busy, not as much personal shooting lately.  Anyway,
> here is a shot that I took this morning out in the garden.  In case
> you didn't get it from the subject, yes it is a spider.
>
> Pentax K-x, Tamron 90/2.8 Macro, Tripod mounted
> ISO 800, 1/125 sec @ f/11
>
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto_01044.htm
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Re: GESO today's photowalk

[Toine]

Yes I should have posted a spider warning. For a spider she has very
nice colours and is non toxic.
Thanks for looking
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Tamron's lenses to be auto corrected in Adobe CS5 and LR3

[Miserere]

Good to hear that Tamron are releasing those secret numbers to Adobe
so automatic distortion, chromatic aberration and vignetting
correction will be applied to all Tammy lenses. If I remember
correctly, none of the big brands turned over their profiles, correct?
I imagine this would be a golden opportunity for all the third party
vendors to collaborate with Adobe and use this as a marketing tool:

"Buy Tamsigmina lenses, not only are we cheaper than the OEM
equivalents, we also don't seem so crap once all our imperfections are
automatically fixed in Photoshop and Lightroom!"

Note: For those without a sense of humour, let me explain that I don't
hate thrird party lenses. In fact, some of my best friends are third
party lenses.


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Re: GESO today's photowalk

[Miserere]

On 2 September 2010 10:08, Toine  wrote:
> Yes I should have posted a spider warning. For a spider she has very
> nice colours and is non toxic.
> Thanks for looking
> Toine

The spider is the best; such great light. And I commend you for not
turning the saturation knob to 11 (or 111%, as the case may be).

As far as composition and story-telling go, the fly is my favourite. I
love wide open, empty(ish) frames. And the title is spot on, I fully
expect to see the fly jump off, do a double backwards flip and dive
into the pond.

Which Metz flash did you use?


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Re: Lightroom v3.2 and Camera Raw v6.2 are released

[John Sessoms]

From: Godfrey DiGiorgi

You should convince her to set the "Camera Raw Cache Settings" to the
default location. A cache size of 1 to 4 Gbytes is about right for
most users. In Lightroom 3.2, this setting is in the Lightroom
Preferences dialog, "File Handling" tab panel.


Without being specific, because I didn't know exactly what was causing 
it, I'd already suggested pretty much that ... whatever was creating the 
cache files was set to desktop when it should be set to a folder.


But it seems like one of those things where she'd rather bitch about it 
than listen to anything an old man might suggest. I've offered my idea 
and she can do what she wants. I'm going to let it go.


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Re: GESO today's photowalk

[Toine]

Thanks. I used the Metz 15MS-1 on the spider. You can attach it on the
DA35 but the lens is to fragile to support the flash. I hold the flash
in my left hand somewhere around the lens which makes flash possible
at 1:1 on the DA35

Toine

On 2 September 2010 16:32, Miserere  wrote:
> On 2 September 2010 10:08, Toine  wrote:
>> Yes I should have posted a spider warning. For a spider she has very
>> nice colours and is non toxic.
>> Thanks for looking
>> Toine
>
> The spider is the best; such great light. And I commend you for not
> turning the saturation knob to 11 (or 111%, as the case may be).
>
> As far as composition and story-telling go, the fly is my favourite. I
> love wide open, empty(ish) frames. And the title is spot on, I fully
> expect to see the fly jump off, do a double backwards flip and dive
> into the pond.
>
> Which Metz flash did you use?
>
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Re: PESO - Curveball

[Bob Sullivan]

Frank,
Love the good things, especially the ball with stiching.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 6:07 AM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> There's a lot of things I ~don't~ like about this one, but enough good
> things that I'm showing it anyway.
>
> ;-)
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/09/curveball.html
>
> For one thing I had the wrong lens (from my vantagepoint I needed
> something shorter than 200mm, so a zoom would have been nice).
> Hopefully this weekend there'll be some games and I can spend a good
> long time there with a zoom getting more shots.
>
> *istD, M200mm f4.0, Manfrotto monopod.
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
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Re: PESO - Curveball

[Miserere]

> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 6:07 AM, frank theriault
>  wrote:
>> There's a lot of things I ~don't~ like about this one, but enough good
>> things that I'm showing it anyway.
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/09/curveball.html
>>
>> For one thing I had the wrong lens (from my vantagepoint I needed
>> something shorter than 200mm, so a zoom would have been nice).
>> Hopefully this weekend there'll be some games and I can spend a good
>> long time there with a zoom getting more shots.
>>
>> *istD, M200mm f4.0, Manfrotto monopod.
>>
>> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>>
>> cheers,
>> frank

I think the tight composition actually works in your favour, so 200mm
was fine. The ball is placed perfectly in the frame, and at an
unbelievable angle to show the stitches, so I call Photoshop! (Yes
Frank, I know you didn't.) But while on the subject of Photoshop, if
you were unscrupulous, you would clone out the kid behind the pitcher,
which I imagine is one of the things you don't like about this image.
Despite that, I think the DoF is small enough that the picture still
works as is, and I like it a lot.

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Re: September PUG is up

[Miserere]

On 1 September 2010 23:02, Scott Loveless  wrote:
> It's here:  http://pug.komkon.org/  On the 1st!  (At least for some of
> the world.)  Thanks to Rick Womer for prodding me.  Without his gentle
> reminders I'd still be 3 months behind.
>
> The entire gallery this month is digital.  No film.  I think this is
> only the second time that has occurred.  There are probably more
> two-wheeled contraptions in this gallery than in all the prior
> galleries combined.  You'll see why.  Pete McIntosh's is my favorite.
>
> There are currently no submissions for October or November.
> http://pdmlpug.org/?page_id=20
>
> Good night.  Sleep tight.
>
> --
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I'm also surprised at how many K10D's were used.

I knew it was Frank's pic the moment it came up; no need to look at
the name  :-)

Not sure I have a fave; they all rock in their own way(s).


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Re: K7 or Kx

[John Sessoms]

From: Miserere

2) The K10D IS NOT RUBBISH at ISO 1600! People say all the time that
the K10D is bad in low light, but never explain what this means. If by
"low light" you mean "not enough light to achieve correct exposure",
then yes, the K10D falls short when you underexpose and then try to
recover an underexposed image. However, if by "low light" you mean
"light so low that you need to use ISO 1600 for correct exposure",
then no, the K10D is not bad. When proper exposure is achieved, the
K10D works very well at ISO 1600:




I've seen many shitty ISO 1600 shots from K10D's, and invariably they
were shot by someone who didn't know how to shoot the K10D at high
ISO, meaning they underexposed their images and then increased the
exposure in postprocessing. High ISO shooting is a whole 'nother game,
and I suspect it's different for each camera, but there's certainly a
learning curve that most photographers don't crawl up before
announcing to the World that a particular camera is bad at high ISO.


I think it depends on the example of K10D you have. I did not find ISO 
1600 usable in very low light on my own K10D.


ANY camera at ANY ISO will give piss poor results if you try to recover 
an under-exposed image in post processing.


My experience is you can MAYBE rescue 1/3 - 2/3 stop if you're really, 
really good at post processing and just don't have any choice ... but I 
don't rely on it.


I prefer to get exposure right in the camera. And when I did so at ISO 
1600, my K10D just gave me unsatisfactory performance.


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Re: K7 or Kx

[Dario Bonazza]

John Sessoms wrote:


I prefer to get exposure right in the camera.


That's always the right thing.

And when I did so at ISO 1600, my K10D just gave me unsatisfactory 
performance.


Performance is the kingdom of relativity.

Dario 



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Re: K7 or Kx

[Rick Womer]

Mis,

I agree with you entirely, with one caveat:  The K10D has a problem with VPN 
(vertical pattern noise), which often screwed up nocturnal landscape shots.  
Sometimes I could make it go away with LR, but sometimes not.

Rick

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--- On Wed, 9/1/10, Miserere  wrote:

> From: Miserere 
> Subject: Re: K7 or Kx
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 10:28 PM
> On 1 September 2010 11:02, Boris
> Liberman 
> wrote:
> >
> > Steve, if camera has highest ISO of 3200, it usually
> means that it is
> > unusable, but ISO 800 is pretty ok. So, if highest ISO
> is 12,800 (or even
> > 102,400) it probably means that ISO 3200 (or 32,000)
> is usable. It is like
> > fuel consumption figures of cars of battery longevity
> of cell phones. It is
> > all lies, but it is still (co)rel(l)ated to the real
> world in a manner of
> > speaking...
> >
> > Boris
> 
> I'm going to disagree here, and also qualify some comments
> that are
> being thrown around haphazardly in this thread (and all
> over the
> internet):
> 
> 1) On some cameras, the maximum ISO is unusable, but that
> is not a
> universal truth. For example, on the K100D and K10D the
> maximum ISO is
> highly usable and of very good quality. There are probably
> other
> cameras out there for which this is true, but I can speak
> of these two
> cameras with user knowledge.
> 
> 2) The K10D IS NOT RUBBISH at ISO 1600! People say all the
> time that
> the K10D is bad in low light, but never explain what this
> means. If by
> "low light" you mean "not enough light to achieve correct
> exposure",
> then yes, the K10D falls short when you underexpose and
> then try to
> recover an underexposed image. However, if by "low light"
> you mean
> "light so low that you need to use ISO 1600 for correct
> exposure",
> then no, the K10D is not bad. When proper exposure is
> achieved, the
> K10D works very well at ISO 1600:
> 
> http://lh6.ggpht.com/_i6tc3TCyOTA/StaFNYxyztI/CqA/ZjR63tKSk9M/s800/IMGP6109-small.jpg
> http://lh4.ggpht.com/Miserere/SP1U3Ik6lTI/BrA/XBLIMplJLv0/s800/IMGP0313-small.jpg
> http://lh4.ggpht.com/Miserere/SP1U4StRHeI/Brg/Vthl6szbqvk/s800/IMGP0345-small.jpg
> http://static.photo.net/attachments/bboard/00V/00VgZv-217447584.jpg
> 
> The same is true for the K100D Super at ISO 3200:
> 
> http://picasaweb.google.com/Miserere/TheFranklinKiteTTTheBearS20August2009#5389958172780052770
> http://picasaweb.google.com/Miserere/TheFranklinKiteTTTheBearS20August2009#5389958224218569394
> http://picasaweb.google.com/Miserere/TheFranklinKiteTTTheBearS20August2009#5389958203791795010
> 
> I've seen many shitty ISO 1600 shots from K10D's, and
> invariably they
> were shot by someone who didn't know how to shoot the K10D
> at high
> ISO, meaning they underexposed their images and then
> increased the
> exposure in postprocessing. High ISO shooting is a whole
> 'nother game,
> and I suspect it's different for each camera, but there's
> certainly a
> learning curve that most photographers don't crawl up
> before
> announcing to the World that a particular camera is bad at
> high ISO.
> 
> You need a license to own a gun, but they let anyone shoot
> at ISO 6400.
> 
> Rant over. And it wasn't directed at you, Boris. Sorry that
> your
> message was the one I replied to.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
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Re: Tamron's lenses to be auto corrected in Adobe CS5 and LR3

[Charles Robinson]

On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:27, Miserere wrote:

> Good to hear that Tamron are releasing those secret numbers to Adobe
> so automatic distortion, chromatic aberration and vignetting
> correction will be applied to all Tammy lenses. If I remember
> correctly, none of the big brands turned over their profiles, correct?

I was disappointed to see that v3.2 has profiles for most Pentax lenses but NOT 
the original 18-55 kit lens.  At least, it's unable to detect that as the lens 
used in shots I made with it.  Or could it be the combination of K-7 and 
"original kit lens" which gets LR confused?

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Re: K7 or Kx

[Dario Bonazza]

Rick Womer wrote:


Mis,



I agree with you entirely, with one caveat:  The K10D has
a problem with VPN (vertical pattern noise), which often
screwed up nocturnal landscape shots.  Sometimes I
could make it go away with LR, but sometimes not.


That was dubbed "the Italian flag syndrome" over here, as it looks like an 
Italian flag superimposed filter.


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Re: Tamron's lenses to be auto corrected in Adobe CS5 and LR3

[Thibouille]

Charles, LR 3.2 only has profiles for Pentax 534 FA/DFA lenses.
No other Pentax lens profiles are bundled AFAIR.

2010/9/2, Charles Robinson :
> On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:27, Miserere wrote:
>
>> Good to hear that Tamron are releasing those secret numbers to Adobe
>> so automatic distortion, chromatic aberration and vignetting
>> correction will be applied to all Tammy lenses. If I remember
>> correctly, none of the big brands turned over their profiles, correct?
>
> I was disappointed to see that v3.2 has profiles for most Pentax lenses but
> NOT the original 18-55 kit lens.  At least, it's unable to detect that as
> the lens used in shots I made with it.  Or could it be the combination of
> K-7 and "original kit lens" which gets LR confused?
>
>  -Charles
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Re: Tamron's lenses to be auto corrected in Adobe CS5 and LR3

[Thibouille]

I meant 645 of course ;)

2010/9/2, Thibouille :
> Charles, LR 3.2 only has profiles for Pentax 534 FA/DFA lenses.
> No other Pentax lens profiles are bundled AFAIR.
>
> 2010/9/2, Charles Robinson :
>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:27, Miserere wrote:
>>
>>> Good to hear that Tamron are releasing those secret numbers to Adobe
>>> so automatic distortion, chromatic aberration and vignetting
>>> correction will be applied to all Tammy lenses. If I remember
>>> correctly, none of the big brands turned over their profiles, correct?
>>
>> I was disappointed to see that v3.2 has profiles for most Pentax lenses
>> but
>> NOT the original 18-55 kit lens.  At least, it's unable to detect that as
>> the lens used in shots I made with it.  Or could it be the combination of
>> K-7 and "original kit lens" which gets LR confused?
>>
>>  -Charles
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Re: PESO - Vaporware

[Dario Bonazza]

Thanks a lot, Dave.

Dario

- Original Message - 
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On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 3:45 AM, Larry Colen (Droid Mail)
 wrote:
Awesome tones and sharpness, gorgeous woman, and I love the expression on 
the guy. It's almost two completely different photos that would each 
stand on their own,


Totally agree

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Re: K7 or Kx

[Miserere]

On 2 September 2010 11:43, Rick Womer  wrote:
> Mis,
>
> I agree with you entirely, with one caveat:  The K10D has a problem with VPN 
> (vertical pattern noise), which often screwed up nocturnal landscape shots.  
> Sometimes I could make it go away with LR, but sometimes not.
>
> Rick

That's a whole 'nother can of worms, Rick. And yes, the banding could
be there and be annoying at times, but only in the underexposed
sections of the frame. I imagine bokeh lovers noticed it the most  ;-)


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Re: PESO - Vaporware

[Miserere]

On 2 September 2010 12:06, Dario Bonazza  wrote:
> Thanks a lot, Dave.
>
> Dario

Nice photo...but the guy behind the woman is freaking me out!!!

Well seen, Dario.


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Re: Lightroom v3.2 and Camera Raw v6.2 are released

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Such it is.

I've experimented with the cache size on my system further. For my
size catalog ... 78,000 image files ... 10G seems to be the balance
point between providing better speed and not consuming more disk space
than necessary.


On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:44 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
>>
>> You should convince her to set the "Camera Raw Cache Settings" to the
>> default location. A cache size of 1 to 4 Gbytes is about right for
>> most users. In Lightroom 3.2, this setting is in the Lightroom
>> Preferences dialog, "File Handling" tab panel.
>
> Without being specific, because I didn't know exactly what was causing it,
> I'd already suggested pretty much that ... whatever was creating the cache
> files was set to desktop when it should be set to a folder.
>
> But it seems like one of those things where she'd rather bitch about it than
> listen to anything an old man might suggest. I've offered my idea and she
> can do what she wants. I'm going to let it go.
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Re: Tamron's lenses to be auto corrected in Adobe CS5 and LR3

[Toine]

LR3.2 has profiles for the Samsung 18-55 and 50-200. You can manually
select these profiles

Toine

On 2 September 2010 17:44, Charles Robinson  wrote:
> On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:27, Miserere wrote:
>
>> Good to hear that Tamron are releasing those secret numbers to Adobe
>> so automatic distortion, chromatic aberration and vignetting
>> correction will be applied to all Tammy lenses. If I remember
>> correctly, none of the big brands turned over their profiles, correct?
>
> I was disappointed to see that v3.2 has profiles for most Pentax lenses but 
> NOT the original 18-55 kit lens.  At least, it's unable to detect that as the 
> lens used in shots I made with it.  Or could it be the combination of K-7 and 
> "original kit lens" which gets LR confused?
>
>  -Charles
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Re: Tamron's lenses to be auto corrected in Adobe CS5 and LR3

[Steven Desjardins]

Don't give me that.  I know a lensist when a see one.


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> hate thrird party lenses. In fact, some of my best friends are third
> party lenses.
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Re: K7 or Kx

[John Sessoms]

From: "Dario Bonazza"

Rick Womer wrote:


> Mis,
> I agree with you entirely, with one caveat:  The K10D has
> a problem with VPN (vertical pattern noise), which often
> screwed up nocturnal landscape shots.  Sometimes I
> could make it go away with LR, but sometimes not.

That was dubbed "the Italian flag syndrome" over here, as it looks like an
Italian flag superimposed filter.


Googled "Vertical Pattern Noise Pentax K10D" and lo & behold ... yeah, 
that's what I saw that made ISO 1600 un-usable on mine.


It was even there at ISO 800, but not so much. Never a problem at ISO 
400 and below.


So, is there any special post processing noise reduction trick that can 
overcome this? Maybe I could make the high ISO usable if I could remove 
the noise.


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RE: September PUG is up

[Bob W]

> It's here:  http://pug.komkon.org/  On the 1st!  (At least for some of the
> world.)  Thanks to Rick Womer for prodding me.  Without his gentle
> reminders I'd still be 3 months behind.
> 
> The entire gallery this month is digital.  No film.  I think this is only
the second
> time that has occurred.  There are probably more two-wheeled contraptions
> in this gallery than in all the prior galleries combined.  You'll see why.
Pete
> McIntosh's is my favorite.
> 
> There are currently no submissions for October or November.
> http://pdmlpug.org/?page_id=20
> 
> Good night.  Sleep tight.

G'night Johnboy!

Great gallery from Walton's Mountain this month. The stand-out shots for me
are by Carl Gjersem, Dag, annsan and Pete McIntosh. 

The 'recognised who did it without even looking' award goes to Frank!

Here's my non-Pentax contribution, taken in Liskeard, Cornwall last month
(my bike):


The interesting question arising from the one by Pete is 'how does one turn
right or left?'. Today I found myself in one of those horrible separated
cycle lanes in London and it was practically impossible to do the right turn
(left to most people!) I wanted.

The gallery is very timely - I cycled to & from work today for the first
time in my new job. I haven't bike-commuted into the centre of London since
1998. It's amazing how it's changed. Back then there were relatively few
people doing it; today it was incredible, like joining a swarm. There are
some very competitive people out there, and the pace is incredible. Very
enjoyable though, and 50% faster (including shower) than the fastest public
transport I've tried. And over £2,000 per year cheaper.

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Re: Tamron's lenses to be auto corrected in Adobe CS5 and LR3

[Charles Robinson]

On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:54, Thibouille wrote:

> Charles, LR 3.2 only has profiles for Pentax 534 FA/DFA lenses.
> No other Pentax lens profiles are bundled AFAIR.
> 

I wonder where my "Pentax DA 18-55 Kit Lens" profile came from?

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PESO -- Rocky; The Junkyard dog.

[P. J. Alling]

 I haven't had time to read the PDML for the last few days, just note 
the growing backlog...

(Still not as many as would have accumulated just a few years ago).

However I have been able to take a few photos lately.  The M 40mm f2.8 
pretty much lives on the *ist-Ds lately, and it's my carry everywhere 
camera.


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20rockythejunkyarddog.html

Equipment:  Pentax *ist-Ds/w smc Pentax M 40mm f2,8

Notes:  This guy is pretty mellow for a Junkyard dog.  That and it was 
hotter than blazes the last couple of days.  Converted to B&W with the 
FOTOMATIC B&W plus converter, Green filter applied.


As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

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Re: PESO -- Rocky; The Junkyard dog.

[Walter Gilbert]

   Great shot.  I get the sense that Rocky could be enticed to let you 
have the run of the place in exchange for a Kong Ball filled with peanut 
butter.



On 9/2/2010 2:09 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
 I haven't had time to read the PDML for the last few days, just note 
the growing backlog...

(Still not as many as would have accumulated just a few years ago).

However I have been able to take a few photos lately.  The M 40mm f2.8 
pretty much lives on the *ist-Ds lately, and it's my carry everywhere 
camera.


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20rockythejunkyarddog.html 



Equipment:  Pentax *ist-Ds/w smc Pentax M 40mm f2,8

Notes:  This guy is pretty mellow for a Junkyard dog.  That and it was 
hotter than blazes the last couple of days.  Converted to B&W with the 
FOTOMATIC B&W plus converter, Green filter applied.


As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.




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Re: PESO -- Rocky; The Junkyard dog.

[Jack Davis]

Like this, Peter. The fence works well in this case. Nice conversion!

Jack

--- On Thu, 9/2/10, P. J. Alling  wrote:

> From: P. J. Alling 
> Subject: PESO -- Rocky; The Junkyard dog.
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Thursday, September 2, 2010, 12:09 PM
>  I haven't had time to read the PDML
> for the last few days, just note the growing backlog...
> (Still not as many as would have accumulated just a few
> years ago).
> 
> However I have been able to take a few photos lately. 
> The M 40mm f2.8 pretty much lives on the *ist-Ds lately, and
> it's my carry everywhere camera.
> 
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20rockythejunkyarddog.html
> 
> Equipment:  Pentax *ist-Ds/w smc Pentax M 40mm f2,8
> 
> Notes:  This guy is pretty mellow for a Junkyard
> dog.  That and it was hotter than blazes the last
> couple of days.  Converted to B&W with the
> FOTOMATIC B&W plus converter, Green filter applied.
> 
> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
> 
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Re: PESO -- Rocky; The Junkyard dog.

[P N Stenquist]

Excellent composition. Interesting subject.

I like the camera/lens combo you're using. I frequently used that lens  
with my *istD. It's a nice, compact package.


Paul
On Sep 2, 2010, at 3:09 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

I haven't had time to read the PDML for the last few days, just note  
the growing backlog...

(Still not as many as would have accumulated just a few years ago).

However I have been able to take a few photos lately.  The M 40mm  
f2.8 pretty much lives on the *ist-Ds lately, and it's my carry  
everywhere camera.


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20rockythejunkyarddog.html

Equipment:  Pentax *ist-Ds/w smc Pentax M 40mm f2,8

Notes:  This guy is pretty mellow for a Junkyard dog.  That and it  
was hotter than blazes the last couple of days.  Converted to B&W  
with the FOTOMATIC B&W plus converter, Green filter applied.


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PESO -- You Can Kill a Horse but not a Cadillac (1905).

[P. J. Alling]

 Advertising slogan not withstanding, you can still try...

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Equipment:  Pentax *ist-Ds/w smc Pentax M-40mm f2.8

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Re: Doug's book

[mike wilson]

Rick Womer wrote:


Six; but not delivered yet.


Nine.  But not ordered yet.  8-))

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Re: Tamron's lenses to be auto corrected in Adobe CS5 and LR3

[Thibouille]

Those are OIS lenses which means NX lenses.
Probably not the same optical formula, so I wouldn't use those at all.

2010/9/2, Toine :
> LR3.2 has profiles for the Samsung 18-55 and 50-200. You can manually
> select these profiles
>
> Toine
>
> On 2 September 2010 17:44, Charles Robinson  wrote:
>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:27, Miserere wrote:
>>
>>> Good to hear that Tamron are releasing those secret numbers to Adobe
>>> so automatic distortion, chromatic aberration and vignetting
>>> correction will be applied to all Tammy lenses. If I remember
>>> correctly, none of the big brands turned over their profiles, correct?
>>
>> I was disappointed to see that v3.2 has profiles for most Pentax lenses
>> but NOT the original 18-55 kit lens.  At least, it's unable to detect that
>> as the lens used in shots I made with it.  Or could it be the combination
>> of K-7 and "original kit lens" which gets LR confused?
>>
>>  -Charles
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Re: Tamron's lenses to be auto corrected in Adobe CS5 and LR3

[Thibouille]

You may have added it yourself.
I did with a profile for K7+DA*50-135 I found on the web.
I just checked my LR3.2 install, no Pentax lenses profiles but FA/DFA 645.

2010/9/2, Charles Robinson :
> On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:54, Thibouille wrote:
>
>> Charles, LR 3.2 only has profiles for Pentax 534 FA/DFA lenses.
>> No other Pentax lens profiles are bundled AFAIR.
>>
>
> I wonder where my "Pentax DA 18-55 Kit Lens" profile came from?
>
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Re: PESO -- You Can Kill a Horse but not a Cadillac (1905).

[CheekyGeek]

I wouldn't think a copper pipe would make a great tire iron, but to
each his own!

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Re: K7 or Kx

[Steven Desjardins]

The D-Li90 takes forever to charge, i.e., the light won't go out.  I
did take a few not fully charged shots of my dog:

http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=view¤t=IMGP0023.jpg

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
> As much as I enjoy this, I probably should 'fess up.  A friend of a
> friend had a K7 and kindly let me try it with my own SD card.  I tired
> exactly what Mis. mentioned, i.e., I took a few correctly exposed
> shots at 1600, 3200, and 6400.  I was more than satisfied in that I
> probably won't try anything worse than that. (I can only imagine what
> the Kx can do if this is what people consider unacceptable.) This
> being said, I hadn't realized how much the K7 was similar in form
> factor to the D/DS with some extra weight.  I also tried some
> difficult exposure situations and was pleasantly surprised as how god
> it was.  That is probably more important to me than the really high
> iso performance.  At least for now.  BTW, I think Mis and Boris both
> have legitimate points.  One big difference is always what the shooter
> considers acceptable, and, as they say, there is no dispute in matters
> of taste.
>
> My K7 will arrive today.  Thanks for all the advice folks.  I am giddy
> in anticipation.
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I hate my K10D's AF

[eckinator]

Aaaargh... that thing doesn't have front or back focus, it has effin'
wack focus... I just finished culling over 100 pictures of Mattis
riding a slow kids' carousel and less than ten are properly focused. I
shot images using both auto and manual focus point selection as I was
anticipating this. Please tell me the current models have more brains
before I am tempted to succumb to the yellow peril again...

RGH

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Re: PESO -- You Can Kill a Horse but not a Cadillac (1905).

[P. J. Alling]

 It was rusty iron.

On 9/2/2010 4:38 PM, CheekyGeek wrote:

I wouldn't think a copper pipe would make a great tire iron, but to
each his own!

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Re: Ot: a play on words a day keeps the doctor away PUN warning , one photo reference

[P. J. Alling]

 This is for Ann, not good enough to be a PESO really, and not 
particularly subtle either...


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/mb%26t.html

On 8/26/2010 12:34 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
These may have been seen by some -- I have a particularly good source 
for stuff like this

Enjoy -

ann


A man's home is his castle, in a manor of speaking.
Dijon  vu - the same mustard as before.
Practice safe eating - always use condiments.
Shotgun wedding - A case of wife or death.
A man needs a mistress just to break the monogamy.
A hangover is the wrath of grapes.
Dancing cheek-to-cheek is really a form of floor play.
Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?
Condoms should be used on every conceivable occasion.
 Reading  while sunbathing makes you well red.
When two egotists meet, it's an I for an I.
A bicycle can't stand on its own because it is two tired.
What's the definition of a will? (It's a dead give away.)
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
In democracy your vote counts. In feudalism your count votes.
She was engaged to a boyfriend with a wooden leg but broke it off.
A chicken crossing the road is poultry in motion.
If you don't pay your exorcist, you get repossessed.
With her marriage, she got a new name and a dress.
The man who fell into an upholstery machine is fully recovered.
You feel stuck with your debt if you can't budge it.
Local Area Network in  Australia  - the LAN down under.
Every calendar's days are numbered.
A lot of money is tainted -  Taint yours and taint mine.
A boiled egg in the morning is hard to beat.
He had a photographic memory that was never developed.
A midget fortune-teller who escapes from prison is a small medium 
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Once you've seen one shopping center, you've seen a mall.
Bakers trade bread recipes on a knead-to-know basis.
Santa's helpers are subordinate clauses.
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Re: PESO -- You Can Kill a Horse but not a Cadillac (1905).

[P. J. Alling]

 Looks like rusted steel to me.

On 9/2/2010 4:38 PM, CheekyGeek wrote:

I wouldn't think a copper pipe would make a great tire iron, but to
each his own!

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Re: I hate my K10D's AF

[David J Brooks]

AF C or AF S

Dave

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 4:52 PM, eckinator  wrote:
> Aaaargh... that thing doesn't have front or back focus, it has effin'
> wack focus... I just finished culling over 100 pictures of Mattis
> riding a slow kids' carousel and less than ten are properly focused. I
> shot images using both auto and manual focus point selection as I was
> anticipating this. Please tell me the current models have more brains
> before I am tempted to succumb to the yellow peril again...
>
> RGH
>
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Re: PESO: Chives

[David J Brooks]

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Thanks, Dave! I consider it a modest effort.
>
> Jack

Well, they are just chives, not Spanish onions.:-)

Dave
>
> --- On Wed, 9/1/10, David J Brooks  wrote:
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>> From: David J Brooks 
>> Subject: Re: PESO: Chives
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 11:43 PM
>> I think it works well. I'm led to the
>> subject not the background, so i
>> don't find it to strong.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Jack Davis 
>> wrote:
>> > I was idling around in the back your in the area of my
>> wife's West vegetable garden (yes, there is an East) when I
>> noticed this plant.
>> > I, obviously, liked the structure of it and went for
>> some equipment.
>> > I knew I had to isolate it from some dead ground cover
>> and give it a background. I eliminated the dead stuff at the
>> bottom by cropping it off in the viewfinder. Shot this a
>> f/2.8 but still got a somewhat busy cucumber background. I
>> blurred and darkened it, and reduced the "spotty" look.
>> > I asked my wife what it was and she said "they're
>> chives that should have been picked prior to reaching this
>> stage."
>> > Light thing in the lower left corner is stepping stone
>> paver which I left as an offset to the mums (?) on the
>> right.
>> > Thought it about time I offered "something."
>> >
>> > Jack
>> >
>> > Comments welcome, of course.
>> >
>> > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=527
>> >
>> >
>> > K20, f/2.8, 1/4000, ISO 400, da50~...@123mm, hand
>> held
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Re: PESO - Curveball

[David J Brooks]

Well done Frank.You have caught the picture and ball pretty darn well.

Dave

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:07 AM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> There's a lot of things I ~don't~ like about this one, but enough good
> things that I'm showing it anyway.
>
> ;-)
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/09/curveball.html
>
> For one thing I had the wrong lens (from my vantagepoint I needed
> something shorter than 200mm, so a zoom would have been nice).
> Hopefully this weekend there'll be some games and I can spend a good
> long time there with a zoom getting more shots.
>
> *istD, M200mm f4.0, Manfrotto monopod.
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> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
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Re: Tamron's lenses to be auto corrected in Adobe CS5 and LR3

[Toine]

No I didn't add it, must have slipstreamed with the 3.3 update. Also
didn't try the profiles. I did try the Tamron 18-250 profiles. Several
versions are listed. Some make vignetting worse. Found one ok profile.

Toine

On 2 September 2010 22:31, Thibouille  wrote:
> You may have added it yourself.
> I did with a profile for K7+DA*50-135 I found on the web.
> I just checked my LR3.2 install, no Pentax lenses profiles but FA/DFA 645.
>
> 2010/9/2, Charles Robinson :
>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:54, Thibouille wrote:
>>
>>> Charles, LR 3.2 only has profiles for Pentax 534 FA/DFA lenses.
>>> No other Pentax lens profiles are bundled AFAIR.
>>>
>>
>> I wonder where my "Pentax DA 18-55 Kit Lens" profile came from?
>>
>>  -Charles
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Re: K7 or Kx

[Charles Robinson]

On Sep 2, 2010, at 15:51, Steven Desjardins wrote:

> The D-Li90 takes forever to charge, i.e., the light won't go out.  I
> did take a few not fully charged shots of my dog:
> 
> http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=view¤t=IMGP0023.jpg
> 

Future charges won't take anywhere near as long, or at least that has been my 
experience!


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Re: I hate my K10D's AF

[Steven Desjardins]

"Aaaargh... that thing doesn't have front or back focus, it has effin'
wack focus..."

Oh, Mark  . . .

I've been there. I feel your pain.  Well, not really, but I remember
feeling your pain.


On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 4:59 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> AF C or AF S
>
> Dave
>
> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 4:52 PM, eckinator  wrote:
>> Aaaargh... that thing doesn't have front or back focus, it has effin'
>> wack focus... I just finished culling over 100 pictures of Mattis
>> riding a slow kids' carousel and less than ten are properly focused. I
>> shot images using both auto and manual focus point selection as I was
>> anticipating this. Please tell me the current models have more brains
>> before I am tempted to succumb to the yellow peril again...
>>
>> RGH
>>
>> --
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>> Ecke
>>
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Re: I hate my K10D's AF

[eckinator]

Probably AF-C knowing myself but I can't say 100%
Thanks
Ecke

2010/9/2 David J Brooks :
> AF C or AF S
>
> Dave
>
> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 4:52 PM, eckinator  wrote:
>> Aaaargh... that thing doesn't have front or back focus, it has effin'
>> wack focus... I just finished culling over 100 pictures of Mattis
>> riding a slow kids' carousel and less than ten are properly focused. I
>> shot images using both auto and manual focus point selection as I was
>> anticipating this. Please tell me the current models have more brains
>> before I am tempted to succumb to the yellow peril again...
>>
>> RGH
>>
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>>
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Re: Tamron's lenses to be auto corrected in Adobe CS5 and LR3

[Thibouille]

Mmm but 3.2 is the latest version released just days ago...
Something's fishy...

The Tamron profiles finishing with a P at the end are Pentax versions.

2010/9/2, Toine :
> No I didn't add it, must have slipstreamed with the 3.3 update. Also
> didn't try the profiles. I did try the Tamron 18-250 profiles. Several
> versions are listed. Some make vignetting worse. Found one ok profile.
>
> Toine
>
> On 2 September 2010 22:31, Thibouille  wrote:
>> You may have added it yourself.
>> I did with a profile for K7+DA*50-135 I found on the web.
>> I just checked my LR3.2 install, no Pentax lenses profiles but FA/DFA 645.
>>
>> 2010/9/2, Charles Robinson :
>>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:54, Thibouille wrote:
>>>
 Charles, LR 3.2 only has profiles for Pentax 534 FA/DFA lenses.
 No other Pentax lens profiles are bundled AFAIR.

>>>
>>> I wonder where my "Pentax DA 18-55 Kit Lens" profile came from?
>>>
>>>  -Charles
>>>
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Re: I hate my K10D's AF

[Thibouille]

They did make progress, clearly.
But AF-C, with "objects" going from or to the camera are still Pentax
AF nightmare.
K7 AF-S is much better than K10 though.

2010/9/2, eckinator :
> Aaaargh... that thing doesn't have front or back focus, it has effin'
> wack focus... I just finished culling over 100 pictures of Mattis
> riding a slow kids' carousel and less than ten are properly focused. I
> shot images using both auto and manual focus point selection as I was
> anticipating this. Please tell me the current models have more brains
> before I am tempted to succumb to the yellow peril again...
>
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Re: PESO -- You Can Kill a Horse but not a Cadillac (1905).

[P. J. Alling]

 On 9/2/2010 4:54 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 Looks like rusted steel to me.

On 9/2/2010 4:38 PM, CheekyGeek wrote:

I wouldn't think a copper pipe would make a great tire iron, but to
each his own!

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PESO: Crab Apples

[Collin Brendemuehl]

http://www.brendemuehl.net/images/apples.jpg  (20%)
http://www.brendemuehl.net/images/apples2.jpg (100%)

I decided to stick my son's Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 135/3.5 on the K-X.
Hand-held.  ISO 200, Av mode.  jpg file format.
Metering is in averaging mode, so with the sky and brees
I had to over-expose about 1 1/3 stops, iirc.
Nice color saturation.  Better than the K100D.

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Re: I hate my K10D's AF

[eckinator]

2010/9/2 Thibouille :
> They did make progress, clearly.
> But AF-C, with "objects" going from or to the camera are still Pentax
> AF nightmare.
> K7 AF-S is much better than K10 though.

It seems to me like AF doesn't pick something to follow but will just
randomly focus on the highest contrast item closest to any given focus
point with a slight preference for the more central ones. This usually
doesn't mean faces etc. I have many perfectly focused shots of hand
rails and seat backs...
Thanks
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Re: PESO -- You Can Kill a Horse but not a Cadillac (1905).

[Rob Studdert]

On 3 September 2010 07:19, P. J. Alling  wrote:

> GEEZ how many times will I answer this damned question?  (Three so far).

If it's soldered or brazed plumbing pipe then it's probably not iron or steel.

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Re: Tamron's lenses to be auto corrected in Adobe CS5 and LR3

[Toine]

No I never learned how to use a keyboard :)

On 2 September 2010 23:19, Thibouille  wrote:
> Mmm but 3.2 is the latest version released just days ago...
> Something's fishy...
>
> The Tamron profiles finishing with a P at the end are Pentax versions.
>
> 2010/9/2, Toine :
>> No I didn't add it, must have slipstreamed with the 3.3 update. Also
>> didn't try the profiles. I did try the Tamron 18-250 profiles. Several
>> versions are listed. Some make vignetting worse. Found one ok profile.
>>
>> Toine
>>
>> On 2 September 2010 22:31, Thibouille  wrote:
>>> You may have added it yourself.
>>> I did with a profile for K7+DA*50-135 I found on the web.
>>> I just checked my LR3.2 install, no Pentax lenses profiles but FA/DFA 645.
>>>
>>> 2010/9/2, Charles Robinson :
 On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:54, Thibouille wrote:

> Charles, LR 3.2 only has profiles for Pentax 534 FA/DFA lenses.
> No other Pentax lens profiles are bundled AFAIR.
>

 I wonder where my "Pentax DA 18-55 Kit Lens" profile came from?

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Re: PESO -- You Can Kill a Horse but not a Cadillac (1905).

[P. J. Alling]

 On 9/2/2010 5:36 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

On 3 September 2010 07:19, P. J. Alling  wrote:


GEEZ how many times will I answer this damned question?  (Three so far).

If it's soldered or brazed plumbing pipe then it's probably not iron or steel.


It was the pipe that came with the scissors jack AFAICT

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Re: PESO -- You Can Kill a Horse but not a Cadillac (1905).

[Steven Desjardins]

A rusty iron pipe with a shut-off valve?  Piece of copper water pipe, fess up.

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:37 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
>  On 9/2/2010 5:36 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:
>>
>> On 3 September 2010 07:19, P. J. Alling
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> GEEZ how many times will I answer this damned question?  (Three so far).
>>
>> If it's soldered or brazed plumbing pipe then it's probably not iron or
>> steel.
>>
> It was the pipe that came with the scissors jack AFAICT
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Re: PESO -- You Can Kill a Horse but not a Cadillac (1905).

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On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
> A rusty iron pipe with a shut-off valve?  Piece of copper water pipe, fess up.

Actually, my old house has a fair amount of rusty iron pipe with
shut-off valves.
Scared to try turning one of them.

Random thought: Title would have been funnier if there was a smoking
gun pointed at the tire blowout.

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Re: Tamron's lenses to be auto corrected in Adobe CS5 and LR3

[Charles Robinson]

On Sep 2, 2010, at 15:31, Thibouille wrote:

> You may have added it yourself.

Freaky.  I remember adding someone's DA*16-50 (works great) but not the kit.  
Old age is rotting my memory...

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Re: I hate my K10D's AF

[P N Stenquist]

The K7 can handle that easily in either S or C mode.

On Sep 2, 2010, at 4:52 PM, eckinator wrote:


Aaaargh... that thing doesn't have front or back focus, it has effin'
wack focus... I just finished culling over 100 pictures of Mattis
riding a slow kids' carousel and less than ten are properly focused. I
shot images using both auto and manual focus point selection as I was
anticipating this. Please tell me the current models have more brains
before I am tempted to succumb to the yellow peril again...

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Re: PESO -- You Can Kill a Horse but not a Cadillac (1905).

[Jack Davis]

No, but it might make you feel a little better if you shot it anyway. ;)

Jack

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> From: P. J. Alling 
> Subject: PESO -- You Can Kill a Horse but not a Cadillac (1905).
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Thursday, September 2, 2010, 12:53 PM
>  Advertising slogan not withstanding,
> you can still try...
> 
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20youcankillahorsebutnotacadalac%281905%29.html
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Re: PESO: Chives

[Jack Davis]

I'd eat either or both in sour cream on a backed potato.

Jack

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> From: David J Brooks 
> Subject: Re: PESO: Chives
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Thursday, September 2, 2010, 2:00 PM
> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Jack
> Davis 
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> > Thanks, Dave! I consider it a modest effort.
> >
> > Jack
> 
> Well, they are just chives, not Spanish onions.:-)
> 
> Dave
> >
> > --- On Wed, 9/1/10, David J Brooks 
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> >> From: David J Brooks 
> >> Subject: Re: PESO: Chives
> >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> >> Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 11:43 PM
> >> I think it works well. I'm led to the
> >> subject not the background, so i
> >> don't find it to strong.
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Jack Davis 
> >> wrote:
> >> > I was idling around in the back your in the
> area of my
> >> wife's West vegetable garden (yes, there is an
> East) when I
> >> noticed this plant.
> >> > I, obviously, liked the structure of it and
> went for
> >> some equipment.
> >> > I knew I had to isolate it from some dead
> ground cover
> >> and give it a background. I eliminated the dead
> stuff at the
> >> bottom by cropping it off in the viewfinder. Shot
> this a
> >> f/2.8 but still got a somewhat busy cucumber
> background. I
> >> blurred and darkened it, and reduced the "spotty"
> look.
> >> > I asked my wife what it was and she said
> "they're
> >> chives that should have been picked prior to
> reaching this
> >> stage."
> >> > Light thing in the lower left corner is
> stepping stone
> >> paver which I left as an offset to the mums (?) on
> the
> >> right.
> >> > Thought it about time I offered "something."
> >> >
> >> > Jack
> >> >
> >> > Comments welcome, of course.
> >> >
> >> > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=527
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> >> >
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Re: K7 or Kx

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What the VPN screwed up the most for me was shots of beautifully illuminated 
buildings or cityscapes against a dusk or nighttime sky.  Sometimes diddling 
with the white balance has helped, but usually it didn't.

Rick

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> On 2 September 2010 11:43, Rick Womer
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> > I agree with you entirely, with one caveat:  The K10D
> has a problem with VPN (vertical pattern noise), which often
> screwed up nocturnal landscape shots.  Sometimes I could
> make it go away with LR, but sometimes not.
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> > Rick
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Re: PESO -- You Can Kill a Horse but not a Cadillac (1905).

[Steven Desjardins]

"Actually, my old house has a fair amount of rusty iron pipe with
shut-off valves.
Scared to try turning one of them."

You folks know how to live on the edge there in Nebraska.  ;-)

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:51 PM, CheekyGeek  wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
>> A rusty iron pipe with a shut-off valve?  Piece of copper water pipe, fess 
>> up.
>
> Actually, my old house has a fair amount of rusty iron pipe with
> shut-off valves.
> Scared to try turning one of them.
>
> Random thought: Title would have been funnier if there was a smoking
> gun pointed at the tire blowout.
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Peso: Boston

[Steven Desjardins]

I went to meeting in Boston last week.  Pedaling in the fitness room
after dinner and saw this view out the window.  Got my E-P1 from the
room, shut off the lights in the fitness room and shot through the
glass.

http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=view¤t=bostoncity.jpg

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Re: Tamron's lenses to be auto corrected in Adobe CS5 and LR3

[Steven Desjardins]

I'm waiting for the day when I can buy lousy lenses and have PS fix the pics.

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>> You may have added it yourself.
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Re: PESO -- Rocky; The Junkyard dog.

[Steven Desjardins]

I love it.  I'm one of those people that has warm feelings about junkyards.

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>  I haven't had time to read the PDML for the last few days, just note the
> growing backlog...
> (Still not as many as would have accumulated just a few years ago).
>
> However I have been able to take a few photos lately.  The M 40mm f2.8
> pretty much lives on the *ist-Ds lately, and it's my carry everywhere
> camera.
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20rockythejunkyarddog.html
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> Equipment:  Pentax *ist-Ds/w smc Pentax M 40mm f2,8
>
> Notes:  This guy is pretty mellow for a Junkyard dog.  That and it was
> hotter than blazes the last couple of days.  Converted to B&W with the
> FOTOMATIC B&W plus converter, Green filter applied.
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RE: PESO - Storm in the East

[Brian Walters]

On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 20:40 +0100, "Bob W"  wrote:
> > (incidentally, this is just down the road from home - my house is behind
> the
> > trees on the top left).
> > 
> > 
> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP8095peso.html
> > 
> > (K200D; 16-45mm DA; ISO 400; f16; 1/60sec)
> > 
> 
> very nice - I like the pattern of the furrows, if that's what they are.
> 



I think they were just patterns in the grass left over from mowing the
paddock.

Thanks to everyone who looked/commented.  Very much appreciated.



Cheers

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Re: PESO -- Rocky; The Junkyard dog.

[paul stenquist]

On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:44 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

> I love it.  I'm one of those people that has warm feelings about junkyards.

Would you like to talk about that? 

> 
> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 3:09 PM, P. J. Alling  
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>>  I haven't had time to read the PDML for the last few days, just note the
>> growing backlog...
>> (Still not as many as would have accumulated just a few years ago).
>> 
>> However I have been able to take a few photos lately.  The M 40mm f2.8
>> pretty much lives on the *ist-Ds lately, and it's my carry everywhere
>> camera.
>> 
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20rockythejunkyarddog.html
>> 
>> Equipment:  Pentax *ist-Ds/w smc Pentax M 40mm f2,8
>> 
>> Notes:  This guy is pretty mellow for a Junkyard dog.  That and it was
>> hotter than blazes the last couple of days.  Converted to B&W with the
>> FOTOMATIC B&W plus converter, Green filter applied.
>> 
>> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
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Re: I hate my K10D's AF

[David Savage]

I was helping a friend use my K20D a few weeks ago. I had forgotten
how craptacularly slow the AF was.

The AF on the D700 is awesome...

DS

On 3 September 2010 04:52, eckinator  wrote:
> Aaaargh... that thing doesn't have front or back focus, it has effin'
> wack focus... I just finished culling over 100 pictures of Mattis
> riding a slow kids' carousel and less than ten are properly focused. I
> shot images using both auto and manual focus point selection as I was
> anticipating this. Please tell me the current models have more brains
> before I am tempted to succumb to the yellow peril again...
>
> RGH
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Re: GESO today's photowalk

[steve harley]

On 2010-09-01 08:36 , Toine wrote:

I didn't have much time to take pictures or read the pdml mail in the
last weeks. I marked all my mail as read and grabbed my DA35 and new
Metz ringflash for a photowalk:

http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/148-photowalk


the fly is dandy -- makes me think i'm in the fly's world (seeing the 
way a fly sees ...)


the spider is surreal; i think a slight angle would help as the flash 
has made it seem very two-dimensional when it is so symmetrical


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Re: Peso: Boston

[Miserere]

On 2 September 2010 18:36, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
> I went to meeting in Boston last week.  Pedaling in the fitness room
> after dinner and saw this view out the window.  Got my E-P1 from the
> room, shut off the lights in the fitness room and shot through the
> glass.
>
> http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=view¤t=bostoncity.jpg
>
> E-P1, Lumix 20 mm, f1.7, 1/40 s iso 1600
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Hey, you could'a let us Bostonians know you were coming...especially
if you were going to have such nice views  :-)

Nice shot of the Hancock.


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Re: Tamron or Sigma 18-200 vs Pentax 18-250

[Adam Maas]

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 8:46 AM, eckinator  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> just checked, I can have my 18-250 repaired for EUR 122,57 or replace
> it with an Tamron or Sigma 18-200 for 160 - which would you do? Also
> can anyone comment on IQ differences if there are any?
>
> TIA Ecke

Neither the Tamron nor the Sigma 18-200's are worth bothering with. If
you're going to replace the Pentax 18-250, get the Tamron 18-250, it's
the same lens.

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Re: PESO: My first Red Tail Hawk

[Miserere]

On 30 August 2010 20:55, David Parsons  wrote:
> My very first Red Tailed Hawk shots. They aren't the sharpest, and a
> little blurry, but I was working quickly to get some shots before he
> decided to fly off (and he flew off right after the second picture.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/4942134355/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/4942723408/

Looks fine to me, Dave! Those Boston redtails are pretty tame; I once
came upon one that had landed on a traffic light and I was able to
photograph it for 15 minutes, until I got bored and walked off (I was
on my way to work, after all). Sadly, it was an overcast day so the
photos are of a hawk looking bored on a traffic light with a white sky
in the background. I would've killed for it to be on a tree!  :-)

I was once walking through Harvard Yard and there was a hawk on the
ground in a standoff with a squirrel...and I didn't have a camera.

Then there was the time a hawk had an injured squirrel at its mercy
and I only had my crappy BlackBerry camera...

http://enticingthelight.com/2009/06/24/bird-photography-with-a-camera-phone/

I think redtail hawks are just big photographer teasers.


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Re: September PUG is up

[Brian Walters]

On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 23:02 -0400, "Scott Loveless" 
wrote:
> It's here:  http://pug.komkon.org/  On the 1st!  (At least for some of
> the world.)  Thanks to Rick Womer for prodding me.  Without his gentle
> reminders I'd still be 3 months behind.
> 
> The entire gallery this month is digital.  No film.  I think this is
> only the second time that has occurred.  There are probably more
> two-wheeled contraptions in this gallery than in all the prior
> galleries combined.  You'll see why.  Pete McIntosh's is my favorite.
> 



I like Pete's too - the just slightly off centre composition works
really well.

Other favs:
The Old Motorcycle by George K. Vlachou
Gear change by Patrick Temmerman
Night Truck by Rick Womer

And I got a laugh out of Ann's 'Not So Busy'

But, overall 'Granddaughter and grandfather' by Carl Gjersem is my pick.
 Wonderful composition.




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Re: Spoken audio critique

[Brian Walters]

On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 21:45 -0700, "Sasha Sobol"  wrote:
> http://mykriteek.com
> An Aussie blogger critiques a few Flickr images per day.
> I like this.
> Worth looking through the photos at least.
> And one of my photos is there:)
> 


Well, I found it and I totally agree with the critique.  A great
composition and excellent tonal quality.

I'm not sure I like the audio critique concept, though.  Give me the
written word any day!


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Re: PESO: Chives

[Brian Walters]

On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 08:33 -0700, "Jack Davis" 
wrote:
> I was idling around in the back your in the area of my wife's West
> vegetable garden (yes, there is an East) when I noticed this plant.
> I, obviously, liked the structure of it and went for some equipment.
> I knew I had to isolate it from some dead ground cover and give it a
> background. I eliminated the dead stuff at the bottom by cropping it off
> in the viewfinder. Shot this a f/2.8 but still got a somewhat busy
> cucumber background. I blurred and darkened it, and reduced the "spotty"
> look.
> I asked my wife what it was and she said "they're chives that should have
> been picked prior to reaching this stage."
> Light thing in the lower left corner is stepping stone paver which I left
> as an offset to the mums (?) on the right.
> Thought it about time I offered "something."
> 
> Jack
> 
> Comments welcome, of course.
> 
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=527
>


Nicely composed.  The 'balance' to the image is just about right.  I do
find the background a bit distracting - maybe a trifle more blurring?



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Re: GESO Lime Kiln Bay

[Brian Walters]

On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 08:43 +1000, "Rob Studdert"
 wrote:
> Hi Team,
> 
> Following are a small set of images shot during two walks though Lime
> Kiln Bay reserve, the area is typical of Sydney bushlands and
> mangroves. All shot hand held with my now trusty back pocket resident
> s90, I hope you enjoy:
> 
> http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/LimeKilnBay?authkey=Gv1sRgCMzpiMaWvNLX_gE#
> 



I don't think I've ever been to that part of the world - my knowledge of
southern Sydney is woefully inadequate!

I like the wildflower images but my favourite has to be the eucalypt
bark.


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Re: PESO - Charlotte's Web

[Brian Walters]

On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 20:14 -0700, "Bruce Dayton"
 wrote:
> I've been very busy, not as much personal shooting lately.  Anyway,
> here is a shot that I took this morning out in the garden.  In case
> you didn't get it from the subject, yes it is a spider.
> 
> Pentax K-x, Tamron 90/2.8 Macro, Tripod mounted
> ISO 800, 1/125 sec @ f/11
> 
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto_01044.htm
> 



A very well composed and effective image.  I'm trying to imagine it
without the vertical bit of foliage - on balance, I think the image
would work as well.



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Re: PESO -- Rocky; The Junkyard dog.

[Brian Walters]

On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 15:09 -0400, "P. J. Alling"
 wrote:
>   I haven't had time to read the PDML for the last few days, just note 
> the growing backlog...
> (Still not as many as would have accumulated just a few years ago).
> 
> However I have been able to take a few photos lately.  The M 40mm f2.8 
> pretty much lives on the *ist-Ds lately, and it's my carry everywhere 
> camera.
> 
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20rockythejunkyarddog.html
> 
> Equipment:  Pentax *ist-Ds/w smc Pentax M 40mm f2,8
> 
> Notes:  This guy is pretty mellow for a Junkyard dog.  That and it was 
> hotter than blazes the last couple of days.  Converted to B&W with the 
> FOTOMATIC B&W plus converter, Green filter applied.
> 
> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
>


I like that.  He might be 'mellow' but the fence makes him look
dangerous.



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Re: PESO - Curveball

[Brian Walters]

On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 09:27 -0400, "Daniel J. Matyola"
 wrote:
> I think it is a fine image, Frank.  I like the dof, the position of
> the ball, the expression on the pitcher's face, and the posture of the
> fielder to the left of the pitcher.  The fielder or runner behind the
> pitcher is a bit distracting, but  we work in an imperfect world and
> must take it as it is.  I think this image does a great job of
> portraying the scene and the action.
> 
> Dan




What Dan said.


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> 
> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:07 AM, frank theriault
>  wrote:
> > There's a lot of things I ~don't~ like about this one, but enough good
> > things that I'm showing it anyway.
> >
> > ;-)
> >
> > http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/09/curveball.html
> >
> > For one thing I had the wrong lens (from my vantagepoint I needed
> > something shorter than 200mm, so a zoom would have been nice).
> > Hopefully this weekend there'll be some games and I can spend a good
> > long time there with a zoom getting more shots.
> >
> > *istD, M200mm f4.0, Manfrotto monopod.
> >
> > Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
> >
> > cheers,
> > frank
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Re: I hate my K10D's AF

[John Celio]

I know your pain, bro.  I hate my K10D quite a bit, but when focus is 
critical I hate it even more.


When the day comes that I can afford to upgrade, I'm probably not going to 
sell my K10D.  I wouldn't want to inflict its bullshit on someone else.


No, I may just go Office Space on it:
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Aaaargh... that thing doesn't have front or back focus, it has effin'
wack focus... I just finished culling over 100 pictures of Mattis
riding a slow kids' carousel and less than ten are properly focused. I
shot images using both auto and manual focus point selection as I was
anticipating this. Please tell me the current models have more brains
before I am tempted to succumb to the yellow peril again...

RGH

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Re: Peso: Boston

[John Mullan]

Which Hancock?  I see two of them.  And a Prudential.  At varying times in 
my youth and early adulthood each of them was the tallest building in 
Beantown.  Then again, the newer Hancock was known as the Plywood Ranch when 
its windows were falling out.


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On 2 September 2010 18:36, Steven Desjardins  wrote:

I went to meeting in Boston last week.  Pedaling in the fitness room
after dinner and saw this view out the window.  Got my E-P1 from the
room, shut off the lights in the fitness room and shot through the
glass.

http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=view¤t=bostoncity.jpg

E-P1, Lumix 20 mm, f1.7, 1/40 s iso 1600
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Hey, you could'a let us Bostonians know you were coming...especially
if you were going to have such nice views  :-)

Nice shot of the Hancock.


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Re: PESO: My first Red Tail Hawk

[Miserere]

I got all worked up about those damn redtails and went hunting for a
decent photo of one I might have taken. Just to redeem myself and be
able to sleep:

http://static.photo.net/attachments/bboard/00T/00TeSG-144095584.jpg

We should meet up some day for a photowalk, Dave. When are you meeting
up with that Flickr group you hang out with? Can I tag along?


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On 2 September 2010 21:08, Miserere  wrote:
> On 30 August 2010 20:55, David Parsons  wrote:
>> My very first Red Tailed Hawk shots. They aren't the sharpest, and a
>> little blurry, but I was working quickly to get some shots before he
>> decided to fly off (and he flew off right after the second picture.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/4942134355/
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/4942723408/
>
> Looks fine to me, Dave! Those Boston redtails are pretty tame; I once
> came upon one that had landed on a traffic light and I was able to
> photograph it for 15 minutes, until I got bored and walked off (I was
> on my way to work, after all). Sadly, it was an overcast day so the
> photos are of a hawk looking bored on a traffic light with a white sky
> in the background. I would've killed for it to be on a tree!  :-)
>
> I was once walking through Harvard Yard and there was a hawk on the
> ground in a standoff with a squirrel...and I didn't have a camera.
>
> Then there was the time a hawk had an injured squirrel at its mercy
> and I only had my crappy BlackBerry camera...
>
> http://enticingthelight.com/2009/06/24/bird-photography-with-a-camera-phone/
>
> I think redtail hawks are just big photographer teasers.
>
>
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Re: Peso: Boston

[drd1135]

I remember the plywood. Those of us who grew up in Fall River thought it was 
part of the freedom trail. 
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Which Hancock?  I see two of them.  And a Prudential.  At varying times in 
my youth and early adulthood each of them was the tallest building in 
Beantown.  Then again, the newer Hancock was known as the Plywood Ranch when 
its windows were falling out.

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> On 2 September 2010 18:36, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
>> I went to meeting in Boston last week.  Pedaling in the fitness room
>> after dinner and saw this view out the window.  Got my E-P1 from the
>> room, shut off the lights in the fitness room and shot through the
>> glass.
>>
>> http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=view¤t=bostoncity.jpg
>>
>> E-P1, Lumix 20 mm, f1.7, 1/40 s iso 1600
>> --
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>
> Hey, you could'a let us Bostonians know you were coming...especially
> if you were going to have such nice views  :-)
>
> Nice shot of the Hancock.
>
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Re: I hate my K10D's AF

[drd1135]

Can you feel the love?

It's not too bad if you have time to practice. My K10D did fine at the MC race 
because I has time to prefocus and work out my own timing. 
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I know your pain, bro.  I hate my K10D quite a bit, but when focus is 
critical I hate it even more.

When the day comes that I can afford to upgrade, I'm probably not going to 
sell my K10D.  I wouldn't want to inflict its bullshit on someone else.

No, I may just go Office Space on it:
http://www.vimeo.com/5944863

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Subject: I hate my K10D's AF


Aaaargh... that thing doesn't have front or back focus, it has effin'
wack focus... I just finished culling over 100 pictures of Mattis
riding a slow kids' carousel and less than ten are properly focused. I
shot images using both auto and manual focus point selection as I was
anticipating this. Please tell me the current models have more brains
before I am tempted to succumb to the yellow peril again...

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Re: PESO -- Rocky; The Junkyard dog.

[drd1135]

Somewhere in the middle of all that junk is a treasure waiting to be had for a 
steal. 
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Subject: Re: PESO -- Rocky; The Junkyard dog.


On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:44 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

> I love it.  I'm one of those people that has warm feelings about junkyards.

Would you like to talk about that? 

> 
> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 3:09 PM, P. J. Alling  
> wrote:
>>  I haven't had time to read the PDML for the last few days, just note the
>> growing backlog...
>> (Still not as many as would have accumulated just a few years ago).
>> 
>> However I have been able to take a few photos lately.  The M 40mm f2.8
>> pretty much lives on the *ist-Ds lately, and it's my carry everywhere
>> camera.
>> 
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20rockythejunkyarddog.html
>> 
>> Equipment:  Pentax *ist-Ds/w smc Pentax M 40mm f2,8
>> 
>> Notes:  This guy is pretty mellow for a Junkyard dog.  That and it was
>> hotter than blazes the last couple of days.  Converted to B&W with the
>> FOTOMATIC B&W plus converter, Green filter applied.
>> 
>> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
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Re: I hate my K10D's AF

[paul stenquist]

My memories of the K10D are a bit foggy. I don't remember it in detail, but 
apparently it was at least okay. I do recall that I found it to be an upgrade 
from the *istD. I do believe that I used manual focus far more often than I now 
do with the K7. It's all about adapting to the equipment you're using. 
Paul

On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:11 PM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote:

> Can you feel the love?
> 
> It's not too bad if you have time to practice. My K10D did fine at the MC 
> race because I has time to prefocus and work out my own timing. 
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> From: "John Celio" 
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> Subject: Re: I hate my K10D's AF
> 
> I know your pain, bro.  I hate my K10D quite a bit, but when focus is 
> critical I hate it even more.
> 
> When the day comes that I can afford to upgrade, I'm probably not going to 
> sell my K10D.  I wouldn't want to inflict its bullshit on someone else.
> 
> No, I may just go Office Space on it:
> http://www.vimeo.com/5944863
> 
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> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:52 PM
> Subject: I hate my K10D's AF
> 
> 
> Aaaargh... that thing doesn't have front or back focus, it has effin'
> wack focus... I just finished culling over 100 pictures of Mattis
> riding a slow kids' carousel and less than ten are properly focused. I
> shot images using both auto and manual focus point selection as I was
> anticipating this. Please tell me the current models have more brains
> before I am tempted to succumb to the yellow peril again...
> 
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Re: PESO - Charlotte's Web

[Bruce Dayton]

I would have preferred not to have that in the picture but seeing how the web 
was attached to it I couldn't risk any kind of removal.  Such is real 
life...sigh.

Thanks for taking a look.
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"Brian Walters"  wrote:

>On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 20:14 -0700, "Bruce Dayton"
> wrote:
>> I've been very busy, not as much personal shooting lately.  Anyway,
>> here is a shot that I took this morning out in the garden.  In case
>> you didn't get it from the subject, yes it is a spider.
>> 
>> Pentax K-x, Tamron 90/2.8 Macro, Tripod mounted
>> ISO 800, 1/125 sec @ f/11
>> 
>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto_01044.htm
>> 
>
>
>
>A very well composed and effective image.  I'm trying to imagine it
>without the vertical bit of foliage - on balance, I think the image
>would work as well.
>
>
>
>Cheers
>
>Brian
>
>++
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Re: Spoken audio critique

[Sasha Sobol]

Thanks Brian,

I found spoken  critique weird at first.
But now I think I like it:
I skip through the items in http://mykriteek.com RSS feed and listen
critique for the ones I like most.


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On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 21:45 -0700, "Sasha Sobol"  wrote:
>> http://mykriteek.com
>> An Aussie blogger critiques a few Flickr images per day.
>> I like this.
>> Worth looking through the photos at least.
>> And one of my photos is there:)
>>
>
>
> Well, I found it and I totally agree with the critique.  A great
> composition and excellent tonal quality.
>
> I'm not sure I like the audio critique concept, though.  Give me the
> written word any day!
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
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Re: PESO: My first Red Tail Hawk

[David Parsons]

That would be good, we actually had a meetup recently (That's where
the fountain picture came from).  I'll let you know the next time
something is scheduled.

Let me know anytime you want to get together.

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Miserere  wrote:
> I got all worked up about those damn redtails and went hunting for a
> decent photo of one I might have taken. Just to redeem myself and be
> able to sleep:
>
> http://static.photo.net/attachments/bboard/00T/00TeSG-144095584.jpg
>
> We should meet up some day for a photowalk, Dave. When are you meeting
> up with that Flickr group you hang out with? Can I tag along?
>
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> On 2 September 2010 21:08, Miserere  wrote:
>> On 30 August 2010 20:55, David Parsons  wrote:
>>> My very first Red Tailed Hawk shots. They aren't the sharpest, and a
>>> little blurry, but I was working quickly to get some shots before he
>>> decided to fly off (and he flew off right after the second picture.
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/4942134355/
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/4942723408/
>>
>> Looks fine to me, Dave! Those Boston redtails are pretty tame; I once
>> came upon one that had landed on a traffic light and I was able to
>> photograph it for 15 minutes, until I got bored and walked off (I was
>> on my way to work, after all). Sadly, it was an overcast day so the
>> photos are of a hawk looking bored on a traffic light with a white sky
>> in the background. I would've killed for it to be on a tree!  :-)
>>
>> I was once walking through Harvard Yard and there was a hawk on the
>> ground in a standoff with a squirrel...and I didn't have a camera.
>>
>> Then there was the time a hawk had an injured squirrel at its mercy
>> and I only had my crappy BlackBerry camera...
>>
>> http://enticingthelight.com/2009/06/24/bird-photography-with-a-camera-phone/
>>
>> I think redtail hawks are just big photographer teasers.
>>
>>
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Re: PESO: Chives

[Jack Davis]

Thanks, Brian. Believe I've blurred and smudged about all this shot is worth. =)

Jack

--- On Thu, 9/2/10, Brian Walters  wrote:

> From: Brian Walters 
> Subject: Re: PESO: Chives
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Thursday, September 2, 2010, 6:30 PM
> On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 08:33 -0700,
> "Jack Davis" 
> wrote:
> > I was idling around in the back your in the area of my
> wife's West
> > vegetable garden (yes, there is an East) when I
> noticed this plant.
> > I, obviously, liked the structure of it and went for
> some equipment.
> > I knew I had to isolate it from some dead ground cover
> and give it a
> > background. I eliminated the dead stuff at the bottom
> by cropping it off
> > in the viewfinder. Shot this a f/2.8 but still got a
> somewhat busy
> > cucumber background. I blurred and darkened it, and
> reduced the "spotty"
> > look.
> > I asked my wife what it was and she said "they're
> chives that should have
> > been picked prior to reaching this stage."
> > Light thing in the lower left corner is stepping stone
> paver which I left
> > as an offset to the mums (?) on the right.
> > Thought it about time I offered "something."
> > 
> > Jack
> > 
> > Comments welcome, of course.
> > 
> > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=527
> >
> 
> 
> Nicely composed.  The 'balance' to the image is just
> about right.  I do
> find the background a bit distracting - maybe a trifle more
> blurring?
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
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Re: I hate my K10D's AF

[John Celio]

You don't understand.  My camera backfocuses like it was *meant* to do that, 
even after sending it back to Pentax twice (both times for other problems, 
but I asked them to fix this, too).  The image will look sharp in the 
viewfinder, but when looking at the photo on my computer later it becomes 
apparent that, even though the focus locked on a particular subject (say, a 
person standing six feet from me), the sharpest part of the photo is just 
behind them.  Something is misaligned, and Pentax/CRIS hasn't bothered to 
fix it, even though their repair papers said they did.


When I'm focusing manually, I will sometimes take a few extra photos with 
what I see in the viewfinder slightly out of focus, hoping I'll find the 
sweet spot somewhere.


I swear, if I didn't have so much Pentax junk here, I'd go buy a Nikon.

John
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Subject: Re: I hate my K10D's AF


Can you feel the love?

It's not too bad if you have time to practice. My K10D did fine at the MC 
race because I has time to prefocus and work out my own timing.

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I know your pain, bro.  I hate my K10D quite a bit, but when focus is
critical I hate it even more.

When the day comes that I can afford to upgrade, I'm probably not going to
sell my K10D.  I wouldn't want to inflict its bullshit on someone else.

No, I may just go Office Space on it:
http://www.vimeo.com/5944863

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To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:52 PM
Subject: I hate my K10D's AF


Aaaargh... that thing doesn't have front or back focus, it has effin'
wack focus... I just finished culling over 100 pictures of Mattis
riding a slow kids' carousel and less than ten are properly focused. I
shot images using both auto and manual focus point selection as I was
anticipating this. Please tell me the current models have more brains
before I am tempted to succumb to the yellow peril again...

RGH

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