Re: GESO: Schooner Fest
On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 10:58 -0400, "David Parsons" wrote: > I went on Gloucester Harbor, MA on Sunday for the Mayor's Cup Race to > see the tall ships racing. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/sets/72157624770005967/detail/ > Beautiful ships and a great gallery. I especially like the 1st, 5th, 16th and 21st (I hope I've got those right - I couldn't see any easy way to identify specific images). Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/quotes.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Test
> mike wilson wrote: > I believe there's a setting at pdml.net on your personal (logged on) > page that allows you to choose whether to see your own posts or not. > Log in via the bottommost box on the page. Thanks Mike, as long as I know they are getting through, I'll live without receiving my own posts. Nice to know it can be arranged to get them though. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs: More B/W Experimentation (Not Pentax)
On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 18:10 -0500, "Walter Gilbert" wrote: > Having tinkered with the photo of the bridge and salvaged it through > B/W conversion, I figured I'd try my hand at a couple of older images I > wasn't crazy about, but couldn't bring myself to delete. > > The first is a late 70's model Lincoln Continental I shot with my first > DSLR (Olympus E-20n): > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/4969321742/#/photos/walt_gilbert/4969321742/lightbox/ > > The second is a 52' Dodge pickup I shot with a friend's Canon Digital > Rebel (300D): > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/4969321742/#/photos/walt_gilbert/496870/lightbox/ > > All input not concerning my ancestry welcome -- particularly tips on > shooting for B/W. I don't think these have worked as well as the bridge. I quite like the Dodge - has an appealing grungy look - but the rear of the Lincoln gets lost in the background. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - IMAP accessible web-mail -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
2010/9/9 Brian Walters : > > I wonder how effective the 12800 ISO will be? The Liberman theorem will tell =) Cheers Ecke - Cameras don’t shoot people. Photographers shoot people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
2010/9/9 P. J. Alling : > > OK looked at the video, kind of silly but I like the battery options. Agreed. Kind of puts it very nicely =) Cheers Ecke - Cameras don’t shoot people. Photographers shoot people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
2010/9/9 John Celio : > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaD3E2FtkJo > Sounds like a decent little camera. 6 fps. Nice. I guess that makes at least 8 for the K-5. If they're serious about that they must have shown the AF some love. This is great. Cheers Ecke - Cameras don’t shoot people. Photographers shoot people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
I don't remember anybody predicting 6fps for the K-r! That makes me optimistic that the K-5 will offer a noticeable framw rate improvement over the K-7; it would be a little embarassing if a contemporary lower-spec body outperformed the high-end model. That also leads me to believe that we will see wireless image transfer on the K-5 as well. On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 08:28:00AM +0300, Boris Liberman wrote: > It seems the rumors were mostly spot on. > > On 9/9/2010 7:10 AM, John Celio wrote: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaD3E2FtkJo >> >> Sounds like a decent little camera. >> >> John >> >> -- >> http://www.jacelio.com >> http://www.cafepress.com/jacelio >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Storm rollin' through
On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 12:34 -0500, "Charles Robinson" wrote: > Got caught by a shower when I was out biking a few days ago, but it > passed on by and I didn't melt. As it worked its way off to the East I > was treated to a nice view, though: > > http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/imgp4492.jpg > > I'm sure there's a lot technically deficient about this photo, but I > still like it. > So do I. An impressive sky and having the 'cityscape' at the bottom gives context. The image would be less successful without it. And may I respectfully disagree with Dan. If the photographer feels there are problems with an image, I'm happy for them to be mentioned. It gives me something else to consider in my comments. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - IMAP accessible web-mail -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Also official - DA L 35mm f2.4
John Celio wrote: May I be the first to say: I will be avoiding the just-announced DA L 35mm f2.4. Plastic construction aside, the SR feature of Pentax SLRs does not mean a (relatively) slow normal lens is a good thing to offer if you want to attract new users. :P http://www.pentaximaging.com/camera-lenses/smc_PENTAX_DA_L_35mm_F2.4_AL/ BTW, it is not marked L (even if its platic mount would suggest that). See the picture and Euro press releases. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
Wireless image transfer based on IR Haven't the camera industry noticed that IR is out and bluetooth is in? How many mobile phones and laptops today have any IR port at all? Sorry, but image transfer based on IR is not something I think will "take off" :-) Stig Vidar Hovland Fra: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] på vegne av John Francis [jo...@panix.com] Sendt: 9. september 2010 09:40 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: K-r is official (video) That also leads me to believe that we will see wireless image transfer on the K-5 as well. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
2010/9/9 SV Hovland : > > Wireless image transfer based on IR Haven't the camera industry noticed > that IR is out and bluetooth is in? How many mobile phones and laptops today > have any IR port at all? Sorry, but image transfer based on IR is not > something I think will "take off" :-) I think WiFi is more like it. I remember seeing WiFi cards in an SD form factor immediately sending all images to your PC. Cheers Ecke - Cameras don’t shoot people. Photographers shoot people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Test
On Sep 7, 2010, at 13:44 , Ken Waller wrote: ?> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 7:21 AM, eckinator wrote: I can say you can send but can you receive? Tis better to send than receive. Yes but it remains a truly American question nonetheless: Oh say, can you see? No, No, No. It's Jose can you see.. No es Jose, es José, tonto! Joseph McAllister Lots of gear, not much time http://gallery.me.com/jomac -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Test
2010/9/9 Joseph McAllister : > > No es Jose, es José, tonto! José MuckChhhallister? Cheers Ecke - Cameras don’t shoot people. Photographers shoot people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Test
On Sep 9, 2010, at 01:42 , eckinator wrote: 2010/9/9 Joseph McAllister : No es Jose, es José, tonto! José MuckChhhallister? José el gran guerrero escocés que estudió español durante años con la señora Oñate en Cambridge, Massachusetts mientras asistía a la Escuela Preparatoria de Nueva. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “José the great Scottish Warrior who studied spanish for years with Señora Onaté in Cambridge, Massachussetts while attending New Preparatory School.” -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Test
so I'll be calling you "el corazon valiente" from now on? c'mon show us yer blue stripes =) 2010/9/9 Joseph McAllister : > On Sep 9, 2010, at 01:42 , eckinator wrote: > >> 2010/9/9 Joseph McAllister : >>> >>> No es Jose, es José, tonto! >> >> José MuckChhhallister? > > José el gran guerrero escocés que estudió español durante años con la señora > Oñate en Cambridge, Massachusetts mientras asistía a la Escuela Preparatoria > de Nueva. > > > > Joseph McAllister > pentax...@mac.com > > “José the great Scottish Warrior who studied spanish for years with Señora > Onaté in Cambridge, Massachussetts while attending New Preparatory School.” > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Cheers Ecke - Cameras don’t shoot people. Photographers shoot people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
Color simulator: http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-r/simulator.php#110513 Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Limited Edition Motorcycle Mama Barbie
Be the first on your block to own the latest Limited Edition Barbie: Motorcycle Mama Barbie. Comes complete with low-cut tight top and come-hither look. BMW R1200 GS included. Only $23,496.00 US: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/09/limited-edition-motorcycle-mama-barbie.html ;-) Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Limited Edition Motorcycle Mama Barbie
I want one. Plus she has the bike's asymetric eyes - very neat =) Thanks for sharing Ecke 2010/9/9 frank theriault : > Be the first on your block to own the latest Limited Edition Barbie: > Motorcycle Mama Barbie. Comes complete with low-cut tight top and > come-hither look. BMW R1200 GS included. Only $23,496.00 US: > > http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/09/limited-edition-motorcycle-mama-barbie.html > > ;-) > > Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Cheers Ecke - Cameras don’t shoot people. Photographers shoot people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Limited Edition Motorcycle Mama Barbie
Oh, and I know what you're thinking... no talk about headlights, please! This is a clean list... 2010/9/9 eckinator : > I want one. Plus she has the bike's asymetric eyes - very neat =) > Thanks for sharing > Ecke > > 2010/9/9 frank theriault : >> Be the first on your block to own the latest Limited Edition Barbie: >> Motorcycle Mama Barbie. Comes complete with low-cut tight top and >> come-hither look. BMW R1200 GS included. Only $23,496.00 US: >> >> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/09/limited-edition-motorcycle-mama-barbie.html >> >> ;-) >> >> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. >> >> cheers, >> frank >> >> -- >> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > > > -- > Cheers > Ecke > > - > Cameras don’t shoot people. > Photographers shoot people. > -- Cheers Ecke - Cameras don’t shoot people. Photographers shoot people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
How do the specs compare to the Kx? Is it a replacement? Paul And where's my K5!! :-) On Sep 9, 2010, at 12:42 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > The styling cues are in the same vein as the K-7. It has the squared off > look of an LX, for what that's worth. > > On 9/9/2010 12:10 AM, John Celio wrote: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaD3E2FtkJo >> >> Sounds like a decent little camera. >> >> John >> >> -- >> http://www.jacelio.com >> http://www.cafepress.com/jacelio >> > > > -- > "His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed > moral bankruptcy." > -Woody Allen > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
2010/9/9 paul stenquist : > > How do the specs compare to the Kx? Is it a replacement? on dpreview a guy claiming to be from Pentax Italy claims it will be side by side. > And where's my K5!! :-) Still hanging out with the K-9 and the K-Y waiting for its time to come - second half of Spetember according to Italian buddy. I'll post the link if I can find it again. Cheers Ecke - Cameras don’t shoot people. Photographers shoot people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs: More B/W Experimentation (Not Pentax)
I have to say I agree with you, Brian. Particularly on the back-end of the Lincoln. Oddly enough, I had a 4x6 print of it made yesterday to give to the owner, who'd been pestering me about it ever since I took the picture, nearly a year ago. He just happened to be at the local club last night where I tend bar part-time, and just loved the shot. So, I figure if he doesn't know any better, I won't tell him. ;-) Thanks again for the input. -- Walt On 9/9/2010 2:32 AM, Brian Walters wrote: I don't think these have worked as well as the bridge. I quite like the Dodge - has an appealing grungy look - but the rear of the Lincoln gets lost in the background. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=35962286&page=1 2010/9/9 eckinator : > 2010/9/9 paul stenquist : >> >> How do the specs compare to the Kx? Is it a replacement? > > on dpreview a guy claiming to be from Pentax Italy claims it will be > side by side. > >> And where's my K5!! :-) > > Still hanging out with the K-9 and the K-Y waiting for its time to > come - second half of Spetember according to Italian buddy. > > I'll post the link if I can find it again. > > Cheers > Ecke > > - > Cameras don’t shoot people. > Photographers shoot people. > -- Cheers Ecke - Cameras don’t shoot people. Photographers shoot people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
Well, now ... this is infuriating. I've got less than 4,000 shutter actuations on my K-x and they're already enticing me with faster focusing, 6 fps, and AF points (which I was pretty "meh" about, until now) on the K-r. Maybe I'll just hold off save up for the K-5 and keep the K-x as backup. On 9/8/2010 11:10 PM, John Celio wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaD3E2FtkJo Sounds like a decent little camera. John -- http://www.jacelio.com http://www.cafepress.com/jacelio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
On 2010-09-09 8:02, Walter Gilbert wrote: Well, now ... this is infuriating. I've got less than 4,000 shutter actuations on my K-x and they're already enticing me with faster focusing, 6 fps, and AF points (which I was pretty "meh" about, until now) on the K-r. Maybe I'll just hold off save up for the K-5 and keep the K-x as backup. Now that the bodies have gone digital, for the next few years we're on the same treadmill that the personal computer industry was on for the first few years: as soon as you actually buy something, it's "obsoleted" by a new product introduction. This will continue until the technology matures a bit. So, like with computers then, you just have to pick a good price-capability point, drive a stake in the sand, and quit looking at the new product introductions for a while. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
2010/9/9 Doug Franklin : > > Now that the bodies have gone digital, for the next few years we're on the > same treadmill that the personal computer industry was on for the first few > years: as soon as you actually buy something, it's "obsoleted" by a new > product introduction. This will continue until the technology matures a bit. > So, like with computers then, you just have to pick a good price-capability > point, drive a stake in the sand, and quit looking at the new product > introductions for a while. :-) I think it is maturing; the megapixel race is slowing down - Canon was even so smart to reduce MP on the G11 in favor of IQ - and improvements shift towards more interesting things like high ISO, low noise, sealing, geotagging etc. that it actually has me thinking there is no point in waiting for another model before I replace my K10D. I am pretty sure I will do so once the K-r or K-5 - whichever I will ultimately choose - has had its first huge price drop. Cheers Ecke - Cameras don’t shoot people. Photographers shoot people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
"...has had its first huge price drop." And this is one of the reasons why Pentax struggles financially. On 9 September 2010 20:58, eckinator wrote: > 2010/9/9 Doug Franklin : >> >> Now that the bodies have gone digital, for the next few years we're on the >> same treadmill that the personal computer industry was on for the first few >> years: as soon as you actually buy something, it's "obsoleted" by a new >> product introduction. This will continue until the technology matures a bit. >> So, like with computers then, you just have to pick a good price-capability >> point, drive a stake in the sand, and quit looking at the new product >> introductions for a while. :-) > > I think it is maturing; the megapixel race is slowing down - Canon was > even so smart to reduce MP on the G11 in favor of IQ - and > improvements shift towards more interesting things like high ISO, low > noise, sealing, geotagging etc. that it actually has me thinking there > is no point in waiting for another model before I replace my K10D. I > am pretty sure I will do so once the K-r or K-5 - whichever I will > ultimately choose - has had its first huge price drop. > > Cheers > Ecke > > - > Cameras don’t shoot people. > Photographers shoot people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
2010/9/9 David Savage : > > "...has had its first huge price drop." > > And this is one of the reasons why Pentax struggles financially. Well I have to in order to be able to buy their lenses, flashes, battery grips, focus screens, sensor cleaners and refconverters etc... and I bet they make more money from an ICK-1 than from any other item in their line-up... besides I have to do what I can afford and not what makes Hoya happy... Cheers Ecke - Cameras don’t shoot people. Photographers shoot people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
Of course, you're exactly right. But, I'm a weak man. Ask any woman who knows me. -- Walt On 9/9/2010 7:50 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: Now that the bodies have gone digital, for the next few years we're on the same treadmill that the personal computer industry was on for the first few years: as soon as you actually buy something, it's "obsoleted" by a new product introduction. This will continue until the technology matures a bit. So, like with computers then, you just have to pick a good price-capability point, drive a stake in the sand, and quit looking at the new product introductions for a while. :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
WOW! COLORS! Dan On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 12:10 AM, John Celio wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaD3E2FtkJo > > Sounds like a decent little camera. > > John > > -- > http://www.jacelio.com > http://www.cafepress.com/jacelio > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Also official - DA L 35mm f2.4
I'm profoundly ambivalent on the new 35. The competition has amanged to produce equivalents which are both faster (f1.8) and cheaper ($200 MSRP) and while the new 35 is smaller than the Nikon or Sony versions, it's not significantly so. I was expecting a much smaller lens when I heard the f2.4 spec. Time for me to start hunting an FA35 I think. -Adam On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 2:19 AM, John Celio wrote: > May I be the first to say: I will be avoiding the just-announced DA L 35mm > f2.4. Plastic construction aside, the SR feature of Pentax SLRs does not > mean a (relatively) slow normal lens is a good thing to offer if you want to > attract new users. :P > > http://www.pentaximaging.com/camera-lenses/smc_PENTAX_DA_L_35mm_F2.4_AL/ > > John > -- > http://www.jacelio.com > http://www.cafepress.com/jacelio > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
The phrase "You can't polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter" comes to mind. :-) DS On 9 September 2010 21:07, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > WOW! COLORS! > > Dan > > On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 12:10 AM, John Celio wrote: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaD3E2FtkJo >> >> Sounds like a decent little camera. >> >> John >> >> -- >> http://www.jacelio.com >> http://www.cafepress.com/jacelio >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
K-x with an extra stop of ISO, 1.3 extra fps, a deeper buffer, better LCD, LiIon battery and unspecified AF changes (Only known difference is a different point layout). Biggest disappointment is no wired release and no upgrade to the metering (K-x's real weakpoint is the old 16-segment meter). It comes in over the K-x in the line and the K-x will stay for now. -Adam On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 7:34 AM, paul stenquist wrote: > How do the specs compare to the Kx? Is it a replacement? > Paul > > And where's my K5!! :-) > > > On Sep 9, 2010, at 12:42 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > >> The styling cues are in the same vein as the K-7. It has the squared off >> look of an LX, for what that's worth. >> >> On 9/9/2010 12:10 AM, John Celio wrote: >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaD3E2FtkJo >>> >>> Sounds like a decent little camera. >>> >>> John >>> >>> -- >>> http://www.jacelio.com >>> http://www.cafepress.com/jacelio >>> >> >> >> -- >> "His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed >> moral bankruptcy." >> -Woody Allen >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Storm rollin' through
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 3:42 AM, Brian Walters wrote: > On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 12:34 -0500, "Charles Robinson" > wrote: > And may I respectfully disagree with Dan. If the photographer feels > there is a specific and obvious problem with an image, I'm happy for them to > be mentioned. > It gives me something else to consider in my comments. I don't disagree with you if the photographer is aware of an obvious and specific problem. Why have two or three people point that out instead of commenting on the other aspects of the image? In this case, however, and in two or three other recent posts, there was no obvious (or even hidden) flaw; Charles was just being overly modest. I think that can have an effect on what we expect to see, and may unjustly color what others think and say about the image. I think a poster will get better and more unbiased comments without a generalized statement about possible flaws in the photo. Remember, one man's flaw is another man's enhancement. Dan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Bridge Over Troubled Water
Yes indeed, the arch was accessible on foot. My wife took images of me standing in the middle of the arch, and also wading in the water beneath it. She refused to climb out on top of the arch to pose for me, however, as she dislikes heights. Dan On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 2:54 AM, Brian Walters wrote: > On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 09:53 -0400, "Daniel J. Matyola" > wrote: >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11550850 >> >> The bridge in this image has since collapsed. >> >> Comments, Suggestions, Criticisms and Abuse all Welcome. >> > > > > Out of curiosity, was the arch accessible by people before it collapsed? > > We have a similar arch along the southern coast line, part of which > collapsed a few years ago leaving several people stranded. They had to > be rescued by helicopter. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Arch > > > > > Cheers > > Brian > > ++ > Brian Walters > Western Sydney Australia > http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ > > -- > > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - mmm... Fastmail... > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
On Sep 9, 2010, at 7:36 AM, eckinator wrote: 2010/9/9 paul stenquist : How do the specs compare to the Kx? Is it a replacement? on dpreview a guy claiming to be from Pentax Italy claims it will be side by side. And where's my K5!! :-) Still hanging out with the K-9 and the K-Y waiting for its time to come - second half of Spetember according to Italian buddy. The K-Y is a combination phone and sex toy? I'll post the link if I can find it again. Cheers Ecke - Cameras don’t shoot people. Photographers shoot people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Quake update
Sound advice Cotty. It never hurts to be classy and not rash. Work your way thru it and look for options. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 1:55 AM, Cotty wrote: > On 9/9/10, David Mann, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>The boss sent out an email this morning saying they were giving us 2 >>extra days of annual leave. I'm not really sure how I feel about that. >>I'm still displeased about the apparent desperation to get us all back >>to work. The city council gave their staff the entire week off, and >>they didn't do that retrospectively. Something like that does let >>people get out and support their community which is what we really need >>at a time like this. > > If I were you I'd go with the flow for now, do nothing rash. But > consider your longer term options. Once someone shows their true > colours, you know where you stand - and so vote with your feet. > Personally, I wouldn't want to work for someone like this and would make > plans to look elsewhere. > > Not much comfort now though - concentrate on regaining sleep! > > -- > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__ > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > -- http://www.cottysnaps.com > _ > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
On 9 September 2010 21:38, P N Stenquist wrote: > > On Sep 9, 2010, at 7:36 AM, eckinator wrote: > >> 2010/9/9 paul stenquist : >>> >>> How do the specs compare to the Kx? Is it a replacement? >> >> on dpreview a guy claiming to be from Pentax Italy claims it will be >> side by side. >> >>> And where's my K5!! :-) >> >> Still hanging out with the K-9 and the K-Y waiting for its time to >> come - second half of Spetember according to Italian buddy. >> > The K-Y is a combination phone and sex toy? It's waterproof too. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
On Sep 9, 2010, at 8:02 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Well, now ... this is infuriating. I've got less than 4,000 shutter actuations on my K-x and they're already enticing me with faster focusing, 6 fps, and AF points (which I was pretty "meh" about, until now) on the K-r. That's the way it works in the world of digital cameras. No point in getting worked up, because it will happen every time you buy a camera. Paul Maybe I'll just hold off save up for the K-5 and keep the K-x as backup. On 9/8/2010 11:10 PM, John Celio wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaD3E2FtkJo Sounds like a decent little camera. John -- http://www.jacelio.com http://www.cafepress.com/jacelio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
SAFOX IX is also in the 645D On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 1:00 AM, SV Hovland wrote: > Wonder what SAFOX IX brings.. > > Stig Vidar Hovland > > > Fra: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] på vegne av P. J. > Alling > > The styling cues are in the same vein as the K-7. It has the squared > off look of an LX, for what that's worth. > > On 9/9/2010 12:10 AM, John Celio wrote: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaD3E2FtkJo >> >> Sounds like a decent little camera. >> >> John > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
Oh, my eyes! There are color combinations there that would get you slapped at Disneyworld. On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 6:15 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: > Color simulator: > http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-r/simulator.php#110513 > > Dario > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
You're number 1 Dave. :-) On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 8:15 AM, David Savage wrote: > The phrase "You can't polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter" > comes to mind. > > :-) > > DS > > On 9 September 2010 21:07, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >> WOW! COLORS! >> >> Dan >> >> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 12:10 AM, John Celio wrote: >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaD3E2FtkJo >>> >>> Sounds like a decent little camera. >>> >>> John >>> >>> -- >>> http://www.jacelio.com >>> http://www.cafepress.com/jacelio >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
Actually, the Mythbusters did polish a turd using some Japanese technique for making shiny dirt balls. I'm sure Youtube can show you. On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 9:15 AM, David Savage wrote: > The phrase "You can't polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter" > comes to mind. > > :-) > > DS > > On 9 September 2010 21:07, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >> WOW! COLORS! >> >> Dan >> >> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 12:10 AM, John Celio wrote: >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaD3E2FtkJo >>> >>> Sounds like a decent little camera. >>> >>> John >>> >>> -- >>> http://www.jacelio.com >>> http://www.cafepress.com/jacelio >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
You're right, of course. And, the truth is, I should really be focused on bankrupting myself over lenses, anyway. -- Walt On 9/9/2010 8:39 AM, P N Stenquist wrote: That's the way it works in the world of digital cameras. No point in getting worked up, because it will happen every time you buy a camera. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Also official - DA L 35mm f2.4
The description on the Pentax home page is about as close to a shrug as corporate-speak ever gets. On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Adam Maas wrote: > I'm profoundly ambivalent on the new 35. The competition has amanged > to produce equivalents which are both faster (f1.8) and cheaper ($200 > MSRP) and while the new 35 is smaller than the Nikon or Sony versions, > it's not significantly so. I was expecting a much smaller lens when I > heard the f2.4 spec. > > Time for me to start hunting an FA35 I think. > > -Adam > > On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 2:19 AM, John Celio wrote: >> May I be the first to say: I will be avoiding the just-announced DA L 35mm >> f2.4. Plastic construction aside, the SR feature of Pentax SLRs does not >> mean a (relatively) slow normal lens is a good thing to offer if you want to >> attract new users. :P >> >> http://www.pentaximaging.com/camera-lenses/smc_PENTAX_DA_L_35mm_F2.4_AL/ >> >> John >> -- >> http://www.jacelio.com >> http://www.cafepress.com/jacelio >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > > > -- > M. Adam Maas > http://www.mawz.ca > Explorations of the City Around Us. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
K-r is the most unsexy name ever. Sounds like a camera designed for pirates. K-Ar, matey. If you want a sexy letters go with K-z. Meanwhile the fullframe replacements to the K-x will obviously be named K-xl and K-xxl. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
I kinda made this decision. The K-7 will last because I need to buy lenses not bodies. This is a body better than any film camera I ever owned with at least as much capability. I also never shot iso 3200 with color film too often. I figure I'll give in when they release the K-pi with iso 16 million and clairvoyant AF. On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: > You're right, of course. And, the truth is, I should really be focused on > bankrupting myself over lenses, anyway. > > -- Walt > > On 9/9/2010 8:39 AM, P N Stenquist wrote: >> >> That's the way it works in the world of digital cameras. No point in >> getting worked up, because it will happen every time you buy a camera. >> Paul > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Limited Edition Motorcycle Mama Barbie
Too Late: http://www.amazon.com/Barbie-Harley-Davidson/dp/B56VNP/ref=pd_sim_t_3 On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 7:33 AM, eckinator wrote: > Oh, and I know what you're thinking... no talk about headlights, > please! This is a clean list... > > 2010/9/9 eckinator : >> I want one. Plus she has the bike's asymetric eyes - very neat =) >> Thanks for sharing >> Ecke >> >> 2010/9/9 frank theriault : >>> Be the first on your block to own the latest Limited Edition Barbie: >>> Motorcycle Mama Barbie. Comes complete with low-cut tight top and >>> come-hither look. BMW R1200 GS included. Only $23,496.00 US: >>> >>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/09/limited-edition-motorcycle-mama-barbie.html >>> >>> ;-) >>> >>> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. >>> >>> cheers, >>> frank >>> >>> -- >>> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Cheers >> Ecke >> >> - >> Cameras don’t shoot people. >> Photographers shoot people. >> > > > > -- > Cheers > Ecke > > - > Cameras don’t shoot people. > Photographers shoot people. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Quake update
Remember, Dave, this will make a great story someday. Like most great stories, it will much better in retrospect. On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 5:05 PM, David Mann wrote: > Good news, the water has been declared safe to drink. This is a big load off > my mind and makes life quite a lot easier. > > I nearly had a breakdown yesterday after an aftershock came through while I > was trying to work. The tremors themselves aren't so much of a problem but > it's being exacerbated by the lack of sleep. I know the building can > withstand them easily. The initial jolt of each tremor is quite strong due > to its proximity and it gives you a bit of a fright, and these really add up > when you're tired and it really starts to get frustrating. There's usually a > deep rumble just before they arrive but you don't know how big it's going to > be. > > The papers are reporting that a number of people have left the city to get a > break from them. One person sent her kids up to Wellington to stay with > their grandparents. > > My boss's attitude has not helped matters, expecting us to work from home and > "we'd appreciate it if you could give 100% effort" (translation: we expect > 100%). We haven't been to visit any family members yet. > > Of the three "productive" staff members in our company, one took yesterday > off and the other lasted until mid-morning (he's also worried about flooding > due to high river levels in his area). I ended up taking a couple of hours > time-out after that aftershock, grabbed a camera and took some photos in the > garden to try and calm down. I might post a peso later but I won't be able > to do much processing as my Photoshop machine had to be taken down for my > work machine. > > I'm doing my best to take a relaxed approach to work, normally we're pushed > fairly hard but I'm using my isolation to ignore it and look after myself. > If the boss whinges he'll get an earful. I'd be far better able to cope if I > was out doing something to help others but I'm having to sit inside at a desk > all day, with no human contact. > > My partner Janet is handling things a lot better than I am, she's sleeping > quite well and she's been at work all week. But she's able to go to the > office and she tends to be out and about quite a lot. Without her around I'd > have gone crazy. > > After yesterday's troubles I actually managed quite a good night's sleep. I > helped things along by sipping a shot of Galliano during the evening. Woke > up at some point and struggled to get back to sleep but I'm feeling fresher > now than I have since last Thursday. I'll see what other medicine I can find > tonight, maybe some neat bourbon or scotch :) > > The central city is still cordoned but I'll go in there tomorrow anyway and > see what I can find outside the limits. Still a little bit worried about my > bike which is still at work. For all I know it could have been damaged or > looted. > > An expert on the radio this morning tells us the aftershocks won't > necessarily decrease in magnitude, only frequency. He says we can still get > a magnitude 6 sometime in the next few weeks (thanks mate, ignorance is > bliss!). > > Cheers, > Dave > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
New Pentax
De-Lurking momentarily... So What is up with the New Pentax K-R? No one seems to have them in stock. Re-Lurking. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax
As I recall, some say the K-r will be available sometime in Oct. Jack --- On Thu, 9/9/10, Morris Galloway wrote: > From: Morris Galloway > Subject: New Pentax > To: pdml@pdml.net > Date: Thursday, September 9, 2010, 8:07 AM > De-Lurking momentarily... > > So What is up with the New Pentax K-R? No one seems > to have them in stock. > > Re-Lurking. > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax
Product announcement, not a product release. It's the Pentax way. DS On 9 September 2010 23:07, Morris Galloway wrote: > De-Lurking momentarily... > > So What is up with the New Pentax K-R? No one seems to have them in stock. > > Re-Lurking. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
Americans can only have it in three colors (with black rubber. Heck I'd expect at least a whitewall option). The new 35mm, (normal), is also available in colors. Anyone else notice that it's not a pancake and as well as not being particularly fast? I don't see it cutting into the aftermarket for the "fast" FA and A 35mm lenses. On 9/9/2010 6:15 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: Color simulator: http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-r/simulator.php#110513 Dario -- "His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy." -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Also official - DA L 35mm f2.4
On 9/9/2010 2:19 AM, John Celio wrote: May I be the first to say: I will be avoiding the just-announced DA L 35mm f2.4. Plastic construction aside, the SR feature of Pentax SLRs does not mean a (relatively) slow normal lens is a good thing to offer if you want to attract new users. :P http://www.pentaximaging.com/camera-lenses/smc_PENTAX_DA_L_35mm_F2.4_AL/ John -- http://www.jacelio.com http://www.cafepress.com/jacelio Ok so somebody has noticed, (see my post last post to the K-r video thread if you care. I don't want to repeat myself. -- "His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy." -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
On 9/9/2010 9:38 AM, P N Stenquist wrote: On Sep 9, 2010, at 7:36 AM, eckinator wrote: 2010/9/9 paul stenquist : How do the specs compare to the Kx? Is it a replacement? on dpreview a guy claiming to be from Pentax Italy claims it will be side by side. And where's my K5!! :-) Still hanging out with the K-9 and the K-Y waiting for its time to come - second half of Spetember according to Italian buddy. The K-Y is a combination phone and sex toy? That takes pictures, (think endoscopy)... I'll post the link if I can find it again. Cheers Ecke - Cameras don’t shoot people. Photographers shoot people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- "His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy." -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Quake update
Steven Desjardins wrote: Remember, Dave, this will make a great story someday. Like most great stories, it will much better in retrospect. It already is a great story... Dave - I hope your excellent personal reportage and photography are helping you vent and giving you some comfort. Good thing to have someone close to you with you, too. I hope your boss doesn't google you, though ( or maybe ) Seriously, it is a terribly rough thing to go through - thanks for keeping us all posted in the midst of it Warm Regards, ann On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 5:05 PM, David Mann wrote: Good news, the water has been declared safe to drink. This is a big load off my mind and makes life quite a lot easier. I nearly had a breakdown yesterday after an aftershock came through while I was trying to work. The tremors themselves aren't so much of a problem but it's being exacerbated by the lack of sleep. I know the building can withstand them easily. The initial jolt of each tremor is quite strong due to its proximity and it gives you a bit of a fright, and these really add up when you're tired and it really starts to get frustrating. There's usually a deep rumble just before they arrive but you don't know how big it's going to be. The papers are reporting that a number of people have left the city to get a break from them. One person sent her kids up to Wellington to stay with their grandparents. My boss's attitude has not helped matters, expecting us to work from home and "we'd appreciate it if you could give 100% effort" (translation: we expect 100%). We haven't been to visit any family members yet. Of the three "productive" staff members in our company, one took yesterday off and the other lasted until mid-morning (he's also worried about flooding due to high river levels in his area). I ended up taking a couple of hours time-out after that aftershock, grabbed a camera and took some photos in the garden to try and calm down. I might post a peso later but I won't be able to do much processing as my Photoshop machine had to be taken down for my work machine. I'm doing my best to take a relaxed approach to work, normally we're pushed fairly hard but I'm using my isolation to ignore it and look after myself. If the boss whinges he'll get an earful. I'd be far better able to cope if I was out doing something to help others but I'm having to sit inside at a desk all day, with no human contact. My partner Janet is handling things a lot better than I am, she's sleeping quite well and she's been at work all week. But she's able to go to the office and she tends to be out and about quite a lot. Without her around I'd have gone crazy. After yesterday's troubles I actually managed quite a good night's sleep. I helped things along by sipping a shot of Galliano during the evening. Woke up at some point and struggled to get back to sleep but I'm feeling fresher now than I have since last Thursday. I'll see what other medicine I can find tonight, maybe some neat bourbon or scotch :) The central city is still cordoned but I'll go in there tomorrow anyway and see what I can find outside the limits. Still a little bit worried about my bike which is still at work. For all I know it could have been damaged or looted. An expert on the radio this morning tells us the aftershocks won't necessarily decrease in magnitude, only frequency. He says we can still get a magnitude 6 sometime in the next few weeks (thanks mate, ignorance is bliss!). Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
On 9/9/2010 8:50 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: On 2010-09-09 8:02, Walter Gilbert wrote: Well, now ... this is infuriating. I've got less than 4,000 shutter actuations on my K-x and they're already enticing me with faster focusing, 6 fps, and AF points (which I was pretty "meh" about, until now) on the K-r. Maybe I'll just hold off save up for the K-5 and keep the K-x as backup. Now that the bodies have gone digital, for the next few years we're on the same treadmill that the personal computer industry was on for the first few years: as soon as you actually buy something, it's "obsoleted" by a new product introduction. This will continue until the technology matures a bit. So, like with computers then, you just have to pick a good price-capability point, drive a stake in the sand, and quit looking at the new product introductions for a while. :-) The good part is that once the new product is available the old is deeply discounted. I've paid about $600 for both the *ist-D and the K20D. I expect that I'll pay no more for the K-5 when I finally buy one, about a year from now. Unless it has some "must have feature", (Since I still use a lot of manual focus K mounts I expect that's not likely). -- "His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy." -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
Look on the bright side. You'll be all set for Talk like a pirate day. On 9/9/2010 9:56 AM, CheekyGeek wrote: K-r is the most unsexy name ever. Sounds like a camera designed for pirates. K-Ar, matey. If you want a sexy letters go with K-z. Meanwhile the fullframe replacements to the K-x will obviously be named K-xl and K-xxl. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- "His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy." -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
This combo particularly says teenage girl, (japanese), to me,,, http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-r/simulator.php#040707 On 9/9/2010 9:07 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: WOW! COLORS! Dan On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 12:10 AM, John Celio wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaD3E2FtkJo Sounds like a decent little camera. John -- http://www.jacelio.com http://www.cafepress.com/jacelio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- "His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy." -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
Sure you can, just don't expect it to shine. On 9/9/2010 9:15 AM, David Savage wrote: The phrase "You can't polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter" comes to mind. :-) DS On 9 September 2010 21:07, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: WOW! COLORS! Dan On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 12:10 AM, John Celio wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaD3E2FtkJo Sounds like a decent little camera. John -- http://www.jacelio.com http://www.cafepress.com/jacelio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- "His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy." -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
Frank, your turn for a glittery turd barbie shot... hello kitty must be spinning in her litterbox... father karras to the rescue... rgh 2010/9/9 P. J. Alling : > This combo particularly says teenage girl, (japanese), to me,,, > > http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-r/simulator.php#040707 > > On 9/9/2010 9:07 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >> >> WOW! COLORS! >> >> Dan >> >> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 12:10 AM, John Celio wrote: >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaD3E2FtkJo >>> >>> Sounds like a decent little camera. >>> >>> John >>> >>> -- >>> http://www.jacelio.com >>> http://www.cafepress.com/jacelio >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> > > > -- > "His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed > moral bankruptcy." > -Woody Allen > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Cheers Ecke - Cameras don’t shoot people. Photographers shoot people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Also official - DA L 35mm f2.4
On 9 September 2010 09:14, Adam Maas wrote: > I'm profoundly ambivalent on the new 35. The competition has amanged > to produce equivalents which are both faster (f1.8) and cheaper ($200 > MSRP) and while the new 35 is smaller than the Nikon or Sony versions, > it's not significantly so. I was expecting a much smaller lens when I > heard the f2.4 spec. > > Time for me to start hunting an FA35 I think. > > -Adam I am not ambivalent, I'm insulted. And the marketing blurb says "fast f/2.4 aperture". That's like a car dealer trying to sell you "a fast 20mph sportscar". Do they think we're idiots? My thoughts here: http://enticingthelight.com/2010/09/09/pentax-finally-announce-new-equipment/ --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Limited Edition Motorcycle Mama Barbie
There's something seriously wrong with that woman frank... On 9/9/2010 6:57 AM, frank theriault wrote: Be the first on your block to own the latest Limited Edition Barbie: Motorcycle Mama Barbie. Comes complete with low-cut tight top and come-hither look. BMW R1200 GS included. Only $23,496.00 US: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/09/limited-edition-motorcycle-mama-barbie.html ;-) Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- "His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy." -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Limited Edition Motorcycle Mama Barbie
She has no nipples On 9/9/2010 7:33 AM, eckinator wrote: Oh, and I know what you're thinking... no talk about headlights, please! This is a clean list... 2010/9/9 eckinator: I want one. Plus she has the bike's asymetric eyes - very neat =) Thanks for sharing Ecke 2010/9/9 frank theriault: Be the first on your block to own the latest Limited Edition Barbie: Motorcycle Mama Barbie. Comes complete with low-cut tight top and come-hither look. BMW R1200 GS included. Only $23,496.00 US: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/09/limited-edition-motorcycle-mama-barbie.html ;-) Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Cheers Ecke - Cameras don’t shoot people. Photographers shoot people. -- "His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy." -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Also official - DA L 35mm f2.4
On 9/9/2010 11:43 AM, Miserere wrote: On 9 September 2010 09:14, Adam Maas wrote: I'm profoundly ambivalent on the new 35. The competition has amanged to produce equivalents which are both faster (f1.8) and cheaper ($200 MSRP) and while the new 35 is smaller than the Nikon or Sony versions, it's not significantly so. I was expecting a much smaller lens when I heard the f2.4 spec. Time for me to start hunting an FA35 I think. -Adam I am not ambivalent, I'm insulted. And the marketing blurb says "fast f/2.4 aperture". That's like a car dealer trying to sell you "a fast 20mph sportscar". Do they think we're idiots? My thoughts here: http://enticingthelight.com/2010/09/09/pentax-finally-announce-new-equipment/ --M. The f2.4 aperture isn't so strange, if you go back to the earlier days of Pentax lenses. There was, an Auto Takumar 35mm f2.4, at one point. I wonder if they've just dusted off the old optical formula and put it in a plastic body... Naa, they wouldn't it would have to be a new design. -- "His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy." -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Storm rollin' through
On Sep 8, 2010, at 10:34 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: > Got caught by a shower when I was out biking a few days ago, but it passed on > by and I didn't melt. As it worked its way off to the East I was treated to > a nice view, though: > > http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/imgp4492.jpg > > I'm sure there's a lot technically deficient about this photo, but I still > like it. I sure as hell do too. Very nice. > > -Charles > > -- > Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com > Minneapolis, MN > http://charles.robinsontwins.org > http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Limited Edition Motorcycle Mama Barbie
Reminds me of my favorite "Death Wish" joke. Tell this one at the next Biker Bar you visit and you'll see what I mean. Q: What's the difference between a Harley and a Hoover? A: You can only put ONE dirtbag on a Hoover. (May only be funny in parts of the world where the name "Hoover" is synonymous with vacuum cleaners.) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
Kr in Norwegian is short for kroner, or translated to $, so I hope they will make some money on it .-) DagT http://www.thrane.name Den 9. sep. 2010 kl. 15.56 skrev CheekyGeek: > K-r is the most unsexy name ever. Sounds like a camera designed for pirates. > K-Ar, matey. > > If you want a sexy letters go with K-z. Meanwhile the fullframe > replacements to the K-x will obviously be named K-xl and K-xxl. > > Darren Addy > Kearney, Nebraska > -- > Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Limited Edition Motorcycle Mama Barbie
Around here they have stickers that say, do you still have sex or do you already ride a harley? i guess that wouldnt go down well either 2010/9/9 CheekyGeek : > Reminds me of my favorite "Death Wish" joke. Tell this one at the next > Biker Bar you visit and you'll see what I mean. > > Q: What's the difference between a Harley and a Hoover? > A: You can only put ONE dirtbag on a Hoover. > > (May only be funny in parts of the world where the name "Hoover" is > synonymous with vacuum cleaners.) > > Darren Addy > Kearney, Nebraska > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Cheers Ecke - Cameras don’t shoot people. Photographers shoot people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
On Sep 9, 2010, at 6:18 AM, Adam Maas wrote: > K-x with an extra stop of ISO, There is a "bump" for 12,800 on the K-x, but it does so in math, not in hardware. I think the K-7 also goes to 6,400 but its not as clean at 6400 as the K-x. It'd be nice if there was a standard SNR measurement, that also included resolution. > 1.3 extra fps, a deeper buffer, better > LCD, LiIon battery and unspecified AF changes (Only known difference > is a different point layout). Biggest disappointment Biggest disappointment is not being able to afford one. > is no wired > release and no upgrade to the metering (K-x's real weakpoint is the > old 16-segment meter). > > It comes in over the K-x in the line and the K-x will stay for now. > > -Adam > > On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 7:34 AM, paul stenquist > wrote: >> How do the specs compare to the Kx? Is it a replacement? >> Paul >> >> And where's my K5!! :-) >> >> >> On Sep 9, 2010, at 12:42 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: >> >>> The styling cues are in the same vein as the K-7. It has the squared off >>> look of an LX, for what that's worth. >>> >>> On 9/9/2010 12:10 AM, John Celio wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaD3E2FtkJo Sounds like a decent little camera. John -- http://www.jacelio.com http://www.cafepress.com/jacelio >>> >>> >>> -- >>> "His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed >>> moral bankruptcy." >>> -Woody Allen >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > > > -- > M. Adam Maas > http://www.mawz.ca > Explorations of the City Around Us. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
On Sep 9, 2010, at 6:52 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: > You're right, of course. And, the truth is, I should really be focused on > bankrupting myself over lenses, anyway. Mark! > > -- Walt > > On 9/9/2010 8:39 AM, P N Stenquist wrote: >> That's the way it works in the world of digital cameras. No point in getting >> worked up, because it will happen every time you buy a camera. >> Paul > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax
Also the Pentax way: not having merchandise in any actual stores near where you live, so that you might look at, touch, try, or even comparison-shop before purchasing. (Now returning to regularly-scheduled lurking, already in progress...) -c On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 11:12 AM, David Savage wrote: > Product announcement, not a product release. > > It's the Pentax way. > > DS > > On 9 September 2010 23:07, Morris Galloway > wrote: >> De-Lurking momentarily... >> >> So What is up with the New Pentax K-R? No one seems to have them in stock. >> >> Re-Lurking. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Semi-OT: Advice for a beginner?
Hi all, So, here's my situation. I ran into an old high school friend who's coaching several athletic teams. He's seen some of my photography and asked if I'd be interested in doing some team photos for them -- soccer and basketball. I told him I'd be interested in doing it, but I've never done that sort of thing before. He essentially said the main thing the kids' parents are concerned about is pricing, and feels pretty confident that I'm competent enough to handle the task based on what he's seen. Thing is, given my lack of experience, I'm not sure how much to charge these parents. I can go through Walmart for the prints, which seem to be pretty reasonably priced -- the standard sports package being $15.00. I don't know if any of you have any experience in this type of work at all, but any guidance would be much appreciated. I've never done any sort of professional work at all, so I'm at a bit of a loss as to how much I can fairly charge these people for my work. But, I'd like to be able to make a buck or two someday, if only to subsidize my photography addiction. Are there any rules of thumb or standard formulas that I could go by, aside from asking other local photographers what they're charging? Thanks in advance for any advice anyone can give me. Best, Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Happy Rosh Hashanah
On Sep 8, 2010, at 6:43 PM, frank theriault wrote: > To everyone who celebrates it, and even to those who don't, here's > wishing you Shana Tova. May your year be filled with peace, love and > joy. Shana Tova. > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 9:56 AM, CheekyGeek wrote: > K-r is the most unsexy name ever. Sounds like a camera designed for pirates. > K-Ar, matey. > I'm pretty sure the name comes from the fact that R is the letter in the middle of the range between m and x (as in K-m and K-x) -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax
Everybody's way. All the Photokina announcements are weeks to 1-2 months before availability (except Sony, who announces months to years before availability, the new A560 won't be available before January). -Adam On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 11:12 AM, David Savage wrote: > Product announcement, not a product release. > > It's the Pentax way. > > DS > > On 9 September 2010 23:07, Morris Galloway > wrote: >> De-Lurking momentarily... >> >> So What is up with the New Pentax K-R? No one seems to have them in stock. >> >> Re-Lurking. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Back from the playa
I'm back from burning man and am just starting to go through my pictures. Photography there has some interesting challenges. First of all there is the weather and dust. It was windy enough that I didn't want to take my primes out for the most part. As a matter of fact, most afternoons I didn't even take my Pentaxes out. I brought my Argus C-3 to shoot a few rolls just for fun, and ended up doing most of my daytime photography with it. The rolls are being processed and scanned at Bay right now. Another interesting challenge is that there are a tremendous number of opportunities to get good shots, but it's a lot harder to get good shots that are unique. My goal was to try to not take the merely good, and only go for excellent shots, but I'm afraid that my self control wasn't entirely up to that task. There is the temptation to try to show what it's like with photos, but describing it to someone who hasn't been there is truly impossible, there's no way of understanding what it is like without experiencing it. It was very interesting shooting with the Argus. Yes, I could have used the K1000 I brought, but WTF if you're going retro, might as well do it all the way. The rhythm of shooting with the C3 was so different. 1) Use a hand held meter, or guess at the exposure. 2) Set the exposure 3) Stand where you think you need to be. 4) Focus 5) Compose If composition isn't right, go to 3. 6) Cock the shutter 7) Take the picture 8) Advance the film Also with the greater latitude in exposure, and the much higher cost per frame, I didn't shoot nearly as many frames. There were a few shots that I'd bracket, or retake because I realized I had forgotten to focus, or something, but for the most part, it was one or two frames per shot, rather than trying to dial it in with chimping. I mostly shot with the 18-250 on the K-x. Looking at my shots, I really should have used my monopod more, I lost a lot due to camera motion. There's a big difference between hand holding 20-77mm and hand holding at 250. I'll be posting the better ones on flickr later, I started out with this set last night on facebook because it is of a couple of friends of mine playing music at Center Camp. http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=280402&id=653299672&l=0261e02f76 -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official
Just wondering . . . do new cameras make us better photographers? Or are we just hardware junkies? Jerry -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: K-r is official
>Just wondering . . . do new cameras make us better photographers? Or are we >just hardware junkies? Both. Technical advances sometimes make difficult shots easier, but clearly a lot of us here also like to be on the cutting edge of camera tech. John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/jacelio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
On 9/9/2010 12:30 PM, Adam Maas wrote: On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 9:56 AM, CheekyGeek wrote: K-r is the most unsexy name ever. Sounds like a camera designed for pirates. K-Ar, matey. I'm pretty sure the name comes from the fact that R is the letter in the middle of the range between m and x (as in K-m and K-x) -Adam So we really can look forward to a Pentax K-y sometime in the future... -- "His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy." -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Adam Maas wrote: > I'm pretty sure the name comes from the fact that R is the letter in > the middle of the range between m and x (as in K-m and K-x) BRILLIANT! http://tinyurl.com/yg5d39c -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official
Sure do. A new camera will also make you grow hair, make your lawn lusher and greener, plus improve your love life. On 9/9/2010 12:45 PM, Jerry in Arizona wrote: Just wondering . . . do new cameras make us better photographers? Or are we just hardware junkies? Jerry -- "His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy." -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
I tried to tempt my wife with these ones: http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-r/simulator.php#040810 or http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-r/simulator.php#080108 Her comment, when I switched through to something more reasonable http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-r/simulator.php#020103 was "So you're only allowed to use it to take black & white pictures?" On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 09:07:28AM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > WOW! COLORS! > > Dan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official
On 9/9/2010 12:53 PM, John Celio wrote: Just wondering . . . do new cameras make us better photographers? Or are we just hardware junkies? Both. Technical advances sometimes make difficult shots easier, but clearly a lot of us here also like to be on the cutting edge of camera tech. Que insane giggles. Said while gasping for breath: Yet you're still shooting with Pentax. Insane giggles trail off... John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/jacelio -- "His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy." -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Jerry in Arizona wrote: > Just wondering . . . do new cameras make us better photographers? Or are we > just hardware junkies? Oh, CrikeyI think we've been down this road before... Auto racers might just as well ask: do new engines make use better drivers? Or are we just motorheads? a) The two are not mutually exclusive. b) As far as the image quality is dependent upon the camera, better cameras (usually newer, in the digital/tech age) allow a photographer to make better images (with the same skill set). c) However, as we all know: 1) image quality is Subjective 2) a competent photographer can take good images with just about any kind of equipment (with an understanding of exposure, composition, and the ingredients like depth-of-field and shutter speed if the equipment allows such exposure modifications) 3) not all image quality is dependent upon the CAMERA itself. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Test
Might be all blue later today when I return from the 2 hr 51 min viewing of "Avatar, Special Edition 3D". It's the last day of it showing here. I've missed all previous dates. Know I won't be viewing it on a Netflix DVD in 3D, so… On Sep 9, 2010, at 02:25 , eckinator wrote: so I'll be calling you "el corazon valiente" from now on? c'mon show us yer blue stripes =) 2010/9/9 Joseph McAllister : On Sep 9, 2010, at 01:42 , eckinator wrote: 2010/9/9 Joseph McAllister : No es Jose, es José, tonto! José MuckChhhallister? José el gran guerrero escocés que estudió español durante años con la señora Oñate en Cambridge, Massachusetts mientras asistía a la Escuela Preparatoria de Nueva. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “José the great Scottish Warrior who studied spanish for years with Señora Onaté in Cambridge, Massachussetts while attending New Preparatory School.” Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn’t need to lug a camera.” –Lewis Hine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
How boring, she could at least go for the bling. (Now you too can own a special edition) http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-r/simulator.php#111013 see http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/film_LX/LX_Gold.jpg On 9/9/2010 12:57 PM, John Francis wrote: I tried to tempt my wife with these ones: http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-r/simulator.php#040810 or http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-r/simulator.php#080108 Her comment, when I switched through to something more reasonable http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-r/simulator.php#020103 was "So you're only allowed to use it to take black& white pictures?" On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 09:07:28AM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: WOW! COLORS! Dan -- "His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy." -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax
From: Morris Galloway De-Lurking momentarily... So What is up with the New Pentax K-R? No one seems to have them in stock. Re-Lurking. I think it's like the trailers for the new Harry Potter movie. Won't actually be available until later this year. It'll be here in time for Christmas ... in case anyone's wondering what to get me this year. ;-D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
http://mint.handmanufacture.com/mythbusters-polishing-poop/ On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 11:36 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > Sure you can, just don't expect it to shine. > > On 9/9/2010 9:15 AM, David Savage wrote: >> >> The phrase "You can't polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter" >> comes to mind. >> >> :-) >> >> DS >> >> On 9 September 2010 21:07, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >>> >>> WOW! COLORS! >>> >>> Dan >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 12:10 AM, John Celio wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaD3E2FtkJo Sounds like a decent little camera. John -- http://www.jacelio.com http://www.cafepress.com/jacelio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> > > > -- > "His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed > moral bankruptcy." > -Woody Allen > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official
On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 09:53:14 -0700 John Celio wrote: > Both. Technical advances sometimes make difficult shots easier, but > clearly a lot of us here also like to be on the cutting edge of camera > tech. my edge seems scabbed over. -- "Love" is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own... Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy condition.- Robert Heinlein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Test
The movie has great special effects, making it a "must-see," but the plot is woefully deficient, and the movie is far, far too long. Dan On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: > Might be all blue later today when I return from the 2 hr 51 min viewing of > "Avatar, Special Edition 3D". It's the last day of it showing here. I've > missed all previous dates. Know I won't be viewing it on a Netflix DVD in > 3D, so… > > > On Sep 9, 2010, at 02:25 , eckinator wrote: > >> so I'll be calling you "el corazon valiente" from now on? c'mon show >> us yer blue stripes =) >> >> 2010/9/9 Joseph McAllister : >>> >>> On Sep 9, 2010, at 01:42 , eckinator wrote: >>> 2010/9/9 Joseph McAllister : > > No es Jose, es José, tonto! José MuckChhhallister? >>> >>> José el gran guerrero escocés que estudió español durante años con la >>> señora >>> Oñate en Cambridge, Massachusetts mientras asistía a la Escuela >>> Preparatoria >>> de Nueva. >>> >>> >>> >>> Joseph McAllister >>> pentax...@mac.com >>> >>> “José the great Scottish Warrior who studied spanish for years with >>> Señora >>> Onaté in Cambridge, Massachussetts while attending New Preparatory >>> School.” > > Joseph McAllister > pentax...@mac.com > > “If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn’t need to lug a camera.” > –Lewis Hine > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official (video)
OUCH! From: "P. J. Alling" This combo particularly says teenage girl, (japanese), to me,,, http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-r/simulator.php#040707 On 9/9/2010 9:07 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > WOW! COLORS! > > Dan > > On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 12:10 AM, John Celio wrote: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaD3E2FtkJo >> >> Sounds like a decent little camera. >> >> John >> -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Back from the playa
" There's a big difference between hand holding 20-77mm and hand holding at 250." Tru dat. Dan On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > I'm back from burning man and am just starting to go through my pictures. > Photography there has some interesting challenges. First of all there is the > weather and dust. It was windy enough that I didn't want to take my primes > out for the most part. As a matter of fact, most afternoons I didn't even > take my Pentaxes out. I brought my Argus C-3 to shoot a few rolls just for > fun, and ended up doing most of my daytime photography with it. The rolls are > being processed and scanned at Bay right now. > > Another interesting challenge is that there are a tremendous number of > opportunities to get good shots, but it's a lot harder to get good shots that > are unique. My goal was to try to not take the merely good, and only go for > excellent shots, but I'm afraid that my self control wasn't entirely up to > that task. > > There is the temptation to try to show what it's like with photos, but > describing it to someone who hasn't been there is truly impossible, there's > no way of understanding what it is like without experiencing it. > > It was very interesting shooting with the Argus. Yes, I could have used the > K1000 I brought, but WTF if you're going retro, might as well do it all the > way. The rhythm of shooting with the C3 was so different. > > 1) Use a hand held meter, or guess at the exposure. > 2) Set the exposure > 3) Stand where you think you need to be. > 4) Focus > 5) Compose > If composition isn't right, go to 3. > 6) Cock the shutter > 7) Take the picture > 8) Advance the film > > Also with the greater latitude in exposure, and the much higher cost per > frame, I didn't shoot nearly as many frames. There were a few shots that I'd > bracket, or retake because I realized I had forgotten to focus, or something, > but for the most part, it was one or two frames per shot, rather than trying > to dial it in with chimping. > > I mostly shot with the 18-250 on the K-x. Looking at my shots, I really > should have used my monopod more, I lost a lot due to camera motion. There's > a big difference between hand holding 20-77mm and hand holding at 250. > > I'll be posting the better ones on flickr later, I started out with this set > last night on facebook because it is of a couple of friends of mine playing > music at Center Camp. > > http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=280402&id=653299672&l=0261e02f76 > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Also official - DA L 35mm f2.4
It's just cheap. They do offer a much nicer DA 35 macro (not fast however). Virtually all (maybe all) of Pentax's new lenses have not been that fast, especially considering they are primes. On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 11:55 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > On 9/9/2010 11:43 AM, Miserere wrote: >> >> On 9 September 2010 09:14, Adam Maas wrote: >>> >>> I'm profoundly ambivalent on the new 35. The competition has amanged >>> to produce equivalents which are both faster (f1.8) and cheaper ($200 >>> MSRP) and while the new 35 is smaller than the Nikon or Sony versions, >>> it's not significantly so. I was expecting a much smaller lens when I >>> heard the f2.4 spec. >>> >>> Time for me to start hunting an FA35 I think. >>> >>> -Adam >> >> I am not ambivalent, I'm insulted. And the marketing blurb says "fast >> f/2.4 aperture". That's like a car dealer trying to sell you "a fast >> 20mph sportscar". Do they think we're idiots? >> >> My thoughts here: >> >> >> http://enticingthelight.com/2010/09/09/pentax-finally-announce-new-equipment/ >> >> >> --M. > > The f2.4 aperture isn't so strange, if you go back to the earlier days of > Pentax lenses. There was, an Auto Takumar 35mm f2.4, at one point. I > wonder if they've just dusted off the old optical formula and put it in a > plastic body... Naa, they wouldn't it would have to be a new design. > > -- > "His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed > moral bankruptcy." > -Woody Allen > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Also official - DA L 35mm f2.4
On 9 September 2010 11:55, P. J. Alling wrote: > > The f2.4 aperture isn't so strange, if you go back to the earlier days of > Pentax lenses. There was, an Auto Takumar 35mm f2.4, at one point. I > wonder if they've just dusted off the old optical formula and put it in a > plastic body... Naa, they wouldn't it would have to be a new design. There was also a K 35mm f/3.5. In 1975. It had the decency of having a metal mount too. --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Semi-OT: Advice for a beginner?
From: Walter Gilbert Hi all, So, here's my situation. I ran into an old high school friend who's coaching several athletic teams. He's seen some of my photography and asked if I'd be interested in doing some team photos for them -- soccer and basketball. I told him I'd be interested in doing it, but I've never done that sort of thing before. He essentially said the main thing the kids' parents are concerned about is pricing, and feels pretty confident that I'm competent enough to handle the task based on what he's seen. Thing is, given my lack of experience, I'm not sure how much to charge these parents. I can go through Walmart for the prints, which seem to be pretty reasonably priced -- the standard sports package being $15.00. I don't know if any of you have any experience in this type of work at all, but any guidance would be much appreciated. I've never done any sort of professional work at all, so I'm at a bit of a loss as to how much I can fairly charge these people for my work. But, I'd like to be able to make a buck or two someday, if only to subsidize my photography addiction. Are there any rules of thumb or standard formulas that I could go by, aside from asking other local photographers what they're charging? According to my Portrait instructor at school, your prices should be between 4 and 7 times your cost. Figure your time at whatever rate you want to pay yourself. Say there are 20 team members and you spend 2 hours shooting. At $50 an hour that's a hundred bucks. Split 20 ways, that's $5 per team member. Package from Walmart is $15, so your cost per package is $20. Your price should be between $80 and $140 per package. Go higher or lower based on what you think is fair market value. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PC thingies
P. J. Alling wrote: And where in Hell would I get a virgin? If you live there, you have greater worries than the availability of virgins. On 9/7/2010 1:29 PM, Bob W wrote: http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-6031733.html 11. Sacrifice a virgin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Test
On 9 September 2010 13:23, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > The movie has great special effects, making it a "must-see," but the > plot is woefully deficient, and the movie is far, far too long. > > Dan I watched it twice at the movie theaters (both in 3D) and loved it. I didn't find it too long, and the visual beauty of it all far makes up for the plot deficiencies. The music is great too. Enjoy the film, Joe! --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi-OT: Advice for a beginner?
Walter, First, a disclaimer. I don't think my opinion would be a representative one on this matter either from a typical photographer's point of view, or from the potential clients': I don't fit the typical profile. So, take it with a grain of salt. What to charge - is a hard question. In any case, - read this: http://www.danheller.com/biz-prints.html#5 It may or may not be directly applicable to your case, but very reasonable arguments are listed there. I think that Walmart "sports pacakge" (3 8x10", 4 5x7', 2 4x6" and 8 wallet prints) is a marketing ploy. I wouldn't see what's special about such a set, and why would one want it. Personally, I'd rather offer photos priced "a la carte", with discounts for multiple (mix and match) photos from the same client/order You can choose between two models (typical for event photographers for this sort of public events): 1. "Cheap and dirty" or 2. "Great but more expensive" or some sort of combination between the two. (From your description, I suspect your clients will gravitate to the former one, but you need some flavor of the latter to attract the attention) Here is what I mean: 1. Once you shoot all your photos, you don't do much of selection (I still would remove obvious misses.), upload them to the website, and let the clients choose and order. Then you adjust the chosen photos before sending them to the printer (photo lab) 2. You do careful selection and adjustment of your shots (can be a big drag in case of 1000+ photos). Then you post the resulting photos to the web for the clients to choose and order. Practically (depending on demand and number of images), - you might to do a hybrid between the two: develop just a bunch of selected photos - to show a representative gallery, but then dump all photos with just a minimum selection (as in 1.), clearly indicating that they are yet undeveloped. This would save a lot of time and energy, especially in case of small number of sales. If you are using LR, you might consider this plugin: http://lr.theturninggate.net/html-galleries/ttg-client-response-gallery/ (or something similar from the same site) that will help in the ordering process. One of those templates can even be coupled with an online direct-printing services. I didn't find it useful for myself - you really need a constant flow of customers to justify using that printing service (Fotomoto or FoxyCart). HTH, Igor Thu Sep 9 11:14:46 CDT 2010 Walter Gilbert wrote: Hi all, So, here's my situation. I ran into an old high school friend who's coaching several athletic teams. He's seen some of my photography and asked if I'd be interested in doing some team photos for them -- soccer and basketball. I told him I'd be interested in doing it, but I've never done that sort of thing before. He essentially said the main thing the kids' parents are concerned about is pricing, and feels pretty confident that I'm competent enough to handle the task based on what he's seen. Thing is, given my lack of experience, I'm not sure how much to charge these parents. I can go through Walmart for the prints, which seem to be pretty reasonably priced -- the standard sports package being $15.00. I don't know if any of you have any experience in this type of work at all, but any guidance would be much appreciated. I've never done any sort of professional work at all, so I'm at a bit of a loss as to how much I can fairly charge these people for my work. But, I'd like to be able to make a buck or two someday, if only to subsidize my photography addiction. Are there any rules of thumb or standard formulas that I could go by, aside from asking other local photographers what they're charging? Thanks in advance for any advice anyone can give me. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Also official - DA L 35mm f2.4
At 1:40 PM -0400 9/9/10, Miserere wrote: On 9 September 2010 11:55, P. J. Alling wrote: The f2.4 aperture isn't so strange, if you go back to the earlier days of Pentax lenses. There was, an Auto Takumar 35mm f2.4, at one point. I wonder if they've just dusted off the old optical formula and put it in a plastic body... Naa, they wouldn't it would have to be a new design. There was also a K 35mm f/3.5. In 1975. It had the decency of having a metal mount too. ...and is a superb lens as well. -- Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
