Re: geso rendering preset

2010-11-29 Thread Boris Liberman
Hmmm, interesting. Seems to fit the Chicagoan atmosphere and the season 
quite nicely. So, you say, you played with yellow and green color? In 
what way?


On 11/20/2010 7:35 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

fooling around with making my own developing presets in lightroom.

http://www.caguila.com/caguila/yellowgreen/

comments welcome.
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Re: Geso: Critter progress - listening to the public

2010-11-29 Thread Cotty

 perhaps aiming for 4 parts mammal, 4 parts birds, 4 parts
 reptiles/anphibs

sorta like Cotty then...

Ribbit.

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Re: test chart links wanted

2010-11-29 Thread eckinator
I've had it for over a year but thus far I've rarely shot flat
subjects wide open and I'm not much of a pixel peeper so it may well
have escaped me until now. I'll go for the wall then. The idea was to
have something to show to Pentax when I drive over there.
Ecke

2010/11/29 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:
 For a flat focus test all you need is a textured wall, a tripod and a level. 
 Just make sure the camera is parallel to the wall and the lens is 
 perpendicular to the wall. Then shoot wide open. It was easy to spot the 
 focus error on my first 16-50. But this is an assembly problem that generally 
 shows up immediately. How long have you had the lens?
 Paul

 On Nov 28, 2010, at 6:07 PM, eckinator wrote:

 hi all
 a lot of the photos taken today lead me to think my 16-50 may be
 decentered - there is tons on inexplicable softness in an otherwise
 flat field - can anyone please point me towards a link with a chart
 that will help me to illustrate the problem for when I turn the lens
 in for repair ... again ...
 thanks in advance
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Re: PESO firetruck

2010-11-29 Thread Larry Colen

On Nov 28, 2010, at 11:54 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:

 I hate you ever so little, Larry.

Thank you ever so little.


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DA18-135 DC review

2010-11-29 Thread Thibouille
http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/pentax_18-135mm_review.php

Not a thorough review IMO but interesting none the less.

In brief, the AF seems in good step up from previous SDM
implementations. It may not be state of the art but is fairly faster
than SDM lenses. They were very surprised.
The performance is, of course, limited by the type of lens, there's no
wonder. But still, for such kind of lens it seems quite good.
Better than usual Tammy 18-200 et all.

The price is high but seems justified. It is a mid level lens, not a
cheap kit glass.

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Re: DA18-135 DC review

2010-11-29 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
Thx for the link. I was quite interested in the lens but the current price...

K-5 body only: 1200 EUR
K-5 with 18-135: 1800 EUR
18-135 alone: 722 EUR


And probably it will not be optically better than my current Sigma 17-70 
(except 
maybe for the AF according to the review).

Regards,
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 Asunto: DA18-135 DC review
 
 http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/pentax_18-135mm_review.php
 
 Not a  thorough review IMO but interesting none the less.
 
 In brief, the AF seems  in good step up from previous SDM
 implementations. It may not be state of the  art but is fairly faster
 than SDM lenses. They were very surprised.
 The  performance is, of course, limited by the type of lens, there's no
 wonder.  But still, for such kind of lens it seems quite good.
 Better than usual Tammy  18-200 et all.
 
 The price is high but seems justified. It is a mid level  lens, not a
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Re: DA18-135 DC review

2010-11-29 Thread Boris Liberman

On 11/29/2010 12:44 PM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote:

Thx for the link. I was quite interested in the lens but the current price...

K-5 body only: 1200 EUR
K-5 with 18-135: 1800 EUR
18-135 alone: 722 EUR


And probably it will not be optically better than my current Sigma 17-70 (except
maybe for the AF according to the review).

Regards,
Jaume


I concur, Jaume. The 18-135/3.5-5.6 is just plain slow. Your Sigma is 
faster, slightly wider and probably just as good optically if not 
better. I still believe that the smaller zoom factor is (longest f.l. 
divided by shortest f.l.) - the less compromises can be made during lens 
design.


I should say that having been shooting a lot with Sigma 24-60/2.8, I've 
grown to appreciate Sigma EX series. This lens is extremely high value 
for the money one usually buys it for (order of USD 250).


One thing bothers me about the review that Miserere informed us about - 
I'd like to see real life shots in various conditions. But then again, 
the reviews like those on photozone are easy to get used to. I don't 
even care much about the reviews themselves, but photozone publishes 
interesting and useful real life examples of the lens.


This new lens is indeed very fascinating and I would gladly read more 
about it.


Boris

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Re: DA18-135 DC review

2010-11-29 Thread P. J. Alling
I haven't been too excited about this, it's the aps-c functional 
equivalent of the 28-200mm a lens that as  a class fails to impress.


The preview, (I wouldn't call it a review) actually is nicely positive, 
but I question the reviewers judgment when he states,  ...the lenses 
that most closely resembled it were the 17-70mm F4 and the 18-250mm 
F3.5-6.3, *both of which have different uses*.  (Emphasis mine).  Well 
no not really, at least in the case of the 18-250, they are pretty much 
designed for  the same usage, a lens that covers everything you're 
likely to shoot.


Additionally he displays a lack of historical perspective since the 
28-200mm wasn't a cheap lens when introduced, not only being more 
expensive, when inflation is taken into account, and a larger percentage 
of the kit's cost, when taking into account the difference in price of 
the cameras it was designed for.


He mentions a nit, the reversed positions of the focus and zoom rings 
vis-à-vis the normal Pentax practice, which I doubt will bother it's 
target audience as they will most likely never own another lens.



On 11/29/2010 5:30 AM, Thibouille wrote:

http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/pentax_18-135mm_review.php

Not a thorough review IMO but interesting none the less.

In brief, the AF seems in good step up from previous SDM
implementations. It may not be state of the art but is fairly faster
than SDM lenses. They were very surprised.
The performance is, of course, limited by the type of lens, there's no
wonder. But still, for such kind of lens it seems quite good.
Better than usual Tammy 18-200 et all.

The price is high but seems justified. It is a mid level lens, not a
cheap kit glass.




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Re: DA18-135 DC review

2010-11-29 Thread eckinator
2010/11/29 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:

 I haven't been too excited about this, it's the aps-c functional equivalent
 of the 28-200mm a lens that as  a class fails to impress.

true to a point - similar zoom factor but probably easier to build and calculate

 The preview, (I wouldn't call it a review) actually is nicely positive, but
 I question the reviewers judgment when he states,  ...the lenses that most
 closely resembled it were the 17-70mm F4 and the 18-250mm F3.5-6.3, *both of
 which have different uses*.  (Emphasis mine).  Well no not really, at least
 in the case of the 18-250, they are pretty much designed for  the same
 usage, a lens that covers everything you're likely to shoot.

what is so bad about that? I'm trying to make it policy to always
carry a camera plus refconverter and as much as I prefer the 16-50
over the 18-250 the former sometimes lacks on the long end. 18-135 is
still not ideal but it has WR which the 18-250 doesn't and I don't see
my dream zoom on the horizon any time soon.

 Additionally he displays a lack of historical perspective since the 28-200mm
 wasn't a cheap lens when introduced, not only being more expensive, when
 inflation is taken into account, and a larger percentage of the kit's cost,
 when taking into account the difference in price of the cameras it was
 designed for.

true but he shares that deficiency with millions of people who've lost
their grasp of prices =/

 He mentions a nit, the reversed positions of the focus and zoom rings
 vis-à-vis the normal Pentax practice, which I doubt will bother it's target
 audience as they will most likely never own another lens.

I politely disagree - I have four lenses each of Pentax and 3rd
parties and I'm likely to buy it nonetheless - not for another year
though :[ position of rings would be the least obstacle in my book -
the crappy tiny focus ring on the 18-250 didn't stop me either

now Pentax if you could please make that DA* 11-16 reality and follow
up with a DA* or WR 16-80 or17-85 or 20-100 or whatever - heck, I
might even be tempted to extend my always carry policy to a small bag
and a second lens and flash

Ned, are you listening?

Cheers
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Re: PESO -- Moon over Newport

2010-11-29 Thread Jack Davis
Well seen and nicely composed, Peter. As you wrote, both a wider lens and 
tripod could have been put to good use.

Jack


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 Subject: PESO -- Moon over Newport
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, November 28, 2010, 8:47 PM
 Went to Newport RI last evening to
 wander the pubs and nightclubs.  I took the K20d and a
 few small(ish), fast primes.  I really wish I had a
 tripod for this shot but you use what you've got..  As
 long as I'm wishing I had a tripod I might as well wish I
 had a slightly wider lens.
 
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20moonovernewport.html
 
 Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax A 24mm f2.8.
 
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Re: DA18-135 DC review

2010-11-29 Thread P. J. Alling

On 11/29/2010 7:54 AM, eckinator wrote:

2010/11/29 P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com:

I haven't been too excited about this, it's the aps-c functional equivalent
of the 28-200mm a lens that as  a class fails to impress.

true to a point - similar zoom factor but probably easier to build and calculate


The preview, (I wouldn't call it a review) actually is nicely positive, but
I question the reviewers judgment when he states,  ...the lenses that most
closely resembled it were the 17-70mm F4 and the 18-250mm F3.5-6.3, *both of
which have different uses*.  (Emphasis mine).  Well no not really, at least
in the case of the 18-250, they are pretty much designed for  the same
usage, a lens that covers everything you're likely to shoot.

what is so bad about that? I'm trying to make it policy to always
carry a camera plus refconverter and as much as I prefer the 16-50
over the 18-250 the former sometimes lacks on the long end. 18-135 is
still not ideal but it has WR which the 18-250 doesn't and I don't see
my dream zoom on the horizon any time soon.


Nothing bad about the lens.  My beef is with this particular author not 
seeming to know the what the target audience for the product he's 
reviewing.  Hell just about anyone on this list could produce a review 
of this caliber and we don't generally get review equipment let alone 
paid for our opinions, which I;m assuming is the case.



Additionally he displays a lack of historical perspective since the 28-200mm
wasn't a cheap lens when introduced, not only being more expensive, when
inflation is taken into account, and a larger percentage of the kit's cost,
when taking into account the difference in price of the cameras it was
designed for.

true but he shares that deficiency with millions of people who've lost
their grasp of prices =/


He mentions a nit, the reversed positions of the focus and zoom rings
vis-à-vis the normal Pentax practice, which I doubt will bother it's target
audience as they will most likely never own another lens.

I politely disagree - I have four lenses each of Pentax and 3rd
parties and I'm likely to buy it nonetheless - not for another year
though :[ position of rings would be the least obstacle in my book -
the crappy tiny focus ring on the 18-250 didn't stop me either


You're not the target demographic, and you're at least a little bit 
weird, but that's a different issue... ;-)




now Pentax if you could please make that DA* 11-16 reality and follow
up with a DA* or WR 16-80 or17-85 or 20-100 or whatever - heck, I
might even be tempted to extend my always carry policy to a small bag
and a second lens and flash

Ned, are you listening?

Cheers
Ecke




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Re: DA18-135 DC review

2010-11-29 Thread eckinator
2010/11/29 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:

 Nothing bad about the lens.  My beef is with this particular author not
 seeming to know the what the target audience for the product he's reviewing.
  Hell just about anyone on this list could produce a review of this caliber
 and we don't generally get review equipment let alone paid for our opinions,
 which I;m assuming is the case.

oh yeah, I agree - that review is positively skinny in all the wrong places...

 You're not the target demographic, and you're at least a little bit weird,
 but that's a different issue... ;-)

LOL gotta give you that =) My OS is Windows but I'm pretty stable otherwise...

Cheers
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Re: Mark's Platinum Printing Workshop Report

2010-11-29 Thread Mark Roberts
 http://enticingthelight.com/2010/11/27/platinum-printing-workshop-at-the-george-eastman-house-a-report/

Now also on TOP, albeit in a shorter, less idiosyncratically-written
version:
http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2010/11/workshops-at-geh.html

The TOP  article was supposed to come out last week and I asked
Miserere to hold off the version on his web site until weekend. But
the TOP article ran late -- those who know Mike J. won't be much
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Re: PESO- Eiffel Tower

2010-11-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Not a great scan, but here is a view of the Tower I took 10 years ago:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7890615

Dan
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On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 2:19 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oh, that would be that tall structure in the midst of the capital of that
 European state... Hmmm... Yes, yes...

 On 11/29/2010 4:38 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

 From my trip to Paris earlier this month, two views of the Eiffel Tower:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12017412

 and, for detail,

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12017411

 (K7, DA 16-45, ISO 1600, handheld)

 It is an utterly amazing structure.

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Re: Happy Thanksgiving ... and a small gift! - GDG

2010-11-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
not necessary.

On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well then, I suppose I should apologize now...

 On 11/29/2010 8:25 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 Sorry, a bit too obscure for me.

 On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Godfrey, that was merely a play of words. Consider - if you give a gift
 on a
 thanksgiving day and then everyone is thanking you, doesn't that mean
 that
 you've been also thankstaking?

 /friendly grin/

 Boris


 On 11/28/2010 11:26 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Neat. Now, the question is have you been thanksgiving of thankstaking
 here?

 huh?


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Re: Two more PESOs from Boris

2010-11-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I like the empty street very much, Boris.

As for the Gelato case, I have tried to take that very shot several
times, with miserable results. Your image is just a perfect
visualization of the scene!

Dan
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01 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi!

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-55-ice-cream.html and
 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-56-empty-street.html

 Be brutal and honest.

 Boris

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Re: PESO - In the Can

2010-11-29 Thread David J Brooks
Made me laugh.

Nice smile as always.

DAVE

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 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12016762

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Re: PESO - Barstool Boots

2010-11-29 Thread David J Brooks
I like it, not sure whay, but i do.

Dave

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knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 I thought they looked kinda sexy:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/11/barstool-boots.html

 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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Re: Mark's Platinum Printing Workshop Report

2010-11-29 Thread P N Stenquist
Well done. A good read.
Paul
On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:51 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 http://enticingthelight.com/2010/11/27/platinum-printing-workshop-at-the-george-eastman-house-a-report/
 
 Now also on TOP, albeit in a shorter, less idiosyncratically-written
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 http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2010/11/workshops-at-geh.html
 
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Re: GESO: Sculpturematic

2010-11-29 Thread David J Brooks
Another made me smile shot.

Dave

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 There's a big hill near me called Little Mountain. It's got this silly
 sculptural group on top called Photo Session, which has three people
 lined up with a great view behind them, and another person taking
 their picture.  It's from 1984 and silly but works well; approximately
 100% of the tourists who visit here figure out one way or another to
 have a meta-photoshoot in among the piece.  I was up there today and
 took a couple snaps; I thought you ladies and gents might enjoy the
 close-up of the camera.
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbray/sets/72157625364812719/

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Re: PAW47 - Two

2010-11-29 Thread David J Brooks
I like the subject and the framinmg.


Dave

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Private - Northern Indiana

2010-11-29 Thread Bob Sullivan
M,
Just teasing you.
Northern Indiana, even Southbend, is kind of rural compared to Boston.
And the weather really isn't much colder than Boston (5F at most).
But SNOW off of the lake replaces rain from the ocean!
Regards,  Bob S.

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 You're welcome, Bob. I think...



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 M,
 Wonderful of you to visit the hinterlands for Thanksgiving!
 Regards,  Bob S.

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 As I'm freezing in Northern Indiana, I fully understand why he's
 smiling. Nice framing, Knarf.


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 The first in what I think will become a series:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/11/guy-with-big-furry-hat.html

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Re: Private - Northern Indiana

2010-11-29 Thread Christian Skofteland
Privacy FAIL!

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 09:18:04AM -0600, Bob Sullivan wrote:
 M,
 Just teasing you.
 Northern Indiana, even Southbend, is kind of rural compared to Boston.
 And the weather really isn't much colder than Boston (5F at most).
 But SNOW off of the lake replaces rain from the ocean!
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
  You're welcome, Bob. I think...
 
 
 
  On 28/11/2010, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
  M,
  Wonderful of you to visit the hinterlands for Thanksgiving!
  Regards,  Bob S.
 
  On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
  As I'm freezing in Northern Indiana, I fully understand why he's
  smiling. Nice framing, Knarf.
 
 
  On 27/11/2010, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
  The first in what I think will become a series:
 
  http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/11/guy-with-big-furry-hat.html
 
  Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
 
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Re: PESO- Eiffel Tower

2010-11-29 Thread Cotty
On 28/11/10, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:

From my trip to Paris earlier this month, two views of the Eiffel Tower:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12017412

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2010-11-29 Thread Igor Roshchin

Hi All,

While shooting an argentine tango performance over the weekend 
I set the WB of my K-7 to Tungsten light.
I was surprised to see that while ~80% of shots were with about the right
color, some considerable number of shots had a distinctive.
It was not as red as it would have been if I left the WB to be on Auto,
but still yellow.

All the shots were taken under the same condition: in the same room, 
from the same point, with no light changing, just the couple moving.
More over,- some series of shots were made with the the couple in place ,- 
and some have the WB alright, and some - are yellow.

Has anybody experienced anything of this sort?
What could be the reason (besides some malfunction of the camera)?

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White Balance on K-7

2010-11-29 Thread Igor Roshchin

Hi All,

While shooting an argentine tango performance over the weekend 
I set the WB of my K-7 to Tungsten light.
I was surprised to see that while ~80% of shots were with about the right
color, some considerable number of shots had a distinctive.
It was not as red as it would have been if I left the WB to be on Auto,
but still yellow.

All the shots were taken under the same condition: in the same room, 
from the same point, with no light changing, just the couple moving.
More over,- some series of shots were made with the the couple in place ,- 
and some have the WB alright, and some - are yellow.

Has anybody experienced anything of this sort?
What could be the reason (besides some malfunction of the camera)?

Igor

(Sorry for the duplicated message, - the previous one had a corrupted 
Subject/header)


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Re: Two more PESOs from Boris

2010-11-29 Thread Bob Sullivan
Boris,
I like the street shot.  Lighting and composition work well together.
The first shot, Ice Cream, is a little problem for me.
I can't really tell what the stuff in the case is.
Is this Gelato as Dan says or are these vegetables in grocer's case?
I need a closer or bigger image to really tell, or to sell the illusion.
Regards,  Bob S.

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 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-55-ice-cream.html and
 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-56-empty-street.html

 Be brutal and honest.

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Re: White Balance on K-7

2010-11-29 Thread P N Stenquist

On Nov 29, 2010, at 10:39 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

 
 Hi All,
 
 While shooting an argentine tango performance over the weekend 
 I set the WB of my K-7 to Tungsten light.
 I was surprised to see that while ~80% of shots were with about the right
 color, some considerable number of shots had a distinctive.
 It was not as red as it would have been if I left the WB to be on Auto,
 but still yellow.
 
 All the shots were taken under the same condition: in the same room, 
 from the same point, with no light changing, just the couple moving.
 More over,- some series of shots were made with the the couple in place ,- 
 and some have the WB alright, and some - are yellow.
 
 Has anybody experienced anything of this sort?
 What could be the reason (besides some malfunction of the camera)?

What fills the frame affects white balance. If the dancers were blocking some 
of the light on some shots and more fully lit on others, you'll get some 
variation of color temp. Easy enough to correct during conversion.
Paul

 
 Igor
 
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 Subject/header)
 
 
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Re: PESO - In the Can

2010-11-29 Thread P N Stenquist
Thanks David. And thanks to all who had a look.
Paul


On Nov 29, 2010, at 10:00 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Made me laugh.
 
 Nice smile as always.
 
 DAVE
 
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 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12016762
 
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RE: Two more PESOs from Boris

2010-11-29 Thread John Sessoms

From: Boris Liberman


Hi!

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-55-ice-cream.html and
http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-56-empty-street.html

Be brutal and honest.


With these, I can be one or the other, but not both. You pick which it's 
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Re: Reuters pix of the year

2010-11-29 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 29, 2010, at 0:17, Tim Bray wrote:

 http://blogs.reuters.com/fullfocus/2010/11/15/best-of-the-year/#a=1
 
 Worth taking the time to work your way through, I'd say -T
 

Great stuff.  And I love how each one has a description from the photographer 
leading up to the moment of the shot.  It makes the images that much more 
interesting.

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Re: Two more PESOs from Boris

2010-11-29 Thread Ken Waller
I like 'empty-street' but I'd try to minimize the dark section in the top 
middle by cropping a bit.

It's a blank area and somewhat distracting to me.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

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From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com

Subject: Two more PESOs from Boris



Hi!

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-55-ice-cream.html and
http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-56-empty-street.html

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Re: PESO- Eiffel Tower

2010-11-29 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 28, 2010, at 20:38, Rick Womer wrote:

 From my trip to Paris earlier this month, two views of the Eiffel Tower:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12017412
 
 and, for detail,
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12017411
 
 (K7, DA 16-45, ISO 1600, handheld)
 
 It is an utterly amazing structure.
 

Very pretty!  I like 'em.

I would love to see this building again.  Haven't been there since... 1972.

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Re: Two more PESOs from Boris

2010-11-29 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Ken Waller wrote:

I like 'empty-street' but I'd try to minimize the dark section in the 
top middle by cropping a bit.

It's a blank area and somewhat distracting to me.

Kenneth Waller
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I agree with Ken on this...

ann




- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com
Subject: Two more PESOs from Boris



Hi!

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-55-ice-cream.html and
http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-56-empty-street.html

Be brutal and honest.

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Re: PESO - In the Can

2010-11-29 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Jack Davis wrote:


What a relief! Was afraid we were going to see you in the men's room. 
WHHEEEW!


LOL my first thought as well...


Grace makes you look awfully good, Paul. ;))

Jack

cute shot - but she is going to be such a handful when she is a teenager 
if you keep this up!

(not that she isn't a bit of a handful already :-))
ann



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Subject: PESO - In the Can
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Sunday, November 28, 2010, 1:08 PM
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PESO: Cormor-Ain't

2010-11-29 Thread Walter Gilbert

 Hi all,

Just wanted to share a whimsical little shot I took at the Razorback 
gift shop in Eureka Springs.  Given my whereabouts, this is close as I'm 
likely to get to capturing the legendary cormorant in pixels.  But, ya 
does whatcha can with whatcha got.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5218548484/

K-x, DA L 18-55mm, f/4.5, ISO 400, 1/40, Aperture Priority

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Possible great deal!

2010-11-29 Thread Walter Gilbert
 Well, I would love to get this myself as it strikes me as another 
can't-miss deal.  Unfortunately, I'm strapped and already put the money 
I could used toward my M-50/2.  But, I figured someone on the list might 
be interested.


http://www.upillar.com/listings/185137-new-ununsed-pentax-a3000-body-and-several-pentax-lenses

*Several* Pentax lenses, and an A3000 body (supposedly never used) for 
$75.00


(sob!)

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Re: Mark's Platinum Printing Workshop Report

2010-11-29 Thread mike wilson

Mark Roberts wrote:

http://enticingthelight.com/2010/11/27/platinum-printing-workshop-at-the-george-eastman-house-a-report/



Now also on TOP, albeit in a shorter, less idiosyncratically-written
version:
http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2010/11/workshops-at-geh.html

The TOP  article was supposed to come out last week and I asked
Miserere to hold off the version on his web site until weekend. But
the TOP article ran late -- those who know Mike J. won't be much
surprised ;-)


Anyone else still waiting for their book from him?

Actually, maybe it's me.  I'm still wating for books from others, too.

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Re: Possible great deal!

2010-11-29 Thread Walter Gilbert

 And another:

http://www.upillar.com/listings/155196-pentax-mg-slr-camera-and-lenses

Pentax MG SLR Camera comes with Pentax 50mm lens, 70-210mm Telephoto 
lens, 2X Teleconverter, and red filter for the 50mm lens.  The camera is 
in perfect working condition. Will ship; buyer pays actual shipping via 
USPS.


(sob!)

On 11/29/2010 12:02 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote:
 Well, I would love to get this myself as it strikes me as another 
can't-miss deal.  Unfortunately, I'm strapped and already put the 
money I could used toward my M-50/2.  But, I figured someone on the 
list might be interested.


http://www.upillar.com/listings/185137-new-ununsed-pentax-a3000-body-and-several-pentax-lenses 



*Several* Pentax lenses, and an A3000 body (supposedly never used) for 
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Re: Possible great deal!

2010-11-29 Thread eckinator
dang... I'd love to get that but upillar is for US residents only
could someone handle that for me?
calling first dibs
thanks
ecke

2010/11/29 Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com:
  Well, I would love to get this myself as it strikes me as another
 can't-miss deal.  Unfortunately, I'm strapped and already put the money I
 could used toward my M-50/2.  But, I figured someone on the list might be
 interested.

 http://www.upillar.com/listings/185137-new-ununsed-pentax-a3000-body-and-several-pentax-lenses

 *Several* Pentax lenses, and an A3000 body (supposedly never used) for
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 (sob!)

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Re: Possible great deal!

2010-11-29 Thread Walter Gilbert

 And yet another: (sob!!!)

OK ... this'll be my last one, so as not to annoy.

http://www.upillar.com/listings/120905-pentax-k1000-bundle


Pentax K-1000 Camera and lots of accessories. The camera body has NO 
scratches or dents. Very little wear on exterior. First $100 CASH only, 
takes all this home.


1- K-1000 camera body
1- 500mm lens mirror lens 1:8.0 Quantaray w/case. This lens has filters 
with it also. Original cost

$232.00. I have the receipt.
1- 135mm lens 1:2.8f lens JC Penney.
1- 50mm lens 1:2 Pentax.
1- 2x tele converter lens w/case.
1- strobe PC Penney. Just installed new batteries.
1- clear filter for the 135mm or 50mm lens.
1- original (OEM) neck strap, never used. (did anyone ever use these?)

1- original Asahi Pentax K-1000 users manual, in very good condition
1- camera bag, green/brown.

On 11/29/2010 12:02 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote:
 Well, I would love to get this myself as it strikes me as another 
can't-miss deal.  Unfortunately, I'm strapped and already put the 
money I could used toward my M-50/2.  But, I figured someone on the 
list might be interested.


http://www.upillar.com/listings/185137-new-ununsed-pentax-a3000-body-and-several-pentax-lenses 



*Several* Pentax lenses, and an A3000 body (supposedly never used) for 
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(sob!)

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RE: PESO- Eiffel Tower

2010-11-29 Thread Bob W
  From my trip to Paris earlier this month, two views of the 
 Eiffel Tower:
  
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12017412
  
  and, for detail,
  
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12017411
  
  (K7, DA 16-45, ISO 1600, handheld)
  
  It is an utterly amazing structure.
  
 
 Very pretty!  I like 'em.
 
 I would love to see this building again.  Haven't been there 
 since... 1972.

it's grown a lot since then - you'd hardly recognise it.

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Re: PESO- Eiffel Tower

2010-11-29 Thread David J Brooks
Enjoyed looking at both Rick, but the detail shot is nice. Well lit
and good detail to look at.

Dave

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 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12017412

 and, for detail,

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12017411

 (K7, DA 16-45, ISO 1600, handheld)

 It is an utterly amazing structure.

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Re: PESO: Cormor-Ain't

2010-11-29 Thread David J Brooks
If only our Canadian Geese looked like that.

Dave

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  Hi all,

 Just wanted to share a whimsical little shot I took at the Razorback gift
 shop in Eureka Springs.  Given my whereabouts, this is close as I'm likely
 to get to capturing the legendary cormorant in pixels.  But, ya does whatcha
 can with whatcha got.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5218548484/

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Re: Two more PESOs from Boris

2010-11-29 Thread David J Brooks
The empty street is well done. Great lighting

Dave

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 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-55-ice-cream.html and
 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-56-empty-street.html

 Be brutal and honest.

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Re: GESO - Mini Sydney PDML

2010-11-29 Thread David J Brooks
The sail ing ship one is very nice.

Dave

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Re: White Balance on K-7

2010-11-29 Thread Igor Roshchin

Mon Nov 29 09:52:30 CST 2010
P N Stenquist wrote:

 On Nov 29, 2010, at 10:39 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:
 
  
  Hi All,
  
  While shooting an argentine tango performance over the weekend 
  I set the WB of my K-7 to Tungsten light.
  I was surprised to see that while ~80% of shots were with about the
  right
  color, some considerable number of shots had a distinctive.
  It was not as red as it would have been if I left the WB to be on
  Auto,
  but still yellow.
  
  All the shots were taken under the same condition: in the same room, 
  from the same point, with no light changing, just the couple moving.
  More over,- some series of shots were made with the the couple in
  place ,- 
  and some have the WB alright, and some - are yellow.
  
  Has anybody experienced anything of this sort?
  What could be the reason (besides some malfunction of the camera)?
 
 What fills the frame affects white balance. If the dancers were blocking
 some of the light on some shots and more fully lit on others, you'll get
 some variation of color temp. Easy enough to correct during conversion.
 Paul
 

Paul, 

Yes, that could do it in principle, but it doesn't make sense in the
current situation. Since I _fixed_ the WB to a particular setting,
very slight changes shouldn't affect the WB.

To better illustrate what I observe, - let me show you this image:
http://komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Mixed-2010/WB-problem-2010-11-27.jpg

No WB or exposure settings were changed in this sequence.
These photos were not modified.
 
Yes, one can correct the WB, but it is not how it should work, isn't it?

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Pentax 17-70 repair -- on PARTS HOLD

2010-11-29 Thread Igor Roshchin

Earlier this month, I sent my 17-70/4 zoom for repair (while it was still
under warranty, - before the end of the 1st year).
It had problems focusing on the long end of the focal length, -
AF (and I couldn't get the focus confirmation when focusing manually).

I just spoke with the service center, and they told me that
they are waiting for the parts (the circuit board), and Pentax
has no ETA for its arrival.
I also spoke with the Pentax Support, but they haven't given any
estimates either.

1. I wonder what is happening with PEntax that they don't have even ETA
for their parts.

2. I wonder if this problem (or more likely, - the absence of the
circuit boards) can be related to the infamous SDM problem.

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Re: White Balance on K-7

2010-11-29 Thread P N Stenquist

On Nov 29, 2010, at 1:57 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

 
 Mon Nov 29 09:52:30 CST 2010
 P N Stenquist wrote:
 
 On Nov 29, 2010, at 10:39 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:
 
 
 Hi All,
 
 While shooting an argentine tango performance over the weekend 
 I set the WB of my K-7 to Tungsten light.
 I was surprised to see that while ~80% of shots were with about the
 right
 color, some considerable number of shots had a distinctive.
 It was not as red as it would have been if I left the WB to be on
 Auto,
 but still yellow.
 
 All the shots were taken under the same condition: in the same room, 
 from the same point, with no light changing, just the couple moving.
 More over,- some series of shots were made with the the couple in
 place ,- 
 and some have the WB alright, and some - are yellow.
 
 Has anybody experienced anything of this sort?
 What could be the reason (besides some malfunction of the camera)?
 
 What fills the frame affects white balance. If the dancers were blocking
 some of the light on some shots and more fully lit on others, you'll get
 some variation of color temp. Easy enough to correct during conversion.
 Paul
 
 
 Paul, 
 
 Yes, that could do it in principle, but it doesn't make sense in the
 current situation. Since I _fixed_ the WB to a particular setting,
 very slight changes shouldn't affect the WB.
 
 To better illustrate what I observe, - let me show you this image:
 http://komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Mixed-2010/WB-problem-2010-11-27.jpg
 
 No WB or exposure settings were changed in this sequence.
 These photos were not modified.
 
 Yes, one can correct the WB, but it is not how it should work, isn't it?
 
 Igor
 
You're right. Something is out of whack here. I never shoot anything expect AWB 
and RAW, so I can't tell you if my camera shares this problem. When I have 
time, I'll give it a try under some tungsten lighting.
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Re: White Balance on K-7

2010-11-29 Thread Bob Sullivan
Shooting RAW and AWB I know the colors will shade differently in the
same light as composition changes.
The Synch function in lightroom is your friend in such cases.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:

 Mon Nov 29 09:52:30 CST 2010
 P N Stenquist wrote:

 On Nov 29, 2010, at 10:39 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

 
  Hi All,
 
  While shooting an argentine tango performance over the weekend
  I set the WB of my K-7 to Tungsten light.
  I was surprised to see that while ~80% of shots were with about the
  right
  color, some considerable number of shots had a distinctive.
  It was not as red as it would have been if I left the WB to be on
  Auto,
  but still yellow.
 
  All the shots were taken under the same condition: in the same room,
  from the same point, with no light changing, just the couple moving.
  More over,- some series of shots were made with the the couple in
  place ,-
  and some have the WB alright, and some - are yellow.
 
  Has anybody experienced anything of this sort?
  What could be the reason (besides some malfunction of the camera)?

 What fills the frame affects white balance. If the dancers were blocking
 some of the light on some shots and more fully lit on others, you'll get
 some variation of color temp. Easy enough to correct during conversion.
 Paul


 Paul,

 Yes, that could do it in principle, but it doesn't make sense in the
 current situation. Since I _fixed_ the WB to a particular setting,
 very slight changes shouldn't affect the WB.

 To better illustrate what I observe, - let me show you this image:
 http://komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Mixed-2010/WB-problem-2010-11-27.jpg

 No WB or exposure settings were changed in this sequence.
 These photos were not modified.

 Yes, one can correct the WB, but it is not how it should work, isn't it?

 Igor


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Re: Private - Northern Indiana

2010-11-29 Thread Miserere
Yeah Bob, quite the fail :-D

I lived in South Bend for a year and remember the lake-effect snow.
Not fondly, mind you. Maybe it's psychological but Boston feels less
cold.



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 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 09:18:04AM -0600, Bob Sullivan wrote:
 M,
 Just teasing you.
 Northern Indiana, even Southbend, is kind of rural compared to Boston.
 And the weather really isn't much colder than Boston (5F at most).
 But SNOW off of the lake replaces rain from the ocean!
 Regards,  Bob S.

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  You're welcome, Bob. I think...
 
 
 
  On 28/11/2010, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
  M,
  Wonderful of you to visit the hinterlands for Thanksgiving!
  Regards,  Bob S.
 
  On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
  As I'm freezing in Northern Indiana, I fully understand why he's
  smiling. Nice framing, Knarf.
 
 
  On 27/11/2010, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
  The first in what I think will become a series:
 
  http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/11/guy-with-big-furry-hat.html
 
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Re: PESO - Barstool Boots

2010-11-29 Thread Miserere
Nice barstool!



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Re: PESO- Eiffel Tower

2010-11-29 Thread Steven Desjardins
The first one looks much better on a monitor (as opposed to a
cellphone).  Good work on getting two great shots from  a heavily
overworked subject.

On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 From my trip to Paris earlier this month, two views of the Eiffel Tower:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12017412

 and, for detail,

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12017411

 (K7, DA 16-45, ISO 1600, handheld)

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Re: White Balance on K-7

2010-11-29 Thread Christine Nielsen
I have experienced the same thing with my k-7!  Here is an example:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028...@n04/sets/72157625120080220/

Two photos, same subject  framing, same WB,  exposure settings.
Correctable in post, but, still odd.

-c

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 Hi All,

 While shooting an argentine tango performance over the weekend
 I set the WB of my K-7 to Tungsten light.
 I was surprised to see that while ~80% of shots were with about the right
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 It was not as red as it would have been if I left the WB to be on Auto,
 but still yellow.

 All the shots were taken under the same condition: in the same room,
 from the same point, with no light changing, just the couple moving.
 More over,- some series of shots were made with the the couple in place ,-
 and some have the WB alright, and some - are yellow.

 Has anybody experienced anything of this sort?
 What could be the reason (besides some malfunction of the camera)?

 Igor

 (Sorry for the duplicated message, - the previous one had a corrupted
 Subject/header)


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Re: Pentax 17-70 repair -- on PARTS HOLD

2010-11-29 Thread Christine Nielsen
I had the same response (no ETA for parts) when I sent my k-7 in for
repair about a year ago.  It needed a new circuit board, too, iirc...
In the end, it took about 6 weeks. (Longer than the length of time I
had owned the camera at that point.)   I hope you have better luck.

-c

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 Earlier this month, I sent my 17-70/4 zoom for repair (while it was still
 under warranty, - before the end of the 1st year).
 It had problems focusing on the long end of the focal length, -
 AF (and I couldn't get the focus confirmation when focusing manually).

 I just spoke with the service center, and they told me that
 they are waiting for the parts (the circuit board), and Pentax
 has no ETA for its arrival.
 I also spoke with the Pentax Support, but they haven't given any
 estimates either.

 1. I wonder what is happening with PEntax that they don't have even ETA
 for their parts.

 2. I wonder if this problem (or more likely, - the absence of the
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Re: White Balance on K-7

2010-11-29 Thread Bob Sullivan
I wonder if some of this isn't connected to flourescent lighting and
the new energy efficient bulbs that are replacing incandescents.  I
wonder if these bulbs flicker at a 60 cycle per second rate and
deliver different color temperatures in different parts of the cycle.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote:
 I have experienced the same thing with my k-7!  Here is an example:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028...@n04/sets/72157625120080220/

 Two photos, same subject  framing, same WB,  exposure settings.
 Correctable in post, but, still odd.

 -c

 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:

 Hi All,

 While shooting an argentine tango performance over the weekend
 I set the WB of my K-7 to Tungsten light.
 I was surprised to see that while ~80% of shots were with about the right
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 It was not as red as it would have been if I left the WB to be on Auto,
 but still yellow.

 All the shots were taken under the same condition: in the same room,
 from the same point, with no light changing, just the couple moving.
 More over,- some series of shots were made with the the couple in place ,-
 and some have the WB alright, and some - are yellow.

 Has anybody experienced anything of this sort?
 What could be the reason (besides some malfunction of the camera)?

 Igor

 (Sorry for the duplicated message, - the previous one had a corrupted
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Re: White Balance on K-7

2010-11-29 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 29, 2010, at 14:38, Bob Sullivan wrote:

 I wonder if some of this isn't connected to flourescent lighting and
 the new energy efficient bulbs that are replacing incandescents.  I
 wonder if these bulbs flicker at a 60 cycle per second rate and
 deliver different color temperatures in different parts of the cycle.

That would be my guess too - that the lighting in the room wasn't truly 
tungsten.

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Re: White Balance on K-7

2010-11-29 Thread Dario Bonazza

Igor Roshchin wrote


While shooting an argentine tango performance over the weekend
I set the WB of my K-7 to Tungsten light.
I was surprised to see that while ~80% of shots were with about the
right
color, some considerable number of shots had a distinctive.
It was not as red as it would have been if I left the WB to be on
Auto,
but still yellow.

All the shots were taken under the same condition: in the same room,
from the same point, with no light changing, just the couple moving.
More over,- some series of shots were made with the the couple in
place ,- and some have the WB alright, and some - are yellow.

Has anybody experienced anything of this sort?
What could be the reason (besides some malfunction of the camera)?


Is [11. WB Adjustable Range] in the [C Custom Setting 2] menu set to 
[Fixed]?


If not, that could explain that behaviour. Don't ask me why one should 
select a given white balance and then allow the camera to change it, but 
Pentax thinks of it as a good idea!


Dario 



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Re: Reuters pix of the year

2010-11-29 Thread Sasha Sobol
Interesting photos, good read.
Thanks.

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On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 On Nov 29, 2010, at 0:17, Tim Bray wrote:

 http://blogs.reuters.com/fullfocus/2010/11/15/best-of-the-year/#a=1

 Worth taking the time to work your way through, I'd say -T


 Great stuff.  And I love how each one has a description from the photographer 
 leading up to the moment of the shot.  It makes the images that much more 
 interesting.

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Re: Pentax 17-70 repair -- on PARTS HOLD

2010-11-29 Thread Ken Waller

Unfortunately not a new phenomenon.
I ran into this years ago when the PZ1P was still current. I needed the film 
advance motor to be replaced. I was told by Pentax repair in Colorado that 
they had no replacement available  had no idea when one was due. After 
waiting a few months I told them to replace the body (it was still under 
warranty) and viola a replacement motor magically found its way into my PZ1P 
!


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org

Subject: Pentax 17-70 repair -- on PARTS HOLD




Earlier this month, I sent my 17-70/4 zoom for repair (while it was still
under warranty, - before the end of the 1st year).
It had problems focusing on the long end of the focal length, -
AF (and I couldn't get the focus confirmation when focusing manually).

I just spoke with the service center, and they told me that
they are waiting for the parts (the circuit board), and Pentax
has no ETA for its arrival.
I also spoke with the Pentax Support, but they haven't given any
estimates either.

1. I wonder what is happening with PEntax that they don't have even ETA
for their parts.

2. I wonder if this problem (or more likely, - the absence of the
circuit boards) can be related to the infamous SDM problem.

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Re: PESO - Barstool Boots

2010-11-29 Thread Ken Waller


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- Original Message - 
From: Miserere miser...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: PESO - Barstool Boots



Nice barstool!


I'd knee-d to see more.



On 28/11/2010, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

I thought they looked kinda sexy:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/11/barstool-boots.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
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Re: White Balance on K-7

2010-11-29 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 29, 2010, at 14:46, Dario Bonazza wrote:
 
 Is [11. WB Adjustable Range] in the [C Custom Setting 2] menu set to [Fixed]?
 
 If not, that could explain that behaviour. Don't ask me why one should select 
 a given white balance and then allow the camera to change it, but Pentax 
 thinks of it as a good idea!
 

Isn't this all about being able to fine-tune all of the WB settings?  Not the 
camera doing it, but the user making adjustments.

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Re: White Balance on K-7

2010-11-29 Thread Mark Roberts
Charles Robinson wrote:

On Nov 29, 2010, at 14:38, Bob Sullivan wrote:

 I wonder if some of this isn't connected to flourescent lighting and
 the new energy efficient bulbs that are replacing incandescents.  I
 wonder if these bulbs flicker at a 60 cycle per second rate and
 deliver different color temperatures in different parts of the cycle.

That would be my guess too - that the lighting in the room wasn't truly 
tungsten.

That's the first thing I thought, too: It looks as if the lighting is
running at 60Hz and the shutter is catching it at various points in
the cycle, BUT... the coloration clearly looks like tungsten, which
wouldn't do this. Or shouldn't. Baffling. 


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Re: White Balance on K-7

2010-11-29 Thread Dario Bonazza

Charles Robinson wrote:


On Nov 29, 2010, at 14:46, Dario Bonazza wrote:


Is [11. WB Adjustable Range] in the [C Custom Setting 2] menu set to 
[Fixed]?


If not, that could explain that behaviour. Don't ask me why one should 
select a given white balance and then allow the camera to change it, but 
Pentax thinks of it as a good idea!




Isn't this all about being able to fine-tune all of the WB settings?  Not 
the camera doing it, but the user making adjustments.


K-7 manual, page 192:

The camera automatically performs fine-tuning even when the light source is 
specified. The color temperature of the light source is fixed when [11. WB 
Adjustable Range] in the [C Custom Setting 2]] menu (p.85) is set to 
[Fixed].


AUTOMATICALLY, even when the light source is specified.

Perhaps there are instances where such operation makes sense, but... to me, 
it looks a lot like that mad idea of allowing you to select SEL for AF 
points selector and then reverting back to auto select, which was the 
behaviour of the AF selector before a firmware fix.


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Re: White Balance on K-7

2010-11-29 Thread Dario Bonazza

I wrote:

it looks a lot like that mad idea of allowing you to select SEL for AF 
points selector and then reverting back to auto select, which was the 
behaviour of the AF selector before a firmware fix.


Please read it as:

it looks a lot like that mad idea of allowing you to set the AF points 
selector on SEL (manual selection) and then reverting the arrow keys back to 
functions other than AF point selection all the time (which was the odd 
behaviour of the AF selector before a firmware fix).


Dario


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Re: PESO - Barstool Boots

2010-11-29 Thread Larry Colen (Droid Mail)
Knarf can make even a stool sample look good.

Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:

Nice barstool!



On 28/11/2010, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 I thought they looked kinda sexy:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/11/barstool-boots.html

 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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Re: White Balance on K-7

2010-11-29 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 29, 2010, at 16:00, Dario Bonazza wrote:

 Charles Robinson wrote:
 
 On Nov 29, 2010, at 14:46, Dario Bonazza wrote:
 
 Is [11. WB Adjustable Range] in the [C Custom Setting 2] menu set to 
 [Fixed]?
 
 If not, that could explain that behaviour. Don't ask me why one should 
 select a given white balance and then allow the camera to change it, but 
 Pentax thinks of it as a good idea!
 
 
 Isn't this all about being able to fine-tune all of the WB settings?  Not 
 the camera doing it, but the user making adjustments.
 
 K-7 manual, page 192:
 
 The camera automatically performs fine-tuning even when the light source is 
 specified. The color temperature of the light source is fixed when [11. WB 
 Adjustable Range] in the [C Custom Setting 2]] menu (p.85) is set to [Fixed].
 
 AUTOMATICALLY, even when the light source is specified.
 

Well now, that's just nuts.

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Re: Mark's Platinum Printing Workshop Report

2010-11-29 Thread P. J. Alling

On 11/29/2010 1:05 PM, mike wilson wrote:

Mark Roberts wrote:
http://enticingthelight.com/2010/11/27/platinum-printing-workshop-at-the-george-eastman-house-a-report/ 




Now also on TOP, albeit in a shorter, less idiosyncratically-written
version:
http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2010/11/workshops-at-geh.html 



The TOP  article was supposed to come out last week and I asked
Miserere to hold off the version on his web site until weekend. But
the TOP article ran late -- those who know Mike J. won't be much
surprised ;-)


Anyone else still waiting for their book from him?


I never thought he was reliable enough to order a book.


Actually, maybe it's me.  I'm still wating for books from others, too.




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Re: Possible great deal!

2010-11-29 Thread P. J. Alling
I wouldn't get that excited.  The A3000 was a nice enough camera, but no 
where near the peak of Pentax's camera bodies. 
http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/film_A/A3.html The only lens 
mentioned is a 500mm a cheap mirror tele or third party preset.  Most 
likely the only relatively good lens would be the normal, either an A 
35-70mm zoom or A 50mm f2.0.


On 11/29/2010 1:02 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote:
 Well, I would love to get this myself as it strikes me as another 
can't-miss deal.  Unfortunately, I'm strapped and already put the 
money I could used toward my M-50/2.  But, I figured someone on the 
list might be interested.


http://www.upillar.com/listings/185137-new-ununsed-pentax-a3000-body-and-several-pentax-lenses 



*Several* Pentax lenses, and an A3000 body (supposedly never used) for 
$75.00


(sob!)

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Re: Possible great deal!

2010-11-29 Thread Peter Loveday

You never know, maybe it's a K 500/4.5 :)

- Peter

-Original Message- 
From: P. J. Alling

Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 10:06 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Possible great deal!

I wouldn't get that excited.  The A3000 was a nice enough camera, but no
where near the peak of Pentax's camera bodies.
http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/film_A/A3.html The only lens
mentioned is a 500mm a cheap mirror tele or third party preset.  Most
likely the only relatively good lens would be the normal, either an A
35-70mm zoom or A 50mm f2.0.

On 11/29/2010 1:02 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote:
 Well, I would love to get this myself as it strikes me as another 
can't-miss deal.  Unfortunately, I'm strapped and already put the money I 
could used toward my M-50/2.  But, I figured someone on the list might be 
interested.


http://www.upillar.com/listings/185137-new-ununsed-pentax-a3000-body-and-several-pentax-lenses

*Several* Pentax lenses, and an A3000 body (supposedly never used) for 
$75.00


(sob!)

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RE: Possible great deal!

2010-11-29 Thread J.C. O'Connell
FWIW, I think the a3000 was the first pentax body with
a built-in winder. Exposure mode was automatic
only. It was sort of a point and shoot SLR.

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-Original Message-
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Peter Loveday
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 6:51 PM
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You never know, maybe it's a K 500/4.5 :)

- Peter

-Original Message- 
From: P. J. Alling
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 10:06 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Possible great deal!

I wouldn't get that excited.  The A3000 was a nice enough camera, but no
where near the peak of Pentax's camera bodies.
http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/film_A/A3.html The only lens mentioned
is a 500mm a cheap mirror tele or third party preset.  Most likely the only
relatively good lens would be the normal, either an A 35-70mm zoom or A 50mm
f2.0.

On 11/29/2010 1:02 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote:
  Well, I would love to get this myself as it strikes me as another
 can't-miss deal.  Unfortunately, I'm strapped and already put the money I 
 could used toward my M-50/2.  But, I figured someone on the list might be 
 interested.

 http://www.upillar.com/listings/185137-new-ununsed-pentax-a3000-body-a
 nd-several-pentax-lenses

 *Several* Pentax lenses, and an A3000 body (supposedly never used) for
 $75.00

 (sob!)

 -- Walt





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Lulu.com stuff 25% of today (Was: FS Friday - my IN BLOOM calendar)

2010-11-29 Thread Mark Roberts
Whether you have your own stuff on lulu.com or are looking at Annsan's
or my stuff, it's all 25% off until midnight PST tonight (discount
code CYBER25).

Ann Sanfedele wrote:

http://www.lulu.com/product/calendar/banff-calendar-2011-%28large%29/13851885

http://www.lulu.com/product/calendar/banff-calendar-2011-%28small%29/13851961


Hey -- don't drop the link to mine!  not fair :-)

http://www.lulu.com/product/calendar/in-bloom-calendar/13648674


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Re: Lulu.com stuff 25% of today (Was: FS Friday - my IN BLOOM calendar)

2010-11-29 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Thanks, Mark ,  for sharing that

especially since I hope to get my CRITTERS up there.. tonight... too :-)

ann




Mark Roberts wrote:


Whether you have your own stuff on lulu.com or are looking at Annsan's
or my stuff, it's all 25% off until midnight PST tonight (discount
code CYBER25).

Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 


http://www.lulu.com/product/calendar/banff-calendar-2011-%28large%29/13851885

http://www.lulu.com/product/calendar/banff-calendar-2011-%28small%29/13851961


 


Hey -- don't drop the link to mine!  not fair :-)

http://www.lulu.com/product/calendar/in-bloom-calendar/13648674
   




 






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Re: White Balance on K-7

2010-11-29 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Nov 29, 2010, at 14:24 , Charles Robinson wrote:

 On Nov 29, 2010, at 16:00, Dario Bonazza wrote:
 
 Charles Robinson wrote:
 
 On Nov 29, 2010, at 14:46, Dario Bonazza wrote:
 
 Is [11. WB Adjustable Range] in the [C Custom Setting 2] menu set to 
 [Fixed]?
 
 If not, that could explain that behaviour. Don't ask me why one should 
 select a given white balance and then allow the camera to change it, but 
 Pentax thinks of it as a good idea!
 
 
 Isn't this all about being able to fine-tune all of the WB settings?  Not 
 the camera doing it, but the user making adjustments.
 
 K-7 manual, page 192:
 
 The camera automatically performs fine-tuning even when the light source is 
 specified. The color temperature of the light source is fixed when [11. WB 
 Adjustable Range] in the [C Custom Setting 2]] menu (p.85) is set to 
 [Fixed].
 
 AUTOMATICALLY, even when the light source is specified.
 
 
 Well now, that's just nuts.
 
 -Charles

A. My K-20, and now my K-7 exhibit a similar problem in AWB. And now I know 
why..  Except it seems like the cameras jump to a whole different type of 
light, not just make subtle corrections (see B.)

B. Custom 12) Subtle or Strong variations in AWB or fixed should definitely be 
on Subtle to prevent the very wrong shift in your photos.

C. Dance practice halls I've ever been in have always had overhead fluorescent 
banks of 4 tubes per. Never seen one lit with tungsten. But I'm sure you know 
what you saw. Another checkmark for chimping, at least for starters. In your 
example you would have had to chimp the first 5 or 6 to realize something was 
wrong.

D. Please let us know what you find out abut the session. May give some more 
clues.


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Studio lights in the mezzanine

2010-11-29 Thread Larry Colen
Last year I did the event photography for a lindy hop workshop and dance 
competition:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622962803714/

I've been asked to be the photographer again this year. Maybe it was my skill, 
maybe my price (admission to the workshop), or maybe it's because the person 
who runs it has a K10D. 

What I did last year which worked pretty well was put my strobes up in the 
mezzanine and used a radio trigger.  Unfortunately, when I was doing the setup 
for the event one of my white lightnings let the magic smoke out so I had one 
studio strobe on one side, and all of my camera strobes on the other side of 
the mezzanine.  

I could either use the two strobes without diffusers (the new one is in theory 
3 times the power of the old one, so they'd work as key and fill), run them 
through umbrellas, or reflecting off umbrellas, or possibly try some sort of 
fresnel lens (like the ones you put in the back of RVs) to spread out the beam.

I'm wondering if anybody has any ideas, suggestions or warnings.

PS Igor, I don't suppose I'll run into you and Jane there, will I?  You aren't 
planning on missing any flights next weekend?

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Re: Pentax 17-70 repair -- on PARTS HOLD

2010-11-29 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Nov 29, 2010, at 13:23 , Ken Waller wrote:

 Unfortunately not a new phenomenon.
 I ran into this years ago when the PZ1P was still current. I needed the film 
 advance motor to be replaced. I was told by Pentax repair in Colorado that 
 they had no replacement available  had no idea when one was due. After 
 waiting a few months I told them to replace the body (it was still under 
 warranty) and viola a replacement motor magically found its way into my PZ1P !

Most likely to the frustration of the next PZ-1p in line for some repair work.  
:-)

I've worked as a parts supervisor of a 1970's audio repair facility in 
Framingham, MA. At the bottom of the hill below BOSE on the mountain. When 
the New York office called and told us to find the part somewhere in the 
in-house repairs or unpack a new unit from the warehouse, we knew someone had 
gone up the chain to get action on OUR lousy supply chain. This was back in the 
day when we had over 150 various transistors, bins of resistors, capacitors, 
diodes that we chose from to replace on a failed circuit board, well before 
some bean counters realized it was less expensive to replace the circuit boards 
when you considered man hours wasted on troubleshooting and making a component 
repair on an unit that manufacturing costs were just over the repair costs.

That's why these days you are frequently advised (APPLE, are you listening?) to 
replace a unit out of warranty rather than repair it. At your expense, of 
course. To emphasize that point, they will engineer your unit obsolete in 18 
months anyway.  :-) 


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Re: GESO: Sculpturematic

2010-11-29 Thread Joseph McAllister
I love the long shot, as the sculpture seems to be trying to move the lady 
aside so he can get HIS shot!  :-)

Probably why you tripped the shutter at that moment, I suppose. Good seeing!


On Nov 28, 2010, at 21:02 , Tim Bray wrote:

 There's a big hill near me called Little Mountain. It's got this silly
 sculptural group on top called Photo Session, which has three people
 lined up with a great view behind them, and another person taking
 their picture.  It's from 1984 and silly but works well; approximately
 100% of the tourists who visit here figure out one way or another to
 have a meta-photoshoot in among the piece.  I was up there today and
 took a couple snaps; I thought you ladies and gents might enjoy the
 close-up of the camera.
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbray/sets/72157625364812719/

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BH memory card deal

2010-11-29 Thread John Celio
8gb Class 10 SDHC cards for $12.95 each with free shipping available in
the US:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlistsku=700166AID=10603278PID=3668349is=REGA=detailsQ=
or
http://goo.gl/7FkB9

I ordered a couple.  Pretty good deal, I think.

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PESO: 'Topsy Turvey'

2010-11-29 Thread kwaller
Taken over the East Bay at Traverse City, Michigan during the Blue Angel's 
practice for their Cherry Festival show over the July 4th holiday..


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12022380

K20D, 300mm f4.5 FA - 1/1000, f7.1, 400 ISO - handheld

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Re: Pentax 17-70 repair -- on PARTS HOLD

2010-11-29 Thread steve harley

On 2010-11-29 17:31 , Joseph McAllister wrote:

Most likely to the frustration of the next PZ-1p in line for some repair work.


eleven years ago i bought a Bosch washer and dryer that i had noticed 
unmarked in a back room at an appliance store; at first the manager 
wasn't sure whether he could sell them; finally he decided he could and 
he gave me a great price


once delivered, the washer wouldn't power up; the seller came and took a 
look and was puzzled; so he called in a professional who quickly 
discovered the main logic board was missing, and called the seller; 
someone on the seller's staff suddenly remembered why they were sitting 
in that back room -- the logic board had been cannibalized to repair 
another unit ...


(been working perfectly ever since)

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Re: PESO: 'Topsy Turvey'

2010-11-29 Thread paul stenquist
Well done. A dramatic shot. Why did we have to wait so long to see it:-).
Paul

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 Taken over the East Bay at Traverse City, Michigan during the Blue Angel's 
 practice for their Cherry Festival show over the July 4th holiday..
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12022380
 
 K20D, 300mm f4.5 FA - 1/1000, f7.1, 400 ISO - handheld
 
 Comments appreciated
 
 
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Re: White Balance on K-7

2010-11-29 Thread Miserere
I'm pretty sure it's what Dario is saying. When I received the K-5
last week the first thing I did was go through the Custom menu and
change stuff like this. I don't understand why the default setting is
to allow the camera to change WB when on AutoWB, but it is.



On 29/11/2010, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:
 Charles Robinson wrote:

 On Nov 29, 2010, at 14:46, Dario Bonazza wrote:

 Is [11. WB Adjustable Range] in the [C Custom Setting 2] menu set to
 [Fixed]?

 If not, that could explain that behaviour. Don't ask me why one should
 select a given white balance and then allow the camera to change it, but
 Pentax thinks of it as a good idea!


 Isn't this all about being able to fine-tune all of the WB settings?  Not
 the camera doing it, but the user making adjustments.

 K-7 manual, page 192:

 The camera automatically performs fine-tuning even when the light source is
 specified. The color temperature of the light source is fixed when [11. WB
 Adjustable Range] in the [C Custom Setting 2]] menu (p.85) is set to
 [Fixed].

 AUTOMATICALLY, even when the light source is specified.

 Perhaps there are instances where such operation makes sense, but... to me,
 it looks a lot like that mad idea of allowing you to select SEL for AF
 points selector and then reverting back to auto select, which was the
 behaviour of the AF selector before a firmware fix.

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Peso: Standing Birds

2010-11-29 Thread Steven Desjardins
http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=viewcurrent=birds1.jpg

K7, FA20-35 (one of the last, at 35mm), nothing but resized.
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Re: Studio lights in the mezzanine

2010-11-29 Thread David Parsons
I probably wouldn't use an umbrella, but if I did, I'd use
shoot-through rather than bounce (personal preference mostly).  It'll
make the light bigger, but also eat a stop or two of your light.
Depending on how high that mezzanine is, the light won't be any softer
due to the distance.

A fresnel is going to focus the light rather than disperse it.  It'd
end up being like a Better Beamer.  If you want to spread out the
light, a large sheet hung up in front of the light will create a much
larger light source than an umbrella and a much softer light.  It's
hard to tell from your pictures, but if the ceiling is white, you
could try bouncing off the ceiling for very soft, even light, with one
light in the mezzanine for key, and maybe a flash on camera for a
little bit of fill.

With two lights, you could easily have them pointing toward the
opposite side of the floor against each other.  That way, the lights
will make key/fill based on where they are on the floor, and you can
keep them the same power.

The pictures in your link look pretty good to me, you seem to have a
pretty good handle so far.

 I could either use the two strobes without diffusers (the new one is in 
 theory 3 times the power of the old one, so they'd work as key and fill), run 
 them through umbrellas, or reflecting off umbrellas, or possibly try some 
 sort of fresnel lens (like the ones you put in the back of RVs) to spread out 
 the beam.

 I'm wondering if anybody has any ideas, suggestions or warnings.

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Re: PESO -- Moon over Newport

2010-11-29 Thread Steven Desjardins
Brings back memories.  I'm from Fall River (about 20 miles south) and
Debbie and I did much courting in Newport during our teens.

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Well seen and nicely composed, Peter. As you wrote, both a wider lens and 
 tripod could have been put to good use.

 Jack


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 From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
 Subject: PESO -- Moon over Newport
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, November 28, 2010, 8:47 PM
 Went to Newport RI last evening to
 wander the pubs and nightclubs.  I took the K20d and a
 few small(ish), fast primes.  I really wish I had a
 tripod for this shot but you use what you've got..  As
 long as I'm wishing I had a tripod I might as well wish I
 had a slightly wider lens.

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20moonovernewport.html

 Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax A 24mm f2.8.

 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

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Re: BH memory card deal

2010-11-29 Thread paul stenquist
Thanks for the tip. Can't beat that price. I ordered two.
Paul

On Nov 29, 2010, at 7:36 PM, John Celio wrote:

 8gb Class 10 SDHC cards for $12.95 each with free shipping available in
 the US:
 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlistsku=700166AID=10603278PID=3668349is=REGA=detailsQ=
 or
 http://goo.gl/7FkB9
 
 I ordered a couple.  Pretty good deal, I think.
 
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Re: White Balance on K-7

2010-11-29 Thread John Sessoms

From: Igor Roshchin


Yes, that could do it in principle, but it doesn't make sense in the
current situation. Since I _fixed_ the WB to a particular setting,
very slight changes shouldn't affect the WB.

To better illustrate what I observe, - let me show you this image:
http://komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Mixed-2010/WB-problem-2010-11-27.jpg

No WB or exposure settings were changed in this sequence.
These photos were not modified.

Yes, one can correct the WB, but it is not how it should work, isn't it?



My $0.02 ...

It looks like the series were shot with daylight WB, and that in a few 
instances (the ones that are not yellow) you caught the room while it 
was illuminated by someone else's flash (or someone's flash went off 
while your shutter was open).


Not saying that's what it is, just that it looks like that to me.

I can easily get that yellow cast by shooting with daylight WB under 
mixed tungsten  fluorescent light.


And the ones that are not yellow look like daylight WB  flash.

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Re: PESO: 'Topsy Turvey'

2010-11-29 Thread Walter Gilbert
 Boy, does that bring back some childhood memories.  I pretty much grew 
up on naval bases and got to see those guys fairly regularly.  It's one 
of the more thrilling spectacles I've ever seen.


And, a great shot of the action besides.  It certainly makes me wish I'd 
been there.


-- Walt

On 11/29/2010 6:40 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
Taken over the East Bay at Traverse City, Michigan during the Blue 
Angel's practice for their Cherry Festival show over the July 4th 
holiday..


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12022380

K20D, 300mm f4.5 FA - 1/1000, f7.1, 400 ISO - handheld

Comments appreciated


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Re: BH memory card deal

2010-11-29 Thread Jim King
John Celio wrote on Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:36:48 -0800

 8gb Class 10 SDHC cards for $12.95 each with free shipping available in
 the US:
 
 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlistsku=700166AID=10603278PID=3668349is=REGA=detailsQ=
 
 or
 
 http://goo.gl/7FkB9
 
 
 I ordered a couple.  Pretty good deal, I think.

Darn! I saw your message after dinner, tried to order two cards, and found that 
BH was out of stock.  If you snooze, you lose...

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Re: BH memory card deal

2010-11-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Place order and they should fulfill it at the special price.

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Jim King jamesk8...@mac.com wrote:
 John Celio wrote on Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:36:48 -0800

 8gb Class 10 SDHC cards for $12.95 each with free shipping available in
 the US:

 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlistsku=700166AID=10603278PID=3668349is=REGA=detailsQ=

 or

 http://goo.gl/7FkB9


 I ordered a couple.  Pretty good deal, I think.

 Darn! I saw your message after dinner, tried to order two cards, and found 
 that BH was out of stock.  If you snooze, you lose...

 Regards, Jim


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Re: Possible great deal!

2010-11-29 Thread John Sessoms

From: P. J. Alling


I wouldn't get that excited.  The A3000 was a nice enough camera, but no
where near the peak of Pentax's camera bodies.
http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/film_A/A3.html The only lens
mentioned is a 500mm a cheap mirror tele or third party preset.  Most
likely the only relatively good lens would be the normal, either an A
35-70mm zoom or A 50mm f2.0.


I had an A3000 for about 3 months before replacing it with a K1000. 
Whoever called it a point 'n shoot SLR got it pretty much right.


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Re: BH memory card deal

2010-11-29 Thread Steven Desjardins
Amazon has them as well:

http://www.amazon.com/Transcend-Class-Flash-Memory-TS8GSDHC6/dp/B000P9ZBFA/ref=pd_rhf_shvl_4

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
 Place order and they should fulfill it at the special price.

 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Jim King jamesk8...@mac.com wrote:
 John Celio wrote on Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:36:48 -0800

 8gb Class 10 SDHC cards for $12.95 each with free shipping available in
 the US:

 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlistsku=700166AID=10603278PID=3668349is=REGA=detailsQ=

 or

 http://goo.gl/7FkB9


 I ordered a couple.  Pretty good deal, I think.

 Darn! I saw your message after dinner, tried to order two cards, and found 
 that BH was out of stock.  If you snooze, you lose...

 Regards, Jim


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Re: PESO: 'Topsy Turvey'

2010-11-29 Thread Bob Sullivan
Ken,
That's a nice catch and a move I don't remember from shows.
I have some difficulties figure out exactly where the planes are in
relation to one another.
I would guess a diamond formation, but the tailsof #2 and #1
(inverted) look overlapped!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 6:40 PM,  kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 Taken over the East Bay at Traverse City, Michigan during the Blue Angel's
 practice for their Cherry Festival show over the July 4th holiday..

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12022380

 K20D, 300mm f4.5 FA - 1/1000, f7.1, 400 ISO - handheld

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Re: BH memory card deal

2010-11-29 Thread Jim King
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote on Mon, 29 Nov 2010 17:55:28 -0800

 Place order and they should fulfill it at the special price.
 
 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Jim King jamesk8...@mac.com wrote:
  John Celio wrote on Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:36:48 -0800
 
  8gb Class 10 SDHC cards for $12.95 each with free shipping available in
  the US:
 
  
 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlistsku=700166AID=10603278PID=3668349is=REGA=detailsQ=
  or
 http://goo.gl/7FkB9
 
  I ordered a couple.  Pretty good deal, I think.
 
  Darn! I saw your message after dinner, tried to order two cards, and found 
  that BH was out of stock.  If you snooze, you lose...
 
I tried to place an order, but they had a popup note posted that only a limited 
number of cards were available at the sale price.  They graciously offered to 
send me a notice when these cards came back into stock - at the original price, 
no doubt...

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OT: For Tit Lovers

2010-11-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://pixdaus.com/single.php?id=270726f=rs

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Re: BH memory card deal

2010-11-29 Thread Jim King
Steven Desjardins wrote on Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:11:49 -0800

 Amazon has them as well:

The Amazon offer is for Class 6 cards and is only 30 cents off their regular 
price; BH was offering Class 10 cards regularly priced about $10 higher.

Oh well, sales come and go; another one will pop up eventually.

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Re: BH memory card deal

2010-11-29 Thread eckinator
2010/11/30 Jim King jamesk8...@mac.com:

 Oh well, sales come and go; another one will pop up eventually.

told myself that about amazon cyber monday, too - everything was gone
within 3 minutes of availability and there were three things I wanted
and one I needed... oh well you win some you lose some =)
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Re: OT: For Tit Lovers

2010-11-29 Thread eckinator
very nice but I don't like them hanging =P
Ecke

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Re: BH memory card deal

2010-11-29 Thread Steven Desjardins
Sorry, I missed that.  I just happened to see it when I was looking for a book.

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Jim King jamesk8...@mac.com wrote:
 Steven Desjardins wrote on Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:11:49 -0800

 Amazon has them as well:

 The Amazon offer is for Class 6 cards and is only 30 cents off their regular 
 price; BH was offering Class 10 cards regularly priced about $10 higher.

 Oh well, sales come and go; another one will pop up eventually.

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Re: PESO - Parsnip, Ginger and Orange Soup

2010-11-29 Thread eckinator
2010/11/25 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com:

 If you get a chance to try some, you'll probably enjoy it.  In fact I
 could send you the recipe off-list if you want.

moi aussi please - oh and I like the photo, especially the
juxtaposition of colors where the green (herbal oil?) sits on/in the
soup
cheers
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