Re: Newbie with DSLR and soon to be an owner of a K-R when it arrives...

2011-02-11 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:27:52PM -0800, Larry Colen wrote:
 
 
 Do you just leave your camera in green mode and autofocus and let it make 
 every decision for you?

Sometimes, yes.  (Well, P mode, not Green mode, but that's pretty close).

 I didn't buy a DSLR because of how well it took photos without my input.
 I took a DSLR because of how well it lets me control it.

I bought a DSLR that was capable of doing routine tasks when I so chose
(just as I bought a SLR that could do that for me; if I wasn't going to
make use of the extra capabilities my good old MX would have sufficed
for anything except shutter speeds faster than 1/1000).

I'll decide when to automate shutter speed, aperture, focus, flash, etc.
But once I've made that decision I let the camera do the boring stuff.
That usually leaves the camera taking care of focus, and adjusting
aperture and/or shutter speed to get the exposure where I want it to be
(after my dialing in whatever exposure compensation I think is needed).
I bought a DSLR because of how well it lets me decide not to control it.


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Re: Newbie with DSLR and soon to be an owner of a K-R when it arrives...

2011-02-11 Thread Larry Colen

On Feb 11, 2011, at 12:00 AM, John Francis wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:27:52PM -0800, Larry Colen wrote:
 
 
 Do you just leave your camera in green mode and autofocus and let it make 
 every decision for you?
 
 Sometimes, yes.  (Well, P mode, not Green mode, but that's pretty close).
 
 I didn't buy a DSLR because of how well it took photos without my input.
 I took a DSLR because of how well it lets me control it.
 
 I bought a DSLR that was capable of doing routine tasks when I so chose
 (just as I bought a SLR that could do that for me; if I wasn't going to
 make use of the extra capabilities my good old MX would have sufficed
 for anything except shutter speeds faster than 1/1000).
 
 I'll decide when to automate shutter speed, aperture, focus, flash, etc.
 But once I've made that decision I let the camera do the boring stuff.
 That usually leaves the camera taking care of focus, and adjusting
 aperture and/or shutter speed to get the exposure where I want it to be
 (after my dialing in whatever exposure compensation I think is needed).
 I bought a DSLR because of how well it lets me decide not to control it.

But John, your answer is sometimes, not always.  Paul asked why you'd use 
an AF540 in manual mode, implying that he'd never take the camera out of auto.

I certainly agree that it is just as important to know when the camera can do a 
better job than you, as it is to be able to effectively control things 
yourself, but the important thing is that it is the photographer making that 
decision.

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Re: Pentax GPS accessory

2011-02-11 Thread Eric Featherstone
On 11 February 2011 00:52, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On Feb 10, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 On 11-02-10 2:34 PM, eckinator wrote:
 maybe it listens for the shutter? =)
 wouldn't it be enough to timesync and then match gps log time and exif
 time in post?

 That's exactly what some of these devices do. They simply record where 
 you've been at some predetermined rate (likely every few seconds). Then back 
 at home, software supplied with the device matches the images' EXIF times 
 with your location log and updates the EXIF.

 So you shouldn't even need to attach the device to the camera really, just 
 carry it in your pocket.

 In that case, it should be fairly straightforward to set up an Android (or 
 iPhone) to record gps data periodically, and go from there.  I tried to see 
 if such a program already existed, but most of what I got was about using the 
 internal camera.

My Tracks

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.google.android.maps.mytracks

I've used this in exactly that way. To combine the tracklog with the
photos I used Jeffrey Fiedl's geoencoding plugin.
http://regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies/gps

Seemed to work just fine.


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Re: Pentax GPS accessory

2011-02-11 Thread Rob Studdert
On 11 February 2011 11:52, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 In that case, it should be fairly straightforward to set up an Android (or 
 iPhone) to record gps data periodically, and go from there.  I tried to see 
 if such a program already existed, but most of what I got was about using the 
 internal camera.

GPSTracker Lite too

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Re: Pentax GPS accessory

2011-02-11 Thread Rob Studdert
On 11 February 2011 11:52, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 In that case, it should be fairly straightforward to set up an Android (or 
 iPhone) to record gps data periodically, and go from there.  I tried to see 
 if such a program already existed, but most of what I got was about using the 
 internal camera.

Try 
http://www.androidzoom.com/android_applications/travel_and_local/gps-logger-for-android_fcxl.html

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Re: Advice solicitation for analog shooting

2011-02-11 Thread Thibouille
Hey that's funny, John.
I didn't know KM and K1000 was 'Full frame' metering instead of CWA,
as I assumed.

Interesting :) Learnt something.

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Re: Advice solicitation for analog shooting

2011-02-11 Thread Thibouille
Walter, about those metering and mid gray things.

A simple but very effective thing our teacher asked us:
Take a pic of a white object (like sheets of paper), a gray object and
a black object.
To stay simple, the three objects will have about the same color (gray
of course).

This is simple and clearly nails the problem. A built-in meter (and
any meter used in reflective metering), even how modern it is, is
always influenced by color and reflection power of the metered object.

2011/2/10 Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com:
   Thanks for the explanation, Collin.

 When Paul said to overexpose, I was actually thinking it sounded
 counter-intuitive -- that you'd want to under-expose in a snowy situation.
  But, it makes sense now that you explained that the meter assumes a
 neutral grey.

 So, I'm assuming that in extra-low-light situations, I'd want to
 under-expose by a couple of stops in that case.

 Glad I found this out before getting too deep into the roll!

 -- Walt

 On 2/9/2011 8:40 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:

 No!!!   Always overexpose snow by 2 stops.

 Why?
 Because an averaging meter expects a mid-gray tone.
 The result will be gray snow unless you open it up,
 either with the shutter, aperture, or both.
 You can also change to iso32.


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Re: BH photo android app

2011-02-11 Thread Rob Studdert
On 11 February 2011 07:13, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Saw the BH solicitation for that app. Can't imagine why I would want to shop 
 for equipment on my phone, other than to jack up my phone bill.

I do a heck of a lot of Internet related things on my phone that I
wouldn't have dreamt of before. Everywhere I spend time and use the
net heavily I generally have a WiFi connection available so I don't
use the phone service data except when I'm mobile and then I've never
got close to my monthly DL limit (1GB). I just checked and I'm at 4%
for this month.

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Re: PESO: The Wire Welder

2011-02-11 Thread Rob Studdert
On 10 February 2011 08:55, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Received my Priority Mail package in only 10 days (from Ohio to
 Nebraska). Whoo-Hoo!
 This is a high-ISO K-x shot taken through the new-to-me Tamron SP 52BB
 500mm f/8 adaptall2. (Thanks Collin!)
 http://www.pixelsmithy.com/the-welder-test-of-tamron-sp-52bb-500mm-f8-ad

A very nice industrial shot, you've made the most of the light.

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Re: Pentax GPS accessory

2011-02-11 Thread Larry Colen

On Feb 11, 2011, at 12:17 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote:
 I've used this in exactly that way. To combine the tracklog with the
 photos I used Jeffrey Fiedl's geoencoding plugin.
 http://regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies/gps
 
 Seemed to work just fine.

That's awesome.  I already use a couple of his plugins and am very favorably 
impressed by them.  Thanks for the pointer.


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Re: Pentax GPS accessory

2011-02-11 Thread eckinator
I just read in a post about system-on-chip based smart phones that gps
activation is usually restricted to the higher power levels meaning a
lot of other modules are also forcibly enabled and eating battery
power. my motorola defy by way of example will not acquire first fix
w/o the wwan module enabled, i.e. not in flight mode. strangely, once
ff was taken, flight mode will work. or so the forums have it... and
they also say standby life with gps is under 8 hours as opposed to
just under 10 days w/o gps in lab or 6 days in real life conditions.
my old bt gps mouse and (now dead) hp hx4700 did much better logging
data in tinystocks navio over the bt link... not good

2011/2/11, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com:
 On 11 February 2011 11:52, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 In that case, it should be fairly straightforward to set up an Android (or
 iPhone) to record gps data periodically, and go from there.  I tried to
 see if such a program already existed, but most of what I got was about
 using the internal camera.

 GPSTracker Lite too

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Re: Pentax GPS accessory

2011-02-11 Thread Thibouille
Ecke, this is exactly why I bought a 'real' gps (a Garmin GPsMap 60cx).
It is not that much more expensive and it can be used a gps in car,
trekking or cycling.

It logs for 18 hours on two AA alkalines.

2011/2/11 eckinator eckina...@gmail.com:
 I just read in a post about system-on-chip based smart phones that gps
 activation is usually restricted to the higher power levels meaning a
 lot of other modules are also forcibly enabled and eating battery
 power. my motorola defy by way of example will not acquire first fix
 w/o the wwan module enabled, i.e. not in flight mode. strangely, once
 ff was taken, flight mode will work. or so the forums have it... and
 they also say standby life with gps is under 8 hours as opposed to
 just under 10 days w/o gps in lab or 6 days in real life conditions.
 my old bt gps mouse and (now dead) hp hx4700 did much better logging
 data in tinystocks navio over the bt link... not good

 2011/2/11, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com:
 On 11 February 2011 11:52, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 In that case, it should be fairly straightforward to set up an Android (or
 iPhone) to record gps data periodically, and go from there.  I tried to
 see if such a program already existed, but most of what I got was about
 using the internal camera.

 GPSTracker Lite too

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Question about Metz 45CL4 (analog one, not the recent digital version) and SCA adapters

2011-02-11 Thread Thibouille
I should receive my 45CL4 any day now.
I bought it for my C330 but intend to use it with my K7/SuperA/KX/MX
as well since I have it anyway.

The question is: would there be a significant difference when using it
with SCA adaters between 372 and 3702 adapters?
AFAIK current Pentax DSLRs still support the old analog signaling
although plain TTL isn't supported anymore.
In that case, IMO, 3702 would add exactly nothing. But I'm not sure so...

Anyone knows more than I do ?

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Re: Newbie with DSLR and soon to be an owner of a K-R when it arrives...

2011-02-11 Thread Cotty
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Hum, okay?

Okay.

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Re: Pentax GPS accessory

2011-02-11 Thread eckinator
yep that is what I have my eTrex Legend for - it upsets me somewhat
though that the Oregon was announced just a few days after I bought
mine and that once again just recently when I had to buy a smartphone
the Garmin-Asus nüvifone A50 had just become unavailable from my
cellular provider. free Garmin nav with lifetime nümaps for a device
costing 35% less than the Defy would have been just too nice even with
a 320x480 display as opposed to the Defy's ruggedized 854x480.

then again I've thus far been too lazy to log with the eTrex and too
conservative about (and wary of) exposing my wherewhenabouts on the
iNet so I've yet to find use for it for myself - I practically never
have time to reshoot, I don't offer anything location based that will
earn me a single cent, and quite frankly these days I don't take many
pictures, my DAD (Duplo A Day) tilt/shift architecture project is
still on ground, my photography is overwhelmingly listless and
underwhelmingly uninspired.

but hey maybe taking a bookworthy pic for the annual could be a source
of appetite

I'll try my bloody hardest. Duplo, anyone?

2011/2/11, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com:
 Ecke, this is exactly why I bought a 'real' gps (a Garmin GPsMap 60cx).
 It is not that much more expensive and it can be used a gps in car,
 trekking or cycling.

 It logs for 18 hours on two AA alkalines.

 2011/2/11 eckinator eckina...@gmail.com:
 I just read in a post about system-on-chip based smart phones that gps
 activation is usually restricted to the higher power levels meaning a
 lot of other modules are also forcibly enabled and eating battery
 power. my motorola defy by way of example will not acquire first fix
 w/o the wwan module enabled, i.e. not in flight mode. strangely, once
 ff was taken, flight mode will work. or so the forums have it... and
 they also say standby life with gps is under 8 hours as opposed to
 just under 10 days w/o gps in lab or 6 days in real life conditions.
 my old bt gps mouse and (now dead) hp hx4700 did much better logging
 data in tinystocks navio over the bt link... not good

 2011/2/11, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com:
 On 11 February 2011 11:52, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 In that case, it should be fairly straightforward to set up an Android
 (or
 iPhone) to record gps data periodically, and go from there.  I tried to
 see if such a program already existed, but most of what I got was about
 using the internal camera.

 GPSTracker Lite too

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Re: Question about Metz 45CL4 (analog one, not the recent digital version) and SCA adapters

2011-02-11 Thread eckinator
No but I'd be interested to find out as I still have a 45CT5 kicking
around from my Canon days and it is a mighty fine flash
Cheers
Ecke

2011/2/11, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com:
 I should receive my 45CL4 any day now.
 I bought it for my C330 but intend to use it with my K7/SuperA/KX/MX
 as well since I have it anyway.

 The question is: would there be a significant difference when using it
 with SCA adaters between 372 and 3702 adapters?
 AFAIK current Pentax DSLRs still support the old analog signaling
 although plain TTL isn't supported anymore.
 In that case, IMO, 3702 would add exactly nothing. But I'm not sure so...

 Anyone knows more than I do ?

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Re: Newbie with DSLR and soon to be an owner of a K-R when it arrives...

2011-02-11 Thread eckinator
welcome, Jeffery, missed the thread thus far, will read up. PDML is a
nice bunch of people as long as you heed the usual advice to never
take advice from Cotty, our 12 year old poohstick expert ]=)

2011/2/11, Cotty cotty...@mac.com:
 On 10/2/11, Jeffery Johnson, discombobulated, unleashed:

Hum, okay?

 Okay.

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Re: Semi-OT Photoshop Rant!

2011-02-11 Thread Igor Roshchin


Thu Feb 10 23:58:33 CST 2011
mike wilson wrote:

 On 10/02/2011 15:06, Igor Roshchin wrote:
 
  That's great!
 
  That's basically what they say in the books about
  scientific/engineering
  writing. The very first thing a writer has to recognize are these
  three factors: audience, purpose, and occasion.
  The first, audience, defines what do they know?, why are they
  reading?, what expectations (and biases?) they have?
  The second, purpose, can be to perform or to persuade.
  The last one, occasion, defines things like format, formality,
  deadlines, politics, etc.
  From these considerations, the questions and the rationale you listed
  follow.
 
  I was teaching this material to physics major senior students just a
  week ago in my course The Art of Scientific Communication.
  If anyone is interested in reading, - I have a list of a few good
  books
  that discuss these and related topics in detail in a rather clear
  language:
  http://www.worldcat.org/profiles/roshchin/lists/1723072
 
 I can add this book to your list.
 http://www.amazon.com/Scientists-Must-Write-Engineers-Routledge/dp/0415269962
 

Thank you! It looks like an interesting book.
I just requested it from our local library to take a look at it.

Igor

 

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Re: Newbie with DSLR and soon to be an owner of a K-R when it arrives...

2011-02-11 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Feb 11, 2011, at 1:27 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

 
 On Feb 10, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
 
 On Feb 10, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
 
 
 
 The good news is that the metering on the K-r is good enough that TTL flash 
 is actually useful.  The bad news is that the AF540 is damn near useless as 
 a manual flash.  Keep your eyes open for cheap manual flashes, but watch 
 the trigger voltage and make sure it isn't so high that it'll fry your 
 camera.
 
 TTL flashes don't work on the K-r, or any of the other recent Pentax DSLRs.
 
 Mea culpa, I mentally translated TTL to P-TTL, just treating it as Through 
 The Lens metering in general.
 
 
 
 The AF540 is a good flash. It's P-TTL, which is the Pentax auto format. Why 
 would you want to use it in manual mode. 
 
 So far, I've found three reasons to use my AF540 in manual mode, My 
 K100Dsuper, my K20D, and to a lesser extent my K-x.  Frankly, in my 
 experience, Pentax flash metering technology lies somewhere between useless 
 and destructive. Granted, it has improved a lot lately, and I have actually 
 found several situations with the K-x that using p-ttl with the AF-540 has 
 led to photos with nearly acceptable exposure. But, even if p-ttl were to 
 work perfectly the question of why I would want full control of any piece of 
 photographic equipment stuns me from a photographer of your ability?  Do you 
 just leave your camera in green mode and autofocus and let it make every 
 decision for you? I didn't buy a DSLR because of how well it took photos 
 without my input, I took a DSLR because of how well it lets me control it.
 

I can exercise much more control over the P-ttl 540 flash than I ever could 
over a manual flash. I can dial in exposure comp, plus or minus. I can synch it 
at high speed, and I can tell it to flash trailing the curtain. Now are you 
stunned? Apparently, you didn't know how capable this flash can be.

Yes, Pentax flash technology is far from perfect, and the 540 doesn't always 
work in complete harmony with the cameras. But I've found it's very accurate 
with the K-5. It was less than perfect with the K20, but I was still able to 
use it very effectively on many occasions. 

I use studio strobes on many occasions, and I've used manual flashes 
extensively for many years. They're very limiting. At a given distance, you're 
either locked into an f-stop or forced to resort to diffusion, filtering and 
other means to try to get to the stop you want. Not good. Somewhat useless in 
many situations.

Paul
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OT - 36x optical zoom

2011-02-11 Thread Igor Roshchin


Wow! 36x optical zoom!
I understand, it won't be as crisp as my Pentax DA* 50-135/2.8,
and it is a slow (3.4-5.7) lens, but still...
http://dpreview.com/news/1102/11020909nikonsuperzooms.asp

4mm - 144mm  focal length - that's impressive.

Too bad it is not in K-mount... (or any other mount for that matter).

Igor


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Re: Question about Metz 45CL4 (analog one, not the recent digitalversion) and SCA adapters

2011-02-11 Thread Peter Loveday
Without TTL support, I'm not really sure that it'll give you anything over 
using a stock SCA-301 even, on a 45 series?  I don't have one of these, but 
I have a flock of 60CTs, and really there's little to be gained by any form 
of dedicated SCA with these on non-TTL capable cameras.


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Re: Question about Metz 45CL4 (analog one, not the recent digital version) and SCA adapters

2011-02-11 Thread Thibouille
Thanks both of you.

In theory the SCA372 should bring:
* flash recycle LED in viewfinder when supported
* Auto-commute to X-sync speed when supported
* Plain old TTL (when used with SuperA/Z1)

The 374 (the AF one) or 370x modules *may* provide 2nd curtain sync
(when supported by camera).

I should test my old 240FT and see if the LED lights up in K7
viewfinder and 2nd curtain sync.
Anyway, not sure it brings enough to buy the cables and adapters again
(I sold mine to Boris months ago with a very nice 40MZ2 ;)

X-sync cord will do it IMO :)

2011/2/11 eckinator eckina...@gmail.com:
 No but I'd be interested to find out as I still have a 45CT5 kicking
 around from my Canon days and it is a mighty fine flash
 Cheers
 Ecke

 2011/2/11, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com:
 I should receive my 45CL4 any day now.
 I bought it for my C330 but intend to use it with my K7/SuperA/KX/MX
 as well since I have it anyway.

 The question is: would there be a significant difference when using it
 with SCA adaters between 372 and 3702 adapters?
 AFAIK current Pentax DSLRs still support the old analog signaling
 although plain TTL isn't supported anymore.
 In that case, IMO, 3702 would add exactly nothing. But I'm not sure so...

 Anyone knows more than I do ?

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Re: Red Shoulder Hawks

2011-02-11 Thread Bob Sullivan
Thanks Christine.
It's the top of a big sign.
This is about as much of it as I got,

https://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Exports2011#5571902454764905010

But the birds look better in the first shot.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:13 PM, Christine  Aguila
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 I really like this shot of your Hawks, Bob--a lot.  I just wish the sign
 wasn't cut off.  Cheers, Christine


 - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com
 To: PDML pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 10:01 PM
 Subject: PESO: Red Shoulder Hawks


 Found these guys today, just standing around hunting bugs in the grass.

 https://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Exports2011#5571902437893618818

 K-5 and DA60-250/4 lens, lots of backlight corrected in Lightroom 3.2/

 Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: Newbie with DSLR and soon to be an owner of a K-R when it arrives...

2011-02-11 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Feb 11, 2011, at 6:58 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 
 On Feb 11, 2011, at 1:27 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
 
 
 On Feb 10, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
 
 On Feb 10, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
 
 
 
 The good news is that the metering on the K-r is good enough that TTL 
 flash is actually useful.  The bad news is that the AF540 is damn near 
 useless as a manual flash.  Keep your eyes open for cheap manual flashes, 
 but watch the trigger voltage and make sure it isn't so high that it'll 
 fry your camera.
 
 TTL flashes don't work on the K-r, or any of the other recent Pentax DSLRs.
 
 Mea culpa, I mentally translated TTL to P-TTL, just treating it as Through 
 The Lens metering in general.
 
 
 
 The AF540 is a good flash. It's P-TTL, which is the Pentax auto format. Why 
 would you want to use it in manual mode. 
 
 So far, I've found three reasons to use my AF540 in manual mode, My 
 K100Dsuper, my K20D, and to a lesser extent my K-x.  Frankly, in my 
 experience, Pentax flash metering technology lies somewhere between useless 
 and destructive. Granted, it has improved a lot lately, and I have actually 
 found several situations with the K-x that using p-ttl with the AF-540 has 
 led to photos with nearly acceptable exposure. But, even if p-ttl were to 
 work perfectly the question of why I would want full control of any piece of 
 photographic equipment stuns me from a photographer of your ability?  Do you 
 just leave your camera in green mode and autofocus and let it make every 
 decision for you? I didn't buy a DSLR because of how well it took photos 
 without my input, I took a DSLR because of how well it lets me control it.
 
 
 I can exercise much more control over the P-ttl 540 flash than I ever could 
 over a manual flash. I can dial in exposure comp, plus or minus. I can synch 
 it at high speed, and I can tell it to flash trailing the curtain. Now are 
 you stunned? Apparently, you didn't know how capable this flash can be.
 
 Yes, Pentax flash technology is far from perfect, and the 540 doesn't always 
 work in complete harmony with the cameras. But I've found it's very accurate 
 with the K-5. It was less than perfect with the K20, but I was still able to 
 use it very effectively on many occasions. 
 
 I use studio strobes on many occasions, and I've used manual flashes 
 extensively for many years. They're very limiting. At a given distance, 
 you're either locked into an f-stop or forced to resort to diffusion, 
 filtering and other means to try to get to the stop you want. Not good. 
 Somewhat useless in many situations.
 
I meant to say that the on-camera manual flashes are very limiting, because 
they lock you in to an exposure. Some allow incremental power adjustments, but 
they're not in synch with f stops. Some allow no adjustment at all. Most studio 
strobes are very manageable, because they're infinitely adjustable to a certain 
point, and there are many ways to diffuse and position them. But when it comes 
to on-camera, P-TTL is as good as it gets for Pentax. I am hoping for a better 
flash from Pentax some time soon. In fact, I've held off on having one of my 
540s repaired. (I broke the zoom function, probably with some heavyweight 
attachments.)
Paul
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Re: Question about Metz 45CL4 (analog one, not the recent digital version) and SCA adapters

2011-02-11 Thread Boris Liberman

Thibs, the 3701 still works flawlessly with my K-7.

On 2/11/2011 12:00 PM, Thibouille wrote:

I should receive my 45CL4 any day now.
I bought it for my C330 but intend to use it with my K7/SuperA/KX/MX
as well since I have it anyway.

The question is: would there be a significant difference when using it
with SCA adaters between 372 and 3702 adapters?
AFAIK current Pentax DSLRs still support the old analog signaling
although plain TTL isn't supported anymore.
In that case, IMO, 3702 would add exactly nothing. But I'm not sure so...

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Re: PESO: The Wire Welder

2011-02-11 Thread Darren Addy
Thanks to all who have shared comments. I seem to like this particular
image more than The Collective, it seems.

One interesting feature of the mirror lens (that I didn't think
about before getting one) is the way it makes the edges of objects
inside the focal plane semi-transparent. This is due to the central
obstruction in a mirror lens that gives you an almost-stereo effect.
The mirror to the right of the central obstruction is blocked from
seeing the more distant objects while the mirror to the left of the
edge can see a bit more past it. This simultaneous double exposure
results in the semi-transparent edge you see in the red/orange toolbox
to the right.

This is an element that can be used creatively. While I don't care for
the donut bokeh created by the mirror lens, this simply means that
it is best used (if one wishes to avoid them) where there will not be
specular highlights in the background (lower dynamic range scenes,
perhaps?)

I'm having a hard time believing how shallow the depth of field on
this lens is, even when focusing at a great distance. I took an image
of a field full of white tail deer on the way home from work (on a
tripod) and was surprised to find that a narrow strip of cornstalks
about 10 yards in front of the deer was sharply in focus while all
else was not. It is a challenging lens to use through the viewfinder.
I may have to make use of focusing through the live view (something I
have been aware of for a while, but have so far eshewed). Where it is
sharp it is very sharp (for a mirror lens) which surprises me.

I've heard good things about this lens for a while and can see already
that those opinions are justified.

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Re: Advice solicitation for analog shooting

2011-02-11 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Collin Brendemuehl
coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:


-Original Message-
From: David J Brooks [mailto:pentko...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 01:57 PM
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
Subject: Re: Advice solicitation for analog shooting

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 1:02 PM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 The palm of your hand is also reasonably close to 18% as well.

Frank and i cannot use this method. We wear gloves most of the year.

Dave

 Really.
 Canadian?
 or you living in Tulsa today?

Nope still here. I just wear them when i unlock my bus. I hate it when
the key freezes to my hand.

Dave

 Sincerely,

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Re: PESO 2011 - 023 - GDG

2011-02-11 Thread David J Brooks
Wonderful shot and rendering'

Dave

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote:
 Just a singleton for now ... Was out for a morning walk a couple of weeks 
 back and became entranced by shapes and soft fog interplay. I think there's 
 enough in what I captured for another 7-9 photo set, but haven't gotten to 
 the processing yet.

 Anyway, here's one to enjoy:
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5432476239/lightbox/
 or
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5432476239/
 if the Flickr lightbox doesnt work for you.

 Thanks for looking, comments appreciated.

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Re: OT Screen brightness or print problem

2011-02-11 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 8:33 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 It would be better to find a way to control the light in the room, rather 
 than changing the monitor for different conditions. Can you put a shade or 
 curtain on the window? It's hard to evaluate images for printing if the room 
 lighting keeps changing.
 Paul

True and true. I had taken the shade down before i moved everything in
here, for the plants Liz had in the room.

The blind is now back up.

Dave
 On Feb 10, 2011, at 7:36 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Well, i think i see what some of you are talking about regarding
 brightness in different light conditions.

 When i figured out what worked best last weekend, it had been during a
 rather long spell of overcastness. This is were i figured that -10-11
 clicks worked best.

 Today i was looking at the same photos, now in the room with diffused
 bright sun light. I had to bump up from -11 to about -8 or -7 to get
 the same looking photo on screen.
 Seems a few days of playing to get a screen profile for various light
 conditions is in order.

 And i thought moving my system to Erin's old room would be a snap.:-)

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FS: Ultimate Asahi Pentax Screw Mount Guide (THE Book)

2011-02-11 Thread Darren Addy
I realize that all of the savvy Pentax people on this list already own
a copy, but since I just posted it For Sale on the pentaxforums
marketplace I thought I'd also post it here:

Often sold for much, much more. For example: here are the other 3
copies currently available in the world:
http://www.dpnebraska.com/images/ultimateAsahi.png

The Ultimate Asahi Pentax Screw Mount Guide is a must have for any
serious Pentax user or collector. This (now out of print) book far
more than paid for itself when it helped me identify a lens that was
in a collection for sale that was worth three times what the entire
collection cost me. It can do the same for you. Knowledge is Power,
and regardless of whether you want to spot bargains for yourself or
for resale, this is one tool that you can't afford to be without. The
profits you could make on one lens will more than repay the price of the book.

The Guide contains information on not only Asahi Pentax lenses, but
also bodies and accessories. If you are building a collection, you're
sure to find stuff to add to your list that you may not have even
known existed. This is the definitive guide. You may have seen its
cover used as the Avatar by knowledgable users in various forums, and
after you see it you'll know why this book is THAT important to them.

$250 OBO plus shipping. I'll pay any associated fees if paying by Paypal.

Will be happy to send worldwide. PM me for a quote to your country. I
can send it fast or cheap, whichever you prefer. It will be shipped
within the U.S. by Priority Mail for $5

Darren Addy
Kearney, Nebraska

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Pentax is a finalist

2011-02-11 Thread Elizabeth Masoner
Pentax K5 made it to the finalist list of best camera 2010 on About.com
Photography. 
http://photography.about.com/b/2011/02/11/about-com-2011-readers-choice-awar
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Re: PESO - The Effect of the Cell Phone

2011-02-11 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Paul Sorenson
allarou...@earthlink.net wrote:
 There's usually a dumpster close by...

And I thought all that rustling sound was from raccoons...

;-)

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Sensor Cleaning

2011-02-11 Thread Luiz Felipe
I had some dust issues with the Ds, and eventually bought the Pentax Q-tip to 
settle matters. Worked like good magic, no hangovers nor headaches after the 
performance.

Curiously, some net addresses mention a similar product from Canon, said to be 
sold only in JP - and no Pentax cleaning tool.

Shooting wide open helps a lot - I'm positive both cameras have some spots that 
just don't show at the large apertures I've been using lately. Some other day 
I'll get to clean them.

Luiz Felipe
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http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe

Ken's words:
I've had 3 Pentax digital SLRS and sensor cleaning is a very seldom needed 
thing with my cameras - I go out of my way to keep dirt out and I've shot in 
freezing snow storms, pouring rain and high winds in the desert.
When changing lenses,I keep the camera body opening facing down and am as 
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pfa 50/1.4 sharpness

2011-02-11 Thread Luiz Felipe
Larry, you and Paul got me thinking about a test with Yvon's AF target - just 
to make sure there is no micro shift made evident by the 1.4 aperture. I 
understand the 1.4 lenses got slightly worse results wide open than the 1.7, 
and my rather crude tests point in the same direction. If you get to test it, 
post the results, ok?

Of course I'd still go for the slightly OOF pic, as opposed to the words 
describing the UFO.

Luiz Felipe
luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br
http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe

Larry's ideas:
On Feb 10, 2011, at 4:43 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
 Did you manual focus? If you're shooting wide open, and your autofocus is 
 off by even a relatively small amount, your results will be soft. The 
 performance of this lens on my K20 is what first convinced me that fine 
 focus adjustment is a necessity. I've since seen that the FA50/1.4 required 
 more adjustment than any of my DA or DA* lenses. 
 Paul

I ran versions of the test with both autofocus, and manual focus with the 
katzeye, and got very similar results.

Some of it was CA.  Oddly, to me, this lens doesn't seem to be in the 
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Re: Cartier-Bresson at the High

2011-02-11 Thread Eric Weir

On Feb 10, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:

 On 2011-02-10 17:13, Eric Weir wrote:
 
 Looked for information about the lecture on the High website, Doug, but 
 didn't find anything. Do you have details?
 
 Try:
 
 http://www.high.org/main.taf?p=3,2,1,21,1

That was what I checked out before.

In looking again a second time I came across this, an interactive website on 
the exhibit that's traveling the country. 
http://moma.org/interactives/exhibitions/2010/henricartierbresson/#/

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Re: BH photo android app

2011-02-11 Thread steve harley

On 2011-02-11 02:14 , Rob Studdert wrote:

On 11 February 2011 07:13, Paul Stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net  wrote:

Saw the BH solicitation for that app. Can't imagine why I would want to shop 
for equipment on my phone, other than to jack up my phone bill.


I do a heck of a lot of Internet related things on my phone that I
wouldn't have dreamt of before. Everywhere I spend time and use the
net heavily I generally have a WiFi connection available so I don't
use the phone service data except when I'm mobile and then I've never
got close to my monthly DL limit (1GB). I just checked and I'm at 4%
for this month.


i do a fair amount of comparison shopping with Amazon Remembers on my 
iPhone (it sends images to the Mechanical Turk, which attempts to find a 
matching product on amazon.com for a quick price check) -- i do it over 
3G (usually no wifi when shopping) but that plus lots of other 3G usage 
(very little video, though) have never bumped me over 200MB/month data usage


i don't see the lure of a BH app, though; it's gimmicky -- the effort 
would be better spent to mobile-optimize their site


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Re: Question about Metz 45CL4 (analog one, not the recent digital version) and SCA adapters

2011-02-11 Thread Mat Maessen
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote:
 The question is: would there be a significant difference when using it
 with SCA adaters between 372 and 3702 adapters?
 AFAIK current Pentax DSLRs still support the old analog signaling
 although plain TTL isn't supported anymore.
 In that case, IMO, 3702 would add exactly nothing. But I'm not sure so...

The SCA 3000 series adapter that you slide the 3702 into will give you
a focusing light (LED) for low-light autofocusing. SFAIK, the SCA 300
series adapters don't have that.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong about that.

I've got a 45CT4, a 3000 series adapter, and a 3701 module to go into
it. It was a little bit flaky on my DS2. Hopefully the 3702 fixed
that.

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RE: pfa 50/1.4 sharpness

2011-02-11 Thread Robert Blakely
It may be just me, but I'd compare the f/1.7 lens with the f/1.4 *AT* f/1.7.

Reason? If they're both about the same at f/1.7, then the f/1.4 lens is just
as good as the f/1.7 for all purposes you would have used the f/1.7. Bonus:
a little more aperture available to control DOF with the 1.4.

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From: Luiz Felipe
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 9:32 AM

Larry, you and Paul got me thinking about a test with Yvon's AF target -
just to make sure there is no micro shift made evident by the 1.4 aperture.
I understand the 1.4 lenses got slightly worse results wide open than the
1.7, and my rather crude tests point in the same direction. If you get to
test it, post the results, ok?

Of course I'd still go for the slightly OOF pic, as opposed to the words
describing the UFO.

Luiz Felipe
luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br
http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe

Larry's ideas:
On Feb 10, 2011, at 4:43 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
 Did you manual focus? If you're shooting wide open, and your autofocus is
off by even a relatively small amount, your results will be soft. The
performance of this lens on my K20 is what first convinced me that fine
focus adjustment is a necessity. I've since seen that the FA50/1.4 required
more adjustment than any of my DA or DA* lenses. 
 Paul

I ran versions of the test with both autofocus, and manual focus with the
katzeye, and got very similar results.

Some of it was CA.  Oddly, to me, this lens doesn't seem to be in the
lightroom lens correction database.


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OT - compact and versatile digital videocam? Advice needed

2011-02-11 Thread Igor Roshchin


Hi All,

I am looking for an advice on a compact and versatile digital 
videocam.

I've never done much of video capturing.
I started playing with it occasionally since I have it my K-7, -
in the situations when I need to capture things like a class summary.

Now, I need one for my class. I may use it occasionally for two other
things: 
1. being able to display the live video on the computer in real time 
(via USB or similar connection)
I need to be able to switch to different resolutions: at least
1024x768 and one of the higher ones (e.g. 1280x780, 720p, 1080?)

2. take videos of class summaries in a somewhat low light condition.

Other desired options:
* HD-1080 resolution is not a must, but I'd like to have at least 720p.
* It'd be nice to be able to record to SD cards, as I have a few of them
already, but it isn't a deal breaker.
* reasonable zoom: it'd be nice to have equivalent of the 28mm on full
frame camera or maybe even slightly wider (24mm).
* reasonably high-ISO would be nice.
* autofocus during shooting
* anti-shake (optical would be nice, but not a must)
* manual focus option would be nice
* automatic exponometry, but a possibility of manual adjustment would be
considered.
* compact size and small weight woulf be great.
* Budget: I don't know yet. Definitely below $1K; but $500-800 would 
be preferred. Maybe cheaper, if reasonable cameras exist.

There are probably a few more that I am forgetting at this point.

I would greatly appreciate suggestions and pointers.

Thank you,

Igor


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RE: OT: Self help

2011-02-11 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bob W

Bob,

 Having read the footnote one therein I have amusingly noticed that I
 was
 just about to ask you what exactly you meant by English and what was
 the difference in the context thereof between British and English and
 if
 I may be so bold to add here - American.

 Surely I should read this text in its entirety as it is undoubtedly
 going to prove to be most entertaining...

 Boris

unlikely as it may seem, there is a way in which Americans can almost attain
Englishness:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12382224

To be English is to be a gentleman, and to be a gentleman is to be English.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CcU085tGwEfeature=ivannotation_id=annotat
ion_941207


Imagine that.

And here I didn't even know there was such a thing as cricket hooligans?


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re: Is Live View Also Sent Over The Video Output?

2011-02-11 Thread John Sessoms

From: Glen Berry

I was wondering if any of the Pentax DSLRs actually transmit a Live
View video feed through their video output connection?

The reason I'm asking, I'm trying to figure out if it's possible to
place a Pentax DSLR in a remote location (on the end of a pole, for
example) and view the Live View signal on a remote monitor. If so, you
could trip the shutter remotely and use the camera in places where it's
physically impractical to place your head behind the camera.

If this would work, which models of Pentax support this sort of remote
live viewing?


http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2007/12/05/zigview-s2-digital-v.html

Google SLR remote viewfinder


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RE: OT: Self help

2011-02-11 Thread Bob W
  To be English is to be a gentleman, and to be a gentleman is to be
 English.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CcU085tGwEfeature=ivannotation_id=an
 notat
  ion_941207
 
 Imagine that.
 
 And here I didn't even know there was such a thing as cricket
 hooligans?

we use the term Australians

B


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PESO: Red Tail Portrait

2011-02-11 Thread Jack Davis
 
When I'm unsuccessful at wing shooting, I'll always settle for sitting.
I came that close to a decent wing shot and may post it later..with excuses. 
:(

Comments?

Thanks!

Jack

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=568

Same place, same equipment.


  

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Re: Advice solicitation for analog shooting

2011-02-11 Thread John Sessoms
The exercise they had us do was to mount three 8x10 cards together - 
white+gray+black.


Then we had to photograph the three cards using reflected-light metering 
on the white, bracketing -2, -1, 0, +1, +2; ... on the gray, bracketing; 
... on the black, bracketing.


All shots had to be produced in one session so that all the exposures 
were in the same light. Direct sunlight was specified for the first time 
out.


After processing the film, we had to produce a contact sheet printed to 
base+fog (so that you could just barely see the difference between black 
and the edge of the film).




From: Thibouille

Walter, about those metering and mid gray things. A simple but very
effective thing our teacher asked us: Take a pic of a white object
(like sheets of paper), a gray object and a black object. To stay
simple, the three objects will have about the same color (gray of
course). This is simple and clearly nails the problem. A built-in
meter (and any meter used in reflective metering), even how modern it
is, is always influenced by color and reflection power of the metered
object.

2011/2/10 Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com:

? Thanks for the explanation, Collin.

When Paul said to overexpose, I was actually thinking it sounded
counter-intuitive -- that you'd want to under-expose in a snowy
situation. ?But, it makes sense now that you explained that the
meter assumes a neutral grey.

So, I'm assuming that in extra-low-light situations, I'd want to
under-expose by a couple of stops in that case.

Glad I found this out before getting too deep into the roll!




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Re: Newbie with DSLR and soon to be an owner of a K-R when it arrives...

2011-02-11 Thread Larry Colen

On Feb 11, 2011, at 3:58 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 
 On Feb 11, 2011, at 1:27 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
 
 
 On Feb 10, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
 
 On Feb 10, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
 
 
 
 The good news is that the metering on the K-r is good enough that TTL 
 flash is actually useful.  The bad news is that the AF540 is damn near 
 useless as a manual flash.  Keep your eyes open for cheap manual flashes, 
 but watch the trigger voltage and make sure it isn't so high that it'll 
 fry your camera.
 
 TTL flashes don't work on the K-r, or any of the other recent Pentax DSLRs.
 
 Mea culpa, I mentally translated TTL to P-TTL, just treating it as Through 
 The Lens metering in general.
 
 
 
 The AF540 is a good flash. It's P-TTL, which is the Pentax auto format. Why 
 would you want to use it in manual mode. 
 
 So far, I've found three reasons to use my AF540 in manual mode, My 
 K100Dsuper, my K20D, and to a lesser extent my K-x.  Frankly, in my 
 experience, Pentax flash metering technology lies somewhere between useless 
 and destructive. Granted, it has improved a lot lately, and I have actually 
 found several situations with the K-x that using p-ttl with the AF-540 has 
 led to photos with nearly acceptable exposure. But, even if p-ttl were to 
 work perfectly the question of why I would want full control of any piece of 
 photographic equipment stuns me from a photographer of your ability?  Do you 
 just leave your camera in green mode and autofocus and let it make every 
 decision for you? I didn't buy a DSLR because of how well it took photos 
 without my input, I took a DSLR because of how well it lets me control it.
 
 
 I can exercise much more control over the P-ttl 540 flash than I ever could 
 over a manual flash. I can dial in exposure comp, plus or minus. I can synch 
 it at high speed, and I can tell it to flash trailing the curtain. Now are 
 you stunned? Apparently, you didn't know how capable this flash can be.

I know that it has all of those controls on the back, and I've even used them 
all. 

 
 Yes, Pentax flash technology is far from perfect, and the 540 doesn't always 
 work in complete harmony with the cameras. But I've found it's very accurate 
 with the K-5. It was less than perfect with the K20, but I was still able to 
 use it very effectively on many occasions. 

On many occasions? Then you had much better luck with yours than I ever had 
with mine.  I had far better success with the exposure on the 540, especially 
on the K20, adjusting it manually.  Unfortunately, it refuses to stay in manual 
mode, so I'll get everything dialed in. Have a shot turn out fine, then it'll 
switch in and out of p-ttl so I never know what I'm going to get.  
Interestingly, I do have a similar problem with another flash (not pentax) 
which doesn't have a hard switch for p-ttl that switches in and out of p-ttl 
when I try to set it to manual, so it may not be the flash's fault.

I just found that the combination of AF540 and K20 was a combination that 
practically guaranteed frustration.  The metering on the K-x is so much better, 
likewise on the K-r I used, that I'm better off just letting it do what ever 
the hell it wants.

 
 I use studio strobes on many occasions, and I've used manual flashes 
 extensively for many years. They're very limiting. At a given distance, 
 you're either locked into an f-stop or forced to resort to diffusion, 
 filtering and other means to try to get to the stop you want. Not good. 
 Somewhat useless in many situations.

In the strobist DVDs, he basically disables any sort of automatic metering and 
dials his strobes in manually.  Then again, he uses Nikon speedlights which 
seem to be much, much nicer flashes than the Pentax gear.

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Re: Newbie with DSLR and soon to be an owner of a K-R when it, arrives...

2011-02-11 Thread John Sessoms

From: Cotty

On 10/2/11, Jeffery Johnson, discombobulated, unleashed:

Hum, okay?

Okay.

Mmm-mmm-m-.

(That was Harmonica's theme from Once Upon a Time in the West, but I can
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Let's see what you can do with this one!

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Re: Newbie with DSLR and soon to be an owner of a K-R when it arrives...

2011-02-11 Thread Larry Colen
By the way, despite my complaints with the 540, I don't mean to imply that it 
is impossible to get good photos with it.  The problem is what you get for how 
much you pay. I often have better luck with promaster flashes that I paid less 
to buy, than I've paid to repair the AF540.

Then there is the case that mine has been in for repair at least three times.  
Fortunately the first two times were under warranty, so I only had to pay for 
it once.   It is absolutely critical that it be attached tightly to the hot 
shoe.  However, if you over tighten it, it'll break, and then it won't tighten 
at all.  

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Re: OT - compact and versatile digital videocam? Advice needed

2011-02-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Probably the most competent video camera in the price bracket below
$1K is the Panasonic Lumix GH2 fitted with the 14-150 HD lens. Unless
you want a dedicated video camera, that is. But there aren't any
large sensor video cams in that price bracket.

On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:


 Hi All,

 I am looking for an advice on a compact and versatile digital
 videocam.

 I've never done much of video capturing.
 I started playing with it occasionally since I have it my K-7, -
 in the situations when I need to capture things like a class summary.

 Now, I need one for my class. I may use it occasionally for two other
 things:
 1. being able to display the live video on the computer in real time
 (via USB or similar connection)
 I need to be able to switch to different resolutions: at least
 1024x768 and one of the higher ones (e.g. 1280x780, 720p, 1080?)

 2. take videos of class summaries in a somewhat low light condition.

 Other desired options:
 * HD-1080 resolution is not a must, but I'd like to have at least 720p.
 * It'd be nice to be able to record to SD cards, as I have a few of them
 already, but it isn't a deal breaker.
 * reasonable zoom: it'd be nice to have equivalent of the 28mm on full
 frame camera or maybe even slightly wider (24mm).
 * reasonably high-ISO would be nice.
 * autofocus during shooting
 * anti-shake (optical would be nice, but not a must)
 * manual focus option would be nice
 * automatic exponometry, but a possibility of manual adjustment would be
 considered.
 * compact size and small weight woulf be great.
 * Budget: I don't know yet. Definitely below $1K; but $500-800 would
 be preferred. Maybe cheaper, if reasonable cameras exist.

 There are probably a few more that I am forgetting at this point.

 I would greatly appreciate suggestions and pointers.

 Thank you,

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Re: PESO: Red Tail Portrait

2011-02-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
Excellent! You're getting to be a regular bird dog:-). Good work. Even sitting 
shots are difficult, since most birds don't like to stay put.
Paul
On Feb 11, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

 
 When I'm unsuccessful at wing shooting, I'll always settle for sitting.
 I came that close to a decent wing shot and may post it later..with 
 excuses. :(
 
 Comments?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Jack
 
 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=568
 
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Re: PESO: Red Tail Portrait

2011-02-11 Thread Jack Davis
Nice comments, Paul. Thanks!

Jack

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 From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
 Subject: Re: PESO: Red Tail Portrait
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 1:33 PM
 Excellent! You're getting to be a
 regular bird dog:-). Good work. Even sitting shots are
 difficult, since most birds don't like to stay put.
 Paul
 On Feb 11, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
 
  
  When I'm unsuccessful at wing shooting, I'll always
 settle for sitting.
  I came that close to a decent wing shot and may post
 it later..with excuses. :(
  
  Comments?
  
  Thanks!
  
  Jack
  
  http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=568
  
  Same place, same equipment.
  
  
  
  
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Re: Newbie with DSLR and soon to be an owner of a K-R when it, arrives...

2011-02-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/2/11, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:

Let's see what you can do with this one!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hYV-JSjpyU

You don't know how close this is to me at the moment! I'm just finishing
off the edit of a 90 minute film of a village panto I shot and that
music is liberally scattered throughout. Anyone who edits film
(including finalizing the sound) for a living will know how close you
get to a project - including the music ;)

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Re: OT - compact and versatile digital videocam? Advice needed

2011-02-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/2/11, Igor Roshchin, discombobulated, unleashed:

* Budget: I don't know yet. Definitely below $1K; but $500-800 would
be preferred. Maybe cheaper, if reasonable cameras exist.

There are probably a few more that I am forgetting at this point.

I would greatly appreciate suggestions and pointers.

I'm afraid I have no experience of anything below professional spec
video cameras, so the only thing I can recommend is:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/597842-REG/
JVC_GY_HM100U_GY_HM100U_ProHD_Camcorder.html

although this Sony is supposed to be quite good:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?ci=1881N=4256818814+4293918139

alternatively a Sony HVR A1 used is a good buy...

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/384527-REG/
Sony_HVR_A1U_HVRA1U_HDV_Camcorder.html

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Re: PESO: Red Tail Portrait

2011-02-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/2/11, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed:

Comments?

Thanks!

Jack

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=568


Whoa Jack - that is superb. What a fabulous shot. Christian is the man -
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Re: pfa 50/1.4 sharpness

2011-02-11 Thread Larry Colen

On Feb 11, 2011, at 9:32 AM, Luiz Felipe wrote:

 Larry, you and Paul got me thinking about a test with Yvon's AF target - just 
 to make sure there is no micro shift made evident by the 1.4 aperture. I 
 understand the 1.4 lenses got slightly worse results wide open than the 1.7, 
 and my rather crude tests point in the same direction. If you get to test it, 
 post the results, ok?

OK, here are the test photos I took, most of them I just cropped in very 
tightly on the center of the frame:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157626026902326/
I did a couple of runs through, trying slightly different things.  These do not 
include the photos taken with the teleconverter.

F/1.4  nearly full frame (just rotated slightly)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5436573823/
f/2.8 nearly full frame
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5437186466/


f/1.4  cropped in tight:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5436572699/

f/1.8 cropped in tight
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5437184414/

f/2.8 cropped in tight
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5436574987/

The last of test photos were done at 1/180 second, using the af540 on p-ttl 
with a water bottle diffuser off camera to the right.

 
 Of course I'd still go for the slightly OOF pic, as opposed to the words 
 describing the UFO.

What happens on the UFO, stays on the UFO.


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Re: PESO: Red Tail Portrait

2011-02-11 Thread Jack Davis
Me, also! 
Your remarks greatly appreciated, Cotty!

Jack

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 Subject: Re: PESO: Red Tail Portrait
 To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 2:05 PM
 On 11/2/11, Jack Davis,
 discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Comments?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Jack
 
 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=568
 
 
 Whoa Jack - that is superb. What a fabulous shot. Christian
 is the man -
 love to know what he thinks.
 
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Re: OT - 36x optical zoom

2011-02-11 Thread Larry Colen

On Feb 11, 2011, at 4:09 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

 
 
 Wow! 36x optical zoom!
 I understand, it won't be as crisp as my Pentax DA* 50-135/2.8,
 and it is a slow (3.4-5.7) lens, but still...
 http://dpreview.com/news/1102/11020909nikonsuperzooms.asp
 
 4mm - 144mm  focal length - that's impressive.

What will be impressive is people trying to use it at a 810mm equivalent while 
holding the camera at arms length.

 

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PESO: Garden Fence

2011-02-11 Thread Jack Davis
Noticed this while in a spring mood. Had to put down my ice tea and get up from 
the patio chaise in order to shoot it. whew!

Comment away.

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Re: Newbie with DSLR and soon to be an owner of a K-R when it, arrives...

2011-02-11 Thread John Sessoms

From: Larry Colen

By the way, despite my complaints with the 540, I don't mean to imply
that it is impossible to get good photos with it.  The problem is
what you get for how much you pay. I often have better luck with
promaster flashes that I paid less to buy, than I've paid to repair
the AF540.

Then there is the case that mine has been in for repair at least
three times.  Fortunately the first two times were under warranty, so
I only had to pay for it once.   It is absolutely critical that it be
attached tightly to the hot shoe.  However, if you over tighten it,
it'll break, and then it won't tighten at all.



I have the both AF540FGZ and the AF330FGZ, but the most satisfactory 
Pentax flash I've found to use with the K20D is the AF-200FG.


I can set it for -1 and consistently get one stop under fill. If I take 
a little too long to set up a shot, it doesn't turn itself off and lose 
the settings.


My workhorse is the Vivitar 285HV.


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Re: PESO: Garden Fence

2011-02-11 Thread Steven Desjardins
Nice. It's important to suffer for your art.

On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Noticed this while in a spring mood. Had to put down my ice tea and get up 
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 Comment away.

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Re: OT - 36x optical zoom

2011-02-11 Thread Steven Desjardins
Arms length gets you closer.

On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On Feb 11, 2011, at 4:09 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:



 Wow! 36x optical zoom!
 I understand, it won't be as crisp as my Pentax DA* 50-135/2.8,
 and it is a slow (3.4-5.7) lens, but still...
 http://dpreview.com/news/1102/11020909nikonsuperzooms.asp

 4mm - 144mm  focal length - that's impressive.

 What will be impressive is people trying to use it at a 810mm equivalent 
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Re: OT: Self help

2011-02-11 Thread Subash
On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 20:51:29 -
Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

   To be English is to be a gentleman, and to be a gentleman is to be
  English.
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CcU085tGwEfeature=ivannotation_id=an
  notat
   ion_941207
  
  Imagine that.
  
  And here I didn't even know there was such a thing as cricket
  hooligans?
 
 we use the term Australians

down here the word is 'bcci' :)

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OT - Sydney; Home of the Beautiful People

2011-02-11 Thread Brian Walters
Of course, those of us who live here already knew that:

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/technology-plots-the-average-face-of-sydney--and-the-rest-of-the-world-20110211-1ap3w.html

http://tinyurl.com/6curn6g


(I'm fairly certain that my face didn't contribute to this)


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re: OT - Sydney; Home of the Beautiful People

2011-02-11 Thread John Sessoms

From: Brian Walters

Of course, those of us who live here already knew that:

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/technology-plots-the-average-face-of-sydney--and-the-rest-of-the-world-20110211-1ap3w.html

http://tinyurl.com/6curn6g


(I'm fairly certain that my face didn't contribute to this)



An article about a photography exhibition that contains no photographs?

... and the link in the article wants to teleport me to Better Than 
Life?



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Re: OT: Self help

2011-02-11 Thread William Robb

On 11/02/2011 6:41 PM, Subash wrote:






down here the word is 'bcci' :)



How do you pronounce that?

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PESO 2011 - 024, 025 - GDG

2011-02-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Couple of new additions to the Communicating series. Enjoy!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5436901379/lightbox/
or
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5436901379/

and 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5437510020/lightbox/
or 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5437510020/


Question: How many people have difficulty seeing the lightbox view? 

thanks! 
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Re: OT: Self help

2011-02-11 Thread Subash
On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 19:50:18 -0600
William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 11/02/2011 6:41 PM, Subash wrote:

  down here the word is 'bcci' :)

 How do you pronounce that?

i'm afraid you'll have to learn hindi for that... :)

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Re: Cartier-Bresson at the High

2011-02-11 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2011-02-11 11:57, Eric Weir wrote:


On Feb 10, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:


On 2011-02-10 17:13, Eric Weir wrote:


Looked for information about the lecture on the High website, Doug, but didn't 
find anything. Do you have details?


Try:

http://www.high.org/main.taf?p=3,2,1,21,1


That was what I checked out before.

In looking again a second time I came across this, an interactive website on 
the exhibit that's traveling the country.
http://moma.org/interactives/exhibitions/2010/henricartierbresson/#/


Sorry, Eric, the high.org link was all I had.  I hadn't gotten off my 
ass to look for more.  Still haven't, since you dished up a good link. :-)


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K-R arrived this afternoon

2011-02-11 Thread Jeffery Johnson
Just wanted to update everyone that my new K-R arrived this afternoon safely
and sound and as I type this the battery finally fully charged. I have been
reading over the manual and well now it is going to be an interesting
learning curve. 

On a different note how do I post correctly to the mail list. If I attempt
to send a message directly it never gets posted but if I reply to a message
it will post to the list. Basically the only way I have been able to send an
original message is to reply to a message, edit the subject line and then
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Re: PESO: Red Tail Portrait

2011-02-11 Thread drd1135
Very nice. What was the lens, he says having deleted the other posts?
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Subject: PESO: Red Tail Portrait

 
When I'm unsuccessful at wing shooting, I'll always settle for sitting.
I came that close to a decent wing shot and may post it later..with excuses. 
:(

Comments?

Thanks!

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Re: K-R arrived this afternoon

2011-02-11 Thread Mat Maessen
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Jeffery Johnson
jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 On a different note how do I post correctly to the mail list. If I attempt
 to send a message directly it never gets posted but if I reply to a message
 it will post to the list. Basically the only way I have been able to send an
 original message is to reply to a message, edit the subject line and then
 add my message.

Make sure you are not trying to send HTML email. Text only to the list.

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RE: K-R arrived this afternoon

2011-02-11 Thread Jeffery Johnson
Thanks Mat that is probably it. I will try that with the next message I post
to the list.

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Subject: Re: K-R arrived this afternoon

On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Jeffery Johnson
jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 On a different note how do I post correctly to the mail list. If I 
 attempt to send a message directly it never gets posted but if I reply 
 to a message it will post to the list. Basically the only way I have 
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Make sure you are not trying to send HTML email. Text only to the list.

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Re: K-R arrived this afternoon

2011-02-11 Thread Brian Walters
On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 21:02 -0600, Jeffery Johnson
jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Just wanted to update everyone that my new K-R arrived this afternoon
 safely
 and sound and as I type this the battery finally fully charged. I have
 been
 reading over the manual and well now it is going to be an interesting
 learning curve. 
 
 On a different note how do I post correctly to the mail list. If I
 attempt
 to send a message directly it never gets posted but if I reply to a
 message
 it will post to the list. Basically the only way I have been able to send
 an
 original message is to reply to a message, edit the subject line and then
 add my message.


Looking forward to some K-r PESOs and, of course, submissions to the
PUG!

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Re: PESO: Garden Fence

2011-02-11 Thread Jack Davis
Yes, I know. My ice tea got deluded as a result of some of the ice melting. 
I'll just have to get some longer lenses.

Jack

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 Subject: Re: PESO: Garden Fence
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 4:00 PM
 Nice. It's important to suffer for
 your art.
 
 On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Noticed this while in a spring mood. Had to put down
 my ice tea and get up from the patio chaise in order to
 shoot it. whew!
 
  Comment away.
 
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Re: PESO: Red Tail Portrait

2011-02-11 Thread Jack Davis
The trusty DA 55~300. Delete away, that's all I'll be be using for wildlife. 
(according to my wife). ;))

Jack

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 Very nice. What was the lens, he says
 having deleted the other posts?
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 Subject: PESO: Red Tail Portrait
 
  
 When I'm unsuccessful at wing shooting, I'll always settle
 for sitting.
 I came that close to a decent wing shot and may post it
 later..with excuses. :(
 
 Comments?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Jack
 
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The PUG and Other Acronyms (PDML FAQ)

2011-02-11 Thread Brian Walters
An FAQ?

Do we have one?

Yes, as a matter of fact.

Some years ago Greywolf (who no longer posts here) put together an short
FAQ in response to a request by Don Sanderson (who also no longer posts
here).  For some time Greywolf maintained the FAQ on his website and
posted the link to the list from time to time.

Sometime later Scott dug up the FAQ from the Wayback Machine, updated it
and placed it on the PUG pages.  As it seems that maintaining the FAQ is
(de facto) a responsibility of the PUG Master, I've accepted the
precedent established by Scott, made a few amendments to Scott's
amendments and posted the FAQ here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/mini-faq.html


It's obviously of use mainly to new or prospective members as it
explains some of the common acronyms used on the list.  Current members
who would like to take a look and suggest corrections or amendments are,
of course, welcome to do so.

I'll post the link to the list whenever I remember.



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RE: The PUG and Other Acronyms (PDML FAQ)

2011-02-11 Thread Jeffery Johnson
Thanks so much for posting this as this does answer several questions I had
on my mind about the list. 

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An FAQ?

Do we have one?

Yes, as a matter of fact.

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RE: K-R arrived this afternoon

2011-02-11 Thread Jeffery Johnson
Well now Brian let me get use to the camera and then I will share pictures.
I just ask that everyone please be gentle with me as I am a newbie to the
Pentax K-R as well as a true DSLR camera.

Jeffery

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Looking forward to some K-r PESOs and, of course, submissions to the PUG!

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Re: The Wire Welder

2011-02-11 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Darren:  I like the body position of the welder--really makes the 
shot--as does the spark streams.  Very nice there.  You might consider a 
square crop taking from the right side to eliminate the red.  The square 
crop nicely arranges the body position along the far left third of a square 
crop.  Cheers, Christine



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Received my Priority Mail package in only 10 days (from Ohio to
Nebraska). Whoo-Hoo!
This is a high-ISO K-x shot taken through the new-to-me Tamron SP 52BB
500mm f/8 adaptall2. (Thanks Collin!)
http://www.pixelsmithy.com/the-welder-test-of-tamron-sp-52bb-500mm-f8-ad

Comments welcome.

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Re: Red Tail Portrait

2011-02-11 Thread Christine Aguila

That's nice, Jack.  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: PESO: Red Tail Portrait




When I'm unsuccessful at wing shooting, I'll always settle for sitting.
I came that close to a decent wing shot and may post it later..with 
excuses. :(


Comments?

Thanks!

Jack

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Same place, same equipment.




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Re: Red Shoulder Hawks

2011-02-11 Thread Christine Aguila
I like this one too, Bob.  The birds funny.  I always want to write captions 
for pictures with more than one bird in it.  Given the sign, I can imagine 
the bird on the left saying, Well, are you coming with me or not?  and the 
bird on the right says, I don't know.  I'm thinking about it.

Cheers, Christine


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Subject: Re: Red Shoulder Hawks


Thanks Christine.
It's the top of a big sign.
This is about as much of it as I got,

https://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Exports2011#5571902454764905010

But the birds look better in the first shot.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:13 PM, Christine  Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:

I really like this shot of your Hawks, Bob--a lot. I just wish the sign
wasn't cut off. Cheers, Christine


- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com
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Subject: PESO: Red Shoulder Hawks



Found these guys today, just standing around hunting bugs in the grass.

https://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Exports2011#5571902437893618818

K-5 and DA60-250/4 lens, lots of backlight corrected in Lightroom 3.2/

Regards, Bob S.

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Photograph aspect ratios

2011-02-11 Thread Igor Roshchin


Following the link posted by Liz, I came across another short article 
(blogpost?) on about.com written by her, 
http://photography.about.com/od/developingandprinting/qt/ImageFormats.htm

I liked the subject: I thought it was the first time that I've seen 
somebody discussing different aspect ratios of the prints of different 
standard sizes and the planning needed for that.
 
I've discussed briefly a related question earlier here, on PDML, in some 
comments that I personally tend to favor two aspect ratios : 2:3 and 1:1 
(aka 6x6 :-) ). And these are the most common sizes that I tend to post
to the web. In the past, when I was ordering prints at the labs, 
I usually ordered prints in those ratios (4x6, 10cmx15cm, 20cm x 30 cm, 
8x12, etc.), and then it was sometimes harder to find a premanufactured 
(read: inexpensive) frame for 8x12, as 8x10 were more popular.

Once I started printing my own photos with Epson R2880, I found that
it is harder to do 8x12 prints, as the paper usually doesn't
come in that size. So, every so often, I am trying to fit my 2:3 photo
to 8x10 or 8.5x11 (Letter) formats.
The same problem was (and is) occuring with 5x7 (aka 13cmx18cm) prints, 
- but at least it is much closer to the 2:3 ratio, so it is not as 
difficult to do the crop.

After doing a search, I found that there were some people complaining 
about this issue earlier, e.g. here:
http://forums.popphoto.com/showthread.php?279310-standard-photo-print-sizes

I thought I'd share these with the PDMLers.


Also, I hope Liz won't be too mad at me for criticizing her posting.
I realize that the audience of about.com is mostly non-technical, 
but still ...

First of all, I was surprised not seeing 8x12 and 3.5x5 among the
standard print sizes.

Second, the squarest ratio is 1:1! And that's been on the market for
ages (albeit it's becoming less frequent, and may one day die).

Third, the multiplication factor and the ratio (in the particular
order of sides) are the same thing. So, the sentence It is often easier 
to think in terms of the length multiplication factors instead of the 
actual ratios. sounds weird. What it actually says is it is easier to use
decimal numbers (decimal fractions) then [non-decimal] fractions.

Fourth, I don't understand why 3.5:2.5 ratio is chosen for 5x7 prints
(except that the size 3.5x2.5 is also considered to be one of the
standard, - wallet, sizes).
It's a bit weird to translate a ratio of simple numbers to a ratio of decimal
non-intengers...

I also would challenge this statement:
Many cameras today record photographs in roughly a 3:2 ratio. This
means that the long side is 1.5 times as long as the short side. This is
the reason 4x6 has become a popular print size.
I believe the reason (or to be exact, one of the main reasons) why 4x6 
has become a popular print size is that the negative size on the 35mm
film was 24x36mm, which has the same aspect ratio.
More over, most sensor sizes (except those of DSLRs) are 4:3:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0210/02100402sensorsizes.asp .


Cheers,


Igor



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Magnum:50 Years at the Front Line of History--the book

2011-02-11 Thread Christine Aguila

Hi Everyone:

Many on PDML have probably read this book, but for those who haven't, I 
heartily recommend a read.  I liked it so much that tonight I'm going to 
start reading it again because I'm unwilling to say good by to the 
larger-than-life photographers or end the adventure.


Before reading the book I knew little about Magnum.  Of course, I had heard 
of Magnum, but not much else---I knew little of the in-house tensions, 
disagreements, both the positive and negative working dynamics, 
personalities, original mission, philosophical differences, financial 
struggles et al.  The first part of the book does a wonderful job of 
rendering Robert Capa, whom I didn't know much about--wow!  what a guy! 
What a fascinating human being.  In the beginning he truly was the heart and 
soul of Magnum.


Anyway, I highly recommend a read.  *Magnum:  50 Years at the Front Line of 
History* written by Russell Miller


Cheers, Christine from Chicago 



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Re: The PUG and Other Acronyms (PDML FAQ)

2011-02-11 Thread Larry Colen

On Feb 11, 2011, at 8:12 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
 
 
 Sometime later Scott dug up the FAQ from the Wayback Machine, updated it
 and placed it on the PUG pages.  As it seems that maintaining the FAQ is
 (de facto) a responsibility of the PUG Master, I've accepted the
 precedent established by Scott, made a few amendments to Scott's
 amendments and posted the FAQ here:
 
 http://pug.komkon.org/general/mini-faq.html

That should clear up a lot of his questions. But I notice that there's no 
mention of Cotty's hat,  or that incident with Chris, the enigma machine and 
the goat.


 
 
 It's obviously of use mainly to new or prospective members as it
 explains some of the common acronyms used on the list.  Current members
 who would like to take a look and suggest corrections or amendments are,
 of course, welcome to do so.
 
 I'll post the link to the list whenever I remember.

There's a link to the list?


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Re: PESO: Garden Fence

2011-02-11 Thread Ken Waller

Far out man. your ice tea has ludes in it !

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com

Subject: Re: PESO: Garden Fence


Yes, I know. My ice tea got deluded as a result of some of the ice 
melting. I'll just have to get some longer lenses.


Jack

--- On Fri, 2/11/11, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: PESO: Garden Fence
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 4:00 PM
Nice. It's important to suffer for
your art.

On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
wrote:
 Noticed this while in a spring mood. Had to put down
my ice tea and get up from the patio chaise in order to
shoot it. whew!

 Comment away.

 Jack

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Re: PESO 2011 - 024, 025 - GDG

2011-02-11 Thread Ken Waller
Question: How many people have difficulty seeing the lightbox view? 


Not i.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com


Subject: PESO 2011 - 024, 025 - GDG



Couple of new additions to the Communicating series. Enjoy!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5436901379/lightbox/
or
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5436901379/

and 


http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5437510020/lightbox/
or 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5437510020/



Question: How many people have difficulty seeing the lightbox view? 

thanks! 
Godfrey



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Re: OT - 36x optical zoom

2011-02-11 Thread mike wilson

On 11/02/2011 23:41, Larry Colen wrote:


On Feb 11, 2011, at 4:09 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:




Wow! 36x optical zoom!
I understand, it won't be as crisp as my Pentax DA* 50-135/2.8,
and it is a slow (3.4-5.7) lens, but still...
http://dpreview.com/news/1102/11020909nikonsuperzooms.asp

4mm - 144mm  focal length - that's impressive.


What will be impressive is people trying to use it at a 810mm equivalent while 
holding the camera at arms length.


Impressive I doubt; amusing I believe.

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Re: The PUG and Other Acronyms (PDML FAQ)

2011-02-11 Thread Brian Walters
On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 21:40 -0800, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 
 On Feb 11, 2011, at 8:12 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
  
  
  Sometime later Scott dug up the FAQ from the Wayback Machine, updated it
  and placed it on the PUG pages.  As it seems that maintaining the FAQ is
  (de facto) a responsibility of the PUG Master, I've accepted the
  precedent established by Scott, made a few amendments to Scott's
  amendments and posted the FAQ here:
  
  http://pug.komkon.org/general/mini-faq.html
 
 That should clear up a lot of his questions. But I notice that there's no
 mention of Cotty's hat,


Ah yes - done!


  or that incident with Chris, the enigma machine
 and the goat.


Hmm, must have missed that.  But some things are probably best left
undocumented.


 
  I'll post the link to the list whenever I remember.
 
 There's a link to the list?


Sometimes.



Cheers

Brian

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Re: PESO: Garden Fence

2011-02-11 Thread mike wilson
You should see what he puts in his mint juleps.  Removes any need for 
colour management...


On 12/02/2011 07:25, Ken Waller wrote:

Far out man. your ice tea has ludes in it !

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: PESO: Garden Fence



Yes, I know. My ice tea got deluded as a result of some of the ice
melting. I'll just have to get some longer lenses.

Jack

--- On Fri, 2/11/11, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: PESO: Garden Fence
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 4:00 PM
Nice. It's important to suffer for
your art.

On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
wrote:
 Noticed this while in a spring mood. Had to put down
my ice tea and get up from the patio chaise in order to
shoot it. whew!

 Comment away.

 Jack

 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=570






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Re: Photograph aspect ratios

2011-02-11 Thread Larry Colen

On Feb 11, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

 
 
 Following the link posted by Liz, I came across another short article 
 (blogpost?) on about.com written by her, 
 http://photography.about.com/od/developingandprinting/qt/ImageFormats.htm
 
 I liked the subject: I thought it was the first time that I've seen 
 somebody discussing different aspect ratios of the prints of different 
 standard sizes and the planning needed for that.
 
 I've discussed briefly a related question earlier here, on PDML, in some 
 comments that I personally tend to favor two aspect ratios : 2:3 and 1:1 
 (aka 6x6 :-) ). And these are the most common sizes that I tend to post
 to the web. In the past, when I was ordering prints at the labs, 
 I usually ordered prints in those ratios (4x6, 10cmx15cm, 20cm x 30 cm, 
 8x12, etc.), and then it was sometimes harder to find a premanufactured 
 (read: inexpensive) frame for 8x12, as 8x10 were more popular.

I have been printing in 4x6 and 8x12 for a very simple reason, those are the 
convenient sizes of paper that costco offers. If they print an 8x10, they do it 
on 8x12 paper and leave the margins.

I do not, however, generally crop my photos to 8x12.  If I crop them, I crop 
them to what works best, then when I print I zoom to fit leaving the margins 
on the paper to come out as they will.

Liz's article seems to assume zoom to fill which seems silly to me.  If you 
want zoom to fill, then lock the aspect ratio when you crop to the aspect ratio 
of the paper.


 
 Once I started printing my own photos with Epson R2880, I found that
 it is harder to do 8x12 prints, as the paper usually doesn't
 come in that size. So, every so often, I am trying to fit my 2:3 photo
 to 8x10 or 8.5x11 (Letter) formats.

I grew up printing on 4x5, because that was what I could generally afford to 
print on.  Printing 8x10s used up paper too fast. As such, I think that it has 
left me feeling more comfortable with crops that are closer to that aspect 
ratio than the wider aspect ratios of modern monitors.

 Second, the squarest ratio is 1:1! And that's been on the market for
 ages (albeit it's becoming less frequent, and may one day die).

A very good point.

 

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