Re: Something odd happening with Pentax Photo Gallery

2011-03-25 Thread AlunFoto

I know, John.
The only tangential point between Java and me is when I spill coffee on my 
keyboard. A few posts on this list have had that effect over the years.


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From: John Francis jo...@panix.com
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Sent: 24.3.'11,  23:10

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:30:26PM +0100, AlunFoto wrote:

A Java application running out of beans.
Maybe we should call Starbucks to fix it. :-)


That is, of course, why Beans is/are so named (see the logo).
I'm sure there's a whole bag of similar funny (sic) names
around, but fortunately I've mostly managed to avoid Java.


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645D performance in -25 °C

2011-03-25 Thread AlunFoto
On the last day at Svalbard I joined a snowmobile hike to the East
coast of Spitsbergen, a 10 hour ride. I carried the 645D in a
holsterbag (a LowePro Toploader) on my chest. The temperature in
Longyearbyen when we started was -25 °C. I could swear it was colder
on the glacier.

In short, the camera performed flawlessly. Exposures turned out
correct, the AF was snappy and accurate, processing and storing to
memory card worked at normal speeds and without glitch. All buttons
operated as they should.

There were some gotchas, though, but hardly the camera's fault.
1. The LCD on top of the camera got vry sluggish. When changing
shutter speed with the control wheel, for example, it took about five
seconds to switch the displayed number.
2. All of the manual focus 645 lenses and many of the FA lenses are
constructed in the same way as are the A-series for K-bayonet. That
is, with a lot of metal. This means one has to be careful about
handling the lenses with bare skin. Any amount of moisture will freeze
on touch.
3. The glass on rear display also gets very cold. My nose stuck to it
twice. The skin is still sore, two days later.
4. Battery performance goes down. Mine was fully charged in the
morning. By lunch I had made about 100 exposures, and the indicator
showed 67% charge. Some time in the afternoon I tried to do a series
on passing snowmobiles. The indicator dropped to empty after five
shots, but all images were stored correctly. I tried again with eight
exposures twenty minutes later, and everything still got stored
properly. The indicator would go back to 67% after a couple of
minutes' rest in the holsterbag.

Oh, and _don't_ breathe out with the camera before your face! :-)

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Re: PESO: Parthenon

2011-03-25 Thread Chris Mitchell
I too like the Photo Shoot one.

We've got significant bits of the real Parthenon in the British Museum
- I saw them just the other day. Stunning, but I wonder whether they
should be back in Athens in these enlightened times...

Chris

On 25 March 2011 00:34, Jeffery Johnson jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 This past Saturday we took a trip over to the Parthenon, Centennial Park,
 Nashville TN and toured the inside and then later walked around the park for
 bit enjoying the nice sunshine and warm day. Below is three from the set and
 if you like you can view all the photos by going here:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/sets/72157626308463710/


 BW Upper Body Casting
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/5543169001/

 Athena
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/5543155133/

 Photo Shoot
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/5543832204/

 Thanks,
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OT - World Time Zones

2011-03-25 Thread Cotty
Some may find this interactive world time zone map quite interesting.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-12849630

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PESO a cup of soup

2011-03-25 Thread Larry Colen
When my tango class ended, power still hadn't been restored at the house, so I 
went to a local diner for food. Something about the cup of soup struck me as 
visually appealing:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5557577703/in/set-72157626220301507/

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Re: 645D performance in -25 °C

2011-03-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/3/11, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:

 The temperature in
Longyearbyen when we started was -25 °C

Look forward to the pics!

I spent 5 minutes in an industrial deep freeze once at -25c and after
half the time it became a trial to even breathe. Mind you, no
acclimatisation, straight in and out from room temp, so probably the
worst possible way to do it. But I take my hat off to you - you Vikes
must have ice in the blood!

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RE: PESO: Parthenon

2011-03-25 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Chris Mitchell


 I too like the Photo Shoot one.
 
 We've got significant bits of the real Parthenon in the British Museum
 - I saw them just the other day. 

the upper body casting below is the statue of Dionysus in the pose of a
river god from the Elgin marbles. More usually seen from the angle of his
descendant, here:
http://www.musee-picasso.fr/pages/page_id18634_u1l2.htm


 Stunning, but I wonder whether they
 should be back in Athens in these enlightened times...
 

No.


 
 
  BW Upper Body Casting
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/5543169001/
 




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PESO: splash

2011-03-25 Thread Larry Colen
We had a bit of weather today, causing the power to go out a few minutes after 
a friend showed up to help me wire up some lights and outlets in the attic.   
My computer UPS runs off a deep cycle marine battery, so we didn't have any 
problem running a few compact fluorescents for a few hours while we did the 
work.

After he left, I went for a short walk to get some shots of the neighborhood.  
I liked the way water was splashing into a storm drain, and after a couple of 
fairly standard low shutter speed shots, I tried a few with the on camera 
flash.  This one is my favorite:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5557597473/in/set-72157626345222124/

The river was running impressively full today.  These are just some snapshots:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157626220275869/

This is normal winter flow, 2-3 times the normal summer flow:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623139114983/

I'm guessing that the log in this photo is 4-5 feet in diameter and 40-50 feet 
long:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5558152676/in/set-72157626220275869/

Unfortunately I was at the wrong end of the property to get a clear shot of it 
as it went past. I tried running to the downstream end, where I had a better 
view, but still didn't get a good photo of it.

This is looking upstream from my back yard before the winter rains came a 
little over a year ago:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4129027713/in/set-72157622740257283/

This is looking downstream at my backyard from the bridge in the above photo:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5558153978/in/set-72157626220275869/

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Re: OT - World Time Zones

2011-03-25 Thread AlunFoto
Well I did. Thanks for posting.

I particularly liked Nepali stretch time. :-)

2011/3/25 Cotty cotty...@mac.com:
 Some may find this interactive world time zone map quite interesting.

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-12849630

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Re: 645D performance in -25 °C

2011-03-25 Thread AlunFoto
2011/3/25 Cotty cotty...@mac.com:
 On 25/3/11, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:

 The temperature in
Longyearbyen when we started was -25 °C

 Look forward to the pics!

 I spent 5 minutes in an industrial deep freeze once at -25c and after
 half the time it became a trial to even breathe. Mind you, no
 acclimatisation, straight in and out from room temp, so probably the
 worst possible way to do it. But I take my hat off to you - you Vikes
 must have ice in the blood!

Ouch, that's definately brutal. And how about clothing?

We had four or five layers of clothing, mind you, so apart from
exposed extremities, it was actually pretty comfy. I had thin gloves
inside huge mittens to avoid exposing my hands while shooting. The
gloves sufficed for snap sessions up to 15 minutes before feeling the
cold. And btw, the snowmobiles had heating elements in the handlebars.
:-)

Pics will probably have to wait a couple of days. I only have about
one hour computer time today, and none tomorrow.



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Re: 645D performance in -25 °C

2011-03-25 Thread Bulent Celasun
Quite an experience!
Thanks for telling us.

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Re: OT - World Time Zones

2011-03-25 Thread David Mann
On Mar 25, 2011, at 9:13 PM, Cotty wrote:

 Some may find this interactive world time zone map quite interesting.
 
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-12849630

Fascinating stuff.  I just wish the bloody iplayer would work so I could watch 
the videos.

Dave


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Re: 645D performance in -25 °C

2011-03-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/3/11, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:

Ouch, that's definately brutal. And how about clothing?

Just my usual Berghaus which is good for about -10 or so which is
workably the coldest it usually gets here in the UK, aberrations like
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Re: Sigma APO 150-500mm F5-6.3 DG OS HSM PDQ XYZ ETC

2011-03-25 Thread Thibouille
About the number 10/ you listed. The reason is simple. AFAIK Sigme
does not have any TC with SDM/Powerzoom power contacts.
Stupid, heh ?

Thanks for the report, Stan.

2011/3/25 Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info:
 I was recently asking about this lens. Hearing no major horror stories about 
 this or similar lenses, and having some of my concerns about compatibility 
 put to rest by the Sigma technical folks (kudos to them for a quick, concise, 
 and on-target email response to my query), I bought one from Adorama. The 
 price was a couple hundred dollars higher than I had remembered from a few 
 weeks ago when I started looking. I don't know if that is poor memory or a 
 supply-demand adjustment.

 First impressions and observations:

 1. Not as heavy as I feared. On the other hand,
 2. It is clear that plastic is well represented in the overall makeup of the 
 lens. Seems to be good quality plastic, but still.
 3. The in-lens AF system operates on HSM which is compatible with my K20 HSM. 
 Knowing nothing about the underlying technology, I consider this to be a 
 minor miracle. Multiple manufacturers are using the same technology in a way 
 that allows them to be cross compatible! Wow!
 4. The AF allows manual override if the body's AF is on AF-S.
 5. The AF is more of an AF-assisted MF. I.e., you could probably brew an 
 espresso in the time it takes to find focus if you start with the lens on 
 close-up and ask it to focus on something close to infinity. It reminds me of 
 using the Pentax F-1.7x extender with a manual lens, a similar need to 
 pre-focus the lens.
 6. However, if you have the lens zone-focused in the general neighborhood of 
 your subject, the AF seems quick and precise with no unseemly dithering.
 7. The lens has an Optical Stabilization (OS) system.
        a. they say you can use the OS, or the camera's SR, but not both at 
 the same time.
        b. the OS seems to work. I haven't really given it a workout yet.
        c. it is nice to have an in-lens OS on a long lens; I have trouble 
 hand holding anything longer than a 250 or 300 because I can't get a good 
 sense of focus with the image in the viewfinder moving around so much.
 8. The OS has 3 modes: Off (recommended to avoid execess power consumption), 
 1, and 2. The instructions are not clear on the difference between 1 and 2, 
 but I think 2 is for shooting race cars or speed skaters or other targets 
 moving horizontally while 1 is for general scenes where either nothing is 
 moving (other than the camera in the hands of the unsteady photographer who 
 had too much coffee) or the subject(s) exhibit random unpredictable movement 
 around the scene like in a hockey game or a kids soccer game.
 9. The lens is not weather proof.
 10. The Sigma web site, the Adorama and BH descriptions of the lens, and the 
 generic instruction sheet that comes with the lens all mention the Sigma 1.4x 
 and 2.0x extenders which will work with this lens (though in manual focus 
 mode only.) However, we are special! Pentax users get an extra footnote: the 
 Pentax-mount Sigma tele-extenders are NOT compatible with this lens. I've 
 seen no explanation on what the incompatibility is.
 11. One other thing I almost forgot! The lens comes with a soft case which 
 has a shoulder strap; I have never understood why people would make cases 
 that are only good for storing lenses and don't have provision for carrying 
 them in the case. But Sigma goes a step further: they also have a shoulder 
 strap that attaches directly to the lens (on the tripod mount)! I don't know 
 that I would use it, but thanks Sigma for thinking of this.

 General comment - the lens is not magical. It does sometimes miss focus. My 
 handheld shots at 500mm show some signs of movement not overcome by the OS. 
 But a few quick shots this afternoon were far better than what I have been 
 able to do with similar subjects in similar lighting. It is a keeper until I 
 can find a Pentax counterpart that performs at least as well.

 For sample images (all birds) see my two blog posts from today: 
 http://smhalpin.posterous.com

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Re: PESO: splash

2011-03-25 Thread Jack Davis
My, you have some crisp images in this set! What camera/lens?
Looks to be a fairly deep cut stream bed, but has it spilled over its banks in 
recent years?
Felton area?

Jack

--- On Fri, 3/25/11, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
 Subject: PESO: splash
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, March 25, 2011, 1:38 AM
 We had a bit of weather today,
 causing the power to go out a few minutes after a friend
 showed up to help me wire up some lights and outlets in the
 attic.   My computer UPS runs off a deep
 cycle marine battery, so we didn't have any problem running
 a few compact fluorescents for a few hours while we did the
 work.
 
 After he left, I went for a short walk to get some shots of
 the neighborhood.  I liked the way water was splashing
 into a storm drain, and after a couple of fairly standard
 low shutter speed shots, I tried a few with the on camera
 flash.  This one is my favorite:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5557597473/in/set-72157626345222124/
 
 The river was running impressively full today.  These
 are just some snapshots:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157626220275869/
 
 This is normal winter flow, 2-3 times the normal summer
 flow:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623139114983/
 
 I'm guessing that the log in this photo is 4-5 feet in
 diameter and 40-50 feet long:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5558152676/in/set-72157626220275869/
 
 Unfortunately I was at the wrong end of the property to get
 a clear shot of it as it went past. I tried running to the
 downstream end, where I had a better view, but still didn't
 get a good photo of it.
 
 This is looking upstream from my back yard before the
 winter rains came a little over a year ago:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4129027713/in/set-72157622740257283/
 
 This is looking downstream at my backyard from the bridge
 in the above photo:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5558153978/in/set-72157626220275869/
 
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GESO: young females - request for comments

2011-03-25 Thread Krisjanis Linkevics
On Wednesday I had an opportunity to attend a studio portrait shootout that was 
a part of some photo classes - basically a bunch of students going 
trigger-happy. As I was just substituting for some fun I shot JPEGs and frankly 
was surprised to see how much I could really play with them - something I 
thought impossible without RAW. Anyway, just a few random pictures - would 
appreciate some critical comments both general and framing/postprocessing. 
Thanks.

A couple were shot with an IR-modified K10D and the others with the K-5.

http://foto.ri-ki.lv/categories.php?cat_id=5

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Re: Our reticent Listmeister

2011-03-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
Doug posts frequently on facebook, so I've seen some of these. Great stuff. 
Albano can be seen there as well.
Paul
On Mar 24, 2011, at 11:14 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

 This Doug Brewer guy has been posting some beautiful work recently.  I guess 
 he'd rather none of us ever looked at it.  Tough, Doug; I'm now letting the 
 entire PDML universe know where it is.
 
 http://dougbrewer.posterous.com/
 
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Re: PESO: splash

2011-03-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nice. The splash makes for a nice photo. Well done. The river shots are 
interesting. Are there any fish in that stream?
Paul
On Mar 25, 2011, at 4:38 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

 We had a bit of weather today, causing the power to go out a few minutes 
 after a friend showed up to help me wire up some lights and outlets in the 
 attic.   My computer UPS runs off a deep cycle marine battery, so we didn't 
 have any problem running a few compact fluorescents for a few hours while we 
 did the work.
 
 After he left, I went for a short walk to get some shots of the neighborhood. 
  I liked the way water was splashing into a storm drain, and after a couple 
 of fairly standard low shutter speed shots, I tried a few with the on camera 
 flash.  This one is my favorite:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5557597473/in/set-72157626345222124/
 
 The river was running impressively full today.  These are just some snapshots:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157626220275869/
 
 This is normal winter flow, 2-3 times the normal summer flow:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623139114983/
 
 I'm guessing that the log in this photo is 4-5 feet in diameter and 40-50 
 feet long:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5558152676/in/set-72157626220275869/
 
 Unfortunately I was at the wrong end of the property to get a clear shot of 
 it as it went past. I tried running to the downstream end, where I had a 
 better view, but still didn't get a good photo of it.
 
 This is looking upstream from my back yard before the winter rains came a 
 little over a year ago:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4129027713/in/set-72157622740257283/
 
 This is looking downstream at my backyard from the bridge in the above photo:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5558153978/in/set-72157626220275869/
 
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Re: Going to read-only lurking mode

2011-03-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
We honored the spirit of the request (no flame war) if not the letter
by expressing our concern which he can read later.

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 I would appreciate if this message to the list wasn't answered as my
 intent is to notify and not to start a political discussion or a flame.

 And I'm amazed at how many ignored Boris's request.

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

 - Original Message - From: Christine Aguila
 cagu...@earthlink.net
 Subject: Re: Going to read-only lurking mode


 Take care, Boris.  We're thinking of you and your family.  Cheers,
 Christine from Chicago


 - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com
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 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 8:52 AM
 Subject: Going to read-only lurking mode


 Shalom.

 The new cycle of violence has developed in my country. Rockets are
 falling again in the towns just nearby ours. I don't think I will be in
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Re: PESO: Parthenon

2011-03-25 Thread Eric Weir

On Mar 24, 2011, at 9:40 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote:

 I thought I had added a link to the BW Upper Body Casting shot so
 did you mean to link to another image.

You did indeed. My oversight. I looked at the gallery first, and may not have 
looked at the separate link to the upper body casting.

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Re: PESO a cup of soup

2011-03-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
A fine, vivid image.  Makes me hungry.

Dan

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 I went to a local diner for food. Something about the cup of soup struck me 
 as visually appealing:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5557577703/in/set-72157626220301507/

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Re: PESO: splash

2011-03-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I like Splash very much.  Interesting and distinctive.

Dan

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 We had a bit of weather today, causing the power to go out a few minutes 
 after a friend showed up to help me wire up some lights and outlets in the 
 attic.   My computer UPS runs off a deep cycle marine battery, so we didn't 
 have any problem running a few compact fluorescents for a few hours while we 
 did the work.

 After he left, I went for a short walk to get some shots of the neighborhood. 
  I liked the way water was splashing into a storm drain, and after a couple 
 of fairly standard low shutter speed shots, I tried a few with the on camera 
 flash.  This one is my favorite:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5557597473/in/set-72157626345222124/

 The river was running impressively full today.  These are just some snapshots:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157626220275869/

 This is normal winter flow, 2-3 times the normal summer flow:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623139114983/

 I'm guessing that the log in this photo is 4-5 feet in diameter and 40-50 
 feet long:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5558152676/in/set-72157626220275869/

 Unfortunately I was at the wrong end of the property to get a clear shot of 
 it as it went past. I tried running to the downstream end, where I had a 
 better view, but still didn't get a good photo of it.

 This is looking upstream from my back yard before the winter rains came a 
 little over a year ago:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4129027713/in/set-72157622740257283/

 This is looking downstream at my backyard from the bridge in the above photo:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5558153978/in/set-72157626220275869/

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Re: PESO: splash

2011-03-25 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 4:38 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 We had a bit of weather today, causing the power to go out a few minutes 
 after a friend showed up to help me wire up some lights and outlets in the 
 attic.   My computer UPS runs off a deep cycle marine battery, so we didn't 
 have any problem running a few compact fluorescents for a few hours while we 
 did the work.

 After he left, I went for a short walk to get some shots of the neighborhood. 
  I liked the way water was splashing into a storm drain, and after a couple 
 of fairly standard low shutter speed shots, I tried a few with the on camera 
 flash.  This one is my favorite:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5557597473/in/set-72157626345222124/

Great splash shot

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Re: PESO: Parthenon

2011-03-25 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I like Photo Shoot--well caught, nice composition.

 Rick

As do i

Dave

 http://photo.net/photos/RickW


 --- On Thu, 3/24/11, Jeffery Johnson jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 From: Jeffery Johnson jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net
 Subject: PESO: Parthenon
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 8:34 PM
 This past Saturday we took a trip
 over to the Parthenon, Centennial Park,
 Nashville TN and toured the inside and then later walked
 around the park for
 bit enjoying the nice sunshine and warm day. Below is three
 from the set and
 if you like you can view all the photos by going here:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/sets/72157626308463710/


 BW Upper Body Casting
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/5543169001/

 Athena
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/5543155133/

 Photo Shoot
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/5543832204/

 Thanks,
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Re: Our reticent Listmeister

2011-03-25 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Doug posts frequently on facebook, so I've seen some of these. Great stuff. 
 Albano can be seen there as well.
 Paul
 On Mar 24, 2011, at 11:14 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

 This Doug Brewer guy has been posting some beautiful work recently.  I guess 
 he'd rather none of us ever looked at it.  Tough, Doug; I'm now letting the 
 entire PDML universe know where it is.

 http://dougbrewer.posterous.com/

 Rick

I have been following Doug on facebook. Great work.

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Re: Sigma APO 150-500mm F5-6.3 DG OS HSM PDQ XYZ ETC

2011-03-25 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 6:11 AM, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote:
 About the number 10/ you listed. The reason is simple. AFAIK Sigme
 does not have any TC with SDM/Powerzoom power contacts.
 Stupid, heh ?

 Thanks for the report, Stan.

I think i have an older version of this lens, with out the OS. I find
it soft at the 500 end, which is not suprising.

The Sigma telel 1.4 i have works in M,F with my Sigma 300f4, but for
some reason, i think it does not fit my 150-500. I'll have to double
check that

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Re: 645D performance in -25 °C

2011-03-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
Pentax should have you test their stuff.  -25 C is really impressive.
I tried very hard not to laugh at your nose getting stuck to the LCD.
I know it hurt, but it's the first time I've ever heard of that.

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 3:46 AM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote:
 On the last day at Svalbard I joined a snowmobile hike to the East
 coast of Spitsbergen, a 10 hour ride. I carried the 645D in a
 holsterbag (a LowePro Toploader) on my chest. The temperature in
 Longyearbyen when we started was -25 °C. I could swear it was colder
 on the glacier.

 In short, the camera performed flawlessly. Exposures turned out
 correct, the AF was snappy and accurate, processing and storing to
 memory card worked at normal speeds and without glitch. All buttons
 operated as they should.

 There were some gotchas, though, but hardly the camera's fault.
 1. The LCD on top of the camera got vry sluggish. When changing
 shutter speed with the control wheel, for example, it took about five
 seconds to switch the displayed number.
 2. All of the manual focus 645 lenses and many of the FA lenses are
 constructed in the same way as are the A-series for K-bayonet. That
 is, with a lot of metal. This means one has to be careful about
 handling the lenses with bare skin. Any amount of moisture will freeze
 on touch.
 3. The glass on rear display also gets very cold. My nose stuck to it
 twice. The skin is still sore, two days later.
 4. Battery performance goes down. Mine was fully charged in the
 morning. By lunch I had made about 100 exposures, and the indicator
 showed 67% charge. Some time in the afternoon I tried to do a series
 on passing snowmobiles. The indicator dropped to empty after five
 shots, but all images were stored correctly. I tried again with eight
 exposures twenty minutes later, and everything still got stored
 properly. The indicator would go back to 67% after a couple of
 minutes' rest in the holsterbag.

 Oh, and _don't_ breathe out with the camera before your face! :-)

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Re: Going to read-only lurking mode

2011-03-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele



Steven Desjardins wrote:


We honored the spirit of the request (no flame war) if not the letter
by expressing our concern which he can read later.

That was my feeling, too.   at least my intent when I finally said 
something...

ann



On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 


I would appreciate if this message to the list wasn't answered as my
intent is to notify and not to start a political discussion or a flame.
   


And I'm amazed at how many ignored Boris's request.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - From: Christine Aguila
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Subject: Re: Going to read-only lurking mode


   


Take care, Boris.  We're thinking of you and your family.  Cheers,
Christine from Chicago


- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 8:52 AM
Subject: Going to read-only lurking mode


 


Shalom.

The new cycle of violence has developed in my country. Rockets are
falling again in the towns just nearby ours. I don't think I will be in
position to participate actively on the list.

For any specific inquiries you can always send me a message off-list to
which I will try to reply.

I would appreciate if this message to the list wasn't answered as my
intent is to notify and not to start a political discussion or a flame.

Thanks.

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Re: GESO: young females - request for comments

2011-03-25 Thread Igor Roshchin

Fri Mar 25 06:47:09 CDT 2011
Krisjanis Linkevics wrote:

 Subject: GESO: young females - request for comments
 As I was just substituting for some fun I shot JPEGs and frankly was
 surprised to see how much I could really play with them...

with the young females? 
;-)


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Re: PESO: splash

2011-03-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele
I like this journalistic shot - in the first series  -  



 20110324-LRC01443.jpg

and browsing and comparing the last years and this years river flow...  

the spash closeup doesn't work for me - except on a this is what the 
camera can do level.  

Some ironically pretty shots in the flooded stream set  

Didn't know you were getting slammed by that stuff.. must have been in 
an earlier post ... and I don't have weather channel anymore


Did you get your power back?

ann



Paul Stenquist wrote:


Nice. The splash makes for a nice photo. Well done. The river shots are 
interesting. Are there any fish in that stream?
Paul
On Mar 25, 2011, at 4:38 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

 


We had a bit of weather today, causing the power to go out a few minutes after 
a friend showed up to help me wire up some lights and outlets in the attic.   
My computer UPS runs off a deep cycle marine battery, so we didn't have any 
problem running a few compact fluorescents for a few hours while we did the 
work.

After he left, I went for a short walk to get some shots of the neighborhood.  
I liked the way water was splashing into a storm drain, and after a couple of 
fairly standard low shutter speed shots, I tried a few with the on camera 
flash.  This one is my favorite:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5557597473/in/set-72157626345222124/

The river was running impressively full today.  These are just some snapshots:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157626220275869/

This is normal winter flow, 2-3 times the normal summer flow:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623139114983/

I'm guessing that the log in this photo is 4-5 feet in diameter and 40-50 feet 
long:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5558152676/in/set-72157626220275869/

Unfortunately I was at the wrong end of the property to get a clear shot of it 
as it went past. I tried running to the downstream end, where I had a better 
view, but still didn't get a good photo of it.

This is looking upstream from my back yard before the winter rains came a 
little over a year ago:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4129027713/in/set-72157622740257283/

This is looking downstream at my backyard from the bridge in the above photo:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5558153978/in/set-72157626220275869/

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Re: I lost it

2011-03-25 Thread Darren Addy
Having been in the same boat, I'm willing to bet that you will find it
still screwed onto the last lens you used it with. Found mine when I
took my 35mm Super Tak out of it's case on day. (I now have three, two
of which I can normally find at any one time).

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GFM

2011-03-25 Thread Scott Loveless
Anyone going this year?

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Re: GFM

2011-03-25 Thread Bill Owens
It looks unlikely this year due to continuing health problems.  Also,
I have appointments at Duke the week before and week after, and with
the price of gas where it is now it may be prohibitive.

Bill

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote:
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Re: GFM

2011-03-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/3/11, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:

Anyone going this year?

Sadly looking very unlikely unless I win the lotto tonight !!

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Re: OT - World Time Zones

2011-03-25 Thread Bruce Walker

On 11-03-25 4:58 AM, David Mann wrote:

On Mar 25, 2011, at 9:13 PM, Cotty wrote:


Some may find this interactive world time zone map quite interesting.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-12849630

Fascinating stuff.  I just wish the bloody iplayer would work so I could watch 
the videos.

Dave


Yes, very cool; thanks Cotty!

Dave, the vid player worked ok for me in both Safari and Chrome. I 
noticed it was really bandwidth hungry though, with bursts above 
400KB/s. Maybe you didn't give it enough time to start up?


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Re: GFM

2011-03-25 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Anyone going this year?

Would 100% love to go, but at this time i'm saying no. I make less
money with this bus company than i did with he previous one, and to
lose a weeks pay would hit hard.


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Re: PESO: Anne and Poppy (and double enablement)

2011-03-25 Thread Keith Whaley

P. J. Alling wrote:

Looks like a nice result, only one question.  Who would name a cat dimly.



Maybe the same guy who named his Rottweiler Jesus?

Sure hope you know that joke... :-)

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Re: 645D performance in -25 °C

2011-03-25 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pentax should have you test their stuff.  -25 C is really impressive.

 Steve Desjardins

OT but just thought i would share.

The survey company i worked for used Leica equipment for about 99.9%
of their work. Proven reliablility and the transits and total stations
worked at -35C.
In 1994, the powers that be thought they would save money and buy into
the Sokkia system of total stations. Less money, did almost the same
job, but with more steps to get to the results.(almost like a Canon
Dslr menu setup)

They had a QA with the party chiefs and the one question i asked the
sales rep was, do they work at -35C.??

Answer, They should

Result, they did not.

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Re: PESO: splash

2011-03-25 Thread Larry Colen

On Mar 25, 2011, at 4:38 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

 My, you have some crisp images in this set! What camera/lens?

They were K-5 and 16-50.  On flickr, if you look on the right side, it'll say 
taken by Pentax K-5, if you click on that, it'll show the exif data.

 Looks to be a fairly deep cut stream bed, but has it spilled over its banks 
 in recent years?

Not here.  In 1983 there was a log jam a bit over a mile south of us, and the 
river came within a couple feet of our back yard.  In 1995 it came up to about 
5 or 6 feet below.

 Felton area?

Yes.  The bridge in some of the photos is the southern of the twin bridges 
and is the border between Felton and Ben Lomond.

 
 Jack
 
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 From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
 Subject: PESO: splash
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, March 25, 2011, 1:38 AM
 We had a bit of weather today,
 causing the power to go out a few minutes after a friend
 showed up to help me wire up some lights and outlets in the
 attic.   My computer UPS runs off a deep
 cycle marine battery, so we didn't have any problem running
 a few compact fluorescents for a few hours while we did the
 work.
 
 After he left, I went for a short walk to get some shots of
 the neighborhood.  I liked the way water was splashing
 into a storm drain, and after a couple of fairly standard
 low shutter speed shots, I tried a few with the on camera
 flash.  This one is my favorite:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5557597473/in/set-72157626345222124/
 
 The river was running impressively full today.  These
 are just some snapshots:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157626220275869/
 
 This is normal winter flow, 2-3 times the normal summer
 flow:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623139114983/
 
 I'm guessing that the log in this photo is 4-5 feet in
 diameter and 40-50 feet long:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5558152676/in/set-72157626220275869/
 
 Unfortunately I was at the wrong end of the property to get
 a clear shot of it as it went past. I tried running to the
 downstream end, where I had a better view, but still didn't
 get a good photo of it.
 
 This is looking upstream from my back yard before the
 winter rains came a little over a year ago:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4129027713/in/set-72157622740257283/
 
 This is looking downstream at my backyard from the bridge
 in the above photo:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5558153978/in/set-72157626220275869/
 
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Re: PESO: splash

2011-03-25 Thread Larry Colen

On Mar 25, 2011, at 5:02 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 Nice. The splash makes for a nice photo. Well done.

Thank you.


 The river shots are interesting. Are there any fish in that stream?

Some. Not as many as in recent years, but there are some Salmon and Steelhead.

 Paul

A little birdie named facebook says that today is your Birthday.

Happy Birthday!


 On Mar 25, 2011, at 4:38 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
 
 We had a bit of weather today, causing the power to go out a few minutes 
 after a friend showed up to help me wire up some lights and outlets in the 
 attic.   My computer UPS runs off a deep cycle marine battery, so we didn't 
 have any problem running a few compact fluorescents for a few hours while we 
 did the work.
 
 After he left, I went for a short walk to get some shots of the 
 neighborhood.  I liked the way water was splashing into a storm drain, and 
 after a couple of fairly standard low shutter speed shots, I tried a few 
 with the on camera flash.  This one is my favorite:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5557597473/in/set-72157626345222124/
 
 The river was running impressively full today.  These are just some 
 snapshots:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157626220275869/
 
 This is normal winter flow, 2-3 times the normal summer flow:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623139114983/
 
 I'm guessing that the log in this photo is 4-5 feet in diameter and 40-50 
 feet long:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5558152676/in/set-72157626220275869/
 
 Unfortunately I was at the wrong end of the property to get a clear shot of 
 it as it went past. I tried running to the downstream end, where I had a 
 better view, but still didn't get a good photo of it.
 
 This is looking upstream from my back yard before the winter rains came a 
 little over a year ago:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4129027713/in/set-72157622740257283/
 
 This is looking downstream at my backyard from the bridge in the above photo:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5558153978/in/set-72157626220275869/
 
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Re: PESO: splash

2011-03-25 Thread Larry Colen

On Mar 25, 2011, at 8:31 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 I like this journalistic shot - in the first series  -  
 
 20110324-LRC01443.jpg

Thanks, though 1443 is a splash shot.

 
 and browsing and comparing the last years and this years river flow...  
 the spash closeup doesn't work for me - except on a this is what the camera 
 can do level.  
 Some ironically pretty shots in the flooded stream set  

It's a pretty neighborhood.  Even when it's a little bit damp.

 Didn't know you were getting slammed by that stuff.. must have been in an 
 earlier post ... and I don't have weather channel anymore

I hadn't mentioned it.  It's a big storm, but nothing remarkable, it just gave 
me some fun photos.

 
 Did you get your power back?

Yeah.  The power came back on a few minutes before I got home last night.


 
 ann
 
 
 
 Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
 Nice. The splash makes for a nice photo. Well done. The river shots are 
 interesting. Are there any fish in that stream?
 Paul
 On Mar 25, 2011, at 4:38 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
 
 
 We had a bit of weather today, causing the power to go out a few minutes 
 after a friend showed up to help me wire up some lights and outlets in the 
 attic.   My computer UPS runs off a deep cycle marine battery, so we didn't 
 have any problem running a few compact fluorescents for a few hours while 
 we did the work.
 
 After he left, I went for a short walk to get some shots of the 
 neighborhood.  I liked the way water was splashing into a storm drain, and 
 after a couple of fairly standard low shutter speed shots, I tried a few 
 with the on camera flash.  This one is my favorite:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5557597473/in/set-72157626345222124/
 
 The river was running impressively full today.  These are just some 
 snapshots:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157626220275869/
 
 This is normal winter flow, 2-3 times the normal summer flow:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623139114983/
 
 I'm guessing that the log in this photo is 4-5 feet in diameter and 40-50 
 feet long:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5558152676/in/set-72157626220275869/
 
 Unfortunately I was at the wrong end of the property to get a clear shot of 
 it as it went past. I tried running to the downstream end, where I had a 
 better view, but still didn't get a good photo of it.
 
 This is looking upstream from my back yard before the winter rains came a 
 little over a year ago:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4129027713/in/set-72157622740257283/
 
 This is looking downstream at my backyard from the bridge in the above 
 photo:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5558153978/in/set-72157626220275869/
 
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Re: 645D performance in -25 °C

2011-03-25 Thread drd1135
I wonder if Leica digital could do that. 
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On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pentax should have you test their stuff.  -25 C is really impressive.

 Steve Desjardins

OT but just thought i would share.

The survey company i worked for used Leica equipment for about 99.9%
of their work. Proven reliablility and the transits and total stations
worked at -35C.
In 1994, the powers that be thought they would save money and buy into
the Sokkia system of total stations. Less money, did almost the same
job, but with more steps to get to the results.(almost like a Canon
Dslr menu setup)

They had a QA with the party chiefs and the one question i asked the
sales rep was, do they work at -35C.??

Answer, They should

Result, they did not.

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Re: PESO a cup of soup

2011-03-25 Thread Larry Colen

On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:29 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 A fine, vivid image.  Makes me hungry.

Thanks,

There's a fine irony that the food that often makes me the hungriest when it's 
served, is the food I most want to photograph.


 
 Dan
 
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 When my tango class ended, power still hadn't been restored at the house, so 
 I went to a local diner for food. Something about the cup of soup struck me 
 as visually appealing:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5557577703/in/set-72157626220301507/
 
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Re: GFM

2011-03-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Scott Loveless wrote:

Anyone going this year?

It'll be the 10th anniversary of the first PDML meet-up at GFM!
Here's the crew form 2001:
http://www.robertstech.com/images/pdml2001.jpg
* people: 6 List members plus Bill Owens' wife Phyllis and Pentax rep
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PESO Floating

2011-03-25 Thread Bruce Walker

[Warning: pixels contain 1% cat by weight]

So this is where the contents of my 645D cookie-jar went to instead: a 
floor renovation. For four days starting last Thursday workmen were in 
ripping up all the old flooring (a mix of uncleanable broadloom and 
layers of worn out self-stick tiles) and plywood underlay right down to 
the subfloor, then installing floating cork flooring. This was happening 
to all the rooms on the 1st floor save for the living room, and that's 
where all our stuff was, behind painting plastic. We moved in there to 
eat and retreated upstairs all day where we cowered in fear while the 
house shook. :-)


All done now, though I still have to reattach the oak baseboard trim and 
shift the furniture back where it belongs.  Of course I documented the 
process. I won't bore you with all those shots, but I thought I'd 
present one shot in particular which pleases me no end ...


I was getting this all lined up on the tripod, couple of test shots for 
exposure done, when a curious visitor came sauntering by. I just had to 
grab that!


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2254722/FloorReno/content/_IMG3410_large.html

K20D, DA* 16-50mm @ 16mm, f/4.0, 0.5 sec, ISO 400
AF-540FGZ on camera, -2 EV, aimed left.


Feel free to browse the rest of the gallery too if you're so inclined, 
but they're quite filthy pictures. ;-)


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2254722/FloorReno/index.html

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Re: GFM

2011-03-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Same answer as Cotty
ann

Cotty wrote:


On 25/3/11, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:


Anyone going this year?
   


Sadly looking very unlikely unless I win the lotto tonight !!

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Re: PESO: splash

2011-03-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Ooops
lets try that again
(muttering about flikker)


 20110324-LRC01472.jpg

ann


Larry Colen wrote:


On Mar 25, 2011, at 8:31 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 

I like this journalistic shot - in the first series  -  


20110324-LRC01443.jpg
   



Thanks, though 1443 is a splash shot.

 

and browsing and comparing the last years and this years river flow...  
the spash closeup doesn't work for me - except on a this is what the camera can do level.  
Some ironically pretty shots in the flooded stream set  
   



It's a pretty neighborhood.  Even when it's a little bit damp.

 


Didn't know you were getting slammed by that stuff.. must have been in an 
earlier post ... and I don't have weather channel anymore
   



I hadn't mentioned it.  It's a big storm, but nothing remarkable, it just gave 
me some fun photos.

 


Did you get your power back?
   



Yeah.  The power came back on a few minutes before I got home last night.


 


ann



Paul Stenquist wrote:

   


Nice. The splash makes for a nice photo. Well done. The river shots are 
interesting. Are there any fish in that stream?
Paul
On Mar 25, 2011, at 4:38 AM, Larry Colen wrote:


 


We had a bit of weather today, causing the power to go out a few minutes after 
a friend showed up to help me wire up some lights and outlets in the attic.   
My computer UPS runs off a deep cycle marine battery, so we didn't have any 
problem running a few compact fluorescents for a few hours while we did the 
work.

After he left, I went for a short walk to get some shots of the neighborhood.  
I liked the way water was splashing into a storm drain, and after a couple of 
fairly standard low shutter speed shots, I tried a few with the on camera 
flash.  This one is my favorite:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5557597473/in/set-72157626345222124/

The river was running impressively full today.  These are just some snapshots:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157626220275869/

This is normal winter flow, 2-3 times the normal summer flow:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623139114983/

I'm guessing that the log in this photo is 4-5 feet in diameter and 40-50 feet 
long:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5558152676/in/set-72157626220275869/

Unfortunately I was at the wrong end of the property to get a clear shot of it 
as it went past. I tried running to the downstream end, where I had a better 
view, but still didn't get a good photo of it.

This is looking upstream from my back yard before the winter rains came a 
little over a year ago:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4129027713/in/set-72157622740257283/

This is looking downstream at my backyard from the bridge in the above photo:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5558153978/in/set-72157626220275869/

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Re: PESO Floating

2011-03-25 Thread Jack Davis
What can be seen looks very nice. I imagine you've already started a new 645D 
jar, huh? 
Is the kitty named, Pixel? ;)

Jack

--- On Fri, 3/25/11, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com
 Subject: PESO Floating
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, March 25, 2011, 12:02 PM
 [Warning: pixels contain 1% cat by
 weight]
 
 So this is where the contents of my 645D cookie-jar went to
 instead: a floor renovation. For four days starting last
 Thursday workmen were in ripping up all the old flooring (a
 mix of uncleanable broadloom and layers of worn out
 self-stick tiles) and plywood underlay right down to the
 subfloor, then installing floating cork flooring. This was
 happening to all the rooms on the 1st floor save for the
 living room, and that's where all our stuff was, behind
 painting plastic. We moved in there to eat and retreated
 upstairs all day where we cowered in fear while the house
 shook. :-)
 
 All done now, though I still have to reattach the oak
 baseboard trim and shift the furniture back where it
 belongs.  Of course I documented the process. I won't
 bore you with all those shots, but I thought I'd present one
 shot in particular which pleases me no end ...
 
 I was getting this all lined up on the tripod, couple of
 test shots for exposure done, when a curious visitor came
 sauntering by. I just had to grab that!
 
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2254722/FloorReno/content/_IMG3410_large.html
 
 K20D, DA* 16-50mm @ 16mm, f/4.0, 0.5 sec, ISO 400
 AF-540FGZ on camera, -2 EV, aimed left.
 
 
 Feel free to browse the rest of the gallery too if you're
 so inclined, but they're quite filthy pictures. ;-)
 
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2254722/FloorReno/index.html
 
 -bmw
 
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Re: GESO: young females - request for comments

2011-03-25 Thread Bruce Walker

On 11-03-25 7:47 AM, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote:

On Wednesday I had an opportunity to attend a studio portrait shootout that was 
a part of some photo classes - basically a bunch of students going 
trigger-happy. As I was just substituting for some fun I shot JPEGs and frankly 
was surprised to see how much I could really play with them - something I 
thought impossible without RAW. Anyway, just a few random pictures - would 
appreciate some critical comments both general and framing/postprocessing. 
Thanks.

A couple were shot with an IR-modified K10D and the others with the K-5.

http://foto.ri-ki.lv/categories.php?cat_id=5

kris


Some nice work here, Kris. You must have had some fun!

I like the close framing, and the standout shot for me is #6. The girl's 
happy, mischievous expression makes this shot really engage.


I have problems with the lighting in a couple where the lighting ratio 
seems to be reversed; the part of the subject's face in focus and facing 
us is quite dark.  And of the two IR processed shots, the first is 
interesting, but the second one kind of creeps me out. The effect is 
cool, but strikes me as inappropriate for the subject, so the shot 
doesn't work. You'd need the subject to look more goth or something. As 
it is she looks like a smiling corpse.


BTW, your link isn't loading up for me now (4PM EST), so I'm rather 
going from memory (I saw these shots this morning).


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RE: GESO: young females - request for comments

2011-03-25 Thread Krisjanis Linkevics
 A couple were shot with an IR-modified K10D and the others with the K-5.
 http://foto.ri-ki.lv/categories.php?cat_id=5

 Some nice work here, Kris. You must have had some fun!
 
 I like the close framing, and the standout shot for me is #6. The girl's
 happy, mischievous expression makes this shot really engage.

People were begging her to pull the dress lower to reveal more skin. She was 
teasing and I snapped one while the others were busy flirting.

 I have problems with the lighting in a couple where the lighting ratio
 seems to be reversed; the part of the subject's face in focus and facing
 us is quite dark.  And of the two IR processed shots, the first is
 interesting, but the second one kind of creeps me out. The effect is
 cool, but strikes me as inappropriate for the subject, so the shot
 doesn't work. You'd need the subject to look more goth or something. As
 it is she looks like a smiling corpse.

I was basically just stalking around grabbing shots, people were setting up 
lights to look right generally from a very different position. Was just too 
much hassle to push into the pack taking into account that I was not one of the 
class. Point taken.


The IR ones are IR - I could color them in by hand or just make them warmer. 
Thanks for pointing the second out, its way too easy to get carried away.

 BTW, your link isn't loading up for me now (4PM EST), so I'm rather
 going from memory (I saw these shots this morning).
 
 -bmw

Should be working now.
Thanks, your comments are much appreciated and help me look at those shots with 
a clearer head.

kris
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Re: I lost it

2011-03-25 Thread Larry Colen

On Mar 24, 2011, at 5:51 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:

 I can't find my Pentax-brand screw mount adapter.
 Looked everywhere.
 Anyone got one for sale?

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Re: PESO: splash

2011-03-25 Thread Larry Colen

On Mar 25, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 Ooops
 lets try that again
 (muttering about flikker)
 
 
 20110324-LRC01472.jpg

I find that the easiest way to view photo sets on flickr is to change the 
flickr part of the url to flickriver.  It'll show all of the photos in the 
set at a size of your choosing, and labels each of them with the name of the 
photo.


 
 ann
 
 
 Larry Colen wrote:
 
 On Mar 25, 2011, at 8:31 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
 
 
 I like this journalistic shot - in the first series  -  
 20110324-LRC01443.jpg
   
 
 Thanks, though 1443 is a splash shot.
 
 
 and browsing and comparing the last years and this years river flow...  the 
 spash closeup doesn't work for me - except on a this is what the camera 
 can do level.  Some ironically pretty shots in the flooded stream set 
 
 It's a pretty neighborhood.  Even when it's a little bit damp.
 
 
 Didn't know you were getting slammed by that stuff.. must have been in an 
 earlier post ... and I don't have weather channel anymore
   
 
 I hadn't mentioned it.  It's a big storm, but nothing remarkable, it just 
 gave me some fun photos.
 
 
 Did you get your power back?
   
 
 Yeah.  The power came back on a few minutes before I got home last night.
 
 
 
 ann
 
 
 
 Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
   
 Nice. The splash makes for a nice photo. Well done. The river shots are 
 interesting. Are there any fish in that stream?
 Paul
 On Mar 25, 2011, at 4:38 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
 
 
 
 We had a bit of weather today, causing the power to go out a few minutes 
 after a friend showed up to help me wire up some lights and outlets in 
 the attic.   My computer UPS runs off a deep cycle marine battery, so we 
 didn't have any problem running a few compact fluorescents for a few 
 hours while we did the work.
 
 After he left, I went for a short walk to get some shots of the 
 neighborhood.  I liked the way water was splashing into a storm drain, 
 and after a couple of fairly standard low shutter speed shots, I tried a 
 few with the on camera flash.  This one is my favorite:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5557597473/in/set-72157626345222124/
 
 The river was running impressively full today.  These are just some 
 snapshots:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157626220275869/
 
 This is normal winter flow, 2-3 times the normal summer flow:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623139114983/
 
 I'm guessing that the log in this photo is 4-5 feet in diameter and 40-50 
 feet long:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5558152676/in/set-72157626220275869/
 
 Unfortunately I was at the wrong end of the property to get a clear shot 
 of it as it went past. I tried running to the downstream end, where I had 
 a better view, but still didn't get a good photo of it.
 
 This is looking upstream from my back yard before the winter rains came a 
 little over a year ago:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4129027713/in/set-72157622740257283/
 
 This is looking downstream at my backyard from the bridge in the above 
 photo:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5558153978/in/set-72157626220275869/
 
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A chorus...

2011-03-25 Thread Bulent Celasun
... which you might have heard before!

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12859392size=lg

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Got da blurries

2011-03-25 Thread Tim Bray
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Re: PESO: Parthenon

2011-03-25 Thread Bulent Celasun
I was about to write a comment but I have just noticed that mine was
going to be a replica of what Ann has already said!

There you are :)

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Re: GESO: young females - request for comments

2011-03-25 Thread Larry Colen

On Mar 25, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 On 11-03-25 7:47 AM, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote:
 On Wednesday I had an opportunity to attend a studio portrait shootout that 
 was a part of some photo classes - basically a bunch of students going 
 trigger-happy. As I was just substituting for some fun I shot JPEGs and 
 frankly was surprised to see how much I could really play with them - 
 something I thought impossible without RAW. Anyway, just a few random 
 pictures - would appreciate some critical comments both general and 
 framing/postprocessing. Thanks.
 
 A couple were shot with an IR-modified K10D and the others with the K-5.
 
 http://foto.ri-ki.lv/categories.php?cat_id=5
 
 kris
 
 Some nice work here, Kris. You must have had some fun!
 
 I like the close framing, and the standout shot for me is #6. The girl's 
 happy, mischievous expression makes this shot really engage.

It's my favorite too.

 
 I have problems with the lighting in a couple where the lighting ratio seems 
 to be reversed; the part of the subject's face in focus and facing us is 
 quite dark.  And of the two IR processed shots, the first is interesting, but 
 the second one kind of creeps me out. The effect is cool, but strikes me as 
 inappropriate for the subject, so the shot doesn't work. You'd need the 
 subject to look more goth or something. As it is she looks like a smiling 
 corpse.

I think that there is definite potential in using IR for interesting portraits. 
One friend really liked what my IR camera did, because in IR, all of the 
blemishes go away.

I just realized that with working live view, I could just remove the IR filter 
from the sensor, leave the camera to work with both, and when I want IR only, 
if I put an IR filter over the lens, I'd still be able to see to frame and 
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Re: Got da blurries

2011-03-25 Thread eckinator
sure as heck don't =)

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Re: PESO - Ironwork

2011-03-25 Thread Bulent Celasun
Couldn't be better, I believe.

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RE: Kodachrome - Memories, Memories....

2011-03-25 Thread Bob W
 John Sessoms
[...]
 
  http://www.web-options.com/KC/
 
  The early ones are shot with my MX and 50/1.7 or some no-name zoom I
 had.
  The later ones were with an LX and good Pentax lenses.
 
 I really like this one:
 
 http://www.web-options.com/KC/content/Scan_110323_0005_large.html
 

Thanks. They cleaned the stonework earlier this year and in the first
sunshine since the scaffolding came down it gleams bright white, which is
presumably what Hawksmoor had in mind when he designed it, but it's quite
disconcerting.

Here's some info about the church:
http://st-alfege.org/pages/intro.php

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lightroom and K-5 questions

2011-03-25 Thread Larry Colen
The dynamic range of the K-5 is amazing, but making use of it is not trivial. 
Both yesterday and today, I got some photos of the river gorge, with some cloud 
action going on in the background. When I shot them, I bracketed, but rather 
than using photoshops HDR feature I fussed, fumbled and frobbed the controls in 
lightroom to try to keep detail in both the sky and the valley.

I'm almost satisfied with the way that this one came out:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5559355279/in/set-72157626352846496/

The challenge seems to come from there basically being a bi-modal distribution, 
where I've got a lot of pixels all of the way to the right of the histogram, 
and another bunch all of the way to the left. I almost need a tone curve that 
is very steep on the right 10% of the values, and then more or less linear to 
that point, or possibly also fairly steep on the left, flattish in the middle 
and steep on the right.

I'm sure that the way to do this involves both exposing to get the shot, and 
then some specific tricks in lightroom to pull out the data.  Any suggestions 
folks?  Or am I much better off just using photoshops HDR tools, and getting a 
wide bracket?

I did try putting the camera in bracket (about two stops), setting the meter on 
the sky in Manual, composing, taking my bracketed shots, then hitting the green 
button to bracket on the foreground, so I've got two sets of bracketed shots, 
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What a difference a day makes

2011-03-25 Thread Larry Colen
I should have done a better job of noting where I took the photos, to get 
better comparisons.  But I  paired some shots from yesterday and today showing 
the river:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157626228104881/

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Re: lightroom and K-5 questions

2011-03-25 Thread David Parsons
If you are going to do HDR, Photoshop's implementation is decent.  If
you use Photomatix, it does the same thing, but renders differently.
If you've ever seen an HDR with the crazy surface patterns, it's a
good bet that it was done in Photomatix.

It's a dark art to do it well.  Whole books have been written on how
to make HDRs.  You'll really need to have a vision of what you are
looking for, or all you'll be doing is moving sliders in software.

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 The dynamic range of the K-5 is amazing, but making use of it is not trivial. 
 Both yesterday and today, I got some photos of the river gorge, with some 
 cloud action going on in the background. When I shot them, I bracketed, but 
 rather than using photoshops HDR feature I fussed, fumbled and frobbed the 
 controls in lightroom to try to keep detail in both the sky and the valley.

 I'm almost satisfied with the way that this one came out:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5559355279/in/set-72157626352846496/

 The challenge seems to come from there basically being a bi-modal 
 distribution, where I've got a lot of pixels all of the way to the right of 
 the histogram, and another bunch all of the way to the left. I almost need a 
 tone curve that is very steep on the right 10% of the values, and then more 
 or less linear to that point, or possibly also fairly steep on the left, 
 flattish in the middle and steep on the right.

 I'm sure that the way to do this involves both exposing to get the shot, and 
 then some specific tricks in lightroom to pull out the data.  Any suggestions 
 folks?  Or am I much better off just using photoshops HDR tools, and getting 
 a wide bracket?

 I did try putting the camera in bracket (about two stops), setting the meter 
 on the sky in Manual, composing, taking my bracketed shots, then hitting the 
 green button to bracket on the foreground, so I've got two sets of bracketed 
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Re: lightroom and K-5 questions

2011-03-25 Thread Larry Colen

On Mar 25, 2011, at 5:19 PM, David Parsons wrote:

 If you are going to do HDR, Photoshop's implementation is decent.  If
 you use Photomatix, it does the same thing, but renders differently.
 If you've ever seen an HDR with the crazy surface patterns, it's a
 good bet that it was done in Photomatix.

I'm not looking for the wild tone mapping,  I'm looking for clean and natural 
looking images of pictures with wide dynamic range.

 
 It's a dark art to do it well.  Whole books have been written on how
 to make HDRs.  You'll really need to have a vision of what you are
 looking for, or all you'll be doing is moving sliders in software.
 
 

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Re: PESO: splash

2011-03-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Yes I've discovered that  - accidentally when I clicked on an image in 
Firefox... and especially good because it made

the background black.

... and did it and thought that I had copied and pasted the correct 
number to show you the one I meant...

but sometimes flickr doesn't  seem to let me do it.

thanks for reinforcing that that is what happens tho

Larry Colen wrote:


On Mar 25, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 


Ooops
lets try that again
(muttering about flikker)


20110324-LRC01472.jpg
   



I find that the easiest way to view photo sets on flickr is to change the flickr part 
of the url to flickriver.  It'll show all of the photos in the set at a size of your 
choosing, and labels each of them with the name of the photo.


 


ann


Larry Colen wrote:

   


On Mar 25, 2011, at 8:31 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:


 

I like this journalistic shot - in the first series  -  
20110324-LRC01443.jpg
 
   


Thanks, though 1443 is a splash shot.


 

and browsing and comparing the last years and this years river flow...  the spash closeup doesn't work for me - except on a this is what the camera can do level.  Some ironically pretty shots in the flooded stream set 
   


It's a pretty neighborhood.  Even when it's a little bit damp.


 


Didn't know you were getting slammed by that stuff.. must have been in an 
earlier post ... and I don't have weather channel anymore
 
   


I hadn't mentioned it.  It's a big storm, but nothing remarkable, it just gave 
me some fun photos.


 


Did you get your power back?
 
   


Yeah.  The power came back on a few minutes before I got home last night.



 


ann



Paul Stenquist wrote:

 
   


Nice. The splash makes for a nice photo. Well done. The river shots are 
interesting. Are there any fish in that stream?
Paul
On Mar 25, 2011, at 4:38 AM, Larry Colen wrote:


   
 


We had a bit of weather today, causing the power to go out a few minutes after 
a friend showed up to help me wire up some lights and outlets in the attic.   
My computer UPS runs off a deep cycle marine battery, so we didn't have any 
problem running a few compact fluorescents for a few hours while we did the 
work.

After he left, I went for a short walk to get some shots of the neighborhood.  
I liked the way water was splashing into a storm drain, and after a couple of 
fairly standard low shutter speed shots, I tried a few with the on camera 
flash.  This one is my favorite:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5557597473/in/set-72157626345222124/

The river was running impressively full today.  These are just some snapshots:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157626220275869/

This is normal winter flow, 2-3 times the normal summer flow:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623139114983/

I'm guessing that the log in this photo is 4-5 feet in diameter and 40-50 feet 
long:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5558152676/in/set-72157626220275869/

Unfortunately I was at the wrong end of the property to get a clear shot of it 
as it went past. I tried running to the downstream end, where I had a better 
view, but still didn't get a good photo of it.

This is looking upstream from my back yard before the winter rains came a 
little over a year ago:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4129027713/in/set-72157622740257283/

This is looking downstream at my backyard from the bridge in the above photo:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5558153978/in/set-72157626220275869/

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Re: About Pentax photo Gallery

2011-03-25 Thread Larry Colen

On Mar 24, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:
 
 In any case, - it looks like it has been fixed.
 (This morning, I also had written an e-mail to the PPG support directly.)
 At least when I log in, - I get to my own account.
 

What is the email address?  I've tried to sign up several times using both my 
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Re: About Pentax photo Gallery

2011-03-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
photogall...@pentax.com

request a artist's code, and then go here when you get it:

http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artist?action=

Dan

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On Mar 24, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

 In any case, - it looks like it has been fixed.
 (This morning, I also had written an e-mail to the PPG support directly.)
 At least when I log in, - I get to my own account.


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Re: What a difference a day makes

2011-03-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele

I like that first one in this series  just as a nice photo.


 20110324-LRC01394.jpg

at 640 that sure looks pretty sharp!

ann


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Re: What a difference a day makes

2011-03-25 Thread Larry Colen

On Mar 25, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 I like that first one in this series  just as a nice photo.
 
 
 20110324-LRC01394.jpg
 
 at 640 that sure looks pretty sharp!

with apologies to Boris:

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RE: A chorus...

2011-03-25 Thread Jeffery Johnson
A new song too me... 

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RE: PESO a cup of soup

2011-03-25 Thread Jeffery Johnson
Well now what was the soup? And nice capture of it... 

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When my tango class ended, power still hadn't been restored at the house, so
I went to a local diner for food. Something about the cup of soup struck me
as visually appealing:

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Re: PESO a cup of soup

2011-03-25 Thread Larry Colen

On Mar 25, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote:

 Well now what was the soup? And nice capture of it... 

It was cream of potato.  And pretty tasty, especially with the bacon.

The chicken fried steak was  a bit of a disappointment.  Even though it was 
made on the premises, and the crispiness of the breading was perfect both the 
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Re: A chorus...

2011-03-25 Thread Larry Colen

On Mar 25, 2011, at 5:38 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote:

 A new song too me... 

One that I canardly hear.

 
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Re: A chorus...

2011-03-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
Wow, Larry.  Your mind has been ruined by the PDML.


Funny photo, BTW,

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 On Mar 25, 2011, at 5:38 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote:

 A new song too me...

 One that I canardly hear.


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RE: PESO a cup of soup

2011-03-25 Thread Jeffery Johnson
At least now you know to get the soup and a nice salad instead... 

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On Mar 25, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote:

 Well now what was the soup? And nice capture of it... 

It was cream of potato.  And pretty tasty, especially with the bacon.

The chicken fried steak was  a bit of a disappointment.  Even though it was
made on the premises, and the crispiness of the breading was perfect both
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Re: A chorus...

2011-03-25 Thread Paul Sorenson

On 3/25/2011 8:08 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Mar 25, 2011, at 5:38 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote:


A new song too me...

One that I canardly hear.


They need to goose it up a little.


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Re: A chorus...

2011-03-25 Thread Larry Colen

On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:

 On 3/25/2011 8:08 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
 On Mar 25, 2011, at 5:38 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote:
 
 A new song too me...
 One that I canardly hear.
 
 They need to goose it up a little.

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Re: A chorus...

2011-03-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
No, no, I won't make the take a gander joke . . .

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 On 3/25/2011 8:08 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
 On Mar 25, 2011, at 5:38 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote:

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Re: A chorus...

2011-03-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele



Paul Sorenson wrote:


On 3/25/2011 8:08 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


On Mar 25, 2011, at 5:38 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote:


A new song too me...


One that I canardly hear.



They need to goose it up a little. 


I took a gander at that... nice shot , Bulent

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Re: A chorus...

2011-03-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele


Larry Colen wrote:


On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:

 


On 3/25/2011 8:08 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
   


On Mar 25, 2011, at 5:38 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote:

 


A new song too me...
   


One that I canardly hear.
 


They need to goose it up a little.
   



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Re: A chorus...

2011-03-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele

I already did

Steven Desjardins wrote:


No, no, I won't make the take a gander joke . . .

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 


On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:

   


On 3/25/2011 8:08 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
 


On Mar 25, 2011, at 5:38 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote:

   


A new song too me...
 


One that I canardly hear.
   


They need to goose it up a little.
 


No, I think they should bring it down if it's on the web.


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Peso: Crop of Flowers

2011-03-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
I like this, but I can't decide how or if to crop it:

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Re: A chorus...

2011-03-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
Well, at least one of us kept his dignity ;-)

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 I already did

 Steven Desjardins wrote:

 No, no, I won't make the take a gander joke . . .

 On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:


 On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:



 On 3/25/2011 8:08 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


 On Mar 25, 2011, at 5:38 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote:



 A new song too me...


 One that I canardly hear.


 They need to goose it up a little.


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Re: Peso: Crop of Flowers

2011-03-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele

sending you my sugestion off list :-)
ann

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I like this, but I can't decide how or if to crop it:

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Re: A chorus...

2011-03-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele



Steven Desjardins wrote:


Well, at least one of us kept his dignity ;-)


I didn't have any to give away to start with... ;-)
a



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I already did

Steven Desjardins wrote:

   


No, no, I won't make the take a gander joke . . .

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 


On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:


   


On 3/25/2011 8:08 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

 


On Mar 25, 2011, at 5:38 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote:


   


A new song too me...

 


One that I canardly hear.

   


They need to goose it up a little.

 


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Re: lightroom and K-5 questions

2011-03-25 Thread Tim Bray
Well, it's a nice picture; you seem to have conquered the tonal-range
issues with the tools available.  I suspect it might benefit from
punching up the greens, either with the vibrance control or maybe just
a nudge on the green slider. -T

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 Both yesterday and today, I got some photos of the river gorge, with some 
 cloud action going on in the background. When I shot them, I bracketed, but 
 rather than using photoshops HDR feature I fussed, fumbled and frobbed the 
 controls in lightroom to try to keep detail in both the sky and the valley.

 I'm almost satisfied with the way that this one came out:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5559355279/in/set-72157626352846496/

 The challenge seems to come from there basically being a bi-modal 
 distribution, where I've got a lot of pixels all of the way to the right of 
 the histogram, and another bunch all of the way to the left. I almost need a 
 tone curve that is very steep on the right 10% of the values, and then more 
 or less linear to that point, or possibly also fairly steep on the left, 
 flattish in the middle and steep on the right.

 I'm sure that the way to do this involves both exposing to get the shot, and 
 then some specific tricks in lightroom to pull out the data.  Any suggestions 
 folks?  Or am I much better off just using photoshops HDR tools, and getting 
 a wide bracket?

 I did try putting the camera in bracket (about two stops), setting the meter 
 on the sky in Manual, composing, taking my bracketed shots, then hitting the 
 green button to bracket on the foreground, so I've got two sets of bracketed 
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RE: Peso: Crop of Flowers

2011-03-25 Thread J.C. O'Connell
I'd crop off the left and bottom as much as possible

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I like this, but I can't decide how or if to crop it:

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Re: A chorus...

2011-03-25 Thread Ken Waller

Nice capture, aptly titled - I can hear them now.

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... which you might have heard before!

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RE: A chorus...

2011-03-25 Thread J.C. O'Connell
Id crop some top and right off

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Nice capture, aptly titled - I can hear them now.

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Re: GFM

2011-03-25 Thread Stan Halpin
I thought I was going to. But I've been logging a lot of miles back and forth 
between KC and Michigan. Our house in KC goes on the market next weekend, and 
after that my schedule is at the mercy of the buyer (assuming that there is at 
least one interested buyer out there.) So the combination of fatigue and 
schedule uncertainty may keep me home or otherwise occupied. If I do go I am 
going to try for a few days of pre and/or post GFM camping in National Forests 
in that region. 

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Re: A chorus...

2011-03-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
What Ken said. Nicely rendered, some sky detail remaining and good tonality 
otherwise. Nicely done.
Paul
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 Nice capture, aptly titled - I can hear them now.
 
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Re: lightroom and K-5 questions

2011-03-25 Thread Stan Halpin
Larry, I am just curious - when you metered the valley, were you metering the 
trees or the river? 
For me, the clouds and the river are the two dramatic elements, the trees are 
just there as filler/framing. I suspect that if you had a 1° spot-meter reading 
from the water, it would have given an EV even lower than you got from 
(apparently) the average of the valley. All of which is to say that your 
challenge in effectively dealing with the wide dynamic range may be even bigger 
than you presented it.

stan

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 Well, it's a nice picture; you seem to have conquered the tonal-range
 issues with the tools available.  I suspect it might benefit from
 punching up the greens, either with the vibrance control or maybe just
 a nudge on the green slider. -T
 
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 The dynamic range of the K-5 is amazing, but making use of it is not 
 trivial. Both yesterday and today, I got some photos of the river gorge, 
 with some cloud action going on in the background. When I shot them, I 
 bracketed, but rather than using photoshops HDR feature I fussed, fumbled 
 and frobbed the controls in lightroom to try to keep detail in both the sky 
 and the valley.
 
 I'm almost satisfied with the way that this one came out:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5559355279/in/set-72157626352846496/
 
 The challenge seems to come from there basically being a bi-modal 
 distribution, where I've got a lot of pixels all of the way to the right of 
 the histogram, and another bunch all of the way to the left. I almost need a 
 tone curve that is very steep on the right 10% of the values, and then more 
 or less linear to that point, or possibly also fairly steep on the left, 
 flattish in the middle and steep on the right.
 
 I'm sure that the way to do this involves both exposing to get the shot, and 
 then some specific tricks in lightroom to pull out the data.  Any 
 suggestions folks?  Or am I much better off just using photoshops HDR tools, 
 and getting a wide bracket?
 
 I did try putting the camera in bracket (about two stops), setting the meter 
 on the sky in Manual, composing, taking my bracketed shots, then hitting the 
 green button to bracket on the foreground, so I've got two sets of bracketed 
 shots, one for the sky and one for the foreground.
 
 
 
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Re: lightroom and K-5 questions

2011-03-25 Thread Larry Colen

On Mar 25, 2011, at 7:36 PM, Tim Bray wrote:

 Well, it's a nice picture; you seem to have conquered the tonal-range
 issues with the tools available.  I suspect it might benefit from
 punching up the greens, either with the vibrance control or maybe just
 a nudge on the green slider. -T

Excellent advice!  I played around with some things, and it helped a lot!

I just updated the file, but if you have it in a tab, and click on this link:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5559355279/in/set-72157626352846496/

you may be able to compare them side by side.


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Re: Crop of Flowers

2011-03-25 Thread kwaller
I'd give it a square crop centered on the bloom if it were mine, since the 
background is somewhat distracting to me.


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- Original Message - 
From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com

Subject: Peso: Crop of Flowers



I like this, but I can't decide how or if to crop it:

http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/15174580_NVzVH#1228608551_oPvGM-O-LB
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Re: GFM

2011-03-25 Thread Theodore Beilby
Not sure yet. Hope to get approval from Diane, don't know whether she is going 
to OK. 

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Re: lightroom and K-5 questions

2011-03-25 Thread Larry Colen

On Mar 25, 2011, at 7:55 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:

 Larry, I am just curious - when you metered the valley, were you metering the 
 trees or the river? 

Good question, I don't have a good answer.  Once I had my composition, I just 
hit the green button, and bracketed what it gave me.  Basically, the K-5 is 
proving to be an amazing piece of gear.  
For reference, here is the frame, as it came out of the camera:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5559723749/

I suspect that for the absolute best results, I'll still need to use multiple 
exposures and HDR tools, but I'm very impressed by what I can get out of a 
single frame on this camera.  It seems to have pretty much the performance that 
I'm going to *need* for a while.   

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Re: Peso: Crop of Flowers

2011-03-25 Thread Larry Colen

On Mar 25, 2011, at 7:41 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

 I'd crop off the left and bottom as much as possible

That's pretty much my suggestion, but the main flower in the lower left corner.
 

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Re: GFM

2011-03-25 Thread Rick Womer
Hotlinking to files at www.robertstech.com is not permitted is what I get 
instead of a pic.


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 It'll be the 10th anniversary of the first PDML meet-up at
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 Here's the crew form 2001:
 http://www.robertstech.com/images/pdml2001.jpg
 * people: 6 List members plus Bill Owens' wife Phyllis and
 Pentax rep
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Re: GFM

2011-03-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele

rick copy and paste the link  that worked for me

ann

Rick Womer wrote:


Hotlinking to files at www.robertstech.com is not permitted is what I get 
instead of a pic.


--- On Fri, 3/25/11, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 


It'll be the 10th anniversary of the first PDML meet-up at
GFM!
Here's the crew form 2001:
http://www.robertstech.com/images/pdml2001.jpg
* people: 6 List members plus Bill Owens' wife Phyllis and
Pentax rep
Don.



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